Green Day

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible in: 2014 (The 2015 Induction Ceremony)


Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2015 (ranked #125) .


Essential Albums (?)WikipediaAmazon MP3Amazon CD
Dookie (1994)
Insomniac (1995)
American Idiot (2004)

Essential Songs (?)WikipediaAmazon MP3YouTube
Basket Case (1994)
When I Come Around (1994)
Longview (1994)
Brain Stew (1995)
Good Riddance (The Time Of Your Life) (1997)
American Idiot (2004)
Boulevard of Broken Dreams (2004)
Wake Me Up When September Ends (2004)

Green Day @ Wikipedia

Green Day Videos

Will Green Day be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

Comments

648 comments so far (post your own)

If Green Day gets inducted I will shoot-.....Green Day.

Posted by Ian on Sunday, 07.30.06 @ 00:36am


I agree. if they make it I better make it, and i'm just a hobby muscician

Posted by Chris on Sunday, 07.30.06 @ 15:10pm


YES YES YES YES YES YES without a doubt

even if you don't like Green Day, you have to admit that they are worthy of a spot in the hall of fame. They certainly contributed a lot to rock 'n roll and brought back punk, even if it wasn't in its original form (who said it had to be, it's better that they do their own thing). They capture the spirit of rock 'n roll, and have influenced countless music groups. They're original, talented, prolific, notorious, and an overall amazing band. They write fantastic songs and, although they're on MTV, you can't help but notice that they don't fit in with the slew of Fall Out Boys, All American Rejects, blink-182s, panic at the discos, etc. They're different. They're better. They could take on their idols if they wanted to. Anyone who thinks that Green Day isn't deserving of a spot in the hall of fame obviously knows nothing about music.

Posted by ... on Thursday, 08.31.06 @ 16:23pm


HELL YES, THEY DESERVE TO BE IN.

Posted by BRIAN on Monday, 09.25.06 @ 16:09pm


yes! yes! yes! duh, of course they have to get in. Their guitar chords might be pretty simple, but it's Green Day! They've got their own sound, the have a kick-ass drummer, and their music has matured and become so much better than before. Although, i have to admit, I miss how they used to be snot-nosed punks, but i still love their music now.

Posted by Corinne on Sunday, 10.8.06 @ 20:40pm


No they haven't contributed much to the music industry besides making all their albums sound the same.

Posted by Sean on Monday, 10.9.06 @ 19:09pm


Green Day does deserve to be in the RNRHOF in 2014. No brainer. Why? !) they revivved Punk (in a mainstream sort of way.)
2) Inspired other pop-punk bands, like Sum 41

3) If you play with U2 in front of a live audience, you better be in the HALL!

Sorry sorry. Last one was bit.. off topic. WE'll probably see whats off their next album, but they're in (Along with Nirvana)

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 10.10.06 @ 18:57pm


you obviously do not know anything by green day except their american idiot music by criticizing them. even if you do, you are just trying to be cool by insulting them because you are insecure. if you knew anything or had any taste, you would know that green day, indeed, has talent.

Posted by greendayrulz on Wednesday, 10.11.06 @ 18:25pm


The American Idiot album is Green Day's ticket to the Hall. Before that album, they were still a popular and respected band, but that album moved them up to the all-time greats. Green Day is not the most creative or talented band, but they have been making good solid rock music for 15 years now and show no signs of slowing down.

Posted by A-Killa on Friday, 10.20.06 @ 06:53am


NO! NO! NO! They turned punk into what it never wanted to be: commercial. They jumped on the Anti-bush bandwagon to revive their dead careers and now every 14 year old girl thinks Billie Joe is 22 years old (hes like 35).

Posted by Keegan on Saturday, 10.21.06 @ 14:09pm


No they haven't contributed much to the music industry besides making all their albums sound the same.

For you to say that tells me you've done nothing but occasionaly hear their singles on the radio.


NO! NO! NO! They turned punk into what it never wanted to be: commercial. They jumped on the Anti-bush bandwagon to revive their dead careers and now every 14 year old girl thinks Billie Joe is 22 years old (hes like 35).

Their careers were far from dead.

Posted by BRIAN on Thursday, 10.26.06 @ 00:16am


Hell yeah, Green Day rock, they really started the 1990's punk scene, if you don't like green day, you're an Bush loving American Idiot

Posted by Frodijr on Thursday, 11.23.06 @ 11:26am


See, that's what grown-ups call an "either-or" fallacy. I find Green Day boring, repetitive, and unskilled at songwriting, and I'm also a massively liberal person. In fact, as someone who takes politics seriously and sees it as the five-dimensional entity it is, for a bunch of idiots like Green Day and think that adopting a political pose is the best way to sell records that week, and what's more, to have people adopt their name-calling approach to politics as gospel is downright insulting.

So yeah, you say that again you get punched. Fair warning.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 11.24.06 @ 10:34am


Calling Billie Joe's songwriting capability, and the rest of the band's contributions to the music "unskilled" renders the previous post irrelevant because it is wrong from an objective standpoint. Do you own all 8 Green Day albums? No? Then you clearly haven't heard a representative sample of the music and aren't really able to comment, as much as you'd like to. Billie Joe is a great guitarist, Mike is a capable and creative bassist, and Tre is nothing short of manic. And nearly all the songs are great, unlike nearly every other band in the history of recorded music (with the exception of the Beatles) who turn in lackluster material to fill out albums, focusing the talent they have into a few songs for which they become known instead of making the entire purchase listenable. Of course they go in the hall '14.

Posted by Tim on Wednesday, 11.29.06 @ 22:14pm


Okay, so ripping off the Mr. T Experience now counts as good songwriting. Good to know, I guess.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 11.30.06 @ 09:39am


I don't think they will be inducted. I admire Green Day and they have consistently produced a high standard of work, but they haven't really been 'innovative' enough or had enough impact to be inducted, though American Idiot was a very ambitious move. The answer depends greatly on their next album.

By the way I own every album from Dookie onwards, so I have a good idea of what I'm talking about.

Posted by Paul on Thursday, 12.7.06 @ 03:25am


Dude, just because they are popular doesn't mean they are great musicians, Hell! They are terrible! They did nothing to punk but change the name of it from pop (they are just about the same today, excluding the fashions). If you guys knew what real punk rock was maybe you'd trash Greenday and Go with the Clash, Newyork Dolls, Television, the Jam, maybe even the Ramones, HELL! Blondie is atleast 5X more punk than Greenday (they are really a new wave punk band btw); Learn something about punk first before you try to adopt it. Just cause you wear studded belts, Shop at Hot topic, and wear chucks doesn't mean you are a little punk at heart. Punk music was about having fun and not playing music just for money(=Greenday) you gotta play cause you love music and don't give a shit how bad you are!

Posted by Kendall N. on Wednesday, 12.13.06 @ 22:12pm


kendall kendall kendall... perhaps you should learn how to spell... New York is two words dear, and the New York Dolls were great, but the Ramones were sheer pop. Anyway, before you criticize green day, learn a bit about their history. they didn't do it for the money and to be big stars, asshole, they did it as a way of life and so they could have a square meal. they built their reputation as a great band by tour and selling merch DIY style and toured in a ####ing BOOKMOBILE for years. People consider them to be sell outs, but look what Lookout! did to them: Green Day were the band single-handily keeping Lookout! from going bankrupt, and Lookout! decides not to pay the royalties. They basically screw green day. thats why green day left. so maybe learn a little history before you go bitching.

Posted by Who wants to know on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 14:09pm


Lookout! was also the only label willing to give them a chance when they were snot-nosed little kids ripping off the Mr. T Experience. They didn't pay the royalties because they couldn't pay the royalties. Green Day suing Lookout just to get money that they already had ten times over shows a remarkable lack of character and loyalty, and makes them actual sellouts as opposed to the standard use of the word which means "they evolved and I didn't."

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 14:49pm


I hate to sound cynical, but would you turn down the money Green Day received by signing to a major label? I mean, Anti-Flag only signed to a major label after 10 YEARS on the underground punk scene because they wanted to make sure their music was uncensored. Green Day just simply wasn't interested in politics at the release of Dookie (exemplified in their lyrics).

As for their actual music, they did drag punk into the mainstream by injecting a poppy, catchy tune into the music. This however, was what the punks wanted-A chance to be in the spotlight and say "#### Off"- Punk was just not willing to step up to the plate. Punk, however, has always had a poppy attitude (I mean, Raw Power was mixed by David Bowie at the time and the New York Dolls weren't exactly the heaviest sound either.)

In the end, Green Day did nothing new to scene other than revive it. All they wanted to do was play their music and not live in poverty doing it (like the Hardcore flagship band Black Flag).

P.S.: Punk Musicianship has never been all that complex (The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Die Hunns, and all the Protopunk and Hardcore Bands, for example).

Posted by X on Thursday, 01.4.07 @ 02:22am


hell yeah Green Day should be in, they have written so many great albums and songs, 99% of their songs are catchy and amazing, and they played with u2- how ownage is that?

Posted by kfeointgh on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 04:20am


"they played with u2- how ownage is that?"

Surprisingly, not very, particularly since U2 lost what little edge they had a long time ago.

Posted by William on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 22:31pm


All i have to say is stop voting for green day because they are not punk anymore, maybe before but no more. While your at it go vote for Dead Kennedys because they are what punk really is about!

Posted by Eric Augustine on Thursday, 01.11.07 @ 11:05am


Oh come on, you can't really argue with Green Day anymore. "American Idiot" is a pretty brilliant album. I know, we were all pretty suspicious of them when "Dookie" came out - they jumped at the major labels, they're pop punk, yeah - but those songs have stood up really well with time.

Sorry haters, but Green Day is an easy in.

Posted by Al on Wednesday, 01.24.07 @ 08:48am


Wow stupid question and even stupidier people who say no to it.Green day may have gone way mainstream but there music has always been orginal.Each song has something to say with a different rhythm to it.They have a song for almost every person.That really should count to true music(espeically rock)fans.They brought back punk in a new edgy 2000 way.Any person who apreciated music they can relate to,feel,and overall get into...should no doubt give green day a vote into the RARHOF.Its green day.Their timeless.No other band has been able to sell that mant records for that many years not even some of the greats.Thats punk...that IS ROCK AND ROLL.

Posted by Josh on Tuesday, 01.30.07 @ 19:08pm


I like Green Day alright, in the sense that if a song comes on the radio I probably won't change the station, but I don't know if I would call them Hall of Fame worthy. To me they just scream "solid rock band" which isn't ecessarily a bad thing, but a group needs to be more than just solid to be considered one of the all time greats.

Posted by Mike B. on Monday, 02.5.07 @ 07:48am


i think they should cuz i said so. they are good at singing and i like pretty much all of their songs.

Posted by tasha on Sunday, 02.25.07 @ 15:42pm


While the backlash continues with AI, most people aren't aware of their work in the 90s. Their album Dookie changed rock at that time. When it became successful, other punk-styled bands joined in like Offspring, Rancid, etc. A new form of rock came.

Even without AI, GD will make it into the hall of fame, but maybe not their first year though, unless they release another mega album.

Posted by maplejet on Tuesday, 02.27.07 @ 11:02am


Thank god the people posting aren't deciding. Greenday is a band, i'm pretty neutral on liking them, but i would NEVER say that they deserve a hall spot. The hall is for people who innovated and influenced music, these guys just play rock... nothing special enough to get them in.

Posted by WOW on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 16:02pm


green day is one of - if not THE, most influential bands out there right now. you can't tell me green day shouldn't be in the rock hall of fame. they should already be in there by now.

Posted by emily. on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 12:49pm


Green Day has indeed influenced the music industry, and deserve a spot. Someone of you say Green Day are sellouts for jumping on the anti-Bush band wagon. But AI was one of the first anti-Bush CDs to go on the shelves after 9-11. And why should'nt they turn to politics? At the release of Nimrod they were young, when the wrote AI they were older, and had views are more important things. Do you expect them to be 35 and singing about how they hate their parents and Billie's girlfriend left him for a loser? It is expected that they're lyrics changed and evolved after such a long hiatus.

Posted by PJ on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 14:31pm


Theres no doubt in my mind that Green day will withstand the test of time. All their music is Original and clever, even though the chords seem thrown together it works and people love it. (although, i do think its getting annoying seeing American Idiot merch sold at teeny-bopper stores)

Posted by Anna on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 17:33pm


Saying their political lyrics are "evolved" is laughable to anyone who has taken even a 9th-grade social studies class. Their political views are childishly simple to the point that singing about masturbation would probably be more mature.

Kit's already explained why they weren't "original" better than I could.

Posted by William on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 18:06pm


OF COURSE THEY WILL! THEY ARE ROCK GODS. EVERYONE IS JUST JEALOUS OF ALL THEIR SUCCESS, GO GREEN DAY!!!! YOU GUYS WILL MAKE IT NO DOUBT. YOU DESERVE IT, BEST AND IN THE WORLD BY FAR!

Posted by krisanne on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 08:18am


Green Day is the best ####ing band ever and they DEFINITELY deserve a spot. Over 80% of the people are agreeing with this right now, so I say, in the words of Charlie the Unicorn, Shun the non-believers, shun, shuuuuuuuun...

Posted by lauren on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 08:41am


Ok, If you think Green Day's albums all sound the same you're definatly not somebody who's listened to work from multiple albums. American Idiot is SOOOOOO different from anything that they had previously done it's not even funny. Besides, simalarities are what keep fans loyal, so having amazing riffs in every album helps.

Posted by Matt ~_~ on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 11:37am


Green Day deserves this alot. All 9 great different albums. An actual band with talent!! They are The best band ever!

Posted by Mariah on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 14:17pm


Green Day have sold 22 million albums according to the RIAA. that means that they have sold more albums than: Graand funk railroad, stevie ray vaughn, the temptations, yes, john lennon, ted nugent, paul mccartney, black sabbath, bad company, janis joplin, kansas, styx, the grateful dead, Neil young, sting, crosby stills nash and young, jackson browne, kiss, stevie wonder, r.e.m., red hot chili peppers, the who, heart, meatloaf, johnny cash, creedence clearwater revival, the beach boys, genesis, the ddobie brothers, bestie boys, reo speedwagon, and JIMI HENDRIX. they've sold more albums than these legendary artists, and while they aren't better than some and can't touch a few, they are still deserving. listen to dookie, along with Kurt cobain's death, green day put a dagger into the heart of grunge. Like it not, they revolutionized the late 90s and directly influenced Blink-182 and the more recent punk/emo music that is so prominent in American music today. yes they get in

Posted by Joey on Sunday, 03.18.07 @ 18:15pm


greenday will be inducted i guess dookie is what you could call a "fun" album but without american idiot they would never be inducted. Not only was american idiot solid songwriting throughout, it is the defing album for a time in american history (post 9-11)

Posted by chris on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 18:43pm


i am spanish...green day is the best!!!

my msn is varete15@hotmail.com

if somebody like speak with me

Posted by alvaro on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 08:48am


I believe they should get in. Regardless of whether you like them or not, they should get in for a few reasons. They are a tallented band. They have peronalities and history. They are awesome kickass rockers. I honestly don't see how all of you narrow-minded people don't see that. They will get inducted, and truly deserve it. I love their attitudes, and they're a bunch of cool dudes. Rock on, Green Day!

Posted by Natalie on Wednesday, 03.21.07 @ 14:33pm


yes green day shoud be inducted they are no doubt the biggest punk band ever and have sold over 60 million albums

Posted by chris on Wednesday, 03.21.07 @ 15:47pm


greenday has inspired so many artistes. if it wasint for them newer bands wouldnt even be here. even if your not a huge fan. everyone likes at least one greenday song. they dont care wat people think they alk about palloticts and things no other bands dare to sing about.. they so diserve to be recamended for futur rock hall i see nothing but bigger and better things ..

Posted by kristal on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 17:08pm


Right, if not for Green Day, NO modern musicians would exist AT ALL.

That argument certainly makes sense.

And of course no other PUNK bands have EVER talked politics. What a novel idea!

I have to turn off the sarcasm for a second. If the person above me honestly believes what she just said, then I have nothing but pity for her.

Well, pity mixed with a little scorn.

Posted by William on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 18:13pm


Don't say stupid things about "bands today."

Damn radio junkies.

Posted by William on Sunday, 04.15.07 @ 15:17pm


The number of albums sold does not indicate that they are worthy of an award. Pop culture is quite like aids. One person says they like something and it spreads like wild fire. If they make it than the hall will have no reputation left to hold on to.

Posted by Thomas Freed on Thursday, 04.19.07 @ 12:59pm


Green Day is in.. I mean cmon. With teh huge Alternative-mainstreem music boom of the early 90's, they were one of the few that stood out. Along with Nirvana, RHCP, and Pearl Jam, they are very influential and very simple at the same time. They haven't "sold out". They still rock the mic and their American Idiot albums even better than half of the emo/Pop/rap crap thats out there. I mean, if this was Pink Floyd's The Wall album and we complained how much their album "selled out" (it really didn't), that kinda makes us all hypricrates.
green Day haters should be ashamed of themselves. Green Day lovers, keep voting yes! Make them in the Hall by '14

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 04.21.07 @ 14:08pm


If bankrupting the people who helped you make a name for yourself just to get money that neither they had nor you needed doesn't count as selling out, what does?

Posted by William on Sunday, 04.22.07 @ 00:09am


Forgot to say one more thing, THEY R NOT A MAJOR MUSIC INFLUENCE, THEY MADE PUNK INTO POP CRAP, and its just aweful. case closed

Posted by Dave on Sunday, 04.22.07 @ 20:56pm


Not a major influence? That's almost as retarded as the idea that a single shitty band can ruin an entire genre.

Posted by William on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 00:17am


HAHAHAHA! wow...just wow. some people these days...

Posted by Dave on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 11:40am


Their influence, terrible as it may be, is very real. That said, there's no way in hell that a single band could ruin punk. Ever. You might as well have said that they ruined folk or big band music.

But I'll play along. Explain how they did it.

Posted by William on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 16:15pm


A single shitty band CAN ruin a genre, by showing other bands in the genre that songs don't need to be intelligent, edgy, or original in order to sell. By domino effect, the other bands do the same thing, creating a more popular genre, but in doing so, watering down the essence.

As for the number of albums sold, the numbers I've heard are all over the place. 20 million, 60 million... and the list of bands they have trumped in sales is very hard to believe, I don't think there's much evidence to back that claim.

The reason why Green Day is so popular is not because they are good, it's because they're so famous. The reason for this is the major label and sponsorship by MTV, VH1, etc. To get an edge over the other famous punk bands, they decided to adopt the methods of the bands that had emerged all over during the Reagan administration, and attack the conservative president. Seeing as how most mass media is liberal-biased, this worked like a charm, shooting their popularity through the roof.

Green Day has done more to hurt Punk rock than to help it, by bringing it out into the open and making it something people think they can do. Punk has always been about being least liked, and voicing views opposite to popular belief. It's supposed to be angry, and make a stance. Green Day took this and turned it around, putting out popular views and opinions that people will like, turning Punk rock into Pop rock. A punk is a rebel. You're rebelling if you're f***ing PART OF THE MAJORITY!

Sadly, the rock hall seems to be now about a popularity contest, and not a real talent contest. Whoever can sell the most albums gets in, so Green Day will probably make it in.

If you're going to say "Why would a band be popular if they were bad?" think about this for a moment.
According to Green Day, Bush is a bad president. Bush got Re-elected. That means more than 50% of you dumbf***s voted for a bad president. TWICE!

I don't NEED to buy all their CD's to tell whether they suck or not. If I buy one or two and they both suck, I'm not going to go back to the store and buy all the rest just to see if they suck as well. If you do this kind of thing, then no wonder you think they're a good band.

'Nuff said.

Posted by King Wiley on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 16:51pm


EDIT:
You're not rebelling if you're PART OF THE MAJORITY!


I hate when the most important sentence in the essay is the only one that is messed up.

Posted by King Wiley on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 16:55pm


interesting points, and the bottom line is that green day doesnt belong in the rock hall along with eric clapton, the doors, the stones and all the other great bands. please underdstand that! so stop tryin to argue that they should get in cuz ull be BURNED even worse the next time. enough is enough.

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 23:14pm


Do I need to just list the sheer number of non-sellout punk bands that have come, gone, and currently exist in this post-Green Day world for you to get it?

The might ruin your daily drive while listening to the radio, but they are not even remotely capable of ruining punk.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 23:55pm


Green Day BETTER be inducted into the hall of fame. they did sooo much for the future of punk rock that it would be a shame if anyone in this world would deny them that honor. they changed the way that me and many other people in this hell hole that we call earth look at their music. I TOTALLY RESPECT them for that....

ROCK ON GREEN DAY!!!!!

Posted by cody leach on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 05:59am


Again, no one band has the power to radically influence an entire genre unless they happen to create it or at least get in on it very early.

Green Day were nowhere near the first pop-punk bands. The only influence they have is on a few current and former mainstream pop-punk bands. They have virtually nothing in the way of innovation.

Posted by William on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 06:41am


u just dont get it do u cody...

Posted by Dave on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 07:57am


Sure, go ahead and list punk bands today that weren't influenced by Green Day.

If so many weren't influenced by Green Day and remain good punk bands, then I guess Green Day isn't that influential after all, huh? So if they're not influential, why add them to the hall of fame?

If, on the other hand, they ARE that influential, then they have ruined all of those current bands today that they influenced, and should not be added to the hall of fame.

Posted by King Wiley on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 21:13pm


The hell? Changing the punk culture?

First off, there's not any one single punk scene. There's several going on at any given time. Second, nothing they do hasn't been done before. Nothing. They're not changing jack.

Posted by William on Friday, 04.27.07 @ 18:17pm


Being the manager would b sweet, and i would try 2 be nicer lol, but all kiddin aside here, the thing is dude, there r other punk bands tryin 2 make a change in punk culture who r not in the mainstream. Could b indie bands/bands with independant labels. The way green day did it is that theyve brought pop punk in2 mainstream, turing it in a way that punk wouldnt want it 2 to be. hell the lead singer of the sex pistols said this, "So there we are fending off all that and it pisses me off that years later a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves. They didn't earn their wings to do that and if they were true punk they wouldn't look anything like they do." So i hope u understand this plus they were not the only band that did this. Hell dookie was theyre 1st major label signing. Before that, they were no major label signings. What im saying is this, i dont respect this band who are tryin 2 b different, cuz theyre not, and now theyre just changing their image (emo looking) to regain popularity with a younger audiance for instance american idiot which is just aweful pure and simple.

Posted by Dave on Friday, 04.27.07 @ 19:15pm


Im just stating the facts here. The truth, thats it.

Posted by Dave on Saturday, 04.28.07 @ 12:53pm


At first i was being a prick though, so my bad, hehe, but i still stand on my side on green day, plus we r all entitled to our opinions and not everyone will like the same thing.

Posted by Dave on Tuesday, 05.1.07 @ 11:56am


I think they're well worthy enough, and their so popular it's probably not even possible for them to not make it! They had a few great albums, and if anyone hasn't heard yet, they are going to release 3 albums during summer '08, it is undecided if it will be released as a set. Imagine it, 50 new Green Day songs all at once! You must have bravery to attempt that, they should be inducted just for that!

Posted by Robert on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 22:01pm


yeah see robert has a point..that does take some balls..but hey thats what us green day fans live for huh?...but whatever im dont talking about this subject...byeee

Posted by cody leach on Thursday, 05.3.07 @ 08:18am


Releasing 50+ songs all at once does not make them any better of a band, or brave, or anything. I don't know why I even bother, this site really has no affiliation with the real rock and roll hall of fame.

Posted by King Wiley on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 22:44pm


Indeed - the real Rock Hall takes no suggestions from the little people. This entire site is an exercise in futility, if you look at it one way. Or, just a way to express why you like what you do.

Posted by Moni3 on Tuesday, 05.15.07 @ 06:22am


If you want to express yourself, go join a normal forum, instead of hanging around this useless P.O.S.

Posted by King Wiley on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 02:01am


There is no possibility of them NOT getting in. "Dookie" broke punk into the mainstream for the first time, "Insomniac" was one of the first times a band could release a very difficult album and still have it become succesful, "nimrod." featured "Time of Your Life", which will be heard at every graduation until the universe implodes, "Warning:"...let's not talk about that one. "American Idiot" had people reminding them of their influence on every punk band to come out in the past decade. Even if you hate them, you have to admit they did alot for their genre. Probably will get inducted first or second year, especially with the suprise hit that was "American Idiot". Grammy for 2005 "Record of the Year" (for "Boulevard of Broken Dreams") doesn't hurt either.

Posted by Ryan Gibbs on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:14pm


wow. Green Day definately deserves this. i mean duh. they have so many influences, and are only second to pearl jam when it comes to having so many influences. that's pretty good. They freakin played in Woodstock! and so many underground places. They are amazing, and probably deserves this more than any other band i know. :]

Posted by hehe on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 00:28am


omfg. why is everyone going off about green day on a website!? clearly this is for the people who love green day. wtf yall need to get over yourselves, seriously. This is ridiculous. Fighting over the internet is about as stupid as being in the olympics. if you win, you're still retarded.

but anyways, yes, Green Day so deserves this.
and i agree with the guy going off on Kendal.

you people should study on their history a little bit more before you try to talk shit.

Posted by Hailey on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 00:42am


"they have so many influences, and are only second to pearl jam when it comes to having so many influences."-hehe

I assume you mean followers whom they influenced, and if so, no. Even Pearl Jam's huge following isn't as big as, say, The Beatles.

"clearly this is for the people who love green day."-Hailey

Um, no. No it is not, and you're very dense for thinking so. It's for discussion, meaning people who happen to disagree with you also have the right to speak and make points.

"Fighting over the internet is about as stupid as being in the olympics. if you win, you're still retarded."-Hailley

This was dumb the first two hundred times I heard it, but you just added a new dash of stupidity. It's the Special Olympics, not just the Olympics (and anyway, the joke never worked since not everyone in the Special Olympics is retarded). I hope your simple brain can appreciate the irony. Retard.

Posted by William on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 07:15am


wow william your still on here talking shit about green day? you really need to get a life. if these people like green day then let them. it must be really hard for you to not say anything about someones favorite band. out of curiosity, who is your favorite band? actually i dont care, stop being immature about all of this and get a life

Posted by cody leach on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 05:56am


Have you been held back or something? None, and I mean NONE, of my above post is even in the slightest bit "talking shit about Green Day." The only thing I really said about Green Day at all was that they aren't the second-most influential band, and also that Pearl Jam is not the first. Not even close to an insult.

You need to spend more time reading and less time murdering brain cells with shitty music.

Posted by William on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 10:42am


They have some chances but sory they are not the greatest band ever.They are hardly a good band.But we must admit that they are successfull and that they could be considered. I mean they are not ridiculous compared to the worst bands that are in

Posted by roméo on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 11:12am


green day never really cared how many albums they sold. their mainstreem success was because everyone bought their albums and liked them. not because they are sellouts who don't care about anything but money.

Posted by sydney on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 09:28am


If they didn't care about money, they wouldn't have sued their old label out of business.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 10:41am


Green Day is a band that will be a big dispute. As a follower for a while, I say they should get in, but I will be brought down by my fellow old Green Day followers that they should get in for American Idiot, not Dookie. Don't get me wrong, Dookie, Insomniac, and Nimrod were great albums, and Warning showed there acoustic skill. But they wouldn't have gotten in with just that. American Idiot showed how versitile and mature they've become. Even early on, all three are very knowledgable and Billy Joe is very strong in his opinions and thoughts. Impact alone would help them get in. They are not as deserving as say a RHCP or Oasis, but they do deserve to be in. Just let Nirvana and Pearl Jam in first please.

Posted by Holty on Friday, 06.22.07 @ 18:08pm


The only thing I have to say about greenday is no, they are not creative. I don't care if they were anywhere near influential, they're just not creative.

Posted by Darkmagic410 on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 09:27am


The Hall has already inducted most of the Punk pioneers. The Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 13:54pm


Yes!
and even if you don't like Green Day, you should at least recognize their talent. They are important in the actual punk scene, and there's no doubt about it. Someone said that all their albums sound the same, that's not true. Listen to 1039/SOSH and then listen to Warning, you'll see what I'm talking about. Everybody has your own opinion, but please respect those who like the band...

Posted by Gaby on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 14:37pm


"Yes!
and even if you don't like Green Day, you should at least recognize their talent."-Gaby

If you're referring to songwriting talent, that might be an argument, but don't just say "talent" because most people automatically assume you're referring to instrumental talent, with which they're not quite overflowing.

"They are important in the actual punk scene, and there's no doubt about it."-Gaby

They might be important to pop-punk, but not "the punk scene." As has been said, there is more than one punk scene and while they are slightly interconnected, they are also distinct.

Posted by William on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 21:35pm


I totally agree with you William! I like Green Day, but they are not my favourite band.. I think they deserve to be in.. =D

Posted by Becky on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 02:21am


GREEN DAY IS THE BEST BAND EVER
THEY WILL BE ON THE HALL OF FAME
'CAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST

Posted by Maca on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 12:34pm


It is just SO FUCKING COOL to rip on Green Day! I must too!

Oh wait, I don't much give a rats ass about being cool. Cool!

Posted by Starr on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 13:15pm


yeah!! yeah!! yeah!!
green day is the biggest fucking great band in the world!!
they're great !!

Posted by cristhel on Wednesday, 06.27.07 @ 17:10pm


Manga de caretas...q les pasa???Q onda???Vos,que no queres que Green Day este en el RHF,seguramente te la pasas escuchando Mandy Moore.En todo este tiempo demostro ser una banda de la puta madre cerrandole el ojete a muchos de los putos de uds.
Pudranse pedazo de gatos come chipa!!!!!!! Y.......Come On Green Dayyyyyyyyyyy

Posted by Martin on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 05:59am


green day es lo mejor
ke ai en ete puto
mundo ke ai tantas
kagas y violencia
es lo mejor de toos
jajaja
ia kuidence
ojala ganen estos wom
x q son lo mejor

green day in my life

http://www.fotolog.com/x_lokomario_x

Posted by lokomario on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 20:02pm


green day
es lo mejor
es genial
inexplicable
q gane
no





xaooooooo

Posted by izak on Saturday, 06.30.07 @ 08:41am


Visit my Green Day Spanish Site.
www.greendayfod.net

Posted by fod on Sunday, 07.1.07 @ 18:14pm


son los mejores del mundo realmente los admiro y ellos se merecen eso y mucho mas. tienen el respeto de todo el mundo y mas de uno quisiera ser como ellos!!!!!!!! quisiera que vengan a la argentina.
son los mejores sin duda alguna.
alta graciaq, cordoba, argentina....
los amo..
...ro...

Posted by rooo on Monday, 07.2.07 @ 08:16am


Green day es y simpre seran los mejores...
llevan mas de 18 años de trayectoria....tienen mas d 10 diskos...son una banda ejemplar..

los llevo escuchando desd k tnia 10 años ..aora tngo 15.años...y en esos 5 años e aprendido muchas kosas...

e visto todo dsde otro punto d vista...mas maduro...y io kreo k mejor...me enknta esta banda...mi preferida....los AMO...kon too mi koraxon...

me e emocionaddo...reido...y llorado....kuando los eskuxoo....y me gustaria...k por favor ...

GREEN DAY..de oakland california..la banda de billie joe armstrong..mike dirnt...y tré cool...

pudieran venir...a CHILE....

y se podrian dar kuenta...k aki...y en toodos los lados...los keren...mucha gent...k los eskucha d koraxon...komo yo...y millones d prsonas mas...los kieren..aka.....


wenoo...eso es toodo...y ojala k ganen komo 100pre....


xauu..

karlos_14_knd@hotmail.com
www.fotolog.com/krlos_xxx

----------GREEN DAY-----POR SIEMPRE--------------


carlos ignacio zoñez espinoza



KArLiToX...

Posted by KaRliTox on Monday, 07.2.07 @ 14:21pm


greenday es el mejor grupo en el mundo su estilo es unico

Posted by francisco venegas on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 09:22am


GREEN DAY si, si , si
Que mas puedo decir de una banda que se ubica en el puesto 7 en llenar un recital con 130 mil personas y no lo digo yo. De una banda con millones de discos vendidos. De una banda de 20 años de trayectoria con 7 discos los cuales 2 son Dookie y American Idiot nada mas y nada menos. Quien no a tarareado Longview, Brain stew,
Hitchin'a ride, bailado minority o gritar BOBD. Tengo 2000 rasones mas pero solo quiero que se reconosca mucho mas a una de las mejores bandas de punk del mundo.
Ho my own...Here we go

Posted by 1039/kerplunk on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 13:03pm


yes , i live in Ecuador, i love green day , billie joe is the best , my life is beatiful, thanks God, thanks Green Day. Mi nombre es boris esteban bernal y yo digo uno dos tres cuatro Viva Green Day y vivo en Cuenca Ecuador mi e-mail es b_bernal182@hotmail.com, un orgulloso fan de green day.
Green Day number one , thanks God

Posted by boris on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 16:24pm


greenday es muy bkn pueden venir a chile porfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yaaaaaaaaaaa greenday es lo mas bakan de la tierra

Posted by johnson on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 13:56pm


kien mierda se mete en esta pagina y se le okurre votar NO??????????
akso son retarsados??????????????

Posted by aida on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 14:33pm


simplemente el mejor grupo de punk rock americano que ha habido en años...green day si sabe hacer musica...y lo mas importante sabe como atraer a la gente a que los oigan...
green day debe estar en el hall rock of fame!
a nadie se le puede ocurrir votar no...
si alguien vota no es ignorante en cuanto a cultura musical!!

Posted by kaura_green_day on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 17:42pm


Obviously Green Day must be in the rock hall of fame.
They know to make great music.
They are the best!!!!!
They really change my life, and their music means a lot for a thousands people.
Green Day rocks
Green Day rules
Green Day... my life

Posted by tere_whatsername on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 20:17pm


Son mas geniales eioss.!!
they are the champion.. ? ni idea komo se eskribe!

en fin!

Posted by maria paz on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 17:56pm


Holaa!!
soy de Chilee!

bueno Green day Es Siimplemente lo MAxiimo!!.. de todas formas.. kien puede decirle ke nohh! su musika realmente te atrae..

bno.. Ojala ke vengan luego x aka.!

bezzo

http://_____________________Happy.De.Cool

Posted by >>Happy.TT.ah<< on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 18:15pm


Green Day es ---<<--**LO MEJOR**-->>---

se merecen eso y mucho más... ellos se merecen lo mejor.

los sigo desde hace 3 años y desde que los escuché por primera vez no puedo dejar de escucharlos.

Quiero que vengan a Chile..-- hace tiempo que no vienen...

greenday_bmt_fran@hotmail.com

fotolog.com/punk_green_day_3

-- y eso po--*

xauuzz*/

Posted by francisca on Sunday, 07.8.07 @ 17:17pm


esta es la mejor banda de la historia!

AMO A GREEN DAY_
y me encanta su estilo, no le importa el que diran,y mas ensima ayudan a este mundo mal governado con actos de caridad
TE AMO BILLIE!

AGUANTE GREEN DAY!
green kizes

http://poliiitha_armstrong

Posted by poliitha_armstrong on Tuesday, 07.10.07 @ 13:24pm


HAY CARAMABA...Where are the spanish Green Day fans coming from all of a sudden?

Also, there's still a few remaining punk pioneers to be getting in, including the Stooges, who've been knocking on the door countless times so their time is coming fast.

Posted by maplejet on Friday, 07.13.07 @ 08:28am


jajaja!
claro k green day se merece su salon de la fama.
incluso ahora se lo merece!
ja!
soy la unica k escribe en español!
jajaja!
gringos culiaos!
jajaja!
los latinos somos mejores k ustedes
viva green day!

Posted by tania on Sunday, 07.15.07 @ 18:06pm


por supuesto que debe entrar, nadie tiene l derecho a decir que no debe entrar ya que ellos no hn escuchado todo el material increible que posee green day (insomniac-nimrod...) ¿como juzgan un paisaje que no conocen?

Posted by angela on Tuesday, 07.17.07 @ 19:33pm


obviamente tiene q estar porque es una d las bandas d punk rock mas grandes d los estados unidoss
son muy grososs amooo esta bandaaa!!!
aguante green dayyy

Posted by nikoramone on Sunday, 07.29.07 @ 12:51pm


Obvio Que DEBE Estar A Contribuido A Muchas Bandas !
A Funcionado Mucho Como Ejemplo ;)
Aguante Green Daaaay ! :D
http://tugreenday2.blogspot.com

Posted by Green Day 2 on Sunday, 07.29.07 @ 14:58pm


Their best album (debatable) Dookie everything else sounds ripped off of it.

Posted by Stephanie on Sunday, 08.12.07 @ 16:35pm


"everyone likes at least one greenday song."

no sorry i think you're talking about The Beatles. Or Oasis.

no they should not but will probably get in

has no one made the realisation that Boulevard is just a fucking Wonderwall rip off

Posted by liam on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 13:58pm


They will get in but I don't think they deserve it. American Idiot killed it for me.

Posted by Kelsey on Monday, 09.3.07 @ 16:36pm


They'll Totally Get In but American Idoit Sucked!

Posted by SaveTHEanimals on Sunday, 09.16.07 @ 12:23pm


savetheanimals, ive seen you're other comments and they all seem as if theyre 'pop punk', or emo as it is commonly known.

so shove off

Posted by liam on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 15:23pm


They will probably get in because of their popularity, but I don't think they deserve it.

Posted by bluesguyjon on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 19:03pm


definitely deserve to be in, best band around today

Posted by john on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 09:26am


"definitely deserve to be in, best band around today"

get a copy of Employment, listen to it, then think about thats statement

Posted by liam on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 09:39am


LO MEJORRRR!!!! MATARÍA PORKE VINIERAN A CHILE...

SERIA LO MAXIMOOO!!!!

AGUANTE GREEN DAY!!!

:::WAKE MY UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS:::

Posted by Pitufa77 on Wednesday, 09.26.07 @ 15:55pm


GREEN DAY X SIEMPRE LO MEJOR DE ESTE FUCKING MUNDO!!!!!!!
LOS AMO, CANTAN DEMASIADO BIEN...
KE VENGAN A CHILE...
KE SAKEN CD NUEVO!!!!!!!
LOS ESPERO CON ANSIAS!!!!!!!

PASEN POR MI FLOG..WWW.FOTOLOG.COM/BROKEN_DREAMS5

SALUDOS A TOOOOOODOS LOS FANS DE GD EN CUALKIER PARTE DEL MUNDO

Posted by kmy on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 22:07pm


what. the. fuck.

68% induction chance.

i for one am disgusted.

Posted by liam on Saturday, 10.6.07 @ 10:42am


"ITS pop crap"

Legend has it that there was once a time when punk was not on heavy rotaion on MTV, and pop punk could be a good thing.

The Buzzcocks and The Ramones are awesome bands, so don't go bashing their genre just because you're one of the many (including myself SHOCK) who hate Green Day

Posted by liam on Tuesday, 10.30.07 @ 16:00pm


Of course they'll get in, look how popular they are right now. Do they deserve it? No. Did they do anything to shape punk music? No. Bands getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for popularity. That is pathetic.

Posted by Todd on Saturday, 11.3.07 @ 07:42am


fyli

Posted by ytki on Monday, 11.5.07 @ 15:52pm


Yo lo siento pero como soy española escribo en mi idioma y no es porque no sepa hacerlo en ingles,pero para algo es el mas hablado en el mundo,mi voto va para esta gente primero porque me gustan mucho y llevan muchos años dando el callo y creo que este seria un mas que "merecido" reconocimiento a todo ese tiempo de locuras y buena musica que nos han entregado y despues porque tengo un gran amigo que si GREEN DAY ingresase seria la persona massssss feliz del mundo,yo creo que hasta mas que ellos,jajaja.un saludo desde españa.

Posted by def on Sunday, 11.25.07 @ 03:53am


yeah!! they will need to get inducted!! influence?? Green Day are a very big influece on many many contemporary bands!! and their music and meanings makes a difference in the life of a lot of people (includes me)... but i guees the essential album of Green Day is Dookie, i'd like American Idiot, it's an amazing album by the way, but Dookie make a change in the 90's music scene, and start the Punk Revival Movement along The Offspring's Smash, but of course, i'm very happy for the possible induction of my favorite band eva!! and i don't care what of their albums are the essential one.... LONG LIVE GREEN DAY!!! thnx def for the vote hahaha love ya!!

Posted by maul on Sunday, 11.25.07 @ 04:16am


Love em or hate em...
Yes without a doubt will be in. first ballot.
I will be the first to admit, I am a big Green Day fan, but I can understand why people don't like them, I mean, they did (accidently) kill punk rock. I personally don't blame them for all the bands that followed them who suck. But before you hate them for being "posers" listen to Kerplunk, Dookie, and Insomniac. You will see that pop-punk can indeed be real punk. Sure they haven't been a real punk band in 10 years, but they keep making music that inspires people. I just hope they don't COMPLETELY turn emo.

Posted by Owen on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 23:42pm


"I mean, they did (accidently) kill punk rock"

Despite the fact that it isn't at all possible for one act to "kill", and the fact that it was never accidental as they were an entirely corporate band from the off; they were not the only shite pop punk band of the 90s.

"But before you hate them for being "posers" listen to Kerplunk, Dookie, and Insomniac."

Already have. And I'm not impressed. I'm even less impressed when I think of the Buzzcocks and the Ramones.

"Sure they haven't been a real punk band in 10 years"

They haven't been a punk band PERIOD

"I just hope they don't COMPLETELY turn emo."

Well, unless they've been listening to nothing but Fugazi and Embrace whilst recording the new 'record', there's little chance of that.

Posted by liam on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 11:48am


yes no doubt about it green day will get it...there the best band of the last 20 years

Posted by john on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 18:33pm


If Green Day only did American Idiot, that alone would put them in the HOF. The album was a well thought out attempt at opening the country's as well as world's eyes to the injustice of the Bush administration.

Posted by Marc on Friday, 01.18.08 @ 22:40pm


That album was politics for simpletons, geared toward kids too young to vote. It was a joke.

Posted by William on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 03:45am


Even simpletons need to know the truth. Wouldn't you think? And the kids who were too young to vote then are the kids who will be voting this year. Therefore, isn't it possible that American Idiot served a purpose in this area?

Getting away from politics, the album did have some pretty good hooks and decent melodies.

Posted by Eric on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 08:10am


Green Day will get into the RRHL easily.In 2014 it'll be them and Nirvana that going in BABY!!!!

Posted by john on Friday, 02.1.08 @ 23:14pm


Green day was good in the 90s with dookie and their other albums but now they reduced themselves to commercial shit.If they are so punk rock wtf is blvd. of broken dreams? I believe that only tre and mike have the real talent in the band while armstrong churns out the same old pop guitar riffs and commercial lyrics.If they get in thats just not fair to every punk fan and every music fan cause we know they dont deserve it

Posted by bryan on Saturday, 03.15.08 @ 08:26am


Green day wll never be in the hall of fame NEVER!!!

Posted by someone on Friday, 03.28.08 @ 08:10am


LA MEJOR BANDA DEL MUNDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SON LOS MEJORES, LOS UNICOS...
SON TODO PARA MÍ =)=)=)
LOS AMO CHICOS!!!!!
Y SAKEN DISCO NUEVO!!!!!
LOS AMO!!!!!!! AMO SU MÚSICA!!!!!

GREEN DAY FOR ALWAYS!!!

Posted by KMY on Friday, 04.11.08 @ 18:04pm


I LOVE GREEN DAY AN THEY WILL BE INDUCTED!!!EASILY!!!

Posted by chris diefenderfer on Thursday, 04.17.08 @ 15:36pm


ofcourse they shud b inducted they rock!!!!

Posted by Ash on Saturday, 05.3.08 @ 23:24pm


Ughh, I really don't want to post here, but let me give you a few examples of bands that are more deserving.

Talent (instruments): Metallica, Blue Oyster Cult, Megadeth, Return to Forever (Jazz Fusion, intrumentally superior to almost any rock), Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slayer, Anthrax, Pantera, Michael Angelo Batio, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Alice Cooper, Radiohead, and many, many more that I'm probably forgetting.

Influence: all of the above...

Posted by Steve on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 15:14pm


Since when are Malmsteen and Batio more influential than Green Day?

Posted by William on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 19:48pm


Malmsteen and Batio...uh...play fast??? Oh yeah, and Malmsteen "releases the fury" on flight attendants!!

Posted by Gatarzan on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 20:03pm


green day might be arrogant and lack talent... but their songwriting skills are very good and have consistently released hits throughout the years despite getting older. they will be inducted, whether you like it or not.

Posted by coleman on Saturday, 06.28.08 @ 10:33am


Even If you dont like green day,
you know who they are. They've impacted you whether you like it or not.

Therefore,
They get in.

Posted by E on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 12:04pm


"So there we are fending off all that and it pisses me off that years later a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves. They didn't earn their wings to do that and if they were true punk they wouldn't look anything like they do"--Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols

There GD fans. Suck on the words of a true punk legend.

Posted by Tom on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 12:28pm


I wouldn't use Lydon as an example for why Green Day shouldn't get into the Hall.

"a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves"

When one considers that the Stooges, the N.Y. Dolls, and the Ramones all had albums out before the Pistols, that statement rings slightly hollow.

"They didn't earn their wings to do that"

Unlike the Pistols, who in the early days barged onto stages and stole time from other bands w/out asking. I don't believe any of those bands would say that they deserved that time.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 15:50pm


Punk is disorganized and chaotic. There probably isn't anything more punk than kicking a band off the stage in the middle of their performance, so that argument goes away.

As for saying that several bands came before the Pistols, so what? Are you gonna sit there and tell me that SP wasn't key to breaking punk in England and basically stole everything from earlier artists and tried to pass it off as their own. Cause I don't think that will fly.

Posted by Tom on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 18:27pm


For Lydon to yell and complain that Green Day stole his gimmick is ridiculous, when you consider the amount of theft that has run through the history of rock & roll.

The problem here is that you don't bother to clarify just what Lydon was referring to when he states: "so there we are fending off all that"

Is he speaking of the backlash they received? Cause if that's the case then Green Day is off the hook. There was never any social or political backlash to anything Green Day was doing, and to use a politicized statement out of context for artistic justification is wrong.

As for the Pistols starting punk off in England, I'll just say the N.Y. Doll's got there first, and the Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren handled them around 74-75 I believe, before he ever got to the Pistols.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 16:30pm


Damned Damned Damned came out a good while before Never Mind the Bollocks. Not trying to contradict the fact that the Sex Pistols were an important group at all, but I thought I'd point that out.

Posted by Liam on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 16:36pm


He was referring to battling the authorities. (http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=13310)

As for "stealing" artists work, that is completely different from flatly pretending to be something that your not. Good artists borrow great artists steal, remember? SPs influence and scope is pretty undeniable, though obviously they were not the first band to emerge on the scene, just the most prominent and well-remembered.

What he mainly accuses them (and I agree with regardless of anything else he did) of basically being a cheap commercialized band that acts as though they're a hardcore bunch of twenty-somethings with an axe to grind or something.

Posted by Tom on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 20:32pm


^^^^^
Thanks to the above two posts.

I do agree the Pistols were both prominent and well remembered.

As it is, I do believe that Green Day will make it in to the Hall. The obvious points have been stated & re-stated above, but one point that has not been mentioned has to do w/ what I already noted in terms of social/political. It had nothing to do w/ that, and it was all cultural. Oddly enough, when you mentioned the notion of them being a "cheap, commercialized band that... w/an axe to grind" (pardon my paraphrasing) you may have hit the nail on the head.

The same argument that the SP used in 77 could easily be applied to GD in 94. Lydon had an axe to grind w/ the way music was, and GD easily had the same point here in the US in their time. Whenever anyone talks about alternative it's almost always in cultural terms. There may be a little social talk, but certainly nothing political. If you wish to look at them as an act that helped push a cultural upheaval forward, then GD fits the bill, along w/ many more. I take nothing away from the SP. If & when the boys in the back room come to vote on GD however, and they need some lofty sense of "extra meaning" however, this might be the way they go.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 06:44am


What the hell did Green Day do to help a "cultural upheaval"? I always thought all they did was write bullshit, generic pop-punk songs for snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers to bop around to...

Posted by Liam on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 07:04am


You'll note that I stated they were "an" act - meaning one of many - to assist in a cultural upheaval. By this I mean the changes that occured some 15 yrs. or so, mostly w/in the US music industry. MTV's change to what would then have been termed "alternative" rock videos (before they started w/ no videos), the change in radio format from all "classic rock" 60's and 70's to the modern 70's/80's/90's/00's harder-edged rock. As I noted, when it comes to these things the voting folks love to toss this stuff into the mix.

As for "generic" let me just say that the punk ethos fits here perfectly:

3 chords + the truth (=) generic songs + the truth

The frightening thing is not when the chords become generic, but when the truth does.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 18:18pm


"I always thought all they did was write bullshit, generic pop-punk songs for snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers to bop around to..."

Well, Liam, isn't that basically what the mainstream rock biz anyway now? lol And if these snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers are a viable enough force to be declared the #1 worst thing to happen to the music industry, seems pretty important to me.

(Just kidding, of course, please don't take those comments seriously. Just having some late night fun)

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 22:43pm


I'm frankly surprised at the comments made by posters who don't think Green Day will get in (wish I could smoke what you've got ;-) ).

Anyway, there's no doubt that they'll get in & justifiably so. Their last album 'American Idiot' was their best & 'Jesus of Suburbia' is the best song they've ever done (and they've done some pretty damn good songs).

I predict they'll go in on the 1st ballot and if not that year then the next.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 07.17.08 @ 11:35am


N7ooNy skf83dnbfv9h2v64rn0vm

Posted by scania on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 20:10pm


Green Day and nirvana are the 2 bands getting in in 2014 all the other contenders arent even close to as good as those 2

Posted by tom on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 07:14am


Dookie alone should guarantee they get in eventually.

Posted by Kevin on Monday, 08.25.08 @ 23:16pm


Obvio que Green Day se merece su salon de la fama ellos son lo mejor de lo mejor los amo y los admiro mucho. Incluso ya deberian tenerlo ¿porque esperar tanto? son la mejor banda de toda la vida --->LOS AMO<---

Viva Green Day

Posted by Daniela on Sunday, 08.31.08 @ 12:26pm


Green Day goes right along with the sex pistols, Ramones,and the Clash as one of the greatest if not THE greatest pop/punk band ever.

Posted by mark on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 16:43pm


Love them or hate them, you must respect them. If Green Day hadn't existed in the early 90's in the Alt. Rock boom, we wouldn't have punk on the radio today. Whether or not you like the "punk" out today or not, it would be nowhere without Green Day, a band who fully revived a genre.

Posted by Jude on Wednesday, 09.10.08 @ 17:32pm


no, just no. not innovative or original in any form. not alot of bands these days are screaming out how much they were influenced by green day.

Posted by argh on Thursday, 09.11.08 @ 11:55am


Green Day is only popular ffrom the posers who wear those American Idiot shirts. Shoplifter completly sucks and I think Green Day is going emo because no one likes them anymore (ecpept the posers). There is a kid in my school named Aidan Sobina who came up to me when I was wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt and said quote "Led Zeppelin Sucks. Green Day is awesome". Unquote. I only like Green Day when they are in the U.K. and Billy Joe dresses up like a fool.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 10.5.08 @ 07:10am


Green Day will get inducted whether you like it or not.

The end

Posted by Quick and Dirty on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 13:52pm


Greenday is a suckess band.They should not go in

Posted by David on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 18:03pm


Green Day definitley deserves a spot in the Rock n roll hall of fame...They've sold over 60 million albums worldwide!!! They've also won a number of grammy's for best alternative album (dookie) best song (boulevard of broken dreams) and best rock album (american idiot)

Posted by vic on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 18:10pm


No way vic,WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GO IN,I so agree with Mike.

And Quick and Dirty Green Day Should not go in they do not have a chance in there life,If you like it or not

THE END

Posted by David on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 17:34pm


QUOTE"GREEN DAY IS AWESOME"UNQUOTE







- Aidan Sobina Poser

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 14:26pm


I'm gonna name all the bands better then Green Day!


AC/DC
Led Zeppelin
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
ZZ Top
Paul McCartney and Wings
Guns N' Roses
Yes
Grateful Dead
The Police
The Skyliners
Aerosmith
Yardbirds
Cheap Trick
Slash's Snakepit
Rolling Stones
The Beatles
The Shins
Velvet Revolver
Rage Aganist The Machine
Slayer
the list goes on and on

Posted by Mike on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 06:23am


Just curious Mike, what exactly makes them "better" then Green Day? Because your list sounds to me like it's just your personal opinion. I can name dozens of bands I find better then Green Day. However, some of the bands you mentioned are worse than Green Day ( who I don't find that bad) namely Slayer and Slash's Snakepit

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 17:14pm


Mike, that list seems awfully short. A list of band better than Green Day would probably have ten million or so entries. You'd save yourself some time by listing the few bands who aren't better than them.

Posted by Randy on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 02:28am


I have to disagree w/the posts that say Green Day aren't worthy of the Hall. Like lots of folks I picked up "Dookie" in 1994. (sounds pretty nasty, doesn't it?!) I've listened to a lot of their stuff over the radio & then the Internet over time. Several years ago when Tower Records was going down the drain, I lined up like everybody else to get the good deals, and one thing I found was the greatest hits package they put out (pretty much everything except the "American Idiot" album). There is some actual diversity in their work, for anyone who thinks it's just 3 chords/3 minutes for everything. Certainly the songs "Time Of Your Life", "Minority", and "Warning" all have a different feel than what was on "Dookie".

"Amercian Idiot" has songs on there that stretch far beyond 3 minutes, and the whole thing's supposed to be a concept album of some kind. It's easy to bash it as politics-lite, but it did kickstart a resurgence in political themes in rock music.

In addition, I hear everyone say Green Day has "gone emo" in an attempt to save their butts. Just how bad is this? Is it any worse than the Rolling Stones going glam in the mid-70's, or disco in the late 70's? Go find a Deadhead & ask him to justify "Shakedown Street", & I bet I could find a Green Day fan w/the same logic for "Amer. Idiot".

I say yes to them.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 06:11am


Not supporting Green Day for the Hall is pretty absurd...they had a near Hall Of Fame career after the first four albums while the singles from Nimrod, Warning & American Idiot have put them well over the line.

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 06:32am


Once again, here goes an opinion from someone a little older...I just never got the whole Green Day thing. I guess they're an okay group, and I'm not of a mind to put anyone down who creates decent music. So, with that in mind, I kinda think they're pretty ordinary, not a group that exactly set the world on fire. I classify them with a lot of artists who I consider "okay, but you can't induct everyone". My first criteria for that catagory is "they remind me of a lot of other groups before them", which means they have the perpetuation of the artform down, but they're a little lacking in innovation and influence (the first group I thought of when I first heard them was the Ramones, which is certainly no cut against them).

There have been scores of artists who have just a bit more influence and innovation who came before them who aren't in the HOF. But there's also a lot of artists who are inducted who have no business whatsoever in there...only the nominating committee knows why...the masses surely don't. Cheesecrop, it kind of goes back to the discussions we've had about Nirvana, so I'm certainly not going to say my point of view is correct, but simply my opinion...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 07:08am


Okay Randy, I'll continue.



Pink Floyd
Sex Pistols
Pearl Jam
Rush
Kiss
Def Lepard
Black Sabbath
Nine Inch Nails
Buckethead (he's solo but I'm not listing GN'R again)
Warrant
Nazerath
Metallica
The Stooges
Cream
Creed
U2
Cinderella
White Lions
Dire Straits
Iced Earth
Twisted Sister
L.A. Guns
Poison
Hollywood Roses







Your right Randy... it takes too much time.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 09:14am


There are some really awful bands in that list. Green Day might not be the best band in the world, but they are sure as hell better than Creed! I mean... Creed?! Come on! I rather listen to Modern Talking. The list of bands worse than Creed is a really short one. Let's try:

Nickelback

Well, that's it. Man that's a short list.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 09:46am


Green Day Should Get In Because:

INFLUANCE
I Wouldn't Exactley Be Proud of Who They Have Influanced (Blink-182, Avril Lavigne, ect.) But Still...

TIMELESS AWSOME TUNAGE
Seriousley, They Got a Whole Generation Humming American Idiot

HARD ROCKIN' SHOWS
Seariosley, Youtube This Stuff, Man.

P.S. Randy, Do You Just Sit Around And Listen To Guitar Hero All Day. Get A Life.

Posted by Tyson on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 09:32am


Yes, Green Day should get in the HOF. Dude, have you noticed how many bands sound like Green Day now a days? Do you want me to list them?

- Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Blink 182, Saosin, Panic! at the disco, All American Rejects. Every other "Pop Punk" band EVER.

Sure, none of these bands are worth anything. But So? They influenced an entire generation of Pop Punkers, and all of them are just riding the success of "Dookie" and "American Idiot". Sorry, But Green Day will get in.

Posted by Calzone on Sunday, 01.11.09 @ 12:02pm


Calzone...no offense intended, but you might want to make a list of bands who Green Day sound like who predated them. I think this is what might make it hard for them to be inducted. The "Rock & Roll Power Trio" concept has been around in one form or another since Johnny Burnette & the Rock & Roll Trio (who, by the way, should've been inducted by now, I would think), and from what I've heard of them, it's a case of "been there, done that". Consider the fact that I'm about as old as Rock, so our perspective might be a little different...which is cool! You always have some good posts...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.11.09 @ 12:14pm


Calzone, actually, those bands hardly sound like GD. Many of those bands lack a lot of qualities that GD has. First off, Mike Dirnt has noticeable bass riffs...FOB, AAR, PATD, all do not have songs similar to Dirnt's style. Also, GD's sound really vastly differs to them...in fact on American Idiot, their most popular song Boulevard of Broken Dream actually sounds more like post-grunge of Seether rather than pop punk of Fall Out Boy.

Posted by maplejet on Monday, 01.26.09 @ 10:49am


im sick of hearing the cliche' "oh greenday shouldn't be allowed in because they turned emo they only have three chords bleh blah bleh blah bleh blah BLEH BLAH"

do you people realize how difficult it is to mold a STYLE !?!?
Green Day sure had a style.
I always look for style, rather than skill.

everyone and anyone can play sloppy pointless quantity-over-quality generic guitar solos (metallica) that have no thought put into them.

Not to mention, Billie-joe reached a WAY more diverse audience than any other punk band. From ages 5 to 70, poor to rich, christain to jew, people love Green Day

Posted by word on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:31am


im sick of hearing the cliche' "oh greenday shouldn't be allowed in because they turned emo they only have three chords bleh blah bleh blah bleh blah BLEH BLAH"
Posted by word on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:31am


That is not why ..THEY ARE POLITICALLY CORRECT BORING!!

Posted by LOVEAND PEACE on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:40am


They should make it, there are a lot of haters out there because of their simple riffs. Its not about talent, its about their influence and the sound of their music. And their kind of stage presence is hard to find. I think without American Idiot album, there would be more percent of yes votes. That album drew a lot of pop culture attention and a lot of people disliked them because of the message.

Posted by Pete on Sunday, 02.1.09 @ 12:23pm


They'll make it due to influence and success alone. They are arguably the fourth biggest punk band of all time (other than the three that are already in), and plenty of people would (foolishly) declare them number one.

They're nothing spectacular (but are decent enough for hall standards), but they will one day have multiple tracks on 'Classic Rock' radio stations worldwide nonetheless

I say 'sure, no reason not to.'
The Hall says 'yes, more visitors'

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:00pm


"They'll make it due to influence"

What influence?

"They are arguably the fourth biggest punk band of all time"

Errr maybe, but that doesn't mean to say they're anywhere near the best. They're bottom-rung in terms of quality.

Posted by Jack H. on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:06pm


Based on your replies to me, we have different definitions of the word 'influence'... but it's the Hall's definition that counts.
Trust me, I agree with most of your comments, I just don't seem to be making my opinions very clear to you. Note i said, 'They're nothing spectacular', and I certainly agree they're nowhere near the best.
Regardless, Green Day shall make it in...

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:14pm


yo david,WHAT THE HELL IS WORNG WITH YOU?!?!?! You to ian! But mike thank you for listing Black Sabbath and Twisted Sister. and sure Led Zeppelin
has a cuple good songs. but Led Zeppelin is not beter than Green Day!

Posted by aidan on Wednesday, 02.18.09 @ 12:53pm


green day rocks you shold so put them in

Posted by matt naeher on Monday, 03.2.09 @ 10:05am


Yeah, but they're punk, not rock 'n roll.

Posted by S.R on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 17:57pm


lol, no matter what site i go too, rolling stone, hall of fame, fuse, youtube, Green Day are literally everywhere and its about a 70:30 ratio or love to hate. No, they are not as "great" as the clash / ramones, but honestly, they're music is way more talented than the ramones... i might get slaughterd for saying that, but ramones songs do sound the same and have no more than 3/4 chords...with the 21st century breakdown rumors, Green Days influencial style includes Bruce, the beatles and cheap trick now...hopefully more advanced. And for people who say they haven't changed, Listen to Dookie, then Idiot...or Warning for that matter...Green Day are one of the few bands in this millenium that saved rock...if you pick a Rap artist over this 65+ million selling band...then shame on you...Rock N' Roll has failed you.

and aidan...i appreciate your enthusiasm...but don't say Green Day is better than Zeppelin...GD's my fav band yeah...but i am on levels of reality...

Posted by McBain on Thursday, 03.26.09 @ 21:37pm


Dookie was a good album I have to admit but with that and American Idiot is all they have. They pretty much can't make it without anything else.


Let's compare this to I don't know Def Leppard


Pyromania
Hysteria
Adrenalize


Thats pretty good.



They have also been on many soundtracks for movies.



AND American Idiot and Basketcase are Green Day's only memorable songs.




While Def Leppard has:

Photograph
Two Steps Behind
Pour Some Sugar on Me
Rocket
Animal
Love Bites
Bringing On the Heartbreak

Posted by Mike on Friday, 03.27.09 @ 15:30pm


Dookie was a good album I have to admit but with that and American Idiot is all they have. They pretty much can't make it without anything else.


Let's compare this to I don't know Def Leppard

Posted by Mike on Friday, 03.27.09 @ 15:30pm
--------------------------------------------------
Now I'm never gonna knock Def Lep for starters... but I think you might just be underestimating Green Day.

If you're going to talk about songs that are big when it comes to radio airplay (providing you feel this still matters):

Longview
When I come Around
Time of your Life
She

along w/Basketcase & American Idiot are still often heard on radio. I'd also say that the INSOMNIAC album had an effect too. In it's time it was popular, kind of like Def Lep's ADRENALIZE, which I noticed you put down. I think there pretty even, when you look at it a little closer.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 13:56pm


The new album will secure them getting in. Theyre name is too big for them not to get in. Everyone knows who they are, and they make great music. 99.9% chance they get in

Posted by dirk on Thursday, 04.16.09 @ 15:28pm


Has anyone heard the NEW single? BTW, Green Day WILL definitely get into the hall of fame!!!!!!!!!

Posted by GD fan on Saturday, 04.18.09 @ 14:17pm


I heard it. Musically it's fine, & it's got a big chorus of sorts, like AMERICAN IDIOT. Only problem is that Armstrong's vocals on the verses are buried under the music itself. You can make claim to a gazillion punk codes all you want, but I'd definitely double-track the vocals at least.

It won't stop me from keeping my ears open to whatever they've got coming down the line, but I hope the singles afterwards have the voclas more up front.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 04.18.09 @ 17:05pm


Green Day brought back punk?? WOW.. I always thought they put a nice pink and green ribbon around it, and turn it into POP PUNK. Only when the Dookie album was released did they start getting air play.. Mind you, Kerplunk is a lot better than the stuff they put out today. Green Day really don't qualify as " punk " anymore, I for one did not see any punk influence on the American Idiot album, maybe that was just me.

Punk Bands far greater than Green Day:
Social Distortion
Rancid
I'll even say MXPX
and NOFX
Zebrahead
Screeching Weasel
The Casualties
Rise Against
Adam and the Ants
Beastie Boys - When they were punk
Billy Talent
I Will even name Blondie
Circle Jerks
Dead Kennedys
Misfits
The Exploited
Operation Ivy
Goldfinger
Patti Smith Group
Pennywise
The Queers
Satanic Surfers

Posted by A.R. on Wednesday, 04.22.09 @ 22:03pm


Green Day brought back punk?? WOW.. I always thought they put a nice pink and green ribbon around it, and turn it into POP PUNK. Only when the Dookie album was released did they start getting air play.. Mind you, Kerplunk is a lot better than the stuff they put out today. Green Day really don't qualify as " punk " anymore, I for one did not see any punk influence on the American Idiot album, maybe that was just me.

Posted by A.R. on Wednesday, 04.22.09 @ 22:03pm
--------------------------------------------------
Guess the question I have is, who said the punk of 1994 had to sound like the punk of 1983? Or for that matter the punk of 83 had to sound like the punk of 1976?

The fact that Green Day made it catchier as a sound means just that - they made it easier on the ears. Doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't punk. I do agree w/you on a few of those bands, though.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 04:38am


Green Day are one of the few punk bands, that IMO are considered Pop(ular ) punk. They were played to death on countless radio stations, received by large amounts of listeners or fans. Yes each has their own style of what they consider punk.. Thats like Avril, Spend 100 dollars on a vintage Iron Maiden tee, and call herself punk.. or pierce your cheek with a safety pin, and call yourself punk. In the process of " making it easier on the ears " by the countless play making the top 40 made them popular (Pop) punk. many "punk bands" have never really had the commercial success as Green Day. They are not as radio friendly.

Posted by A.R. on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 10:29am


Hardcore Punk is where it's at.The Washington D.C. based group Minor Threat comes to mind.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 11:21am


A.R., don't tell me you just lumped Patti Smith and Blondie in with the likes of The Exploited and NOFX...

Green Day didn't ruin punk rock because there was simply nothing left to "ruin". Punk after CBGBs and the first wave English groups means nothing. All of the legitimate artists became post punk and the foundation for later alternative and indie rock (Public Image Ltd., Gang of Four, The Fall, Joy Division/New Order, Sonic Youth, Black Flag, Minutemen, Husker Du, etc.)

The "more punk" argument is meaningless because the punk genre has no worth today. At least Green Day had pop smarts. I'll take a band that can write nearly Costello worthy pop songs over any of that generic modern punk sludge.

Posted by Elastic Man on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 23:29pm


What I said was, Re-read it, Bands far greater than Green Day. Blondie, Patti Smith, NOFX, and the Exploited are far better than Green Day. And Actually PIL is more rock than anything. To my knowledge, New Order, Joy Division, and I will throw in Bauhaus, were new wave. With the somewhat exception of Bauhaus.. New wave / Dark Wave. WHICH some of Blondie can be considered New Wave, However, They were a legit punk band.
Blondie for example, has had far more impact on the punk scene. Look at the sales of "Parallel Lines" alone, 6 of the album tracks were singles, with no commercial success compared to the likes of today.
It's ranked 18th in the greatest albums of all time. Mind you I leave out Rolling Stone.

And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in.

Posted by A.R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 03:58am


"And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in."

*cough*Velvet Underground*cough*

The funny thing is, I heard people saying the exact opposite. You should check out the boards for acts like KISS, Journey, Chicago. People there are complaining that the HoF isn't listening to the public enough, that sales, longevity and a large fanbase should be among the criteria, even that the inductees should be chosen by the public. You can't both be right.

In my opinion, it really doesn't matter if Green Day was a good punk band, (emphasis on punk). That kind of stuff probably would matter for a hypothetical Punk Hall of Fame, which is kind of an oxymoron. I don't care if they fit neatly in some genre or not. The question should be: were they important for the history of rock 'n roll? I say yes. Not because they are popular, but because when they became popular, they brought punk (back?) in the mainstream, and thus brought punk bands like NOFX, Rancid, even Bad Religion in the spotlight, solidifying their cult following. Many of the larger genres of the last decade, third wave ska, skatepunk, emo, hardcore punk, etc. owe their success to Green Day. If that's not impact, I don't know what is.

Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 04:43am


A.R. said: 'And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.'

Yes, that's why Three Dog Night, Styx, ELO, The Cars, the Doobie brothers, Chicago, ABBA, etc. are in the Hall. They couldn't keep them out due to all their commercial success (heh).

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 06:17am


Will KISS ever be in? who knows. I am not a fan of KISS..But when you think about it, KISS was plastered everywhere.KISS Dolls, KISS pinball Games, KISS this KISS that, They were and are Over rated. KISS got their influence from ( 2 bands that come off the top of my head ) Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath. Ok, NOW you have to look at what they contributed into rock and roll, Other than Dolls, Pinball machine games, Cards, Movies, the list with KISS is endless.. the contribution is very small.. They may have inspired many, but those that the inspired in the 70's pre say, were KISS wanna-bees. KiSS sold out early in the game..

The Commercial success of then, Paul in KY is far different than the likes of today, The Bands you named per say for example, were not plastered everywhere. Put ABBA up with Madonna for example..How much was Madonna sold to us from her first single? A LOT.. we had the creation of MTV.. Where as Abba had to rely on Live televised Preformaces.. The only Video ( and when I say video I mean MTV ) I can recall seeing of Abba is " When All Is Said and Done ". In fact If I remember that was their LAST single. Now put ELO up with the likes of the Beatles.. both were popular, however, The Beatles had a far more impact. More people became successful musicians because of the Beatles, The influence is endless and impact with the Beatles.

Posted by A. R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 12:03pm


A.R. thank you for responding. Understand your points on the sophisticated hype machine of last 20 years, MTV, etc. Just about all the bands I listed predate that era. They all were, however, hugely popular back in their heyday. None were as popular as the Beatles, but how may acts have been that popular?

I do think all were 'popular enough' to merit inclusion if the popularity you wrote about was a major factor in the minds of the Hall voters. I've come to the conclusion that 'excessive' popularity can be a negative to those voters.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 12:36pm


Conclusion wise, I think that is how the hall works..esp in recent years..Take Metallica for example, their MTV age was with the " And Justice for All " album.. there are no actual videos that predate that album.They were introduced into a larger audience.positive or negative. Then came the " Black Album " which was more radio friendly, they made it into the top 40.. Battling it out with who can remember for top video spot on MTV. Their album sales went through the roof. Mind you.. the band received practically NO radio play until the black album. NOW If they were not introduced into the " mainstream " with MTV.. would they even really be considered?

And I forgot to mention this, "The funny thing is, I heard people saying the exact opposite. You should check out the boards for acts like KISS, Journey, Chicago. People there are complaining that the HoF isn't listening to the public enough, that sales, longevity and a large fanbase should be among the criteria, even that the inductees should be chosen by the public. You can't both be right."

Well How many times have KISS done their farewell tour? How many times have they said they were hanging up the boots? and how many times they went right back?
What does album sales have to do with anything, That does not make the music. the music, should be influencial, make a impact.

Posted by A.R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 13:19pm


"What I said was, Re-read it, Bands far greater than Green Day."

No confusion with your intentions but those were all artists associated with "punk" in some way. My view is that the modern punk genre, which goes back to the bands like the Exploited who rose because of early punk but missed the point entirely, is bankrupt. So most of those types of bands fall short (or were never in the race to begin with.)

"Blondie, Patti Smith, are far better than Green Day."

For sure.

"NOFX, and the Exploited are far better than Green Day."

Eh...not really.

My defense of Green Day has nothing to do with how much I like them. I could care less, but I'll take a band that can craft a song like Warning-era Green Day could over simplistic political diatribes set to generic skater music (NOFX) and silly mohawk purveyors (The Exploited). I'm aware Green Day has fallen into this somewhat but my support of them is in their ability to create decent pop-rock.

"And Actually PIL is more rock than anything."

Have you ever heard the first three albums...? That's difficult stuff for most people to swallow and the very definition of what post-punk was.

"To my knowledge, New Order, Joy Division, and I will throw in Bauhaus, were new wave."

New Wave is a misunderstood catch all term thrown around by journalists. It could mean just the original CBGB bands (Ramones, Talking Heads, Television, Richard Hell, Blondie, Patti Smith, etc. I favor this because of its similarity to the film movement French New Wave.) It could mean post power pop stuff like The Knack and The Cars. It could mean synthpop or new romantic stuff. It can entail everything from CBGB to the duo Erasure (but it shouldn't...that broadness isn't what sub-labels are generally for). Joy Division/New Order and Bauhaus are post-punk bands. New Order is mis-labeled as synthpop, and thus new wave, because they used synthesizers but they actually worked in a different field (go over to the Depeche Mode page and read my posts about them near the bottom for detailed info. They were a key band in the progression of this music.) Post-punk is music immediately after punk rock that shows the influence of krautrock, avant-garde music, funk, and disco music/electronic dance music (the latter of which synthpop isn't a descendant of but did absorb its ideas later.) Most of the people involved with first generation punk (Sex Pistols, The Damned, Buzzcocks) became post-punk or at least developed their music parallel to it (The Clash.) Post-punk's musical ideas became "alternative" and "indie" music in America and Britain respectively by the mid 80s.

The following is a simple encapsulation of the artistic bloodline 1st generation punk is a part of by generation: (It's more complex than this but the basic idea is true.)

The Velvet Underground (avant-garde/garage rock/the beginning) > Bowie/Stooges/Roxy Music/New York Dolls (glam rock/art rock) > Can/Neu/Kraftwerk (krautrock) > Ramones/Talking Heads/Patti Smith/Sex Pistols/The Clash (1st generation punk) > Joy Division/New Order/The Fall/Gang of Four (post punk) > Sonic Youth/Black Flag/Husker Du/REM/Fugazi (no wave/early hardcore/early alternative/post hardcore) > My Bloody Valentine/Nirvana/Pavement/Stone Roses (Noise/modern indie rock/madchester) > and on and on and on.

My Bloody Valentine, Nirvana, and Pavement can all be traced back directly to the Velvet Underground via the preceding generations. Groups like NOFX and The Exploited are illegitimate because they are not meshed in with these artists in this way. I encourage you to read up on this stuff, it's where most of the important activity in the development of rock music post-60s has occurred.

"With the somewhat exception of Bauhaus.. New wave / Dark Wave. WHICH some of Blondie can be considered New Wave, However, They were a legit punk band.
Blondie for example, has had far more impact on the punk scene. Look at the sales of "Parallel Lines" alone, 6 of the album tracks were singles, with no commercial success compared to the likes of today.
It's ranked 18th in the greatest albums of all time. Mind you I leave out Rolling Stone."

Again, I'm not arguing about Blondie's merits. I agree. I like them.

"And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in."

There's nothing wrong with pop smarts. The Beatles had pop smarts. The Rolling Stones had pop smarts. The Ramones and Blondie had pop smarts. Nirvana had pop smarts. The Velvet Underground even had pop smarts. Bands that had limited commercial success have made it in (The Velvet Underground, Leonard Cohen, Ramones.) Other important bands at the fringe of success will make it in (Sonic Youth certainly will.) I'm not against the idea of pop music (Green Day.) I am against artists that just dumb down the substance and impact of their fore bearers, leaving nothing but sophomoric, generic music (NOFX.)

Whether or not Green Day gets in is no concern to me. They probably will and I wouldn't mind. Their success has nothing to do with punk and everything to do with their sense of pop songcraft. There's nothing wrong with that.

Sorry, it's probably a rambling post (I'm tired), but I hope my position is clearer.

Posted by Elastic Man on Saturday, 04.25.09 @ 01:00am


They're a really crappy band but they'll get in because of their fame...and because they were mis-credited with bringing punk back during the nineties.

Posted by arglefinkenstein on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 17:07pm


@arglefinkenstein

Miscredited!?! Alright then, who did make Punk Mainstream in the 1990's. Also, who else do know that consistantly puts out great music like Green Day?

P.S. -- If you think they are a crappy band you are an idiot! they put out great music and they are the best band in the world in the studio and live

Posted by gkhf.kjg;jhh on Tuesday, 05.26.09 @ 12:02pm


Hell yes!!!!!!

Posted by dean on Thursday, 05.28.09 @ 01:54am


I'm a big fan of pre american idiot green day. They should totally get in. They reinvented punk, then came along bands like good charlotte, sum 41, blink 182, and so on. The list goes on. Bottom line, if it wasen't for green day, we wouldn't have the modern punk we have today. I can't credit Green Day for single handily inventing it, but they played a major part (as did the offspring).

Posted by Justin on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 15:55pm


Green Day are locks are for the Hall. Thanks to their last two albums they'll probably get in first ballot come 2014

Posted by questKenneth on Friday, 07.3.09 @ 11:47am


8YOfeC fgoG62mvVof47J1fCaLkg

Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:39am


8YOfeC fgoG62mvVof47J1fCaLkg

Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:40am


8YOfeC fgoG62mvVof47J1fCaLkg

Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:40am


Although I am not in any way a fan of their music post-2000, I have to say that they will get voted in. I hate the ungodly noise coming out of the radio that is Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, All American Rejects, or basically any post-2000 pop-punk trash. However, they were inspired by Green Day and the skate punk they recorded in the 90s was boss.

Posted by YoEefs on Monday, 08.3.09 @ 08:14am


Quite simply the best band in the world.

Posted by Reality on Monday, 08.3.09 @ 17:34pm


They've had worldwide domination since Dookie.

Yes, they'll be in there.

Posted by Foxy on Wednesday, 08.19.09 @ 02:45am


Green Day had a rough patch through American Idiot, but I have to admit, Dookie was a phenomenal album full of songs any rock fan could get along with. A couple of years during which they weren't doing as well (but didn't Zeppelin during Zeppelin III?), but they pulled through and released some of the most relevant albums of the times, American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown. They have preserved rock while fusing the perfect blend of punk and mainstream popularity. Even when not compared to other modern bands, they deserve the best. They may be a far cry, stylistically, from Springsteen, but so is Springsteen from BB King

Posted by Grant F. on Friday, 08.28.09 @ 20:25pm


Green Day will get in. Why? Because commercialized poster boys always get in.

Posted by Breaker on Friday, 09.11.09 @ 08:56am


Those 'commercialized poster boys' can rock too! They'll get in some day, count on it.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 09.11.09 @ 13:14pm


I just saw them at the Forum in LA what show.. !
They make the Bealtes seem like a garage band!

Posted by rockinsue on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 12:09pm


I'm a Green Day fan, so yes, I'm going to say they should be inducted. But that's the fan in me.

From a critical standpoint, Green Day has been an influnence, they pretty much created the modern new-punk. (Yes, I call them this; I come from a Sex Pistols stand-point [I don't think the Hall is a piss stain though,] they are NOT true punk.)They have, however, inspired their own way of going at the music(Rock and Roll.) Nobody else has done what they do, be it their stage shows, or their music. They are their own thing, so really, I guess they shouldn't have a genre (that people create.)

People shouldn't just be looking at their recent work (American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown,) but also at the fast, upbeat young music, like Dookie or Warning.

Most people didn't start listening to Green Day until much after American Idiot (I will admit I dislike these people,) but they are basing opinions off of recent work, when the original stuff needs to be looked at. Back in the 90s was when they really developed their influence and their style. (And for anyone reading, Dookie was my first album.)

Green Day needs to be given credit where it's due and, yeah, they've performed live with U2 (Beasts. So amazing,) but they've also played acoustic songs, and made them popular, not just "that one slow song that I always skip." Good Riddance (Time of Your Lives) is the greatest example of slowing down their up-beat style, but still making it Green day, and inspiring regular people, not just musicians.

So yes, from a fan standpoint, and a technical one, Green Day should be inducted. It's a given really. There are other bands and groups that have done so much less, or barely exist, that have been inducted, so I highly doubt Green Day will be declined.

Posted by Zoii on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:06am


And to clarify, I don't think Green Day, if inducted, should specifically be stuck under Punk rock. They are not original punk rock (Bands like The Sex Pistols, the Ramones... You know what I mean.) They're everything punk is against- so no, they're not punk... They're like punk's rebellious step-son; just trying to do something new. But, they are rock, and that's what the hall is about. It's the ROCK and ROLL hall of fame, not the Punk Rock Hall of Fame.

So please, stop simmering this down to whether they're punk or not, because that isn't AT ALL relevant to their induction.

Induction is based upon 25 years of existance since their first album release, and how influential they are, not only to rock music, but the music industry in general, because let us not forget the Run DMC is in the ROCK and ROLL Hall of Fame, which is useless, annoying, and cliche at best.

And I say again:

They are rock, and that's what the hall is about. It's the ROCK and ROLL hall of fame, not the Punk Rock Hall of Fame.

Posted by Zoii on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:20am


A great band..!!! Heck the Drummer even uses Leedy Drums now that is to cool... They rock!!

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:35am


Green Day = inevitable

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 13:15pm


I would say either them or NIN are the lock for class of '15.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 19:13pm


Zoii, that was a nice writeup about the band's merits, but they aren't eligible until 2014.

Rest assured, they will be inducted at some point.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11.2.09 @ 06:15am


go mike. its aidan is that you

Posted by aidan on Friday, 11.27.09 @ 21:54pm


hell yea...green day is king of the punk right now and they will...

Posted by xerxes on Saturday, 12.12.09 @ 02:05am


Some how ripping off countless of other artists (Kinks Picture Book and Chicago 25 or 6 to 4)is original?

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 12.26.09 @ 21:42pm


evryones keeps saying Green Day arn't punk anymore (which is only true for some of there songs) but they are stil punk just s diffrent idea of punk, there own punk, and thats the point of punk to do things your own way, so all you people saying they need to go back to being punk think in through!!! if they did go back, thats not going with there own thing! is doing someone elses! WHICH GOES AGENST THE POINT OF PUNK U TWATES!!! GO GREEN DAY!!!

Posted by MT on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 10:30am


PRobably my least favorite band ever.

Posted by Shiton Green on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 08:42am


Hey "Shiton" nice 1st name. Your parents must love you huh?

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 11:39am


LOOOOOOOOL How do they say your name at school. Shiton HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GREEN DAY OWNS YOU

Posted by WTF kind of name is Shiton on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 18:10pm


I see the fanboys have been let onto their parents computers. I'm reading "best band ever" or "best punk band ever" (they're not even the best pop-punk band), and that they "reinvented punk" (they didn't.) I don't have Dookie, but I have heard a couple songs from it. I don't have American Idiot or the Lookout! stuff, but I do have Warning and Nimrod (my Dad's fault.) Good, but certainly not earth-shattering. Not innovative in the slightest. With that said, All-Music Guide says that in terms of post-Nirvana alternative bands, they're second only to Pearl Jam in terms of influence. They do have influence, and they did kind of revive mainstream interest in punk (at the very least pop-punk.) So, they've hit on two major categories (Influence and Impact) therefore they should go in, and they will.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 02.14.10 @ 21:06pm


I pray that Green Day gets in the RRHF they where the first real band i got into they have changed my life an thanks to them im not just a F in dumbass im my own person God Bless them

ps when people say they hate green day it just makes me love them more

Posted by Dobby on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 13:05pm


The action taken to national disaster is noble but it's a real shame that so many people take advantage of the negative situations.

I mean everytime there is an earthquake, a flood, an oil spill - there's always a group of heartless people who rip off tax payers.

This is in response to reading that 4 of Oprah Winfreys "angels" got busted ripping off the system. Shame on them!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/19/crimesider/entry5251471.shtml

Posted by Raceadoendade on Saturday, 02.27.10 @ 14:18pm


The response to national disaster is awesome but it's a real shame that so many citizens take advantage of the negative situations.

I mean everytime there is an earthquake, a flood, an oil spill - there's always a group of heartless people who rip off tax payers.

This is in response to reading that 4 of Oprah Winfreys "angels" got busted ripping off the system. Shame on them!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/19/crimesider/entry5251471.shtml

Posted by Ametritty on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 05:32am


Love them or hate them, they're a lock.

Posted by Chris on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 12:36pm


100% there going in!
is that even a question?? haha
and theese people talking about, ooo there not punk blah blah blah
last time i checked...it is the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame, not the PUNK hall of fame, if iggy gets in, no doubt GD is getting in!

Posted by Doug on Wednesday, 03.17.10 @ 00:50am


green day is not a commercial band!
the 94 punk big bang was not commercial! it was needed for punk to be introduced to the new generation so punk bands went on tv and the result was commercial success for them.you see after that they didn't give a damn about selling out.green day recorded insomniac with the anger that former fans made them by saying that they were sell outs.
green day doesn't give a damn about media and what they think of green day.because in 2004 nobody had the balls to talk about politics.but they came with american idiot which was a remarkable move in history of punk and rock itself.
i think green day is the most ambitious punk rock band in its history.even the clash wasn't this ambitious.

Posted by Pooya on Wednesday, 03.17.10 @ 02:30am


"green day is not a commercial band!"

Doesn't really matter if they are or not, no one should give a shit about so-called punker credibility.

"the 94 punk big bang was not commercial! it was needed for punk to be introduced to the new generation so punk bands went on tv and the result was commercial success for them.you see after that they didn't give a damn about selling out.green day recorded insomniac with the anger that former fans made them by saying that they were sell outs."

Sell-out is a ridiculous, overused term that doesn't apply 9 times out of 10. There's only artistic vision and artistic integrity. Modern "punk" bands don't have the former so the latter doesn't add up to much.

"green day doesn't give a damn about media and what they think of green day.because in 2004 nobody had the balls to talk about politics.but they came with american idiot which was a remarkable move in history of punk and rock itself."

All Green Day did was Bush-baiting, which isn't that big of a deal. All American Idiot really is is a simple love story in reference to Bush-era America. They didn't really address anything deeply. On the other hand, I personally find groups like Anti-Flag, who you could say talk about "issues" in their music, too serious for their own good, musically uninspired, didactic, and just completely ineffectual...and at the end of the day, not terribly deep either.

"because in 2004 nobody had the balls to talk about politics."

Many people did and in ways more probing and provocative than Green Day could ever hope to be. The simple fact is most people don't follow politics and public affairs seriously, even people who think that they do. This is why they're so easily taken in by sloganeering, ranting, and group think.

"i think green day is the most ambitious punk rock band in its history.even the clash wasn't this ambitious."

Listen to more music. The Clash were far more ambitious, it's not even close. They weren't foolish enough to be taken in by punker fools who have no clue.

I've defended Green Day in an above post. The only reason they're good is because they are (or perhaps were; not too fond of their recent stuff) capable of crafting fine pop-rock. There's nothing at all wrong with that. Their relation to punk is irrelevant.

John Lydon and The Clash, and especially groups like Talking Heads and Television who never sounded generic in the first place, never meant to create a genre, filled with people who are content to be generic. The true descendants of the first generation punk bands were the post-punk groups.

Posted by Elastic Man on Wednesday, 03.17.10 @ 22:18pm


John Lydon and The Clash, and especially groups like Talking Heads and Television who never sounded generic in the first place, never meant to create a genre, filled with people who are content to be generic. The true descendants of the first generation punk bands were the post-punk groups.

Posted by Elastic Man on Wednesday, 03.17.10 @ 22:18pm

Technically The Pistols, the Clash, Ramones, Television, Talking Heads, The Damned and The Buzzcocks were second-wave, if we assume that the MC5 and Stooges began it (but that's not a good story, since everything that's cool has to come from New York and London, right? Yes I know Buzzcocks are Mancunian.) As I said, due to their massive influence on a new wave of pop-punk they should go in (and will) but they're not even close to their predecessors. Nobody had the balls to talk about politics? Bad Religion have been tackling politics and social issues for nearly 30 years now. Just curious, Elastic Man, do you know BR? Good job on responding to that bollocks.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 03.19.10 @ 21:43pm


Well, you could certainly say that but it's just easier to use the CBGB bands and the corresponding British bands that started in '76 as a firm boundary line for the beginning of the punk era. But even if we do go back to the era of MC5 and The Stooges, I think we could still say the same thing (Iggy Pop says as much in the liner notes for Funhouse, and of course, The Velvet Underground more than anyone exemplify this.) I actually think the term "New Wave" was more appropriate for those late '70s groups because of its relation to the late '50s/'60s movement in film, the French New Wave...but like "Punk" it also became corrupted and was eventually used for bands that artistically don't fulfill that comparison at all. But then I'm an advocate of dropping the pile-on of genres and sub-genres and just looking at each individual element of a band's sound.

Bad Religion meant more to me six years ago when I was in a short lived punk phase (after my metal period in high school.) I soon tired of that and picked up my current opinions and interests. Maybe you could call it a maturation (I only wish it happened sooner.) No Control is the album I liked most and I still listen to it occasionally. Great energy and the band's lyrics weren't as politically or socially simplistic or bland as their contemporaries and descendants and they have a way with hooks most of the Epitaph/Nitro/Fat Wreck Chords groups do not have.

As for metal, I'll always have a soft spot for Iron Maiden.

Posted by Elastic Man on Saturday, 03.20.10 @ 01:03am


Green Day is already a rock legend. I remember hering my first GD song. I was 14 and was nodding off because MTV, was starting to suck. Walking Contradiction debuted in my memory bank as I stayed up long enough to endure the rockin' video. Since then I started watching more MTV, hoping I could catch that video-No dice until American Idiot surfaced! My favorite song on there is Wake Me Up When September Ends. I admit, Its took me about two years to feel the whole CD. One Day, I decided to play it through. I was like, wow. The whole CD is Jammin', from the beginning to the end. I declared it as the first CD I've heart that didn't have a single flop! Then I learned that it was Green Day who rocked Walking Contradiction. Soon, I started purchasing thier history in discogrophy. Walking Contradiction will alway be #1 because it introduced me to the rock world and led me astray from rap and R&B. I still go there occationally-Well, I'm African Amarican...I may have lost my Black Card, but you can't take the bass music out of my trunk, sort of speak. All and all Rock and Alternative always come first! I blame it on Green Day. The group is awsome, and Jason White is a good add-on. I hope they decide to keep him on board. He is so casual and calm when he play the quitar. Thier is something about him that maks Green Day a little more special. If the world dosen't declare you as rock legends-No worries. Your fans are all what matters. Oh before I forget, 21st Century Breakdown is a work of art! I love it. Some say it sounds like your last Rock Opra. I don't hear it and besides, if it dose... Come on people! An artist as a stile and image to keep. Finally, I'm disapointed that you didn't make a Before the Lobotomy Video. You guesed it! Its my favoride song on the CD!

Posted by Travis-Clarksdale, MS on Saturday, 03.20.10 @ 08:11am


Green Day will make it into the Rock Band Hall of Fame. So many people say that all their songs sound the same, but I can listen to 1 second of any song and tell you what it is, so that burns that theory. Yes, they play a lot of power chords. Guess what, so did AC/DC, Van Halen, Guns 'n Roses, and countless other bands. There are so many people who say that they have no talent, but all you have to do is look at their fan base to see that have an ungodly amount of talent in performance and entertainment. I'm so sick of you people who think that music is perfection. You are either so stuck up on your f****ing high-horse classical music ideas that if a band doesn't "sing" with their instruments they don't deserve a title or you are just trying to act smart and cool by acting like you know something about music that others don't and saying that a mainstream band sucks, just because they are popular. Bet you didn't know that Billy Joe's father was a Jazz musician and taught him how to play music. Just because they don't always play it on stage, doesn't mean they don't have the talent. But, this is the f***ing Rock-and-Roll Hall of Fame. Since when has Rock-and-Roll been about perfection of their tone quality and seamless harmonics? Never! Since the days of Elvis, Rock-and-Roll has been about the spirit of music and the free will of speech and actions against all that is deemed "proper". That being said, go to a Green Day concert and tell me you don't see the spirit of Rock-and-Roll in every note, kick, jump, scream, and f-bomb. Green Day more than deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. And even if you hate to admit it, you damn well know it to be true.

Posted by Jay Evans on Saturday, 03.20.10 @ 17:29pm


"Bad Religion meant more to me six years ago when I was in a short lived punk phase (after my metal period in high school.) I soon tired of that and picked up my current opinions and interests." I can tell New Wave's in there but what else? Good to see you got Iron Maiden into your tastes.

"Yes, they play a lot of power chords. Guess what, so did AC/DC, Van Halen, Guns 'n Roses, and countless other bands. There are so many people who say that they have no talent, but all you have to do is look at their fan base to see that have an ungodly amount of talent in performance and entertainment." GNR don't deserve induction IMO. Despite my agreeing with the power chords bit, what does their fan-base have to do with talent?

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 03.21.10 @ 21:30pm


Actually, Angus and Malcolm Young, Van Halen, and Slash don't use 5th (power) chords very much...their playing can be pretty tricky. AC/DC uses very basic chords with a lot of variations, for instance...and it's heavier than wet carpet. Billie Joe Armstrong really isn't much of a guitar player, kind of like Johnny Ramone...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.21.10 @ 21:40pm


"I can tell New Wave's in there but what else? Good to see you got Iron Maiden into your tastes."

I'll listen to basically anything. I can only say that I show open distaste at bowdlerized versions of classic pop ('20s and '30s pop/vocal jazz) or classical or jazz...and anything that smacks of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer (not prog in general but everything a group like ELP represents.)

I don't discriminate based on genre, just the aesthetic value of the music. For example, I made a rather crude comment on modern blues music here: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Sonny_Boy_Williamson

...Meaning I don't particularly care for the music of Stevie Ray Vaughn (however, I would quickly admit that he was a great guitarist.) On the same token, I'm not interested in most modern country music. The increasingly metropolitan nature of country music makes it no different from the most generic hip-hop, r'n'b, and modern rock on the radio. So it can only be salvaged if it works as a great pop song, which is increasingly rare. Both country and blues have forsaken their roots in American folk music, a form of music which is practically dead save for the odd instance of something such as the excellent "O Brother Where Art Thou" soundtrack making a splash(a movie which, among many other things, captures something of the essence of that music and what it meant to people.)

Here I tend to focus on the developments of the late '70s through the early '90s because I feel that they have become very misunderstood over the years.

My primary interest is film but I feel like I have nothing to add on that subject that hasn't already been expressed better by someone else...and it's not difficult for me to find people with like-minded views on film rather than popular music. This site for instance clearly skews toward American baby boomer, or at least '70s centered, interests so a differing opinion might be more valuable.


Posted by Elastic Man on Monday, 03.22.10 @ 04:21am


Oh, if anyone else read my Sonny Boy Williamson post and is wondering what the hell Blues Hammer is, here's the scene from the movie...(Blues Hammer comes on around the 2:30 mark.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaM6lTmhnak

Posted by Elastic Man on Monday, 03.22.10 @ 04:36am


Somewhat I went to high school with wrote a paper on why we should give old-time country music a chance. Part of it was pointing out that 99% of the stuff on "country" radio is crap. "Pop with twang" is how he put it :)

Posted by Sam on Monday, 03.22.10 @ 18:41pm


The way I see it with the 90's (or the artists that really stand out from the 90's, for better or worse)

Green Day*. Why they will get in: Caused a pop-punk revival, and are considered to be head-and-shoulders above their descendants. Only 1 lineup change. Still popular.

Why they won't get in: They may not show up for the ceremony. Also, some punk purists might try and keep them out.

Verdict: Lock, barring scandal or breakup.

Nirvana*. Why they will get in: Influential. Did bring Seattle to the masses, but are falsely credited with putting it on the map, and are also falsely credited with wiping out pop-metal. Still as talked about as ever, critics love them and they were a great band.

Why they won't get in: Krist and Dave might not show for the ceremony.
Verdict: Lock.

Pearl Jam. Why they will get in: Ten was a landmark release, just as much as Nevermind was. Very influential. Still find chart success despite shedding their audience. Critics love them. Some great stuff.

Why they won't get in: There was some resentment around Seattle when they broke out because it felt like they were riding on Nirvana's coattails (nonsense, as Gossard and Ament were in Mother Love Bone, a Seattle band that looked like it was about to break out at one point. Both musicians had been playing in Seattle since 1984 and Jack Irons was the Chili Peppers' drummer. They all paid their alternative dues.) Is there anyone around the Hall with some influence who feels this kind of resentment?
Verdict: See Green Day.

Radiohead. Why they will get in: Definitely innovative, and you can see some influence (see Muse.) Have the right amount of popularity on both sides of the Atlantic, and critically adored.
Why they won't get in: They might not show up for the ceremony. Verdict: See Green Day.

Nine Inch Nails*. Why they will get in: I believe industrial was around before them, but they are considered innovative. Reznor is Marilyn Manson's protege, so he does have some influence. Have had popularity, and were right alongside Radiohead in the "pay what you want" formula.
Why they won't get in: Could the fact that Ministry was apparently the first industrial act (thus, making them seem less innovative) hold them back? Verdict: Likely induction.

Foo Fighters. Why they will get in: The Hall obviously looks favorably on Grohl, they are popular and it looks like they'll be around for a while. They could have some influence by 2020.
Why they won't get in: Not really innovative (yet), and do they feel Grohl merits a second induction? Verdict: Toss-up. Let's discuss again in 5-7 years.

Rage Against the Machine. Why they will get in: In the world of rap-metal, they're the act most favorably looked upon, and a lot of people consider Morello to be innovative. May have some influence on nu-metal.
Why they won't get in: You know the controversy over them signing to Sony. They haven't done much since the reunion tour. Verdict: May not be first-ballot, but they'll make it eventually. Too popular and acclaimed to be ignored.

Weezer. Why they will get in: A degree of popularity and critical acclaim. Some consider them an influence on modern-day power-pop and emo.
Why they won't get in: Not really innovative.
Verdict: Can't tell yet.

Smashing Pumpkins. Why they will get in: One of the decade's most critically acclaimed bands. Managed to balance mainstream and underground credibility. Sounds like they're considered innovative.
Why they won't get in: Their comeback wasn't exactly well-received, and Corgan seems to be becoming more unpopular and irrelevant as time goes by. Verdict: Likely induction.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 20:19pm


(Cont.) Korn. Why they will get in: Considered the beginning of nu-metal, considered to be head and shoulders above the rest of that genre. Still popular. Why they won't get in: Nu-metal on a whole wasn't well-received by critics, and are they still influential? Verdict: Tough call, but if I was forced to bet I'd say they get in eventually.

Alice in Chains. Why they will get in: One of the godfathers of alternative-metal (one of the different branches of it), and you can hear their influence in some of modern rock. Somewhat innovative, and a good run of popularity in the 90's. Why they won't get in: Not as critically well-received as some of their contemporaries, and received some abuse when they began in Seattle ("Kindergarden" was apparently their nickname, implying that they were a lightweight version of Soundgarden.) Coming back without Layne has generated mixed responses, which is probably why the new album (which is good on the whole) isn't doing as well as it should be. Verdict: See Korn.

Oasis. Why they will get in: One of the biggest bands in Britain from 1994 to their breakup, and definitely the biggest in Britain during the latter part of Britpop. If what Liam says is true, they've influenced a lot of modern British indie bands (The Libertines, Arctic Monkeys.) The only Britpop band to really do anything in the US, and one of only a handful of British indie bands to break America.
Why they won't get in: Not really innovative, and have always struggled to shake the "Beatles rip-off" tag. Some critics have turned against them in the 2000's (see The Quietus), and didn't make much impact in the US after Morning Glory. Verdict: They'll be riots in Britain if they haven't made it after 3-5 years, so they'll get in eventually.

Red Hot Chili Peppers. Why they will get in: Considered innovative (somewhat, though much of their sound came from Gang of Four.) Nominated last year. Still popular years later. Why they won't get in: They may not show up to the ceremony. Verdict: Lock.

Soundgarden. Why they will get in: One of the early grunge bands, so they have influence. Definitely innovative. Had a massive album (Superunknown.) Why they won't get in: They may need to do some actual new material with this reunion to shore up more votes.

Jane's Addiction. Why they will get in: The only thing I have to say is Lollapolooza. In some circles, credited with making alternative cool for metal fans. Why they won't get in: Had some hits, but less popular than most of their alternative contemporaries, and haven't done much in recent years. Verdict: Critical acclaim will be enough to get them in eventually.

Blur. Why they will get in: "Popscene" is considered by some to be "Year Zero" for Britpop, and I'm sure Britpop had some influence. They were massive in Britain from 1994-2003 whilst being able to experiment with different styles. Had some hits before that. Why they won't get in: Never really did much in the US, which seems to be key for British acts to get in. Verdict: Maybe. If Oasis do, they might, and it would help their chances if The Smiths and The Stone Roses got in. If Oasis don't, no chance.

No Doubt. Why they will get in: One of the most critically acclaimed ska bands, and were massive for a while. Why they won't get in: Did they have that much influence? Verdict: Probably will get in.

Kid Rock. Why he will get in: Very popular. A recognizable rap-metal act for some. Why he won't get in: Has never appealed to critics, and was he innovative? Verdict: He'll struggle early on, but I could see him making it after the third or fourth year due to weaker ballots.

Celine Dion. Why she will get in: Massive. Why she won't get in: Not rock 'n' roll in any way, and kind of lacking in the I's. Verdict: Maybe.

Stone Temple Pilots. Why they will get in: Very popular. Have started a comeback. Why they won't get in: Considered early on to be Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam rip-offs, and still hated by critics even when they moved away from grunge. Not really innovative. Verdict: Maybe.

Mariah Carey. Why she will get in: Massive. Could be an influence on modern R'N'B. Why she won't: Doesn't have rock credibility, not innovative. Verdict: Maybe.

Tupac. Why he will get in: Still a towering figure in rap. Why he won't get in: How much rap will they recognize? Verdict: If they recognize rap beyond the imporant 80's acts, yes. If not, maybe.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 20:50pm


"I'll listen to basically anything. I can only say that I show open distaste at bowdlerized versions of classic pop ('20s and '30s pop/vocal jazz) or classical or jazz...and anything that smacks of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer (not prog in general but everything a group like ELP represents.)"

Of all the groups to find mentioned on a Green Day page...Emerson, Lake & Palmer ???? Sorta like stumbling upon a salad of grilled octopus, celery, fresh chiles, and candied lemon peel at the corner deli.

Pray tell, of all the groups that have come and gone the past 40 years why on earth would you be bashing the trio with arguably the most combined raw musical talent and intensity of anybody.....at least in the general "rock & roll" universe, limited as it is?

Posted by classicrocker on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 23:10pm


Ok, to say Green Day is one of the most talented bands of the past 20 years is a hugeeeee stretch. Maybe for people who only listen to the Top 40 and radio they would be, but overall deffinitely not. Billie can sing, but the guitar is pretty basic and boring, and even though Tre is a funny musician, he's far from one of the greatest, usually playing basic beats. While many people have compared them to the sex pistols as being band-wagon-ers, this is far from true. Never mind the bollocks was a landmark album, it popularized punk in Britian like nobody had ever done. They didn't say negative things about political figures just to seem cool, but because they knew that things needed to change. While green day started off poor and small, they became a huge hit because of dookie (which is 10x platinum now). I,personally have a 50/50 opinion on green day. While they do write catchy songs, they lack diversity and creativity, and to say their influential, well, If any person tries to play punk music, green day would be very minimal when it came to Influence compared to other bands. People are saying that AI shows their true talent are incredibly wrong. That was one of their weakest albums, Billie really can't write political songs, just songs that sound like they're really important but they all state the same exact thing...
I can't really put the rest of my thoughts into words right now, but I don't believe they deserve a spot in the HOF. Theyre just the nickelbacks of punk, it's all the same thing over and over yet it will become a hit simply because of who the band is.

Posted by Alex on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 21:37pm


I like Green Day But , I dont think they deserve it. sorry

Posted by Doki on Tuesday, 04.27.10 @ 16:58pm


Hell YEAH, Green day will enter.

Posted by Jorge on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 18:10pm


I do think Green Day would be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They've been around for decades and they've had lots of time, songs, and appearances (such as television, concerts, interviews, etc.) Green Day writes about everyday life: love, life in general, what's going on in the world, and even one song that sticks out to me. Wake Me Up When September Ends. It's about Billie Joe Armstrong's (lead singer) father passing away from cancer when Billie Joe was only 10 years old. The main Green Day members, Billie Joe Armstrong (lead singer, lead guitarist) Mike Dirnt (bass) and Tre Cool (drums) have all played in other bands besides Green Day, including Pinhead Gunpowder, The Lookouts, Foxboro Hot Tubs, the Network, and more, which shows true talent. Green Day is teaming up with various producers and directors to make a few things, like American Idiot on Broadway and Green Day Rockband (releases June 8th, 2010). So please allow Green Day to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! :]

Posted by Sara on Tuesday, 05.4.10 @ 18:52pm


As I said, they'll be inducted, no doubt in my mind.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 05.5.10 @ 21:43pm


Green Day is a very talented band. They are without a doubt the most influential band of the 2000's decade. They have sold over 65 Million albums worldwide. You can't say that they don't belong in the RARHOF just because you don't like their music. here are the facts: Dookie = Diamond record. Insomniac = 2x Platinum,. Nimrod = 2x Platinum. Warning = Gold. American Idiot = 5x Platinum. 21st Century Breakdown = Gold. (all certifications are United States, some of these records have sold better in other countries)
now if you look at their album certifications you can't say they dont belong in the RARHOF.

Posted by Cody on Sunday, 05.16.10 @ 11:33am


How are they either innovative or influential? Let's see...

-Power Trio Concept...I think that had been done before them!
-Punk Band...I'm pretty sure that had been done too!
-Post-punk...Joy Division kinda led the way with that...about 20 years sooner!
-Playing "rock music"...nope, they didn't come up with that, either!!!

Okay, I'm running out of reasons here!!! Someone please enlighten me...!!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.16.10 @ 12:00pm


You've helped me before, Gitar, so I'll help you.

-They're not innovative. Better punk bands, better power trios, and better pop-punk bands (both American and British) have come and gone, and I overall find them boring. Nowhere near the best band of the 90's or the 2000's.

-They're not post-punk by any means. If you've found a connection they have with U2, New Order, Joy Division and R.E.M. please enlighten me on that. I don't know how to define post-punk, but here's what All-Music Guide had to say about it:

"For many artists and musicians, punk rock represented the relaxation of artistic conventions and restraints. While some musicians interpreted this relaxation as a cue to be vulgar and anti-social — and thereby laying the groundwork for the nihilistic hardcore movement — just as many interpreted it as a way for them to push musical boundaries. These artists were initially categorized as part of the New Wave, but it became clear that the post-punk bands were more ambitious, serious and challenging than the pop-oriented New Wave groups. As a result, they rarely had the same commercial success as New Wave, but their records received greater critical acclaim and large cult followings that eventually turned into musicians themselves.

Post-punk was artier and darker than punk. It was less concerned with rock, preferring to concentrate on alternately haunting and abrasive textures, incorporating elements of the avant-garde, funk and worldbeat into their minimalistic rock & roll. Essentially, it was assaultive art-rock, one that had little connection with the bloated prog-rock of the '70s but owed a great deal to the experimental music of the Velvet Underground, the Who, Frank Zappa, the Stooges and Captain Beefheart." You can't say that about Green Day.

-They were actually kind of influential. They pretty much started a pop-punk revival, thus The Offspring, Blink-182 and the like. That and their popularity will get them in.

Hope that helps.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 05.16.10 @ 15:23pm


Definately yes. Green Day deserves this more than any other band out there whether you like it or not, you're just afraid. What, are they too political for you?? Pussy.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 05.25.10 @ 08:41am


i think people are just scared because Green Day is very outspoken and they don't care what everyone else has to say so that's why people don't want them in. well, that's too bad because Green Day will be inducted no matter what any of you pussy bitches think or say about them, they are too important to even take the time to listen to your sorry asses.

Posted by Brttany on Tuesday, 05.25.10 @ 08:44am


Brittany, (I believe that's your name and not "Brttany?" Let me know if I'm mistaken) although I do support the eventual induction of Green Day into the RRHOF (realistically, even if I didn't I think they're going to get in any way)I really would suggest you change your town of discussion, calling those who disagree with names names like "p*ssy b*tches" is a bit of a turn off to anyone who would want a serious discussion I'd think!!

Posted by Stefan on Tuesday, 05.25.10 @ 09:39am


OK a couple of corrections in that last post, "tone" and not town, "those who disagree with YOU"

Posted by Stefan on Tuesday, 05.25.10 @ 09:41am


Yes, I'm terrified of Green Day's politics. Suddenly The Clash, The Sex Pistols and Rage Against the Machine (and I could probably come up with more if you gave me the time) seem tame in comparison. Okay, sarcasm over.

What they're doing is not intelligent or edgy in comparison to what's been said before. I do think they deserve to get in, but it's certainly not because their tunes are rad.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 05.26.10 @ 21:55pm


haaaaaaa TwT no talk a inglishh TTTT____________TTTTTT HABLO SPAMISHH DEBERE SUBTITULARR MMMMMM VIVA GREEN DAY THE BEST ROCK OF WORLD XD!!!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡

Posted by VALERIE RMSTRONG on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 00:17am


"The American Idiot album is Green Day's ticket to the Hall. Before that album, they were still a popular and respected band, but that album moved them up to the all-time greats." - A-Killa

Why? It hasn't exactly been talked about in the same breath as The Wall or Tommy.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 17:52pm


Classicrocker - "Pray tell, of all the groups that have come and gone the past 40 years why on earth would you be bashing the trio with arguably the most combined raw musical talent and intensity of anybody.....at least in the general "rock & roll" universe, limited as it is?"

Because they don't do anything particularly well other than play their instruments. They're poor songwriters: ELP is incapable of communicating any kind of emotional state of human experience via music; if anyone finds ELPs music emotional I fear for human culture. It's classical pastiche. Intellectually/lyrically, ELP is Star Wars or The Terminator, not J.G. Ballard.

Basically ELP is only evocative of a high-budget Sci-Fi movie experience. It's the Avatar of the music world; All flash, no content. It's laughable that anyone would try to place ELP as pop music's paragon of high culture!

Posted by Elastic Man on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 00:57am


Brittany - "Definately yes. Green Day deserves this more than any other band out there whether you like it or not, you're just afraid. What, are they too political for you?? Pussy."

Green Day is hardly political. Politics for 10th graders.

Brittany - "i think people are just scared because Green Day is very outspoken and they don't care what everyone else has to say so that's why people don't want them in. well, that's too bad because Green Day will be inducted no matter what any of you pussy bitches think or say about them, they are too important to even take the time to listen to your sorry asses."

No. Read more, watch better movies, study art, and explore the world.

Green Day was once capable of creating some fine pop-rock but those days seem to be over. There's nothing wrong with pop, in fact we need great pop songs more than ever. It's a shame Green Day have traded that in for shallow politics in the form of boring anthem-rock.

Posted by Elastic Man on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 01:14am


"Because they don't do anything particularly well other than play their instruments. They're poor songwriters: ELP is incapable of communicating any kind of emotional state of human experience via music; if anyone finds ELPs music emotional I fear for human culture. It's classical pastiche. Intellectually/lyrically, ELP is Star Wars or The Terminator, not J.G. Ballard." -Elastic Man


I think you haven't listened to anything but Brain Salad Surgery....ELP have plenty of songs that are terrestrial such as From The Beginning, Trilogy and Take A Pebble. I suggest you you also give The Sage a listen from Pictures At An Exhibition. I still feel you're singling out ELP by calling them "pastiche." After all, rock & roll in general is a hodgepodge of various musical ingredients, so ELP isn't any more guilty than rock as a whole.

Basically ELP is only evocative of a high-budget Sci-Fi movie experience. It's the Avatar of the music world; All flash, no content. It's laughable that anyone would try to place ELP as pop music's paragon of high culture!

Posted by classicrocker on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 13:18pm


I agree that Elastic Man should listen to "From the Beginning"; gorgeous, and no real resemblance to "Lucky Man" or "Karn Evil 9".

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 17:16pm


Classicrocker - "After all, rock & roll in general is a hodgepodge of various musical ingredients, so ELP isn't any more guilty than rock as a whole."

I guess I'm questioning whether the VERY pronounced classical elements in ELP's sound amount to some aesthetic quality other than the much bandied about term "complexity". Example: Talking Heads' Remain in Light borrows from Afrobeat and funk music in general but it's performed with (actually, looped from select samples performed by the band by Brian Eno) a certain stiffness and anxiety that is perfect for the thematic content of David Byrne's lyrics. The technological aspects of the work and the full bodied, naturalistic african music create a unique tension that perfectly reflects the modernist themes of the album.

I find that a lot of Prog Rock fans, and especially ELP fans, never take this dimension into account. The general attitude a lot of ELP fans give off is that what they do is inherently better than things they would deem "simplistic." There's a tendency to announce that there's no inherent value in the pop song format and that ELP was somehow the future of popular music. They lean on the baroque side too much and the baroque is perhaps the most obvious part of classical music. It draws too much attention to itself. Even in their mellower moments I believe they could stand to do less. I just don't think that extravagance works with rock instrumentation (particularly the keyboards.)

I like King Crimson, mostly the mid 70s period, and some Genesis, I prefer Robert Wyatt solo over The Soft Machine, Yes is occasionally okay, but ELP just pushes all of the wrong buttons for me.

I might have come off a bit more snippy than I would have liked in my previous post but ELP has been a bit of a pet peeve for me.

Posted by Elastic Man on Monday, 06.7.10 @ 05:35am


pero pooooooooooorsupuesto que siiiiii
green day ha influenciado a muchas bandas
y le pese a quien le pese
van a entrar. si dices que no es simplemente por que estas estupido y no te gusta su musica pero no tienen que gustarte para entrar en el salon de la fama.
te guste o no
VAN A ENTRAR¡
¡GREEN DAY LOS REYES DEL PUNK ROCK!

Posted by green day fan on Sunday, 06.13.10 @ 11:32am


No doubt in my mind. Absolutely yes. I'm going to see them Monday August 23, 2010 and I'm super excited because I've never seen them before but after hearing everybody else say that they put on a great show, I just cannot wait. Now back to the R&RHOF, Green Day will be inducted whether you may like it or not, they aren't going to not get inducted by a few insecure people who say that they shouldn't be, they don't care about your stupid, unecessary, ignorant opinions. Yes, they will be inducted, there's no doubt in my mind.

Posted by Brittany L.A. on Monday, 06.28.10 @ 17:18pm


Yeah, sorry if I offended you Stefan, I'm just trying to make a point and if you don't notice, I use 2 names, Brittany and Brittany L.A. Just thought I should tell you:) Sometimes you need to use harsh words to make a point, according to what Billie Joe Armstrong said. I'm not ignorant or insecure, I just get angry when people say that Green Day isn't worthy of getting inducted because to me, that's a turn-off.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 06.28.10 @ 17:26pm


And why do you guys get so technical with your posts, it's kinda annoying, I feel like I'm at school again. Just stop, say what you want but don't act like you know it all by using big words. I mean, I respect your opinions but it's really not necessary. Don't act like you know more than us because if you want the truth, I've been a Green Day fan for 12 years now and I pretty much do know everything about them so don't come back at us with these big words, you're not intimadating anyone but yourself.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 06.28.10 @ 17:31pm


Fine, more power to you, but statements like we're "afraid of what they have to say" (When I listen to The Clash, Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion; I'm sure the same holds true for Elastic Man) are just pushing my patience a little. If an adult said that to me in the real world... God help either them or me.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 06.29.10 @ 21:43pm


Basket Case, When I Come Around, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, Good Riddance, Hitchin' a Ride, Warning, Minority, American Idiot, Jesus of Suburbia, Holiday, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Wake Me Up When September Ends, 21st Century Breakdown, Know Your Enemy, East Jesus Nowhere, 21 Guns, and Last of the American Girls have all been hits. Green day has sold over 65 Million Albums and they are far from being done. Green Day has been together for 23 years and are now in their prime. They will without a doubt sell over 100 Million Albums. Green Day has performed with U2 and has had a Broadway Musical made after them. 39/smooth went gold. Kerplunk went gold. Dookie went Diamond. Insomniac went 2x Platnium. Nimrod went 2x platnium. Warning went gold. American Idiot went 3x Platnium. 21st Century Breakdown sold over 300k in the first week and to date has sold over 975,000 copies. They deserve to be in the Hall.

Posted by Cody on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 00:03am


It's not that hard to get in when you are your genre. Green Day will definitely get in because they are punk rock.

Posted by Eric on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 11:21am


It's not that hard to get in when you are your genre. Green Day will definitely get in because they are punk rock.
Posted by Eric on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 11:21am

Green Day are NOT punk. Pop/punk maybe. They were one of the many punk revivial bands in the 90's and one of the first to make it big, dosen't mean they deserve a spot in the rock hall.

Posted by Otis on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 11:40am


Green Day has been around for 23 years and has only had 1 lineup change. Dookie, American Idiot, and 21st Century Breakdown will get Green Day into the hall. 21st Century Breakdown has been out for a little over a year and is just about to be platnium. Dookie went Diamond (10x platnium). American Idiot went 3x platnium.

Posted by Cody on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 14:52pm


I have an unconditional love for Green Day, and I voted yes for them, but there are still many other influential bands that deserve it now. But definitely next time around, after yet another groundbreaking album, Green Day will beat the odds and make it into the hall.

Hopefully, future comments will have correct spelling. I'm not taking this argument seriously.

Posted by Turd on Monday, 07.12.10 @ 08:28am


September 1994: The video for "Longview" was nominated for 3 MTV Video Music Awards for Best Group Video, Best New Artist, and Best Alternative Video.
January 1995: Green Day were nominated for an American Music Award for Favorite Alternative Artist.
March 1995: Green Day won a Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Performance (Dookie) and was nominated for Best New Artist, Best Hard Rock Performance ("Longview"), and Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group ("Basket Case").
March 1995: The Bay Area Music Awards were given out March 11, 1995 at San Francisco's Warfield Theatre. Green Day won the award for Outstanding Album, Outstanding Bassist, Outstanding Drummer, and Outstanding Group.
September 1995: The video for "Basket Case" was nominated for 9 MTV Video Music Awards including Video of the Year, Best Group Video, Best Hard Rock Video, Best Alternative Video, Breakthrough Video, Best Direction, Best Editing, Best Cinematography, and Viewer's Choice.
January 1996: Green Day were nominated for 3 American Music Awards for Favorite Artist of the Year, Favorite Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Artist, and Favorite Alternative Artist.
September 1996: Green Day's video for "Walking Contradiction" was nominated for a MTV Video Music Award for Best Special Effects.
January 1997: Green Day were nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Music Video, Short Form ("Walking Contradiction").
January 1998: Green Day were nominated for an American Music Award for Favorite Alternative Artist.
September 1998: Green Day won a MTV Video Music Award for Best Alternative Video ("Time Of Your Life (Good Riddance)."
January 1999: Green Day were nominated for an American Music Award for Favorite Alternative Artist.
June 1999: Green Day were nominated for a MTV Movie Award for Best Song ("Nice Guys Finish Last").
Febuary 2000: Green Day were nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Rock Instrumental Performance ("Espionage").
: Green Day blew away all competition in the 2001 California Music Awards (formerly the Bammies.) They won 8 statuettes: Outstanding Album (Warning), Outstanding Punk Rock/Ska Album (Warning), Outstanding Group, Outstanding Male Vocalist, Outstanding Bassist, Outstanding Drummer, Outstanding Songwriter and Outstanding Artist for the group.
August 2001: Green Day won Kerrang's Award for Classic Songwriter. All together, they were nominated for 3 awards; Classic Songwriter which they won, Best International Live Act (lost to Papa Roach), & Best Band in the World (lost to Slipknot).
2002: Green Day won Outstanding Group at the California Music Awards.
May 2003: Green Day won 4 California Music Awards. They are Outstanding Group, Artist of the Year, Best Guitarist (Billie Joe), and the "Spirit of Rock" award.
December 2004: Green Day wins the award for best song in a video game. "American Idiot" appeared in the Madden NFL 2005 game at the Spike TV 2004 Video Game Awards.
2005: Green Day are nominated for "Best International Group" at the 2005 Brits Awards in the UK. They lost to the Sissor Sisters.
Febuary 2005: Green Day won a Grammy Award for Best Rock Album (American Idiot) and were nominated for Album of the Year (American Idiot), Record of the Year, Best Rock Song (awarded to the songwriter), Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group, and Best Music Video, Short Form ("American Idiot"). Green Day also performed at the ceremony.
April 2005: Green Day won an award Favorite Band/Group at the Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards.
April 2005: Green Day win a canadian Juno award for Best International Album of the Year.
August 2005: The video for "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" won 6 MTV Video Music Awards for Video of the Year, Best Group Video, Best Rock Video, Best Direction (Samuel Bayer), Best Cinematography (Samuel Bayer), and Best Editing (Tim Royes). The video for "American Idiot" won for Viewer's Choice and was nominated for Best Art Direction. Green Day also performed at the ceremony.
November 2005: Green Day won 2 MTV Europe Awards for Best Album and Best Rock Group.
November 2005: Green Day won 2 American Music Awards for Favorite Pop/Rock Album (American Idiot) and Favorite Alternative Artist, and was nominated for Favorite Pop/Rock Band/Duo/Group and Artist of the Year.
Febuary 2006: Green Day won a Grammy Award for Record of the Year ("Boulevard Of Broken Dreams").
Febuary 2006: Green Day won 2 Brit Awards for Best International Group and Best International Album (American Idiot).
March 2006: San Francisco Chapter of The Recording Academy honor Green Day in a ceremony for those "Whose Talents and Accomplishments Have Crossed All Boundaries to Make an Enduring, Positive Impact on the Music Community".
April 2006: Green Day won 2 Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards for Favorite Music Group and Favorite Song ("Wake Me Up When September Ends").
May 2006: Green Day won Best Album for the Amadeus Austrian Music Awards on May 25th.
May 2006: ASCAP Honor Awards - Green Day and Annie Lennox where honored (article). Green Day got honored with the Creative Voice Award as well as for Song of the Year, Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
May 2006: Green Day won one of two awards they were up for at this years MTV Asia Awards. They won 'Favorite Rock Act' but lost the Favorite Video award to Korn's video for "Twisted Transistor".
June 2006: Green Day won 'Best International Group' at the MuchMusic Video Awards.
January 31st 2010: 21st Century Breakdown won the Grammy for Best rock album.

39/Smooth - Gold
Kerplunk - Platinum
Dookie - Diamond
Insomniac - 2x Platinum
Nimrod - 2x Platinum
Warning - Gold
International Superhits - Gold
American Idiot - 3x Platnium
21st Century Breakdown - Gold so far...about to be platinum..

Green Day has sold more copies than Motley Crue, Oasis, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Johnny Cash, The Police, Alice Cooper, and Willie Nelson. All of which are in or are going to be in the Hall of Fame. They will obviously make it in to the Hall.

Posted by Steve on Sunday, 07.25.10 @ 13:38pm


"Green Day has sold more copies than Motley Crue"

Possibly.

"Oasis"

Probably.

"Nirvana"

Possibly.

"Pearl Jam"

No way.

"Johnny Cash"

Probably.

"The Police"

Not even close. I'm stopping there.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 21:38pm


Without a doubt. A good sign of whether or not you'll be inducted is when you're asked to perform or present at the ceremony and they have been. Following the criteria that the artist should have influenced others, Green Day is in easily. Most bands today credit Green Day with inspiring them. They're songs may seem simple and not as creative as say Radiohead but they're a part of world pop culture. Also, all artists with their own video games are hall members....

Posted by Dom on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 12:24pm


whether you like it or not, green day will be inducted. they may not be the most original band but they still sound pretty damn good. they gave us music to listen to when grunge died down and then in the 2000s they were really one of the few bands that managed to stay ridiculously popular and bash the bush administration and be political at the same time.

Posted by ryan on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 19:55pm


I stand corrected, they did outsell that lot. My apologies. However:

"But definitely next time around, after yet another groundbreaking album"

What? Show me where they've broken ground.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 08.2.10 @ 22:04pm


helll yeah
green day is the best punk rock band EVER
they will get in like it or not
i mean cmon they are the kings of punk rock

Posted by daaaaa on Thursday, 08.5.10 @ 20:12pm


I do think they should be in, as it's not really their fault that the pop-punk revival they spawned was mostly bland. They will, of course, be inducted. However, I disagree that they are the kings of punk or the best punk band, and there are lots of other punk bands who would disagree with that as well.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 21:29pm


It's been a while, wow. Anyway I am soo fricken excited! Tomorrow I get to see my favorite band live at DTE in Clarkston MI. Holy shit, I can't believe I can actually go finally after being shut down last year when they came:( Anyways, I just looked on the ticket list and there is only 10 tickets left, looks like a lot of people have showed up for the concert. 'Member, no namecalling to Green Day or else I will delete your comments..XD Peace bitches.

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 08.22.10 @ 22:17pm


Today I just got back from the Green Day concert in Clarkston Michigan, wow what can I say, they were amazing. I have unconditional love for Green Day now that I've seen them live, they've completely changed my life. I will support Green Day until the day I die, without them, I have no idea where I would be right now...

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 08.23.10 @ 23:50pm


To make a long story short I've seen GD on Monday and my parents took me, well they hated them but after seeing them live, they had not one bad thing to say about them. Doesn't that tell you something? For all you haters, why don't you go see them and give me a reason why they suck so badly, I'm gonna tell you right now when you walk out of that arena, you will be speechless...

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 08.27.10 @ 22:51pm


Sam, I don't see one legit reason why you have this grudge against GD. You sound like a closed minded person who seems to think that just cause we happen to like GD, you think you can judge us and put us down, your wrong. To me I think you are a C***.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 08.27.10 @ 23:10pm


I feel the same way about everybody else who wants to be rude and disrespectful to Green Day fans. We are not stupid, actually I think the fans are very intellegent, high-headed people who know a lot about life, we're not airheads like you Justin Biber fans are, we are much different, and have better judge of character.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 08.27.10 @ 23:13pm


Thanks DarinRG, and yes I would like to join and support their induction, I'll do it right now.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 09.3.10 @ 20:36pm


DarinRG: I just voted for them on the Rock Hall Projected. I know they're getting in, thanx for the offer! ;D

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 09.3.10 @ 21:30pm


Hey DarinRG, I thought I voted them through but looks like I didn't. I might need some help with voting for them so I would appreciate it if you would explain it to me in more understandable terms because I kinda didn't get that. :S

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 09.3.10 @ 21:41pm


I realize they're a lock, and they do deserve it, but their fans are just making them look bad. Allow me to quote:

"Hell yeah, Green Day rock, they really started the 1990's punk scene, if you don't like green day, you're an Bush loving American Idiot". The stupid part of that is obvious.

"but there music has always been orginal."

"they should already be in there by now."

"green day put a dagger into the heart of grunge."

"if it wasint for them newer bands wouldnt even be here. even if your not a huge fan. everyone likes at least one greenday song. they dont care wat people think they alk about palloticts and things no other bands dare to sing about.."

"'Dookie' broke punk into the mainstream for the first time, 'Insomniac' was one of the first times a band could release a very difficult album and still have it become succesful"

"'American Idiot' had people reminding them of their influence on every punk band to come out in the past decade." (The problem here is that although they are very influential, it is impossible to influence every punk band in any timespan, because there are many different styles of punk.)

"clearly this is for the people who love green day."

"I mean, they did (accidently) kill punk rock."

Any questions?

Posted by Sam on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 12:17pm


Okay Sam, why are you pretending that you know it all? You keep bashing the fans on their comments and I think that is ridiculous especially if you call yourself a fan. Calling everyone stupid on how they comment makes you look like you are against their induction so if you are a Green Day supporter than you don't have the right to underestimate the other supporters on here, you sound like an asshole and no i'm sorry, but you don't know it all.

Posted by Brittany on Saturday, 09.11.10 @ 14:06pm


Sorry Sam, I wasn't trying to be mean I just didn't like how you were calling everybody out. No I'm not hating on you I just would like you to let those people say what they want and if they sound like assholes, then that's their problem not your's. Again, I'm sorry for the bitchy comment, no hard feelings and I hope you didn't take that the wrong way Sam cause I do really respect you and I don't want you to feel offended by that, I just wanted you to realize that. (:

Posted by Brittany on Saturday, 09.11.10 @ 14:11pm


I hope you don't take that the wrong way and again, I'm sorry and I do agree with you on that the fans are making Green Day look bad because some of those comments were just plain stupid but still, let them say what they want and if they embarrass themselves that's their fault and I'm sure they'll feel stupid after words.

Posted by Brittany on Saturday, 09.11.10 @ 14:16pm


Quite right. You are forgiven for any sins I thought you might have committed. I like some Green Day stuff and respect what they've accomplished (and I do think they should and definitely will be inducted), but I wouldn't really call myself a supporter, just someone interested in what they get up to. Locks for 2014: Green Day and Nine Inch Nails. I wouldn't call myself a know-it-all, just someone who likes to keep up with who's worthy and who's not.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 09.15.10 @ 15:29pm


Thank you Sam, I just wanted to bring that to your attention because I guess nobody else had the guts to do it. Don't forget that completely respect you and your opinions but I just think that if the fans want to make ridiculous, stupid comments like "omg, billie joe is so hot they are the greatest band everrr" trust me, they will feel like morons in the long run. I bet you half of these people on here probably haven't even heard of Green Day before American Idiot. I have at least over 200 Green Day new and old songs from Dookie, Nimrod, International Superhits, Kerplunk, Warning, American Idiot, and 21st CB also, and some pretty cool remixes of their songs. Let them act stupid because at least we all know what we're talking about and have Green Day's old music still on our ipods...unlike those other people.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 09.16.10 @ 09:29am


Alex, are you really trying to say that Blink 182 is better than Green Day? If that's what your saying then don't even comment on this board and take your shit talking somewhere else okay because I'm really not in the mood to deal with assholes today.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 09.17.10 @ 20:48pm


Yeah I just realized that. LOL, Sorry Jimbo I just got a little too carried away with the whole Green Day induction.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 09.17.10 @ 20:54pm


Yes, my name is Billie Joe but I'm not the guy you think I am, sorry. I do think Green Day should be inducted because I own all 8 albums and I think each one is great in it's own way. Green Day will be inducted in 2014, period.

Posted by Billie Joe on Wednesday, 09.22.10 @ 16:43pm


I've actually talked to Billie Joe on facebook, and yes, it is the real him. He is a very nice guy and is respectful and I'm sure he doesn't care what you all have to say. I'll leave it at that. BTW, he added me as his friend, I was sooo excited.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 07:49am


ok britt, wow u think ur so cool and u look like a bitch saying that shit! Calm dowwwwnnnnn! [btw im her twin:)]

Posted by Brigitte<3 on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 08:14am


isnt my twin a bitch?? [ i think soo] shes my sis i live wit that asshole and all she talks bout is Billie Joe

Posted by Brigitte<3 on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 08:16am


okay, don't listen to my sister. she's a retard and she doesn't know what im talking about and im not a bitch im just trying to make a point.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 09:33am


They are the best

Posted by rockinsue on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 09:41am


Green Day definitely deserve to be in this, so I vote for yes.

Posted by Brett on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 15:45pm


Green Day started out back in 1987 as a local band at Gilman. Gilman was and is a place where punk bands or any band can play their music for local people who usually had nothing else to do. Billie Joe Armstrong, Mike Dirnt and Al Sobrante were the orginal band members back in the late 80's. Al decided to go to college and leave the band so they go hooked up with Tre Cool, the recent drummer today. Gilman didn't want Green Day making it big so when they signed their record label for Lookout! Records, their Gilman crowed ditched them so Green Day went against them and made it big. All of Green Day's albums so far are Kerplunk, International Superhits, Warning, Dookie, Nimrod, American Idiot, Insomniac, and 21st Century Breakdown, not in order. Just a little background of Green Day for all the people that just discovered them AFTER American Idiot because trust me, they probably had NO idea that Green Day's been around this long.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 09.30.10 @ 08:08am


Btw Brigitte, we don't care that your her twin, she's making a point on how Green Day should be offered an induction to the Hall and besides, the things she said make sense so if you don't like Green Day then you shouldn't be on this board trying to be famous off of it.

Posted by Sammi on Friday, 10.1.10 @ 09:24am


I've Got Green Days First Album 39/smooth And Onward. Every Album And Singles.

Posted by Spaz on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 11:57am


Brittany You Forgot About 39/smooth
Released In 1989

Posted by Spaz on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 12:00pm


oh yeah!! sorry forgot about that one, that's a great album by the way, very underatted....

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 10.6.10 @ 08:19am


By the way, their song from 1,039 "I want to be Alone" is probably one of the best Green Day songs I've ever heard, also very underrated. For all those who think Green Day sucks, you should seriously listen to Kerplunk, 1,039, and Dookie, and if that doesn't change your opinion then I don't know what will. Green Day's one of the few good bands out today, everything else is shit, Green Day deserves nothing but respect.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.12.10 @ 07:52am


You just have to work much harder to find the good bands, that's all. Trust me, they're out there.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 10.13.10 @ 16:04pm


okkayy sammi, i could care less about what u say cause i can say what i want and i dont give a shit what u say bitch, and im not trying to get famous i could care less i did that cuz i was bored..

Posted by Brigitte<3 on Thursday, 10.14.10 @ 10:06am


okkayy sammi, i could care less about what u say cause i can say what i want and i dont give a shit what u say bitch, and im not trying to get famous i could care less i did that cuz i was bored..

Posted by Brigitte<3 on Thursday, 10.14.10 @ 10:06am


okkayy sammi, i could care less about what u say cause i can say what i want and i dont give a shit what u say bitch, and im not trying to get famous i could care less i did that cuz i was bored..

Posted by Brigitte<3 on Thursday, 10.14.10 @ 10:06am


I know there's good bands out there but in my opinion, nothing like Green Day though, bands like Aerosmith, Van Halen, Def Lep, and The Beatles would slide with me, but other than that, I don't really see any other band that I could really care for.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.15.10 @ 09:26am


Oh and just a head's up, Billie Joe Armstrong is 38 years old, not 23...

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 08:05am


Actually Paul, no you don't know what you're talking about. Dookie was an amazing album, Period. So was all the one's that followed...I also have every CD, so I know what I'm talking also...

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 08:10am


You know when the guy from the Sex Pistols called Green Day "cheap" and "not punk", well he has nothing to back it up with. Green Day came from absolutely nothing...They've earned what they have today and that has nothing with how the way they might look to people, it's the music that counts and definately not their apperance.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 08:16am


Here's some info that most of you probably didn't know about "the kids who had nothing to worry about" growing up. (Green Day):

Billie Joe Armstrong was physically abused by his stepfather and lost his biological father at the age of 10 due to throat cancer, Mike Dirnt's mom abandoned him when he was a child and left him basically with nothing, so he was adopted, Tre Cool was born in Germany and struggled to try to come to America and live the life they wanted to live...

Think twice before you start calling them undeserving in what they've achieved.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 08:24am


Because real punk rockers put their music on broadway.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 11:11am


You know when ***the guy from the Sex Pistols*** called Green Day "cheap" and "not punk"

Beautiful. You just outed yourself as someone who knows nothing about music, let alone punk.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 11:22am


I get where you're both coming from, but Chalkie, can you put quotation marks around the statement itself in the future? Some people haven't done that in other circumstances, and it can get confusing trying to figure out what they're quoting and what they're saying.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 06:50am


Chalkie, acutally I do know who that "guy" is. His name is Johnny Rotten....

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:25pm


And I know a lot about punk..thank you for getting me going.. I called him "that guy" because I didn't feel like typing his name, I was lazy so calm down.

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:26pm


Oh and one more thing, Green Day went Broadway because Michael Mehyer was interested in their album and thought it would be a good idea if he'd put their record out there on Broadway, they're just trying something different, that has nothing to do with how "punk" Green Day is....they are still punk no matter if they try Broadway or not.

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:29pm


And...I know a lot about music also, don't ever say I know nothing about music based on forgetting to type out some asshole's name on my comment, I know who he is and he's an idiot in my opinion and obviously know nothing about Green Day and how they pulled together as a band.

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:32pm


And GTW, I don't know if you're agreeing with me or if you're being sarcastic..??

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:33pm


Screw the Sex Pistols, they're just angry at the fact that Green Day's career is going great and will hopefully continue to go that way and their music career is far from how Green Day's is right now and him saying that they didn't deserve to get what they got, like success really pisses me off because Johnny Rotten probably has no idea how they discovered popularity and success, he's an asshole, end of story...

Posted by Brittany on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 19:46pm


You'd better duck after that one, Brittany.

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 10.24.10 @ 20:10pm


Why? I find The Sex Pistols quite boring and they really don't have anything to offer as far as their music careers, and they think they have the right to judge everybody, like Green Day and I will defend Green Day because I think that Johnny's opinion on them isn't true at all and he definately is getting a missunderstanding of Green Day, their look does not matter at how punk they are, Green Day's look is just a look, they mean nothing by it.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 09:29am


Oh Brittany, you're so wrong. The Sex Pistols released just one album -- Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols -- but it punched a huge hole in everything that was bullshit about rock music, and everything that was going wrong with the world, too. No one else has had that kind of impact with one album. You can hear their influence everywhere from Joy Division to Guns n' Roses to Public Enemy to the Smiths to Slayer. Never Mind the Bollocks is the root of everything that goes on at modern-rock radio. It's just an amazing thing that no one's been able to live up to.

Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 10:50am


Not really, most of Nevermind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols is musically redundant. The Pistols should of never kicked out Matlock, most the songs on NTBHTSP just copy the riffs from Anarchy In The UK and God Save The Queen.
They weren't the only important punk rock band, to name just a few, MC5, The Stooges, The Ramones, The Clash, The dead Kennedys etc...

Posted by GFW on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 11:35am


But I will say, God Save The Queen, Anarch yFor The UK and Pretty Vacant are miles better than anything Green Day ever made.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 11:38am


Nobody gives a crap what 'Johnny Rotten' thinks.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 13:15pm


GFW, I want some of what you're smoking ;-)

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 13:17pm


Please don't get me started....Green Day is far more original than The Sex Pistols, In my opinion and no, I don't care what Johnny Rotten thinks. By the way, Green Day's made some very impressive albums, like Dookie, 39/Smooth, and so on, they are very creative and they get a lot of credit for those albums so don't even say that Green Day's music isn't worthy because, it is, and if their music sucked, then why would they be getting a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 4 years? I don't see why people consider The Sex Pistols as "punk rock Gods" because as far as I'm concerned, they are has-beens to me but again, it's my opinion and I'll stand by it whether you like or not.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 18:49pm


Anything else you might want to say?

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 18:52pm


Brittany, even Billie Joe is laughing at you right now.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 19:03pm


I'm just saying that I am supporting Green Day, and I'm pretty sure that Billie Joe would agree with me because he isn't all that crazy about them either, yes he may like some of their music and they've probably been a little influenced by them but that doesn't mean that he likes them as people.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 07:36am


DarinRG, why would Billie Joe be laughing at me, I'm on his side, yeah I might look like an idiot based on some of the things I post here but hey, I'm just sticking up for my band, that's all. To me, The Sex Pistols is a joke and I really don't care what you have to say about it.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 07:38am


I think I forgot to mention those words weren't mine, but from someone who's word you might take.

Other quotes:

"There are bands out there still trying to sound like the Sex Pistols and can't, because they were great players."

"The difference between John Lydon and a lot of other punk singers is that they can only emulate what he was doing naturally. There was nothing about him that was contrived."

"The things that Lydon wrote about back in '76 and '77 are totally relevant to what's going on right now. They paint an ugly picture. No one ever had the guts to say what they said, to talk about someone getting an abortion. The only person who did anything similar to it was Bob Dylan, and even Bob Dylan was never that blunt."

And my personal favorite:

"By the time Lydon's vocal came in, I definitely wanted to destroy my past and create something new for myself. That's sort of the impact that they always had on me and my music. Anytime that I'm trying to create something, I always refer to the Sex Pistols, because it shows you what the possibilities are as far as music."

Signed, Billie Joe Armstrong.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 09:06am


Yes, that is a beautiful quote, but he has said that he didn't appreciate the disrespectful comments that The Sex Pistols once said about him and his band, I'm just stating what I've heard not knowing if it is the truth or not but yes, Billie Joe did say something about them acting like assholes to him and his band. Don't treat me like I don't know what I'm talking about, I know plenty about music, I study music so therefore, I've done some research on a lot of bands.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 10:01am


Who ever said it was all the sex pistols? i doubt Glen matlock, Steve Jones and Paul Cook really care about green day enough to say anything bad about them.
Also hot damn you, brittany, are one obsessed person

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 10:28am


"Yes, that is a beautiful quote, but he has said that he didn't appreciate the disrespectful comments that The Sex Pistols once said about him and his band"
-Brittany

The thing you have to understand Brittany, from someone who was actually there, it wasn't just John Lydon. Green Day was rejected by the punk community almost as a whole when they broke.

They were viewed as late to the party, after the fact, paint by numbers, punk immitators. It wasn't until their later years when they started expanding beyond that that they started to be taken seriously.

I think Green Day is a fine band, and I do consider them Hall worthy sometime in their second to fourth year of elegibility. Supporting Green Day is not the reason that you get picked on around here.

You continually tell us how much you know about music, but I've never seen a single post from you that illustrates it. You're in a good position participating in this group. You're surrounded by people that have decades of knowledge and perspective about music beyond yours. You could really learn a lot from the people in this group, as I have.

It's really up to you, though. If you want to continually post as a whiny, obsessed, closed minded fangirl, that's how you'll be treated. If you post respectfully and consider and learn from other peoples' ideas and respectfully share your own, that's how you'll be treated, and you'll get a lot more out of your presence here.

It's entirely your choice what you want your experience here to be like.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 14:43pm


GFW: Okay, yes I agree with you but I'm not an obsessed girl over Green Day, I'm just interested in their music..a lot and I apologize for looking like an idiot.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 17:25pm


DarinRG: I understand where you're coming from and maybe I don't show how much I actually do know about music on here and you just see all my comments like "Oh, Green Day deserves this." but it's not telling you to share how much you know about music on here, this is just for stating your vote for the Hall. I probably know just as much as you and everybody else on here does. I believe we got into it earlier about something like this too and I realize how dumb I'm making myself look here but all I'm doing is supporting them because I know their entire band's history and how worthy they are to be getting a lock, and I do apologize for acting out this way because, yes I am making myself look immature, but trust me I'm not, I just get really heated when people try to go against what I believe and I'm not a crazy fangirl, I may be just a little obsessed but that's okay. (lol) I'm just trying to state things along with you guys, and I apologize,...again because I realize how this is making me look, I'll try to keep it cool guys.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 17:36pm


"... but it's not telling you to share how much you know about music on here, this is just for stating your vote for the Hall. I probably know just as much as you and everybody else on here does."
-Brittney

Brittany, the Hall doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone on this site thinks.

Beyond the meaningless polls on each page this site is about people who are passionate about sharing ideas and opinions about the history of the Rock & Roll era. Nobody's coming around here to show off how much they know.

All of the regular posters here have very unique and knowledgable opinions. I've learned something from all of them, and I hope a few of them have learned something from me.

If you have this impressive wealth of musical knowledge, start sharing it with us. Enlighten us. Don't be selfish.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 18:19pm


I have learned a lot from the posters on this site and I respect each of and everyone of them on here, including you, but I feel like the people on this site don't want to respect me because they think I'm being disrespectful to them on their post, which isn't the case. I will say that sometimes I don't always come back with the right response.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 18:30pm


Most posters on this site don't have a problem with a differing opinion than their own as long as the counterpoint is delivered calmly and respectfuly.

I've seen things get heated at times, but it's almost always because one of the parties involved loses their cool and that cushion of respect.

I think you're right about the way you respond to things being a problem sometimes. If you keep that level of calm and respect for differing viewpoints, you'll do fine around here and find that other people will return that to you.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 18:56pm


And I completely agree with you, and thank you.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 10.26.10 @ 19:05pm


DarinRG & Brit - This sounds like a therapy session going on here!

Darin - how much do you get for 30 minutes on the couch? I mean, there's a lot of heavy analysis going on here!

Actually, this whole thing is a brainwashing experiment, Brit. This is just like "The Manchurian Candidate".

Only the riffs are better.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10.27.10 @ 05:14am


No therapy, it's just a little discussion.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 10.27.10 @ 09:23am


"Darin - how much do you get for 30 minutes on the couch? I mean, there's a lot of heavy analysis going on here!"
-Cheesecrop

You'd need really good insurance for what I'd have to charge you, Cheesecrop.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10.27.10 @ 14:13pm


LOL:-D ^

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 10.27.10 @ 14:14pm


Cheesecrop- "Only the riffs are better."

I would have to disagree with you on this on. I don't think it's just the riffs that are better, I think that Billie Joe Armstrong's lyrics are loads better and much clearer than any of the other bands, I've listened to the Sex Pistols and I literally had no idea what the hell they were trying to point out, like in "Anarchy in The UK" I really tried to understand it but I couldn't, and not always can you understand Green Day's lyrics either but at least their lyrics come from life experiences,I'm not cutting down The Sex Pistols but I'm just saying, I think Green Day deserves what they've achieved and to me, The Sex Pistols just kind of seem to ramble a lot. So yes, I've listened to them, and I didn't see anything really impressing about them...

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 10.28.10 @ 07:51am


And I'm not going to change my opinion on them because you may not like it, we have different views on different people and to me, The Sex Pistols are a joke. They called Green Day "Silly Fat Kids" which is the lamest thing I've heard in my life. Johnny is pathetic and so his band, I wish them nothing but hell. Sorry.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 10.28.10 @ 09:35am


The Sex Pistols: They think they have the right to judge everybody, for no acceptable reason. They only have one good song; "Anarchy of The UK" (I tried to listen to the other songs but I just couldn't make out what their message was) I read their biography, I didn't find one thing impressing about them. They are a lame excuse for a punk-rock band and I refuse to acknowledge them as being "punk-rock legends".

Green Day: They are known to be one of the nicest, most down-to-earth bands, they actually write songs that relate to people, just throwing that out there. They've been credited by many bands as influencing them to make music. (Not saying the Sex Pistols haven't been credited, I'm sure Green Day admires their work) They've sold over 60-80 million records world-wide. American Idiot was one of the best selling records of all time. They were voted "Band of the Decade" by Rolling Stone Magazine.

Just comparing the two bands, no I don't know a whole lot about The Sex Pistols, nor do I care to know. Just thought I'd share SOME of the history with you guys. Again, I'm not an expert on the Pistols, I've only listed a few things about them and Green Day, trust me, I know a lot more about them then this list above.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 10.29.10 @ 20:45pm


Quote from Billie Joe Armstrong:

"The Sex Pistols released just one album -- Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols -- but it punched a huge hole in everything that was bullshit about rock music, and everything that was going wrong with the world, too. No one else has had that kind of impact with one album. You can hear their influence everywhere from Joy Division to Guns n' Roses to Public Enemy to the Smiths to Slayer. Never Mind the Bollocks is the root of everything that goes on at modern-rock radio. It's just an amazing thing that no one's been able to live up to."

To read the full thing: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/5702/31963/32338

"Nobody gives a crap what 'Johnny Rotten' thinks." - Paul in KY

On top of the bands listed in the above article, there's all the guys in Manchester who started bands because of the Pistols. Let's forget about the great music they made in their career for a second, all right? Let's just focus on that one show at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester, June 4th 1976. That one show was enough to lead to the forming of Joy Division, The Buzzcocks, The Fall (who I just can't get into, I'll admit) and Simply Red (and The Smiths, as noted in the article. Oasis as well, but that was 15 years later.) How many bands came out of Joy Division, The Buzzcocks and The Fall? A lot. Even more than that if we include The Smiths. You'll find alot of other bands as well, including a little band called The Clash. They showed these guys that you didn't have to be as gifted as Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin to start a band. They also inspired the formation of Factory Records, one of the most important indie labels of all time. I'm not trying to flame here, and I don't mind Green Day at all, just thought I'd make an effort to keep things in perspective. To start a hate mail campaign against Lydon and co. in defense of Green Day is akin to a fan of The Killers (who I like) dismissing Depeche Mode or New Order.

"and if their music sucked, then why would they be getting a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 4 years?"

The Pistols are in the Hall as well.

"I don't see why people consider The Sex Pistols as 'punk rock Gods'" - Brittany

Asketh and ye shall receive :) Refer to my above writing

"They called Green Day 'Silly Fat Kids' which is the lamest thing I've heard in my life. Johnny is pathetic and so his band, I wish them nothing but hell. Sorry."

Where? Where did they say that? I know Lydon called them a "wank outfit," but he's been around long enough that he's more than entitled to these kinds of opinions (which band is pathetic? He has two.)

"They were viewed as late to the party, after the fact, paint by numbers, punk immitators. It wasn't until their later years when they started expanding beyond that that they started to be taken seriously." -DarinRG

I wasn't there, but that makes perfect sense. Pop-punk had been around for years (see The Ramones and The Buzzcocks) as had the California punk scene, that's why Green Day didn't get respect (I do think they should be inducted by the way.) I'll concede there are more important punk bands than the Pistols, nor were they even the first British punk band (that would be The Damned,) but they were leaders out of the gate. They and The Ramones were the bands that really got the ball rolling and made punk a real movement* (not to deny the New York Dolls, MC5 and The Satooges their due.)
*Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about that; it's just how I see things.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 10:34am


Damn it, not to deny the New York Dolls, MC5 and The STOOGES their due. My mistake. Paul in KY and Brittany: Sorry if that comment offends you, but that's certainly not my intent. Just figured I should throw in my 2 pence (cents to you.)

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 10:37am


Gee, lets just see those bands the Sex Pistols inspired.
Joy Division
Inspired U2, The Cure, Interpol Bloc Party Thee Editors Moby and the guitarist of the RCHP
Also New order came from Joy Division so lets check them out
New Order
"The band has often been acclaimed by fans, critics and other musicians as a highly influential force in the alternative rock, dance and rave music scenes"
huh.

Alright lets try the buzzcocks.
"They are regarded as an important influence[citation needed] on the Manchester music scene, the independent record label movement, punk rock, power pop, pop punk and indie rock"

alright what about The Fall?
The Fall have also had a profound influence over groups such as Franz Ferdinand, These New Puritans, LCD Soundsystem, The Long Blondes, The Birthday Party, Nirvana, Faith No More, Pavement and Happy Mondays

Wow, thats a considerable list
Now finally The Smiths
The Stone Roses and Oasis' guitarists were inspired by Johnny Marr immensely.
Blur formed after seeing The Smiths live on The South Bank Show.

I could go on to what the artists these 4 inspired but honestly that'd take too long.
Let's just say that it sure seems more important than who green Day inspired.

And Don't say green Day haven't been given enough time, they have been around for 20 years, the ones Sex pistols inspired were forming bands just 3 years after their LP Never Mind The Bollocks... was released.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 12:55pm


Sam,

I didn't care for the Fall the first few times I listened to them, but all of a sudden it just clicked. Recommended songs: "Cruisers Creek", "Bombast", "Blindness", "Touch Sensitive", "Telephone Thing", "L.A.", "The Classical", "The Lay of the Land" and "I Feel Voxish".

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 13:06pm


Well actually, Green Day has two bands too, Green Day and Foxboro Hot Tubs. (But I perfer them to stick with Green Day) I don't know, but I just thought I'd throw that out there....

I really do not care about The Sex Pistols, their music doesn't motivate me, I'm glad Billie Joe Armstrong likes them, but that doesn't mean I have to. I actually do like only one song off of The Bollocks, Anarchy in The Uk is probably the only I would ever listen to from them, and by the way Sam, Where Johnny calls them "Silly Fat Kids", it was on an interview with him on Youtube if you wanted to see it. (I actually was laughing the whole time.)

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 08:13am


And don't worry Sam, your comment didn't offend me.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 08:15am


And yes, Billie may admire The Sex Pistols' work, but I'm not sure that he likes them as people.

(Again, I caught this on another YouTube video. He actually calls Johnny an asshole.)

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 08:20am


Sam- "Which band is pathetic? He has two."

I was talking about The Sex Pistols, Yes, I think they're pathetic. Sorry.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 08:23am


What's the other band that he's in? I didn't know he was in two shitty bands.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 09:51am


Public Image Ltd.
Also you didn't seem to acknowledge post, surely a pathetic band couldn't do all that...

Posted by GFW on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 10:45am


Wow. I'm sorry I don't like them, get over it. Oh and yes, I've heard of Public Image Ltd., It just took me a minute to remember. Not impressed.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 14:45pm


GFW- "Also you didn't seem to acknowledge post, surely a pathetic band couldn't do all that..."

I have no idea what you meant by that.

Try explaining that sentence to me, I'm a little slow today.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 14:47pm


The massive post.
Also i'm not suprised you didn't like PiL, they are a pretty dull band.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 14:59pm


"Public Image Ltd." - GFW

Yes. My dad prefers them to the Pistols actually. One of the first post-punk bands. I'm not sure about the Hall for them, but since they apparently were heavily influenced by "Shadowplay" they make a strong case for Joy Division's induction.

"Let's just say that it sure seems more important than who green Day inspired.

And Don't say green Day haven't been given enough time, they have been around for 20 years, the ones Sex pistols inspired were forming bands just 3 years after their LP Never Mind The Bollocks... was released."

Okay, I don't think this discussion is going to go anywhere. Brittany doesn't have to like the Pistols if she doesn't want to (yes, Lydon has come across as an asshole at times, and his Green Day rant seemed a bit unclear in parts.) Hell, Pet Sounds is revered by many people but I have a hard time calling it LISTENABLE, never mind good. I'll end with All Music's first paragraph on Green Day, by Stephen Thomas Erlewine:

"Out of all the post-Nirvana alternative bands to break into the pop mainstream, Green Day were second only to Pearl Jam in terms of influence. At their core, Green Day were simply punk revivalists who recharged the energy of speedy, catchy three-chord punk-pop songs. Though their music wasn't particularly innovative, they brought the sound of late-'70s punk to a new, younger generation with Dookie, their 1994 major-label debut. Dookie sold over ten million copies, paving the way for a string of multi-platinum releases that opened the doors for a flood of American neo-punk, punk metal, and third wave ska revivalists. More than a decade later, as many of their former contemporaries settled into retirement, Green Day remained at the forefront of popular music with albums like the Grammy-winning American Idiot."

That's why they're (deservedly) going into the Hall, just like the Pistols. Nothing more to say, really.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 16:36pm


And I still maintain that "Dookie" is Green Day's only album worth listening to, although Nimrod (sans "The Time of Your Life") is alright.

Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 16:43pm


"Yes. My dad prefers them to the Pistols actually."
-Sam

I fall into this category as well. The Pistols were a great, groundbreaking punk band, who I enjoy listening to, but I always found PiL's music to be more interesting and progressive.

The firs two records in particular are outstanding.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 17:12pm


The Green Day albums we own are Nimrod and Warning.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 06:40am


Sam- "Brittany doesn't have to like the Sex Pistols if she doesn't want to."

Thank You!!!!!!

GFW, I'm not impressed with PiL, I think they suck, along with The Sex Pistols. My loyalty will remain with Green Day, I think they're amazing and much more interesting than The Sex Pistols will ever be, yes they may have set the trend for punk-rock but I think that Green Day's version of punk-rock is a lot more interesting, and you can actually understand what Billie Joe is singing.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 13:16pm


Not surprising, I wouldn't expect anyone who thinks that Green Day is the be-all and end-all to enjoy PiL.

Also, there is NOTHING about Green Day that is more interesting than the Pistols or PiL. Absolutely nothing. Their music may be more melodic and YOU may find it to be more listenable, but there is JUST PLAIN NOTHING interesting about Green Day. Everything they have done has been done BETTER and EARLIER by other artists.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 13:53pm


Chalkie, I hope you're joking. Green Day is far more interesting than the stupid Pistols. The Sex Pistols are a waste of time, their music sucks and so does their personalities. Green Day would get a bigger crowd than them anyday, I'll bet you on that. The Sex Pistols and PiL blow. When Green Day gets interviewed, they turn it into a scene. (in a good way) Meaning, they have great and fun personalities and they make other people want to be around them, unlike the Pistols who are so stuck up about themselves, it's not even funny. I'm STILL not changing my hatred for The Sex Pistols, like I said before, my loyalty is to Green Day. I think the Sex Pistols should learn how to keep their mouth shut about everybody else. Since when have they done a concert? And if they did, I sure as hell didn't hear about it, I don't think anybody else would've either because they've been dead for soo long.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:08pm


And, it's not only me that finds Green Day much more interesting and listenable.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:10pm


Brittany, which PiL records have you listened to to come to your opinion?

A few days ago you barely knew who they were.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:27pm


No, I know who they are, it just took me a minute to remember them.

Albums- Plastic Box
Flower of Romance
Second Edition
That What is Not
Happy?
This Is What you Want
Paris (Live)

That's all I know from them.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:37pm


You've really listened to all of those?

You missed their first and best record, "Public Image".

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:43pm


No way, Second Edition (or Metal Box) is better.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:45pm


I've found that most people agree with you on Second Edition/Metal Box. I've just always liked Public Image a bit better.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:51pm


"Green Day is far more interesting than the stupid Pistols."

Explain please.

"The Sex Pistols are a waste of time, their music sucks and so does their personalities."

I personally couldn't give a shit about their personalities, but their music certainly doesn't suck. Even today it sounds fresher than anything Green Day has ever put out.

"Green Day would get a bigger crowd than them anyday, I'll bet you on that."

In what universe? Any time a band like the Pistols reunites its an event. For Green Day, "any day" is just another fecking Green Day concert *YAWN*

"The Sex Pistols and PiL blow."

More intelligent discourse.

"When Green Day gets interviewed, they turn it into a scene. (in a good way) Meaning, they have great and fun personalities and they make other people want to be around them, unlike the Pistols who are so stuck up about themselves, it's not even funny."

This really has a lot to do with the quality/innovation/influence/historical importance of each group's music.

"I'm STILL not changing my hatred for The Sex Pistols, like I said before, my loyalty is to Green Day."

That's great.

"I think the Sex Pistols should learn how to keep their mouth shut about everybody else. Since when have they done a concert?"

Three years ago I think

"And if they did, I sure as hell didn't hear about it, I don't think anybody else would've either because they've been dead for soo long."

Except that everybody else isn't necessarily an ignorant twit like you are Brittany.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:56pm


"This really has a lot to do with the quality/innovation/influence/historical importance of each group's music."

P.S. this was sarcasm

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:59pm


I've found that most people agree with you on Second Edition/Metal Box. I've just always liked Public Image a bit better.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 18:51pm
----------------------------------------------------

Personally I'd rank PI as their second best, but obviously it's different strokes for different folks.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 19:02pm


I think my preference for PI is more of a nostalgia/time and place kind of thing.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 19:05pm


Chalkie, just because I may not like or give a shit about The Sex Pistols does not make me a twit. You guys think they are so great when I've listened to them time and time again and I can't find one good reason to even like them. Good, I'm glad you like them, but just because I don't doesn't mean I'm any less of person than you are. I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone else on this board. And actually, Green Day's music is much more fresher than The Sex Pistols, at least in my opinion. I don't feel the need to waste my time listening to The Sex Pistols, I've listened to them before and I was not impressed.

Let me quote you Chalkie:

"Any time a band like The Sex Pistols reunite, it's an event."

Yawn, no not really. How old are they now? If they ever did reunite, Johnny would sound like an old hag choking on a hair ball, wait, isn't that how he always sings? Give me a break, that would be far from a event. You tell me when those scumbags reunite, I'd come, only to watch them choke.

There, I hope I made myself clear now.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.2.10 @ 20:24pm


Chalkie-

"This really has a lot to do with the quality/innovation/influence/historical importance of each group's music."

Nobody cares. Cool, I'm glad you don't like Green Day, nobody needs someone as arrogant as you to be a fan anyway, and your're calling me an ignorant twit? Ha! I don't know why all you people on here think that you can talk down to everyone because they disagree with you, get over it and get a life, I have one so why don't you? You obvioulsy don't because all you do is waste your time on here just looking for someone to pick on, over not liking The Sex Pistols. For the last time, I've listened to them and I can't stand them to save my life, sorry, accept the fact that not everybody on here looks at them in the same way you do, it just doesn't work that way. We have different taste in music and personalities, and I think Green Day is far more interesting and fresh than The Sex Pistols will ever be, but again, it's MY opinion.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 07:49am


"Nobody cares." - Brittany

Nobody, except the people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee. Maybe you didn't realise it, but this whole site is about them, the decisions they make, the ones they shouldn't make and the ones they'll probably make. They base it on, to paraphrase Chalkie, "the quality / innovation / influence / historical importance of each group's music". This whole forum is not about if you like or dislike a particular band or type of music, it's if you can objectively look at that band and the impact that band had on music history.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 10:19am


So "historical importance" must mean record sales then, since Bon Jovi was just nominated and they lack quality, innovation and influence? Sorry, I think there's more to the equation than just that, like who you're friends with.

Posted by classicrocker on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 10:32am


Actually The_Claw, I did know that, I'm just backing my descision up.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 13:42pm


So "historical importance" must mean record sales then, since Bon Jovi was just nominated and they lack quality, innovation and influence? Sorry, I think there's more to the equation than just that, like who you're friends with.

Posted by classicrocker on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 10:32am
----------------------------------------------------

I was speaking purely on idealistic terms. Bon Jovi's nomination is a bit of a puzzlement, although I doubt they will be elected.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 14:54pm


"Chalkie, just because I may not like or give a shit about The Sex Pistols does not make me a twit."

You're right, but just about everything else you've said has.

"You guys think they are so great when I've listened to them time and time again and I can't find one good reason to even like them."

...and the sky is blue...

"Good, I'm glad you like them, but just because I don't doesn't mean I'm any less of person than you are."

I never said that you were less of a person than me, although I think you've provided sufficient proof with your posts.

"I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone else on this board."

Actually, it's customary to back up statements on internet discussion forums with explanations.

"And actually, Green Day's music is much more fresher than The Sex Pistols, at least in my opinion."

I disagree, but you ARE entitled to your own opinion.

"I don't feel the need to waste my time listening to The Sex Pistols"

Obviously not because apparently you've made the choice to waste most of your time by listening to Green Day.

"I've listened to them before and I was not impressed."

Very well.

"Let me quote you Chalkie:

'Any time a band like The Sex Pistols reunite, it's an event.'

Yawn, no not really. How old are they now?"

Because their age really matters.

"If they ever did reunite, Johnny would sound like an old hag choking on a hair ball, wait, isn't that how he always sings?"

As opposed to Billie Joe Armstrongs constipated groaning?

"Give me a break, that would be far from a event. You tell me when those scumbags reunite, I'd come, only to watch them choke."

I'm sure that they think highly of you too.

"There, I hope I made myself clear now."

Actually Brittany, you've been clear from the start.

"Cool, I'm glad you don't like Green Day, nobody needs someone as arrogant as you to be a fan anyway,"

Actually, I'm not sure that I've ever said that I don't like Green Day. In fact I own two of their albums. I merely think they are unworthy of the HOF as they lack any of the credentials.

"and your're calling me an ignorant twit?"

Bingo.

"Ha! I don't know why all you people on here think that you can talk down to everyone because they disagree with you,"

I don't talk down to you because I disagree with you, I talk down to you because you've given me no reason to respect you or your opinions.

"get over it and get a life, I have one so why don't you? You obvioulsy don't because all you do is waste your time on here"

Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black

"just looking for someone to pick on"

I didn't have to look, you made yourself quite conspicuous.

"over not liking The Sex Pistols."

I don't know that I've ever "picked on" you for this specific reason.

"For the last time, I've listened to them and I can't stand them to save my life"

I wasn't aware of that.

"sorry, accept the fact that not everybody on here looks at them in the same way you do, it just doesn't work that way."

Maybe they don't, but they probably accept the FACT (which you haven't) that the Pistols (and PiL for that matter) were incredibly crucial towards the development of popular music as we know it and that Green Day could probably never hope to be as such, no matter what.

"We have different taste in music and personalities,"

Again, personalities have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 15:18pm


Fine, you win, It's not about me noticing that The Sex Pistols aren't great, I'm sure they are but they're not my cup of tea that's for sure.

"Actually, I'm not sure that I've ever said that I don't like Green Day. In fact I own two of their albums. I merely think they are unworthy of the HOF as they lack any of the credentials."

I have to say you are very wrong about them not being worthy enough here. They've proved themselves time and time again, they definately have what it takes and what the Hall is looking for as far as worthiness goes. (Trust me, they've come a long way.)

"I'm sure that they think highly of you too."

What part of I don't give a shit don't you understand? I couldn't care less what they'd think of me.

"As opposed to Billie Joe Armstrongs constipated groaning?"

I'll agree with you on this one, Billie Joe Armstrong may get a little over-the-top at his concerts but hey, they sure as hell know how to put on a great show.

"Obviously not because apparently you've made the choice to waste most of your time by listening to Green Day."

Listening to Green Day results in wasteing my time? Green Day's music has helped me get through so much in my past years, I don't even know where I'd be without them. Green Day's music actually relates to a lot of people and a lot of people have Green Day close to their hearts because of their music. Listening to Green Day is like therapy, they are far from a waste of time.

"...and the sky is blue..."

I'm guessing you already knew that right?

My point is that I'm entitled to like whatever I want, whether it's a band that you completely dread or not. I really don't care what type of evidence you may have to try to get me to acknowledged The Sex Pistols' success, I...Don't...Care, end of story. They are not my type of music, at all. I've really made an effort to just try to listen to them, I will admit though that I do enjoy Anarchy In The Uk off of The Bollocks, and I attempted to listen to PiL, but yet again, I just couldn't. Green Day's music, to me, is much more vibrant and real and I'd still perfer them over The Sex Pistols, anyday. (I'm sure some people would agree with me on this too.) Although, I do like The Ramones and The Clash if that makes you feel any better Chalkie.



Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 17:15pm


Wow!!! Was looking at a nudie site and all of a sudden got redirected here :-(( Thought I might as well chime in. All those that like to polish the knob and cup the berries say "I". Be honest.

Posted by Simon on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 17:37pm


"Although, I do like The Ramones and The Clash if that makes you feel any better Chalkie"

At least we can agree on that.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 17:43pm


I'm not trying to start any heated arguements here, (I've probably got into at least one with everyone on here.) I'm just stating my opinion.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 18:05pm


Simon- "Wow!!! Was looking at a nudie site and all of a sudden got redirected here :-(( Thought I might as well chime in. All those that like to polish the knob and cup the berries say "I". Be honest."

Yeah, I'm sure this isn't what you were looking for, and you should leave this site because we're not talking about nudity here.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 18:07pm


Interesting stuff here. I know I was joking around a couple days ago about Green Day, but I didn't realize everybody was getting all hot & bothered about this stuff (except for Simon, who appears to have shown up hot & bothered already).

One thing nobody is mentioning is the time & place that Green Day & the Pistols are inhabiting. London circa 76-79? 80? was a far different place from the Gilman St. club Green Day first showed up in circa 89-90.

Why do I say this? Because I & I do have a relationship to location & timing as well. Allow me to introduce a 3rd party to this, & a gent who has a case that may surpass both Lydon & Armstrong - Iggy Pop. I've often seen Iggy describe his music as a reaction to the times he was in. This being 1969, he created a punk sound that was far diff. than either the Pistols or Green Day, & Detroit 69 was far diff. than Calif. 89/90. It was also far diff. than London 76 as well.

I & I doesn't always have to share a similarity from place to place, & time to time. Innovation & Influence should be held to an ever changing standard.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 18:43pm


The battle of Punk Rock continues I see.

Green Day - a very nice rock and roll band who have recorded some excellent music and helped revive some of the spirit that was attached to Punk. But I certainly wouldn't call them a Punk band.

As for the HoF - I have no idea if they will be inducted. IMO, they certainly are not a first ballot HoFer. And you cannot guarantee anything with this voting block. Just look at the bands that still are not in. So maybe they get in, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by Dameon666 on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 20:16pm


Dameon666-

"Green Day - a very nice rock and roll band who have recorded some excellent music and helped revive some of the spirit that was attached to Punk. But I certainly wouldn't call them a Punk band."

I'll agree with you on this about them reviving punk but I'll have to disagree that about you calling them not a punk band. If they revived punk, then how are they not a punk band?

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 09:29am


Sorry I made a mistake...

"I'll have to disagree that about"

I meant to say "I'll have to disagree with you about that."

Gosh, I hate when that happens.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 09:33am


"I was speaking purely on idealistic terms. Bon Jovi's nomination is a bit of a puzzlement, although I doubt they will be elected."

I think they will. 120 million records sold and still selling out stadiums=mass ticket sales if they show up and perform at the ceremony. Plus Jon's friends with Wenner. I don't think they should get in either, but I'm not surprised that they're nominated.

"Give me a break, that would be far from a event. You tell me when those scumbags reunite, I'd come, only to watch them choke."

They reunited several years ago for a tour. It was well-received and they headlined several major festivals (not quite on par with how well-received The Stooges were when they reunited, but still.) I believe the Bloc Party frontman once asked Lydon about whether Public Image was going to reunite, a couple of years ago. So yes people would show up if it happened.

"If they revived punk, then how are they not a punk band?"

I'll try not to speak for Dameon on this one, but I think he might be sharing the same opinion many people have: That they haven't been a punk band for awhile (since Nimrod.)

You know, one thing I think hasn't been touched upon yet: The students becoming the teachers. In this case, Green Day starting out as kind of just one of many punk bands, but eventually bearing the standard and becoming one of the bands that younger bands looked up to (like what the Pistols, The Clash and The Ramones were to Green Day.) Like Nirvana picking up the gauntlet that earlier alternative acts threw down, Metallica building upon what their metal ancestors did, etc. I believe it was one of the guys from Kraftwerk who came up with this idea, saying that the students had become the teachers, and by students he was referring to noted Kraftwerk disciples Depeche Mode and New Order. He was absolutely correct in that regard, and though Green Day didn't reinvent the wheel like the above bands did I think the same thing might apply here. Thoughts? Coffee? Jack Daniels? Cake?

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 17:23pm


Sam-

"You know, one thing I think hasn't been touched upon yet: The students becoming the teachers. In this case, Green Day starting out as kind of just one of many punk bands, but eventually bearing the standard and becoming one of the bands that younger bands looked up to (like what the Pistols, The Clash and The Ramones were to Green Day.) Like Nirvana picking up the gauntlet that earlier alternative acts threw down, Metallica building upon what their metal ancestors did, etc. I believe it was one of the guys from Kraftwerk who came up with this idea, saying that the students had become the teachers, and by students he was referring to noted Kraftwerk disciples Depeche Mode and New Order. He was absolutely correct in that regard, and though Green Day didn't reinvent the wheel like the above bands did I think the same thing might apply here. Thoughts? Coffee? Jack Daniels? Cake?"

I agree, and yes I would love some coffee and cake Sam. (lol)


Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 18:40pm


Here are some bands that were influenced by Green Day:


Runner Runner, Last Target, Zebrahead, 4Taste, Hidden in Plain View, Steve Rushton, Sara Nunes, Houston Calls, Koopa, Hairy Drain Babies, No One Goes Home, Gitogito Hustler, Room Full of Walters, Big Rig, The Wylde Bunch, The Keep Aways, Panda, Enemigos de la Klase, Matt Willis, Brave Saint Saturn, Blacktop Mourning, Stolen Thought, McFly, The Loved Ones, All One Surface, Dexter Danger, The Stryder, CPM 22, Tsunami Bomb, All Time Low, Neverstore, Whole Wheat Bread, Cauterize, In Stereo, Los Lagartos, Lustra, Caffeine, The Leftovers, Cleveland Bound Death Sentence, Crash Romeo, The Ergs, Scenes from a Movie, The Berlin Project, Ging Nang Boyz, Stole Your Woman, The Audition, Finley, Bueno, Skye Sweetnam, Junction 18, Muslims, Ashlee Simpson, Inspection 12, Longfellow, Jet Lag Gemini, The Naked Apes, BB Brunes, Distorted Penguins, New Years Day, Ramona Midgett, Fall Out Boy, Fat Prop, Bye Sami, The Necessary, The Movielife, Autopilot Off, Dryspell, The Matches, Teenage Bottlerocket, Steriogram, Pignoise, Amber Pacific, Allister, AFI,and Avril Lavigne (Even though she may suck.)

Just thought I'd throw that one out there.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 18:46pm


"ContactMusic.com reports that Ted Nugent was rejected by Green Day frontman Billie Joe Armstrong when the rocker offered to collaborate with the ‘American Idiot’ trio. “Their social ignorance, their historical vacuity and their knee-jerk condemnation of American things and the Bush administration is nothing short of embarrassing,” Nugent fumed. But that doesn’t mean he’s written off the punk rockers. “I bought all their CDs… I would be more than happy to talk to them,” Nugent said."

Any comments?

So, before this happened, Nugent went on and on about how great Green Day is saying he would love to collaborate with them, Nugent gets turned down by Billie Joe Armstrong and completely freaks out over it. And it really shows his character when he says, "I have all of their albums by the way..."

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 18:59pm


That's typical Nugent. The man can play guitar, no question, but he's a boring, redneck blowhard with nothing of value to offer in any way beyond that.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 19:24pm


Couldn't have said it any better myself

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 20:17pm


Exactly...^

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 04:48am


First - Ted's got his right to talk. You may not care for what the man has to say, but free speech is free speech. What's even more impt. is that free will is free will, so you can take anything you hear w/a grain of salt, so to speak.
--------------------------------------------------
You know, one thing I think hasn't been touched upon yet: The students becoming the teachers. In this case, Green Day starting out as kind of just one of many punk bands, but eventually bearing the standard and becoming one of the bands that younger bands looked up to (like what the Pistols, The Clash and The Ramones were to Green Day.) Like Nirvana picking up the gauntlet that earlier alternative acts threw down, Metallica building upon what their metal ancestors did, etc. I believe it was one of the guys from Kraftwerk who came up with this idea, saying that the students had become the teachers, and by students he was referring to noted Kraftwerk disciples Depeche Mode and New Order. He was absolutely correct in that regard, and though Green Day didn't reinvent the wheel like the above bands did I think the same thing might apply here. Thoughts? Coffee? Jack Daniels? Cake?

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 17:23pm


--------------------------------------------------
For a long while I've uttered those same ideas, only in a diff. form. Rock & Roll is the one place where the young steer the ship, irregardless of what older acts/fans might say. You can revive older forms, but the young will always put a new spin on it, even if it's not always readily apparent. In that regards, Green Day will one day be pushed aside, much as the Pistols have been. It's all in the name of forward thinking rock.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 05:35am


Cheesecrop-

"In that regards, Green Day will one day be pushed aside, much as the Pistols have been. It's all in the name of forward thinking rock."

I realize that, but I hope they don't get pushed aside, it would be boring if Green Day left the music business. They're, by far, my favorite band and it would truely suck if Green Day wasn't mentioned anymore. I think we need Green Day to stick around, they are one of the few good bands out today, I don't want to see them leave the music industry.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 07:49am


Back to the Nugent conversation, I just think he's two-faced. He said, "I bought all their CDs… I would be more than happy to talk to them,” After that, Green Day turns him down, and then he says, "Their social ignorance, their historical vacuity and their knee-jerk condemnation of American things and the Bush administration is nothing short of embarrassing,” What a two-faced, ignorant asshole that guy is.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 07:57am


I know I pasted that before, but I just wanted to point this guy out for everybody to see with their own two eyes. I find it quite funny that Green Day turned him down, I would too. I wouldn't want some redneck singing over my songs either, Green Day obviously rejected him for a reason.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 08:01am


"I agree, and yes I would love some coffee and cake Sam. (lol)"

Hmmm... I think I'm going to go to Tesco to get some Gin & Tonic actually.

"'Their social ignorance, their historical vacuity and their knee-jerk condemnation of American things and the Bush administration is nothing short of embarrassing,' Nugent fumed."

Yawn... Ted, you endorsed Sarah Palin, who is even disliked by some right-wingers. Can you see my house in Northamptonshire from that Texas ranch of yours, buddy? (If you catch what I'm referring to I'll be very impressed.) On a side-note: Thank God Christine O'Donnell lost. If wacking off is a sin, then I guess we shouldn't produce anymore kids, right?

"But that doesn’t mean he’s written off the punk rockers. 'I bought all their CDs… I would be more than happy to talk to them,' Nugent said."

Henry Rollins has said about the Nuge that he loves his music but disagrees with his viewpoints. I think the same concept applies here. I agree with him (Ted) on gun control, but aside from that I'm kind of in the same boat as Rollins. Fortunately he's mostly refrained from politics in his music, instead focusing on just putting out some kick-ass tunes and killer guitar playing. One can blame the left-right divide (I fall into the middle ground) for this collaboration not happening.

"In that regards, Green Day will one day be pushed aside, much as the Pistols have been. It's all in the name of forward thinking rock."

Right. One only needs to look at the "Immortals" page to see that. 1998, that VH1 list, voted on by 600 musicians: The Sex Pistols come in at #46, Green Day don't appear on it. That's probably because Green Day was still a young band and people were still assessing them. 2004: Rolling Stone does that "Immortals" list. On that, the Pistols hang on, but drop down to #58. Understandable... they're still significant to the young punks, but no reason why they should be significant to everyone else. Billie Joe Armstrong writing the piece for it begins to show a changing of the guard, though quite a few people still weren't sure what to make of Green Day, which is probably why they didn't make it. Now, the new list: Green Day just makes it, while the Pistols don't make it. That's probably because it's the same thing as 2004: Significant to the young punks, but few of the other young people pick up on them. If they do a list again in 2020, Green Day could be off it (or in 2030.) You never know what the new generation is going to think, as evidenced by some of the outrageous omissions on the new list.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 09:33am


I agree Sam, The only acts I could imagine staying on such a list for along time would be people like Elvis, beatles etc...

Posted by GFW on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 10:45am


GFW-

"The only acts I could imagine staying on such a list for along time would be people like Elvis, beatles etc..."

Not necessarily, you don't know what the future holds. Green Day could end up going down in history, I once heard on an interview that Green Day could end up like The Beatles and be rock icons. It definately is a possibility, Green Day does have what it takes to go down in history like that, especially with the fame and music technique that they've created, anything's possible. I can see them sticking around for a while, possibly another 10-25 years.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 13:53pm


Sam-

"Can you see my house in Northamptonshire from that Texas ranch of yours, buddy? (If you catch what I'm referring to I'll be very impressed.)"

I get it. Didn't Sarah say something about how she can see Alaska or something like that from her kitchen window? I believe she said something close to it, I'm not sure it was Alaska though.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 13:56pm


Close, she was in Alaska and said she could see Russia.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 13:58pm


I'm quite amused at the political discussion on here. I personally think that the Nuge is a total idiot politically, but he might have a case for being inducted.

"Thank God Christine O'Donnell lost. If wacking off is a sin, then I guess we shouldn't produce anymore kids, right?"

One of the few bright spots of Tuesday IMO, my governor who produced that anti-immigration law and won and my congressman lost, so it wasn't a good night for me.

But anyway, I do think that GD will be remembered, (and should be in the hall) but nowhere near as much as the Sex Pistols.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 14:28pm


"of the few bright spots of Tuesday IMO, my governor who produced that anti-immigration law and won and my congressman lost, so it wasn't a good night for me."
-Jim

Are you in Arizona, Jim?

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 15:01pm


Why yes I am. the people can be kinda crazy, but its still a great place to live.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 15:17pm


I live in north Phoenix. I agree, it's a beautiful state, but the government and voters here have been really embarrassing lately.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 15:30pm


Ah I live in Scottsdale. You do get alot of crap from people for living here lol. Guess they don't understand how great this place is sometimes (when you're not sweating your ass off.)

On a side note, I just met Megadeth Bassist Dave Ellefson 5 minutes ago. Nice Guy.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 15:50pm


Why are you talking about where you live? (LOL)

Well, I live in Michigan, it pretty much sucks here. We're heading into winter now and it just started snowing an hour ago, great.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 17:21pm


You're from Michigan and you're listening to Green Day?!? Why not check out the sounds of Motown, the MC5 and the Stooges?

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 17:25pm


Hey Brittany, whereabouts in the Mitten are you? I'm in Lansing.

To answer Chalkie's question though, Motown got crammed down our throats on Oldies station. The one that used to be here in Lansing would play roughly 7 Motown songs an hour. Literally. I counted. And never the rare stuff that'd expand your horizons. The same trite Supremes songs and overly commericial stuff from the good artists. Had they played "A Place In The Sun" or "That's The Way Love Is" or "Psychedelic Shack" or "I Promise To Wait My Love", it wouldn't have been so bad.

Protopunk isn't quite my thing, though I respect the Stooges and MC5 quite highly. But MI's given a lot of great artists: Bob Seger, Bill Haley, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Tommy James And The Shondells (ok, a transplant, but he grew up in Niles)... plenty of good stuff.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 17:46pm


Why are you talking about where you live? (LOL)
-Brittany

Because the Green Day thread has turned into the local pub around here.

I always thought it would be cool if this site had a general discussion thread where people could chat and get to know each other outside of our musical opinions. I guess this thread has become that for now.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 18:25pm


Chalkie-

"You're from Michigan and you're listening to Green Day?!? Why not check out the sounds of Motown, the MC5 and the Stooges?"

I actually do like motown, and a little bit of The Stooges, but I was born a Green Day fan.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 19:29pm


"Hey Brittany, whereabouts in the Mitten are you? I'm in Lansing."

I'm in the Roseville area.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 19:29pm


DarinRG-

"I always thought it would be cool if this site had a general discussion thread where people could chat and get to know each other outside of our musical opinions. I guess this thread has become that for now."

Me too.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 19:30pm


On a side note, I just met Megadeth Bassist Dave Ellefson 5 minutes ago. Nice Guy.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 15:50pm


Cool. Where did you run into him at?

I've run across Alice Cooper a few times here in town. Really nice, funny guy. If you can get him started on a topic that interests him he pretty much turns into his Wayne's World character.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 20:07pm


I've seen the lead singer of Grand Funk Railroad before, forgot his name, blah.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 20:13pm


"Cool. Where did you run into him at?"

At the library by our school, my friend was tutoring his son cause he wasnt very good at math . I told him his bass lines are cool =P (Speaking as someone who plays bass)


"I've run across Alice Cooper a few times here in town. Really nice, funny guy. If you can get him started on a topic that interests him he pretty much turns into his Wayne's World character."

I almost turned into Mike Myers around Dave Ellefson, shocked that a man like him would show up at our school haha. I do want to meet Cooper though, he seems so chill.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 22:39pm


Where are you ging to school at?

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 23:08pm


Desert Mountain High, Junior Year. So that places me as one of the younger ones here lol.

Posted by Jim on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 23:42pm


Wow, I had you pegged more as mid-20s.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 23:53pm


Lol, its possible to be young and knowledgeable at the same time.

Surprisingly.

Posted by Jim on Saturday, 11.6.10 @ 00:04am


"On a side note, I just met Megadeth Bassist Dave Ellefson 5 minutes ago. Nice Guy."

He seems like he would be a cool guy to meet, yes. My friend's cousin is a roadie for Dave Matthews, so that's cool.

Northamptonshire's only remotely famous musical export is Bauhaus, and they're mostly a cult band (and I've heard some people in the post-punk community made fun of them because of their geographical background; perhaps that's why none of them even live in the country now.) Apparently an indie band called New Cassettes has been gaining momentum, but that's about it.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 11.6.10 @ 06:54am


I've seen a lot of bands in person, but I haven't necessarily met them in person, yet. I've seen Grand Funk, Kid Rock, and I think I've seen Iggy Pop once before, I swear it was him. I've also contacted Billie Joe Armstrong, we've talked on the internet before, he's given me some good advice too, he's a really down-to-earth guy.

Posted by Brittany on Saturday, 11.6.10 @ 14:32pm


I just love Green Day. They take me away from all the two-faced people in my life. I don't know why I just posted this, but I had to get it out. I guess this'll be everyone's new blogging site now, right?

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.8.10 @ 18:40pm


"I always thought they put a nice pink and green ribbon around it, and turn it into POP PUNK."

That was an insult, I can tell. As Elastic Man said, there's nothing wrong with pop music as long as it's either intelligent or well-performed. I'll concede there's better punk bands out there, whether it be first-wave or hardcore (I don't count post-punk because that's a different matter entirely) but you probably lost a people when you said that. Pop-Punk was created by The Ramones and The Buzzcocks (the former's quite rightly in the Hall and the latter should be.)

Posted by Sam on Friday, 11.12.10 @ 12:15pm


Where is everybody?? This use to be filled with comments, where did everybody go? lol

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 14:40pm


I bet you they'll be in

Posted by fksndlkns on Monday, 11.22.10 @ 15:57pm


I know they'll be in, give me a good reason why they wouldn't, if you can find a good reason.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 11.23.10 @ 10:00am


ok i love the people that are defending my favorite band, but some of the are retarded...People who are bringing up record sales, American Idiot has sold 6 million in the U.S. alone....aka 6X platinum....you're demoting it to 3X...jesus

Posted by sigh on Tuesday, 11.30.10 @ 01:04am


#91 on VH1's 100 Greatest Artists of all time.

Posted by Scott on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 14:41pm


Nobody cares what VH1 thinks, they have bad judgement. Then i looked on a site online from Rolling Stone magazine, and Green Day was number 31 out of 100.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 12.16.10 @ 08:16am


In case anyone was wondering, I'm only a sophomore in high school, I'm 16. So maybe that's why some of you thought I was a joke. Hey at least I have good taste in music

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 12.16.10 @ 08:22am


Jesus of Suburbia by Green Day is one of the best songs ever written.

That song gave them a spot into the hall.

Posted by Alex_B on Monday, 12.20.10 @ 10:03am


Green Day is and always will be considered punk rock, end of story.

Billie Joe, Mike, and Al were the original bandmates since 1987. Al decided he was going to leave the band, big mistake due to the amount of success Green Day achieved.

Al later got replaced by a German drummer known as Tre Cool. (Frank Edwin Wright III)

The band has been around since 1987 to the present day and have been rumored to be sell outs?

Another false rumor. Green Day are not sell outs.

Nirvana would be more like sell outs if you ask me.

I think that being around for 23 years is a great achievement and therefore, they will be inducted in 2014 my friends, bottom line.

Cry about it because I don't want to hear your complaints, they mean nothing to me.

Posted by tailor646 on Thursday, 12.23.10 @ 15:58pm


"Then i looked on a site online from Rolling Stone magazine, and Green Day was number 31 out of 100."

Do you mean their 100 greatest albums of the 2000's?

"Nirvana would be more like sell outs if you ask me."

I'd like to hear more about that idea, because I'm not really sure where you're going with it.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 12.29.10 @ 12:02pm


Sam
"Do you mean their 100 greatest albums of the 2000's?'

No actually, I ran across something like that a few years back. It said something about Green Day being compared to The Beatles due to the amount of their success and innovative songs.

"I'd like to hear more about that idea, because I'm not really sure where you're going with it."

Another one, I was watching some kind of documentary on Nirvana and surprisingly, it recalled Nirvana as being sell-outs after the death of Kurt Cobain.

You don't need to question me about what I've heard, take it up with the person that I got the information from.



Posted by tailor646 on Monday, 01.3.11 @ 09:30am


No, I was reading a magazine from Rolling Stone and they hailed Green Day for being number 31 out of 100 artists/bands that are the most successful and popular punk rock bands out of them all. Aside from The Sex Pistols and The Ramones, I do think Green Day has achieved higher levels of success than those two other bands.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 01.5.11 @ 09:37am


Green Day in the hall? Yes.
It doesn't matter whether they are punk or not. Punk is a lifestyle and they have lived with their own guidelines ever since they started Sweet Children. The were the punk band that said f*ck it, and took the chances to be different and write an accoustic ballad, or write a punk-rock opera. I see Green Day being in the hall because they know how to be old school. Behind maybe Pearl Jam, they brought 90's music to a whole new level and they are one of the biggest bands of our time for the past 20 years and they're still playing some great live shows.

Posted by Kai on Wednesday, 01.5.11 @ 23:37pm


Finally, somebody is acknowledging them for their success and not about being punk rock or not. Green Day is a great band and I'm pleased to see that somebody else agrees with me on this.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 01.6.11 @ 07:45am


K green day is an okay band, they need to make their music more rock because its honestly not that good. They need to leave out the punk and just try some different music choices like, Linkin Park, Nirvana, and so on :) Im not a Green Day hater I do love them <3

Posted by Brigitte on Friday, 01.7.11 @ 10:04am


Green Day isnt good. harcore punk like thm sux11!!! the Gren Day guy cant sing anywhere as good as justin bieber!!!!11111 the Green day guy shouldnt be in th hall of fame becase he sounds like hes taking as crap when he sings..

Posted by justins girl on Friday, 01.7.11 @ 18:43pm


The Green Day guy's name is Billie Joe Armstrong.

Like I said earlier, Green Day is punk rock, not hardcore.

Billie Joe Armstrong's voice is far better than being suicidal while listening to a 4 year girl sing on YouTube. (That would be Justin Bieber.)

I'm pretty sure Billie Joe's vocal's are just fine, he doesn't sound like he's taking a crap.
He took professional singing classes ever since he was 5 years old and actually released his first album, at the age of 5.

You don't have any knowledge of Green Day, therefore, your opinions are useless to everyone on here.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 01.7.11 @ 21:00pm


"it recalled Nirvana as being sell-outs after the death of Kurt Cobain."

I'll look for it, though I don't see how that makes sense. Perhaps they were referring to Grohl's work with the Foo Fighters.

"No, I was reading a magazine from Rolling Stone and they hailed Green Day for being number 31 out of 100 artists/bands that are the most successful and popular punk rock bands out of them all."

I believe they'd be the most succesful, actually. Even, say, The Clash didn't have the fanbase that Green Day does.

"They need to leave out the punk and just try some different music choices like, Linkin Park"

Linkin Park? Okay band, but I'd suggest you look up Faith No More, who are cited as one of the key influences for nu-metal. Listen to the albums The Real Thing and Angel Dust, then get back to me. It would be a huge injustice if LP were inducted and their more talented ancestors were not.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 01.9.11 @ 09:49am


Theres no doubt in my mind that Green day will withstand the test of time. All their music is Original and clever, even though the chords seem thrown together it works and people love it. (although, i do think its getting annoying seeing American Idiot merch sold at teeny-bopper stores)

Posted by Anna on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 04:36am


I agree with you about how they sell American Idiot merchandise at little kid stores, Green Day actually isn't a little kid band, to me they are a great punk rock band with a lot of potential. They shouldn't be having their merchandise sold at stores where young children would go, that makes Green Day look bad. Although, I did walk into Hot Topic a while ago and Green Day shirts, wristbands, posters, etc were being sold there, too bad they were all sold out when I walked in.

I always have the worst luck.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 06:53am


you know what's funny, i walked into a hot topic and justin bieber wristbands were being sold there. i was in non-belief, i mean hot topic is for great bands right? then why the hell would justin bieber have his stuff being sold there??? this world is going to end pretty fast.

Posted by Jenna on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 06:56am


"i mean hot topic is for great bands right?"--Jenna

No. Hot Topic is for whatever is popular with tween and teenage girls, sometimes appealing to guys too.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 12:08pm


Given the other crap that's sold at little kid stores, I don't mind Green Day 'American Idiot' junk being sold.

Better to get the philosophy of American Idiot than Bratz dolls or various Kardashaiani.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 13:09pm


I think Green Day 'American Idiot' merchandise is sold because it's popular, and it's not just sold at Hot Topic, it's sold pretty much anywhere.

Except stores like CVS, Kmart, etc. (Well, maybe at Kmart.)

The point is, it doesn't really matter where the stuff is being sold, as long as it's being sold, right?

Jeez.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 01.21.11 @ 21:01pm


Theres no doubt in my mind that Green day will withstand the test of time. All their music is Original and clever, even though the chords seem thrown together it works and people love it. (although, i do think its getting annoying seeing American Idiot merch sold at teeny-bopper stores)

Posted by Anna on Thursday, 01.20.11 @ 04:36am

That is really annoying, people reposting other people's comments. Write your own comment or piss off.

"Better to get the philosophy of American Idiot than Bratz dolls or various Kardashaiani." - Paul

True. The fact that people like the Kardashians can become famous just for being famous symbolizes everything that's wrong with the Western world these days.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 01.25.11 @ 11:09am


Sam, I gotta love you for that comment.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 02.1.11 @ 19:52pm


You're quite welcome.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 02.11.11 @ 12:04pm


Sam, I do believe the 'love' from Brittany was over a comment I made that you quoted.

You're quite welcome ;-)

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 02.11.11 @ 13:10pm


Green Day should not be in. They WERE punk but now are just commercial. And to make a point about popularity, every Beastie Boys album went platinum or beyond and they didn't get in.

Posted by Bob on Friday, 02.18.11 @ 15:59pm


pero CLARO ke SI
Green Day tiene ke estar. ellos influenciaron la segunda oleada punk junto a blink 182 y despues de los ramones y the sex pistols no hay ninguna banda de punk rock mejor y ke haya influenciado mas ke green day ademas al solo escuchar canciones como basket case, american idiot, boulevard of broken dreams, minority, know your enemy y holiday esta claro ke son unos verdaderos punk rockers
GREEN DAY ROCKSSSS!!!!!!!

Posted by carlos on Sunday, 02.20.11 @ 21:18pm


Regardless of how much you hate Green Day, you still gotta' admit that they made a huge success in the modern music scene, and are still active bringing out many Billboard Hits. Green Day and blink-182 are two bands that created many following bands. "Dookie" and "American Idiot", especially the latter is an impressive album.

Posted by Dadada on Friday, 02.25.11 @ 19:34pm


I believe that Green Day is definetely RAR Hall of Fame worthy. They have changed the music industry in ways I never thought they would, influencing so many bands you could barely count them. Kerplunk is definetely my favorite album by them, and I think that's the same for a lot of people. (They like pre-american idiot more.) I can't stand how people "hate" Green Day just because their friends hate them too. It just seems like it's popular to hate them. Why is that? Did "jumping on the anti-Bush bandwagon" really make them evil people who should get out of music? No, because if that was true, American Idiot wouldn't be their 2nd best-selling album to date. Although the older music seems more catchy to me, I can't imagine 39 year old guys singing about masturbation and ex-girlfriends arguments anymore. They definetely have evolved into more mentally mature men, and I easily compare them to U2. That being said, my conclusion is the following: Green Day have changed their music views and the views of the music industry, influenced countless bands, and changed peoples lives. (including my own, even if it's a small change.) In my opinion, they shouldn't even be voted on to become inducted. They all-around deserve it in many ways. The end. :)

Posted by Tyler on Tuesday, 03.1.11 @ 20:46pm


i completely agree with you on that, tyler. everyone's always complaining about them losing their "punkness" to their music, but i think the change they've made really shaped a different way people look at them. im glad somebody actually looks at Green Day the same way i do, a successful punk-rock band.

Posted by brittany on Wednesday, 03.2.11 @ 20:57pm


I wouldnt even Sh*t on a greenday poster they dont even deserve the privelage

Posted by Drake on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 22:35pm


Now that's a productive comment Drake... not. Tell us how you really feel.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.14.11 @ 12:32pm


Ian, 1 word 4 u, LOSER. Green Day is AMAZING, and the best live performance you can ask for.

Posted by Karen on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 20:02pm


hehe said: "they have so many influences, and are only second to pearl jam when it comes to having so many influences."

William said: "I assume you mean followers whom they influenced, and if so, no. Even Pearl Jam's huge following isn't as big as, say, The Beatles."

I think what hehe was trying to refer to was GD's AllMusic article, in which it was written that among post-Nirvana alternative bands only Pearl Jam were more influential. Not too much of a stretch when you think about it.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 12:01pm


Wow, it's been a while. Anyway, Green Day's getting in no matter what. They're at an 82% so far, so bite me.

Posted by Brittany on Wednesday, 06.15.11 @ 22:36pm


Green Day is absolutely getting in. They have released numerous albums which critics have fallen in love with. While I am not a fan, I can admit that their influence is definitely HUGE.

Posted by James on Wednesday, 06.22.11 @ 14:34pm


Green Day, Like Thor is the god of Thunder
Green Day Are The Gods & Kings Of Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one in The Past Present or Future will Never Compare to them!!!!!!!!! NEVER !!!!!! OHAILE THE GODS GREEN DAY

Posted by Anthony Romero on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 05:06am


Bilie Joe Armstrong has The Hammer Guitar Of The Gods and Tre Cool The Drums and 2 Drumms stricks of the gods and mike Dirint The Bass Guitar of the gods Jason white is to!!!!!!! !!!! ohail The GODS Green Day!!!!!!!

Posted by Anthony Romero on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 05:08am


Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong,mike Dirnt,Tre'Cool & Jason White Are the Gods and kings Of All Types of music Punk/Rock allternetive hard metal heavy metal and regualr ,metal and hip hop and all the TYPES that exsics!!!!!! F**K Justin Bieber!!!!!!!!! he Justs KILLS TONS OF MUSIC Green Day will kick his ass!!!!!!! girls singing gay boy ahhh he can go to hell!!

Posted by Anthony Romero on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 05:13am


Green Day Gods & Kings Of Music!. Billie Joe Armstrong Mike Dirint Tre'Cool And Jason White!. Gods & Kings of Instruments & Music!.:D

Posted by Anthony Romero on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 05:16am


^ They haven't done Metal OR Hip-Hop, so you're wrong. Don't misinterpret that, as I do support them, I just think you're giving them too much credit.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 11:20am


I think Green Day deserves to be inducted. They have been a band that has touched so many lives around the world. I don't care about those who say they've "sold out" or not "punk" anymore. They're great musicians and those criticizing on that basis need to grow up and realize that world is not so black and white anymore, it wasn't it ever honestly. They honestly deserve to be inducted and I hope they are. Good luck to the guys and I hope to be there during the induction ceremony.

Posted by Veronica on Tuesday, 07.5.11 @ 07:47am


You are not hardcore punk if you listen to Green Day. If you want to be hardcore punk you listen to Suicidal Tendencies, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols. If you averaged all of Green Day's songs together I highly doubt most of them would come out to be punk.

Posted by Bob on Monday, 07.25.11 @ 12:57pm


I don't think anyone said that they're hardcore, Bob. The Clash and The Sex Pistols aren't hardcore punk either. Try Bad Brains, Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion...

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 07.27.11 @ 14:41pm


gracias a Dios por intiresny

Posted by Beerinditle on Wednesday, 08.10.11 @ 17:21pm


yes for sure. there songs have always fit well with the mainstream. and there new songs are longer and more complex. so i see no reason as to why not

Posted by Alex on Thursday, 09.1.11 @ 21:25pm


Influence: green Day is the leading influence on nearly all of today's punk bands. 25
Innovation: buzzcocks did it first.
Commercial Sucess: Massive, green Day is the biggest selling punk band ever. 30
Critical Respect: American idiot is considered one of the classics of the 20th century and green day one of the best rock bands of 1992 - now. 30

(20 bonus for Dookie and American Idiot)

105

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 14:15pm


well worth the read. I found it very informative as I have been researching a lot lately on practical matters such as you talk about…

Posted by appliance repair on Monday, 11.7.11 @ 22:50pm


This is a great article. Thanks for bothering to describe all this out for all of us. It really is a great guide!

Posted by buy anabolic steroids on Saturday, 11.19.11 @ 05:03am


Too bad it was Cobain who off'd himself and not that kid from The Other Sister movie...Billie Joe Armstrong.

Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 11.23.11 @ 11:20am


Too bad it was Cobain who off'd himself and not that kid from The Other Sister movie...Billie Joe Armstrong.

Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 11.23.11 @ 11:20am


Offing yourself can be a good career move for a musical artist. It's the cult of the dead rock star. You stay forever young in the imagination and no one sees you age. No one sees you decline. No one experiences the less inspired work that comes as artists move beyond their artistic prime. No one gets disillusioned. Instead you're sanctified and placed on a pedestal. Saint Morrison. Saint Joplin. Saint Hendrix. Saint Curtis. Saint Winehouse. And Saint Cobain.

Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 11.23.11 @ 12:43pm


Thank you for making the sincere attempt to speak about this on www.futurerocklegends.com . I feel very strong about it and would like to read more. If it's OK, as you achieve extra extensive wisdom, may you mind including extra articles similar to this one with additional info? It will be extraordinarily useful and helpful for me and my friends.

Posted by appliances repair on Sunday, 12.11.11 @ 08:55am


It's absolutely stupid to think that green day wouldn't get in. If you only listen to guitars in your music, you won't like green day, but music is much more than that.

These guys are this generation's leading performers and lyricists. I think the bass player and drummer are extremely underrated, and it is stupid to not call them punk. They redefined punk, and they don't care if old-fashioned punk rockers don't like it.

If people would actually listen to all of their albums they would know that they're all different. Green Day gets generalized by radio. They make great rock albums, not just albums with a few radio hits per album.

When it comes down to it, Green Day is really the best band left from the biggest breakout artists in the the 90's which were Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Green Day.

Also, complaining about the simplicity of their political views, is just dumb. You can't just all of a sudden change your music to be extremely intelligent and all nice. They went back to alienating people because that is what they do best. But the positive and intelligent messages are there if you listen closely. Green Day's music is timeless, and no one can change that, not matter what they say or do. There's no doubt in my mind that they have earned and will receive a place in rock n roll immortality.

Posted by Jacob on Tuesday, 12.13.11 @ 17:52pm


"biggest breakout artists in the 90's: Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Green Day"


You're missing a certain band with the word head in it...

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 12.13.11 @ 17:55pm


GFW: "You're missing a certain band with the word head in it..."

Well, they would certainly be up there. I would say that at this point in time, Radiohead is probably the better band. But again they're independent, which can have its limitations, although there is definitely nothing wrong with that. Also, in terms of mass influence and legacy, green day are probably closer to be considered legends. Just because of the amount of time they have been around.

Posted by Jacob on Saturday, 12.17.11 @ 18:45pm


yes, definetely.

Posted by frank sinatra on Sunday, 12.18.11 @ 04:13am


Ok, so my opinion is green day has the music and talent to make it into the hall Of fame but this is how I feel. I feel that green day has lost alot of there luster with older people and proffesionals due to the fact that they have gotten away from there 90's punk roots and become more appealing to the 10 year old kid who knows absolutely nothing about rock n roll. Will they make it in? More likely then not but I am extremly disappointed with how they turned out today. For example bands like Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam have stuck to there roots and are still making great music today that has an appeal to everyone. Green Day needs to go back and start making songs similar to Dookie's material. That is all.

Posted by Mike on Monday, 12.19.11 @ 11:35am


Green Day will get in because they are to Punk Rock what Metallica is to hard rock.

They're the mega famous watered down radio-friendly version of a genre that everyone listens to before they find the less popular good music within the same genre.

They didn't revolutionize rock music, aren't particularly brilliant songwriters, and don't play particularly difficult music. What they did do is become mega famous and cause a bunch of people to discover a type of rock music they otherwise wouldn't.

Posted by Adam on Friday, 02.3.12 @ 23:45pm


A little overrated in my opinion, but still absolutely essential to the last twenty years of music. Zero chance they won't get in, and it'll be a great show. They have some irresistibly catchy songs for sure.

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Wednesday, 02.15.12 @ 18:41pm


okay, I own ALL of their albums and I'm into punk rock and I mean real punk rock, not blink 182 or Avril watsername and I think they deserve to get a spot in the hall. You might not consider what they write punk rock but it's undoubtedly rock. And you can trash their music all you want but you couldn't get as many hit singles as they have. They actually got into our history with Dookie and American Idiot after all the won MANY grammys and even diamond so yes, without a second though.

Posted by xXxGloriaxXx on Tuesday, 03.20.12 @ 22:28pm


I just love this band don't you?They are always in tune and know their musical parts at the live shows!It sounds better than their Recorded music ,,,,,!
I hope they get in

Posted by Happy on Tuesday, 03.20.12 @ 22:45pm


Formed in 1987. Been a band for 24 years.
Brung punk to the mainstream.

Will they get in?

Yes.

Posted by Tony on Thursday, 03.29.12 @ 00:00am


Yup. It's that same Brittany that posted immature comments two years ago. I'm proud to say that I've grown over the years and was actually appauled by what I was saying. Anyways, I figured if you wanted to, you could add me on Facebook.

My name is under Brittany Lambert " Loveless ". I don't know, I was thinking maybe some of you who thought I was a drag could check out my stuff. Thanks.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 03.29.12 @ 00:12am


Oh, I almost forgot, also if you wanted to check me out on YouTube, my account name is under " britbaby777 ". You could just type that in on the search bar. I know some of you probably couldn't care less, but it's just so you could see what I'm all about and maybe change your personal opinions on me.

I don't bite.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 03.29.12 @ 00:17am


Glad to see you back, Brittany. I don't do Facebook, but I will talk music whenever you post something here.

Don't worry about the posts, all of us have posted things we'd rather have deleted now.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 03.30.12 @ 09:47am


If Green Day doesn't make it in I will be so upset! They are so worthy of this spot it's not even funny! VOTE GREEN DAY!

Posted by Karly (Biggest Green Day fan) on Tuesday, 04.3.12 @ 19:11pm


Green Day

Tre Cool
Mike Dirnt
Jason White
Al Sobrante
John Kiftmeyer
Billie Joe Armstrong

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.3.12 @ 21:10pm


Green Day is punk? Uh .... no. Unless punk is vacuous, trite, monotonous and superficial. I thought it was supposed to be the opposite. To be honest, I didn't even know they were supposed the BE punk, they are so far from it. There's more to creating an edge than just singing flat.

Posted by Jeff on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 01:42am


"Unless punk is vacuous, trite, monotonous and superficial"

Even though I do love punk, you realize that statement is not necessarily untrue? (Just ask Philip).

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 04:22am


"Green Day will get in because they are to Punk Rock what Metallica is to hard rock."

Not a valid comparison...

Posted by Sam on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 07:43am


I'm not a Green Day fan. But media created, arbitrary labels like "punk" do so much to screw up our understanding of music. The first wave bands that were associated with the punk scene didn't call themselves punk; they hated the label and even the whole idea of being labeled. It was really the third generation bands that ran around saying "We are punk". Get 50 people in a room and you would get 50 different definitions. And what tends to be left over is a third-rate caricature: anger, disaffection, frustration without any of the Bohemian artistic leanings that initially characterized the scene. And it always seems to degenerate into insisting that something supposedly isn't whatever the hell it is.
My own suggestion: ignore the labels and listen to the music.

Posted by astrodog on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 13:17pm


Please, just no. There's SO MANY more deserving bands. Green Day's sound isn't for me, but that's not why they shouldn't be there. THEY weren't "punk." They were about as punk as scene kids. Their music wasn't AT ALL innovative. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame shouldn't just be for bands who were famous 25 years ago. It should be for bands who brought something new to the table. Bands that are ROCK. Exemplify ROCK. Green Day is a chimera of major pop influences with some punk sound.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.11.12 @ 21:21pm


""Green Day will get in because they are to Punk Rock what Metallica is to hard rock."

Not a valid comparison..."

Sure it is. There are thousands of less-popular bands in both genres, neither invented their styles of music, and neither are too talented at songwriting, neither play very difficult music, or have ever written anything revolutionary; at least when compared with their peers. I'm not saying that Green Day is anywhere near Metallica in technical playing abilities. I'm saying that when compared with the rest of their genre, the only thing that really stands out is selling a shit ton of records and making a ton of money.

If that doesn't work for you here's a better example. The Sex Pistols and Ramones didn't invent punk music either, but both of them are in the hall of fame. Both sound exactly like other bands from their area that didn't get as famous. They are in for the same reason that Green Day will get in; for mainstreaming punk music the first time around; but neither band invented it. Rock and roll purists had been playing "punk rock" since the 1960's. It just wasn't called "punk" until the late 1970's.

Nirvana and Pearl Jam will also both get in, they didn't invent Seattle "grunge" music either. Pearl Jam has a decent guitarist, but he's nothing new, just recycled Hendrix riffs. Nirvana was about as talented as Green Day... But they'll get credit for inventing grunge all the same.

Just like Metallica got credit for inventing metal...

Posted by Adam on Wednesday, 04.11.12 @ 22:45pm


Green Day??? REALLY???

And the following bands shouldn't be inducted BEFORE THEM!?!?!?

Motley Crue, KISS, STYX, Deep Purple, Chicago, Journey, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Bon Jovi, Heart, Def Leppard, Cheap Trick, Yes, John Coltrane, Stevie Ray Vaugn, Steve Miller Band, Motorhead, ELP, The Cars, ELO, Deep Purple, etc...

Then again, you probably apporved of Earth Wind and Fire, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Run-DMC... WOW Those are REAL Rockers! Good thing they have been inducted...

Posted by Robert Reece on Thursday, 04.12.12 @ 10:43am


Motley Crue, KISS, STYX, Deep Purple, Chicago, Journey, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Bon Jovi, Heart, Def Leppard, Cheap Trick, Yes, John Coltrane, Stevie Ray Vaugn, Steve Miller Band, Motorhead, ELP, The Cars, ELO, Deep Purple, etc...

KISS, Deep Purple, Journey, Judas Priest, SRV, Motorhead and The Cars all deserve to get in. I don't know the details of the others well enough to know their accomplishments. Probably a good deal deserve to get in. However, that is not the topic of the thread.

Posted by Adam on Thursday, 04.12.12 @ 15:38pm


"I'm not saying that Green Day is anywhere near Metallica in technical playing abilities. I'm saying that when compared with the rest of their genre, the only thing that really stands out is selling a shit ton of records and making a ton of money."

I'm going to try and be brief here, so that the thread doesn't go off topic.

Metallica did invent their style. No, not inventing metal; I'm not sure where anyone said that. Taking it to a new level of popularity, yes, but not inventing it, like how Green Day revived and popularized pop-punk. What I was talking about was actually what they played. Green Day didn't invent pop-punk; Metallica did invent thrash-metal. Queen and Motorhead had both laid down the blueprint; the Californian groups like Metallica took it to a new level. Metallica were the ones who took the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal and crossed it with the fury and speed of punk, creating a new style. Others were using this formula as well and doing different things with it, but Metallica got there first, that's the point I was trying to make. (I love bands like Motorhead, Megadeth, Iron Maiden and Pantera as well.)

The Green Day-Ramones-Sex Pistols analogy is good though; not necessarily doing anything unquestionably original. The Ramones invented pop-punk, taking the punk style and making it more hooky, stripped-down and anthemic. The Sex Pistols weren't necessarily doing anything different and they were beaten to being the first punk band by The Damned, but they popularized the new London punk scene and their sound was fresh and exciting, and they inspired a lot of young people to pick up guitars and start bands. Green Day did the same when they broke out; they weren't doing anything different but the sound was different compared to everything else that was going on. That's why they're credited with popularizing a punk revival. I'm not a fan but I'll give credit where credit's due.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 04.15.12 @ 06:45am


The Damned was the first punk band only if you define punk in very narrow, cartoonish terms. And the Ramones absolutely did not invent pop-punk; they were one of a few bands with the same sensibility.

I'd say that you had a group of bands in certain areas (NYC, London, Cleveland, LA) reacting to the mainstream musical scene of the 70s. The music tended to be more immediate and tended at the onset to emphasized inspiration/emotion over virtuosity. Whether you called it street rock, new wave or punk, the bands shared certain musical tendencies. Later on, people began confusing the basic music structure for the emotion it allowed. Punk became associated less with musical tendencies and more with attitude/visual style. At that point in popular consciousness, it became equated with safety pins, confrontation and overly simplistic songs. Yet the simplicity of the music all these bands initially produced was never the end but the means, and every one of them abandoned it as soon as they could. The irony is that what became known as "punk" is really an off shoot of a broader musical phenomenon, whether it's called new wave, new music or whatever. Yet the later development swallows up this entire phase in music, which becomes suspended in popular imagination in its very formative stages. The ceative/artistic tendencies that characterized the actual punk scene are jettisoned from popular memory and are now supposedly a "perversion" of three chord purity. Of course, that reduces a very creative musical moment to a complete laughingstock.

Posted by astrodog on Sunday, 04.15.12 @ 09:29am


" Glad to see you back, Brittany. I don't do Facebook, but I will talk music whenever you post something here.

Don't worry about the posts, all of us have posted things we'd rather have deleted now. "

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 03.30.12 @ 09:47am


Why thank you Paul. It's good to be back. After re-reading my posts from 2010 to 2011, I was literally embarrassed by what I was saying. I even think Green Day would've laughed at the way I came off at everybody. I acted like a little, arrogant brat who thought I knew it all, when really, I didn't know shit. I've definetely matured over the past two years, thank God. Hahaha

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 00:15am


Well, you all know that I'm a Green Day fan/supporter myself and want them in the hall as soon as possible, but as far as considering them a valid 'punk' band, I wouldn't even go that route. Sure, their songs are powerful and catchy and may involve a few words about politics, but that doesn't prove to us that they're a punk band. It seems to me, after a little research and observing their old songs to their new songs, that they are becoming a manufactured 'pop', modern-day 'punk' band as the years go by. They compromised with the record producers, which 'real' punk bands wouldn't normally do, and changed their image and style of music just to sell more records. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. As far as calling them 'sell-outs', I'll bail on that. I wouldn't consider them a sell-out band at all but as far as I'm concerned, they've bascially gave their fans the middle finger and did what the record producers/companies told them to do. I think that's being disrespectful to the fans, especially the loyal ones such as myself. If their new album is anything like 'American Idiot' or '21st CB', I will no longer be a fan or a supporter for Green Day.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 00:33am


Not to mention that I have every single one of their albums and songs on my iPod. So, for me to just give up on Green Day like that, that is saying a lot. If Green Day were such a 'punk' band, they would have never listened to what a record executive had to say. They would have stuck to their roots. Like how Billie Joe always says, " We're punk and it's not just the way we play music. It's a lifestyle...blah, blah, blah ". If that's so, then why in hell did you so nonchalantly change not only your image, but your music? That doesn't sound so 'punk' to me. I think that's disrespectful for what they did just to bump up their record sales. It's like they gave up on their fans, the most loyal ones. Green Day better go back to their roots because if they don't, they'll lose another loyal fan.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 01:02am


" ...like how Green Day revived and popularized pop-punk. "

I agree with that, but I think they did more than just 'popularize' the genre. I know it may sound like I'm completely dissing one of my favorite bands, yet I may be, but here me out.

Green Day, to me atleast, watered-down what 'real' punk music and what the punk attitude used to be and what it is now, thanks to them. They showed us a more 'radio friendly' version of punk. Yet, their early EP's and records had that punk edge and rythym to it, all Billie sang about was break-ups and basically anything that came to his mind. Meaning, he didn't really give much thought on how he wrote songs until 'American Idiot' came out. The only way they'll get respect is if they stop forcing the pop-ish politics on us and play music the way they played it back when they started out. It's actually starting to disturb me a little to think that Green Day is becoming what I thought, and what they said, they would never become. It's a shame.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 01:15am


New Brittany is awesome. Welcome back if it's for real.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 02:36am


Who is this imposter brittany using logic and reason? what have you done with the original!

Joking, welcome back.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 06:59am


Personally I like bands that "sell out" much more than bands that don't. If you are not accused of selling out (even the Ramones were), you are not doing your job. On the other hand, if you are just doing bad music (e.g., Neil Young in his bluegrass years), that's another story.

Posted by astrodog on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 07:37am


Btittany, I did admire your passion for Green Day back in those days :-)

How do you feel about 'The Offspring'?

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 07:37am


I think 'American Idiot' is the best album they've ever put out. 'Dookie' being 2nd.

The last one was not near as good.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 07:41am


I hate it when people say a band sold out when all they did was get successful. you should be happy your fav band is getting recognition instead of acting like a pissy hipster.

now if they sell out a-la the black eyed peas (changing their direction just to get hits) then you deserve all the criticism you get.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 07:56am


^I agree, GFW.

Astro, that was a typing mistake and I'm well aware of the actual punk lineage. I meant to say The Damned were the first British punk band.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 04.16.12 @ 15:14pm


New Brittany is awesome. Welcome back if it's for real.

Posted by DarinRG

It's for real! Haha

Who is this imposter brittany using logic and reason? what have you done with the original!

Joking, welcome back.

Posted by GFW

Hahaha, thank you dude. I guess I've become less of an arrogant idiot within the past two years.

Btittany, I did admire your passion for Green Day back in those days :-)

How do you feel about 'The Offspring'?

Posted by Paul in KY

Don't get me wrong, I'll always respect them and what they've done but I just don't find their modern-day politics to be as ammusing anymore. It's kind of getting old, you know? I did like The Offspring, until I heard "Pretty Fly for a White Guy". Haha

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 04.17.12 @ 00:26am


Brittany, as for 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy', if the shoe doesn't fit, you're not supposed to wear it ;-)

So, as long as you are not some wanna be loser like they sing about, what's the problem with the song? I think it is a pretty good tune.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 04.17.12 @ 07:36am


Brittany, as for 'Pretty Fly for a White Guy', if the shoe doesn't fit, you're not supposed to wear it ;-)

So, as long as you are not some wanna be loser like they sing about, what's the problem with the song? I think it is a pretty good tune.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 04.17.12 @ 07:36am



Eh, it's alright but if they're going to call themselves a punk band and have their fans acknowledge them as being punk,(I'm not quite sure if they're a punk band, but I'm taking a guess), they shouldn't write tunes that sound more of a pop-dance, rap hit rather than making something that fits their genre. Much like what Green Day did. I kind of lost respect for them after 'American Idiot' even though it was a good album. Again, they did it to raise their status and to bring more fans into the picture. It's just not like them to do that. That's why I think that they were presuaded by record companies to release an album like American Idiot and 21st.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 04.17.12 @ 22:09pm


Agree, Brittany, that they are alot more 'poppy' than Green Day, or have morphed into a more 'pop' band over the years.

I think I like that sound more than you. Conversely, you must be a 'Black Flag' fan, cause there ain't no 'pop' with those boys.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.18.12 @ 07:43am


Yes, I do like Black Flag a lot. (I almost typed in "Black Fag". Haha)

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 01:47am


I thought you'd like them. I will have to check my iPod out to see which songs of theirs that I really like. I think I have about 3 or so on it.

Bet they were great to see live.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 07:56am


Being associated with a meaningless label like "punk" has a major downside. You do a good album and people accuse you of supposedly not being "punk". You experiment with different styles or genres and you "sold-out". You add any complexity to your music and you've committed some type of musical heresy. It's being sentenced to creative stagnation, all stereotypical anger and and hackneyed musical output.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 13:49pm


agreed, it goes against the original experimentation and daring of the genre's origins.

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 14:20pm


Brittany, checked out my iPod & these 3 Black Flag songs are on it:

Nervous Breakdown
Jealous Again
Louie, Louie

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 07:31am


It's not 1988 anymore. Punk has evolved, changed, and split into many many subgenres.

Now if some people would attempt to evolve as well, and challenge their musical comfort zone, there would be a lot less useless arguing about "pure" and "selling out" and other points of contention that have been argued into the ground.

Music and musicians are allowed to evolve and change and grow. Relax.

Posted by Karen on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 02:35am


Thanks, Paul! I will do that. Black Flag is hardcore, and I'm all about anything is hardcore and played raw. They're beginning to become one of my favorites.

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 04.27.12 @ 00:12am


All about anything that IS hardcore. *

(Typo)

Posted by Brittany on Friday, 04.27.12 @ 00:13am


no, i think green day should not be inducktedd into the rockkk and rolllll hall of fame becuz they are sellouts and their old now.

Posted by ashleebitchez on Friday, 04.27.12 @ 00:15am


Okay first of all, if you actually listened to their album Dookie and then listened to 21st Century Breakdown, then you'd know they don't sound the same. They have changed, but it isnt drastic. They have no reason to do that.

Posted by Nicki on Wednesday, 05.2.12 @ 21:33pm


Yes! Green Day definitely deserves to be in. Those who say they are not talented musicians have NOT done their research and you should die, I think. They revived punk and improved on it, those who say they aren't punk have no idea what punk is, punk doesn't have to be the same. The reason Green Day is popular is because THEIR punk is better, haters can go suck some cock :)

Posted by Yeh on Monday, 05.7.12 @ 05:36am


Yeah they deserve it! every one of thier albums went platinum or more. they have won over 70 something awards. Dookie and American idiot both amazing albums pushed thier career and popularity even further. they are still one of the biggest bands in the world. yeah they influenced alot of bands, like sum 41 and blink, my chemical romance but those bands cant hold thier popularity like green day has done for past 26 years. they are making a trilogy album for end of this year. they have done it all they are like the beatles of this decade.

Posted by Joseph nohelty on Wednesday, 05.9.12 @ 23:36pm


Yeah they deserve it! every one of thier albums went platinum or more. they have won over 70 something awards. Dookie and American idiot both amazing albums pushed thier career and popularity even further. they are still one of the biggest bands in the world. yeah they influenced alot of bands, like sum 41 and blink, my chemical romance but those bands cant hold thier popularity like green day has done for past 26 years. they are making a trilogy album for end of this year. they have done it all they are like the beatles of this decade.

Posted by Joseph nohelty on Wednesday, 05.9.12 @ 23:36pm


Well, to be honest I'm more into heavy metal and black metal etc. now you would expect from someone like me to bash green day. I'm not into their music, that's a fact. But I do believe that these guys have some character. Yes they sued their indie label, butI dont think larry livermor (the founder-owner of Lookout! Records) has a problem with that; in every interview my daughter has shown me, he always says the kindest words about them and I've heard that they are still very good friends. It took them some time until they signed to major label maybe not ten years like black flag but for te exact same reason; they wanted to make sure that their music will not be cencored or controled. Plus, I've heard from many bands - GnR for example- that they are the most laid back, humble and down to earth people they have ever met. If they were sell-outs they would have been stuck up divas and whatever. As for their songs, as i said im not into their music, but i have to admit that their aongs are pretty honest and they werent just thrown in there and call it an album; mike dirnt and very cool (am i saying right? If not sorry) have said that especially the lead singer is driving himself crazy while writting songs; they work hard for it. And no matter what you think about their music, at least you gotta hve some decensy to aknoledge that hard work is praised and awarded. And anyway isn't punk about breaking the rules? Isn't being a part of the mainstream the bet way to change it? To express your opinion and make people feel okay with their own opinions?
I've done some research about this band before posting this coment... Unlike most of the people here.

Posted by Danny on Sunday, 05.20.12 @ 11:00am


Danny, I don't need to research on Green Day to get the facts right. Larry Livermore signed them in 1989 and yes, they are still good friends. I don't see why they wouldn't be. Livermore sticks up for Green Day all the time. Billie was actually hospitalized while recording for their album 21st Century Breakdown. He went days without sleep, from what I'm told, and was dehydrated. The guy works his ass off writing songs, he's one the hardest working leaders I've ever seen. I don't care what anybody says, Green Day's getting in and that's a fact. They're too much of a hard-working band to not be put into the Hall.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 22:10pm


I've been a fan since I was 7 years-old, I'm 17 almost 18 now. 10 years? That's dedication. I know I've trashed them on a few things here, but I did because they've disappointed me many times, but I know they'll get back on their feet and make that same great music they made back in the day.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 22:14pm


Briittany
they are a great band ! I just love the music they do!

Posted by happy on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 22:20pm


For those of you how do not play an instrument, I look up many green day songs, just to have something to play, I'm aware their guitar chords aren't incredible, but, how many bands can make a nine minute song, with four chords.

Posted by Austin on Sunday, 05.27.12 @ 21:22pm


Britany
I was talking about people here who have never even heard of green day and start bashing them. You, most of all people are one of the few true fans that i "saw" here; you love the band but not blinldy. Yes you have been dissapointed but hey, the way you talk about them shows respect for their decisions they have made during their career; now that's a die hard fan :) i mean it!
The "i made a research" part i said it to emphasise the fact that if you dont like something or a band or a person at least have some valued arguments; it wasnt directed to you. It was directed to all the people who play the same tape over and over and over again like "what a bunch of sellouts", "tey didn earn their wings" etc etc. But i respect their opinion.
And i have to say im glad there are some people like you who may have had some dissapointments, but still believe in a band. Bravo! :) my english suck im greek sorry
Btw, kerplunk is an awesome album, i just bought it XD

Posted by Danny on Tuesday, 06.5.12 @ 09:12am


Thanks, Danny! I know that wasn't directed towards me, don't worry about it. In all honesty, yes, I am a die-hard fan but all of a sudden...I don't know what the hell it was but I woke up this morning hating Green Day. I don't know what got into me. I just think about them now and feel a strong sense of disappointment and disgust for Billie Joe's politics now. I still love their music, always will, but I'm just getting fed up with their, mainly Billie Joe's, rants about society and how they're trying to prove how "punk" they are all of the time. I know I'm going back and forth between love and hate with them, but I'm kind of over it by now. I'm starting to listen to the "real" punk bands and think to myself, "The hell with Green Day." I know you guys won't believe me at all, but I've interacted with Billie Joe through Facebook for about a year and yes, he's a good guy but I felt like he was a little arrogant and cocky. I won't even waste my time trying to meet that guy anymore. Screw him.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 06.11.12 @ 00:04am


We used to talk a lot, almost everyday. You all won't believe me but, it's the truth. I wouldn't lie about something like that. He can be cool but he can also be, and mostly be, a total dickhead with no love or respect for his fans. Not all of the time, but what I witnessed with him wasn't what I expected at all. I just deleted my Facebooks today actually, haha. Facebook is a complete waste of damn time and effort.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 06.11.12 @ 00:09am


Sorry guys. I'm not trying to spam this place here, but I'd thought I'd share my overwhelming disgust for Billie Joe now that I have an idea on what this guy is all about. Punk? No. Not at all. Unless he thinks being punk means compromising with the record labels and acting like a "I'm too good to talk to you..." kind of fella. He's not worth my time anymore. Billie Joe, keep your politics and narcissim to yourself. (I hope he never reads this...)

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 06.11.12 @ 00:12am


Brittany, I don't know if you've ever heard of her, but I think you should check out Juliana Hatfield. She used to be with a major label and then they let her go because she refused to compromise her music just to sell records. She's now on Pledge Music where donations straight from her fans pay for her albums. Listen to some of her stuff on You Tube like "My Sister" and "Waves."

Posted by classicrocker on Monday, 06.11.12 @ 00:26am


Eh, I think I've heard of her. It's not like I'm trying to stick up for every and any artist that sticks to their own morals but I wouldn't mind it if people gave them more attention. I know I also sound like I'm playing both sides of the coin with Green Day, as far as loving and hating them goes, but I always be a fan of their music...I'm just not really flattered anymore by BJ's politics. He's a great songwriter and performer and I think he's one of the most hardest working frontman in the world but, there's a place and time for that stuff, and right now, people just want some good music from them.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 06.14.12 @ 22:54pm


Forget everything bad I ever said about Green Day. I didn't mean to trash them like that. They're one of my many inspirations and I came off differently than what I was trying to do. I criticized them a little bit, but that doesn't take away from my love for them. Also, I never meant to rip into Billie Joe like that either. I just wanted to clean it up just in case you guys think I'm two-faced. They're all great guys and great musicians. (I feel like such an asshole.)

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 06.19.12 @ 07:48am


amos, Tori

h t t p : / / www . youtube.com/watch?v=hPA7f56lL0Q

Posted by Mikhail on Saturday, 07.7.12 @ 04:01am


Green Day has got to be in. Their lyrics are inspiring.

Posted by Joel on Saturday, 09.1.12 @ 14:34pm


Green day will UNDOUBTEDLY be inducted! A fan since 1039 SOSH, they have been a constant part of my life. I have loved watching them grow as artists and I am soo happy for all tneir continued success!

Posted by shescreamsinsilence44 on Sunday, 09.9.12 @ 15:27pm


Green Day should be inducted for sure. Let me guess, they sold out. Well maybe they just got tired of making amazing music and not having a way to get it to everyone. You are not a seel out if you sign with a major label, you just want to get you music out and Lookout could not achieve that for them.
When the music scene in the 90's sucked, they brought it from the brink. They have made great catchy (and songs being catchy doesn't mean they sold out either) important albums. AI is amazing it's true, but Dookie and Warning are inspired. In my opinion (and I'm sure I'll catch a lot of flack for this) but if the Ramones the two chord wonders can make it in when they didn't achieve anything close to Green Day's success then Green Day is a shoe in. They have made awesome music for years and aren't showing any signs of slowing down.
5 Grammy's (Best Rock Album twice), over 65 million records sold (25 million in the US). Hell yes. I hope they play until they're 150.
One last note, has anyone ever been to a Green Day concert? They are rock GODS!

Posted by newfoundchad on Thursday, 12.20.12 @ 10:54am


When the music scene in the 90's sucked, they brought it from the brink.

Posted by newfoundchad on Thursday, 12.20.12 @ 10:54am
--------------------------------------------------
Which part of the decade was this, may I ask?

It sure as heck wasn't 1994, one of the wildest yrs. in all of rock's history (for further proof of this, please take a look at the "Best Music" section on this site, & click on 1994, please).

If you are speaking about 1997, they did release the "Good Riddance" song, but that had no effect (regrettably) on the teeny-pop explosion to come.

I agree w/you that they're a worthy act for the Hall, & I do believe they will get in. I'm a little curious as to what part of the 90's you're speaking of, though... :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 12.21.12 @ 05:40am


"When the music scene in the 90's sucked, they brought it from the brink."

Fail.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.21.12 @ 06:34am


YES!! they deserve to be in!!go listening to Dookie instead of only American Idiot! Who cares if they're punk no more? they're still doing very good ROCK music!

Posted by elisabetta on Saturday, 01.19.13 @ 04:37am


The 2012 Guns n Roses sucks,but they're in because they have been great in the past..that's the same thing for Green Day,they were better in the past,but now they're still good..they must be in at least for their punk rock past!! Moreover, a lot of great band who are in the HOF , respect Green Day,like u2,Ramones ecc and say they're punk!

Posted by elisabetta on Saturday, 01.19.13 @ 04:43am


Green day totally deserves to get in the hall of fame they just broke a world record letting three albums out in three months and theyve been playing since 1985 and theyre the most successful punk rock band of all time and they and they should get in the hall of fame this year

Posted by James on Saturday, 01.19.13 @ 20:31pm


Green day deserves so much to be in the Rock'n roll Hall of fame. They're a great band, they've so many fans, they do great music.
Billie Joe is a great singer, Mike is very good at playing, Tré is a perfect drummer. What else?
They are also special persons, I personally admire them a lot.
Yes, they have changed, their music hasn't the punk sound of the first albums, but that's normal! They change while the world too changes.
So, I think it will be amazing if they could join the Rock'n Roll Hall of fame.
That's all.
Rage and love.
I personally am a Green Day's fan since 2008 but I listen also to the old albums like Insomniac, Kerplunk, Dookie, 1,039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours.

Posted by Katy on Sunday, 01.20.13 @ 13:08pm


they'll get in!! they inspired the new punk band like blink 182,sum 41. so they CHANGED music,because they've tried a mix of pop,punkrock and alternative rock,and no one ever did it before.

Posted by paul on Sunday, 01.20.13 @ 15:37pm


Green Day deserves to be in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame, they didn't start the Punk Movement, but they helped change the scene of 90's Alternative Rock for sure, along with RHCP, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc. "Dookie" is a classic album, whether you like it or not, and "American Idiot" really brought the "Anti-Bush" into Modern Music's forefront, I mean, there was Springsteen, R.E.M., The Dixie Chicks talking crap about Bush, but no one had the force that Green Day had with that subject (although I don't really think of "American Idiot" as a political album, but more of a story concept of people during the Bush administration, 21st Century Breakdown is way more political in term's of their albums), but they are one of the few band's keeping Rock N Roll alive and kicking in the mainstream, I mean at the VMA's this past year, Green Day was the ONLY Rock band their, they are all talented musicians, and Billie Joe is one hell of a songwriter!! Don't believe me? Then listen to "Misery", "Jesus Of Suburbia", "Homecoming", "Peacemaker", "American Eulogy", "Dirty Rotten Bastards", "X-Kid", etc. Plus, Green Day is one of the best live band's around, they totally capture the spirit of Rock N Roll that you could easily feel at a Springsteen show or a Ramones show, they live and play in the moment, and are FAR better than most "Rock" bands out their today, so all in all, YES! They should be inducteed, and they probably and easily will be within the next couple years

Posted by Zach Perron on Monday, 01.21.13 @ 22:31pm


Green Day came years too late in the game to have anything whatsoever to do with punk other than being fans and imitators of the genre, but they have produced a respectable and induction worthy body of work.

It would be nice to at least see the Buzzcocks go first, But we're talking about Cleveland, not Revisited/Projected. Getting shit like this right is too much to ask of them.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 01.22.13 @ 02:47am


Green Day is a first-year lock (by lock, read '99% chance, accounting for the Rock Hall's poor judgment'). The questions are who will be the first punk band after Green Day to retroactively get in, and how long will it take? MC5? Buzzcocks? Dead Kennedys? Black Flag? Bad Brains? The Misfits?

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 01.22.13 @ 14:48pm


For true/underground punk rockers, Green Day does not deserve to get in. But people forget one thing about GD.

Green Day never actually considered themselves punk. In fact, since Insomniac in the 90s, they simply "left" punk forever as shown in 86. And since then, they have taken in elements of other genres starting with alternative rock, power pop, folk punk/rock on Warning, and The Who-styled elemnts on American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown.

They're not a pure punk band (just like with The Clash, who also fused other elements into their sound). And people have to understand that GD themselves influenced a ton of bands across a good range of genres in the 90s and 2000s. Weezer and Jimmy Eat World are some of them, and neither are punk rock or pure pop punk (both play mostly alternative).

Finally, GD was seen as a gateway to punk for those in the 90s. Maybe they don't like them that much now, but for them, GD was essential to getting them into punk rock (for me, that band was actually The Offspring).

Some of the other punk bands are mentioned, but the more I think of it, the more I realize that unlike other punk bands already in (specifically Ramones, Sex Pistols, and The Clash), they just don't have enough of an impact on music as a whole. Sure they may have been big on punk, but let's remember, a band like A.C. was influential to grindcore, but they...yeah...their music is often laughable. Green Day will be inducted 2 years from now...and there's not much you can do.

Posted by maplejet on Saturday, 02.16.13 @ 13:00pm


They absolutely deserve it. They helped bring punk back. People complain about simple power chords, but they also have an amazing bassist and a very talented drummer. Not to mention Billie Joe's voice. Lastly, they can't remain static after 20-something years, they had to change sometime!

Posted by Me on Sunday, 02.17.13 @ 17:44pm


So true ME

Posted by Rocket Man on Sunday, 02.17.13 @ 18:29pm


Hell yeah! They have deserved to be in since forever!

Posted by Danny on Thursday, 02.28.13 @ 17:01pm


While I don't care for most of their music, I do have high respect for Green Day for having so many followers and as others have said, they helped re-popularize punk and bring it to the mainstream. I wouldn't be surprised if they were in within two years of their eligibility.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 02.28.13 @ 19:25pm


To those who say all of Green Day's albums sound the same - don't listen to Metallica, Deftones, Disturbed, The Beatles, Weezer, Rush, Tool, Avenged Sevenfold, Mumford and Sons - in fact, don't listen to music at all. They all sound like themselves. Every Tool album sounds like a Tool album, every Rush album sounds like a Rush album, every Metallica album SOUNDS like a Metallica album. If they sounded any different, all of you would be just as annoyed they didn't stick with their original sound.

Long story short? There is no pleasing everybody. Green Day, of all people, realizes this so they don't even try.

Posted by Katie on Wednesday, 03.27.13 @ 13:54pm


"The Beatles"

yeah, Please Please Me and Sgt. Peppers are identical.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 03.27.13 @ 14:10pm


I'm surprised Katie didn't mention AC/DC. I think Angus Young said several years ago, "I hate it when people say we've made 10 albums that all sound the same... we've actually made 11 albums that all sound the same!"

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 03.28.13 @ 09:18am


And recently, Billie Joe made the 'cover of the Rolling Stone'. I'm sure Jann will give them a big push when their time comes around

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 03.29.13 @ 02:54am


Green Day does deserve a spot!
I know ome of you oppose but they're definatly worthy of a spot. Theve influenced counless bands and put a new vibe in music. Even if you hate them consider the real pure meanings the lyrics say. They have worked basically since they were 16 and now they're all around 40. To keep a band together thag long and still make albums and win awards is amazing. They truely do deserve to be in the hall of fame.

Posted by Sidney on Thursday, 04.11.13 @ 17:53pm


Sorry about the grammer I'm on a tablet

Posted by Sidney on Thursday, 04.11.13 @ 18:01pm


Sorry about the grammer I'm on a tablet

Posted by Sidney on Thursday, 04.11.13 @ 18:01pm


The comment I tried to post earlier looked like spam apparently, so I'll try to keep it short
I've like Green Day since I was six, because I heard Boulevard of Broken Dreams (scoff, roll your eyes, I don't give a a shit)
I love all their music, but some of their new music has been a slight disappointment
To the haters: have your opinions. Not everyone can like the same thing. If they did, it'd be really weird and virtually impossible.
I won't tell you to F yourselves because it's rude
Why must we argue heatedly over MUSIC

Posted by Lilly on Tuesday, 06.25.13 @ 17:36pm


I have to be fair here. Granted Greenday (especially their biggest hits) were pretty boring and unoriginal. However, They did open doors to a lot of kids. They did not really kill rock and roll, in fact, they did (in some ways) contribute to its return in the 90s. They didn't break any new ground, but they did get a lot of kids to pick up instruments and just jam. Isn't that what rock and roll is all about?

Posted by Pedro on Thursday, 07.25.13 @ 15:19pm


I believe Green Day's chances at getting in are very good. They've been a and for about 27 years considering the fact that they were out and about in 1987. The only disappointing album(s) they've put out in my opinion was "Warning" and I'd have to also say their recent trilogy, "Uno, Dos, Tre!". Green Day's been an influence on countless other bands and I think they definitely deserve their spot. F*ck, I'd like to be there when it happens. They have my vote.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 15:41pm


And oh-my-f***ing-god. I'm scrolling the comments and reminiscing. The majority of the comments I posted was during my lunch hour in High School. I was 16 at the time. I'm 19 now and oh my lord, I can't believe Sam and GFW are still on here. Nice to see you guys again. How've y'all been?

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 15:49pm


Green Day to me seems like between first and third year pick inductees. Just in my humble opinion anyway.

Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 15:56pm


UPDATE: During that period in my life, I didn't like the Sex Pistols. My opinion on them now has definitely changed.

I can't believe all the shit I spewed in my early adolescent years... I WAS ignorant, but after HS I'd say I've grown up a lot. Reading those comments on me bashing TSP is baffling me now. Oh well. My music interests have changed quite a lot.
By the way, if anybody's interested in hearing my music, go to http://www.youtube.com/user/brittanyloveless

Peace

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 16:01pm


They'll likely go in first ballot. I'm not much of a fan, but they have objectively earned it. Good to see you again, Brittany.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 20:02pm


Oh, sup Brittany.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 08.7.13 @ 07:56am


Good to see Brittany popping in.

Brit, chked out your youtube videos/music. Great work for a youngun like you! Please keep at it. Also saw you in one of your clips. I expected more piercings ;-)

As for Green Day's latest albums. Have come to conclusion that Uno! is best of the 3, Dos! is OK & they should have just taken the 4 or so good tunes off Tre! & put them in Uno!/Dos!.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 08:34am


I agree. I like Brittany's stuff. I had a frenemy thing with her when she was a regular, but I respected her passion and it comes through in her own music.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 09:54am


YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Happy on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 12:59pm


My good friend Steve, who introduced me to so many great new wave, glam rock, post-punk, alternative, and synthpop acts, wrote this regarding Green Day and pop punk in general in his "Best 5/Worst 5 Music Genres" list. I agree with it 100%. You can probably guess which list he ranked pop punk under.

"1.)pop punk-- I affectionately refer to this style of bastardized punk as "poop puke." Sometime around the early '90s--maybe 1992 or 93, we started hearing about one of punk's many "rebirths." Along with most Jello Biafra/Dead Kennedys, Henry Rollins, and overtly political hardcore punk, dog puke is among some of the shittiest, most awful music, ever to grace popular charts. Pop punk was/is primarily concerned with politics (since when does punk become music for uptight, opinionated, senior citizens,) the mall, fashion, and an already dead joke about pot. There is nothing sleazy, dirty, or wretched about Green Day (Green Gay), 182 shits, Ass Nacho 1 (Sum 41, anyone?), The Retardis (Ataris), Some Lie (Sublime--more ska-punk than anything else,) or Mall Cock Fan (Simple Plan.) Real pop punk can be found in bands like the Ramones, Buzzcocks, The Jam, and The Rezillos. The 90's were the beginning of the end for punk, but its demise came into full fruition right around the early to mid 2000's, with the dawn of the "American Idiot." Green Gay became a household name, and their political, Bush-burning (of the former president and their own pubic parts), was rampant. Suddenly, not-so-different teenagers began acting like they had always been hip, guitar-wielding, "rebels." One word--poser (most music today caters to these types of people.) Slick, polished, generic guitar riffs and "looking sexy for Rolling Stone" replaced homegrown obscenity that challenged the system. Pop punk is for your mom, not impressionable young people. Listen to the Buzzcocks' compilation Singles Going Steady to get your first, true dose of pop punk. I wish GG Allin (the last great punk) would rise from the dead, and smear some of his prized feces on Billy Joe and his tanning buddies. Pop punk can go in the garbage!"

Posted by Zach on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 17:36pm


My good friend Steve, who introduced me to so many great new wave, glam rock, post-punk, alternative, and synthpop acts, wrote this regarding Green Day and pop punk in general in his "Best 5/Worst 5 Music Genres" list. I agree with it 100%. You can probably guess which list he ranked pop punk under.

"1.)pop punk-- I affectionately refer to this style of bastardized punk as "poop puke." Sometime around the early '90s--maybe 1992 or 93, we started hearing about one of punk's many "rebirths." Along with most Jello Biafra/Dead Kennedys, Henry Rollins, and overtly political hardcore punk, dog puke is among some of the shittiest, most awful music, ever to grace popular charts. Pop punk was/is primarily concerned with politics (since when does punk become music for uptight, opinionated, senior citizens,) the mall, fashion, and an already dead joke about pot. There is nothing sleazy, dirty, or wretched about Green Day (Green Gay), 182 shits, Ass Nacho 1 (Sum 41, anyone?), The Retardis (Ataris), Some Lie (Sublime--more ska-punk than anything else,) or Mall Cock Fan (Simple Plan.) Real pop punk can be found in bands like the Ramones, Buzzcocks, The Jam, and The Rezillos. The 90's were the beginning of the end for punk, but its demise came into full fruition right around the early to mid 2000's, with the dawn of the "American Idiot." Green Gay became a household name, and their political, Bush-burning (of the former president and their own pubic parts), was rampant. Suddenly, not-so-different teenagers began acting like they had always been hip, guitar-wielding, "rebels." One word--poser (most music today caters to these types of people.) Slick, polished, generic guitar riffs and "looking sexy for Rolling Stone" replaced homegrown obscenity that challenged the system. Pop punk is for your mom, not impressionable young people.

etc., onward

Posted by Zach on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 17:36pm
--------------------------------------------------
Your friend Steve appears to be knowledgeable in all things pertaining to the accessories attached to music. Unfortunately, he doesn't say anything about music here. He lambastes politics (which is funny, since the Clash were all over the political spectrum), and fashion (despite the fact that the original punks were amongst the most fashion obsessed folk I've ever seen, at least in relation to the hippies).

The Ramones, Buzzcocks, Jam, Rezillos - not pop-punk - Rock. Green Day - rock, on the early recordings. I'll admit they haven't done much recently that hasn't clearly been aimed at a pop market, but we shouldn't really be worried about that in relation to what they did earlier now, should we?

Did they have a mobile rhythm section? Yes, up till the "Nimrod" album, at least.

Did Armstrong put a lot up top, guitar-wise? Not really, but then again, you could say that about a gajillion other bands in the past 60 yrs., regardless of groupings.

I do agree that what came down the line in the 2000's wasn't so hot, but every now & then, you'll find an album cut that works as rock (music). This is kept away from the kids since they might really demand more of it. That's called company pressure/the bottom line. If you're going to complain, start there.

BTW, are you sure you really agree w/everything your friend Steve is saying? After all, he talks about how there is noting "sleazy, dirty or wretched" about modern punk. At the same time, your post immediately above this has you praising the Cure, who are one of the cleanest, tidiest pop acts I've ever seen. Unless you ARE separating the Rock (i.e. the Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. ... & early Green Day) from the Pop (i.e. the Cure - solid music, btw).

As a matter of fact, one could easily say that by the time of "American Idiot", the Cure also fit the mode of being for your mom, & not impressionable young people. I Do hope you constantly challenge your friend Steve's assumptions on some of these issues. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 06:04am


Danke, Zach ;-)

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 07:41am


At Cheesecrop:
I wrote that commentary nearly two years ago. While I still prefer old music over Green Day and the wave of pop punk that engulfed the country by storm during the past decade and a half, my opinions have changed slightly and I regret attacking fans of any said genre in music--I've grown a tad older and wiser in these past two years (at a snail's pace.) Yes, you are absolutely correct on The Clash--I couldn't have said it better myself. I've actually begun to become more informed on politics (although I refuse to vote for any candidates up for any of the elections), and I have also rediscovered my love of The Clash's music. However, not all of the Clash's music is considered punk--surely their first LP qualifies, but they merge so many different styles together, and yes they do inject a truck load of political commentary. But, it's great sounding music to me, and I enjoy it quite a bit. I am definitely not as narrow-minded, genre-wise, and I respect certain bands for certain aspects of their career--I primarily focus on the Clash's accomplished musicianship, and I could care less for most of their lyrics. All in all, punk in it's purest form doesn't seem too concerned with politics, and I enjoy the original wave from the seventies, as it sounds plenty fresher to me than most of the bands that have come about in recent years. That's just my opinion, and while I generally think that rock music and politicians make strange bedfellows, I can appreciate other bands for including a governmental reference here or there, punk or not. I am a big Cure fan, by the way. I'm not looking to start any conflicts, but I did write that up a while back, and I respect others for what they listen to whether I'm partial to it or not. Green Day just doesn't put the bullet in the Bible for me.

Posted by Steve on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 21:24pm


Before I respond to some of the comments directed to me, Cheesecrop, I figured I'd make you aware of two things:

1) I have already contacted Steve and informed him of this conversation so that he can jump in and share his feelings. I'd rather give him the table to speak instead of talking for him.

2) I'm purposely refusing to address anything specifically aimed at Steve, as I feel it would be more correct if he had a chance to defend his statements and clarify his positions.

Now that the formalities have been acknowledged, it's time to respond to a few points you made:

"After all, he talks about how there is noting "sleazy, dirty or wretched" about modern punk. At the same time, your post immediately above this has you praising the Cure, who are one of the cleanest, tidiest pop acts I've ever seen. Unless you ARE separating the Rock (i.e. the Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. ... & early Green Day) from the Pop (i.e. the Cure - solid music, btw)."

I've never said that being "sleazy, dirty or wretched" are attributes I look for in punk bands, so I fail to see how any of that relates to my admiration for The Cure. I am not a huge punk fan, but I what I do enjoy falls into the 1970s era as well as some of the proto-punk bands (think The Stooges and The New York Dolls). My interest in punk falls off sharply with the beginnings of hardcore punk (A completely disposable style; heard one, heard 'em all.). The Cure's sound is far more experimental and ambitious than The Ramones and their ilk, even though I enjoy them both. The Cure are usually classified as postpunk and goth rather than just straight punk. Their sound owes more to David Bowie, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Roxy Music, and The Sensational Alex Harvey Band (Robert Smith did credit The Buzzcocks as an influence, but The Cure's overall sound has more goth, glam rock, and psychedelic influences than straight punk).

While I will concede that some of The Cure's material falls into a more accessible, pop format (Friday I'm in Love is a prime example), most of what they do is most definitely not accessible, radio-friendly music. Have you even listened to Pornography (The whole album, not just snippets or a few tracks)? It's not exactly the kind of music that would be sandwiched in between Olivia Newton-John and Lionel Richie back in the day. When you refer to The Cure as "one of the cleanest, tidiest pop acts I've ever seen," my head just boggles at how wrong that statement is. For crying out loud, you make it sound like they were competing for the same crowd as Air Supply and Kenny Rogers back in the early '80s. Not quite as asinine as what that jackass classicrocker said about '70s glam rock, but it's a categorization that puzzles me. (Granted, image was a part of that scene, but it was not the only worthwhile aspect of glam rock. The music counts first.)

"As a matter of fact, one could easily say that by the time of "American Idiot", the Cure also fit the mode of being for your mom, & not impressionable young people. I Do hope you constantly challenge your friend Steve's assumptions on some of these issues. :)"

The thought of The Cure ever being a band that would appeal to average moms is laughable. The only moms I can think of who would be fans of The Cure would be the hip ones who were fans of The Cure back in the 1980s and introduced them to their children.

As I mentioned before, Steve got me hooked on a lot of '70s English glam rock, new wave, post-punk, synthpop, new romantic, prog rock, and proto-punk/early punk bands. I, in turn, introduced him to rockabilly, jump blues, soul, rhythm & blues, surf, Chicago/Texas blues, swing and bebop jazz, and piano blues. Our tastes in music are very compatible, although our tastes aren't complete mirror images of each other.

Posted by Zach on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 21:43pm


Welcome aboard, Steve. Hope you stick around.

I have to admit that I also enjoy The Clash, but I likewise tune out the political themes, as it is the musicianship that matters most to me. Musically speaking, The Clash had a hell of lot more going for them than the hardcore punk groups, which barely rose above 2-3 chord sloppiness and earache-inducing "vocals" (Obnoxious screaming is more like it).

Posted by Zach on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 21:55pm


At Cheesecrop:

I wrote that commentary nearly two years ago. While I still prefer old music over Green Day and the wave of pop punk that engulfed the country by storm during the past decade and a half, my opinions have changed slightly and I regret attacking fans of any said genre in music--

etc., onward

Posted by Steve on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 21:24pm
--------------------------------------------------
Obviously, I had no idea your comments were from two yrs. ago.

I agree that politics doesn't have to be a part of music, & that when it's used as an extra selling point, that listener's need to beware of the act. If they've the musicianship to back it up, then more power to the act - in rock terms.

Over a great deal of time, I've developed a decidedly diff. view on rock. There is lots of rock out there. It's just a matter of hunting and pecking around. Sometimes the radio can fool you, though. I think it's all a matter of tuning out the vocalist & listening to the players. If the drummer swings, the bassist finds a place to keep him/her company, if there willing to change up the structure slightly, then it becomes a little more bearable. If the guitarist has something to say, then throw him in there too.

I agree that most modern "punk" has little going for it w/the singles, but that's more to do w/a money grab than anything else. If Joe Corporation Exec tells you to play stock riffs, lots of these bands will play "riffing for dollars". Out in the hinterlands you'll find worthwhile stuff (that'll be the bands w/the empty pockets).

Stick around on-site, Please. We're about to hit the 80's on our massive Song Project, & adding in extra voices to the mix is always cool. Just follow along, try to interpret the 70's part (if you like), & you'll be o.k. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.11.13 @ 06:18am


When you refer to The Cure as "one of the cleanest, tidiest pop acts I've ever seen," my head just boggles at how wrong that statement is. For crying out loud, you make it sound like they were competing for the same crowd as Air Supply and Kenny Rogers back in the early '80s. it's a categorization that puzzles me. (Granted, image was a part of that scene, but it was not the only worthwhile aspect of glam rock. The music counts first.)

Posted by Zach on Friday, 08.9.13 @ 21:43pm
--------------------------------------------------
I edited the classicrocker reference out (no need to mention).

You answered your own question when you referred to the image. Even you have to admit that, when compared to the safety-pin & bondage crowd that surfaced right around the time of The Cure, they look as well-scrubbed as Green Day.

For the record, the Cure made some great pop. I like a lot of what they did. Please understand, my definition of rock is far, far diff. from what most of the folks on this site believe. I Know this already. Thing is, I've never had a problem appreciating most acts for what they bring to the table, even if I may see it in a diff. light musically. I've slowly come to the conclusion that I should expect no one, period, to follow my musical trail. I do respect what you say. Just understand, I'm probably coming from a completely different direction (though you'll always get my vote on the 50's).

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.11.13 @ 06:50am


"You answered your own question when you referred to the image. Even you have to admit that, when compared to the safety-pin & bondage crowd that surfaced right around the time of The Cure, they look as well-scrubbed as Green Day."

My comment about image was a reference to classicrocker's myopic views on the '70s glam rock movement, not about The Cure or Green Day. By editing out my reference to him, you completely altered the intent of my comments and made it seems like I was talking about The Cure.

One crucial thing to remember is that nearly every genre of music has its own image, and anyone who disputes it is kidding themselves. The punk bands that emerged around the same time as The Cure were just as guilty of pushing a certain look and fashion style, even though they vainly attempted to paint themselves as "nonconformists" and "independent." What a band wears has no bearing on whether I enjoy their music or not, because it is the music that counts first and foremost. In that regard, I consider The Cure superior to the hardcore punk bands that sprung up around the same time. I cited examples of The Cure's musical repertoire that prove how experimental and unique they are as a band, without any regard as to whether they fit into pop or rock (All that it matters is that it sounds good to me). Hardcore punk, OTOH, contains none of the elements I look for in music. Mindless screaming, two-chord guitar-playing, and incomprehensible lyrics just don't cut it for me. I want instruments and voices that sound great or even just good. Maybe I've just been spoiled by recent listens to Dizzy Gillespie, The Nat King Cole (before Nat went solo and ditched jazz for pop), and Charlie Parker, but I just can't settle for mediocrity in music.

"For the record, the Cure made some great pop. I like a lot of what they did. Please understand, my definition of rock is far, far diff. from what most of the folks on this site believe. I Know this already. Thing is, I've never had a problem appreciating most acts for what they bring to the table, even if I may see it in a diff. light musically. I've slowly come to the conclusion that I should expect no one, period, to follow my musical trail. I do respect what you say. Just understand, I'm probably coming from a completely different direction (though you'll always get my vote on the 50's)."

Glad to see that you and I share a mutual appreciation of The Cure. While your classification of them as pop raises my eyebrows, I'm not about to blow a gasket, unless you pull a classicrocker and say that they sacrificed musicianship for image (In case you haven't yet noticed, I really despise him).

I read your timeline of rock vs. pop, and I agree and disagree with it. I'm surprised that you didn't mention the most obvious example of pop being passed off as rock, Pat Boone. You did mention his contemporaries, like Fabian and Frankie Avalon, but Boone strikes me as a more glaring example. I obviously disagree with your labeling Van Halen as pop, but that's water under the bridge.

I hold no ill will towards you for how you perceive rock and pop, and respect you for sticking to your guns.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 08.28.13 @ 23:23pm


Green Day is a great band, I must agree. They have a great songwriter, an erratic drummer, and one of the best bassist around. I love them with all my heart, and hope they make it into the Hall. But in terms of being influential (which I'm sure is a key factor), I can't think of any, in my opinion, good bands that count them as one of their influences. Yes, Green Day is considered, and rightly so, possibly the greatest live band in the world. But talent isn't the only thing that counts.

Posted by Faith on Friday, 09.27.13 @ 14:17pm


yes Green day definitly deserves to be in the Hall....just think about it they came out and pumped put hit after hit then it seemed like they fell of the map but they make a comeback out of nowhere and continue to pump out some kick ass records...even if you dont like Green day you have to respect them

Posted by kevin on Saturday, 10.19.13 @ 00:40am


I fully believe that they SHOULD be inducted, though I have my doubts that they WILL. The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame denies great musicians for long periods of time, and accepts significantly lesser musicians every year.

Green Day have been accepted by those musicians that they are most inspired by; The Ramones and Iggy Pop having asked Green Day to induct them/play cover songs at their induction. In one of Joe Strummer's last interviews, he mentioned how he likes Green Day; Bob Mould from Husker Du, and Bad Religion's Greg Gaffin was also interviewed in a Green Day documentary along with Elvis Costello, etc about Green Day's talent and importance to bringing punk into a more public eye. Glen Matlock, original bassist of the Sex Pistols even took a fancy to them.

For good or for bad, new generations became interested in punk thanks to Green Day--obviously not ONLY because of Green Day, but because of their popularity in the mid-nineties, it drew attention to it. They were like a gate-way drug. Also because they greatly CREDITED their inspirations.

Whether you like a band or not, objectively, you cannot deny song-writing, musical and sound quality. Not to mention they are great to fans. They've ALWAYS stuck by what they believe in because they love making music, and that is all that matters to them. They never have, and never will let people put them down for their decisions, and that is a great inspiration.

People who bitch about them because "Dookie was better", yet most who say this were barely out of childhood when Dookie came out, and clearly would've liked more recent albums in order to bother with Dookie. People who say Green Day were punk BEFORE Dookie, are ridiculous because then they had the LEAST punk music EVER. They may have lived more "punk", but that's it, and it's not like they didn't try to stay involved in the community. People who say they sucked after American Idiot are also up their asses because that album is pure brilliance. People who start calling Green Day "bubblegum" punk, or "sellouts" are just hoping on an un-informed Green Day-hating bandwagon that seems to have become so popular since about 2005.

Ever wonder why it's always Green Day that gets lumped in to this EXTREME, and unnecessary hate? To the point where people go out of their way to harass Green Day fans and video comments on YouTube? It's because Green Day fan base is dedicated and protective, and internet trolls like to push us, yet won't in real life because they have no legitimate arguments about Green Day that can't be EASILY shut down by LOGIC and BACKGROUND INFORMATION on the band.

Posted by Shann on Monday, 12.23.13 @ 21:34pm


McFly, Tsunami Bomb, The Matches, Teenage Bottlerocket, Anti-Flag, Sum-41, Blink-182, All Time Low, The Living End, Good Charlotte, Weezer, Avril Lavigne, Simple Plan, AFI, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, New Found Glory, Paramore, etc were influeced by Green Day. Both good bands, and "meh" at best bands, or just plain "FUN" bands.

Not to mention all the bands they created themselves and participated in, and the fact that Billie Joe runs a record label.

Posted by Xander on Monday, 12.23.13 @ 21:50pm


Also. Erm. Nirvana is getting inducted this year, and I'm none too impressed, nor can I say the bands influenced by them were all that memorable. That's not to say Nirvana isn't a great band; they are, just I don't believe they are any better than Green Day. The death of Kurt Cobain was tragic, but melodramatic, and a pretentious reason for killing yourself and leaving your child, friends, and passions behind for.

If it weren't for his death, I doubt Nirvana would have become so iconic. Cobain would have at some point released an album that upset "old fans", just as Green Day did, and it would start crap like this as well. Yes, if it weren't for Nirvana making their alternative music palatable enough to be played on mainstream radio, then Green Day wouldn't have been the next choice (which is LITERALLY why the record companies hunted Green Day down; to be the next big alternative band on the radio), and why it opened the doors further to bands like Rancid, and later many more. They got popular because people started getting tired of the grunge sound.

Posted by Shann on Monday, 12.23.13 @ 22:01pm


Sharin, I think Green Day will get in on their first year of eligibility. Having somewhat recently been the presenter for the Stooges when they were inducted, Billie Joe, at present, would appear to be on the inside track with the powers-that-be, and that'll always help towards getting your act inducted.

As far as Nirvana goes, I do believe they'd be considered iconic if Cobain hadn't committed suicide. When "Smells Like Teen Spirit" broke through to the mainstream, it seriously changed the game, the way rock was viewed, the way it was exhibited, the way it was expected to sound. That record alone was pretty much the death of the '80's' musical philosophy. It changed in that much, and would still be heralded as such. Had Cobain lived, it's hard to say whether they'd be able to top the gravitas of what that song alone accomplished. It may not be your favorite Nirvana track, but it is iconic, out and out. And Nirvana would still be getting inducted this year for what they did.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12.24.13 @ 01:57am


GD are influential whether the haters like it or not. There is no denying that many new bands would not exist without them whether those bands are good or not. If you know anything at all about the band beyond the surface you will know they do not have the attitudes of 'sellouts', BJ has admitted many times that he wishes they could go back to playing sweaty clubs and does not enjoy being on a major label. They just wanted their music to be heard and to always be able to play it. Signing up is a way to do it that also feeds your family and secures a future for your children. But I suppose punk ethics should come before keeping a roof over your head....

Posted by SC on Saturday, 12.28.13 @ 10:11am


If you guys don't like Green Day, that just goes to show you how much you actually know about them...NOTHING! They've been a band since the 1980s... They were first known as Sweet Children... They've released 11 albums... They have 5 Grammies out of their 18 nominations... They've gotten 6 awards and 9 nominations at the MTV Video Music Award... At the American Music Awards they received five nominations for the "Favorite Alternate Artist" award... They were nominated for 9 Billboard Music Awards in 2005, winning 6 of them including "Rock Artist of the Year" and "Rock Song of the Year."...so, yeah. I'd say they deserve to be inducted and to continue being the best Punk Rock band in the world. If you don't like them, don't worry about it. Just leave the page. You don't need to say anything. So stop talking about them like that... Thanks ;)

Posted by Victoria on Saturday, 12.28.13 @ 17:14pm


"If you guys don't like Green Day, that just goes to show you how much you actually know about them...NOTHING! "--Victoria

I don't hate Green Day, and indeed enjoy a number of their songs, but I have to laugh at absurd maxims such as this. Green Day may simply not be someone's cup of tea. It's ridiculous, As inundated as the world of music has been with information about the Beatles, the average person almost certainly knows something, or a few things, about the Beatles, and yet there are people who simply don't fancy them. What makes Green Day so special? Or Rush? Or the Four Season? It's as absurd a statement as assuming that because you understand someone's position, you must therefore be in agreement with them. Utter hogwash.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 12.28.13 @ 18:04pm


HECK yes they should be inducted!!! And to all the people saying they're "pop" and "terrible musicians", I'll just leave this here... http://youtu.be/SUeefOD2pKw

Posted by Ashley on Sunday, 12.29.13 @ 03:03am


Are you people freaking serious?? You can't have an opinion on anything or anyone withought knowing them very well! I bet my a$$ none of you who are dishing Green Day have actually listened to a whole album, or do I have to say more than one song? I'll tell you something. I'm a fan since 1992 and their music has changed my life to the best. So they did for thousands of other people who listen to their music. Doesn't that count as an influence? They have their own musical that's about to become a movie and I'm pretty sure that all of you who're dishing them are fans of other bands who may be big, but they'll never be as good as Green Day and they'll never have what they have. So, you eat your heart out, but you can never touch them. And just an advise. You should enjoy the music and not bitching about it. So times like this, you better shut your mouth and listen to the darn music before they take it away from us and we all become robots!!!

Posted by Just A Person on Sunday, 12.29.13 @ 10:10am


"I bet my a$$ none of you who are dishing Green Day have actually listened to a whole album, or do I have to say more than one song?"

yeah, agreed, sick of haters putting my green day cds in the dishwasher.

"So times like this, you better shut your mouth and listen to the darn music before they take it away from us and we all become robots!!!"

what, are green day the only thing keeping away some sort of dystopian future where music is banned and all people are mindless automatons? well shit, best put them in the hall now!

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 12.29.13 @ 10:26am


I'm a green day fan so naturally I'm all for their induction, but regardless of whether or not you like their music, they have done nothing to hinder music progression which is the general feel I get from the opposing messages. They are very talented musicians and song writers. They take new steps towards song writing and album creation. American idiot being a rock opera as a rarely seen idea, ¡UNO!, ¡DOS! and ¡TRÉ! Being a new concept of triple album, and music is constantly changing, maybe this new style of punk is what music needed. Punk, as it was when it started, is still thriving where it began in the underground. Just because a band starts out in a genre, does that then mean they can't put their own twist on it and create or jump into another 1? Stupid concept if you think about it. They are an amasing band. From what I've read and heard of them they are great role models and ambassadors for young musicians and most importantly, they put on a show which can only be described as Awesome As F**K.

Posted by St Jimmy713 on Monday, 12.30.13 @ 09:29am


MOST CERTAINLY!!! They are the best of all the people who still have not been inducted. Essential songs and if you have one of the best albums of a decade you are a lock

Innovation: Check.
Influence: Check
Popularity: Check

And that's what puts you in the hall. They will get in FIRST BALLOT!

Posted by Karl Singleton on Sunday, 01.26.14 @ 11:55am


What precisely did Green Day innovate? I agree their massive influence is enough for the Hall, but they weren't innovators.

Posted by Sean on Sunday, 01.26.14 @ 17:42pm


Yeah, I'm also supportive of Green Day for their influence, but I'd almost give them negative points for innovation.

Most of their sound was done to death imitation punk. Nothing groundbreaking to see in that area.

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 01.26.14 @ 20:12pm


They combined pop and punk. IS COMBINING TO GENRES OF MUSIC INNOVATIVE ENOUGH???

Posted by Karl Singleton on Tuesday, 01.28.14 @ 21:27pm


Pop and Punk had already been combined by many bands during the actual punk scene in the 70s and into the early 80s. Buzzcocks, the Clash, the Ramones, the Rezillos, Blondie, the Averts, the Stranglers, Alternative TV, the Boys, the Dictators, Magazine, Wire, the Soft Boys and the Only Ones amongst many others had already done it.



Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 01.28.14 @ 22:16pm


Well. Another argument. They made pop punk mainstream in a way.

Posted by Karl Singleton on Wednesday, 02.12.14 @ 15:58pm


Agree with Karl. Green Day is First Ballot Hall of Famers. They have 2 Diamond CD's Dookie & American Idiot plus over 75 million CD's sold. Worldwide.

Green Day has the hits,CD sales,popularity, the RRHOF Committee looks for in the induction of a band.American Idiot boosts Green Day into the legends of music. They were real borderline before that.

Innovation wise they helped jumpstart (90) 90's punk to a new audience & put a melodic spin to it. Green Day like U2 have become music giants. Green Day RRHOF 2014!!! KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 02.17.14 @ 03:16am


I thought the cure changed their name to green day as they have the same style.

Posted by joe on Monday, 02.17.14 @ 07:02am


"I thought the cure changed their name to green day as they have the same style."

?¿?¿

Posted by GFW on Monday, 02.17.14 @ 12:07pm


Green day did to alternative bands from Seattle what nirvana did to 80s metal!!!! Killed it!!! They are and have been the best and biggest and most influential band of the last 20 years!! No question they get in!!! When there's tour rumors of metallica U2 and green day, it's a no brainier! All 3 will be in the hall of fame! Like it or not!!! Me, I happen to love it!!

Posted by Cub on Wednesday, 03.5.14 @ 02:09am


"Green day did to alternative bands from Seattle what nirvana did to 80s metal!!!! Killed it!!!"

That's spectacularly false.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 03.5.14 @ 02:30am


Green day did to alternative bands from Seattle what nirvana did to 80s metal!!!! Killed it!!! They are and have been the best and biggest and most influential band of the last 20 years!!

Posted by Cub on Wednesday, 03.5.14 @ 02:09am
--------------------------------------------------
For the record, I happen to like Green Day myself. That being said:

1. I have no idea where that first statement is coming from. Green Day shared the spotlight w/the majority of Seattle back then. Technically, they still do, as Pearl Jam still hits #1 on the charts, & Soundgarden & Alice in Chains have had success as well in recent yrs.

2. The second sentence is debatable. Green Day are certainly in the running. I'd also think long & hard about Pearl Jam, Radiohead, the Foo Fighters, Dave Matthews Band, Metallica, and perhaps even Tool (not a lot of releases, but they've been pretty well received).

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03.5.14 @ 10:17am


Amazing. Green day has taken you to when life was great and young, and the cares of the world could wait, countless times, and you refuse the timeless songs of Green day still. Turn on the songs of Green day and enjoy for a moment an escape from conformity, to your opinion or anybody else's. Hahaha, you have completely missed the point! To each there own though. Hall of fame? Absolutely yes! No question in my mind!

Posted by mike on Saturday, 03.8.14 @ 01:43am


They will definitely get in. And people can't say that all green day albums are the same because there is a total difference after Warning. American Idiot was there ticket in but 21st Century Breakdown was a huge success also. And I read how some people say billies songwriting skills are lackluster because he wrote 2 rock operas!! Needless to say that Green Day will be inducted in 2015 along with 9 inch nails.

Posted by ryan on Tuesday, 04.1.14 @ 12:36pm


i see many of peoples views but her's the thing green day created a sound that influence many band over the years with out means no Blink-182, no Fall out boy, no panic at the disco, no all time low, no all american rejects, no paramore, majority of bands on warped tour would not exist, Green day is one of the greats in modern punk, they write music and all though many songs sound the same, they all have there own meaning. You don't have to like them but respect them for what they are. They are and will always be one of the greatest bands of all time. Many people hate the beatles, the rolling stones, or jimi hendrix's sounds but respect them for the influence they had on music.

Posted by Jon on Tuesday, 04.8.14 @ 13:08pm


"no Blink-182, no Fall out boy, no panic at the disco, no all time low, no all american rejects, no paramore, majority of bands on warped tour would not exist"

Not exactly a strong selling point. It seems that ever since I admitted that I think Green Day should go first ballot their fans are trying to talk me out of it.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 04.8.14 @ 15:08pm


Why should green day not be inducted in 2015?

Posted by andrew on Wednesday, 04.9.14 @ 18:39pm


And here's another thing. The hall is showing that they like alternative. REM, U2, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Nirvana have all been inducted and they are all alternative. And, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Stooges, and The Ramones have been inducted. So the hall likes punk to. And since Green Day is both they will most likely they will get in. But I was thinking about what I saw on the Rush page one time.

"The hall hates progressive rock"

That proves that the hall only inducts genres that they like. And what really pisses me off is that there are only 4 southern rock bands in the hall:

Creedence Clearwater Revival
Allman Brothers Band
Lynyrd Skynyrd
ZZ Top

Also, the hall doesn't really like 80's alternative. But that proves a couple of things:

1. What ever genres of rock are most significant are the ones they like
2. The decade that the genre was most popular is the one where you will find the most inductees
3. They exclude artists of genres they describe as "insignificant"

But whether of not they induct Green Day next year will show a lot about their antics and judgement. Hopefullt they'll get Lou Reed in there but maybe he is described as insignificant by the hall.

Posted by Karl Singleton on Monday, 04.21.14 @ 18:31pm


Leave your comment:

Name:

Email:

Comments:


Security Question:

Which letter is Springsteen's band named after?
 

Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. Please keep comments relevant to the topic. Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. Basically, this sums up our policy.

No HTML code is allowed.




This site is not affiliated with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.