Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame
The 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees
The 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees were announced on Tuesday, October 17th. The induction ceremony will be back in New York in April. Here are the 19 nominees, the most since 1990.
- Bad Brains
- The Cars
- Chaka Khan
- Chic
- Depeche Mode
- Electric Light Orchestra
- Jane's Addiction
- Janet Jackson
- J. Geils Band
- Joan Baez
- Joe Tex
- Journey
- Kraftwerk
- MC5
- Pearl Jam
- Steppenwolf
- The Zombies
- Tupac Shakur
- Yes
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346 comments so far (post your own)... Posted by SotN on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 08:26am |
Interesting, seemingly politically correct list. Posted by fjp on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 08:29am |
19 nominees! I hope this means there'll be more than a mere 5 inductees. They could really clear up some backlog. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 08:32am |
Wow. There you have it. 19 Nominees in fact. It is a diverse list. I was correct with 5 acts. I correctly predicted Chic, the J. Geils Band, Janet Jackson, Pearl Jam and the Zombies. So I got 5 right. Journey is on the Ballot. Pleasantly surprised. Look at that 2 Prog acts at the Same time Electric Light Orchestra and Yes! Steppenwolf and the Zombies are on the Ballot. I told ya. The 1960's are not dead. 2 60s acts. You know who isn't here again? The Moody Blues!! No Moody Blues! Very disappointed in that. Ok. ELO are on a ballot first. I did say their hits may be a factor to get them on. I really thought it would be Moody Blues first. Those are some early thoughts. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 08:45am |
Well, the nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2017 have been announced. My congratulations to all who have received this nomination. I should point out that in my initial nominee predictions, I eventually was correct on 7 of the 19 nominees. Admittedly, this is going to be a rather difficult ballot to determine; I had a bit of trouble limiting my choices down to 5 myself. Here though is what I think will occur by December. Posted by Lax33 on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 09:20am |
BAD BRAINS?!?!?!?! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 10:02am |
II is definitely an interesting list. I am very disappointed to not see either Duran Duran, or The Moody Blues, or Sade there. However, there are two prog acts: Yes and Electric Light Orchestra and 1 "prog adjacent" act: Journey. Yes and E.L.O. have been on my list for nearly 4 years. Who would I like to see inducted from this list: Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 10:21am |
Well, I will now have to look forward to 2018. Let's hope that the following artists will finally receive a nomination next year: Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 10:33am |
So, who did I actually vote for? Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 10:45am |
.....at the pronounced risk of repeating myself, that Janet might actually be inducted BEFORE Chaka, makes me want to RETCH; Yvette Marie makes her look absolutely LAUGHABLE as an artist and, ESPECIALLY, 'singer'.....I would venture to say that 80 percent of the public couldn't name more than 3-5 JJ 'songs' on demand.....anyhow, a FEW gratifying noms, such as Chaka, ELO, Journey (!) Bad Brains (couldn't vote for them with just 5 choices at my disposal; Yes and The Zombies were my others) - as ALWAYS, irritated that The Monks weren't, and Depeche over BOTH Roxy and Duran (AGAIN.....) Posted by ogam5 on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 11:07am |
ARE THEY STILL ONLY INDUCTING 5? HAS IT BEEN STATED ANYWHERE? Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 11:57am |
Huh. Obviously a very interesting group. Given the inevitable Pearl Jam induction, I hope we really aren't just dealing with four slots for the remaining 18. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 12:16pm |
I just want to say a lot of these choices are very Fine. I have some corrections to make. I got 6 right. I predicted Chic, J. Geils Band, Janet Jackson, Pearl Jam The Zombies and Tupac Shakur. I forgot I predicted 2Pac. Even with all my Rock I know how key he is for Rap. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 12:29pm |
What a fantastic list of nominees. I really don't think it could get any better than this. Posted by jtrichey on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 12:31pm |
In Order of Importance: Kraftwerk. MC5. Depeche Mode. Pearl Jam. 2Pac. Chic. The Zombies. The Cars. Jane's Addiction. Janet Jackson. Journey. Bad Brains. Electric Light Orchestra (ugh). Yes (double ugh). Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 12:45pm |
Lock (1): Pearl Jam. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 12:49pm |
Here is my prediction for the class of 2017 Posted by Kyle on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 13:08pm |
Just the fact that they don't know for sure how many inductees there will be in a given year is fishy. What are the criteria for the vote then? If it's not top 5, then what is it? Who decides? Based on what? Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 13:33pm |
J. Geils and Steppenwolf look really miniscule in the rest of that company, but a very solid ballot otherwise. A wreath of fan favorites and pet causes across the spectrum. Journey is sort of this year's Chicago, not a terribly important band, but one whose popularity and cultural pervasiveness makes for a shoo in (and I don't have a problem with that on either act). Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 13:48pm |
I didn't make any predictions, and gladly so, because I never would have thought that they would nominate 19 artists. A big improvement over the 9 or so nominees that we had to deal with a couple of years ago. Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 13:50pm |
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame deliberately picks R&B acts that they KNOW will have NO chance at all to get inducted...while flooding the ballot with superstar White Rock acts that they KNOW that the voters will put in. Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 14:38pm |
i just voted the following: Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 14:40pm |
"My fan vote: Pearl Jam, Kraftwerk, 2Pac, Depeche Mode, Chic." The_Claw Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 14:46pm |
If the induction criteria they had for years follows--an act is voted on 50% of the ballots--then there may be fewer than five inductions, since there are more to choose. Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 14:48pm |
"Interesting, seemingly politically correct list." Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 15:03pm |
My picks are 2Pac, Pearl Jam, ELO, Chic and Janet. Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 15:44pm |
"PC" has just become the new catch-all phrase for things right-wingers hate. Posted by dmg on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 15:45pm |
My fan vote: ELO, Kraftwerk, Pearl Jam, Tupac, Yes Posted by Evan on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 15:45pm |
My early thoughts on this ballot: Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 17:42pm |
Andddd one more thing I would like to add: Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 18:13pm |
I goofed. Five of the nominees are from the 60s, not 3 as I stated above (Joan Baez, Steppenwolf, Mc5, Joe Tex, The Zombies), and by that I mean had at least one hit in the 60s Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 18:33pm |
Hm... an interesting lot. Definitely some oversights. Allow me to separate the wheat from the chaff: Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 18:44pm |
I'd love to see the inductees be the following so that the RNRHOF and HBO can have a heart attack over the telecast that they would have to put on: Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:18pm |
I do like that the bios on the Rockhall website list the members that will be inducted. Happy to see Gregg Rollie listed with Journey and Trevor Rabin with Yes. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:27pm |
I think a lot of this ballot was not wanting to induct somebody else until an influence was previously inducted. Posted by Sean on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:33pm |
Congrats to the 19 Nominees. The RRHOF still is one of the highest honors a music artist can achieve. I think the list is diverse but similar to the Lou Reed and Joan Jett ballot. In some respects, it can be viewed as underwhelming. NO MOODY BLUES, NO DURAN DURAN, NO DEF LEPPARD, NO JUDAS PRIEST, NO THE CURE, NO STEVIE NICKS, NO BAD COMPANY etc. Posted by KING on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:48pm |
Anyone but Tupac Shakur. Do we really need another rap artist/act in the HOF, when there are older and more popular acts to choose from like ELO, The Zombies and Yes. Chic is on their 11th nomination, it's about time they finally get recognized. And where is The Moody Blues and Jethro Tull?????? Posted by Danny on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:50pm |
Stevie Nicks would be far and away less deserving than anyone on this ballot, although any of the others could fit right in. I don't know why they never nominated The Cure again, although it seems they keep rotating early British alternative acts rather than building a push for one like they're doing for Chic. If The Cure and The Smiths couldn't get in, Depeche Mode probably won't either. Moody Blues is puzzling...I kind of thought they would be the next prog selection over ELO. I like Journey more than Def Leppard, but Leppard is probably more deserving (2 acclaimed albums: Pyromania/Hysteria, to 1, Escape, and more influence at the time, although Journey is more fondly remembered now.) Duran Duran probably has to wait for one or several of the more artistic British bands like Cure/Depeche Mode/Smiths to get in. Judas Priest was too edgy for them considering how many times it took them to induct Black Sabbath. Bad Company would have been as qualified as Journey and I'm surprised they picked Journey first, since Paul Rodgers seems more like the kind of singer they'd value more than Steve Perry. Yes, Journey is hipper than most of the arena rock bands lately, but still... Posted by Sean on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 19:56pm |
Or Roxy Music. They're probably the Duran Duran holdup actually. They might get straight in too, not even because of the Brian Eno connection or their massive influence, but because they have a single song played on US classic rock stations... Rolling eyes... Posted by Sean on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 20:03pm |
If you take away the obvious first ballot artists Pearl Jam and Tupac, you could easily make a just as plausible looking ballot and totally swap out the rest of the nominees. This would look like a just as legit a ballot: Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 20:11pm |
Predictions for this class: Posted by Ian on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 22:06pm |
Lots of great acts here. Let's hope its not reduced to five inductees. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 22:55pm |
The ELO fans did an excellent job of providing reasons for ELO's induction and Jeff Lynne's importance to the musicverse. Kudos to Rick Vendl II in his relentless support for ELO. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 23:04pm |
And I'm trying to track town Rick to make sure he didn't end up in a cardiac unit somewhere when he saw ELO on the ballot, Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 10/18/2016 @ 23:06pm |
Hard to pick 5, but here it goes: Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 03:01am |
ENIG Posted by KING on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 03:33am |
Wow. Not what I was expecting at all. What I'd do: Kraftwerk (sorry DM), Chic, Pearl Jam, Yes, MC5... and if it's a 6th induction I'll throw in Tupac, and The Cars (sorry JA) if 7. Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 05:42am |
No Mary Wells, no Marvelettes, no Spinners, no Chubby Checker, no Dionne Warwick, no Willie Nelson, no Carole King, no Tina Turner, no Monkees, no Jan and Dean, no Moody Blues, no Jethro Tull, no King Crimson, no Commodores, no Kool and the Gang! Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 05:50am |
Interesting list. Having read the comments, it's nice to know I'm not alone in the "surprise, surprise" category, via Bad Brains, etc. Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 06:37am |
THEY WON'T GET ENOUGH VOTES TO BE INDUCTED IN 2017 Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 07:00am |
Janet Jackson aka THE Empress of Pop is a no-brainer! In fact, she should have been inducted her very first year of eligibility. But better late than never, right? Posted by Christopher Broughton on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 07:07am |
.....'Empress Of Pop' - THERE's a double-edged PROP sword for ya.....along with Maddie and an absolute SLEW of Ross WANNABES in the 80's (best of whom was Shannon) permanently TRIVIALIZED the female R & B genre forever, and cursed us with SUBSEQUENT crap such as Britney, 'Misdameanor' (MORE like Capital Offense') Beyonce (Destiny's Child, was just ATROCIOUSLY bad, the absolute WORST of Mariah's vocal gymnastic EXCESSES) and now, Minaj.....conversely, Chaka begat Joss Stone and, ESPECIALLY, Nikka Costa - who'd kick JJ's assets STRAIGHT to the curb in SHORT order were this a perfect world; in the battle of Sly-influenced revivals, "Everybody's Got Their Something", puts ANYthing on Rhythm Nation to SHAME.....NOTHING Jacko's (as opposed to pre-Thrilla, less nakedly narcissistic 'Michael') partner-in-crime produced, is R & R HOF-worthy..... Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 08:13am |
Here's my predictions from most to least likely of being inducted Posted by Nicky Joe on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 08:44am |
It's a fine ballot this Year. I concede that the Moody Blues were snubbed yet again. Acts like Todd Rundgren and Tina Turner were shots in the dark that were wrong too. I did Not realize that ELO had such a buzz for the Hall. I apologize Rick. I know the things I said about the Moody Blues. They are out of the picture. I remember Electric Light Orchestra being very popular in the 70s. Rick Vendi II has great support for ELO. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 09:22am |
.....hope the HELL you're PROFOUNDLY wrong, Nicky Joe - because, PJ aside, that would be a profoundly DEPRESSING lot of inductees - for anyone who appreciates actual MUSIC (to clarify, yes, Nile Rodgers DID have a significant influence on subsequent disco / dance acts - but if you REALLY want to recognize someone, Gregg Diamond - I know, I KNOW - who? - Steve Alaimo, Stone, Lynch and / or Moroder would be FAR more worthy of it; do NOT understand the utter fixation with Kraftwerk - no WAY should they have been nominated before Roxy OR, for THAT matter, Sparks; SAME goes for DM over DD, while 2Pac ISN'T rock NOR 'music' (HOWEVER articulate he might've been as rappers - i.e., PERFORMANCE artists - go.....) Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 09:24am |
Who I would probably vote for: Posted by dmg on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 09:52am |
Have many thoughts about the 2017 ballot and it's about as diverse as anyone could've honestly expected. I'll post more tomorrow since I'm super busy this week. Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 10:54am |
my ideal six would be: Posted by mitchell on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 11:51am |
My 5 choices for 2017: Posted by Danny on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 12:50pm |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 13:04pm |
My picks would be: Posted by MichaelEU on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 13:21pm |
Pearl Jam and Tupac are locks to get in. Posted by jay on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 15:42pm |
Joel Peresman said on the Sirius/XM hall announcement a couple times that this ballot will go out to 900-1000 people. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 15:42pm |
Classic Rock, I certainly hope that is the case. I have long seen inductees as voters as a pretty big flaw in the system. Not to insult any inductees, but what does Jerry Lee Lewis really know about the impact of Kraftwerk? Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 16:03pm |
Time for some thoughts. Overall, great eclectic ballot that addresses some holes. Lots of strong contenders. Surprised there was no metal nominee after all of the talk about Judas Priest, and also continue to be frustrated about Roxy Music and King Crimson never getting nominated, but we all have different axes to grind. Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 16:19pm |
I'm thinking that they'll induct more than 5 acts this year, so I'll go with: Posted by Christian on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 16:26pm |
http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/how-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-can-finally-leave-the-60s-behind/ Posted by Danny on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 17:46pm |
While some deserving artists have been left behind, I wish that the RNRHOF had similar rules to the baseball HOF where a player drops off the ballot after 15 years (recently changed to 10 years) of being eligible. Any band that started in 1969 or before has been eligible for at least 22 years now, if they aren't in yet, sorry, it's time to move on. Instead we debate the same 20 holdovers year after year. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 17:59pm |
Why did they nominate Bad Brains over The Dead Kennedys in the hardcore/punk category when The DKs were eligible three years before Bad Brains? The DKs had far more influence than Bad Brains. Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 18:36pm |
Great comments and thoughts from everyone so far. I do agree that the list is underwhelming. The way I see it mostly is, again, all 19 of the acts deserve to get in one way or another. There are some bands that we wondered for a long time why they're not in, and some that haven't really crossed our mind. That's what I like to think, anyway. Its a diverse ballot, that seems to have every genre and rock/R&B subgenre represented on it. However, like I stated above in the comments: no Jazz (Nina Simone), no Country (Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson), no Reggae (Johnny Nash, Peter Tosh), and any other random genre that the Hall has included in the past. But oh well. Besides the Pearl Jam lock, I hope this will be a Heinz 57-like year for those who have waited and deserved it for the longest time. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 19:22pm |
SCENARIO # 8 : NO JANET JACKSON Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 19:51pm |
"Why did they nominate Bad Brains over The Dead Kennedys in the hardcore/punk category when The DKs were eligible three years before Bad Brains? The DKs had far more influence than Bad Brains." Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 20:19pm |
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 20:23pm |
Kool & the Gang and the Commodores are the two biggest names in 70s-80s R&B who are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yet, and they have never been nominated. Why isn't Questlove pushing for them? Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 20:42pm |
Who do you guys think might give the speeches for each candidate? I'm not super familiar with who everyone on the list has influenced or collaborated with, but here's a couple of ideas for some of them. Posted by Max on Wednesday, 10/19/2016 @ 21:48pm |
@Roy, what makes you think he isn't? I imagine he's pushing hard for Chic to get in. Maybe after Chic, Kool & the Gang and the Commodores might have chances... Posted by Tim on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 02:41am |
Now the thing is I think Yes have a chance for sure. The fact is though they lost out twice so I am choosing ELO instead. More voters would go for Jeff Lynne, Bev Bevan and the rest of ELO. I don't think there will be 2 prog acts in one class. We are priveleged enough to have 2 prog acts on the Ballot for those like me and Enig who like some of that stuff. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 09:17am |
2017 Nominees ranked in the order of my favorites (from least to most favorite, I also list their ranking on my 200 Favorite Artists list, if they're on there). Posted by Donnie on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 09:46am |
Here's my ranking from least favorite to favorite. Note this isn't a list of who I think deserves it more - just who I like: Posted by dmg on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 10:04am |
Phillip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 10:24am |
My order of preference from least favorite to most favorite: Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 11:09am |
KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 11:27am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 11:34am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 13:01pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 17:43pm |
http://songhall.org/news/entry/songwriters_hall_of_fame_2017_nominees_for_induction_announced Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 20:11pm |
RRHOF talks about Innovation and Influence and the importance of Musical Excellence in selecting musical artists. Then why hasn't Roxy Music been nominated. The number of successful artists who have cited Roxy Music as an influence is amazing. Morrissey, Duran Duran, U2, etc. Bryan Ferry & ENO have continued to be leaders in the music industry. Avalon a classic album. Posted by KING on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 21:15pm |
KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 01:18am |
Since other people are posting, might as well do a run-down list. I'll revive the post I did last year: in the event one of the bands on the ballot gets an induction this year, who would be the biggest beneficiary of that act next year? My very likely inaccurate opinion is: Posted by SotN on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 03:15am |
SotN, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 11:07am |
SotN, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 11:11am |
Any leaked voter ballots yet? Posted by dmg on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 13:57pm |
You know what I was thinking about my predictions for the 2017 Class. I predicted 2 60s acts. I realize that probably that isn't so likely in 2016. So I am adjusting my predictions. Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 13:58pm |
Future Rock Legends Regulars. Posted by KING on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 21:30pm |
Its unusual for me to do this early but I feel I already have an idea who will be selected from the ballot. But I know that will change a month from now, so I think I'll just leave it at that. Part of me says Tupac will, part of me thinks he won't. It seems there's a pattern when they induct rap/hip-hop acts (like every other year or so). Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 21:50pm |
I love both Duran Duran and R.E.M., and yes, I think Duran Duran should have been in a long time ago. But to me, they are a bit different from each other. This will probably piss off many, but I'm just gonna say it: without MTV, Duran Duran probably would not have gotten much success. Maybe not R.E.M. either. We all know they helped define college rock. Plus they are from different sides of the Atlantic. I will give Duran Duran credit for helping lead the 'Second British Invasion'. Duran Duran members appeared in teen magazines; I don't think R.E.M. ever did. Duran Duran has had several notable lineup changes; R.E.M. didn't have that many. (Plus, not to be a bit biased but Michael Stipe graduated from the high school in my neighboring town - Collinsville, IL. I wish I can post his famous yearbook picture on here...) Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 22:02pm |
Odd comparison between Duran Duran and R.E.M. Other than the fact that they were both big in the 80's, there's really nothing else in common between them. Duran Duran were part of the new wave second British Invasion and were pop stars, whereas R.E.M. were among the founding bands of American alternative rock. Pretty big difference and odd to compare them. Posted by Donnie on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 22:20pm |
I'll go ahead and make my predictions now, even though it's probably too soon. Posted by Donnie on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 22:24pm |
Jason: Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 22:39pm |
ESSENTIAL Duran Songs You May NOT Have Ever Heard: Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 23:35pm |
Ben, Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 10/21/2016 @ 23:58pm |
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2017.html Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 00:31am |
If Joan Baez was to get inducted I think they would induct her as an Early Influence rather than as a Performer Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 01:01am |
RE: Sampson And The Digital Dream Door's LAUGHABLE critique: yet ANOTHER exhortation to nominate a LOT of complete and utter CRAP that's absolutely NOT 'rock'..... Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 02:11am |
They are not going to induct Joan Baez as an early influence. She's in Dylan's class. She has a lot of friends and supporters among the inductees. Everybody will vote for her. Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Elton John, Billy Joel, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Linda Ronstadt, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, Chicago, the Band, Crosby, Stills, Nash, Neil Young, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys and on and on and on. Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 03:34am |
Leonard Cohen will vote for Joan Baez. Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 03:38am |
FRL Regulars. Round 2-Duran Duran vs. King Of Pop Michael Jackson. Let's see if someone not in RRHOF Duran Duran can hang song for song with the late Michael Jackson RRHOF. Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 04:26am |
ROY Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 06:06am |
.....one thing about DD that almost NEVER gets mentioned and, in my view, makes them worthy of consideration as nominees: they wrote songs which could CONSISTENTLY evoke more PATHOS, than FEW other groups in history, and for sure among MOST of their immediate peers, contemporaries (with the noteworthy exceptions of Simple Minds and Nik Kershaw, Tears For Fears - check out "Size Of Sorrow" and "Who Killed Tangerine" from THEIR last album, Everybody Loves A Happy Ending, if you're not already familiar with them).....post-J5, MJ rarely ever did again; "Human Nature" &, to a decidedly lesser extent, "Man In The Mirror" were pretty much IT and, in comparison, without Temperton or The Corporation to cover up his artistic shortcomings, Jacko PALES next to the Fab Five in that aspect.....finally, if you want to know why latter-day Michael does next to NOTHING for me, check out the J5's cover of "Don't Know Why I Love You" - he didn't EVER equal such affecting heights after that (although "I'll Be There" and "Ben", a handful of their lesser-known numbers, come VERY close..... Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 08:20am |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 09:12am |
Ben, Posted by Nick on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 10:15am |
Bad Brains is a good left-field choice from an underrepresented area of Rock Hall nominees – punk rock. With their multifaceted musical styles and genres (e.g.., Hardcore Punk and Reggae), Bad Brains is a great non-mainstream artist for Rock Hall consideration. If it’s true Dave Gruhl is now on the committee, a Bad Brains nomination that would make total sense. If anyone saw the Dave Grohl documentary series Sonic Highways on HBO, a show which focused on a major U.S. city and the music that defines their musical heritages and traditions. The Foo Fighters were creating a new album with each song inspired by one of the episode’s cities and their musical styles/traits/etc. If you remember the episode on Washington D.C., he spend quite of that episode focusing on the importance of hardcore punk-rock and in particular the influence of Bad Brains. Granted, I know ‘Banned in D.C.’ album but little else beyond that. Grohl’s series opened my interest in punk rock beyond the usual suspects (e.g., Clash, Ramones, Sex Pistols) and to lesser-known bands such as Minor Threat, Fugazi and of course Bad Brains. Bad Brains even joined Grohl onstage at that big Foo Fighters concert tat Citi Field last summer. So in a way, it makes sense Grohl’s alleged influence on the committee played out this way and lead to a Bad Brains nomination. He could be a new major force on the Committee like Tom Morello (who now we know advocated for MC5 and probably Bad Brains as well; maybe Stepphenwolf for their hard rock influence but who knows) and Questlove (who went to bat for Chaka Khan). If Grohl is now a member of the nominating committee, it’s a welcomed sign of young blood on the committee and maybe the shot in the arm that’s needed. Posted by Nick on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 10:27am |
Thanks for clearing that, Ben and Nick. Posted by Jason Voigt on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 11:09am |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 12:54pm |
.....how crazy / cool would it be for Joan Baez to team up with Priest on a joint version of "Diamonds And Rust" if they get nominated simultaneously in future years, Jason? Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 21:31pm |
Going along with some other post about who the nominees could lead to next. Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 22:29pm |
Forgot 2Pac Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 22:30pm |
KING: Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 23:21pm |
So since there is so many Nominees on this ballot there should be more than 5 Inductees. There is in fact 19 nominees in total. I think there will be 6 inductees for 2017. There may even be 7. Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10/23/2016 @ 15:27pm |
Sounds like Bad Brains was influenced by MC5. They are both noise to me. Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 03:16am |
MY 2017 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME BALLOT - I WISH I HAD PAID THE $1000.00 LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP FEE SO I COULD VOTE FOR CHICAGO Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 06:39am |
Donnie, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 10:43am |
I am mentioning Rush once again, because they figure prominently into this list of nominees and 3 out of my big 5 artists have been huge influences upon Rush. Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 11:31am |
The more I think about it, the more I approve of not allowing votes to be visible on the Rock Hall website. Posted by dmg on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 13:23pm |
Can we expect at least 6 Inductees this Time? Is there a way to find out? I guess maybe not. You would think with 19 Nominees it will Not just be 5 this year. Posted by Ben on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 14:02pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 20:14pm |
Bad Brains = Black Flag Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 21:11pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/25/2016 @ 08:24am |
Enigmaticus: Posted by ogam5 on Tuesday, 10/25/2016 @ 08:31am |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/25/2016 @ 10:19am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/25/2016 @ 11:37am |
Joan Baez is the only lock for 2017. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 05:13am |
I've narrowed my predictions down to five scenarios. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 06:42am |
.....a point that needs to be made, question asked: is Sade more worthy of nomination than Seal? In my estimation, NO - not because her music wasn't extremely well-crafted but, Seal's (who by the way, was heavily influenced by both Elton John, Hendrix, Joni Mitchell & David Bowie, as well as a SLEW of classic R & B vocalists) transcends genres more extensively, is a LOT more diverse in styles.....as with DD, some essential, lesser-known Sealhenry numbers: Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 08:18am |
Roy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 08:39am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 10:22am |
.....since you bring up Lifeson being stylistically influenced by Howe, I'd say Rik Emmett, was even MORE so - and the Move (a HUGE favorite of mine now!) - Rush connection is provocative; gonna have to give that one some further consideration..... Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 12:25pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 12:33pm |
Now that the fan ballot results are showing (but not updating via live results), the biggest news for me at least is that Stepphenwolf is doing surprisingly well on the fan ballot: #6 of the 19 nominees. They are right outside the top 5 and ahead of the likes of Depeche Mode, Janet Jackson, and Jane's Addiction. An impending induction for them doesn't now seem so out of the question or unreasonable. Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 13:22pm |
^Stepphenwolf's "nomination" and NOT induction, at least yet. I reread it and thought that didn't sound right. I wanted to amend that comment right now. Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 10/26/2016 @ 13:28pm |
FRL, Posted by Nick on Thursday, 10/27/2016 @ 01:01am |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/27/2016 @ 09:00am |
Thanks Ben, it's much appreciated on my part and also enjoy reading your comments on these forums. I think Stepphenwolf could be a dark house choice for the 2017 ceremony. I tried to historize Stepphenwolf's place in rock history as a way of expressing the countercultural spirit of the late 1960s. I don't think any other song defines that era than "Born to Be Wild." It's absurd for that writer to write off them as a 2-hit wonder especially when they pretty influential. It seems kinda weird that Stepphenwolf isn't doing well on FRL's fan poll yet their doing so well in the actual Rock Hall fan ballot. Posted by Nick on Thursday, 10/27/2016 @ 22:03pm |
Also to answer your question Ben, I'm in the my late 20s but really feel a deep connection to past musical generations, especially from the 50s to the 70s. I really wish I grew up in one of those decades because there was so much incredible music from all forms of styles/trends/movements. My favorite genres are classic rock, R&B/Soul, and Blues (which I grew to appreciate more as I get older). Posted by Nick on Thursday, 10/27/2016 @ 22:08pm |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/28/2016 @ 10:03am |
.....official site's standings finally resolved for me - and, classic rock is in an impressive lead, as follows (Danny, ALL of your preferences are in the Top 6!) Posted by ogam5 on Sunday, 10/30/2016 @ 09:54am |
From the list of 19 nominees, I think that there might be a chance that we'll have 8 inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/30/2016 @ 14:38pm |
The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10/30/2016 @ 19:16pm |
http://theyoungfolks.com/music/the-young-folks-discusses-the-2017-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees/90251 Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10/30/2016 @ 19:21pm |
From this list of 19 nominees, my favorite artists are: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/30/2016 @ 21:21pm |
.....and, some lesser-known, HIGHLY-recommended JOURNEY songs you may not have heard - there is a frequently-overlooked, INCREDIBLE soulfulness to their approach in MOST instances: Posted by ogam5 on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 06:23am |
Your transparency is comical and you can continue to knock Janet Jackson all you'd like. Her partnership with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis was just that, a very collaborative partnership. On some tracks, Janet may have added minor elements to the songwriting. On most tracks, she contributed greatly and even penned the bulk of the lyrics. On some tracks, she wrote the entire thing. Posted by Marissa on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 08:46am |
Nick, your picks seem real close to reality. I think if it's six, Joan Baez could be the sixth nominee, if seven, Chic. Posted by Tim on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 09:44am |
Thanks Tim for the compliment; I always try to take a step back and see how realistically the chances of these nominees weight against each other. Of my 5 predictions, I'm not really the biggest Journey fan but their strong showing on the fan ballot will allow them a better chance. I would rather see any of the classic rock nominees this year, especially either Yes or The Cars, inducted but the populist demand for Journey might be too much to overlook this year. It's entirely possible the larger voting body rejects Journey despite if they come in first on this year's fan ballot. For some voters, it might mean the prospect of a Steve Perry reunion with his old band which could become a big deal for this year's ceremony. Let's just hope it's not like the failed Peter Cetera-Chicago reunion from earlier this year. But I feel slightly more confident than Journey-Steve Perry will put any hurt feelings aside for one night. Posted by Nick on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 10:41am |
.....I really DON'T have a lot of patience for arguments about quotas or appearances - if there ARE female African-American (or OTHERWISE) recording artists WORTHY of consideration (not NECESSARILY induction) then absolutely and, already expressed my belief that Chaka is far, FAR more so than JJ, who's much more a successful ENTERTAINER than she EVER was an artist (sorry, Melissa - she's the sheer PORTRAIT of mediocrity - aside from Rhythm Nation; The Velvet Rope is as self-indulgent and musically uninteresting, as Control - just a BIT more listenable than THAT resolutely atonal exercise, though - which is FAINT praise indeed). Again, I'd take a Sandra St. Victor, Joyce Kennedy or Nikka Costa over her OR Mariah ANY day of the week.....hell, who's NEXT - Jennifer Lopez (whose career has arguably been more successful by the measure of Janet's)? She has ABOUT as much to do with 'rock and roll' as Kenny G. or YANNI..... Posted by ogam5 on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 14:51pm |
.....of course, it's TINA who should REALLY be going in next, and NO one else (though for heritage choices if they HAVEN'T been already: Lorraine Ellison, Mary Wells, Betty Everett, Bettye Swann.....) Posted by ogam5 on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 14:55pm |
The thing I love about the Rock Hall nominees every year is discovering an artist I was previously unfamiliar with. I make a point to own music from every Performer inductee, whether it's their entire catalog or a couple songs. Every year when the nominees are announced, I look at the artists whose music I do not have, and I will at the very least make a compilation. I can generally find 10-15 songs that I enjoy. It's the only way I can make an informed opinion about who deserves induction. And I must say this year is STACKED! I have discovered some great music. The way I look at it, I would rather enjoy all the great music that is represented in the Hall than complain about who is not in there yet. I love coming here and reading all the discussions. I am definitely looking forward to this year's ceremony. I am hoping to make a trip to New York in April to attend it! Posted by Greg P. on Monday, 10/31/2016 @ 16:20pm |
Why have Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, Bad Brains and MC5 moved into the Top 10 in voting? Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 06:44am |
Kraftwerk is in second place now. What's going on? Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 06:47am |
For me ultimately, a true Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame artist, is one who is going to take the stage and play a musical instrument. I do not understand someone who takes the stage, lip synchs and dances. If I had really wanted to watch someone dance, I would prefer to watch a ballet, or perhaps a modern dance troupe, instead. Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 10:42am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 12:48pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 13:07pm |
Just a little something off-topic - Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 16:39pm |
.....FUNNY you should mention that, Jason - actually have the wood and brass plaque awarded Styx at the Superjam in '78, landed in an eBay auction! My collection of Stygian memorabilia, was once VERY large..... Posted by ogam5 on Tuesday, 11/1/2016 @ 18:31pm |
I'm glad that Dave Abbruzzese is getting a lot of attention for his Pearl Jam snub, because its preposterous. Posted by Steve Z on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 10:35am |
"For me ultimately, a true Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame artist, is one who is going to take the stage and play a musical instrument. I do not understand someone who takes the stage, lip synchs and dances. If I had really wanted to watch someone dance, I would prefer to watch a ballet, or perhaps a modern dance troupe, instead. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 11:32am |
.....must thoroughly disagree with you, Philip; aside POSSIBLY from the MUCH-referenced "Black Cat" ('ooooh, it has an edgy guitar solo - WHOA! Janet's ROCKIN' now') JJ's career roots are much more in jazz - the freeform, not-especially-compelling variety and, just to draw a comparison, even if a FEW of BRITNEY's songs can be transcribed to a rockier arrangement (specifically, Fountains Of Wayne's "Baby Hit Me One More Time" and Marillion's "Toxic" covers) DOESN'T make HER a rock artist in the SLIGHTEST..... Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 13:53pm |
ogam... freeform jazz? Really. Not buying that one, considering how structured her songs are. Also, if you're seriously gonna try to tell me that guitars are what define rock'n'roll, I'm gonna have to punch you in the throat. Not literally, because I wouldn't know you from Adam, but I may have to vow to if we ever meet. That's a bullshit line of thinking and it's the second biggest problem with the populist push in the Rock Hall. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 16:54pm |
.....and now, you're making MY point FOR me, Philip - including a guitar solo, DOESN'T make an artist 'rock', and the freeform jazz element has more to do with the sound, NOT the structuring (which is frequently utilitarian, like MOST 'dance music' - as opposed to music that is ALSO danceable - see the artist and act the VAST majority of divas subsequently copped to mostly unremarkable effect, Diana Ross and the Supremes for those, courtesy of Smokey, Holland, Dozier and Holland, Steveland.....). As somebody with a BROAD collection of soul, R& B, funk and disco songs, can say that not ONE of Janet's, is especially memorable; rely upon merely being different, audacious..... Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 18:58pm |
Janet's definitely worthy. Even if you don't 'like' her music. Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 20:01pm |
Uh, I never said that having a guitar solo makes it a rock song. Just that your previous post came off as rockist. Thanks for the clarification. But I still disagree about her songs sounding like freeform jazz. And I'm not sure how you're defining "memorable", but "What Have You Done For Me Lately," "Nasty," "Black Cat," and "All For You" are a few examples that could be considered memorable. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 21:26pm |
.....both Jam & Lewis, have roots in jazz - so, would only follow some of their clients did.....the ONLY thing memorable about "Nasty", is the hook; a WHOLE lot of posturing, while both "All For You" and, to a SLIGHTLY lesser extent, "What Have You Done For Me Lately", are just INCREDIBLY non-committal, utter trifles with no real emotional clout, which evaporate upon completion.....with FEW exceptions, she's DIFFIDENT to a FAULT, and others have just done it a HELL of a lot better, more affectingly.....again, NOT worthy; at least Michael has SOME unforgettable soul statements, such as "Rock With You", "She's Out Of My Life" and "Human Nature" (to say NOTHING of "Ben" and "Got To Be There".....his sister, has absolutely NOTHING that even REMOTELY compares to those, NOR a "Do You Know Where You're Going To?", "Touch Me In The Morning", "Good Morning Heartache".....) Posted by ogam5 on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 22:31pm |
So, at least two fallacies in your last post there. The assumption that because Jam & Lewis have roots in jazz that therefore Janet must also as well because "some of their clients did". Which can easily be refuted just as intellectually by saying "And some of their clients didn't." Two, it's wrong to compare Michael and Janet. Family? Yes, but that doesn't mean you can put them on the same playing field. Michael started out in a quintet that had the weight of Motown behind them, so Michael had cut his teeth pretty good before going solo. And fwiw, "All For You" has the appropriate emotional tone for the overall feel of the instrumentation and subject matter. It isn't non-committal, it's a cheery and submissive tone, because that's the tone of the subject in the song. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 23:00pm |
Ah, Philip my old nemesis, it's always a delight to hear from you. So, where do I begin? Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 23:56pm |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 01:15am |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 01:16am |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 01:20am |
Why is Bad Brains listed as The Bad Brains on the ballot? Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 03:43am |
.....briefly to Philip: MOST of Control, passes the ear test for having been HEAVILY influenced (as was Michael on both Off The Wall and Thriller) by freeform jazz - in the latter's case, NOT a huge surprise with Q at the console but, I'm hardly the first to point out Jam and Lewis' similar influences affecting their clients - INCLUDING Prince in some instances.... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 09:00am |
ADDENDUM to Enigmaticus: overlooked both the title track from Seasons End and especially, 'Uninvited Guest' - the video for which, is a HOOT.....also, I should add that The Who doesn't get mentioned nearly enough as a BIG influence with the Fish years and beyond; "Incommunicado", ANOTHER visual hoot from Clutching At Straws - his final album with them, most of all..... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 09:17am |
.....finally, one LAST note today for Philip: it might help you to understand my grievances with JJ, if you know that THIS, is by far, my favorite dance track of the last 35 years, both soulful and haunting - don't know WHAT to say that it's performed by a Nordic Caucasian; but there's NO reason Janet couldn't have produced something comparable, and there's just NOTHING in her catalogue its equal - like Paula Abdul (whose "Blowing Kisses In The Wind", written by the Family Stand's Peter Lord, Sandra St. Victor's bandmate, hence my mention of her further up in this thread - is a true soul CLASSIC; also STRONGLY recommend "Sweet Liberation" and "Shelter" by them) Robyn's clearly influenced JUST as much by Diana and the Supremes, reaches the level of Shannon in terms of Ross wannabes since 1983..... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 10:12am |
.....damn; an oversight - was gonna say that, who could've seen Paula Abdul ever evoking comparisons to KATE BUSH? Still, Natalie Cole did a STUNNING cover of "Man With The Child In His Eyes" some time ago..... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 10:18am |
Enig, Posted by Philip on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 11:13am |
.....there's NO question Diana was an egomaniac and, yes, can see something of your point; actually like the post-Ross Supremes a bit more myself and am now very familiar with their output as well as most of Diana's solo hits (JJ pulls out something like "Love Hangover" or "Upside Down", and I might be LESS averse to the notion of her being inducted - but to say Janet was a huge influence - outside some of the absolute WORST recording artists in history (Family Stand aside and even then, only as relates to the Chain album, their proper debut) on African-American culture, is something of a STRETCH; in terms of presentation, LaBelle, Cher are the EARLIEST female sources (won't get into the entirely male Parliament-Funkadelic, EWF and Commodores aspect) of present-day pop stars' costuming and stage presentation..... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 11:38am |
ogam, that you said her influence is pretty much only on "some of the absolutely WORST recording artists in history" really tips your hand more that it's a personal taste thing than anything else with you. And that's fine to a degree. But I think it's jading you a bit too much, and more to the point, it's also a mere part of what I was saying to Enig in the first place. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 13:34pm |
Well I haven't been On here a few days. I must say I have been missing some good chats. Now Janet is worthy even Though I don't like her music. She is one of the Jacksons. She doesn't deserve it as much as Michael who was a great dancer. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 14:42pm |
Hey, Ben - it's "Do You Know (What It Takes)" by Robyn, demonstrating an actual well-arranged, compelling song that shares only superficial aspects with most of Janet's material, and much more with Paula's.....as for Philip's retort, isn't a LOT (though NOT in toto) of this process about personal taste? But to anyone who has at least a PASSING familiarity with what 'music' constitutes, those to whom I referred as the absolutely WORST recording artists - sorry for the seemingly conflicting misnomer - which includes utter noise such as Misdameanor, Minaj and to a SLIGHTLY lesser extent, M.I.A. (who is RIDICULOUSLY overrated) they are HOPELESSLY tone-deaf, wouldn't know a good melody (OR other than utilitarian rhythm) if it bit them on their satin-covereds, and the SAME can be said of JJ in FAR too many instances....all spectacle, attitude - and almost NO heart, soul.....just as an ANTIDOTE for talking about such creatures, feel compelled to post a song showcasing ALL of the forementioned traits, by a group that, like the Five Stairsteps, rivaled the J5 (and Stylistics) on more than ONE level.....starts slow but, kicks into a PHENOMENAL progression: Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 15:57pm |
The process does get personal taste involved quite a bit, but does it run the process? Well, we could debate that until the sun goes nova. But the point is, you're using personal taste almost entirely as the sole criterion for deciding whether or not an artist is worthy. You don't like Janet, or the artists who seem to be most heavily influenced by her. Verdict: keep her the hell out of the Hall. That's really not a productive discussion. No heart and soul? While I'm inclined to agree to a degree, it's also kind of subjective. Personally, I think much of dance, particularly EDM as a genre, lacks "heart and soul" kind of by design... going back to progenitors like Kraftwerk. So, kind of odd to me to hate Janet for that reason alone. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 19:49pm |
That's not to say I don't like electronica and dance music, although I haven't delved deeper into it to be more versed in it. Still, it's good aural enjoyment for me. The resurgence of popularity for Yoko Ono because of the remixing and rerecording of her older stuff has gotten me interested. I enjoy Swedish pop in general, and would definitely hook up with Amber in a heartbeat. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 19:53pm |
I love Diana Ross (singing in The Supremes), but 'soul' she was not. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 20:00pm |
if you guys want to hear some soul & funk, by a young talent, check out Lizzo. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 20:03pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUPuC4M6Es Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 20:17pm |
.....only songs I really like that fall under the techno or electronic banner (a lot of Erasure, some Depeche - NOW - New Order) are "Once In A Lifetime" by Wolfsheim, and "Illuminate" by Orbital with David Gray - EDM stuff, would almost certainly put me to SLEEP before long - and let me just say it: noisemeisters such as Skrillex, is pretty much unlistenable - hate, hate, HATED "Close To The Edit"..... Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 21:15pm |
Steve wrote: Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 11/3/2016 @ 23:34pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/vote Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 06:27am |
Wow that's cool. Journey is #1. I like Journey quite a bit. I mostly the Hits with them but also some albums. City of the Angels is a good tune from Evolution. Chain Reaction is good tune from Frontiers. Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 07:23am |
.....checked out about a half-dozen Lizzo vids, Paul - way, WAY too much monotone rapping for my taste on ALL (both "Batches & Cookies" and "Bus Passes & Happy Meals" the worst offenders) but "Let 'Em Say" and, especially "Good As Hell" (where she reveals the FAR-too-rare ability of melodic rapping and, other than Mary J., RARELY heard by these ears). Intriguing but, based on that sample, hardly essential listening - YET.....here's the aforementioned Joyce Kennedy and Mother's Finest throwin' DOWN on one of the numbers from Another Mother Further, certainly among the greatest of African-American rock groups' albums (not far removed from those of either Rufus or LaBelle, true ENOUGH.....) Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 08:14am |
I still think that there could be 8 inductees. Back in 2012, I had voted for: Rush, Procol Harum, Donna Summer, Randy Newman and Heart. Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 09:11am |
ogam5, thanks for checking her out. She's dynamite live. Also young & will get better. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 15:13pm |
Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 18:15pm |
Correction again. Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 19:18pm |
My birthday is December 17, and I know the last 4 classes have all been announced on or around my birthday, so I would think the same goes this year since the fan vote ends December 5th. Posted by Greg P on Friday, 11/4/2016 @ 21:27pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/5/2016 @ 10:41am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 11/5/2016 @ 11:01am |
Now as far as the Voting Body. A bunch of acts have a good Chance. Joan Baez and ELO should get a lot of Votes among 60s and 70s Veterans. Pearl Jam Will get lots and lots of Votes all around. Chic and J. Geils Band could get quite a bit of Votes. What will hold 2Pac back is a lot of veterans may Feel that since NWA went in that its enough on Rap for awhile. Journey shoud do real good and also Janet Jackson and Chaka Khan. There is over 800 People that Vote. They are Previous inductees and Music critics. Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/6/2016 @ 12:21pm |
Other acts like Steppenwolf and the Zombies should get a lot of votes from 60s and 70s Veterans. They may fall short to be inducted. Those 2 can come back another Year. If its up to me Yes are going in but sadly there is a lot of competition from other Classic Rock acts. Acts like Depeche Mode and Kraftwerk will probably find it hard to get Votes with so many choices. Depeche M and Kraftwerk will both probably return. I AM NOT into electronic music a lot. The Cars should get a decent amount if Votes. I can see that. Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/6/2016 @ 19:47pm |
I think there will be a legitimate early influence inductee this year, and it will be Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/7/2016 @ 05:04am |
The Nom Com is still (after all these years) clueless and reactionary. Oh well, at least they deigned to nominate Bad Brains, Kraftwerk and the MC5. Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 11/13/2016 @ 11:55am |
MY PREDICTIONS FOR THE RRHOF CLASS OF 2017: Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 11/14/2016 @ 23:11pm |
Meh, I'll give a prediction a try. I won't do into detail, though: Posted by SotN on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 01:15am |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 08:21am |
I really Joan Baez will get in this year but I think they will put her as an Early Influence after being nominated as as Performer just like Wanda Jackson Freddie King and The 5 Royales were Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 11:31am |
Thanks for the kind words, Ben! Sorry about the post being all lengthy; I just had to put it out there. Then again, people who do the rankings and list-voting on this site tend to clog up the comments pages so I guess I shouldn't be sorry (laughs). (Word to the webmaster: create two different comments sections, please!) And I don't do the blogging thing anymore, since less people are reading blogs these days. Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 12:13pm |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 12:41pm |
Joan Baez is not going in early influence! Joan Baez has a lot of friends voting. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 12:52pm |
Roy, Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 15:10pm |
Yo, I got a question. When the poll last year on their site was going on, how many of the top five inductees from their poll got in? I know at least three did. I don't know how high N.W.A. was but I don't think they were top five in their list? Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 18:40pm |
Maybe the joke's on us - MC5 and/or the Zombies may replace 2Pac on the ballot for all I know. Just another month away until we know for sure.... Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 19:18pm |
Jason, Posted by Nick on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 20:17pm |
Tim, Posted by Nick on Tuesday, 11/15/2016 @ 20:29pm |
Roy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 05:17am |
That wasn't me. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 06:48am |
Why is Kraftwerk now leading the FRL poll? Where are all these Kraftwerk voters coming from? Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 06:49am |
FRL, agree with Jason. There should be a recent comments page that is separate & does not include all the Rock Hall Projected, Song Project, Album Project comments. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 07:49am |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 15:34pm |
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/project_comments.php Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 11/16/2016 @ 21:54pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 11/17/2016 @ 09:34am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/17/2016 @ 13:45pm |
Thanks for the perspective on Joe Tex, all. I'll give him another shot. For some reason, I think Brook Benton is in the same situation (even though he's never been nominated). Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 11/17/2016 @ 14:33pm |
And thanks FRL for hearing my suggestion about the comments lists. Just so nobody gets the wrong idea, I mean no disrespect to those who take the time to make lists for these projects on this site. I'll be frank - sometimes I do find it interesting on what the true music historians have to say as far as what's the best. On the other hand, I also like to catch up on what's posted on the nominees/inductees pages too. Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 11/17/2016 @ 14:38pm |
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but some people have been putting pictures of the ballot up on social media. FRL retweeted MC Ren's photo today. I noticed that it says the ballot is due by December 15, which would suggest that the announcement will not be made around the 17th, as it has been the past few years. I'm wondering if it will even come before the new year. Posted by Greg P. on Thursday, 11/17/2016 @ 15:40pm |
Thank's FRL for your quick action! Now, if you could just get pages for those acts I emailed you about months ago...;-) Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/18/2016 @ 08:08am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/18/2016 @ 09:14am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/18/2016 @ 10:38am |
I just want to say that I did Not predict Yes this year as an Inductee. I think ELO may block that. 2 Prog acts in one Class may be too Hopeful. I am a huge Yes fan. When I predict a class it is Not just based on personal taste. It is a realistic look at how it may go with the Class of 2017. Jason agrees with this. Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/18/2016 @ 13:36pm |
.....apparently my page hasn't successfully refreshed in DAYS.....a few notes / observations, inquiries: Posted by ogam5 on Sunday, 11/20/2016 @ 08:40am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/20/2016 @ 09:48am |
In the final analysis, I had voted for these particular artists, for induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2017: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/20/2016 @ 10:02am |
ogam5 - Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 11/20/2016 @ 19:57pm |
I checked them all and none have been nominated. Brook Benton is the only one that has been 'previously considered' according to this website. Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 11/20/2016 @ 20:06pm |
Nick, Posted by Tim on Monday, 11/21/2016 @ 01:51am |
Sooo as far as my Votes and my Predictions. I Voted for Joan Baez, Electric Light Orchestra, Pearl Jam, Yes and the Zombies. Those 5. Those are NOT my predictions. 3 of them are. My Votes reflect my personal tastes. My predictions are NOT just my Personal tastes. So Enig, I voted 4 out of 5 the same. Yeah I did Vote for Pearl Jam. I like them and they deserve it. I DO NOT like Nirvana. Pearl Jam is one of the few major 90s bands I like. Posted by Ben on Monday, 11/21/2016 @ 10:40am |
For some reason, I don't think they'll induct Joan. Again, like last time, Janet seemed to be the most popular among the ladies and as far as I can recall, no woman was inducted last year. Posted by Tim on Monday, 11/21/2016 @ 21:50pm |
I'm shocked that Eddie Trunk didn't pick Steppenwolf! Depeche Mode? Really? But then again, I didn't listen to the show, so I'm assuming his listeners or whatever had something to do with that. Otherwise, great choices on the ballot. Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 04:29am |
.....not sure what anyone else's take here is concerning artists that have had comparatively MASSIVE success in the UK and Europe, MOST other countries besides the US - for me, the GLARING example is Suzi Quatro, who should've been inducted LONG ago, ESPECIALLY being an American pioneer of her craft VERY familiar to the upper Midwest - but as I've been able to check out all his b-sides with Guy Chambers, HAVE to add Robbie Williams to that list for the near future; the 4 albums upon which both collaborated (Life Thru A Lens, I've Been Expecting You, Sing When You're Winning and Escapology, feature some of THE best songs EVER written, quite comparable to the Fabs, EJ and Who it's true but nonetheless original, a LOT more diverse than some might think, grunge or hardcore-heavy in places, and others, VERY soulful - a BIG part of why he's been able to move over 72 million units in the last 2 decades.....RW's definitely on my bucket list of shows! Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 07:07am |
Who was Eddie Trunk's 5th pick? The picture doesn't go down the ballot far enough to show the 5th. I saw the Cars, Depeche Mode, ELO, and Journey, but who was the 5th pick? Also, does anyone have a link to be able to hear the show. I'm interested in listening to it. Posted by Donnie on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 08:41am |
Yes. Posted by dmg on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 09:19am |
Hi everyone. I checked out the Eddie Trunk site for his full Ballot. I found it. I figured some others would wonder besides me. His 5 picks were The Cars, Depeche Mode, Electric Light Orchestra, Journey and Yes. The great act Yes is Eddie Trunk's 5th pick. I too am shocked he didnt Vote for Steppenwolf. The line Heavy metal thunder should have ushered in a Vote from Him. Perhaps Eddie Trunk doesn't know their other stuff very well. Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 09:28am |
Did Trunk actually say he didn't know any other Baez or are you assuming that because he happens to focus most of his energies on other genree? Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 09:38am |
ogam5, I'd go with Kate Bush or PJ Harvey over Susie Quatro as performers who are huge in UK/Europe, but not so much here. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 09:54am |
Dezmond, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 10:12am |
Ben wrote: Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 11:54am |
.....I'd certainly agree with you about Kate, Paul - P.J. on the other hand, is a MASSIVE long shot (like Ani over Tori; just DON'T see it happening, and I don't necessarily say that as someone who hasn't ever been impressed by the former's style, approach to songwriting) while AGAIN, Suzi should've been inducted WAY before either Joan Jett or Blondie (sold 20 million more records than EITHER) as Debbie Harry ALSO idolized her..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 12:45pm |
Rick, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 13:59pm |
Rick and Ben, Posted by Nick on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 14:10pm |
ogam5 and Paul - Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 14:29pm |
Nick, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 16:41pm |
.....as to Gary G., would say that in more than a FEW aspects, his BAND eclipsed him, as one of the most influential from that MINDBLOWINGLY diverse year, 1974 - you can hear their influence as much as Sweet's and Queen's in a LOT of Eighties hair metal, and the consistency of their songwriting is DAMNED impressive (a BIG favorite: "Watch The Show") but of course, "Goodbye My Love" perked several different punk acts' ears OTHER than The Stiffs..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 11/25/2016 @ 16:59pm |
I have been watching portions of "Rush: Time Stand Still" and "R40 Live" on BluRay this evening. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/26/2016 @ 02:29am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 11/26/2016 @ 07:40am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/26/2016 @ 11:57am |
Nick wrote: Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 11/26/2016 @ 13:21pm |
.....Enig, one that you and more than a few others leave out a lot, is 10cc - not HUGE here in the States but, extremely influential on the likes of XTC and They Might Be Giants (to name but TWO.....). Nick, from where I sit, of ELO, Yes and Journey (ALL deserving of first-ballot induction, to be SURE) one of them doesn't make the cut - and unfortunately, I suspect it'll end up being Yes..... Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 11/26/2016 @ 14:08pm |
Ogam 3, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 09:36am |
Ben and ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 12:12pm |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 12:17pm |
ogam5, after doing a little wiki-ing, I'd have to agree with you that Suzi Quattro is a better pick for Hall than PJ Harvey (currently). Posted by Paul in KY on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 12:20pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 15:17pm |
.....very true, Paul! Enig, there are a LOT of fantastic 10cc tracks to check out other than that LEGENDARY one (there's a BBC doc which is truly OUTSTANDING....) but I'd recommend "Wall Street Shuffle", "Speed Kills", "Headline Hustler", Fresh Air For Mama", "Rubber Bullets", "Donna" and "I'm Mandy, Fly Me".....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPae3K-rUw Posted by ogam5 on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 18:55pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/vote Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11/27/2016 @ 20:30pm |
ogam 5, Posted by Ben on Monday, 11/28/2016 @ 13:51pm |
Damn, poor Joe...all the way at the bottom of the pole. He doesn't even have 1/10th of the votes that Journey has. Still has a chance though, since the fan ballot only counts as one anyway Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 11/28/2016 @ 14:29pm |
Enig, Posted by Tim on Monday, 11/28/2016 @ 16:30pm |
FRL REGULARS Posted by KING on Monday, 11/28/2016 @ 23:07pm |
I really don't think the poll has any bearing on future nominations or is viewed with any credibility by most people at this point. The poll is a shiny object to kill time until the real ballots are submitted. Steppenwolf will come back if someone on the NomCom wants and pushes hard enough for them to come back. Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 11/28/2016 @ 23:58pm |
DarinRg, maybe the person trying to get fannies in the doors of the Rock Hall might care, but the average member/voter probably cares little to even making them being more against the top votegetters. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 10:26am |
DarinRG, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 13:17pm |
"Steppenwolf would not return because of The Fan poll but because people like Paul Schaefer and Dave Marsh want them back" Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 16:10pm |
.....despite Chic seemingly having been nominated nearly HALF the Hall's existence, I worry that we'll never see Harum up again - and if there's ONE band other than the Moodies who are deserving of induction for their sizable influence on prog, it's THEM..... Posted by ogam5 on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 16:24pm |
DarinRG, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 19:01pm |
ogam5, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/1/2016 @ 09:23am |
December has arrived. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/1/2016 @ 09:25am |
Enig and ogam 5, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/1/2016 @ 12:00pm |
.....more sad news, on the eve of Johnny Guitar's QUITE untimely passing 36 years ago: Greg Lake has joined Keith in taking leave from Karn Evil No. 9.....R.I.P., sir; you were a class act to the END :( Posted by ogam5 on Thursday, 12/8/2016 @ 06:58am |
Sad new indeed. R.I.P. Greg Lake. He was a class act Vocalist. So both Keith Emerson and Greg Lake are gone. It is only the P that remains from ELP. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/8/2016 @ 13:29pm |
For those wondering when I'll have my official predictions up on Rock Hall Monitors, I've got it about 85% written, but it's slow going. Posted by Philip on Saturday, 12/10/2016 @ 00:50am |
One more prediction on the Class of 2017: Posted by Joe on Monday, 12/12/2016 @ 01:46am |
Janet's child is reportedly due this month and the Hall of Fame ceremony is in April. I think she'll be okay. She'll probably do the N.W.A/Madonna route if she's inducted: get someone else to perform in her place. Posted by Tim on Monday, 12/12/2016 @ 16:32pm |
Tim, you're probably right. Thanks for setting me straight. Posted by Joe on Monday, 12/12/2016 @ 16:58pm |
And even more sad news: Rest in Peace Bob Krasnow, record executive (Elektra) and co-founder of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1934-2016. Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 12/14/2016 @ 18:05pm |
I just read that the 2017 Rock Hall of Fame inductees will be announced next Tues. Dec. 20th. The headline says Pearl Jam will find out if they are inductees. We all know they will be. That's an automatic No brainer. We will also find out if ELO and Journey are inducted. So the announcement is in less than 6 days. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/14/2016 @ 19:27pm |
Pearl Jam is a sure bet to get in. So is ELO and Journey (due to their long history of being snubbed). It's the other positions that we need to watch out. And how many will it be. Posted by Tim on Wednesday, 12/14/2016 @ 19:42pm |
Yes indeed a key question I have is How many inductees it will be. I am guessing 6 since it has often been 6 in recent years. We will find out. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/15/2016 @ 06:26am |
KING's 2016-2017 Inductees RRHOF. Posted by KING on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 05:15am |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 10:06am |
I agree with everyone that these 4 are locks: Posted by Classic Rock on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 10:31am |
Ok, I usually don't make predictions, but I'm going to give it a go this time around. Posted by Steve Z on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 10:42am |
Who do I think will be inducted? Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 14:42pm |
Who do I think will be inducted? Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 16:02pm |
Judging on just five... here's who I think might be the final five: Posted by Tim on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 16:34pm |
My predictions: Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 17:24pm |
My 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class Prediciton: Posted by Billy R on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 18:05pm |
As we wait for the Rock Hall’s announcement on the 2017 inductees, I thought it would be interesting to see what are some of FRL’s regular’s favorite songs from each of this year’s nominee. It's something to ponder while we wait this Tuesday morning. Here’s my picks. Posted by Nick on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 18:17pm |
My Rock Hall Fan votes... Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 12/17/2016 @ 20:58pm |
Here’s my predictions for the class of 2017 and some analysis - Posted by Nick on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 00:10am |
This is the most interested I've been in a class reveal in quite a few years. The Voting Committee got bigger and younger this year and a lot of people are overlooking how many voters who have revealed ttheir ballots have voted for Kraftwerk. Also, I won't go so far as to predict that Journey doesn't make it, but I've never seen more tepid support for a fan poll winner as this year. It's going to happen eventually. Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 03:47am |
This is the most interested I've been in a class reveal in quite a few years. The Voting Committee got bigger and younger this year and a lot of people are overlooking how many voters who have revealed ttheir ballots have voted for Kraftwerk. Also, I won't go so far as to predict that Journey doesn't make it, but I've never seen more tepid support for a fan poll winner as this year. It's going to happen eventually. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 08:30am |
Guess I'll do some prognosticating as well: Posted by Paul in KY on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 10:31am |
Wow, sorry you had to experience that, Nick. I did hear about how not nice Neal was. And sorry that turned you off from the band. That had to suck. Posted by Tim on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 12:00pm |
Interesting, Nick. I've had a couple similar weird episodes with Joan Jett but that didn't stop me from supporting her from getting into the HOF. (It was going to happen anyway...) Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 14:16pm |
"I really do hope Journey will be first to win Rock Hall's Fan Vote but not be inducted after Neal Schon's very unprofessional behavior by blocking me from his Official Record Company Twitter Account over some friendly banter with zero foul language and insults except from them that he or their fans couldn't take, so now I'm no longer a fan of the band, thanks!" - Rick Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 17:01pm |
DarinRG, Posted by Nick on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 18:40pm |
I'll drop by real quick with one more prediction: Posted by SotN on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 19:54pm |
I've seen a few people float the idea of Pearl Jam not making it because enough voters will assume that everybody else is voting for them and skip out, but I'm seeing Pearl Jam on a lot of ballots. I think that Journey is at the biggest risk of assumption. I'm not seeing them on many ballots and few people are even attempting to make a case for their importance beyond having a few popular songs. The fan poll results are always eye rollingly predictable and the idea of a fan poll winner not making the cut is uncharted territory, but Rush, SRV and Chicago all showed obvious momentum and support that I'm just not seeing for Journey. There may well be a silent majority out there for them among official voters, but if so, they've been really silent. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 20:23pm |
My prediction: Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 20:34pm |
Yeah. There is a possibility Journey may not be part of the final list of nominees. I'm actually seeing more support from Kraftwerk than I am of Journey, which surprised me. Posted by Tim on Sunday, 12/18/2016 @ 23:04pm |
I'm not so sure ELO is the lock many seem to be suggesting. Just as others like Chic and Donna Posted by Arrow Man on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 01:00am |
I'm not so sure ELO is the lock many seem to be suggesting. Just as others like Chic and Donna Posted by Rick Vendl II on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 01:29am |
Interesting comments about ELO and Journey. So even they're a question mark as far as being inducted goes. There's a possibility both groups won't get in this year. Posted by Tim on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 02:13am |
I read some interesting posts of the last day on predictions in General. I do see that even ELO and Journey are in question about being Inducted. I still think ELO will pull through due to a lot of appeal among all kinds of Veteran Voters. Now Journey may not have that kind of support among Veteran voters. I AM NOT changing My predictions. Slightly younger voters Can vote for Journey. Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 05:40am |
Why was the FRL 2017 Rock Hall Pole taken down? Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 07:22am |
Classic Rock, I'm not going to take that bet, because I've seen them & have 2 of their albums & I can't name one of their songs!! LOL!! Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 07:41am |
I will repost my Predictions for the Class of 2017. Im going with 6 inductees. This is due to the fact there is 19 Nominees. They are unchanged. Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 08:09am |
Same here, Ben. I'm sticking to my list, which mirrors yours (and the FRL guy's) except 2Pac is in my Top 5 and Chic is still my pick if they induct 7. Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 14:55pm |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 15:36pm |
I just don't see 2Pac making it First ballot. This is a large diverse ballot and votes scattered to different artists. Look how many times it took NWA to receive induction and LL Cool J still on the outside. This ballot helps out ELO & Journey since plenty of Classic Rock groups have been inducted last 5-10 yrs. They should vote for 1 or both. YES still under the radar somehow. The Nom Com has been putting YES on the ballot up to voters now. There's always a surprise who shows up. KING Posted by KING on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 16:27pm |
My final, FINAL, picks for 2017. I don't know how many times I said it was my final. But I'm finally making some legit lists. Like who I WANT in, who I THINK will get picked, and who will be snubbed. Posted by Tim on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 16:34pm |
One last chance to post my wishlist. I know it's unlikely but who knows... Posted by MichaelEU on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 16:59pm |
My wishlist: Posted by dmg on Monday, 12/19/2016 @ 17:05pm |
.....WOW - Journey, ELO, Yes, Pearl Jam AND Joan ALL inducted - in the same YEAR!!! Plus, Chic FINALLY disappears from the NOMINEES list - for the BEST reasons..... Posted by ogam5_2001@yahoo.com on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:32am |
I should've known Joan was gonna go in lol Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:37am |
Why is not Dave Mustaine and Megadeth in hall of fame?He is the most importen person behind thrash metal he deserves to be here.what he gave metallica anthrax slayer the key on how to sound.why is it that no one gets what they deserve when they are still alive just look at michael jackson when he was alive everyone tryed to destroy him but when he was gone all of a sudden he is raised to the sky for his talent Dave mustaine is the greatest in metal pleas let him know now when he still is with us Posted by Johan ahlqvist on Tuesday, 02/14/2017 @ 10:08am |
Johan, honestly I think there's alot of people in The Hall who either don't care about or actively dislike 'thrash metal'. If they get in, it will be in about 20 years or more, IMO. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 02/15/2017 @ 17:43pm |
I'm still waiting on the Marvelettes to be nominated and win. This is a major fumble. Looking at the list of who hasn't made I was a bit taken aback. So many great bands and entertainers. Is it political? Do you have to know someone to get nominated. Marvelettes please Posted by Amy on Saturday, 02/25/2017 @ 06:03am |
http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1870/Motowns-Marvelous-MARVELETTES?page=1 Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 02/26/2017 @ 18:26pm |
http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1870/Motowns-Marvelous-MARVELETTES?page=1 Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 02/26/2017 @ 18:29pm |
Here are my preliminary fifteen nominees for 2017/2018 in strictly alphabetical order: Posted by dmg on Tuesday, 04/25/2017 @ 17:14pm |
Joe Cocker should have been inducted a long time ago, this is a shame and a sin, what a flawed system you must have to not put in one of the greats. Posted by drew on Wednesday, 05/17/2017 @ 16:17pm |
DMG Posted by KING on Wednesday, 05/17/2017 @ 17:26pm |
I think we can now safely write Soundgarden into next year's nominations in permanent marker. As we have seen, death isn't *always* a guaranteed way to overcome the snub list; but with Tom Morello on the nominating committee, I can't imagine him not wanting to pay tribute to Chris Cornell, who he played with in Audioslave. I could even see him shooting down any discussion of Rage Against The Machine so he didn't feel like he was competing against Soundgarden/Cornell for votes. Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 05/18/2017 @ 11:46am |
Bill G. Posted by KING on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 10:07am |
"Getting closer to nomination season. Wonder if you could suggest which R&B to put support for nomination & induction. As you know Chaka Khan, Janet Jackson, The Spinners, The Marvelettes, etc have all fallen short in recent years. I'm leaning towards The Spinners again and adding Kool & The Gang this year. Maybe, Janet gets through this time if nominated. Thanks for the James Brown threads. Highly informative and interesting reads." KING Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 12:08pm |
Also deserving of serious consideration due to their long , distinguished careers: Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 18:45pm |
Deserving left over Motown acts still not yet in: Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 18:54pm |
More deserving Motowners: Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 18:56pm |
I'd actually kind of hate to induct the Funk Brothers as a unit for two reasons: one, they already inducted a couple members individually as Sideman inductees, and thus isn't fair to the other members who would only be part of a unit induction; and two, as proven by the inductions of the groups over the past few years (heck, over the Hall's whole history), they still screw it up and leave important members behind but never go back to them, because, hey, the Funk Brothers are in and that should be good enough. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 23:25pm |
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