The Jesus and Mary Chain

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2009 (The 2010 Induction Ceremony)

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Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2033 (ranked #336) .


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Psychocandy (1985)
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Just Like Honey (1985)

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Will The Jesus and Mary Chain be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

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well they should be in there, but this is run by americans isn't it? so who ####in knows?

Posted by ben on Thursday, 07.27.06 @ 07:55am


You're right they should be but I'd be really surprised if they ever do get in.

Posted by AZ Dave on Friday, 08.18.06 @ 22:35pm


i don't want they be inducted...
they have even a bad name!

Posted by coop on Friday, 03.30.07 @ 06:20am


Another in a long linge of bands that fall into the should they vs. will they conundrum. I don't think anyone who's followed the course of alt will deny the Brothers Reid their due, but the voters, they're not really the most alert group of people if you haven't noticed.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 18:33pm


Psychocandy was groundbreaking and incredibly influential in it's flawlessly mixing three minute pop songs with ear splitting noise. The album sounds groundbreaking even today. However, they're not HOF material whatsoever.

Posted by Jeff on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 19:52pm


Will probably not get into the HOF, but I'd love to see at least a few JAMC Psychocandy era artifacts end up in permanent displays in Cleveland.

Posted by Nicky on Thursday, 07.12.07 @ 06:05am


get them in there. BRMC and other noisy bands like the ravonettes could not exist without JaMC. And the Pixies were influenced by them too. Classic pop songs with tons of noise, lots of bands do this stuff. They influenced Curve who in turn influenced Garbage, yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by gary on Wednesday, 12.26.07 @ 15:01pm


I Definately think they should be inducted i own every album by them and think they are a very influential band on a lot of new music today

Posted by april on Tuesday, 01.29.08 @ 12:48pm


A nice band but no big deal. This is the end of it, from now on it will be scraping the bottom of the barrell save Guns N Roses and Oasis. The Jam are not in nor are the Damned. No Link Wray, no Dick Dale The Red Hots will get in with thier tired act.

Posted by Jay on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 00:45am


"This is the end of it, from now on it will be scraping the bottom of the barrel save GNR and Oasis"

Apparently this is now the bottom of the barrel:

Nirvana / Pearl Jam / Metallica / Def Lep / Bon Jovi / Smiths / Megadeth / My Bloody Valentine / Primal Scream / Teenage Fanclub / Radiohead / Alice in Chains / Soundgarden / Blur / Rage Against the Machine / Beck / Smashing Pumpkins / Dave Matthews Band / Korn / White Stripes / Coldplay / Queens of the Stone Age / Franz Ferdinand

I certainly feel the worse for wear for having lived through all of that + some before it. I do agree w/ you on the names you posted before, though. They should be in as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 05:13am


Yeah Korn, Def Lep, RATM and Bon Jovi are definitely bottom of the barrel.

Posted by Liam on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 11:28am


They may be bottom of the barrel to you, Liam, but judging from the amount of posts on this site, B. Jovi, Def Lep, Korn, and RATM must have moved somebody out there. You can say it's all fanboys, but folks on the street heard quality there. They all stand a better chance of getting in the Hall than J&MC. Who knows, maybe someone on the voting committee will come to their defense....

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 16:54pm


Jeez Liam, Quit Being Susch a Stuck-Up Snob. Lots of People Enjoy These Guys. Have You Even Listened To Them? Do You Have Anything Good To Say About Any Band?!?!

Posted by Tyson on Saturday, 12.27.08 @ 09:50am


YES:

Nirvana
Pearl Jam
The Smiths
My Bloody Valentine
Radiohead
Beck

MAYBE:

Primal Scream
Teenage Fanclub
Blur
Rage Against the Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
White Stripes

NO:

Def Lep
Bon Jovi
Megadeth
Alice in Chains
Dave Matthews Band
Korn
Coldplay
Queens of the Stone Age
Franz Ferdinand

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 06.2.09 @ 21:07pm


Well... maybe on DMB

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 06.2.09 @ 21:08pm


YES:

Nirvana - Agree
Pearl Jam - Agree
The Smiths - Agree
My Bloody Valentine - Disagree
Radiohead - Agree
Beck - Disagree

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - No
Teenage Fanclub - No
Blur - Yes
Rage Against the Machine - Most over-rated band
Smashing Pumpkins - yes
Soundgarden - yes
White Stripes - no

NO:

Def Lep - yes
Bon Jovi - no
Megadeth- yes
Alice in Chains - yes
Dave Matthews Band - no
Korn - no
Coldplay -no
Queens of the Stone Age - pending
Franz Ferdinand - no

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 06.2.09 @ 21:13pm


YES:

Nirvana - Agree
Pearl Jam - Agree
The Smiths - Perhaps
My Bloody Valentine - Agree
Radiohead - Agree
Beck - Agree

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - No
Teenage Fanclub - Perhaps
Blur - Yes
Rage Against the Machine - Perhaps
Smashing Pumpkins - Yes
Soundgarden - Yes
White Stripes - Yes

NO:

Def Lep - Yes
Bon Jovi - Perhaps
Megadeth - Perhaps
Alice in Chains - Yes
Dave Matthews Band - Perhaps
Korn - Yes
Coldplay - Perhaps
Queens of the Stone Age - Yes
Franz Ferdinand - Too Early to Tell

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 06.2.09 @ 21:07pm
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Great list.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 06.4.09 @ 04:09am


YES:

Nirvana - Agree
Pearl Jam - Agree
The Smiths - Perhaps
My Bloody Valentine - No
Radiohead - Perhaps
Beck - No

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - No
Teenage Fanclub - No
Blur - No
Rage Against the Machine - Perhaps
Smashing Pumpkins - Yes
Soundgarden - Yes
White Stripes - Perhaps

NO:

Def Lep - Yes
Bon Jovi - No
Megadeth - No
Alice in Chains - Yes
Dave Matthews Band - No
Korn - No
Coldplay - Perhaps
Queens of the Stone Age - Never Heard of Them
Franz Ferdinand - Never Heard of Them

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 06.4.09 @ 05:33am


Paul - check out Queens of the Stone Age - you may like them.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 06.4.09 @ 08:17am


Sorry but Red Hot Chili Peppers are gonna be the #1 in this one.

Posted by Anthony on Tuesday, 08.4.09 @ 02:19am


They deserve it, but it's not happening... nobody has any idea who these guys are.

shame, really.

Posted by Kyle on Sunday, 08.9.09 @ 19:17pm


Hell yes! They've got a crazy odd sound and have influenced plenty of people. However, I kind of hope they don't. They're too cool to be in the rock hall of fame.

Posted by tomas on Thursday, 02.4.10 @ 15:31pm


YES:

Nirvana - Agree
Pearl Jam - Agree
The Smiths - Agree
My Bloody Valentine - No
Radiohead - Agree
Beck - No

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - Maybe
Teenage Fanclub - No
Blur - Yes
Rage Against the Machine - No
Smashing Pumpkins - Yes
Soundgarden - Yes
White Stripes - No

NO:

Def Lep - No
Bon Jovi - No
Megadeth - Yes
Alice in Chains - Yes
Dave Matthews Band - No
Korn - No
Coldplay - Perhaps
Queens of the Stone Age - Yes
Franz Ferdinand - No

Posted by lame on Tuesday, 05.4.10 @ 19:32pm


Nirvana - Yes
Pearl Jam - Yes
The Smiths - Yes
My Bloody Valentine - Can't say for sure, but it sounds like I should say yes
Radiohead - Yes
Beck - Maybe

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - Maybe
Teenage Fanclub - Maybe
Blur - Yes
Rage Against the Machine - Maybe
Smashing Pumpkins - Yes
Soundgarden - Yes
White Stripes - As of now no, but things could change

NO:

Def Lep - Maybe
Bon Jovi - No
Megadeth - Yes
Alice in Chains - Yes
Dave Matthews Band - Perhaps
Korn - Maybe
Coldplay - See White Stripes
Queens of the Stone Age - Maybe
Franz Ferdinand - Too Early to Tell

I'm leaning "Yes" towards J&MC but they most likely won't get in

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 06.12.10 @ 15:55pm


So, Jeff, if they were influential and innovative, how exactly are they not HOF material?

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 07.27.10 @ 16:04pm


Even if they only ever released "Psychocandy" they would deserve the Hall. They ALMOST single handedly changed the face of music in the last 30 years or so.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 21:14pm


Jesus Jones isn't here yet.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 08:42am


But what does that have to do with the Jesus and Mary Chain?

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 08:48am


How about Jesus Christ?
Accept no substitutes.

Posted by Evangelist on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 10:00am


Nirvana - Yes
Pearl Jam - Yes
The Smiths - Yes
My Bloody Valentine - Maybe...
Radiohead - Yes
Beck - Yes

MAYBE:

Primal Scream - No
Teenage Fanclub - No
Blur - Yes, even though I dont like them.
Rage Against the Machine - Ditto
Smashing Pumpkins - Yes
Soundgarden - Yes
White Stripes - Overall, Yeah

NO:

Def Lep - Yes
Bon Jovi - Yes
Megadeth - Yes
Alice in Chains - Yes (Why would you say no Chalkie?)
Dave Matthews Band - Possibly
Korn - No
Coldplay - 1 more good album and I'll say yes
Queens of the Stone Age - Possibly
Franz Ferdinand - Probably not.

Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 11:24am


OK, I'm weighing in on this yes/maybe/no for the RRHOF thing:

Yes:

Nirvana / Pearl Jam / The Smiths / Radiohead / Blur / Smashing Pumpkins / Soundgarden / The White Stripes / Alice in Chains

Maybe:

My Bloody Valentine / Beck / Primal Scream / Rage Against the Machine / Def Leppard / Bon Jovi / Megadeth / Coldplay / Franz Ferdinand / Queens of the Stone Age

No:

The Dave Matthews Band / Korn / Teenage Fanclub

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 11:56am


I've changed mine a bit:

Yes: MBV, AIC, Rage, Megadeth, Nirvana, Blur, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Radiohead, The Smiths

Maybe: Primal Scream (Screamadelica was a landmark album in dance-rock and the acid house scene, but how much impact beyond that is something I still have to think about), Bon Jovi, Beck, Dave Matthews Band (I could go either way here), The White Stripes, Korn (leaning yes even if I don't care for them), Queens of the Stone Age, Coldplay (on the right track, and at this point they'll likely get in regardless)

No: Franz Ferdinand (too early to tell, really), Teenage Fanclub (heard of them, not listened to them)

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 10:17am


Sam, Teenage Fanclub were something of a 90's power pop band, though they also could be classified as alternative... This could be me oversimplifying, but basically they didn't do anything Big Star, Badfinger and Dinosaur Jr. did before them, so no to them for RRHOF (they're still worth checking out though, I'm not a huge fan myself)

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 10:27am


"Franz Ferdinand (too early to tell, really)"

I agree it's too early to tell, hence my "maybe" but "no" works too.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 10:29am


Darklands should've received a closer look; my fault for not recognizing that it's on equal footing with Psychocandy (musically of course).

Posted by Sam on Monday, 09.5.11 @ 18:53pm


Influence: i'd definetly say they were influnetial on the shoegaze and noise scene. 20%
Innovation: They invented noise pop, but that's not really that big of a genre. 20%
Critical Respect: They are pretty lvoe dby critics. 20%
Commercial sucess: apart from a bit in britain not alot. 5%
(10% boost for having an album and a track inducted)

75%, deserve to be in, maybe first ballot but can wait a bit.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 09.18.11 @ 15:44pm


"Yes:

Nirvana / Pearl Jam / The Smiths / Radiohead / Blur / Smashing Pumpkins / Soundgarden / The White Stripes / Alice in Chains

Maybe:

My Bloody Valentine / Beck / Primal Scream / Rage Against the Machine / Def Leppard / Bon Jovi / Megadeth / Coldplay / Franz Ferdinand / Queens of the Stone Age

No:

The Dave Matthews Band / Korn / Teenage Fanclub"

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I'ved changed my mind a bit from my original post. I could see Beck getting in, so a "yes" vote from me. I don't like the Dave Matthews Band or Korn but people have convinced me over time as to why these two wouldn't necessarily be out of place in the Hall of Fame (Cheesecrop convinced me on Korn somewhere, I don't like 'em, but I'll give them credit).

I know highbrows despise BJ and DL but they have their places on the maybe pile for reasons we all know. I've started to lean no to QotSA as Kyuss were overall the more influential and innovative band. However, QotSA had the commercial success and popularity and will probably have a case going for them purely on name recognition. (If the Hall were trying to sell seats and people heard Kyuss was performing, they would probably think something along the lines of "Kyuss? Isn't that a German curse word or something?")

I've also started to lean no to Primal Scream as I just can't see the Hall ever considering them. If anyone wants to come to Primal Scream's defence, I welcome it.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 12:59pm


Apologies for the redundant use of "probably."

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 13:02pm


I find the unwavering worship of Soundgarden and Alice In Chains (and the entire "grunge" scene in general) on this site quite comical.

Teenage Fanclub are only undeserving due to lack of popularity/ignorance. They are a great band with some very good/great albums.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 15:16pm


"Teenage Fanclub are only undeserving due to lack of popularity/ignorance."

Or should I say, "Due to ignorance/lack of popularity".

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 15:29pm


I respect grunge, it's nowhere near my favourite style of music, but if you're going to put Nirvana and PJ in the Hall, Soundgarden should be in too, IMO.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 15:49pm


Actually, out of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, I only consider myself a fan of Soundgarden.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 11.24.11 @ 15:50pm


"I've also started to lean no to Primal Scream as I just can't see the Hall ever considering them. If anyone wants to come to Primal Scream's defence, I welcome it."

Funny you should mention that on this page, since Bobby Gillespie got his start with the Mary Chain. He played drums on Psychocandy, and was key in getting them noticed because he was friends with Alan McGee and brought them to his attention.

I can't give much of an opinion on PS, not as familiar with them as I should be, but I'll have a go. All I know about them is their first album (Sonic Flower Groove) and Screamadelica. The former is little more than a pale attempt at what The Stone Roses would end up doing, without the dance influences. The latter is perhaps the most overrated British album of all time. It's claimed to be this revolutionary melding of house music and traditional rock structures. Well for one thing the only time that really happens is Loaded, for one thing. For another The Stone Roses and Happy Mondays (mostly the latter) did that first and better. It's an album made by followers, not leaders, and anything you hear about it's "importance" can be ignored. I haven't discussed the music, no, but that's just as overrated as the impact. Movin' On Up is a solid Stonesy tune, the gospel and house mix that is Come Together (which actually DOES sound kind of ground-breaking) is interesting, Don't Fight It Feel It is a decent house tune but apart from that... meh. 4 tunes out of 12 is nowhere near enough for an album to be canonized, especially when most of the ideas on them were done earlier and better. Jury's out on the rest of the catalogue for now, but based on those two bits of evidence it's a definite no. Even solely in the context of Alternative/Indie there's perhaps as many as 20-25 bands currently eligible and not in (on both sides of the Atlantic) that I'd put in first, including The J&MC.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 12.29.11 @ 06:06am


Excellent post, Sam. You've convinced me to move Primal Scream to the "no" pile.

You've also convinced me to move Happy Mondays up a few spots in my snubs queue. Not saying they're exactly Hall of Fame worthy, but they've still got a good case going for them.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 12.29.11 @ 07:16am


Granted the rest of their catalogue may shift me, but I'm just basing it on those two albums for now.

You're right about the Mondays. The British press does sometimes canonize them, but I just don't get why The Stone Roses always get put on the pedestal. Granted, Ryder and co. were nowhere near as important to the Britpop scene (though they did make some contribution) but they were more important to the rock-house music mix and to rave culture and actually had 2 iconic/groundbreaking albums as opposed to the one (admittedly great one) by the Roses. There's still quite a few people ahead of both in my snubs queue though.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 17:53pm


I agree, both are good but I don't think the Hall will get to either for a long time (if ever).

Let's get Joy Division, New Order, the Smiths, the Cure and the Fall in first as these are the bands the Hall will get to eventually (well, maybe not the Fall as I don't know if the committee in charge even know who they are, and I'm almost certain they'll do a joint induction for JD and NO but I can still hope!)

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 18:06pm


And since I'm on this page I've still got hopes for the Jesus and Mary Chain and Cocteau Twins but it might be wishful thinking.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 18:07pm


Saw the band in Lexington recently. Performed an energetic set. As is their reputation, they were 45 mins late to begin their set (which pissed me off a bit).

They were a bit more hardrockish than I had thought. The lead singer sounds quite British when speaking, yet not British at all when singing (as opposed to the lead singer for Psycadelic Furs, for example, who sounds very Northern English when either singing or speaking).

A Hall candidate, IMO, but behind a long list of other acts not yet inducted. Glad I saw them.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 07:59am


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