PREDICTION FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Ben E. King
Mary Wells
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
The Shangri-Las
Chubby Checker
Harry Belafonte
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick
Willie Nelson
Judy Collins
Phil Collins
Steve Winwood
The Kingston Trio
Peter, Paul & Mary
The Spencer Davis Group
Jan & Dean
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
Carly Simon
Foreigner
Joy Division / New Order

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 19:50pm

I need The B52's to be nominated and inducted ASAP

Posted by Emma on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 19:50pm

Most Likely picks: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Dionne Warwick, Iron Maiden, Fela Kuti, Soundgarden, Rage Against the Machine

Probably will happen picks: Joy Division/New Order, Chaka Khan and/or Rufus, Duran Duran, J.Geils Band, Mötley Crüe

Never happening in a million years picks: Blur, Slade

Posted by Raichu on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 20:48pm

Predictions

Eminem
Cher
The Smiths
The B-52s
Mariah Carey
Soundgarden
OutKast
Duran Duran
Dionne Warwick
Rage Against the Machine
Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus)
Carly Simon
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Kool and The Gang

Possible inductees out of my predictions.

Carly Simon
Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
Mariah Carey
OutKast
Pat Benatar

Early/genre influence:

Big Mama Thornton
MC5
The Carter Family

Musical Excellence:

Gram Parsons
The J.B's
The Meters

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 20:57pm

"Weird" Al Yankovic
Phil Collins
Huey Lewis and the News
Styx
Meatloaf
ELP
The Monkees
Warren Zevon
Pat Benetar

Posted by @InductWeirdAl on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 23:20pm

Possible predictions for 2022 class.

Nominees:

Mary J. Blige - Now I anticipated that Blige would be inducted by next year since the Hall decides to evolve every year but I might not see her second nomination by that point so we'll see. .

Pat Benatar - I get why people wanted Benatar inducted but her work alone always hadn't stood the test of time & with that said, I might see her nominated again alongside her husband Neil Giraldo.

Kate Bush - I think what's holding her back is basically she's doesn't have a lot of success in America (the Hall has a tendency to induct artists whom are successful in the U.S) & she's more of it in the U.K. With that said, I don't see her being nominated again unfortunately.

Duran Duran - They defined MTV generation & when it comes to induction chances, I think it's 100% possibility that they will be shoo - ins for 2022 inductions.

Eminem - He's one the most important figures in music. He's a sure thing for induction by next year.

Iron Maiden - Despite their ambivalence towards the Hall, Maiden are very worthy of induction & they'll have my vote but I'll be a crime if they do get inducted before such likes as Judas Priest & Motorhead.

Joy Division/New Order - These acts inspired a lot of young teenagers to form 90s alternative rock bands & been a cultural phenomenon for the ones that influence them. With recent inductions of The Cure & Depeche Mode. They definitely need to be inducted into the RRHOF.

Judas Priest - Heavy Metal is having a really hard time with the institutions like the RRHOF & it took bands like Black Sabbath & Deep Purple a long time to get in & Judas Priest has been nominated already twice, still not in & their third nomination will might be a charm for them sooner or later.

King Crimson - Prog Rock like Heavy Metal is having a hard time with the RRHOF (although Yes & Moody Blues were recently got in) & King Crimson is one of them getting shut out of it. They were influential to not just fellow prog bands but also contemporary artists as well. Robert Fripp is one of the most innovative guitarists of the 20th century. They definitely deserves to be in the RRHOF!

Fela Kuti - This one is the most shocking nomination that I've seen in the Hall's history, despite having influence he's the most obscured artist in the bunch. With that said, I could see him inducted under "Musical Influence".

New York Dolls - Their influence is big as other honorees (David Bowie, The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, T. Rex & Roxy Music) & with a documentary about them coming up, I think it's going to push their chances of induction even though they were nominated twice.

Diana Ross - Tina Turner & Carole King inducted as solo artists, I think Ross should be the next one after them since she had a successful career as one after The Supremes.

Smashing Pumpkins - Foo Fighters are officially the FYE inductees so I think Smashing Pumpkins should be considered for nomination as they're one of 90's bands to leave a bigger legacy with their first 3 albums & rest of their work is remarkable at times.

Soundgarden - Nirvana & Pearl Jam brought grunge into mainstream but Soundgarden came to defined it before these bands so there wouldn't be grunge if it weren't for them. They were nominated once but they'll likely receive a second one at some point.

Thin Lizzy - They were known for their twin lead guitar attack & it later refined & popularised by Judas Priest, Iron Maiden & Def Leppard. They brandished a unique style of showmanship & songwriting in bandleader Phil Lynott & influenced bands like Metallica & Alice in Chains. They are definitely deserving of induction.

Warren Zevon - Maybe he''ll get in as a peformer or the other way around. He's one of the biggest collaborators in music & influence a number of artists.

Class of 2022 inductees:
Performer Category:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
New York Dolls
Diana Ross
The Smashing Pumpkins
If 7
Judas Priest

Musical Influence:
Slade
Fela Kuti
Big Mama Thornton

Musical Excellence:
King Crimson
Chaka Khan
Warren Zevon

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 00:18am

RETURNING NOMINEES
1. Dionne Warwick
2. The Spinners
3. Chaka Khan, w/ or w/o Rufus
4. Pat Benatar
5. Judas Priest
6. Soundgarden
7. Eric B & Rakim
8. Rage Against the Machine

NEW NOMINEES
9. Eminem
10. Mariah Carey
11. Carly Simon
12. Joy Division/New Order
13. Smashing Pumpkins
14. Duran Duran
15. The B-52's
16. Toots & The Maytals

INDUCTEES
1. Eminem
2. Mariah Carey
3. Pat Benatar
4. Smashing Pumpkins
5. Duran Duran
6. Dionne Warwick

INFLUENCE
1. Big Mama Thornton
2. MC5

MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
1. Chaka Khan
2. Carol Kaye

Posted by RG on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 11:20am

My end of the year predictions:

The 60s:
Dionne Warwick

The 70s:
New York Dolls
Diana Ross
Sparks
The Spinners

The 80s:
Pat Benatar
Iron Maiden
Husker Du
Chaka Khan
Eurythmics
Kool and the Gang

The 90s:
Soundgarden
The Smashing Pumpkins

All-Generational:
Fiona Apple

The 2000s:
Eminem

The Class:
Eminem
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
The Smashing Pumpkins
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick

Musical Influence:
Joe Tex
Big Mama Thornton
MC5

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Carol Kaye
Ashford and Simpson

AE award:
Rick Rubin

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 13:51pm

Nick Drake. I first heard this amazing music one late night driving home from NYC on one night in 1976 on WNEW FM . To this day almost 50 yrs later I can still listen to his music and get the same goose bumps and mind bumps . His music was just " other worldly" .
PLEASE consider him for inducttion " nuff said"

Posted by Arthur Dekko on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:05pm

Plebeian,

What about your 12 Days of Prediction-Mas? The other page is still accesable, and you only have a few days left.

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:11pm

Follower,

Moving it to this page for all to see. Thankfully, I copied all of my profiles so you don't have to worry.

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:23pm

HOW WOULD YOU RANK THEM?

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME,

RANKED FROM MOST LIKELY TO LEAST LIKELY TO BE INDUCTED:

01. Dionne Warwick
02. Willie Nelson
03. Harry Belafonte
04. Waylon Jennings
05. Lionel Richie (The Commodores)
06. Kenny Loggins (Loggins And Messina)
07. Cyndi Lauper
08. Huey Lewis And The News
09. The Pointer Sisters
10. Sheila E. (Sidemen; Musical Excellence)
11. Bob Geldof (Non-Performers Category; Lifetime Achievement)
12. Al Jarreau
13. James Ingram
14. Bette Midler
15. Kenny Rogers (The First Edition)
16. Kim Carnes
17. Jeffrey Osbourne (L.T.D.)
18. Randy Jackson (Sidemen Category)
19. LaToya Jackson
20. Dan Aykroyd (The Blues Brothers)

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA WHO ARE IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Quincy Jones
02. Ray Charles
03. Smokey Robinson
04. Stevie Wonder
05. Diana Ross
06. Michael Jackson
07. Marlon Jackson
08. Tito Jackson
09. Jackie Jackson
10. Tina Turner
11. Bob Dylan
12. Paul Simon
13. Bruce Springsteen
14. Billy Joel
15. Lindsey Buckingham
16. Daryl Hall
17. John Oates
18. Steve Perry

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA INDUCTED TWICE INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1990; 2001 - Paul Simon (Simon and Garfunkel)
02. 1991; 2021 - Tina Turner (Ike and Tina Turner)
03. 1997; 2001 - Michael Jackson (The Jackson Five)

Diana Ross will be the last member of USA For Africa to get a second induction.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:30pm

My Nominee Predictions:

Bad Brains
Pat Benatar
Daft Punk
Devo
Duran Duran
Eminem
Eurythmics
Foreigner
Judas Priest
Pixies
Diana Ross
Rufus Featuring Chaka Khan
Salt-N-Pepa
Soundgarden
Weezer
Warren Zevon

My Class Prediction:

Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
Foreigner
Diana Ross
Warren Zevon

Posted by Zack F on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 18:00pm

Pat Benatar
Devo
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Joe Cocker
Anthrax
Dio
Motley Crue
Chubby Checker
Soundgarden
Lou Rawls
Huey Lewis and the News
Stray Cats
KC and the Sunshine Band
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Sugarhill Gang
Coolio
Steve Winwood
Robert Palmer
Blood, Sweat, and Tears

Posted by Garrus on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 20:30pm

10 out of 12! Almost there!

10. Motörhead

Origin: London, England

Band Members: Lemmy*,
Phil Campbell, Mikkey Dee, "Fast" Eddie Clarke*, Phil "Philthy Animal" Taylor*, Wurzel*

Defining Songs:
1. Overkill (1979)
2. Ace of Spades (1980)
3. Iron Fist (1982)
4. Eat The Rich (1987)
5. The Game (2002)
Defining Albums:
1. Overkill (1979)
2. Ace of Spades (1980)
3. No Sleep Til' Hammersmith (1981)

Previously Considered: Nominated in 2020

Most Culturally Defining Moment: Lemmy. Enough said.

Influences: Sex Pistols, Deep Purple, MC5

The Legacy: Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pantera

Decade: All-Generational

Full of motor oil and cheap beer, Motörhead was a heavy metal that was nothing, but being fast and tough. The rock god Lemmy was no ordinary figure, being able to churn out music like no tomorrow and have a tendency to become badass. Motörhead never were ones for glory, but that didn't stop every Heavy Metal band in existence to pay respects to them. Lemmy may be dead, but his mythical presence lives on…. Louie Louie oh baby! Do they have a chance!

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 21:01pm

Forgot to add band*

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 21:02pm

Hey Guys,

According to Induction Ceremony director Joel Gallen on the latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast, The 2022 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony will return to Los Angeles and will be held in LA in early November of 2022.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 10:18am

Richie,

I think it's a perfect location for the ceremony since it always being held in NYC or Cleveland. With that i might see RATM finally being inducted next year since they're from LA. Maybe Devo too, i think since some of them are living there as of today even though they're from Akron, Ohio.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 18:12pm

11 down, 1 more to go!

11. Jane's Addiction

Origin: Los Angeles, California

Band Members: Perry Farrell, Eric Avery, Stephen Perkins, Dave Navarro

Defining Songs:
1. Mountain Song (1988)
2. Jane Says (1988)
3. Been Caught Stealing (1990)
4. Stop (1990)
5. Just Because (2003)
Defining Albums:
1. Nothing Shocking (1988)
2. Ritual De Habitual (1990)

Previously Considered?: Nominated in 2017

Most Culturally Defining moment: Perry Farrell forms the annual Lollapalooza concert festival (1991-)

Influences: Jimi Hendrix, Rush,
The Cure

The Legacy: Radiohead, The Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against The Machine

Decade: Late 80s-Early 90s

In a way, Jane's Addiction was a band that we're ahead of their time. Bringing a precursor to the 90s rock scene, they brought sounds of provocative imagery and hybrids of rock like no other. Perry Farrell remains a creative frontman and force in rock and Dave Navarro is one hell of a tattoo guitarist. With the formation of Lollapolooza, the band revolutionized the concert festival scene for all to enjoy. Jane Says a lot, but it seems the Hall wants to hear more.

Coming Up…

My Name Is..
My Name Is..
My Name Is..

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 21:36pm

I am moving over to this page. Here is my list again
Predictions for 2022 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Nominees
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Mary J. Blige
Duran Duran
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Joy Division/ New Order
Dave Matthews Band
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick

Early Influence
Bing Crosby
Charlie Parker
Big Mama Thornton
Dionne Warwick
I'm hesitant on Early influence in the Rock era. The original definition is pre Rock musicians much like Charlie Parker. The ones before a lot of the Inductees were born

Music Excellence

Chaka Khan
King Crimson
Warren Zevon

I'm still mulling this category over

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 05:11am

I like a lot of your predictions, particularly Greg F's and Jordan's.

Mine (right now) are:

Cher
The Monkees
Eminem
Sade
Chaka Khan
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Outkast
Iron Maiden
Soundgarden
Alanis Morrisette
Rage Against the Machine
Kate Bush
The B-52s

Seems like the right balance of previous nominees and first timers and keeps the MTV-ish character of the new management

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 09:06am

Pat Benatar
Eminem
Judas Priest
Kate Bush
Carly Simon
The B-52's
Diana Ross
Thin Lizzy
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Duran Duran
Motörhead
Rage Against the Machine
New York Dolls
Devo
Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
Jethro Tull
Eurythmics
Outkast
Beck

If there's a few less than 20 I probably take out Jethro Tull, Eurythmics and Beck

Posted by Jay on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 09:43am

02pm

Richie, Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 12, 2021- There are only 19 days left in 2021. In approximately 45 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in exactly 53 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Rush.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. See Rush.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming.

Please let me think about the other 9.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 10:37am

Adding Kool and The Gang, The Monkees, The Spinners, Sparks, and Motörhead to my predictions

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Posted by Raichu on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 12:01pm

My serious predictions fail year after year, so I'll only write down my wishlist, a little name-dropping just for fun.

The B-52's
Eurythmics
Pixies
Willie Nelson
Gram Parsons
The Runaways
Motörhead
Dionne Warwick
Kate Bush
Wu-Tang Clan
Eminem
New York Dolls
PJ Harvey
Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Esther Phillips
Connie Francis

Here are some recommendations for the other categories:

Influences:
Patsy Cline
The Carter Family
Son House
Big Mama Thornton
Blind Willie McTell
The Weavers
Lightnin' Hopkins
Cab Calloway
Django Reinhardt
Roy Brown
Sarah Vaughan
John Coltrane
Harry Belafonte
Dizzy Gillespie
Charlie Parker
Ella Fitzgerald
Townes Van Zandt

That list could go on and on...

Musical Excellence:
Mickey "Guitar" Baker & Sylvia Robinson
Barrett Strong
Brian Eno
Dr. Dre
Jackie Brenston
The guitar gods, like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen or Rory Gallagher
Sheila E.
Nicky Hopkins
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The rest of the Wrecking Crew, especially Carol Kaye, Glen Campbell, Larry Knechtel, Tommy Tedesco, Jim Gordon, Jim Keltner, Don Randi, Plas Johnson, Al Casey, Bill Pitman, Chuck Berghofer, Ray Pohlman, Al De Lory,...

Industry:
Rick Rubin
Alan Lomax
Bernie Taupin
Tony Visconti
Giorgio Moroder

Posted by MichaelEU on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 12:48pm

Do we think the Carpenters have any chance of consideration anytime soon?

Posted by Brasssection on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 13:08pm

Just posting this since it was near the end of the 2021 inductee page. It's the Kiosk results. This could factor into your predictions. It's how DMB and Pat & Neil got nominated anyway.

1. Motley Crue
2. Iron Maiden
3. Pat Benatar
4. Blink-182
5. Dave Matthews Band
6. Dolly Parton
7. Weezer
8. Cher
9. Styx
10. Boston
11. "Weird Al" Yankovic
12. Snoop Dogg
13. Rage Against The Machine
14. Jimmy Buffett
15. Tool
16. Jethro Tull
17. Alice In Chains
18. Ozzy Osbourne (Solo)
19. Duran Duran
20. Phish
21. Smashing Pumpkins
22. REO Speedwagon
23. Soundgarden
24. Selena
25. Foreigner
26. The Monkees
27. The Smiths
28. Phil Collins (Solo)
29. Sublime
30. Korn
31. Garth Brooks
32. Freddie Mercury (Solo)
33. Judas Priest
34. OutKast
35. Huey Lewis & The News
36. Jim Croce
37. Meat Loaf
38. Daft Punk
39. Backstreet Boys
40. Alanis Morissette
41. Wu-Tang Clan
42. The Cranberries
43. Bad Company
44. Poison
45. Pantera
46. Eminem
47. John Prine
48. Oasis
49. Three Dog Night
50. Pixies
51. Kansas
52. Kid Rock
53. Rick Astley
54. Goo Goo Dolls
55. Barry Manilow
56. Cyndi Lauper
57. Nas
58. Joe Cocker
59. George Michael
60. Willie Nelson
61. Warren Zevon
62. DMX
63. Megadeth
64. Peter Frampton
65. New Kids On The Block
66. Slayer
67. Ted Nugent
68. Blue Oyster Cult
69. Toto
70. Billy Idol
71. Mariah Carey
72. Little Feat
73. Motorhead
74. Devo
75. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
76. Grand Funk Railroad
77. The Guess Who
78. No Doubt
79. Mary J. Blige
80. Barenaked Ladies
81. Eurythmics
82. INXS
83. Luther Vandross
84. The B-52's
85. Bryan Adams
86. The Offspring
87. King Crimson
88. Joy Division
89. Lenny Kravitz
90. Beck
91. Stone Temple Pilots
92. Sammy Hagar
93. Dr. Dre (Solo)
94. New Edition
95. Cake
96. The Replacements
97. Tears For Fears
98. They Might Be Giants
99. Wilco
100. A Tribe Called Quest


Also take into consideration that every class since 2013 has had at least one act with a Diamond album.

Posted by Follower on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 15:13pm

This is it guys. The final day. It has been a blessed time to talk about snubs. I hope this was fun for all of you. Now, onto the final one!

12. Eminem (Marshall Mathers) (1972-)

Origin: St. Joseph, Missouri

Defining Songs:
1. My Name Is (1999)
2. The Real Slim Shady (2000)
3. Stan (2000)
4. Lose Yourself (2002)
5. Without Me (2002)
Defining Albums:
1. The Slim Shady LP (1999)
2. The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
3. The Eminem Show (2002)
4. Recovery (2010)
5. The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (2013)

Most Culturally Defining Moment:
Too many to count.

Influences: Aerosmith, Run-D.M.C, Dr.Dre

The Legacy: Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar, Lana Del Ray

Decade: 2000s

The real Slim Shady, B-Rabbit, Stan man himself, Eminem. The most decade-defining rapper and dissing musician of the 2000s, MM has broken genre-barriers and racial ones into becoming like no other. He remains a controversial figure of course, however, people aren't perfect and in a way he seems to change for the better. We all regret the past, but we all learn from it to become a better person. In retrospect, dude had obstacles and struggles to become revered and matured as he is now. Eminem still remains a true artist to his word and has created his place in the world of music even till this day.

This was fun! Again! Thoughts?

1. The Replacements
2. Devo
3. Harry Nilsson
4. Rage Against The Machine
5. Soundgarden
6. The Smiths
7. New York Dolls
8. Gram Parsons
9. Warren Zevon
10. Motörhead
11. Jane's Addiction
12. Eminem

Posted by Plebeian on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 19:35pm

Plebian, will be gobsmacked if Eminem is not elected next year. But then I said same thing about OutKast...

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 07:14am

KING DEC 2021 Quick 20 Nominations For 2022.
1. Duran Duran
2. Scorpions
3. Pat Benatar
4. Kool & The Gang
5. Eminem
6. Bryan Adams
7. Soundgarden
8. The Eurythmics
9. Lenny Kravitz
10. Rage Against The Machine
11. Bad Company
12. Diana Ross
13. Iron Maiden
14. Smashing Pumpkins
15. Billy Idol
16. Foreigner
17. Chaka Khan
18. The Spinners
19. Emmylou Harris/Gram Parsons
20. Judas Priest

Cool Awards- Early Influence (3)
1. Link Wray
2. MC5
3. The Sonics
Musical Excellence (3)
1. Chaka Khan if she falls short in the regular voting.
2. Los Lobos
3. Procol Harum

I think a couple Wild Cards are The Monkees since Nesmith's death and there have been plenty of people wanting The Monkees inducted. The Wrecking Crew being inducted would be a creative way to Induct Carol Kaye, Glen Campbell, and Larry Knechtel etc. This backlog of Heavy Metal is bothersome as Iron Maiden & Judas Priest should be inducted. Plus, Motley Crue has still not been enshrined. I would like to see The Guess Who & The Grass Roots inducted but not sure if they could be inducted on the 15 or 16 artist ballot. They might need a Special Award.
KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 12:33pm

My gut is saying 17 names. Number listed next to the artist is where they ranked in all-time Spotify plays when I checked out the list a little over a week ago.

Eminem (#8)
Mariah Carey (#173)
Weezer (#440)
OutKast (#488)
The Smiths (#517)
Rage Against The Machine (#527)
Smashing Pumpkins (#621)
Motley Crue (#691)
Cyndi Lauper (#802)
Cher (#844)
Mary J Blige (#852)
Eurythmics (#935) (+ Annie Lennox at #632)
Duran Duran (#944)
Diana Ross
Chaka Khan
Bad Company
Warren Zevon

Seven female fronted acts plus a female bassist in Smashing Pumpkins. Plenty of acts featuring people of color. Bad Company/Warren Zevon feel like acts that could get in immediately if they ever got on the ballot, so perhaps they're given a shot here.

This ballot would be INCREDIBLY competitive. Nobody is a sure thing. Don't think Smiths, Rage, Mary or Chaka have a shot though.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 14:55pm

I'm very surprised that nobody has brought up Celine Dion in the conversation for this year yet, I've heard and read that she has had some serious health issues in the past few months with her postponing her new Vegas residency at Resorts World due to having severe and persistent muscle spasms in her legs and feet and that she's paralyzed from the COVID-19 vaccine and can't get out of bed, or walk, or move and she's also very weak and has lost a lot of weight, so I was just wondering that if her health issues would get her a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year, I know that she's not a critical favorite by any means, but the Hall has been embracing populist acts since 2013 and Celine fits the populist act bill perfectly, Do you guys think that Celine could get a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year based on the populist trend and also her recent health issues?.

Posted by countrystarrichie@hotmail.com on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 16:31pm

My list.
Motley Crue
The Carpenters
The Monkees
Salt n Peppa
Phil Collins
Cher
Bryan Adams
Foreigner
Rick Rubin.

Posted by William Ott on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 16:41pm

I'm very surprised that nobody has brought up Celine Dion in the conversation for this year yet, I've heard and read that she has had some serious health issues in the past few months with her postponing her new Vegas residency at Resorts World due to having severe and persistent muscle spasms in her legs and feet and that she's paralyzed from the COVID-19 vaccine and she can't get out of bed or walk or move and that she's also very weak and has lost a lot of weight, so I was just wondering that if her health issues would get her a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year, I know that she's not a critical favorite by any means, but the Hall has embracing populist acts since 2013 and Celine fits the populist act bill perfectly, Do you guys think that Celine could get a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year based on the populist trend and also her recent health issues?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 16:44pm

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Mr. XFL on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 21:15pm

richie,
I think the reason nobody has brought up Celine Dion for this year yet is there is also a backlog of pop Performers to be nominated soon that are Pop are Mariah Carey, Cher, Diana Ross, Cyndi Lauper, Gloria Estefan, George Michael, Phil Collins. These have all come up in the conversation. Critics have been mostly favorable with these. I would welcome these first. And these take priority. What do you think?

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 04:10am

Mariah Carey
The Guess Who
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Carpenters
Eric B. & Rakim
Afrika Bambaataa
Pixies

Posted by chuvakla on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:01am

Mariah Carey
The Guess Who
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Carpenters
Eric B. & Rakim
Afrika Bambaataa
Pixies

Posted by chuvakla on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:01am

Plebeian,

Nicely done with your twelve days series, The last three all seem pretty worthy of enshrinement.

Motorhead is, of course, a seminal act in the development and evolution of metal, but they may have to wait until more populist acts like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden get in. We all know metal has a tough time getting respect, so this may take awhile. They deserve to get in though.

Jane's Addiction also is very deserving. I always kind of link them to Nine Inch Nails, in that they are the brainchild of of an eclectic and innovative mastermind that never received the mainstream recognition they deserved. Personally, I'd put them in after Smashing Pumpkins and Soundgarden, and maybe after Alice In Chains. But they'd get in.

And Eminem is this year's no-brainer. One of the most distinctive and innovative figures in rap, he should sail in on the first ballot. And deservedly so.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:48am

Who I would like nominated and who I think will be nominated are quite different

I would like

Patsy Cline
Fanny
Tommy James And The Shondells
Paul Revere And The Raiders
Willie Nelson
Carly Simon
Diana Ross
Spinners
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kate Bush
Duran Duran
UFO
Eurythmics
INXS
Sparks

Who I think will be nominated

Eminem
Pat Benatar & Neil Geraldo
Judas Priest
Rufus with Chaka Kahn
B'52's
Dionne Warwick
Diana Ross
MC5
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
J. Geils Band

Posted by John B on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 11:01am

I think it's an overrated consideration that an on-the-bubble nominee might tip the scales by being on tour, having a prominent member(s) in terminal health, or having had one or more previous times on the shortlist. The RaRHoF is above all a popularity contest, and even then, its own fan balloting is not a good predictor. That said, they seem to loving early MTV acts lately so Benatar and Duran Duran may finally break through. As much as I would love to say they're showing pro-metal basis lately, it's hard to call Bon Jovi or Def Leppard "metal" though they have many heavy songs on their first few albums. There will always be an artist or two who are simply not rock in any way (looking at you, 2Pac and Whitney, may you both rest in peace) while snubbing metal. They have shown that they will throw prog the occasional bone like they have with Rush and Yes, so I would predict that if there will be any pleasant surprise, it will be Tull or Crimson finally making it.

Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 00:14am

Who I think should be nominated & inducted:

Possible nominees

1970's:
Judas Priest
Kool & The Gang
Diana Ross
Thin Lizzy
Slade

1980's:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
George Michael
Jane's Addiction
Motorhead

1990's:
Alice in Chains
Mary J. Blige
Rage Against the Machine
OutKast

2000's:
Eminem

Possible Class of 2022 inductees:
Performer Category:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
Judas Priest
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

Early (Musical) Influence:
Fela Kuti
MC5
Big Mama Thornton

Musical Excellence:
Rory Gallagher
Kool & The Gang
Nas

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Dougie Tokori on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 03:09am

Two bands you won't see...

Bachman Turner Overdrive
The Guess Who

Prediction that Celine Dion will get the Induction.

Change the name from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to Rock and Roll Hall of Farce.

Half the inductees do not deserve to be there.

Posted by Travis Moore on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 08:34am

richie,
I would love to hear what you think about Celine Dion as compared to Mariah Carey, Diana Ross and Cher. Tell me what you think

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 10:34am

Ben,

I know that, but Celine has sold more records and is a much bigger and more popular act than any of those acts except Mariah, I feel that with her recent health issues, I think she could get a surprise nomination this year.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 11:00am

Richie,

Please NO!

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 12:13pm

richie,
Well there you go I mentioned Mariah. I think she will be nominated long before Celine Dion. Whereas Celine Dion is regarded as Easy Listening pop. Mariah has taken on a few genres. The Hall looks for that with Pop performers. Mariah is Not what we call Rock perhaps but she fits in with Both Pop and R&B a lot. So instead Mariah could get a surprise nomination. That's what I think. It's true Celine has health issues. But she has stayed the course with Easy listening. Mariah and others have Not.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 14:34pm

Rock Hall has not been nominating a lot of easy listening acts. The closest thing to it in recent times was Dionne Warwick who didn't get in last year. If she can't get in I don't think voters are going embrace singers like Celine Dion. So Celine Dion getting a surprise nomination is very unlikely going to happen.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 16:19pm

Figured I'd post this to make it easier on myself next time a rock haller dies.

Living Members of The Classes of 1986-2009 (expect 2007), and 2012:

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 23/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Calvin Simon, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive, and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 14 or 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson. It is unknown if Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive or dead.)
2012: 29/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Norman Thrasher, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.)

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 16/19 (Cowboy, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 20:03pm

I'm sorry Travis but this isn't the Hall of Favorites, it's called the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I don't know who these half of the inductees are you referring to, but they are inducted for a number of reasons & there's nothing we could do about. BTO is nowhere near as worthy of induction & The Guess Who is a long shot. As for Celine Dion, i don't mind if she gets nominated but i doubt i'll happen anytime soon.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 20:53pm

Joy division

Posted by stevi colden on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 21:13pm

To Jordan E.- It won't (ever)...

Posted by EDS on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 21:34pm

Greg F.,
Exactly my point, I didn't even remember about Dionne Warwick. Dionne Warwick is notable for having hits in the 60s with Burt Bacharach and Hal David songs. There were no big hits during the early and mid part of the 70s, aside from 1974's "Then Came You", recorded as a duet with the Spinners. But she she had huge success again in the late 70s and early80s with some huge hits. Now the point is if Dionne Warwick didn't get in I agree that voters will probably not embrace Celine Dion. Now Mariah Carey getting a surprise nomination is much more likely. She has done some easy listening music but has done much in R&B and even mild Hip Hop. Mariah Carey has a good chance NOT Celine Dion.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 03:49am

If Dionne can't get in, then NFW will Celine get in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 07:36am

The nominating committee doesn't likely consider someone's health when submitting their names. So I don't think anyone would be like well Celine Dion is in poor health let's nominate her.

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 14:54pm

So Eminem is this year's shoo-in nominee/inductee. I'm curious if there's anyone else eligible this year that you guys think might get a nomination. Or who you think might eventually be considered. Here's my next 5 from the group that's eligible in 2022.

1. Fiona Apple - Her star has really risen in the last few years and she received tremendous acclaim for her newest album. She's the only other newly eligible act I think even has a chance of getting nominated. The powers that be may decide she has to wait until Kate Bush, Bjork, Tori Amos, etc. get their due though.

2. Fatboy Slim - One of the rare EDM artists to hit the mainstream, Fatboy slim stands a decent chance of getting a nomination some day. Not right away though.

3. Erykah Badu - She's the super cool epitome of neo-soul and has tons of friends in the music business, so an eventual nomination seems likely.

4. Belle & Sebastian - Indie darlings with plenty of critical acclaim. That could be a recipe for induction.

5. Slipknot - Maybe the biggest metal band of the last 25 years. Might get some consideration.

Others to consider - Maxwell (His popularity exceeds his sales numbers), N'Sync (If a boy-band is going to make it, it's them), Nickelback (I know, I know...but they were really popular for awhile), Spice Girls (A phenomenon for a very short while with a lasting fan base), Trans-Siberian Orchestra (If you can get in just for Christmas songs)

That kinda tells you about this year's crop. Not much after the first five. For the record, my favorite newly eligible act is Travis. Not the most creative or innovative but I like their songwriting and my wife and I listened to them repeatedly on our honeymoon, so they hold a special place for me.

Posted by Michael W. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 15:13pm

I highly doubt N'Sync will ever be in the Hall, but Justin will probably be inducted as a solo act. (I could kinda see the Backstreet Boys take it... key word kinda).

Slipknot might be inducted one day, but they are very controversial (much more than Motley Crue who are apparently banned), and we all know how the Hall is with metal bands. I think they will be like Iron Maiden where they wait a long time before they're nominated. Only difference is, Slipknot is far heavier and scarier than Maiden were. The Hall is ran by old white men, and a band like Slipknot (who's music is much more extreme than Metallica or Black Sabbath ever were) will no doubt have a tough time convincing the Hall about their worthiness.

Posted by Henry on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 19:08pm

My predictions for the 2022 nominees are:

The B-52's (Eligible since 2003, First Nomination)
Pat Benatar (Eligible since 1999, Second Nomination)
Mary J. Blige (Eligible since 2017, Second Nomination)
Kate Bush (Eligible since 2003, Third Nomination)
Chaka Khan (Eligible since 1998 w/Rufus and since 2003 as Solo, Fourth Nomination/Eighth Including Four w/Rufus)
The Commodores (Eligible since 1999, First Nomination)
Eminem (First Year Eligible)
Eurythmics (Eligible since 2006, Second Nomination)
Iron Maiden (Eligible since 2004, Second Nomination)
The Monkees (Eligible since 1991, First Nomination)
New York Dolls (Eligible since 1998, Third Nomination)
Rage Against The Machine (Eligible since 2017, Fourth Nomination)
Sade (Eligible since 2009, First Nomination)
Sonic Youth (Eligible since 2007, First Nomination)
Soundgarden (Eligible since 2011, Second Nomination)
Dionne Warwick (Eligible since 1987, Second Nomination)

I have 10 Returning Nominees and 6 First-Timers for a total of 16 nominees this year, Also I think this year's nominees is going to mirror 2021's with a lot of women and people of color nominated.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 21:34pm

Since everyone else on FRL is predicting who will make the R&R HoF class of 2022 nominees list, here's one more:

Pat Benatar: The shocker of a few years ago was when she (and Neil Giraldo) didn't make the cut. With the addition of seven women (okay, only five that weren't in the hall last year) she/they will be back.

Joe Cocker: Probably the biggest act at Woodstock that isn't already in. Deserves it.

Duran Duran (or perhaps INXS, or perhaps both): As described above, defined--particularly Duran--the MTV generation. If nominated, one or both should get in. Of the two, Duran Duran has a better probability, because the original lineup will be able to perform--Showtime does want a live performance.

Eminem: This year's first-year-eligible inductee. Welcome to Cleveland.

Judas Priest/Iron Maiden/Motley Crue/etc.: The fans (judging by Facebook) want more metal, even if the committees and the voters don't. Eventually one will break through, and that will start the flood.

Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus): They've nominated her already, and she does have a case for induction. Still, like Kraftwerk, it may be difficult to convince the actual voters of her merit--then again, with the recent influence of women here, maybe not any more.

Fela Kuti: Before he was nominated last year, I--probably, honestly, like most of us--never heard of him. He will probably eventually get in as an Early Influence or in the Musical Excellence category.

The Monkees: With Michael Nesmith's passing, it will give a bit of nostalgia for them--or perhaps a bit of guilt on those who failed to nominate him before (as in Donna Summer, except that she was nominated--many times--but was only inducted after she died.)

Willie Nelson: Arguably the country solo artist with the second-best case (after Johnny Cash, who, as we all know, is already in) for being inducted. Since rock and roll has definite roots in country music, it's easier to justify Nelson and his peers than the recent rap and hip-hop acts (which also belong) into a rock and roll hall of fame. All the more so since he has participated in a prior induction ceremony (that of the Allman Brothers Band).

Sha Na Na: Like Cocker, one of the largest acts at Woodstock that hasn't yet been inducted. Seems to have faded from memory now, which may make it tough for them to be inducted. (The last time I can remember hearing them mentioned--outside of this website--was Adam Sandler's first Hanukkah song.)

Carly Simon: With three female singer-songwriters having made it in the last ten years (Laura Nyro, Joan Baez, Carole King), Carly Simon's case--having arguably been more successful than any them--is strong. I think Showtime would love to have "You're So Vain" performed in the induction ceremony.

And a few off-the-wall additions:

Chubby Checker: When I first started following the R&R HoF, I was shocked (Shocked, I am!) that Checker wasn't already in. Sadly, despite his contributions, he probably will be a posthumous inductee.

Huey Lewis and the News: Of the "corporate rock" acts that the R&R HoF seems to be actively resisting nominating (Foreigner, REO Speedwagon, Styx, Loverboy, etc.), HL&tN's distinctive fifties sound stands out, and I think Showtime would love to have them on stage--if Lewis's recent inner ear problems don't prevent that. Despite what we want to believe, this is very much a popularity contest.

Bette Midler: With the added influence of females, and with the added publicity of her Kennedy Center Honors award, this may be her best shot at induction (or even nomination). Her having inducted Laura Nyro and Darlene Love doesn't hurt, either.

Ted Nugent: Another probable posthumous induction. His music has merit, but the various committees will not want to subject the (mostly liberal) audience to one of his speeches.

Sugar Hill Gang: If any act could be justified on the basis of influence by one song, and only one song, this has to be it. There are, by my count, seven rap/hip-hop acts in the Hall, why hasn't the Hall even considered the group widely credited with starting the genre (or launching the first successful example)?

Three Dog Night: Should be in if only on longevity. And "Joy To the World" would make a great show-concluding All-Star jam.

Warren Zevon: A critical favorite, though apparently not enough of one to get him even nominated.

Posted by Joe S. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 22:41pm

Allow me to add one more to my above post (in the first, non-off-the-wall division):

The Spinners: Possibly the last great act of the Motown era not in. Their biggest impediment is probably that so few of their peers that are inducted (the Four Tops, the Temptations, the Miracles, etc.) are still around to vote them in.

Posted by Joe S. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 22:51pm

Richie, here are my thoughts on your picks.

The B - 52's: Their music is fine & they have some bangers in their discography, but Duran Duran might be one of the acts for a possible nomination by next year so I don't see the Bees' consideration for induction.

Pat Benatar: With Tina Turner inducted, I think 2022 is finally Pat's year for induction & I could see her being nominated a 2nd time & subsequently inducted following her last year's outrageous snub.

Mary J. Blige: She's a worthy candidate & her music had stood the test of time but I can't fathom on her being inducted before Diana Ross so she might wait a few more years.

Kate Bush: Bush has more popularity in the UK than in America & that's pretty much why she's been nominated twice unsuccessfully & with that said I don't see her being nominated again unfortunately.

Chaka Khan: I like her music & she had some good songs I can jam to but she's been nominated around 5 or more times as both a solo artist & member of Rufus so I don't see her being nominated again as well. The only way to get her inducted is through AME & that happened with LL Cool J.

The Commodores: Worthy consideration but it might not happen by next year since the Hall is having a hard time with older R&B acts for possible induction.

Eminem: Yeah I can see him straight up inducted & he'll be a 10th rapper doing so.

Eurythmics: They were only nominated twice & haven't been on the ballot since. They have everything needed for induction but I doubt I'll happen next year if Duran Duran gets a FYN.

Iron Maiden: They have my vote but let's give Judas Priest one more shot for nomination before we focus on Maiden.

The Monkees: I could see them being inducted under different categories instead of "Performer" mostly because the Hall is basically done with 60's acts for inclusion. I get with Mike Nesmith's passing that it pushed a little further for consideration but I don't think it's a guarantee unfortunately.

New York Dolls: They will get inducted at some point mostly because the ceremony is moving to LA instead of NYC but I could be wrong so will see about it.

RATM - I mean it could finally happen when they might be inducted following their possible 4th nomination. Fellow 90's acts including Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails & Foo Fighters are in so it might be Rage's time.

Sade: Not even happening ever, their music is fine but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Sonic Youth: SY were a big influence in indie music & their albums are considered as cultural touchstones in underground music. With that said, they might be inducted at some point but not next year.

Soundgarden: They were a big deal in grunge before Nirvana & Pearl Jam in which they were inducted before Soundgarden had. I don't see them being nominated alongside RATM & it's going to split the overall voting if they do so.

Dionne Warwick: As I said the 60's are done & I don't see her being nominated again. Her music is good but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Overall your predictions are not bad but I don't think it's fully guarantee.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 23:33pm

The B - 52's: 6/10
Pat Benatar: 6/10
Mary J. Blige: 9/10
Kate Bush: 7/10
Chaka Khan: 7/10
The Commodores: 8/10
Eminem: 10/10
Eurythmics: 7/10
Iron Maiden: 8/10
The Monkees: 8/10
New York Dolls: 7/10
Rage Against the Machine: 8/10
Sade: 5/10
Sonic Youth: 8/10
Soundgarden: 8/10
Dionne Warwick: 5/10

By Richie's predictions, here's what the 2022 class would look like

Performers:
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Eminem
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Sonic Youth

If 7:
Iron Maiden

Early Influence:
Big Mama Thornton
Fela Kuti
Sparks

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Nas
King Crimson

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Ronald Jenkins on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 23:50pm

RG and Plebeian,

My predictions for the 2022 nominees are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Kate Bush
Chaka Khan
The Commodores
Eminem
Eurythmics
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Sade
Sonic Youth
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick

Now, If this happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 10:35am

Richie,

Out of your picks:

Rage Against The Machine (via NWA style)
Pat Benatar (Runner-up and has support)
Eminem (Easy pick)
The Monkees (fan vote winner)
New York Dolls (the influential pick)
Sonic Youth (just need a sixth pick and have a clear lane to themselves)

Dionne Warwick maybe maybe not
Sade I don't know why you picked her (seriously?)
Soundgarden I feel will split some heavy metal votes with Maiden
Iron Maiden see above
The B-52's feel like Devo
Eurythmics I could see it, but will split votes with The B-52's
The Commodores are too R/B
Chaka Khan is just gonna get backdoored
I don't see Kate Bush or Mary J. Blige returning

If there is one thing I learned from the previous two classes is that:

-The Hall chooses a 3-timer or more pick
-Rap pick almost always gets in
-Pure R&B acts that don't have much crossover to mainstream tend to do really bad in voting
-Heavy Metal just won't budge
-One of the inductees scored in the top 5 in the fan vote, but did not get in previously (Soundgarden, Judas Priest, Pat Benatar, Fela Kuti, Dave Matthews Band)
-Azoff pick, but only works for one artist! Exception being Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles (The Go-Go's, Stevie Nicks, The Doobie Brothers, etc.)

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 11:23am

Plebeian,

I think you're on point on Richie's predictions expect I don't see The Monkees being considered for an nomination/induction. Don't get me wrong they're really important in popular music & Mike Nesmith's passing pretty much pushed it little further but I don't think it's a guarantee unfortunately especially now the Hall is moving on with the 80's & 90's, heck in the few years RRHOF is going to induct the 00's as well. I will agree with you on Soundgarden & Maiden for splitting votes especially if they go against RATM next year. Dionne Warwick has the same problem as the Monkees. As for the rest, it's a free-for-all.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 15:58pm

Again I ask, when was the last class with no Azzoff acts? I never got the answer. It had to be in the early 2010's or maybe in the 2000's.

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 18:05pm

Alright, here's my turn.

Returning Nominees:
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Kate Bush
Jane's Addiction (Eric Avery, Chris Chaney, Perry Farrell, Dave Navarro, Stephen Perkins)
Judas Priest (Les Brinks, K.K Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, Scott Travis)
New York Dolls (David Johansen, Arthur Kane, Billy Murcia, Jerry Nolan, Sylvain Sylvain, Johnny Thunders)
Rage Against the Machine (Tim Commerford, Zack del la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk)
Sting
Thin Lizzy (Eric Bell, Brian Downey, Scott Gorham, Phil Lynott, Brian Robertson)

New Nominees:
The B -52's (Kate Pierson, Fred Schneider, Keith Strickland, Cindy Wilson, Ricky Wilson)
Beck
Eminem
Eric B & Rakim
Joy Division/New Order (Tom Chapman, Paul Cunningham, Ian Curtis, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Bernard Sumner)
George Michael
Diana Ross

Inductees:
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
BIg Mama Thornton
Sparks (Ron Mael, Russell Mael)

Award for Musical Excellence:
Rory Gallagher
Chaka Khan
Kool & The Gang (Robert Bell, Ronald Bell, George Brown, Charles Smith, James "J.T" Taylor, Dennis Thomas, Curtis Williams)

Non - Performer Award:
Don Cornelius

Posted by Jake Epstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 20:11pm

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Jordan Einstein and others,

In the past two induction classes (2020 and 2021), 2 70's acts, 2 80's acts and 2 90's acts went in for a total of 6 Performer inductees, for 2020, The Doobie Brothers and T. Rex for the 70's, Depeche Mode and Whitney Houston for the 80's and Nine Inch Nails and The Notorious B.I.G. for the 90's and for 2021, Carole King and Todd Rundgren for the 70's, The Go-Go's and Tina Turner for the 80's and Foo Fighters and Jay-Z for the 90's. Now, If that pattern continues this year for 2022, Which 2 70's acts, Which 2 80's acts and Which 2 90's acts do you see making up the 6 Performer inductees?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 21:37pm

Richie,

The formula might break this year due to the fact Eminem is more 2000s than 90s. Regardless, here's who I think:

70s: Diana Ross and New York Dolls
80s: Pat Benatar and Duran
90s: Rage Against The Machine
00s: Eminem

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:08pm

*Duran Duran

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:09pm

Richie,

Like Plebeian said, the decades are a moving target, so it won't necessarily be 2 70s, 2 80s, 2 90s. That said, my prediction is:

60s/70s: Dionne Warwick
80s: Pat Benatar, Duran Duran
90s: Smashing Pumpkins, Mariah Carey
00s: Eminem

Posted by RG on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:55pm

Richie,

70's: Diana Ross & New York Dolls
80's: Judas Priest & Duran Duran
90's: Rage Against the Machine
00's: Eminem

Oh don't forget everyone that 60's are done with consideration for nominations, so we will be seeing more 80's & 90's acts inducted.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 23:13pm

The latest episode of Who Cares? was about remaining Classic Rock acts for the Hall. Who of these do you guys think has the best chance of getting in? (Only including acts discussed at length)

The Guess Who
Jethro Tull
Joe Cocker
Warren Zevon
Grand Funk Railroad
J. Geils Band
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Supertramp
Thin Lizzy
America
REO Speedwagon
Blue Oyster Cult
Scorpions
Styx
Bad Company
Judas Priest
Kansas
Pat Benatar
Boston
Foreigner
Eddie Money
George Thorogood
Bryan Adams
INXS
Billy Squire
Motley Crue
The Black Crows
Toto

Also, does anyone contest the "Classic Rock" label for any of these?

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 00:31am

Jordan Einstein,

Replace Priest for Pat and we are pretty much on the same page. Eminem will be our truly first successful 2000s act if he gets inducted. Also I agree with you on Smashing Pumpkins. We need them on a test drive to see if they do well enough on the ballot.

Another thing I have and this is me being theoretical, is that Rage feels like a lock next year due to many factors.

A) Grohl got his favor and induction, now it's Tom's turn
B) 30th anniversary for the debut album
C) A planned reunion coming up
D) 2022 ceremony is in L.A. and hometown advantage might help them. Then again it did not work for DEVO.

Thoughts?

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 01:04am

Since Norman Thrasher was revealed to have died shortly after I posted the full list, I'll only update the part he was in, 2012:

2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 01:33am

Jordan,
You say that the 60s are done. I disagree. I think the 60s are weak but NOT done. but weak. The 60s may be represented with one slot. I predict Dionne Warwick. Other possibilities are the Monkees and Blood,Sweat & Tears. and the Guess Who. I say the Monkees due to the very recent passing of Mike Nesmith, The rest will be 70's 80s and 90s. Skipping to the 80s. Duran Duran have a terrific shot. If Duran Duran are nominated I think they will be inducted. I know their hits Well. What are your thoughts?

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 04:20am

Should be there.

1. Big Mama Thornton
2. Gram Persons/Emylou Harris
3. Joe Cocker
4. Johnny Winter
5. John Mayall
6. Chuck Willis
7. Tom Jones
8. Iron Maiden
9. Judas Priest
10 Cliff Richard & The Shadows
11. Willie Nelson
12. Patsy Cline
13. The Carter Family
14. The Jordonaires
15. Rory Gallagher
16. Melissa Etheridge
17. Pat Banatar
18. Colonel Parker
19. The Guess Who
20. Ed Sullivan
21. Townes Van Zandt
22. Steve Earle
23. Waylon Jennings
24. Merle Haggard
25. Jethro Tull
26. ELP
27, King Crimson
28. Wings
29. Boston
30. Culture Club
31. Nicky Hopkins
32. Jim Gordon/Jim Keltner
33. Jaco Pastorius
34. Buddy Miles
35. John McLaughlin
36. Mike Oldfield
37. Canned Heat
38 Ten Years After
39. Quickssilver Messanger Service
40. Country Joe & The Fish
41. Richie Havens
42. Kate Bush
43. Marianne Faithfull
44. Alpha Blondy
45. Johnny Clegg
46. Melanie Safka
47. Johnny Halliday
48. Serge Gainsbourg
49. Ted Nugent
50. Ali Faka Touré
51. Vicente Fernandez
51. John Prine
52. Jose Feliciano
53. Gloria Estefan
54. Jan & Dean
55. Nico
56. The Monkees
56. Gran Funk Railroad
57. Dream Theatre
58. Dave Mathews Band
59. Loggins & Messina
60. Garth Brooks
61, Shania Twain
62, Dionne Warwick
63. Wilco
64. Ronnie James Dio
65. Andy Gibb
66. Foreigner
67. The New York Dolls
68. Boomtown Rats/Bob Geldof
69. Thin Lazy
70. Uriah Heep
71. Mott The Hoople
72. The Chieftains
73. The Neville Brothers
74. Clifton Chenier
75. Flaco Jimenez
76. Los Lobos
77. Joe Tex
78. Frank Sinatra
79. Neil Sadaka
80. Paul Anka
81. Conway Twitty
82. Warren Zevon
83. Jim Croce
84. Rammsteen
85. Barry White
86. Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
87. Willie Nile
88. Yoko Ono
89. Manfred Mann
90 Dave Mason
91. Eurytmycks
92. Badfinger
93. Status Quo
94. Vanilla Fudge
95. Iron Buterfly
96. Dr. Hook & The Medecine Show
97. Sonny & Cher
98. It's a Beautiful Day
99. Jeff Beck Group
100. Marvis Staples
101. Celia Cruz
102. John Denver

Posted by Denis on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 09:35am

Who do you think would win the online fan vote if they're nominated this year for 2022?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 11:41am

Motley Crue since they've been getting the most at kiosk. A fan vote win seems inevitable for them if they get nominated.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 11:53am

Follower,

Here's how I would categorize that WCATRH? Classic Rock list (haven't listened to the episode yet):

Will get in relatively soon:
Jethro Tull
Warren Zevon
Thin Lizzy
Bad Company
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
Boston

Probably gets in, might take a while:
The Guess Who
Joe Cocker
Bryan Adams
INXS
Motley Crue
J. Geils Band (only because the nom com seems to like them)

Probably never getting in:
Grand Funk Railroad
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Supertramp
America
REO Speedwagon
Blue Oyster Cult
Scorpions
Styx
Kansas
Foreigner
Eddie Money
George Thorogood
Billy Squire
The Black Crows
Toto

Posted by RG on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 12:54pm

That's The Black Crowes.

Posted by joker on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 13:16pm

RG,

besides Jethro Tull, Warren Zevon, Thin Lizzy, Bad Company, Judas Priest, Pat Benatar, Boston, Dionne Warwick, Duran Duran, Smashing Pumpkins, Mariah Carey and Eminem, Which other acts do you think will get in relatively soon?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 14:58pm

Plebeian,

I think metal is way more unrepresented by the Hall so that's pretty much why I put JP on the 80's instead of Benatar. As for the Pumpkins, i would say that they might get an FYN by 2023. For RATM, i think the Hall is trying to get them on the same lane as N.W.A by nominating them 3 times & letting them be inducted following their 4th nod. I think the main reason why Devo didn't get inducted for a 2nd time is mostly they were up against the Go Go's in which they have the most overall votes all thanks to their documentary.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 15:44pm

Follower,

I don't expect all of the classic rock bands/artists being considered for induction as most of them on the list are nowhere near significantly important & influential as most of the past inductees. Also i wouldn't labeled all of them "classic rock".

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 15:50pm

Big Mama Thornton
Chaka Khan
Cher
Daft Punk
Dr. Dre
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
Madness
Mariah Carey
MC5
Soundgarden
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy

Repeats:
Chaka Khan
Judas Priest
MC5
Soundgarden
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy

New:
Big Mama Thornton
Cher
Daft Punk
Dr. Dre
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Mariah Carey

Left Field pick:
Madness

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 20:50pm

dmg,

Out of your predictions for the 2022 nominees (Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, Cher, Daft Punk, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Madness, The Marvelettes, MC5, Soundgarden, The Spinners, Thin Lizzy and Big Mama Thornton). Which ones do you see being inducted?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 22:43pm

I disagree about the scorpions never getting in. The only thing that is a knock against them is that they're German, like Kraftwerk before them. Finally, as usual. I'm the last one to find the new board. More coming soon

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 23:28pm

Richie, Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 19, 2021- There are only 4 more work days left in this year. There are only 12 days left in 2021. In approximately 33 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately less than 46 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Rush and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. See Rush.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming.

Please let me think about the other 9.

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/19/2021 @ 11:28am

Enig,
How have you been lately? I was looking at your list above. I like it generally speaking. You have several predictions of mine. I will mention Jethro Tull first. I surely am predicting them. I guess we can call them second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. I am just not sure who would induct them. It is about time Tull are nominated. They were a major Rock band of the 70s. I totally agree with Tull. I would say it makes sense Rush, Yes and the Moody Blues were all inducted first. Another strong agreement I have is Carly Simon. You're So Vain' is one of the greatest hits of all; time. Other notable songs of hers are Haven't Got Time for the Pain, Nobody Does it Better, Jesse and Coming Around Again. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next for singer/Songwriter. Also a key agreement is Dionne Warwick. A re nomination is definitely deserved. There is No doubt about it.
Duran Duran is a pick I've been predicting for a few years. A terrific choice for the 80s. They would have competed with the Go-Gos this year. That's why they waited I'd say. I agree with a few others. Now my list also includes Emerson, Lake & Palmer. They were a major act of the 70s too. And 2 members are already dead. They have several notable albums. BUT I don't think they'll be Inducted right away. The Hall would go with Jethro Tull. There would not be 2 huge prog acts at the same time. That does Not tend to happen. I notice you have not predicted Eminem yet. You said you have another 9 coming., I am NOT a fan of Eminem at all. I don't even think I know a single tune. With all my diversity I never bothered to find out. I was already 34 when he was on the rise. I predicted him anyway. Due to his huge popularity. I know some Public Enemy, Biggie and Ice T. But I know zero tunes by Eminem. You may want to throw Eminem in unless your choices here are a wish list. Just a thought.
Other picks of mine are Joy Division/New Order, Dave Matthews Band, and Diana Ross. I made my list rather diverse. I recall you have predicted Dave Matthews Band before. That fan base can score them big. Diana Ross as a solo act is terrific choice. Huge success with her solo career. She's been huge from the 60s to Now. She had huge hits 1973-1983. That's it for now. What are your thoughts?
What do you think? .

Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 04:33am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

AlexVoltaire made his predictions for the 2022 nominees this morning and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Chaka Khan
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
Alanis Morissette
New York Dolls
OutKast
Rage Against The Machine
Sade
Soundgarden

Now, If Alex's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 10:40am

Richie,

Just saw his list as well, here are my thoughts.

This is a very realistic list, I won't argue with the inclusion of any artists on here.

Here's how I get to what the class would be. Sade, New York Dolls, and Commodores wouldn't have a shot. Iron Maiden falls victim to the metal curse. Mary J Blige and Chaka Khan get lost in the shuffle, though Chaka Khan will certainly get in via Musical Excellence next year no matter what. OutKast (very unfortunately) gets overshadowed by Eminem. One of Rage and Soundgarden won't get in, let's say Rage. B-52's and Alanis just miss the cut.

The class is:
Pat Benatar
Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
Soundgarden (possible sub for Alanis)

Posted by RG on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 11:01am

Redoing predictions again as I feel I have given them more thought.

Husker Du (The nonfactor Bad Brains one)
Duran Duran (Obvious New Wave pick)
Pat Benatar (Strong on fan ballot and voting committee)
Soundgarden (Split the votes with Iron Maiden)
Rage Against The Machine (N.W.A. Style)
Iron Maiden (See Soundgarden)
Fiona Apple (Cool to see her, but the nom is the prize)
Eminem (Sailing Away!)
Sparks (Electronic pick)
New York Dolls (Give them another shot and if they don't show up on this ballot I will go with Cher reluctantly)
Diana Ross (Tina + Whitney makes things easier for her)
The B-52's (Kind of have a reputation like Devo)
Iron Maiden (I wish, but cursed because of bias in Heavy Metal)
Chaka Khan (Will get in backdoored)
The Monkees (Fan Vote winner)
Wild Card: Townes Van Zandt (The WTF pick and hey it could happen!)

The Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Rage Against The Machine
Eminem
Diana Ross
The Monkees (JE, I know you said they are done with the sixties, but I have a huge hunch that The Monkees will be the last LAST official big sixties artist to be inducted. Would make a great closing book on the great musical decade)

Potential spoiler: Cher/New York Dolls

Jordan Einstein, RG, Richie, Steve Z, Paul in KY, Michael W. etc.

Your thoughts?

Also I will get my casualty of snubs finished, I totally forgot about it.

K-Dawg,

Hope you had time to look over my list :)

Posted by Plebeian on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 12:25pm

Shoot, put Iron Maiden twice, replace with Cher.

Posted by Plebeian on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 12:33pm

Plebian

Good list. I do wish I knew exactly how many votes are voted. Does the addition of `10 more votes for an artist a big thing or just a drop in the bucket.

OutKast has got to get in sometime! They are my biggest snub now, along with Judas Priest and Dionne.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 13:46pm

Writing too fast. Should be: Is the addition of 10 more votes for an artist a big thing or just a drop in the bucket?

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 14:55pm

Paul,

Agreed on OutKast, they're my biggest snub atm. I'm not hopeful for this year because of the Eminem of it all, but I'm banking on 2023 being their year, cause come on, how long can you really wait with these guys?

Posted by RG on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 19:57pm

Plebeian, your predictions are cool. Here's who i think should be inducted under your predictions. .

Performers:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

The Monkees & Sparks should be inducted under Musical Excellence & Early Influence respectively.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 21:37pm

Plebian,
I also think your list is Cool. I am just Not sure about Cher. That's theonly shaky one. There is plenty of other pop artists to be nominated first. I do see your point about the Monkees following recent passing of Michael Nesmith. What I mean is I see your point about them as last official big 60s artist. I mean this is for 2022. The 60s run dry at some point. I predicted Steppenwolf and Blood, Sweat & Tears a few times. The Monkees have a far better chance. I would not mind the Monkees on the ballot at all. I have fond memories of the show in reruns 1970-1973. This was obviously after the show was done. I used to run to the TV 50 years ago to watch the Monkees. Great memories. The Monkees is a good sendoff for 60s music.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 04:25am

Alex Voltaire's list seems fairly realistic. It has a good mix of previously nominated artists and newcomers and fits the Hall's focus on diversity. If those were the nominees, I'd guess the inductees would be:

Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
OutKast
Soundgarden

Almost the same as RG's predictions, but I have Outkast instead of Pat Benatar. This would be the first time that two rap artists were inducted as performers in the same year. Pat and the B-52's would be the next closest vote getters I think, and Alanis would have a shot too.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:41am

Please tell I'm not the only one that is puzzled by these Cher predictions. I understand her credentials and success, but will voters really rally for her? I'm gobsmacked about the thought of it. Anyone getting similar feelings?

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:57am

Plebeian,

I like your list but I think it works better as a wish list than a prediction list. There's no chance that Husker Du, Sparks, and Townes Van Zandt all appear for the first time on the same ballot. They're pretty much long shots to appear at all, let alone at the same time. It's fun to dream though.

I do like Fiona Apple as a dark horse though. She's FYE and not getting much mention, but her last album was phenomenal and she's gotten quite a bit of attention lately, so maybe.

The rest of the list seems pretty possible. Like everyone else here, I've been waiting for a Duran Duran nomination for some time now. The B-52's seem overdue as well to me.

I'll think about my predictions and probably post them some time after Christmas.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:01am

About the 2022 Nomination Predictions, Plebeian wrote:
Please tell I'm not the only one that is puzzled by these Cher predictions. I understand her credentials and success, but will voters really rally for her? I'm gobsmacked about the thought of it. Anyone getting similar feelings?
Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:57am

Cher was in Tina Turner's 2021 Rock Hall video bio/package at the ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:46am

A bold and hugely successful female artist who has been successful for over a half century should already be in the Rock Hall. Looking at your countdown of 12 wishlist artists for the Rock Hall, I'm not surprised that you would be puzzled by Cher.

Posted by Jd Hathaway on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:56am

K make sense now. Also I'm not a blind rock purist like my list says I am. I just like what I like.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 11:24am

PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
The Sugarhill Gang
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
King Crimson
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 15:32pm

EDIT

Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
The Sugarhill Gang
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:43pm

EDIT AGAIN (SORRY)

Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
Diana Ross
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:46pm

My other predictions for 2022.

Possible Nominees:
The B - 52's: Devo has been nominated twice, so maybe give The Bees a shot.

Pat Benatar: Very likely would be inducted following Tina Turner & Carole King so let's give her another shot.

Duran Duran: Most likely would be a FYN inductee.

Eminem: 100% lock for FYE induction.

Judas Priest: Let's give them one more shot & see how the overall voting turns out, it's likely they'll be inducted after their 3rd nomination.

Chaka Khan: Likely would be inducted through AME.

Lenny Kravitz: Maybe he won't be a FYN inductee but he'll be inducted at some point.

Motorhead: Very deserving but can't be inducted at the same time as JP likely due to splitting the votes.

OutKast: Maybe give them a first nomination & if they didn't get inducted then it's going to be at some point for them.

Diana Ross: Tina Turner & Carole King got inducted for a second time so it's likely Diana's turn.

Rage Against the Machine: It's possible they will be returning since the ceremony is coming back in LA.

Slade: I thought i pick Slade because T. Rex got inducted in 2020 & alongside them had influenced everyone from Punk to Hair Metal.

Smashing Pumpkins: Well Foo Fighters got inducted so maybe it's their time & they might be inducted at some point but most not likely in 2022.

Sparks: Their documentary may have push their chances on earning induction but it's most likely would be through Early Influence since Kraftwerk got inducted under that category.

Thin Lizzy: They might be inducted at some point & they were only nominated once so maybe they might be inducted under "Early Influence".

War: Possibly my final pick because why not. They have everything needed for induction but i doubt it's their year. Nominate them for a 4th time & let's see how the voting turned out.

Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
Judas Priest
RATM
Diana Ross
Slade (if 7)

Early Influence:
Sparks
John Coltrane

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
The Monkees

What does everyone think about mine?

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:47pm

Richie,
I saw Alex Voltaire's list this morning. I agree This is a very realistic list, I won't argue with the inclusion of any artists on here. I have predicted a whole lot of these on my current list. I did Not include the Monkees. But I plan on changing that in the near future due to the passing of Michael Nesmith. I will also consider Chaka Khan. But truthfully in 2022 I do think she will get in via Music Excellence. I also think Iron Maiden will get the metal curse. OutKast gets overshadowed by Eminem. I think Rage Against the Machine will miss the cut.
I don't normally do this but the class would be:
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
Soundgarden

I am still working on the Early Influence predictions.
I think I mentioned some
Bing Crosby, Charlie Parker and also
Peggy Lee are some I'm considering.
Peggy Lee dates back to about 1958, She can certainly be put in Early Influence
This is off the topic of the Alex Voltaire list but I've been thinking of this category in the last few days. I took the opportunity to write about it.
Anyway above that is a class for 2022 based on Alex Voltaire

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:54pm

Alex pointed out that, in addition to the nondescript bands with a well-regarded member (ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music, T. Rex, Foo Fighters) there has also been a woman who has waited for a long time to get in for every class since 2017 (Joan Baez, Nina SImmone, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, both Carole King and Tina Turner).

Be sure to keep both of them as factors in your own predictions!

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:17pm

Alex pointed out that, in addition to the nondescript bands with a well-regarded member (ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music, T. Rex, Foo Fighters) there has also been a woman who has waited for a long time to get in for every class since 2017 (Joan Baez, Nina SImmone, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, both Carole King and Tina Turner).

Be sure to keep both of them as factors in your own predictions!

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:17pm

Jordan Einstein,

Good picks! Lenny Kravitz is a long shot though. For some reason we seem to be at the same wave length. Feels like only you and me see Rage as potential spoiler and have faith in them getting in on the 4th try. OutKast could get shut out like Radiohead.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:56pm

PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
Diana Ross
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera
Slayer
Anthrax
Alice in Chains

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chic
Chubby Checker
The Big Bopper
Link Wray and His Wray Men
Pete Best
The Sugarhill Gang
Peter Green
Bob Welch

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Tommy Johnson
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Ella Fitzgerald
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
Scott Joplin



SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Steve Miller Band
The Jeff Beck Group
Crazy Horse
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
Wings
The Wailers

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 18:42pm

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 18:43pm

Follower,

That's why my predictions have consistently included the likes of Bad Company and Foreigner in my picks, in addition to Carly Simon...

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 01:59am

K-Dawg,
I just reviewed Alex Voltaire's again. I was looking for a band with a Well regarded member. I think that would be Soundgarden! Right? Is that correct. Soundgarden had Cornell. Alex has the Women well covered
Alex has Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Chaka Khan
Cher
Alanis M
Sade
All those fine women are on his current list. But let me know about the regarded Member. Hear from ya Please

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 06:50am

I am redoing predictions because I have thought them out more and I take into account recent events.

PERFORMERS
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Chaka Khan
The Monkees
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon
This now reflects the passing of Mike Nesmith. Hey the Monkees had so many hits. Also I have a kind of WTF pick with Warren Zevon and he has been known as a snub a long time. They tried Fela Kuti last year. This year I say they move away from Africa and give Warren Z a chance. He was American

Ohh right.
EARLY INFLUENCE
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

MUSIC EXCELLENCE

Chaka Khan
Judas Priest
Sugarhill Gang

What does everyone think of this new list I have made? Respond when you can!

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 09:10am

Cool predictions Ben, although i wouldn't put Judas Priest under Musical Excellence mostly because they were legitimate figures in Metal (even though the genre had been ignored throughout), maybe The Monkees should be inducted under that category because they were seen as a parody rather than a serious act & let's give Priest one more shot for earning induction as a performer. I likely anticipated that Priest would be inducted after their possible 3rd nomination (I mean that worked for most artists in the past). As for your the rest of your predictions in the performers, the only guarantee is that Eminem would be a FYE inductee. The others that might earned induction in 2022 from your predictions would be Diana Ross, Pat Benatar, RATM, Duran Duran & Judas Priest (in place of the Monkees). However, some of your picks might not be considered anytime soon.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 10:54am

Once again I'm posting the Discord server link for those who care: https://discord.gg/38aKMHeTq8

Posted by Raichu on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:07am

Jordan,
Nice response. The reason I went with Judas Priest as Music Excellence is it was done for Randy Rhoads this year. It gives the Heavy metal fans something again but they sadly get skipped over as Performer due to the metal curse. I definitely like some heavy metal. Priest are one of the best but they got shafted twice. If they are inducted as Music Excellence it can pave the way for Metal bands as performer like Iron Maiden, Scorpions as well as Quiet Riot maybe. But anyway Priest as Music Excellence spares them another snub. I agree that ones like Bryan Adams may not be considered that soon. But Bryan A would just be a nominee a few times. NOT an inductee

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:41am

I'd like to nominate Ian Hunter to the Hall of Fame. I truly feel he deserves it. The last time I was there, I saw his white piano on display. He is truly a great writer and also a great singer with his unique voice. He is 80 + years old. Please don't wait till he's passed away to bring him aboard. I'm sure it would mean a great deal to Ian.

Posted by Jeff Boyer on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:57am

Ben,

I would consider Chris Cornell a well-regarded figure. Yes, Soundgarden is also in my predictions.

Couple of points to throw towards Jordan..this is an opinion and not a challenge of any sort, so please do not take it as such.

First, the Monkees started as a TV comedy, but they evolved into a real band. In the late 60s, they were considered as popular as the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, the Who and others. It was the first openly contrived throw a group of musicians together to create a band situation, and it is the precursor to things like American Idol and the Voice. These 4 gentlemen ARE real musicians, and the influence they have, I feel, is worthy of them receiving a full induction, not a side nom.

Secondly, the RRHOF has missed the ball on metal time and again. However, Priest and Iron Maiden are contemporaries. Just because someone predicts Maiden to go in doesn't mean Priest has been left in the cold. They are like the Cure and Depeche Mode; they pioneered the metal sound in the late 70s to early 80s. Even if there was a correct order to induct them in, the Hall of Fame still throws the shiniest new toy in over and over and eventually gets to its influence. There has never been rhyme or reason consistently. So, when Maiden gets predicted, please don't think we're ignoring Priest.

Women are going to play a large part in this year's noms, and although I'm not changing my picks at this time, Cher is a compelling thought. She doesn't have the criticism that she's already been nominated that Stevie Nicks and Tina Turner had (Sonny and Cher are NOT in the RRHOF, unless they're in a special cat). There is a real possibility, along with Dionne Warwick, Diana Ross, or Mariah Carey, that she could be another choice to boost the women vote. Pat Benatar and others are a little different, but I definitely predict 1/3 of whatever acts get inducted this year will be female

That's all for now, just some random musings ahead of the final countdown

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 12:59pm

Ben, i totally get what you're saying about Priest being inducted for AME but just because they were only shafted from entering the Hall twice as performers doesn't mean they won't likely be nominated again in the category. Let's take a look at Deep Purple & their long overdue induction: They have to wait 20+ years, they were snubbed twice & when they were nominated for a 3rd time, i thought that they might be snubbed once more & would likely be inducted under AME or Early Influence. But came in 2016 that DP were rightfully inducted as performers after all this time. The reason i mentioned DP mostly because it just goes to show that artists like Priest still have a chance to finally make the cut in the Performer Category. I mean if we're going down that road for AME, then Motorhead, Ronnie James Dio, Thin Lizzy & Steppenwolf would likely be alongside them. But yeah i get what you're saying but if Purple could be inducted as performers so can Priest.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 14:41pm

Jordan,
Yeah what you say makes sense. I actually am still working on the E Influence and Music Excellence. I am experimenting with it. But I'll keep Maiden as my metal pick. I was following the pattern of Randy Rhoades. I forgot about the long delay of DP.
I have another I am toying with. A guitarist of Prog Rock. That would be Robert Fripp.
There is some doubt that King Crimson will be inducted.
I think I will change the Music Excellence predictions.
This is totally an experiment for me. Prog is also ignored a bit
MUSIC EXCELLENCE

Chaka Khan
Robert Fripp
The Sugarhill Gang

I changed it. This is what's soo cool about this sight. Others bring up good excellent points. Respond again. I will give Priest other shots in 2023 and perhaps 2024 as PERFORMER. Hear from ya.soon

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 15:15pm

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Nick Bambach made his predictions for the 2022 nominees today and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Chaka Khan
Cher
De La Soul
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Diana Ross
Soundgarden
Thin Lizzy
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

Now, If Nick's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 16:23pm

Jordan,
What are your thoughts on my Improved Music Excellence picks?
I will say them again

MUSIC EXCELLENCE
Robert Fripp
Chaka Khan
The Sugarhill Gang

Robert Fripp is reknowned guitarist. He is most notable for King Crimson. This would throw something to Prog fans. That includes me. I am not like Enig but I dig my share of Prog rock. Robert Fripp has been around since the late 60s. Thats 50 years of music.
I have also chosen Chaka Khan and Sugarhill Gang. You didnt critique those choices. I think they both make sense. Chaka Khan has been nominated lots of times. It's time to solve her induction.
I threw in Sugarhill Gang. I dont think they have much chance as Performer. I'm continuing the trend of LL. It may happen.
Hear from Ya

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 04:30am

Ben, i would say that your improved picks are very good maybe have King Crimson as whole if you know what i mean. Actually i have my own picks for AME & Early (Musical) Influence that i would like to share as well.

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Ronnie James Dio
The Meters

Early (Musical) Influence:
Sparks
Big Mama Thornton
Fela Kuti

What do you think about my picks?

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 07:10am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Nick Bambach made his predictions for the 2022 nominees yesterday and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Chaka Khan
Cher
De La Soul
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Diana Ross
Soundgarden
Thin Lizzy
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

Now, If Nick's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 13:17pm

Nickelback replaces The Smiths in the Top 10

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. Eminem
04. Backstreet Boys
05. Blink-182
06. Mariah Carey
07. Duran Duran
08. Alice In Chains
09. Nickelback
10. Smashing Pumpkins

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2021: Foo Fighters
2020: Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019: Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018: The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017: Yes * Journey
2016: Chicago * Deep Purple
2015: Green Day
2014: Kiss * Nirvana
2013: Rush

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 00:07am

Ben E. King * Mary Wells * The Marvelettes * The Spinners * The Shangri-Las * Chubby Checker * Harry Belafonte * Diana Ross * Dionne Warwick * Willie Nelson * Judy Collins * Phil Collins * Steve Winwood * Joe Cocker * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Captain Beefheart * Barry White * The Kingston Trio * Peter, Paul & Mary * The Spencer Davis Group * Jan & Dean * The Monkees * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Kool & The Gang * The Commodores * Carly Simon * Foreigner * Joy Division / New Order * WHAM! / George Michael * Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine * INXS

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 01:27am

A major 3 for all!

MOTOWN

1. Ben E. King
2. The Spinners
3. The Marvelettes

FOLK

1. The Kingston Trio
2. Peter, Paul & Mary
3. Judy Collins

COUNTRY

1. Willie Nelson
2. Waylon Jennings
3. Merle Haggard

POP

1. Jan & Dean
2. The Monkees
3. Chubby Checker

PROG

1. Jethro Tull
2. King Crimson
3. Emerson, Lake & Palmer

JAZZ-ROCK-R&B

1. Blood, Sweat & Tears
2. Kool & The Gang
3. The Commodores

HEAVY METAL

1. Motorhead
2. Iron Maiden
3. Judas Priest

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 02:20am

Jordan.
Right I see your point about the whole band King Crimson. Again these special categories are new thing for mew. It's cool. It gives us extra stuff to talk about
I'll change it one more time. I was thinking of guitarists ignored

MUSIC EXCELLENCE:
Chaka Khan
King Crimson
The Meters

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

In a previous time Dionne Warwick would have been inducted as a Regular Performer. She is better suited in Early I for 2022
I forgot all about the Meters. They've nominated a lot of times. They are now one of my picks. This answers your question on what I think of your picks.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 04:18am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Assuming six Performer inductees per class and five more years from 2022 to 2027, Who do you guys see being the next 36 acts inducted into the Rock Hall from the Performer category to be in some order?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 10:52am

Richie: love your enthusiasm but you ask too many questions.

King Crimson should be nominated ASAP but they're a long shot at this point. Way more important to Prog Rock than Jethro Tull (who should also be in).

Alex Voltaire and Nick Bambach's predictions rock. If either of those two's lists became a reality, that would be really great. Eminem, Cher, B-52s, Soundgarden, Pat Benatar and Iron Maiden would likely get in.

Posted by Matt J on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 11:01am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Matt J, Follower, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

The latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast has just came out and Joe and Kristen made their predictions for the next five induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 15:53pm

2022: Eminem may wait, Pat's a lock, Duran Duran too, Mariah is possible depending on who else is nominated, B-52's would be a welcome surprise, Soundgarden may wait, I see Pixies or Jane's Addiction getting in instead

2023: Outkast would work for the 20th anniversary of "Speakerboxx/love Below". Dionne could get an early influence award instead, Joy Division and New Order should be separated with Joy Division going in first. Foreigner 's a lock for 2022 or 2023. I would love to see George Michael get inducted, Cher is pretty spot on if Diana Ross get's inducted in 2022.

2024: Very likely for Coldplay, The Fugees may get in first before Lauryn Hill solo, Smiths are likely, RATM may get in sooner, same with Eurythmics, Snoop Dogg is likely for either 2022 or 2023.

2025: Very Likey for Missy Elliot, Cyndi may get in sooner, it's likely for Beck, Jethro Tull may get in sooner than that, same with Devo. Roberta Flack may get an early influence award soon.

2026: At this rate, it's likey Judas Priest may get in at that time. I think Carly Simon may get in sooner, I think Kool and The Gang will get in first. It may depend on how many nominations Salt-N-Pepa get. I think Phil Collins will get in sooner than that and the same with Weezer.

Posted by Zack F on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 17:57pm

I think Linkin Park will get in in 2026. I also think Motley Crue could eventually get in that year or 2027.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 18:15pm

Alright, here's what i think should be inducted in the next 5 years.

Class of 2022:
Pat Benatar - Yep i think after Tina Turner got inducted that it's finally Pat's year for earning induction.

Duran Duran - Well DD were a trending theme on the internet for a few years now so i anticipated that they would get an FYE induction by next year.

Eminem - He's a only guarantee & a lock for induction (sorry Zack F. but you're totally off base on him)

Judas Priest - I can guarantee that Metal would finally shine & JP is definitely a perfect choice.

RATM - They receive their 4th nomination & they finally do get inducted since the ceremony is going to be held in LA.

Diana Ross - See "Pat Benatar" first above.

Class of 2023:
Missy Elliot - Probably would be the first female rapper to be inducted.

Iron Maiden - Well i was originally going to put Motorhead in but they may likely be inducted under AME if they did get two more shots but failed to be inducted as performers, so i choose Iron Maiden instead.

Joy Division/New Order - Well The Cure & Depeche Mode are inducted & JD/NO pretty much paved the way for fellow alternative bands including the two & it wouldn't be them if it weren't for JD/NO.

New York Dolls - Third time it's a charm for them, heck the ceremony may returned in NYC so they have a shot.

OutKast - Hmmm having two rap acts inducted in the same year, that happened this year with LL Cool J & Jay - Z so it could happened with Missy Elliott & OutKast.

The Smashing Pumpkins - Probably would be next after Foo Fighters & RATM.

Class of 2024:
Mary J. Blige - It may take a few nominations to get there but she would be inducted by that point.

Sean Combs - Won't be an FYE but certainly an FYN inductee.

Coldplay - With Radiohead in, Coldplay may have a chance to become an FYE inductee.

Devo - The ceremony may returned in Cleveland so Devo has a perfect chance to finally earn induction in place of Kraftwerk.

Slade - Maybe they might be the next British glam act to be inducted after T. Rex.

Soundgarden - I might think they would be inducted after being left out for a few years.

Class of 2025:
A Tribe Called Quest
Christina Aguilera
DMX
Lauryn Hill
Motley Crue
The Smiths

Class of 2026:
Alice in Chains
Mariah Carey
Phil Collins
De La Soul
Pixies
Britney Spears

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 20:16pm

A LOT to unpack with all those nomination potentials, but I'm seeing Christina and Britney getting in before or around the same time as Mariah? I don't think so. It took the nom com more than 35 years to put Whitney and Janet in, and those two are much more accepted for influence than Spears and Aguilera. Lauryn Hill, on the other hand, is hugely influential, and she has a shot either solo or with the Fugees. I think Alicia Keys has a shot at FYE in 2026 as well...

Posted by K Dawg on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 01:42am

Jordan.
Before I mention any other year. I want to go over 2022, I agree with ones for sure like Pat Benatar, Diana Ross and Eminem. I sort of agree with Duran Duran but you may have made a mistake. You say FYE for induction. As far as I know that's the abbrev for FIRST YEAR eligible. They would be First Year Nominated. First Year Eligible. Based on the usual abbrev FYE. DD would have been inducted around 2006 or 2007 after 25 years. SO unless FYE means something else that's the wrong label. At this point Fiona Apple and Eminem are FYE for next year. Artists that emerged around 1996. Please please clarify. After that I'll discuss rest of the years listed. Hear from please and Merry Christmas

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 03:49am

Jordan,
Also what are your thoughts on my picks for Early Influence.
I am used to pre Rock musicians. FOLLOWER thought my view was reverse a couple weeks ago. The reality is I'm not ready to pick Early influence for more modern artists. He thought I had a problem with artists before we were born. I want them to be artists before we were born. Charly Patton is perfect. I was shaky with Kraftwerk as early influence. Here is my Very short list.

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

I just want to stop to elaborate on Peggy Lee. Certainly before my time. I had my Dad in mind with this one. RIP my Dad. Peggy Lee I recall was rather huge in the 50s. Mostly Pre Rock. I think. The main tune I know is Fever. I haven't googled Peggy Lee. I know that Fever was a hit in 1958. I presume that she started quite a bit before that. I can use my Dad's music for ideas on Early Influence. My Dad loved the entire decade of the 1950s. This includes all of the early 1950s. My Dad talked about the hit Parade on the Radio.

I would not pick Sparks at this moment. I'm just adjusting to a modern time frame for EI. Just exactly what is the time frame for EI in the early 2020's? I am taking priority to the Pre Rock acts for this. Hear from ya.
What do you think about my picks?

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 05:16am

Ben,

Your picks on early influence are great & i get what you're saying about the Category itself. Also, my fault for making a mistake on Duran Duran, i meant to type in FYN not E. I didn't even know & wasn't even paying attention.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 14:25pm

I'm going to have to give Motley Crue serious consideration on my Final 2022 KING RRHOF Nomination List.
Motley Crue has received strong support on the kiosk every year. There are many music fans that want to see them nominated and inducted. Some astute FRL posters here have brought up good points about the Ceremony being held in Los Angeles. Motley Crue an LA band would probably help sell the venue out very quickly if inducted. With Iron Maiden and Judas Priest failing to be inducted, Motley Crue is 1 of the next legitimate metal bands to be nominated. Bon Jovi and Def Leppard have been inducted recently. Motley Crue would finish out that 80's trifecta. X is another LA band that springs to mind. I don't know if X will receive a nomination. Rage Against The Machine also would be another choice. I was going over some music songs of potential RRHOF nominees. Motley Crue scored very high. Girls, Girls, Girls, Kickstart My Heart, Looks That Kill, Shout At The Devil, Too Young To Fall In Love, Wild Side etc. They have influenced many later hard rock and metal bands and have sold over 100 million records. I could see the RRHOF doubling up with Iron Maiden and Motley Crue or Judas Priest and Motley Crue. It will be interesting how the RRHOF tackles this heavy metal backlog and Motley Crue in particular. Merry Christmas! KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 16:04pm

I'm going to list off acts/bands from Los Angeles that haven't been nominated/inducted into the Rock Hall yet and they are:

The Bangles
Beck
Black Flag
Captain Beefheart
The Carpenters
Jan & Dean
Jane's Addiction
Little Feat
Los Lobos
Megadeth
The Monkees
Motley Crue
No Doubt
The Offspring
Rage Against The Machine
The Runaways
Slayer
Snoop Dogg
Sparks
Steppenwolf
Three Dog Night
Tool
Toto
War
Weezer
"Weird Al" Yankovic

With the 2022 induction ceremony being in Los Angeles, Do you guys think that any of the bands/acts from LA could get nominated/inducted this year?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 16:18pm

Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 25, 2021- There are no more work days left for me during this year. There are only 6 days left in 2021. In approximately 27 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately 40 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in?


11. The B-52s:

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 17:53pm

Ben,

I am sorry that I had not responded to you sooner. I had been very busy with work until late Thursday afternoon and yesterday, I rested all day. I do agree that Duran Duran will receive their first nomination and induction-they will represent prog at the ceremony. I also think that it is quite likely that The Bangles will receive their first nomination, now that the Go-Gos have been inducted. Due to their huge popularity, Jethro Tull is the most likely early prog band to receive a nomination. The only problem that I foresee with their possible nomination is that the more critically beloved King Crimson may receive a nomination, instead. If Jethro Tull does finally receive a nomination, then I think that they may have to wait a year to get in. As you are well-aware, I have been a huge advocate for the inductions of both Sade and Carly Simon. I also think that Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo will return for a second nomination and this time- an induction. I think that The Monkees will finally receive their first nomination and a mostly posthumous induction. Dionne Warwick will return to the ballot once again and this time, she will join Tina Turner and Carole King as an inducted performer.

Therefore, these artists are the most likely performer inductees from my list:

The Bangles
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
Carly Simon
Sade
The Monkees
Dionne Warwick

Actually, I think that those 7 artists would definitely make a great class.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 18:27pm

Enig,
Hey there it's OK I've been busy with Work too. I guess a little less than you. I've been on here a bit. Hey NO worries. I knew you'd agree that Duran Duran will receive their first nomination and induction- Yes they will represent more modern prog at the ceremony. Let me be clear I've called DD New wave for 40 years. We also agree that it is quite likely that The Bangles will receive their first nomination, now that the Go-Gos have been inducted. I wonder who would induct the Bangles. Due to their huge popularity, Jethro Tull is the most likely early prog band to receive a nomination. You foresee a problem with their possible nomination due the more critically liked King Crimson. BUT in fact I think King Crimson will get Music Excellence. As for Jethro Tull yeah they have to wait for a second nomination. Tull was a very popular band in the 70s but Not as popular as Your MAIN trilogy of Prog. I think that's what you call it. All 3 of those are inducted.
I'm holding off on Sade but I am fully confident in Carly Simon.
Also I agree with Pat Benatar and the Monkees. The Monkees may get inducted in 2022. This way Mickey Dolenz is still alive

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 06:00am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Raichu, Matt J, Follower, dmg and others,

The latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast has just came out and Joe and Kristen made their predictions for the next five induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 11:15am

Richie,

Maybe replace Mariah Carey, The B - 52's & Soundgarden with Diana Ross, Judas Priest & RATM for 2022. As for 2023, replace Dionne Warwick, Foreigner, Cher & George Michael with Iron Maiden, Smashing Pumpkins, New York Dolls & Missy Elliott as it's going to be a mostly 60 - 80's driven class if it's like your prediction. For 2024, Switch The Smiths with Devo as the ceremony might be going back to Cleveland. Maybe replace RATM with Soundgarden as i stated for 2022, Eurythmics maybe they should wait for 2025. As for 2025, Jethro Tull would be inducted under Musical Excellence as the 70's would be closing it's doors maybe Robert Flack would be inducted under Early Influence (same could be said for Dionne Warwick). So my predictions for 2025 would be Sean Combs, The Smiths, Motley Crue, Lauryn Hill, A Tribe Called Quest & Beck. For 2026, i would be Pixies, Phil Collins, De La Soul, Britney Spears, Slayer & Sheryl Crow.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 14:29pm

My picks for 2022 are:

Duran Duran
Bily Idol

Posted by Fernando Belfiglio on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 15:34pm

Here's my dream version of what the class of 2022 ceremony would look like.

Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran (Warren Cuccurullo, Simon Le Bon, Nick Rhodes, Andy Taylor, John Taylor, Roger Taylor)
Eminem
Judas Priest (Les Brinks, KK Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, Scott Travis)
Rage Against the Machine (Tim Commerford, Zack Del la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk)
Diana Ross

Early Influence:
Sparks (Ron Mael, Russell Mael)
Big Mama Thornton
John Coltrane

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
King Crimson (Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Mel Collins, David Cross, Robert Fripp, Michael Giles, Greg Lake, Ian McDonald, Peter Sinfield, John Wetton)
Hubert Sumlin

Presenters:
Martina McBride
Brandon Flowers of The Killers
Elton John
Eddie Trunk
Mike Shinoda
Madonna
Martin Gore of Depeche Mode
Brittany Howard of Alabama Shakes
Jon Batiste
Stevie Wonder
Geddy Lee of Rush
Keith Richards

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 21:13pm

KING, Motley Crue are, unfortunately, Banned For Life from the Hall. I think they will get serious consideration after the last remaining member passes on.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 06:42am

The idea that Motley Crue are banned from the hall comes from bassist Nikki Sixx. If anyone affiliated with the hall said something, I'd be more inclined to believe it.

Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 14:21pm

Hey Guys,

May I ask you a couple of questions:

Which acts do you guys think would get in the first time that they are nominated?.

Which previously nominated acts do you guys think would get in the next time that they are nominated?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 21:51pm

Jordan,
Just so you know i have this rule that I never predict inductees until the official nominees. Now that the Special categories are more Vital I will say that My rule only applies to Performers. The Voters vote on those.
I can predict the Special categories with No problem. Those are Not voted on.
But I will say that your dream class of Performers is awesome. Just don't jump the gun myself. Then again its a wish list.
Your picks for Early I category are very good. Not too bad. Heyy I love John Coltrane. I may have even inspired you there. One of the greatest Jazz legends of all time.
I guess Sparks is like the Kraftwerk pick. I can see it. But I hold off cause I'm not ready to pick Post 1970 artists.
Your Big Mama Thornton pick is great. But I went with others.

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 05:47am

Follower, I have no idea whether or not they actually are. I used to love to say it to wind up The Dude.

Would think though: Would you really want Motley Crue in your Hall? The actual people?

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 06:35am

Paul in KY,
I haven't discussed anything with since my Coverage of Older rock hall classes. As far as Motley Crue. Shout at the Devil and Theater of Pain were rather good. Those were the breathroughs of their career. The hit Dr.Feelgood is really good too. But as far as the actual people, Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, etc, the Hall probably doesn't want M Crue in their Hall. The guys of Def Leppard and Judas Priest are considered much more respectable. Def Leppard is already inducted as we know. And I realize that Priest still stand a good chance. But NOT the Crue. A lot of other Metal bands will be inducted first

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 09:49am

Paul in KY,

Everyone is fair game if Percy Sledge is in. So yeah Motley Crue no problems or qualms with.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 13:38pm

Percy Sledge didn't kill anyone. Vince Neil did.

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 14:32pm

I have no problem with MC being considered for induction, but when you have Judas Priest, Motorhead, Thin Lizzy & Iron Maiden still waiting for the inside from outside for an honor, then the Crue have to wait a while for their turn & it's not looking too great unfortunately. I mean Guns N' Roses, Bon Jovi & Def Leppard were inducted before any of them but i digress.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 18:23pm

RG, Plebeian and Greg F,

Who do you see being the 2022 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 22:04pm

Jordan,
Exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm fine with Motley Crue being considered for induction. First of all Judas Priest, Motorhead, Thin Lizzy, I Maiden and also Queensryche are all respected more as people than M Crue. And also these are even more essential to the Heavy Metal scene. This means the Crue will be waiting their turn for a long while. GnR, Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were all inducted first because they are Hard Rock NOT Heavy Metal. All 3 of those had huge Top 10 hits. I personally think Now that Judas Priest would be first in line with Heavy Metal bands. As you pointed out they have already been nominated. This indicates that the Hall is trying to get a few heavy metal bands in. The Voting body isn't as traditional as it used to be. There is now Heavy Metal musicians and experts that are Voters now. Just a few of those Voters are Ozzy, James Hetfield and Eddie Trunk. That's everything I want to say about Heavy Metal in the Hall. 1970s and 80s metal is what the Hall would start with as a way of catching up. By the way I'm not a Heavy Metal expert. I own certain Old Heavy Metal albums. Any Metal I own is before 1992. As far as this scene goes. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 02:52am

The monkees. debbie Gibson tiffany nkotb these are my nomations

Posted by Jenni M Vansteenburgh on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 09:36am

Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is December 29, 2021. There are only 2 days left in 2021. In approximately 21 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately 36 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility."

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

Here are the other 10:


11. The B-52s

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

20. John Prine

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 11:22am

Today I would like to share my list of artists & bands that won't or shouldn't be considered for induction for RRHOF. I'll explain my reasons why.

Bad Company - A borderline act that has one member people cared about & I don't see any overall influence from them. Give Paul Rodgers a Musical Excellence Award.

Rainbow - I can't find anything remarkable about them other than Ritchie Blackmore being a founding member & Ronnie James Dio as a former frontman. Give RJD a induction for Musical Excellence as well. It took Deep Purple 20+ years & 3 nominations to get inducted & I seriously doubt Rainbow will ever receive nomination let alone inducted plus DP are game changers & had defined the Metal genre unlike Rainbow & also Whitesnake. With that said not all inducted members of DP should be inducted twice.

Styx - Yeah they have platinum albums but that doesn't matter, they haven't inspired anymore noteworthy.

Boston - They have this one huge album that anymore cared about & they released their albums sporadically after their second album.

Ted Nugent - I don't get why he should be considered for induction, he hasn't done anything remarkable throughout his career & he certainly didn't inspire anyone noteworthy.

Any hair metal bands except Motley Crue - MC should be the only hair metal band to be considered. The rest of the acts are not going to be nominated.

Meat Loaf - One huge album anyone cared about & he's nowhere on the same level as Elton John, David Bowie & Elvis Costello.

REO Speedwagon - Same exact reasons as Boston, Bad Company & Styx.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 12:46pm

Jordan Einstein,

Interesting thoughts, but on the one album wonder thing for Meat Loaf and Boston. How do you explain Sex Pistols, Carole King, N.W.A., The Go-Go's who are in the Hall? Not to knock you down, but could you elaborate a little more on that? The rest I understand.

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 13:45pm

Jordan,
I see where you're coming from on these and I agree with most. The only one I disagree with is Bad Company. It is true that they are an act that has one member people care about. But the same can be said about acts like Blondie, ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music. So it has already happened. But I agree that all the others won't be considered. REO Speedwagon, Boston and even Styx will not be considered. I say even Styx because I like some music from Styx but this does not make them worthy of the Hall. I don't mind Grad Illusion at all. But they too have not inspired anyone noteworthy, Now there is Arena rock bands to be considered, Foreigner could be considered for induction. and so could Toto. But you did Not mention them. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:12pm

Plebeian,

Well the reason why those 4 artists are inducted is mostly because they pretty much made history in popular music. The Sex Pistols defined British punk & have influenced pretty much everyone from Alternative to Rap all with releasing only one album. N.W.A. not only defined rap but also changed it with their lyrics & style. The Go - Go's made history as they're the first female band to write their own songs & play instruments & also they're a first female act to hit #1. Carole King mostly because people praised her songwriting skills in which she got already inducted as a SONGWRITER so I don't see why she got inducted for a second time since she's only known for it. I get why Pistols, N.W.A & The Go's are inducted but not King.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:17pm

I hate that there is No edit function on this site.
I will make a small correction. I was saying I like some music from Styx. I don't mind Grand Illusion at all and also I don't mind Pieces of Eight. But they too have not inspired anyone noteworthy, Now as I said there is Arena rock bands to be considered.. See my Post above

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:56pm

I get Jordan's points. However, if your stance is the likes of BC and Boston not being considered, there are a glut, a literal GLUT of 70s rocker bands that are in, that you literally could say the same thing about that was mentioned about BC. Just off the top of my head, in recent years, the Doobies, Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, just to name a few. I would preface that Paul Rodgers has been huge in the rock community for 5 decades, and yes, a case could be made for ME, but Bad Company was a mere collaboration of great artists when they began as a "supergroup", which is a term I occasionally find deriding, as though they aren't a real band, and turned themselves into very much one of the most appreciated and enduring rock bands of the last quarter century of the 1900s. You aren't making bad points, it's just the precedent of having such groups as BC, Boston and even REO Speedwagon has already happened, and given the body of membership for the RRHOF, these could be considered favorites by their contemporaries already in. Try as we might, it really is never going to be the Hall of the elite. And there is no satisfying the masses in any way you go universally.

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 16:20pm

Ben,

Styx is not a bad group & i get why people loved them but when it comes to chances of induction i don't see that happening anytime soon. But i see there's a petition for their consideration, let's be honest just because they're fan petitions for wanting artists being inducted doesn't guarantee it.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 19:26pm

Jordan,
I do agree. I mentioned Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight because I know and owned those 2 albums a few decades ago. I was Not a huge fan at all but I knew Styx, . But I totally agree. Not every old band should be in the Hall. In fact Ive told friends that Styx will be inducted around 2040 or after or Never. You didnt mention Foreigner and Toto. SO I guess you find those more possible. Toto was a band of very respected musicians such as Jeff Porcaro. I think thats his name. I'm glad we covered some of these arena pop rock bands

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 20:03pm

Ben,

Well to be honest, i don't mind if Foreigner & Toto gets a nod. Maybe they should be inducted under AME especially Toto since they were also session musicians.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 21:34pm

I'm inclined to believe Bad Company will be inducted. Paul Rodgers is an important musician in rock history. Gifted guitarist, pianist, and singer. Bad Company 1st 5 albums moved inside the Top 20. Some were in the Top 5. Most of those were gold or platinum. They returned Bad Company in the 1980's with Brian Howe as Singer. More chart success. Gold albums and a platinum one. It shows the strength of the band. Many groups couldn't continue without a singer as great as Paul Rodgers. He returned to the group later. I can see a Musical Excellence
for Paul Rodgers as a possibility when you take into Bad Company, Free, The Firm and some of his solo work. My guess his best chance is with Bad Company. Styx I think will be inducted someday. Dennis DeYoung & Tommy Shaw were 2 highly gifted musicians as well as the rest of the band. They had a string of platinum albums. I think time has proven that Mr. Roboto was a visionary concept and innovative for its time. I like the song Too Much Time On My Hands. Foreigner will definitely be inducted. I think The Cars, The Doobie Brothers, and Cheap Trick were more of a priority at the time. Gramm & Jones are in the Songwriting HOF. Still surprised Dire Straits was nominated and inducted out of the blue. Not many saw that coming. Boston could get a Musical Excellence Award. They don't have the depth of discography like Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Yet The Go-Go's were inducted with only a few albums. The depth of discography and longevity important to KING. It shows the staying power and talent to navigate through many musical fads and changing popularity. KING

Posted by KING on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 23:13pm

Here my Predications of Nominees of next year Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame


A Tribe Called Quest

Billy Idol

Blink 182

Dionne Warwick

Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Eric B. & Rakim

Eurythmics

Gram Parsons

Iron Maiden

John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers

John Prine

Kate Bush

King Crimson

Little Feat

Love

Mary J. Blige

MC5

The Monkees

Motley Crue

Motorhead

New York Dolls

Pat Benater

Procol Harum

The Replacements

Rufus and Chaka Khan

Salt N Pepa

Sonic Youth

Soundgarden

Steppenwolf

Steve Winwood

Thin Lizzy

War


Senior Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Nominees

Billy Ward and the Dominoes

Big Mama Thornton

Blind Lemon Jefferson

Chubby Checker

Chuck Willis

Ella Fitzgerald

Johnny Ace

Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio

Link Wray

The Marvelettes

Patsy Cline

The Spinners

Posted by Dan Windler on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 00:24am

Jordan,
Look at that you don't mind if Foreigner & Toto gets an induction. I thought perhaps. Those musicians are known for their impressive careers. AME which must be A Music Excellence is good for Toto. AME is A Music Excellence Right??

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 02:39am

Dan Windler,

Your predictions are cool but you're forgetting that Eminem is the only guarantee for 2022. It means he'll be a lock for induction. By your predictions, the ones i might see get inducted are:

A Tribe Called Quest
Mary J. Blige
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Sonic Youth
War

BTW your way over the limit of 15 or 16 possible nominees for induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 04:32am

That's correct Ben.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 04:33am

Jordan,
We are in agreement a lot. It seems like you are an original Veteran person of music. I was born in 1965. And sooo I grew up with lots and lots of 70s and early 80s music. You seem to be around my age but it is soo hard to tell. There are some incredible experts like richie that are in their 20s and know a tremendous amount. Google makes things easier. There was no Internet and Google back in the late 70s. I learned a lot on the radio. I'm curious. You got awesome knowledge. You seem to be born 1964-1972

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 06:19am

Ben,

Well i'm a lot younger than you but i did learn history of rock & roll through articles by music historians & watching documentaries. Thanks & you too as well.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 06:25am

Jordan,
I see. Ok you are a lot younger. Well like I said its hard to tell. Well we got a lot to chat about. I can tell ya about a lot of bands first hand. I was there. I was certainly NOT at Woodstock and certainly did NOT see the Doors, Cream, etc Live either. I was like 3 during their heyday. But I was there for the rise of Fleetwood Mac, Aerosmith, Rush Journey. Styx, Foreigner, and soo many others. Hey I saw Rush in Dec 1982 when I was 17. That gives you a quick idea of my original era. Aerosmith and Rush certainly deserve their inductions. So do Journey. I was happy when these 3 were inducted. I would say Styx will either never be inducted or after 2040. Dennis De Young and Tommy Shaw will probably have passed by 2040 I figure. Foreigner and Toto will very likely be inducted way before that. Possibly by 2030. I make zany predictions sometimes. Priority will go much more to acts like the Bangles, Duran Duran, Pat Benatar, Billy Idol and DIana Ross. There won't be too much room for Arena pop rock bands in the near future.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 07:26am

I wonder how the newer inductees would place here: https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html

Posted by Follower on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 13:09pm

Hey Jordan Einstein,

I would like your opinion on my Rock Hall Inductees tier list. I showed this to the others a year ago, but I would like you thoughts too.

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

1986:
Chuck Berry-S
Sam Cooke-S
Elvis Presley-S
James Brown and the Famous Flames-S
Little Richard-S
Buddy Holly and the Crickets-S
Ray Charles-S
Fats Domino-A
The Everly Brothers-A
Jerry Lee Lewis-A


1987:

Aretha Franklin-S
Muddy Waters-S
Marvin Gaye-S
Roy Orbison-S
Bo Diddley-S
Eddie Cochran-A
Big Joe Turner-A
Smokey Robinson and
the Miracles-A
Jackie Wilson-A
B.B. King-A
Carl Perkins-B
The Coasters-B
Bill Haley and the Comets-B
Clyde McPhatter-C

1988:
The Beatles-S
Bob Dylan-S
The Beach Boys-S
The Supremes-S
The Drifeters-A

1989:
The Rolling Stones-S
Stevie Wonder-S
The Temptations-S
Otis Redding-S
Dion-C

1990:
The Who-S
Simon and Garfunkel-S
The Kinks-S
Four Tops-A
The Four Seasons-B
Bobby Darin-C
The Platters-C
Hank Ballard and the Midnighters-D

This is just part one the others will come as soon as possible.

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 14:50pm

*The Drifters

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 14:52pm

Plebeian,
I remember this list of yours. I can't believe it's been a year. I won't be doing MY Reviews of Old classes I did a year ago. That's more tedious I think than yours. Soo I will review some ones on your list. At least for awhile. I'll skip the first few years. I'll start with 1990. This class got my attention back in 1990 because my favorite band of all time was inducted, the Who. I've mentioned that this is my favorite before. They have been my favorite band for about 40 years. This is the band I own every album from and also a bunch of compilations. The Who were bound to be inducted immediately. This drew my attention for the Hall for the first time. It wasn't just a Hall for the 50s. This was the powerful Who. Those 4 original guys Roger D, Pete Townsend, John Entwistle and Keith Moon. What can I say I love the Who. Of course they in the S category. But so are Simon & Garfunkel and the Kinks. I guess the Four Tops are A-Almost Legendary. One of the best Motown groups. I really don't know Hank Ballard and the Midnighters. I guess they are down at D. I'll take your word for it. My knowledge only goes back as far as the Who, the Stones, the Doors and all the rest of the 60s. I think Hank Ballard and the M's had hits in the 50s. I have never looked them up. I'll follow this for awhile. I won't share too many thoughts you are focused on Jordan's thoughts. I'm sure he will Post on this soon

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 16:47pm

Plebeian,

I got to say your tier list is actually accurate, although i would give Carl Perkins an A but the rest of them are spot on. I also did number ratings on past inductees of each class expect the first five before. I'll show you, i'll be right back.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 16:58pm

Plebeian, here's class of 2021.

Ratings:
10/10 = The Immortals
9/10 = Legendary/Iconic
8/10 = No Brainers
7/10 = Proven Performers
6/10 = Best of the Rest
5/10 = Average/Borderline
4/10 = Not terrible but undeserving
3/10 = Marginal
2/10 = Mediocre
1/10 = Not Legendary/Iconic
0/10 = Not Immortals


Foo Fighters: 8/10
They're one of the most important bands that ever came out & they are still relevant to this day. Dave Grohl is probably one of the most recognizable figures in rock & roll performing with countless of legends alike.

The Go - Go's: 7/10
They were the first female band that have written their own songs & play their own instruments, they inspired any female rockers to do the same. It wouldn't be who they are if it weren't for Belinda Carlisle, Charlotte Caffrey, Gina Schlock, Jane Wiedlin & Kathy Valentine.

Jay - Z: 10/10
A genius that has the most influence & popularity since 2Pac & Biggie, he won a lot of accolades & achievements & influenced acts such as Kanye West, Drake, Kendrick Lamar etc. Also he's a most successful businessman in music.

Carole King: 5/10
She's been regarded as one of the most important singer - songwriters of all time. Written many hits for other artists & she stands on her own as Tapestry became one of the most important albums of all time. The rest of her solo work is not as outstanding & remarkable but she's one of the best.

Todd Rundgren: 6/10
A talented songwriter & producer in his own right. His innovations & influence can not be ignored as those traits. He worked with countless of artists while having such albums like Something/Anything? He should have receive induction for Musical Excellence but oh well.

Tina Turner: 10/10
She simply the best. She's a Queen of Rock & Roll as Aretha Franklin was a Queen of Soul. Her influence & impact is so hard to ignore & she's instantly stood out on her own & that's what became her a 2x inductee along with King & Grohl. I bet there's going to be a excellent tribute at the ceremony this fall.

What do you think? I have more to share.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:07pm

Besides Eminem, Which other acts do you guys see being inducted this year in 2022?.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:17pm

I don't know it would depend on who's on the ballot. Can you wait until the nominees come out before asking about who we see getting inducted again?

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:54pm

Richie, here's my only predictions so far for 2022.

Performers:
Pat Benatar (most likely would be inducted following her second nomination)
Duran Duran (possible FYN inductee)
Judas Priest (if they don't get inducted following their possible 3rd nomination then they likely would be inducted under AME & i'll choose Slade or New York Dolls as a replacement.)
Rage Against the Machine (N.W.A did get inducted following 3 possible nominations so it could work for RATM)
Diana Ross (would be next female act to get inducted twice after Tina & Carole)

I hope we might see british being represented once again by next year since this year's class doesn't have any of them & it's the first time since 2013 that it happened.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:00pm

I have to agree with Greg F on this one Richie, why not wait until the nominees are announced or coming close to it & then we would discuss on who's getting inducted. I'm not going to make any more predictions until it happens either late January or early February.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:12pm

In fact, i'm not going to be following as much by the new year since i'm focusing on life right now.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:25pm

Jordan,
I do agree. As I said I have a rule of not discussing Inductees until the Nominees are officially announced and known.
Jordan, Just so you know i have this rule that I never predict inductees until the official nominees. it's easier that way. Too many unknowns. I will also have a short recess after the New Year starts

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 20:26pm

This is who I'd like to see getting inducted in 2022.

Kate Bush
Joy Division/New Order
Pat Benatar
Judas Priest
Cher
The Flying Burrito Brothers/Gram Parsons
Sparks
Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus)

Musical Influence

Big Mama Thornton
The Carter Family
Memphis Minnie

Musical Excellence:

Toto
The J.B's
The Meters

Non-Performer

Don Cornelius
Ed Sullivan
Casey Kasem

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 21:15pm

Here is part 2 Jordan
S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

1991:

The Byrds-A
John Lee Hooker-A
Ike and Tina Turner-B
Wilson Pickett-B
Jimmy Reed-B
The Impressions-C
LaVern Baker-D

1992:

The Jimi Hendrix Experience-S
Johnny Cash-S
The Yardbirds-B
The Isley Brothers-B
Sam and Dave-C
Bobby Blue' Bland-C
Booker T. And the M.G.'s-D

1993:

The Doors-S
Creedence Clearwater Revival-S
Sly and the Family Stone-A
Van Morrison-A
Cream-A
Etta James-B
Ruth Brown-C
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers-D

1994:

John Lennon-S
Elton John-S
Bob Marley-S
The Band-A
Grateful Dead-A
The Animals-A
Rod Stewart-B
Duane Eddy-C

1995:

Led Zeppelin-S
Neil Young-S
Janis Joplin-A
Frank Zappa-A
The Allman Brothers Band-A
Al Green-A
Martha and the Vandellas-B

1996:

Pink Floyd-S
David Bowie-S
The Velvet Underground-S
Jefferson Airplane-A
The Shirelles-B
Gladys Knight and the Pips-C
Little Willie John-C

1997:

Joni Mitchell-A
Crosby, Stills, and Nash-A
Bee Gees-A
Parliament-Funkadelic -A
The Jackson 5-B
Buffalo Springfield-C
The (Young) Rascals-C

1998:

Fleetwood Mac-A
Eagles-A
Santana-A
The Mamas and the Papas-C
Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps-C
Lloyd Price-D

1999:

Bruce Springsteen and
the E Street Band-S
Billy Joel-A
Paul McCartney-B
Curtis Mayfield-B
Dusty Springfield-B
The Staple Singers-C
Del Shannon-D

Part 3 and 4 will show up later on New Year's Eve

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 21:44pm

Generational fun fact regarding inductees:

There were 23 years between the induction of the first Baby Boomer (Stevie Wonder) and the first Xer (Various people in 2012, including Slash, Mike D, and John Frusciante). Meanwhile, there were 8 years between these people and the first Millennial inductee (Ilan Rubin).

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 02:59am

Greg F,
I like your list. But I change half for mine. A wish list is fine to have. I am replacing Kate Bush and Joy Division/New Order with Jethro Tull and the Monkees. I would love to see both those in the Hall right away. Also the Bangles and Emerson, Lake and Palmer on a wish list of mine. Your other 4 are perfect and terrific for mine. I am now listening to Big Mama Thornton. I have mulled her over as Early I. I read about but Listening Now. Also I will listen to the Meters. I know them a little

Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 03:03am

Looks like Ted Nugent had some harsh words for the Rock Hall: https://variety.com/2021/music/news/ted-nugent-rails-against-rock-hall-of-fame-patti-smith-madonna-1235144878/

Posted by Garrick on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 08:54am

Part 3 Jordan Einstein

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

2000:

Eric Clapton-A (Very Deserving of his 3-timer status)
Earth, Wind, and Fire-B
James Taylor-B
Bonnie Raitt-C
The Lovin' Spoonful-D
The Monnglows-D

2001:

Michael Jackson-S
Queen-S
Aerosmith-A
Steely Dan-A
Paul Simon-B
Solomon Burke-C
Ritchie Valens-D
The Flamingos-D

2002:

Ramones-S
Talking Heads-A
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers-A
Isaac Hayes-C (Hey, Chef!)
Brenda Lee-C
Gene Pitney-D

2003:

The Clash-S
The Police-A
Elvis Costello and the Attractions-A
AC/DC-A
The Righteous Brothers-C

2004:

Prince-S
ZZ Top-B
George Harrison-C
Jackson Browne-C
Bob Seger-C
The Dells-D

2005:

U2-S
Buddy Guy-B
Pretenders-C
The O'Jays-C
Percy Sledge-D

2006:

Black Sabbath-S
Miles Davis-S
Blondie-A
Sex Pistols-A
Lynyrd Skynyrd-B

2007:

R.E.M.-S
Van Halen-A
Patti Smith-B
Grandmaster Flash and
the Furious Five-C
The Ronettes-C

2008:

Madonna-S
Leonard Cohen-B
John Mellencamp-C
The Ventures-C
The Dave Clark Five-D

2009:

Metallica-S
Run-DMC -A
Jeff Beck-C
Bobby Womack-C
Little Anthony and the Imperials-D

Part 4 will be done as quickly as possible

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:09pm

*Moonglows

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:10pm

Plebeian,

I mostly agree on your tier list part 2. If i make that list it would be like this.

1991:
Lavern Baker - C
The Byrds - S
John Lee Hooker - A
The Impressions - B
Wilson Pickett - A
Jimmy Reed - A
Ike & Tina Turner - A

1992:
Bobby "Blue" Bland - C
Johnny Cash - S
Jimi Hendrix Experience - S
The Isley Brothers - A
Booker T & The M.G's - B
Sam & Dave - B
The Yardbirds - A

1993:
Ruth Brown - A
Cream - A
CCR - A
The Doors - S
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers - C
Etta James - A
Van Morrison - S
Sly & The Family Stone - S

1994:
The Animals - A
The Band - S
Duane Eddy - C
The Grateful Dead - S
Elton John - S
John Lennon - S
Bob Marley - S
Rod Stewart - B

1995:
The Allman Brothers Band - A
Al Green - A
Janis Joplin - S
Led Zeppelin - S
Martha & The Vandellas
Neil Young - S
Frank Zappa - A

1996:
David Bowie - S
Gladys Knight & The Pips - B
Jefferson Airplane - A
Little Willie John - C
Pink Floyd - S
The Shirelles - A
The Velvet Underground - S

1997:
Bee Gees - A
Buffalo Springfield - C
Crosby, Stills & Nash - B
The Jackson 5 - A
Joni Mitchell - A
P Funk - S
The (Young) Rascals - C

1998:
Eagles - A
Fleetwood Mac - B
The Mamas & The Papas - C
Lloyd Price - D
Santana - B
Gene Vincent - A

1999:
Billy Joel - A
Curtis Mayfield - A
Paul McCartney - B
Del Shannon - D
Dusty Springfield - B
Bruce Springsteen - S
The Staple Singers - A

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:46pm

I don't see Martha and the Vandellas ranking.

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:00pm

Plebeian,

Here's my own tier list.

2000:
Eric Clapton - A
Earth, Wind & Fire - A
The Lovin Spoonful - D
The Moonglows - C
Bonnie Raitt - B
James Taylor- A

2001:
Aerosmith - A
Solomon Burke - B
The Flamingos - C
Michael Jackson - S
Queen - S
Paul Simon - B
Steely Dan - A
RItchie Valens - B

2002:
Isaac Hayes - B
Brenda Lee - C
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - A
Gene Pitney - D
Ramones - S
Talking Heads - A

2003:
AC/DC - A
The Clash - S
Elvis Costello & The Attractions - A
The Police - S
Righteous Brothers - B

2004:
Jackson Browne - B
The Dells - D
George Harrison - B
Prince - S
Bob Seger - B
Traffic - B
ZZ Top - B

2005:
Buddy Guy - A
The O'Jays - B
The Pretenders - B
Percy Sledge - D
U2 - S

2006:
Black Sabbath - S
Blondie - A
Miles Davis - S
Lynyrd Skynyrd - B
Sex Pistols - A

2007:
Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five - A
R.E.M - S
The Ronettes - C
Patti Smith - A
Van Halen - A

2008:
The DC5 - C
Leonard Cohen - B
Madonna - S
John Mellencamp - B
The Ventures - B

2009:
Jeff Beck - B
Little Anthony & The Imperials - B
Metallica - S
Run DMC - S
Bobby Womack - B

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:04pm

Martha & The Vandellas - B

My bad, wasn't even paying attention.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:07pm

Here is part 4 Jordan Einstein and I hope you have a great New Year's Day or Eve!!

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

2011:

Alice Cooper-B
Tom Waits-B
Neil Diamond-C
Darlene Love-D
Dr. John-D

2012:

Beastie Boys-A
Guns N' Roses-A
Red Hot Chili Peppers-A
Donovan-C
Small Faces/Faces-D
Laura Nyro-D

2013:

Public Enemy-S
Rush-A
Donna Summer-B
Albert King-B
Randy Newman-C
Heart-C

2014:

Nirvana-S
Peter Gabriel-B
KISS-B
Cat Stevens (also known as Yusuf)-C
Hall and Oates-C
Linda Ronstadt-C

2015:

Green Day-A
Stevie Ray Vaughan and
Double Trouble-B
Lou Reed-B
Bill Withers-C
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band-D
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts-D

2016:

N.W.A.-A
Deep Purple-A
Cheap Trick-C
Chicago-C
Steve Miller-C

2017:

Pearl Jam-S
2Pac-S
Yes-B
Electric Lights Orchestra-C
Journey-C
Joan Baez-C

2018:

Nina Simone-A
The Cars-B
Dire Straits-C
The Moody Blues-C
Bon Jovi-C

2019:

Radiohead-S
The Cure-A
Roxy Music-A
Janet Jackson-B
The Zombies-C
Def Leppard-C
Stevie Nicks-D

2020:

The Notorious B.I.G.-S
T. Rex-A
Depeche Mode-A
Nine Inch Nails-A
Whitney Houston-B
The Doobie Brothers-C

2021:

Jay-Z -S
Foo Fighters-B
Tina Turner-C
Todd Rundgren-C
Carole King-C
The Go-Go's-C

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 15:50pm

Plebeian,

2010:
ABBA - B
Jimmy Cliff - C
Genesis - B
The Hollies - D
The Stooges - A

2011:
Alice Cooper - B
Neil Diamond - B
Dr. John - C
Darlene Love - D
Tom Waits - A

2012:
Beastie Boys - S
Donovan - B
Guns N' Roses - A
Laura Nyro - D
RHCP - A
The Small Faces - C

2013:
Heart - B
Albert King - A
Randy Newman - B
Public Enemy - S
Rush - B
Donna Summer - A

2014:
Peter Gabriel - A
Hall & Oates - B
Kiss - B
Nirvana - S
Linda Ronstadt - B
Cat Stevens - C

2015:
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - D
Green Day - A
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - C
Lou Reed - B
SRV & Double Trouble - B
Bill Withers - B

2016:
Cheap Trick - C
Chicago - C
Deep Purple - B
Steve Miller - D
N.W.A - A

2017:
Joan Baez - C
ELO - C
Journey - D
Pearl Jam - A
2Pac - S
Yes - B

2018:
Bon Jovi - D
The Cars - B
Dire Straits - C
The Moody Blues - C
Nina Simone - A

2019:
The Cure - A
Def Leppard - C
Janet Jackson - A
Stevie Nicks - D
Radiohead - S
Roxy Music - A
The Zombies - C

2020:
Depeche Mode - B
The Doobie Brothers - C
Whitney Houston - A
Nine Inch Nails - A
Notorious B.I.G - A
T. Rex - B

2021:
Foo Fighters - B
The Go Go's - B
Jay Z - S
Carole King - C
Todd Rundgren - B
Tina Turner - A

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 18:03pm

It seems that every couple years when the inductees are announced, We get a shocking omission for that year's class, For 2016, It was Janet Jackson, For 2018, It was Radiohead and for 2020, It was Pat Benatar, So, Do you guys think Eminem could be the shocking omission when this year's inductees are announced?. All in all, He is a very controversial and polarizing figure and controversial acts often need multiple nominations to get in (N.W.A, The Stooges, Black Sabbath, The Sex Pistols), So do you guys think that Eminem could be the shocking omission of this year's class when this year's inductees are announced?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 18:12pm

Richie,

No Eminem's pretty much a lock & an only guarantee for 2022 induction, he's so influential to be passed over. The reason why Radiohead didn't get inducted in their FYE is mostly because they were touring & they scheduled a performance on the day of 2018 induction so that's why it only took them a year to get in. Pat Benatar didn't get it is because while she has influence, i don't consider her a game changer nor a groundbreaker, plus by then she couldn't get inducted before Tina Turner. For Janet Jackson, maybe it's because the Hall is having problems with women being inducted so that's why it took her so long.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 20:28pm

I think that The Troggs should be inducted. They really helped shaped Rock and Roll.

Posted by Patrick Stipe on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 07:56am

I'm going to assume he's kidding, but Wild Thing should be in the songs section...

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 12:30pm

Interesting takes Jordan Einstein though I have a question.

Why Bon Jovi, Journey, and Steve Miller low? Not to say they are low for a reason, but curious why those 3 are D.

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 13:35pm

Only a month left

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 14:39pm

So, my goal for the short term of this month, since I am a list fiend, is to make a list of my personal choices for HOF rankings from 1 to 240-something. This is not meant to be a comprehensive list, as there is a fair chunk of the populace I am not as familiar with, particularly many of the 50s-60s acts, but it will be a fun undertaking. If requested, I will post a top 50 or complete list here once I finish. It won't be analytical, just a list. Not meant to offend anyone, just my preferences.

Happy New Year, all!

Posted by K Dawg on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 15:47pm

As I said last time Plebeian's rankings were revealed, I don't think someone who had hits in 4 different decades should be D tier.

And like Michael W. said on his version, Bon Jovi are too big for the D tier.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 19:27pm

PERFORMER
Canned Heat
King Crimson
Pat Benatar
Procol Harum
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Styx
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
Asia
Toto
Queensryche
Anthrax
Slayer
Pantera
Rage Against the Machine
Jefferson Starship
The Alan Parsons Project
Bad Company
The Marshall Tucker Band
Dave Matthews Band
Jethro Tull
Kansas
Stray Cats
Billy Idol
The B-52's
Devo
America
Boston
Foreigner
Foghat
Stone Temple Pilots
The Smashing Pumpkins
The Smiths
New Order
Echo and the Bunnymen
The Psychedelic Furs
They Might Be Giants
Iron Maiden
Dio
Judas Priest
Whitesnake
Poison
Twisted Sister
Warrant
Great White
White Lion
Cinderella
The Sonics
George Thorogood and the Destroyers
Huey Lewis and the News
Robert Palmer
Steve Winwood
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Link Wray and His Wray Men
Iron Butterfly
Steppenwolf
Chic
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Chubby Checker

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Pete Best
Peter Green
Bob Welch

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
The Jeff Beck Group
Wings
The Belmonts
Crazy Horse
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention
Lou Rawls
Steve Miller Band

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
Ella Fitzgerald
Tommy Johnson

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 22:45pm

PERFORMERS PART 2
The Big Bopper
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Survivor
Loverboy
The Guess Who
Peter, Paul, and Mary
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
.38 Special
Eddie Money
Coolio
Warren Zevon

SPECIAL COMMITTEE PART 2
The Revolution

Note: Lou Rawls should be under Performers, not special committee. There is no edit feature.

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 22:54pm

Plebeian,

The reason why i put those 3 acts in the "D" ranking is because while they have popularity, they were never as influential & never considered as "game changers" nor "groundbreakers" like the most other inductees just those one trick ponies that had their music overplayed on the radio. Plus note for Steve Miller: other reason is because he's against his own induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 00:12am

Plebeian,
Happy New Year. I see you and Jordan went though all the tiers. They are both nice lists. I would have reviewed some myself but too extensive for me Right Now. You guys had the tiers under control. I will just say that ones like the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac I agree as you do with A. Most people would agree with Bruce Springsteen at S and Billy Joel at A. I also agree with Paul McCartney B. Paul McCartney as a solo performer should be B. He had some great albums with Wings like Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. But albums like Press to Play in the 80s are not legendary at all.
I'm using the 1999 class as an example. I agree with Del Shannon as D. His main hit was Runaway. He is a bit before my time but I've seen charts of the early 60s. He only had a few other hits overall.
Now then there is No need for me to go though your list too. As far as Eminem. I know very little about his music. NOT every guy in his mid 50s like me does. That's accurate. I will be 57. I'm sure many my age have heard Eminem. but it is fair to say many my age like me are not as aquainted with his music. But in fairness to a Newer generation than mine Eminem may be a lock. Even though I don't know his music he seems to be a huge influence. How's that. I don't know him well but i can see him as a lock. The Ramones were a lock right away from their era of the mid 70s. The same could be said with Eminem. That's what I think. I noticed Eminem was at the current ceremony in the LL Cool J segment. I;m curious about your current view on Eminem. Now Pat Benatar will surely be nominated this time. She is a popular woman of Rock. We will have to wait until the real nominees come

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 04:14am

I object to Steve Miller's induction, only for one reason. It should've been his whole band.

The announcement of the nominees comes this month?

Posted by K Dawg on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 11:40am

K Dawg:

To be fair, I think it would have been awfully difficult to do that. Looking at SMB's Wikipedia entry, they have 5 current members (including Miller himself) and 25 former members; it was like they had a completely different lineup for each of their first few albums and for each of their biggest songs. Which members do you include?

Posted by Joe S. on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 12:43pm

K Dawg,

Nominee announcement shouldnt be til mid-February, not sure where talk of this month came from.

Posted by RG on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 13:54pm

Well since the Hall is going to be announcing the nominees for 2022 inductions in February, here's who i certainly think should be the nominees.

A Tribe Called Quest (eligible since 2015, 1st nomination)
Beck (eligible since 2019, 1st nomination)
Big Star (eligible since 1998, 1st nomination)
Eminem (FYE, 1st nomination)
INXS (eligible since 2006, 1st nomination)
The Jam (eligible since 2003, 1st nomination)
Judas Priest (eligible since 2000, 3rd nomination)
King Crimson (eligible since 1995, 1st nomination)
Kool & The Gang (eligible since 1995, 1st nomination)
The Replacements (eligible since 2007, 2nd nomination)
The Runaways (eligible since 2002, 1st nomination)
Diana Ross (eligible since 1996, 1st nomination)
Carly Simon (eligible since 1997, 1st nomination)
The Smiths (eligible since 2009, 3rd nomination)
Soundgarden (eligible since 2012, 2nd nomination)
War (eligible since 1997, 4th nomination)

By my picks above, who do you think should be inducted?

Posted by Dougie Tokori on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 17:54pm

Jordan,
I want to say I agree with you on Eminem. I don't know his music at all. But I've read about his popularity. I figure he is a popular figure that represents a younger generation. I know my wife's Nephews who are about 30 right now Love Eminem. Immense popularity is a big factor for induction. Most of us whether fan or Not include him on our lists. There has been several controversial acts all through Rock history that were Inducted. Eminem is pretty much a lock.
I'll go in a different direction and mellow down with a discussion on Duran Duran for a minute, They should probably be inducted but I think it could take D Duran at least a couple nominations to get induction. They may go through the same thing as the Cars and the Cure. It's not a matter of controversy. It's a matter of votes. I thought we could start some chat on D Duran,

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/3/2022 @ 03:18am

Ben,

I think the reason why it took The Cure & The Cars (heck i'll include Depeche Mode) them multiple nominations is mostly because they were totally misunderstood & were not as legendary as the other New Wave & Post Punk legends like Talking Heads, The Police, Elvis Costello & Blondie in which they were inducted so quickly (although it took Blondie a few years to get in but whatever.) Don't get me wrong, those 3 bands (The Cure,Cars & DM) are very influential in their own right but that may be the reason. Maybe it could be the same problem with Duran Duran & i can see your point on them taking multiple nominations to get in but they haven't been so yet so we must wait & see.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/3/2022 @ 21:13pm

Jordan,
You do see my point. And you added to that by saying that The and the Cars were not as legendary as the other ones you said. I think the Hall wanted to get the biggest legends of New Wave inducted first. I happen to like the Talking Heads a lot by the way. The Cars were inducted much later on in 2018. They paved the way for the Cure and D Mode. We seem to agree with Duran Duran.
Now then I've changed my Early Influence picks again. Here they are.

Early Influence::
John Coltrane
Ella Fitzgerald
Dionne Warwick
I'll stick with these awhile. I put in Ella Fitzgerald because my Dad mentioned her a lot. Hey If I will be 57 then clearly My Dad grew up during the 50s and somewhat before. He talked a lot about Ella Fitzgerald. He spoke a whole lot about Classical and Ella Fitzgerald. I own a couple tunes by Ella. Her recordings date back to at least the late 1930's. And since she is a legend she is a Very good pick for E Influence. What are your thoughts? I am just not ready to pick a 1970s act for E Influence. This is the era Im used to for E Influence

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 03:27am

Jordan,
I in fact like Talking Heads, the Police and Blondie a lot. And I like a bit of Elvis Costello. I own a substantial amount from these 4. I was rather late in the game with the first wave of Classic bands. You know Gr Dead, Elton John, Led Zep, The Who, E Clapton, Steely Dan, etc etc. Soo it makes sense that I was a kind of early fan of Blondie and Talking Heads. Circa 1980. I was 15. This New save scene was great. A Flock of Seagulls and Duran Duran. The Flock have NO chance. Duran Duran do for sure.
There was a mania around them 1983-86. The Flock faded after a year. Ha have you heard of the Flock? They did I RAN and Space Age Love Song. The only 2 hits. I was NOT a FLOCK of SG fan. Duran Duran I liked. I own a bunch of their top hits.
I was never a fan of the Cure or Depeche Mode. But Depeche Mode especially had a large body of work. They are both NOT My bag at all. I leaned to VAN HALEN, Bon Jovi and Stevie Ray Vaughan.That's what I followed a lot in the actual 1980s

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 08:40am

I don't know if Duran Duran will get a nomination this year, but I do think they will be inducted the first time they are nominated, simply because they were significantly more popular than the the Cure or Depeche Mode were. Their level of mainstream success gives them better name recognition than those other new wave artists and would help them garner the votes they need. The only thing that would hold them back is if people use their popularity with teenage girls to dismiss them, but that would be a mistake. I'd like to see them get a nom this year and I think they've got a chance, but you never know.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 10:02am

The R&R hall of fame has missed opportunities to correct some wrongs in recent years and need to get some credibility back
here are some of my favorite artists and some glowing omissions from the Hall . In this day and age of " influencers " , tell me how the following do not make the cut .

The Pixies
Gram Parsons
Kate Bush
Captain Beefheart
Joy Division
Television ( the best of the CBGB bands , and only one not inducted )


Musical Excellence
Ry Cooder
Adrian Belew

Posted by Jesse on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 12:25pm

Michael W.,
Yeah I see what you mean. But keep in mind the Cars took 3 nominations to get inducted. The Cars were certainly very popular. Like I always say every year Let's wait for the real nominees. Duran Duran is a great nominee. But we have to see what really happens

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 16:12pm

Hello to all!

In just under a month's time, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee will release the names of who will be nominated by the end of this month for the RRHOF Class of 2022. Now, last year's inductions were quite significant. Not only were there 6 Performers inductees (or 7 when considering LL Cool J); 7 other artists and/or industry leaders got inducted in a massive expansion of other categories. Plus, the Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project played an important and crucial role in who would eventually get inducted. I feel similar events and ideals will be in play for the 2022 inductees. So, with that in mind, here is who I think will be nominated in the Performers category.

Diana Ross
Eminem
Kate Bush
Carly Simon
Lionel Richie and/or The Commodores
Chaka Khan and/or Rufus
Brian Eno
Nass
The Monkes
The Smashing Pumpkins
Dave Matthews Band
Sting
Mary J. Blige
Judas Priest
Sonic Youth
Eurythmics

Now, this might turn out to be completely wrong. However, I do think about maybe half of the artists listed will get nominated. In that regard, the likely to be nominated will possibly turn out to be:

Diana Ross
Eminem
Chaka Kahn and/or Rufus
The Monkes
Dave Matthews Band
Mary J. Blige
Judas Priest

Once again, those are the ones who I am pretty certain are going to be nominated. As of right now, I can only think of two virtual locks this year: Diana Ross and Eminem. It is quite obvious why Mr. Mathers will go in right on the first try. For Ms. Ross: we at Future Rock Legends voted her into the latest Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project with the most votes out of any nominee in any category. The year before, we did the same for Tina Turner; she got inducted into the actual RRHOF afterwards. And when you really think about it: Diana Ross was more than just her tenure in the Supremes. This oversight, which we at FRL corrected, will I hope to be corrected by the Nom Com later in the year.

As well, I am hoping that Sting can get inducted sooner rather than later, either in the Performers category or through a special recognition category. Same goes with Steve Winwood, who I think is a prime candidate for the Musical Excellence category. And I could see Sparks get at least considered in one category or another. It has been an impressive and brilliant past 20-odd months for the Mael Brothers. To my fellow posters: I suggest a double bill night of streaming The Sparks Brothers followed by Annette. Prepare to be amazed and have your eyes and ears open.

More to come, I think; so, stay tuned,

Lax39

Posted by Lax39 on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 20:35pm

Maybe I'm picking with my heart here but gunning for this to be the nominee list:

Dionne Warwick
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Carly Simon
Eminem
Cher
The B-52s
Eric B & Rakim
Rage Against the Machine
Judas Priest
Phish
Kool and The Gang
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar
Beck

Inductees

Eminem
Dionne Warwick
Jethro Tull
Cher
Kool and The Gang
Pat Benatar

If 7

The B-52s

Early/genre influence:

Big Mama Thornton
MC5
The Carter Family

Musical Excellence:

The Meters
Willie Nelson
Chaka Khan
Carol Kaye

NP

Brian Eno
Rick Rubin

Posted by Tom H. on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 21:27pm

Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 5, 2021. In approximately 20 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in less than 30 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that the newer generation does not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick



In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait another year!



Here are the other 10:


11. The B-52s

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

20. John Prine

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 02:45am

Enig,
Today is January 5, 2021. In less than 30 days I will turn 57 years old. In about 40 days it's Valentine's Day. It's similar to your cool greeting.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I too would think that a few of the same old veterans will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I also would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and tragic passing of the very talented Neil Peart in 2020. But I differ a lot about the newer generation. Some do understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). I seem to find that it's mixed. Some know them some do Not. They know them from your parents, which is people our age. I have a 24 year old God daughter. She seems to know who Rush are. Not the other 2. But I can tell her about them. She loves techno. but can understand the music of the past.

I will NOT get into inductees at this time. But these are the artists I predicts as nominees

PERFORMERS
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Chaka Khan
The Monkees
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

In my opinion Eminem is a lock even though I don't know any of his music. It is a big artist of a new generation. So my view of the new generation is a bit different. They may know old artists and also I'm willing to include Eminem even if it's not my bag.

What do you think? Sorry if I am a bit negative with criticism. I'm just sharing a different view from someone your age. Be well and Talk to ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 03:31am

Ben,

I don't think you're being negative at all, no worries!

I do notice though, when newer acts (particularly in hip-hop) come up for discussion your take is usually: I'm not familiar with their music but the younger generation seems to like them. I appreciate your open-mindedness, but I think it could be really interesting for you to put some time into listening to these artists, familiarizing yourself with some of their work, and forming your own opinions on their music and merits for induction - even if it's just a few songs here and there. I think that that would lead to more interesting discussions from our varied perspectives. After all, the younger members of this forum familiarize themselves with artists from before their time for the sake of discussion all the time.

Happy to recommend some Eminem songs or songs by other newer artists if you'd like!

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 09:42am

RG,
That would be great. Actually I've done this plenty before. I knew just about nothing about Tupac Shakur. I actually know he's 2Pac. I listened to 4 songs of his and downloaded 1. I own California Love for a couple years. And I did listen to some BIGGIE. .
I was a zero with 2Pac. But actually knew a couple BIG tunes from the 1990s. Ive known Juicy for about 25 years. I downloaded Juicy a couple years ago. Biggie is kinda cool.he is the West Coast. Right? And just recently I caught up a bit on NIN and Jay-Z. Obviously NIN is strictly alternative. But I was NOT aquainted. I actually relate more to a couple Jay-Z tunes. 99 Problems seems to be one of the main ones. Considering I started with Bob Dylan, The Who, Doors, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Steely Dan, Jeff Beck, Blondie etc etc. This is rather open minded. I knew some LL and Beastie Boys when they were first on the rise. They are rather Old School. Yeah you can recommend some Eminem songs. Yeah you're right. I felt Enig's comment went a bit too far. Me and Enig are about the same age. But what he says about the younger generation is NOT accurate. Hey I've loved Yes and Moody Blues for about 43 years. But I'm not so harsh on the Younger generation. I know some guys in their early 30s that love Rush and Thin Lizzy. But also Love Tool. .

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 10:15am

So, I haven't posted them here, but these are my predictions for the 2022 nominations. I haven't really changed them since I first came up with the list. To me, that means I feel most of these acts are trending ones who mostly stand a decent chance of seeing a nom. On a side note, since Kraftwerk was added in the ME cat last year, I'd suspect Rufus or Chaka Khan to get a similar treatment to open up a perpetually held slot. So without further ado, here is my list:

K-Dawg's Way Too Early 2022 predictions:

1. Smashing Pumpkins (William Patrick Corgan, D'arcy Wretzky, James Iha, James Chamberlin) - The most perplexing omission of the 90s bands thus far. They have everything--monster albums, a diverse lineup, and a critical darling in Billy Corgan. It's only a matter of time before they enter Cleveland; hopefully, they can get the original lineup to patch things up, which is by far no easy task.

2. Rage Against the Machine (Timm Commerford, Zack de la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk) - Tom Morello and crew will get a long hard look, especially since fellow Committee member Dave Grohl coasted in FYE with the Foo Fighters. Their politically charged music is as relevant as ever in 2021.


3. Eminem - Love him or hate him, Marshal Mathers is all but guaranteed to go in for 22, but I can totally see him going Sex Pistols on the whole affair...

4. Duran Duran (Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Andy Taylor, Warren Cuccurullo, Nick Rhodes, Roger Taylor) - Prog adjacent, and easily one of the biggest 80s bands yet to even fail to garner a nom for the Hall; I hold to the thought this well could be their year.

5. Carly Simon - With Carole King getting over the hump, Carly is a natural songwriters choice. How is the voice behind "You're So Vain" still waiting on the outside?

6. The B52s (Fred Schneider, Keith Strickland, Cindy Wilson, Ricky Wilson, Kate Pierson) - There aren't many more clear cut choices for an originally influential band than this quintet. They are the pioneers of college rock. And they are socially conscious and LBGT darlings, so that could factor in

7. Eurythmics (Annie Lennox, David A. Stewart) - The Smiths and Joy Divison/New Order keep getting mentioned; however, since the Nom Com has proven time and again they are Americentric, the very deserving duet of Lennox and Stewart will get consideration and again, a very worthy potential inductee.

8. Foreigner (Lou Gramm, Mick Jones, Ian McDonald, Rick Willis, Dennis Elliott, Al Greenwood, Jeff Jacobs) - 70s rock is still not completely tapped out; in terms of popularity and sales, Foreigner has proven they are probably the most notable pop rock band left from a saturated genre.

9. Mariah Carey - with Whitney, Janet and now Tina Turner in, the R&B/pop pendulum is swinging Mariah's way.

10. Harry Nilsson - a choice I wouldn't have seen a year ago, but with Todd Rundgren getting a surprise induction as a performer, Harry becomes an instant candidate to be next

11. Motley Crue (Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee) - I am in the minority in thinking that the committee does want to close the trinity of 80s hair band superstars, and Crue will get another look.

12. Iron Maiden (Bruce Dickinson, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Janick Gers, Steve Harris, Nicko McBrain) - Another minority pick by me, I think that Maiden will not go as quietly as some think; they made enough noise to be heard from again. Priest could also resurface, but I don't think they're ready for Ozzy yet...

13. TLC (T-Boz Tionne Watkins, Left Eye Lisa Lopes, Chili Rozonda Thomas) - Rappers are getting in left and right, but no female hip hop act has yet been nominated. Salt N Pepa arguably should get the first look, but TLC has both the success and the tragedy (the passing of Left Eye in 2002), so they have the more compelling story. This also will lead to the eventual FYE of Beyonce in about, what, 6 years?

14. Tori Amos - The late 90s were a powerful time for feminism and the Lilith Fair. Tori Amos is innovative and a critical darling. She has the influence and reputation to get a look.

15. Bad Company (Paul Rodgers, Brian Howe, Mick Ralphs, Boz Burrell, Steve Price, Simon Kirke) - Always on the top of my list for omissions, Paul Rodgers NEEDS to be in. It's criminal they keep passing him over.

16. The Monkees (Davy Jones, Michael Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork) - to my mind, the last great 60s group waiting on the outside. 2 members already passed (and Mike Nesmith recently did as well) and they are embarking on a farewell tour this upcoming year. It's time to put them in the RRHOF

17. Soundgarden (Chris Cornell, Kim Thayil, Ben Shepard, Matt Cameron) - Grunge isn't dead yet, and Soundgarden could get another look. AIC also should get some consideration in this slot.

18. The Commodores (William King, Lionel Richie, JD Nicholas, Thomas McCrary, Milan Williams, Ronald LaPread, Walter Orange) - Lionel Richie and his original group still remain a great case to get some more 70s R&B in. The Hall can't get this right either.

19. Phil Collins - My WTF pick of the entire list; the Hall likes to put artists in more than once, regardless if they're worthy or it steals a spot from a long deserved and forgotten person. Phil is a big name who would get attention. And, for his credit, that drum solo on "In the AIr Tonight"...well...legend

I don't do predictions this time around until maybe right before the announcement of who will be inducted. I do expect still a more rock heavy presence than we might otherwise get with changing trends in music (by 1996, we had really begun to shift away from rock music in the pop charts)

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 11:54am

Ben,

I'm in the same age range as you (53), but I listen to as much new stuff as I do old. I tend to be more of an alternative rock guy, but I try to sample a little bit of everything if I can. Being from the Detroit area, I have no choice but to know Eminem.

Enimem can be a little tough to get into for some people because of the language he uses and the fats that there are blatant elements of misogyny and homophobia in a number of his songs. But he's an extremely talented rapper and crafts some very clever and intricate rhymes. He's unquestionably a game-changer in the evolution of hip-hop.

He has three different personas that he uses when recording, and each one has it's own style and personality.

Marshall Mathers is his actual name, and the most serious of his personalities. Marshall songs are the least offensive, display more vulnerability, and are often autobiographical. Key songs: Lose Yourself, Stan, Love The Way You Lie, Cleanin' Out My Closet

Eminem is the pure rapper persona. This is where he shows everyone what he can do and why he's considered an elite level artist. Key songs: Rap God, Godzilla, Till I Collapse

Slim Shady is his darkest and most offensive side. Shady songs are his party jams, diss tracks, and F-U's to anyone who's pissed him off. You feel guilty listening to these songs because they can be so excessively vulgar or violent, but they're also some of his best. Key songs: The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is, Without Me, Shake That (I've never ever felt worse about liking a song than this one, but I can't help it)

I might have placed some of the songs under the wrong persona, but this will give you a general idea of his musical output.

Posted by Michael W. on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 11:59am

Michael W.,
I have heard Enimem can be a little tough to get into for some people because of the language he uses and the raw songs. I've read that he is a talented rapper and crafts some very clever and intricate rhymes. I would call him unquestionably a game-changer in the evolution of hip-hop based on what I've read. I know that some friends who are Only into 1980s Rap trashed him. Since I'm not even a huge 80s Rap fan. I only know LL and Beastie Boys. I was a strictly Rock guy in the 1970s and 80s. Rock stations were not going to play any Rap so I only heard a litttle.
I have noticed in the reverse that a bunch of the younger generation know music from Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton, Aerosmith and Steely Dan among others. Younger ones seem to know a bunch of my main favorites like those. I've come across young ones digging Rush. It helps them with discussions on here for sure.
I'll check out Eminem when I get a chance.
Now if you excuse me I will listen to Traffic from 1970 at this moment. I was in the mood for Traffic right now. I'm on a different music plane right Now. You probably know Traffic too. Perhaps. But if not yu probably dig later favs of mine. I like Talking Heads quite a bit. Just throwing out some random Old Rock names

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 12:36pm

Ben,

To add on to Michael W's summary, here are what I think are some of Eminem's seminal songs:

Lose Yourself - The general consensus is that this is his best song. Written for the movie 8 Mile, which was a semi-autobiographical telling of Eminem's early career. His first #1 hit, and the first rap song to win the Oscar for Best Original Song. An inspirational rags-to-riches anthem over a tense rock-esque instrumental.

My Name Is
The Real Slim Shady
Without Me - These three songs, the hit lead singles of Eminem's first three albums, are essentially a trilogy, introducing the Slim Shady persona, an immature, aggressive provocateur out to piss off the world.

Stan - A song written from the perspective of an obsessive superfan writing fan mail to Eminem, getting more and more unhinged throughout the song until it ends tragically. Enough of a cultural milestone that "stan" has become a slang term among young people for people who are fans of an artist to the point of obsession.

Love the Way You Lie - Part of Eminem's early 2010's comeback after a career downturn in the mid-late 00s. A collaboration with Rihanna exploring an abusive relationship.

Rap God - A show of technical rapping skill that honestly reads as a Hall of Fame acceptance speech at times (he literally namedrops the Rock Hall in the song).

Til I Collapse - Just a really solid song. Sleeper hit that was never released as a single, but has since become one of Eminem's most streamed songs.

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 15:30pm

I would add "Cleaning Out My Closet" to that list. He really lays bare his soul and shows some of his motivations with that track.

Also, it's forgotten he had a group for a little while called D12. They have some interesting songs

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 16:11pm

Hey Everyone.
I'm sorry to interrupt alll this. I just found that the Hall had the SINGLES category
in 2020
Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967

Welll How do you like that one. It was done during the height of the Pandemic. It's all 60s Songs I know well. And so the Troggs and Sam the Sham are now in the Hall with their hits. And so 2 things. This category is still around, And predictions for this should be in the 1960s.
And soo I pick Little Bit O Soul- Music Explosion 1967
For 2021 just passed. The Singles may be announced for 2021 Class
You MUST resppond everyone!

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 04:16am

I need someone to the 2020 Singles Category. How did i miss this?? Maybe it was Never announced until now. Someone mentioned a Joke about Wild Thing. Its one of my favorite 60s songs. Anyone respond. This is a big miss by me

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 07:14am

DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN!
They are due after all these years! At least a nomination! They were pioneers in early MTV era videos and have sold over 100 million albums! Give them their due!

Posted by Andre D. on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 08:12am

SINGLES SINGLES singles Category for 2020

I think a few of us didnt know about this at allll. I found out TODAY there is a singles list for 2020

Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967
Its just stuff from the 60s
I know Time is on my Side from the Stones, I never noticed the credits about this song. It was the first Top 10 hit for the band. In Dec 1964
I know immense 60s stats and info. But this is Irma thomas, I do NOT know this

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 09:55am

Andre,

DD will get nominated & subsequently inducted whenever the committee decides to do so.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:05am

Jeese,

The reason why most of your picks haven't been considered is because the Hall is trying to be contemporary with their ceremonies by letting artists that have more popularity than influence inducted. I will agree that your picks are deserving but not all of them would be getting an honor.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:44am

Enig,

Your predictions are very cool but i highly doubt that most of them will ever be nominated let alone inducted.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:48am

To be honest, i really hope the Hall would move away from letting in more 60's & 70's classic bands because they don't deserve to be inducted in the same place as the legendary immortals & it creates a logjam for more 80's & 90's waiting for induction. Let's be honest, do we need to go back to 2016 & 18 when most of these acts from those decades are inducted. This isn't the Hall back in the 90's when it just about that, pretty soon we're going to be seeing the aughts being considered so those decades are going to be done by then.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 11:08am

Follower,
You are the perfect person to draw attention about the singles. I don't when it was put through. I was on the Rock Hall website. I was looking up bios for last year. At the bottom was list of singles for 2020.
They are alll the 60s.
Time is on my Side- Irma Thomas was odd
I didnt know she wrote it. Its famous by Mick and the boys. Google says it was released by Irma T in 1964. Must have been before the Stones hit. Please or somebody check out the Singles for 2020. Ahhh Wild Thing is inducted
Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967
Its just stuff from the 60s
Respond

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 13:46pm

Ben,

Stuff from the 60's is what the Singles Category was. I still want Donnie to do his 80's and 90's singles, though.

But I think we can say the Singles Category is dead.

Posted by Follower on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 23:10pm

Ben,

Yes, the 2020 singles appeared on the website I think when the 2020 inductees were announced, but didn't really receive an announcement or any part in the ceremony. For 2021, there was no acknowledgment of the category at all. I think it's dead, and was an experiment that failed due to poor execution. I wouldn't fixate on it much more.

Posted by RG on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 23:11pm

RG,
I Will definitely not fixate om it anymore. I just wanted to know if you or anyone knew when this happened. I don't often go to the actual Rock hall site. But yeah there is NO aknowledgement for 2021. I never have liked this silly category. It is dead. John Sykes must have stopped this nonsense. There was some 50s songs about 3 years ago. Rumble Link Wray was inducted. Thats from 1958. Ohh and Maybe the Chantels also the 50s. I see the Troggs got a nod with Wild Thing.1966. On a tangent Jimi Hendrix did an average version of it. One of the few average songs of the great Jimi. Singles Category is DONE. Back to other things.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 02:46am

Since I want to promote his ideas, here are the songs that Donnie promoted in his series:

50's Singles:
Shake a Hand by Faye Adams
Gee by The Crows
Sh Boom by The Chords
Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine) by The Penguins
In The Still of the Nite by The Five Satins
Susie Q by Dale Hawkins
At The Hop by Danny and the Juniors
Love is Strange by Mickey & Sylvia
Come, Go With Me by The Del-Vikings
Chantilly Lace by The Big Bopper

60's Singles:
Stay by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs
Tossin' and Turnin' by Bobby Lewis
The Loco-Motion by Little Eva
Do You Love Me by The Contours
Wipe Out by The Surfaris.
Chapel of Love by The Dixie Cups
Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire
Psychotic Revelation by The Count Five
Dirty Water by The Standells
96 Tears by ? and the Mysterians
San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair) by Scott McKenzie
Time Has Come Today by The Chambers Brothers
Get Together by The Youngbloods
Spirit in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum
Sugar Sugar by The Archies

70's Singles:
Layla by Derek and the Dominoes
War by Edwin Starr
All Right Now by Free
O-o-h Child by The Five Stairsteps
Hold Your Head Up by Argent
American Pie by Don McLean
I Can See Clearly Now by Johnny Nash
Think (About It) by Lynn Collins
Stuck In The Middle With You by Stealers Wheel
Drift Away by Dobie Gray
Rock The Boat by The Hues Corporation
Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin
Fooled Around and Fell in Love by Elvin Bishop
Disco Inferno by The Trammps
Don't Leave Me This Way by Thelma Houston
Turn The Beat Around by Vicki Sue Robinson
I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor
Teenage Kicks by The Undertones
YMCA by The Village People
Pop Muzik by M
We Are Family by Sister Sledge
Video Killed The Radio Star by The Buggles
My Sharona by The Knack
What I Like About You by The Romantics
Rapper's Delight by The Sugarhill Gang

I want to know what 80's and 90's songs he thinks could be inducted this way!

Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 04:28am

Follower,
That list is awesome. In Donnies's absence I will continue
Echo Beach by Martha and the Muffins
Don't You Want Me by Human League
Tainted Love by Soft Cell
The Stroke by Billy Squier
Down Under by Men at Work
Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant
Homo Sapien by Pete Shelley
Flashdance by Irene Cara
She Blinded Me with Science by Thomas Dolby
Twilight Zone by Golden Earring
Major Tom by Peter Schilling
Come on Feel the Noise by Quiet Riot
I Want a New Drug by Huey Lewis and the News
Hold me Now by Thompson Twins
Sister Christian by Night Ranger

There is the Early 80s. You could continue or Wait for Donnie
That takes things to 1984

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 07:42am

My best guess for 2022:

Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Mariah Carey
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Fugees
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus with Chaka Khan
Soundgarden
Sparks
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ian on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 08:20am

K-Dawg,

You mentioned a few days ago that you were going to rank the all the performer inductees according to your personal preference. I would be interested to see how they all stack up for you. Being a bit of a list geek myself, I did something similar the first year of COVID. I spent a day just listening to each inducted performer and then ranked them from my favorite to least favorite. I also noted my favorite song from each artist. There were quite a few that I ended up liking more than I thought and few that I ended up liking less after a deeper dive. Maybe after you get yours done we can compare lists.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 11:21am

New predictions now in the new year.

The 60s:
Dionne Warwick
The Monkees

The 70s:
Diana Ross
Sparks

The 80s:
The B-52's
Eurythmics
Chaka Khan
Duran Duran
Iron Maiden
Pat Benatar
Eric B. And Rakim

The 90s:
Rage Against The Machine
Fiona Apple
Soundgarden

The 00s:
Eminem

All-Generational:
Jane's Addiction

The Performers:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Rage Against The Machine
Eminem
Diana Ross
The Monkees

Early Influence:
Joe Tex
Big Mama Thornton
MC5

Musical Excellence:
Carol Kaye
Chaka Khan
The Meters

AE: Rick Rubin

Ben, RG, K-Dawg, Richie, Michael W., Jordan Einstein, etc..

Your thoughts?

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 11:31am

RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Follower, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Joe and Kristen of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast have made their predictions for the next 10 induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

2027: Alicia Keys, Patti LaBelle, Smashing Pumpkins, Wu-Tang Clan, The White Stripes and INXS.

2028: Justin Timberlake, Mary J. Blige, Sheryl Crow, Motley Crue, Pixies and TLC.

2029: Beyonce, Kanye West, No Doubt, Iron Maiden, Diana Ross and Dave Matthews Band.

2030: The Killers, Rihanna, A Tribe Called Quest, Oasis, Motorhead and Alanis Morissette.

2031: Blink-182, Lil Wayne, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, The Bangles and Kool & The Gang.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:08pm

Richie, I know you love the constant predictions, but these are ridiculous. Beyond the next year or two, it's a domino effect and whatever social trends are hot. Some are slam dunks (or should be), but 10 years out is WAY too far to predict at this point.

Michael W., I will get to that in the next week. Thanks for your interest! REMEMBER, I am going to rank it based on my knowledge an opinion. If there's someone who has had a huge influence and I rank them low, I may not be altogether familiar with them. That, and opinions are like anal cavities. Everyone has them.

Plebeian, all in all a solid list. I don't get the Fiona Apple love over Tori Amos or Bjork. She's had 2 big songs 24 years ago. My other nitpick is Erik B and Rakim are probably not going to get another look with all the big guns coming up in rap the next few years. If LL Cool J, who is THE name that put rap onto the rock map, gets Musical Excellence, their chances are slim and none for anything more than that.

Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:48pm

Richie,

The first thing I think when I look at that list is that pretty much any of those artists that are eligible could be inducted this year and no one would bat an eye. Replace Lil Wayne with Eminem and their guess for 2031 could easily be this year's class. Just a reminder of how big the backlog is.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:53pm

Like i said guys, i won't give out any predictions until we get close to hearing the announcement of nominees for 2022. Because i don't want to spoil & wait to early to give those out. I might respond to your picks.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:05pm

Michael W,

You're way off on Eminem for 2031, by this year he'll be an FYE inductee. That didn't stop acts like Jay - Z, Tupac & Biggie from doing so. So Richie's on point for Lil Wayne for 2031.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:12pm

Jordan,

I think Michael's point was that those other artists (Blink, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, Bangles, Kool & The Gang) could just as easily be part of this years class as ten years from now, not that it would take Eminem ten years to get in.

Posted by RG on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:27pm

Just for fun, if that list Richie posted were to be 100% correct and you got to attend one, and only one, of those 10 induction ceremonies, which would you choose?

I think I'd choose 2029, Maiden, Kanye, Beyonce and DMB are all amazing live acts and Diana Ross is a straight up legend. No Doubt doesn't do much for me but everyone else would be great. 2022, 2027, and 2030 would be my runners-up.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:28pm

RG is correct. I'm not moving Eminem to 2031, I'm saying if you moved those other five to this year no one would complain about that class. Eminem is a stone cold lock for this year.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:30pm

Plebeian,

Your predictions are not so bad but there's no way that RATM, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden & Jane's Addiction would be nominated again at the same time as they'll split the overall voting. Maybe Soundgarden & Iron Maiden should be nominated again for 2023 & 24 respectively, i don't know about Jane's Addiction. I would rather see The Monkees for induction under AME since the last 60's act was inducted in 2019 & haven't seen one since, same could be said for Dionne Warwick. Sparks would end up being inducted under Early Influence like Kraftwerk in which they have been nominated more than 5 times as performers. The Bees, Duran Duran & Eurythmics would be an interesting pack but i said the same thing for RATM, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden & Jane's Addiction so it would apply for the three also DD is going to get more votes & would likely be inducted. Eric B & Rakim would eventually go through the LL Cool J route, same could be said for Chaka Khan too.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:30pm

Performer
Eminem - feels like a lock to headline the class
Missy Elliot - her influence is kind of at its peak atm so I think she'll ride it in
Outkast - I think it'll be a heavy rap year and that voters having gone with Em and Missy will want to make the class kind of a celebration
The Monkees - with Micky Dolenz being the only guy left I think there will be a sentimental push
Iron Maiden - shut up metal fans
New Order/Joy Division - with Kraftwerk, Nine Inch Nails, and Depeche Mode I think they'll want to add another of the big synth innovators

Early Influence
Frank Sinatra - obviously a longtime hangover
Gram Parsons and Link Wray - with Kraftwerk and Gil Scott-Heron having kicked in the door for pop to be counted here, I think the hall will start inducting more 50s and 60s acts here

Award for Musical Excellence
Dolly Parton - way too beloved, prob a push to see her go in before death

Ahmet Ertegun Award
Ryan Schreiber - Pitchfork changed the game for music criticism, promotion, fandom, and even the sound

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:51pm

sorry also wanted to list nominees but hit submit before typing it cause brain blah

Other Nominees
Wu-Tang Clan
Jethro Tull
Sean Combs
Soundgarden
Shania Twain
De La Soul
The Guess Who
Rage Against the Machine

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:17pm

KING JANUARY 2022 Final Nominations List RRHOF (20).
I've decided to finalize my list now in January 2022. Don't see it changing much. Here's the KING 20.
1. Smashing Pumpkins
2. Lenny Kravitz
3. Duran Duran
4. Pat Benatar
5. Judas Priest
6. Kool & The Gang
7. Soundgarden
8. Bryan Adams
9. Gram & Emmylou Harris
10. Chaka Khan/Rufus
11. Bad Company
12. The Eurythmics
13. Iron Maiden
14. Diana Ross
15. Eminem
16. Motley Crue
17. Rage Against The Machine
18. X
19. Procol Harum
20. DEVO

Some very difficult cuts with Foreigner, Mariah Carey, Scorpions, and The Black Crowes. I would say some KING FAVS. Giving up on the Willie Nelson nomination. They could move Gram Parsons to a Special Award. I see some good support for The B-52's but I'm waiting another year. With Kraftwerk inducted, I'm not sure where to go in that genre. My guess DEVO will be nominated again. The Monkees are another group with some support here. I just never listened much to their music. Blue Oyster Cult and The Guess Who are 2 I would love to see inducted. I haven't heard much buzz for either. DMB could be brought back for a 2nd nomination.

EARLY INFLUENCE (3)
CONNIE FRANCIS
MC5
THE SONICS

MUSICAL EXCELLENCE (3)
CHAKA KHAN
CHIC
PETER, PAUL, AND MARY

I'm still surprised Peter, Paul & Mary has never been nominated. With these special awards, it could be a good chance for PPM. My guess Link Wray will be inducted somehow as he has support on the Committee. This should be the year Chaka Khan is inducted in some fashion. With these special awards, I could see Chic being inducted as they have been nominated 11 times. Steve Winwood I would love to see him inducted Solo. Perhaps Traffic is sufficient for now. Ben E. King may be inducted Solo later on. I've always loved The Sonics sound. They definitely were ahead of their time. It's amazing how they still can be that powerful and talented in their 70's. Excellent group. Should be inducted.

KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:27pm

Apparently, Calvin Simon is now dead. I can't find any major news outlets reporting it, but I'll trust Joe S.

So far two Inductees (Calvin Simon and Norman Thrasher) have died since the ceremony.

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 22/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive (56%), and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 14 or 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson. It is unknown if Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive or dead.)
2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 16/19 (Cowboy, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:34pm

Mat,

Missy won't be eligible until 2023. OutKast & Eminem won't be inducted at the same year, only one of them (Eminem) would be an guarantee for an upcoming induction. Sean Combs? Again, won't be eligible until 2023 like Elliott. The Monkees would be inducted under AME since the Hall is done with the 60's, same could be said for the Guess Who. Wu - Tang Clan & De La Soul, there's no way we would have 5 or 6 rap acts being nominated let alone inducted. Nobody is champion Shania Twain for an honor so I doubt I'll happen anytime soon. As for the rest, it's a hit or miss.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 16:12pm

Hey jordan

I've read a lot of mixed things about her and combs year of eligibility (either 22 or 23) and am leaning to 2022. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

60s i don't think they're done with yet and i do think they'll maximize rap largely due to the eminem factor (i really do think there will be forces at play here to make a statement with rap cause he's probably going to headline and he is a gamechanger for the hall, also they did just have 2 rap acts - 3 if you count gil - go in so i think there is a shift of sorts coming). Shania i do think is an outsider but i kind of am expecting a rise is pop country being on the radar soon

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 17:26pm

Follower:

I got the news of Calvin Simon's (of Parliament/Funkadelic) death from Wikipedia; since then, I found it on soultracks.com.

Posted by Joe S. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 17:31pm

Mat

Thanks for your response, Both Elliott & Combs had released their debut in '97 so technically they will be eligible for 2023 ceremony, Eminem released his in '96 so he's eligible this year. The reason why i said that the 60's are done is mostly because some of the acts from that decade waited a long time to get inducted in recent years & that is creating a logjam for most of the 80's & 90's acts waiting for inclusion. Shania Twain yes she's pop country but as you see we rarely have country artists in the Hall & considering the fact that there's Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton etc not even nominated, i highly doubt Shania would ever get an nomination let alone induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 19:12pm

Hey Jordan

Yes they released their debut albums in 97 but Missy was a feature on about a half dozen or so singles in 96, three of which were mainstream radio hits. I know that usually the Hall goes by album but sometimes they have counted singles or EPs (Grandmaster Flash and Beastie Boys were both eligible due to EPs and singles). I think Missy commercial success off of features on singles might count but I might be wrong. Combs is in a similar boat performer wise as he had a number of features but he's also a little messy because he had a ton of producer and executive credit prior as well. I could definitely be wrong here as again features but we'll see. I'll also just state kind of a weak year for new nominees.

Re 60s: I agree they're mostly done but I get the vibe there's still a desire for some voters to get in those last few as performers (eg Monkees, Jethro Tull). I think we're maybe in the final years of it and that the next 3 to 4 years will be clashes of the final 60s figures vs. 80s and 90s stars. AFME and Early Influence are definitely going to become the norm for 60s acts soon I think.

Re Shania: There's been a bit of a reassessment of Shania in recent years and women in country as a whole by younger critics. Given her commercial success and influence, I think she could be a nominee but yea not an inductee. Dolly I think is far more likely to go in than her and Dolly I think gets in via the AFME so yea no way Shania is getting in but I wouldn't be shocked if she pops up as a nominee once or twice over the next decade. This year being kinda weak I think supports her likelihood.

Posted by mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 23:32pm

Jordan,
I also for me 60s i don't think they're done with yet. It's just limited. Dionne Warwick was nominated last year. She certainly started in the 60s. She missed induction because she leans to Easy Listening quite a bit. But the Monkees I think will be nominated on the Performer list this year. They are firmly part of Rock n'Roll. And could rather easily be inducted, Let's make sure they are nominated first. Other nominees for the 60s in near future could be Dionne Warwick again, Joe Cocker, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Blue Cheer, Procol Harum and Quicksilver Messenger Service. and Nick Drake. Those maybe. But the 60s acts will be dead for good for Performers around 2026.
Nobody is screaming out for Shania Twain for an honor so I doubt this will happen anytime soon. Hit or miss on a lot of possibilities .

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 03:53am

I think we're getting pretty close on the 60s. Obviously anyone could be nominated, but there just aren't many artists left from that era that I could see making it through on any ballot.

For me, the list of 60s acts that could get in on a regular ballot (and I think will be nominated soon) is Dionne Warwick, The Monkees, Jethro Tull, and Cher. Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson if they decide to start putting country crossover acts on the ballot.

MC5 and Joe Cocker will certainly be side category candidates, and I could see the side categories being used for some of the outstanding R&B artists of the era - Spinners, Marvelettes, Mary Wells, etc.

I'm sorry but I just don't see it ever happening for bands like Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Blue Cheer. There are just so many artists that are much, much higher priority and these bands are so far from any kind of public knowledge or zeitgeist in the world of 2022.

Posted by RG on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 09:42am

Follower:

Glouster "Nat" Rogers is apparently alive.

After seeing your post, I looked on the website for Little Anthony and the Imperials. There was no information about Rogers, so I left an inquiry asking if he was alive. Their tour manager sent this reply:

He is and doing well. Thanks for your question.
Sent from my iPhone
Julie Barrett
Tour manager
Little Anthony and The Imperials

Ms. Barrett also left a phone numbe, which I will not reproduce here. I thought you would like to know.

Posted by Joe S. on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 10:34am

I think the Monkees are on the short list. I'm kind of thinking Jethro Tull and BST could be construed as 70s since their music peak happened at the turn of the decade. Why has no one mentioned the Guess Who? And, like Tina Turner, I think Cher goes into more recent decades as well.

They aren't done with the 60s for awhile. As main inductees, maybe soon, but there is just too much out there still in influence they haven't gotten. Willie Nelson is an obvious one, but is Patsy Cline in the RRHOF in any capacity? I don't believe she is, and she is a definite Early Influence.

Just a couple thoughts

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 15:53pm

Ok, here's a fun one: Inductees turning a new decade this year! (If all goes well)

Turning 50 this year:
Taylor Hawkins and all three members of Green Day (and Eminem since his induction is a forgone conclusion)

Turning 60 this year:
Axl Rose
David Bryan
Jon Bon Jovi
Izzy Stradlin
Jack Irons
Vivian Campell
Flea
Anthony Keidis
Kirk Hammet
Matt Cameron

Turning 70 this year:
Paul Stanley
Michael McDonald
Brad Whitford
Ernie Isley
David Byrne
Marky Ramone
Nile Rogers
Greg Hawks
David Knopfler

Turning 80 this year:
Graham Nash
Carole King
John Cale
Alan Price
Paul McCartney
Brian Wilson
Claudette Rogers Robinson
Roger McGuinn
Al Jardine
Elvin Bishop
Bob Gaudio
Felix Cavaliere
Dave Clark
Andy Summers

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 16:32pm

Hey K-Dawg

I had the Guess Who listed as a nominee but I don't think they're a Hall of Fame act anymore. Like they had some big hits but I get the sense they've kind of become a footnote or forgotten for most outside of Canada aside from "American Woman," partly cause Bachman and Cummings lost control of the name. Randy Bachman however feels like a strong AFME type. His footprint is very large between the Guess Who and BTO plus his solo hits in Canada and radio work with CBC. You could maybe make the case for Burton Cummings also being there but his solo stuff was never as big as BTO stateside.

Posted by Mat R on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 18:42pm

K-Dawg,

Patsy Cline would be one of my top Early Influence picks!

Posted by RG on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 19:25pm

What are your final predictions for the 2022 nominees before they are likely announced in February?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 21:32pm

RG,
That's correct, Obviously anyone could be nominated, but there just aren't many artists left from that era that I could see either being inducted on any ballot.

MC5 and Joe Cocker will certainly be side category candidates, I do agree eventually. These are just as nominees. That's what we are focused on here.
I just don't see it ever happening for bands like Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Blue Cheer either as inductees, BUT as nominees sure they can be on a ballot. There is a distinct difference between nominee list and Inductees. Yes Yes there is artists that are much much higher priority and these bands are so far from any kind of public knowledge and limelight in 2022. BUT I only think these will be nominees, I'm intentionally thinking of artists that are NOT popular anymore. Those 3 above are great bands of the 60s I know about. Just to be clear they have NO chance as regular inductees. Every single year there is nominees that can NEVER make it. I was NOT talking about Inductees at all. Dionne Warwick was just nominated for 2021. She did NOT make it at all. And this year I predict her as Early Influence. All 3 above B, S and Tears, Quicksilver, B Cheer will eventually be Early influence. DO NOT confuse them as Inductees in Next Couple years NO way. I think of them as Only nominees. I always think of Nominees that will Fail.
I think the Monkees can be the LAST inductee of the 60s. They had the super famous TV show and 3 of them are now dead. The focus is =definitely 1980s and 90s. Ahhh But the 1970s is still viable for a long time

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 03:40am

RG,
This continues from the last Post. Lets talk about the 1970s. This is still VIable for years to come. This is the Center of a lot of my Roots. The days when Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Yes, ELO, Steve Miller Band, T Rex, Bill Withers, Diana Ross and others of all kinds were big. For this year I predict Jethro Tull. Some are calling them 60s but their first 2 albums were already 1969. Benefit was already 1970. Thick as a Brick was huge in 1972. Etc etc. Another favorite of mine is Songs from the Wood.
I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present.
Carly Simon, Warren Zevon, Jim Croce and Dolly Parton will be nominated. These are as performers.
Other Rock acts that will surely be nominated are Bad Company, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Joe Walsh maybe, Foreigner and Toto. The 70s are Alive, Not near death like the 60s. There is a bunch of R&b in the 70s too that will be nominated I would think. The Commodores, Kool &the Gang,

Lets stick with 1970s discussion longer than 60s. 1970s people will be nominated and Inducted for many years. Even in 2032 someone 70s will be getting in

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 06:12am

I agree that the Spinners, Kool and the Gang and Foreigner should be in inducted. Although, I want Tool to be nominated.

Posted by Stacey Schultz on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 07:14am

2022 Nominees
Pat Benatar/Neil Geraldo
Eminem
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Jan And Dean
Bad Company
Kurtis Blow
Scorpions
Motorhead
Tommy James & The Shondells
Thin Lizzy
Mariah Carey
"Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kool & The Gang
Pantera

Posted by Gary J Skadra on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:12am

2022 Nominees
Pat Benatar/Neil Geraldo
Eminem
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Jan And Dean
Bad Company
Bryan Adams
Kurtis Blow
Scorpions
Motorhead
Tommy James & The Shondells
Thin Lizzy
Mariah Carey
"Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kool & The Gang
Pantera

Posted by Gary J Skadra on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:16am

Motley Crue
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Bryan Adams
Pat Benetar
Eurythmics
…and if there was an artist that epitomizes what rock and roll is all about…George Thorogood

Posted by PK on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:46am

How is he not in the HOF?

Posted by Joe Cocker on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 21:30pm

Here's my final predictions for 2022:

Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Mariah Carey
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Fugees
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus with Chaka Khan
Soundgarden
Sparks
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ian on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 21:43pm

RG, Plebeian and Greg F,

Assuming six acts per class and ten more years, Who do you see being the 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030 and 2031 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 00:25am

Richie, damn dude. Even for you, it's too much...

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 01:08am

Man, enough with the questions!

Posted by Joe on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 01:38am

RG,
I would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I =m sure we started yet. The 1970s era is great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. I mentioned Jethro Tull, I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present.
Carly Simon, Warren Zevon, Jim Croce and Dolly Parton will be nominated. These are as performers. I also would add the singer/songsriters Harry Nillson, Roberta Flack and Nick Drake, These can all be Nominated, But only Carly Simon and Warren Zevon will make it as Inductees, Not really much chance of the others to win an inductee spot. Regular Rock acts I add are Kansas, Little Feat, Mott the Hoople, Robin Trower, Big Star, Thin Lizzy, Edgar Winter Group, Blue Oyster Cult and Supertramp. What do you think?

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 03:48am

Follower,

If your goal with the birthday milestone list was to make me feel old, then you have succeeded. Axl Rose and Flea are 60 this year?!?! Good lord!

Posted by Michael W. on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 07:59am

Today is January 10, 2022. In 21 days, Lobsterfest will begin and in 24 days, I will be 60 years old. By the way, I have been thinking about my list of nominees during most of this past weekend and although I really like my list; I think that it could always be better. How you may ask? By having a list where only a few incidental male artists (who are connected to the major artist) may appear. In other words, a list with mostly deserving female artists.

Could we help to achieve more parity in the Rock Hall by nominating such a list?


Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 08:18am

I'm not answering any questions about future inductees because I'd rather see an official ballot first. Any other questions asked about this subject will ignored.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 10:56am

One name I haven't seen much and I'm kind of curious about is Daft Punk. They're definitely outsiders but they're also a quite big name that's been a snub for a few years now and their break up last year kind of framed them as one of if not the most influential acts on the modern sound of pop music. In addition with Kraftwerk all now in, they're arguably the most important synth artist not in their other than New Order. With the way the hall is believed to play politics and seeks to appeal, do you think there's a chance there is a push to nominate and maybe induct Daft Punk in 2022?

Posted by Mat R on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:21pm

If the RRHOF won't induct Kraftwerk through the committee and have to do it through side channels, Daft Punk doesn't stand a chance at this point. They will get in eventually, but I predict through ME.

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:27pm

RG, Plebeian and Jordan Einstein,

Assuming six acts per class and ten more years, Who do you see being the 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030 and 2031 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:53pm

Richie,

I'm not answering that until we're close to hearing the official ballot & then i'll give out my answers. As i said before, i won't give out any predictions until we hear about the nominees. Does anyone know when the announcements for 2022 will actually come, is it this month or next month? I just wanted to make sure.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:58pm

Again with more questions, really? You can't really predict future classes without seeing a ballot first.

Posted by Joe on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:59pm

Hey K-Dawg

That's a fair assessment regarding time but the big difference between Daft Punk and all the other synth acts is that Daft Punk went super mainstream in America so I don't know is ME is the most likely avenue for them. We're talking Grammy wins for Album of the Year, reaching the top of the pop and albums charts and having everyone from LCD Soundsystem to Kanye West pretty aggressively citing them as an influence. I think they're in a similar position to Nine Inch Nails rather than Kraftwerk.

Posted by Mat R on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:59pm

It was February last year so it will likely be the same this year.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 21:57pm

Alright then, i'll talk to y'all next month when we hear the announcements but for now i'm off. See ya!

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 22:23pm

RG,
I would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I'm sure we started yet. The 1970s era is a great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. I mentioned Jethro Tull, I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present. You are one of the perfect people to discuss this with. Let's get started with that. But this would be my last attempt at this I think. I'm hoping you could rev up some 70s talk. Or anyone else could. King or anyone else.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 23:38pm

RG,
I tried twice to write what I'm trying to say. I told you most. would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I'm NOT NOT SURE we started yet. The 1970s era is a great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. LETS Talk about the 70s! It would be cool.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 02:19am

The 70s has a problem much like the 60s has. Most of the 70s acts that are in seem to be of the rock variety. The influence of the voting body is heavy and present here. The thing about this decade was, in my estimation, the real beginning of the splintering of genres becoming more specialized towards different listening audiences. R and B/funk became a major smash and was also the precursor to the genre that some still scream with horror about, the mirror balled disco craze. Also, there are many folk singers who were kind of overshadowed compared to their 60s counterparts. It's not a solo factor, but I suspect with Woodstock and the hippie/antiwar movement dying down, they got lost in the shuffle. AM rock is classic stuff, but only a couple groups like Steely Dan are really recognized.

At the same time, the 70s all around probably are the decade most people today consider the maturing of what we got in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. The fact there are SO many acts that could still get consideration, both rock and other genres. I am especially critical of the fact we haven't seen the Spinners, Commodores, Ohio Players, or many other funk and R/B representations to this point. I mean, we have the Isley Brothers, Earth Wind and Fire and the O'Jays. It's pretty disheartening that the 70s acts we get lately are the Doobie Brothers ilk--nothing inherently wrong, and a strong case can be made for them, but it seems that this very influential decade is saturated mostly with classic rock staples/rockist faves. The 80s, by comparison to this point, has become much more diverse the past few years. But, that's a conversation for a whole other topic.

Ben, I hope this is part of what you were hoping for. I would appreciate your feedback

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 03:49am

K Dawg,
I see what happened. I did Not get to R&B fast enough. I mentioned Singer/Songwriters like Carly Simon and Regular Rock. I like these 2 genres the most. But I was mentioning R&B Next. Thats why I wanted this discussion. For those 3 genres. As I originally planned R&B now enters discussion. Although I'm a huge Rocker I own and Love a significant amount of R&B. I love the Spinners and Kool & the Gang I consider Very good. I have rallied for 8 years for the Spinners to be inducted. In Fact the Spinners have a much better chance than Chic since the Induction of Nile Rodgers. He is an enormous talent BUT I think this eliminates Chic. I also Love some Commodores, Ohio Players, Diana Ross. Rufus is Ok. These are likely but are kinda ignored. You are Right. But maybe the Hall will solve this. Diana Ross and the Spinners need to be inducted, They are in danger of being dead. Diana R is in good health. I think. She gave gave good concerts back in the 1970s. 70s were good to Diana Ross. Diana had a lot of hits. Theme from Mahogany and It's My House stand out. I own these. I threw in Diana because left her out. Heyy you couldnt think of everyone in Old R&B. Its your turn. Go ahead

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 06:12am

K Dawg,
That should be a cool response with R&B of the 1970s. I will also add the great Harold Melvyn & the Bluenotes and War, I must include those too. Don't forget to mention Diana Ross in your response. She has a huge chance for her Solo

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 08:39am

I'm surprised that the 1970's still have several music artists and groups awaiting induction. An interesting decade. I was hoping Procol Harum would earn more support after The Zombies induction. This hasn't happened. PH crafted many brilliant compositions and songs that stand the test of time. A Whiter Shade Of Pale, Conquistador, Crucification Lane, Pandora's Box, Salty Dog, Simple Sister, Strong As Samson etc. Foreigner had a string of platinum albums and a strong decade run into the later 1980's. Many Classic Songs: Cold As Ice, I Want To Know What Love Is, Hot Blooded, Jukebox Hero, Urgent, Waiting For A Girl Like You, etc. Lou Gramm is 1 of the top vocalists of his era. Blue Oyster Cult is another group that deserves a nomination and induction. They fill in many spots as a nominee. Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Metal, 70's Rock. Also, have a few memorable Hits like Burnin' For You, Don't Fear The Reaper and Godzilla. Bad Company is a head-scratcher as they had a string of 1970's successful gold and platinum albums and still had success without Paul Rodgers. It shows it just wasn't a Paul Rodgers production. My guess Diana Ross will be nominated as a Solo artist this year or next. Carole King, Stevie Nicks & Tina Turner have been recent women 2x Inductees. Kool & The Gang might be nominated this year or soon. They have had a long 50+:year run in the music industry. I'm partial to Misled and Tonight. Outstanding group. Celebration is 1 of those songs that is a classic. Birthdays, Parties, Sports Teams winning...It's played many times . WAR probably will be moved into that Special Category maybe Musical Excellence. They have been nominated at least 3x. I agree on The Spinners. They have a great sound and the vocals and arrangements are well-done. Rubberband Man stands out. Cupid is 1 of the best vocals. On point. I'd like to see Emmylou Harris inducted. She has had a long distinguished career collaborating with Gram Parsons, Mark Knopfler, The Band and many others. EH would have the votes needed. Lionel Richie is interesting as he could be a 2x Inductee with The Commodores & Solo. His time for nomination should be soon. J. Geils Band is still floating around. I think they have been nominated 5x. Definitely will earn 1 of those Special Awards. Peter Wolf is respected in the music industry. A shame Mr Geils passed a few years ago. MC5 as well. They can't seem to muster enough votes. I could go on but some others can jump in about other artists and 70's groups who are deserving of RRHOF.
KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 09:36am

King,
Ahhh Great post. WAR probably will be moved into that Special Category maybe Musical Excellence. I would say so. They have been nominated at least 3x for sure. I figured you'd agree on The Spinners. Rubberband Man is the best one Cupid is 1 of the best vocals. Yeahhh . I'd like to see Emmylou Harris inducted. She has had a long distinguished career collaborating with a lot of people. EH would have the votes needed. Lionel Richie is interesting BUT I think just with The Commodores . . J. Geils Band is still floating around. Yesss they have been nominated 5x. Definitely will earn 1 of those Special Awards. Peter Wolf is respected in the music industry. Mr J Geils passed a few years ago. MC5 as well. They can't seem to muster enough votes Veryyy true. I think King Crimson could get Musical Excellence this year. Its just a feeling. King Crimson have been around 52 years

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 09:49am

My hopes for 2022 nominees:
Carly Simon
Pat Benatar
The Bangles
Kate Bush
Tori Amos
Cyndi Lauper
Chaka Khan
The Runaways
Carole King
Gram Parsons
Warren Zevon
Llowell George
Bad Company
Tommy James & the Shondells
The MONKEES
Cher

Posted by Brenda on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 12:11pm

Ben and KING,

What of the folk singers/AM rock of the 70s? Paul Revere and the Raiders is not a name you hear often, but do you think they stand a chance?

Carly Simon, Harry Nilsson, there are others out there I'm missing. Seals and Croft, if they are going to do that silly songs category-- "Summer Breeze" is timeless. Even someone as obscure as Captain&Tennille?

These aren't necessarily RRHOF worthy (although I say Simon and Nilsson should both have been in long ago), but there is more folk and AM rock stuff coming to memory every time I postulate here...

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 13:23pm

Captain & Tennille aren't exactly 'obscure'. They had a hit TV variety show for awhile back in 70s.

I think they have not hardly any chance, but they were not obscure back in their heyday.

I think Carly Simon will get in sometime. The rest, nope.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 14:43pm

Let me make this a grammatically correct triple negative:

I think they don't have not hardly any chance, but they were not obscure back in their heyday.

Fixed!!

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 14:45pm

I would think that so many good artists are not in the The Rock Hall
Twila Paris had her first album in 1965 and has had some rock/pop in her music since the 1980s
Pat Benatar had most of her albums in the rock vein since 1979 with one album being jump blues
Michael Sweet was in both Boston and Stryper that did versions of Peace Of Mind
Jim Steinman has had people do versions of songs he wrote since 1973 including The Everly Brothers
Mutt Lange has done a lot of work on a lot of albums
All I can ask is why are they not in?
Hope for good inductees in 2022

Posted by jim lively on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 15:15pm

Paul in KY,

I never don't not hate seeing your posts...very insightful.

(Hope I got that right)

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 16:13pm

RG, Ben and K-Dawg,

The only 60's and 70's acts that I feel have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point are Bad Company, Boston, Cher, Joe Cocker, The Commodores, Jim Croce, Foreigner, Jethro Tull, The Monkees, Willie Nelson, New York Dolls, Harry Nilsson, Gram Parsons, Dolly Parton, Diana Ross, Carly Simon, The Spinners, Dionne Warwick, Barry White and Warren Zevon. And a few are a big maybe.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 17:55pm

Richie,

I commend you on joining the conversation. And very good answer!

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 18:32pm

K-Dawg,

Thank You! and also, I forgot to mention Thin Lizzy in my last post regarding which 60's and 70's acts have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point, so I'll add them to my list as well.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 19:54pm

Well you see. When I bring the 70s to the discussion there is a lot more of a discussion, Bad Company, Jim Croce, Harry Chapin, Foreigner, WIllie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Barry White and the Stylistics. These I think are other artists of the 70s that should absolutely be nominated, Not sure who of these can be inducted but ceratinly Nominated

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 23:50pm

I think the list is a bit more comprehensive than just the names listed. The Hall could go in numerous directions. No one has even mentioned Kansas (not counting Enig), Styx, Supertramp, Gloria Gaynor, the Pointer Sisters, Jimmy Buffet, and countless others I am definitely missing.

The 60s may be about done (PLEASE put the Monkees in finally), but I think the 70s have a bit to go. And, with the trends the RRHOF always does, I see them being on the list long into the time the 2000s and even the 2010s are considered.

On a side note, did Don Cornelius get his Influence nom yet? Put the man in!!!

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 00:10am

K-Dawg,
I see you know your stuff on R&b. I would be remiss to skip Pointer Sisters. Not Gloria Gaynor though. She is mainly known just for I Will Survive. Ahh but Pointer Sisters. They have lots of hits and albums.
Don Cornelius did NOT get his influence spot yet. With influence Noms arent needed people just get inducted direct by the Hall members. Don C needs to go in. Another act could be the Manhattans. I think between us we've named most of the 70s R&B that can be nominated.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 03:10am

LaBelle has an outside chance as well. Since I'm dwelling on it, a couple more are Roberta Flack, Peabo Bryson (not sure if he's 70s or 80s), and again, I will point out the forgotten children, The Ohio Players.

Thanks for the words of compliment, Ben. I try to be a fan of music of all decades, with the usual exception of a lot of country.

And lastly, do the Meters count as 70s in this argument?

Great discussion. This is enjoyable.

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 04:25am

K-Dawg,
Yes the Meters do count as 70s. They did Not emerge until 1969. So most of their is 70s. If an act starts success in 1969 and then release albums for 7 more years or whatever then they are 70s. I think the Meters had albums until about 1978. This discussion has been cool.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 08:11am

I'd like to throw one more 70's artist out there that I don't think anyone had mentioned yet: Big Star. They didn't have the commercial success of the other artists you guys have mentioned, but their level of influence is on par with T. Rex, and Alex Chilton is a pretty iconic figure. R.E.M. and the Replacements are the most notable bands influenced by them, but they also impacted acts ranging from KISS to the Bangles to Wilco among others. They're one of the progenitors of alternative rock and power pop and definitely expanded the boundaries of what rock music could sound like in their day.

Posted by Michael W. on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:07am

Michael W,

Thank You! I had completely forgotten about Big Star as well, So I'll also add them to my list of acts from the 60's and 70's that I feel have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point as well.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:15am

Thin Lizzy -One of the most underrated drummers in the history of Rock n Roll-Brian Downey
The late Phil Lynott- Black father/ Irish mother Frontman who wrote and sang all the songs and could play bass as well.
Scott Gorham-American who was the start of having 2 lead guitar players along with
Brian Robertson-from Scotland.
The late Gary Moore from Northern Ireland who filled in when needed and made them the best line up.
Less we not forget Eric Bell , and the other members who played keyboards or guitar during different periods.

Posted by David Patrick McDonnell on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:22am

The Ohio Players! Funk pioneers emulated by many but never equaled.

Posted by Jack R Marchbanks on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 16:51pm

RIP Ronnie Spector :(

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 16:57pm

The only pre 2010 class where it's easier to list the living members has gained another dead member, unfortunately. At least we know now that Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive.

So far four Inductees (Grahame Edge, Norman Thrasher, Calvin Simon, and Ronnie Spector) have died since the ceremony.

Living Members of Each Class, 1986-2009 (except 2007, since in that case it's still easier to list the 4 dead members. If anyone thinks that it's easier to list the living members of any of the other classes, let me know.)

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 22/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive (56%), and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Glouster "Nat" Rogers, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson.)
2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 15/19 (Cowboy, Ronnie Spector, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 17:19pm

Sorry about my mistake earlier. If anyone thinks for any pre-2010 class it is easier to list the dead members than the living ones, let me know.

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 17:22pm

R.I.P. Ronnie Spector

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 18:42pm

RIP Ronnie Spector. I mainly know her for And so the hit Be My Baby with the Ronettes. I do know the Ronettes opened for the Rolling Stones around 1964 or 65. She worked with Bruce Springsteen I think. And so another death,

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 19:28pm

The Ronettes are now one of the groups with only one surviving inducted member; here they are:

The Supremes (Diana Ross)
The Drifters (Charlie Thomas)
The Temptations (Otis Williams)
The Four Tops (Abdul "Duke" Fakir)
Ike and Tina Turner (Tina Turner)
Cream (Eric Clapton)
The Bee Gees (Barry Gibb)
The Mamas and The Papas (Michelle Philips)
The Staple Singers (Mavis Staples)
Ramones (Marky Ramone)
Righteous Brothers (Bill Medley)
The Ronettes (Nedra Talley)
The Ventures (Don Wilson)
T. Rex (Bill Legend)

Posted by Follower on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 03:17am

The thing about me with the Ronettes, they are just before the earliest era of my extensive knowledge. I basically know Ronnie Spector as the Be My Baby lady. That's a far cry from my extensive knowledge of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Animals, Dave Clark Five, Bob Dylan Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs and Paul Revere and the Raiders, I mention that last because someone mentioned them. And of course I know a bunch about Lovin Spoonful with Summer in the City, Daydream, Nashville Cats, Those were all Top 10 hits around 1966. Thats as old as I get. Hey in 2022 thats Old enough. But the Ronettes I really just know Be My Baby. I will be 57. I'm lucky to have my knowledge of the ones above. I do think the Ronettes opened for the Rolling Stones. A band I do know a bunch about. I told my fiancee that Ronnie Spector died. She does Not even know who this is. She is also 57.She did some work with Bruce S and Steve Van Zant, And so RIP Ronnie Spector.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 04:11am

Fela Kuti should be inducted in the most wives category not the Rock Hall

Posted by Steve Berg on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 10:12am

Fela Kuti should be inducted in the most wives category not the Rock Hall

Posted by Steve Berg on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 10:14am

RG and Plebeian,

Joe and Kristen of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast have made their predictions for the next 15 induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

2027: Alicia Keys, Patti LaBelle, Smashing Pumpkins, Wu-Tang Clan, The White Stripes and INXS.

2028: Justin Timberlake, Mary J. Blige, Sheryl Crow, Motley Crue, Pixies and TLC.

2029: Beyoncé, Kanye West, No Doubt, Iron Maiden, Diana Ross and Dave Matthews Band.

2030: The Killers, Rihanna, A Tribe Called Quest, Oasis, Motorhead and Alanis Morissette.

2031: Blink-182, Lil Wayne, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, The Bangles and Kool & The Gang.

2032: Taylor Swift, The Strokes, Amy Winehouse, Dr. Dre, Kate Bush and Alice In Chains.

2033: Adele, Daft Punk, Nas, Aaliyah, Thin Lizzy and Stone Temple Pilots.

2034: Lady Gaga, Usher, Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine, Vampire Weekend, Busta Rhymes and The Replacements.

2035: Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Britney Spears, LCD Soundsystem, Destiny's Child and Sting.

2036: Bruno Mars, Nicki Minaj, John Mayer, Arcade Fire, Bjork and Linkin Park.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 20:43pm

I think Linkin Park will get in 10 years before they predicted. I actually think they will probably be inducted in their first year of eligibility.
I also think Blink-182 will get in earlier than 2030. Certainly earlier than Sheryl Crow or Alicia Keys.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:38pm

Also, Iron Maiden and Priest will get in in a couple years. Just wait.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:39pm

I also predict, of bands from the 2000's, My Chemical Romance I predict will get in the 2030's. Maybe not in their first year of eligibility, but I do think they will get in around 2033 or 2034.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:43pm

Troy L. Smith and co. revamped their tier lists with some new criteria and included more recent inductees.

I'll be listing them all here, in order of how many points they got.

Tier I, The Pantheon (700 or more points):

The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Presley, Led Zeppelin, U2, Madonna, Aretha Franklin, Neil Young, James Brown and the Famous Flames, Prince, Michael Jackson, Ray Charles, The Who, Radiohead, The Beach Boys, and Chuck Berry.

Tier II, Legends and Icons (699-500 points):

Bob Marley, R.E.M., Pink Floyd, Miles Davis, The Clash, Stevie Wonder, Johnny Cash, The Kinks, Marvin Gaye, Little Richard, Joni Mitchel, Nirvana, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Velvet Underground, Van Morrison, The Byrds, and Muddy Waters.

Tier III, All Time Greats (499-400 points):

Jay-Z, Elvis Costello and the Attractions, Metallica, Elton John, The Supremes, Sam Cooke, AC/DC, Queen, The Doors, The Band, Talking Heads, Black Sabbath, Beastie Boys, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Waits, Otis Redding, and Ramones.

Tier IV, No-Brainers (399-300):

The Cure, Leonard Cohen, Blondie, Sly and the Family Stone, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Parliament-Funkadelic, Bo Diddley, Depeche Mode, The Temptations, The Police, Janet Jackson, Cream, Fats Domino, Aerosmith, Grateful Dead, Simon & Garfunkel, B.B. King, The Drifters, Eagles, John Lennon, Patti Smith, Al Green, Roxy Music, The Everly Brothers, Guns N Roses, Curtis Mayfield, and Lou Reed.

Tier V, Proven Performers (299-200):

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Eric Clapton, Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, Roy Orbison, Paul Simon, Run-DMC, Jerry Lee Lews, Jackie Wilson, Steely Dan, Frank Zappa, The Yardbirds, Carl Perkins, Janis Joplin, Pearl Jam, Rod Stewart, Eddie Cochran, Bee Gees, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Van Halen, Tupac Shakur, Nina Simone, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Donna Summer, The Shirelles, Randy Newman, Peter Gabriel, Paul McCartney, Jefferson Airplane, Sex Pistols, Deep Purple, The Platters, Tina Turner, Big Joe Turner, Ricky Nelson, Etta James, Dusty Springfield, Whitney Houston, The Four Tops, Bill Hayley & His Comets, ABBA, The Isley Brothers, Nine Inch Nails, The Allman Brothers Band, Genesis, The Ronettes, Santana, The Pretenders, Green Day, Billy Joel, and Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

Tier VI, Best of the Rest (199-100):
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters, The Impressions, Clyde McPhatter, Alice Cooper, Jackson Browne, NWA, ZZ Top, Ruth Brown, Little Willie John, Traffic, John Lee Hooker, James Taylor, Foo Fighters, Dire Straits, The Coasters, Carole King, Rush, T. Rex, Earth Wind, and Fire, The Staple Singers, The Notorious B.I.G., Yes, The Go-Go's, Bonnie Raitt, Ike and Tina Turner, Duane Eddy, Martha and the Vandellas, Bob Seger, The Animals, Wilson Picket, George Harrison, Donovan, Electric Light Orchestra, Cheap Trick, Def Leppard, Linda Ronstadt, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Booker T. and the MG's, Cat Stevens, Jimmy Reed, KISS, Hall and Oats, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, Buffalo Springfield, Dell Shannon, Steve Miller, The Four Seasons, The Cars, Dr. John, SmalFaces/The Faces, The Jackson 5, and Stevie Ray Vaughn & Double Trouble.

Tier VII, Marginal Acts (less than 100):
Jimmy Cliff, Solomon Burke, Neil Diamond, Albert King, The Lovin' Spoonful, The Mama's and the Papa's, The Zombies, Bill Withers, Lavern Baker, The [Young] Rascals, Bon Jovi, Laura Nyro, Sam & Dave, The Righteous Brothers, Isaac Hayes, The O'Jays, Heart, Bobby Darin, Chicago, Joan Baez, Bobby Womack, The Flamingos, John Mellencamp, Todd Rundgren, Journey, Dion, Buddy Guy, Gene Vincent & his Blue Caps, The Doobie Brothers, Jeff Beck, Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers, The Hollies, Ritchie Vales, The Dells, The Moody Blues, Gene Pitney, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Darlene Love, Percy Sledge, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Dave Clark Five, Bobby "Blue" Bland, Lloyd Price, Stevie Nicks, Little Anthony & The Imperials, Brenda Lee, and The Moonglows.

The last two have the least points, with 20. By this metric, Brenda Lee or The Moonglows is the least deserving Hall of Famer.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 00:22am

K-Dawg,

You asked What of the folk singers/AM rock of the 70s? Paul Revere and the Raiders is not a name you hear often, thats true. I think they could. They were Notable in the 60s but had a huge hit in 1971 with Indian Reservation. It was number one in July 1971. Unfortunately that was their last big hit. A song called Country Wine never charted high in 1972 and they were done. I read about the song I've never heard it. since they were done by 1972 this stops their chances a lot. But instead there is Three Dog Night. Their first hit was in 1969. This places them much more in the 70s. Their hits Mama Told Me Not to Come and Joy to the World were huge number one hits. Joy to the World was a huge number one song in 1971. Black and White, Shambala and The Show Must Go On were all big hits after. The Show Must Go on took them to 1974. That gives them strength as a 70s band. I'll get back to AM Rock.
You mentioned folk singers. There was plenty of those in the 70s.Carly Simon, Harry Nilsson is 2 great ones. There are others out there youre missing. How about Gordon Lightfoot? Now there is a folk singer of the 70s. He had a bunch .of hits and notable albums. Others are Phoebe Snow, Jim Croce and John Denver. Ok, Its your turn. Please continue if you can.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 04:01am

Nothing stated in the comments above can be considered until REO Speedwagon is nominated and inducted into the RR Hall of Fame! They defined the hundreds of hardworking American heartland rock bands of the 1970s and then broke through them all as the most massive American rock band of the late 70s and 80s. Kevin Cronin and Gary Richrath's intricate songwriting created some of the most beloved songs of the time (Roll with the Changes, Riding the Storm out, Lucky for you, etc.) Gary was one of the top ten best guitarist of the rock era - no matter what Rolling Stone magazine writes in their lists. Watch a live clip from the 70s of him shredding on, Say you love me or say goodnight. Yes, I know there is a schlocky power ballad from 1981 that turned many off, but just ignore that song as I do. Watch some You Tube videos captured in the late 70s - like from the Midnight Special - and you will see one of the most amazing acts on stage performing their hearts out. It's embarrassing that Journey, Cheap Trick and Bon Jovi are in but not REO!

Nominate REO in 2022!!!

Posted by Rob on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 10:32am

Rob,

You are doing something commendable for a band you love. That is great. We typically try to stay away from tangents to convince others here to consider someone for the RRHOF. I have seen REO Speedwagon mentioned a few times here and there, but honestly, they are another good band in a genre saturated with them. They are ordinary by comparison to other, more successful or lauded bands still not in like Bad Company, Foreigner, Boston and Blue Oyster Cult. I'm sorry, I don't see them being HOF worthy. John Cougar Mellencamp did much of the same stuff you mentioned. And, your argument is focused from a personal perspective much too prominently. It's not about one upmanship; there are many examples of acts in that I personally feel don't belong, but they don't go around bashing other bands that are in. And, no offense, but saying "who cares what Rolling Stone says", um Jann Wenner, who created Rolling Stone, has a major hand in this Hall. So, if he doesn't see REO Speedwagon being among the elite, and to me that is truth, then they aren't going to get much support unless there's a groundwell. That's unlikely, and I've SEEN some major movements to get dozens of bands in before them. Your passion and civility is endearing, though

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 12:42pm

You who say that commercial success does not make an artist worthy annoy me. Fame should be defined as when an artist is well-known. Sales should be viewed as a painfully obvious factor, like most people do.

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 15:14pm

PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 03:10am

EDITED

PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention