Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame
The 2014 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees
The 2014 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees were officially announced at midnight on Wednesday, October 16th, although they were released a few hours early by Rolling Stone.
- Nirvana
- Chic
- Deep Purple
- Kiss
- Hall & Oates
- The Replacements
- Peter Gabriel
- LL Cool J
- Link Wray
- The Meters
- N.W.A
- The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
- The Zombies
- Cat Stevens
- Yes
- Linda Ronstadt
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379 comments so far (post your own)another strong nominees, my top five would be Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 21:48pm |
What a great ballot. It really covers all grounds and gets some seriously overdue artists on the ballot. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 21:49pm |
hopefully they would induct 7, my other two would be LL Cool J and Cat Stevens Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 21:52pm |
Nirvana Posted by Jake on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 21:52pm |
They got 16 nominees this year, not 15. Will we see 8 inductees? Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 21:54pm |
http://m.rollingstone.com/music/news/vote-for-the-2014-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-20131016 Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:00pm |
After years of advocating for several of these artists, our collective work is finally being paid off. While I agree with Donnie that Paul Butterfield is not someone on this ballot I would yet consider; the rest are all Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project inductees that should all be inducted at once. However, I assume only 7 will be inducted. Here then is whom I infer will be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2014. Mind you this is only amongst performers. Posted by Lax30 on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:02pm |
Tough one. This is really great than last year's ballot. My picks: Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:02pm |
No Motown! Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:08pm |
For me, the biggest surprise is the nomination of Peter Gabriel. Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:10pm |
No Chance: Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:11pm |
For me, the biggest surprise is the nomination of Peter Gabriel. Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:13pm |
Lax 30 -- happy for you to finally see Peter Gabriel on the list! Your certainty paid off. Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:16pm |
I did not totally see that. Thanks akeem. It seems that Chic and Linda Ronstadt are the only female nominees on the ballot. Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:17pm |
I did not totally see that. Thanks akeem. It seems that Chic and Linda Ronstadt are the only female nominees on the ballot. Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:17pm |
Lax 30 -- happy for you to finally see Peter Gabriel on the list! Your certainty paid off. - FRL Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:22pm |
So far, the top 5 in the fan ballot on Rolling Stone right now is Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:22pm |
Looking it over, I think The Zombies are probably the true third lock at this point (with N.W.A. not far behind)...Rondstadt, Gabriel and Stevens would all be guaranteed a place if they were the only ones in the singer-songwriter category. (Rondstadt's more in line with Donna Summer, but I think she'll garner the votes in a similar manner) Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:23pm |
The one thing that troubles me about this ballot is that there is only two nominees with female members (Linda Ronstadt and Chic) and 4 nominees with non-white members (N.W.A., LL Cool J, the Meters, and Chic). I definitely think that Cat Stevens and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band could've been taken out for a female/black R&B artist like Chaka Khan, Janet Jackson, the Marvelettes, or Whitney Houston, and another male R&B group/artist like Bill Withers, Barry White, the Commodores, War, or the Spinners. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:27pm |
What does it really matter Donnie? None of those acts really would have been viable given who else is on this ballot. That's why The Replacements nomination is essentially meaningless to me. They can't get in this year against those other names. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:31pm |
Always the Eeyore, I immediately focused in on the negatives when I first saw the ballot, but trying to do the pick five I realize how awesomely deep this ballot really is. Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:34pm |
My bets on the final inductees Posted by NWA on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 22:56pm |
no motown, only one female (imo,Chic is popular because of Niles Rodgers) it's really bothering but a very strong list. Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:00pm |
The way I'm looking at who gets inducted is something like this. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:00pm |
Great ballot, Wow! Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:02pm |
Nominees By Position In Our Rock Rankings: Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:12pm |
That's a pretty good point Casper, unless Whitney or Janet had made the ballot. Then I think it would've been more difficult for voters to decide. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:13pm |
For the second year in a row, I am very pleased, overall, with the ballot. Still a bit surprised there is no Stevie Ray Vaughan, though. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:14pm |
My picks would be: Posted by DC on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:15pm |
I think a lot of the anti-Ronstadt comments here stem from rockist, male-oriented opinions of what belongs and what doesn't. One of the greatest female rock singers of all-time certainly belongs. Posted by DC on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:18pm |
Nirvana Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:28pm |
Deep Purple.are you kidding me we know they earned it.same with Kiss,NWA. Hall and Oates and Yes Posted by Ryan Springer on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:30pm |
chris has to be our prediction champion this year. His list of 15 names nailed TEN of them! Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:32pm |
As the picture (RS site) says for Nirvana, only 3 will be recognized. I wonder how many for Yes if ever they get in. Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:36pm |
You're sure, Akeem? I know the Temptations have got in as a group of five but they inducted six (four original and two replacements). Same can happen for Nirvana but in this case, five members could get in (Kurt, Krist, Dave, Chad and Pat). Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:42pm |
The induction of Yes would include: Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:43pm |
Scratch that, Pat Smear was a "touring" member. Chad Channing could still get in though. Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:43pm |
As the picture (RS site) says for Nirvana, only 3 will be recognized. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:45pm |
I dont think pat would be included as he's just a touring member, a sideman would do but he can wait. As for chad's case, although he made an album with them but he left the band early before nirvana made it big. Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:54pm |
Pat Smear was never a member of Nirvana, just a touring hand. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:56pm |
http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/ Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/15/2013 @ 23:58pm |
Pat Smear was never a member of Nirvana, just a touring hand. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:07am |
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The nominees page is up on the Rock Hall site. I can't put the link here. It's telling me it's spam. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:15am |
Roy, Dave Grohl could probably care less, so it would be up to whether or not Krist felt Chad should be inducted with them. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:15am |
Looks like The Replacements have taken over in the fan poll for the fourth spot, with Yes at the 5th spot and Peter Gabriel right on their trail. KISS, Deep Purple, and Nirvana are still dominating the top 3 spots, and Nirvana is dominating the No. 1 spot. I was thinking that Deep Purple and KISS would nab the top two spots on the poll, but it looks like Nirvana will clearly win the fan poll. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:25am |
I'm hoping the RNRHOF will do a video of the nominations like last year's as it was really good I thought. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:25am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPNMp5_vhd0 Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:32am |
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5755745/nirvana-linda-ronstadt-kiss-among-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominations Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:39am |
DC-The anti-Ronstadt comments are based on the fact that she was a cover's artist who did nothing creative, took no risks at all, broke no boundaries and had a toothless, safe career that epitomized everything that was wrong with the 70s music scene. I just think it's a massive insult to artists that did take risks, did go against the grain, and did contribute creatively to their own success. There is a reason why Ronstadt has zero relevance today. And there are strong reasons she has never been nominated before. And to me it made all the whining from fans and cronies very suspect. For example, a band like Chicago is much more deserving of consideration. If anything, the only thing that gets Ronstadt consideration at all is the women in rock angle, although she was not even close to the first female rock superstar. (Joplin). Joan Jett would have been a better choice. But that angle will probably be enough, sadly, to get her in. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:41am |
I honestly think that Link Wray will have a better shot with the actual voters than a lot of people seem to be anticipating. I'd also pick Peter Gabriel as the closest thing to a lock other than Nirvana. Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:58am |
"at least they nominated a prog act" Posted by DC on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 00:59am |
DC-The R&RHF has a history of ignoring entire subgenres of rock and roll, as well as entire decades. It's antipathy towards prog acts is notorious. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 01:06am |
The induction of Yes would include: Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 01:17am |
Yeah, the video for the nominees was pretty terrible. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 01:33am |
RE: Linda Ronstadt Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 01:40am |
Overall, I thought that it was a very disappointing list. There were however a few bright spots: Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 02:26am |
I don't know about everyone else, but I'd say that Link Wray was the left field pick for this year. Didn't see him coming at all. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 02:27am |
Deep Purple, Link Wray and the Zombies!! Yeahhhhh baby!! Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 02:32am |
Ranking the nominees in order of my favorites... Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 02:34am |
It's funny that Ronstadt was supposedly such a big commercial artist in the 70s, yet in her entire career she only had one song hit the US number 1 spot, which of course she did not write. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 03:25am |
IMO, after Nirvana, I think there won't be any first year eligible nominee/s for the next two or three years. They can wait for another round. Nirvana was very huge that other first year eligibles cannot really attain the impact nirvana made. Eventhough nirvana didnt start grunge or alternative rock, still they made that huge impact especially in the 90s. And the current list it shows a lot of artists that were first time nominated but long overdue. It just shows that the committee is really considering other long due artists. Posted by akeem on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 04:05am |
There's some pretty big names becoming eligible over the next two years in Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, Alice in Chains, and a Tribe Called Quest. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 04:23am |
I forgot wenner mentioned green day as possible candidate but imo they kinda a copy of The Cure. If brittany would read this she would go ballistic. Posted by akeem on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 05:33am |
It is an interesting year to say the least. It seems a bit like here are a bunch of snubs and one new act. I don't think there is a candidate that lacks the credentials to get in, which is saying something for a nominee ballot. Although there is a lack of R&B again, but Hip Hop has more to do with that than anything else. Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 07:30am |
http://rockhall.com/pressroom/announcements/rock-an-roll-hall-of-fame-2014-nominees/ Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 07:49am |
I really can't complain with this list. Tons of great artists to choose from...I don't think I will be disappointed regardless of who gets inducted. Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 08:12am |
Here is my prediction for the Class of 2014 based on the 16 nominees. Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 08:36am |
http://www.today.com/video/today/53294799/#53294799 Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 09:24am |
Will there be 7 or 8 inductees? It better be 8 since there are 16 nominees. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 09:27am |
Chris F-For someone who was supposedly so "iconic", she left a very meager legacy. That's what happens when you have a bland, uncreative, riskless, non-challenging, non-threatening career. For all the talk about "back then", she is irrelevant now. Just a conventional singer. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 09:41am |
My rundown of the nominees: Posted by danny on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 09:45am |
http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/nirvana-linda-ronstadt-ll-cool-j-among-rock-roll-hall-8C11400900 Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 09:52am |
http://todayentertainment.today.com/_news/2013/10/16/20988598-nirvana-linda-ronstadt-ll-cool-j-among-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees?d=1 Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 10:00am |
After last year's debacle of Public Enemy and Randy Newman getting inducted over Deep Purple and Procol Harum, I hope the committee can get its head out of its asses, and do something constructive for a change. Posted by danny on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 10:00am |
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1715663/nirvana-rock-roll-hall-fame-nominations.jhtml Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 10:12am |
Gentlemen, this is the kind of ballot dreams are made of. Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 10:30am |
How 'bout That LINK WRAY! Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 11:02am |
If Voting Seniority... Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 11:25am |
Chris F., responding to this quote in your writeup about Linda Rondstat: 'Writing isn't the end all be all of creating music, the overall sound of the record is the most important. In that regard Ronstadt made lasting records that were very popular in her time. She is a glaring omission at the Hall, and her first nomination is well deserved. If guitarists get in for being skilled, why wouldn't a technically gifted vocalist be given the same credit?' Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 11:36am |
Paul in KY, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 11:54am |
If Voting for Most Recent Acts... Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 11:54am |
Link Wray is too popular. He is not getting an early influence induction. Linda Ronstadt is not getting a lifetime achievement induction. They will both get in in the main performers category no matter how long it takes. It won't take long. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:01pm |
Roy, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:10pm |
Chris F.-You do hit on a salient point when you compare Ronstadt to the Carpenters. The point is that people still listen to the Carpenters and they still have a place in popular culture. The song choices were better and Karen's voice was truly that distinctive. If we are being honest Ronstadt did not make lasting records, which is why no one listens anymore. She was popular in her time by being as bland as possible. That's about it. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:11pm |
Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:18pm |
Astrodog, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:29pm |
Wooooah that's a surprisingly good ballot! Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 12:57pm |
5 acts from last year's ballot are back on the ballot this year! Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 13:14pm |
Top five for me, although the Hall's relationship with Kiss has been sketchy. Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 13:18pm |
Thank you for your response, Chris. To me the difference is that for about a year 1/2 after The Beatles broke up, Three Dog Night were the biggest pop act on the planet. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 13:57pm |
Stevie Ray Vaughan is the new Deep Purple. Posted by Mosey A.Long on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:14pm |
Still no Janet Jackson on the ballot. Wow! Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:20pm |
No Classic R&B artists. I KNEW that, once the R&B Hall of Fame came into being,that the RRHOF would use it as an EXCUSE NOT to nominate of induct classic R&B artists. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:24pm |
Paul, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:28pm |
Chic is a disco band. Disco is related to classic R&B. Janet Jackson and Stevie Ray may be a bit to contemporary for right now. Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:45pm |
I think my feelgood class would be The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Peter Gabriel, Nirvana, NWA, the Replacements and Link Wray. I'd also be happy if the Zombies, Deep Purple, the Meters or Chic were inducted. All deserving. Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 14:49pm |
My notion is that Stevie Ray's hold up is that they realized what a backlog of previous guitar pioneers and heroes they had. At first it seemed that they were just filling in some blues gaps, but Link Wray's induction makes me think that they might be going broader than that (Dick Dale next year?). I am an SRV fan, but if this is what they're doing I completely understand. Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 15:12pm |
So at the induction ceremony, who do you reckon is most likely to twerk? My moneys on John Oates tbh. Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 15:16pm |
First, I have to say that this is a VERY decent list of nominees. I agree that the 2013 induction was very pivotal as far as the future of other DESERVING artists for possible induction. But make no mistake: there's NO doubt that part of the reason is the FACT that the Hall has faced credibility issues, particularly over the last seven years to my thinking. That said, to the Hall's credit, at least it seems they're trying to rectify some of those issues. P.R. reasons, you might say? Perhaps. Even so, as the old adage goes, it's better late than never! Anyway, my picks are as follows: Posted by V.F.T. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 16:32pm |
Ronstadt was popular at the time but she wasn't that popular. She had hits with songs like Heatwave. Carol King with one album outsold her for the entire decade. After Grease Olvia Newton John was much more pronounced in popular culture. Realizing how weak her resume is her fans will tend to exaggerate this factor. She cannot even compare to Whitney Houston. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 17:00pm |
To astrodog Posted by daftjustice on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 18:06pm |
Im sorry but ronstadt is a one hit wonder (blue bayou) unlike the carpenters and olivia newton john. Posted by chupacabras on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 18:33pm |
Blue Bayou isn't consider her biggest hit...so clearly you know nothing about her music or her genre. Posted by daftjustice on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 18:49pm |
Really good list. Something for everyone here. How I think it'll go with the inductions: Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 19:17pm |
Really good list. Something for everyone here. How I think it'll go with the inductions: Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 19:17pm |
Public Enemy getting inducted last year was an deserved automatic first year inducted. Posted by danny on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 19:38pm |
Before I write my commentary, I just want to advise everyone: DON'T waste your time voting for Nirvana on the Fan Ballot. They're going to get in anyway. Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 19:47pm |
@daftjustice-Where do you get those numbers? 100 million? Considering none of her albums went over 3xs platinum (Simple Dreams certified in 1990) that's a bit far fetched. Fleetwood Mac's 1975 album was 5xs platinum. Rumours (1977) was 19xs platinum. That is an actual example of the type of mass popularity that overcomes all objections. Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 20:20pm |
ronstadt was nominated because of Eagles and i don't want to consider her illness (so sorry to say) as one of the factors why she's nominated. and also the asians sing "blue bayou" in karaoke because it's the only song from ronstadt they know. Posted by chupacabras on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 20:20pm |
I actually wouldn't mind a Carpenters induction... Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 20:32pm |
i think the carpenters nomination will be when rihanna, katy perry, lady gaga, justin bieber will be eligible since the committee would realize that pop mostly dominated that era. lol. i think rock and roll is dying in this era. but it's good to know that the carpenters were really competing (in terms of music charts) with the likes of led zeppelin, john lennon and all other artists that are big in 70s. Posted by chupacabras on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 20:37pm |
What I find shameful is the lack of Jackie Brenston, Big Mama Thornton, and Chubby Checker. Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:04pm |
One more free opinion that is worth every dime you paid for it: Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:08pm |
Nirvana is a shoe-in Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:08pm |
@Joe: don't forget that they always induct at least one classic rock musician. Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:10pm |
Also missing are The Monkees, The Big Bopper, and The Belmonts. Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:11pm |
astrodog is a troll through and through Posted by daftjustice on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:50pm |
oh and I wanted to add that Linda Ronstadt had 2 albums nominated for album of the year at the Grammys. Ok Im done. Posted by daftjustice on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 22:00pm |
Astrodog, although I am not prone to continue a trend that fellow posters are involved with: the fact of the matter remains. There are now 5 virtual locks for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be inducted by December. Posted by Lax30 on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 22:24pm |
@daftjustice-The point here is to express opinions. Ronstadt's fans are the most defensive and get themselves into a tizzy very easily and are therefore fun to argue with. But that aside, I just find something unseemly about the way her nomination has been pushed at the expense of other far more deserving artists. The most vocal whiners have been Ronstadt fans and yet they have never come close to explaining why she deserves a nomination. Having an honest opinion is not trolling. On the other hand, exaggerating an artist's accomplishments to compensate for a truly bland career is closer to the mark. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 03:30am |
My ranking (first time, so if I'm missing anything, please feel free to tell me): Posted by SotN on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 05:18am |
Don't get the people saying N.W.A. are undeserving, they're probably among the most important rap acts of the 80's behind Public Enemy and Run D.M.C. Certainly more so than LL Cool J. Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 06:41am |
Deep Purple's first three albums were released between 1968-1969. Nick Simper was the bassist on all three albums. He is not mentioned in the bio intro for Deep Purple on the Rock Hall site. I hope this does not mean he is not being considered for induction. He was interviewed for the Deep Purple Behind the Music episode. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 09:03am |
Yes Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 09:14am |
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/the-2014-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-slideshow/the-2014-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-photo-1381922242959.html Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 09:21am |
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/nirvana-leads-nominees-hall-fame-article-1.1486891 Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 09:23am |
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2014.html Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 11:19am |
How can you do this percentual? How can Nirvana get 84% and Deep Purple 65%? Posted by Domingo on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 12:30pm |
my inductee predictions: Posted by chris on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 12:43pm |
My personal five would be: Posted by Taylor on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 12:55pm |
"How can you do this percentual? How can Nirvana get 84% and Deep Purple 65%?" Posted by FRL on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 13:32pm |
astrodog, Posted by daftjustice on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 16:44pm |
And may I add: Posted by daftjustice on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 16:52pm |
It's always fun to see people who don't know what the word means calling other people trolls. Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 17:04pm |
also having listened to both, Heart Like A Wheel's got NOTHIN' on Close To You. Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 17:16pm |
@daftjustice-Oh look. An very angry Linda Ronstadt. Such a bitter fanbase. Probably due to extreme loneliness and mockery from friends. Hang in there. The world has essentially forgotten about her, but her day will come. Right about the time of the second coming I suspect. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 17:53pm |
Here are my picks: Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 20:23pm |
Who I wanted inducted next year: Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 20:45pm |
You know, I just realize that the 2014 ballot is the the same as 2010's. Here's some points on why it's similar: Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 22:04pm |
I also forgot that LL Cool J was nominated for the first time (the last time he was nominated was in 2011). Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 22:12pm |
Tremendous article (and fun comments as well): Posted by Casper on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 03:51am |
I like the Replacements but I also like X and Tuxedomoon and Gun Club. Doesn't mean I think they deserves to be nominated. Once they start peddling vague notions like "influence" or "excellence" too glibly it very easily degenerates into personal favoritism. Posted by astrodog on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 05:24am |
Overall, I thought that it was a very disappointing list. There were however a few bright spots: Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 06:36am |
Astrodog, Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 08:42am |
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Who Will Vote For The Zombies Posted by Roy on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 09:40am |
Roy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 10:00am |
Roy, that may be the most ridiculous post I have seen from you. Posted by dezmond on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 10:39am |
Yeah Enig, I see how a new wave act would open the doors for Chic, a disco act. Posted by GFW on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 12:43pm |
In terms of predictions, I think that Nirvana is obviously a 100% lock, N.W.A. is very likely, the stars seem to have aligned for Chic with basically no genre-adjacent competition, and Linda Ronstadt seems highly likely mostly because of her gender. Posted by BSLO on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 13:00pm |
Chris F.-Album sales are always a very tricky business. It remains a matter of guess work. No one source works and all are vastly imprecise. You knew that before you posted. For example, do you honestly think it is the slightest bit credible that that The Carpenters sold only four million albums since the 1970s and 20 million before? Of course Ronstadt did continue working after that while the Carpenters could not Posted by astrodog on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 13:00pm |
Astrodog, Posted by Chris F, on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 13:42pm |
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/10/17/keep-cat-stevens-out-of-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/?singlepage=true Posted by danny on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 13:44pm |
danny, Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 14:36pm |
Chris F.-The Replacements are not going to be inducted and do not deserve to be. They were not the Velvet Underground. They were not much different than a dozen other bands from that era. Posted by astrodog on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 15:10pm |
"The Replacements are deserving at some point, but their nomination at this point seem out of place with other more important alternative bands not yet inducted. Inducting them would be like inducting Jethro Tull before any other prog-rock bands." - BSLO Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 15:46pm |
Astrodog, Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 15:56pm |
Diana Ross had SIX #1s after leaving the Supremes. One of which, "Upside Down" was written by Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards of the oft-nominated Chic. Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 17:37pm |
I need to point out that Madonna has the most sales for a solo female in the Hall. I meant to add it in, but just realized I did not! Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 21:14pm |
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Who Will Vote For N.W.A and LL Cool J Posted by Roy on Friday, 10/18/2013 @ 23:41pm |
Thanks Chris F. for your intelligent posts regarding Linda Ronstadt and your attempts to counter the attacks on her by astrodog. I cold never articulate my thoughts the way you have with such skill and grace. Those comments obviously come from someone who is obsessed with a dislike/hate for Ronstadt and personally I would not waste my energy trying to negotiate because it would be impossible. I commend you, however. I wonder if Astrodog has actually ever attended a Linda Ronstadt performance. I strongly doubt it. I have. I have also attended performances by many of tha artists he compares her to. Diana Ross, Carol King, Whitney Houston etc. Ronstadt's voice was better than all. Better by far than most. Every bit in the league of Houston and there are moments when she soars beyond what even Whitney could do. All due respect to Whitney, God rest her soul. And Ronstadt could never approach the showmanship Whitney could achieve. But the voice. Ahh, never heard one better than Ronstadt. In 1995 I saw her at Radio City Music Hall. There were moments when it seemed as though the power of her voice would blow the roof off. You are right. Her Voice is in a league of its own and probably its full impact was never actually achieved on a recording. Personally, I still listen to and sing along to much of her catalogue. Her radio hits were probably some of my least favorites songs but those albums are filled with lasting gems that never get old for me. Songs like Long, Long Time, Different Drum, I Never Will Marry, Poor Poor Pitiful, Dolphins, Faithless Love, Dark End Of The Street, Love Has No Pride, Desperado, Hobo, Up To My Neck In High Muddy Water, The Long Way Around, Louise, Rambln Round, Birds, Hey Mister That's Me Up On The Jukebox, Prisoner in Disguise, Many Rivers To Cross, You Tell Me That I'm Falling Down, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, Alison, Talk To Me Of Mendocino and so many others. I could go on and on. The majority of these songs were never on Top 40 radio and most of the general public probably never heard them. But the millions Ronstadt fans who owned and listened to her work know them and probably still listen to them from time to time. To say her renditions lack creativity. Whatever. I don't know what that means. I listen, I am moved, I love them. Apparently I am not alone. Last I checked she had about 40,000 votes on the induction poll. I have waited a long time for this nomination. I have no doubt it is deserving. At least a few other people agree with us. Thanks again, Chris. Posted by Richie on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 00:13am |
Chris F.-How am I twisting her career? Did she have a series of major hits? No. Did she write her own music or have the talent to do so? No. Did she have so much commercial success that it overrides other objections? No. In fact your own numbers showed that The Carpenters, whose main albums were from the first half of the decade, outsold her in the 1970s when Ronstadt was supposedly such a major star. And artists like Whitney Houston and Celine Dion (sadly) outsold her by an order of magnitude. Dion appears to have sold 10xs as many albums. And that damn song is etched painfully in our cultural memory. Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 00:59am |
Oh yeah Chris F, One other thing. You will never get the last word. Posted by Richie on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 06:14am |
Cat Stevens has connections to both Peter Gabriel and Yes. Peter Gabriel played flute on Cat Stevens' song "Katmandu" from the album "Mona Bone Jakon." Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 12:07pm |
@Richie-I'm just being honest. I don't think she qualifies and I'm not alone. Her deficiencies are substantial and her defenders always respond with nonsense because they have so little else. Her Greatest Hits album is primarily songs that already charted for other artists. Heck, even Different Drum was on the Monkees TV show before the Stone Poneys recorded it. And that is my last word on the subject. Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 13:56pm |
Roy, all the members of U2 will likely vote for Chic. They're all into dance music and Bono even attended a Chic show a few months back. Posted by Casper on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 14:08pm |
Linda Ronstadt will get the sympathy vote, because of her Parkinson's disease announcement. It took until Donna Summer was six feet under for her to finally get inducted. Sometimes it takes bad events to turn the committee's heads a bit in their directions. Posted by danny on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 14:31pm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OdnQEQhDzUc Posted by danny on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 14:35pm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OdnQEQhDzUc Posted by danny on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 14:35pm |
Email I sent to Greg Harris and Robert Hilburn: Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 21:53pm |
2014 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 22:56pm |
Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 23:04pm |
The 2014 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 23:18pm |
The 2014 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 23:27pm |
I agree, Darin, they gave us a great class this year; not perfect by any means, but enough to make me respect the Rock Hall a little more. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario that doesn't leave me satisfied overall. Posted by Idlewild on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 01:05am |
Honestly, I'd rather see Paul Butterfield Blues Band get in than Kiss, but that's really more about me loving one and loathing the other. Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 02:57am |
Honestly, I'd rather see Paul Butterfield Blues Band get in than Kiss, but that's really more about me loving one and loathing the other. Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 03:22am |
#32 - Posted 10/17/13 @9:57AM by Enigmaticus [contact] Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 06:19am |
Honestly, much like last year, there aren't any groups on the ballot that made me jump and shout "ALL RIGHT!", but I recognize that a lot of them are very worthy. I like a lot of the acts here, but I don't outright love them. Most of the groups I really love have already been inducted. Looking at the past nominees and the previously considered, the names that from a personal taste standpoint I really want to see get in are the Spinners, Lesley Gore, Chubby Checker, Stevie Ray Vaughan, the Turtles, and a few others. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 11:24am |
I am going to speculate that the following acts will be inducted next year: Nirvana, Yes, Deep Purple, Peter Gabriel, Linda Ronstadt, Hall & Oates, N.W.A. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 15:05pm |
Alternates for 2015 nominees Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 15:52pm |
Speaking of which, where are The Steve Miller Band and Boz Scaggs? Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 17:13pm |
Astrodog, Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 19:39pm |
Chris F-I already said I had my "last word" on the subject so in main you have yours. (Incidentally her highest charting album in the UK was No. 15 and she never broke the top 30 again; never really sold in the UK.) I can argue this forever and I have to the point of tedium, as her page attests. Nothing new under the sun, just the usual spin (writing vs. non-writing, originality vs. lack of originality, risk vs. conservative, etc.-although the Elvis analogy fails miserably no matter how you spin it). She had a safe, uncreative career singing older songs and the strategy sold albums while leaving a faint legacy. (e.g., Your No Good-charted 1963; When Will I Be Love-charted 1960; Heatwave-charted 1963; Blue Bayou-charted 1961; Ooo Baby Baby-charted 1965). She was a purely commercial artist singing the safest music imaginable. But I guess her legacy really is the point regarding why her fans have whined so loudly and spun so furiously. (Nesmith's folksy Different Drum is now a country rock song-nice song though). Her fans recognize how badly her star has faded and so they think that being inducted in the R&RHF will make her part of some musical canon. If it happens it won't. A safe, uninspiring, riskless career remains exactly that. That's the real lesson. A good singer but in all other respects a mediocrity. Like I said, time has not been kind. Nor should it be. Posted by astrodog on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 20:23pm |
I think there will be 7 inductees this year for some reason (due in large part the 16 nominees this year); here my predictions: Posted by Nick on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 20:36pm |
At last, I shall offer some comments on this year's nominees: Posted by Zach on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 23:23pm |
Since peter gabriel is already in with genesis, I wonder if he will vote for himself to get into the hall of fame. Did clapton vote for himself twice? Posted by dezmond on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 07:11am |
Since peter gabriel is already in with genesis, I wonder if he will vote for himself to get into the hall of fame. Did clapton vote for himself twice? Posted by dezmond on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 07:12am |
astrodog, Posted by daftjustice on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 07:29am |
I meant to say Posted by daftjustice on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 07:34am |
Now let's re-examine 2016, shall we: Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 09:58am |
@daftjustice-Lame insults again? Nice to see how far I got under your skin. Stop whining like a baby. I keep saying I'm moving on and apparently I was so effectively honest that you guys keep coming back. (Hint: Don't address me in a post I won't respond). Defensive bunch, but that's understandable. If an artist is a reflection of her fans, then in reference to you, your hero is even more mediocre than I dared imagine. And your reading comprehension skills have not improved. With that said, notice that I was respectful to other posters on this subject. Posted by astrodog on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 11:44am |
Daftjustice confirmed for being a projecting neckbeard. Posted by GFW on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 11:52am |
"Now let's re-examine 2016, shall we:"--Enig Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/21/2013 @ 18:42pm |
Zach, thank you for that wonderful comment that you posted. I just wanted to say that I have started working at a record store. This week will be my last working there. I got introducted to Cab Calloway through watching the 1980 film "The Blues Brothers". Posted by Andrew on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 00:41am |
astrodog Posted by daftjustice on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 03:43am |
astrodog Posted by daftjustice on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 03:52am |
astrodog Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 06:40am |
Astrodog, keep callin em like you see them. I too think Ms. Rondstat's nomination is premature (maybe in the year 2035 or thereabouts would be a good time to consider her work). Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 07:35am |
2014 ROCK HALL POLL RESULTS SO FAR Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 11:12am |
@daftjustice-Do you have a medical condition we need to know about? You keep posting drivel twice. It's as if the sheer degree of pure idiocy cannot be contained in a single post. Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 13:24pm |
Yes, I will admit that I have an ulterior motive. I would like to see most of the artists on this old webpage of mine: Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 07:00am |
I think at least 7 inductees are going to go in for 2014 Posted by chris on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 12:52pm |
I think the Meters and Kiss will get passed over again. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 14:36pm |
16 nominees this year, all big names, so they should induct half of them. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 14:53pm |
The 2014 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 14:59pm |
Roy, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 15:00pm |
I also disagree with writer Robert Hillburn's assertion that there should only be five inductees. There were six in 2013 so personally I wouldn't have a problem with seven for 2014. Great comments everybody pro AND con! Posted by V.F.T. on Wednesday, 10/23/2013 @ 16:36pm |
In order of importance: Posted by Kekman Jones :^) on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 08:37am |
My preferred order of preference and importance amongst this year's nominees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 09:47am |
My order of preference amongst this year's inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 09:56am |
the zombies could be this year's dave clark five or hollies induction with stevie van Zandt pulling for their candidacy Posted by chris on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 12:03pm |
Here is how I would rank the nominees from the order of preferences: Posted by Lax30 on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 22:21pm |
I am so sorry, I had meant nominees, not inductees. I would have no heartache with my top 6 being inducted, however. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 22:26pm |
I am so sorry, I had meant nominees, not inductees. I would have no heartache with my top 6 being inducted, however. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 22:32pm |
If we're going to rank nominees based solely on personal enjoyment, mine would look like: Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 22:44pm |
My personal rankings from best to worse: Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 10/24/2013 @ 23:35pm |
I am from a different generation. So, my musical tastes are going to be quite different from many other individuals. Although I am not religious, the closest thing to a religion for me, is "progressive rock." Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 00:19am |
Ronstadt has been all over the map in terms of styles. For those who may be unaware of her when she performed Rock and Roll here are a few youtube cuts: Posted by Richie on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 00:41am |
My order of preference amongst this year's inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 01:01am |
My personal like/don't like as much list would be: Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 07:36am |
My attempt to rank them by overall importance: Posted by Casper on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 17:42pm |
2012: The Small Faces/Faces Posted by Casper on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 17:51pm |
Casper - Posted by D on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 18:24pm |
Well pointed out Casper. We'll see what patterns continue. Posted by Sam on Friday, 10/25/2013 @ 18:39pm |
Another one you could add is guitar gods: Posted by rockstar23 on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 05:49am |
I ranked the nominees by attempted merits on my blog *shameless plug* rockhallmonitors.blogspot.com Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 18:02pm |
Philip - Good read as always. I'm more in line with your fiance on Kiss and Ronstadt and I think a lot of people on this site in particular have been short selling the influence and importance of the Paul Butterfield Blues Band (your comments about them were respectful, though), but otherwise I largely agree with your rankings. Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 18:56pm |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 22:12pm |
Yeah, that was some pretty good analysis as always. I do think you missed a few key points in your "Intangibles" section for certain artists though. One for Chic is Nile Rodgers' ubiquity this year with Daft Punk's smash "Get Lucky" which no doubt brought him not only more exposure but perhaps a deeper level of respect and a refresher of his talents in the industry. You mentioned the Zombies being a '60s act to their advantage, I think the same goes for Cat Stevens being a singer-songwriter. Most who have been nominated are eventually inducted. Two big ones for Ronstadt,is that she's the only female act on the ballot (I guess you touched on this with her influence section) as well as the announcement of her Parkinson's which brings some urgency to inducting her. Posted by rockstar23 on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 22:17pm |
Enig -- it's not really such a coincidence that the current poll leaders are all, as you put it, Rush-connected: Rush was among the highest supported acts by the general populace and as the FRL and the Rock Hall fan ballot polls show, the bands that John Q. Public support the most heavily for induction tend to fall within a pretty (for want of a better term) finite range of the rock spectrum. The acts that get the highest fan approval are usually the ones you are likely to hear on classic rock radio stations, be it Rush, Kiss, Peter Gabriel or Deep Purple. The only reason Nirvana does not fall within this range is simply because they debuted later, outside the generally accepted range of "classic rock". Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10/26/2013 @ 23:47pm |
Yeah, that's what I assumed as well until I got to the Zombies post and saw that you were propping up their British Invasion status as an intangible (which you've now explained). I suppose "Get Lucky" proves that Rodgers' production work is still relevant decades after his peak. Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 10/27/2013 @ 06:53am |
Good analysis from all three of you, but Enigmaticus, I have to take issue with this: Posted by Sam on Sunday, 10/27/2013 @ 19:27pm |
Sam, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/28/2013 @ 02:44am |
I ranked the nominees by attempted merits on my blog *shameless plug* rockhallmonitors.blogspot.com Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 10/28/2013 @ 06:12am |
That's certainly a valid point. Where us the connection between Rush and Duran Duran? In order to answer that question, one has to look back to what is known as the "Synthesizer Era" of Rush's history. I prefer to call it their Early Modern Period and Late Modern Period. During that time, Rush had incorporated many of the sounds of the new wave into their presentation. Neil Peart has been quoted as saying, "We all loved the music of that time...we were young enough to be influenced by .... And we've never said that doesn't suit Rush, those words have never been uttered..." Additionally, during that time period, Geddy Lee had referred to Duran Duran as a "good band" and Alex Lifeson had decided that he wanted to dress like Simon Le Bon, according to Geddy. The point is that Rush was always interested in experimenting with new styles, they had hired two "pop" producers during that time: Peter Collins and Rupert Hine and their music had reflected a more polished sound with shorter songs. -- etc., onward Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 10/28/2013 @ 06:43am |
Cheesecrop, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/28/2013 @ 10:10am |
Something I wondered: Since the nomination for Hall & Oates was for that--as opposed to Daryl Hall and John Oates (as listed on at least one of their albums), if they are inducted, would the inductees include their band or just those two individuals? If anyone can shed light on this, I would very much appreciate it. Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 01:10am |
Hall and Oates band were sidemen, just like Elton John's band. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 08:31am |
who is the one inductee that would surprise you if they were inducted in 2014? Posted by chris on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 12:01pm |
LL Cool J Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 12:27pm |
Sadly, the Replacements. They'll get in eventually, once the 90s alt-rock bands start paving the way for the 80s alt-rock bands that paved the way for them in the first place. But it's gonna take them a while. This just ain't their year. Posted by Taylor on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 13:42pm |
Cat Stevens Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 13:53pm |
The Meters. I'd love to see it, but would be shocked. Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 14:22pm |
The Meters. I'd love to see it, but would be shocked. Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 14:23pm |
Not sure if this would count but if all three of the "classic rock" nominees got in that would be a huge shock. Posted by Tom H on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 14:24pm |
I agree with LL Cool J and The Replacements. Posted by BSLO on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 15:17pm |
Enigmaticus: I see what you mean. Rush certainly did try to update their sound during the Moving Pictures era. Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 06:03am |
I think the biggest shocker for me would probably be the Meters. To me, they have the least chance of anybody. Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 06:27am |
The way that I see it, there are three "progressive rock" acts on the ballot: Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 09:55am |
The way that I see it, there are three "progressive rock" acts on the ballot: Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 11:43am |
most likely deep purple and yes as eventual inductees Posted by chris on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 12:04pm |
'Enigmaticus', you make some interesting observations but I'd have to say I hear more of the Police, Peter Gabriel, and a Talking Heads influence on "80's Rush" moreso than Duran Duran, at least in terms of experimentation. Looking back on that incredible decade of Rush music the funny thing is when all is said and done they still brought in a predominently "hard rock" audience. Frankly, there weren't many, if ANY, "new wave" fans at a Rush concert in the 80's despite the band's admiration for that type of music. Sure, I'm generalizing to a point, but I'm not that far off the mark, either. Great comments, and I'm also rooting for a LONG OVERDUE induction of Deep Purple as well. We'll see. Posted by V.F.T. on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 21:53pm |
Yes, V.F.T. you are correct. Perhaps it was Duran Duran that was being accepted by the classic rock audience instead, as evinced by this link: Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 04:24am |
Is it too soon to predict that Lou Reed will be on the ballot for the 2015 class next year? Posted by Donnie on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 09:39am |
Lou Reed is already in with Velvet Underground, though, right? I guess we'll see if they think that's sufficient. Posted by Mike on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:28am |
Deep Purple Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 14:09pm |
Yeah, I was meaning his solo career when it comes to Lou Reed. The Velvet Underground were inducted in 1996. Posted by Donnie on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 00:24am |
Cheesecrop, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 04:13am |
Cheesecrop, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 11:09am |
I think there are bands from that era I would place ahead of Duran Duran (e.g., The Cure) but they are a legitimate possible. They were huge in the early 80s and they showed some staying power. Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 19:14pm |
I think there are bands from that era I would place ahead of Duran Duran (e.g., The Cure) but they are a legitimate possible. They were huge in the early 80s and they showed some staying power. Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 19:52pm |
Inductee prediction: Posted by Classic Rock on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 20:43pm |
Here are my Inductee predictions: Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 22:17pm |
Hey Cheese, thought I'd get back to your comments: Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 23:47pm |
Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 01:01am |
Actually no, Gassman: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 01:31am |
My order of preference amongst this year's inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 01:51am |
Cheesecrop, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 02:06am |
I happen to take exception to Tom Lane's comments on this year's nominees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 09:58am |
Philip/Enigma: Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 11:13am |
"I'm not sure how you're linking Nirvana and the Replacements, or what mentioning the distortion pedal has to do with the Replacements either. Anyway, the way they made the guitars sound angry is only part of the formula." Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 12:14pm |
Chalkie, if that's what Cheese was trying to say, he took a very convoluted path to saying it, as he makes no reference to the Replacements in his critique of Nirvana, and "see Nirvana above" usually means "the critique of Nirvana also applies as critique of the Replacements". Yeah I hear Westerberg in Cobain, although the Replacements were far from Nirvana's biggest influence either. Also, pretty sure the distortion pedal was around well before the Replacements. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 12:41pm |
How much influence did "punk" rock really have on anything? Rush had not started writing shorter songs because of punk; instead, they had been tired of writing 20+ minute long epics. Those epics were too easy for them to write, so naturally they had gravitated towards writing shorter songs. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 18:13pm |
Enig - I know that it's almost impossible for you to contemplate a musical scenario where Rush isn't the canter of the universe, but your question fails because of that. the influence of punk has nothing, in any way shape or form, ABSOFREKINGLUTELY NOTHING do with Rush. They don't belong anywhere near the question. Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 18:52pm |
@Cheesecrop-You don't see the correlation between the ever dwindling number of rock stations and these same stations playing the same unimaginative songs? Rockism and AOR. When someone needs to give you a map, GPS and a compass to find that rock music that is still "out there" just not in public view, it sort of proves the point. Posted by astrodog on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 19:18pm |
How much influence did "punk" rock really have on anything? Rush had not started writing shorter songs because of punk; instead, they had been tired of writing 20+ minute long epics. Those epics were too easy for them to write, so naturally they had gravitated towards writing shorter songs. Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 19:18pm |
Art rock and new wave overlap quite a bit. Posted by astrodog on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 19:21pm |
@Cheesecrop-You don't see the correlation between the ever dwindling number of rock stations and these same stations playing the same unimaginative songs? Rockism and AOR. When someone needs to give you a map, GPS and a compass to find that rock music that is still "out there" just not in public view, it sort of proves the point. Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 11/3/2013 @ 19:43pm |
'I am familiar with some of Porcupine Tree's work, Steven Wilson's solo work, etc.' Posted by Sam on Friday, 11/8/2013 @ 17:53pm |
Here is my 'realistic' prediction of who I believe Wenner & co. will be inducting next year: Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 11/11/2013 @ 12:39pm |
I was very disappointed by Digital Dream Door's analysis of 2014's nomination class: Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/12/2013 @ 08:11am |
Digital Dream Door's an utter joke. Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 11/12/2013 @ 12:26pm |
I know it's the cool thing around here to trash DDD, but I actually find it to be a pretty good place to start research. Generally I actually find that their lists on Alternative artists, and top songs by said artists are pretty much the same as what gets bandied around on this forum. Posted by BSLO on Tuesday, 11/12/2013 @ 12:57pm |
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2014-hall-of-fame-readers-poll/ Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/15/2013 @ 07:08am |
http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/reply/23004/Nominees-Rock-Roll-Hall-Fame-2013-Nominee-Bal#reply-23004 Posted by John R.C. on Saturday, 11/16/2013 @ 14:58pm |
Well, I'd like to think there's a little more than just that- birthdates, birthplaces, dates of death, places of death, causes of death, which noteworthy songs are covers, noteworthy songwriters of noteworthy songs...lots more chances to make errors... Posted by Charles Crossley Jr on Saturday, 11/16/2013 @ 16:18pm |
Charles, Thank you for your analysis of the nominees. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/17/2013 @ 13:27pm |
Of course, I would not be upset with either Chic, The Meters, Link Wray, or The Paul Butterfield Blues Band getting in as the either the 5th, or 9th choic; just as long as Yes, Deep Purple, Peter Gabriel and Hall & Oates make the induction list as well. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/17/2013 @ 13:33pm |
Of course, I would not be upset with either Chic, The Meters, Link Wray, or The Paul Butterfield Blues Band getting in as either the 5th, or 9th choice; just as long as Yes, Deep Purple, Peter Gabriel and Hall & Oates make the induction list as well. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/17/2013 @ 13:38pm |
Yes, I know that I had listed 9 inductees in the previous list. I would not have personally chosen Nirvana, however. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/17/2013 @ 13:41pm |
I concur with Enigmaticus in offering our thanks to Charles Crossley Jr. in presenting his analysis of the Rock Hall nominees for 2014. Few of us fellow posters could do that form of committment to our craft. After looking at the analysis, I am now of the inference that the RRHOF will induct 7 Performers this time out for 2014. 5 of these Performers are, I infer, virtual locks for induction. Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 11/17/2013 @ 22:11pm |
The Latest Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Online Fan Poll Results Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/18/2013 @ 06:08am |
Yes, kiss Chic! No, don't kiss Chic! Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/18/2013 @ 06:11am |
http://www.today.com/video/today/53294799/#53294799 Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/18/2013 @ 06:37am |
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/53300333#53300333 Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/18/2013 @ 06:39am |
Any possibility that they might throw Link Wray into Early Influences? I think it could be possible (although maybe a bit insulting as well). Posted by Josh on Monday, 11/18/2013 @ 12:20pm |
It's not a question of whom I would like to see being inducted, it's now just a question of who has deserved induction? Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/19/2013 @ 09:02am |
I've never heard of or read Digital Dream Door until now, so it was difficult for me to know how big and professional the website is (as well as the commentary). Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 11/19/2013 @ 12:00pm |
Jason- Posted by Ryan on Tuesday, 11/19/2013 @ 23:44pm |
7 INDUCTEES PREDICTIONS FOR 2014 RRHOF: Posted by Nick on Thursday, 11/21/2013 @ 17:27pm |
Nirvana because, lets face it, they influenced countless bands and probably stand as the second biggest influential Rock band from the 90's (Possibly behind Radiohead). Posted by Jeff J Dotson on Thursday, 11/21/2013 @ 20:08pm |
The only thing I find disappointing is the lack of R&B nominees. I would've gladly seen the Paul Butterfield Blues Band taken out for someone like the Spinners, War, Barry White, Chaka Khan, the Commodores, Bill Withers, Janet Jackson, or Whitney Houston. Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 11/26/2013 @ 12:20pm |
December has arrived! Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12/1/2013 @ 06:11am |
Of the 16 nominees, I think that these artists will be amongst the 2014 inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/1/2013 @ 09:19am |
December has arrived! Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 12/1/2013 @ 10:42am |
If I were to speculate about which artists might also make that list, I would probably include Chic. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/1/2013 @ 13:48pm |
Yes Roy, it is indeed December. December is a most important month for all who dwell in this world in which we live in. Not only in respect to our Christmas/Hannukah/Kwanzaa/Ramadan/Solstice holidays, but also this is the month we will find out whom will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for theclass of 2014. As of now, I do not know what non-performers and other side categories will be inducted. I do however infer there will be at least 5 inductees going in as performers. Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 12/1/2013 @ 22:28pm |
It will be 9 more days til the ballot for the 2014 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ends. By the mean time, I will post my final predictions for the 2014 inductees for the performer category. My prediction is the same as the ones from Tom Lane's blog, but here my viewpoints on why they will be inducted this year and it is a safe bet that they will induct six this year. Here are my final prediction for the 2014 inductees: Posted by John R.C. on Monday, 12/2/2013 @ 00:31am |
Those are great choices, John R. C. Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/2/2013 @ 07:47am |
Who I want to go in: Posted by Tom H. on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 18:15pm |
Here is whom I would like to see present the 2014 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. That is to say, whom I infer will be inducted about one week from tonight. Posted by Lax30 on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 22:51pm |
Tom H., Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 22:57pm |
If I were to speculate about which artists might also make that list, I would probably include Chic. Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 23:00pm |
Favorite song by each of the nominees: Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 23:04pm |
Great idea for a poll. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/3/2013 @ 23:43pm |
I concur wholeheartedly with this idea, classic Rock& Philip. Therefore, here is my list: Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/5/2013 @ 01:27am |
Last year's list would have looked something like this: Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/5/2013 @ 01:41am |
What a great idea. I concur completely with Classic Rock and Philip regarding this list, although I am hard pressed to name more than a few songs by any artists, with the possible exceptions of: Yes, Peter Gabriel abpnd Deep Purple. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/5/2013 @ 01:51am |
My most favored songs amongst the 2014 nominees would likely be as follows: Posted by Lax30 on Thursday, 12/5/2013 @ 21:43pm |
My favorite songs from this year's nominees.... Posted by Donnie on Friday, 12/6/2013 @ 07:55am |
This is too much fun not to participate! Posted by Josh on Friday, 12/6/2013 @ 09:57am |
Posted by Tom H. on Friday, 12/6/2013 @ 11:38am |
Paul Butterfield: East-West Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 12/6/2013 @ 11:45am |
Today on 'That Metal Show' was the episode about their criticisms for the RRHOF. This episode I guess originally aired two years ago when they were talking about the 2012 inductees. Sadly, very little has changed since, although Deep Purple and Kiss are now getting their attention on the ballot and the fans are taking great advantage of voting. Rush, who they also highlighted, is of course in. But what about the others? Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 12/6/2013 @ 11:50am |
Here are some of my favourites: Posted by Paul in KY on Sunday, 12/8/2013 @ 11:35am |
I'm only listing songs for the nominees I like and have enough albums/singles from in my collection, as I either haven't had enough exposure to the others (Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Meters, LL Cool J, Chic, The Zombies, KISS, The Replacements) or I flat-out despise them (Linda Ronstadt, NWA, Cat Stevens, Nirvana, Deep Purple). Posted by Zach on Sunday, 12/8/2013 @ 19:39pm |
Here are my favorite songs by this year's class of Nominees: Posted by Andrew on Sunday, 12/8/2013 @ 23:15pm |
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog.php#unique-entry-id-298 Posted by FRL on Monday, 12/9/2013 @ 23:57pm |
Tomorrow will be the day voting ends and the ballot will be due. In the meantime, I will predict the sub-categories for induction. Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 00:54am |
Regarding the wonderful realm of progressive rock: Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 09:15am |
Still sticking to my guns to my 6 predicted 2014 nominees: Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 14:14pm |
So Ronstadt is ninth in the FRL's poll of the nominees? But naturally she just must be inducted? Ha! It never fails. Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 16:55pm |
I think my final 6 predicted nominees are as follows: Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 17:32pm |
Interesting that people think rap will be omitted. It could be. I suspect however, that they will instead ignore the earlier rock. They've been slowly moving away from it. Albert King qualifies as a '60s act, but he was also a '70s artist, and had a lot of success during that time too. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 20:55pm |
Well, Future Rock Legends have predicted their 6 inductees into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame Class of 2014. This comes on the same day all ballots were to be sent in, and the fan ballot ended. I suppose we should start with the knowledge that there will be at least 6 inductees. Hopefully, there will be more than 6 this coming election. However, I agree with only 4 of the 6 predicted inductees FRL has named. Posted by Lax30 on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 22:03pm |
I remember last year they literally waited until that same week to announce the inductees and even then it was skeptical about the dates but I guess they're satisfied with the final results. Can't wait for the results. I have a feeling both Deep Purple and KISS will get in just so purists would shut up about the committee ignoring them all this time. Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 22:41pm |
Lax, you are the breathing definition of "specious logic." Mandela's death has absolutely nothing to do with the delayed announcement. We do know however, that sometimes the committees for the other categories don't meet until either after the votes have been counted, or at least when enough of them have been counted to project inductees. We know this, because this is how Wanda Jackson and Freddie King ended up Early Influences, after failing to garner enough Performer votes. Also the ballots may only have to be postmarked by today, not necessarily received. It could be any number of things, those are just alternatives. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/10/2013 @ 22:55pm |
If I were to speculate about which artists might also make that list, I would probably include Chic. Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/11/2013 @ 08:29am |
For the record, we don't believe Link Wray will be inducted as an Early Influence. If he gets in it will be as a Performer. Sure, the Rock Hall has screwed this up before (and still could), but hopefully they would get it right this time. Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 12/11/2013 @ 16:59pm |
Rumors are that KISS are in and also that Link Wray is in as an Early Influence (basing the latter on a Wiki edit on the inductees list a few days back...it's either that or a sly Hall watcher). I wouldn't mind these shitty backdoor inductions so much if the category were simply titled Influences. Early Influences makes zero sense for people like Wray, Freddie King and Wanda Jackson. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 06:17am |
Casper, as the years pass, their era gets earlier and earlier :-) Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 07:45am |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 07:47am |
Roy: I'm surprised that hasn't been removed yet. Strangely enough, the anonymous user who added it doesn't appear to be a troll or vandal, as they've made several legitimate edits, mostly to articles about New Zealand rugby. I'm not seeing anything else on the internet about it, though, so I'm going to assume it's just wishful thinking for now. Posted by Idlewild on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 08:54am |
Eddie Trunk hints KISS is in but Deep Purple is out. Posted by Tim on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 20:57pm |
casper, not only would Link Wray be a bad EI induction, he'd be a bad Influence induction. Wanda, you could argue was more country than rock. Freddie was straight-laced blues. But Link Wray is rock 'n' roll through and through. The only category he should be in is Performer. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/12/2013 @ 21:22pm |
Eddie Trunk tweeted the comment about three long overdue bands (DP, Kiss, Yes) not making it in the same year. So he is saying that a Kiss induction immediately rules out the other two? Did he hear this through the grapevine, or is it just his opinion? I'm not sure. Posted by Deb on Saturday, 12/14/2013 @ 09:37am |
Hi Deb, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/14/2013 @ 15:43pm |
Enigmaticus, I'm wondering if Eddie heard something about Kiss from Rick Krim, an EVP at VH1 who also happens to be on the RRHOF nominating committee. I hope Eddie was just being sarcastic in his remarks about Deep Purple and Yes. I'm a long-time fan of DP. I agree, they had some of the greatest rock vocalists and musicians, too: Ritchie Blackmore, Jon Lord and Ian Paice. I don't dislike Kiss, and I think many of their fans also voted for DP and Yes on the RRHOF ballot. But you're right, Kiss are basically showmen and marketing mavens....and DP and Yes are bands that play, sing, and write at a level that Kiss will never reach. Can you imagine Deep Purple or Yes selling caskets and cremation urns? Posted by Deb on Saturday, 12/14/2013 @ 19:27pm |
Deb, I think Eddie Trunk is just lamenting the fact that RRHoF is not rockist enough. The classes that get inducted are generally a little bit more well-rounded than their wet dream of all-guitar bands that can shred. Even the few years that were without a racial minority, there's a bit more rounding out than rockists generally care for: In 2003, they inducted a reggae-influenced rock band, a rock act with hugely bluesy roots, and a blue-eyed soul duo; in 2008, they inducted a dance music diva; in 2012, they inducted a blue-eyed soul songstress, a rap act, and a rock act that often incorporated rap-styled delivery. Trunk and his ilk want the inducted class to exactly mirror the Current FRL poll results above: Nirvana, Yes, KISS, Deep Purple, and Peter Gabriel. I agree that it's highly unlikely for DP, Kiss, and Yes to get inducted all in the same year, but I don't think that's an inherently bad thing either. Then again, 2006 saw the inductions of Black Sabbath, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the Sex Pistols together, so who knows? Posted by Philip on Saturday, 12/14/2013 @ 23:44pm |
Yeah, I agree with Philip that Eddie Trunk was basically commenting on the state of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and how they choose their inductees. Aka: no class is ever gonna have solely classic rock groups. Meaning it's pretty unlikely that KISS, Yes, and Deep Purple will all get inducted at once. It's not entirely impossible as if they do go with six inductees, Nirvana would also be inducted, and they could round it out with a female artist (Linda Ronstadt), and then an R&B or rap act (Chic, or NWA/LL Cool J). But it's still unlikely. Posted by Donnie on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 00:07am |
Yeah, I agree with Philip that Eddie Trunk was basically commenting on the state of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and how they choose their inductees. Aka: no class is ever gonna have solely classic rock groups. Meaning it's pretty unlikely that KISS, Yes, and Deep Purple will all get inducted at once. It's not entirely impossible as if they do go with six inductees, Nirvana would also be inducted, and they could round it out with a female artist (Linda Ronstadt), and then an R&B or rap act (Chic, or NWA/LL Cool J). But it's still unlikely. Posted by Donnie on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 00:07am |
Heaven forbid that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame cave to the "rockists". What's next? The Baseball Hall of Fame cave to great baseball players? Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 00:22am |
Yes Classic Rock, because guitar bands are the only actual, genuine definition of "rock and roll". Heaven forbid that people actually realize that rock'n'roll is much bigger than just classic rock and metal bands, and that it also includes soul, disco, rap, doo-wop, surf, and even reggae. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 00:43am |
I agree to what you said Philip. If they only had to induct one or two "classic rock/metal" acts, it will be either Yes and KISS (if Trunk's sources of KISS being inducted are true). Posted by John R.C. on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 01:27am |
Possibly, but you also have to remember that Nirvana ALSO fits that description... they're not classic rock or really metal, but they ARE a power guitar band. Nirvana is a influential guitar band, they're an alternative scene act, and they're a newly eligible sure shot. They fit all three of those slots simultaneously, which would open up the opportunity to vote for other, different acts. Why vote for KISS when you've already voted for another guitar band (Nirvana)? Why vote for the Replacements when you've already voted for another alternative scene band (also Nirvana)? The presence and surety of Nirvana on the ballot poses a real danger to the chances of these other acts making it in. There might be one more, but they've got Nirvana to fill that guitar god slot already, so don't be shocked if the voters feel that's all the rockist representation required for this class. Posted by Philip on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 01:50am |
I am still sticking with my list of 7, possibly 8 inductees: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 21:29pm |
Here is what we possibly know, per Eddie Trunk and Wikipedia: Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 22:59pm |
Yes, the Revisited/Projected oversight of the Paul Butterfield Blues Band is most definitely their roadblock to Cleveland. Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 00:12am |
*reads a few posts above this one* Posted by Philip on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 01:16am |
Does anybody know when and where tomorrow the announcement will take place? And if we can see it live somewhere Posted by Chris on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 14:17pm |
Final prediction: Posted by Tim on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 16:03pm |
My prediction: Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 16:24pm |
Final Prediction: Posted by Donnie on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 16:44pm |
My final predictions: Posted by Gassman on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 17:02pm |
Chic Posted by rockstar23 on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 18:40pm |
If Link Wray gets in this year (in whatever way), I think it's a good bet to see Dick Dale on the ballot next year. Kind of like Freddie King -> Albert King. Posted by rockstar23 on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 18:41pm |
Based on a recent tweet reposted on Future Rock Legends, ir appears LL Cool J will not be inducted this year. However, Mr. Smith will likely get inducted within another year or so. Thus, now we know the fate of 5 of the nominees this year. Here then is whom I and other fellow posters infer will be inducted amongst the nominees. Posted by Lax30 on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 22:06pm |
They were all deserving this year, so the Hall has that going for them. Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 12/16/2013 @ 23:58pm |
Any guesses on the order of induction or who will do the inducting? Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 12/17/2013 @ 00:22am |
@Chris, I'm black and you won't get any complaints from me about the "lack" of black inductees since all the people nominated were deserving of an induction and at the end, we know not everything's gonna be fair. So I don't mind this, seeing as some years didn't include a single black inductee of any sort. This year, Clarence Clemons will be the sole one and he's receiving a posthumous one as member of the E Street Band. But I'm not disappointed with this year's choices. Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 12/17/2013 @ 00:28am |
http://news.yahoo.com/rock-roll-hall-fame-becoming-racist-170700082.html Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 12/17/2013 @ 01:51am |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgZl6S3FUg Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 12/17/2013 @ 02:04am |
Tim, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 12/17/2013 @ 12:18pm |
Did anyone get more than four predictions correct? Posted by FRL on Thursday, 12/19/2013 @ 09:29am |
Who I want to go in: Posted by Tom H. on Thursday, 12/19/2013 @ 11:37am |
My ranking from before: Posted by SotN on Sunday, 12/22/2013 @ 06:53am |
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