ABBA

Rock & Roll Hall of Famer

Category: Performer

Inducted in: 2010

Inducted by: Barry and Robin Gibb

Nominated in: 2003   2010

First Eligible: 1999 Ceremony

Inducted Members: Agnetha Fältskog, Benny Andersson, Björn Ulvaeus, Anni-Frid Lyngstad


Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2011 (ranked #126) .


Essential Songs (?)WikipediaAmazon MP3YouTube
Waterloo (1974)
SOS (1975)
Mamma Mia (1975)
Dancing Queen (1976)
Fernando (1976)
Knowing Me, Knowing You (1976)
The Winner Takes It All (1980)

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I love their work.

Posted by Joshua S. Rubenstein on Saturday, 01.20.07 @ 10:46am


I find it disgraceful that a band that was as important to the 70s as the Beatles were for the 60s has not been inducted.

The Sex Pistols have been....which is in my eyes absurd.

Posted by Al on Monday, 02.26.07 @ 13:34pm


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should not only be ashamed not to have ABBA in the hall already, but not to have nominated a band as important as they are. ABBA has influenced pretty much every pop band that followed, and their sound has put its stamp on bands from Sweden (easily the best non-anglophone pop/rock nation on the planet) from The Cardigans to Peter Bjorn & John. Moreover, musicians from Elvis Costello (already an inductee!) to Madonna count ABBA as an influence; even Kurt Cobain was said to be an ABBA fan.

I have a suspicion the Rock Hall powers-that-be are not interested in nominating ABBA as they are fairly sure the band is not going to reunite for the induction. "If we can't get a big performance from them, why bother?" That's no way to treat one of the most important bands of the last three decades. R.E.M., Grandmaster Flash, and The Pretenders are worthy of being in the Hall, but not ABBA? Elvis Costello, who cops to stealing piano riffs from "Dancing Queen," can get in, but not ABBA? Ridiculous.

Posted by Andrew on Tuesday, 03.6.07 @ 21:13pm


It's tough to call ABBA rock and roll, but hey, the Bee Gees are in!

Posted by Joe on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 17:03pm


They've only sold 370 million records...there's no way they deserve a place in the R&R Hall of Fame.

Posted by Eric on Saturday, 03.24.07 @ 09:48am


Their kitschy 70's image (white jump suits, blue eyeliner) has been a big factor in ABBA's failure to be inducted which is really something of a shame. Few groups (it might be a bit of a stretch to call them a band) created more surprisingly sophisticated pop that ABBA and any number of current Hall members praise them for their keen melodic sense.

Elvis Costello - admits freely that he and producer Nick Lowe lifted the piano rifts from "Waterloo" and "Dancing Queen" for his song "Oliver's Army."

Pete Townsend - says that both "SOS," and "Knowing Me, Knowing You" are two of the most perfect pop songs ever written and produced.

Johhny Rotten - has said on many occasions that he and the rest of the Sex Pistols "always loved ABBA."

Ray Davies - has said he is a fan

Chrissie Hynde - said in an interview that The Pretenders were influence by ABBA's strong melodic sense

Kurt Cobian - OK, not a member yet, but it is only a matter of time. An ABBA "Greatest Hits" CD was often heard blasting on the Nirvana tour bus

U2 - regularly covered "Dancing Queen" on a tour a few years ago, including once with guest Benny and Bjorn at a show in Stockholm.

Posted by NFB on Tuesday, 04.3.07 @ 20:36pm


They're basically the Spice Girls of the 70's. I think that sums it up pretty nicely.

Posted by Creepozoid on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 02:21am


They deserve to be inducted,even if they aren't really Rock n' roll

Posted by Goldie on Friday, 04.27.07 @ 02:41am


As rock grows into subcategories, it's completely illogical to ignore disco as a category of rock and still include blues, R&B, soul, and gospel. That stunt at the baseball field in the early 80's is still buggering people that disco isn't a legitimate form of music. Disco music is dance music. If you can dance to a rock song, disco is right behind it.

That their lyrics didn't mean much? That's a bit arguable, but neither did Gene Vincent's, Jerry Lee Lewis', Little Richard, the Everly Brothers, and much of doo-wop or the beginnings of rap.

Their music was fluff? ABBA is proving to be a phenomenon of longevity, even to their dismay it seems at times. Their completely unique sound - and not only is it unique, it is a force of nature form of Wall of Sound - was exceedingly catchy. "Wall to wall hooks," I remember a TV commentator describing it. And it was. There are at least 5 parts of ABBA each song you could describe a memorable hook.

Their legacy? Muriel's Wedding, Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Mamma Mia, Erasure's "Abba-esque", Madonna's "Hung up", A- Teens (unfortunately) and yes, 370 million albums sold worldwide.

So grow some nuts, Rock Hall. Good for you for not ignoring what the Bee Gees and Earth, Wind and Fire did. I know a lot of rock is sticking it to the man, but sometimes it's popular for a very good reason.

Posted by Moni3 on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 18:58pm


Its a shame that this supergroup from the 70's have not been inducted, they like KISS are another pulp culture icon from the 70's that have another HUGE following of fans! They still do to this day and are still capturing new fans everyday with hits like "Dancing Queen" to "Mamma Mia" to "Gimme,Gimme,Gimme (A Man After Midnight) to "Take a Chance on Me" The Rock Hall needs to wake up and get ABBA in NOW!!!

Posted by Richard Franks on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 19:43pm


Got here from the 2003 induction page (after reading the Kraftwerk entry). Undoubtedly popular, and I'll argue that their music was superb.

Unlike Kraftwerk, Abba didn't explicitly launch any new genres of music (unless you count Ace of Base and A Teens as some type of pop trend), yet their attention to quality certainly influenced other artists.

Posted by Ontario Emperor on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 18:33pm


i don't really like their music but i honestly think they are influential and i would be happy to see that non-anglo-saxon peopla can make it.It would make it more universal

Posted by roméo on Wednesday, 06.6.07 @ 11:44am


Yeah, but I don't know why.

Posted by Seth on Wednesday, 09.12.07 @ 20:02pm


THEY ARE STILL A FORCE TODAY.
EXAMPLE (MAMMA MIA) THE PLAY

Posted by LHL on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 11:42am


ABBA should have been among the first inducted into the Hall. A phenomenal group!

Posted by Jim Colyer on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 16:20pm


Shame!, shame!, shame!
On the Hall of Fame (not you future)
For ignoring ABBA
Because I dont, I dont, I dont, I dont, I dont.
Thank you for the music ABBA

PS I love you Agnetha!

Posted by E Z on Wednesday, 10.3.07 @ 22:41pm


The BEST Group ever - their music is dateless. I saw them 1979 in Munich in concert and I met Benny and Agnetha in Stockholm 82. I will always love your music - you make me happy. MAMMA MIA!

Posted by Christian on Saturday, 10.20.07 @ 11:19am


God how ABBA sucked. If brainless music were the key to getting in, ABBA would have been elected the first year the hall opened. They produced possibly the most uninteresting, mindless pap ever!!!

Posted by P. Onyou on Monday, 10.29.07 @ 19:33pm


Only 370 million??? The ONLY acts to sell more records worldwide are The Beatles (1,000,000 plus!) and Elvis( at approx 1,000,000)..Abba is approaching the half a million mark before you know it, and Mamma Mia! the musical currently enjoying worldwide success..also keep in mind they only produced 8 studio albums...Can you count how large The Beatles/Elvis catalog is??!!do your home work!!..Also credited with being the first group to use videos to promote themselves long before MTV>>>>Eric you are a bonehead.

Posted by jim on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:47pm


Coerrcting error...The Beatles sales well over 1 Billion, Elvis at 1 Billion..I missed a zero or two...sorry...

Posted by jim on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:54pm


and Abba sales will approach the half Billion mark before you know it.....peace

Posted by jim on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 13:56pm


Two things. Firstly, the one billion sales figures are speculative at best (it's hard to tally a final figure when the numbers you need to add up don't exist in any records). Secondly, I'm pretty sure the "Eric" to whom you're referring was using sarcasm.

Posted by William on Thursday, 12.13.07 @ 14:04pm


Not bad at all !!! Depending on your taste... Why not take a chance on ABBA???

Posted by Joe-Skee on Friday, 12.21.07 @ 11:29am


Because we all know what happened at Waterloo.

Posted by Arrow Man on Friday, 12.21.07 @ 14:25pm


When it was established that the Beatles had overtaken Elvis Presley as the biggest rock (and roll) act of all time, someone asked John Lennon who he thought would overtake the Beatles. Guess who he chose. (No, it wasn't The Who, The Stones or LZ.) Look up ABBA's entry in Wikipedia if you don't believe me.

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 12.22.07 @ 17:01pm


I doubt that an artist's catalogue inspiring a Broadway (or off-Broadway) show is a valid criterion for induction into the Hall but Queen ("We Will Rock You" may still be playing in Las Vegas), Billy Joel ("Movin' Out") and Bob Dylan ("The Times They Are A-Changing is coming from the same people who brought "Movin' Out") are all inducted. Granted, they were inducted long before these musicals existed, but...

Posted by Joe on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 15:30pm


For all of you saying ABBA is a disco act, a broadway success, a mindless hit factory, i advice you to listen WELL to their 2 last albums. With this you'll avoid some ignorant comments.

Posted by Pedro on Friday, 12.28.07 @ 16:29pm


I was veeeerrrryyy inspired by ABBA, they wrote great pop songs. They however are not the Beatles! NO one will ever be, BUT they were popular, not so much in the U.S. but worldwide they were huge like the Beatles. They've inspired many acts. Many people like them, Nirvana, Madonna, U2 even the Beatles respect them. I will admit I like only certain songs, their deeper ones, The Day Before You Came, Eagle, I loved the mini-opera with Thank You For THe music, I'm A Marionette etc. They were and are a great band who contributed much to the music since them just like The Beatles and Elvis before them. Abba is up there with them as far as influence. I mean I love progressive rock music Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Spock's Beard, but Abba will always be close to my heart.

kevin

Posted by Kevin on Tuesday, 01.8.08 @ 20:54pm


Of course ABBA wasn't a disco act. They just happened to be at the height of their popularity when Disco was big.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 01.9.08 @ 14:26pm


As a huge ABBA fan, I do not think that being in the Hall of Fame is really THAT important to ABBA. They have enough respect already through thier longevity. They have never reformed even though they were offered 1 billion US dollars because they want to be remembered for how great they were and, still are. There would not be 1 band ever that would refuse this type of money. Goes to show that ABBA were in it for the music. There is something very special about the Swedes and the privacy they command. There has never been any scandas about any of the ABBA members. How many top acts could say the same? And considering they sold around 360 million records with only 8 studio albums, no pop act will ever achieve this type of success again. Should they be in? Who really cares. They are timeless.

Posted by Mike London on Saturday, 01.12.08 @ 02:45am


Personally I'm not crazy about their music, but I'm not the see all end all when it comes to music either. You simply can't discount what they've done...

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 01.27.08 @ 10:30am


Did you know that many artists have used ABBA's Polar Studios in Sweden. Led Zep recorded "In Through The Out Door" there, Genesis recorded "Duke and The Pretenders recorded "Get Close" there. If these artists used ABBA's recording studio, that shows they have some respectability

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 01.30.08 @ 13:58pm


There are not even listed in the future. The Hall had plenty of time,and ABBA is nowhere to be found. It won't happen. To bad. Dave

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 01.30.08 @ 19:30pm


One of the greatest pop bands of all time. The 2 ladies were wonderful vocalists. 'Winner Takes it All' still makes me cry. Travesty they are not in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 03.10.08 @ 08:07am


no! stop!

Posted by spike on Monday, 03.10.08 @ 11:37am


Even though I wouldn't recommend them for the ROCK & ROLL Hall of Fame (which, in my mind, they have as much right as Madonna), they did sell a WHOLE lot of records (that was my last tally, William) and were immensely popular! I don't know that they were much of an influence or very innovative, but they definitely struck a nerve with people. Aw, heck...I cranked the radio a couple of times when "S.O.S." came on!! So flog me!!

Posted by Terry on Friday, 03.14.08 @ 20:22pm


As a further comment, brook on this (as Kurt would say): They recorded great songs in a 2nd language! How good would U2 have been if they recorded all their songs in German?

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 03.17.08 @ 11:24am


Absolutely should be in. The problem is that rock and roll is considered the music of rebellion, and ABBA was anything but rebellious or punk. But neither was James Taylor, and he's in. If you are considering what thier contributions to rock were, you have to let them in. ABBA's songs were absolutely irresistable, and even hard rock bands are trying to write 'ABBA-esque' hooks today.

Posted by DaveYes on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 12:43pm


The big reason ABBA will--and will not--be inducted: a reunion. The RRHOF would absolutely love to hold a reunion of one of the most successful (and reclusive) bands of all time. Remember, this band sells 3 million albums a year even now--25 years after they broke up. That alone would be enough for the Hall to do anything in its power to induct them.

But the two men of the group have agreed (and I imagine the two women concur) that a reunion will simply never happen. Per a July 7, 2008 interview, one said that they "want to be remembered as we were; young, full of energy and ambition." (Quote approximate.)

It is unreasonable for their fans to expect them to look like they did on the album covers thirty years later, but this is what is expected. And I doubt that the Hall would induct them without a chance of them reuniting for a little "Dancing Queen" performance.

Posted by Joe on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 18:49pm


To say ABBA weren't rebelious is to say that you REALLY haven't listened to ABBA's music. Listen to "Soldiers" (about war and how those involved in war delude themselves into thinking that it's a grand and noble thing, while those who are not 'soldiers' consider it abhorrent) or "The Visitors" (Cold War visits by the Secret Police to residences). "Hole In Your Soul" was all about Rock 'N' Roll and how nothing's more true. "Watch Out" could be covered by a heavy metal band and people would not believe it's ABBA origins. ABBA songs are deceptively simple -- and as one expert put it, it's the simple-sounding songs that are the hardest to write. And I think that the simple fact that Madonna declined to perform at her induction ceremony, and the addition fact that all four original ABBA members did reunite for a premier of "Mamma Mia!" leaves the door wide open for their induction -- they would appear and NOT have to perform. I'm sure Elvis Costello, or Bono, or Phil Collins would be honored to perform in their place (I think Phil would do a heck of a job with "Fernando"!)

Posted by John K on Tuesday, 07.29.08 @ 01:28am


"And I think that the simple fact that Madonna declined to perform at her induction ceremony, and the addition fact that all four original ABBA members did reunite for a premier of 'Mamma Mia!' leaves the door wide open for their induction"--John K

Point of fact: Madonna asked the Stooges to perform in her place as her way of protesting their exclusion from the Hall. At least, that's according to Ron Asheton of the Stooges.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 07.29.08 @ 02:32am


I vote Yes !! It is good to see rock being sung in english in a non english country.. They were good musicians and a fun act..

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 09.17.08 @ 06:09am


I find it simply unfathomable that this group is not here. They tower over many of the groups already in, and surely deserve to be there.

Posted by Tim O on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 14:18pm


THEY DESERVE IT AND MORE IF OTHERS HAVE COME THERE BECAUSE WE DO NOT TAKE IT TO THEM... LUCK.. EN LO POCO QUE SE DE INGLES LO MUCHO ES LO ESCRI TO AQUI

Posted by NARY on Thursday, 11.6.08 @ 18:57pm


I agree that Abba were purists - more interested in the music than the money. Consequently they created music that billions have enjoyed making Abba a ton of money as a result.

Motivated by the money or by the memetic payoff, many, many artists have tried to duplicate Abba's formula for uber success and none have succeeded. Writing such so-called simple tunes apparently isn't so simple after all. Genius is like that. I give you Einstein's equation E=mc2. A fad, inconsequential, and simple wouldn't you say?

Posted by Stephen on Sunday, 11.23.08 @ 13:32pm


Your last two sentences say nothing Stephen. Although I get your point.

ABBA FOREVER

Posted by Orgee on Sunday, 11.23.08 @ 13:51pm


That ABBA has been largely unrecognized by the American music elite is no particular surprise. But the weight of evidence supporting the band's induction into the HofF is reaching crushing proportions. When Universal tallies the band's historical worldwide sales again (they last did so two years ago, before the success of Mamma Mia! the Movie put ABBA's orginal recordings back on the charts world-wide) they will likely be approaching 500,000,000 units sold. Half a billion. Second only to the Beatles. I cannot name more than one or two other bands whose music has been so enduring and so globally embraced. They recorded in at least five languages, and their evolution and growth as composers, arrangers and artists in the eight years betweeen their first and last albums (think Ring Ring to the Visitors) is astonishing. Their influence on other artists, from Bono to Madonna to Elvis Costello, has been acknowledged. And often unremarked is their pioneering influence on the now-ubiquitous music video. I don't believe there is another pre-MTV band that so faithfully recorded their catalogue on video. More than 30 singles and significant album tracks professionally produced on video, almost a quarter of their catalogue, and most before 1980.

Posted by Scott on Saturday, 02.14.09 @ 03:38am


ABBA in the seventies were world-wide superstars. Whether you feel the music wasn't serious enough or hard rockin' enough, it was in many ways musically perfect. Their production was perfect, the vocals were always beautiful and the songs were catchy.

Sure they aren't trailblazers like Bob Dylan or the Beatles, but they had a sound that was at that time in music in a class of its own.

ABBA is about love.

Posted by Ed on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 16:21pm


Ed...for argument's sake, I'd go as far as to say that if Madonna is in the HoF, then ABBA should also be. Let's see...same kind of music (generally speaking), jaw-dropping stage presence, sold hundreds of millions of records, worldwide fame (even 25 years after they last performed together)...Hmmm????

The ol' "committee" just doesn't seem to be real consistent, eh?

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 16:30pm


Actually Gitarzan, there is consistency. Both ABBA and Madonna have been on the ballot once. Only difference is Madonna got in.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 17:17pm


Philip...I think the main inconsistency lies in the fact that ABBA quit performing together before Madonna even came along and have maintained a great deal of popularity over the years. That's 25 years worth of chances that the "committee" had to induct them, and "Madge" got in on the first ballot. I know you think she deserved it, and that's cool. My big gripe is the long list of artists (and it gets longer every year) who so richly deserve such an award, and...well, you know the rest.

Madonna in the HoF...maybe a few years from now with some retrospect, but first ballot...I just really don't get it. ABBA has at least every bit the credentials...AND they've had a long time to think about it.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 17:40pm


Oh I know, Gitarzan... I was just making a joke. Honestly, I liken ABBA to be more like a 70's version of the Lovin' Spoonful than like Madonna. Short-lived group, packed a lot of wallop in their songs, good time music, only one number one hit, etc. ABBA's one of those that I could take or leave, but would be happier taking than leaving.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 17:57pm


Awwww shucks!!! Here I thought I was saying something profound...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 21:32pm


Profound? On an ABBA thread? lolz

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 22:11pm


Hey, I can be profound (I think???!!!)

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 22:13pm


"(I think???!!!)"--Git.

I wouldn't start on such a grandiose premise, were I you. lol

Thank you folks, I'll be here all weekend. Don't forget to tip your veal and try the waitresses.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 22:24pm


My dad used to tell me "you think you're being witty...but you're only half right".

I'm still trying to figure out what he meant by that...

Hey Philip...throw on some "Midnight at the Oasis" by Maria Muldaur for me ("send your camel to bed"???? I smell something subliminal!!!)!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 22:31pm


I'm happy to report that we do not carry that atrocity.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 22:43pm


Interesting thread :) But don't mind me, Philip, if I politely contest your contention that ABBA was a "short-lived group...only one number one hit". They actually recorded and performed together for 11 years, from Dec. 71 to Dec. 82. It's true they had only one number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 (Dancing Queen). (They had another two on the Billboard AC chart: Fernando and Winner Takes it All.) But world-wide ABBA had something like 16 number 1 singles, charting in at least 17 countries. Not bad for a little good-time band from Stockholm.

Posted by Scott on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 04:00am


I stand corrected. I thought they'd broken up in '80, and hadn't formed until '74.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 04:05am


NP:) A lot of people assume the group were formed only for their iconic Eurovision win in '75. In fact they recorded their first single, People Need Love, in late 71, and actually performed together on an casual basis even before that. All four were highly accomplished musicians in their own right before formally coming together as ABBA.

Posted by Scott on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 06:12am


Philip...that timeline for ABBA's existence seems to be pretty accurate...it seems like they were around forever (of course, for some of us, time moved a little more slowly then...LOL). Their airplay on "top 40" stations was constant for a number of years (I worked in offices where that's all the radio was playing...UGH!!!)

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 09:36am


On the subject of ABBA musical parallels...I had the great good fortune to see Fleetwood Mac in concert last week: still fabulous after all these years, even without Christine McVie in the lineup. Like the Mac, ABB&A were able to channel their personal turbulence into very listenable pop/rock. Beneath the infectious hooks, especially post-Arrival, the pain in the lyrics is just beneath the surface and often very raw. Compare 'When All is Said and Done' from ABBA's 1981 album The Visitors and Lindsey Buckingham's 'I Know I'm Not Wrong'.

Posted by ns_kid on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 09:44am


ns_kid...that's actually a pretty good comparison. Personal turmoil is a good way to write an emotional song, and those groups ended up with loads of it.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.29.09 @ 09:55am


I'm still trying to figure out how the Bee Gees were an almost-instant-inductee, but ABBA is still waiting in the wings.

Posted by RB on Sunday, 04.5.09 @ 16:05pm


Good question, RB. Both bands feature highly accomplished, very successful and very professional pop music writer/performers. Some might say the main difference is that the Bee Gees represented the Ango/American music establishment. ABBA does not. Even with the success of the stage and film musical, largely UK-driven, the group is at its heart European, and apparently far too foreign for the taste of the Hall of Fame elite.

Posted by ns_kid on Wednesday, 04.8.09 @ 03:59am


Maybe ABBA is too European, too pop, and too popular to appeal to the refined tastes of RRHOF voters. But I was astounded to see that the so-called Songwriters HOF passed over nominees Ulvaeus and Andersson for induction this year. I searched the SHOF website for some semblance of criteria for admission. Best I could come up with is that they claim to shine "the spotlight on the accomplishments of songwriters who have provided us with the words and music that form the soundtrack of our lives". By what measure can these two very skilled and globally successful composers not qualify for admission to this august body?

Posted by Scott on Monday, 04.13.09 @ 05:45am


Whenever I'm hung over and think that puking will make me feel better, I listen to Abba. Never fails.

Posted by Al Dente on Monday, 06.8.09 @ 21:09pm


ABBA are wooed to fill Jacko's O2 run

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 07.2.09 @ 01:21am


I'd rather jab an icepick in my skull then listen to this crap. No f'n way.

Posted by Ralph on Thursday, 07.16.09 @ 07:08am


I'd rather jab an icepick in my skull then listen to this crap. No f'n way.

Posted by Ralph on Thursday, 07.16.09 @ 07:08am

then do it.

Posted by Ralph-Gay on Thursday, 07.16.09 @ 14:43pm


so ABBA can get in with songs like dancing queen and mamma mia but rush,kiss,alice cooper,judas priest, def leperd, cheap trick, or bad company cant get in this why this commite is garbage abba is pop all the bands i listed desrive in not abba

Posted by hunter on Saturday, 08.8.09 @ 08:31am


Relax, hunter. ABBA hasn't gotten in and probably won't, having only been nominated once. But unlike some of the great acts you name (and which I love, like Rush), ABBA was absolutely an original and globally influential. Noted music critic Tom Moon (Spin, Rolling Stone) put the case better than I can, writing that Abba's songs are "models of impeccable craft, ranking with the most carefully sculpted radio fare of all time." He goes further, saying Abba's music is an excellent introduction for anyone "wanting to investigate the DNA of post-Beatles pop." I expect if Mr. Moon was on the HOF board Benny and Bjorn could count on at least one vote for admission.

Posted by rfj_120 on Sunday, 08.23.09 @ 05:20am


In the entire history of popular music,only the Beatles and Elvis have sold more records worldwide than ABBA.
The "Rock and roll" hall of fame has long since lost any credibility they may once have had, by allowing vastly inferior pop acts in such as Madonna.If "Rock and roll" is now defined soley by attitude and "in your face" sexuality,what's next?Britney Spears,Justin Trousersnake?
Come On! ABBA were simply purveyors of some of the most breathtakingly beautiful melodies ever written,interwoven with dazzling hooks and tied together with brilliant studio production.To exclude them is akin to excluding Ferrari from a classic sports car museum.
However may i suggest they rename it the "Popular music hall of fame" (which it is already,anyway!)

Posted by Derek on Sunday, 08.23.09 @ 08:43am


Derek...with a few notable exceptions on this site, I'd say you're "preaching to the choir". Leaving ABBA out and inducting "The Mad Donna" on the FIRST BALLOT throws me all out of whack...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.23.09 @ 08:48am


I never liked ABBA. I have a great deal of respect for what they have achieved, but their music sounds unbearably light to me.
Anyway, there's no accounting for tastes...

Posted by Bessarabian Incubus on Thursday, 08.27.09 @ 07:24am


http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/nominees-for-2010-induction/

ABBA

They are one of the biggest-selling acts in pop-history – and if Stockholm is now a hit making mecca, it’s because ABBA first put Sweden on rock’s global map. The four members came together in enchanting, late-1960s post-Euro-hippie fashion – initialed for the two couples, Agnetha ‘Anna’ Fältskog and Björn Ulvaeus; and Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid ‘Frida’ Lyngstad. ABBA was a dominant music force throughout the 70’s, and world¬wide licensing deals made Polar Music the second biggest corporation in Sweden. Bjorn and Benny’s studio finesse over the course of ABBA’s eight studio LPs drew wide praise from pure pop punks and New Wavers for whom ABBA became a guilty pleasure. They went their solo ways in 1982, but tribute albums and the boffo musical Mamma Mia are keeping ABBA on permanent display.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.23.09 @ 10:48am


Holy crap. I'm amazed that, having been eligible for induction for over a decade, ABBA has now received only its second nomination. My astonishment will be complete if the Hall has the courage to finally give this globally important band the credit its long been due. The fact is that the North American music industry has rarely acknowledged the world-wide influence of this act, or the pure pop artistry in their work, virtually all of it original compositions by a duo -- sometimes trio -- of very skilled musicians. The nomination is deserved...and so is induction.

Posted by Scott on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 03:49am


Who should give the induction speech for ABBA?

The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Roxette, Ace of Base, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close?

The Bee-Gees for their disco connection to ABBA.

Peter Cetera, who has dated, worked, written, produced and performed with Agnetha Faltskog on her solo albums, and has also done a remake of S.O.S. A big ABBA fan.

Roxette and Ace of Base - other Swedish groups

Actors?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 04:08am


Madonna should give the induction speech for ABBA!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 04:32am


Who should give the induction speech for ABBA?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 04:08am

Pierce Brosnan, hehehehe


Posted by akeem on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 04:42am


Rock and Roll Hall of Shame for not inducting ABBA. Madonna's in and she begged to use ABBA's Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie tune for her gig. It's just shameful not to honor the greatest group in history.

Posted by Rob on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 10:45am


Wow...thanks, Roy. I had never heard Peter Cetera's version of S.O.S. So of course I had to seek it out. Awesome interpretation. I've long believed S.O.S. is simply one of the most perfect pop tunes ever written. Benny and Bjorn absolutely deserve induction into the rock HOF.

Posted by Scott on Thursday, 09.24.09 @ 19:17pm


Spice Girls of the 1970s? Give me break. Sorry I listen to serious music, and ABBA are up there with Dylan and the Beatles. They add a uniquely feminine beauty to already beautiful melodies and mature lyrics. If you think the Visitors or the Day before You came is naff/pop then you need to seriously get your head examined.

Posted by J.McClane on Friday, 09.25.09 @ 04:04am


Peter Cetera wrote I Stand Alone for one of Agnetha Faltskog's 80s solo albums. Peter Cetera also had a duet with Agnetha Faltskog in the late 80s called I Wasn't The One Who Said Goodbye. There is also a music video. Check for it on Youtube. Check Peter Cetera's page on Future Rock Legends for his writing credits and his Billboard Charts stats. Agnetha is included! Peter Cetera's version of S.O.S is from 1995 and it was a duet with country singer Ronna Reeves. You can buy it on iTunes.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.25.09 @ 05:31am


That some people tag ABBA as a disco act continues to baffle me. It very likely has more to do with the glam costumes the band adopted for a couple of years of their 11 years together than for their music. (Benny Andersson has since admitted they were 'clueless' when it came to fashion.) In their catalogue of about 120 tracks, including 16 world-wide number ones, only a handful could be called dance tunes. In fact only two ABBA tracks ever charted on Billboard's Dance/Disco charts. (Voulez-Vous reached number one there in 1981.) Of the band's three other number ones in the U.S., Fernando and Winner Takes it All were ballads and only Dancing Queen is close to being a dance number, though without a true disco beat. Andersson has said he always thought Dancing Queen was too slow to be a dance number. And, while it's the ABBA song most likely to be spun by DJs today, Dancing Queen never did make the dance chart.

Posted by ns_kid on Sunday, 09.27.09 @ 04:58am


ABBA

Bjorn Ulvaeus
Benny Andersson
Agnetha Faltskog
Frida Lyngstad
(Anni-Frid Lyngstad)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.28.09 @ 04:21am


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2010.html

From Digital Dream Door

ABBA

Their second time on the ballot, indicating that someone on the stagnant Nominating Committee has a perverse desire to see them elected. Though accomplished musically, ABBA nevertheless did little more than define the sterile white bread usurpation of rock's claim to the dance floor for those unable, or unwilling, to venture to the disco. Rock 'n' roll's biggest cultural obstacle by the mid-70's was the growing schism between rock's black origins and its white reinterpretation and the subsequent commercial and critical focus on the latter which came at the expense of its true legacy. ABBA was the extreme example of this split, a Swedish group so far removed from rock's creative wellspring that few at the time, or in the years since, even considered them to be part of the style at all. Oddly enough this type of middle of the road uber pop is exactly what the Hall Of Fame has rightly shunned for years, as fans of Neil Diamond and Linda Ronstadt will attest, and so it would seem that a group with five Top Ten Adult Contemporary hits to their name is hardly cutting edge enough to warrant serious consideration. All of which means that once again the Hall faces two embarrassing questions - are they more comfortable selecting a Caucasian group with negligible qualifications rather than offering up the many deserving black contemporaries still waiting for a nomination, and secondly, are the unchecked members of the committee putting forth names on the ballot based largely on personal appeal as opposed to using objective standards? In the case of ABBA it appears both questions have troubling answers.

Qualifications: 2 - Mostly Insignificant

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.2.09 @ 14:26pm


I'm not a fan of ABBA but I think objectively speaking they have to be inducted!
Their music continues to sell, as a group second only to the Beatles, and their influence continues to this day, selling 3 million discs annually. Thats after 16 number worldwide number onesin the 70s! Although certainly no trailblazers, musically its simply foolish to deny their talent.
Are they rock though? More so than Madonna I would say.
Finally in response to Roy, swedish people can only make music as they interpret it and ABBAs real roots are in european folk. Hardly their fault!
We seem to be applying the same racist narrowminded outlook that caused the blues and rock n roll to rebel in the first place!

Posted by Sophie Benoit on Tuesday, 10.6.09 @ 07:34am


I agree Sophie. In my view the main rationale supporting ABBA's induction is also the major reason some HOF voters will overlook them: ABBA was truly the first non-Anglo/American act to achieve lasting international success. ABBA was the first European group to achieve global star status without having to pack up and move to L.A. or London. When purists like the DDD blog sniff that ABBA had only five top ten hits they of course are counting only U.S. results. World-wide ABBA had more than 25 top-20 hits between 1972 and 1981. There's no question about the staying power of the music or of the international influence of the band almost three decades after their last recording session together. ABBA's induction into the HOF would be a signal the Hall is willing to recognize that the American music industry is not the sole arbiter of what constitutes achievement in popular music.

Posted by Fraser on Tuesday, 10.6.09 @ 14:15pm


I would put ABBA in the same boat with Queen. Rolling Stone Magazine never gave Queen a quality rating of more than 2 or 3 stars out of 5 stars on each of their studio albums. Same goes for ABBA. Queen and ABBA both had many anthems that were loved by radio, fans, critics, nightclubs, sporting arenas and Broadway musicals. Queen was inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and ABBA will be inducted as well.

Ironically, Queen and ABBA both have had greatest hits albums made for them in which the album covers were all black and their names and title printed in gold letters.

Queen:

Killer Queen * Bohemian Rhapsody * You're My Best Friend * Somebody To Love * Tie Your Mother Down * It's Late * We Are The Champions * Don't Stop Me Now * Fat Bottomed Girls * Another One Bites The Dust * Crazy Little Thing Called Love * Need Your Loving Tonight * Play The Game * Under Pressure * Flash's Theme * Body Language * Calling All Girls * Life Is Real * Put Out The Fire * I Want To Break Free * It's A Hard Life * Radio Ga-Ga * One Vision * A Kind Of Magic * I Want It All * Headlong * I Can't Live With You * Innuendo * Hammer To Fall * The Show Must Go On * These Are The Days Of Our Lives

ABBA

Honey, Honey * Waterloo * S.O.S * Fernando * I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do * Mamma Mia * Dancing Queen * Knowing Me, Knowing You * Money, Money, Money * Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight) * Take A Chance On Me * The Name Of The Game * Thank You For The Music * I Have A Dream * Angel Eyes * Does Your Mother Know * Voulez-Vous * Chiquitita * Lay All Your Love On Me * Super Trouper * On And On * The Winner Takes It All * When All Is Said And Done * The Visitors * One Of Us

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.6.09 @ 16:25pm


There's another example of ABBA's influence that has not been much recognized. ABBA were true pioneers of music video. I stand to be corrected by someone more knowledgable than I. But I can't think of any pre-80s band that so effectively used professional video production to record their top tracks and expose the band to markets they couldn't reach by touring. I think it's been generally acknowledged that this was a significant factor in the spread of the band's music outside their home base of northern Europe. I'm not sure ABBA's ever been given the credit they deserve for that, though there many, like me, who have mixed feelings about where music video has taken us in the years since.

Posted by ns_kid on Tuesday, 10.6.09 @ 17:08pm


ABBA QUEEN
Dancing Queen Killer Queen
Mamma Mia Bohemian Rhapsody
Does Your Mother Tie Your Mother
Know Down
The Name of The Game Play The Game
Fernando Innuendo
The Winner Takes It All We Are The
Champions
(Note: "Bohemian Rhapsody" has "Mamma Mia
repeated three times.)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 10.6.09 @ 22:48pm


Your list wasn't posted properly.

ABBA vs. Queen

Dancing Queen vs. Killer Queen
Mamma Mia vs. Bohemian Rhapsody
Does Your Mother Know vs. Tie Your Mother Down
The Name of the Game vs. Play the Game
Fernando vs. Innuendo
The Winner Takes It All vs. We Are The Champions

(Note: "Bohemian Rhapsody" has "Mamma Mia
repeated three times.)

I fixed it!

I forgot We Will Rock You on the list of Queen songs above.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.7.09 @ 04:33am


ABBA's musical "Mamma Mia" came out before Queen's musical "We Will Rock You" I wonder if Brian May and Roger Taylor were inspired to write a musical after the success of "Mamma Mia" "We Will Rock You" has not been made into a movie yet.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 10.7.09 @ 14:10pm


Am voting Yes on ABBA. Maybe not a typical RHOF type group given their songs and style, but deserving for sure. Also, the RHOF must need be more international. Probably can count on 1 hand the # of groups from mainland Europe that are inducted ... shouldnt be a consideration, but realistically, it probly is.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 09:31am


Personally, I've never heard of many of the groups on the ballet. But everyone knows at least 10-15 ABBA songs (even if they don't know it was ABBA who wrote and sang them). They definately should already be in, and the people who vote will have rocks in their head if they don't get ABBA in on the next vote.

It is almost as if they live on another planet or something...

Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 10.14.09 @ 15:40pm


I just read that the T.V chef Rachael Ray is demanding that Hall & Oates be elected to the Rock Hall of Fame. While I'm rather confused as to the influence of a t.v. chef, if this in fact does work, I feel I must ask this question:

Will Abba enlist the help of the Swedish Chef to petition the Hall for induction?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 10.23.09 @ 17:46pm


What ABBA not already inducted!! are they having a laugh? What more does an act need to do to get in...this group inspired many who are already inducted and again topped the charts all over the world last year ....nearly 30 years after they disbanded. I smell a rat, or at least another US centric bunch of 'ROCK' dinosaurs.... Lets face it ABBA will not show even if they were inducted, recognition or not they have always simply let the music speak. And don't we love it!

Posted by Gav on Saturday, 10.24.09 @ 11:04am


<<ABBA's musical "Mamma Mia" came out before Queen's musical "We Will Rock You" I wonder if Brian May and Roger Taylor were inspired to write a musical after the success of "Mamma Mia" "We Will Rock You" has not been made into a movie yet.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 10.7.09 @ 14:10pm>>

Mr. O'Donnell (and others), if a jukebox musical is a criterion for the RRHOF, then consider these (from Wikipedia, the musicals listed mostly use the music of a single act):

"The Night that Made America Famous" (Harry Chapin)
"Leader of the Pack" (Elie Greenwich)
"The Buddy Holly Story"
"We Will Rock You" (Queen)
"Movin' Out" (Billy Joel)
"Our House" (Madness)
"The Boys from Oz" (Peter Allen)
"Tonight's the Night" (Rod Stewart)
"Lennon"
"God Vibrations" (The Beach Boys)
"All Shook Up" (Elvis Presley)
"Jersey Boys" (Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons)
"Daddy Cool" (Boney M)
"Hot Feet" (Earth, Wind and Fire)
"The Times They Are A-Changin'" (Bob Dylan)
"The Onion Cellar" (the Dresden Dolls)

This doesn't include "Help" (the Beatles) or "Saturday Night Fever" (mostly the Bee Gees) because the music on those was introduced with the movie/musical. To the best of my knowledge, all of the above--as well as "Mamma Mia"--featured existing music.

Come to think of it, most of the artists listed already are in the Hall. Maybe a jukebox musical is an induction criteria after all.



Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 10.28.09 @ 14:11pm


Sorry, that should (OBVIOUSLY!) been "Good Vibrations." I meant no blasphemy. For those Future Rock Legends posters that are religious, I humbly apologize.

Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 10.28.09 @ 14:13pm


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2010.html

The Digital Dream Door has changed its qualifications rating for ABBA from 2 - Mostly Insignificant to 4 - Modest Accomplishments. The only act this year they did that for.

They changed their critique too: ABBA

Though accomplished musically with first rate vocal harmonies and exquisite production that made them huge international stars, ABBA nevertheless found their appeal veering more to the mainstream pop market, as evidenced by their five Top Ten Adult Contemporary hits. As rock itself had become the dominant form of popular music by the early 60's in terms of sales, the traditional pop styles receded into memory while newer pop records took on more characteristics of rock 'n' roll, causing the line between the two to blur. ABBA straddled this line throughout their run, and while their more dance oriented records offered a link to rock's origins, in the end it is telling that their immense overall popularity had far less impact or influence on rock's direction than would seem likely if they were firmly within that camp. Others may see it differently, as someone within the Nominating Committee clearly does, this being their second nomination, but there are far too many other groups of that era whose impact on rock 'n' roll was much more well defined and deserve a nod before they do. A big name overall in this case does not equate to the specific credentials necessary for induction.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.4.09 @ 05:46am


Everyone seems to forget that the coined term "Rock and Roll" was a name originally given to DANCE MUSIC..which means it would cover every genre of music...now as for ABBA...their influences are everywhere it is not denied...and lets not forget THE PIONEERS of the Musice Video Format as we know it!!! They were also superb in the areas of recording, not only having their own studio ( Polar Studio) BUT having other great artists also record there ...for example.. Led Zepplin, the Ramones, Roxy Music( who also helped ABBA out with the Voulez-vous title track),Genesis, etc....you so-called "Rock Purists" don't realize the contributions ABBA have made to ALL formats of Music.. Super Troupers forever!!

Posted by JR on Friday, 11.6.09 @ 10:33am


Everyone seems to forget that the coined term "Rock and Roll" was a name originally given to DANCE MUSIC..which means it would cover every genre of music...now as for ABBA...their influences are everywhere it is not denied...and lets not forget THE PIONEERS of the Musice Video Format as we know it!!! They were also superb in the areas of recording, not only having their own studio ( Polar Studio) BUT having other great artists also record there ...for example.. Led Zepplin, the Ramones, Roxy Music( who also helped ABBA out with the Voulez-vous title track),Genesis, etc....you so-called "Rock Purists" don't realize the contributions ABBA have made to ALL formats of Music.. Super Troupers forever!!

Posted by JR on Friday, 11.6.09 @ 10:33am

One of the BEST!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 11.6.09 @ 11:51am


Joe,

Many of the songs on "SNF" existed before the movie. Here's a list.

"Boogie Shoes" by KC & The Sunshine Band
"Disco Inferno" by The Trammps
"A Fifth Of Beethoven" by Walter Murphy
"Jive Talkin" by The Bee Gees
"K-Jee" by M.F.S.B.
More Than A Woman" by Tavares. (The Bee Gees would record their own version later)
"Open Sesame" by Kool and the Gang.
"You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees.

(Note: While John Travolta was working on his dance moves for the film, he used "YSBD". You can't work on your dance moves to a song that doesn't exist.)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 11.11.09 @ 07:35am


Aaron O'Donnell

I wasn't really aware of that; I knew the Bee Gees-written tracks (with the exception of Jive Talkin') were written for this movie; I wasn't thinking of the other songs on the album--even though I had heard them outside of SNF. Thank you for reminding me.

But the SNF soundtrack was comprised--as your posting noted--by several different acts. The ones on my jukebox musical list--including Mamma Mia--were comprised of one act (and in a few cases, the show was about that one act). The original premise of the post was that a jukebox musical was (or was not) a requirement for induction.

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 11.14.09 @ 18:18pm


Who should give the induction speech for ABBA?

The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Roxette, Ace of Base, Madonna, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Pierce Brosnan?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.22.09 @ 04:09am


Another JR posting on here? The shame! :)

Abba should be in the HOF- its music is among the best in pop.

Posted by JR on Sunday, 11.22.09 @ 12:59pm


Eazy G...I don't sweat the likes of you..."cyberpunks" are usually pretty tough talkers behind a keyboard. As far as f*g talk goes, I've found that people who go around calling others that usually have idiosyncracies about being one. Are you having trouble prying yourself "out of the closet"?

Maybe a little therapy would help, as would going back to school...if for nothing else learning some social akills!!!


Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 06:10am


That last word would be "skills"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 06:11am


It looks like I have missing out on lots of interesting things by not participating in the discussions :D

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 22:05pm


See what I mean...??? Kind of like a little chihuahua that keeps biting your heels and won't go away.

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 22:06pm


Heck, jump in sometime...we've even been known to have "intelligent" conversations...but don't tell anybody (LOL)!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 22:07pm


At least that ANON guy had some decent arguments for his cause couple years ago :D

Maybe we should listen to what Eazy G has to say about Abba's innovation and influence?

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 22:09pm


Oh, we did already. He stated, in great detail I might add;

"ABBA sucks"

Real insightful stuff...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.24.09 @ 22:12pm


"Would it be possible for me to make this clown look any more stupid?"

I don't think he can look any more stupid than how he looks now

Posted by Keebord on Wednesday, 11.25.09 @ 07:09am


The sad thing is, eazy G, or whatever he calls himself, may be an illiterate moron, but he's actually right. It's a shame he undermines his opinion with such stupidity. While we can certainly mock his phony-tough, homophobic persona, we can't ignore the elephant in the room...

Abba really is an awful act.

Posted by Ralph on Wednesday, 11.25.09 @ 08:02am


Yeah, Liam may be a completely hateful snob, but he at least is intelligent and has at least in past challenged me musically to expand horizons. Eazy G, on the other hand, is the poster child for the Pro-Choice movement.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11.25.09 @ 09:31am


Choices for giving the induction speech for ABBA:

The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Madonna, Roxette, Ace of Base, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Pierce Brosnan

I bet if ABBA does not perform the Rock Hall is going to ask the cast of the Broadway Musical Mama Mia to perform ABBA's music at the Rock Hall ceremony. That would be very un-rock hall and I bet it would make lots of hard core rock fans annoyed even more!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 12:42pm


"Choices for giving the induction speech for ABBA:

The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Madonna, Roxette, Ace of Base, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Pierce Brosnan"


I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Posted by Ralph on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 12:55pm


ABBA is not rock, but pop. Still, one has to respect their contributions and they are completely deserving of an honor such as this.

Posted by Dr. W on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 14:56pm


I have a feeling that Roy--unwittingly, perhaps--just gave the main reason for ABBA's induction: they would bring a lot of people to the ceremony if they all showed up, even more so if they could be persuaded to, you know, maybe, perhaps, perform something.

Of course, the fact that an appearance would be coveted as much as it is says a lot about ABBA's fame--over twenty five years after they last recorded anything as a group--and their worthiness for this honor.

As for any act being considered pop (or country, or rap, or anything else) not being worthy of the Hall of Fame, rock and roll was actually something of a mixture of Irish country and black (African American) rhythm and blues, among other types of music. The fact that the music has since branched out into so many sub-categories doesn't mean that a representative from any of those sub-categories isn't worthy of induction. IMHO, ABBA is a worthy addition to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 18:11pm


I don't have a problem with ABBA being inducted... I think it's wonderful to honor those who made rock'n'roll a viable commercial format (assuming the music itself wasn't completely crappy, because, let's face it, you still need money to survive, even if you're an intangible concept like "rock'n'roll") as well as those who elevated it as an art form.

ABBA was in a three-way tie this year for which act on the ballot was my personal favorite, in terms of my listening pleasure (tied with the Hollies and Darlene Love), so I'm glad they're in for that reason... and for my job, my station plays ABBA on the weekends, so it gives me something to talk about on air, so from a professional standpoint, I'm also glad they're in. However, I'd honestly place them as probably the second least deserving of those on this year's ballot, just above LL Cool J.

For me, the order went: Stooges, KISS, Darlene Love, Genesis, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Hollies, Jimmy Cliff, Laura Nyro, Chantels, Donna Summer, ABBA, LL Cool J. And of all those, LL Cool J's the only one whose merits I question in terms of deserving it. So, since he's not in this year, I'm happy for the most part with this crop... I really wanted to see Darlene Love make it this year though... the year they sentenced Phil Spector being the same year they announce the induction for one of the people he most grievously cheated. It would have been epic. Oh well, with Springsteen in her corner, she's sure to get in eventually. I can be happy in that regard anyway.

But yay for ABBA. I'm happy for them.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 18:38pm


Poor Ralph: His worldview shaken yet again. Whether an act performs pop, rock, or predominantly in some other genre is irrelevant. Eligibility for the HOF is based on influence and significance and on this front ABBA was arguably more deserving than virtually any of the other nominees. As the first non-US/UK act to achieve lasting and broad international success they opened the door to countless other performers from Europe and around the globe. On a second count too they qualify in my view: They were the first act to greatly expand their fan base by effectively using produced music video.

Posted by Scott on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 03:36am


http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/04/09/rolling-stones-list-of-the-25-undisputed-guilty-pleasure-bands/

ABBA is the first group from Rolling Stone Magazine's Guilty Pleasures List to be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

1. Rush
2. E.L.O.
3. Journey
4. ABBA
5. Chicago
6. Boston
7. Foreigner
8. Bread
9. Bon Jovi
10. New Edition
11. The Monkees
12. Motley Crue
13. STYX
14. Eddie Money
15. Simply Red
16. Kelly Clarkson
17. America
18. Wham
19. R.E.O. Speedwagon
20. Poison
21. Lionel Richie
22. Kansas
23. Air Supply
24. Hall & Oates
25. Britney Spears

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 16:18pm


<<ABBA is the first group from Rolling Stone Magazine's Guilty Pleasures List to be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.>>

Now that they have made the Hall, who should we put on the list in ABBA's place? Perhaps the Trans-Siberian Orchestra?

Posted by Joe on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 22:16pm


Did you know ABBA's eponymous third album, which contained "Mamma Mia" was released on April 21, 1975, seven months before Queen's "A Night At the Opera" was released. Maybe Freddie Mercury was hooked on ABBA's "Mamma Mia" so much that he decided to incorporate the phrase into "Bohemian Rhapsody"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 13:40pm


Nice one Aaron, I never thought of that

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 14:26pm


In January 1976, "Mamma Mia" knocked "Bohemian Rhapsody" out of number one on the British charts. I find it interesting that song that inspired Freddie Mercury to use the phrase knocked his song out of number one.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 05:07am


Not only did they have phenomenal record sales on the strength of only 8 studio albums...but they did this WITHOUT a lot of support/sales from the US in the 70's. I'd say that's rather impressive. The US have only shown their support in sales in the last decade - ever since Mamma Mia came out. ABBA rules!

Posted by Ron on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 15:18pm


Most of the photos of ABBA I've seen the members standing order as "BAAB" with the two men, the B's, on the outside and the two women, the A's on the inside. Did you know the famous couch cover on Crosby, Stills & Nash's debut album has the members sitting order as "Nash,Stills & Crosby" The B's are the songwriting nucleus of ABBA.while the A's sang the songs. Are the girls too shy to appear on the outside of the group's photos? I've never seen an ABBA photo with the right billing order, A.B.B.A

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 22:02pm


You're right, Aaron, the band did seem to favour having the guys on the outside in most of their photo shoots though the order changed up frequently: sometiems Bjorn on the left, sometimes Benny; sometimes the guys standing with their (onetime) partners, sometimes apart. It wasn't universal however. On their eight original studio album covers, they appear in an A-B-B-A formation on one: Waterloo. On Voulez-Vous they stand B-B-A-A. On The Album, which features artistic renderings, not a photo, they're shown B-A-B-A. On The Visitors, post-divorces, they appear A-A-B-B, and quite far apart. The remaining four albums feature B-A-A-B groupings.

I'm not sure there is any particular rationale for these groupings other than aesthetic considerations. Of course ABBA partisans seem to enjoy speculating about how these photos reflect the state of the band members' personal relationships at the times they were taken.

Posted by Scott on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 03:41am


I was remiss in overlooking what many consider the greatest ABBA cover, the original Greatest Hits collection from 1975. While primarly a compilation -- it did feature one new track that went on to become one of the band's biggest hits, Fernando -- its cover photo is an iconic wrap-around shot, in the classic B-A-A-B configuration that Aaron mentions. Shot by Swedish photographer Bengt Malmqvist, it features the band sharing a park bench with Benny and Anni-Frid on one end passionately kissing; Bjorn sits with legs crossed on the opposite end casually reading while Agnetha sits looking forlorn and maybe a little horny in between. That photo, and others from that shoot, are some of the best photos taken of the band, in my opinion.

Posted by Scott on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 04:06am


Choices for giving the induction speech for ABBA:

Queen, The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Madonna, Roxette, Ace of Base, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Pierce Brosnan

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 10:46am


My choice for anyone giving induction speeches for anybody...

"WHO CARES??????"

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 11:15am


Gitarzan, you read my mind

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 11:40am


Did you know that both ABBA and Pink Floyd had lyrical ties with Vrra Lynn? The song "Hasta Manana" on "Waterloo" has the refrain "Hasta Manana, Till we meet again/Don't know where/Don't know when" Five years later on "The Wall" Roger Waters asks if anybody remembers Vera Lynn in the song "Vera" On "Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980-81" the opening track "MC Atmos" has Vera Lynn's "We'll Meet Again" is softly playing over the PA system in Earl's Court just before Gary Yudman enters and makes his speedh. Also on "Waterloo" there is a song called "What About Livingstone?" which is about people who thought the astronauts were crazy to go to the moon, and the song's protagonist asks "What about Livingstone? What about all those men who sacrificed their lives to lead the way?" Five and a half years earlier The Moody Blues released "Dr. Livingstone, I Presume" on their album "In Search Of The Lost Chord" which also tells of Captain Scott's exploits in the Antarctic and Columbus's voyage around the world.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 22:52pm


ABBA: 1977 - Knowing Me, Knowing You

Genesis: 1978 - Follow You Follow Me

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.23.09 @ 07:14am


Waterloo sounds like Surf music!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.23.09 @ 07:40am


What do ABBA, Fleetwood Mac and The Mamas And The Papas all have in common aside from being RRHOF inductees?
They were COED groups that had members romantically involved with each other. In ABBA's and the M & P's case, the band they consisted of two male-female couples throughout their tenures. In Fleetwood Mac's case, Christine McVie joined Mac for the 1971 album "Future Games" and Christine and John were the only couple in the band from 1971 to 1974. Then Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined in December of 1974 to record Fleetwood Mac's eponymous album (sometimes referred to as "Fleetwood Mac '75 or The Fleetwood Mac White Album) Mac's "Rumours" chronicles the band members' divorces of breakups. Stevie Nicks wrote the song "Dreams" about Lindsey while Lindsey wrote "Secondhand News" and "Go Your Own Way" about Stevie. Nicks also wrote "i Don't Want To Know" but Lindsey Buckingham is actually the lead singer or dominant vocalist on that song. Bjorn Ulvaeus wrote "The Winner Takes It All" about his divorce from Agnetha, but it's Agnetha who sings it. If the Mamas and the Papas used the members' initials to create a name like ABBA did, the only pronounceable word they could come up is DEPP:

D=(Denny) Doherty
E=(Cass) Elliot
P=(John) Phillips
P=(Michelle) Phillips

Johnny Depp was 2 and a half years old when the Mamas And The Papas released "California Dreamin'"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 12.24.09 @ 02:38am


Interesting thesis, Aaron. I've often found the parallels between the Mac and ABBA intriguing. As I noted in an earlier post, I was struck by the reflected emotions in Buckingham's "I Know I'm Not Wrong" and B&B's "When All is Said and Done".

For the record, Bjorn has insisted "The Winner Takes it All" was not about his and Agnetha's divorce. He was quoted as saying "There were no winners in our divorce."

Posted by ns_kid on Friday, 12.25.09 @ 04:55am


Well, tonight being the night of the ball dropping, I think quoting 2010 Inductee ABBA seems appropriate:

Happy New Year

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12.31.09 @ 21:30pm


Ok, y'know what? I posted two other sets of lyrics... title alone won't/shouldn't be enough here. Congrats again to ABBA, and as they'd sing it:

No more champagne
And the fireworks are through
Here we are, me and you
Feeling lost and feeling blue
It's the end of the party
And the morning seems so grey
So unlike yesterday
Now's the time for us to say...

Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have a vision now and then
Of a world where every neighbour is a friend
Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have our hopes, our will to try
If we don't we might as well lay down and die
You and I

Sometimes I see
How the brave new world arrives
And I see how it thrives
In the ashes of our lives
Oh yes, man is a fool
And he thinks he'll be okay
Dragging on (hoo-hoo), feet of clay (hoo-hoo)
Never knowing he's astray
Keeps on going anyway

Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have a vision now and then
Of a world where every neighbour is a friend
Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have our hopes, our will to try
If we don't we might as well lay down and die
You...
And I

Seems to me now
That the dreams we had before
Are all dead, nothing more
Than confetti on the floor
It's the end of a decade
In another ten years time
Who can say (hoo-hoo) what we'll find (hoo-hoo)
What lies waiting down the line
In the end of eighty-nine

Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have a vision now and then
Of a world where every neighbour is a friend
Happy new year
Happy new year
May we all have our hopes, our will to try
If we don't we might as well lay down and die
You...
And I

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12.31.09 @ 21:37pm


There has been the predictable anti-pop outrage from some rock purists over ABBA's induction to the HoF. As others have noted here, ABBA's success in breaking the stranglehold of the British and American music establishment is validation enough. But there is another instructive achievement by the band, in its rare and unusual 1990s revival. As rock critic Elisabeth Vincentelli recounts in her excellent 33-1/3 dissection of ABBA's Gold album, ABBA was all but forgotten as a seventies relic when Polygram released Gold in 1992. (93 in the States.) Gold was a solid compilation of 19 tracks, all of which had been number one or close to it somewhere on the globe. Perhaps more than any other pop/rock compilation, Gold came closest to defining a band's career and demonstrated that these tracks aged much better than most of their contemporaries.

Gold was followed a year later by More Gold, another excellent compilation of less well-known singles and significant album tracks, then in 1994 by two cult film soundtracks, Muriel's Wedding and Priscilla Queen of the Desert, both of which featured ABBA prominently. Of course it was three years later that former Clash fanatic Catherine Johnson started work on the book for the musical Mamma Mia!, the success of which marked ABBA's final transformation, like the title character in Muriel, from uncool to hip.

Why the 90s were ripe for an ABBA renaissance is unclear though of course musical trends are always cyclical and revivals tend to happen at 15 to 20-year intervals (e.g., American Graffiti and Happy Days in the 70's; That 70's Show and Wedding Singer in the the 90s). Why ABBA's has been particularly enduring likely speaks to the superior songcraft in Ulvaeus' and Andersson's deceptively complex compositions and arrangements: They have clearly stood the test of time.

As for Gold, the album's influence is beyond debate. It reached number one in at least seven countries; in the UK it's been in the top 25 for two decades.

Posted by Jamie R on Monday, 01.4.10 @ 03:14am


The chance that Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida will agree to perform together at the HoF induction are somewhere between slim and none. But if they were to reform for the occasion it seems to me the only song they need to perform is Hole in Your Soul from The Album (1977). Surely it's the ultimate musical finger to the sanctimonius bastards who have dismissed the band since day one:

"ABBA, the songs you sing are too romantic...and when you want the truth they only spit in your eye...they're only telling you lies."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVAn_v9U02w


Posted by Scott on Wednesday, 01.6.10 @ 21:15pm


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-2010.html

FROM THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

ABBA

Their success is unquestioned as they're one of the biggest selling artists of all-time. Their skill is widely acknowledged, both as songwriters and studio practitioners, with their signature stacked vocals and production sheen standing out. Their influence is pointed to by many, with focus on their dance tracks. But just where in the rock pantheon do they fit? Rock's boundaries are broad, as they deservedly should be, and so there may be a place for them within the larger scope of things, but ABBA were appealing far more to a mainstream pop audience that disdained rock 'n' roll and were seen by many as the antithesis to rock when they were riding high. Considering the derth of disco artists from that era as well as the black vocal harmony groups that preceeded them, this is a bewildering choice, even if by virtue of the caucasion voting body it is also a predictable one.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 16:59pm


That's right folks... when all else fails, play the race card. It's because of the White Devil that ABBA is in.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 18:24pm


Influential producer Brian Eno (Roxy Music, David Bowie, U2, Coldplay) profiled January 17 in British daily The Guardian, speaks of his long-standing love of ABBA. Admitting he rarely spoke of his admiration during the 70's, when ABBA was not considered "cool", he said that changed with the release of Fernando (1977) and he couldn't keep the secret any longer.

"What we really got me with "Fernando" was what the lower singer [Frida] was doing. (...) I spent months trying to learn that. It's so obscure what she's doing and very hard to sing. And then from being a sceptic I went over the top in the other direction. I really fell for them."

Fernando was ABBA's second-biggest hit, reaching number one in at least 11 countries.

Posted by ns_kid on Monday, 01.18.10 @ 03:29am


ABOUT TIME!!!

Posted by scott on Wednesday, 01.20.10 @ 05:00am


there was something very special about abba.
bjorn and benny are brilliant musicians.
delighted they are getting in to the hall of fame.
sadly, i doubt the 4 members will get together
(or even show)and perform... agnetha is terrified of flying. a simple ballad with their haunting
vocals would be enough to make me smile. they are
older and may not be up to voulez-vous or mama mia. but i do think they owe us abba fans something new instead of cd compilations year after year. i saw abba in boston in the late 70's and when they sang "chiquita" you couldn't hear a pin drop. refreshing and gorgeous harmonies.
love and miss them. congrats to being inducted....
at last!

Posted by carl on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 17:53pm


Universal Music presented Bjorn Ulvaeus and Frida Lyngstad with an award two days ago recognizing ABBA's sales of 375 million units. Universal claims it's the largest such award the music industry has ever presented.

Posted by ns_kid on Thursday, 01.28.10 @ 03:16am


I keep hearing people dismiss ABBA as light and commercial. It's easy to mindlessly parrot criticism. If you truly take the time to pick apart their music, especially their later (and even Benny's post-ABBA) music, you would discover that their music enters a relm that reflects that of a great classical music composer more than that of a pop/rock songwriter.

Posted by David on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 00:25am


Genesis and ABBA are being inducted the same year and Genesis has a song called Abacab.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 04:48am


Thanks for the totally useless comment, Roy.

Posted by Milestones on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 06:52am


The chance that Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida will agree to perform together at the HoF induction are somewhere between slim and none. But if they were to reform for the occasion it seems to me the only song they need to perform is Hole in Your Soul from The Album (1977). Surely it's the ultimate musical finger to the sanctimonius bastards who have dismissed the band since day one:

"ABBA, the songs you sing are too romantic...and when you want the truth they only spit in your eye...they're only telling you lies."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVAn_v9U02w

Posted by Scott on Wednesday, 01.6.10 @ 21:15pm

Nice, thanks for the link! Whoever called them lightweights or said they didn't know how to rock needs to watch that. There are many acts I would've had in ahead of them, but if part of my campaign for Thin Lizzy is them putting Ireland on the map then certainly being the first non-British/American/Canadian act to break out counts for a lot. And it's definitely a sign of respect when Zeppelin wants to use your studio. I heard rumours that James Hetfield, U2, Robert Plant, Ozzy and Yngwie Malmsteen have all listed them as a guilty pleasure. I know for sure Gene Simmons has spoken highly of them, and apparently Elvis Costello has. I could nitpick about whether they deserve it or not (I haven't really listened to them beyond "Happy New Year", "Hole in Your Soul" for the first time just now and "Mamma Mia"), but there are worse choices for sure. Well done you four.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 03.14.10 @ 18:46pm


abba

pop hall of fame - yes .
music hall of fame - yes.

there alot of inductees - that just don t feel like rock and roll -


just my opinion

Posted by golfer11 on Tuesday, 03.16.10 @ 12:39pm


The fact that Faith Hill sang only one song in tribute to ABBA, and a diva-ish kind of song, tells me she couldn't handle the majority of the ABBA catalog on any given day.

Congrats, ABBA. A questionable call to some, but I'm happy for ya.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 03.16.10 @ 15:07pm


Thanks for the youtube link. A wonderful ABBA live performance. The band in fact had a wonderful rep as a rockin live act and one of the best concert tickets of the late 70s. A rock purist friend of mine confirms. He was dragged kicking and screaming to an ABBA concert at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto in 79 and came away saying that, to this day, it's still one of the best concerts he's ever seen. The ABBA in Concert DVD is taken from that tour.

Watching ABBA's HOF induction last night I was struck by how genuinely moved Benny and Frida appeared to be in the company of so many of their musical inspirations. I thought Benny did an excellent job of putting ABBA in context. The first act to break out from outside the American and British music establishment, and with a unique sound: A mixture of American rock, European folk and a host of other influences, unlike anything that had been heard before.

Posted by ns_kid on Tuesday, 03.16.10 @ 20:38pm


I just watched Faith Hill's performance of "The Winner Takes It All" and I don't think her voice suits any of ABBA's songs. I think Amy Grant's voice would be more suitable for ABBA's songs. I think if Mrs. Vince Gill were at the ceremony more ABBA songs would heve been performed.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 10:22am


Thanks for finally acknowledging the non-anglo-saxon music world. Can we now please have Kraftwerk next, at long last?

Posted by denyo on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 19:21pm


"They're basically the Spice Girls of the 70's. I think that sums it up pretty nicely."


You mean sums it up ignorantly? You would be right then. The spice girls? hahahaha.

ABBA is ART, those angelic voices, the great melodies they wrote THEMSELVES prove that they are one of the most important groups. Spice girls were nothing but a fad, but the enduring power of ABBA's music prove that it's a classic.


LOL what's next?? linkin park is the 00's romanoes. Oh wait, you probably like linkin park, lol.

Posted by Fred on Sunday, 03.28.10 @ 19:21pm


Thanks for finally acknowledging the non-anglo-saxon music world. Can we now please have Kraftwerk next, at long last?

Posted by denyo on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 19:21pm

True. I want New Order in, and I know that a huge part of their sound is thanks to Kraftwerk (admittedly by Bernard Sumner.)

Posted by Sam on Monday, 03.29.10 @ 15:02pm


Genesis' Phil Collins produced Frida's post-ABBA solo album "Something's Going On" in 1982/3. How appropriate both groups entered the Hall together on the same night. Wonder if they reminisced at all after the party.

Posted by Ron on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 19:40pm


People who say they didn't deserve to be in because its a pop group... well later on in their career they turned into more of a rock group.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 05.11.10 @ 14:26pm


From The Digital Dream Door

ABBA

Their second time on the ballot, indicating that someone on the stagnant Nominating Committee has a perverse desire to see them elected. Though accomplished musically, ABBA nevertheless did little more than define the sterile white bread usurpation of rock's claim to the dance floor for those unable, or unwilling, to venture to the disco. Rock 'n' roll's biggest cultural obstacle by the mid-70's was the growing schism between rock's black origins and its white reinterpretation and the subsequent commercial and critical focus on the latter which came at the expense of its true legacy. ABBA was the extreme example of this split, a Swedish group so far removed from rock's creative wellspring that few at the time, or in the years since, even considered them to be part of the style at all. Oddly enough this type of middle of the road uber pop is exactly what the Hall Of Fame has rightly shunned for years, as fans of Neil Diamond and Linda Ronstadt will attest, and so it would seem that a group with five Top Ten Adult Contemporary hits to their name is hardly cutting edge enough to warrant serious consideration. All of which means that once again the Hall faces two embarrassing questions - are they more comfortable selecting a Caucasian group with negligible qualifications rather than offering up the many deserving black contemporaries still waiting for a nomination, and secondly, are the unchecked members of the committee putting forth names on the ballot based largely on personal appeal as opposed to using objective standards? In the case of ABBA it appears both questions have troubling answers.

Qualifications: 2 - Mostly Insignificant

Though accomplished musically with first rate vocal harmonies and exquisite production that made them huge international stars, ABBA nevertheless found their appeal veering more to the mainstream pop market, as evidenced by their five Top Ten Adult Contemporary hits. As rock itself had become the dominant form of popular music by the early 60's in terms of sales, the traditional pop styles receded into memory while newer pop records took on more characteristics of rock 'n' roll, causing the line between the two to blur. ABBA straddled this line throughout their run, and while their more dance oriented records offered a link to rock's origins, in the end it is telling that their immense overall popularity had far less impact or influence on rock's direction than would seem likely if they were firmly within that camp. Others may see it differently, as someone within the Nominating Committee clearly does, this being their second nomination, but there are far too many other groups of that era whose impact on rock 'n' roll was much more well defined and deserve a nod before they do. A big name overall in this case does not equate to the specific credentials necessary for induction.

Qualifications: 4 - Modest Accomplishments

Their success is unquestioned as they're one of the biggest selling artists of all-time. Their skill is widely acknowledged, both as songwriters and studio practitioners, with their signature stacked vocals and production sheen standing out. Their influence is pointed to by many, with focus on their dance tracks. But just where in the rock pantheon do they fit? Rock's boundaries are broad, as they deservedly should be, and so there may be a place for them within the larger scope of things, but ABBA were appealing far more to a mainstream pop audience that disdained rock 'n' roll and were seen by many as the antithesis to rock when they were riding high. Considering the derth of disco artists from that era as well as the black vocal harmony groups that preceeded them, this is a bewildering choice, even if by virtue of the caucasion voting body it is also a predictable one.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 19:49pm


I'm not sure why Roy felt complelled to repost the Digital Dream Door's Abba review, a year after it first appeared. But let it be said that the DDD's critique is both profoundly uninformed and entirely US-centric. Which is kind of the point: Abba's most significant accomplishment was that they were the very first European group, indeed the first group from outside the British/American music industry mainstream, to achieve major lasting international success.

Think of that: fully 20 years after the birth of rock and roll virtually nobody from outside the US, Britain or Canada had made any lasting impression on pop or rock music.

The DDD reviewer sniffs that Abba found success on Billboard's adult comtemporary chart; they had only one number one of the Hot 100. True enough, but this blithely ignores the fact that Abba scored 40 top forty hits, and 21 number ones, around the globe between 1972 and 1983. America was one of their least important territories and still is. Yet despite that lukewarm American endorsement they have sold, according Universal Music, more than 375,000,000 records.

If proving that you don't need American sales to become a success in the pop/rock world isn't enough, Abba is widely considered to be the first act to achieve global success using music video. More than six years before MTV was even thought of, it was generally accepted that Abba's videos fuelled their break out from their European base by making them superstars in Australia and otehr countries.

These are significant achievements, and they certainly justify Abba's HOF induction...even if it bruises DDD's fragile American sensibilities.

Posted by Scott on Sunday, 11.14.10 @ 07:23am


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - ABBA

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.25.11 @ 16:21pm


Can you imagine ABBA's record sales if they conquered the US the way they did the rest of the world? Michael Jackson who??

Posted by Ron on Monday, 02.21.11 @ 10:22am


You can't have Abba in the rock hall of fame. They were a pop band intended for 14 year old girls. Since they are in and talented bands such as but not limited to Doobie Brothers, Little Feat, Los Lobos, William Clarke, Paul Revere & Raiders were ignored it proves the hall is bogus.

Posted by phil on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 09:02am


if ABBA were meant for 14 year old girls then why are they one of the biggest bands ever? 14 year old girls couldn't do that.

ABBA were a much better band than any of those you just mentioned.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 09:51am


Seriously though, Andersson and Ulvaeus are two of the greatest pop songwriters ever.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 09:55am


I'm with GFW on this one. There are more ABBA songs I'd listen to than songs from all the artists you mentioned combined.

"You can't have Abba in the rock hall of fame. "

Well apparently you can. What part of "Inducted in: 2010" did you not understand?

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 14:44pm


I mean, Paul Revere? are you joking?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 14:47pm


I actually like some of Paul Revere and the Raiders' catalogue, then again I'm talking like 4 or 5 songs at the most compared to ABBA where it's probably at least like 15...

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 15:12pm


There's no reason to hate on Paul Revere And The Raiders. They actually had a bunch of good songs. Kicks, Ups And Downs, Steppin' Out, Good Thing, Hungry, Just Like Me, Indian Reservation (a cover, but still a good one), Don't Take It So Hard... even Mr. Sun, Mr. Moon and Let Me, which were spoofs of bubblegum music and blatant commercial hooking. Very solid rock and roll band that I would actually like to see get in.

But ABBA's really good too. I like almost every song on Gold, and most of the ones on More Gold.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 15:33pm


Kicks and Indian Reservation are good but hall worthy? nope.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 16:06pm


Au contraire. I think they are quite Hall-worthy. Kicks and Indian Reservation aren't even their best songs either. They're not the most pressing omission, but they would be a good call if they got in.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 04.7.12 @ 22:14pm


Zumba is a plus, it's really exhilarating along with a great workout. You simply will not lose interest together with the set. Supplies four different DVD's out there. It's my job to opt for the 20

Posted by pwnhq on Saturday, 05.12.12 @ 17:49pm


First off, the real reward for a band is how many fans it has and how it is regarded by them. ABBA has a world-wide fan base that still buys four million records a year. That speaks volumes about the appeal and catchiness of their music (and is independent of whether one likes their style of music or not).

Re the induction into the Hall of Fame question, everyone's got their own theory about what is important for a band to qualify. Of them, influence has to be one of the most important. So what legacies did ABBA leave? Creation of the video, breathing life into euro-disco and taking beautiful music to its absolute zenith (in our lifetimes I'll bet anyway). To me, ABBA are the only pop band whose songs you could use the world magnificent to describe (eg, Dancing Queen and The Winner Takes It All). While the Beatles, say, had their pop masterpieces (basically a static frame that is filled with a perfect song), ABBA were unique in being able to dispense with that template and basically create their own frame (high, low, middling or wide-ranging) for their songs. Their mastery of vertical dynamic ranging in their music and singing is unique and, alone, a legacy that warrants their induction.

My theory is that ABBA aren't in the HoF because they were so good they are impossible to properly categorise. In other words, no one's figured out an induction speech yet that actually does the band justice!

Posted by RobP on Saturday, 06.1.13 @ 01:32am


...
But they are in!

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 06.1.13 @ 03:32am


Reflecting that it was 40 years ago tonight that ABBA won the 1974 Eurovision Song Contest. After toiling in relative Scandinavian obscurity for over three years, within weeks of Eurovision they had the #1 hit in the UK and almost all of Europe and a top ten hit in the US and much of the rest of the globe.

When ABBA was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2010, some American rock purists were dismayed but the HoF was quick to note that it was the votes of other musicians that put ABBA there. Other artists -- like Bono, Pete Townshend, Elvis Costello, Peter Cetera, Madonna, Chris de Burgh and many others -- have long known what self-styled critics have overlooked: that the music Ulvaeus and Andersson wrote, arranged and produced with such care is absolutely timeless. In the words of the former Rolling Stone writer Tom Moon, ABBA's performances were "models of impeccable craft".

Even if Benny, Bjorn, Frida and Agnetha are not together tonight, I hope wherever they are they raise a toast to a truly unique and monumental achievement, one that was advanced in so many ways by Waterloo's win at Eurovision 40 years ago.

Posted by rfj120 on Sunday, 04.6.14 @ 20:18pm


From the Boston Globe, April 3, 2014: Abba’s groundbreaking pop still soars

Abba purists (and you know who you are) will argue that the beginnings of the band can be traced back to the 1970 Swedish hit “Hej Gamle Man!” It was the first time that Agnetha Fältskog, Björn Ulvaeus, Benny Andersson, and Anni-Frid Lyngstad recorded together in a studio. The record was a moderate success in the Swedish charts.

I prefer to think that Abba as we know it began on April 6, 1974, when the band appeared at the Eurovision Song Contest and began its satin-paved path to world domination. On the 40th anniversary of the Eurovision win, the quartet’s achievements are almost too staggering to list. Abba has sold over 380 million albums and singles worldwide. “Mamma Mia!,”a jukebox musical featuring the songs of Abba, has grossed more than $2 billion since its West End debut in 1999, and a 2008 film adaptation made millions more. Last year, Abba: The Museum, opened in Stockholm. There are omnipresent rumors of an Abba reunion. A hopeful fan base silently prays that perhaps their heroes may perform together once more.

But back to that April night in 1974. Fältskog and Lyngstad smiled brightly as they sang the bubblegum delight “Waterloo.” Track down the video on YouTube and, as cornball as it sounds, these women were radiant. Everyone in the band was in love, and the neo-wall-of-sound that Andersson and Ulvaeus crafted created an unavoidable avalanche of happiness. It’s no wonder that competitor Olivia Newton-John didn’t stand a chance.

Here is the disconnect that many experience with Abba. The four didn’t just produce hits such as “Knowing Me, Knowing You,” “Take a Chance on Me,” and “Lay All Your Love on Me,” they changed the pop music landscape forever. Go ahead and roll your eyes. Once you get past the clothes — and that’s a lot to get past — the members of Abba were pioneers. They slipped on their platform boots and smashed walls that previously prevented international bands from achieving world success.

Previous to Abba, there were few non-native English-speaking acts that regularly charted outside of their countries. But Abba’s manager Stig Anderson had his sights on America and England, and the band switched its musical language from Swedish to English. Would there have been an Ace of Base or a Robyn without Abba?

Last year, the Atlantic published the story “Why is Sweden so good at pop music?” in honor of Ace of Base’s 20th anniversary. The piece, by Nolan Feeney, points out that in May 2012, half of the songs in the Billboard Hot 100 were written or produced by Swedes. Currently, Sweden is the third largest music exporter of music, behind the US and the UK.

But the answer to “Why is Sweden so good at pop music?” has little to do with Ace of Base and everything to do with Andersson and Ulvaeus’s meticulous talents for writing perfect melodies. The two labored over songs in the studio while experimenting with technique (they once recorded a guitar riff in a swimming pool). They let the women take the spotlight, and grinned in the background on their “American Bandstand” appearances. Perhaps they were smiling because they were earning enough krona to buy their own island?

Today, Swedish super-producers such as Max Martin, who has written 17 Billboard number one singles, can thank Abba for writing a guidebook on how to produce the perfect pop confection.

You can also thank Abba for pioneering the music video. There were music videos in one form or another prior to Abba — most notably films in the Scopitone jukeboxes of the 1960s. With a global fan base, Abba was unable to continually tour the world and write and record new music. The answer was promotional films shot by director Lasse Hallstrom (who later directed “The Cider House Rules” and “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape”) that could be shown everywhere. The video for “Waterloo” features a series of quick zoom shots on each member of the band (later seen in every 1980s video on MTV). The video is so iconic that portions were later re-created in the film “Muriel’s Wedding.” Erasure’s video for its cover of Abba’s “Take a Chance on Me” was almost a shot-for-shot re-creation of the original.

“We were very lucky,” Ulvaeus said in a 1994 interview. “Because of his work we had major success in far-off places were we couldn’t go but could send the videos.”

This week’s 40th anniversary includes the reissue of the “Waterloo” album, along with parties at Abba: The Museum, an ABBAversary at the Brighton Dome (where the band won Eurovision), and a party at London’s Tate Modern museum. “Waterloo” was a watershed moment in pop history. It’s time to set aside those images of sparkly harem pants and elephantine bell bottoms and give Abba another well-deserved listen.

Further Abba listening:

The cover versions

Erasure, “Take a Chance on Me”

The Czars, “Angel Eyes”

Nashville Train, “Waterloo”

Information Society, “Lay All Your Love on Me”

The Wondermints , “Knowing Me, Knowing You”

Salma & Sabina, “Pehli Pehli Preet (Super Trouper)”

Laura Branigan, “The Winner Takes It All”

by Christopher Muther

Posted by ns_kid on Sunday, 04.6.14 @ 20:26pm


Your forgetting the A*Teens (A 4 piece Euro-Teen pop act from Sweden) covers... They later branched out to become an ABBA influenced act themselves instead of an ABBA cover band...

Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 05.13.14 @ 18:29pm


I don't understand... Why ABBA and not Joy Division, Jane's Addiction, The Cure, Sonic Youth, Pixies, etc.

Posted by BulmaPunkRocker on Sunday, 07.6.14 @ 21:57pm



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/abba-plan-previously-unimagined-virtual-reality-experience-w446845

ABBA Plan 'Previously Unimagined' Virtual Reality Experience
"We're inspired by the limitless possibilities of what the future holds and are loving being a part of creating something new," Benny Andersson says

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.27.16 @ 04:08am


Roy, sorta sounds like they might use holograms, like they did with Tupac.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.27.16 @ 08:01am


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