FRL,

Electric Light Orchestra's Mlik Kaminski should be Mik Kaminski, Louis Clark, Wilf Gibson and Mike de Albuquerque were also snubs!

Steve Miller Band, Boz Scaggs should've been inducted.

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 01/18/2017 @ 22:24pm

FRL,

Louis Clark first joined The Electric Light Orchestra as a String Conductor starting with Eldorado, from 1974-1979.

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 01/18/2017 @ 23:21pm

When was Louis Clark an official band member and in what years? Just curious as he's usually not listed as a band member on the albums.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 01:49am

Definitely want to hear the debate concerning The Byrds as those non-inductees played on well liked enough albums that came right after Queen of the Rodeo, so I figured it wasn't too far past their peak.

I personally didn't include the extra Four Seasons member on the list and feel that groups like that and The Four Tops are the foursome as initially advertised, but I digress.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 01:50am

The Drifters seem to have the most screwed up induction of all time...really no reason a lot of those guys couldn't have been included. Too many plane tickets to pay for I guess.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 01:51am

That is crazy and sad that Clarence White, Skip Battin and Gene Parsons weren't inducted with The Byrds. Nuts. I'm actually OK with Gram Parsons not being inducted as a Byrd, he was really only around for part of an album.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 12:59pm

Parsons wasn't on my initial draft either, nor do I think he was around long enough to be deemed worthy. And hell, his retrospective compilations tend to cherry pick from his work with The Byrds and other groups before he went solo. He was really just Gram Parsons and never a group member.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 14:41pm

Other key official members who were excluded from their group's induction:

David Bowie - Mick Ronson (guitars)
David Bowie - Trevor Bolder (bass)
David Bowie - Mick "Woody" Woodmansey (drums)
David Bowie - Mike Garson (piano)
David Bowie - Carlos Alomar (guitars)
David Bowie - George Murray (bass)
David Bowie - Dennis Davis (drums)
David Bowie - Earl Slick (guitars)

Elton John - Davey Johnstone (guitars)
Elton John - Dee Murray (bass)
Elton John - Nigel Olsson (drums)

Neil Young - Danny Whitten (guitars)
Neil Young - Billy Talbot (bass)
Neil Young - Ralph Molina (drums)
Neil Young - Frank "Poncho" Sampedro (guitars)

Steely Dan - Denny Dias (guitar)
Steely Dan - Jeff "Skunk" Baxter (guitar)
Steely Dan - Jim Hodder (drums)
Steely Dan - David Palmer (vocals)

Jefferson Airplane - Signe Anderson (vocals)
Jefferson Airplane - Skip Spence (drums)

Ramones - C.J. Ramone (bass)

Electric Light Orchestra - Colin Walker (cello)

Yes - Patrick Moraz (keyboards)
Yes - Trevor Horn (vocals; producer)
Yes - Geoff Downes (keyboards)

Deep Purple - Tommy Bolin (guitar)

AC/DC - Chris Slade (drums)

The Who - Kenney Jones (drums; *inducted with Faces)

Posted by Joseph on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 18:32pm

It would probably be best to include The Spiders From Mars for Bowie as that was an actual backing band over two key albums and tours. So, Ronson/Bolder/Woodmansey.

I can see the case for Elton John's band members, but you might as well include Bernie Taupin - Lyricist.

I agree with the Crazy Horse members for Neil Young.

Steely Dan is a duo so I don't really see the point of including those other guys. Plenty of solo artist and duos have featured performers on their albums/tours. It doesn't make them band members.

Skip Spence was only around for one album and wasn't a founding member, so I'd say "No"...Signe Tole Anderson actually has a strong case and should be included.

C.J. Ramone entered the scene when The Ramones were churning out mediocre material...it's the same reason nobody cares, rightfully, about later Blackhearts members not being inducted with Joan Jett. I feel that a group's material past their peak must still have been pretty great/important, otherwise, there's not much of a purpose in including those later members.

Come on. We can't have everyone from ELO. Colin Walker was there for one measly album. Same goes for all those Yes guys and those minor Deep Purple Who and AC/DC members you mentioned. Again, the point of this is to induct the IMPORTANT individuals and not everybody that ever played on a recording.

I'm open to hearing more arguments though.



FRL, feel free to add The Spiders From Mars, Crazy Horse, Elton John's band members (and Bernie Taupin) along with Signe Anderson to the above list. Nice work Joseph.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/19/2017 @ 21:54pm

When was Louis Clark an official band member and in what years? Just curious as he's usually not listed as a band member on the albums.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01.19.17 @ 01:49am



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Like I'd said, 1974-1979, then also, 1983.

Eldorado marks the first album on which Jeff Lynne hired an orchestra; on previous albums, Lynne would overdub the strings. Louis Clark co-arranged (with Lynne and keyboardist Richard Tandy) and conducted the strings, and would eventually go on to become a full member of the band. - David Wild, "The Story of a Rock and Roll Band and the Pop Genius Who Dared to Go Baroque.", Flashback, Electric Light Orchestra box set from 2000.

Original Album Credits

Face the Music (1975)
Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy and Louis Clark – Orchestral and choral arrangements
Orchestra conducted by Louis Clark

A New World Record (1976)
Orchestra and choral arrangements – Louis Clark
Orchestra conducted by Louis Clark

Out of the Blue (1977)
Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy and Louis Clark – Orchestral and choral arrangements
Orchestra conducted by Louis Clark

Discovery (1979)
Jeff Lynne, Richard Tandy and Louis Clark – Orchestra and choral arrangements
Orchestra conducted by Louis Clark

Secret Messages (1983)
Strings conducted by Louis Clark ("Train Of Gold", "Danger Ahead" and "Stranger")

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 01/20/2017 @ 01:29am

This page was an excellent idea, as well as putting the snubbed members on the inducted acts' pages. Always give credit where credit is due, no matter how deserving they were or weren't. Take Dave Navarro. He may be satisfied he's not inducted with the Chili Peppers, but he knows Jane's Addiction was where he made his real mark.

This non-inducted member debate was brought to my attention when I saw Elton John nearly 3 years ago at Bonnaroo. Elton introduced the band, and he mentioned Nigel Olsson, who has been with him since Day One. Day One! Then I wondered, 'Well, why isn't he inducted with him?'. It'll be a never-ending argument for sure. Take the Beach Boys, or what's left of them. I saw Mike Love and Bruce Johnston perform two years ago, with a bunch of younger guys on stage. Yes, I already knew Al Jardine and Brian Wilson didn't want any part of it. So what about the guys who play with the current lineup? That always gets people scratching their heads.....

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 01/20/2017 @ 13:18pm

Don't forget Chevy Chase for Steely Dan (laughter inserted here)

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 01/20/2017 @ 13:32pm

I appreciate your comments, Casper! Point taken on the members who only played on a single, non-debut album. To have them included is a stretch.

Colin Walker's tenure with ELO coincided with Wilf Gibson's. They both played on 2 early ELO records ("ELO 2" and "On The Third Day"), and they left the group at the same time. I figured that if Wilf is recognized, so should Colin.

As for Skip Spence, I'm not sure about him being an original member, but he was the drummer on the debut album.

I feel that the Spiders From Mars are not the only ones who deserve recognition for David Bowie's success. His other group (with Carlos Alomar and company) was just as significant because they were part of his next great era (Young Americans, Station To Station, the "Berlin" trilogy, and Scary Monsters). It's a shame they don't have a fancy nickname like the one associated with Mick Ronson's group.

Steely Dan wasn't just a duo on their first 3 albums, at least. It was only after Pretzel Logic where Fagen and Becker replaced Baxter and Hodder with session musicians. I'm thinking that if the Rock Hall inducted all the original members of Heart and Pretenders other than the Wilson sisters and Chrissie Hynde, the original Steely Dan group deserve it as well.

Posted by Joseph on Friday, 01/20/2017 @ 20:57pm

***** The MIDNIGHTERS*****

What about ALONZO TUCKER ? Not only was he an ORIGINAL MEMBER, he was also the group's FOUNDER !!

(How's THAT for a snub)

****The MIRACLES****

BILLY GRIFFIN - He sang lead on the biggest-selling single ("Love Machine"-#1 Pop, 4.5 million seller) and album ("City Of Angels") that the group EVER HAD !!
Inducted ? NOPE.

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 01/22/2017 @ 04:37am

To all of those who want band members inducted w/the SOLO acts (Elton John, Bowie, etc.) they played for/with, I have one question: do you want their partners (oh boy, Yoko!!!), relatives, close friends, team management members (ugh), et al inducted too?

Posted by Let's Give Everyone a Trophy on Sunday, 01/22/2017 @ 16:16pm

Bill G, Billy Griffin was part of The Miracles after Smokey Robinson had left the group, so he doesn't really qualify.

I think your argument for Alonzo Tucker may have some merit. When did he leave The Midnighters?

Posted by Casper on Monday, 01/23/2017 @ 00:27am

I do think these three members of Steely Dan need to be added...had no idea they were all on the first three LPs.

Jeff "Skunk" Baxter (Guitar, 1972-1974)

Denny Dias (Guitar, 1972-1974)

Jim Hodder (Drums, 1972-1974)

Posted by Casper on Monday, 01/23/2017 @ 00:34am

Colin Walker (Cello, 1972-1973) should be added for Electric Light Orchestra. He was there early on and for two significant enough albums.

I see Norma Jean Wright was added above for Chic. I was kind of on the fence with her given her very short tenure with the band, but she sang on some classic songs and was their first vocalist. Plus, I think the Hall's own ballot information had her listed as a would-be inductee.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 01/23/2017 @ 00:44am

I think an argument can also be made on behalf of Don Ciccone and Gerry Polci who were the main vocalists for the Four Seasons during their brief, but notable comeback in '70s. Valli was really trying to detach from the group at that point and distinguish himself as a solo artist.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 01/23/2017 @ 16:35pm

FRL, these got skipped over when I sent in my initial list.


Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys

Louis Tierney - Fiddle - 1943-1947




Paul Butterfield Blues Band

Gene Dinwiddle - Alto Sax - 1967-1970
Keith Johnson - Trumpet - 1967-1969
Bugsy Maugh - Bass - 1967-1968
David Sanborn - Alto Sax - 1967-1970
Phil Wilson - Drums - 1967-1968

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 01/24/2017 @ 01:23am

Thinking about it more, we should add John Kiffmeyer for Green Day. (Drums, 1987-1990).

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/26/2017 @ 14:37pm

How about Pete Best and Stuart Sutcliffe for the Beatles?

Posted by Joe on Friday, 01/27/2017 @ 00:54am

No Hall of Fame for You: 19 Artists Left Out of Their Band’s 2017 Nominations

By Nick DeRiso October 19, 2016 5:19 PM

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2017-rock-hall-artists-left-out/

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 01/29/2017 @ 19:24pm

Joe, the recordings are what matter and neither Pete Best or Stu actually played on any official recordings released by The Beatles. Their eligibility date is determined by the start of their recording career which is the "Love Me Do" single. Likewise, if we didn't care about members having played on the actual records, then there would be literally hundreds of snubbed people who left bands before they began recording or were mostly just touring members. And at the end of the day, the recorded legacy is mostly all that remains for any given artist. Nobody is going to remember some random touring keyboardist from 1974 to 1978, etc.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 01/30/2017 @ 17:17pm

Some of these are very odd. Bruce Johnston really stands out as someone who has been a Beach Boy for a long time, and (unlike in some of the other cases such as Bob Welch and Fleetwood Mac) there does not seem to be any animosity from other members that might lead to a deliberate snub. John Dalton is also a surprising omission. It seems as if in the early years the Hall generally had stricter standards as to who the core members of a group were and since then has gotten somewhat (but not entirely) more liberal.

Posted by James K. on Saturday, 02/4/2017 @ 11:38am

Just think that there's a lot of overlooked 60's & 70's bands that were groundbreaking. Uriah Heep for sure- also Moody Blues, The Guess Who, Blue Oyster Cult for starters.
The time element for some newer artists is not long enough when you have some who've waited decades.

My understanding is they have to be innovative game-changers & that applies to newer artists as well, but those who came before did open doors & should go in first.

Music always evolves , as past inspires future.
Every decade influenced the next & the standouts are who should be inducted. If you're truly deserving, your time will come for newer artists.

Posted by K° on Sunday, 02/5/2017 @ 04:55am

Nobody ever remembers one group from the 70s that had quite a few rock & roll hits. They are truly the most unappreciated artists in the business, yet they have lasted over 5 decades because their fans love them so much. The Osmonds...also Donny osmond as a solo artist.

Posted by Mandy Bridges on Thursday, 02/9/2017 @ 00:16am

What about Tony Martin and Cozy Powell for Black Sabbath?

Posted by Nicky Joe on Friday, 02/10/2017 @ 16:43pm

Randy Jackson not only did vocals for the Jackson 5/Jacksons, but played keyboards, percussion and was one of the main songwriters in the group (Shake your Body Down). His snub was ludicrous.

Posted by Kj on Sunday, 02/12/2017 @ 11:21am

What about Mix Master Mike and DJ Hurricane of the Beastie Boys?

Posted by Rydall on Tuesday, 03/14/2017 @ 11:14am

Arabian Prince for NWA

Posted by Rydall on Tuesday, 03/14/2017 @ 11:17am

I'm not an expert on Frank Zappa, but after reading stuff about the man and his band (Mothers of Invention), I just realized that an update needs to be made on the list of members on this page.

Missing from the first wave of Mothers (1966-1969) are guitarist Elliot Ingber (who was a member on their debut "Freak Out!) and co-drummer Billy Mundi (who played on subsequent albums alongside main drummer Jimmy Carl Black).

After Zappa disbanded the Mothers, he reformed the group with a new set of members (1970-1972). George Duke and Jeff Simmons are already listed here, but missing are new vocalists Flo and Eddie (also knows as ex-Turtles Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan), current Rock Hall inductee Aynsley Dunbar (who was their new drummer), and another ex-Turtle, bassist Jim Pons.

Napoleon Brock (who is already listed) is from the last wave of the Mothers (1973-1975).

I hope you consider adding these important members of the first 2 waves of the band:

1. Elliot Ingber - guitars
2. Billy Mundi - drums
3. Mark Volman (a.k.a Flo) - vocals
4. Howard Kaylan (a.k.a Eddie) - vocals
5. Aynsley Dunbar - drums
6. Jim Pons - bass

Posted by Joseph on Wednesday, 03/15/2017 @ 05:32am

The final version of The Mothers is a mess of so many different players, so you might also want to consider removing Napoleon Brock from the list in order to limit the "snubees" to just the first 2 versions of the group.

Posted by Joseph on Wednesday, 03/15/2017 @ 06:38am

"To all of those who want band members inducted w/the SOLO acts (Elton John, Bowie, etc.) they played for/with, I have one question: do you want their partners (oh boy, Yoko!!!), relatives, close friends, team management members (ugh), et al inducted too?"

- Let's Give Everyone a Trophy

Yes, and their roadies, bodyguards and bus drivers too...

Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 03/27/2017 @ 22:31pm

Beastie Boys:

John Berry (Guitar 1981-1982)
Kate Schellenbach (Drums 1981-1984)

It's understandable why these two were not included; the group wasn't nominated for recording "Pollywog Stew". But they were first eligible 25 years after it, so in the interest of being complete here...

Posted by Carl Stone on Saturday, 04/8/2017 @ 19:04pm

The rules stating an artist can't be nominated into the RandR HOF because he or she was in more then one group AkaThe voice Johnny Meastro who is punished for being in 2 great groups The Crest and Brooklyn Bridge and till his passing still sod out arenas around the country is not just ridiculous but very very sad should be changed . Len weinman

Posted by Len weinman on Sunday, 04/23/2017 @ 14:19pm

Boom Gaspar should be added under Pearl Jam.

Posted by dmg on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 11:53am

Bob Marley and the Wailers should have been inducted, not just Marley.... at least the core three: Marley, Tosh and Wailer. All three of these artists are at the top of the reggae influential class.

As for the second-tier Wailers, the Barrett Brothers (Carlie and Aston) deserve entry, as they were the rhythm section for the Wailers' entire existence.

Posted by Barry on Wednesday, 06/14/2017 @ 11:43am

Megadeth needs to be inducted! Period!

Posted by Debbie P. on Wednesday, 07/12/2017 @ 13:04pm

What about the Marshall Tucker Band

Posted by William Hydock on Monday, 07/17/2017 @ 12:19pm

This page is for snubbed members of bands/artists that have already been inducted, not entire bands that weren't inducted yet. Marshall Tucker Band and Megadeth each have their own pages on this site.

Posted by dmg on Monday, 07/17/2017 @ 21:32pm

Visited the Rock Hall. Besides the Beatles Stones and Elvis the rest of the displays were small. Where was Pink Floyd,Queen, Kiss, Bod Seger, Billy Joel...the List goes on. What was Beyonnce and Lady Gaga doing on the wall? They say Modern Artists influenced by inductees. Well..isnt everyone? Its about Money. And by the way If John Denvers Lyrics Leaving on a Jet Plane are on their wall over the registers at the gift shop isnt he good enough to be in it? Rolling stone has 2 floors showing how important they are..wasted space. Their name is a rip off of a band, not even original.

Posted by Dennis Freeman on Sunday, 08/27/2017 @ 12:16pm

You should list Billy Griffin as a snubbed member of the Miracles.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09/4/2017 @ 08:50am

i think that George Michael should be inducted into the hall immediately..he was an outstanding producer, a marvelous writer..he songs are so personal and so well crafted and meaningful..and, to top it all off, he has the most beautiful voice to come along in ages...not inducted George Michael into the hall of fame is not only a snub, but casts doubt on the integrity of the whole nominating process...there are many, many fans of this artist on both sides of the Atlantic that feel he is more than deserving of this honor..which should have been accorded to him during his lifetime and wasn't...if you truly care about music and talent and the fans, you will do what should have been done years ago and honor George Michael...and it would be particularly fitting if the US were the first to honor and recognize his talent and humanitarianism...it is nothing less than he deserves...hopefully, this will be given the utmost consideration by your nominating committee immediately

Posted by Jacquelyn Romagnano on Friday, 09/15/2017 @ 15:08pm

Yeah right, dream on about THAT! #notgonnahappen

Posted by No Such Thing as the Death Fairy on Friday, 09/15/2017 @ 17:07pm

Regarding Black Sabbath: YES, Ronnie James Dio and Vinny Appice should have been inducted alongside the original four. No excuses! Enough said.

Regarding KISS: I think the Hall made the right decision honoring the original four ONLY. Gene, Paul, Peter, and Ace-- THEY ARE KISS!

That said, if Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick received induction, then Vinnie Vincent should be included as well. Singer, Thayer, and St. John, not so much.

Posted by VFT on Wednesday, 10/18/2017 @ 14:23pm

http://www.rollingstone.com/contributor/parke-puterbaugh wrote ELO's 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame program biography that had this to say about their only two most talked about lineups, so what's wrong with the Rock Hall band member selection committee, constant revolving door my ass... >:(

Lynne carried on as ELO's uncontested leader. The second album, ELO II, found Lynne and Bevan joined by bassist Michael De Albuquerque, violinist Wilf Gibson, and cellists Mike Edwards and Colin Walker, with Richard Tandy now handling keyboards. Tandy still serves alongside Lynne as a multi-instrumentalist, co-orchestrator, and valued musical partner.

...Two paragraphs later...

The next four years saw a procession of albums that defined ELO's sound and cemented its legacy, Eldorado (1974), Face the Music (1975), A New World Record (1976), and their double-album zenith, Out of the Blue (1977). "I've always loved classic rock-pop with melodies that take you somewhere", Lynne explained of his magic formula. "I'm interested in harmonies and the tension you get from chord changes."

The definitive ELO lineup was forged during this remarkable run of albums: Lynne, Bevan, and Tandy were joined by bassist Kelly Groucutt, violinist Mik Kaminski, and cellists Hugh McDowell and Melvyn Gale.

...Three more paragraphs later...

But as the ELO song without strings, "Don't Bring Me Down" heralded the end of an era. The times, and Lynne's mind, were changing: He was sick of touring and getting tired of strings. The band's frantic pace of releasing ten albums in ten years and constant road work was coming to an end. The band was shrinking as well, as Lynne whittled down his supporting cast to a core of Tandy, Bevan, and Groucutt. Only three-and-a-half ELO albums - Time, Secret Messages, and one side of the Xanadu film soundtrack - were released in the eighties. Each was worthy in its own way, generating a hit or two, but did not produce the sustained fire that had powered ELO through the previous decade.

...I'd argue that Time was at least equal to The 70's ELO output, but I digress...

By 1986, having met all contractual requirements for ELO, Lynne retired the band name for fifteen years.

...One paragraph later, two mistakes...

Lynne returned to the ELO moniker for Zoom in 2001, although this was essentially a solo album. The same held true for Lost in the Universe in 2013 - credited to Jeff Lynne's ELO. Surprisingly, ELO proved to be a phoenix as a live act in September 2014, performing before fifty thousand enthusiastic fans in London's Hyde Park. The twenty-first-century iteration of ELO also features Richard Tandy, whom Lynne calls, "my lifetime mate in that band."

Then absolutely not one single mention of Louis Clark along with his very important contributions from 1974-1986 to ELO either... :'(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Clark

"He was the conductor of the orchestra and choir hired to back Electric Light Orchestra's sound, introduced on their album Eldorado in 1974. He assisted Jeff Lynne and Richard Tandy in writing string arrangements as well. He later played synthesizers for the band during their Time tour. In 1983 he returned to conduct the strings on the Secret Messages album. In 1986 he played keyboards with ELO on their small number of live dates."

Jeff Lynne and Richard Tandy both worked alongside Louis Clark, a classically trained musician, that's why they brought him aboard, because without Lou, there would be no classic ELO sound!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 10/28/2017 @ 15:44pm

Rick,

I want to thank you for your recent post on ELO.

You presented insight that I had not thought about and information I did not know.

I liked ELO very much in the early days and bought "Out of the Blue". I never had the chance to see them live.

I really did not keep up with them afterward. I had my daughter and life suddenly got very busy!

I am a BIG fan of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers so when the "The Traveling Wilburys" came out I rediscovered Jeff Lynne.

One of my favorite RRHOF jams is for "When my guitar gently weeps" the tribute to George Harrison. Tom and Jeff nail the vocal and Prince blows everyone away on guitar. Everyone should take a few minutes and watch the clip. First George then Prince and now Tom gone....

When ELO got the nomination for the RRHOF I actually got somewhat well displeased. I am as everyone here knows a huge Moody Blues fan and thought they deserved the nomination first. I got over my anger and actually voted for ELO on the RRHOF fan page.

My favorite ELO song is "Mr. Blue Sky".

Posted by Sue on Sunday, 10/29/2017 @ 15:07pm

TRIUMPH deserves the opportunity to be celebrated in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Their first album in the late 1970's put TRIUMPH on the map and radio DJ's played their music in heavy rotation. The 80's were exploding and TRIUMPH was a HUGE part of that time! With strong anthems that still have radio play to this day like LAY IT ON THE LINE, MAGIC POWER, FOLLOW YOUR HEART, FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT...and countless others, TRIUMPH soared into the hearts of an entire generation and their positive message reigns powerful today! Rik Emmett is a masterful guitar artist who raised the bar for other guitarist with his lightning fast complex guitar solos and undeniable stage presence. And his vocals? Outstanding range!! Gil Moore's drumming and vocals offered a unique complexity of talent to this power trio, and Mike Levine rocked the bass cooler than anyone else, not to mention producing the vinyl behind the band. TRIUMPH lead the way in BIG stage production, with over-the-top pryo techniques and in-your-face lighting and laser effects never seen before on any stage! Triumph concerts were AMAZING! Millions of fans across Canada, the USA (and around the world)have cherished this rock trio for their gift to music and their celebration of rock and roll. TRIUMPH deserves to be nominated for their influential role in developing a style of rock'n'roll that should be celebrated and remembered.

Posted by Nancy Inch on Wednesday, 11/1/2017 @ 18:29pm

TRIUMPH deserves the opportunity to be celebrated in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Their first album in the late 1970's put TRIUMPH on the map and radio DJ's played their music in heavy rotation. The 80's were exploding and TRIUMPH was a HUGE part of that time! With strong anthems that still have radio play to this day like LAY IT ON THE LINE, MAGIC POWER, FOLLOW YOUR HEART, FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT...and countless others, TRIUMPH soared into the hearts of an entire generation and their positive message reigns powerful today! Rik Emmett is a masterful guitar artist who raised the bar for other guitarist with his lightning fast complex guitar solos and undeniable stage presence. And his vocals? Outstanding range!! Gil Moore's drumming and vocals offered a unique complexity of talent to this power trio, and Mike Levine rocked the bass cooler than anyone else, not to mention producing the vinyl behind the band. TRIUMPH lead the way in BIG stage production, with over-the-top pryo techniques and in-your-face lighting and laser effects never seen before on any stage! Triumph concerts were AMAZING! Millions of fans across Canada, the USA (and around the world)have cherished this rock trio for their gift to music and their celebration of rock and roll. TRIUMPH deserves to be nominated for their influential role in developing a style of rock'n'roll that should be celebrated and remembered.

Posted by Nancy Inch on Wednesday, 11/1/2017 @ 18:29pm

Should probably include Jelly Roll Morton's Red Hot Peppers too, since you're including the Early Influences.

Also, with the nomination of the Moody Blues, I'm wondering... if the Moodies are inducted, will Denny Laine be the first person to be twice snubbed from inducted outfits? I feel like some of the R&B groups that had members come and go throughout the years... can anyone else think of some potential twice snubbed people? The Denny Laine club... ouch.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11/22/2017 @ 23:54pm

I was looking to see who this year's Snubbed Members would be. Denny Laine was snubbed the first time because Paul McCartney was (understandably) inducted as a solo artists rather as the leader of Wings. Fair enough. Being snubbed the second time as a member of the Moody Blues is not so fair.

Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Wednesday, 12/13/2017 @ 15:48pm

Going all the way back to the inaugural class, you snubbed at least one Supreme who should have at least made the list of Snubbed Members. Jean Terell replaced Diana Ross in 1970, and of course she is no Diana Ross, but she was a notable diva in her own right who sang the lead on several unforgettable singles. After Terell left, there were also 2 more lead singers.

Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Wednesday, 12/13/2017 @ 15:57pm

Van Halen (2007)
Gary Cherone: Vocals, 1996-1999

Posted by DGU on Thursday, 12/14/2017 @ 12:22pm

The Band are an interesting case. They broke up in 1978 and were inducted in 1994. They have no Snubbed Members on this list. But 3 of the 5 original members resumed their recording career in the 1990s and made some pretty good records with a core of other musicians, who would have counted as "Snubbed Members" had the original quintet been inducted after the 1990s.

Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Saturday, 12/16/2017 @ 08:48am

While I'm happy to see the Hall trying to correct its errors (like inducting McDonald with Bon Jovi) but if you're going to induct Denny Laine with the Moodys, how do you ignore Clint Warwick? Frankly, I think the core five of Thomas-Pinder-Edge-Hayward-Lodge were all that was needed for the Moody Blues.

If they really wanted to induct Denny Laine, just do another retroactive backing group induction and have him get in with Wings. There's still a number of "backing" groups that can be added. But this all just seems par for the course with the Hall.

Posted by Steve Z on Friday, 12/22/2017 @ 14:03pm

Rick,

I want to thank you for your recent post on ELO.

You presented insight that I had not thought about and information I did not know.

I liked ELO very much in the early days and bought "Out of the Blue". I never had the chance to see them live.

I really did not keep up with them afterward. I had my daughter and life suddenly got very busy!

I am a BIG fan of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers so when the "The Traveling Wilburys" came out I rediscovered Jeff Lynne.

One of my favorite RRHOF jams is for "When my guitar gently weeps" the tribute to George Harrison. Tom and Jeff nail the vocal and Prince blows everyone away on guitar. Everyone should take a few minutes and watch the clip. First George then Prince and now Tom gone....

When ELO got the nomination for the RRHOF I actually got somewhat well displeased. I am as everyone here knows a huge Moody Blues fan and thought they deserved the nomination first. I got over my anger and actually voted for ELO on the RRHOF fan page.

My favorite ELO song is "Mr. Blue Sky".
Posted by Sue on Sunday, 10.29.17 @ 15:07pm


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Sue,

You're quite welcome, then thank you for your most kind words!

Although I like every Electric Light Orchestra album, my all-time favorite ELO song and album is "Hold on Tight" and Time, both from 1981 respectively.

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 12/26/2017 @ 20:30pm

Dire Straits - Terry Williams (Brothers in Arms)

Posted by Pablo Rodas on Wednesday, 01/3/2018 @ 20:48pm

BANDS WITH ONE MAJOR MEMBER SNUBBED
FOR INDUCTION BY THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN INDUCTED

01. Bruce Johnston (1988: The Beach Boys)
02. Cindy Birdsong (1988: The Supremes)
03. Sonny Turner (1990: The Platters)
04. Joe Long (1990: The Four Seasons)
05. John Perry Barlow (1994: The Grateful Dead)
06. Sandra Tilley (1995: Martha And The Vandellas)
07. Signe Toly Anderson (1996: Jefferson Airplane)
08. Bob Welch (1998: Fleetwood Mac)
09. Louis Tierney (1999: Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys)
10. Richie Ramone (2002: Ramones)
11. Mark Evans (2003: AC/DC)
12. Ric Grech (2004: Traffic)
13. Bill Isles (2005: The O’Jays)
14. Howie Johnson (2008: The Ventures)
15. Anthony Phillips (2010: Genesis)
16. Alonzo Tucker (2012: The Midnighters)
17. John Rutsey (2013: Rush)
18. Nick Simper (2016: Deep Purple)
19. Peter Banks (2017: Yes)
20. Clint Warwick (2018: The Moody Blues)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01/6/2018 @ 17:03pm

Bruce Johnston of The Beach Boys has been a member for 53 years thought he could of been inducted with them. He was on important records like Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. Produced 2 Beach Boy albums. You can't tell me he was an insignificant member who didn't contribute anything. ELO they are called Electric Light Orchestra and they didn't even induct the ORCHESTRA! or bassist Kelly Groucutt

Posted by Rob on Tuesday, 01/9/2018 @ 09:11am

I followed the Moody Blues from my youth in the 60's to present day. There are three distinct eras: Denny Lane; Core 7 with Mike Pinder; Post Core 7 with Patrick Moraz. Each era had a distinct musical feel and I like them all. With that said, I believe Patrick Moraz should be included in the HOF induction. His keyboard contributions were significant and it is the right thing to do.

Posted by OldDrummer55 on Tuesday, 01/9/2018 @ 10:02am

So Mick Jagger gets to tell Jann Wenner and the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame to induct Ian Stewart and Mick Taylor with the Rolling Stones, but the Beach Boys don't get to have Bruce Johnston inducted with them. I'm thinking the Beach Boys didn't bother to ask which members of their band are being inducted, but Mick Jagger took the effort and did! Really sucks for Bruce Johnston. Jann Wenner loves the 60s so much, you'd think he would make sure of it himself that Bruce Johnston is inducted!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/9/2018 @ 10:34am

I don't particularly like Bruce Johnston (political reasons, mostly) but he should have been inducted with The Beach Boys. Also Kelly Groucett not being inducted with ELO is BS.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/9/2018 @ 12:31pm

Dire Straits: Hal Lindes, Terry Williams, Jack Sonni

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 20:38pm

I think the committee that chooses which members of a band to induct thought Nick Simper was dead. I think they confused him with Peter Banks of Yes. Peter Banks is dead and wasn't inducted either.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 20:40pm

Roy, I think someone had mentioned that Williams, Sonni, and Lindes did not contribute much to Dire Straits' albums or were mostly replaced on the recordings. I'm not positive though.

Posted by Steve Z on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 20:57pm

While I agree Patrick Moraz should be inducted with the Moody Blues, the problem may be that the band no longer considers him an actual member but someone "for hire."

Posted by Rob Kranc on Friday, 02/16/2018 @ 23:03pm

JETHRO TULL? KING CRIMSON? EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER? DOOBIE BROTHERS? BLUE OYSTER CULT?

Far too many mediocre, at best, bands already enshrined. Also Disco, Country, etc. I don’t personally care for rap, but I do respect the attitude, which in agreement with Ice Cube, was at the heart of Rock and Roll in the earlier years.

But still, it is the Rock & Roll Hall, so why Madonna, Michael Jackson, etc. If sales is the measure, why not Bing Crosby or Frank Sinatra?

BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY DO NOT BELONG!!!!!

Perhaps other genres should have halls also, so many can be honored where they belong.

Posted by Jim Bjornsen on Tuesday, 05/22/2018 @ 01:38am

Personally, I feel, if someone is a founding member of a band; and played on 1 or more albums, that person should be inducted. Furthermore, if someone comes in as a replacement and is there for 5 or more years, they should be inducted. Then, if someone is a lyricist for a band but doesn't play, they should be inducted. These points seem like common sense to me. I give props to Kiss for not playing induction night, because of slights to band members. The process is flawed, deeply flawed. Who knows if anyone will care to change it. It's just sad that a lot of great musicians, writers and vocalists won't get their remembrance at the hall, while there are others that shouldn't have been honored in the first place. It's hard to swallow.

Posted by Gina Stephens on Sunday, 07/8/2018 @ 16:33pm

I have watched Emerson Lake and Palmer get passed over by the HOF that it's getting old. Emerson Lake and Palmer should have been recognized for their contribution to the world and changing history with their new sound a long time ago. With Keith and Greg gone, It's only fitting that the HOF recognize Emerson Lake and Palmer

Posted by dyanne klinko on Thursday, 09/6/2018 @ 23:16pm

I have watched Emerson Lake and Palmer get passed over by the HOF that it's getting old. Emerson Lake and Palmer should have been recognized for their contribution to the world and changing history with their new sound a long time ago. With Keith and Greg gone, It's only fitting that the HOF recognize Emerson Lake and Palmer

Posted by dyanne klinko on Thursday, 09/6/2018 @ 23:17pm

Fifi,

Just stop. It's not even funny as a Facebook meme.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 09/29/2018 @ 09:26am

Bret Michaels was never a member of The Beatles.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 09/29/2018 @ 13:01pm

hOW CAN THE COMMITTEE CONTINUE TO OMIT, IGNORE, SNUB, NEIL SEDAKA. HIS CAREER AND RESUME' ARE OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER AS A SINGER, PERFORMER AND SONG WRITER ( SOLITAIRE, HUNGRY YEARS, ETC.). HE CONTINUES TO SING, PERFORM AND WRITE TO THIS DAY.
ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PIONEERS OF ROCK AND ROLL.

Posted by C MURPHY on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 15:11pm

The Pretenders

Malcolm Foster (Bass, 1983-1986)
Blair Cunningham (Drums, 1986-1987)
T.M. Stevens (Bass, 1986-1987)
Bernie Worrell * (Keyboards, 1986-1987)
Adam Seymour (Guitar, 1993-2008)
Andy Hobson (Bass, 1994-2005)

Posted by ErnestIII on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 00:16am

MarkTesla,

With respect to both Kate Bush and Roxy Music, although neither had anything other than one Top 40 hit in America, both are incredibly influential.

One could easily credit Roxy Music as being the forerunners of much of the British invasion of the 80s in America, including Eurythmics, Duran Duran, Peter Gabriel, etcetera etcetera.

And Kate Bush? You can see Kate Bush's influence in Lorde, Tori Amos, Sia, Bjork, Fiona Apple, Florence and the Machine among others. When you have acts as diverse as Outkast and Dave Gilmour and Ozzy Osbourne being big Kate Bush fans, and you have Prince and Peter Gabriel and Elton John performing duets, you just know that something good is going to happen! Side Two of Hounds of Love (the side WITHOUT the English hits) is a side I would put up against Side 2 of Abbey Road and both sides of Dark Side of the Moon as the best single album side ever.

Posted by Eric Tompkins on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 05:55am

Are you serious? Who voted? Children? Some of these musicians are part of our history and some have changed the music industry, in one way or another. Shame...

Posted by Deborah on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 13:05pm

With Chicago there's other members as well, there's dawayne bailey guitar 1985-1994 Keith howland guitar 1994-present tris imboden drums 1990-2018 there's others that I may have missed, with kiss the main 3 are Bruce kulick, Vinnie Vincent, and Eric Carr. Although you could argue for Mark St. John he was an underrated guitarist.

Posted by Gio on Saturday, 11/10/2018 @ 19:14pm

While you might think Reeves is a snubbed member, The Cure has never recorded anything with him in the band other than his contribution to one track in 1997 when he was a guest musician. Even if they were to record an all new album at this time, it wouldn't be a significant contribution during the time prior to their induction. The other two members who were snubbed were Matthieu Hartley, although he only performed on one album, Seventeen Seconds, in 1980, it contains one of the Cure's most enduring songs amongst the fans, "A Forest", as well as multiple others that are live staples to this day. The other snubbed member would be Andy Anderson, who was a member in 1983 and 1984. He performed on the Lovecats single in 1983, a side project from Robert Smith called the Glove also in 1983, and the Cure album The Top in 1984, as well as most of the subsequent tour in 1984. Those are the actual 2 significant snubs, as they were members during the vital, most productive years of the band. The other people were a coupe of session musicians, one of whom (Phil Thornalley) did a tour as a bass player live. But they are not very worthy of induction, no as much as Matthieu and (especially) Andy are.

Posted by Gary on Saturday, 12/29/2018 @ 20:12pm

The Four Seasons connection is incomplete. Joe Long (1965-1975) of course. But Arranger Charlie Calello and Producer Bob Crewe also deserve to go in. Long is one of the greatest bassists in R&R. Crewe...holy crap what does a person have to do. Same with Calello. Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys also needs to be in. Bob Welch is another. Doobie Brothers, Sonny & Cher, Wings, Mark Lindsay, Neil Sedaka, Link Wray, Dick Dale and on and on. I agree with some other posts of how certain acts manage to get members inducted in while so many just as deserving can't.

Posted by Robert on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 16:40pm

I mean, who actually SUGGESTED reeves as a snubbed member of The Cure? I don't see that person here. There is no standing for it whatsoever. He's a live member, nothing more. Focus on the actual people who played on albums.

Posted by Gary on Saturday, 01/5/2019 @ 04:00am

Matthieu Hartley from The Cure, for sure. Even though he was only on 1 album (Seventeen Seconds), that was literally their breakthrough period. He co-wrote every track on that album. He also toured with them prior, during, and after the album. He also was briefly with them when they started their next album, Faith.

He was pretty integral to the group in regards to his keyboard playing. Took the band in a completely different direction. He barely gets remembered as is, so an induction would've been great closure.

Posted by Xan on Friday, 03/15/2019 @ 21:43pm

In another area of this group, there are bands snubbed and the number of years. There is one band not mentioned, at the time the biggest live concert band - Grand Funk

Posted by Jeff Okonski on Saturday, 04/27/2019 @ 00:10am

One other band in snubbed artists - Good amount of hits, lots of albums, still touring. Uriah Heep

Posted by Jeff Okonski on Saturday, 04/27/2019 @ 00:13am

John Gustafson is probably the biggest snubbed member in the history of the institution. It's not like they ignored that time period, either, since Eddie Jobson was inducted.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 05/14/2019 @ 17:11pm

No, that would be Ronnie James Dio. If anyone should be added in as a member years after the fact, it should be him instead of some random Blackheart.

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 05/14/2019 @ 18:23pm

But you can make the case for them having inducted the "classice lineup" for Black Sabbath.

The "classic" lineup for Roxy Music undoubtedly includes Gustafson being there for a lot of their best work (and NOT as part of the revitalized band for that final trio of records). It's like if Jeff Ament had joined Pearl Jam for their second album, left after the Yield LP, and then was snubbed.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 05/14/2019 @ 18:33pm

I visited the hall last week and got to yaking with some informative folks that worked there. I was falsely under the impression that inductee's were required to provide some memorabilia. I'm a huge Bob Dylan from the beginning and just his signature on the induction wall and a 2 second spot in "The Power Of Rock" film left me somewhat empty. Change the requirement. Were it not for the fans, they wouldn't be there. Give back as we have given to them $$$$$$$

Posted by Michael Frechette on Tuesday, 06/4/2019 @ 14:11pm

Where is Michael Ronson the key influencer, (musician, arranger and producer) for David Bowie, Transformer album (Lou Reed), Elton John, Dylan, John Mellencamp, Ian Hunter, Mott the Hoople, his own solo albums etc. Let's get it together this man should be inducted. Postumously.

Posted by Germaine Valentine on Wednesday, 06/12/2019 @ 22:12pm

What?? Paul Rogers and/or Bad Co!
What's wrong with you people?

Burton Cummings and The Guess Who!

Who's doing the voting for these inductions?

Posted by Kimberly Alexander on Thursday, 08/8/2019 @ 18:40pm

Lot's of mentions of the Great Mick Ronson here and sos there should be.However not one person has mentioned the late great Rory Gallagher.Absolutely brilliant blues rock guitarist and amazing live performer.

Posted by Steve on Monday, 08/26/2019 @ 20:07pm

Leon Patillo (1973-1979) should be included as a snubbed member of Santana, in my opinion.

Posted by ken milhous on Thursday, 09/19/2019 @ 17:03pm

styx, 4 platinum albums in a row??
jethro tull music creativity
beach boys- beginnings

Posted by rick thomsen on Wednesday, 10/16/2019 @ 14:21pm

The people behind the R&R HoF are elitist douches, most particularly Jan Wenner (sp?).

Half the groups in have no connection to real R&R and are just politically correct.

25% of the R&R Bands that are in are their because they are vocal lefties and kissed Wenner's fat bi-ass.

Leaving only 25% legitimate inductees.

Foreigner and Bad Company, are 2 groups that lead popular R&R from from the 70's to the 80's. How the f... are bubble-gum rock bands like Def Leopard and Bon Jovi in the HoF an not these two others. And don't get me started on MC-5!

Posted by demetrius on Sunday, 10/20/2019 @ 01:01am

DIO has his own Black Sabbath era
Denny Laine was core of (Wings) hate if you want
Kelly Grochutt was the 2nd voice and Bass player for ELOs hit years. Also Elton Johns entire band and Bernie. All deserve to be at least noted.

Posted by Marty on Saturday, 11/30/2019 @ 09:08am

I've heard much a do about Harry Nilsson's absence from inclusion into R&R Hall . He wrote many great songs ,influenced some great musicians of his time most famously Beatle members but I'm wondering if his refusal to tour himself or with some talented player's,Peter Frampton , Nicky Hopkins, Bobby Keys to name a couple, was or is considered a strike against his nomination ? Just wondering the reasoning for this decision ? Personally I think he's deserving of nomination at least but even induction would be a well deserved , just MHO...! OK then...

Posted by Mark D. Spiegler on Thursday, 12/12/2019 @ 16:53pm

America(The Band). Longevity of concert popularity. Positive message with still pitch perfect harmonies. Long list of hit

Posted by john r downey on Saturday, 12/21/2019 @ 08:35am

Jethro Tull needs to be there

Posted by RC on Tuesday, 01/7/2020 @ 17:03pm

What does it take for Emerson Lake & Palmer to be inducted.Sold over 40 million albums . Keith Emerson single handley put the Moog from a studio instrument to the stage . on top of being the GREATEST KEYBOARD player to ever get on a stage ,Greg Lake was an excellent producer & vocalist. Carl Palmer is in the top 5 Drummers, percussionist extraordinaire. And this is beside the fact the people who run your just plain HATE them you need fresh blood in your organization u hv turned into a bunch of SNOBS.

Posted by C.Sanacore on Sunday, 01/12/2020 @ 20:22pm

And with the 2020 Inductees, comes some official snubbed members. I think the HoF actually did a pretty great job with which members got in with either Depeche Mode or The Doobie Brothers.

For T. Rex, there's Steve Peregrin Took, who was (the only) founding member besides Marc Bolan on those first three albums. Then there's Davy Lutton, Dino Dines, and Gloria Jones all were members on the final three T. Rex albums. Nine Inch Nails is a bit of a more complicated situation, but one could make an argument for Danny Lohner, Chris Vrenna, Robin Finck, Alessandro Cortini, or Atticus Ross.

Posted by Steve Z on Wednesday, 01/15/2020 @ 09:13am

Not one mention of "Little Feat". Who could blow most of these bands off the stage.
About 30% of bands in the hall just suck!

Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 04/22/2020 @ 23:20pm

Another snubbed Snubbed Member:bassist & vocalist CJ Ramone of the Ramones. He was Dee Dee's replacement & also sang several leads.

Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Friday, 07/3/2020 @ 15:37pm

For NIN, I think it's righteous that the Hall added in Cortini, Vrenna, Lohner, Finck, and Ross. But, as already listed, Charlie Clouser got snubbed for sure, as did Jerome Dillon (drummer). Both of those guys contributed to albums, and toured. They were in the band for the same amount of time (roughly) Lohner was. A case could also be made for James Woolley, whom stuck with NIN for almost 4 years, and was with them at their initial peak (especially Woodstock '94). Finally, Richard Patrick maybe, too. He was NIN's first guitarist, stuck around for 4 years, and was crucial to their evolved live form.

Also, I still suggest adding Matt Hartley to The Cure. He was on their breakthrough album, co-writing every track, and being the band's first keyboardist, he evolved their sound greatly. Also did multiple tours, some of them The Cure's first as headliners. The other 2 Cure members that didn't get inducted, Andy Anderson and Phill Thornalley, didn't leave a big footprint like Hartley did.

Posted by Xan on Saturday, 10/10/2020 @ 23:21pm

I think Jason Schiff from Chicago definitely should have been inducted with them. He took over for Peter Cetera when he left which wasn't amicable and was in the group for 20 years. I wouldn't be surprised if that is part the reason he left the group even though he performed with them during their induction. As for the future I thought it was a total joke that Pat Benatar did not get in and I would like to see Rick James get in. He had longevity and had a lot signature songs and had about 12 albums. the same goes for Lenny Kravitz he has songs and longevity. Hopefully, he will get in. The fact that The Notorious B.I.G. got with only 2 albums doesn't seem warranted. If they wanted to put a rapper they should have put in LL Cool J he at lest has longevity and had some good songs in the late 80's early 90's. The fact that groups like Chicago, The Doobie Brothers, Journey and Def Leppard had to wait so long makes no sense at all.

Posted by Kenneth Custeau on Saturday, 12/19/2020 @ 20:57pm

Denny Diaz hired Walter Becker and Donald Fagan. Denny played many great songs and solos, including the searing guitar in Aja

Posted by Thomas Struska on Sunday, 01/17/2021 @ 01:57am

Here's one nobody mentions as far as bands that deserve to be in the HOF.

Mother's Finest

Posted by Fin on Saturday, 02/6/2021 @ 21:02pm

@Xan - Andy Anderson did tours, played on The Top and Lovecats and any live drums on The Glove, also was the drummer for Concert as well as the video released in Japan called Live in Japan. Matthieu played on the Cult Hero single and 17 Seconds, and didn't even finish out all the shows of 1980. I think both should be included and Thornalley left out, he only played bass on Lovecats and on Concert, and produced Pornography which is hardly enough to merit comparison to those two, but Anderson made the largest contribution overall.

Posted by eboe on Friday, 03/26/2021 @ 01:00am

As far as Steely Dan goes, anyone who claims that Denny Dias, Skunk Baxter, and Jim Hodder do not deserve to be inducted, simply do not realize that they were full-fledged members of the band for their first few albums, and in the case of Denny and Skunk, also came back as session musicians later, so they were both integral to the history of Steely Dan.

Posted by eboe on Friday, 03/26/2021 @ 01:06am

Also, WTF actually HAPPENED to the listing for The Cure? There had been one, and it has been removed. Ridiculous.

Posted by eboe on Friday, 03/26/2021 @ 01:07am

I sure hope that the former drummer from Blink-182 doesn't get done raw like Chad and John from Nirvana and Rush. Or Dave and Jack from Pearl Jam. After all, I just saw that they inducted 16 members for Parliment-Funkadelic. And if they try to say "well that was technically 2 different bands", then WHY ARE JOY DIVISION AND NEW ORDER NOT IN YET???

Posted by eboe on Friday, 03/26/2021 @ 01:13am

George Austin Robertson Jr (Austin Roberts) wasn't even considered for induction and was eligible in 1997 due to his 1972 release "Something's Wrong With Me"

Posted by James Cressey on Saturday, 06/26/2021 @ 16:01pm

Please induct the B52s already!!

Posted by Nol on Friday, 08/20/2021 @ 01:02am

Snubbed Members Parliament-Funkadelic:
Lucious "Tawl" Ross, Tyrone "Ty" Lampkin, Ron Bykowski, DeWayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight, Maceo Parker, Gary "Mudbone" Cooper, Fred Wesley

to consider
Debbie Wright, Jeanette Washington, Mallia Franklin, Phelps Collins

Posted by Alejandro Rodas on Tuesday, 05/24/2022 @ 16:22pm

Snubbed Members:
1987 The Coasters - Leon Hughes, Bobby Nunn, Adolph Jacobs, Albert "Sonny" Forriest
1988 The Beach Boys - Bruce Johnston, David Marks
unlikely Blondie Chaplin, Ricky Fataar
1988 The Drifters - Andrew Thrasher, Jimmy Oliver, Tommy Evans, Dock Green, Abdul Samad ,
Eugene Pearson unlikely Elsbeary Hobbs
1988 The Supremes - Cindy Birdsong
unlikely Jean Terrell, Scherrie Payne, Susaye Greene
1989 The Temptations - Damon Harris, Richard Street
1989 The Ink Spots - Billy Bowen, Herb Kenny, Adriel McDonald
1989 The Soul Stirrers - James H. Medlock, T.L. Bruster, Sam Cooke, Paul Foster, Bob King, Johnnie Taylor
1990 The Kinks - John Dalton, John Gosling
unlikely Jim Rodford, Ian Gibbons, Bob Henrit
1990 The Who - Kenney Jones
1990 The Four Seasons - Joe Long
unlikely John Paiva, Don Ciccone, Lee Shapiro, Gerry Polci
1990 The Platters - Sonny Turner
unlikely Nate Nelson, Barbara Randolph, Sandra Dawn, Duke Daniels, James Austin, Jr.,
Milton Bullock
1991 The Byrds - Gene Parsons, Clarence White, Skip Battin, John York
1991 The Impressions - unlikely Leroy Hutson, Ralph Johnson, Reggie Torian, Nate Evans
1993 Sly & The Family Stone - Rustee Allen, Pat Rizzo, Vet Stone, Mary McCreary, Elva Mouton
unlikely Elva Mouton
1994 Grateful Dead - John Perry Barlow
1995 The Allman Brothers Band - Chuck Leavell, Lamar Williams, Dan Toler, David Goldflies, Warren
Haynes, Allen Woody, Marc Quiñones
1995 Martha & The Vandellas - Sandra Tilley
1996 Jefferson Airplane - Signe Toly Anderson, Papa John Creach
1996 The Velvet Underground - Doug Yule
1996 Gladys Knight & The Pips - Langston George
1997 Crosby, Stills & Nash - Neil Young
1997 Parliament - Funkadelic - Lucious "Tawl" Ross, Tyrone "Ty" Lampkin, Ron Bykowski, DeWayne
"Blackbyrd" McKnight, Maceo Parker, Gary "Mudbone" Cooper, Fred Wesley
unlikely Debbie Wright, Jeanette Washington, Mallia Franklin, Phelps Collins
1997 Bee Gees - Colin Petersen, Vince Melouney
unlikely Geoff Bridgford
1997 The Jackson 5 - Randy Jackson
1998 Fleetwood Mac - Bob Welch
unlikely Billy Burnette, Bob Weston
1998 Santana - Neal Schon, Armando Peraza, Raul Rekow, Greg Walker, Alex Ligertwood, Tom
Coster, Chester D. Thompson, David Margen, Graham Lear, Orestes Vilató
unlikely Chris Solberg, Rico Reyes, Richard Baker, Doug Rauch, Alphonso Johnson,
Benny Rietveld, Leon "Ndugu" Chancler, Walfredo Reyes
1999 Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys - Louis Tierney
2000 The Lovin' Spoonful - Jerry Yester
2000 Earth, Wind & Fire - Roland Bautista
unlikely Sherry Scott, Jessica Cleaves, Chester Washington, Leslie Drayton, Alexander
Thomas, Michael Beal, Dick Smith, Sheldon Reynolds, Don Whitehead, Wade Flemons,
Vance Taylor, Mike McKnight, Morris Pleasure, Sonny Emory, Yackov Ben Israel
2001 Steely Dan - Denny Dias, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, Jim Hodder, David Palmer
2002 Ramones - Richie Ramone, C. J. Ramone
2002 Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Scott Thurston, Steve Ferrone
2003 AC/DC - Mark Evans, Simon Wright
2004 Traffic - Ric Grech, Rebop Kwaku Baah
2005 Pretenders - Robbie McIntosh, Blair Cunningham, Adam Seymour, Andy Hobson, Zeben
Jameson
2005 The O'Jays - Bill Isles
2006 Black Sabbath - Ronnie James Dio, Geoff Nicholls, Tony Martin, Cozy Powell
unlikely Neil Murray, Vinny Appice
2006 Blondie - unlikely Leigh Foxx, Paul Carbonara
2006 Lynyrd Skynyrd - Johnny Van Zant, Rickey Medlocke
unlikely Randall Hall, Hughie Thomasson, Owen Hale, Michael Cartellone
2007 Patti Smith - Lenny Kaye, Jay Dee Daugherty, Richard Sohl, Ivan Kral
unlikely Oliver Ray, Tony Shanahan
2008 The Ventures - Howie Johnson, John Durrill
unlikely Joe Barile, Dave Carr, Biff Vincent
2010 Genesis - Anthony Phillips
unlikely Daryl Stuermer, Chester Thompson
2010 The Stooges - Steve Mackay
2012 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Jack Sherman
2012 Small Faces - Rick Wills
2012 The Midnighters - Alonzo Tucker
2012 The Crickets - Jerry Naylor, Glen Hardin
unlikely Gordon Payne
2012 The Miracles - Billy Griffin
unlikely Donald Griffin
2013 Heart - Mark Andes, Denny Carmassi
unlikely Craig Bartock, Debbie Shair, Ben Smith
2013 Rush - John Rutsey
2013 Public Enemy - unlikely DJ Lord
2014 KISS - Bruce Kulick, Eric Carr, Eric Singer, Tommy Thayer, Vinnie Vincent
2014 Nirvana - Chad Channing
2015 Green Day - John Kiffmeyer
2015 Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - Thommy Price, Kasim Sulton, Dougie Needles
2015 The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - Bugsy Maugh, Phil Wilson, Gene Dinwiddle, David Sanborn,
Keith Johnson, Rod Hicks, Trevor Lawrence, Steve Madaio
2016 Cheap Trick - Jon Brant
2016 Chicago - Laudir de Oliveira, Donnie Dacus, Chris Pinnick, Bill Champlin, Jason Scheff,
Dawayne Bailey, Keith Howland, Tris Imboden
2016 Deep Purple - Nick Simper, Steve Morse, Don Airey
2016 Steve Miller (Steve Miller Band) - Lonnie Turner, Tim Davis, Jim Peterman, Boz Scaggs, Ben
Sidran, Gerald Johnson, Jack King, Kenny Lee Lewis, Gary Mallaber, Byron Allred,
Norton Buffalo, Dick Thompson
unlikely Billy Peterson, Gordy Knudtson, Joseph Wooten
2016 N.W.A - Arabian Prince
2017 Electric Light Orchestra - Hugh McDowell, Mike de Albuquerque, Mike Edwards, Mik Kaminski,
Kelly Groucutt, Melvyn Gale, Wilfred Gibson, Louis Clark, Colin Walker
2017 Journey - George Tickner
unlikely Deen Castronovo, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda
2017 Pearl Jam - Dave Abbruzzese, Jack Irons
2017 Yes - Peter Banks
unlikely Billy Sherwood, Geoff Downes
2018 The Moody Blues - Clint Warwick, Patrick Moraz
2018 Dire Straits - Hal Lindes
2019 Roxy Music - John Gustafson
2019 The Cure - Matthieu Hartley
2020 T. Rex - Steve Peregrin Took, Gloria Jones, Dino Dines, Davey Lutton
2020 Nine Inch Nails - Charlie Clouser, Josh Freese, Richard Patrick, Jerome Dillon, James Woolley
2020 The Doobie Brothers - Dave Shogren, Bobby LaKind
2022 Judas Priest - Richie Faulkner

Posted by Alejandro Rodas on Tuesday, 05/24/2022 @ 21:47pm

I think the members of the Jeff Beck Group should be considered as snubbed members, or perhaps listed with the backup groups that were not included.

Posted by Kenmil on Saturday, 07/16/2022 @ 19:45pm

Good List Alejandro, except for Judas Priest. Add Tim Ripper Owen if you are going to add Richie. Without Tim there would be no reformed Priest for the jealous Rob Halford to fight to rejoin!

Posted by PMGK on Tuesday, 09/6/2022 @ 19:59pm

Thanks PMGK, do you think that if Iron Maiden succeeds, it will be the same case with Blaze Bayley, with Tim Tipper Owen and his non-induction

Posted by Alejandro Rodas on Friday, 09/23/2022 @ 20:03pm

I don't see how Gilby Clark wasn't inducted. He was a great player

Posted by Blake on Thursday, 02/2/2023 @ 16:39pm

I'd argue for a few additions:
-Andre Cymone, bassist with Prince and The Revolution from 1979-81 and a key figure in Prince's early career.
-Rebop Kwaku Baah, percussionist with Traffic from 1971-74 (also making him the longest lasting member outside of the original four)
-Jim Gordon, drummer with Traffic from 1970-72 (if we're including Ric Grech, we might as well include Gordon, who was in the band at the exact same time as Grech)
-Ray Cooper, percussionist with Elton John from 1973–1977, 1979, 1985–1987, 1993–1995, 2009–2012, and since 2016

Also an asterisk to Kenney Jones and Jeff "Skunk" Baxter's names as they are currently inducted with other bands.

Posted by Zoot Marimba on Sunday, 02/12/2023 @ 20:27pm

The Spinners

Posted by Pablo Alejandro on Thursday, 05/4/2023 @ 13:38pm

Tim "Ripper" Owens, former lead singer for Judas Priest. If it were not for him the band disappears off the Earth for a decade. Worst snub ever. HOF is shitty.

Posted by Paul Whittington on Thursday, 08/24/2023 @ 14:38pm

Why Aren't THE COMMODORES listed here under snubbed members?
They ALL got snubbed when Richie got in alone .
And Smokey should get a SECOND INDUCTION..this time as a member of THE MIRACLES.
A Solo induction for him should've NEVER HAPPENED until he got in with THE MIRACLES first. His FIRST, and Earliest successes were as a member of
THE MIRACLES…no matter WHAT he did as a SOLO artist.
Michael Jackson, Curtis Mayfield, Clyde McPhatter, Tina Turner, and EACH INDIVIDUAL BEATLE are in solo…and with their GROUPS.
WHY isn't Smokey inducted WITH The MIRACLES??
There is NO ONE HERE that can rightfully say that he doesn't deserve to be a DOUBLE INDUCTEE.
HOW ABOUT IT , HOF ?

Posted by Bill G on Thursday, 09/21/2023 @ 08:12am

G. C. Cameron - The Spinners

Posted by Alejandro Rodas on Tuesday, 11/7/2023 @ 05:33am

Had no idea Jason Scheff was snubbed from Chicago's induction. Never mind that he sang lead on some of the group's biggest hits in the 1980s (I know, not their best era, but still...) and that he was Chicago's longest-running vocalist to this day, though he is now no longer in the band. Apparently he is now with the Blue Oyster Cult

Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 03/7/2024 @ 21:55pm

I have no idea who told Jason Voight that Jason Scheff is with Blue Oyster Cult now but it's not true.


On a more relevant topic, the Sabbath and ELO subs are farcical.

Posted by Cherry on Wednesday, 04/24/2024 @ 21:32pm

I'm still scratching my head as to WHY SMOKEY ROBINSON has not been inducted with THE MIRACLES
…and JAMES BROWN has not been included with THE FAMOUS FLAMES. Both of these men were actually MEMBERS of these groups…and BOTH of them found fame WITH those groups…FIRST.
To not include them with the GROUPS with which they first found fame and success is a gross distortion of HISTORY..and I don't think that many people wouldn't say that BOTH artists deserve to be honored as DOUBLE INDUCTEES .
I don't think that the HoF should pick and choose SOME artists to be inducted TWICE…while OTHER DESERVING artists should NOT. After all , CURTIS MAYFIELD, MICHAEL JACKSON, CLYDE McPHATTER , SAMMY STRAIN, and JOHNNY CARTER are all inducted twice ((not to mention each individual BEATLE…) and the SOLO CAREERS of JAMES BROWN. and SMOKEY ROBINSON are separate and distinct from their careers as GROUP MEMBERS…and BOTH were members of their GROUPS long BEFORE their subsequent SOLO careers…(after all, why are so many trying to get DIANA ROSS inducted again?) SAME PRINCIPLE.
And NOW are they going to induct Lionel Richie AGAIN…with THE COMMODORES? and CHAKA KHAN with RUFUS ? Or is the Hall of Fame just going to distort history AGAIN , by just THROWING THE GROUPS AWAY ?
And will SONNY BONO EVER BE INDUCTED? or will his name and legacy just be DELETED ?

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has a practice and history of CREATING their OWN CONTROVERSIES !!

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 09:18am

Bill G:

Smokey Robinson was inducted in the second class of the R&R HoF in 1987 (and is, actually, the last surviving performer member of that class), and James Brown in the first class in 1986. Almost two decades later, the powers that be at the Hall decided they were wrong to not include the bands that backed Robinson, Brown, and several others. So, in 2004 they specifically inducted the backing bands (the Miracles, the Famous Flames, etc.) to accompany the original, already-inducted lead singers. Most of these lead singers didn't have success as solo acts, so it probably wouldn't have been appropriate to add them as two-time inductees. I hope this answers your question.

Posted by Joe S. on Friday, 04/26/2024 @ 11:42am