There's absolutely no one here who has made a big blast on music...maybe Timbaland, but you know his best shots lie as a producer. Seriously though, I can't think of any band here who's been influential, or even talked about. This might be a slow year and a chance for backlogged artists to get in.

Posted by maplejet on Friday, 09.7.07 @ 12:24pm

The Avalanaches, Deerhoof and Of Montreal have been idolized by many in the indie rock community, so you're a wee bit uninformed...can tell from your posts that the radio is your primary source of music knowledge.

And Sigur Ros, well, everyone in Cleveland should carry them up on their shoulders and waltz them right into that museum.

Posted by Casper on Friday, 09.7.07 @ 16:03pm

Just because indie nerds like those bands doesn't mean they have a place...there are already a lot of holes regarding rock right now...a lot of obvious classic bands like The Cure, Deep Purple, and Rush are being ignored.

Another thing is the impact on music in the near future. Will those bands like Of Montreal and Deerhoof even be well known in the years to come? Why not set up an indie hall of fame sponsored by pitchfork!

Posted by maplejet on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 12:46pm

Deerhoof and Of Montreal might be wildcards at the moment (although I wouldn't be surprised if similar bands with more radio appeal start cropping up soon), but Sigur Rós is a phenomenon. They already have a fair number of followers, and I'd really be surprised if they didn't continue to build over the years. The only reason I can't wholeheartedly say "they'll get in" is that it's still 15 years off. For that same reason, I have to say that the backlog you're complaining about (which IS a serious problem now, don't get me wrong) might not even exist then, so it's not worth considering.

Posted by William on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:03pm

"Just because indie nerds like those bands doesn't mean they have a place"

Well, firstly, I dislike your use of "indie nerds", and it reminds me of the way 'a certain someone' used to speak. I know what you mean by "indie nerds", but it's a horrible stereotype, and the way you used it here suggests that no ordinary people listen to those bands.

"a lot of obvious classic bands like The Cure, Deep Purple, and Rush are being ignored."

Hmm....Anonymous was known to be a fan of all those bands

"Why not set up an indie hall of fame sponsored by pitchfork!"

I don't even think Pitchfork should be given that honour. I've always felt that Pitchfork was somewhat pretentious and domineering, and it needs to stop reflecting the overall grade of an album by its innovation and influence, and start looking at albums more broadly.

For example, I quite recently bought "Costello Music" by The Fratellis, and I am still greatly enjoying listening to it. When I looked at Pitchfork's review, it was 5.5 (or something like that). Why? Because it's a bit samey, that's why, and even I'd admit that; and because it borrows from older artists.

Pitchfork REALLY doesn't know about what the Fratellis are up against over here; thousands of Libertines, Coral, Franz Ferdinand knock-offs and this tripe called 'metal core'.

If I was reviewing that record, I would give it between 6.5 and 7.2.

Also, can ANYONE explain why American Idiot got a 7.2, even though Green Day were't punk from the off, whilst BRMC's latest outing is being labelled "sophomore slump"?

"Another thing is the impact on music in the near future. Will those bands like Of Montreal and Deerhoof even be well known in the years to come?"

I'd say 'probably'. The 'movement' (that is to say, the time between a band starting, and the time they start influencing) of the music industry appears to be speeding up, what with MySpace, free downloads and less difficutly for indie bands to tour round the globe.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:50pm

Did they really call Baby 81 a "sophomore slump"? It's their fourth record. That said, I can understand it getting a mediocre score considering how poorly it compares to pretty much their entire catalog up to that point (especially Howl). Not a bad record, but they can do better.

Posted by William on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:59pm

Indeed, and I agree that they could (and hopefully will) do better next time. But 4.5?

Posted by liam on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 14:10pm

That said, they did give Out Of Nothing bu Embrace a 7.2, when it would have been SO EASY to label them VerveandOasis clones.

Oh, don't worry - there IS another Embrace, incase you were wondering.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 14:24pm

There are at least three.

Posted by William on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 14:26pm

=O

Next you'll be telling me that there are Charlatans outside Psychedelia and Britpop....

Posted by liam on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 14:32pm

The Finnish band Nightwish is missing from this list.

Posted by Gregory Pietsch on Monday, 03.24.08 @ 14:49pm

As far as Nightwish is concerned, they meet at least two of the criteria. Do they rock? Yes. Is the music mind-bending? Yes. Did they make a "rock move"? I don't know if firing operatic singer Tarja Turunen via an open letter qualifies, but it comes close.

Posted by Gregory Pietsch on Monday, 03.24.08 @ 18:51pm

Get up kids defined early emo, not that they'll get in though. P diddy, third eye blind and slipknot of all bands.

Posted by allan on Saturday, 09.6.08 @ 23:56pm

There isn't much here to work with, aside from a few well known names. If they're going to do it like they usually do (i.e. ignore the very outline they've set up and go for the greenbacks) then Creed, Missy Elliott, and P. Diddy are in. What's frightening is just how small scale much of this list is, and how little effect anyone here has had on music in a broader sense. Outside of the last five years, where things are still to early to tell, is this the worst year ever for picks?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 09.7.08 @ 04:36am

There is one contributing factor in all of these "groups/artists that are eligible in 20**. It doesn't mean ANY of them will be inducted. By the looks of it, someone in this group needs to step up and do something REALLY special!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 09.7.08 @ 08:16am

THIRD EYE BLIND
CREED
SWITCHFOOT

Posted by BAGHEAD on Saturday, 03.14.09 @ 13:05pm

Mudvayne
Slipknot
Third Eye Blind

Posted by S.R on Thursday, 03.26.09 @ 18:47pm

this year has no locks. i can't see any of these artist getting in for a long time. (Maybe P. Diddy or Slipknot).

Posted by lame on Sunday, 05.10.09 @ 17:49pm

There once was a town called Calexico. It had two rival gangs, The Buena Vista Social Club and the cult-like Children of Bodom, the latter of which had the slogan "Five For Fighting!" The leader of the Children of Bodom was a man Of Montreal who was only known as "Mudvayne." The leader of the Buena Vista Social Club was a man called Travis who rode a motorcycle he called Warhorse. The two fought a bloody war the results of which can still be felt in the Atmosphere. After the war was over the town's reputation turned around 98 Degrees until one day, Mudvayne returned under the alias of Will Smith but he was subsequently arrested for Floggin Molly, the town's female sheriff.

Posted by Keebord on Sunday, 01.3.10 @ 19:57pm

Posted by Keebord on Sunday, 01.3.10 @ 19:57pm
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Don't you love the new band names? I love checking out the bands post-2020.

In brings out the inner-Leo Tolstoy in me...

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 01.4.10 @ 06:30am

Some of the name's definitely have an overcreativie edge to them

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 01.4.10 @ 06:35am

Slipknot & P Diddy to me, will.

Missy Elliott probably will.

Timbaland, and Third Eye Blind could.

Posted by MC on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 15:52pm

This group hasn't really done much that would make one say "Wow! They need to get into the Hall!".
Missy Elliott and maybe Timbaland are as much of a lock as you're going to get.

I can't form that much of an opinion on Sigur Ros, but from the songs I've heard, it's nothing that appeals to me personally.
However, this doesn't exclude it from being inducted.

Posted by Daniel on Wednesday, 06.9.10 @ 18:49pm

Daniel...what exactly do you base an artist being a "lock" on??? Are you even aware of what the criteria is???

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 06.9.10 @ 19:09pm

Keep an eye on Children of Bodom, Flogging Molly, O.A.R. and HammerFall even if none of them stand a chance. Travis released some good stuff, but I've no idea what happened to them, and they only had one critically acclaimed album, so their induction is unlikely. Creed do have better chances than Travis (unfortunately,) but they've got virtually no critical respect and this comeback of theirs has been a 15 minutes thing so far, so unless they can build their popularity back up they won't be inducted. I'll do some research on Sigur Ros, and they do have some real critical respect, so I'd keep an eye on them. Slipknot are alright, but they face "the metal problem," I'm not sure whether I'd call them innovative and they don't have much influence to speak of. Third Eye Blind, Switch Foot, Five For Fighting and Smash Mouth had a few hits, but nothing earth-shattering, and they're now obscure. The best chances here belong to Missy Elliott (who does have enough critical respect, but I'm not sure about popularity,) Timbaland (who has legitimate commercial success but not much critical respect, so his legitimate chances are as a Non-Performer) and Wyclef Jean (see Timbaland, except he's not a NP.) Needless to say, nobody in this class is a lock just yet, and none of them have a good chance just yet except maybe Missy Elliott and Timbaland.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 09.22.10 @ 07:16am

Seriously??? Everyone here is clueless to who Derek Trucks is? I can 100% guarantee you he will be in the hall of fame. He is the greatest guitar player of our generation. If you don't believe me look up this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AofJh-7FM. He will blow your mind. By far the most talented musician on this list.

Posted by Joel on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 22:47pm

What a horrible year here, i feel like the people who've been stubbed the previous years will get in and nobody from this class will get in their first year.

Only Slipknot and Missy Elliott have a shot at entering the hall, in my opioin.

P. Didddy is a good producer and has made some huge songs, but as a rap fan I would not want to see him in the hall

Posted by Cloonie on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 18:33pm

Going by our site's projects the only worthy person here is Missy Elliot (excluding timbaland as a producer)
That seems about right.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 11.30.11 @ 14:25pm

is this the worst year ever for picks?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 09.7.08 @ 04:36am

No. I would say that di(stink)tion belongs to the eligibility classes of 2031, 2032, 2033, 2034, 2035 and 2036. Hopefully this trend will discontinue in 2037 and beyond.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 12.8.11 @ 10:48am

Except, '31 has Fleet Foxes, '32 has Vampire Weekend, and '33 has Lady Gaga. All of which are creeping out of the "too-soon-to-tell" phase. This class has Missy Elliott, who I say is about in the same league as the three I mentioned.

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 02:03am

Sigur Ros should be considered, both by the the real Hall of Fame and our Hall of Fame. Premiere Post-Rock group.

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 02:19am

OK, I take that back then. Paul, the three you mentioned definitely have legitimate cases.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 04:49am

If you're still here, Tahvo, maybe you can help me out. Gass mentions the term "post-rock" on this page as a term for the group Sigur Ros.

Just what exactly is "post-rock"? Is this some ambient New Age stuff?

I consider myself at least somewhat wide-open when it comes to music. Although I may not sound like a person who likes certain artists, I've got everyone from The Flamingos to the Flatlanders alongside some harder-edged stuff.

I guess what I'm asking is, will I like Sigur Ros?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 06:28am

I don't know what exactly "post-rock" means, I know what artists get this label attached to them (like Sigur Ros who I'd consider more ambient/electronic) but I guess it's the new "post-punk"

Anyway, to answer your question, I think you'd like Sigur Ros, the best known Icelandic musical export since Bjork. I like them and I like everything from the Everly Brothers to Einsturzende Neubauten.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 07:24am

I guess you'd have to also look at Creed & Erykah Badu. Third Eye Blind started out OK, but haven't done much lately.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 07:46am