Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame
The 2017 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees
The 2017 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees will be enshrined at the induction ceremony on April 7th, 2017 in Brooklyn.
The inductees were announced on SiriusXM Volume at 8:00am on December 20th.
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Musical Excellence:
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Future Rock Legends forecasts which of today's artists will be the next generation's Rock & Roll Hall of Famers by using a combination of historically predictive criteria, user votes, and nomination patterns.
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448 comments so far (post your own)Poor Nile. He really deserves better. I hope the NomComm just middle-fingers everybody and keeps nominating Chic anyway. Nile's entire body of work outside of Chic really is its own separate honor. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 08:12am |
On one hand, im just glad they inducted more than 5. On the other, still not a diverse enough class, and it's a class that will add a lot more white male classic rockers to the voting body. They've created a vicious circle. Posted by DC on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 08:16am |
What a dickish thing to do. Give Nile Rodgers an award for musical excellence but simultaneously spitting in the face of Chic and the other members of the group. Rock Hall voters should be ashamed of themselves. Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:02am |
My 2 cents on this year's induction class: Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:14am |
"On one hand, im just glad they inducted more than 5. On the other, still not a diverse enough class, and it's a class that will add a lot more white male classic rockers to the voting body." Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:20am |
There you have it. The Big announcement of the 2017 Rock n'Roll Hall of Fame inductees. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:41am |
Neither record sales or fan devotion should matter. Only influence and innovation. On that note, his is a pretty good class, much better than last year. Journey is defininity the weakest inductee, but it's not a horrible choice based on historical standards. Pearl Jam and Tupac are both totally deserved of first ballot induction. Good to see back to back years with a Hip-Hop inductee, great sign for the future. Hip-Hop is Rock and Roll, deal with it. Congrats to Rick on ELO finally making it in! Totally deserved and way overdue. Joan Baez and Yes getting in was also way overdue. Hopefully next year one of the British 80's alt rockers can get in (Depeche Mode, The Smiths, The Cure, etc). This is easily the Halls weakest area. Hopefully Kraftwek and the MC5 return to the ballot. R&B has been neglected the past couple years, since Bill Withers, hopefully Janet Jackson, The Spinners, or another act get in next year. Agree that what they did to Chic is a joke, but I think we all knew that was the direction it was probably heading. This clas also opens up a lot of roadblocks in the diffenent genre avenues particularly Grunge/90's Alt, Progrssive Rock, Hip-Hop, and Folk/Singer-Songwriter. Will be interesting to see who gets nominated next year! Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 09:56am |
"Neither record sales or fan devotion should matter. Only influence and innovation." Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 10:23am |
Also I was starting to doubt my choice of Journey but they came through as an inductee for 2017. They were a key group of the 80s. Even though they are known far and wide as an 80s band their breakthrough was in 1978 with Infinity. I also know their 1st album was as a sort of Progressive instrumental Band in 1975 with no Singer. They soared with Steve Perry. Im just sharing some extra knowledge. I dont know that early Journey very well. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 10:50am |
"I also know their 1st album was as a sort of Progressive instrumental Band in 1975 with no Singer. They soared with Steve Perry. Im just sharing some extra knowledge. I dont know that early Journey very well." Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 11:24am |
Pretty happy with this class. Still disappointed no Cars induction, but I'm fairly confident they will get in at some point, now that they've gotten the multiple nominations. Although after two years in a row, I wouldn't be surprised if they miss out on a nomination next year but will be back the year after. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 11:33am |
I'm happy with this class and I'm very happy that they went with six inductees. I do feel bad for Chic, but I think what will happen is that the NomCom will give Chic a break for now, and focus on other important R&B acts that could get in and then after a while bring Chic back. At least, that's what I hope happens. Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 11:50am |
Dezmond, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 12:37pm |
Great class, overall. Thank God ELO finally made it!!! Rick.I'm partying & I know you are :-) Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 12:46pm |
The friggin' older voters, most of them boomers, are making this all too obvious in terms of who gets in... Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 13:17pm |
Favorite songs from each of the performers: Posted by dmg on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 13:51pm |
Yawner of a class. The Rock Hall digging it's own grave deeper and deeper. Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 16:05pm |
WOW, go me! I was spot-on with my Top 5 picks (2Pac, PJ, Baez, Journey, ELO). I figured there would be an act who has made an appearance at least a couple times in the past that would go in the 6th spot. I picked the J. Geils Band (so did Ben and the FRL guy), but instead it was Yes. And I'm very satisfied with that! Way to go guys. I can see where everyone had their doubts about Tupac being a first-ballot inductee, but let's face it....like him or not, he's an icon. As a teenager from the mid-to-late 90s, I knew what effect he had with my generation. I'm sure a lot of you in my age group know too. Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 16:22pm |
Rock Hall 2018 predictions based on current trends: Radiohead, Judy Collins or Carly Simon, Ice-T, Supertramp, Doobie Brothers, Foghat Posted by boar on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 17:04pm |
"Musical Excellence Award: Peter Wolf" Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 17:10pm |
Danny, Posted by boar on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 17:13pm |
Congrats to the 2016-2017 Inductees!!! ELO, Joan Baez,Journey, Pearl Jam, 2PAC, and YES. I think this is an A- grade class. Pearl Jam easiest prediction. I'm surprised 2PAC made it 1st time around. The Winner Fan Ballot Journey continues the streak. Good to see Joan Baez & YES inducted as they will open some logjams in the folk and prog areas. It might make sense to go to a small ballot 12 next year and vacuum up multiple nominees now Janet Jackson, The Cars, Kraftwerk, J. Geils Band etc. Janet Jackson & The Cars will be back next year and should earn induction. Rick should be happy with the ELO induction no doubt Jeff Lynne and ELO made an impressive catalogue of songs. Nile Rodgers deserving Musical Excellence. Can't blame the Nom Com. They put Chic on ballot 11 times. That's on the voters. The 2017-2018 ballot will be interesting with Radiohead a sure fire inductee. KING Posted by KING on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 17:20pm |
I find it funny that Journey is the most controversial inductee in this class: Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 18:04pm |
"Yawner of a class. The Rock Hall digging it's own grave deeper and deeper." Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 20:33pm |
The Rock hall is trying to catch up with its backlog, while trying to include newer acts as well. I'd love to see Joy Division, the Cure, Depeche Mode, Bad Brains, etc. get in, but voters may see acts like the Moody Blues, the Zombies, etc. as being more of a priority since they've been snubbed for longer. There's a place here for all of these artists. Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 21:13pm |
I can't really complain too much about this class, though I would have preferred Kraftwerk over Yes or Journey. The Hall really needs to get Kraftwerk inducted, because it's becoming more and more evident every year that they are holding up the rest of the bands that fall under the "highly influential, but as much name recognition" category. Posted by BSLO on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 21:21pm |
Personal top 10 wish list for acts that have any chance at all of making the hall: Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 21:41pm |
"Diverse? How about talented? It's as if achievement has been replaced by ageism, race and gender. What should be considered is the record sales and the devotion of its fans." Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 22:37pm |
Well, it appears I was right in saying there would be 7 inductees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2017. In an amazing twist of fate, I apparently got 6 of the 7 predictions I made in October right. I was correct on Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam, Yes, Electric Light Orchestra, Joan Baez and Chic; albeit Nile Rodgers will be going in under his own name for his entire life's work. I had hoped Janet Jackson would go in; yet it became clear that when Journey won the most votes in the fan ballot, Journey would henceforth be inducted. Posted by Lax33 on Tuesday, 12/20/2016 @ 22:50pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 02:15am |
Well, I will now have to look forward to 2018. Let's hope that the following artists will finally receive a nomination next year: Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 02:27am |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 10:55am |
Right on, Ben! It really sucks to say how predictable this was going to be for most people. And this ballot had 19 nominees! I guess that's what popularity contests are all about, as in there will be some people who are happy. It'll be a great ceremony, hopefully drama-free, and predicting who will induct who will be interesting. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 12:38pm |
For anyone who is interested, and who is a Spotify junkie, here is a playlist for you: Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 12:45pm |
Hey Enigmaticus: Except for Sade, King Crimson, and Willie (+ maybe Roxy), your proposed nomination list is LAME (not that most will even sniff a ballot, thank the lord)! The reason so many have grown to hate the R&RHOF is that too many 'classic' rock types from the same era are getting in at the expense of R&B, metal, and esp. 80s indie acts! Yet another thing the Baby Boomers (too many of whom voted for Trump) who won't die have ruined... Posted by BoomerBuster on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 15:37pm |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 15:38pm |
The artist failing to get in that best epitomizes the problem with having voters that are mostly writers and performers from around the 1960s is Depeche Mode. There is absolutely no argument you can make against a Depeche Mode induction and no reason that they should not be easily inducted. That band checks literally every box you can think of, and if they can't get in, there's something very wrong with the voting body. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 16:05pm |
The eventual problem should have been foreseen a long time ago. Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 18:55pm |
My early predictions for the nominees for next year: Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 19:28pm |
Gram Parsons - sorry. didn't fix that typo before posting. Posted by shrek on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 19:29pm |
I'm all for Tina Turner (as well as Diana Ross) getting inducted as a solo artist! But a part of me thinks that if it didn't happen already, it never will. Eh, who knows. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 19:54pm |
This years winner's list was so predictible... Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 20:24pm |
They figured that , if they actually ARE going to induct a woman , They would want THEIR CHOICE to get in. So Joan Baez magically appears on the ballot, from seemingly out of nowhere...and walks right past Chaka and Janet into the Hall. So, I guess it's OK to induct a woman...as long as she's of the right ethnic group. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 20:37pm |
...And The Marvelous Marvelettes , Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 20:39pm |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 20:39pm |
Speaking of The IMPERIALS, Little Anthony and Co. were the very Last R&B-identified group actually inducted by the Voting Body. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 20:56pm |
Hey Bill G. I was hoping you'd have something to say about what I wrote on RHM about Joe Tex. Here's an excerpt I thought you'd appreciate about why he might not get in: Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12/21/2016 @ 21:58pm |
Bill- Posted by DC on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 02:02am |
Tired, dead idea... "talented" and "fan devotion" as rockist buzzwords. Everybody on this year's ballot is talented and has devoted fans. Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 02:49am |
Bill- Posted by Bill G on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 03:10am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 06:08am |
I am impressed with the Class of 2017. The Hall of Fame got it right minus not putting in Janet Jackson, but I know Joan Baez has waited longer than Janet. Posted by Kyle on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 08:15am |
My ideal 2018 nominees/inductees: Posted by danny on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 15:10pm |
Yours and very few others... #moveonfromlamea**babyboomerrock Posted by End of Boomers on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 16:58pm |
Rock Rankings from this site for the inductees: Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 18:40pm |
"Yours and very few others... #moveonfromlamea**babyboomerrock" Posted by danny on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 20:56pm |
Another thing I'd like to add is I can automatically add two more acts to my "RRHOF Inductees I've Seen Live" list. (For those that don't know, I'm trying to see as many HOFers I can , I've been doing this for 6 years now...) Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 21:24pm |
"Has anyone seen any of the new inductees perform live?" Posted by danny on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 21:38pm |
I know it's a year away, but here is my early draft of the 2018 nominees Posted by Christian on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 22:24pm |
Jason, Posted by Greg P. on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 22:36pm |
My early predictions for next years nominees: Posted by Evan on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 22:51pm |
I really think there should be 2 hall of fames: one for FAMOUS acts and one for critics. At the famous hall, Bon Jovi would get right in, and at the critic hall y'all can ohhh and ahhh over Bad Brains. Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 22:58pm |
@Bill G. - I couldn't POSSIBLY agree with you MORE, sir! Been IMMERSING myself in Stylistics all this WEEK and, rather than try to make a difficult - though VERY justifiable - case for them being inducted, Blue Magic, the Spinners and Delfonics, let's just induct Thom and Linda - if they AREN'T in already as heritage artists.....in addition to those legendary ensembles, the duo contributed GREAT numbers to Ace Spectrum, New York City and, if I'm not terribly mistaken, Black Ivory (who arguably RIVALED Airrion and Russell in their earliest days.....if you can ever find their Today label compilation CD - first 2 albums - GET IT! Also, the later "Daily News' is one of THE greatest songs EVER written, in ANY genre - NO exaggeration.....) Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 01:20am |
.....NO, Gassman, hip hop and rap are DAMNED well NOT 'rock and roll' - hell, the latter's not even 'music' by any REASONABLE definition; rather, 'performance art', and I won't EVER 'deal' with the truly PATHETIC attempts to characterize it as such....let them have their OWN Hall Of Fame, and stop RAIDING other genres' creative stores after almost 4 frequently AGONIZING decades of TOO much atonal, repetitive NOISE..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 01:26am |
@BoomerBuster: NO, Enig's list is anything BUT 'lame'; Kansas, Procol, Roxy, APP and Tull - Sparks, TOO - are every BIT as much influential on SCORES of later bands as Yes and, ESPECIALLY, the critic's apparent DARLINGS, Kraftwerk, while some other acts who are RICHLY deserving of consideration when awareness of their ENTIRE catalog increases, include BOTH Big Country (Stuart Adamson was one of THE most gifted musicians that ever LIVED; ditto Brezcecki, Butler and Watson) and Simple Minds, Marillion.....all, INCREDIBLY innovative more often than NOT..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 01:35am |
Putting every other word in ALL CAPS means you're SERIOUS. Posted by DC on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 01:43am |
So much white baby boomer anger in here you'd think it's a Trump or Klan rally. Posted by Gassman on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 02:04am |
Hall of Famers I've seen live (I've been to the last 3 Hall Induction Ceremony's and I am counting those): Posted by Gassman on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 02:16am |
@ Danny: agree with MOST of your list but, while they ARE favorites of mine too, would definitely go with Badfinger (and the MONKEES! Absolutely RIDICULOUS they're NOT in yet) before the Raspberries..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 03:23am |
.....gee, DC - couldn't it ALSO be indicative of trying to provide distinctive emphasis? ANOTHER moron, opens their clumsy virtual mouth..... GASman (for that's what YOU reveal yourself as emitting) did you NOT see my posting about the Stylistics and other soul groups? RHETORICAL question I guess, though - don't you DARE play your COMPARABLY tone-deaf IMPLICATE racist dog-whistle game with ME, jackass..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 06:11am |
All caps = short man syndrome? Posted by Christian on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 06:28am |
I like this idea of which Inductees I have seen live.I just want to say As much as I follow the Rock Hall stuff I have never made a conscious effort to see Inductees. I have saved every ticket stub since my concert going began so this task will be easy. It is an interesting concept of which inductees I have seen Live. Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 06:29am |
Rock and Roll Hall of Famer's I've Seen Live Posted by Donnie on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 07:16am |
Jason, think I've mentioned this before to you, but I saw ELO perform in 1978 on their Out of the Blue tour. Hall & Oates opened for them. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 07:44am |
Hip/Hop (rap) is every bit as much rock as prog is. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 07:47am |
Very impressed with the amount of the HOFers some of my fellow commenters ave seen! Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 07:53am |
.....click your HEELS enough and, maybe you'll make it so, Paul.....rap, is absolutely NOT as much rock as prog is, not even CLOSE; falls PATHETICALLY short in terms of arrangements, structuring, attempts to convey COMPLEX concepts - with PERHAPS the occasional exception of Insane Clown Posse's repertoire (and just as an aside, I'm QUITE familiar with the genre's origins - should've REMAINED a mere IDIOM, though.....what's NEXT? Shall we render REGGAETON a formal genre of its own?) Christian, you're QUITE the callow bit of effluvia, AREN'T you..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 08:17am |
I guess I should have listed the Inductees I've seen when I made my initial post. These are acts I've seen outside of Induction Ceremonies: Posted by Greg P. on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 08:52am |
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees I've seen in concert in chronological order: Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 10:07am |
Forgot to include Dave Davies for 2013 Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 10:15am |
Welp, since I brought it up and its continued as a topic on this page, I'll go ahead and share all the RRHOF Inductees I've seen: Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 12:28pm |
Too bad you couldn't have seen The MIRACLES when they were all still together. Their concerts were FAR MORE EXCITING than just Smokey alone . Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 12:41pm |
Why are we still talking about ROCK ? Who is , who isn't , and who should be ? Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 13:21pm |
"@ Bill G. - I couldn't POSSIBLY agree with you MORE, sir! Been IMMERSING myself in Stylistics all this WEEK and, rather than try to make a difficult - though VERY justifiable - case for them being inducted, Blue Magic, the Spinners and Delfonics, let's just induct Thom and Linda - if they AREN'T in already as heritage artists.....in addition to those legendary ensembles, the duo contributed GREAT numbers to Ace Spectrum, New York City and, if I'm not terribly mistaken, Black Ivory (who arguably RIVALED Airrion and Russell in their earliest days.....if you can ever find their Today label compilation CD - first 2 albums - GET IT! Also, the later "Daily News' is one of THE greatest songs EVER written, in ANY genre - NO exaggeration.....)" Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 13:40pm |
And, let's not forget... Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 13:50pm |
"Hip/Hop (rap) is every bit as much rock as prog is." Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 18:55pm |
".....click your HEELS enough and, maybe you'll make it so, Paul.....rap, is absolutely NOT as much rock as prog is, not even CLOSE; falls PATHETICALLY short in terms of arrangements, structuring, attempts to convey COMPLEX concepts - with PERHAPS the occasional exception of Insane Clown Posse's repertoire (and just as an aside, I'm QUITE familiar with the genre's origins - should've REMAINED a mere IDIOM, though.....what's NEXT? Shall we render REGGAETON a formal genre of its own?) Christian, you're QUITE the callow bit of effluvia, AREN'T you....." Posted by Philip on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 19:19pm |
The acts that should get inducted because of their legacy and not because of their race. Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 19:39pm |
Patti La Belle should go in with the Bluebelles ...not solo . They should also receive credit as the group Labelle, since that group consisted of the same members: Sarah Dash and Nona Hendrix . All three have had successful Salot careers of varying success. All three should be inducted. Also, the fourth original member of the BlueBelles, Cindy Birdsong, who was snubbed from induction with the Supremes, should also be inducted. Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 19:55pm |
Sorry about all the typos. Remind me to type my messages by myself and on my own, instead of using this stupid voice command. Ha ha. Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 19:58pm |
No one is saying that any artist should get in because of their race. They should get in because they deserve it. Because their influence and their legacy makes them Hall of Fame worthy . I forgot to include the Manhattans on my list. Definitely deserving. Also the Belmonts, Mary Wells, Chuck Jackson, the aforementioned Duke of Earl himself, Gene Chandler, the Dominoes, Johnnie Taylor, Brook Benton ,The Pointer Sisters, and numerous others who have had to wait because of this rap thing. Let the rappers wait a few more years. The R&B artists have waited long enough. Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 20:17pm |
"No one is saying that any artist should get in because of their race. They should get in because they deserve it." Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 20:24pm |
Hey Bill, Posted by Steve Z on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 20:30pm |
Congrats to Rick on ELO finally making it in! Totally deserved and way overdue. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 21:31pm |
Thank God ELO finally made it!!! Rick.I'm partying & I know you are :-) Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 21:47pm |
Rick should be happy with the ELO induction no doubt Jeff Lynne and ELO made an impressive catalogue of songs. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 21:48pm |
It really is mind numbingly stupid that Dave Abbruzzese was left out of the Pearl Jam induction and that Kelly Groucutt, Mik Kaminski, Hugh McDowell, & Melvyn Gale were left out of ELO's. Abbruzzese was there for the Vs. & Vitalogy albums, which are two of PJ's most essential. Groucutt, Gale, McDowell, & Kaminski all have long histories with ELO and played on their most essential albums. I mean, how do you leave out the orchestra part of a band called "Electric Light ORCHESTRA," not to mention their BASSIST. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 21:54pm |
ogam5, don't give a shit what you say. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 21:59pm |
Jason (and others), Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:07pm |
danny, don't give a shit what you think, either. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:09pm |
Paul, Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:10pm |
Bill G., I hear you & agree 100%! Best wishes to you & your family! Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:10pm |
Phillip. I do give a shit about what you think, but you're wrong here. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:14pm |
Paul, you need to re-read what I wrote... I was agreeing with you. I started by quoting ogam, then refuted him. Hip-hop can be complex, though many times it isn't. But it is still very much rock'n'roll. Posted by Philip on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:19pm |
danny, don't give a shit what you think, either Posted by danny on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:27pm |
danny, Posted by Philip on Friday, 12/23/2016 @ 22:40pm |
I just want to know one thing, if somebody can answer this for me. Make that two things: Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 03:07am |
I just want to know one thing, if somebody can answer this for me. Make that two things: Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 03:07am |
Bill G, My guess is that the music critics from around the late 1960s are to blame. Music journalism became big around the same time as albums became more than a collection of songs. Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, Blonde on Blonde etc made critics consider the album as the medium that artists can be judged on, while the single and the performance became to be considered less important. To this day, music magazines and websites spend far more pages on album reviews than on reviews for songs or concerts. Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 06:16am |
Interesting discussion on R&B and the Classic Rock Groups. I think one poster brought up a good point that these Classic Rock Groups have 4 or 5 members and that's 5 votes that go to a like artist. Some of the rap or R&B might be 1 artist and that's only 1 vote. Posted by KING on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 07:04am |
One point I forgot to add, and that hurts the chances of R&B acts, especially vocal groups, is that songwriters are considered by both the music press and rock fans to be 'truer' artists than interpreters. If you don't write your own music, you'll have a more difficult time to get inducted. Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 08:37am |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 08:46am |
.....Philip and Paul, PLEASE, by ALL means, go live BLISSFULLY in your cognitively dissonant DELUSION - but DON'T subject, INSINUATE those of us INTO it who actually ARE capable of distinguishing between MUSIC, and BARELY-organized NOISE, self-indulgent NARCISSISM masquerading as valid expression, blindly serving only to obliterate even any consistent RHYTHM, utterly DEVOID of especially USEFUL or even CREATIVE insight, incredibly moving melodies (such as "Love Is Blue", to name one of THOUSANDS that less DESENSITIZED folks CAN appreciate.....) Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 11:53am |
P.S. and oh, BTW, Philip, when speaking of 'complex concepts' it was in reference to prog, NOT all rock and roll (hence OBLITERATING your tacit suggestion that rap IS prog.....) Posted by ogam5 on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 11:58am |
to Paul from KY- Thanks for your very kind comments ,Paul !! Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:16pm |
ogam5, the great thing about a discussion on a form board is that everybody can read back what exactly has been said. This was your point: Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:21pm |
Rather than just be completely critical, I'll offer a list of artists that, if inducted, would help to restore some of the Hall's credibility amongst the younger generations of alternative music fans. (This is completely off the top of my head, mind you.) Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:30pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt3eOCtJcas Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:30pm |
Oh yeah, I forgot MC5 and the New York Dolls Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:31pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bNOVK_qzQA Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 12:39pm |
I do think that there's a place for all of these types of artists in the hall - from the wildly successful rock bands of the 60s and 70s, to the R&B/Doo Wop/Funk/Soul acts, to Hip Hop artists, to Punk and Alternative rockers and lesser mainstream acts. I like the idea that the Rock Hall is meant to be a wide spanning and detailed collective history of Rock and Roll and all of its branches. Its part of my main aim when we think about inducting artists into the Revisited/Projected project we have here and its also why I find arguments that "we should be finished with the 1950s" or "Rap isn't rock" to be not helpful to the big picture. Posted by Steve Z on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 13:07pm |
Phillip, sorry I misread your post. Hope you have a great Christmas/New Year! Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 13:48pm |
Does anyone think The Ramones were not rock n roll? Cause 90 percent of the hippity hop is more complex than their music. Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 13:53pm |
Yes' and Electric Light Orchestra's induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame will represent another step forward for progressive rock. The question is ultimately which artists will benefit from their inductions? My guesses are: King Crimson, The Moody Blues, Procol Harum and Duran Duran. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 14:51pm |
More artists I'm now noticing that I forgot: Billy Ward & His Dominoes, Johnny Ace, the Jam, Dick Dale, the Fugs, John Mayall, Nine Inch Nails, the Butthole Surfers, Yo La Tengo, Guided By Voices, Nick Lowe, Serge Gainsbourg, Big Youth, Minnie Riperton, Throbbing Gristle, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Buzzcocks, Bad Religion, Mott the Hoople, T. Rex, Todd Rundgren, Link Wray, Nick Drake, Dead Kennedys, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Otis Rush, Billy Bragg, Don Covay, the Shangri-Las, Love, the Walker Brothers, the Spinners, the Shadows, the Meters, the Sonics, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, Ice Cube, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo, Donny Hathaway, Patti LaBelle, Suicide, Roberta Flack, and others. Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 15:01pm |
Correction: Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 15:03pm |
"1950s parents were not complaining about the music that their teenagers were listening to because of its complexity, but because of its simplicity." Posted by Sean on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 15:49pm |
While it's clear there's a bias towards guitar acts over other instruments, bias towards acts who peaked before 1980, and bias towards acts who had US popularity, which is why most of Chalkie's snubs weren't nominated, a few are pretty strange even considering that since it seems like T. Rex, Roxy Music, Todd Rundgren, and the Zombies all have the right instrumentation, era, and US popularity to be embraced and haven't been nominated. Brian Eno also if you count albums he produced towards US popularity. Posted by Sean on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 15:58pm |
Right, the Zombies were nominated. Posted by Sean on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 16:04pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/24/2016 @ 20:08pm |
".....Philip and Paul, PLEASE, by ALL means, go live BLISSFULLY in your cognitively dissonant DELUSION - but DON'T subject, INSINUATE those of us INTO it who actually ARE capable of distinguishing between MUSIC, and BARELY-organized NOISE, self-indulgent NARCISSISM masquerading as valid expression, blindly serving only to obliterate even any consistent RHYTHM, utterly DEVOID of especially USEFUL or even CREATIVE insight, incredibly moving melodies (such as "Love Is Blue", to name one of THOUSANDS that less DESENSITIZED folks CAN appreciate.....)"--ogam Posted by Philip on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 00:49am |
"1950s parents were not complaining about the music that their teenagers were listening to because of its complexity, but because of its simplicity." Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 04:00am |
R&B is neglecting by the Voting Committee for different reasons than the ultra-conservatives. It's not racism, it's misogyny. Hiphop appeals to men, R&B to women. Of course, this is an oversimplification, but it is a fact that 'softer' genres like R&B, soft rock, dance pop, have a more difficult time being acknowledged.. Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 05:16am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KwI-mmGGc Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 08:32am |
Enig and Ben Posted by Greg F on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 18:51pm |
"Does anyone think The Ramones were not rock n roll? Cause 90 percent of the hippity hop is more complex than their music." Posted by danny on Sunday, 12/25/2016 @ 21:06pm |
Yes, because every single hiphop song is about glorifying rape and cop killers. Rappers Delight, The Message, Walk This Way, Planet Rock, Fight for Your Right, I Need Love, Fight the Power, Dear Mama, Hypnotize, Ice Ice Baby, Gettin Jiggy With It, Can't Touch This, Me, Myself & I, Can I Kick It, Paid in Full, Hard-Knock Life, Lose Yourself, Gold Digger, Hey Ya, Killing Me Softly, Gangsta's Paradise, are all about these two subjects. Thanks for clarifying that. Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 06:56am |
I am impressed with the Class of 2017. Joan Baez needed to be inducted before Janet J. if only one female was to be inducted. She has waited a very very long time. I think she was eligible when the Hall first started in 1986. She could have at least been inducted in 1988 when The Beach Boys, the Beatles and Bob Dylan were inducted. She wasn't likely to be in that same class. Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 07:46am |
I had a lot of artists to write. Some others that should be nominated are The Doobie Brothers, Dire Straits, Judas Priest, Motorhead, the Pixies and there are many more. I own stuff from all these artists. I only own one tune from Motorhead and one from the Pixies. All of tese had some kind of influence and impact. These are NOT specific predictions for 2018 just artists to be nominated in the near future. Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 08:00am |
Danny, give me a break. Not all rap/hip-hop songs are about cops and raping women. That's just an ignorant way of thinking and stereotyping an entire genre (most of whom are black and other minorities). Look, hip/hop-rap definitely fits the rock-and-roll canon and those artists deserve to be there just as much as the ones who claim to be "rock." If anything the origins of hip-hop/rap in the late 70s/early 80s mirrors the rise of rock 'n' roll in the early-mid 1950s. Both were misunderstood by the mass at first (and among other similarities they are related to youth culture and rebellion). If anything hip-hop/rap has remained just as relevant (if not more) (just take a look at the careers of Kendrick Lamar, Frank Ocean, etc.) in 2016 than any rock act/band. I just can't stand rockist opinions that denigrates genres and subjects them to wrongful stereotypes. It's just wrong no matter how you think at it. Posted by Nick on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 10:09am |
Thanks, Claw. I don't have to respond to it. You covered it very well. Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 11:12am |
Thank you Ben and Greg F., Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 11:55am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 12:08pm |
Nah, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 12:49pm |
Okay, one more time. Here is my early list of nominees for the Rock Hall for induction in 2018: Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 13:09pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 13:35pm |
Ben, don't know which Pixies song you have, but all of these are killer: Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 19:43pm |
"Yes, because every single hiphop song is about glorifying rape and cop killers. Rappers Delight, The Message, Walk This Way, Planet Rock, Fight for Your Right, I Need Love, Fight the Power, Dear Mama, Hypnotize, Ice Ice Baby, Gettin Jiggy With It, Can't Touch This, Me, Myself & I, Can I Kick It, Paid in Full, Hard-Knock Life, Lose Yourself, Gold Digger, Hey Ya, Killing Me Softly, Gangsta's Paradise, are all about these two subjects. Thanks for clarifying that." Posted by danny on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 19:48pm |
Paul, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 20:44pm |
Danny: Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 20:55pm |
I like these 2017 nominee lists, but I'm surprised that Chubby Checker isn't mentioned in any of them. He may (arguably) be the last major 50s act that isn't inducted. Posted by Joe on Monday, 12/26/2016 @ 22:56pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/27/2016 @ 12:57pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/27/2016 @ 13:19pm |
Ben, I like 'Monkey's Gone to Heaven', fine song. I just personally like the listed ones a bit more. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/27/2016 @ 13:59pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/28/2016 @ 13:53pm |
Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/28/2016 @ 14:20pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/28/2016 @ 16:01pm |
What an utterly dull and unadventurous lineup, aisde from Tupac (not a fan, but he deserves it), ELO, and Yes. The Hall of Shams continues its descent into shameless pandering to populist bands (Journey, Pearl Jam) and acts with zero rock 'n' roll in their DNA (Joan Baez) rather than true trendsetters/innovators (Kraftwerk, Roxy Music, Afrika Bambaataa, Joy Division, New Order, etc.). So much for Tom Morello (why this jerk is even a part of the nominating committee escapes me) and Questlove adding diversity and a better understanding of post-baby boomer acts to the inductions, huh? Let's not neglect some of the highly deserving Early Influence names that should have been included 25 or more years ago (Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Wynonie Harris, Django Reinhardt, Roy Brown and The Ravens are all absolutely mandatory, for starters). Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 12/28/2016 @ 18:23pm |
I usually read Bob Lefsetz's blog at least once a week, and I've posted about him on this site a few times before. Most of you know he usually writes about the entertainment (mostly music) industry, and he is a frequent critic of the RRHOF. Pretty much, he's a guy we want to hate but we also want to listen to as well, since he's mostly right about things. Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 12/29/2016 @ 00:20am |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/29/2016 @ 08:21am |
Zach, certainly agree there are several old-school rappers who need to be inducted (before the mid 90's & on crowd). Those you listed for sure. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/29/2016 @ 18:39pm |
"The Hall of Shams continues its descent into shameless pandering to populist bands (Journey, Pearl Jam)" Posted by Sean on Friday, 12/30/2016 @ 12:53pm |
@Paul: no, but the Ramones were definitely more MUSICALLY complex; AGAIN, by any LEGITIMATE definition, rap is simply NOT 'music' but, BARELY organized, RELENTLESSLY repetitive, NOISE taking its greatest pleasure from narcissistically spinning its wheels - the recorded equivalent of merely chirping tires so, showing off - and it's NO coincidence that its rise in popularity PARALLELS the steady decline of academic music programs since the late 70's - the truly MORONIC comparison to rock and roll's earliest days (of which I'm NOT a fan, either) is simply NOT applicable - 'rebellion', doesn't HAVE to sound like utter CRAP to be credible.....as for hip-hop (an idiotic term of and by itself) the ONLY group I've ever liked enough to buy, was Gnarls Barkley (waiting on the 3rd album) - because Brian and Chris (though I don't like the latter's Goodie Mob stuff at all) actually have MORE than a PASSING notion of what constitutes, 'music'.....one last note: OTHER than GB, the ONLY affecting melodies I've EVER heard in the genre, were "Gangsta's Paradise" and "Hey Ya"..... Posted by ogam5 on Friday, 12/30/2016 @ 13:03pm |
No, Sean, I support innovation (as well as reinvention, for that matter) AND influence. I never said innovation was the only valid criterion. I actually find critical acclaim even less worthy a barometer of HOF candidacy than commercial success, as rock critics tend to be rather myopic in their tastes and "ideal" of great rock 'n' roll music, not to mention quite a few bands in the Hall aren't critical darlings, but more than compensate for their other achievements (Queen is a notable example; their unique brand of theatrical rock, combined with the massive vocal talents of Freddie Mercury, equally massive popularity, and other qualities too numerous to mention outweigh whatever verbal diarrhea that self-appointed, bloated critics ike Dave Marsh and Robert Christgau have spewed about them). Posted by Zach on Saturday, 12/31/2016 @ 23:11pm |
Well, 2016 is finally over in my time zone, Happy New Year everybody! Let's hope that 2017 will be a much better year. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/1/2017 @ 02:02am |
ON REFLECTION Posted by KING on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 00:31am |
KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 03:58am |
What future impacts will result, due to the inductions of Yes, Electric Light Orchestra and Journey? Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 04:03am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Hey everyone I apologize for that post showing 5 times. My Phone went berserk. Sometimes I post from my Cell. Let me test things with this post on my Phone. Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 18:56pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/2/2017 @ 19:21pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/3/2017 @ 20:35pm |
I have expanded my skeleton list of 2018 nominees. Right now I am predicting The Cars, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Iron Butterfly, Janet Jackson, Carole King, Kraftwerk, The Moody Blues and the Smiths. I had 12 in my mind but I am unsure about a lot. I will have a whole list later in the month. I know you would be interested in that Enig and you too King. I have not figured out really about the Metal, Rap and 90s rock Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/4/2017 @ 07:26am |
My nominee 2017. Bravo to The Hall of Fame for is work. Posted by Denis on Wednesday, 01/4/2017 @ 08:46am |
Is the list above from Denis for next year? I would assume when you say 2017 nominee you mean Fall 2017. I am very curious. In any Case good list. I assume its for 2018 class. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/4/2017 @ 14:34pm |
Ok. I revised my skeleton list again. I realize since they tried the Cars twice they may skip on them for 2018 nominees. Yeah I know the Hall tried Chic 11 times in a row. Somebody at the Hall clearly loved them a lot. Other nominees are usually tried a couple times and skipped awhile. I do think there will be a huge push for Janet J. still. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 07:36am |
For sur, I speak about the next year. Posted by Denis on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 10:15am |
While I do think its a bit early for me to predict the Nominations for 2018, I can already say The Cars, Janet Jackson and Bon Jovi have a good chance of showing up again. Of all the never-before-nominated acts, the Moody Blues should be the one. There's a part of me that says they will put more R&B/Soul on there more than ever, or more women. At least that's what I hope, because anytime they are criticized for something, that ought to be where they will listen. Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 12:56pm |
Denis, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 13:01pm |
So I am willing to give that skeleton list of 2018 nominees. I will already say that Bon Jovi, Janet Jackson and Kraftwerk have a good chance of showing up again. Bon Jovi was nominated in 2011. I think Journey has paved the way for Bon Jovi to return. The Hall is pushing Janet J. Now as for Kraftwerk I know they are an electronic band, its not my thing though. I have heard of them and I know they are a big influence in the electronic world. Now since electronic music has impacted Rock and pop in some way I predict them early. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 14:49pm |
You gotta be kidding with touting Iron Butterfly! Enough of old hippie-rock bands, and the alt-reich types who keep pushing them down our throats... Posted by Most Classic Rock Suxs on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 19:11pm |
Actually I don't like In A Gadda Vida. I think its one of the over rated tunes of that time. I like a bunch of late 60s stuff NOT that. Its just a prediction. I only know it was key in that time I also predict Kraftewerk. They are influential in the Electronic music world. Its NOt my thing but I understand it. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 20:14pm |
Dude - The old hippies certainly were not the ones voting for Donald Trump. The most conservative, government hating of the old hippies may have become Libertarians, but they certainly didn't join the KKK or John Birch Society. Indeed the KKK and the John Birch society were actively combating the attempted culture changes being pursued by hippies; and unfortunately for this country those right wing forces have apparently won; likely by managing to convince hipsters like you how "uncool" they now are. Posted by shrek on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 20:15pm |
I have to say, Rick Wakeman's turn around on attending the Hall Of Fame reeks of either complete ignorance of the history of induction ceremonies (widows and families of dead inductees have *always* been invited to pick up that inductee's statue, and even to give thank you speeches!) - or alternatively as complete spin (if there is a big Yes reunion at the Hall Of Fame, it may lead to a reunion tour, and Wakeman doesn't want to be left out of such a lucrative gig by pissing off the other members right now). Posted by shrek on Thursday, 01/5/2017 @ 20:18pm |
Shrek, Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/6/2017 @ 07:07am |
Shrek, Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/6/2017 @ 10:56am |
BEN Posted by KING on Friday, 01/6/2017 @ 21:47pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/7/2017 @ 07:45am |
Something I have noticed is that most 80s acts were skipped over to get to 90s acts. Pearl Jam and other 90s are very deserving but it just seems like too many 80s acts were skipped over. Journey are just going in Now. They have been eligible for about 15 years. Bon Jovi,Def Leppard,Duran Duran,The Replacements and Tina Turner are all acts that should have been inducted already. Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/7/2017 @ 09:45am |
Ben and KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/7/2017 @ 13:54pm |
Oops, I forgot Radiohead by mistake, or did I forget them deliberately? Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/8/2017 @ 06:13am |
So I am still NOT ready with a full list for 2018 but some acts I would like to see on a ballot in the next couple years are as follows. Def Leppard, The Moody Blues, Procul Harum, The Cars, Duran Duran,Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Spinners and Tina Turner are all acts I would like to see inducted in the near future. Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/9/2017 @ 09:05am |
Enigmaticus and Ben, Posted by Nick on Monday, 01/9/2017 @ 10:10am |
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rolling-stone-music-now-podcast-rock-hall-of-fame-2017-class-w460116 Posted by Roy on Monday, 01/9/2017 @ 20:32pm |
I am ready. Here is my full list of nominees for the 2018 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 07:59am |
I think you would have to say this is a pretty diverse list. I am sure of you will notice it. It is Not as prog heavy as Enig's but it has a couple Prog acts. Hey since ELO and Yes are even inducted at the same time why Not ELP and the Moody Blues on the same ballot. This list is subject to change. I agree that Duran Duran is an enduring band and a band with just a few lineup changes. I can see Duran Duran as a prog band. The thing is I think the Hall wants to take care of 80s alternative bands like The Cure and the Smiths first. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 14:08pm |
Have said it before, but I consider Duran Duran to be a pop band. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 18:00pm |
BEN Posted by KING on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 20:26pm |
Let us for a moment consider the top 25 albums from this induction class and where they might rank overall. Now, since I know almost nothing about Tupac Shakur and very little about Pearl Jam, I would be unlikely to place them near the top of the list. Those artists who I am more familiar with will likely rank more highly. Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 01/11/2017 @ 03:18am |
Let's try this again, shall we? Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 01/11/2017 @ 03:34am |
King, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/11/2017 @ 07:01am |
I have this little tradition of playing all the current Rock Hall inductees. I own stuff from 5 out of the 6. I easily played 5 of them including Pearl Jam. I sampled Tupac to learn more on Itunes. I played a whole lot of Yes. I played stuff like Long Distance and the Close to the Edge epic yrack. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/11/2017 @ 09:02am |
As far as 80s on my list. The Cure seem likely to return. They had several anthems or key tunes for the 80s new wave and Alt crowds. Tunes like In Between Days and Love Song were big. The Smiths could just as well return. I want Duran Duran more than either but someone said they are more pop or are viewed as Pop. I owned Rio once and there is more than Pop. Hungry Like the Wolf was a great anthem in the 80s but Save a Prayer was kinda known too. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/12/2017 @ 11:36am |
“Rush and Yes and ELO are as good and as loved and as worthy as most of the acts in the Hall,” noted Rowley via e-mail. “I think it’s very damaging to the Hall of Fame’s credibility to continually ignore bands that they perceive to be on ‘the fringes,’ whether they’re prog, punk or metal acts. It makes you wonder if the selection committee is actually run by music fans. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 01:23am |
Ok so I have a few topics regarding the Rock Hall to touch on for everyones reading pleasure. Posted by Vito on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 02:46am |
There are so many artists who should have been inducted years and years ago: Posted by Vito on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 03:10am |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 08:27am |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 11:11am |
Nearly 8 years ago, Tony Sclafani wrote the article, "Why the Rock Hall Says: No Rush for You!" Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 13:54pm |
First of all, let's look at the 2017 inductees and their relationship to "prog rock," courtesy of info obtained from Prog Archives: Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 14:24pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/14/2017 @ 14:34pm |
Once again, I will attempt to list those artists, who I believe may be nominated for induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2018. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 00:04am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 06:13am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 06:48am |
I agree with the nominees you guys predict for next year. There are a few that although I think deserve the nomination, probably shouldn't or just won't get inducted anytime soon. NIN, Smashing Pumpkins and Radiohead, I am a big fan of all these bands but I just don't think they did "enough" to go in before other bands from that revolutionary 90's era. I think Soundgarden and Alice in Chains have a great shot of getting in over the next couple of years and I predict they will. The hall has been inducting bands over the last few years who were at the forefront of the 90s era hence the inductions of Nirvana, Green Day and now Pearl Jam. And again a band like Bad Brains who heavily influenced Nirvana and an entire generation of punks only got nominated but will hopefully go in soon. Posted by Vito on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 13:22pm |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 14:33pm |
Vito, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 15:08pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 15:13pm |
Enig, Posted by Enig on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 15:30pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/15/2017 @ 22:01pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 05:11am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 09:20am |
Let's try this again: Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 09:33am |
Enig, Posted by Vito on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 09:49am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 12:41pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/16/2017 @ 13:37pm |
I just want to say again it is such a great triumph to have ELO and Yes as inductees. It is also a triumph to have Journey. They represent the 80s this year. It brings 80s arena Rock into the picture. As I said Journey is a good sign for 80s acts in the Hall. This should pave the way for Foreigner who are Ok. I am really NOT sure about Boston any time soon. They had the one notable album. Styx has a greater posibilty. These arena bands started in the 70s but had a lot of success in the 80s. Bon Jovi and Def Leppard seem like next in line. King mentioned Jon Bon Jovi was shooting his mouth off about the Hall so lets give it to Def Leppard for next year. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/17/2017 @ 06:27am |
You know what. I am revising my list of predictions for 2018. I read a list on the Northrumbrian Countdown by Alex Voltaire I think. I didnt stop to think that Beck is not eligible until the following year Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/17/2017 @ 21:12pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/18/2017 @ 08:27am |
Ben and Vito, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 09:42am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 15:51pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/21/2017 @ 11:52am |
So, the question really becomes: Why weren't any major "progressive rock" bands inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame between 1996 and 2010? Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/21/2017 @ 12:09pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/21/2017 @ 14:15pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/21/2017 @ 17:07pm |
I don't always initialize a chat on here. Where is everybody? I guess people are busy. I have been very busy too so I understand. Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 08:48am |
Neil always does a nice job inducting people; and it will be interesting to see what Alex Lifeson has to say since he used his own induction to do a bit of silly performance art rather than a speech. Jackson Browne makes some sense for Joan, though I think it would have been more interesting to have Rob Halford (and his participation at the event might well have prodded the committee to actually give Judas Priest a shot next year). Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 13:44pm |
Jackson Browne is inducting Joan Baez, Alex lifeston and geddy Lee inducting Yes (makes the most sense). No surprise about Neil Young inducting Pearl Jam. Chris Cornell of Soundgarden or Michael stipe would have also been great choices for pearl jam too. Posted by Kyle on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 14:00pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 15:00pm |
I'd like to see Brian May induct Nile Rodgers - a world renowned guitarist with unquestionable Rock and Roll street cred, who admits to freely lifting riffs from Chic - just to reinforce how truly short sighted and petty it is for the voters to have passed up on inducting Chic all of these years. Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 18:43pm |
Well those were Nice responses to the Presenters announced. As far as ELO. I will mull that over. It is true that there isnt much of ELO'S influence in Petty's music but Petty and ELO have worked together a lot. Paul McCartney makes a lot of sense. Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 19:13pm |
I think Paul McCartney should induct ELO. Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 07:40am |
I have been thinking about a presenter for ELO. I will make a correction. PETTY AND JEFF LYNNE have worked together a lot. Petty never worked with the whole group of ELO. Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 10:54am |
Presenter possibilities... Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 12:12pm |
^ ELO Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 12:17pm |
Rick, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 16:03pm |
My early predictions for the 2018 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees(if there are 19 nominees again next year just like this year) Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/28/2017 @ 21:25pm |
7 of these acts are on my list. I dont think ones like Judas Priest, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston would happen right Now. The Hall wants to push Janet J. as far as Pop goes. Its NOT because those acts are Pop. In the case of Judas Priest I thought they had a good chance but some friends pointed out that a band like that may NOT be likely NOW due the image they present to more traditional People in the Hall. I have noticed that Hard Rock not actual Metal acts have been nominated so far. The only act actually Metal nomimated was Black Sabbath. They date back to early 70s. Bon Jovi, Deep Purple and Cheap Trick have all been nomimated. So Def Leppard is very likely. Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/29/2017 @ 09:33am |
It depends what yu call Classic Rock. Is Def Leppard considered Classic Rock or just 80s Hard Rock? I dont normally think of them as Classic Rock. 60s and 70s Rock is Classic Rock. I like Def Leppard but I was wondering about genres. Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/29/2017 @ 12:33pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/29/2017 @ 12:39pm |
Ben wrote: Posted by Rick Vendl II on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 00:07am |
Rick, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 07:36am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 15:17pm |
How about Randy Jackson to induct Journey? Great name recognition from his run as a judge of American Idol; and he actually recorded with the band in the mid-80s for their Raised On Radio album. Posted by shrek on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 17:02pm |
I figure Journey will be inducted by Jon Bon Jovi. For all Bon Jovi's supposed hair metal trappings they sound much more like like the late '70s/early '80s arena rock of Journey/Foreigner/Eddie Money/Bryan Adams, etc... than they do the other hair metal bands to me. They basically sound like Springsteen meets Journey, so this seems obvious to me. Posted by Sean on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 19:15pm |
Sean, your suggestion for Nile Rodgers is purely cruel and sadistic. It's further driving the blade into those members to ask them to induct their cherry-picked member. No, that's just plain wrong. It'll be a crony or someone who's benefitted from Nile at the controls as an producer independent from Chic. Posted by Philip on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 23:54pm |
Philip wrote: Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 00:15am |
It's still a tenuous-at-best connection, Roy. One I would not use seriously. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 00:38am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 00:49am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 08:23am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 08:31am |
"Sean, your suggestion for Nile Rodgers is purely cruel and sadistic." Posted by Sean on Tuesday, 01/31/2017 @ 18:33pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 02/1/2017 @ 11:30am |
Ben, Posted by Vito on Wednesday, 02/1/2017 @ 20:47pm |
I haven't read all the recent posts about who we should all think about who's inducting whom - but I do know, my money's on Kendrick Lamar for inducting 2Pac. While 2Pac has inspired countless rappers, it was Lamar who became influenced heavily after appearing in one of 2Pac's videos when he was young. They both grew up in Compton, different generations. And as we hopefully know, Lamar is arguably the biggest star in rap/hip-hop right now. Even Prince said a year ago in an interview that Lamar was very important in music. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 02/1/2017 @ 23:52pm |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 07:59am |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 08:18am |
"The only act actually Metal nomimated was Black Sabbath." Posted by Sean on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 17:46pm |
Actually I did flub that. I forgot about Metallica in 2009. Wow. I did. There was Black Sabbath and Metallica. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 18:47pm |
Hello Sean, Posted by Vito on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 21:45pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Friday, 02/3/2017 @ 06:51am |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Friday, 02/3/2017 @ 11:17am |
Ben I agree that's the way its gonna be for a long time. Everyone's time will come eventually. I do like some Traffic, Rem and Jeff Beck. The only Rid Stewart stuff I like is the Jeff Beck stuff. Not really a Genesis or Steely Dan fan except a couple songs but they both deserved the honors. Posted by Vito on Friday, 02/3/2017 @ 16:35pm |
It's the Journey and Pearl Jam combination that got the 2017 Rock Hall induction ceremony sold out. Is this year's venue larger or smaller than last year's? A lot of empty seats last year. Posted by Roy on Friday, 02/3/2017 @ 20:00pm |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 13:40pm |
Sean, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 14:35pm |
I would label Rush as one of the first prog-metal bands. They were clearly one of the biggest influences on the main prog-metal movement of the late '80s/early '90s (Queensryche, Dream Theater, and so on.) I don't think that's dissing them, but I think their guitar riffs are too hard for them to fit comfortably with Genesis, Yes, or ELP. I think prog and metal would both be valid labels for them. Posted by Sean on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 15:27pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 16:17pm |
The 2016 and 2017 induction ceremonies, both at Barclays in New York. 19,000 seats. Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 18:51pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 02:50am |
Sean, nobody said you were dissing Rush by calling them a metal band. But they really just aren't, I respect your opinion though. Posted by Vito on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 13:28pm |
Enig, Posted by Vito on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 13:35pm |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 14:19pm |
I'll give it a shot : Posted by Vito on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 15:04pm |
hey guys who do you see getting inducted into the Rock Hall next year in Cleveland Posted by richie on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 18:09pm |
Vito, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 19:12pm |
E017-2018 could be the year Huey Lewis & The News receives a nomination. The 80's hit machine and workmanlike band has plenty of fans young and old. I think they have a shot in 2017. What do you think? KING Posted by KING on Tuesday, 02/7/2017 @ 02:00am |
King, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 02/7/2017 @ 10:13am |
King, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 02/7/2017 @ 12:42pm |
Ben, Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 02/7/2017 @ 22:33pm |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 02/8/2017 @ 05:40am |
http://observer.com/2016/12/2017-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees/ Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02/12/2017 @ 01:38am |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 02/12/2017 @ 16:12pm |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 02/12/2017 @ 16:27pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 02/13/2017 @ 13:00pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 02/18/2017 @ 20:44pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 02/18/2017 @ 21:39pm |
Enig, Posted by Philip on Saturday, 02/18/2017 @ 21:55pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 02/20/2017 @ 07:28am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 02/22/2017 @ 09:04am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 02/22/2017 @ 09:12am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 02/22/2017 @ 13:10pm |
" target="_blank" title="http://songhall.org/images/sized/images/uploads/news/Inducteessm2-628x295.jpg[/img]">http://songhall.org/images/sized/images/uploads/news/Inducteessm2-628x295.jpg[/img] Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/22/2017 @ 19:31pm |
Enig, Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 02/22/2017 @ 22:10pm |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 02/23/2017 @ 09:10am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Friday, 02/24/2017 @ 16:08pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 02/25/2017 @ 13:14pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 02/25/2017 @ 14:00pm |
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/songwriters-hall-of-fame-2017-inductees-announced/ Posted by Roy on Monday, 02/27/2017 @ 19:46pm |
The 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony will be on Thursday, June 15th at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in New York City. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03/2/2017 @ 20:13pm |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 03/16/2017 @ 14:30pm |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 03/16/2017 @ 14:42pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 03/25/2017 @ 05:16am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 03/25/2017 @ 16:56pm |
" target="_blank" title="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7jcRziXkAAdXP1.jpg[/img]">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7jcRziXkAAdXP1.jpg[/img] Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 03/26/2017 @ 01:47am |
I am noticing that a couple Yes members were snubbed. Peter Banks and Patrick Moraz. Although all the key members have been included. There is also Geoff Dowmes and Trevor Horn but they were in a lineup without Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman so I have mixed feelings about those 2. Drama is Ok but zi prefer ones with Anderson and Wakeman. Anyone have thoughts? Posted by Ben on Sunday, 03/26/2017 @ 19:08pm |
I figure we should know soon who the presenters are for ELO,Journey and Nile Rogers. I think Tom Petty has a great chance as does Paul McCartney. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 16:43pm |
Some other choices for Inducting Nile Rogers are Diana Ross and Christina Aguilera. I am not a Nile Rogers expert but I respect some of his production. Someone should respond. That would be coool. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 16:50pm |
I thinking Madonna or Diana Ross or Daft Punk or Lady Gaga would do the induction honors for Nile Rogers. Posted by Greg Flagg on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 17:10pm |
I forgot about Madonna. She was Produced by Nile at some point. I dont really know Daft Punk. Lady Gaga is certainly famous. I dislike her a lot but she would represent the younger crowd. There has been plenty of young performers who induct inductees. However I am thinking it would be an Older performer like Diana Ross or Madonna. The Lady Gaga choice may be more controversial. It could even be Britny Spears. I think she knows Nile too. Personally I think it should be Diana Ross. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 19:29pm |
Madonna was my first thought for Nile Rodgers. But knowing her, I always think that she's too good for those events. Yes I know she inducted Abba and she attended her own induction but I don't see her inducting Nile. But I've been wrong before. If you'd like talk about this generation, maybe Pharrell Williams. Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 21:58pm |
As far as Journey, that would be a tough one. I really don't know who would induct them. Sure, there are plenty who are willing. I just don't know who has really followed their path, into blooming into a big arena-rock band. There's several, I know. Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 22:01pm |
Jason.... the then-living members of the Bee Gees inducted ABBA, not Madge. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 23:14pm |
Philip, Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 23:37pm |
One episode versus a running gag for a season or two.... gonna say nay. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 03/28/2017 @ 23:56pm |
One episode, yes, but that one episode was the series finale to one of the biggest and most revolutionary shows of all time. Even more so, it was part of one of the most talked about final moments in television history. I'm sure Glee added to it, but it was with the Sopranos that reignited that spark. Plus, I figure the connection with the Sopranos and Steven Van Zandt would be an easy go to, as well as Sopranos being more well-regarded than Glee is. Posted by Steve Z on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 00:39am |
Jason, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 07:23am |
Jason, Freddie would have been perfect for a Journey induction. Maybe Mr. Bon Jovi? Doesn't have to be a HOFer (I think). Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 08:07am |
Hey everyone. While we were chatting it was decided who the remaining presenters will be. I looked on Current Rock Hall of Famers on this site. ELO will be inducted by Dhani Harrison,George's son. Journey will be inducted by Pat Monahan of Train. Nile Rogers will be inducted by Pharrell Williams. Pharrell has worked with Nile Rogers as well. There you go. It didnt hit the news yet. Everyone may comment. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 09:33am |
Also announced that Lenny Kravitz would be performing a tribute to Prince. I assume that this will likely be the opening performance, similar to the one done for David Bowie to kick off last year's ceremonies. The question is which song will Lenny do? I personally would hope for "Let's Go Crazy", complete with the "Dearly Beloved" introduction. Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 19:35pm |
"as well as Sopranos being more well-regarded than Glee is."--Steve Z Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 20:59pm |
Presenters for the 2017 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Announced Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 23:21pm |
Presenters for the 2017 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Announced Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03/29/2017 @ 23:22pm |
So let me reflect on the presenters. I discovered the remaining ones on this very site just before the announcements on the web. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 03/30/2017 @ 07:21am |
I just want to clarify about my Nile Rogers comment. I said I thought they would have an older presenter because he goes further back. I realize that makes no sense. Alll Rock Hall inductees go further back. Lets try that again. I thought an Older presenter like Diana Ross would induct Nile because the Hall wanted to show off Nile's deeper past. Soo many young performers Induct inductees. I know Kid Rock inducted a few. I think Dave Grohl inducted Rush. Hey Black Keys inducted Steve Miller. But they did go with a young performer choosing Pharell. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 03/30/2017 @ 09:19am |
My take on the presenters: Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 03/30/2017 @ 11:50am |
When I mentioned drama - yes the other drama I alluded to was the drama over Steve Perry. There are other dramas this year - but the Jon Anderson and Steve Perry questions were the major ones that have major impacts on the actual night of the ceremony. Nobody knows if he will be there, what he might say if he goes, what the vibe will be like, if he will consider singing in any capacity, etc. Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 03/30/2017 @ 12:44pm |
Jason, I've seen Train & they are badass. Pat Monahan is a great vocalist. Good pick, IMO, for Journey. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 03/30/2017 @ 15:27pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Friday, 03/31/2017 @ 17:41pm |
There was just news that Steve Perry will be at the Rock Hall ceremony. It was just announced. I think that Steve Perry left Journey due to Health reasons not arguments 20 years ago. Can anyone fill me in on that. I will read up on that. So Steve Perry will be there. They are NOT sure he will sing Posted by Ben on Friday, 03/31/2017 @ 18:42pm |
In 1996/1997, Steve Perry went out on a hike in Hawaii and suffered pain on his hip. Doctors said he had a bone disease in his hip and needed hip replacement. The hip injury sidelined the band from touring in support of their 1996 album trial by fire. Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain lost patience and wanted Perry to get the surgery or go on tour. As a result, Journey hired a new singer and Perry left the band and never returned. I am very happy that Steve Perry isn't gonna pull a axl rose, Van Halen, Sex Pistols, and Peter Cetera and will be joining Journey at the induction. Perry did attend the Hollywood walk of fame in 2005, so I knew he couldn't pass up the hall of fame. Posted by Kyle on Friday, 03/31/2017 @ 19:36pm |
Kyle, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 04/1/2017 @ 08:13am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 04/1/2017 @ 15:23pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 04/1/2017 @ 18:11pm |
I also think there will be a 2Pac tribute for Rap fans. Pearl Jam will probably be the last act like Posted by Ben on Sunday, 04/2/2017 @ 10:08am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 04/2/2017 @ 16:23pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 04/2/2017 @ 16:23pm |
I'm thinking that since Genesis went first in 2010, it'll be Yes that kicks things off. I think they'll want to space out the classic rock MemberBerries, so they'll alternate a little there. Joan Baez would be a logical choice to follow, in that sense. After Joan, it'll be another classic rock. Journey or ELO? I think that Electric Light Orchestra would follow. After that, they'll sandwich in Nile Rodgers, using the one inductee in a category other than Performer as the middle induction. Then they'll follow it with 2Pac. Journey after that, and then Pearl Jam to close. Pearl Jam is the big draw this year; between the critics and the people, Pearl Jam has the highest combined cache, imho. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04/2/2017 @ 22:51pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 13:44pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 14:05pm |
Anyone who thinks Pearl Jam isn't going last is fooling themselves. Posted by Gass3268 on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 14:45pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 14:58pm |
I am going with the order I said. The Lenny Kravitz Prince tribute followed by Yes as the first inductee to play. Then followed by Joan Baez and the rest of the order. Pearl Jam is going last. I am not a huge fan of major 90s rock but Overall Pearl Jam would be considered the biggest draw like Nirvana in 2014. By the way I am NOT a Nirvana fan at all but thats the way the Hall works. I like Pearl Jam much more. Yes would be great but the Hall wont go by my personal taste. Posted by Ben on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 18:33pm |
I think to honor the recent passing of Chuck Berry, the jam finale should be "Roll Over Beethoven" which was also recorded by ELO, one of this year's inductees Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 04/3/2017 @ 23:00pm |
If there is a plan to surprise everybody and have Steve Perry actually sing with Journey, then that needs to be the final performance - because it will overshadow everything else in the followup news reports. Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 04/4/2017 @ 14:02pm |
Shrek, given that the powers-that-be at the Hall are most likely very begrudging in their attitude towards Journey, I think even if Steve Perry joined them onstage, it wouldn't change a darn thing. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 04/4/2017 @ 20:19pm |
Ah rats, my fingers couldn't keep up with the brain. That should read "Beethoven' is the only way that someone other than..." Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 04/4/2017 @ 20:21pm |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 09:08am |
Rock Hall Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 10:59am |
Philip - Don't conflate the biases of the nominating committee with the management of the Museum itself. Hall President Greg Harris is an avowed fan of Journey, and an advocate for the more populist mainstream inductions we have been seeing more of in recent years. Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 12:05pm |
So what does everyone think of the diversity at this year's Ceremony. I think this year's is a little more diverse. There is 3 Classic rock acts with Yes, ELO and Journey. There is a folk type singer with Joan Baez. That is the mellow choice this year. There is 90s grunge with Pearl Jam and there is Rap with Tupac Shakur. Also we have Nile Rogers there. So that covers A few genres. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 15:38pm |
The diversity of the class is a bit better than it was last year, and with the Joan Baez induction they manage to avoid the hugely bad optics of a second year in a row with no women inductees. But it's far from ideal. If they had gone ahead with inducting Chic in the musical excellence category instead of only taking Nile, they could have been adding two women of color and several more men of color into the Hall; all of whom are accomplished and deserving of such an honor. As it is, while this is an excellent class of inductees, it does continue to explode the percentage of white men in the Hall by inducting some large groups made up of them while inducting just a single woman and two stand alone men of color. Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 18:16pm |
Shrek, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 04/5/2017 @ 20:48pm |
http://www.wireimage.com/search/#events?q=2017%20rock%20roll%20hall%20fame&s=1 Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/7/2017 @ 20:45pm |
http://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/2017-rock-roll-hall-fame?phrase=2017%20rock%20roll%20hall%20fame&excludenudity=true&sort=best#license Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/7/2017 @ 20:46pm |
http://www.rollingstone.com/topic/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/7/2017 @ 21:45pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/rock-hall-2017-live Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/7/2017 @ 21:58pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUx3xtb28Xs Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04/8/2017 @ 04:31am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHvRRdo1RZk Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04/8/2017 @ 13:08pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 04/9/2017 @ 14:42pm |
My early predictions for later this year. Posted by Greg Flagg on Sunday, 04/9/2017 @ 18:02pm |
So the 2017 Rock Hall of Fame ceremony has taken place. The order of the ceremony did indeed make sense. None of us stopped to think that The ceremony would open with a Roll Over Beethoven Chuck Berry tribute by ELO that went directly into their induction. Joan Baez makes sense to follow and then of course Yes. So on and so forth. Posted by Ben on Monday, 04/10/2017 @ 09:12am |
Here are my picks for the 2018 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class Posted by Kyle on Tuesday, 04/11/2017 @ 07:29am |
I'm going with: Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 04/11/2017 @ 13:19pm |
My choices for the 2017 induction for the 2018 class... Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 04/12/2017 @ 00:14am |
Is it just me or did anyone else notice Jeff Ament's Rock Hall Snubs shirt features Tom Waits? Waits was inducted as a performer for the 2011 class which would be error on his part. Posted by Nick on Thursday, 04/13/2017 @ 22:32pm |
You're exactly right, Nick. I do see Tom Waits on his shirt (left side). I think for most people, even the famous, its easy to forget someone like Waits. What do I know. I don't know if Ament is the first to wear such shirt, but he gets several props from me and I guess of all the people who closely watch the RRHOF committee. Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 04/13/2017 @ 23:22pm |
My ~guess~ for the Class of 2018 is: Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 02:08am |
Peter Cetera said on twitter that the Song Hall would not induct him unless he attended/performed at their ceremony. Then he said that he suspected something when they weren't inducting him individually but as part of Chicago. Then he said sorry I don't do reunions. Very sad! Unlike the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, the Songwriters Hall Of Fame won't mail you your trophy. You either attend the ceremony, or you won't be inducted. So Peter Cetera is not being deferred for 2018. Will the Songwriters Hall of Fame nominate Peter Cetera again, next time for his entire career, with and without Chicago? That's unknown! Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 07:58am |
" target="_blank" title="http://songhall.org/images/sized/images/uploads/news/Inducteessm2-628x295.jpg[/img]">http://songhall.org/images/sized/images/uploads/news/Inducteessm2-628x295.jpg[/img] Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 08:03am |
The In Memoriam started with Leonard Cohen and ended with Prince. Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04/15/2017 @ 08:14am |
I am probably going to watch most of the Rock Hall ceremony on You Tube later this week. I did a sound check of Journey and Nile Rogers just to test the sound quality. Im leaving myself in suspense with ELO and Yes. I will watch it in the order it happened Live. I may have to split it into 2 parts for myself. Posted by Ben on Monday, 04/17/2017 @ 10:46am |
RIP J. Geils Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 04/18/2017 @ 14:14pm |
FRL REGULARS Posted by KING on Sunday, 05/7/2017 @ 20:56pm |
About the 2017 Inductees, KING wrote: Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05/7/2017 @ 21:32pm |
Tough call. The biggest snubs for me are Moody Blues, Kraftwerk, Janet Jackson, Nina Simone, and the entire genre of alternative. Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 05/7/2017 @ 22:40pm |
The snubs are always tough - and narrowing it down to just 5 is difficult. Janet Jackson, Moody Blues, The Cure, Kraftwerk, Eric B & Rakim are at the top of my list. Posted by Mike on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 02:16am |
Tough call, but I would say my top 5 snubs are Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 07:39am |
My current top 5 snubs: Posted by dmg on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 09:38am |
My top 5 snubs are: Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 12:26pm |
1. Chubby Checker Posted by Philip on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 15:02pm |
My top 5: Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 05/8/2017 @ 18:17pm |
My Top 5 Snubs: Posted by Greg F on Tuesday, 05/9/2017 @ 02:23am |
My Top 5 Snubs: Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 05/9/2017 @ 07:13am |
BEN Posted by KING on Tuesday, 05/9/2017 @ 14:28pm |
My Top 10 Would be Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 05/9/2017 @ 15:34pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 05/10/2017 @ 07:12am |
I had forgotten Pixies weren't in. I would add them to my biggest snubs list, along with Spinners. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 05/10/2017 @ 08:46am |
I am assuming RJD is Ronnie James Dio, who would be a great Award For Musical Excellence recipient. Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 05/10/2017 @ 08:57am |
Oh that is good thinking with that. RJD is most likely Ronnie James Dio. I just want to say thumbs up to Nicky Joe. I don't have Captain Beefheart in my Top 5 but I am strongly considering him as a prediction for my revised 2018 list of Nominees in August. King only suggested a Top 5. Here is a list of honorable mentions. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 05/10/2017 @ 16:52pm |
BEN Posted by KING on Thursday, 05/11/2017 @ 22:13pm |
BEN-You are right about J. Geils Band and maybe nomination again now J. Geils has passed. I can see the Nom Com ramrodding J.Geils through for an induction. It seems to be their Pet Project like PBB Band and everybody onstage can sing Centerfold or Freeze Frame. Maybe, the presenters can drop some paint from above. Make the stage a blue, red, green mess like the video. KING Posted by KING on Thursday, 05/11/2017 @ 22:21pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Friday, 05/12/2017 @ 08:34am |
It's interesting to see that Billy Squier birthday May 12th. He's in his 60's now and Don't Say No was a KING FAV. In the Dark, My Kinda Lover, She's A Runner, Rock Me Tonight are Classics. I think Billy Squier has Hall Of Fame talent but probably falls short of induction. What do you think? KING Posted by KING on Friday, 05/12/2017 @ 19:57pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Friday, 05/12/2017 @ 20:39pm |
Don't forget Lonely is the Night Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 05/12/2017 @ 21:21pm |
Here are my top 5 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs: Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 05/13/2017 @ 16:55pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 05/13/2017 @ 17:13pm |
ENIG Posted by KING on Saturday, 05/13/2017 @ 17:17pm |
Hey Ben, can you show me your revised inductees/nominees please? Posted by Nicky Joe on Sunday, 05/14/2017 @ 17:22pm |
King's 20 Nominees RRHOF 2017. Posted by KING on Sunday, 05/14/2017 @ 18:39pm |
Nicky Joe, Posted by Ben on Monday, 05/15/2017 @ 10:35am |
Okay then, thank you for showing me your choices. I was just extremely curious to see your revised list. Posted by Nicky Joe on Monday, 05/15/2017 @ 11:31am |
BEN Posted by KING on Monday, 05/15/2017 @ 12:17pm |
Nicky Joe, Posted by Ben on Monday, 05/15/2017 @ 12:30pm |
Nicky Joe, Posted by Ben on Monday, 05/15/2017 @ 16:18pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 05/22/2017 @ 09:58am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdemFi-zJw Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/22/2017 @ 12:37pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwY6UsjUL68 Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/22/2017 @ 12:38pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 05/23/2017 @ 12:36pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 05/23/2017 @ 15:41pm |
I would say that 3 strong possibilities for the 2018 Rock Hall class are the J. Geils Band, the Moody Blues and Soundgarden. That is a bit of variety right there. I don't like to predict inductees this much in advance but I would say Geils Band, the Moodys,Soundgarden, The Cure and Devo may all be nominated. I think a bunch of you agree. I will be in my hiatus soon. The Rock Hall seems to be getting better again. The 2017 class was the best one in years. 2016 was really good last year and 2017 was even better with a few Classic rock names along with Pearl Jam and Tupac Shakur. Also a folk act went in as we know. Posted by Ben on Thursday, 05/25/2017 @ 13:06pm |
KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 06/2/2017 @ 08:28am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Friday, 06/2/2017 @ 21:17pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 06/4/2017 @ 06:47am |
BEN Posted by KING on Sunday, 06/4/2017 @ 22:19pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 06/4/2017 @ 22:53pm |
KING, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 06/10/2017 @ 09:15am |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 06/10/2017 @ 18:18pm |
https://www.songhall.org/ceremony/2017_annual_induction_and_awards_ceremony Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06/11/2017 @ 06:32am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 06/11/2017 @ 10:25am |
https://www.songhall.org/news/view/annual_gala_presenters_and_performers_anounced Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06/11/2017 @ 17:51pm |
01. Ben E. King Posted by Roy on Monday, 06/12/2017 @ 23:03pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 06/13/2017 @ 10:34am |
BEN Posted by KING on Wednesday, 06/14/2017 @ 00:02am |
Presenters for the 2017 Songwriters Hall of Fame inductees Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06/17/2017 @ 06:19am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu-LF3c7RI8 Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06/17/2017 @ 07:09am |
http://www.cshf.ca/canadian-songwriters-hall-fame-2017-inductees/ Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06/17/2017 @ 19:09pm |
Although, it may bee too early to speculate, I think that: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 07/9/2017 @ 12:08pm |
Although, it may still be too early to speculate, I think that: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 07/23/2017 @ 04:20am |
Posted by EDS on Sunday, 07/23/2017 @ 17:44pm |
This should've been it: Posted by Michael on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 18:14pm |
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