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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  Mat R,

What are your early predictions for the 2025 nominees and Out of your early predictions for the 2025 nominees, Which ones do you see being inducted (If 8 inductees again)?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 23:42pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote:
  Ya know what I would change if I was the hall: the calender.

Like why not break up when you announce the inductees and categories (like do a category a month between Jan and March with the performers in April)? Why not like do a special in the summer of a pair of tributes to your influence and me inductees filmed at the Hall as like Disney+ specials so they get a better spotlight?

God this current hall calendar sucks

Like I gotta imagine the hall, Disney, Skyes, and krim could pull of a quickie turnaround series of 30 minute behind the music type episodes on each performer inductee that could be rolled out over August to the ceremony
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 23:28pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, chasingwildcat wrote:
  Being able to vote for seven candidates makes ties more likely, so I believe that having 8-9 performer inductees in future classes will become the norm.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 22:51pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, chasingwildcat wrote:
  Being able to vote for seven candidates makes ties more likely, so I believe that having 8-9 performer inductees in future classes will become the norm.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 22:51pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  richie

Coldplay is more famous than white stripes, Radiohead and Oasis in US. Even old people like Willie Nelson covered Coldplay songs. Also, Chris Martin is more friendly with industry people than likes of Thom Yorke, Jack White and Gallagher Brothers.

But yes nothing is guaranteed, especially after the shocking failure of Mariah Carey in this year (she did not even near the finish line, she was way from being voted in). Any big acts could actually fail.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 22:06pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  Power,

As much as I love Coldplay, I just have a really hard time seeing them getting in on their first nomination especially if Radiohead, The White Stripes and Oasis all couldn't get in on their first nomination, so I see Coldplay doing the same.

What do you think?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 22:00pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  richie,

Return Nominees:
Beck (22)
Devo (19, 21, 22)
Mariah Carey (I am shocking she does not even ever near the finish line according to Alan Light's statement, she may actualy have many industry enemies)
Soundgarden (20, 23)
Iron Maiden (21, 23)
Eric B & Rakim (12, 24)
Cyndi Lauper (23)

New Nominees:
Coldplay
Luther Vandross
Outkast
Phil Collins
Bryan Adams
Alanis Morissette
TLC (Rick Krim has relation with TLC, this is a name will be brought up soon just like Oasis. Rick Krim actually has powers)

My guess of performer Inductees from my list: Coldplay, Outkast, Phil Collins, Luther Vandross, Cyndi Lauper, Mariah Carey, Bryan Adams, Devo (If 8)
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 21:46pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  Power,

What are your early predictions for the 2025 nominees?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 21:20pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  Nominating Committee member Alan Light says he was told that the 6th, 7th, and 8th place finishers were all within a few votes of each other so the Rock Hall put them all in. He also heard there was more distance between 8th and 9th place than between 1st and 8th.

The new voting rules this year might have led to more ties and smaller vote margins between the inductees. For example, it's possible that many voters cast their votes for almost all nominees such as Ozzy Osbourne, Dave Matthews Band, Foreigner, and Peter Frampton, resulting in a similar number of votes for those who were finally inducted.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 21:13pm
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About Conway Twitty, Delbert Cole Jr. wrote:
  No Word As Of Yet About Conway Twitty Getting Selected For 2024 The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame But I Do Think It's Certain He Will Eventually Get There. The Facts Remain That His Rock And Roll
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 21:07pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote:
  Shocking twist for 2025

Sufjan Stevens fans are stoked that he's eligible
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 21:01pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  Power,

What are your early predictions for the 2025 nominees and Out of your early predictions for the 2025 nominees, Which ones do you see being inducted (If 8 inductees again)?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 20:19pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  literally why would you make your username that? out of all the possible usernames... good lord
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 16:39pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, RapeOfTheSabines wrote:
  If the Hall of Fame wanted to do some serious reaching out they should nominate Vince Clarke. Yes, he was inducted for his work with DepecheMode; but, thats a mere fraction of what this guy has done. His work with Alison Moyet and later Andy Bell cements him as a real pioneer in electronic music. If anyone from the committee is reading these posts it's high time you listed Vince Clarke, he is truly deserving. Along with artists like Kate Bush, Roxy Music, Peter Gabriel he needs to be finally included.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 16:16pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  Ritchie,

I have extreme confidece that Mariah will return to the ballot and get inducted. honestly, I could see a ballot consisting mostly of returning nominees. kinda a counterpoint to this year, seeing as so many heavy hitters lost out, oasis Lenny Mariah Sade are all extremely popular.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 16:15pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  Will M,

What are your early predictions for the 2025 nominees?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 15:35pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  chrisd,

nah I'm American and a new Yorker, I've not seen moulin rouge with him in it but I did hear good things. I think you're right where images of BG would be posted next to cyndi or George Micheal on an 80s night poster, but that doesn't really equal acclaim in my eyes. just name recognition. sorta like msifits tho I believe they're worthy for a whole host of other reasons. and to CC's credit, they're songs certainly aren't forgettable, karma chameleon is often on pop radio. but I dont believe that equates into acclaim y'know?

like euythmics, I really only know and love Sweet Dreams are made of these. but that song is so legendarily amazing that you cant dispute euythmics belonging in the rock hall. culture club don't have a song that is trancendatly amazing like that.

interestingly, despite their importance, euthymics are kinda a one hit wonder in America I think. moreso than DEVO, who overcame that OHW tag through all the years of nerds like me insisting they aren't. not an insult against euthymics btw
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 15:29pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, ChrisD wrote:
  @Richie

I'm bad at making predictions, especially when it relates to metal, punk, hard rock, etc. since I have no gauge of their influence. And it seems like they're consistently the "most snubbed". I'm still in favour of inducting the centrist pop stars, as a poptimist myself *side smirk emoji*

Most of the people I'm rooting for have absolutely no hope of recognition outside the remote chance of an International Side Category. For example, the three most pervasive non-English genres in the American musical landscape today are Reggaeton, K-pop and Afrobeats. So I'm in favour of recognising their regional foremothers. Yes, foreMOTHERS:
LatAm: Celia Cruz
East Asia: Mariya Takeuchi
Africa: Miriam Makeba
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 15:24pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, ChrisD wrote:
  @Will M:

Can I assume that you're British? Seems like opinions across the Atlantic are polarized lmfao. I guess that's why Boy George has spent more time in the States lately. He's been stunt casted on Broadway right now to help sell tickets, and it's going well for all I know.

I'm not sure how much worth my narrow perspective has, since I was born well after their imperial pop phase, but have always thought of them at least an equal peer to Duran Duran as a relic of the New Romantics, at least in image...like in the way you would go to an 80's themed bar night...there would be Cyndi Lauper, Eurythmics, Duran Duran and Culture Club on the poster. When you zoom in on the minutiae, that might not equal quantitative acclaim, but others have got in for much, much, much less.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 15:07pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  extending it to 30, (these didn't include any technicaliteis like double/snubbed members/bands or session players)
steppenwolf
Free/Bad Company
Alice in chains
bauhaus
television
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 15:03pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  for the sake of making another list here are my 25 biggest snubs

Screamin Jay Hawkins
King Crimson
Jethro Tull
DEVO
Thin Lizzy
Pixies
Warren zevon
Runaways
B52s
New York Dolls
Janes Addiction
Violent Femmes
Soundgarden
Blue Oyster cult
Motorehead
Maiden
DIO
Misfits
Buzzcocks
Smiths
Replacements
Squeeze
Siouxsie and Banshees
JD/NO
Weezer
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 14:53pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, will m wrote:
  personally Ive never brought up culture club cause I dislike them,

but my opinion is irrelevant. I don't see them as very critically acclaimed nor fondly remembered. they're not on critic best of lists (clock of the heart being on the 500 songs rock hall list is very interesting tho).

in response to your points on their worthiness Chris, for queer rep, just go with the B-52 s who have far more acclaim and obvious influence (and are better but my opinion is irrelevant).

CC are definitely not on the level of DD. Duran has had much longer sustained critical and commercial success without having to resort to becoming tabloid fodder like boy George did. and durans music is more acclaimed and looked back on fondly than CC. Duran had a genuine renaissance of appreciation after having initially being maligned by critics for many years. culture club had no such re evaluation.

and if they're gonna induct any act whose recorded "do you want to hurt me" put in violent femmes. the song is so bad I don't even like the femmes cover, but I LOOOOOVE violent femmes-put them in.


as for my opinion which needs no justifications-i think karma chameleon, do you really want to hurt me, time clock of the heart, all those songs are annoying. and I dont like boy georges voice either. its all so plasticy. in my view, culture club are the point where "new wave" stopped reffering to more palatable yet artisier strains of punk-like DEVO Elvis Costello The Police the cars blondie etc, to begin referring to plasticy pop groups the majority of which I think are crap. I'm not being polite, for that I apologize but personally, I cannot see how culture club are a hall worthy band. I'm queer myself, and I think boy George is a complete hack.

as for genuine evidence they are not well regarded nowadays, on rate your music, only 2 of their albums are above a 3.0.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 14:34pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  ChrisD,

What are your early predictions for the 2025 nominees?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 14:08pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, ChrisD wrote:
  @Timothy Pernell:

I think that one monster hit is enough for consideration. Many people don't even have a single hit, a few of those types were inducted this year. But they would have at least two songs in contention for their signature song no? Karma Chameleon and Do You Really Want to Hurt Me? The legacy of their 80's cultural cachet is as least equal to Duran Duran? And it's not like they had to be reassessed like Duran Duran, since they won Best New Artist at the Grammys.

Boy George has quietly been active across media throughout the decades, similarly to Cyndi. He's currently on Broadway in Moulin Rouge I believe. I mean crudely speaking the Hall would fulfill some neglected queer quota with Culture Club.

They were on the Hall's radar before with their song Time Clock of the Heart included in their 500 Songs that Shaped Rock. It wasn't even a major hit in the grand scheme of things and not the most recognized in their canon.

Honestly I'm officially an advocate for Culture Club and I'll be spamming comment sections in fansites, forums and podcasts until they're on their radar.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 14:04pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  ChrisD,

CC might be perceived as a technical one-hit wonder. Despite scoring many transatlantic hits between 1982-86, they're primarily known as the band behind "Karma Chameleon", which is their signature song. But who knows? They could be a contender. George Michael is in (and I think they credit the Wham hits to him solely), Eurythmics, Depeche Mode and Duran Duran are in. But my guess is Culture Club have yet to make a serious case for an induction. Hope I'm wrong.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 13:33pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  xwing1212,

Who I think came dead last? Sade likely.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 13:29pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  Mat r

This year, you can see that the two inductees in the influence category primarily impacted British music, with little direct influence on American music. Does this suggest that the Rock Hall's side category committee is becoming more open to introducing non-US musicians whose influence isn't centered on American music? Historically, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's criteria would not have allowed for the induction of artists who only influenced popular British musicians in the US, rather than directly influencing many American musicians and styles. Does this mean that artists who are very influential in the UK but less so in the US, like Cliff Richard, or even bands like The Jam, Stone Roses, Blur, and Pulp, might have a chance to be selected by the side category? Or that we might soon see artists like Serge Gainsbourg, Fela Kuti, or Jacques Brel inducted in side category?
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 13:28pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote:
  Humble Pie will probably never get into the Rock Hall but Steve Marriott who is with Small Faces and now Peter Frampton is still good representation of the band in the Hall
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 13:18pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote:
  Alec tess

Maybe more in influence which reminds

Mc5 and Warwick getting excellence rather than influence and the influence inductees being both proto rock and almost traditional blues...any one think they might be going back to making influence more non-rock/pop?
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 12:56pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote:
  If the Hall decides to open up the book for more Jazz acts who is the mostly like to get honored 1st?

As much as I want it to be some one like John Coltrane or Charlie Parker

I feel like it will be someone who is still with us so they don't feel regret about leaving them out when they unfortunately leave this mortal plane so I am gonna say it will be Sonny Rollins or Herbie Hancock and mostly likely Hancock
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 11:45am
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About Snubbed Members, Joe S. wrote:
  Bill G:

Smokey Robinson was inducted in the second class of the R&R HoF in 1987 (and is, actually, the last surviving performer member of that class), and James Brown in the first class in 1986. Almost two decades later, the powers that be at the Hall decided they were wrong to not include the bands that backed Robinson, Brown, and several others. So, in 2004 they specifically inducted the backing bands (the Miracles, the Famous Flames, etc.) to accompany the original, already-inducted lead singers. Most of these lead singers didn't have success as solo acts, so it probably wouldn't have been appropriate to add them as two-time inductees. I hope this answers your question.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 11:42am
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  One name that hasn't been nominated for a few years now is Beck, He was first nominated for the 2022 class, but missed out on induction that year, Soundgarden and Dave Matthews Band were both first nominated for the 2020 class but both missed out on induction that year, Mary J. Blige was first nominated the following year for the 2021 class but missed out on induction that year, then Beck was nominated the following year for the 2022 class but missed out on induction that year, then Soundgarden came back for a second time the following year for the 2023 class but once again missed out on induction, then Mary J. Blige and Dave Matthews Band both came back for a second time this year for the 2024 class and this time, both got in, so don't be surprised to see Beck come back next year for the 2025 class and given how so much respect he has had with musicians, critics and industry people, Don't be surprised to see Beck as one of the 2025 inductees, plus the ceremony's most likely returning to Los Angeles (Beck's hometown) next year, so don't be surprised to see Beck come back and this time, get in next year for the 2025 class.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 11:05am
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  I feel Outkast and Wu Tang Clan will all be nominated in front of other hip hop snubs

Outkast has the biggest selling album in hip hop genre and one of the greatest hip hop songs of all time

Wu-Tang Clan is another obvious choice. It's not just their success as a group, but also the fact that individual members have released several platinum albums, which is truly remarkable. Inducting the Wu-Tang Clan could encompass the careers of several rap artists with platinum-selling albums.

I think these two will be the highest priority hip hop snubs for rock hall in the next.

What do you think?.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 09:41am
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About Snubbed Members, Bill G wrote:
  I'm still scratching my head as to WHY SMOKEY ROBINSON has not been inducted with THE MIRACLES
…and JAMES BROWN has not been included with THE FAMOUS FLAMES. Both of these men were actually MEMBERS of these groups…and BOTH of them found fame WITH those groups…FIRST.
To not include them with the GROUPS with which they first found fame and success is a gross distortion of HISTORY..and I don't think that many people wouldn't say that BOTH artists deserve to be honored as DOUBLE INDUCTEES .
I don't think that the HoF should pick and choose SOME artists to be inducted TWICE…while OTHER DESERVING artists should NOT. After all , CURTIS MAYFIELD, MICHAEL JACKSON, CLYDE McPHATTER , SAMMY STRAIN, and JOHNNY CARTER are all inducted twice ((not to mention each individual BEATLE…) and the SOLO CAREERS of JAMES BROWN. and SMOKEY ROBINSON are separate and distinct from their careers as GROUP MEMBERS…and BOTH were members of their GROUPS long BEFORE their subsequent SOLO careers…(after all, why are so many trying to get DIANA ROSS inducted again?) SAME PRINCIPLE.
And NOW are they going to induct Lionel Richie AGAIN…with THE COMMODORES? and CHAKA KHAN with RUFUS ? Or is the Hall of Fame just going to distort history AGAIN , by just THROWING THE GROUPS AWAY ?
And will SONNY BONO EVER BE INDUCTED? or will his name and legacy just be DELETED ?

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has a practice and history of CREATING their OWN CONTROVERSIES !!
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 09:18am
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote:
  One thing to point out that next year (2025) is Iron Maiden's 50th anniversary as a band, so if there was ever a perfect year to induct them into the Rock Hall, It's next year without a doubt, I'm really hoping with Ozzy's solo induction this year, that next year is finally Maiden's year especially with their 50th anniversary next year.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 08:46am
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote:
  Power

I agree I think maiden can get in on a ballot and unlike priest I don't think they'll be crammed in a side category.

They've been nominated twice against not only foo fighters and rage (two bands that also draw incredibly well but unlike maiden could headline Coachella, having general audiences matters) but also Soundgarden in 2023. If they get the Ozzy situation and they're the only harder rock act I think they can get in.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 08:24am
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About the 2024 Inductees, Elle Dee wrote:
  I think Sinéad might end up in the musical excellence category in the 2025 class because a lot of music critics and columnists are still pissed that she got snubbed. I'm sure the nom com are aware of the vitriol.
Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 03:09am
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About the 2024 Inductees, Ralib wrote:
  I can see Jeff Buckley being on the ballot next year. He has one of the most acclaimed albums of all time and has had a lot of influence other rockers in the industry from Radiohead to Soundgarden, and despite being out of the scene since 1997 he still gets a high amount of streams with 4.2 million monthly Spotify listeners.
Thursday, 04/25/2024 @ 23:52pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote:
  Mat r

What you said bodes well for Maiden as well. Maiden is also an arena tour act for about 30-40 years in US. Maiden could sneak in as performer on the right ballot
Thursday, 04/25/2024 @ 23:48pm
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote:
  Will m

Regarding concert sellers don't forget: Dave Matthews band was the biggest box office draw of the 2000s.

I do think box-office drawing power has been the most under valued metric here especially with rock recently (the cure, Radiohead, def Leppard, doobie bros, nin, Depeche mode, foo fighters, Duran Duran, Rage, Ozzy, DMB are all massive live draws)
Thursday, 04/25/2024 @ 23:14pm
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