What does it take to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Criteria

Figuring out what it takes to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seems like an impossible task when looking at the diversity of the artists who are already enshrined. What do they all have in common? What criteria did the Rock Hall Nominating Committee apply when putting together the ballots? There's no easy answer, especially when it comes to something as emotionally charged as music and when the biases of those in charge come into play.

Here are a few passages about the criteria from the Rock Hall's own website:

Leaders in the music industry joined together in 1983 to establish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. One of the Foundation’s many functions is to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll by inducting them into the Hall of Fame.
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

Terry Stewart, the President of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and Museum (and Nominating Committee member), expands upon that criteria in the letter he sends to fans who seek induction of their favorite artist [Update: Read Stewart's latest letter here.]

Nomination and induction into the Hall of Fame is not about popularity, records sales, which label the group is on, or anything other than the process below. The love for, the evaluation of, and the impact of any artist are subjective questions to be answered by the nominators and the voters. Unlike baseball, football, basketball or hockey, statistics are not relevant. Please read below:
The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. Individuals can be inducted in four categories: Performer, Early Influence, Non-Performer and Side-Men. The only formal criteria for the performance category is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate standards for evaluation.

So what do you think the criteria for induction should be? If you were on the Nominating Committee would you be able to set aside your personal taste in evaluating the worthiness of various artists? Should you?

This is the place for you to state the criteria you would use to create the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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Posted by Gary on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 19:53pm

The Velvets, Stooges, Ramones, Clash, Staples (odd you'd include them with a bunch of punk and hip-hop groups), Beasties and P.E. are better and more influential than the vanilla groups you've mentioned. Have fun listening to your radio, Gary.

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 20:48pm

The Hall of Fame has gotten so ridiculous in the past 10 years. When you put the Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, etc in before groups such as Chicago, Kiss, even the Carpenters and especially JIM CROCE. Something is wrong. There were so many groups so more deserving before so many of those groups, individuals. Staple Singers, come on. The Stylistics and the Spinners should have been in there first.
60's groups The Turtles, The Grass Roots,Gary Puckett and the Union Gap and Paul Revere and the Raiders should have been in there before so many.
70's groups,Kiss, Styx, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon,Steve Miller Band, the Commodores are so deserving before so many of those placed in the Hall.
The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, The Ramones, The Clash, Staple Singers, etc have no business being in there before the groups mentioned.
Hopefully one of these days the Hall will get it right.

Posted by Gary on Sunday, 01.6.13 @ 19:53pm
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I'm kinda yes, & kinda no, regarding what you're saying here.

Plenty of good arguments can be made about Chicago, Foreigner, Steve Miller, etc., that I can't say I blame you for being a tad miffed.

On the other hand, to go out & get all riled up over the Stooges, Ramones, Velvets, etc. is foolish, as they most definitely belong. Rock in general tended to follow that line in the 80's and 90's, so why jump on their case?

You're right when you say that hopefully one day the Hall will get it right, but in some of these cases, the Hall did get it right the first time round. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 06:31am

what morons pick the inductees. how could Chicago, Three Dog Night, Neil sedaka not be inducted

Posted by Dave Hayes on Monday, 01/14/2013 @ 13:27pm

I would add the skill of trying new genres and the skill of communication with the public,the involvement...

Posted by elisabetta on Saturday, 01/19/2013 @ 12:32pm

Does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have a rule that states that if an artist is nominated a certain number of times without getting enough votes, that artist will receive an automatic induction if he or she fails to get enough votes the last time they are nominated. What should the criteria be....

I say, that after being nominated 12 times without getting enough votes for induction, you should receive automatic induction because clearly there are people who really want you inducted. Chic is getting close to a 12th nomination, but maybe it will not go that far.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 01/21/2013 @ 14:04pm

7 Nominations for Chic
6 Nominations for Chuck Willis
4 Nominations for Joe Tex
3 Nominations for Ben E. King
3 Nominations for Gram Parsons
3 Nominations for The J. Geils Band

Posted by Roy on Monday, 01/21/2013 @ 14:12pm

I would cast my ballot for Three Dog Night. There is a song on the Coming Down Your Way album written by Jeff Barry that displays great passion in how Chuck, Cory, & Danny sing. Too bad When It's Over was never released as a single. They probably would have been inducted by now if it had.

Posted by Gina Fox on Sunday, 01/27/2013 @ 19:48pm

Why is Steve Miller not a member of the Hall of Fame?

Posted by Linda Harp on Saturday, 02/9/2013 @ 22:31pm

Based on the criteria, Link Wray should be in the hall of fame!!! Emerson Lake & Palmer and Captain Beefheart should be in too! These and several other artist have been much more influential, innovative,and creative than a lot of artists that have been voted in. The Hall of Fame to me is a joke!

Posted by Tom F on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 11:59am

Yeah, the hall's done crap on prog.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 12:12pm

Styx, The Monkees, Weird Al Yankovic, Gram Parsons, MC5 & Hermans Hermits will be inducted before Captain Beefheart.

Poor Frank Zappa is long dead & cannot advocate for him.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 15:02pm

Parsons and MC5 belong in that conversation with CB. If Styx Weird Al or the Monkees get in at all, none of our opinions can overcome the fail, anyway.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 16:35pm

Parsons and MC5 belong in that conversation with CB. If Styx Weird Al or the Monkees get in at all, none of our opinions can overcome the fail, anyway.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 02.25.13 @ 16:35pm
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I humbly disagree. I'll pass on Styx, since I could never get into them, but we differ on Weird Al & the Monkees.

I already wrote on the Monkees page that it was still quite common in the 60's for artists not to write their own material, & that many high-end "artists" in fact have outsiders penning their own work. Everybody knows about session men on the recordings back then, & a lot of Hall inductees have session guys on their tracks. Remove those two things, & I fail to see where the line between the Monkees &, say, the Dave Clark Five, or even the Kinks (hello guitarist Jimmy Page) or even Cream (hello outside lyricist Pete Brown) emerges.

In the case of Weird Al, the Hall just simply needs to lighten up. In addition, it would help to remind them that for all the goo-goo eyes they make over their favorite 50's & 60's acts who have track records that last maybe 5 yrs. at the most, Al has been around for over 30 yrs. Some of those acts get in because of nostalgia only. It's interesting, but these folks have forgotten that Al is equally loved by hordes of fans later down the line.

I agree w/all the Posters on the MC5, & you all know my previous push for Link Wray. As for CB, I'll quietly pass.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 06:02am

DarinRG, IMO, all the bands/acts I listed are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Captain Beefheart.

Only when all of them have been inducted (say by 2145), will the Hall take a look at Captain Beefheart.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 07:12am

wow what a joke the hall is without such groundbreaking and influencial bands as moody blues,jethro tull,yes,judas priest,iron maiden,kiss,bad company, journey and deep purple

Posted by arthur jones on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 17:51pm

So, Arthur, who would you consider to be major snubs outside of 70s hard rock and metal? There are plenty of them. Using the word "joke" and throwing out an Eddie Trunk list won't really get you taken seriously.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 18:34pm

I would like to know why George Thorogood has not been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

George is a Rock Icon ! Songs like Bad to the Bone, Who do you Love and many more. His Songs are Time less. And George is still on tour over 35 years. George should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Thank You.

Posted by Richard on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 08:46am

The myth:

Leaders in the music industry joined together in 1983 to establish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. One of the Foundationâ€™s many functions is to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll by inducting them into the Hall of Fame.
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artistsâ€™ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

If only that basis of entry were true!

If there was no bias and sales are not an issue why on earth are Suzi Quattro, Dire Straits and as a solo artist Mark Knopfler not inducted?

It is a mystery to me other than bias against these artists, one because he is a British Jewish northerner and the other who had to leave the US, like Hendrix, who made it big in the UK and paved the way for the likes of Joan Jett, Jennifer Baten and so many others.

Sadly, I do not think Terry Stewart's premise above is true.

Posted by Pat Robins on Sunday, 04/7/2013 @ 06:15am

If there was no bias and sales are not an issue why on earth are Suzi Quattro, Dire Straits and as a solo artist Mark Knopfler not inducted?

It is a mystery to me other than bias against these artists

etc. etc.

Posted by Pat Robins on Sunday, 04.7.13 @ 06:15am
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You can make this same argument about a lot of other artists as well.

I'll give you Dire Straits, who have a fine catalog to work with. Suzi Quatro's a bit weak, but there's a case of sorts to be made.

Knopfler solo can fall alongside any one of a bunch of artists, all of whom can claim a basic solo career for induction. Not a knock, but what's really so distinctive about his solo work?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 04/7/2013 @ 06:32am

If it's all based on Innovation or Influence then change the name ...it shouldn't be the "Hall of Fame"...it should be the "Museum of Music Innovators/Influence". Fame means the condition of being kwown(famous)by many people for notable achievements. Influence and innovation should be a part but longevity, achievements (album sales, hit records,popularity and concert draw)and music ability should all factor in greatly! It may not be your(commitee members)personal taste in music but great artists/bands shouldn't be shunned because a "committee" feels they didn't invent or influence anyone....that's crazy!!!

Posted by GW on Wednesday, 04/24/2013 @ 16:30pm

No really, GW. If commercial success was a major criteria, then they probably wouldn't even have a 25-year criteria before eligibility. Even then, some acts maintain a certain level of popularity, but never are really regarded as highly as some other acts. Plus, there are some who would be regarded as legends, not in the Hall of Fame, but who aren't necessarily thought of as *great* artists.

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 04/24/2013 @ 18:19pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20060916172227/http://www.futurerockhall.com/

The old Future Rock Hall site on the Way Back Machine

Posted by Robert on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 10:24am

Robert- Thanks for the memories. I wish we could still call people f*ucktards. I'd wear that word out.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 10:35am

That's awesome. The site turned seven years old last month. Nice to see how far it has come (and how little has changed).

Posted by FRL on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 10:50am

On the nostalgia tip, If we ever had an FRL HoF, Gassman would be my first pick. His ideas for Revisited/Projected, as well as the Album and Song Projects really transformed this site into a destination point for many people (myself included).

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 11:11am

I also have to say that Mr. FRL is the coolest mod ever. He lets the inmates run and police the asylum. We've had voting controversies before and he's been Johnny on the spot with relevant facts, but left judgment up to us. And the only time I've seen him chastise a poster it involved expression of death wishes or plagiarism.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 11:31am

You should put a link to the old FRH on the left sidebar of this site.

Posted by Robert on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 11:41am

I'd totally vote Gass into a FRL HOF, guys a boss.
I imagine I wouldn't get many votes cos i'm a little shit :p

oh yeah TrekkiELO, "Strange Weird Little Man"? i swer to god m8 i will fuk u up u pussio

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 12:04pm

I'd vote for you GFW, after I'm in, junior. I'd vote for Rick, too. You can't have an FRL HoF without Rick Vendl II.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 12:16pm

Oh I'd TOTES vote u.

Also rick was mean to me on another site D:

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 12:35pm

Well, you abstained from voting for ELO for two rounds, you creepy little bastard.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04/29/2013 @ 13:01pm

How about Gene Pitney as well as Paul Rever and the Raiders. I mean after all Randy Newman is in??? What a joke!!

Posted by Denny on Thursday, 05/2/2013 @ 15:24pm

This is my wtf list, because these groups/individuals deserve to be in as much as Public Enemy...
War
The Spinners
Mary Wells
The Moody Blues
Chicago
Deep Purple

These have been eligible for over 20 years and they should be in. These are rock

Posted by Becca on Sunday, 05/19/2013 @ 14:49pm

LOL. So, I guess today is "Public Enemy is the Low Bar" Day. Whining about Madonna, Prince or ABBA is just soooo yesterday.

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 05/19/2013 @ 15:14pm

T.REX and Marc Bolan not ever nominated wtf. One of the most influential artists ever( think Bowie). 2014 please.

Posted by Adam on Thursday, 05/23/2013 @ 08:23am

NO DAMN RAP CRAP !

Posted by Robb Jahke on Sunday, 05/26/2013 @ 17:19pm

Hey, Robb, in reading your comment on how the Hall of Fame shouldn't have any rap artists inducted? I must ask why do you think that?

Posted by Andrew on Monday, 05/27/2013 @ 18:00pm

OK, if album sales and concert sales and hits don't matter, then isn't the Hall of Fame being extremely counter productive to the music industry? Is a label going to sign an artist who can't sell any records or get any radio air time. They say that they are not like any sports HOF's, but come on! If you don't use some type of popularity then you discredit all the Rock and Roll fans! You also open yourself up to criticism by having a we can do want we want approach to who we select. You can't pick Steely Dan and say no to STYX, ELO, Foreigner, Pat Benatar, Boston, etc. It makes the Hall of Fame look foolish and come off as a ego maniacal douche bag. It's obvious that the Hall doesn't go after mainstream, or corporate rock no matter how good. The Ramones may have been somewhat influential, but in reality they were not the best musicians or vocalists. On the other hand ELO has maybe one of the finest musicians/songwriters of all time in Jeff Lynne. One day someone will rise up and create another Hall of Fame. It will be called something else, and it will take a while to catch on, but when it does, watch out music world!!!

Posted by Scott on Friday, 05/31/2013 @ 21:48pm

A quick look at the nominating committee provides the entire explanation of who gets in and who doesn't. Policies ought to be written, approved by a diverse selection of rock fans, and the entire nominating committee, who are all the same people since the beginning of the Hall of Fame, should be booted! The current mehods of selecting inductees are strictly political in nature, and crooked. Give the R and R HOF some CREDIBILITY. You won't see me visiting this Godawful bull**** building until those who deserve induction get it. Break up the current nominating committee, and the Board of Directors. Kick them all out. Their money isn't needed. That's the only reason they get away with their manipulation of the system, and the institution, which should die, in my opinion until itis credible. It's like Susan Lucci's snubbing for so any years, probably because eveyone was jealous of her. The RRHOF means ZIP to me as it is set up now. Fix it, now! Don't be discriminatory because of age.

Posted by Susan Robbins on Tuesday, 06/4/2013 @ 23:36pm

Who the hell is Susan Lucci?

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 00:22am

Who the hell is Susan Lucci?

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 06.5.13 @ 00:22am

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Among other things, Susan Lucci played Erica Kane on the ABC soap opera All My Children from 1970-2011.

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 01:22am

Rick - Did she sing?

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 03:11am

Gassman - The reference is that Susan Lucci was one of the top soap opera actors of her time and was nominated for Emmys for ten years or something before she finally won. The poster who made the reference gave a passionate, albeit tired, conspiracy theory rant, but never mentioned who she was raging about. She likely laments the absence of a handful mid-tier 70s vanilla rockers and has a problem with Madonna, Prince, ABBA, all hip hop acts who have been inducted or likely all of the above. At least that would be my guess based on experience with drive-by cliche peddlers around here.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 05:03am

At least that would be my guess based on experience with drive-by cliche peddlers around here.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 06.5.13 @ 05:03am
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I know what you mean. You have to watch out for those clichÃ© peddlers running around here.

I bought my air-guitar skills off the back of a bus, & boy, did it cost me!

In fact, I think it was Susan Lucci who was driving the bus, now that I recall. She was pushing her new series, "All My Children Are Imaginary Rock Stars".

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 06:24am

In fact, I think it was Susan Lucci who was driving the bus, now that I recall. She was pushing her new series, "All My Children Are Imaginary Rock Stars".

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 06.5.13 @ 06:24am
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I used to play sick just so I could stay home from school to watch that.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 06:36am

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 09:19am

I used to play sick just so I could stay home from school to watch that.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 06.5.13 @ 06:36am

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For me it was my all-time favorite soap opera The Young & the Restless from 1984-present, with General Hospital from 1980-1993 in 2nd, then sometimes All My Children and One Life to Live, not sick per se, I just to catch 'em during Winter, Spring and Summer recess!

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 06/5/2013 @ 21:47pm

@Sam @Susan @Whomever-The problem with the R&RHF, beyond just the usual politics, is that it doesn't seem to have an agreed upon criteria. The nominations are inconsistent, which leads people of snubbed bands to wonder "why A and not B"? For example, how important are record sales vs. critical praise? And in the later case, do the critics have a clue? If record sales are the most important factor, then virtually any middle of the road act should be inducted. If not, then you get seemingly arbitrary critical judgments (Laura Nyro?).

Compounding this, the general critical view of rock is a mess. Certain eras and genres are valued over others. Why? Beats me.

So there you have politics, a nebulous induction criteria that no one can nail down, inconsistent inductions and a view of rock that magically turned the Ramones into the "American Beatles." It's amazing that it works as good as it does.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 06/6/2013 @ 10:02am

Astro - For once, you & I may be agreeing on something here - & a lot of it, amazingly. I'll ignore the Ramones comment at the end, since the 99% before it is spot on.

At the very end, you stated that "it's amazing that it works as good as it does". Personally, I think it's rather un-amazing that it worked this good up till now. Think about it - if you've a ballot w/names like Elvis & the Beatles on it, it ought to be rather easy to fill a class. You & I could substitute for any of these voters in the early years, & be hailed as geniuses by the general public. The first 20 classes were all cakewalks, & even then, you could've expanded the classes & not been hurt.

I've often expressed my take on the subject when it comes to why certain artists are snubbed, certain genres, etc.

A. The voters tended to be 60's & early 70's centric, w/formative yrs. straddling the 50's/early 60's.

B. They favor pop over rock, but their own musical times in either form over anybody else's.

C. The later voting matches their aging process, & has little to do w/music, & more to do w/whatever was moving them extraneous to music. They simply made up connections to the industry wherever they could, to make themselves feel as though they were doing their job.

D. Critical judgment was done on the earlier records, since the music moved them, & it was easy to place it in context for them. Later down the line, sales became more impt., as they lost passion for the music, but still had to put up a front. It's the reason why the classes over the past few yrs. have featured a mix of obvious commercial behemoths from 75 through the 80's, & critical darlings from 55-75.

E. Compounding this is the fact that their view of rock is far diff. than yours or mine. We may sit here & disagree, but they are working from a third take on the music that neither of us would fully agree on. They do have a clue - in regards to their take on it. The system is not broke - provided you're working w/their system. And that's precisely what they're working with.

Stinks, doesn't it?! :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 06/6/2013 @ 16:36pm

Why is Chubby Checker not in the Hall Of Fame. His influence is still felt today. This injustice needs to be corrected.

Posted by Jimmy on Friday, 06/7/2013 @ 17:34pm

The Moody Blues And Chicago not in but trash bands like the sex pistols are. You should all be spanked.

Posted by chuck on Friday, 06/14/2013 @ 12:27pm

I think you should go by years together infultion of the band. Kiss has been together for 40 years and gold, platium and double platium and a lot people started using piro and lighting

Posted by Lori noble on Sunday, 06/30/2013 @ 10:15am

As a 'fan' in general of course I am biased, along with that I think there are too many inducted that should not be BUT as long as you have committed to induct several every year for publicity(?)then I can't fathom why perfomers such as Deep Purple and The Moody Blues are not already inducted. Sales/Popularity; innovation; longgevity and pure skill (in the studio or on stage)are all qualities that should be considered - qualities though that link back to the roots of Rock, whether it be blues, rock-a-billy, British Invasion etc. But not top 40 Barry Manilow pop!!!

Posted by Daved on Wednesday, 07/17/2013 @ 14:15pm

If Todd Rundgren doesn't qualify for the Hall of Fame under these rules, then no one else does either. What is the Foundations's problem?

Posted by Ritabold on Saturday, 07/20/2013 @ 12:52pm

This might be a Roy-type post but here are the statistics to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees:

292 inducted
719 people inducted
190 Performers
31 Early Infulence
52 Non-Performers
19 Sidemen
432 living inductees
287 deceased inductees
187 individuals
105 groups
251 American inductees
30 British inductees*
6 Canadian Inductees*
2 Irish inductees
2 Jamaican inductees
1 Swedish inductee
1 40s Performer inductee
47 50s Performer inductees
92 60s Performer inductees
37 70s Performer inductees
8 80s Performer inductees
119 inductees classified as Rock
50 R&B inductees**
11 Blues inductees**
8 Country inductees
8 Jazz inductees**
6 Metal inductees
4 Hip-Hop/Rap inductees
4 Prog inductees
4 Punk inductees
3 indutees classified as Pop
2 Disco inductees+
2 Gospel inductees**

Let me know if I made a mistake.

* indicates that some British and Canadian bands consist American members
** indicates the number contains both Performer and Early Influence
+ - even though the Bee Gees is not fully a Disco band, their biggest hits and sucess is mostly Disco

Posted by John R.C on Friday, 07/26/2013 @ 18:08pm

http://indianapolis.metromix.com/music/standard_photo_gallery/the-10-worst-rock/2840535/photo/2840533

Metromix Indianapolis

The 10 Worst Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs

01. Kiss
02. Rush (inducted)
03. Deep Purple
04. Journey
05. Yes
06. Cheap Trick
07. T. Rex
08. New York Dolls
09. Motorhead
10. Stevie Ray Vaughan

Induction precedent for Kiss is Alice Cooper
Induction precedent for Rush is Jeff Beck
Induction precedent for Deep Purple is Black Sabbath
Induction precedent for Journey is AC/DC
Induction precedent for Yes is Genesis
Induction precedent for Cheap Trick is Aerosmith
Induction precedent for T. Rex is David Bowie
Induction precedent for New York Dolls is Sex Pistols
Induction precedent for Motorhead is Metallica
Induction precedent for Stevie Ray Vaughan is Bonnie Raitt

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09/11/2013 @ 13:58pm

According to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominating committee member Toure, Questlove of The Roots has joined the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominating committee and the hip hop subcommittee. My question is why is he allowed? Why him? Can any celebrity musician who wants to join, join?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09/21/2013 @ 20:15pm

He's allowed because he was invited. He's a strong, broadly knowledgeable addition to the NomCom. Glad to see him there.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 09/21/2013 @ 21:50pm

I agree, Questlove is a perfect addition to the Nominating Committee. He might even join Paul Schaffer when they are playing during the induction ceremony. With Toure announcing about Questlove in the committee, the Nomintating Committee are now together to determine the 2014 ballot.

Posted by John R.C. on Saturday, 09/21/2013 @ 22:00pm

To Future Rock Legends:

Through your connections you have been able to find out the names of all the people on the nominating committees for the performers category, the non-performers category and the sidemen category.

Would it be possible for you to find out the names of the people on the committee that decides which members of bands and groups are inducted?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09/22/2013 @ 12:23pm

Camper van Beethoven must absolutely be inducted. Immediately. They were and still are totally revolutionary in their approach as well as their execution. And they are still carrying the torch today for every independent rock that followed. Accept no imitations. There are none.

Posted by Tom Harvey on Thursday, 10/3/2013 @ 05:54am

Depeche Mode has been around for over 30 years and continue to perform and have hits today. Yet even today they are not in the hall. This is a travesty.

Posted by Daryl Sulton on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 10:08am

I read an interesting article on this very subject linked at below. It seems that either obscure hard acts or others from vague miscategorized genres get honored while too many classic rockers from the 70s and 80s are marginalized or overlooked. The hall loses credibility when it keeps inducting stylists who don't fit and fails to respect soft rock icons.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-has-jumped-the-shark-here-s-why

Posted by Rick on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 09:28am

The problem with your average rock critic is that they're afraid of populist happy upbeat music. As if rock in a major key is not cool or hip. This is why soft rock is underrepresented since gatekeeper critical taste is limited to hard stuff. They are wired to hear nothing but bad ass. By that narrow definition, rock must be mad or loud with little room for emotional variety in between. The result is that too many deserving bands whose music is lighter or brighter get left out. And that sucks.

Posted by Joey on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 10:00am

Rock is a musical hybrid mixture of R&B and country and black and white influences. Yet way too many R&B acts are inducted to the sad exclusion of many diverse contributors. Sorry, but Quincy Jones and Etta James and are not rock 'n rollers. Q is a jazz man and Etta was pop soul. When the taste merchants lose sight of what rock actually is and leave out the most obvious, the HoF becomes a joke and not a cultural entity to be taken seriously by rock fans.

Posted by SB on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 10:34am

Bottom line and final word. Back in the 50s, rock 'n roll was the white man's name given to black music. Modern media is sending a message that if you sing too white or not black enough, then you may not be allowed in. That is the criteria for induction. So what it really is is the black music hall of fame disguised as a democratic institution. It's not inclusive of all derivative genres, styles or any sound that is too white or major key melodic. This is why soft rockers get dissed except for some tokens that do not belong. Because it's mostly all about black music and anyone who doesn't accept or realize that is too politically correct to understand. Nuff said.

Posted by JustSayNo on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 11:05am

did you just say the hall was too black?

lol

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 12:34pm

I think I know what he means. He's not knocking it and just saying that's the way it was set up. Yet still, the way I see it, it blackballs soft pop rock yet includes miscategorized inductees from disco, jazz and rap. That's bias or inconsistency. How many different genres do you include or exclude as rock before lines are blurred and are too fixed or arbitrary to be taken seriously? He has a point.

Posted by Sue on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 13:22pm

No one needs to speak for me. Are you one of those thought police ad hominem trolls who likes to draw false conclusions and throw around labels? I'm saying that the nominating committee for induction does not represent a diverse cross section of rock taste nor an even sampling of rock music fans. To anyone with the least sense of logic, reason or common sense, this is a given. Hall induction is too fickle or all over the place to be fair and balanced. Like a bogus electorate, judgment of critics is either token or exclusive and not to be confused with any fair democratic selection process. That's how I see it.

Posted by JustSayNo on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 13:46pm

Are you kidding me? He's right on. Etta James and Quincy Jones are not rock 'n rollers by any stretch. For equal parity representation, they'd have to induct Don Costa and Rosemary Clooney, neither of which belong as well. But of course that won't happen anytime soon if ever. You have to understand that any award that revolves around industry opinion is subject to the judgment of fools. For insiders awards are just a fame game and us real people fans just don't realize that populist taste is the enemy of bohemian elitists.

Posted by Tootie D on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 14:18pm

The best way to look at the hall, really, is to see it as not a "Rock and Roll" hall of fame, but more one of popular music (which is far more interesting than just a regular rock HOF anyway)

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 15:05pm

Posted by Mr70sSoftRock on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 16:40pm

The best way to look at the hall, really, is to see it as not a "Rock and Roll" hall of fame, but more one of popular music (which is far more interesting than just a regular rock HOF anyway)

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.19.13 @ 15:05pm

I disagree. This just feeds the ignorant rawkists who pollute this site every year around this time. All of the artists inducted come from the many subgenres of rock and roll or are from an influence genre, but had enough merit themselves to justify induction into the RRHoF. There are no inductees so far who don't belong in a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the name is perfectly appropriate.

The problem isn't the Hall. The problem is closed minded, self absorbed and historically ignorant commentators.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 17:16pm

"but at heart rock is juvenile delinquent music."

Because juvenile delinquents listen to a lot of soft rock, right?

also bbz, if this site was connected with the hall, do you really think they;d let a little shit like me run around?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 17:55pm

When it's all said and done, the one big major problem is in bending, molding and shaping the definition of rock way out of proportion so that it seems award masters are grasping for straws.

The RS music opinion cops want Jazz, Soul, Funk, Country, Rap and Hip Hop all to be considered "subgenres" of rock as if it were the only music when the real deal has been MIA/DOA for decades.

Yeah, right. Just like apples are oranges as a poster said. Before you know it, they'll find some classical instrumentalist to induct. Where does it end if they make it up as they go along?

Critical pundits want rock to influence or be influenced by all things musical yet they leave out soft pop rock icons if the music is too good, melodies too sweet and the sound not hard enough.

R&R HoF is a family with a bias for kids adopted over their own flesh and blood. Rock is one form of music, not a half dozen. Once they induct the first GAS crooner, they'll have jumped the shark.

Posted by GFY on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 18:17pm

I think somebody needs to settle on one username and drop a lot of over the top hyperbole if they want to be taken seriously.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 18:23pm

First, I've never read a more racist and sexist post ever. Bitch folk, PMS Pop, street thug music? Really? You think that's okay?

Second, you know nothing about music and are a troll. You deserve no recognition from this point on.

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 18:25pm

We're lucky that these rockist just come here to post just one comment about how Madonna, ABBA or any Hip Hop act got inducted but [insert any Hard Rock or prog act here] didn't, then they might say something like "The Hall is a joke", or "Pop or Hip Hop is not Rock" and never return to this website again. It's like they don't want to be corrected by the regular posters in this site about how wrong or ignorant they say.

I think that FRL and the Top of the Charts forum are the only Rock Hall related websites that isn't overrun by Rockists, which is why I love going to those sites for opinions about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by John R.C. on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 18:46pm

John R.C. - Are you a member at ToC or do you lurk? If you're just lurking you should jump in. We need more voices over there.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 19:07pm

When you have no intellect for debate, resort to foolish name calling. If there are any isms going on, they are in the HoF selection process. As in musical fascism. Seems that rock icons don't count unless they have a hard minor key songbook. While R&R claims endless influences, why are so many acts soft, melodic or upbeat still left out of the hall? Unless or until R&R HoF is more inclusive, it will have its critics who see the forest for the trees.

Posted by Mr70sSoftRock on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 19:25pm

Good lord, GFY's like my awful doppelganger.

Also, musical Fascism? I think wanting to keep Rap, Soul, Folk, Alt and Trad Pop is a better example of "musical fascism" then keeping out "melodic, upbeat soft rock" (which by the way, is a hell of a broad genre, what acts are you even on about?)

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10/19/2013 @ 21:36pm

Then they need to change the name, because all music is not rock 'n roll. If it was, the free world would be in deep trouble. The Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame selection process seems to exude an apple and orange aloof criteria for induction thus far. I'm just being honest. Here are what seem to be perpetual picks that make the grade.

2. Some obscure band that never had a big hit but was a hard cookie cutter group long forgotten. This is for minor key tonality critics who like to hear sad or mad sounds with no sweet melody.

3. Laid back soulsters. If soul was rock 'n roll, it would be less accessible. And someone like Sam Cooke would not have been able to start his own record label, may not have ever written a message song and might still be alive today. Soul is not rock 'n roll. Repeat, soul is not rock 'n roll. Write that on the music class chalkboard 50 times.
And neither is rap or hip hop, by the way. If you include street thug music in the future I would next expect you to go send a RS rocket ship into outer space in search of alien music to label R&R.

4. Mad songstress with a feminist skank attitude who is really not a rock 'n roller but something critics would best call...bitch folk or PMS pop.

5. Alternative bands cool to like because they are different or bizarre. The typical lost soul band that does not sound like anyone else but still sucks. I realize that the best music came and went with the Big Bang of pop culture in the 20th century. But bias for bohemians and ire for pop rock just amounts to so much musical fascism.

Sorry, but at heart rock is juvenile delinquent music. To tie it with mature adult classics would really be stretching the definition beyond all believability. At this point, your judgment of applicable taste is on a Twilight Zone drug trip with no serious connection whatsoever to reality.

A quick study of music chart history shows that the 70s was the most diverse era in history with the most hit music and a boom for soft rock. If the hall won't include any popular musicians then it can publicize a special disclaimer newsletter that says that RS does not like ear candy melodic music that gets stuck in your head and prefers loud noise that you can party with or get drunk to. That way critics and detractors will go away.

PS: I bet damn well this site is connected with the Rock Hall in order to gauge public opinion.

Posted by Mr70sSoftRock on Saturday, 10.19.13 @ 16:40pm
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I'm torn here. On one hand, you've a few solid arguments here that I'd agree w/wholeheartedly. On the other hand, you waste all this bluster to defend the merits of what... Bread? The Carpenters? Maybe America here?

Your #2 could mean the Velvet Underground. It could also mean the MC5. It could mean the 13th Floor Elevators, the Blues Magoos, Sir Lord Baltimore, Blue Cheer, or any one of a zillion groups. Lots of groups were cookie-cutter, but also rocked a heck of a lot better than any of the soft stuff.

Your #3 has merit, though you haven't mentioned how you feel about the musicians who played on the records. The Stax musicians, Muscle Shoals section, the Funk Brothers at Motown, all whipped up some great music.

Your #4 - mad songstress w/a skank attitude - I guess this means Alanis Morrisette or someone close in nature... so, you're from the 70's? Sounds like the music ran away from you.

#5 - See #4. I apologize for everyone born after the Baby Boomers who made the severe mistake of thinking freely for themselves, while possessing freedom of expression. It seems that perhaps you are the one into musical constraints.

In addition, you contradicted yourself when you state that rock & roll is at heart a juvenile form, and then proceed to slag off intense volume in the name of "soft" rock. At it's best, soft rock is not rock, but rather a modification of pop form to suit the world at hand (a.k.a. the early 70's).

btw - How did all this anger come out of a person listening to Bread records? Did you lack for bread to eat? If this was the case, then why did you waste your bread (cash) buying Bread records? Or did you save your bread (cash) by trading bread (food) to buy Bread (music)? If you're still angry about it, then why are you yelling at those younger than you? Why didn't you do something sensible back then?! What, are we supposed to feed you as well?!

Heck, I can't get food myself here! It's breakfast time where I am, & yet here I sit, forced to discuss Bread! Am I eating it right now! Oh, no... NOOOO!!!!! Instead, just because you failed to follow FDA guidelines on nutrition 40 years ago, I have to sit here and suffer, defending my right to have rocked in the 80's & 90's, & anybody else's right in the 2000's & beyond!

I'm Hungry! :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 07:02am

If more people didn't take the Rock Hall's name so literally, they wouldn't wonder why other genres are included under that umbrella phrase.

The Rock Hall (again) has addressed the issue:

http://rockhall.com/blog/post/10154_the-roots-and-definition-of-rock-and-roll/

Posted by JR on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 08:47am

"4. Mad songstress with a feminist skank attitude who is really not a rock 'n roller but something critics would best call...bitch folk or PMS pop."

What? I don't even know how to take this blatant sexism. If a critic ever called a woman's music, bitch folk, they would lose their job. And any kind of respect.

Rock is a genre based on Sex and Youth. Did it grow from there? Of course, but the core of the genre has always been built on concept over musical similarity.

And you point out nothing about the misogyny and rampant sexism of so many Rock styles.

Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 10/20/2013 @ 16:04pm

How Johnny Rivers is rarely mentioned is beyond me. The man was as significant an American artist as there was in the 60's, competing quite well with the Beatles and other dominating British rock bands. He "made" the Whiskey-a-Go-Go" an immensely popular place with people, celebrities and fellow musicians, coming to see HIM play. His sound live is as good as any musician out there, one of the best performers of any generation with many of his popular recordings performed live. He has recorded epic songs, covers and his own, that have influenced many artist since. He also has run his own record studio and produced hits for others, such as the Fifth Dimension. He should at least be on any nomination ballot created. Truly a travesty that he is often left out of the discussion.

Posted by Danny on Tuesday, 10/22/2013 @ 09:44am

I would like to nominate Johnny Maestro, lead vocalist of the Crests & The Brooklyn Bridge. Johnny has passed and we, lovers of music, would like to see him inducted into the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame. We this honor has long been overdue. Alone the Brooklyn Bridge has sold over 10 million records. Johnny was the front man with The Crests in the early 60's, The Del Satins, and The Brooklyn Bridge . I am sure you are familiar with "The Worst That Could Happen" written by Jimmy Webb. It would be in the Hall's best interest to induct Johnny Maestro posthumously. It is my honor the nominate Mr. Johnny Maestro. Thank you for considering this request.

Posted by Al Makowski on Wednesday, 11/20/2013 @ 14:30pm

So here's my question. How come there isn't a single shred about Motley Crue on here. They've been snubbed more than a handful of time, yet they were an influence. Not just MY influence, but a leader in the "hair band" genre. That being said, they have to have some kind of standing that will allow the Hall to finally give Motley Crue the so deserved enshrinement in history.

Posted by Abdul Ahmad on Monday, 11/25/2013 @ 11:17am

Abdul, I'm not sure 'hair band' is a genre you want to be associated with if you are serious about getting into HOF.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11/25/2013 @ 14:28pm

I guess the committee never heard of The Doobie Brothers....they are still rockin it out to this day and sound better then ever!!!!!!

Posted by Beth on Monday, 11/25/2013 @ 21:44pm

Hey FRL, I think you'll be really happy about this. In the Induction Process at the Hall's website, they removed the 50% rule and the only thing that remains is that you need the highest votes to get inducted.

Take a look at the link below:
http://rockhall.com/inductees/induction-process/

Posted by John R.C. on Wednesday, 12/18/2013 @ 22:44pm

Ha! Awesome... Only took, what, two years?

Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 12/18/2013 @ 23:02pm

So why exactly are the Moody Blues not in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.
Can you take this place seriously while they are not inducted when compare to some of those who have
If the hall hasn’t come to that conclusion on its own the whole criteria is in question.
Is there agenda driving the process?

Posted by Don on Tuesday, 01/7/2014 @ 14:19pm

I am curious if The Outsiders from Cleveland Ohio have ever been considered for induction to the hall of fame?
Before you fall out of your chairs laughing, please consider the difference that they made in the mid 1960's.
Like the Beatles before them, they single handedly changed the musically landscape by adding something to rock and roll that had never been considered before that. A full horn section and a driving guitar solo that grabs you from the start and never lets go.
Had the Outsiders of made better choices, their influence would still be heard and used today.
Bands such as Chicago,Bread along with countless others credit the Outsiders with influencing them and helping to launch a new genre of Rock.
Would these bands have used a horn section if not for the Outsiders, it is hard to say, but you cannot argue with the fact that The Outsiders changed the musical landscape.
Here in the city of Cleveland Ohio, Tom King is still revered and beings the Rock Hall is here in Cleveland, it would be a fitting tribute to Tom and his FAMILY.

Posted by mike king on Thursday, 01/30/2014 @ 21:52pm

The Outsiders have never been considered and never will. I've heard rumors of their influence, but am skeptical. As far as innovation goes, I really don't think they were doing much not already being done by Stax/Volt and Motown. And impact, they don't have much in their favor. I've actaully heard the argument before, but honestly, they dropped the ball. The first white rock act that really made a run with that ball is the Buckinghams, and I think I'm the only one on this site who even supports them. So no, the Outsiders have no shot.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01/30/2014 @ 22:20pm

FRL, on the induction ceremony page, the 1995 ceremony was actually broadcast, but taped for a later date. The ceremony was broadcast on MTV.

http://rockhall.com/inductees/ceremonies/1995/

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 02/27/2014 @ 10:40am

Thanks, John R.C. -- any idea if 1996 was televised as well? It was broadcast back to Cleveland via closed circuit, but haven't found any mention of it on TV.

Posted by FRL on Thursday, 02/27/2014 @ 11:33am

I think that the ceremony wasn't broadcast in 96. I think the reason they broadcast the 95 one is because they have big names at the ceremony. It might probably be in MTV as well before they move to VH1.

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 02/27/2014 @ 16:05pm

I heard musicians that are inducted into the RnR HOF are required to pay the HOF $10,000 each. Seems crazy to me. Anyone know if this is true?

Posted by Siouxie S on Monday, 04/14/2014 @ 10:46am

I very much doubt it. I can't imagine anyone in the Sex Pistols coughing up any money, yet they were inducted.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04/14/2014 @ 12:51pm

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Grand Funk Railroad has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame! As far as I'm concerned (and a lot of my friends) the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame does not exist. How can a RAP artist be inducted when one of the greatest American Rock-N-Roll bands is not even in the Hall of Fame.
We will never visit until the name refers to the music it is suppose to represent, Rock-N-Roll!

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 04/16/2014 @ 14:14pm

That's because Grand Funk Railroad sucks. Sorry I'm not sorry. Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, Beastie Boys and Public Enemy are all more important to the developement of Rock-N-Roll than Grand Funk. I can't wait until Kanye West gets in. :D

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04/16/2014 @ 15:17pm

Wait. There's a serious issue that needs to be addressed here. How will the RRHoF afford to keep the doors open if he and his refuse to visit?

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 04/16/2014 @ 15:44pm

Rap music and it's musicians ( if you can really call them that ) do not belong anywhere near the RRHoF..Let that genre start it's own place people can revel in that nastiness..I would cringe seeing that crap if I should ever visit...

Posted by kelly on Wednesday, 04/16/2014 @ 17:06pm

I've been thinking of honest criteria for RRHOF. I think selling over 100 million CD's is an outstanding accomplishment in the downloading & digital age. 20 Top 20 hits over a career would be impressive as well as a group that could produce 3 Diamond CD's.

With so many styles of music art rock, prog, heavy metal, R&B,grunge, rap metal,jazz rock, I wonder how future music groups can be truly "innovative". It will be mixing & matching different styles of music.

Here's a list of groups that I think should be in RRHOF. No particular order.

1. Def Leppard 2.Duran Duran 3.Bryan Adams 4. Scorpions 5. Pat Benatar 6.The Cure 7. Paul Rodgers in some form 8.Counting Crows (not eligible yet) 9. Steve Miller Band 10. Alice In Chains (not eligible yet) 11. Pearl Jam (not elugible yet (ligiblet) 12. Stone Temple Pilots (not eligible yet) 13. Dire Straits 14. Deep Purple 15. Roxy Music 15. Radiohead 16. Chicago 17. Judas Priest 18. Iron Maiden 19. Whitney Housyton 20. Kool &The Gang 21. Moody Blues 22.Mariah Carey 23. Soundgarden 24. YES 25. Foreigner 3 groups that I like that won't make Hall---Dokken,Tesla,White Lion. (eligiblig) KING K:)

Posted by KING on Thursday, 05/22/2014 @ 17:01pm

Kelly: To bad for you there are already 4 rap artists in. Hope you enjoy your visit!

KING: The Rock Hall has never cared about sales or song charts when it comes to who they nominate or induct. I doubt very much it will change.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 05/22/2014 @ 17:08pm

Lets get Journey into the Rock andRoll Hall of Fame soon You should be ashamed they are the best rock and roll band ever with the greatest singer In Steve Perry. Come on guys

Posted by angela Ross on Tuesday, 06/3/2014 @ 10:47am

E Here's my 2015 RRHOF probable inductees. I already listed my nominees last month. 1.Deep Purple 2.Kool & The Gang 3.Duran Duran 4.Steve Miller 5.Moody Blues 6.Def Leppard 7.Lou Reed. On musical excellence, I don't know but the Silver Bullet band could be inducted . Groups who could also be inducted YES, Foreigner, or Roxy Music. What do you music fans think who will be inducted King? KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 06/5/2014 @ 14:54pm

LLike to see induction 12 members of RRHOF sifting through a group's merits like a jury trial. It can be informal with drinks & popcorn watching concert footage or listening to their CD's for a few hours.

Maybe a nominated group can send an ambassador to conduct a presentation in front of the 12. It's possible that a band member could do the politicking too.

That would be excellent seeing Clapton,Beck,Bruce,Peter Gabriel, Jagger discussing the merits of a band's worthiness. Obvious 12 votes would be unanimous induction. Maybe 9 out of 12 would be the cutoff .That's 75%. There's no easy way...Hundreds of groups scattered over 60 years or so. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 06/8/2014 @ 18:55pm

Why no Electric Light Orchestra yet?! Or at the very LEAST, Jeff Lynne! Seriously, what the heck. Let's make this happen.

Posted by Lisa on Friday, 06/27/2014 @ 22:39pm

I think it's about time that Def Leppard has been inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame. They have 2 albums go diamond. Proved metal can sell albums. Still together through bad luck/times.

Posted by Steve on Monday, 08/18/2014 @ 21:43pm

It seems to me that most everything truly good and rock like from good bands don't even get much radio play until it's old enough to be put on classic channels. Mainstream rock stations play crap in heavy rotation from "artists" who are more like pop bands than rock stars, are trending on twitter/google/Facebook or whatever, or in the headlines for stupid crap.

Posted by TBJones on Saturday, 09/6/2014 @ 16:55pm

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame cannot be taken too seriously when artists such as Yes, ELP, Dire Straits, Deep Purple, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Chicago, the Moody Blues, Journey and the Doobie Brothers have been left out while a one hit wonder like Richie Valens enjoys membership. The H of F inducted Bob Seger but failed to recognize his band. Right. These artists have been both innovative and impactful on a scale far greater than the likes of Valens or Donna Summer. Shame on the Hall.

Posted by Lindsey Dion on Tuesday, 09/16/2014 @ 00:21am

If influence is a criteria, then what defines it? Bands like Little Feat, widely acknowledged as "influential" are out, but pap like Abba is in? The Moody Blues, the Kinks, the Zombies all had major influence on rock, but they are not in either. Perhaps a clearer definition of "influence" might help.

Posted by Pete on Thursday, 10/9/2014 @ 09:34am

The hall without Chicago, is hollow. They lose credibilty. Chicago is as worthy as any band in the hall already.Influence, Impact, Unique, these are the foundation of the criteria for the Hall.

Posted by Alexander Miranda on Thursday, 10/9/2014 @ 19:32pm

When did rap become listed as rock 'n roll....are you kidding me? NWA what?

Posted by Rshawn on Sunday, 10/12/2014 @ 21:16pm

Since AT LEAST 2005 when they first nominated Grandmaster Flash.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 10/12/2014 @ 23:44pm

Why no moody blues by any criteria

Posted by Rick scullin on Monday, 11/24/2014 @ 14:51pm

I do not have time to read 840 + comments nor do I expect anyone to respond to mine. Based on influence alone it's impossible to comprehend how Judas Priest is not in! Only explanation is what I've always known - a deep bias to a specific genre of music, namely heavy metal! Ironic since Priest started in late 60's as a hard rock/blues outfit & evolved over time to represent what the future of a whole genre would imitate - heavy metal. Sad that the hall doesn't live up to their own voting criteria & let their bias' get in their own way. Words like stupid or idiotic could be thrown their way & would lay at the voters feet like a 1 week old's punch to Mike Tyson's jaw. But I would think the charge "biased" would sting their precious holier than thou image. I guess I'm wrong since Priest has been eligible for 15 years!

Posted by Jim on Tuesday, 12/16/2014 @ 10:49am

The Doobie Brothers and Chicago are both as deserving of entry into the H of H as most bands already there and more than some in my opinion. Both are unique bands forged in the musical gumbo of the late 1960s and early 1970s who have, like most true rock musicians, had the integrity to stick to their vision and continue to this day to surprise and amaze us with new work. The Nominating Committee of the H of H, on the other hand should show some integrity and stick to the stated mission of the Hall founders to reward truly original musicians who have made a contribution and NOT make decisions based on the style or genre they personally like or feel keeps the Hall relevant.

Posted by Stuart Napier on Tuesday, 01/6/2015 @ 15:54pm

I feel pretty strong that there were some main players in the R&R venues that have been overlooked. In the 70's there were unscrupulous band managers. As what happened to Black oak Arkansas. BOA had some of rocks top bands OPENING for them! Did over 300 one night stage gigs, 2 gold records for a number of years and had their own managers stealing them blind. I can only say", that out of 147 concerts I went to, BOA was in my top 3 of all time favorites. Yet, never even thought of by R&RHOF. Why.... It's not trending I guess. Or the band thought too uncouth. Like the other guy said,"Rock and Roll was teens world then, funny....now it has become for the older 30 and 40 somethings. Would LOVE to see James Leslie Mangrum aka Jim Dandy at least be mentioned before he dies. The band has in part reunited and still plays. 46 years of Rockin ought to be worth mentioning.

Posted by Vickie on Wednesday, 01/7/2015 @ 05:56am

I do hope that the hall stays as true to it's name as possible. It's different for the founders of Rock and for those who truly made a massive difference in music if "Rock" can't be really attached to their legacy. (Bill Withers, Michael Jackson, Madonna)

Pop artists like Mariah Carey, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift should not be apart of this institution unless they change or are influential to Rock Music. They can be in another Hall of Fame that I won't visit.

Posted by John on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 11:54am

In my personal opinion the majority of acts in the ROCK AND ROLL "hall of fame" should not be inducted because they are not ROCK AND ROLL. For example:
Singer-Songwriter Acts like James Taylor
Hip-Hop acts like Public Enemy
Reggae acts like Bob Marley
Disco acts like The Bee Gees
Pop acts like Michael Jackson
Soul acts like Aretha Franklin
R&B acts like Ray Charles
Alternative acts like Nirvana
Punk acts like The Clash
Metal acts like Black Sabbath
Hair Metal acts like Guns N' Roses
Progressive acts like Pink Floyd
Hard Rock acts like Led Zeppelin
Rock acts like The Rolling Stones
All these artists can find their own hall of fame and if you're not ROCK AND ROLL get out. I want my Dion, Ricky Nelson, and Coasters, everyone else has no business in the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame.
It's not the METAL hall of fame, DISCO hall of fame, or even the ROCK hall of fame. Since it's the name I think we should take it seriously and kick everyone that isn't strictly ROCK AND ROLL

Posted by Ryan on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 14:41pm

I can't wrap my head around how utterly stupid the comment above me is. So basically let's not induct anyone in the Rock Hall unless they're from the 1950s (don't get me wrong, I love 50s rock artists that you listed and many others). All the acts you listed contributed greatly to rock music and clearly use rock music elements (even Public Enemy, listen to "Bring the Noise" for hard-rock sound). Ever heard of "subcategories" or "subgenres"?? You any creditability when you don't think groups like Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones are rock and roll.

Posted by Nick on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 19:21pm

Nick: I think Ryan was mocking some of the previous posters by going completely over the top.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 19:28pm

Yeah, I was just kidding. I sometimes forget that satire/sarcasm doesn't always show when you're on the internet.

I just think it's ridiculous how people say that there shouldn't be any hip-hop/disco/reggae/etc. acts because they are not rock and roll. When in reality they belong in the rock hall just as much (or sometimes even more) as the acts that they think are worthy for the hall.

I think all the artists that I listed are extremely worthy of being in the hall.

If you have seen some of my nominations for the song/album project, you would understand I try to incorporate all sorts of genres, and I think all artists of the rock and roll era (circa 1950 - present day) should be considered for the hall regardless of genre.

I just wanted to show how ridiculous some of these people sound when they try to not include genres from the rock and roll hall of fame just because of the name by taking their point one step further and taking the name even more literally.

Posted by Ryan on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 19:55pm

Ryan, no hard feelings. Some people post some ridiculous things on this site and I guess I read it wrong (I like sarcasm as much as the next guy). I agree with your statement about people on here saying so-and-so doesn't belong in the rock hall because there not "rock." I agree debates like that don't go anywhere. Good to know someone else like a variety of rock genres as well.

Posted by Nick on Monday, 02/2/2015 @ 20:31pm

I would like to know why haven't Frankie Beverly been nominated for the rock and roll hall of fame, this guy and his band Maze has been around for over 40 years and still going strong and they deserve to be in the RARHOF, as one of the most influential groups today. your committee needs to research Frankie Beverly and Maze and you will agree they deserve to be inducted into the RARHOF! Whatever the criteria for RARHOF these guys got it!

Posted by Alfreda Davis on Friday, 02/27/2015 @ 15:46pm

FRL, looks like this confirms that HBO will air this year's induction ceremony.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/03/02/hbo-secures-3-year-broadcast-deal-with-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-foundation/369364/

Posted by John R.C. on Monday, 03/2/2015 @ 17:03pm

you need to put journey in the hall of fame they have been around for al most 40 years and steve perry got them to they are today

Posted by april parker on Sunday, 03/15/2015 @ 00:58am

The induction process makes no sense, where very important bands like Jethro Tull, The Moody Blues and Yes are not members of this Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame will continue to look like illegitimate, and its selection process purely random, when these important bands are ignored. No excuse.

Posted by Steven C. November on Wednesday, 03/18/2015 @ 17:23pm

Duran Duran...30+ yrs....they are still fab

Posted by tullytime2@yahoo.com on Friday, 03/20/2015 @ 11:06am

Boston deserves to be nominated and inducted...period!

Posted by John M on Friday, 04/17/2015 @ 22:01pm

Period? Boston was a decent band that had some fun tracks but that's about it. Fact.

Posted by RumpShaker on Friday, 04/17/2015 @ 22:08pm

A Hall of Fame ignoring popularity? Perhaps, it should be renamed to Hall of Achievement or Hall of Critical Talent. Some of the people in the so called Hall of Fame are not famous. (Willie John, Jimmy Reed) Some never sang rock and roll. Jazz, soul and country are not rock and roll. Ignoring bands with big hits (Chicago, Journey) for lesser known talents defies the purpose of the HOF.

Posted by JIm N on Monday, 04/20/2015 @ 01:09am

Like to see RRHOF nominate 20 bands each year. Nice round number. Harder for fans to complain going to 20. Sure 3 or 4 bands might not have a shot at induction but nice for their resume. It gives more room for Prog artists and Rap and some other overlooked genres of music.I would take the 6 most voted artists inducted maybe 7 if there's a tie. Just two cents from KING!!! KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 05/24/2015 @ 02:48am

I think these 10 groups or artists have best chance of being inducted RRHOF 2016.
1.Deep Purple 2.Moody Blues 3.Chicago 4.Nine Inch Nails 5.Duran Duran 6.Willie Nelson 7.The Cure 8.Steve Miller 9.Janet Jackson 10.War/Chic

There seems to be much support for Deep Purple. Recent inductees like KISS, Rush, Hall & Oates etc.probably will vote for them. Think it's Deep Purple's time.

Nine Inch Nails looks like a safe bet to make it. Almost were inducted last year.

Think either Chic or War is inducted. That would get 1 of them in. This Chic thing is getting embarrassing. Hope they finally are inducted.

Duran Duran and The Cure might fight for 1 spot. Either would be worthy of induction.

Like to see Moody Blues finally receive induction. They deserve it.

Female artist will be interesting. Hoping for Janet Jackson but would not be surprised to see Stevie Nicks or Pat Benatar get inducted.

This could be a year where groups with multiple nominations are inducted to break the logjam. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 05/29/2015 @ 20:59pm

I think these 10 groups or artists have best chance of being inducted RRHOF 2016.

1.Deep Purple 2.Moody Blues 3.Chicago 4.Nine Inch Nails 5.Duran Duran 6.Willie Nelson 7.The Cure 8.Steve Miller 9.Janet Jackson 10.War/Chic

Posted by KING on Friday, 05.29.15 @ 20:59pm
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KING,

No acknowledgements of the newly eligible artists? Do you not think that perhaps a spot or two may be taken by the Smashing Pumpkins, Alice in Chains, etc.?

I'd agree w/you on more than a few of the folks you've mentioned, but I'm not sure they'll all be shown the entrance in Cleveland in the next yr., or even two yrs. In maybe four or five yrs., they may all get in, gradually.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 05/30/2015 @ 16:53pm

Cheesecrop

Saw your post. Think AIC and Smashing Pumpkins will be inducted but not 1st ballot. One poster brought up a good point. NIN couldn't make it 1st time eligible didn't see Smashing making it as well 1st time.

I think AIC deserves 1st ballot but Nirvana and Pearl Jam will and receive more adulation. Don't know why. Maybe, Layne's serious addiction prevented AIC from putting out material before his death and there was a delay in putting out Black. Nearly 15 yrs.

Deep Purple I think best chance of induction. Lot of support their way. I guess Smashing Pumpkins would have the best chance 1st time eligible making it induction. Billy Corrigan has so much respect industry and they had a large volume of hits. Partial to the songs 1979 and Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

This should be interesting 2015-2016 election cycle. They have to settle this Chic thing. Probably see some recycled nominees War, The Spinners, Gram Parsons. KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 05/30/2015 @ 18:04pm

Yes? Billy Idol? Journey? Cmon!!

Posted by Chaz on Wednesday, 06/3/2015 @ 21:45pm

Here's my 2015 RRHOF nominations.1.Duran Duran 2. Deep Purple 3.Stevie Nicks 4.Judas Priest 5.Nine Inch Nails 6.Tommy James & The Shondells 7.Smashing Pumpkins 8.Chicago 9.Lionel Richie 10.Peter, Paul &Mary 11.Kool and The Gang 12.Sting 13.Janet Jackson 14.NWA 15.Moody Blues 16. War 17.Roxy Music 18.Def Leppard. KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 06/4/2015 @ 22:50pm

"Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll."

They (RRHOF) say that record sales, # of hits, awards, popularity, etc. don't matter. It could easily be argued that any artist or group that has a hit or a grammy or a gold album has done it's small part in aiding the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

Sports hall of fame voters rely heavily on player statistics when voting because it is a way to compare players, especially from different eras.

Popularity is a criteria to get into the RRHOF; not fan popularity, popularity with the hall voters.

Posted by Joel on Wednesday, 06/17/2015 @ 16:57pm

i just finished watching 2015 inductions and Stevie Ray Vaughan was inducted before a man that obviously influenced him and every guitarist there that played tribute to Vaughan.. i am speaking of the greatest american Axe to ever live, a man who turned down the Rolling Stones..ROY BUCHANAN .. i realize he was a troubled soul but for influence on an entire generation of guitar players he should be in the HOF.

Posted by joe garofalo on Thursday, 06/25/2015 @ 04:36am

What would Rock and Roll be without bands like Boston, ELP, Styx, Yes, Chicago. They are not in, but artist like Green day, and Joan Jett are in.
Neither one of these 2 artist can even hold a candle next to the number of top 10 hits, that any one of them has produced. something needs to change.

Posted by Tim Davidson on Thursday, 07/16/2015 @ 10:07am

Why haven't the Osmonds been nominated? In the business for over 50 years and a lot of hits. Donny has recorded 60 albums by himself. Jackson 5 is in Why not the Osmonds?

Posted by Geri on Friday, 07/17/2015 @ 13:31pm

The Doobie Brothers. Epitamises Rock & Roll.and with their massive number of hit songs,#1's, and 40 decades of continuous recording and concerts.Also, you " can 2 birds with one stone" with Michael McDonald. Side note, when we thought they would never have a hit again (specialy without McDonald ) original lead singer with band scored a top 10 in the 1990's with " Doctor".Still recording with the last 2 CD's selling reasonably well considering the market this digital pirating days.

Posted by chris francis on Wednesday, 08/5/2015 @ 02:55am

Where did all of these choreographed dance routines nonsense come from? What if anything, does this have to do with induction into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame? The way that I see it, it is a detractor from musical excellence. Also appearing topless on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine with your boyfriend covering your breasts has nothing whatsoever to do with musical excellence under any circumstances whatsoever.

What criteria should be met for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame instead? In my honest opinion, it should be:

1. Musical Excellence
2. Lyrical magnificence
3. The ability to write at least 75% of your own songs and lyrics on your own without outside support.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 08/8/2015 @ 04:55am

And said artist with one of the most iconic Rolling Stone covers of all time meets these criteria - and then some.

Her cultural impact is undeniable. Her influence on her peers and especially this younger generation is widely felt. Her nomination is inevitable.

She's making waves again in 2015 by ditching the traditional record label routine and creating her own. She's STILL in control.

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 08/8/2015 @ 07:31am

ENIGMATICUS

You bring up a good point about these sing and dance bands and choreography scenes. The Musical Excellence component is lost in these artists and sometimes they are similar. Can't remember their names.

On Janet Jackson, I think she will be inducted in the next 5 years. The 2016 induction year will be her best chance. Miss Janet will turn 50 a big milestone and I think it will be 30 yr anniversary of Control. Like Duran Duran,JJ had too many hit songs and success in album sales to ignore. I think most Jackson fans will admit that Janet's voice didn't soar like a Celine Dion or Mariah Carrey but it is a good voice. Combination dancing and singing, Janet Jackson has few peers. Her collaborations with MJ in Scream The King Of Pop cements her legacy. She Janet Jackson will be inducted RRHOF. KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 08/8/2015 @ 18:54pm

Enigmaticus, your criteria are absolute horse hockey. I try not to troll you too hard, but this is absolute nonsense. Your criteria are a clear attempt to stack the deck for art rock and prog rock only. Let's start in reverse order:

3. 75%? Really? So that means goodbye to Elvis Presley among a whole slew of other hitmakers of the '60s who are in. This is also an egregious insult to songwriters. This is also a bald-faced denial of the idea of specific gifts. Some are meant to be writers, others to play, others to sing. Each one is excellent in their own unique facet, but it takes them all to make a song truly great. Otherwise, you get a bunch of mediocre jack-of-all-trade-but-master-of-none bands. And that quite frankly defines 70s arena rock and perhaps why the Hall is so slow to give every arena-rock band a pass into the Hall... they tried to do it all, and could only do an average job in their composite score. And this doesn't even scratch the surface of acknowledging the racism in the record industry either.

2. Lyrical magnificence. So first off, no instrumental bands, huh? No Ventures or Booker T. And The M.G.'s, or Duane Eddy? That's utterly ridiculous right there. Second, some of the greatest, most important, and most influential songs in rock'n'roll are lyrically simple. "Shake it up baby, twist and shout, come on come on baby, come on and work it out." That ain't exactly Langston Hughes level stuff, but if you're gonna tell me "Twist And Shout" isn't an important record, you're off your chum. Let's not ignore lyrically simple greats like "Rock Around The Clock," "The Twist," "Land Of 1000 Dances", "Let Me Be Your Teddy Bear", "Do You Love Me", or "I Got You (I Feel Good)" because the lyrics don't reach into the abstractosphere to remind us that what we say about his company is what we say about society.

3. Musical Excellence... well, this is what the Hall always tries to honor, the most important criterion, but let's not kid ourselves.... this is highly subjective. I personally think Madonna is pure dreck, but she's in. I think Geddy Lee sounds like Pinky from Animaniacs, but Rush is in. I'll take solid soul over prog any day of the week, but that doesn't mean prog shouldn't be represented as well. Just because you don't personally care for it doesn't mean it can't be argued that it is still excellent.... something we all need to remember, even me.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08/8/2015 @ 22:09pm

Philip,

I said that those were my criteria, not the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame's criteria, but having to meet those criteria, from now on, would definitely prevent mediocre artists from being inducted.

Does it stack the deck in favor of "art rock" bands? Perhaps, but it does not exclude genres. As far as purely instrumental bands being inducted, I 1have no heartache with that one, but it would prevent groups like Hanson from ever being considered for induction. Additionally, it would ensure that artists whose work is exemplary would not be excluded. My bottom line is this, "much like schoolwork, if you did not do your own work, you should not graduate, or in this case: be inducted!"

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/9/2015 @ 05:05am

On the contrary, I think it would open the floodgates for mediocre bands only, since they're the ones that delude themselves into thinking they can do it all, and maybe they can do one or two aspects, but overall, they cannot do all of it well. There are people who can't sing but can write amazing lyrics. They should be inducted as Non-Performers. And there are those that don't get the inspiration to write their own lyrics, but they bring amazing life to the words and melodies others wrote. They should be inducted as performers.

The 25 year rule is the framework that ensures Hanson will never get inducted. You can relax your worried mind on that.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 08/9/2015 @ 20:42pm

Enigmaticus: Since you put it out there, I was thinking about your criteria, and I have a bit of a question for you:

If you believe an artist should only be inducted through, among others, lyrical excellence and writing 75% of the songs the band sings...would you exclude the Grateful Dead?

Posted by SotN on Monday, 08/10/2015 @ 00:09am

In the early days, many bands did not write their own lyrics, they had a dedicated lyricist who was
employed by the band for that purpose. As far as I know, Robert Hunter had written the lyrics for The Grateful Dead. Peter Seinfeld had written the lyrics for King Crimson and a Cornish Poetess named Thatcher had written the lyrics for Renaissance. Also, friend Sue Ennis had greatly contributed to Heart's success.

I do not have a problem with those individuals who have already been inducted, or those older rock artists. I am referring to those newer artists who have yet to be inducted. In my opinion, if they contributed only a miniscule amount to their music and lyrics, then they should not be inducted.

What I am referring to are not those previously mentioned artists, but the ones who write maybe two words in a given song and receive a full songwriting credit, just because of who they are, or who they know.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 08/10/2015 @ 01:09am

Geez - we get it man. You don't want Janet Jackson inducted. Can you let it go? Your thinly veiled remarks are comical.

Beyonce fits perfectly into your songwriting example. Add a word here - add a hum there. Boom...songwriting credit received.

That is NOT the case with Janet Jackson. You might want to educate yourself a bit. She's FAR more involved than many give her credit. You can ask Jimmy Jam himself. He's always on twitter sharing images of past albums/projects and guess who's handwriting you'll see? Janet's. From decades ago. There was heavy collaboration throughout each project, with the exception of 2008's DIscipline.

Posted by Mike on Monday, 08/10/2015 @ 09:29am

Which brings up another excellent point.... what if you don't get the inspiration for your records, but you hear a demo, and WHAM it hits you. You know you want that song, and you know how you want it to sound... different, better from the demo. Not only do you sing on the record, but you produce it to sound exactly how you hear it in your head. You're producing your own records, even if not writing or composing it. Does that mean nothing? I think it means a hell of a lot.

But again, even more to it, even in the context of modern artists, demanding your stipulations, you aren't getting excellence only, you're getting mediocrity only, because almost no one can actually do it all, do it well, and do it consistently, and if you were to ask around, I bet you'd find a lot of the acts you hawk for don't pass the muster to a lot of people who aren't you. It's just a bad suggestion. Heart in the right place, but not a good suggestion.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 08/10/2015 @ 21:08pm

Enigma/Philip - Very interesting take on who should be in/out. I side w/both of you on certain things.

First off, I'm with Enigma on the notion of dance/pop, as it's all about the choreography, and nothing about the music. Problem here is that it's all about pop, & nothing about rock right now. Pop is easier to produce (rap, dance, R&B takes very little these days, as it's all being done in a studio & honed to perfection). It all looks like a bad version of "42nd Street", but it works, cause of the pre-planning.

The key is to make sure there's no chance for the musicians to take off on flights of inspiration (a.k.a. the jam), cause you cannot choreograph flights of musical fancy. We can't have musicians soloing over potential corporate sponsorship time now, can we? :)

At the same time, Philip has a point regarding what you were saying. Musical excellence is subject to the particular style the musician likes. Is George Jones brilliant to someone in Yes? Perhaps. Flip the two and ask the same question. Once again, perhaps. However, if you were to ask Merle Haggard about Jones, or King Crimson about Yes, you would probably receive rave reviews (providing there was no personal animosity between those in question). In addition, I see where he's coming from regarding writers, especially in the first 10-15 yrs. of rock. Even an already enshrined group such as Cream used an underground poet, Pete Brown, for inspiration ("I Feel Free" was written by him).

In addition I believe it was Philip who described the 70's rock acts as "jack of all trades, master of none". Initially I used to feel that way, but the more I look at it, the more I feel that it simply amounted to the lack of outside social baggage they could bring to the party. The 60's crowd were controlling the rock press when all those mid-70's acts that are routinely panned as "rawk" showed up. Fact is, the revolution the 60's jobs so eagerly hoped for was finished. Those 70's groups pushed the music forward, but because they had no alleged higher purpose available to them to subscribe to, they were written out of the picture. They had the misfortune to show up right after everyone in the rock press realized "it's over". For me, "rawk" is coded terminology for "60's whipping boy" rock groups.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 08/11/2015 @ 06:16am

There are a few tests I use to see if a group or singer is RRHOF Worthy. One is my inclusion test. I'll write a group next to some of the legends to see if they stand up. I'll take 2 bands Duran Duran and Survivor. Now inclusion test. David Bowie, Queen, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, The Who, Duran Duran, U2, The Beatles, Survivor, Bob Dylan. In this test, Survivor would fall out but Duran Duran doesn't look that out of place. It would say to me Duran Duran is RRHOF worthy.

Another test is my Eraser test. I'll take an eraser and erase a group's name. I'll use Def Leppard as an example. Could I tell the story of Rock without this group? In Def Leppard's case, they had 2 diamond albums Pyromania and Hysteria in 80's plus the success of Pyromania helped similar bands get their music played on radio. They influenced later bands and have strong longevity. My view is Def Leppard was an important group and deserve RRHOF.

Another test is what I call Instant Reaction. Take 5-10 groups. Say them out loud or write them down. Here are some of my Instant Reaction Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. 1.Iron Maiden YES 2.Kool & The Gang YES 3.Pixies NO 4.Soundgarden YES 5.Blink 182 NO 6.Moody Blues YES 7.Kansas NO 8.Journey YES 9.Human League NO 10. The Cure YES.

Sure, this isn't scientific but I remember in high school and college...They say your 1st guess on answer is usually the best guess. Easy tests to do maybe 5 minutes. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 18:45pm

Who the heckvotes. For hot. Where is. Tommy James,Rep speedwagon,Styx,non jovial deep purple. &the linkers. Help us rockers

Posted by william on Thursday, 09/17/2015 @ 00:23am

Although I don't entirely agree with KING (Duran Duran should be in the Hall, but they are NOT comparable to Queen or Stevie Wonder), his 'Eraser' test is an excellent point. Namely: Can I tell Rock n Roll's story accurately if a certain group never existed? I can easily throw out 40-50% of the names brought up here using that criteria.

There are exceptions, of course: Bon Jovi and Journey don't do well on the old I&I, but they've become so goddamn ubiquitous that I wouldn't scream about them being inducted. I could be making a case for Mariah Carey here as well? (Although she is influential)

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 09/17/2015 @ 08:52am

Why are The Moody Blues not inductees already???

Posted by JW on Saturday, 09/19/2015 @ 08:03am

So past stars like CONNIE FRANCIS, BOBBY RYDELL, BOBBY VEE, PAUL ANKA or FRANKIE AVALON who ALL sold a ton of records, topped the charts means nothing? So some rapper who made one chart song gets in because he changed music? This is no hall of fame, it's based for the music that the so called board liked, who were not around when the 'real' rock & roll started all this.I just don't understand their reasons, they make no sense except to amuse themselves. Someday someone will make a 'real' rock & roll hall of fame. This place is the ROCK & ROLL HALL OF SHAME.E

Posted by MIKE VOYTEK on Tuesday, 09/29/2015 @ 18:10pm

How would groups like The Grass Roots, The Moody Blues, and Bon Jovi get nominated?? I am curious as they all played and continue to play a large part of Rock and Roll history.

Thanks

Posted by Geary Zale on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 18:48pm

If the criteria are "...had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll...", then where is Lonnie Mack? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Mack

Posted by Steve on Sunday, 10/18/2015 @ 13:09pm

people are telling me that johnny maestro is not eligible for induction, I would like to know if this is true and if so why?

Posted by daniel dippel on Thursday, 12/10/2015 @ 09:08am

That's not true. There's no reason why he wouldn't be eligible. Ask those "people" for their justification.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 12/10/2015 @ 09:45am

I think it's a joke that The Doobie Brothers have been passed over all these years A 4 time Grammy award winning band one of the biggest acts in the early 70's and they're still rocking today C'MON. MAN

Posted by Ken. Ferguson on Thursday, 12/17/2015 @ 07:32am

I think Johnny hallyday should be part of it he has promoted rock fo years and still the biggest rock star in France and some of the show he did where amazing including his rester vivant show some credit should be given

Posted by claude Alain Solliard on Thursday, 01/7/2016 @ 03:25am

type of influencial impact made on and within the music industry as well as any impacts on and within the general public of their time and do they still have that influential impact today's society. Did they revolutionalize or help to revolutionalize the music industry into what it is today. Did they break through or help to break through any musical barriers/walls that are no longer exist today. The hidden meanings and stories behind the contents of their song lyrics if any. Did they and/ or do they inspire/influence people into choosing the musical career path

Posted by JadeRose on Friday, 01/22/2016 @ 07:36am

The "criteria" is fine. However, it should be worded as "an artist's debut RECORDING must be at least 25 years old" to be eligible.

Obviously, many early artists (from the 1950s) only recorded singles. That's what they have to make clear first. Then it's all subjective after that.

Posted by VFT on Sunday, 03/20/2016 @ 21:52pm

When will Lonnie Mack get inducted ?

Posted by Bill on Tuesday, 03/22/2016 @ 23:48pm

Biggest snub is Judas Priest. They have to be in next year,it's just that simple. Then right after them I'd put Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy & Blue Oyster Cult. I love Cheap Trick but how are they deemed "Hall Worthy" & B.O.C. aren't even mentioned? I'm NOT upset with Cheap Trick either, just using them to demonstrate the random arbitrary nominations I see floating around. Judas Priest however not being inducted doesn't seem arbitrary - it seems to point to a bias against Metal. Genres like Rap & Punk Rock have their founding forefathers in, how is it that metal doesn't. I know groups like GNR & Metallica had to feel kind of sheepish being inducted before some of their heroes like Deep Purple & Judas Priest. The Deep Purple omission has been corrected, it's WAY PAST time to correct the omission that is Judas Priest!

Posted by Jim on Monday, 05/9/2016 @ 00:35am

In my above post I want it clear that I don't expect a group like GnR a few years ago to be nominated and elected to pass and say "Until Deep Purple, Judas Priest & so & so get in we don't want to be considered!" No - you take the honor because it might not come back around. When I said "heroes" I also meant to use the all important word that the Hall places a lot of importance on - "INFLUENCE". They were very influential & innovative. Bands like Motley Crue & Def Leppard might have sold more records & charted more hits (they DID) but if we remember what the Hall says it goes by and what it doesn't go by, then Judas Priest's influence should definitely weigh heavily in their future. Def Leppard followed Judas Priest by 10 years, so did Motley Crue. Someone above said something about the test " if so & so never existed would the music scene be different" and while I say that helps Def Leppard & Motley Crue to some degree that STATEMENT was made for Judas Priest's INCLUSION to the HoF!

Posted by Jim on Monday, 05/9/2016 @ 00:52am

Crook of Shit...
Diversity of music?
How about popularity? Trail blazer?
These people are so full of themselves and full of s..t.
I wonder if they would reveal who they are and what they do.
I see trash like NWA and Public Enemy are in. That is total S H I T. Sorry. If you need to curse that is not music. Sorry, for my language. Hey, they let it in.

Posted by John on Sunday, 06/12/2016 @ 21:07pm

"If you need to curse that is not music."

I see you left the following off of your list:

Guns 'n Roses
Paul Simon
Metallica
Patti Smith
The Doors
Frank Zappa

...and more...

Posted by dmg on Sunday, 06/12/2016 @ 21:30pm

Connie Frances should be in the rock and hall of fame. long over due and over look. just look at her success in the business from the 50s thru 60s her records dont lie. international fame, songs in many different languages she had hit records in plus first woman to have million record sales. the rock and roll hall of fame must be sleeping. other artist are in who done less. and she has is not. i think its about time for her to be inducted.

Posted by richard on Tuesday, 08/23/2016 @ 16:22pm

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Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/17/2016 @ 19:31pm

After scrolling through posts going back to 2009, it's apparent that Harry Chapin was not as influential as I thought, and that's really sad.

Posted by ElliesGram on Thursday, 10/20/2016 @ 12:13pm

http://www.songhall.org/forms/shof_membership.pdf

If you are not a member of the music industry you only qualify for lifetime membership with the Songwriters Hall of Fame. It will cost you a one-time payment of $1000.00, check or money order by mail. This will allow you to become a voting member of the Songwriters Hall Of Fame. You will get your ballots in the mail. The link to the application is above.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 18:48pm

Song Hall Membership online application - More recent link
http://songhall.org/join
http://songhall.org/join/application

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/22/2016 @ 18:55pm

While I agree the GROUP Journey deserves to be inducted, not ALL that are being inducted should be, and anyone that is currently in the band should NOT be excluded. Just because somebody played with the group more than 25 years ago, (for a couple of years and NOT from the beginning), doesn't really qualify THEM either. While I agree, Steven Perry should be inducted because he was the voice of Journey, so should Arnel Pineda. He is the CURRENT voice and has been for nearly 10 years.

Posted by Catt Cadelina on Wednesday, 01/4/2017 @ 12:27pm

Why hasnt Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull been mentioned? How many bands were able to blend blues, English folk,jazz, and classical music...and Ian was a road warrior touring to FORTY plus years. Too many of our rock and roll idols are passing away. Let Tull in the Hall so that Ian Anderson can know that his musical legacy was recognuzed!!🎵

Posted by JsHorton on Friday, 01/13/2017 @ 21:55pm

Please consider Wierd Al for the r&r hsll of fame. Many of his parodies or better than the original; his original work is great too. Please consider he got permission to parody other artists works and backed down from artists who objected. (Coollio was a mixup according to Al, and Amish Paradise is great).

Posted by Jefferson on Friday, 02/17/2017 @ 13:36pm

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Posted by Jefferson on Friday, 02/17/2017 @ 13:40pm

This is supposed to be Rock'n Roll hall of fame not everything under the sun.You have rappers and some country artists.Plus Bon Jovi needs to be in there as they have contributed alot to music.

Posted by Cindy McBeth on Saturday, 04/8/2017 @ 10:27am

@ Cindy McBeth

Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis and Buddy Holly all came out of the Country genre. a lot of 70's rock was a fusion of Rock, Country, Blues and Folk and some of these artist are classified as Country. If you mention some names I might be able to show you why they should be considered a part of Rock and Roll.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 04/8/2017 @ 19:55pm

Todd Rundgren.....Todd Rundgren........Todd Rundgren
Why is he not in thr RRHOF?
He is the essence of what the award should be.
His artistry spans beyond a few sell out crowds and hit records, but, but the bending of innovation and technology has made him a hallmark in the industry. N.A.M.M. Semis to think he is a pioneer in his art ( Honored for his contributions to the music industry in 2014).
Todd has produced many of the albums from bands and artist in the HOF (The Band, New York Dolls, Ringo Starr).
Other Rundgren produced artists included Meatloaf, Inxs,Grand Funk Railroad and Hall and Oates and Badfinger.
He is still making his own records (White Knight to be released in May) and touring ( Can' wait to see this innovator in May).
After over 47 years of making music, quality and longevity must account for something in your nomination process?
Oh, I forgot, he is also touring with some new eye named Ringo Starr again this summer.
Todd Rundgren......Todd Rundgren .......Todd Rundgren

Thanks your for your time and consideration.

Joemama

Posted by Joemama on Sunday, 04/9/2017 @ 22:05pm

I live in New Haven where Fred Parris lives and recorded the song "In the Still of the Night" and many others. Fred is 81 years old. Within the last 3 years, the town of New Haven has woke and honored Fred multiple times - at a City Hall Event, on a concert on the New Haven green, at the Schubert Theatre. I wonder if the RRHOF would consider Fred. The influence of the Five Satins can not be overstated. Hoping the RRHOF gets with the program and honors him. He deserves it.

Posted by sam goldenberg on Thursday, 04/27/2017 @ 11:01am

FRL Regulars

I'm curious if you like The Bangles or The Go-Go's better. Do you think The Go-Go's or The Bangles have a case for RRHOF induction? KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 04/27/2017 @ 11:59am

Both had a pretty short span of success (about 4 years of peak fame for each), which plays a bit against them; but a number of male artists with similarly short shelf lives have gone in.

One of the most important criteria is to simply ask, "Can the story of Rock And Roll be told without them?" I don't think you can tell that story without mentioning the The Go-Gos' achievement of being the first all-female band to score a #1 album.

It was in fact their success that helped to lead to the easy acceptance of a band like The Bangles later in the decade. They were influential in showing female bands that they could indeed be successful in the Rock and Roll genre.

The Go-Gos were also a legit part of the critical Los Angeles underground Punk scene of the late 70's; so they are a commercially friendly face for the Hall to use to begin to explore that influential music scene.

The Bangles had a bit more singles chart success than The Go-Gos with 8 top 40 hits, 5 of which were top 5 and two of those #1 songs (Go-Gos only had 5 top 40 hits, with the biggest going to #2) , and were the commercial face of the "Paisley Underground" - but I think it's actually kind of easy to tell the story of Rock And Roll without mentioning them. I'm not certain I can see all that much long term influence either, unlike the Go-Gos. So I think they are a bit of a weak option, though I was always more a fan of the Bangles than I ever was of the Go-Gos. I try to keep my personal tastes out of the way and just evaluate historical impact, length of career, long term influence, and innovations.

Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 04/27/2017 @ 14:13pm

KING, definitely prefer The Go Gos. Both are a bit lacking on amount of great songs. I do think 'We Got the Beat' and 'Our Lips are Sealed' are better songs than anything The Bangles put out.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04/28/2017 @ 07:58am

There is definitely a better case for the Go-Go's. I agree with Shrek when I look at an artist potentially getting nominated (or inducted) for the Rock - 'Can you tell the history of Rock & Roll without (X Artist).' Sometimes it's tricky, because we let our own fandom/personal tastes dictate our actual perception of an artist's legacy and accomplishments. That's the differences between the movers and shakers of Rock & Roll. Even if I am not a fan of 'X, Y or Z', I always try to see how other voters think. Sometimes I see it more in other artists than others, but that's how I look at HOF contenders.

Back to the Go-Go's, they remind me of the Marvelettes. At first glance, they both have pretty thin resumes. The Marvelettes are mainly known for two hit singles - 'Please Mr. Postman' and 'Don't Mess With Bill.' However, when I researched their discography, I was fairly impressed with their lesser-known hits. They were very bit as worthy as other Motown groups/acts of their time. The problem thou becomes they were almost always seen in a lesser light than the Supremes and Martha and the Vandellas. The Marvelettes were a great girl group and deserve to be in the HOF as much as the Vandellas and The Ronettes (a non-Motown girl group known only for 3 hit songs - 'Be My Baby', 'Walking in the Rain', 'Baby, I Love You'). The problem with the Marvelettes is that they were afterthoughts when compared to the Supremes, Vandellas, Temptations, Four Tops, among others. Gordy didn't see them as valuable as the groups just mentioned. The Marvelettes haven't gotten their proper due yet. Hopefully they will be nominated again soon.

So why bring up the Marvelettes and compare them to the Go-Go's? Besides a perceived thin resume of hit singles/albums, both groups/bands had a extremely short amount of time frame of success in the spotlight. Granted, the Marvelettes lasted a bit longer than The Go-Go's, that's still worth pointing out.

The Go-Go's, on the other hand, are known mainly for 4 hit singles - 'Our Lips Are Sealed', 'Vacation,' 'Head Over Heals' and 'We Got the Beat.' All three songs are radio friendly and among the best known songs of that decade. The album 'Beauty and the Beat' has only grown in critical acclaim over the years and sold millions of copies. It is significant to point out that album was the 1st #1 record on the Billboard 200 that comprised entirely of female musicians playing their own instruments and writing their own songs. It is also one of the best debut albums of the entire rock era IMO. That hasn't happened before or since 1981. And that album does appear on Rolling Stone's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time, which accounts for something since many former and present RS writers on the nominating committee. But that's all most people know of their discography. The Go-Go's, IMO, actually played an important role in the transformation/development of Punk Rock and New Wave in the late 70s and early 80s. By 1981 thou, they added more of a pop-friendly sound to their music which is why they became so popular. Also like how Blondie shifted from Punk to Pop/Disco with their hit 'Heart of Glass.' Some purists would call them selling out, but I think they were adopting what was popular at that time (if that makes any sense, although it is still kinda selling out).

Personally, I think the amount of time an artist achieves and/or maintains success is entirely irrelevant for Rock Hall consideration. It should be about the influence and innovation that the questioned artist borrowed from past musicians and how they influenced artists from their own time or, even better, future artists. The Go-Go's influenced countless female (and yes also male) artists with their hard-driving beats, faced-paced and infectious hooks, and high octane energy via live performances. The Go-Go's are definitely worthy as HOF contenders and I expect to see them on a ballot within the next 5 years. Although they might be a tough sell for some voters, I think it would take a couple of nominations before they would receive induction.

On a side note, the next female artists I think who should be considered/nominated for the Rock Hall are the following (in no particular order) -

1. Kate Bush
2. Janet Jackson
3. Pat Benatar
4. The Go-Go's
5. The Marvelettes
6. Eurythmics
7. Whitney Houston
8. Mariah Carey
9. Sonic Youth (aka Kim Gordon)
10. Nina Simone
11. Siouxsie and the Banshees
12. Mary Wells

Posted by Nick on Friday, 04/28/2017 @ 11:15am

KING,

I happen to prefer The Bangles over The Go-Gos. Overall, I think that The Bangles are more "prog" adjacent.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 04/29/2017 @ 11:29am

I personally like The Bangles more than The Go-Gos, but I also acknowledge that The Go-Gos have a more influential body of work and are probably more deserving. I would be happy to see either inducted, however.

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 04/29/2017 @ 13:29pm

Who Should/Will Be The First All-White Female Group Inducted Into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?

The Shangri-Las
The McGuire Sisters
The Andrews Sisters
Fanny
Luv'd Ones
The Go-Go's
The Bangles

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 07:18am

I consider The Shangri-Las the leaders of this pack.

Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 11:28am

Um, Roy... does that even matter?

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 11:40am

FRL REGULARS
Going to be May soon but it would be both fascinating and cool if there could be a consensus candidate to throw support to this election cycle. I think most agree Moody Blues is one such band. Bad Company could be another since everyone sings the praises of Paul Rodgers. Love his vocal talent as well. Maybe, it's one of the underrated R&B groups Bill G. has written extensively about. Maybe Ben E. King solo or The Marvelettes. That would be exciting as a group of music fans to weave support for a candidate. See if that candidate receives a nomination and induction. What do you think? KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 18:00pm

You left out the Angels who were the FIRST all-white girl group to have a #1 hit with "My Boyfriend's Back" in August 1963, fifteen months before "LOTP" by the Shangri-las hit #1.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 21:16pm

KING,

If I had to pick one artist that we should band together to support... well, as much as I really would rather get behind the Spinners or the Marvelettes, I think the one we really need to support is Chic. Chic needs to get back on the ballot and inducted. They are deserving, Nile should be inducted twice, and we need to call BS on the side-door and cherry-picking inductions for the good of the institution. Right now, they're thinking they did what they needed to do with the AME induction for Nile Rodgers, but I say don't let them off the hook. Get back at it, and get Chic on the ballot and inducted this coming cycle.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04/30/2017 @ 22:34pm

Who Should/Will Be The First All-White Female Group Inducted Into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?

The Angels
The Shangri-Las
The McGuire Sisters
The Andrews Sisters
Luv'd Ones
The GTOs
Fanny
The Runaways
The Go-Go's
The Bangles
Sleater-Kinney
Dixie Chicks
The Spice Girls

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 06:17am

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 06:22am

Spice Girls aren't all white...

Posted by dmg on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 15:20pm

For the life of me I can not understand how RUN DMZ
The Beastie Boys, and now Tupac got inducted and the HALL and the Moody Blues have been overlooked. They are ne of the most innovative and original bands ever. Their distinctive sound makes it almost impossible not to know its them when you hear them.
I have boycotted the induction ceremonies, stopped buying Rolling Stone mag and will NEVER go back to the Hall

Posted by toni polito on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 16:10pm

Sleater-Kinney is the best of that lot & as someone else pointed out, The Spice Girls are not all white.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 16:22pm

Roy: I'm a big advocate of the Indigo Girls getting in the Hall. Out of the ones you brought up, I think Shangri-Las is the most likely to get a nomination sometime soon. They are the sort of under-the-radar group that tends to get randomly nominated, and they have a legacy insofar as their style influenced Amy Winehouse.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 21:05pm

About the Induction Criteria, dmg wrote:
Spice Girls aren't all white...
Monday, 05.1.17 @ 15:20pm

I had a brain fart.

The Indigo Girls are a duo, not a group.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 22:10pm

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 22:14pm

Again, Roy.... is it really that important that we need to make a point to discuss this? Let alone lay serious conjectures about it?

Posted by Philip on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 22:41pm

Roy, you forgot one.

Mother Maybelle and the Carter Sisters aka 2nd generation Carter Family

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 05/1/2017 @ 23:56pm

I believe Judas Priest checks most boxes of a potential nominee. This should be their year of nomination. The Trinity Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin have already been inducted. Judas Priest helped push heavy metal into the 80's with classic songs and were well-respected musicians. I like the Turbo CD with the synthesizers. When you think of heavy metal, you think Judas Priest. KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 05/2/2017 @ 00:20am

I know that several of the group "Raspberries" believe they should be inducted, one of the reasons being they are from Cleveland. As much as I enjoy them, I just don't think they have what it takes to be inducted...opinions?

Posted by Missy on Wednesday, 05/3/2017 @ 09:06am

While I love Chaka Khan made the 2017 Nominees, you can't have Chaka Khan without including Rufus. Rufus & Chaka Khan together were one of the most influential R&B groups of the late 70s. You couldn't listen to radio without at least one of their (now classic) songs coming over the airwaves. No doubt they should be in the RRHOF together as one.

Posted by Adair on Wednesday, 05/3/2017 @ 09:21am

****THE RRHOF'S UNSPOKEN BAN ON CLASSIC R&B****

All of you who are regular posters and /or viewers of this site have heard me address this issue before.

Why have classic R&B and the artists who make it been unceremoniously BANNED from induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ?
Some of you may say "that's not true" . Look at how many R&B artists have been inducted in past years.
I'm not talking about "past years". I'm talking about NOW.
Let's talk about groups for a minute:
The VERY LAST R&B-identified group that was actually inducted into the HoF by the voting body was LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS.
And that was in 2009...EIGHT YEARS AGO.
Since then , 4 other R&B groups have been inducted: But NOT by the voters.
These were Special Inductions,ones that the voters couldn't shoot down:
The "5" Royales in the "Early Influence" category

and The Miracles, The Famous Flames and The Midnighters-three groups that SHOULD have been inducted with their original lead singers-the fact that they WEREN'T were as a result of the Hall's OWN screw-up.
Now, let's talk about solo artists:
Bobby Womack was inducted in 2009-the SAME YEAR that The Imperials got in.
Since then, things get shamelessly spotty.
The admistrators of the R&R HoF will not come out and tell us that they have decided to ban R&B artists from the Halls ranks in favor of RAP/HIP-HOP, but they DON'T HAVE TO.
All one has to do is look at the lists of artists that have been inducted SINCE...
Let's see just what has happened in the years since 2009. (and keep in mind that THIS is 2017, some EIGHT YEARS LATER...)

***R&B INDUCTEES SINCE 2009***

2010: 0 (Jimmy Cliff, a reggae artist was inducted)

2011 : Darlene Love (deserving, but hardly mainstream-should have been inducted with THE BLOSSOMS-Why weren't THEY inducted with her ?)and why in the Main Performer's category ? Should have gone in the Musical Excellence category.

2012: Freddie King (Blues, not R&B, and in the "Early Influence" category)again out of the mainstream. "Special Induction" artists already mentioned-not inducted by the voters.

2013: Donna Summer. They waited until she DIED before they inducted her (what a cheap shot)
,after rejecting her for years -Disco- not R&B.
Albert King - Blues, not R&B-and again, out of the mainstream (what's with this thing of inducting every Blues artist with the last name "King" ??)
Public Enemy- From this point on , Rap takes over, and R&B is completely abandoned.
Quincy Jones-also very deserving , but Jazz,Soundtracks, Producer.
2014: 0

2015: Bill Withers - Pop Singer/Songwriter .R&B ?
Hardly. The "5" Royales -already mentioned -Early Influence- not nominated or voted in by The Body.
2016: NWA- another Rap Group- Not R&B.

2017: Tupac-still ANOTHER Rapper- Can't the Hall find ANY other deserving R&B acts to induct ?

***And in the MEANTIME...***

THE FOLLOWING R&B ACTS HAVE EITHER BEEN NOMINATED , BUT NOT INDUCTED, OR NEVER CONSIDERED FOR INDUCTION ***AT ALL***...

MARY WELLS

JR. WALKER & THE ALL STARS

THE MARVELETTES

THE SPINNERS

CHAKA KHAN & RUFUS

WAR

THE J.B.'S

HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES (TEDDY PENDERGRASS)

THE POINTER SISTERS

THE COMMODORES (LIONEL RICHIE)

THE STYLISTICS

THE DRAMATICS

THE MAIN INGREDIENT

THE CHI-LITES

GENE CHANDLER

BARRY WHITE

KOOL & THE GANG

LOU RAWLS

RUBY & THE ROMANTICS

PATTI LA BELLE & THE BLUE BELLES/LA BELLE

WHITNEY HOUSTON

DIONNE WARWICK

CHUCK JACKSON

THE WHISPERS

BLUE MAGIC

SADE

ANITA BAKER

JOE SIMON

JOHNNIE TAYLOR

ASHFORD & SIMPSON

DAVID PORTER

WHITFIELD & STRONG

CHIC

JOE TEX

ELLA FITZGERALD

THE RAVENS

BROOK BENTON

THE OHIO PLAYERS

THE INTRUDERS

THE FIVE KEYS

THE IKETTES

THE FUNK BROTHERS

THE OLYMPICS

LOUIS JORDAN & THE TYMPANY FIVE

THE CHANTELS

THE FIVE STAIRSTEPS

The RRHOF will not come out and publicly say that they have banned R&B acts going forward...but they don't have to. "Actions speak louder than words"
..and their actions and intent here is quite CLEAR.
The question is...WHY ??

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 05/5/2017 @ 03:36am

Money.

The Hall's trying to attract people to the museum, and the people who are most likely to visit are the ones who myopically define "rock and roll" as "classic rock."

In a way, the Hall brought it on themselves too. First off, it was pure snobbery. The NomComm's disdain for KISS, Deep Purple, Rush, etc. was legendary. Even after KISS was announced to be an inductee, Dave Marsh kept fueling the feud's flames on Facebook, polling people to name 5 acts more deserving than KISS.
That, by the way, was pure trollbait, and boy howdy, did the trolls ever respond to that. Second, my favorite blame to lay, the class sizes. By shrinking their class sizes the way they did as early as 1988, they snubbed a lot of the classic rock darlings through the 90s, and now that the popular demand has beaten down the door with howling shrieks of demand for more metal and prog, and now the Hall is finally giving into their demands, finally surrendering their snobbery in the process. Meanwhile, they're also trying to build the bridge into the next generation of museum visitors by holding the door open for Nirvana, Green Day, Pearl Jam... and when it comes to R&B music, its child called rap music is much more conducive to their vision for the Hall.

All in the pursuit of the dollars. For the love of money...

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 05/6/2017 @ 00:34am

****MORE R&B SNUBS****

JANET JACKSON

THE MANHATTANS

THE DELFONICS

NATALIE COLE

CHUBBY CHECKER

THE MILLS BROTHERS

THE DOMINOES

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 05/6/2017 @ 05:25am

I think that how the group influenced our young lives in the 1960's should be a criteria in being selected for the Hall of Fame.

Our vote for nomination to the Hall of Fame is:
CHAD AND JEREMY.

They influenced our lives from 1965 onward to the present time. We fell in love listening to their music, got married, and still listen to their music daily 50 years later.

As far as we are concerned that is enough of a criteria for them to be nominated!!

Thank you for letting us submit our nomination.

Bob and Karin Kurcoba

Posted by Karin Kurcoba on Wednesday, 06/7/2017 @ 12:47pm

SOLO MEN FOR THE ROCK HALL

01. Roy Brown
02. Wynonie Harris
03. Ben E. King
04. Chubby Checker
05. Aaron Neville
06. Albert Collins
07. Barry White
08. Billy Preston
09. Chuck Willis
10. Joe Tex
11. Phil Ochs
12. Willie Nelson
13. Merle Haggard
14. Conway Twitty
15. George Jones
16. Kris Kristofferson
17. Gram Parsons
18. Joe Cocker
19. Warren Zevon
20. Todd Rundgren
21. Captain Beefheart
22. Steve Winwood

SOLO WOMEN FOR THE ROCK HALL

01. Sister Rosetta Tharpe
02. Ella Fitzgerald
03. Mary Wells
04. Dionne Warwick
05. Patti Labelle
06. Roberta Flack
07. Tina Turner
08. Carole King
09. Patsy Cline
10. Connie Francis
11. Dolly Parton
12. Loretta Lynn
13. Tammy Wynette
14. Judy Collins
15. Stevie Nicks
16. Carly Simon
17. Cher
18. Kate Bush
19. Chaka Khan
20. Janet Jackson
21. Whitney Houston
22. Mariah Carey

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06/17/2017 @ 20:47pm

MY MOCK ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT
60 ACTS ARE NOMINATED | 20 SOLO MEN, 20 SOLO WOMEN, 20 BANDS/GROUPS
6 WILL BE INDUCTED EVERY YEAR

THE RULES

YOU CAN ONLY VOTE FOR 6 USING ONE OF THE TWO FOLLOWING COMBINATIONS:

2 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 2 SOLO FEMALE ARTISTS, 2 BANDS/GROUPS

OR

1 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 1 SOLO FEMALE ARTIST, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

THE BALLOT

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My Ballot

Chubby Checker
Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Stevie Nicks
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores

OR

Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
The Moody Blues
Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 06:41am

I'd be happy to play along:

Willie Nelson
Todd Rundgren
Carole King
Janet Jackson
The Zombies
The Spinners

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 08:42am

If I went 2-2-2:

Chubby Checker
Billy Preston
Carole King
Janet Jackson
The Marvelettes
The Spinners

If I went 1-1-4

Chubby Checker
Carole King
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Chic
Jan And Dean

Posted by Philip on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 11:24am

I'd like to see Pat Benatar as a choice for the solo women; but since she has been snubbed, my 2-2-2 list would be:

Gram Parsons
Chubby Checker
Janet Jackson
Cher
Moody Blues
Commodores

or a 1-1-4 list would be:
Gram Parsons
Janet Jackson
Moody Blues
Commodores
Cars
Jethro Tull

Posted by Shrek on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 13:00pm

I forgot Phil Collins and Harry Nilsson. I will take out Chuck Willis and Joe Tex. I will post an updated ballot later.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 13:50pm

Too many 'baby boomer' acts, not enough from the 80's/early 90's on... #listneedssomework

Posted by EDS on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 16:10pm

Great work Roy! I would select the 1-1-4 format with Ben E. King, Stevie Nicks, The Spinners, Moody Blues, Peter, Paul & Mary, Kool And The Gang. It's difficult leaving Willie Nelson off though. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 20:33pm

I'd like to see Pat Benatar as a choice for the solo women

Posted by Shrek on Friday, 06.23.17 @ 13:00pm

Pat Benatar and Cyndi Lauper will be the next solo women I add to my Top 20 once two of the women that are already in my Top 20 are inducted by the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 22:52pm

About the Induction Criteria, EDS wrote:
Too many 'baby boomer' acts, not enough from the 80's/early 90's on... #listneedssomework
Friday, 06.23.17 @ 16:10pm

The baby boomers come first. Screw the ticket sales and the TV ratings.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 22:55pm

These bands will be added to my Top 20 once 9 of the bands from my Top 20 are inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame:

Boston, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, The Meters, War, The Pointer Sisters, The Neville Brothers, Joy Division/New Order

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 22:59pm

A MOCK ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT

60 ACTS ARE NOMINATED

20 SOLO MEN, 20 SOLO WOMEN, 20 BANDS/GROUPS

6 WILL BE INDUCTED EVERY YEAR

THE RULES

YOU CAN ONLY VOTE FOR 6 USING ONE OF THE TWO FOLLOWING COMBINATIONS:

2 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 2 SOLO FEMALE ARTISTS, 2 BANDS/GROUPS

OR

1 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 1 SOLO FEMALE ARTIST, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

THE BALLOT

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My Ballot (2-2-2)

Chubby Checker
Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Stevie Nicks
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores

OR (1-1-4)

Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
The Moody Blues
Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 23:15pm

I'll count the votes until December, when the real Rock Hall inductees are announced.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 23:17pm

Damn it, I forgot Dire Straits!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 23:22pm

A MOCK ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT

60 ACTS ARE NOMINATED

20 SOLO MEN, 20 SOLO WOMEN, 20 BANDS/GROUPS

6 WILL BE INDUCTED EVERY YEAR

THE RULES

YOU CAN ONLY VOTE FOR 6 USING ONE OF THE TWO FOLLOWING COMBINATIONS:

2 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 2 SOLO FEMALE ARTISTS, 2 BANDS/GROUPS

OR

1 SOLO MALE ARTISTS, 1 SOLO FEMALE ARTIST, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

THE BALLOT

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My Ballot (2-2-2)

Chubby Checker
Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Stevie Nicks
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores

OR (1-1-4)

Willie Nelson
Dionne Warwick
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
The Moody Blues
Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 23:33pm

I've replaced Chic with Dire Straits

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06/23/2017 @ 23:35pm

If I'm going with 2-2-2 then
Captain Beefheart and Willie Nelson
Patsy Cline and Janet Jackson
King Crimson and Thin Lizzy

But my 1-1-4 would be
Captain Beefheart
Patsy Cline
King Crimson, Thin Lizzy, The Spinners and The Moody Blues

Posted by Nicky Joe on Sunday, 06/25/2017 @ 17:01pm

I AM a Solo Artist, Music is from a Spirit beginning and only relevant by a Spiritual Entity, Rock Music is from The Renaissance Era,
The Bible lays it all out, Rock n Roll is not a New Invention but and Old craft.

#LOOK-Psalm 33:2 Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Give thanks to him with the harp, and on a guitar of ten strings, sing unto him.

You can checkout what real Rock n Roll Music should and does sound like at
https://www.numberonemusic.com/bigdru

https://www.numberonemusic.com/bigdru1

https://www.indiesound.com/bigdru

Posted by Andrew Ezell (BigDru) Wash on Monday, 06/26/2017 @ 19:38pm

ROY

Who are the 3 Top Vote Getters in the 2-2-2 and 1-1-4 ballots so far? It's been 1 of the best items on the forum in a long time. Maybe, the RRHOF will adopt a similar ballot. It gives more singers/groups chances to be inducted. Good work Sir! KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 06/30/2017 @ 00:28am

Alright, going the 2-2-2- method, I'd go with:

Chubby Checker
Warren Zevon
Carole King
Connie Francis
The Monkees
The Moody Blues

Tough ballot though. I'd support Ben E. King, Tom Jones, Phil Collins, Joe Cocker, Harry Nilsson, Barry White, Dionne Warwick, Mary Wells, Carly Simon, Kate Bush, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, the Cars, The Kingston Trio, Peter, Paul, & Mary, the Zombies, Jan & Dean, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, ELP, Kool & the Gang, Commodores, Doobie Brothers, Foreigner, the Spinners, and Dire Straits.

I'd go for Sonny & Cher instead of just Cher and Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, instead of just Captain Beefheart solo.

A lot of names I'd place in the influence genre, like Patsy Cline, Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson, Conway Twitty, Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, & George Jones, while I'd place Billy Preston in as a sideman.

Posted by Steve Z on Friday, 06/30/2017 @ 09:52am

2-2-2 LEADERS

Janet Jackson 4
Chubby Checker 4
Willie Nelson 3
Carole King 3
The Spinners 2
The Commodores 2

1-1-4 LEADERS

Willie Nelson 1
Chubby Checker 1
Gram Parsons 1
Captain Beefheart 1
Patsy Cline 1
Carole King 1
Dionne Warwick 1
Janet Jackson 1
The Moody Blues 3
The Commodores 2
Kool & The Gang 1
King Crimson 1
The Monkees 1
Thin Lizzy 1
Foreigner 1
Chic 1

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 05:17am

2-2-2 AND 1-1-4 COMBINED LEADERS

Chubby Checker 5
Janet Jackson 5
Willie Nelson 4
Carole King 4
The Commodores 4
The Moody Blues 3

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 05:30am

Should I replace Cher or Kate Bush with Diana Ross for now?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 05:33am

A MOCK ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT

60 NOMINEES - 20 SOLO MEN, 20 SOLO WOMEN, 20 BANDS/GROUPS

VOTE FOR 2 MEN, 2 WOMEN, 2 BANDS/GROUPS

OR

VOTE FOR 1 MAN, 1 WOMAN, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

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HONORABLE MENTIONS

Dick Dale, Link Wray, Harry Belafonte, Steve Winwood, Don Henley, Lionel Ritchie, Sting

Nina Simone, Cher, Pat Benatar, Cyndi Lauper

Too many bands to list…

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 06:09am

Roy,

Going with the 1, 1, 4 option:

Man: Willie Nelson

Woman: Dionne Warwick

Groups:

The Spinners
The Marvalettes
The Moody Blues
The Doobie Brothers

Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 07:31am

I'll go with my 2-2-2 plan of
Captain Beefheart
Willie Nelson
Patsy Cline
Janet Jackson
King Crimson
Thin Lizzy

Posted by Nicky Joe on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 08:40am

2-2-2:

Gram Parsons
Warren Zevon
Mary Wells
Patti Labelle
The Marvelettes
The Moody Blues

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 09:35am

If It’s 2-2-2, I’d select the following -
Gram Parsons
Harry Nilsson
Janet Jackson
Kate Bush
The Cure
The Spinners

Posted by Nick on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 13:15pm

FRL Regulars,
What would your “dream” Rock Hall ballot look like if you were the sole nominator? Let’s use 19 potential nominees, the number of nominees for the 2017 ballot. I’m curious to see what everyone picks.

1. Big Star
2. Dick Dale
3. Gram Parsons
4. Harry Nilsson
5. Janet Jackson
6. Judas Priest
7. Kate Bush
8. Kraftwerk
9. LL Cool J
10. Nine Inch Nails
11. The Cars
12. The Cure
13. The Dead Kennedys
14. The J. Geils Band
15. The Marvelettes
16. The Moody Blues
17. The Smiths
18. The Spinners
19. Whitney Houston

Last Cuts – Roxy Music, Mariah Carey, The Monkees, Depeche Mode, Bon Jovi, Connie Francis, MC5, New York Dolls, A Tribe Called Quest, Duran Duran, The Monkees, Eurthymics, Alice in Chains, War, The Replacements, T. Rex, Warren Zevon

Posted by Nick on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 13:29pm

Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force
A Tribe Called Quest
Connie Francis
Dick Dale
Foreigner
Jan & Dean
Janet Jackson
Kate Bush
Kraftwerk
Link Wray
Loretta Lynn
Mary Wells
Percy Mayfield
Radiohead
The Marvelettes
The Smiths
The Spinners
Waylon Jennings
Willie Nelson

Posted by Billy R on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 13:51pm

If the 2018 ballot consisted of this, I could die and have seen it all.

Ella Fitzgerald
Janet Jackson
John Coltrane
Joy Division
Judas Priest
King Crimson
Kraftwerk
The Moody Blues
Nina Simone
Patsy Cline
Pixies
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Roxy Music
Soundgarden

If 19 then
Chic
Connie Francis
Depeche Mode
Iron Maiden

And If 20
Faith no More

And in the highly unlikeliness they do 25
The Cure
Dolly Parton
Thin Lizzy
Toots & The Maytals
Willie Nelson

Posted by Nicky Joe on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 14:40pm

My 2-2-2 ballot, if we're still doing this...

Ben E. King
Chubby Checker
Stevie Nicks
Carly Simon
The Spinners
The Kingston Trio

My 1-1-4 ballot...

Joe Cocker
Janet Jackson
The Moody Blues
The Doobie Brothers
Dire Straits
The Cars

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 07/1/2017 @ 23:30pm

Roy, just to let you know, I'm not changing my 1-1-4 ballot. You had Chic on it earlier, and I'm not taking it off now that you've swapped them out for Dire Straits. If you want Dire Straits on there, swap them in for a band that hasn't gotten a vote yet. Chic's staying on my ballot.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 07/2/2017 @ 02:09am

19 nominees on a dream ballot, huh? Here's who I would pick, trying as best as I'm able to avoid two acts from the same sub-genre, and attempting a strong array of different strands of rock and roll.

A Tribe Called Quest
Carole King
Dire Straits
Eurythmics
Indigo Girls
Janet Jackson
Jimmy Buffett
Judas Priest
Kraftwerk
Nina Simone
Smashing Pumpkins
Radiohead
The Cure
The Spinners
The Zombies
TLC
Toots & the Maytals
Weird Al Yankovic
Willie Nelson

Any six of those could get in, and I'd be delighted.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 07/3/2017 @ 21:34pm

I'll go ahead and do this too, and this time I'm gonna shed some light on those who have not yet been nominated:

2 MALE: Joe Cocker, Todd Rundgren
2 FEMALE: Stevie Nicks, Dionne Warwick
2 GROUPS: The Commodores, The Monkees

I would like to add Petula Clark as an honorable mention among the ladies - because, if Dusty Springfield is in, why not Ms. Clark? And you're right, too many bands/groups to list or even think of. Good thinking, Roy.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 07/5/2017 @ 14:35pm

The fact that you ignore whole sub genres of music is disheartening. Such as Slayer, Motorhead, Megadeth. These acts were influential in their time, sure you picked Metallica but what of the others. You seem to choose a lot of groups from the same style from the 50s and 60s. There are many undeserving acts in the HoF that only put out a few albums and many have not heard of outside your small group of elites. This bldg has become a stain on true rock n roll. You are twisting what rock and roll stood for by letting people such as Joan Baez and NWA, really. Why not just call it the music hall of fame, then I can understand your reasoning. Does the Country HoF let in artists from other genres? I said my peace.

Posted by Terry on Thursday, 08/17/2017 @ 12:11pm

21st Century artists don't become eligible for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame until 2025! We still have a good 8 to 9 years for more 60s-70s acts to be inducted. There is a lot of catching up to do. They will all be inducted. All the old voters are still alive, nominating and voting. They are not dying.

Peter, Paul & Mary, Judy Collins, The Moody Blues, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Foreigner, Kool & The Gang, The Commodores, The Spinners and many others will be inducted by 2025!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/3/2017 @ 13:32pm

Why is it so hard for you to induct artists or wait--let me say LEGENDS such as Mary Wells or the Marvelettes? Mary should have went in the FIRST class with Aretha--THE MARVELETTES should have went in BEFORE the Supremes or at the same doggone time--then you have TWO Funk Brothers inducted and the Funk Bros are a WHOLE BODY OF MUSICIANS who are JUST as worthy. I do not get this--Mary is no longer with us--but we have THREE original Marvelettes who are still living--and a few Funk Bros--and the way we are losing legends left and right--you need to honor these people who have paved the w2ay for the artists you DO induct!

Posted by Patricia Washington on Thursday, 10/5/2017 @ 11:23am

No one group of musicians affected and impacted music like the Funk Brothers. Their genius musicianship has been copied internationally because the "copiers" wanted to learn from the best. ALL of the Funk Brothers should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Some of the persons who "appropriated" their arrangements and their music are.

Posted by RODNEY L. HURST on Thursday, 10/5/2017 @ 11:31am

Re: The Marvelettes
So misunderstood, the Marvelettes have been nominated a couple of times, but have not been inducted as of yet, what a disgrace! The Marvelettes have earned induction status long ago, something is seriously wrong.

Posted by Mary Anderson on Thursday, 10/5/2017 @ 12:12pm

Just tell me what the heck it takes to get Tower of Power inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Posted by Glenn on Friday, 10/6/2017 @ 02:06am

Massive bribes, Glenn. Massive bribes.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/6/2017 @ 06:58am

Does the music stand the test of time? How influential on culture is the recording artist?

Posted by Vincent Cobb on Saturday, 12/9/2017 @ 23:57pm

WHO SHOULD BE NOMINATED AND INDUCTED NEXT?

SECOND INDUCTIONS

01. Ben E. King
02. Carole King
03. Tina Turner

MOTOWN

01. Mary Wells
02. The Spinners
03. The Marvelettes

POP

01. Jan & Dean
02. The Monkees
03. Chubby Checker

COUNTRY

01. Patsy Cline
02. Willie Nelson
03. Dolly Parton

FOLK

01. Judy Collins
02. Peter, Paul & Mary
03. The Kingston Trio

PROG

01. Jethro Tull
02. King Crimson
03. Emerson, Lake & Palmer

JAZZ-ROCK-R&B

01. The Commodores
02. Kool & The Gang
03. Blood, Sweat & Tears

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/14/2017 @ 17:56pm

VOTE FOR 2 MALE, 2 FEMALE, 2 BANDS/GROUPS OR 1 MALE, 1 FEMALE, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

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ANOTHER LIST TO CHOOSE FROM
CANDIDATES FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
PICK 1 MALE, 1 FEMALE, 4 BANDS, OR 2, 2, 2

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Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12/16/2017 @ 10:38am

MY LIST GETS SHORTER WITH THE INDUCTIONS OF THE MOODY BLUES, DIRE STRAITS AND THE CARS

It will take 8 more years for all these bands to be inducted

01. Toto
02. Styx
03. Boston
04. Kansas
05. Foreigner
06. Jethro Tull
07. Motorhead
08. Judas Priest
09. Iron Maiden
10. The Spinners
11. King Crimson
12. The Monkees
13. Jan and Dean
14. Kool & The Gang
15. The Commodores
16. REO Speedwagon
17. The Kingston Trio
18. Peter, Paul & Mary
19. The Doobie Brothers
20. Blood, Sweat & Tears
21. Joy Division/New Order
22. Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12/16/2017 @ 10:41am

Most of them have NO prayer of EVER making it, thankfully... #getagip

Posted by KXB on Saturday, 12/16/2017 @ 12:02pm

My criteria is relevant, recognizable rock and roll that had a significant impact on the people in their era of prime performance. Their music grabbed the attention of the public and sustained their image over time. To me it's the performers that immediately come to mind when I think about the 60s, 70s, 80s and early 90s. It's those with a strong influence because of their unique sound

Posted by Jim D on Monday, 12/18/2017 @ 21:36pm

Who will be the first black artist to win the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Fan Poll? Will it ever happen?

01. Janet Jackson
02. Whitney Houston
03. Mariah Carey
04. Kool & The Gang
05. The Commodores

….??

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 11:05am

Who will be the first black artist to win the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Fan Poll? Will it ever happen?

01. Tina Turner
02. Janet Jackson
03. Whitney Houston
04. Mariah Carey
05. Kool & The Gang
06. The Commodores

….??

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 11:16am

Unfortunately, I don't think anyone will (except maybe Thin Lizzy if that counts). The ballot voters primarily consists of white cis male classic rock bigots who just want to see rock artists get inducted and then throw a temper tantrum if a non-rock artists gets in over one they think should've.

When it was announced that Nina Simone was inducted this year, someone said this "Fking joke again. Some black chick no one has heard of gets in while a band like Judas Priest, pioneers of Heavy Metal, get over looked. Nothing but politics"
You can find it right here
https://www.facebook.com/ClassicRockMagazine/posts/10155878425585883?comment_id=10155878832515883¬if_id=1513186151115652¬if_t=like

Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 13:04pm

Let's say the fan poll had ALWAYS existed. I think the only black artists, unfortunately, who would ever have stood a chance at getting 1st would have been Jimi Hendrix and Chuck Berry, and that's assuming they didn't have an equally titanic white artist on the ballot competing with them. Michael Jackson would have been possible as well due to his pure universal respect and appeal among fans of all genres, especially young boomers and Gen Xers.

As far as the remaining snubbed black artists (or any other poc) go, I can't see any of them overcoming the false but widespread narrative of rock and roll being a white male's artform. I can't even see any black artists making top 5 in a fanpoll in the forseeable future. MAYBE Janet Jackson's get-out-the-vote campaign can penetrate into the top 5 on a given year. MAYBE.

Now to be absolutely fair, I would say that the top 5-10 most egregious snubs (at least) do HAPPEN to be white, male artists. But seeing how poorly non-white artists have done in general on the ballot is quite discouraging going forward for their chances.

Posted by Paul K. on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 13:57pm

Chubby Checker

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 14:26pm

Maybe Marvin Gaye or The Supremes or Sly and the Family Stone (although that was a multi-racial outfit)? Might have depended on what year they went in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 14:52pm

Here's a quick 19-piece ballot consisting of artists with ONLY black people in it

1 - Janet Jackson
2 - Whitney Houston
3 - John Coltrane
4 - Mariah Carey
5 - The Spinners
6 - Wu-Tang Clan
7 - Living Colour
8 - Fela Kuti
9 - Screamin' Jay Hawkins
10 - A Tribe Called Quest
11 - Queen Latifah
12 - Chíc
13 - The Marvelettes
14 - Herbie Hancock
15 - De La Soul
16 - Tina Turner
17 - Esther Phillips
18 - The Clovers
19 - Lightnin' Hopkins

Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 15:26pm

I don't know about Chuck Berry, as he would've been up against Elvis. Hendrix Exp. I think would've topped (although they're technically multi-racial) while Michael Jackson I think would've definitely topped. Maybe Prince too.

For the future? That's a bit tough, as I feel that its really older fanbases that generate towards the fan poll, rather than Gen. Xers or Millenials, and I think that demographic would lean towards a more classic rock act than a hip hop artist and I'm not sure if I can really think of a primarily POC classic rock act that isn't in yet that would top the charts.

An interesting statistic is that every fan poll winner has been an act that was nominated for the first time, but had been eligible for years. If say Judas Priest are nominated next year and win the fan poll, they'd be the first returning nominee to do so. I'm trying to think of bands/artists that haven't ever been nominated, but have been eligible for years and have consistently been placed at the top of many "snubbed by R&RHOF" lists. They'd also have to be popular with the demographic I mentioned earlier, rather than the younger ones. The first name that comes to my mind are the Monkees, and maybe a Foreigner or Boston, but besides them I'm not sure who would fit this criteria.

Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 16:07pm

Scratch that, Kiss had actually been nominated in 2010 and Bon Jovi was nominated in 2011, but both of those were before the fan poll existed. So the statistic is actually that every fan poll winner has been an act that was nominated for the first time *since the creation of the poll*, but had been previously eligible for a long time prior.

Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 16:12pm

Some possibilities: Jethro Tull, Def Leppard, Toto, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Iron Maiden, Bad Company, Motörhead, The Guess Who, Ozzy Osbourne, Slayer, Peter Frampton, Duran Duran.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 12/19/2017 @ 17:19pm

the criteria is ok but I think hits, long lasting, and inspiration should be a part.

For Example: Cheap Trick have been in for a few years, just saw them in concert and they got booed
off the stage, they played 4 Beatles songs because they don't have enough of there own, they were horrible and yet Foriegner, Styx and others are not in, WAKE UP

Posted by David Wyrabkiewicz on Friday, 01/5/2018 @ 16:28pm

I saw Cheap Trick twice in the last two years, after their HOF induction, and they were terrific. They played songs mostly from their 70s/early 80s setlist with a few covers and new songs thrown in. It was a great show both times I saw them. Where did you see them out of curiosity?

Posted by Nick on Friday, 01/5/2018 @ 16:42pm

posted to sirius radio
Dear Classic Vinyl Hosts,

I am glad to see that two most deserving rock bands made it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year.
The Moody Blues and Dire Straits were long over due.
But I am Wondering Aloud how Jethro Tull an iconic band of this era has yet to be even
nominated?
A person would have to be Thick As A Brick not to recognize their contribution to this genre of music. Even if you are Not Ralitsa Vassileva you would know that JT is a deserving group. Even Cross Eyed Mary can see that they are more then worthy.
Jethro Tull is known from Far Alaska to Budapest, from the North Sea Oil fields to a Raft of Penguin in a frozen sea for their unique and creative music.
This is no Fly By Night rock group. They were Made In England many years ago and are still making great new music. JT and Ian Anderson (who is the creative genius behind the band) are not Living In The Past. This group is still performing and creating new music to this day. While others of their era are Too Old To Rock and Roll, IA and company are still out there on tour.
So lets take a Cold Dead Reckoning and Walk Into Light and recognize that JT should be inducted into the RRHF, before they are Old Ghosts. These Minstrels In The Gallery belong on center stage. With You There To Help Me we can make this a reality and bring down the Chequered Flag on their induction next year.
Don’t keep this email Under Wraps. Please share it with any and all who have a say or can influence those on the nomination committee.

Sincerely,

A Tull Fan For Life,
Ray Perez

Posted by Raymond Perez on Saturday, 01/6/2018 @ 14:21pm

Would it be a good idea to have one year where all the inductees are presented by the same person?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01/18/2018 @ 15:22pm

No.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 01/19/2018 @ 01:07am

Nominees For The 2019 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

01. Janet Jackson
02. Dionne Warwick
03. Chaka Khan
04. Kate Bush
05. Jan And Dean
07. The Monkees
08. The Spinners
09. The Zombies
10. The Meters
11. Jethro Tull
12. King Crimson
13. The Doobie Brothers
14. Foreigner
15. Judas Priest
16. Depeche Mode
17. Radiohead
18. Soundgarden
19. Nine Inch Nails
20. Rage Against The Machine

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/19/2018 @ 13:33pm

Of your choices, I'd go with Radiohead, Janet Jackson, Rage Against the Machine, Judas Priest and The Spinners
If 6 then King Crimson
If 7 then Depeche Mode
If 8 then Soundgarden
If 9 then Kate Bush

Posted by Nicky Joe on Friday, 01/19/2018 @ 15:02pm

Boston, Kansas, Styx, and REO Speedwagon are highly unlikely to ever be inducted. With that said, there are five more classic-rock/prog bands from the 60s-70-80s who are up next for induction. I could see them all being inducted in the same year, and they are:

Foreigner
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
The Doobie Brothers
Emerson, Lake & Palmer

And if voters continue to ignore the 60s-70s black groups and 90s alt groups, we will end up with a ballot that looks like this in 2024:

01. Ben E. King
02. Willie Nelson
03. Dionne Warwick
04. Mary Wells
05. The Spinners
06. The Marvelettes
07. The Meters
08. Rufus Featuring Chaka Khan
09. Love
10. War
11. The J.B.’s
12. Kool & The Gang
13. The Commodores
14. Janet Jackson
15. Radiohead
16. Rage Against The Machine
17. Nine Inch Nails
18. Soundgarden
19. Alice In Chains
20. Coldplay

This is assuming Judas Priest, Depeche Mode, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, The Monkees and Jan & Dean are all inducted before 2025.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/23/2018 @ 14:12pm

Roy

Boston probably not because there is not enough meat on the bone.
reminder this is not an all hail to the Brits hall
You need to start including some American artist.
Where is soft rock from the 70's and fussion from the 70s
You have no folk

I think you are way off base on Kansas, REO and Styx.

Just out of curiosity do you even know REO's signature song?

Come on Roy Foreigner were jonney come latelies to the power ballad - why should they get a pass and Styx and REO get blown off. There is no excuse.

Love over Tommy James and the Shondells

What no White women?

Almost all early options r&b

Too many wash rinse repeats make this another garbage dump -

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/23/2018 @ 14:51pm

Roy in addition you are going to blow off The Guess Who and BTO?

They need to back up on Rufus for now. there are too many kids that think they are disco and do not realize they are funk. They need to forget the garbage dumps and nominate garage bands and REO and Styx to get Rufus in. Go look up there connections start with American Breed. R&B isn't what is going to help them.

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/23/2018 @ 15:21pm

'Heard it from a friend, heard it from a friend, that REO has no shot at the Hall...'

I think that's their signature song. High Infidelity was a great album & they sure made alot of money off it. However, they have much less of a shot than Styx at ever being inducted, and Styx seems to have just about no shot (which is a shame).

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 07:01am

Paul

nope

Which is the point I am trying to make. If you are not familiar with their work can you judge them.

Put REO and Styx on a nomination ballot with some of those that you think will get in and I think people on here will be surprised.

If you want a clue about their signature song

They play it at Hawks games

Another one people are clueless about on here.

What is Jerry Reed's signature Song?

It's not the one you guys list

By the way Not In the Hall are just as clueless.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 10:39am

Paul

Not their signature song but one of the reasons my Sabbath loving brother liked them.

If he knew REO - then there something seriously wrong that you guys don't. Personally I think people are brainwashed by propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03HN2wAQH5w

you might also check out a live version of Flying Turkey Trot.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 10:49am

I don't have a problem with REO, Styx, Kansas, Boston being in the hall, I just think the hall does. Jann Wenner likes Foreigner.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 11:01am

Come on Roy, Jann Wenners taste skunks ups the place.

How well do his favorites do? not well at all

REO Styx and Kansas will get votes over Foreigner.

This is all I keep asking for on these artist - give them a chance to face the judgement of their peers.

Gary Eats Frets for breakfast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8CnXn8LY0

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 11:17am

Just because they play it at Hawks' games doesn't make it their signature song. Depending on who you ask, their signature song could be "Keep On Loving You," "Take It On The Run," "Time For Me To Fly," etc. Just saying.

Between REO and Styx, I'd be interested to see who runs away with the fan vote. Not a big fan of either, but both would be populist picks. Too bad the Vocal Group Hall Of Fame went defunct: REO would be a perfect inductee there.

Jann's taste may skunk up the Hall, but they never go away. J. Geils Band will get in eventually, just like the Paul Butterfield Blues Band did.

Re: Alan Freed... not saying the ends justify the means, but once again, the Rock Hall is much more of a rogues' gallery than a museum of class. Whatever the controversy, he is largely responsible for rock and roll's continuance throughout the late '50s. By not being afraid to promote Black records on mainstream radio programming (again, even if paid to do so), he brought prominence to the very lifeblood of rock and roll.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 14:29pm

"Take It on the Run" is definitely their signature song, IMO.

Had these guys in the dorm room next to me that played that album nonstop, when it came out.

It was a great album, so I didn't mind it that much.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 14:47pm

And personally, I'd say it's "Keep On Loving You," and so would the entire radio-listening audience that I served during my time in commercial radio.

Posted by Philipin on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 14:51pm

Philip

At no point did I say that because the Hawks playing this song make it REO's signature song. that was just a hint.

Alan Freed did not carry much weight with people who like r&r. Elvis on the other hand did. You might understand this if you actually took the time to see what that age groups opinion is. I tried to get enlighten you with that 60s blog but you just blew it off. You like so many other of the kids need to vet your sources. The internet at one time was a good place to get facts but now there is just too much propaganda garbage that needs to be gone through.

You mean like Chic and I question some of the high number rejects actually getting the votes. Jann has been caught playing games.

This brings to mind your bs on dusties radio programs. All you needed to do was google it. Were you just too lazy to check before you opened your mouth or you couldn't deal with the reality that you were wrong?

Philip Paul

You are both wrong,

An artist's signature song is not a matter of opinion. It is a fact. Chicago's signature song is 25 or 6n to 4. There is a very easy way to check this. Think about it. Think about any artist that you have seen in concert multiple times. Bet you could name their signature song right off the bat. Now what clues does going to a concert tell which song is their signature song? One clue will narrow it down to a group of possible songs but an additional clue at all concerts is a dead give away.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 15:54pm

One more thing Paul and Philip

Did either of you check out any of the songs I mentioned. Remember REO has been around since the early 70s - just like Styx. You will notice these songs are very different from their 80s songs.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 16:00pm

It's a fact according to whom? Seriously, you do know that signature song is the song that the vast majority of people immediately think of when that artist is mentioned right? For Zeppelin, that's "Stairway To Heaven;" for Percy Sledge, it's "When A Man Loves A Woman." With REO Speedwagon, there's not much of a consensus. I would argue that more people think of "Keep On Loving You" or "Take It On The Run." The only time people mention the song you're referring to is when they actually wish to argue the rock cred of REO Speedwagon. That's about it. And you'll notice that it's their 80's stuff that they are best remembered for! (None of this, btw, to say there isn't room for them in the Hall, simply that it isn't the most immediately remembered song)

And yes, Alan Freed had a lot to do with people knowing and remembering who the Moonglows, the Flamingos, the Harptones, the Five Satins, the Five Keys, etc. are, rather than simply letting the whitewashed versions by the Crew Cuts, Pat Boone, and the Diamonds write history in their entirety. No disrespect to Elvis. The King definitely had more to do with it than Alan Freed, but you cannot honestly say that Alan Freed was irrelevant either. It's not an either/or situation where you have to choose between the two; it's not a zero-sum game. They both did a lot, they both deserved enshrinement, and they both got it in the Hall's opening year.

Jann ain't battin' a thou, sure, but he still has a lot of sway with the NomComm. And the thing with Chic I would wager had more to do with Nile being one of the founding members of the Foundation than the actual music of Chic itself.

As for your continuing insistence that Herb Kent was the most important person in the history of radio EVER, even more than Marconi or Sarnoff, I literally just googled "Dusties radio program" in the exact wording that you gave me, and it automatically changed it to "Dusty's radio program," before giving links to some Creepypasta productions and so forth. There was ONE link to a radio program about Oldies. It was also called "Dusty's" program, and it promoted itself as an "Oldies" program. Seriously, if you Google "Dusties" without mentioning "Herb Kent", your top results have absolutely NOTHING to do with music! If the invention of the term "Dusties" was really THAT important to rock and roll music, you wouldn't have to mention Kent in your Google search to get more than one result out of two searches pertaining to the music of that era. Google "Oldies" by itself, and you get results referring the musical format featuring rock and roll of the 50's, 60's, and early 70's. Seriously, Zuzu. Give it up.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 02:47am

This is what I get - look at more than the top few
Seriously Phillip stop your bs. He worked with the Chess Bros. You really think that people like Dionne Warwick and Aretha Franklin are going to be interviewed to say something about the death of a nobody?

Signature song is not what a bunch of clueless kiddies think it is. How do you tell what a band's signature song is? you look ay a full concert - make sure it is long enough to not be condensed. It will be the last song at an official concert but before encores.

This is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVFgEBq0EKM

You are fooling yourself if you think Alan Freed is so important. Vet your sources. You will find a lot of these people are connected to Jann and the hall and is pushing their bs version of the history of r&r. Check out that 60s blog and you might be surprised what people who kids at the time thought.
Was alan freed ever on a clear channel station.

Unless he was and was on at the right time - he didn't reach many people. Those stations are why so many djs at stations like WLS and WCFL went on to become known nationally. I read that in the late 70s Mancow had the largest radio share and he was not syndicated but on A night shift at a Chicago clearchannel station.

Philip you need to stop running your mouth off about things you have not checked out. I am loosing my patience with constantly needing to educate you. It is about time you educated yourself

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 03:57am

Philip, I'm not much on ballads :-) & 'Take It on the Run' qualifies as a faster song from that album, so that's my signature song!

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 06:57am

Zusu, what is the name of this 'signature song' of REO's?!?! Is it called 'Signature Song'?

Asking for a friend...

Also, glad you are educating that 'Phillip' guy...The nerve of him, looking up stuff you said on the internet...

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 07:02am

Paul

He only gives things a cursory look and sees only what he wants. He obviously did not look further down the list. Like several of the kids on here he does not vet his sources. many I find to have connections to Jann snd the hall.

That 60s blog says that he is wrong about people being influenced by alan freed. I don't agree with their choices but it is what it is.

It's called Ridin' the Storm Out.

I hope you listened to 157 Riverside Avenue since most people don't realize that REO and Journey did some Jazz Rock fusion early on.

Golden Country
Roll With the Changes
Flying Turkey Trot

are addl non ballads

Before you give Philip pats on the back look into 2 things

Herb Kent - He passed away a little over a year ago so there are several write ups, The Chicago Defender has the most info on what he accomplished

you may also enjoy reading exerts from his book

https://books.google.com/books?id=f92pJ3JhaJYC&pg=PA41&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false

Clear channel radio stations and why they were important to the spread of r&r. Unless alan freed freed worked at one of these stations he did not have a big audience. Something Philip refuses to look into.

a couple things to note Marty Grebb said that the Exceptions listened to WVON - a Chess bros radio station for African Americans and one of the stations Herb Kent worked at

Bob Seeger said he listened to a clear channel station out of Nashville

Neither mentions alan freed

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 08:38am

Thank you for the name of that song! Will check it out.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 09:35am

Your welcome Paul

Herb Kent was inducted into the r&b hall of fame - I can't find their site but according to wiki he was inducted as a radio legend. I haven't confirmed it yet but I have come across mentions of him being a guest host on Soul Train

According to his book he was the first African American to be inducted int the radio hall of fame.

I tried pointing out to Philip and he just blew it off that big name artist such as Aretha Franklin and Dionne Warwick do not speak up at the passing of a nobody.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 09:57am

Zuzu, you cannot teach that which you do not know. That's what I have to say about you "educating" me.

And no, "signature song" is not determined by what song is the last one played in the set list before the encore. Led Zeppelin often refused to play "Stairway To Heaven", but that is their signature song. Radiohead grew to hate "Creep" with a fierce passion that they refused to play that in their set list for the longest time, but many consider that their "signature song." The fact is that no one party determines what the signature song is. It's a merging of a wide variety of factors, stewed in the cauldron of time/history. So, no, "Riding The Storm Out" is not REO's signature song no matter how much you insist it is, nor how often they play it last before the encores. "Riding The Storm Out" simply does not sound like a "typical REO Speedwagon" song... that is, when you hear it, you may not be able to identify the exact song but it's definitely in the style of that artist. "Riding The Storm Out" honestly sounds more like a Neil Young song, which is actually pretty high praise for it. But the sound that REO Speedwagon has come to be most closely identified with is the sound that you get on songs like "Take It On The Run," "Roll With The Changes," "Time For Me To Fly." Those songs are the ones that as soon as you hear them, you know it's REO Speedwagon, even if you're not immediately sure which one it is right away.

Alan Freed was a NATIONALLY SYNDICATED RADIO HOST in the early days of rock and roll. That is how you can reach large audience without being on a mega- or super-station. Because there are more than one radio station to a market. Nowadays, you may not have too many stations per format per market, but back when Freed was alive, there were nowhere near as many radio formats. There wasn't "easy listening" or "alternative." He reached a ton of people in the early days, regardless of whether or not his syndicated programming was carried by any mega stations, and encouraged White kids to buy Black records. If you honestly don't see the importance of that, then I really don't know what to tell you. And if Alan Freed wasn't picked up by any of the Chicago stations, that doesn't mean he wasn't important. As a P.S. re: "clearchannel," you may wish to choose a different word or phrase, as the term now refers to the corporation that's now known as iHeartMedia, and is basically everything that is wrong with the radio industry today. I believe what you are referring to are called "mega stations" or "super stations" (which refers to more than just WGN). Also, Freed did more than spin the platters. He also helped organize the first mass rock and roll concert events.

I only recall you linking to one blog for my edification, and it was so heavily skewed by populist opinion (and the populist opinion of Chicagoans only for that matter) that it's utterly useless.

Herb Kent was indeed inducted into the R&B Hall Of Fame, btw. The official website is still under construction, but he is listed as an inductee. And so is Alan Freed, just so you know.

And seriously, googling JUST the term "Dusties".... you don't even get a music related result until page 4 on Google. I actually looked. Page 4. The term does not primarily (or even secondarily or in a tertiary manner) refer to the music of the '60s. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

You know that you would make a terrible lawyer, right? "Counsel, present your evidence." "Your honor, I've done my research, I have the evidence, and now you need to do the research so you can agree with me." "Counselor, that's not at all how this works. The burden is on you to present the evidence." "But *I've* done my research, and if you don't agree with me, you clearly haven't done yours!" If you want me to look up an interview with Aretha Franklin about Herb Kent, then flippin' specify your search parameters, instead of this vague business! There's a metric ton of stuff out there, and I don't, and presumably you don't either, have hours upon hours every day to wade and comb through it. I don't have the time to read every Chicago media outlet's obituary on the man. I still work for a living. And Aretha's words about him were polite, not intimate. She primarily remembers him because he was her first interviewer. If it wasn't him, would she still remember him so fondly? No one can really say. Dionne Warwick? Eh, I think of her more as an MOR pop-singer, perhaps wrongly, but largely because her Bachrach-David stuff sounds like it could have been recorded by Andy Williams just as easily. And honestly, the Chicago Defender isn't exactly the most unbiased source to be using either.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 19:21pm

Can we trade Zuzu for richie? kthx.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:30pm

Can we trade Zuzu for richie? kthx.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:31pm

Can we trade Zuzu for richie? kthx.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:31pm

Can we trade Zuzu for richie? kthx.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:31pm

Why the he'll did it post 4 times? Oh well. Point made 4x.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:33pm

I co-sign to that dmg. Although your post got submitted 4 times accidentally, sometimes certain posters do that on purpose to either get their point across, have bad internet connection on their end (and unsure if their post was submitted), or just to annoy the holy hell out of us regulars.

Posted by Nick on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 21:51pm

THE 25 ACTS WHO HAVE TO BE INDUCTED NEXT!

01. Mary Wells
02. Ben E. King
03. Carole King
04. Tina Turner
05. Herb Alpert
06. Chubby Checker
07. Patti Labelle
08. Dionne Warwick
09. Willie Nelson
10. Judy Collins
11. The Spinners
12. The Marvelettes
13. The Kingston Trio
14. Peter, Paul and Mary
15. The Zombies
16. The Monkees
17. Jan and Dean
18. Jethro Tull
19. King Crimson
20. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
21. The Commodores
22. Kool & The Gang
23. Blood, Sweat & Tears
24. The Doobie Brothers
25. Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 13:50pm

While I don't align well with Zuzu's opinions or view of music; I'm personally fine with calling "Ridin' the Storm Out" the signature song for REO as he perfers to define the term; though I personally believe that the proper description is that song is the band's personal identity. That songs is at the core of who REO are as a hard touring midwestern Rock band. Which is why they still closed out their shows with it after they gained their big 80s hits.

When Kevin Cronin's obituary is someday written, "Keep On Lovin' You" will be the song every write up will mention. It's their biggest hit by far.

Fans of REO that knew them in the 70s before they turned to more pop rock with Hi Infidenlity will likely always associate them with Ridin' the Storm out; but the fans they drew in the early 80s likely think of that as an obscure deep cut.

What the public thinks of as a bands signature song isn't always going to line up with what the artists think; especially since so many of them wind up hating their biggest hits.

I think most people would call out "My Way" as Frank Sinatra's signature song; but he actually never liked the song, he thought it was too self indulgent. George Jones never really liked "He Stopped Lovin' Her Today", he thought it was too morbid. Etc.

Posted by Shrek on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 14:02pm

dmg,

In all fairness to Zuzu, there actually is a argument for Herb Kent to be inducted into the Hall. It's a little tenuous, but it's there. The problem is, she really doesn't argue that particular point, choosing instead to argue more trivial, locally specific points rather than bigger picture. But it's tenuous... but it's there.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 23:38pm

Roy,

I really like your most recent list. Congratulations. Although, I would also include: Carly Simon, Sade and Duran Duran, of course. But it is probably the best list that you have ever put together.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/27/2018 @ 13:16pm

My predictions on who I think will be inducted into the Rock Hall (assuming five or six acts per class) in the next 5 years (2019-2023)

Beck
Boston
Carole King
The Commodores
The Cure
Def Leppard
Depeche Mode
The Doobie Brothers
Duran Duran
Eminem
Eurythmics
Foo Fighters
The J. Geils Band
Janet Jackson
Jay-Z
Jethro Tull
Judas Priest
LL Cool J
Mary J. Blige
Nine Inch Nails
The Notorious B.I.G
Pat Benatar
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
The Smiths
Sting
Todd Rundgren
Warren Zevon
Whitney Houston
Willie Nelson
The Zombies

Posted by richie on Sunday, 02/11/2018 @ 13:48pm

ok...i am really disturbed as to why i still don't see Pat Benatar and Peter Frampton in the RnR Hall of Fame. Do you mean to tell me that these 2 in particular did NOT make a difference in the music industry with all their accomplishments?

You should rename this award RnR Hall of SHAME!!!

Posted by bigag01 on Wednesday, 04/11/2018 @ 13:46pm

NOMINEES FOR THE 2019 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

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PICK 1 SOLO MALE, 1 SOLO FEMALE, 4 BANDS/GROUPS

OR

PICK 2 SOLO MALE, 2 SOLO FEMALE, 2 BANDS/GROUPS

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04/16/2018 @ 12:56pm

ONE big (live) album that wasn't that great does not a HoF make... #notthehallofmerelyok

Posted by KXB on Monday, 04/16/2018 @ 13:14pm

Who will be the first all-white female group to be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?

The Angels
The Shangri-Las
The McGuire Sisters
The Andrews Sisters
The Luv'd Ones
The Runaways
The Go-Go's
The Bangles
Bananarama
Sleater-Kinney
Dixie Chicks

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04/21/2018 @ 08:55am

Poison!

Posted by EDS on Saturday, 04/21/2018 @ 11:54am

Hey, FRL Regulars!

Of all the names who are either newly eligible right now or will be in the next ten years, who has the best chances of being a “first year” inductee in your opinion? I’m only gonna name up to two per year. I may not be fond of most of them musically, but I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys will be lucky enough to get in right off the bat.

2019: Dave Matthews Band and/or Snoop Dogg
2020: Notorious B.I.G.
2021: Foo Fighters and Jay-Z
2022: Eminem
2023: No first year inductee
2024: Coldplay
2025: The White Stripes
2026: Linkin Park
2027: No first year inductee
2028: Maroon 5 and/or Rihanna
2029: Kanye West and Amy Winehouse

Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 04/21/2018 @ 12:01pm

2019: Beck
2020: Weezer
2021: Foo Fighters
2022: Eminem
2023: None (nobody from this year)
2024: Lauryn Hill
2025: John Mayer
2026: Linkin Park
2027: Norah Jones
2028: Justin Timberlake
2029: Beyoncé
2030: The Killers

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 04/21/2018 @ 13:39pm

I want to nominate Canadian Male Solo Singer Marty Hill. He recorded over about 100 songs, made the top of Billboard in the US, on labels BMI/Columbia/Atco from 1958 through the 1960's. Is in the Canadian Museum of Music.
He's 78 now, I would love to have him acknowledged and celebrated for his work before he passes away!

Posted by Gail H. on Monday, 05/7/2018 @ 23:46pm

After perusing the forum a bit I see no mention of Styx. Disheartening. I think that the band does not get the recognition. Other bands I would include in this topic are Supertramp, Boston, Huey Louis & the News, the Starship edition of Jefferson, The Outlaws, 38 Special, Bob Seger (if I included any that are in, I apologize)... the Cranberries, to name a few. just my two cents....

Posted by Sven on Thursday, 05/10/2018 @ 21:08pm

@ Sven:

Bob Seger is in, STYX is pretty doubtful, and I do see Boston getting an induction in the next few years. We're just not expecting all of the classic rock radio staple acts from the 60's, 70's, and 80's to be added.

Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 05/10/2018 @ 21:23pm

Johnny Rivers should have been one of the very first inductees. He was on the charts from 1964-1977, which is astounding considering he had the Beatles as competition! He recorded the theme show for two popular TV shows and did the theme song for George McGovern’s presidential campaign. He is not the only artist to cover the recordings of others. Rod Stewart, Elvis and the Beatles did as well. He is a top notch guitar player who has garnered praise from numerous other noted musicians and inductees. What is the problem? How can you overlook this icon?

Posted by Rebecca Hammer on Sunday, 05/27/2018 @ 11:05am

NON-PERFORMERS FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Willie Mitchell
Bernie Lowe
Jerry Ragovoy
John Simon
Arif Mardin
Phil Ramone
Richard Barrett
Robert Blackwell
Rudy Toombs
Bob Crewe
Bernie Taupin
David Porter
David Foster
Jim Steinman
Carole Bayer Sager
Diane Warren
Wolfman Jack
Casey Kasem
Don Cornelius
Tommy Mottola

Kal Mann and Dave Appell
Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong
Burt Bacharach and Hal David
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux and Felice Bryant
Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05/27/2018 @ 14:25pm

Hi folks...I understand all the details that go into deciding who gets in and who doesn't...when i look at some of the future nominies,was wondering why Jim Croce's name was not on it. I know we lost him 45 years ago,but his music still goes on today and is very influential to many people. Thank you for all that you do in todays music, and looking forward for many years of this fine art!!!! Jimmy Lee : )

Posted by Jimmy on Tuesday, 06/19/2018 @ 10:08am

Dear God, when will BOSTON and the SCORPIONS get in the hall of fame? Both bands have had very successful records, toured extensively, and their songs are still LOVED AND PLAYED on the radio everyday! What does it take to get these 2 bands NOMINATED???? Thank You

Posted by Laura pb on Tuesday, 06/19/2018 @ 16:12pm

@ Laura

I do see Boston getting an induction a few years from now, we just need Def Leppard, the Doobie Brothers, Motley Crue, and Foreigner - at the very least - to get in first. Scorpions will come a bit later.

Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 06/19/2018 @ 17:17pm

Uh, no we DON'T!
#enoughofmediocreclassicschlock

Posted by EDS on Tuesday, 06/19/2018 @ 22:37pm

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 08/26/2018 @ 13:18pm

Roy,

I suppose that depends upon who you ask. I happen to be more partial to The Bangles than most of those other groups. ;-)

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/26/2018 @ 13:23pm

Roy

What about the 2nd generation Carter Family. I think it would be a good way to get June Carter inducted. Of course the hall has been very remiss in inducting one of the all time biggest influences, the Carter Family 1st generation,

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 08/26/2018 @ 14:01pm

I think 2 Induction Ceremonies every April and October would alleviate some of this deserving artists logjam. There is a decade backlog of deserving groups for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Bad Company, Def Leppard, Depeche Mode,Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, LL Cool J, Scorpions, The Cure, etc. are just a handful of groups who should already have been inducted. The 2 Induction Ceremony system would shine a light the entire year on the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Who will be nominated? Could my FAV group be nominated twice? At the April Induction Ceremony, the RRHOF COMMITTEE could unveil the next slate of 15-20 nominees. Another slate of nominees could help an already inducted artist receive a 2nd induction. Phil Collins, Robert Plant, Stevie Nicks, Steve Winwood, Sting etc. come to mind for their solo work.
I would like to see the RRHOF assess a value point system for a nomination. EX: 1Nomination=10 votes. This would help J. Geils Band or LL Cool J towards induction. In this system, both would have 40 maybe 50 votes already since they have been nominated 4 or 5 times. Another nomination would really put these highly nominated groups closer to induction. It's something to discuss or ponder. KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 08/27/2018 @ 01:02am

I don't think The Carter Family counts, since they were not always all female.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08/27/2018 @ 12:12pm

Roy

I know it gets confusing because the term is also used to describe the children of AP and Sara and the children of Maybelle who performed with the original Carter family. This is not what I am talking about.

In 1943, when the original Carter Family consisting of AP, Sara and Maybelle stopped performing, Maybelle went and formed a new group originally called Maybelle Carter and the Carter Sisters. Later that year they changed their name to Mother Maybelle and the Carter Sisters, when they got a radio sponsorship. In 1949, they changed their name again for their first recording.

It was not until AP died in 1960 that they changed their name to the Carter Family. They are referred to as the the Second Generation Carter Family to distinguish the two separate and different groups. So you see what I am talking about is the group that always consisted of 4 women, Maybelle Carter and her daughters, Anita, Helen and June. So hopefully you can see they were an all female group from the start and therefore qualify.

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 08/27/2018 @ 13:03pm

Should read changed name to Carter Sisters for 1st recording in 1949.

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 08/27/2018 @ 13:06pm

A glaring snub/omission is Glen Campbell. Before any so called music aficionado wrinkles up his nose at this “country” boy, review his body of work. His years as a studio musician and member of the Wrecking Crew put him on nearly every 1960s hit of every genre. His guitar skills rival any of the often mentioned masters. And all this was before he became a sole performer superstar with an impressive body of work.

Shame on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!!

Posted by Hello Gorgeous on Thursday, 09/6/2018 @ 18:23pm

DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S OLD ROCK HALL QUALIFICATIONS SCALE BY SAMPSON

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

THE CURRENT SCALE BY SAMPSON

10 - The Immortals
9 - Deserves To Be A First Ballot Lock
8 - Should Be Guaranteed An Induction
7 - An Eventual Induction Is Likely
6 - Should Be Nominated At Some Point
5 - Worthy Of At Least A Debate For A Nomination
4 - Not Insignificant, But Shouldn't Be Nominated
3 - No Business Being Debated By Committee
2 - No Business Being Even Mentioned
1 - No Business Visiting The Hall Of Fame Without a Ticket

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 07:15am

Liam, you’re a little bit of a dork. From where do you actually assume to know anything about quality and influence. Can you even define influence? How could you possibly know how much influence a band has had other than on you or your little friends? And innovation, a totally subjective term. What is innovation to you might be backwards to others. Dork

Posted by Mail on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 02:45am

Hall of FAME
What makes a band famous has nothing to with with what we as individuals feel. It’s got to do with much bigger numbers.

It is not the Hall of Influence, or Hall of Innovation or Hall of The Bands You Like

Fame
Famous
Look these words up.

Posted by Mail on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 02:54am

Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Artists Ranked From Best To Worst by Bill Wyman

http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-artists-ranked-from-best-to-worst.html

209. Kiss
210. Rush
211. Chicago
212. Journey
213. Queen
214. Bon Jovi

Where would you put Toto, Boston, Kansas, Styx, and Foreigner on this list?

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 08:23am

STILL NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. War
02. Chic
03. Styx
04. Toto
05. INXS
06. Boston
07. Kansas
08. Foreigner
09. Jethro Tull
10. Jan & Dean
11. The Meters
12. The Spinners
13. The Monkees
14. King Crimson
15. Kool & The Gang
16. REO Speedwagon
17. The Commodores
18. The Kingston Trio
19. Peter, Paul & Mary
20. Ashford & Simpson
21. The Neville Brothers
22. The Doobie Brothers
23. Blood, Sweat & Tears
24. Joy Division/New Order
25. Emerson, Lake & Palmer

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 09:35am

Roy,

It is really nothing new. Rock critics generally lack the necessary intelligence required, in order to fully appreciate “progressive rock.” Unfortunately, many of them are in favor of ephemeral artists whose impact they have deemed to be important, whereas artists with longevity tend to be overlooked. However, the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) have been inducted, which really must annoy them terribly! Good! After this year’s disastrous debacle, then perhaps they will retreat to the corners of their dim existence and allow the far more worthy artists to be nominated and inducted. :-P

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 09:43am

STILL NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. T. Rex
02. Badfinger
03. Thin Lizzy
04. The Turtles
05. The Troggs
06. The Chiffons
07. Roxy Music
08. Steppenwolf
09. Procol Harum
10. Motorhead
11. Judas Priest
12. Iron Maiden
13. New York Dolls
14. Blue Oyster Cult
15. Bad Company
16. Bad Religion
17. Depeche Mode
18. Duran Duran
19. The Marvelettes
20. Three Dog Night
21. Jefferson Starship
22. Herman’s Hermits
23. Grand Funk Railroad
24. The Spencer Davis Group
25. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 23:26pm

THE TOP 25 DUOS WITH AND OR & IN THEIR NAMES NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Jan & Dean
02. Sonny & Cher
03. Ashford & Simpson
04. Loggins & Messina
05. Seals & Crofts
06. Peter & Gordon
07. Chad & Jeremy
08. Peaches & Herb
09. Cheech & Chong
10. Zager & Evans
11. Mickey & Sylvia
12. Godley & Creme
13. Brooks & Dunn
14. Flo & Eddie
15. Ian & Sylvia
16. Bob & Earl
17. Delaney & Bonnie
18. Buckner & Garcia
19. James & Bobby Purify
20. Buchanan & Goodman
21. McFadden & Whitehead
22. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
23. England Dan & John Ford Coley
24. Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee
25. Tegan & Sara

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 01:51am

THE TOP 25 DUOS WITH AND OR & IN THEIR NAMES NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Jan & Dean
02. Sonny & Cher
03. Ashford & Simpson
04. Loggins & Messina
05. Seals & Crofts
06. Peter & Gordon
07. Chad & Jeremy
08. Peaches & Herb
09. Cheech & Chong
10. Zager & Evans
11. Mickey & Sylvia
12. Godley & Creme
13. Brooks & Dunn
14. Flo & Eddie
15. Ian & Sylvia
16. Bob & Earl
17. Eric B. & Rakim
18. Delaney & Bonnie
19. Buckner & Garcia
20. James & Bobby Purify
21. Buchanan & Goodman
22. McFadden & Whitehead
23. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
24. England Dan & John Ford Coley
25. Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:02am

THE TOP 25 DUOS WITH AND OR & IN THEIR NAMES NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Jan & Dean
02. Sonny & Cher
03. Ashford & Simpson
04. Loggins & Messina
05. Seals & Crofts
06. Peter & Gordon
07. Chad & Jeremy
08. Peaches & Herb
09. Cheech & Chong
10. Zager & Evans
11. Mickey & Sylvia
12. Godley & Creme
13. Brooks & Dunn
14. Flo & Eddie
15. Ian & Sylvia
16. Bob & Earl
17. Captain & Tennille
18. Delaney & Bonnie
19. Buckner & Garcia
20. James & Bobby Purify
21. Buchanan & Goodman
22. McFadden & Whitehead
23. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
24. England Dan & John Ford Coley
25. Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:19am

IF THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME NOMINEES BALLOT LOOKED LIKE THIS

01. The Dominoes
02. The Chantels
03. The Chiffons
04. The Marvelettes
05. The Spinners
06. The J.B.'s
07. Chic
08. Rufus
09. War
10. The Meters
11. The Neville Brothers
12. The Commodores
13. Kool & The Gang
14. The Whispers
15. Blood, Sweat & Tears
16. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
17. The Doobie Brothers
18. King Crimson
19. Jethro Tull
20. Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 10:57am

FRL tweeted...

A few more thoughts about this latest Rock Hall post, on the eve of the 2019 inducteese being announced...

When the Rock Hall finds itself in the position of nominating the same artists every single year (who are clearly deserving), that should be a clear sign that something is wrong with the way inductees are selected.

There is literally almost no one who doesn't think Kraftwerk shouldn't be in the Rock Hall for the influence they have had, and yet, here we are in year #5 of them not getting in.

And because the Rock Hall puts an artificial cap on the number of nominees and inductees, those ballot spots become super precious and edge off names that should be up for election this year.

This year's ballot should have been filled with newly eligible artists like Outkast, Beck, Dave Matthews Band, Liz Phair, The Roots, Jeff Buckley, Snoop Dogg, Sheryl Crow, Fugees, Built to Spill, etc, etc

Not that all of them are Hall of Famers, but it would be so much more fun and interesting to discuss those artists and their merits instead of rehashing 20 year old arguments about the same artists over and over.

The Baseball Hall of Fame gets this part exactly right. There's a shortlist of newly eligible players that make the ballot in the first year and the voters can actually make the HoF determination.

Now, the Rock Hall has dug itself a deep, deep hole by not keeping up. As mentioned in the post, nearly every subgenre of rock feels underrepresented in Cleveland already. That's a huge problem, and they have to stop digging.

There are obvious Hall of Famers that came out of the 80s and 90s that are getting screwed out of the chance to get inducted because the Rock Hall can't figure out how to run their induction process. It's bullshit, and they're going to keep blowing it until no one cares anymore.

MY RESPONSE

All those 80s-90s acts you listed can wait just as long as all the remaining 50s-60s-70s acts have been waiting. They need to be inducted first. Obviously there will be one or two 80s-90s acts inducted along with them each year.

TOP PRIORITY

Willie Nelson * Dionne Warwick * Mary Wells * The Marvelettes * The Spinners * Chubby Checker * Harry Belafonte * Jan & Dean * The Monkees * The Kingston Trio * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer * Peter, Paul & Mary * Judy Collins * Phil Ochs * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Kool & The Gang * The Commodores * The Doobie Brothers * Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:14pm

http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

THE 2020 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTING STATISTICS
MOST VOTES AND MOST YES VOTES

Whitney Houston
Devo
Jethro Tull
Blink-182
Mariah Carey
Depeche Mode
Alice In Chains
Nine Inch Nails

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 09:38am

I'd be fine with that 2020 class, Roy!

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 09:44am

UPDATED!

I've replaced Stevie Nicks and Janet Jackson with Ella Fitzgerald and Emmylou Harris.

I've replaced The Zombies with The Spencer Davis Group

Fantasy 2020 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT

Pick 2 solo males, 2 solo females, 2 bands/groups OR 1 male, 1 female, 4 bands/groups

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Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 12:28pm

MY UPDATED TOP 10 BANDS FOR INDUCTION

01. The Monkees
02. The Kingston Trio
03. Jethro Tull
04. King Crimson
05. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
06. Blood, Sweat & Tears
07. Kool & The Gang
08. The Commodores
09. The Doobie Brothers
10. Foreigner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 13:29pm

Fantasy votes:

Glen Campbell
Dionne Warwick
The Spinners
The Marvelettes
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 15:05pm

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Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12/15/2018 @ 09:00am

With two of my mainstays- the Zombies and Janet- in, I guess my fantasy votes would be:

The Spinners
Judas Priest
Mariah Carey
Carole King
Willie Nelson
Harry Belafonte

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Saturday, 12/15/2018 @ 10:21am

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Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/17/2018 @ 12:56pm

HOW WOULD YOU RANK THE MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THEIR CHANCES OF BEING INDUCTED ON A SCALE OF 0 TO 10?

01. Willie Nelson (10)
02. Dionne Warwick (10)
03. Harry Belafonte (10)
04. Waylon Jennings (10)
05. Lionel Richie (9)
06. Kenny Loggins (8)
07. The Pointer Sisters (7)
08. Sheila E. (7)
09. Cyndi Lauper (6)
10. Huey Lewis and the News (5)
11. Bob Geldof (3)
12. Bette Midler (2)
13. Kenny Rogers (2)
14. Al Jarreau (2)
15. James Ingram (1)
16. Jeffrey Osbourne (0)
17. Kim Carnes (0)
18. Randy Jackson (0)
19. LaToya Jackson (0)
20. Dan Akroyd (0)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/20/2018 @ 02:54am

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Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/26/2018 @ 14:38pm

Great list actually...they should all be in. Add Joe Cocker, the B-52's, the Go-Go's and Jethro Tull and this could actually fix a lot of things.

Posted by Jay on Wednesday, 12/26/2018 @ 17:29pm

UPDATE!

TOTAL: 45 Members of USA For Africa

Members of USA for Africa Who Are In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

01. 1986: Ray Charles
02. 1987: Smokey Robinson
03. 1988: Diana Ross
04. 1988: Bob Dylan
05. 1989: Stevie Wonder
06. 1990: Paul Simon (2001)
07. 1991: Tina Turner
08. 1997: Michael Jackson (2001)
09. 1997: Tito Jackson
10. 1997: Marlon Jackson
11. 1997: Jackie Jackson
12. 1998: Lindsey Buckingham
13. 1999: Bruce Springsteen
14. 1999: Billy Joel
15. 2013: Quincy Jones
16. 2014: Daryl Hall
17. 2014: John Oates
18. 2017: Steve Perry

Members of USA for Africa Who Are Not In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

01. Harry Belafonte
02. Dionne Warwick
03. Willie Nelson
04. Waylon Jennings
05. Kenny Rogers
06. Lionel Richie
07. Bette Midler
08. Kenny Loggins
09. Huey Lewis
10. Sean Hopper (The News)
11. Chris Hayes (The News)
12. Johnny Colla (The News)
13. Mario Cipollina (The News)
14. Bill Gibson (The News)
15. Cyndi Lauper
16. Kim Carnes
17. Al Jarreau
18. James Ingram
19. Jeffrey Osbourne
20. Ruth Pointer (The Pointer Sisters)
21. Anita Pointer (The Pointer Sisters)
22. June Pointer (The Pointer Sisters)
23. LaToya Jackson
24. Randy Jackson
25. Sheila E.
26. Bob Geldof
27. Dan Aykroyd

THEIR CHANCES OF BEING INDUCTED (Scale of 0 to 10)

01. Willie Nelson (10)
02. Dionne Warwick (10)
03. Harry Belafonte (10)
04. Waylon Jennings (10)
05. Lionel Richie (9)
06. Kenny Loggins (8)
07. The Pointer Sisters (8)
08. Sheila E. (8)
09. Cyndi Lauper (7)
10. Huey Lewis and the News (7)
11. Bob Geldof (5)
12. Bette Midler (2)
13. Kenny Rogers (2)
14. Al Jarreau (2)
15. James Ingram (1)
16. Jeffrey Osbourne (1)
17. Kim Carnes (1)
18. Randy Jackson (0)
19. LaToya Jackson (0)
20. Dan Aykroyd (0)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 19:09pm

I am trying to find out why Johnny Rivers is not in the Rock N' Roll HOF? It seems to me. he has been on the scene forever, His music is phenomenal! He's had hits like Summer Rain, Look to your Soul, Secret Agent Man, Memphis, Rockin' Pneumonia - Boogie Woogie Flu and so many other great songs. How is he any less of an influence than Gene Pitney, who, I agree, definitely belongs within your walls? Is there anything a fan can do to get him nominated? It seems to me, he is way overdue. Thank you

Posted by Thomas Housley on Monday, 02/4/2019 @ 14:01pm

It is not truly the rock and roll hall of fame without The J. Geils eBand.

Posted by James on Tuesday, 02/5/2019 @ 19:43pm

^ The J. Geils Band? Don't make me laugh LOL

Posted by Timothy on Monday, 02/11/2019 @ 12:57pm

Chain of Flowers and Andy Anderson don't even have pages on FRL, but FRL is posting a tweet from someone who wants Chain of Flowers inducted!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/19/2019 @ 16:15pm

I think this might be a different Chain of Flowers. Check Chain of Flowers on iTunes.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/19/2019 @ 16:28pm

Is Tool mentioned for eligibility?

Posted by Gary Hoffman on Wednesday, 03/6/2019 @ 20:58pm

The Surfaris left out--really? Most drummers and guitar players cut their teeth on Wipe Out. Many would say that the band had "a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll." Hmmm?

Posted by Georgia on Wednesday, 03/20/2019 @ 22:09pm

Tower of Power should be inducted. They've been holding it down for 50 years.

Posted by Hiram Cooke on Wednesday, 05/1/2019 @ 17:25pm

Everyone has her favorite bands, everyone his. You like this but not that; I like that but not this. It's subjective, obviously. And everybody isn't a Hall of Famer. Still, there are quite a few who should be inducted into this Hall immediately. I would like to encourage the nominating and voting committees to take a close look at and listen to those artists who regularly appear on the "Snubs" list. There are several whose absence is just plain inexplicable, and it is high time for this to be rectified. First order of business: Jethro Tull.

Posted by Thomas Cochran on Friday, 05/3/2019 @ 09:54am

http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

THE 2020 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTING STATISTICS
MOST VOTES AND MOST YES VOTES FOR ELIGIBLE ACTS

01. Whitney Houston
02. Devo
03. Jethro Tull
04. Blink-182
05. Mariah Carey
06. Depeche Mode
07. Alice In Chains
08. Nine Inch Nails

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 06/11/2019 @ 08:27am

Coven and Tokio Hotel are never getting inducted!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 06/11/2019 @ 08:31am

I feel that as i look at the selection process that a genre of music has been left behind. Many of the 70's and early 80's rock and metal bands have been left out. I think if those bands were to get a look that they would get high fan votes. Some of the bands i would suggest are, Bad Company,Foreigner,Thin Lizzy,Iron Maiden,Ozzy Osbourne solo artist,Ronnie James Dio,Slayer. All these bands has had huge influence in music plus record sales.

Posted by Dale Moore on Friday, 07/5/2019 @ 14:18pm

You must be..1/ Freemason 2/ therefor satan worshipper 3/ sign contract in blood. Ask.. jimmy page ozzy Paul Macca (sacrificed) better ? Who deserves yet aren’t in?

Posted by Leeroy kincaid on Saturday, 07/20/2019 @ 09:54am

America has been around for over forty years and still performing. They meet all obligation and criteria to be inducted.

Posted by William Owens on Friday, 09/6/2019 @ 18:49pm

America has been around for over forty years and still performing. They meet all obligation and criteria to be inducted.

Posted by William Owens on Friday, 09/6/2019 @ 18:50pm

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_x1.html

Click the link above to read the critiques and ratings (12 pages)

150 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Candidates by Sampson

THE CURRENT ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

10 - The Immortals
9 - Deserves To Be A First Ballot Lock
8 - Should Be Guaranteed An Induction
7 - An Eventual Induction Is Likely
6 - Should Be Nominated At Some Point
5 - Worthy Of At Least A Debate For A Nomination
4 - Not Insignificant, But Shouldn't Be Nominated
3 - No Business Being Debated By Committee
2 - No Business Being Even Mentioned
1 - No Business Visiting The Hall Of Fame Without a Ticket

THE OLD ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

Click the link above to read the critiques and ratings (12 pages)

• Candidates A-C
• Candidates C-F
• Candidates G-K
• Candidates L-P
• Candidates P-S
• Candidates T-Z
• Unlikely Candidates
• Sidemen Candidates
• Early Influences
• Outside Genre
• Non-Performers
• Inductees 1986-Present

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2019 @ 12:13pm

Ok so if it is based on those qualifications that a band or performer gets inducted then please answer this. Why has Blue Oyster Cult not been inducted to the hall of fame?

Posted by Joseph Schulte on Thursday, 10/17/2019 @ 14:16pm

About the Induction Criteria, Joseph Schulte wrote:
Ok so if it is based on those qualifications that a band or performer gets inducted then please answer this. Why has Blue Oyster Cult not been inducted to the hall of fame?
Thursday, 10.17.19 @ 14:16pm

Digital Dream Door is not affiliated with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2019 @ 14:23pm

6 more years before 21st Century artists become eligible for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Thank God! 6 more years for the remaining/deserving 50s-60s-70s acts to have a a good shot at induction.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/17/2019 @ 15:29pm

Joel Peresman is suggesting a second ceremony for 50s-60s artists. I don't know if he means there will be two separate nomination ballots and two induction ceremonies each year, starting next year.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 22:15pm

After The Doobie Brothers are inducted, this is what's left from my wish list for induction as far as bands are concerned...

01. The Spinners
02. The Spencer Davis Group
03. The Kingston Trio
04. The Monkees
05. Jan & Dean
06. Jethro Tull
07. King Crimson
08. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
09. Blood, Sweat & Tears
10. Kool & The Gang
11. The Commodores
12. Foreigner
13. Joy Division/New Order
14. INXS

I would like to see Steve Winwood get two or three more inductions.

Solo inductions for Ben E. King, Carole King, Tina Turner, Diana Ross, Phil Collins, Lionel Richie.

Members of U.S.A For Africa who still need to be inducted: Harry Belafonte, Dionne Warwick, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings.

I don't care if Boston, Kansas, Styx, or REO Speedwagon ever get inducted.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/22/2019 @ 23:52pm

LET'S SEE HOW MANY OF THESE BANDS/GROUPS WILL BE INDUCTED BY 2025

01. The Spinners
02. The Spencer Davis Group
03. Peter, Paul & Mary
04. The Kingston Trio
05. The Monkees
06. Jan & Dean
07. Jethro Tull
08. King Crimson
09. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
10. Blood, Sweat & Tears
11. Kool & The Gang
12. The Commodores
13. The Pointer Sisters
14. Foreigner
15. Joy Division/New Order
16. INXS

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/23/2019 @ 04:24am

Johnny Winter and Edgar Winter, and ELP, yes 3 of my favorites, but they are favorites because the music is of a quality that transcends generations.
Influence? yes
Stylistic genius? yes
Classic? yes
How about having peers, other musicians voter for Hall Of Fame nominees and inductees?

Posted by DonnyB on Wednesday, 10/23/2019 @ 10:03am

Sweet- This band, with all their hits going back to Little Willie, ballroom blitz, fox on the run and more ... they don't even make the list of snubbed bands

Posted by Brad Niemuth on Friday, 11/8/2019 @ 08:28am

there should not be any way that other artist's that does not play rock and roll ie:guitar drumbs hell anything xcept grabbing thier crotch should not be even concidered how did we get to this place anyways 2 pac big is not rock and roll its total bullshit that KISS Judas priest and expecially motorhead is not in there yet it blows my mind yall need to get yalls shit together what the damn artist has to die first this ain't no art gallery damn rock and roll is just rock and roll man AC/DC I HAVE NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR ALL ARTISTS PERIOD but the CMA awards dont recognize other but country artists just dont make no sense

Posted by Jeff K on Friday, 11/22/2019 @ 08:09am

Snubbed bands... the fact the Jethro Tull has never even been nominated to the RRHOF makes one question the legitimacy of the process. Tull was so instrumental to late 60's and early 70's rock scene, and they brought a fresh look and sound to the stage. Need I say it, with such albums as: Aqualung, Benefit, Stand Up, Thick as a Brick, and Songs from the Wood... how could this band NOT be in the RRHOF? We all know who has been nominated and inducted... so this is clearly a snub in the highest degree. One must wonder if it could be that the committee is too insecure to acknowledge a band fronted by a codpiece wearing, flute playing genius? And if this is too much of a stretch for the committee, then maybe they really shouldn't be representing something that 'they' call the 'Rock & Roll Hall of Fame'.

Posted by Dan cummings on Friday, 11/29/2019 @ 18:54pm

There's nothing wrong with overlap between record sales and immortalization in the Rock Hall. How would the average American going to the museum for the first time know an artist if his or her records never sold well?
I love Steely Dan and Jackson Browne and have little interest in Alice Cooper or The O'Jays. So what? They all connected with millions of people.
What's great about the rock hall is what you learn by going there. Whether it's Patti Smith or Kiss (holding my breath), it's all part of the story.

Posted by Phil Hood on Sunday, 12/15/2019 @ 00:04am

Why is .38 Special not on the ballot? One of the best Southern Rock Bands on the planet!

Posted by Ken on Thursday, 01/9/2020 @ 19:59pm

@ Ken

Cause they have no requirements or don't have enough to the meet the criteria.

Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 01/9/2020 @ 22:08pm

I think soundgarden should of got in to the rock in roll hall of fame .this 2020 .I dont why they got snub for it .

Posted by Loriloriduchemin on Wednesday, 01/15/2020 @ 10:41am

There is a band which formed in the 1970s which remains left out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It is for this reason that I searched for the "criteria". If popularity, record sales, and accomplishments are not considered part of the criteria, then I don't know what else possibly could be! Popularity being one of the most important factors, but also that the band continues to perform to this day. I have seen them in concert numerous times in the past few years, I hear their classic rock songs on rock stations all the time...I heard "Urgent" in the car yesterday morning and I turn it up every time!! Foreigner has the staying power and the influence in classic music to this day. I'm a teen of the 80s and I'm shocked by who has not yet been inducted.

Posted by AF on Wednesday, 01/15/2020 @ 11:21am

How can I nominate Leo Thomas for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame?

Posted by Quawnita Frank on Thursday, 01/16/2020 @ 06:07am

Question .. if your criteria for choosing Artist for the R&R Hall of Fame is true then Please explain to me how Whitney Houston got chosen over Pat Benatar and N. BIG is chosen over Todd Rundgren . Todd's Achievements in R&R are so Great he should be a no brainier / walk in. (If) what you say is true and know what your talking about . Comment????

Posted by Eugene Leonard on Thursday, 01/16/2020 @ 07:25am

I am totally fine with the criteria used for the nomination and voting process. I just think that it should be called the "Music Hall of Fame" or something along those lines (incase that names taken, lol, probably). A lot of artists getting nominated and inducted are no longer what is considered "Rock n Roll".

Posted by Monica Monroe on Sunday, 01/19/2020 @ 12:04pm

I am a baby boomer senior citizen with a rather extensive music library. I consider myself somewhat knowledgeable in regards to rock and roll history.
I am very surprised that Procol Harum, The Pretty Things and Graham Parker are not yet inductees?
They all are more than deserving based on their contribution, excellence and consistency.
I trust this can be rectified in the near future.
Regards,
Fred Manuge

Posted by Fred Manuge on Thursday, 01/23/2020 @ 08:42am

I don't get how this works: I voted in the Fan Vote page every day so I saw how Dave Matthews Band DOMINATED the fan voting and yet . . . They're note one of the inductees? And T Rex did? (Don't get me wrong: I voted for T Rex every day for three months but they were WAY down in the poll.) As I said, I don't get it! Are we "fans" all ignoramuses?

Posted by Drew on Sunday, 02/2/2020 @ 12:53pm

I have looked over both the inductees and the nominees who have not been elected and for the most part I agree with all of the decisions. I am, however, surprised that Jim Croce has been neither nominated or elected. I'll admit that because of his relatively short career his body of work is not as extensive as many other artists. I often wonder if he would be elected if not for his early death.
I am also surprised that there is no category explicitly for songwriters and composers. Several artists in the Hall of fame have had great careers singing the music that were written by talented individuals who just could not perform their own music. Even the Beatles performed the music of others.

Posted by jack chandler on Monday, 02/24/2020 @ 12:48pm

You should go back into the past and please consider Gary Lewis and the Playboys, The Association, The Turtles , and The Grass roots as inductees. Personally some of the groups I feel some of the groups that were recommended and or inducted really have not been that influential. Please please consider these groups for future consideration.

Posted by Gary Hough on Thursday, 03/12/2020 @ 21:43pm

How can we get some of the greatest guitarists of all time, Johnny Winter, Rory Gallagher, Robin Trower into the hall of fame,

Posted by Rodney Martin on Tuesday, 04/21/2020 @ 17:11pm

Why isnt Slayer and Pantera here? They are literally the pinnacle of heavy.

Posted by Daryl Skaw on Wednesday, 04/29/2020 @ 02:43am

Should Bruce Morrow (Cousin Brucie) be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Morrow

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05/1/2020 @ 16:49pm

If this HOF was the wikipedia list of the best-selling music artists of all time, many people would have no interest to visit this exhibition. Too boring, nothing new and too predictable. At the same time, if this was just about people who work in the background/non famous people who nobody ever heard of, it would be boring too.

Same like in a history museum. There is the big dinosaur skeleton in the middle as a highlight and than there is other exhibition stuff around. Only the exhibition would be less of interest and there is no highlight, only the dinosaur also is not „it". The combination is what draws a crowd.

Posted by Brian Dunson on Saturday, 05/2/2020 @ 09:07am

I believe that Boz Scaggs should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it's about time.

Posted by Blanca winter Duncan on Wednesday, 05/20/2020 @ 01:33am

Liam wrote: " Most people just want mindless, unchallenging entertainment in their music, not art." This sounds rather snobbish to me. It is important to remember that art is in the eye, and ear, of the beholder. I am interested to know who makes up the committee that nominates each year's inductees and who the 1,000 artists are that vote on them.

Posted by Ingerid on Sunday, 05/24/2020 @ 03:14am

Have you considered John Waite for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame....I would think he should be considered before some of the receiptants now. He has definitely influenced many and never strayed from his passion. Someone please consider or at least throw his name in the hat. He definitely is very deserving and long over do! Thanks

Posted by Christian Jagger on Wednesday, 06/3/2020 @ 13:00pm

My criteria for induction is:
Influence and Innovation: Having an impact on the music
Has to be in any genre that stems from rock
10 years since first album
Has to be from the 20th century or later
Must have at least one album to qualify
For the non-performers category, must have at least some association/and a job with musicians (producers, etc.)

Posted by Liam McNicholas on Wednesday, 06/24/2020 @ 20:53pm

You should induct YOUNG ASTRONAUTS CLUB, this band is highly influential and criminally overlooked.

Posted by Steve Jones on Saturday, 08/1/2020 @ 09:21am

True, Steve. These people don't even know who the artists they are inducting are influenced by (ahem, copying). I'd also say Fugazi deserves a wing of their own in the museum. And Swans.

Posted by Alice Godley on Saturday, 08/1/2020 @ 09:23am

Yeah, Alice. YOUNG ASTRONAUTS CLUB is copied by so many of these older groups who are already in the hall. Kind of a shame to think that the copycats are getting credit but not the real deal. Just shows how the 'industry' is these days. Not much has changed since the days of Elvis copying black artists and calling it his own.

Posted by Steve Jones on Saturday, 08/1/2020 @ 09:26am

Steve,

What artists that have already been inducted have been influenced by the Young Astronauts Club, and if they are so influential, why can't I find any information about them besides a Bandcamp page? (Really, not even Allmusic or Wikipedia?)

Posted by RG on Saturday, 08/1/2020 @ 12:32pm

I believe induction of any artist or band should be on the strength of their music.
The lyrics and music should not sound dated or at the very least stand the test of time.
INXS are an excellent of this...their lyrics speak of diversity and/or positive themes.
The songs also had danceable beats which transcend time.

Posted by Lisa Urban on Wednesday, 08/5/2020 @ 12:48pm

There are so many of the older groups and single artists who should, in my opinion, be in the hall of fame. Three Dog Night, Gary Puckett and Union Gap, and The Grass Roots just to name a few. Have we completely forgotten them just because they came earlier? I enjoy listening to these groups. At least you can understand what they are saying when you sing with them!!

Posted by Mary Hall on Sunday, 08/16/2020 @ 16:55pm

Black groups, multiple years nominated, still not inducted!!

War - 2009, 2012, 2015
Chic - 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Rufus - 2012, 2018, 2019, 2020
The Meters - 1997, 2013, 2014, 2018
The Spinners - 2012, 2015, 2016
The Marvelettes - 2013, 2015

2009 - War * Chic

2012 - War * Rufus * The Spinners

2013 - Chic * The Meters * The Marvelettes

2014 - Chic * The Meters

2015 - War * Chic * The Spinners * The Marvelettes

2016 - Chic * The Spinners

2018 - The Meters * Rufus

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09/3/2020 @ 06:57am

Johnny Rivers needs to be in the rock and roll hall of fame. it a damm shame the man a legend and a important part of the soundtrack of my life.

Posted by Fred king on Saturday, 09/12/2020 @ 11:25am

Thought it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because it's supposed to be for "Rock and Roll Music". Turned into Pop and anything goes.... It lost it's luster.....it's done. Clearly states in Stewarts letter in his following statement:

Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists' contributions to the development and perpetuation of "rock and roll".

Madonna is not Rock and Roll and never will be.

Posted by roz on Saturday, 09/12/2020 @ 16:27pm

Lenny Kravitz should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without any hesitation.

Posted by Mary Short on Sunday, 09/13/2020 @ 11:02am

To say one of the criteria to be inducted depends on what record label you're on is idiotic! There's so many artists out there that will never be considered even though they can fill a football or baseball stadium, because of what genre of music they are! Not everyone likes pop rock, radio rock, rap, country, jazz, blues, etc. Why be so narrow minded?? Listen to some Chelsea Grin...they'll expand your mind! That's what's popular right now!

Posted by Ricky MacMetal on Sunday, 09/13/2020 @ 11:20am

The Fresh Beat Band, The Village People, and The Fat Boys should be nominated and inducted in the RRHOF.

How can we get these groups inducted ?

Posted by George Peterson on Wednesday, 09/23/2020 @ 17:47pm

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Posted by Roy on Friday, 09/25/2020 @ 12:36pm

THE 2021 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

https://futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

1. Devo
2. Jethro Tull
3. Duran Duran
4. Alice In Chains
5. Foo Fighters
6. The Smiths
7. Blink-182
8. Backstreet Boys
9. Mariah Carey

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/8/2020 @ 04:19am

Monty Python

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/10/2020 @ 15:42pm

Induct Monty Python into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/10/2020 @ 15:46pm

I can't believe Joe Cocker hasn't been inducted yet. He was a tremendous influence on me and a lot of my friends. We was iconic at Woodstock & the Mad Dogs & Englishmen album was classic. He outclasses a number of current artists by a mile.

Posted by Patrick Nee on Friday, 10/16/2020 @ 09:59am

Many of the groups that are in the Hall of Fame today, should not be there it's called The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame rock and roll started about 1954 or 55, and came to an end about 1962 those are the only artists that are truly rock and roll performers. Johnny Maestro & the crest our group that should be there. I do not know why they are not since they're still playing their records today in the year 2020. I just don't get it

Posted by Kermit on Saturday, 10/17/2020 @ 12:11pm

I'm sure that there are many others who feel that Vanilla Fudge need to be nominated for the HOF. They were so instrumental in their influence of many other groups including Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple.

Posted by Paul S Kolb on Saturday, 11/7/2020 @ 08:54am

Please nominate Tool!

Posted by Tracey Jones on Saturday, 11/7/2020 @ 20:47pm

01. Mary Wells
02. Ben E. King
03. Carole King
04. Diana Ross
05. Tina Turner
06. Judy Collins
07. Harry Belafonte
08. Dionne Warwick
09. Chubby Checker
10. Patsy Cline
11. Dolly Parton
12. Willie Nelson
13. Connie Francis
14. Merle Haggard
15. Waylon Jennings
16. Joe Cocker
17. Phil Collins
18. Carly Simon
19. Billy Preston
20. Steve Winwood

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/11/2020 @ 14:53pm

NOT IN YET

01. Mary Wells
02. Ben E. King
03. Carole King
04. Diana Ross
05. Tina Turner
06. Judy Collins
07. Billy Preston
08. Harry Belafonte
09. Dionne Warwick
10. Chubby Checker
11. Patsy Cline
12. Dolly Parton
13. Willie Nelson
14. Connie Francis
15. Merle Haggard
16. Waylon Jennings
17. Joe Cocker
18. Phil Collins
19. Carly Simon
20. Steve Winwood

01. Foreigner
02. Thin Lizzy
03. Jethro Tull
04. Jan & Dean
05. Judas Priest
06. Iron Maiden
07. Steppenwolf
08. The Spinners
09. King Crimson
10. Bad Company
11. The Monkees
12. The Marvelettes
13. Kool & The Gang
14. The Kingston Trio
15. The Commodores
16. Peter, Paul & Mary
17. Blood, Sweat & Tears
18. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
19. The Spencer Davis Group
20. Joy Division / New Order

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12/12/2020 @ 13:48pm

This is the "rock & roll" hall of fame. Why are there rappers/ hip hop artists in when deserving rock bands cant get in. The vote of who gets in should be up to the people as well as who gets nominated. Just an oppinion.

Posted by William on Friday, 12/25/2020 @ 15:40pm

What about Raspberries for the category of Early Influencers. Their rock style was proclaimed pop rock and they were admired by Springsteen, Courtney Love, and the Sex Pistols. John Lennon liked them too, especially their hit "Overnight Sensation". And they are from Cleveland!

Posted by Michelle Kapes on Saturday, 01/30/2021 @ 14:35pm

I just don't get the criteria in it's entirety. I mean you have a band like the J. Geils band who has been snubbed out of the Rock Hall after being nominated 4 times. Then, you have somebody with much less impact who gets into the Rock Hall.
Also, how come Bad Company, Brian Eno, John Waite, and the Eurhythmics are not in the Hall?
I would think that these musicians and or individuals were innovators as well as artists! They influenced the Rock and Roll world and changed because of their own music style! Isn't it really about having an impact as well as the 25 years of longevity?

Posted by Dan on Friday, 02/12/2021 @ 17:47pm

SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR
RATES THE 2021 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME NOMINEES

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2021.html

10 - Jay-Z
9 - Mary J. Blige
8 - LL Cool J
7 - Carole King
7 - Tina Turner
7 - Chaka Khan
7 - Iron Maiden
7 - Foo Fighters
7 - The Go-Go's
6 - Fela Kuti
6 - Rage Against The Machine
5 - Dionne Warwick
5 - Todd Rundgren
5 - New York Dolls
5 - Kate Bush
5 - Devo

Critiques and Ratings (12 pages)

150 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Candidates by Sampson of Digital Dream Door

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_x1.html

THE CURRENT ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

10 - The Immortals
9 - Deserves To Be A First Ballot Lock
8 - Should Be Guaranteed An Induction
7 - An Eventual Induction Is Likely
6 - Should Be Nominated At Some Point
5 - Worthy Of At Least A Debate For A Nomination
4 - Not Insignificant, But Shouldn't Be Nominated
3 - No Business Being Debated By Committee
2 - No Business Being Even Mentioned
1 - No Business Visiting The Hall Of Fame Without a Ticket

THE OLD ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

Click the link above to read the critiques and ratings (12 pages)

• Candidates A-C
• Candidates C-F
• Candidates G-K
• Candidates L-P
• Candidates P-S
• Candidates T-Z
• Unlikely Candidates
• Sidemen Candidates
• Early Influences
• Outside Genre
• Non-Performers
• Inductees 1986-Present

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02/14/2021 @ 18:52pm

Dan Fogelberg PLEASE! I'm 65 years old watched the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show and Fogelberg is better in all categories!

Posted by James Landon on Tuesday, 02/16/2021 @ 17:05pm

James, I watched them too on the Ed Sullivan show (really big show...really big!) and I think you're nuts.

I think Mr. Fogelberg would think you're nuts...

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 02/17/2021 @ 06:41am

It's way past time for the Association to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. With only two founding members surviving, they are long overdue.

Posted by Robert Flocke on Wednesday, 02/24/2021 @ 08:26am

The Hall of Fame turned strange. I do enjoy the comments here and did enjoy the broadcasts, especially the all-star jams. However, the Hall is becoming the Grammy(r) Awards. Any music artist is eligible. That's crazy broad. What classifies as rock is somewhat subjective, but Hip Hop is not Rock. Jethro Tull was rock. Jay-Z is not. Both are music. But rock is not just whatever artists are hit worthy music and eligible set years after a first album.

I would be perfectly fine with the Hall creating a cut-off date. After 2000 you're hitting diminishing returns; after 1990 you really have a flood of artists that need their own genre hall, not as rock. Most artists after a certain point are something not rock. Sure, exceptions perhaps. Is Britney or Lady Gaga rock. Probably. Is Whitney Houston? Nope. Power pop is not rock. It may come down to what radio station was playing it first.

I ask this -- Would Van Halen classify as Classical music because his Eruption was like Bach? I would argue no. Classical is not Jazz is not Rock is not Hip Hop. Disco is a tough call. Country? Nope, John Denver is not rock. Roy Clark, great player, but not rock.

I am not sure I could define rock except to say the Ramones had more in common with Elvis than GWA. Am I racist? Maybe, but if trends continue the Rock Hall of Fame is drowning in rap and boy bands. Your pyramid describes it best...what act in the music canon of rock will ever be top tier? It does seem filled. A hall celebrating rock with great exhibits would be nice to visit. An album of the month club is as stupid to me as the Natural History museum showing Andy Warhol Soup Cans.

Posted by red on Thursday, 03/11/2021 @ 04:04am

THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Ben E. King
Mary Wells
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
The Shangri-Las
Chubby Checker
Harry Belafonte
Willie Nelson
Judy Collins
The Kingston Trio
Peter, Paul & Mary
The Spencer Davis Group
Jan & Dean
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
Foreigner

THIS IS WHAT A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
BALLOT SHOULD LOOK LIKE!

NOW VOTE FOR 7 INDUCTEES!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/11/2021 @ 00:39am

Actually, it shouldn't (unless I have a piece of the action, that i$), and never will!

Posted by Horn-Headed Azoff on Tuesday, 05/11/2021 @ 01:51am

Are you Irving Azoff?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/11/2021 @ 02:09am

this is a joke. my friends and I absolutely laugh every year at the people/bands that get inducted. Black Sabbath, possibly the most iconic band ever, didn't get inducted until 37 years after the release if their first album. Still no Iron Maiden??!! The name of this "club" needs to be changed to Music Hall of Fame.

Posted by Mike Cass on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 09:24am

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. Eminem
04. Backstreet Boys
05. Blink-182
06. Mariah Carey
07. Duran Duran
08. Alice In Chains
09. The Smiths
10. Smashing Pumpkins

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2021: Foo Fighters
2020: Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019: Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018: The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017: Yes * Journey
2016: Chicago * Deep Purple
2015: Green Day
2014: Kiss * Nirvana
2013: Rush

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 15:46pm

Carole King > Carly Simon > Judy Collins
Tina Turner > Chaka Khan > Cher
Todd Rundgren > Joe Cocker > Warren Zevon > Captain Beefheart > Harry Nilsson > Gram Parsons
The Go-Go's > The Bangles
Foo Fighters > Blink-182
Jay-Z > Eminem > Dr. Dre
LL Cool J > Ice Cube
Gil Scott-Heron > DJ Kool Herc > The Last Poets > The Watts Prophets > Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Kraftwerk > Devo > Daft Punk
Randy Rhoads > Steve Vai
Billy Preston > The Meters
Charley Patton > Carter Family
Clarence Avant > Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/13/2021 @ 20:47pm

Right or Wrong, the music industry capitalizes on their promotion of renowned artist. Specific songs, " label" an artist or a band. Dr. Hook and Mr. Locorriere's finest unpromoted songs are:
1.Cooky and Lila 2.Jungle to the Zoo 3.Clyde 4.I gave her comfort 5.The Radio 6.Sweetest of All 7.Oh, Jesse 8. Carrie Me Carrie 9.Unreleased(?) BEST SONG 'Nobody Hears What I Say' Lyrics by Shel Silverstein/Vocals Dennis Locorriere 10. More Like The Movies 11.Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
Dr. Hook and Dennis Locorriere's versatility from what originated as a "Bar Band" cataloged a repertory genre of ballads, rock n roll, country, and dance music. Mr. Locorriere's solo accomplishments further solidify induction to the RnR hall of fame. Mr. Locorriere has also mentioned in interviews the band played to live in the bar venues! I imagine they needed to be aware of the exit to the back alley too! Mr. Locorriere's vocals encompass silky, soulful, and passionate complex culminations in each genre he performs. From the back alley bars..."DL"...A STAR IS BORN! After the play by Shel Silverstein, DL's thespian talent was evident and rarely noted. DL=Persian Silk Tree w/roots of Cocker, Joplin, Seger, R.Charles, Dylan, B.Holly , Louis Armstrong and D.Gray -all perennials audible in the one voice of DL. In the forest of renowned artist, DL is a unique prodigy w/a sriracha growl. - Guy Lombardo (Violinist) would approve his band. Proclaimed: Dennis Locorriere/Dr.Hook=epitome of architectural beams in the RnR Hall of Fame. Don't know of another artist who can vocally enunciate crying the song Sylvia's Mother.

Posted by MaryAnn Saady on Friday, 05/28/2021 @ 17:15pm

The Diamonds, The Clovers, The Surfaris, The Hollies, The Troggs, The Turtles, The Monkees, The Kingston Trio, Herman's Hermits, The Kingsmen, The Searchers, The Spinners, The Box Tops, The Chiffons, The Marvelettes, The Crystals, The Harptones, The Miracles, The Contours, The Whispers, Little Anthony and the Imperials, Tommy James and the Shondells, Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Osmonds, The Moody Blues, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Chicago, Genesis, Derek and the Dominos, The Spencer Davis Group, Blind Faith, Captain Beefheart, The Paul Butterfield Band, The Blues Project, Iron Butterfly, Three Dog Night, The Doobie Brothers, The Commodores, Kool & The Gang, Dire Straits, Procol Harum, Yes, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull, Alice Cooper, KISS, Rush, The Cars, Cheap Trick, Heart, Electric Light Orchestra, REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, Journey, Styx, Boston, Kansas, America, Toto, Chic, Thin Lizzy, Blue Oyster Cult, Judas Priest, Little Feat, Fairport Convention, Steppenwolf, The Average White Band, The Guess Who, Canned Heat, Hot Tuna, Mott the Hoople, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, Grandfunk Railroad, Love, Supertramp, Roxy Music, Manfred Mann, Mannheim Steamroller, The Carpenters, The Steve Miller Band, The Stooges, The New York Dolls, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Spinal Tap, KC and the Sunshine Band, Tony Orlando and Dawn, The Neville Brothers, ABBA, Air Supply, Bread, War, Free, 10cc, Ambrosia, Joy Division, New Order, Television, The Buzzcocks, Billy Idol, Duran Duran, Def Leppard, Beastie Boys, RUN DMC, INXS, Bon Jovi, 10,000 Maniacs, Metallica, Guns 'N' Roses, Nirvana, Pearl Jam

Peter, Paul and Mary, Jan and Dean, Sonny and Cher, Chad and Jeremy, Ashford and Simpson, Loggins and Messina, Seals and Crofts, Hall & Oates, Rufus and Chaka Khan, Wham!

Ella Fitzgerald, Barbra Streisand, Leslie Gore, Patsy Cline, Petula Clark, Dolly Parton, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Nico, Melanie, Laura Nyro, Janis Ian, Mary Wells, Roberta Flack, Dionne Warwick, Patti Labelle, Marianne Faithful, Anne Murray, Darlene Love, Cher, Tina Turner, Bette Midler, Carly Simon, Linda Ronstadt, Helen Reddy, Melissa Manchester, Donna Summer, Gloria Gaynor, Chaka Khan, The Pointer Sisters, Olivia Newton-John, Stevie Nicks, Cyndi Lauper, Pat Benatar, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine, Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson

Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Mel Torme, Pat Boone, Johnny Mathis, John Coltrane, Willie Nelson, Harry Belafonte, The Big Bopper, Chubby Checker, Tiny Tim, Ben E. King, Lee Dorsey, Bobby Rydell, Paul Anka, Neil Sedaka, Dick Dale, Donovan, Fabian, Tom Jones, Neil Diamond, Engelbert Humperdink, Kris Kristofferson, Kenny Rogers, Randy Newman, Phil Ochs, Don Ho, Don McLean, Jim Croce, Cat Stevens, John Denver, Joe Cocker, Ringo Starr, Barry White, Lou Rawls, Albert King, Joe Tex, Charles Mingus, Thelonious Monk, Todd Rundgren, Billy Preston, Aaron Neville, Harry Nillson, Jimmy Cliff, Leon Russell, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Gordon Lightfoot, Steve Winwood, Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, Lionel Richie, Don Henley, Sting, Jeff Beck, Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley, Boz Scaggs, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Ozzy Osbourne, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, Warren Zevon, Tom Waits, Eddie Money, George Benson, Al Jarreau, James Ingram, Peabo Bryson, Luther Vandross, Herbie Hancock, Kenny Loggins, Robert Palmer, Bryan Adams, George Michael,
"Weird Al" Yankovic

Posted by Brian on Friday, 06/4/2021 @ 07:42am

Why has Connie Francis not in the Rocking Roll Hall Of fame? I can't believe it. She was amazing!!! I've enoyed her music from the 60's to now. I'm 70 years old and she's still at the top of my lists of favorites with some others that I've loved through my life.

Posted by Barbara Jones on Monday, 07/5/2021 @ 16:27pm

Have you all forgotten Foghat and what they meant to music at that time

Posted by Ronnie Ray Maxwell on Wednesday, 08/18/2021 @ 16:57pm

So you don't need to have actually played rock music but need to have been out 25 years. That explains 14 members not having a rock song being in the HOF. Should just change the name to the Music Hall of Fame.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 08/28/2021 @ 15:34pm

And who are those 14?

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 08/28/2021 @ 19:09pm

Why isn't Pat Benetar inducted yet?

Posted by Chaz on Wednesday, 10/27/2021 @ 09:23am

TOTO, their presence has influenced many artists including: Lionel Richie, Genesis, Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, Justin Bieber, Sia, Philip Bailey, and so on and so on. Their debut was released in 1978, and yet their influence began before they even formed their own band. Boz Scaggs' success is influenced by TOTO's contributions to his 1976 album, "Silk Degrees", leading to another album with heavy influence: 1980s "Middle Man".

Posted by Oscar Soria on Thursday, 10/28/2021 @ 00:38am

I would like to see New Edition nominated or considered for the Rock and Roll hall of fame, they are six members that in their own right are successful and now have a new generation loving their commitment and music.

Posted by Cheryllynn McGriff on Sunday, 10/31/2021 @ 13:51pm

Look who Andy Greene of Rolling Stone Magazine is pushing for...

The Hall of Fame had pulled off yet another magical evening. And with the Smiths, Devo, Carly Simon, Phil Collins, Pixies, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Joy Division/New Order, and the Monkees all waiting to get in (not to mention Taylor Swift in 2032), there will be many more to come.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-live-reviews/2021-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-induction-review-1251077/

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10/31/2021 @ 14:47pm

I nominate "Gypsy Queen". They started over 34 years ago in 1987, with a completely different line-up than what they have today. Gypsy Queen started out with the Mattioli twins, Pamela & Paula, singing lead vocals. But things changed when Pamela died suddenly from a heart condition back in 2014. That's when they decided to form up again as the new Gypsy Queen band, currently consisting of lead vocalist Paula Mattioli, guitarist Scotty Migone, bassist / keyboardist Joe A. Ojeda and drummer Kenny Wendland.

I personally know Scotty Migone, and also know that while he was playing in various bands in South Florida, he would regularly share his guitar with Johnny Depp when Depp's band, The Kids, were gigging in South Florida. Scotty was also the lead guitarist for the band "Jesse Strange", who released their song "Love On The Telephone" which got national airplay. Scotty Migone has been playing lead guitar all over the world for the past 30 years.Throughout the many years, Scotty has also logged thousands of hours in studio time and session work playing lead and back-up guitar on many albums for many different producers and bands. Some of the producers and albums Scotty has worked with are: Recordings with producer Jack Douglas of Aerosmith, Barry Maraz of Styx, Brad Shapiro of James Brown, The Albert Brothers of Eric Clapton, to name a few. Scotty's most notable gig was when he played at the White House a few years ago.

Kenny Wendland has been in the music business professionally for over 40 years. He started out in Easton, Pennsylvania at the age of 6 playing with local bands at weddings and clubs. In 1984, his band "Fury" traveled to Florida to play Spring Break in Ft. Lauderdale. After experiencing the club scene and the weather there, the band decided to move to Florida for good. The band Fury had a cameo in the movie "Spring Break"(1983).

Joey Ojeda is a Cuban born bassist and keyboard player. At an early age his family was able to escaped communist Cuba and move to Madrid, Spain, it was there that Joey discovered his passion for music playing in the parks of Madrid with Gypsy Flamenco guitar players he soon mixed the Latin Afro-Cuban percussion sounds that lives inside every Latin artist with the Gypsy Flamenco rhythms creating some very interesting feels greatly appreciated by the Gypsies he was learning from. His family then moved to Miami Florida. Somewhere in the mid 80's he auditioned for Gypsy Queen as a bassist, and has been with Gypsy Queen permanently.

In a historical context, Gypsy Queen performed in Russia in 1989 actually weeks before the Berlin wall came down and long before most American bands played for any Russian audiences.

For a much more complete history of the band, you can click here:
www. gypsyqueenrocks. com/about

Posted by David Jones on Saturday, 11/13/2021 @ 18:23pm

DAVID CASSIDY SHOULD BE IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.
DAVID CASSIDY SINGS THE NUMBER#1 HIT OF 1970 AS DAVID CASSIDY SINGS THE PARTRIDGE FAMILY SONG
I THINK I LOVE YOU.
DAVID CASSIDY WOULD ALWAYS SING THIS SONG IN CONCERT.

Posted by STEVE YOUNG on Friday, 11/26/2021 @ 18:58pm

Alanis Morissette

Posted by JosephHunt on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 12:24pm

We would like to nominate Kal David one of the Greatest Blues guitarists . He was so great playing with the Fabulous Rhinestones and many other bands. He has a soulful outreaching voice. He is 78 years old and still performing with his beautiful and talented wife, Lauri Bono.

Posted by Tom &Genie Ball on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 12:49pm

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS WOULD GET RIGHT ABOUT THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY

Devo * Duran Duran * Eminem

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. Eminem
04. Backstreet Boys
05. Blink-182
06. Mariah Carey
07. Duran Duran
08. Alice In Chains
09. Nickelback
10. Smashing Pumpkins

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2021: Foo Fighters
2020: Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019: Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018: The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017: Yes * Journey
2016: Chicago * Deep Purple
2015: Green Day
2014: Kiss * Nirvana
2013: Rush

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02/3/2022 @ 09:51am

SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR
RATES THE 2021 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME NOMINEES

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2022.html

10 - Eminem
8 - A Tribe Called Quest
7 - Beck
7 - Duran Duran
6 - MC5
6 - Fela Kuti
6 - Eurythmics
6 - Judas Priest
6 - Rage Against The Machine
6 - Lionel Richie
5 - Dionne Warwick
5 - Dolly Parton
5 - Carly Simon
5 - Kate Bush
5 - New York Dolls
5 - Devo
4 - Pat Benatar

Critiques and Ratings (12 pages)

150 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Candidates by Sampson of Digital Dream Door

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_x1.html

THE CURRENT ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

10 - The Immortals
9 - Deserves To Be A First Ballot Lock
8 - Should Be Guaranteed An Induction
7 - An Eventual Induction Is Likely
6 - Should Be Nominated At Some Point
5 - Worthy Of At Least A Debate For A Nomination
4 - Not Insignificant, But Shouldn't Be Nominated
3 - No Business Being Debated By Committee
2 - No Business Being Even Mentioned
1 - No Business Visiting The Hall Of Fame Without a Ticket

THE OLD ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME QUALIFICATION SCALE
BY SAMPSON OF DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

Click the link above to read the critiques and ratings (12 pages)

• Candidates A-C
• Candidates C-F
• Candidates G-K
• Candidates L-P
• Candidates P-S
• Candidates T-Z
• Unlikely Candidates
• Sidemen Candidates
• Early Influences
• Outside Genre
• Non-Performers
• Inductees 1986-Present

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02/3/2022 @ 14:45pm

It seems like there is a movement at the Rock Hall that started in 2021 to nominate and/or induct mostly solo artists for some reason. Laziness maybe, because they don't want to have to deal with which members of bands to induct. It sucks when the fans know more than the committee that chooses which members of a ban to induct.

21 solo

01. LL Cool J
02. Mary J. Blige
03. Jay-Z
04. Beck
05. Eminem
06. Fela Kuti
07. Kate Bush
08. Pat Benatar
09. Carly Simon
10. Chaka Khan
11. Lionel Richie
12. Dolly Parton
13. Dionne Warwick
14. Tina Turner
15. Carole King
16. Todd Rundgren
17. Billy Preston
18. Randy Rhoads
19. Gil Scott-Heron
20. Charley Patton
21. Clarence Avant

12 bands/groups

01. MC5
02. Judas Priest
03. Iron Maiden
04. New York Dolls
05. Devo
06. Kraftwerk
07. Duran Duran
08. Eurythmics
09. The Go-Go's
10. Rage Against The Machine
11. A Tribe Called Quest
12. Foo Fighters

If there really is a movement towards nominating more solo artists, then that's a good sign for the following acts:

01. Ben E. King
02. Mary Wells
03. Arthur Alexander
04. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
05. Chubby Checker
06. Harry Belafonte
07. Diana Ross
08. Willie Nelson
09. Merle Haggard
10. Waylon Jennings
11. George Jones
12. Loretta Lynn
13. Patsy Cline
14. Connie Francis
15. Judy Collins
16. Phil Collins
17. Steve Winwood
18. Gram Parsons
19. Captain Beefheart
20. Warren Zevon
21. Harry Nilsson
22. Joe Cocker
23. Barry White
24. Patti Labelle
25. Roberta Flack

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02/5/2022 @ 09:28am

Many artists meet this so called criteria but many artists don't make it and meatloaf is one of them! Why isn't he there? Even though he died he should have been inducted years ago long before some of the rappers the key word is here rock and roll how did the rappers qualify? I have nothing against rap and some are very talented but I think that they should have their own category or their own wrap and roll Hall of Fame! The two types of music aren't even comparable they are two completely separate entities and both have influences over the music industry so call it what it is rock and roll Hall of Fame,

Posted by Doreese Everitt on Saturday, 02/5/2022 @ 17:10pm

Only 4 out of the 29 current members of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominating committee are black: James Bernard - The Source Magazine, Reginald C. Dennis - The Source Magazine, Tom Morello, and Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson. I guess they are the ones nominating rappers. Dave Grohl and Tom Morello are also the ones nominating heavy metal bands. White Heavy Metal bands are having trouble getting inducted, while black R&B groups are having trouble getting nominated.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/9/2022 @ 15:20pm

"If ever an Angel was sent to an entire generation….
Rumors were spreading around the town of Bethel that Max Yasgur was thinking of letting a bunch of long hairs have a festival on his property. Personal threats were launched, and a sign popped up reading: " Don't Buy Yasgur's Milk. He Loves The Hippies." "The sign did it," said Miriam Yasgur, "When Max saw that, I knew darned well he was going to let them have their festival. You didn't do that to Max."
People didn't want the long hairs in their town. At a town meeting many were there to complain. After hearing a number of complaints about the upcoming concert, Yasgur asked each official there if there were any legal stipulations, within their respective departments, that hadn't been met to accommodate the expected 40,000 people per day. When no reservations were raised, he addressed the entire meeting saying: "So the only objection to having a festival here is to keep longhairs out of town? Well, you can all go pound salt up your ass, because come August 15, we're going to have a festival!"
Max Yasgur passed away 49 years ago today on Feb. 9, 1973. He was just a farmer. Max had thought that there would only be about 40,000 people per day. But as the song says…. "By the time we got to Woodstock we were half a million strong"
RIP Max. A generation thanks you."

I think this entitles Max Yasgur a place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The above comment are not my words.

Posted by Rosemary on Thursday, 02/10/2022 @ 17:05pm

INXS should get a nod ... and soon!

Posted by Ariel Waterstone on Tuesday, 02/15/2022 @ 16:28pm

TOTAL VOTES ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS (YES AND NO COMBINED)

7801 - Jethro Tull
5576 - Alice In Chains
4905 - King Crimson
4860 - Smashing Pumpkins
4801 - The Smiths
4652 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
3857 - Soundgarden

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/23/2022 @ 08:08am

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02/24/2022 @ 14:25pm

TOTAL VOTES ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS (YES AND NO COMBINED)

7801 - Jethro Tull
5576 - Alice In Chains
4905 - King Crimson
4860 - Smashing Pumpkins
4801 - The Smiths
4733 - Dave Matthews Band
4724 - Iron Maiden
4652 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
4565 - The Monkees
3857 - Soundgarden

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02/24/2022 @ 14:37pm

TOTAL VOTES ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS (YES AND NO COMBINED)

7801 - Jethro Tull
6436 - Blink-182
6022 - Duran Duran
5576 - Alice In Chains
4905 - King Crimson
4860 - Smashing Pumpkins
4801 - The Smiths
4733 - Dave Matthews Band
4724 - Iron Maiden
4652 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
4565 - The Monkees
3857 - Soundgarden

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02/24/2022 @ 14:51pm

I nominate Eddie Money. He has so many followers who love and appreciate his music and lyrics. I am willing to pay money for his nomination. So many of his fans want him to be recognized for his contributions.

Posted by Susan Brown on Monday, 02/28/2022 @ 23:45pm

RIP DRUMMER SANDY NELSON

first of a lot of things To many to mention

Phil Spector first drummer first stereo rock LP recording First rock star drummer with a hit LP Thats just the tip. Influence is really long

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 03/1/2022 @ 01:06am

Ok this will sound unorthodoxI'm sure. However the contribution they made to opening a world of music to people who might not have ever found it pre internet is profound. If teaching diversity and creating interest in music is something this organization values then I sincerely ask that you consider Beavis and Buthead for a future ballot nomination. I assume it would fall under non performer. .

Posted by Randall Hunt on Tuesday, 03/8/2022 @ 18:25pm

It is bewildering to us that Three Dog Night is not in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Three Dog Night earned 12 gold albums and recorded 21 consecutive Billboard Top 40 hits, seven of which went gold. For the millions of teens who went to high school dances from 1969 to 1975, it was imperative that the local, live band could play "Celebrate", "Eli's Coming" and "Easy to be Hard", otherwise they went home disappointed. These same teens, now much older, still flock to hear this band whenever they are nearby. Their songs were a signpost for me as I grappled with the typical turmoils of high school and college. Three Dog Night's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is long overdue.

Posted by Steven Moore on Friday, 03/11/2022 @ 08:54am

It's becoming less of a point to be inducted into this club than it would be to simply deny the induction, and as a result retaining the integrity of the artist as one that avoids this Cliche' corral-grouping none sense altogether. Where is its value if everyone who did anything contributing to making a sound is inducted ? "Everyone outside of the circle please take one step inside the circle", ..now it's official..? The R&R hall of fame has become nothing more than THE glorified Bathroom wall.

Posted by Hampstead on Monday, 03/14/2022 @ 19:46pm

A lot of people mentioned giving it to acts like The J. Geils Band or Rufus with Chaka Khan but I'd like to see the Award for Musical Excellence be awarded to mainly individuals or duos rather than bands going forward, with stuff like E Street Band being the exception. Honouring big name bands that couldn't make it doesn't feel right to me but honouring an individual with an impressive body of work but no real avenue to enter the Hall, either due to limited commercial success, short life span, or general outsiderness (such as Ian MacKaye, Ronnie James Dio, Robert Polland, Captain Beefheart, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Kathleen Hanna, Stephin Merritt, Mike Portnoy, Mos Def, and Sylvia Robinson) makes a ton of sense.

Use it for important people, not star bands who failed on the ballot.

Posted by Mat R on Wednesday, 03/16/2022 @ 20:00pm

I was shocked when I found out JP "The Big Bopper" Richardson has never been inducted into the Rock Hall Of Fame. I've read how some people were upset about Ritchie Valens getting in when he seemed an unlikely candidate except for his place in cultural history. But if Ritchie Valens gets to be inducted then surely The Big Bopper should be as well especially after reading about his contributions to Rock N Roll. He wrote more hits than Buddy Holly and even came up with the idea for music videos. He was obviously influential to other artists such as Jerry Lee Lewis and Don Maclean and was part of the inspiration for the song American Pie. He is part of the phrase "the day the music died". Plus he has a great catalogue of songs not just one hit. He is important in Rock n Roll history. Had he not gotten sick with the flu and traded seats with Waylon Jennings we would never have experienced Outlaw Country from Waylon Jennings. The Big Bopper is long overdue for induction into the Rock Hall Of Fame!

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Posted by DexonJoype on Thursday, 03/31/2022 @ 23:58pm

Hello. The B-52's are one of the most influential bands of the past 50 years. My goal is to get the B-52's on the ballot for 2023. I would really like to get the spotlight on them to be considered and to get on the ballot. Any ideas on which petition site might be most aligned with this goal would be much appreciated!! Thank you!!

Posted by Kathy Weller on Wednesday, 04/6/2022 @ 18:57pm

I'm not sure of the genre restriction. It seems "rock and Roll" and sub genres now means "Pop" in recent years.
As a musician I find this troubling, there are genres and styles and awardees for a lot of these is different areas. But if this is the case you never would let me as a classical flute player into the rock and roll hall of fame. Why is this different for Rap, Country. … maybe you need to rename the organization "Music Hall of Fame".
Genres mean something. Styling tempo, instrumentation all mean something thing!
But seriously look at some of the people that are being let in. What did they do? Then look BBC at some who never let in? Why not Louis Armstrong and Joe Beck if Sind mindedness pop musicians are being let in to the rock and roll hall of fame.

Posted by Stacie on Wednesday, 04/6/2022 @ 22:13pm

Stacie

What are you talking about? If we're being anal about genre then The Doors wouldn't be eligible for the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. Art evolves, Kanye West and Lil Wayne have dubbed themselves rock stars, Louis Armstrong is already in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, induct Glenn Branca now.

But seriously the Rock Hall is focused on music of youth and is meant to evolve with the times. The original term rock n roll was basically meant to describe a mix of RnB and Western Swing so loose that the term has no fixed meaning and has been mainly gatekept by white people who decided they preferred hard rock and punk rather than funk and disco after all were born out of psychedelia.

Posted by mat r on Wednesday, 04/6/2022 @ 22:35pm

The Fall of the Rock & Roll Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaxab9c8YFo

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04/17/2022 @ 08:43am

Can you name more than 10 female artists in the history of rock and roll that have lasted longer, had more hits and
popularity than Connie Francis? No. The criteria for Hall is popularity, longevity and a notable contribution to music,
such as style, content, arrangements and also being a groundbreaker or pathfinder with influence on future artists.
Does she qualify yes, yes and yes. She was the first female rock and roll singer and considered the cornerstone of the genre. Hundreds of female singers have followed her and it is easy to see her pop style of rock in countless artists. Passed over for close to four decades is an injustice to music.

Posted by Bob and Nancy on Wednesday, 04/20/2022 @ 22:09pm

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2023 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. King Crimson
04. Mariah Carey
05. Backstreet Boys
06. Blink-182
07. Nickelback
08. Alice In Chains
09. Smashing Pumpkins

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2022 - Duran Duran * Eminem
2021 - Foo Fighters
2020 - Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019 - Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018 - The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017 - Yes * Journey
2016 - Chicago * Deep Purple
2015 - Green Day
2014 - Kiss * Nirvana
2013 - Rush

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 10:20am

What in the hell is wrong with the rock and roll panel who chooses the bands or artists for the hall of fame,I can't stand the ridiculous decisions that have been presented, you make me sick to read the chumps you try to induct, talent should be one criteria, you have turned something great into a joke, the whole lot of you picking these chumps should be tar and feathered

Posted by Frank English on Friday, 05/6/2022 @ 07:21am

NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Styx
02. Boston
03. Kansas
04. Thin Lizzy
05. Foreigner
06. Jethro Tull
07. The Troggs
08. The Turtles
09. Jan & Dean
10. Steppenwolf
11. The Spinners
12. King Crimson
13. The Monkees
14. Bad Company
15. Kool & The Gang
16. The Kingston Trio
17. REO Speedwagon
18. The Commodores
19. Herman's Hermits
20. Peter, Paul & Mary
21. Blood, Sweat & Tears
22. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
23. The Spencer Davis Group
24. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/12/2022 @ 09:25am

01. Styx
02. Toto
03. Boston
04. Kansas
05. Thin Lizzy
06. Foreigner
07. Jethro Tull
08. The Troggs
09. The Turtles
10. Jan & Dean
11. Steppenwolf
12. The Spinners
13. King Crimson
14. The Monkees
15. Bad Company
16. Kool & The Gang
17. The Kingston Trio
18. REO Speedwagon
19. The Commodores
20. Herman's Hermits
21. Peter, Paul & Mary
22. Blood, Sweat & Tears
23. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
24. The Spencer Davis Group
25. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/12/2022 @ 09:29am

NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Toto
02. Free
03. Chic
04. Boston
05. Kansas
06. Thin Lizzy
07. Foreigner
08. Jethro Tull
09. The Troggs
10. The Turtles
11. Jan & Dean
12. Steppenwolf
13. The Spinners
14. King Crimson
15. The Monkees
16. Bad Company
17. The Shangri-Las
18. The Marvelettes
19. Blue Oyster Cult
20. Kool & The Gang
21. The Kingston Trio
22. REO Speedwagon
23. The Commodores
24. Herman's Hermits
25. Peter, Paul & Mary
26. Blood, Sweat & Tears
27. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
28. The Spencer Davis Group
29. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/12/2022 @ 10:17am

NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Toto
02. Free
03. Chic
04. Boston
05. Kansas
06. Thin Lizzy
07. Foreigner
08. Jethro Tull
09. The Troggs
10. The Turtles
11. Jan & Dean
12. Steppenwolf
13. The Spinners
14. King Crimson
15. The Monkees
16. Bad Company
17. The Guess Who
18. The Shangri-Las
19. The Marvelettes
20. Blue Oyster Cult
21. Kool & The Gang
22. The Kingston Trio
23. REO Speedwagon
24. The Commodores
25. Herman's Hermits
26. Peter, Paul & Mary
27. Blood, Sweat & Tears
28. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
29. The Spencer Davis Group
30. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
31. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/12/2022 @ 12:15pm

NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Toto
02. Free
03. Chic
04. Boston
05. Kansas
06. Thin Lizzy
07. Foreigner
08. Jethro Tull
09. The Troggs
10. The Turtles
11. Jan & Dean
12. Motorhead
13. Iron Maiden
14. Steppenwolf
15. The Spinners
16. King Crimson
17. The Monkees
18. Bad Company
19. The Guess Who
20. The Shangri-Las
21. The Marvelettes
22. Three Dog Night
23. Blue Oyster Cult
24. Kool & The Gang
25. The Kingston Trio
26. REO Speedwagon
27. The Commodores
28. Herman's Hermits
29. The Pointer Sisters
30. Peter, Paul & Mary
31. Blood, Sweat & Tears
32. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
33. The Spencer Davis Group
34. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
35. Tommy James & The Shondells

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 09:36am

As a person that lived through the sixties and seventies, I get confused when The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame inducts non rock and roll entities. I therefore strongly agree that they should either induct rock and roll performers or change the name to Music Hall of Fame.

Posted by Marty Rogers on Monday, 05/16/2022 @ 09:35am

Marty it's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Rock and Roll. Not just "Rock".

Hip-hop and dance come from Rock and Roll just as much as Punk and Metal do.

Posted by rorschach on Monday, 05/16/2022 @ 11:46am

Marty Rogers

Rock N Roll literally is a substitute for RnB

Posted by mat r on Monday, 05/16/2022 @ 11:47am

Marty Rogers

I'm not joking Rock N Roll was coined by Freed as a way to get white audience to listen to RnB records. RnB is a massive genre that includes rock, rap, soul, disco, dance, funk, blues, metal, maybe not country, the blues, gospel, and jazz but those are direct influence on it.

Rock N Roll as you seem to know was born by often white radio stations pushing funk and soul out in favour of hard rock and pop rock in the late 60s and early 70s. Funk, which is heavily linked to psychedelia much like metal and country rock, eventually lead to the creation of disco and rap, both of which incorporated a lot from rock especially soft rock and punk.

Posted by mat r on Monday, 05/16/2022 @ 11:56am

Why is Derek.and the Dominoes not inducted? LAYLA alone stands on its own merit Eric Clapton Duane Allman, Bobby Whitlock (he so deserves this) look at you tube and see how many times that song is listened too. And all the others That entire album is a masterpiece passed down to 2 generations in my family

Posted by Kathi Fede on Friday, 06/10/2022 @ 03:40am

I'm sorry. I cannot wrap my brain around inducting a rapper into the ROCK and ROLL hall of Fame. If this committee is going to do this, then they need to change their name. Try the music hall of Fame. To me it's a sell out. Do you see any rock and roll groups inducted in a r&b or rap thing. Of course not. ( Except for hall and Oates) boy that went over well, didn't it.

Posted by Richard h on Tuesday, 06/14/2022 @ 11:12am

Richard h

Elvis and bill haley are in the rnb hall of fame and the rap hall is defunct for the most part (if it was a serious hall of fame kraftwerk and dylan would go in early on)

Posted by Mat r on Tuesday, 06/14/2022 @ 13:25pm

First of all in 1985 I collected over a 100 names for the hall to built in Cleveland and now I need a big favor please put Johnny Winter on the list for nomination in 2023 he is way over due. Thank you. Cleveland Rocks!!

Posted by Gary Marquard on Tuesday, 06/28/2022 @ 17:46pm

I think the popularity and accomplishments of a performer or band should be considered. I feel voters should try to put aside their personal bias for or against the performer(s) being nominated because there are worthy performers out there who should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who are overlooked.
For example Nickelback should be inducted. They have put in their 25 years. They have multiple Silver, Gold, Platinum and Diamond awards. In 2009, Billboard ranked them "the most successful rock group of the decade." In 2017, statistics showed Nickelback to be the 11th best-selling musical acts of all time; and they were the 2nd best selling "foreign" group in the US, behind only the Beatles. They have worked hard to get where they are and many, many people would love to see them inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Penny Boyer on Wednesday, 07/13/2022 @ 17:56pm

Where is Jethro Tull???? Sold out venues all through the 70s!!!! One of the most influential bands ever!!! Dolly Parton and not Jethro Tull? Have you listened to this band? Is this a rock n roll hall of fame?

Posted by Cate McGlynn on Saturday, 07/30/2022 @ 18:44pm

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2023 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. King Crimson
04. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
05. Mariah Carey
06. Alice In Chains
07. Backstreet Boys
08. Blink-182
09. Nickelback

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2022 - Duran Duran * Eminem
2021 - Foo Fighters
2020 - Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019 - Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018 - The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017 - Yes * Journey
2016 - Chicago * Deep Purple
2015 - Green Day
2014 - Kiss * Nirvana
2013 - Rush

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08/6/2022 @ 13:03pm

THE 2023 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME NOMINEES

01. Diana Ross
02. Ben E. King
03. Mary Wells
04. The Marvelettes
05. The Spinners
06. Chubby Checker
07. Dionne Warwick
08. Willie Nelson
09. The Kingston Trio
10. Judy Collins
11. Peter, Paul & Mary
12. The Spencer Davis Group
13. Jan & Dean
14. The Monkees
15. Jethro Tull
16. King Crimson
17. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
18. Blood, Sweat & Tears
19. Kool & The Gang
20. Commodores
21. Phil Collins
22. Foreigner
23. Soundgarden
24. Alice In Chains
25. Rage Against The Machine

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08/26/2022 @ 12:37pm

And somehow Boston is not a member yet? Help me understand!

Posted by Julie on Monday, 09/19/2022 @ 19:42pm

THIS IS WHAT A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE

Diana Ross
Jan & Dean
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Kool & The Gang
Commodores
Foreigner
Mariah Carey

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/17/2022 @ 09:07am

Three more induction ceremonies before 21st Century artists become eligible for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Let's see how much 50s-60s-70s backlog will be taken care of!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/16/2022 @ 10:37am

What is the problem here? Why hasn't a voice and an entertainer like Johnny Maestro been posthumously elected to enter your shrine of gifted entertainers.
A most recognizable voice like the voices of Sam Cooke, Steve Perry, Michael McDonald, David Clayton Thomas, eCeline Dion and of course, Elvis.
Johnny Maestro carried himself on and off stage with the always love of Doo Wop and later with the Brooklyn Bridge.
It is a mortal sin that a man who dedicated his life and his voice to making so many people fall in love with him, to not been given the honor of being enshrined in your select group of honored inductees.
Please correct thing omission and give Mr. Maestro the honor he deserves.

Posted by Ed Hommelsen on Sunday, 11/20/2022 @ 23:45pm

I guess I don't understand the definition of rock and roll. I do understand there are different eras of rock and roll. But some of the artist that are nominated and inducted are not rock at all. I just don't understand. I don't want to name any artist/bands because it will cause a stink. These are just my thoughts and opinion only. ✌️

Posted by Karen Stoll on Monday, 11/21/2022 @ 07:47am

Kathy Weller, I'm right there with you! I don't understand why the B-52's haven't gained entry, especially when I look at some of the people/groups that have gotten in over the past 5 years or so! I don't know what the exact criteria for getting into the HoF are (they say you only had to have had your first record come out 35 years ago), but it seems that it is devolving into a bit of a popularity contest. I'm hardly anti-Dolly Parton, as she's done MUCH for the industry (as well as other causes), but she herself had trepidations about going in the "Rock and Roll" HoF. But, I digress....

I'd put the B-52's up against many of the recent entrants! If anyone belongs, they certainly do! Terry Stewart, I truly hope you're listening!!

Posted by Mickey White on Friday, 11/25/2022 @ 18:00pm

Unlike the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, you can vote on who gets inducted into The Songwriters Hall Of Fame every year. If you are not a member of the music industry, you only qualify for Lifetime Membership, which will cost you a one-time payment of $1000.00. You will receive the ballot in your mailbox every year and you can attend the ceremonies. Here is the application to become a member:

https://www.songhall.org/join

Lifetime Membership Form

https://www.songhall.org/join/checkout/lifetime

The Old Way

https://www.songhall.org/forms/shof_membership.pdf

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/26/2022 @ 14:50pm

The Rock Hall should follow the Song Hall and offer lifetime membership to non-music industry people for $1000.00 to allow them to vote every year on who gets inducted.

https://www.songhall.org/join

https://www.songhall.org/join/checkout/lifetime

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/26/2022 @ 15:15pm

I am amazed that a serious rock and roll icon, Billy Idol isn't already in the Rocl and Roll Hall of Fame! How can we get him nominated?

Posted by Rebecca Dameron on Tuesday, 11/29/2022 @ 07:08am

The diversity of inductees shows just how inclusive and broad Rock & Roll can be. That being said, it is my belief that nominations and voting are too slow. It astounds me just how many groups/performers don't make the cut every time. It was asked if I can be unbiased and objective, my answer, always. However, it shouldn't take as long as it does for some to be inducted. Who decides what group or performer is nominated? Perhaps the fans should have a say in those nominations. Perhaps the committee should open debate to the fans as well. I my humble opinion, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame should be decided by all of us. This might lead to more nominees being inducted, yes, but it may also right some wrongs and so-called snubs that need to be addressed.

Posted by Cyn Matters on Friday, 12/2/2022 @ 06:08am

I would make the induction/nomination requirements:
Clear
Visible
Interpretable
TRANSPARENT
Acheivable
Influenced and Selected by other means than music industry executives
Noncryptic
Nonmonetized
This is where I would start...but it seems like the music industry has a way about things.
Follow the Money...

Posted by Gretel Milling on Monday, 12/5/2022 @ 16:00pm

Posted by Gretel Milling on Monday, 12/5/2022 @ 16:03pm

I really think Deftones should be welcomed into the rock and roll hall of fame. They have had such a massive influence on both nu-metal and shoegaze with some seriously incredible albums, such as Adrenaline, Around the Fur, White Pony, Saturday Night Wrist, and Koi no Yokan.

Posted by Ainsley on Wednesday, 12/14/2022 @ 18:12pm

2 words.......Kenny Loggins, movie hits, regular hits, collaborations with Michael McDonald, Jimmy Mesina and David Foster. He should have been inducted 15 years ago.

Posted by Scott Dotson on Sunday, 01/22/2023 @ 12:58pm

I honestly don't understand why Kenny Loggins has not been inducted yet. He is one of the best songwriters and singers there ever was, A wonderful performer. If anyone deserves to be in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, it is Kenny.

Posted by Margie Conway-White on Sunday, 01/22/2023 @ 14:49pm

I feel it's about time that LORETTA LYNN has been nominated to be inducted into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame. She has had a monumental impact on music and pop culture for over sixty years. She's the first female to be named Entertainer of The Year in many award presentations, the female with the most successful autobiography and movie (nominated for 7 Academy Awards and winning one for Best Actress), she has been inducted into more songwriters hall of fame than any other artist...male or female. The list of firsts goes on and on. Her signature song Coal Miner's Daughter was a record breaking recording and spawned movies, books, and a potential for a Broadway play.

Posted by Larry on Wednesday, 02/1/2023 @ 14:54pm

It only stands to reason that you can't get all of the artists people want nominated when you want them to be..but after all the years, all the bands, all the albums, all the hits..How the HELL is Ronnie James Dio not in the hall?

Posted by John on Wednesday, 02/1/2023 @ 21:05pm

They just need to change the name to the Popular Music Hall of Fame and get honest about it.
Although some rockers get included, there are many different generas represented in the Hall.

Posted by Mr. Harry S. Steinmetz on Friday, 02/3/2023 @ 17:30pm

Why has Grand Funk Railroad been left out if the HoF? They were one if the best bands of the 70s. And when they are nominated, the nomination MUST include Mark Farner...he was the heart and sole of the group.

Posted by Steve Reeves on Thursday, 02/9/2023 @ 13:20pm

Why aren't The Monkees in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
They played their own instruments and wrote all of the songs for the Headquarters album. Not to mention that they have been popular for the past 55 years.
Michael Nesmith helped create MTV, from the very beginning. He also wrote a ton of songs for the Monkees and for his own band.
They need to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Just Listen to the Band.

Posted by Cynthia Conn on Wednesday, 03/1/2023 @ 20:26pm

I was wondering if they have to be a group or could it be someone who was in the background playing in the studios and like capital records type deal

Posted by Rosemary on Friday, 03/3/2023 @ 20:17pm

Paul Revere and the Raiders should have been nominated to the Rock &Roll Hall of fame several years ago.
They are a talented music group with several hit songs.
There are several other groups from the 1960's that should be recognized, too!
Rock and Roll music from the 1960's was a tremendous transformation of music!

Posted by Angie Hoover on Sunday, 03/12/2023 @ 06:02am

Styx has been part of my life for over 40 years. I want them to be nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

Posted by Janice Johnson on Friday, 03/17/2023 @ 08:10am

Chubby checker seems to have been over looked. A rock and roll icon I think.

Posted by Norm Murray on Wednesday, 05/3/2023 @ 14:46pm

THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2024 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WHO HAVE OVER 4000 VOTES ON
FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. King Crimson
04. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
05. The Monkees
06. Iron Maiden
07. "Weird Al" Yankovic
08. Smashing Pumpkins
09. Dave Matthews Band
10. Alice In Chains
11. Soundgarden
12. The Smiths
13. Blink-182
14. Mariah Carey
15. Britney Spears
16. Backstreet Boys
17. Destiny's Child
18. Nickelback

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/4/2023 @ 09:54am

I just watched a YouTube video by Professor of Rock:

I was completely BLOWN AWAY by His commentary regarding HOF[Rock n Roll]

1)Foreigner still hasn't been elected!!!
2)Boston too!!
3)THE SMITHS!!!!

*They probably will NEVER be bc it's been so long now. Real Rock n Roll is completely dead. Yet HOF uses "Rock n Roll" but, elects [need to find out who these simps are stat! They need to go!] far less worthy talent to the HOF...What a complete joke! **There are other very talented people who I didn't mention that should be in there too...too many to list sheesh!

The quality of music being produced over the last 20+ years slowly degraded. I hope people will disregard the HOF & see it as a complete JOKE that it is. I want to know who's "pulling the strings" behind the scenes like in the Wizard of OZ ...an incompetent fool(s)

Posted by Wake up & smell the coffee on Monday, 05/22/2023 @ 08:40am

My brother, Tim. Is a luthier. He has done work for folks such as Fleetwood Mac, Rush, The Doobie Brothers, Bob Seger, Grand Funk, Kid Rock and many others. All of his guitars are hand made, including his own custom made pickups.I just felt that he's worth checking out. He has pictures of his guitars and people he did work for. He'll be 80 in Dec. But still is active. He deserves the honor. Just ask the guys I mentioned, and check out "The purple dragon" article.

Posted by Marc Jagmin on Sunday, 06/11/2023 @ 15:31pm

Why hasn't Connie Francis made it into the rock 'n' roll Hall of Fame? I grew up, listening to her music along with many others. And she was amazing. I just want to know why she's not in there. She deserves to be. I still listen to her music.

Posted by Barbara on Monday, 08/7/2023 @ 13:02pm

Anyone who has not seen Duran Duran live needs to! They absolutely rock! Simon and rest of the band and the wonderful back-up singers put on quite a show and deliver exactly what u want, plus more!

Posted by Heather on Monday, 09/11/2023 @ 16:47pm

As I type this the GRAMMY WINNING MANHATTANS are performing in LAS VEGAS. They have ACTIVELY performing over SIXTY YEARS. All over the world. One of their biggest hits was SHINNING STAR which earned them a GRAMMY. Their legions of fans all over the world wait to see them inducted into the RRHOF every year. Please make this happen 2024. They are so deserving of this distinguished honor. Thank You In Advance
Mary Summers

Posted by Mary Summers on Saturday, 11/4/2023 @ 18:58pm

Let's not ever look….
I nominate:
Alex Ligertwood:
Also known as, Alexander John "Alex" Ligertwood is a Scottish singer, guitarist and drummer. He is best known as the lead vocalist of Santana (1979-1985, 1987, 1989–1991, 1992–1994). He is credited on songs by Santana, including "All I Ever Wanted", "You Know That I Love You", "Winning" and "Hold On". He also performed with The Senate (1960s), The Jeff Beck Group (1970) and Brian Auger's Oblivion Express (1971–72 and 2013–present). He also appeared with John Cipollina and friends (1988), the Average White Band (1989) and David Sancious.

Ligertwood sang lead vocals on the song "Crank It Up" by The Dixie Dregs, from their albumIndustry Standard (1982), as well as contributing the lead vocal on the song "Double Bad" from Jeff Lorber's album In the Heat of the Night (1984).

During 2000 he toured with World Classic Rockers. More recently he sang on a version of the Scorpions song "Is There Anybody There" which appeared on drummer Herman Rarebell's solo album Acoustic Fever (2013). In 2014, Ligertwood's vocals were featured on tracks by El Chicano and in the same year he toured in Japan and Europe with Brian Auger and the Oblivion Express.

Posted by Mary Fetterly on Saturday, 11/18/2023 @ 20:09pm

I also want to add, Alex, for over 16 years with Carlos Santana, Alex Ligertwood provided his unique sound and interpretation on 12 albums. He earned Gold Records for four of those Santana efforts, and scored Top 40 hits with six albums and/or singles.

Album, released in 2019, Outside the Box is dynamic!!

Posted by Mary Fetterly on Saturday, 11/18/2023 @ 20:32pm

I would like to see ICE T get nominated. When I see warning labels on records I think back to ICE T on Oprah explaining that's the language on the street. It isn't for them to decide it's how he communicates with their audience you don't live there. Then listen to his music again and it brings you to the hood without leaving in a body bag. ICE T starts a heavy metal band now he tells of moving into the white neighborhood and upsets the world with Cop Killer an idea he gets from hearing the Talking Heads Psycho killer and witnessing a life time of police brutality. Today while other artists of his time are living of their oldies because they believe you'll only lose money by putting new music out. ICE continues to crank out Body Count albums each better than the last and just released Crime Stories with some killer tracks an OG of the business could only do. This isn't about who's already in I'm sure he congratulates every artist already in this is about getting there by putting in the work. From losing both parents and moving to the west coast to an aunt that could care less I'd say he's done pretty good for himself as a Hip Hop Heavy Metal Artist, Actor, Author and producer. ICE T DESERVES A SHOT!

Posted by Bill S. on Thursday, 02/15/2024 @ 10:54am

The criteria they use seems to level the playing field and not make it difficult for those who have had possibly shorter careers but a huge influence. Since music is subjective it means it's opinions that matter. Since opinions are just opinions some may not agree with them but they are legitimate. Just because a favorite of mine, Cher, just received her first nomination in a 7 decade career doesn't diminish those who made it in with shorter careers. With this being said, how about Sonny and Cher?? This year I hope they vote Cher in as it is long overdue and they have a shortage of women being inducted!

Posted by Mike Birr on Thursday, 02/22/2024 @ 15:43pm

Styx should have been nominated decades ago! Something is definitely wrong with the nomination process!

Posted by Donna Schwartz on Sunday, 03/10/2024 @ 09:01am

I really don't get what's the meaning of letting in acts who didn't do anything important in rock & roll, I mean what's the actual purpose behind this. Sure they might have million albums sold, multiple hit records & huge fanbases, yet that however doesn't make a true Hall of Famer. The objectivity point of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is to honor artists who are considered as influencers, innovators & groundbreakers aka those who literally changed the entire course of RNR. It's never there for those who only have popularity as it doesn't indicate more.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/9/2024 @ 17:57pm

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2025 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. The Monkees
04. Britney Spears
05. Mariah Carey
06. Alice In Chains
07. Backstreet Boys
08. Blink-182
09. Nickelback

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2024 - Nothing!
2023 - Nothing!
2022 - Duran Duran * Eminem
2021 - Foo Fighters
2020 - Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019 - Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018 - The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017 - Yes * Journey
2016 - Chicago * Deep Purple
2015 - Green Day
2014 - Kiss * Nirvana
2013 - Rush

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/25/2024 @ 04:50am

It's always not unknown when it comes to the most ridiculous RRHOF snubs meaning the committee needs to correct those omissions sooner or later. In retrospect, there's deserving artists who are already inducted based on meeting the criteria of influence, innovation, impact & significance regardless of genres & instruments, however there's others who also got in because of various things that has nothing to do with said criteria. So with said, here's the list of the most marginal RRHOF inductees of all time.

Journey - Very popular with memorable songs being covered by everyone yet didn't even inspire them to write their own material.

Foreigner - I kinda knew Foreigner would be in following their first nomination, that doesn't mean they're considered as true Hall of Famers regardless how much sales they had.

Steve Miller - Didn't want to be inducted besides lacking influence, innovation & originality.

Peter Frampton - PF could've easily been left off if he got in through Musical Excellence since he only had one remarkable album.

Darlene Love - DL is regarded as one of most important singers of all time, although she lacked the induction criteria due to her being a backup singer most of the time.

The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - I can't find anything remarkable about them other than they have associated with the Chicago blues scene, they're good but nowhere near as the ones that came to define or own the decades.

The Moody Blues - Good band however they're nowhere near as the best like Pink Floyd due to most people knowing them for their one remarkable album & single, no doubt they were considered as one of the pioneers of Prog Rock & have influenced past Hall of Famers like Deep Purple, Yes, Genesis & ELO yet still doesn't change anything.

The Zombies - They're one of the most unimportant bands during the 60's, they have this one album & a few hit singles people pretty much know by & they're nowhere near the best of such bands like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Velvet Underground & The Kinks based on influence, innovation & popularity. But they do have memorable hits & influenced artists like Tom Petty.

The Hollies - Don't get why The Hollies were even nominated as they didn't changed anything like The Beatles & Rolling Stones, maybe it's because the Hall wanted all members of CSNY to be inducted twice. That's a ridiculous thing to do but doesn't mean the band wasn't good.

The Dave Clark Five - The DC5 were the second biggest band in the british invasion after The Beatles in terms of popularity alone, however when it comes to overall seismic impact it's almost as marginal. What's hurting them is their discography isn't as historically remarkable outside of few hits. I don't mind them being inducted but they're borderline.

Bon Jovi - Great band that had a lot of popularity however they're nowhere near as the best of the creme of the crop: The Beatles, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, The Stones & others based of "overall influence", yet they have sales so that's good obviously I guess.....NOT!

Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - Really well - known band but really don't stand out like the other bands that came to define the 80's & beyond. Joan should have been inducted with The Runways instead.

Stevie Nicks - Ngl, the reason why Stevie Nicks even got inducted as a solo artist is because the Hall wanted to have women being part of the "multiple inductee" club. That's great & all, but why her & not Diana Ross since her career is more remarkable. Plus Tina Turner should've been the first woman to receive that rare award, after all she's the queen of R&R.

Carly Simon - The reason why Simon got inducted is because the Hall wanted another Carole King moment like in 2021, nothing against CS but her discography didn't stood the test of time & her artistic influence is somewhat marginal.

Laura Nyro - LN's music & songwriting received attention when others covered her songs, she should've been a side category inductee instead of performer based on it.

Percy Sledge - A one hit wonder with zero seismic impact. In the grand scheme of things, Percy Sledge was an artist who's not even on the caliber of James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder & others.

Lloyd Price - Not one of the biggest artists in soul music, Lloyd Price also is one of the most under appreciated acts in R&B. Sure his song Lawdy, Miss Cawdy was one of the first tunes to achieve crossover success with mainstream audiences & would go on to chart more hits in the 60's but he doesn't have a remarkable discography outside of that one song.

Gene Pitney - Pitney had a lot of hits during his career however I can't find anything that's remotely groundbreaking, innovative & influential although he wrote hits for other honorees such as Ricky Nelson.

The Lovin Spoonful - Nothing groundbreaking, innovative, influential & remarkable about The Lovin Spoonful & their work. I don't even know why they're even nominated in the first place since they didn't changed anything.

Look I have nothing against these artists & they had their moments in the sun, yet they didn't changed anything related to the whole development of rock & roll as an legitimate art form while their work has rarely been less remembered by experts & historians!

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 05/26/2024 @ 18:20pm

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