King Crimson

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Eligible since: 1995

First Recording: 1969

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King Crimson
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Inducted into Rock Hall Revisited in 1997 (ranked #145) .

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In the Court of the Crimson King (1969)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970)
Lizard (1970)
Islands (1971)
Lark's Tongues in Aspic (1973)
Red (1974)
Starless and Bible Black (1974)
Discipline (1981)
Beat (1982)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984)
THRAK (1995)
The Power to Believe (2003)

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21st Century Schizoid Man (1969)
The Court of the Crimson King (1969)
Epitaph (1969)
I Talk to the Wind (1969)
In the Wake of Poseidon (1970)
Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Pts. 1 & 2 (1973)
Starless (1974)
Red (1974)
Fallen Angel (1974)

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The chances of King Crimson being nominated for the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, in the not too distant future, has just increased exponentially with the induction of Rush. Oh and by the way John York, just how much of Rush's catalogue have you actually heard? I am definitely not "dumb," nor a "metal head," but I have supported Rush's induction since 1998. As far as King Crimson is concerned: "In The Court Of The Crimson King," "Larks Tongues In Aspic," " Red," "Discipline" and "Beat" are all brilliant albums. I also like 'Sleepless' and 'Three Of A Perfect Pair' from "Three Of A Perfect Pair." As to which members should be inducted, I would suggest the following: Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, Michael Giles, Greg Lake, Ian McDonald, Tony Levin, Peter Sinfield and John
Wetton.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 20:52pm


The Court of the Crimson King is a great album.
The R&RHF shuns entire genres of rock music. Prog has never fared too well.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 02/5/2013 @ 03:17am


Astrodog,

Rush's induction bodes well for the induction of more progressive rock acts in the future. The members of Rush will likely endorse several progressive rock groups during their induction ceremony. I would not be surprised if Geddy Lee did not personally endorse The Moody Blues, Yes, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, etc. I would not expect King Crimson to get inducted next year, but then again you never know.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 02/5/2013 @ 08:50am


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05/23/2013 @ 10:16am


I am hoping that soon, "A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson," "The Compact King Crimson" and "The Concise King Crimson" will eventually be released as remastered expanded CDs with the blessing of Robert Fripp and the assistance of Steven Wilson.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/15/2013 @ 04:33am


As I had said before, I have enjoyed several albums by King Crimson. "In The Court Of The Crimson King," "Lark's Tongues In Aspic," "Red," "Discipline," "Beat" and "Thrak" are all brilliant albums. I also like several songs from "Three Of A Perfect Pair" and I would really like to see Steven Wilson and Robert Fripp release a re-issue of "A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" on remastered cd, as well.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 01/2/2014 @ 01:10am


Two of this year's inductees: Peter Gabriel and Daryl Hall (of H&O) have worked with Crimson King Robert Fripp. Peter Gabriel's second eponymously-titled solo album from 1978, had both guitar and production work by Fripp. Also, Daryl Hall recorded an album with Robert Fripp called "Sacred Songs"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 01/2/2014 @ 01:25am


why are we arguing about who's better! King Crimson and Rush both are great prog bands, so is yes,genesis gabriel era,dream theater,tull,porcupine tree,ELP, and so on! LONG LIVE PROG!

Posted by eric on Tuesday, 01/21/2014 @ 22:53pm


"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Eric you are correct, Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

"In The Court Of The Crimson King" *****
"In The Wake Of Poseidon" ****
"Lizard" ** 1/2
"Islands" *** 1/2
"Lark's Tongues In Aspic" *****
"Starless And Bible Black" ****
"Red" *****

"The Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" *****

"Discipline" *****
"Beat" *****
"Three Of A Perfect Pair" **** 1/2

"The Compact King Crimson" *****

"The Concise King Crimson" *****

"Thrak" *****
"Thrakattak *****
"Vroom" ****
"B'Boom Live In Argentina" *****




Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 01/23/2014 @ 08:35am


"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Eric you are correct, Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

"In The Court Of The Crimson King" *****
"In The Wake Of Poseidon" ****
"Lizard" ** 1/2
"Islands" *** 1/2
"Lark's Tongues In Aspic" *****
"Starless And Bible Black" ****
"Red" *****

"A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" *****

"Discipline" *****
"Beat" *****
"Three Of A Perfect Pair" **** 1/2

"The Compact King Crimson" *****

"The Concise King Crimson" *****

"Vroom" **** 1/2
"B'Boom: Live In Argentina" *****
"Thrak" *****
"Thrakattak" *****

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 01/23/2014 @ 08:49am


By the way, King Crimson is the cover artist for this month's issue of PROG magazine.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/21/2014 @ 00:54am


King Crimson were not a band. They were the one of the greatest orchestras of the 20ith Century. Robert Fripp was of course the conductor and first chair. His complete discography lists more than seven hundred releases over four decades. Truly one of the greatest composers of our era. In a thousand years, He will be remembered for his contributions to music theory.

Posted by Mikhail on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 22:12pm


King Crimson are now reformed, probably for the last time. The deserve to be inducted. Now or never!

Posted by Markco on Friday, 02/13/2015 @ 04:04am


I do think that King Crimson will be nominated next year for induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/9/2015 @ 19:31pm


Prior to Rush's induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, the members of Rush had mentioned four bands who should have already been inducted into the Rock Hall: Yes, Deep Purple, The Moody Blues and King Crimson. All of these bands were hugely influential.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 11/23/2015 @ 02:07am


I do not understand the aversion of the Hall to induct Prog bands, or, bands like Little Feat.
Just because you don't like the music, or that prog bands didn't have the sales numbers of a Michael Jackson,Or Fleetwood Mac,does not mean that these great players don't deserve induction.
Nobody has thought to even mention Jethro Tull in any of this.
Oh well, maybe the Hall will one day visit their proctologist for some badly needed brain surgery, because that's where their brains are located.

Posted by mrmusic248 on Thursday, 12/17/2015 @ 03:37am


mrmusic248,

I do not understand the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame's aversion to "prog" either, but I certainly do think that Rush's induction will change things. As far as the sales of certain progressive rock artists are concerned, do we really believe that Rush has only sold 40 million albums, worldwide? Are we that naïve? Rush still packs arenas and sometimes stadia 40 years later.

As far as I am concerned, That 40,000,000 sales figure for Rush, is probably the biggest lie ever perpetrated upon the public. It does not even remotely make sense, but the record industry is undoubtedly upset that Rush has been so successful and does not cater to their whims.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they are 7th on my list of favorite bands, slightly above Duran Duran and slightly below Gentle Giant. If King Crimson does appear on the ballot, I will vote for them!

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/17/2015 @ 08:56am


I think that the nomination of King Crimson will be much sooner than later. Of course, the complicated logistics of inducting various members may be the chief reason why King Crimson has not been inducted yet.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/17/2016 @ 16:54pm


King Crimson is seventh on my list of greatest progressive rock bands, slightly below Gentle Giant and slightly above, Duran Duran.

I have not really written much about King Crimson, compared to what I have written about these other "prog" bands: Rush, The Moody Blues, Yes, Duran Duran and Electric Light Orchestra.

That situation is about to change.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/15/2016 @ 11:55am


I was hoping to write more about King Crimson, but I suppose that will have to wait until later.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 18:55pm


Finally, the newly remastered and expanded versions of "Beat," "Three Of A Different Pair" and "Thrak" are available; I have been waiting several years for this to occur.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 11/2/2016 @ 10:22am


RIP Greg Lake here too!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/9/2016 @ 22:36pm


I am very saddened to hear about the recent passing of Greg Lake, co-founder, former bassist and vocalist for King Crimson. As far as members of the King Crimson alumni who have already passed on, Greg Lake was indeed a giant.

Greg Lake had played bass and sang on "In The Court of The Crimson King" and on several songs on "In The Wake Of Poseidon."

Greg Lake will definitely be missed. :-(

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/10/2016 @ 13:48pm


My prediction that the members they will induct are

Robert Fripp
Greg Lake
Michael Giles
Ian McDonald
Boz Burrell
Ian Wallace
John Wetton
Bill Bruford
Adrian Belew
Tony Levin

Posted by Nicky Joe on Friday, 12/16/2016 @ 07:07am


Nicky Joe,

That is an interesting list. I think that if King Crimson is nominated later this year, then they will be inducted. I think that the inducted members will be:

01. Robert Fripp
02. Greg Lake
03. Michael Giles
04. Ian MacDonald
05. David Cross
06. John Wetton
07. Tony Levin
08. Adrian Belew
09. Bill Bruford

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/8/2017 @ 06:31am


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01/8/2017 @ 17:54pm


Nicky Joe and Enigmaticus

You both actually think Peter Sinfield will be left out of the King Crimson induction? He was an original member and the band's lyricist for four years. He's sort of like the Grateful Dead's Robert Hunter.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01/8/2017 @ 18:01pm


Roy,

If I am not mistaken, Peter Sinfield had also written lyrics for Emerson, Lake & Palmer, in addition to King Crimson. However, Robert Fripp and he have apparently had a strained relationship for several decades, due to Sinfield's focus on fantasy, rather than reality in his lyrics. Instead, King Crimson's new lyricist was Richard Palmer-James, a friend of vocalist John Wetton.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 01:24am


Roy,

If I am not mistaken, Peter Sinfield had also written lyrics for Emerson, Lake & Palmer, in addition to King Crimson. However, Robert Fripp and he have apparently had a strained relationship for several decades, due to Sinfield's focus on fantasy, rather than reality in his lyrics. Instead, King Crimson's new lyricist was Richard Palmer-James, a friend of vocalist John Wetton until 1974, or so. Then King Crimson went on an indefinite hiatus, only to return in 1981 with the brilliant studio album, "Discipline" and a new lyricist and guitarist, Adrian Belew.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 01:35am


Peter Sinfield on keyboards and synthesizers as well. The Rock Hall might give him the Nick Simper (Deep Purple), Peter Banks (Yes) treatment!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/10/2017 @ 04:37am



It is a very sad day indeed. Former bassist and vocalist for King Crimson, U.K. and Asia had passed away today. This means that two of King Crimson's former members (Greg Lake and John Wetton) have both passed away fairly recently. My most sincere condolences to the family and friends of John Wetton. :-(

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 02/1/2017 @ 00:56am


It is a very sad day indeed. Former bassist and vocalist for King Crimson, U.K. and Asia, John Wetton, had passed away today. This means that two of King Crimson's former members (Greg Lake and John Wetton) have both passed away fairly recently. My most sincere condolences to the family and friends of John Wetton. :-(

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 02/2/2017 @ 03:24am


If the Rock Hall really is capping the inductees at 8

King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
07. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
08. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/21/2017 @ 06:19am


I'm not sure if it's an oversight on your part, Roy, but there's no way the late John Wetton will get excluded from a King Crimson induction. He's a core member of his era of the band, and his trilogy of albums are some of the greatest the band has ever released.

If I were a betting man, I'm guessing Ian McDonald will be the one getting the "John Rutsey" treatment from the Hall (he only played on the debut, IIRC), and these 8 (if there truly is a cap with that number as the limit) will be the ones enshrined:

1. Robert Fripp
2. Greg Lake
3. Michael Giles
4. Peter Sinfield
5. Bill Bruford
6. John Wetton
7. Adrian Belew
8. Tony Levin

Posted by Joseph on Monday, 03/13/2017 @ 06:53am


Yes, you are right, and that would mean Ian McDonald won't be a two-time inductee (Foreigner).

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03/13/2017 @ 19:22pm


Roy and Joseph,

However, Ian McDonald was an integral part of King Crimson for co-writing, 'I Talk To The Wind' and 'The Court Of The Crimson King,' so I think that there may be 9 members inducted, instead.


Robert Fripp
Adrian Belew
Tony Levin
John Wetton
Bill Bruford
Greg Lake
Ian McDonald
Michael Giles
Peter Sinfield

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 03/14/2017 @ 10:52am


Yes, Enigmaticus and Roy, I do believe 9 (or even 10) is the ideal inductee list for a band like King Crimson. By adding Ian McDonald in, all the original members get enshrined. Plus, you can make a case for Mel Collins or David Cross, who were official members on multiple albums.

Anyway, Yes' Geoff Downes (who first mentioned about the Hall's "cap") never mentioned a specific number, but it should be arbitrary depending on the band/group (to be fair to those who have had several line-up changes).

Posted by Joseph on Tuesday, 03/14/2017 @ 22:19pm


Rush was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2013. Yes will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2017. Will King Crimson be next?

Why should King Crimson be inducted?

Of their many members over the years, who should be inducted?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 03/25/2017 @ 06:34am


I have also written about King Crimson, although somewhat less extensively.

Here is my first King Crimson posting;

The chances of King Crimson being nominated for the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, in the not too distant future, has just increased exponentially with the induction of Rush. Oh and by the way John York, just how much of Rush's catalogue have you actually heard? I am definitely not "dumb," nor a "metal head," but I have supported Rush's induction since 1998. As far as King Crimson is concerned: "In The Court Of The Crimson King," "Larks Tongues In Aspic," " Red," "Discipline" and "Beat" are all brilliant albums. I also like 'Sleepless' and 'Three Of A Perfect Pair' from "Three Of A Perfect Pair." As to which members should be inducted, I would suggest the following: Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, Michael Giles, Greg Lake, Ian McDonald, Tony Levin, Peter Sinfield and John Wetton.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 02.3.13 @ 20:52pm

Unfortunately, Greg Lake and John Wetton are no longer with us. :-(

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09/26/2017 @ 12:53pm


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01/6/2018 @ 13:27pm


I think the Rock Hall will put Jethro Tull and King Crimson on the same ballot.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/19/2018 @ 10:03am


What's King Crimson's anthem?

…their Aqualung
…their Smoke On The Water
…their Roundabout
…their I'm Just A Singer In A Rock And Roll Band

Posted by Oozzies on Wednesday, 02/28/2018 @ 23:02pm


21st Century Schizoid Man, of course.

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 03/1/2018 @ 00:11am


Bill Bruford was interviewed the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame this year! Therefore, King Crimson will be nominated for the 2019 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and Bill Bruford will get his second induction.

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Posted by Roy on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 09:07am


Roy,

Unfortunately, this calls for a great deal of speculation. Although a nomination for King Crimson may occur, an induction is certainly much more difficult. Even though King Crimson has been a very influential band, not that many of the voting populace, outside of perhaps for the prog community have even heard of them. This was not the case with the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues); those artists are much more popular overall. If you want to see King Crimson inducted into the Rock,Hall, you may need to start a petition drive, or wait for Jethro Tull’s and Duran Duran’s induction in 2019.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 09:40am


Roy,

Unfortunately, this calls for a great deal of speculation. Although a nomination for King Crimson may occur, an induction is certainly much more difficult. Even though King Crimson has been a very influential band, not that many of the voting populace, outside of perhaps for the prog community have even heard of them. This was not the case with the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues); those artists are much more popular overall. If you want to see King Crimson inducted into the Rock Hall, you may need to start a petition drive, or wait for Jethro Tull’s and Duran Duran’s induction in 2019.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 10:02am


Very unlikely that King Crimson will receive a nomination in 2019 or immediate future.

Posted by Mark on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 10:48am


The other holy trinity will all be inducted by 2021: Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 11:32am


Here’s how I really see the prog-rock train in the next few years.

2019: Jethro Tull
2020: Asia
2021: Emerson, Lake & Palmer
2022: Procol Harum
2023: King Crimson

I don’t think Gentle Giant, STYX, Kanas, and Supertramp will ever get the pass, but it’s doubtful for one of them.

Posted by The Dude on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 11:48am


*Kansas

Posted by The Dude on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 11:50am


Asia has no shot of EVER making it, and ELP is almost as unlikely at this point...
#giveitupalready

Posted by EDS on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 12:12pm


C’mon - You know you want Steve Howe, Greg Lake, John Wetton, and Carl Palmer to be multi-inductees.

Posted by The Dude on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 12:23pm


Asia is 80s! Go read their reviews and album ratings in the Rolling Stone Album Guides, 2nd, 3rd, 4th editions, all albums had 1 or 2 stars out of 5. Asia is out!

If you don't think Emerson, Lake & Palmer, King Crimson, and Jethro Tull will ever be inducted, you clearly have not been paying close attention to what has been going on at the Rock Hall since 2010. The nominating committee has changed, the inductees have changed. The 3 remaining major 60s-70s Prog acts are all going in JT, KC, ELP. Then the door will be locked on 60s-70s Prog.

Bill Bruford will get a second induction!

Keith Emerson will get 2 inductions!

The nominators know this.

There are enough inductees now who will vote for prog along with whomever will vote for prog from the nominating committee, and they will have enough votes for induction.

Inductees who will vote for King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer:

3 members of Rush
7 living members of Yes
6 living members of Chicago
5 living members of the Moody Blues
5 living inducted members of Deep Purple, 1 hiding, not voting
4 members of Cheap Trick
5 members of Genesis
4 members of Alice Cooper
5 members of Metallica
2 members of Nirvana

Pearl Jam, Green Day, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Pink Floyd, and so on, and so on, and so on!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 14:16pm


Very unlikely the ELP will receive a nomination.

Posted by Mark on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 14:26pm


I don't see how ELP's chances are so slim. They're VERY well respected by their peers and the musicians that have followed them and "Karn Evil 9" still gets regular radio play, which means that they're at least somewhat recognizable to the public.

King Crimson, on the other hand, are a bit less known, but again, they're very well respected and Kanye's sampling of "21st Century Schizoid Man" may help them out in the long run.

If the MC5 can get nominations, then I don't see how ELP or King Crimson can't, with ELP probably having better chances than the other two. They're all three very important though and are worthy of induction.

Posted by Steve Z on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 16:32pm


Roy,

Duran Duran (2019), Jethro Tull (2019) and Supertramp (2020) will add significantly to the voters for King Crimson. That is one major reason why Duran Duran and Jethro Tull need to be inducted next. That is also why, King Crimson will most probably be inducted in 2021. Plus Duran Duran’s votes & Rush’s votes will probably open the door for a nomination for Roxy Music also.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 04/24/2018 @ 01:37am


Since, the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) have finally been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, it is now possible for King Crimson to finally receive a nomination. I do not expect King Crimson to receive an immediate induction, however, unless of course, Jethro Tull does not receive a nomination later this year, but that is highly unlikely. Progressive rock enthusiasts will definitely want to see King Crimson inducted, but may have to deal with the induction of two other major “progressive rock” bands first. Both Jethro Tull and Duran Duran are now on the Rock Hall’s
radar. Jethro Tull due to their familiarity with the American public plus their 50th anniversary tour.

Duran Duran has had an induction campaign going for approximately 9 years, have released two more critically accepted albums (“All You Need Is Now” and “Paper Gods”) and two recently released phenomenal concert videos (“A Diamond In The Mind: Live 2011” and “Duran Duran: American Express Unstaged.”) Plus, Duran Duran is the #1 snub on at least one major website.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 05/10/2018 @ 10:32am


I had initially been introduced to the music of King Crimson via “Discipline” 34 years ago while living near Chicago, Illinois. However with many things prog, I did not initially get into their music. I would later rediscover the music of King Crimson nearly 32 years ago, while stationed onboard an aircraft carrier homeported in Yokosuka, Japan. One of my favorite record stores in Tokyo is Wave in Roppongi. While at Wave, I had discovered a cd compilation titled “The Compact King Crimson.” This discovery would further spur my interest in discovering several more King Crimson recordings, including the studio albums: “In The Court Of The Crimson King,” “Red,” the aforementioned “Discipline,” “Beat” and “Three Of A Different Pair” and purchasing them on cd.

Two years later, while stationed onboard an aircraft carrier at N.A.S. Alameda, I would take frequent trips to San Franscisco on the weekend and I would purchase a cassette copy of “A Young Person’s Guide To King Crimson” at the Brentano’s bookstore. As a result of listening to this recording quite frequently, I would be inspired to purchase most of King Crimson’s early catalog on cd, including “Lark’s Tongues In Aspic,” “In The Wake Of Poseidon,” “Islands,” ‘Starless And Bible Black” and “Lizard.”

Unfortunately, “Lizard” had been the only early King Crimson recording which I had not appreciated.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 06/9/2018 @ 11:59am


I had initially been introduced to the music of King Crimson via “Discipline” 34 years ago while living near Chicago, Illinois. However as it tends to happen with many things progressive, I did not initially get into their music. I would later rediscover the music of King Crimson nearly 32 years ago, while stationed onboard an aircraft carrier homeported in Yokosuka, Japan. One of my favorite record stores in Tokyo is Wave in Roppongi. While at Wave, I had discovered a cd compilation titled “The Compact King Crimson.” This discovery would further spur my interest in discovering several more King Crimson recordings, including the studio albums: “In The Court Of The Crimson King,” “Red,” the aforementioned “Discipline,” “Beat” and “Three Of A Different Pair” and purchasing them on cd.

Two years later, while stationed onboard an aircraft carrier at N.A.S. Alameda, I would take frequent trips to San Franscisco on the weekend and I would purchase a cassette copy of “A Young Person’s Guide To King Crimson” at the Brentano’s bookstore. As a result of listening to this recording quite frequently, I would be inspired to purchase most of King Crimson’s early catalog on cd, including “Lark’s Tongues In Aspic,” “In The Wake Of Poseidon,” “Islands,” ‘Starless And Bible Black” and “Lizard.”

Unfortunately, “Lizard” had been the only early King Crimson recording which I have never appreciated.


Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 06/9/2018 @ 22:01pm


Although I really like quite a few of ELP’s albums, I think that the Rock Hall Nominating Committee might be somewhat unlikely to nominate them. In my honest opinion, King Crimson is definitely a much more likely nominee, however they may not have the cachet that either Jethro Tull, or Duran Duran possess. So, in accordance with those thought patterns in mind, I believe that Duran Duran and Jethro Tull will be the next most likely “prog” inductees.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 08/20/2018 @ 02:05am


Although I really like quite a few of ELP’s albums, I think that the Rock Hall Nominating Committee might be somewhat unlikely to nominate them. In my honest opinion, King Crimson is definitely a much more likely nominee, however they may not have the cachet that either Jethro Tull, or Duran Duran possess. So, in accordance with those thought patterns in mind, I believe that Duran Duran and Jethro Tull will be the next most likely “prog” inductees.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/22/2018 @ 14:28pm


So far, we have two past members from the Crims who are in the Hall with two different bands: Bill Bruford (Yes) and the late John Wetton (Roxy Music).

In order for KC to get in, not only we need Jethro Tull, Duran Duran, ELP, and Procol Harum. But we also need a couple of bands who had members from them. Foreigner (Ian McDonald) and Bad Company (the late Boz Burrell).

Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 12/19/2018 @ 14:17pm


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/19/2018 @ 22:51pm


Do you think they will actually induct John Wetton with King Crimson?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/19/2018 @ 22:54pm


https://ultimateclassicrock.com/king-crimson-breakup-robert-fripp/

ROBERT FRIPP EXPLAINS WHY KING CRIMSON KEEP BREAKING UP

Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 04/9/2019 @ 11:19am


Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2020 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let’s discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2021 (at the earliest), or 2027 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American “prog” band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2021.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 04/19/2019 @ 12:11pm


I'd say the most likely list of inducted members is

1. Fripp
2. Lake
3. Giles
4. McDonald
5. Collins
6. Wetton
7. Bruford
8. Cross
9. Belew
10. Levin

I'd love for Sinfield to get in too, but I feel the hall would be hesitant to let him in since he was mostly a lyricist with rare synth parts.

Posted by FHD on Thursday, 05/2/2019 @ 21:25pm


More than 4000 votes, 76 percent said yes, and the Crims will get in after Jethro Tull, ELP and Procol Harum.

Posted by The Dude on Monday, 07/1/2019 @ 10:57am




https://chartmasters.org/spotify-streaming-numbers-tool/?artist_name=king+crimson&artist_id=&qAlbum=1&qSingle=1&qCompilation=1

Spotify Streaming Numbers: King Crimson

Streams: 33,113,424
Copies Sold: 33,060

Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 09/7/2019 @ 14:03pm


Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the release of "In The Court Of The Crimson King (An Observation By King Crimson)," the debut album by King Crimson. Unfortunately, Troy Smith has once again maligned The Moody Blues by saying that King Crimson should have been inducted instead and by calling their music boring. One should never criticize any member of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Troy seems to conveniently forget that without The Moody Blues, there would not be Rush, nor Yes, nor Genesis, nor King Crimson. The Moody Blues had created the first "prog" album almost two years prior to King Crimson's debut and the environment which had allowed for experimentation; for some reason, the critics tend to forget this. Critical revisionism, indeed!

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/11/2019 @ 11:07am


Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the release of "In The Court Of The Crimson King (An Observation By King Crimson)," the debut album by King Crimson. Unfortunately, Troy Smith has once again maligned The Moody Blues by saying that King Crimson should have been inducted instead and by calling their music boring. One should never criticize any member of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Troy seems to conveniently forget that without The Moody Blues, there would not have been a Rush, nor Yes, nor Genesis, nor King Crimson, nor a "you fill in the blank."

The Moody Blues had created the first "prog" album almost two years prior to King Crimson's debut and the correct conditions which had fostered an environment for artistic experimentation; for some reason, the critics tend to forget this. Critical revisionism, indeed!

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/11/2019 @ 11:22am


Hello Enigmaticus, Ben and other Moody Blues fans,
I have not been here in some time but check in once in a while to read comments. Once The Moody Blues finally were inducted I stepped back. Now I thought it was time to write. I am the perhaps the top diehard Moodies fan here and have been a fan of the band for over 45 years. Enig is correct about the influence the Moodies had on music in general but on the actual start of Prog Rock. King Crimson no doubt deserves to be nominated for sure for 2020 but in my humble opinion so does Jethro Tull. Ian and company had a major influence as well. Both Tull and the MB performed at the "Isle of Wight" concert in 1970. It was the UK's version of Woodstock. For those here that do not know Rock Music history take a few minutes and search. The MB actually were one of the very first bands to release a CONCEPT album with "Days of Future Passed" in 1967. It represents A day in the Life of a person. A few years later Tull in 1972 released "Thick as a brick". Ian is a fan of Monty Python. The album is almost a 45 minute single track about a school boy. The MB were using the mellotron in 1967. Mike Pinder taught John Lennon about this amazing instrument. John then used it on "Strawberry Fields" Many do not know that the MB actually toured with The Beatles in the early days. It was the MB that influenced the song "She came in through the bathroom window". Yes it was about a groupie. The members of the MB saw what happened with fans(girls) with John, Paul, Ringo and George(my fav) and decided not to put their pictures on MB albums for many years! They used the artwork of Phil Travers.The MB were one of the first bands to experiment with early quad stereo and an electric drum kit. Ian is well known for adding the flute, costumes and other unusual instruments into their music. So yes The Moodies deserved to be inducted! So many groups including Heart and ELO have stated that the MB inspired them. It is sad that bands that were important in Prog Rock development been snubbed. I truly hope the RRHOF will finally catch up and recognize how important Prog Rock bands have been to the influence of Rock Music. We shall find out soon if the change in the RRHOF CEO will make a difference.

Posted by Sue on Saturday, 10/12/2019 @ 00:20am


Any signs of a King Crimson nomination for 2020?

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10/14/2019 @ 03:57am


Hello Sue and The Dude,

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2021 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2022 (at the earliest), or 2028 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2022.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/23/2019 @ 09:30am


Looking at the nominees, it seems like the nom com wants to take a break with 70's Prog for a while, so they could get smaller rock bands in like T.Rex, Thin Lizzy and Blue Oyster Cult a few years from now. The next chairman of the Rock Hall Foundation wants a second ceremony annually for the 50's and 60's, so there is hope for Procol Harum.

Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/23/2019 @ 13:00pm


I don't think King Crimson, my all time favorite band, will be inducted in my lifetime. Based upon what the Hall of Fame considers to be "rock and roll" I cannot see how they could fit in. Certainly some rockstars have been influenced by Frank Sinatra, the Weavers (well at least they inducted Pete Seeger, and during his lifetime!!), the Mills Brothers, or Patsy Cline but they are beyond the scope of what rock and roll is commonly understood to be. It may be selfish of me, but I don't really want to see them inducted. I think it would diminish them somewhat in my eyes. For me King Crimson has always been exceptional and has transcended all categories and definitions. Most of the really great bands played 50 to 75% covers on their earliest albums. The Beatles and Stones were no exception. King Crimson never recorded covers in the studio, unless you consider "The Devil's Triangle" to be a cover of Holst's "Mars". They did Donovan's "Get Thy Bearings" and snippets of early 20th century pop tunes live, but I think mainly as a joke. I would say they were closer to Mingus or Coltrane than any other rock group. One spokesperson for the Hall of Fame has said that prog is too far removed from African American music which seems to suggest that black people can't play classical music, which is utter nonsense of course.

Posted by Upson Downes on Tuesday, 03/10/2020 @ 03:12am


NOTE to 2018 posting Wetton was NOT inducted with Roxy Music. I know, it's too good to be true. If KC do get inducted, I hope David Cross gets in. His Indian/hillbilly playing was indispensable on such tunes as "Exiles".

Posted by Upson Downes on Tuesday, 03/10/2020 @ 03:33am


Upson,

I do think that King Crimson will be inducted within the next few years. The missing pieces for King Crimson's induction are certainly coming together. Critics happen to prefer King Crimson over most other prog bands. Even though many rock music critics and prog aficionados are familiar with the works of King Crimson, most of the public are not. But then again, Roxy Music had been inducted and T. Rex will be inducted this year. But, Jethro Tull and Duran Duran have been much more popular and successful in the U.S. and the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) have previously been inducted, so I think that a nomination for King Crimson after their inductions is highly likely.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 03/10/2020 @ 10:15am


Hi Enigmaticus,

You may be right. Other bands were inducted only when it became impossible to deny them, even though it's no secret that the selection is not strictly based on objective criteria. If all the things you mentioned happen, they will simply run out of excuses not to do it. I guess would be happy for them, in a way. But I just can't imagine Fripp going along with the idea. I think he would refuse a knighthood if one were offered to him.

Posted by Upson Downes on Wednesday, 03/11/2020 @ 06:03am


RIP Bill Rieflin

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 05:43am


You know, I was just thinking the other day that King Crimson needs better representation in the Important Songs category. The fact that King Crimson isn't in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is rather sad...and I say that as a longtime King Crimson fan.

R.I.P. Bill Rieflin & Keith Tippett.

Posted by John Mangee on Monday, 06/15/2020 @ 14:18pm


@ John Mangee

I wouldn't be surprised if they do get nominated for next year's class. The votes are actually there for them.

Posted by The Dude on Monday, 06/15/2020 @ 15:11pm


John Mangee and The Dude,

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

"In The Court Of The Crimson King" *****
"In The Wake Of Poseidon" ****
"Lizard" ** 1/2
"Islands" *** 1/2
"Lark's Tongues In Aspic" *****
"Starless And Bible Black" ****
"Red" *****

"A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" *****

"Discipline" *****
"Beat" *****
"Three Of A Perfect Pair" **** 1/2

"The Compact King Crimson" *****

"The Concise King Crimson" *****

"Vroom" **** 1/2
"B'Boom: Live In Argentina" *****
"Thrak" *****
"Thrakattak" *****

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2021 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 06/16/2020 @ 16:28pm


Enigmaticus, you're absolutely right when it comes to what you said about Rush and King Crimson being great progressive rock bands. But here's my opinion about King Crimson:

I think King Crimson could actually be more likely to receive induction in either 2021 or 2022. Personally, I think King Crimson is much more respected by the critics than Kansas or Styx. I will say this, however. King Crimson should've already been in the Rock Hall a long time ago.

P.S. Don't forget about these other King Crimson albums:

The Construkction of Light (2000)
The Power to Believe (2003)

Also, check out...

Jakszyk, Fripp and Collins - A Scarcity of Miracles (2011)

Posted by John Mangee on Tuesday, 06/16/2020 @ 18:38pm


Enig,
I agree.. Great ratings you have for King Crimson. They have so much top shelf material that it does take quite a bit of time to absorb it all. It is like studying Physics of Music.. But I would like to get your review of The ConstruKction of Light, which John mentioned. I've heard a little of it, but not all, and it is supposedly very critically acclaimed. Fripp goes off again.. I am going to try to check more of it out also. Thanks.

Posted by Will N. on Tuesday, 06/16/2020 @ 22:15pm


John Mangee and Will N.,

Unfortunately, I have never heard "The Construkction of Light," nor "The Power To Believe."

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 06/17/2020 @ 17:04pm


Enig, dude, you don't know what you're missing.

Posted by John Mangee on Wednesday, 06/17/2020 @ 17:45pm


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyixwqiCag

Since Enig never heard the last two albums by the Crims, this video sums it up as my reaction.

Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 06/17/2020 @ 19:11pm


Dude.. Classic!.. lol.
Enig, here is a sample choice morsel.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtv-aouODE

Hopefully that works..

Posted by Will N. on Wednesday, 06/17/2020 @ 21:42pm


Thank you for sharing the link; "The Construkction of Light" was exquisite.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 06/19/2020 @ 00:11am


Will N.,

Thank you for providing the link. "The Construkction of Light" was exquisite.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 06/19/2020 @ 08:18am


I still think that King Crimson will follow Jethro Tull, Duran Duran, Procol Harum and Supertramp into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame.

By the way, King Crimson had only one entry on the 20 greatest prog albums list on Sirius X-M's Deep Tracks, whereas the other two members of the "unholy trinity" of prog had two entries apiece.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/5/2020 @ 05:55am


Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09/7/2020 @ 12:53pm


There forgetting about the band Asia too there great too

Posted by Brandon Bergfelt on Tuesday, 09/8/2020 @ 01:19am


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09/9/2020 @ 22:24pm


I get it, that king crim doesn't appeal to some.Not everything they do is good. But there are some works that are absolutely amazing. Put on "Frame by Frame" from the CD entitled DISCIPLINE !! Then tell me what you think !!

Posted by ENZO SMITH on Wednesday, 10/7/2020 @ 20:08pm


You know, Enzo, it just so happens that I've been a loyal King Crimson fan for the longest time. To me, King Crimson have always been one of the most creative, aggressive, innovative AND original rock bands of all time. I think King Crimson should've been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame a long time ago.

Posted by John Mangee on Wednesday, 10/7/2020 @ 20:28pm


Rock and Roll was a black based pop culture born out of blues and pop jazz music in the 1950s. When this met The Beatles all of that changed. DooWap was replaced with everything from choral singers to discordant "Northern Song" harmonies. Out of this massive transformation came Revolver and Srgt Peppers and The Moody Blues and Yes and King Crimson, all of them changing the rules so that rules no longer applied. Rock and Roll = No Rules. After the British invasion, Rock and Roll was no longer an American thing. It became a great cultural union. All musics, all genres are welcomed here because that's the one thing that makes rock and roll unlike all other music forms. It embraces all creations and transforms them into this new "rock" butterfly. If jazz fusion is jazz adopting rock I'd say listen to Mahavishnu Orchestra again. I wonder what Jimi would have thought of them? In this regard, I find it deplorable that King Crimson has not been inducted because no band reflects the continual growth and creation and bending of the rules the way Fripp and Company have done over the many, many year. I get it. Fripp is not "Mr. Personality" and the music isn't always "git up and swing your booty" ( Elephant Talk and Sleepless sure as H are). However the inspiration that comes out of the stewing pot known as King Crimson has inspired a lot, a lot of musicians and directions. Punksters and Metal Heads refer to "Red" The "progressive" crowd just love their courtly "schizoid man." And for those who missed the later disciplined train, you may have missed out on the wildest and most inventive rides: dance music (discipline), electro (Three of a Perfect pair), and even a taste Buddy Holly in 5/4 (Beat). Simple but sublimely intelligent " Happy to be happy with what you have to be happy with" pretty much nails why King Crimson hasn't been inducted, I suspect. Give it a listen - Punk? Metal? Electro? Verses and a chorus. Yes you have to have a chorus. This rock and roll after all. This year you are inducting Trent R and NiN. I wonder if such a thing could have existed without the influence of King Crimson on rock?

Posted by DazzBeez on Monday, 11/2/2020 @ 09:28am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo and The Dude,

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

"In The Court Of The Crimson King" *****
"In The Wake Of Poseidon" ****
"Lizard" ** 1/2
"Islands" *** 1/2
"Lark's Tongues In Aspic" *****
"Starless And Bible Black" ****
"Red" *****

"A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" *****

"Discipline" *****
"Beat" *****
"Three Of A Perfect Pair" *****

"The Compact King Crimson" *****

"The Concise King Crimson" *****

"Vroom" **** 1/2
"B'Boom: Live In Argentina" *****
"Thrak" *****
"Thrakattak" *****

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2021 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/3/2020 @ 08:56am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick and The Dude,

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

"In The Court Of The Crimson King" *****
"In The Wake Of Poseidon" ****
"Lizard" ** 1/2
"Islands" *** 1/2
"Lark's Tongues In Aspic" *****
"Starless And Bible Black" ****
"Red" *****

"A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" *****

"Discipline" *****
"Beat" *****
"Three Of A Perfect Pair" *****

"The Compact King Crimson" *****

"The Concise King Crimson" *****

"Vroom" **** 1/2
"B'Boom: Live In Argentina" *****
"Thrak" *****
"Thrakattak" *****

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2021 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/29/2020 @ 12:34pm


Enig, I appreciate your effort on your King Crimson post. However, I'd like to add a couple of albums for you to please check out:

1: King Crimson - The Contstrukction of Light (2000)
2: King Crimson - The Power to Believe (2003)
3: Jakszyk, Fripp and Collins - A Scarcity of Miracles (2011)

Let me know what you think, Enig.

Posted by John Mangee on Tuesday, 12/29/2020 @ 13:17pm


Alabama has 40 #1 Songs in their legendary career. I wonder how many #1 songs King Crimson has in their career. I think ELP will be inducted before King Crimson. Greg Lake is 1 of my FAV musicians. Here's who I would nominate and induct before King Crimson.
1. Iron Maiden
2. Procol Harum
3. Alabama
4. Alice In Chains
5. Diana Ross
6. Tina Turner
7. Foreigner
8. Scorpions
9. Soundgarden
10. Megadeth
11. Duran Duran
12. Willie Nelson
13. Judas Priest
14. The Sonics
15. The Offspring
16. Blue Oyster Cult
17. INXS
18. Smashing Pumpkins
19. LL Cool J
20. Motorhead
Several others also as I don't think the Committee is interested in King Crimson at this present time. KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 12/29/2020 @ 17:46pm


Ben,

Thank you for making the corrections. Now, as far as King Crimson is concerned, I think that their first nomination is still a few years away. If you are starting your own King Crimson collection, then I would highly recommend purchasing the following studio recordings (remastered by Steven Wilson): "In The Court of The Crimson King (An Observation by King Crimson)," "Red," "Discipline," "Beat," and "Three Of A Different Pair." If you would prefer to purchase great compilations instead, then I would highly recommend purchasing "The Compact King Crimson" and "The Young Person's Guide To King Crimson." Those recordings are the two recordings which had opened up the world of King Crimson to me nearly 35 years ago. There are also quite a huge number of live King Crimson recordings to choose from.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/30/2020 @ 11:20am


Ben,

Speaking of which, I had ordered a copy of "The Young Person's Guide To King Crimson" on cd this morning.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/31/2020 @ 11:43am


STUDIO ALBUMS

King Crimson

01. 1969 - In the Court of the Crimson King
02. 1970 - In the Wake of Poseidon
03. 1970 - Lizard
04. 1971 - Islands
05. 1973 - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
06. 1974 - Starless and Bible Black
07. 1974 - Red
08. 1981 - Discipline
09. 1982 - Beat
10. 1984 - Three of a Perfect Pair
11. 1995 - THRAK
12. 2000 - The Construkction of Light
13. 2003 - The Power to Believe

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/24/2021 @ 13:59pm


King Crimson was there @ the beginning of prog. Yeah moodies 67...yeah...yeah.
Look if you wanna get technical you can say Vanilla Fudge invented it or The Beatles but
KC were all seriously talented players. David Cross may have been a bit weak in 72-73 but think about the personnel: ROBERT FRIPP, GREG LAKE, JOHN WETTON, BILL BRUFORD, MICHAEL GILES, etc....etc.... Bruford left Yes when they were on top of a world gold mine just for the experience. THAT alone should tell you something. Listen to the studio version of "Fracture" and then talk about talented cats on their respective instruments.

Posted by Enzo on Sunday, 05/9/2021 @ 18:01pm


There's no doubt that King Crimson is one of progressive rock's greatest bands. I'm so proud to have been a fan of this great group for the longest time. Robert Fripp is such an innovative guitarist. I love the stuff he's played over the years.

Believe me, you cannot write about the history of rock n' roll without including King Crimson.

Posted by Johnny on Sunday, 05/9/2021 @ 18:16pm


(Totally real) Rock Halk 2022 inductees leak: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pMow8IZ2NB0

Posted by ThatRandomRaichu on Tuesday, 06/15/2021 @ 07:42am


It is shameful that this band is not in the HOF. Gross and sick. We got Rush, Kiss in. But not King Crimson or Alice in Chains. So irritating that they along with Alice in Chains are not is sick. Sick I say.

Posted by Johnny Macalvee on Thursday, 08/26/2021 @ 23:42pm


Of course, I would have been remiss if I had not mentioned that "Discipline" had celebrated it's 40th anniversary on September 22, 2021. Many apologies to my fellow Crimsonans. I had been very busy at that time.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/27/2021 @ 10:30am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee and Johnny,

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is 4th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)

Discipline (1981) (*****)
Best (1982) (*****)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2022 are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2024 (at the earliest), or 2030 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by two more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2024.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/27/2021 @ 11:11am


this band fell off; giles, giles and fripp better

Posted by on Saturday, 11/27/2021 @ 18:28pm


King Crimson is an incredible progressive rock band. They are just as good if not better than Yes which is in.

Posted by Carl Hardy on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 11:15am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee, Carl Hardy and Johnny,

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is now 5th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)

Discipline (1981) (*****)
Best (1982) (*****)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2022 and 2023 respectively, are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2024 (at the earliest), or 2030 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by 3 more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2024.

Carl Hardy,

I would never say that King Crimson is better than Yes, since King Crimson and Yes are very different in their approach and overall style. King Crimson is definitely a much darker and moodier band, their riffs are very angular and somewhat heavier, rather than lighter and smoother. I believe that there was a time when Robert Fripp had considered King Crimson to be more of a "heavy metal" band. Jerry Ewing of PROG Magazine had even designated '21st Century Schizoid Man' to be proto- thrash metal In the "Prog Metal" episode of Metal Evolution.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 01:56am


KC is simply the best band touring today!!
this is not about the past.

Posted by dsr on Thursday, 02/3/2022 @ 17:19pm


Rest in Peace Ian McDonald, multi-instrumentalist (mostly saxophone), 1946-2022. He also played on Foreigner's first album, and with T Rex (though not in their Hall of Fame lineup).

Posted by Joe S. on Thursday, 02/10/2022 @ 22:35pm


RIP Ian McDonald

Posted by Roy on Friday, 02/11/2022 @ 03:28am


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 02/11/2022 @ 03:36am


My most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Ian McDonald on his recent unexpected passing. Ian McDonald had been both a founding member of King Crimson and Foreigner. As a multi-instrumentalist (saxophonist, flutist , keyboardist and guitarist) Ian MacDonald had been extremely important and hugely indispensable to the sound of both seminal bands. I am certain that he will be missed. With the passing of Ian McDonald, only Robert Fripp and Michael Giles remain as the still living original founding members of King Crimson. Rest In Peace, Ian.



Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 02/11/2022 @ 03:51am


My most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Ian McDonald on his recent unexpected passing. Ian McDonald had been both a founding member of King Crimson and Foreigner. As a multi-instrumentalist (saxophonist, flutist, keyboardist and guitarist) Ian MacDonald had been extremely important and hugely indispensable to the sound of both seminal bands. I am certain that he will be missed. With the passing of Ian McDonald, only Robert Fripp and Michael Giles remain as the still living original founding members of King Crimson. Rest In Peace, Ian.

With the unfortunate previous passings of Greg Lake (2016), John Wetton (2017) and now Ian McDonald (2022), King Crimson may end up receiving a nomination for a Rock Hall induction in 2023.


Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 02/11/2022 @ 03:59am


Ian McDonald, King Crimson and Foreigner Co-Founder, Dead at 75
Multi-instrumentalist helped craft the progressive-rock cornerstone In the Court of the Crimson King and played on Foreigner's massively successful early LPs
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ian-mcdonald-king-crimson-dead-obit-1298588/

Ian McDonald, Founding Member of King Crimson and Foreigner, Dies at 75
McDonald's family revealed that the multi-instrumentalist, 75, passed away on Wednesday (Feb. 9) surrounded by family at home in New York -- from cancer, according to his son.
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/ian-mcdonald-obituary-1235030057/

Posted by Roy on Friday, 02/11/2022 @ 07:38am


King Crimson needs 100 more votes to hit 5000 on FRL.

If Devo, Duran Duran, and Eminem are inducted in 2022, King Crimson will enter the Top 10 in voting on Future Rock Legends, joining Jethro Tull.

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02/21/2022 @ 06:27am


The Smiths and King Crimson will be entering the Top 10 in voting on Future Rock Legends when Devo, Duran Duran, and Eminem are inducted.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/23/2022 @ 07:48am


On Easter Sunday afternoon while driving northward on I-19 to North Tucson, I had listened to "Avalon" (1982) by Roxy Music. On the way southward down Campbell Avenue after visiting Williams-Sonoma, AJ's and Ra in La Encatada Shopping Center, I had exchanged "Avalon" (1982), in favor of "The Compact King Crimson" (1986).

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 15:41pm


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee, Carl Hardy, Paul in KY, far, Joe S. and Johnny, amongst others:

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is now 6th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since there is a new documentary out on King Crimson with the title of "In The Court of The Crimson King: King Crimson at 50," by Toby Abies and since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)

Discipline (1981) (*****)
Best (1982) (*****)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2022 and 2023 respectively, are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica and the upcoming induction of Duran Duran. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by 3 more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Carl Hardy,

I would never say that King Crimson is better than Yes, since King Crimson and Yes are very different in their approach and overall style. King Crimson is definitely a much darker and moodier band, their riffs are very angular and somewhat heavier, rather than lighter and smoother. I believe that there was a time when Robert Fripp had considered King Crimson to be more of a "heavy metal" band. Jerry Ewing of PROG Magazine had even designated '21st Century Schizoid Man' to be proto- thrash metal In the "Prog Metal" episode of Metal Evolution.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 04/22/2022 @ 06:26am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee, Carl Hardy, Paul in KY, far, Joe S. and Johnny, amongst others:

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is now 6th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since there is a new documentary out on King Crimson with the title of "In The Court of The Crimson King: King Crimson at 50," by Toby Amies and since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)

Discipline (1981) (*****)
Best (1982) (*****)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2022 and 2023 respectively, are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica and the upcoming induction of Duran Duran. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have all been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by 3 more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Carl Hardy,

I would never say that King Crimson is better than Yes, since King Crimson and Yes are very different in their approach and overall style. King Crimson is definitely a much darker and moodier band, their riffs are very angular and somewhat heavier, rather than lighter and smoother. I believe that there was a time when Robert Fripp had considered King Crimson to be more of a "heavy metal" band. Jerry Ewing of PROG Magazine had even designated '21st Century Schizoid Man' to be proto- thrash metal In the "Prog Metal" episode of Metal Evolution.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 04/22/2022 @ 06:35am


John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee, Carl Hardy, Paul in KY, far, Joe S. and Johnny, amongst others:

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is now 6th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since there is a new documentary out on King Crimson with the title of "In The Court of The Crimson King: King Crimson at 50," by Toby Amies and since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****) (01)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****) (06)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****) (03)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)- This is my second favorite King Crimson compilation, overall.

Discipline (1981) (*****) (02)
Best (1982) (*****) (04)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****) (05)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)- This is my favorite King Crimson compilation and it has made me a huge aficionado of their work, for more than 35 consecutive years.


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****) (07)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****) (08)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran and Jethro Tull, and possibly Procol Harum in 2022 and 2023 respectively, are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads and Metallica and the upcoming induction of Duran Duran. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Probably not, so let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran, Jethro Tull and Procol Harum have all been inducted, I think that King Crimson may be more likely to receive their first nomination. If Supertramp follows Duran Duran and Jethro Tull into the Rock Hall, King Crimson could be inducted immediately afterwards. In this case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2029 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by 3 more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Carl Hardy,

I would never say that King Crimson is better than Yes, since King Crimson and Yes are very different in their approach and overall style. King Crimson is definitely a much darker and moodier band, their riffs are very angular and somewhat heavier, rather than lighter and smoother. I believe that there was a time when Robert Fripp had considered King Crimson to be more of a "heavy metal" band. Jerry Ewing of PROG Magazine had even designated '21st Century Schizoid Man' to be proto- thrash metal In the "Prog Metal" episode of Metal Evolution.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 04/29/2022 @ 04:47am


Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 05:21am


With Duran Duran's upcoming induction and the release of the new documentary, "In The Court of The Crimson King: King Crimson at 50" by Toby Amies (which had appeared at SXSW earlier this year) on almost every prog aficionado's mind, I think that it is once again time to discuss the overall importance of King Crimson.

John Mangee, Will N., DazzBeez, Enzo, Ben, Nick, John Macalvee, Carl Hardy, Paul in KY, far, Joe S. and Johnny, amongst others:

Thank you for your continued support of King Crimson. King Crimson is now 6th on my list of favorite prog bands.

Since there is a new documentary out on King Crimson with the title of "In The Court of The Crimson King: King Crimson at 50," by Toby Amies and since King Crimson had been recently recognized by Ultimate Classic Rock for being among their list of major Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame snubs, I thought that it might be important to discuss their overall importance.

"LONG LIVE PROG," indeed!

Rush and King Crimson are both great "progressive rock" bands. As to those previous detractors who do not classify Rush as progressive, well I have heard them arguing that point for decades. Unfortunately, they do not seem to be aware that they have lost that argument.

Rush is not, was not and has never been a "heavy metal" band. They may have inspired a slew of hard rock musicians, but their tentative connection to that genre is tenuous at best.

As far as King Crimson is concerned, they have been a very innovative progressive rock band, since their debut. Other than "Lizard," which I have never really liked, most of King Crimson's vast catalogue is worth listening to. Robert Fripp has been constantly innovative in pushing that musical form to it's limit. I would rate their recordings, which I am familiar with, thusly:

In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969) (*****) (01)
In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) (****)
Lizard (1970) (** 1/2)
Islands (1971) (*** 1/2)
Lark's Tongues In Aspic (1973) (*****) (06)
Starless And Bible Black (1974) (****)
Red (1974) (*****) (03)

A Young Person's Guide To King Crimson (1976) (*****)- This is my second favorite King Crimson compilation, overall.

Discipline (1981) (*****) (02)
Best (1982) (*****) (04)
Three of a Perfect Pair (1984) (*****) (05)

The Compact King Crimson (1986) (*****)- This is my favorite King Crimson compilation and it has made me a huge aficionado of their work, for more than 35 consecutive years.


Sleepless: The Concise King Crimson" (1993) (*****)

Vroom (1994) (**** 1/2)
B'Boom: Live In Argentina (1995) (*****)
Thrak (1995) (*****) (07)
Thrakattak (1996) (*****) (08)

In my honest opinion, any of their compilations, are definitely worth checking out first. When I had lived in the Bay area, back in the late 1980's, I had listened to a lot of King Crimson.

At this time, I think that nominations and inductions for Duran Duran (2022) and Jethro Tull (2023), and possibly Procol Harum in (2023) are much more likely.

What helps King Crimson immensely are the recent inductions of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues), in addition to the inductions of: Roxy Music, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads, Metallica and the upcoming induction of Duran Duran. But, are those votes enough to provide King Crimson with either a nomination, or induction? Maybe. Now, let's discuss a more likely scenario: after Duran Duran has been inducted, King Crimson may receive their first nomination. In any case, I do not really foresee an induction for King Crimson, prior to 2023 (at the earliest), or 2030 (at the latest). It is also possible that the Rock Hall will switch gears and nominate an American "prog" band (Kansas, or Styx) instead. Unfortunately, this could delay a King Crimson induction by 3 more years. Ideally, King Crimson will be inducted into the Rock Hall in 2023.

Carl Hardy,

I would never say that King Crimson is better than Yes, since King Crimson and Yes are very different in their approach and overall style. King Crimson is definitely a much darker and moodier band, their riffs are very angular and somewhat heavier, rather than lighter and smoother. I believe that there was a time when Robert Fripp had considered King Crimson to be more of a "heavy metal" band. Jerry Ewing of PROG Magazine had even designated '21st Century Schizoid Man' to be proto- thrash metal In the "Prog Metal" episode of Metal Evolution.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 05/15/2022 @ 11:17am


King Crimson hits 5000 votes!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/17/2022 @ 16:28pm


King Crimson checks off all the boxes in the old RRHOF mission statement! If you read the statement NOBODY can compare! Evolution is mentioned? Practically every new album! Influance? Hold their beer! There's possibly 100 KNOWN bands that they influanced. Accomplished Musicians? I would argue they're a Supergroup as many other groups are made of past and present members, and some come back! They have never been about hit records. That's what's holding them back.

Posted by Pat McConnell on Monday, 06/6/2022 @ 16:43pm


There seems to be some question about whether the Moody Blues are "prog". I think the way Mike Pinder plays the mellotron, by itself puts them squarely in that category. But I can understand why others don't think so. Their music is very "kid friendly", almost like children's music. Not frightening like "Schizoid Man" or "The Devil's Triangle". I grew up on Oahu and I was probably one of about 25 King Crimson fans there, all haole or Japanese-American stoners. We'd unavoidably run into each other a few times a year, such as at a hole-in-the wall theatre when they were playing "Yessongs" or "Pictures at an Exhibition". In contrast the Moody Blues were enormously popular in Hawaii because their music was very similar to some Hawaiian music that had been symphonically arranged. Also popular among young listeners were Roger Whittaker, John Rowles, and Matt Monro. Hawaii has always been a sort of outlier when it comes to pop music. Alex Keenan had a hit there in 1970 but NO hits in the UK nor anywhere else!!

Posted by Upson Downes on Sunday, 10/16/2022 @ 06:56am


I will be watching the livestream presentation of the King Crimson Documentary "In The Court of the King Crimson: King Crimson at 50" by Toby Abies later today.

Well. What do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/22/2022 @ 04:20am


I have been watching the livestream presentation of the King Crimson Documentary "In The Court of the King Crimson: King Crimson at 50" by Toby Amies today. By the way, I have also pre-ordered 3 copies on BluRay from Discipline Global Mobile Live.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/22/2022 @ 20:51pm


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has lost total credibility by pretty much skipping tye progressive period of the 1970s, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer should all be inducted.
King Crimson has influenced bands from Nirvana and others.

Posted by Alejandro Anderson on Monday, 11/7/2022 @ 08:37am


Just think: if KC and ELP get in, Greg Lake gets in twice! ;)

Posted by Jill Robinson on Tuesday, 11/8/2022 @ 23:07pm


Jill:

Like Wetton getting inducted with Roxy (he wasn't!), it seems too good to be true. Bill Bruford remains the only inductee.

Posted by Upson Downes on Thursday, 11/17/2022 @ 07:19am


I have a feeling King Crimson and Kool & The Gang will be on the same ballot!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/26/2022 @ 15:04pm


Virtual Interview with Bill Bruford of Yes and King Crimson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZ7RMI6PyM

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/30/2022 @ 16:00pm


You can't tell the story of rock n roll without mentioning King Crimson, it's impossible. They kickstarted Prog with in the court and kept evolving to remain progressive with the times, only Frippy remaining through every line up. Artists from Zeppelin to Blondie, Nirvana to Bad Company, Talking Heads to Bowie, and ofc his frequent collaborators, Daryll Hall Brian Eno and Peter Gabriel. King Crimson are essential to rock history, and made excellent music along the way

Posted by Will M on Tuesday, 01/10/2023 @ 22:01pm


Should be in based on innovation and influence but probably lack the commercial success. Fripp was one of the greatest guitarists of all time and worked with Bowie, Talking Heads, and others as well in addition to the incredible work of this band from the 60s-80s

Posted by Rich on Sunday, 01/15/2023 @ 23:43pm


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02/1/2023 @ 02:25am


Enigmaticus,

I think you are possibly alright. You last entered something on here. Some of us noticed you disappered. You are NOT on the main forum. King Crimson has been snubbed completely despite a 55 year career. They lack commercial succeess.
If you are around in anyway Respond here to King Crimson. Sadly King C may never be in the Performer category. I remember you write articles outside the site online. Maybe you are there
You are Busy
You are seriously injured
Or needed to abandon the Main forum

Let me know Let us know. Respond Respond

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 02/12/2023 @ 06:36am


King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Gordon Haskell (1970-1971: vocals, bass; Les Fleur de Lys)
07. Mel Collins (1970-1972: saxophone, flute, keyboards)
08. Andy McCulloch (1970-1971: drums)
09. Boz Burrell (1971-1972: vocals, bass; Bad Company)
10. Ian Wallace (1971-1972: drums)
11. John Wetton (1972-1974: vocals, bass; Family, Roxy Music, Asia)
12. David Cross (1972-1974: violin, viola, keyboards)
13. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
14. Jaime Muir (1972-1973: percussion)
15. Adrian Belew (1981-2009: vocals, guitar)
16. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
17. Trey Gunn (1994-2003: guitar)
18. Pat Mastelotto (1994-Present: drums; Mr. Mister)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03/12/2023 @ 06:15am


Never gonna happen. The Hall of Fame already inducted all of the most successful prog groups of the 60s and 70s and have called it a day after The Moody Blues. You all gotta accept that Prog is a small, irrelevant subgenre in rock and that King Crimson doesn't have the popularity or stability to be inducted. Yes they were influential but so were Yes and Genesis who more bands cite as an influence than King Crimson. Pink Floyd had 10 times the influence in popular music. Pink Floyd, Rush, Genesis, Yes, and The Moody Blues are the only prog groups that deserve to be in the HOF. King Crimson is irrelevant. Stop pretending In the Court of the Crimson King is one of the most important and influential albums of all time when it's not even one of the 500 greatest albums of all time according to Rolling Stone. They consistently lost out to Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, Rush, Tool, Jethro Tull, etc.

Posted by Jeff on Friday, 02/2/2024 @ 17:03pm


Foreigner has been nominated for 2024. If they are inducted, then Ian McDonald will surely be included as a founding member, as well as having been in the group during an enormously successful period. He would be only the second member/ex-member of King Crimson to be so "honored". King Crimson seems finally to be no more today. Old age has caught up to them and Fripp has said that the muse only speaks to him.

Posted by Upson Downes on Tuesday, 03/5/2024 @ 05:59am


Bill bruford and Robert fripp are the only two members before the 80s to last more than 2 years in this band.

That makes this band a bit hard to induct. I think the hall does not want 10+ prog bros in it because it will lead to more prog bros. With Jann gone tho their induction is more Likley, much like foreigner was finally nominated. If protocol harem can get a nomination why not king crimson who are far more influential?

Worst case scenario is that Robert fripp is inducted in a side category solo. Which would not do the legacy of this band, my favorite progressive rock band, justice,

There is no other prog band that released an album like "islands". When they wanted to write with deep emotion, something prog is often void of , they did.

Posted by Mikhail on Sunday, 03/17/2024 @ 16:48pm


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