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Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 6
Bob Dylan 5
The Drifters 5
The Beach Boys 4
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 4
Dion (Belmonts) 3
Aretha Franklin 3
Marvin Gaye 3
Jackie Wilson 3
The Coasters 1
Four Seasons 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
B.B. King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Link Wray 1

Those who have previously voted and voted for 1988:

Gassman
Philip
Sam
Steve Z
Jonny
Brain

People who still have votes left:

mrxyz - This is who I have you down for:

1) Peter Paul and Mary
2) The Surfaris
3) Paul Revere & The Raiders
4) The Drifters
5) The Kingsmen
6) Annette Funicello
7) ?

You still get one more vote!

Bill G. - This is who I have you down for:

1) The Miracles
2) The Four Seasons
3) Jackie Wilson
4) Marvin Gaye
5) Dion & The Belmonts
6) Little Anthony & The Imperials
7) ?

You still get one more vote!

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Greg
Paul in KY
Gitarzan
Donnie
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 4
Alan Freed 4
Sam Phillips 4
Berry Gordy 3
Phil Spector 3
Dick Clark 2
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Ahmet Ertegun 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 4
Jimmie Rodgers 4
Hank Williams 4
Louis Jordon 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Woody Guthrie 1
Les Paul 1
Frank Sinatra 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 19:55pm

Huge thanks for setting this section up for us! It will make it much easier to get things done with our own area.

Would you mind adding The Crickets to Buddy Holly and the Famous Flames to James Brown? I feel like that was the consciences of our voting group.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 21:15pm

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 6
Bob Dylan 5
The Drifters 5
The Beach Boys 4
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 4
Dion (Belmonts) 3
Aretha Franklin 3
Marvin Gaye 3
Jackie Wilson 3
The Coasters 1
Four Seasons 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
B.B. King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Link Wray 1

Those who have previously voted and voted for 1988:

Gassman
Philip
Sam
Steve Z
Jonny
Brain
mrxyz

People who still have votes left:

Bill G. - This is who I have you down for:

1) The Miracles
2) The Four Seasons
3) Jackie Wilson
4) Marvin Gaye
5) Dion & The Belmonts
6) Little Anthony & The Imperials
7) ?

You still get one more vote!

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Greg
Paul in KY
Gitarzan
Donnie
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 4
Alan Freed 4
Sam Phillips 4
Berry Gordy 3
Phil Spector 3
Dick Clark 2
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Ahmet Ertegun 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 4
Jimmie Rodgers 4
Hank Williams 4
Louis Jordon 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Woody Guthrie 1
Les Paul 1
Frank Sinatra 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gasman on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 21:17pm

Hank Ballard $ The Midnighters for me.

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 22:10pm

Here are my votes...

Performers

1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. Bob Dylan
4. B.B. King
5. Muddy Waters
6. The Coasters
7. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles


Non-Performers

1. Alan Freed
2. Sam Phillips
3. Leonard Chess
4. Ahmet Ertegun
5. Berry Gordy
6. Phil Spector


Early Influences


1. Louis Armstrong
2. Frank Sinatra
3. Robert Johnson
4. Les Paul
5. Jimmie Rodgers
6. Louis Jordan

Posted by Donnie on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 23:15pm

My 1988 Performer Votes:

The Temptations
The Beatles
Dion & Belmonts
Otis Redding
The Beach Boys
Marvin Gaye
Bob Dylan

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 07:03am

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 8
Bob Dylan 7
The Beach Boys 6
The Drifters 5
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Marvin Gaye 4
Aretha Franklin 3
Jackie Wilson 3
The Coasters 2
Four Seasons 2
B.B. King 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

Those who have previously voted and voted for 1988:

Gassman
Philip
Sam
Steve Z
Jonny
Brain
mrxyz
Bill G.
Donnie
Paul in KY

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Greg
Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 5
Alan Freed 5
Sam Phillips 5
Berry Gordy 4
Phil Spector 4
Dick Clark 2
Ahmet Ertegun 2
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 5
Jimmie Rodgers 5
Louis Jordon 4
Hank Williams 4
Jimmy Yancey 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Les Paul 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Woody Guthrie 1


Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 07:27am

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 8
Bob Dylan 7
The Beach Boys 6
The Drifters 5
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Marvin Gaye 4
-----------------------------
Aretha Franklin 3
Jackie Wilson 3
The Coasters 2
Four Seasons 2
B.B. King 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Greg
Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 5
Alan Freed 5
Sam Phillips 5
Berry Gordy 4
Phil Spector 4
Dick Clark 2
Ahmet Ertegun 2
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 5
Jimmie Rodgers 5
Louis Jordon 4
Hank Williams 4
Jimmy Yancey 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Les Paul 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Woody Guthrie 1


Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 20:38pm

1. The Beatles

2. Bob Dylan

3. Jackie Wilson, he was so close last time. Let's not forget about him. In other words, do a little bit of research on him and you will see he deserves induction as soon as possible.

4. The Beach Boys

5. B.B. King

6. The Temptations

7. Smokey Robinson/the Miracles

really surprised there's not more conversation here, nobody wants to campaign for people to get in?

Posted by Greg on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 22:41pm

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 9
Bob Dylan 8
The Beach Boys 7
The Drifters 5
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 6
-----------------------------
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Marvin Gaye 4
Jackie Wilson 4
-----------------------------
Aretha Franklin 3
B.B. King 3
The Coasters 2
Four Seasons 2
The Temptations 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 5
Alan Freed 5
Sam Phillips 5
Berry Gordy 4
Phil Spector 4
Dick Clark 2
Ahmet Ertegun 2
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 5
Jimmie Rodgers 5
Louis Jordon 4
Hank Williams 4
Jimmy Yancey 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Les Paul 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Woody Guthrie 1


Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 23:19pm

I am sorry Greg, but imo Marvin Gaye > Jackie Wilson. Now don't get me wrong, I really like Jackie Wilson. If he doesn't get in this time around I will defiantly vote for him in the next group. Yet while I like Jackie Wilson, I LOVE Marvin Gaye. As I stated in my original explanations, I think he should have gotten in the last time. To me Marvin Gaye is Soul.

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 23:49pm

Gassman, I totally understand where your coming from, but I gotta disagree. I respectfully have to say in my opinion Jackie Wilson > Marvin Gaye. I realize a large part of it is personal preference: I like Marvin Gaye, I LOVE Jackie WIlson. To me, Sam Cooke & Jackie Wilson are soul. And Jackie Wilson's impact was simply several years earlier than Gaye's, which I think should give him a little priority. Also, Jackie Wilson had an incredible influence (for the great Michael Jackson, among many others)

Posted by Jonny on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 00:15am

The great Jackie Wilson in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEfuE8Pw4U

Posted by Jonny on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 00:19am

Marvin Gaye probably made the best R&B album with "What's Going On" which addressed the issues of the Vietnam War and injustice. These issues used to be primarily reserved for folk and rock, but Marvin brought it R&B/Soul. Also it is considered to be Soul's first concept album.

Also he gave the greatest performance of the Star Spangled Banner (Jimi comes close):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 00:46am

Great points! You make a very valid argument.

Posted by Jonny on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 01:06am

I missed out on this whole enterprise, did you guys only intend on voting for 1986 and 1987?

Posted by Bassmaster on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 06:13am

My Non-Performer votes:

Leonard Chess
Berry Gordy
Alan Freed
Sam Phillips
Dick Clark
Ahmet Ertegun

Early Infuences:

Robert Johnson
Hank Williams
Jimmy Rodgers
Woody Guthrie
Les Paul
Louis Jordon

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 06:18am

I think the reason there hasn't been alot of campaigning yet is because we all have alot of agreement (right now). Let's get 10 or 15 'years' down the pike & I think you'll see alot more politicking & so forth.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 06:21am

1988 Induction

1. Bob Dylan
2. The Beatles
3. Aretha Franklin
4. Beach Boys
5. The Temptations
6. BB King
7. Marvin Gaye
8. Smokey Robinson

Posted by kyle on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 06:49am

Bassmaster - 1986 and 1987 are the only two years that we have done so far. We are currently voting for 1988. You input is always welcome.

kyle - Do you want your vote to be just for Somkey Robinson or would be ok if I gave it to The Miracles. I have placed it with The Miracles because I figure you would want to vote to be more valuable with The Miracles. Let me know!


Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 10
Bob Dylan 9
The Beach Boys 8
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 7
The Drifters 5
Marvin Gaye 5
---------------------------
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
B.B. King 4
Jackie Wilson 4
---------------------------
The Temptations 3
The Coasters 2
Four Seasons 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Duane Eddy 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Paul Revere & The Raiders 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 6
Alan Freed 6
Sam Phillips 6
Berry Gordy 5
Phil Spector 4
Dick Clark 3
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Wolfman Jack 2
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 6
Jimmie Rodgers 6
Louis Jordon 5
Hank Williams 5
Les Paul 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 08:18am

Alright I'll contribute to this, do I need to # the performers? If so, let me know

Performers

The Beach Boys
The Drifters
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
The Four Seasons
The Temptations
Duane Eddy
Paul Revere & The Raiders

Non-Performers

Phil Spector
Leonard Chess
Alan Freed
Sam Philips
Wolfman Jack

Influences

Robert Johnson
Hank Williams
Johnny Cash
Link Wray

Posted by Bassmaster on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 09:29am

My mistake on Johnny Cash, looks like he's already in for 1987

Posted by Bassmaster on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 09:31am

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 10
The Beach Boys 9
Bob Dylan 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 8
The Drifters 5
Marvin Gaye 5
---------------------------
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
B.B. King 4
The Temptations 4
Jackie Wilson 4
---------------------------
Four Seasons 3
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 7
Alan Freed 7
Sam Phillips 7
Berry Gordy 5
Phil Spector 5
Dick Clark 3
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Wolfman Jack 3
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 7
Jimmie Rodgers 6
Hank Williams 6
Louis Jordon 5
Les Paul 3
T-Bone Walker 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 09:56am

Here are the rules for non-preformers, influences, and ties:

As an add-on to the Rock Hall Revisited, I thought I would be cool if we did a Non-Performers and Influences section. Non-Performer category is the same as the real Hall of Fame. You are allowed to vote for someone to be in the Non-Performer category if they are also a performer and vice versa (example: Carol King, Brian Eno). The influence category is different from the real Hall of Fame’s “early influence” category because it doesn’t have to be “early.” You can vote on anyone before or after the creation of Rock and Roll that you don't considered to be Rock but you beleived influenced it. Also you can vote for someone to be a early influence that is/was a main performer and vice versa (example: Muddy Waters). The first time around you can vote for six for each and the ones with the six best vote totals will get in. In the next round of voting, you will only vote for two.

Voting procedure in case of a tie:

- Voting is extended for 24 hours
- Only those who voted in the first round of voting can vote in the tie breaker
- If it is between two artists/bands just vote for the one you want in over the other. If there is still a tie after the voting, I will make an executive decision.
- If there is a three way tie or greater, you will rank the tied artists/bands in the order of preference. One with the most first place votes will get in and the second most and so on and so forth depending on how big the tie is. If there is another tie in this round of voting, I will use the second and third place votes to break it. If after all that there is still a tie (which there shouldn't be), I will again make an executive decision.
- If a tie happens I will reiterate these rules again to make sure people know what to do
- If there is a tie in the non-preformer of influence voting they all get in.

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 10:05am

kyle - Do you want your vote to be just for Somkey Robinson or would be ok if I gave it to The Miracles. I have placed it with The Miracles because I figure you would want to vote to be more valuable with The Miracles. Let me know!

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 10:06am

1 vote for Doug and The Slugs. (just kidding).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 10:31am

Hi all, thought I'd join in with my votes. Judging by the current standings it seems pretty clear whose going to get in (Beatles, Dylan, Beach Boys) so I'll concentrate on some other important names. Also, I missed this somewhere but what's the limit for performers? 7 or 8?

Performers:

The Drifters
The Four Seasons
The Temptations
The Platters
B.B. King
The Four Tops
Tommy Roe

Non-Performers:

Phil Spector
Dick Clark
Wolfman Jack

Influences:

John Lee Hooker
Muddy Waters
Robert Johnson
Jimmie Rodgers
Hank Williams
T-Bone Walker

Posted by Keebord on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 10:56am

Keebord - Its 7 so you're good.

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 10
The Beach Boys 9
Bob Dylan 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 8
The Drifters 6
---------------------------
Marvin Gaye 5
B.B. King 5
The Temptations 5
---------------------------
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
Jackie Wilson 4
Four Seasons 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
The Four Tops 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
The Platters 1
Otis Redding 1
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
The Temptations 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 7
Alan Freed 7
Sam Phillips 7
Phil Spector 6
Berry Gordy 5
Dick Clark 4
Wolfman Jack 4
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Lou Chudd 1
Bernie Lowe 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 8
Jimmie Rodgers 7
Hank Williams 7
Louis Jordon 5
T-Bone Walker 4
Les Paul 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Louis Armstrong 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Muddy Waters 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 11:05am

Thanks for the clarification

Posted by Keebord on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 11:07am

"...So I'll concentrate on some other important names" - Keebord. Nice plan, I'll do the same. This is getting interesting, can't wait to see what happens in a few weeks come circa 1995. Anyways, here are my votes:

Performers:

The Drifters
The Temptations
Four Seasons
The Platters
Link Wray
Duane Eddy
Cliff Richard & The Shadows

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Wolfman Jack
Phil Spector
Bernie Lowe

Influences:

Muddy Waters
Howlin' Wolf
Robert Johnson
T-Bone Walker
Hank Williams
George Jones
Willie Nelson
Hank Williams

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 11:40am

Hey The Drummer, you only get 6 votes for Influences. Just tell me the 2 you don't want me to count

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 11:55am

Alright sorry about that, might as well take off Robert Johnson then (he's pretty much guaranteed in) and Willie Nelson

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 12:04pm

The Drummer - I didn't see that you had Hank Williams twice. So I gave you Willie Nelson back. If you want that vote to be for Robert Johnson just tell me.

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 10
The Beach Boys 9
Bob Dylan 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 8
The Drifters 7
The Temptations 6
---------------------------
Four Seasons 5
Marvin Gaye 5
B.B. King 5
---------------------------
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
Jackie Wilson 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
The Platters 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
The Four Tops 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 11
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
classicrocker

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 7
Alan Freed 7
Sam Phillips 7
Phil Spector 7
Berry Gordy 5
Wolfman Jack 5
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Bernie Lowe 2
Lou Chudd 1
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 8
Hank Williams 8
Jimmie Rodgers
Louis Jordon 5
T-Bone Walker 5
Les Paul 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Muddy Waters 2
Louis Armstrong 1
John Lee Hooker 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Howlin' Wolf 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 14:04pm

Hey Gassman. Sorry about that. Thanks for noticing the mistake. Better proofread next time!

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 14:30pm

Is there a particular reason why you guys don't have a sideman category? I was also wondering, out of curiosity, I saw '86 and '87 were already voted on, roughly how many people were involved in voting?

Posted by Joshua on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 15:07pm

Hi Joshua!

The main reason why there isn't a sideman category is that I am attaching the sidemen to the artists that they are most famously attached as they get inducted. I did it for 1986 but I have yet to do it for 1987.

I believe that there were about 12-14 voters in each of the pervious two years. You are welcome to vote for 1988 if you wish to.

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 16:13pm

I placed the limit to 20 people per inductee (including the main solo man. I still have to do it for 1987 (school is pretty busy right now :( )

Here are those who where attached with the 1986 induction class. (If you name any more that I am missing that would be great):

Chuck Berry (guitar and vocals)

Johnnie Johnson (piano)
Lafayette Leake (piano)
Willie Dixon (bass)
Ebby Hardy (drums)
Fred Below (drums)

Elvis Presley (vocals and rhythm guitar)

Scotty Moore (guitar)
Bill Black (bass)
D.J. Fontana (drums)
Floyd Cramer (piano)
Gordon Stocker (backing vocal)
Hugh Jarrett (backing vocal)
Ray Walker (backing vocal)
Neal Mathews Jr. (backing vocals)
Hoyt Hawkins (backing vocals)
Hal Blaine (drums)
James Burton (guitar)
Jerry Scheff (bass)
Emory Gordy, Jr. (bass)
John Wilkinson (rhythm guitar)
Larry Muhoberac (piano)
Ronnie Tutt (drums)
Glen Hardin (piano)

Little Richard (vocals and piano)

Lee Allen (saxophone)
Alvin “Red” Tyler (saxophone)
Frank Fields (guitar and bass)
Edgard Blanchard (guitar)
Earl Palmer (drums)

Ray Charles (vocals and piano)

Darlene McCrea (backing vocals)
Margie Hendricks (backing vocals)
Patricia Lyles (backing vocals)
Gwendolyn Berry (backing vocals)
(Need help, can’t find much. He used a lot of different people in his band/orchestra.)

Buddy Holly and the Crickets (guitar and vocals)

Niki Sullivan (guitar)
Joe Mauldin (bass)
Jerry Alison (drums)

Jerry Lee Lewis (piano and vocals)

(Need help, can’t find anything.)

James Brown and the Famous Flames (vocals)

Bobby Byrd (piano, organ and backing vocals)
Bobby Bennet (backing vocals)
“Baby Lloyd” Stallworth (backing vocals)
Johnny Terry (backing vocals)
William “Boosty” Collins (bass)
Phelps “Catfish” Collins (guitar)
John “Jabo” Starks (drums)
Fred Wesley (trombone)
Maceo Parker (saxophone)
St. Clair Pinckney (saxophone)
(may be more?)

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 16:18pm

Gassman, are you sure Duane Eddy is at 2 votes and not 3?

Posted by Jonny on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 19:02pm

Thanks Gassman and good luck with school

I'll vote for the following in the performer category:

The Beach Boys
The Miracles w/ Smokey Robinson
The Drifters
The Temptations
Four Seasons
Bobby Darin
Ritchie Valens

Also throw in a vote for Wolfman Jack for me in the Non-performers category. Have a good day everybody! Lookin' forward to see how this turns out and I'll be voting for '89 for sure

Posted by Joshua on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 19:08pm

Jonny - Yeah you are right, that will be fixed

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beach Boys 10
The Beatles 10
Bob Dylan 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Drifters 8
The Temptations 7
Four Seasons 6
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Marvin Gaye 5
B.B. King 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
Jackie Wilson 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
The Platters 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Bobby Darin 1
The Four Tops 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 11
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
The Surfaris 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
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Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 7
Alan Freed 7
Sam Phillips 7
Phil Spector 7
Berry Gordy 5
Wolfman Jack 5
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Bernie Lowe 2
Lou Chudd 1
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 8
Hank Williams 8
Jimmie Rodgers
Louis Jordon 5
T-Bone Walker 5
Les Paul 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Muddy Waters 2
Louis Armstrong 1
John Lee Hooker 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Howlin' Wolf 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 21:46pm

For James Brown & the Famous Flames, you have to have the dude listed who would drape the capes around James & try to lead him off the stage, etc. He had a very solemn way of doing it that just worked perfectly (I thought).

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 06:28am

Contrary to popular belief , THE FAMOUS FLAMES are a SINGING GROUP, not a "band" (although strangely, today, people are even calling singing groups "bands". THE FAMOUS FLAMES are , Bobby Bennett,Lloyd Stallworth,(who replaced original member Johnny Terry) and the group's founder, the late great Bobby Byrd (who,in theory, could be inducted separately , apart from the group as a sideman, due to his many accomplishments .) He did a lot of the songwriting with James, actually DISCOVERED James Brown and got him out of prison, and had many solo hits apart from James.He also sang duets with him after The Flames disbanded, on bit hits like SEX MACHINE, MAKE IT FUNKY, and GET INVOLVED.
James Brown's BAND MEMBERS are NOT a part of THE FAMOUS FLAMES singing group. Musicians such as MACEO PARKER, FRED WESLEY,JABO STARKS and SINCLAIR PINKNEY are part of THE JAMES BROWN BAND, NOT the Famous Flames.Neither is the show's MC,Danny Ray (the guy with the cape, who was James M.C. for over 30 years.

The FAMOUS FLAMES sang with James on almont all of his early hits,(James was considered a member of the group as well), such as PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, TRY ME, THINK, I DON'T MIND, BEWILDERED, OH BABY,DON'T YOU WEEP,SHOUT AND SHIMMY, I'LL GO CRAZY, and many more. These songs were not just "James Brown" songs . They were recorded by JAMES BROWN and THE FAMOUS FLAMES, and the GROUP's NAME was right on the record label with his.He was a member of The Flames for 13 years, 1955-1968.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 07:49am

So, remember, THE FAMOUS FLAMES were a VOCAL GROUP: BOBBY BYRD,BOBBY BENNETT, LLOYD STALLWORTH,AND JOHNNY TERRY. The rest of those guys were just members of THE JAMES BROWN BAND.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 07:53am

Performers

Chicago
Elton John
Leonard Cohen
Kool & The Gang
Blood, Sweat & Tears
The Kingston Trio
The Surfaris

Non-Performers

John Simon
Quincy Jones
Bernie Taupin
David Foster
James William Guercio

Early Influence

Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra
Bing Crosby
Dizzy Gillespie
Oscar Peterson

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 10:30am

Roy - These are the people you can vote for:

Here are the most likey candidates that were first eligible in 1988:

The Beach Boys
The Beatles
Glen Campbell
The Dave Clark Five
Dick Dale
Bob Dylan
The Four Seasons
Bobby Fuller Four
Albert King
The Kingsmen
Patti LaBelle
Little Eva
Peter, Paul & Mary
Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs
The Surfaris
Booker T. & The M.G.’s

Here are those that are still eligible:

1986

The “5” Royals
Johnny Ace
Paul Anka
Little Anthony & The Imperials
Lavern Baker
Hank Ballard
Harry Belafonte
Bobby ‘Blue’ Bland
Pat Boone
The Big Bopper
Ruth Brown
Dave Brubeck
Solomon Burke
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio
Jerry Butler
The Chantels
Patsy Cline
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Ornette Coleman
John Coltrane
Bing Crosby
King Curtis
Bobby Darin
Miles Davis
Eric Dolphy
Bill Evans
Ella Fitzgerald
The Five Keys
Serge Gainsbourg
Stan Getz
Dizzy Gillespie
The Drifters
Duane Eddy
The Five Saints
The Flamingos
The Four Tops
The Harptones
Johnny Hallyday
Herbie Hancock
John Lee Hooker
The Isley Brothers
Jan & Dean
Little Willie John
George Jones
Carole King
The Kingston Trio
Gladys Knight & The Pips
Brenda Lee
Peggy Lee
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
Clyde McPhatter
Charles Mingus
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson
Thelonious Monk
The Moonglows
Ricky Nelson
Charlie Parker
Junior Parker
The Penguins
Carl Perkins
Gene Pitney
The Platters
Ester Phillips
Lloyd Price
Jimmy Reed
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Sonny Rollins
Big Mamma Thornton
Big Joe Turner
Ike & Tina Turner
Conway Twitty
Neil Sedaka
Del Shannon
Frank Sinatra
The Staple Singers
Huey “Piano” Smith and The Clowns
The Supremes
Ritchie Valens
The Ventures
Gene Vincent
Billy Ward & The Dominos
Muddy Waters
Mary Wells
Chuck Willis
Jackie Wilson

1987

Judy Collins
Dion
Lee Dorsey
Etta James
Ben E. King
Slim Harpo
Martha & The Vandellas
The Marvelettes
Willie Nelson
Otis Redding
Paul Revere & The Raiders
The Shirelles
Nancy Sinatra
The Temptations
Mary Wells

You can vote for artists/bands that are not on this list, but they have eligible. A lot of the acts you voted for are not eligible until later years. The same goes for some of your non-preformers. The 25 year limit is not as set in stone for non-preformers, but I would like to keep it close.

So if you would revote, that would be great!

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 11:08am

Dylan
Beatles
Booker T. & The M.G.’s
Albert King
Surfaris

Non-Performers
Wolfman jack

Early Influence
Ella Fitzgerald

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 11:40am

Seriously, Roy? ......seriously?

Posted by Jonny on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 11:41am

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 11
The Beach Boys 10
Bob Dylan 10
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Drifters 8
The Temptations 7
Four Seasons 6
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Marvin Gaye 5
B.B. King 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Aretha Franklin 4
Jackie Wilson 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
The Platters 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Bobby Darin 1
The Four Tops 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Otis Redding 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
L-7
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Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess 7
Alan Freed 7
Sam Phillips 7
Phil Spector 7
Wolfman Jack 6
Berry Gordy 5
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 3
Bernie Lowe 2
Lou Chudd 1
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 8
Hank Williams 8
Jimmie Rodgers
Louis Jordon 5
T-Bone Walker 5
Les Paul 3
Jimmy Yancey 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
Muddy Waters 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Ella Fitzgerald
John Lee Hooker 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Howlin' Wolf 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 12:08pm

Sorry L-Z, forgot to take your name off. Will done next time

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 12:31pm

I mean L-7, I am sorry I keep doing that!

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 12:35pm

Wow, great idea Gassman. I think I'll come here more often again, only because of this.

1. The Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. The Beach Boys
4. Aretha Franklin
5. Marvin Gaye
6. Otis Redding
7. Ike & Tina Turner

Non-Performers
1. Sam Philips
2. Alan Freed
3. Ahmet Ertegün
4. John Hammond
5. Jerry Wexler
6. Berry Gordy

Early Influences
1. Robert Johnson
2. Hank Williams
3. Louis Jordan
4. Jimmy Yancey
5. Howlin' Wolf
6. Les Paul

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 14:25pm

Here are my 2 cents

Performers:

The Beach Boys
The Drifters
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
Big Joe Turner
Carl Perkins
Ricky Nelson

Non-Performers:

Phil Spector
Wolfman Jack
John Hammond
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Lou Chudd
Sam Philips

Influences:

Robert Johnson
Hank Williams
Howlin' Wolf
Muddy Waters
T-Bone Walker
John Lee Hooker

Posted by Milestones on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 14:41pm

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 12
The Beach Boys 12
Bob Dylan 11
The Drifters 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
Four Seasons 7
The Temptations 7
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Marvin Gaye 6
Aretha Franklin 5
B.B. King 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Jackie Wilson 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
The Four Tops 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 1
Eddie Cochran 1
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Carl Perkins 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 1
Muddy Waters 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

Gitarzan
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Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 9
Alan Freed 8
Phil Spector 8
Leonard Chess 7
Wolfman Jack 7
Berry Gordy 6
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 4
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 2
Jerry Wexler 1

Influences:

Robert Johnson 10
Hank Williams 10
Jimmie Rodgers 7
Louis Jordon 6
T-Bone Walker 6
Les Paul 4
Jimmy Yancey 4
Muddy Waters 3
Howlin' Wolf 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 15:12pm

-Beatles
-Johnny Burnette & the Rock & Roll Trio
-Gene Vincent
-Carl Perkins
-Eddie Cochran
-Temptations
-Jackie Wilson

Early Influences:
-Charlie Christian
-Hank Williams
-Les Paul

Non-Performers:
-Lieber & Stoller
-Alan Freed
-Sam Phillips

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 18:39pm

Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 13
The Beach Boys 12
Bob Dylan 11
The Drifters 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Temptations 8
Four Seasons 7
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Marvin Gaye 6
Aretha Franklin 5
B.B. King 5
Jackie Wilson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
The Coasters 2
Duane Eddy 2
The Four Tops 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 2
Eddie Cochran 2
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Carl Perkins 2
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 2
Muddy Waters 1

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

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Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 10
Alan Freed 9
Phil Spector 8
Leonard Chess 7
Wolfman Jack 7
Berry Gordy 6
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 4
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 3
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Wexler 1

Influences:

Hank Williams 11
Robert Johnson 10
Jimmie Rodgers 7
Louis Jordon 6
T-Bone Walker 6
Les Paul 5
Jimmy Yancey 4
Muddy Waters 3
Howlin' Wolf 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Charile Christian 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 19:06pm

(My bad on the ordering)

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

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Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 13
The Beach Boys 12
Bob Dylan 11
The Drifters 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Temptations 8
Four Seasons 7
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Marvin Gaye 6
Aretha Franklin 5
B.B. King 5
Jackie Wilson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Duane Eddy 3
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 2
The Coasters 2
Eddie Cochran 2
The Four Tops 2
Carl Perkins 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Muddy Waters 1

Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 10
Alan Freed 9
Phil Spector 8
Leonard Chess 7
Wolfman Jack 7
Berry Gordy 6
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 4
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 3
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Wexler 1

Influences:

Hank Williams 11
Robert Johnson 10
Jimmie Rodgers 7
Louis Jordon 6
T-Bone Walker 6
Les Paul 5
Jimmy Yancey 4
Muddy Waters 3
Howlin' Wolf 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Charile Christian 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 19:08pm

The Four Seasons

Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 22:25pm

Sideman Hal Blaine

Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 22:26pm

mrxyz - You have already used up your seven votes and we are not doing a sideman category as I am attaching sidemen to the artists that they played with.

Also just a heads up to all of you out there where ever you are, that we are less than 24 hours to the end of voting. If things remain the same this would be the 1988 induction class:

The Beatles 13
The Beach Boys 12
Bob Dylan 11
The Drifters 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Temptations 8
Four Seasons 7

Yet these artist are still within striking distance if they can string together enough late votes:

Marvin Gaye 6
Aretha Franklin 5
B.B. King 5
Jackie Wilson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 01:15am

9 hour warning!

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 11:10am

Non-Performers
Phil Spector
Jerry Wexler
Leonard Chess
Barry Gordy, Jr.
Leiber & Stoller

Early Influence
Robert Johnson
Les Paul
Louis Jordan
Hank Williams
Jimmie Rodgers
Bill Monroe

Posted by Jonny on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 13:08pm

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

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Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 13
The Beach Boys 12
Bob Dylan 11
The Drifters 9
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 9
The Temptations 8
Four Seasons 7
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Marvin Gaye 6
Aretha Franklin 5
B.B. King 5
Jackie Wilson 5
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Duane Eddy 3
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 2
The Coasters 2
Eddie Cochran 2
The Four Tops 2
Carl Perkins 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 2
Link Wray 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Muddy Waters 1

Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 10
Alan Freed 9
Phil Spector 9
Leonard Chess 8
Berry Gordy 7
Wolfman Jack 7
Dick Clark 4
Ahmet Ertegun 4
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 4
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Wexler 2

Influences:

Hank Williams 12
Robert Johnson 11
Jimmie Rodgers 8
Louis Jordon 7
Les Paul 6
T-Bone Walker 6
Jimmy Yancey 4
Muddy Waters 3
Howlin' Wolf 3
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Charile Christian 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Bill Monroe
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 13:19pm

1. Marvin Gaye
2. Aretha Franklin
3. BB King
4. Jackie Wilson
5. The Beatles
6. The Beach Boys
7. Bob Dylan



Non-Performers:

Phil Spector
Dick Clark
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Lieber & Mike Stoller
Sam Phillips
Alan Freed



Influences:


Hank Williams
Robert Johnson
Jimmie Rodgers
Louis Jordon
Jimmy Yancey
Muddy Waters

Posted by Casper on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 14:57pm

Greetings everybody!! Hope everything's been going well. Haven't visited this site in ages and glad to see there's still people making positive contributions to the discussions. I think this voting idea is a great concept Gassman and I would like to place my votes for the performers:

The Beatles
The Beach Boys
The Drifters
The Four Seasons
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Screamin' Jay Hawkins

Thanks and I'll be back

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 15:06pm

Looks like I've got one more performer left, let's go for Link Wray.

And I'll vote for the other categories too

Non-Performers:

Sam Philips
Phil Spector
Leiber & Stoller
Berry Gordy
Wolfman Jack
Alan Freed

Influences

Muddy Waters
Hank Williams
Robert Johnson
T-Bone Walker
Howlin' Wolf

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 15:10pm

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

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Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 15
The Beach Boys 14
Bob Dylan 12
The Drifters 10
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 10
Four Seasons 8
The Temptations 8
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Marvin Gaye 7
Aretha Franklin 6
B.B. King 6
Jackie Wilson 6
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Duane Eddy 3
Link Wray 3
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 2
The Coasters 2
Eddie Cochran 2
The Four Tops 2
Carl Perkins 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
Screamin' Jay Hawkins 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Muddy Waters 1

Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 12
Alan Freed 11
Phil Spector 11
Leonard Chess 8
Berry Gordy 8
Wolfman Jack 8
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 6
Dick Clark 5
Ahmet Ertegun 5
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Wexler 2

Influences:

Hank Williams 13
Robert Johnson 13
Jimmie Rodgers 9
Louis Jordon 8
T-Bone Walker 7
Les Paul 6
Muddy Waters 5
Jimmy Yancey 5
Howlin' Wolf 4
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Charile Christian 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Bill Monroe
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 15:49pm

3 and a half hours left to vote!

The Beatles 15
The Beach Boys 14
Bob Dylan 12
The Drifters 10
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 10
Four Seasons 8
The Temptations 8

That's our Performers class of 1988 right now.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 16:37pm

The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Four Seasons
Beach Boys
Marvin Gaye
Aretha Franklin
B.B. King

Posted by DK Slimms on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 17:13pm

People who have previously voted, but have yet to vote for 1988:

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Vote Totals:

Performers:

The Beatles 16
The Beach Boys 15
Bob Dylan 13
The Drifters 10
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson 10
Four Seasons 9
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Marvin Gaye 8
The Temptations 8
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Aretha Franklin 7
B.B. King 7
Jackie Wilson 6
Dion (Belmonts) 4
Duane Eddy 3
Link Wray 3
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio 2
The Coasters 2
Eddie Cochran 2
The Four Tops 2
Carl Perkins 2
The Platters 2
Otis Redding 2
Paul Revere & The Raiders 2
The Surfaris 2
Gene Vincent (The Blue Caps) 2
Little Anthony & The Imperials 1
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 1
Bobby Darin 1
Dick Dale 1
Annette Funicello 1
Screamin' Jay Hawkins 1
John Lee Hooker 1
Albert King 1
The Kingsmen 1
Ricky Nelson 1
Peter Paul and Mary 1
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Tommy Roe 1
Jack Scott 1
The Supremes 1
Booker T. & The M.G.'s 1
Ike & Tina Turner 1
Big Joe Turner 1
Ritchie Valens 1
Muddy Waters 1

Non-Performers:

Sam Phillips 12
Alan Freed 11
Phil Spector 11
Leonard Chess 8
Berry Gordy 8
Wolfman Jack 8
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller 6
Dick Clark 5
Ahmet Ertegun 5
Lou Chudd 2
John Hammond 2
Bernie Lowe 2
Jerry Wexler 2

Influences:

Hank Williams 13
Robert Johnson 13
Jimmie Rodgers 9
Louis Jordon 8
T-Bone Walker 7
Les Paul 6
Muddy Waters 5
Jimmy Yancey 5
Howlin' Wolf 4
Woody Guthrie 2
Frank Sinatra 2
John Lee Hooker 2
Louis Armstrong 1
Charile Christian 1
Ella Fitzgerald 1
George Jones 1
Bill Monroe
Willie Nelson 1
Link Wray 1

Voting will close on Friday 4/16 at 10 PM Eastern

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 18:49pm

For 1988:


The Beatles

The Beach Boys

Smokey/Miracles

Dion/Belmonts

Four Seasons

BB King

The Temptations

Posted by classicrocker on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 19:55pm

Voting is closed!!!

Here is the 1988 induction class:

The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
Bob Dylan
Four Seasons
The Miracls w/Smokey Robinson
The Temptations

Non-Performers:

Leonard Chess
Alan Freed
Berry Gordy, Jr.
Sam Phillips
Phil Spector
Wolfman Jack

Influences:

Robert Johnson
Louis Jordon
Les Paul
Jimmie Rodgers
T-Bone Walker
Hank Williams

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:12pm

Let the voting begin for 1989!

Here are the most likey candidates that were first eligible in 1989:

Paul Butterfield Blues Band
The Chiffons
The Crystals
Neil Diamond
Darlene Love
The Impressions
Loretta Lynn
Manfred Mann
Dolly Parton
Wilson Pickett
Righteous Brothers
The Ronettes
The Rolling Stones
Rufus Thomas
Dionne Warwick
Stevie Wonder

Here are those that are still eligible:

1986

The “5” Royals
Johnny Ace
Paul Anka
Little Anthony & The Imperials
Lavern Baker
Hank Ballard
Harry Belafonte
Bobby ‘Blue’ Bland
Pat Boone
The Big Bopper
Ruth Brown
Dave Brubeck
Solomon Burke
Johnny Burnette & The Rock N Roll Trio
Jerry Butler
The Chantels
Patsy Cline
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Ornette Coleman
John Coltrane
Bing Crosby
King Curtis
Bobby Darin
Miles Davis
Eric Dolphy
Bill Evans
Ella Fitzgerald
The Five Keys
Serge Gainsbourg
Stan Getz
Dizzy Gillespie
Duane Eddy
The Five Saints
The Flamingos
The Four Tops
The Harptones
Johnny Hallyday
Herbie Hancock
John Lee Hooker
The Isley Brothers
Jan & Dean
Little Willie John
George Jones
Carole King
The Kingston Trio
Gladys Knight & The Pips
Brenda Lee
Peggy Lee
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
Clyde McPhatter
Charles Mingus
Thelonious Monk
The Moonglows
Ricky Nelson
Charlie Parker
Junior Parker
The Penguins
Carl Perkins
Gene Pitney
The Platters
Ester Phillips
Lloyd Price
Jimmy Reed
Cliff Richard & The Shadows
Sonny Rollins
Big Mamma Thornton
Big Joe Turner
Ike & Tina Turner
Conway Twitty
Neil Sedaka
Del Shannon
Frank Sinatra
The Staple Singers
Huey “Piano” Smith and The Clowns
The Supremes
Ritchie Valens
The Ventures
Gene Vincent
Billy Ward & The Dominos
Muddy Waters
Mary Wells
Chuck Willis
Jackie Wilson

1987

Judy Collins
Dion
Lee Dorsey
Etta James
Ben E. King
Slim Harpo
Martha & The Vandellas
The Marvelettes
Willie Nelson
Otis Redding
Paul Revere & The Raiders
The Shirelles
Nancy Sinatra
Mary Wells

1988

Glen Campbell
The Dave Clark Five
Dick Dale
Bobby Fuller Four
Albert King
The Kingsmen
Patti LaBelle
Little Eva
Peter, Paul & Mary
Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs
The Surfaris
Booker T. & The M.G.’s

Voting will close at 10 PM Eastern on Friday April 23rd!

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:18pm

My vote (reasoning will come later):

The Coasters
Marvin Gaye
Aretha Franklin
Otis Redding
Rolling Stones
Jackie Wilson
Stevie Wonder

Non-Performers:
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller

Influences:
Muddy Waters
Jimmy Yancey

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:22pm

Also I have found it really hard to find sidemen information for some of the artists we have already inducted. So I decided to bite the bullet and add a Sideman category. Like for the Non-Performers and Influence I would normally like people to only vote for 2 with only 2 getting in, but we need to catch up. So you get to vote for 8 this time around and 8 get in.

Here is my vote:

Bill Black
Hal Blaine
Floyd Cramer
D.J. Fontana
James Jamerson
Johnnie Johnson
King Curtis
Scotty Moore

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:29pm

Alright here are my votes

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
The Dave Clark Five
The Platters
The Four Tops
Paul Revere & The Raiders
The Crystals
Dion & The Belmonts

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Dick Clark
Ahmet Ertegun

Influences:

Muddy Waters
Howlin' Wolf
John Lee Hooker
Bill Monroe

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:35pm

And please add Billy Preston to the sideman category from me thanks!

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:40pm

Mr. Octagon - From now on you only get two votes for the non-performers and influences categories. But you get 8 for sidemen! So take one away for non-performers, two away for influences, and add seven for the sidemen.

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 20:57pm

WOOHOO!! We got the Four Seasons in on the first try!

Ok, for '89...

Dion (& The Belmonts)
Gene Vincent (& the Blue Caps)
Duane Eddy
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Marvin Gaye
Aretha Franklin

Non-Performers:
Bernie Lowe
Jerry Lieber & Mike Stoller

Early Influences:
Charlie Christian
Ravens

Side-Men:
Hal Blaine
Scotty Moore
D.J. Fontana
Bill Black
Earl Palmer
Floyd Cramer
Johnnie Johnson
James Burton

Posted by Philip on Friday, 04.16.10 @ 23:31pm

1) The Rolling Stones
2) Stevie Wonder
3) The Coasters!!!
4) Jackie Wilson
5) Dion & the Belmonts

I need to ponder my last 2 votes a little longer, if its alright (But I definitely submit those 5 votes!)

Posted by Jonny on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 00:39am

Alright here's my updated list then:

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Dick Clark

Influences:

Muddy Waters
Howlin' Wolf

Sidemen:

Billy Preston

(more sidemen to come sometime in the future)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 07:04am

89?????
Gosh Stevie Wonder came out in 1963 with Finger Tips It went # 1 and the Surfaris Wipe Out was #2 both held the top 10 chart for most of the year it seemed lol

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 07:43am

So are you saying we should just let them in because YOU think they should be? That's why we're voting...seems not everyone here is as crazy about the Surfaris as you are...

GEEZ...!!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 08:59am

It's a good thing that The Miracles got inducted into SOMEBODY'S Hall of Fame ! Thanks to all of you who voted for them.

My choices for 1989:
1.Bobby Darin
2.The Four Tops
3.Little Anthony & The Imperials
4.Dion & The Belmonts
5.Jackie Wilson
6.Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
7.Gene Chandler

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 10:10am

I AGREE about Jackie Wilson! "Me Excitement" IS one of the all time GREATS !! HE RANKS IN THE TOP 5 OF any list of THE GREATEST SINGERS OF ALL TIME !! Unmatched power and vocal range!! Also one of the most DYNAMIC performers and Greatest Showmen of all time. Sam Cooke couldn't touch JACKIE WILSON for POWER OR RANGE !!! Over 50 chart hits , 2 songs in The Grammy Hall of Fame, and in Rolling Stone's list of The 500 Greatest Songs of ALL TIME.... one of Michael Jackson's greatest influences...and of numerous other singers as well.
Smokey Robinson called him " The most dynamic singer and performer I have EVER seen!"

Berry Gordy (who wrote many of his early hits),agreed, saying , "Unfortunately for some, he set the standard in what I'd expect in singers FOREVER."

Bobby Womack said, He was the REAL Elvis Presley....and Elvis took a lot from him too !!

Ed Sullivan was so impressed with Jackie, he invited him to appear on his show EIGHT times !!!

Michael Jackson said: "Some people are followers and some people make the path and are pioneers. I'd like to say that Jackie Wilson was a wonderful entertainer."

All of these endorsements about the same person have to mean something. #68 on Rolling Stone's list of The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time, JACKIE DESERVES TO BE IN !!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 10:54am

Sorry . I meant "Mr Excitement" (Jackie's well deserved nickname)
Double RRHOF inductee Sammy Strain (The Imperials and The O'Jays) said: "The only person who could follow Jackie Wilson was the janitor cleaning the stage after the concert !!"

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 10:58am

Performers:
1. The Rolling Stones
2. Aretha Franklin
3. Marvin Gaye
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Otis Redding
6. Ike & Tina Turner
7. The Supremes

Non-Performers:
1. George Martin
2. Ahmet Ertegün

Early Influences:
1. Jimmy Yancey
2. Howlin' Wolf

Sidemen:
1. King Curtis
2. James Jamerson
3. Benny Benjamin
4. Chet Atkins
5. Johnnie Johnson
6. James Burton
7. Scotty Moore
8. Earl Palmer

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 11:56am

Not sure where Gassman is but how the votes for '89 shaping up so far? I think it's something like this but correct me if I'm wrong

Performers:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (3)
The Coasters (3)
Jackie Wilson (3)
Marvin Gaye (2)
Aretha Franklin (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Stevie Wonder (2)
Otis Redding (1)
The Platters (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Paul Revere & The Radiers (1)
The Crystals (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Gene Chandler (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (2)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Dick Clark (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (1)
Howlin' Wolf (1)
Charlie Christian Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Scotty Moore (2)
Billy Preston (1)
D.J. Fontana (1)
James Jameson (1)
King Curtis (1)
Earl Palmer (1)
James Burton (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 12:02pm

I posted this after The_Claw, here's the most updated one:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (4)
The Coasters (3)
Jackie Wilson (3)
Marvin Gaye (3)
Aretha Franklin (3)
The Four Tops (2)
Stevie Wonder (3)
Otis Redding (2)
The Platters (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Paul Revere & The Radiers (1)
The Crystals (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
The Supremes (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Dick Clark (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (2)
Howlin' Wolf (2)
Charlie Christian Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Scotty Moore (3)
Billy Preston (1)
D.J. Fontana (1)
James Jamerson (2)
King Curtis (2)
Earl Palmer (2)
James Burton (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 12:06pm

Now it's in order of votes but still needs to be put in alphabetical order! Gassman's much better at this than me

Performers:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (4)
The Coasters (3)
Jackie Wilson (3)
Marvin Gaye (3)
Aretha Franklin (3)
Stevie Wonder (3)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
The Platters (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Paul Revere & The Radiers (1)
The Crystals (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
The Supremes (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Dick Clark (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (2)
Howlin' Wolf (2)
Charlie Christian Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (3)
Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
James Jamerson (2)
King Curtis (2)
Earl Palmer (2)
James Burton (2)
Billy Preston (1)
D.J. Fontana (1)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 12:09pm

Updated! For 1989 in alphabetical order

Performers:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (4)
The Coasters (3)
Aretha Franklin (3)
Marvin Gaye (3)
Stevie Wonder (3)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
The Platters (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)

Non-Performers:

Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Dick Clark (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (3)
Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
James Burton (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
King Curtis (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Earl Palmer (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
DJ Fontana (1)
Billy Preston (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 12:20pm

Performers:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (4)
The Coasters (3)
Aretha Franklin (3)
Marvin Gaye (3)
Stevie Wonder (3)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
The Platters (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)

Non-Performers:

Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Dick Clark (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (2)
Howlin' Wolf (2)
Charlie Christian Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (3)
Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
James Burton (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
King Curtis (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Earl Palmer (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
DJ Fontana (1)
Billy Preston (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 12:25pm

Here is the reasoning behind my votes:

The Coasters

I think Jonny said it best:

“The very first Band inducted by the real HoF and with great reason. They were the most important and consistent venue for Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller's great talent. Leiber and Stoller were, along with Lennon & McCartney, THE MOST important and prolific hit song writers of the era.
And don't 4get that the Coasters great songs featured the great rock & roll sax playing of King Curtis, the most important sax player to ever play Rock & Roll

The Coasters - Yakety Yak, Charlie Brown, Down in Mexico, One Kiss Led to Another, Young Blood, Searchin', Idol with the Golden Head, Along Came Jones, Poison Ivy, Little Egypt, Love Potion Number Nine...just to name a few”

The only reason that I waited until this year is I felt that The Drifters and The Miracles were slightly more important.

#414th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone: Young Blood


Marvin Gaye

Here we are again, another year without Marvin Gaye. To me when I think of Motown, I think of Marvin Gaye (then The Miracles, The Temptations and The Supremes) Marvin Gaye probably made the best R&B album with "What's Going On" which addressed the issues of the Vietnam War and injustice. These issues used to be primarily reserved for folk and rock, but Marvin brought it R&B/Soul. Also it is considered to be Soul's first concept album.

Also he gave the greatest performance of the Star Spangled Banner (Jimi’s comes close):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A

18th Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
14th Greatest Artist by VH1
6th Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone
4th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – What’s Going On
80th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
167th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Let’s Get It On
231st Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Sexual Healing
6th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – What’s Going On
165th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Let’s Get It On
462nd Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Here, My Dear

Aretha Franklin

Our Hall of Fame is seriously lacking a woman. No better place to start than with the Queen of Soul. Just replace what Bill G. has been saying about Jackie Wilson with Aretha Franklin and that is the type of reception that she deserves.

9th Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
21st Greatest Artist by VH1
The Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone
5th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Respect
86th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – I Never Loved A Man (The Way I Love You)
249th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Chain of Fools
473rd Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Do Right Woman – Do Right Man
83rd Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – I Never Loved A Man, The Way I Love You
84th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Lady Soul


Otis Redding

Motown might have been “Hitsville USA” but Stax was “Soulville USA” and no one was bigger for Stax than Otis Redding. Rock Critic Jon Landau said “Otis Redding is rock & roll” and he isn’t wrong. With Booker T. & M.G.’s as his back up band, Redding was able to record some of the greatest Soul songs ever: Sittin On The Dock of The Bay, I Can’t Turn You Loose, Try A Little Tenderness, and Respect. He also played at the most important musical festival, Monterey Pop Festival (In a musical sense, not cultural). Unfortunately Otis would die in a plane chase at the young age of 26 less than a mile from where I am sitting right now.

21st Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
35th Greatest Artist by VH1
8th Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone
28th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Sittin On The Dock Of The Bay
110th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – I’ve Been Loving You Too Long (To Stop Now)
204th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Try A Little Tenderness
74th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Otis Blue
161st Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – The Dock Of The Bay

Rolling Stones

I think just like The Beatles this band doesn’t need any explanation why they should get in there first year. But I think that Chuck Klosterman sums it up in one sentence in Fargo Rock City:

“The Rolling Stones introduced the attitude rock guys were supposed to have (no one will ever be cooler)…”
6th Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
2nd Greatest Artist by VH1
16th Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone – Mick Jagger
10th Greatest Guitar Player by Rolling Stone – Keith Richards
2nd Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction
32nd Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Sympathy For The Devil
38th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Gimme Shelter
100th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – You Can’t Always Get What You Want
116th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Honky Tonk Woman
124th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Jumpin’ Jack Flash
174th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Paint It, Black
295th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Street Fighting Man
303rd Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Ruby Tuesday
334th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Wild Horses
424th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Tumbling Dice
435th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Beast of Burden
490th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Brown Sugar
496th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Miss You
7th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Exile On Main Street
32nd Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Let It Bleed
57th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Beggar’s Banquet
63rd Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Sticky Fingers
108th Greatest Album by Rolling Stones – Aftermath
114th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Out of Our Heads
181st Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – The Rolling Stones, Now!
211th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Tattoo You
269th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Some Girls
355th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Between The Buttons


Jackie Wilson

I can’t beat what Bill G. and Jonny have said. Their words speak for me!

68th Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
26th Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone
246th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher
308th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Lonely Teardrops

Stevie Wonder

Usually I feel that artists should be inducted around 25 years from when they first made it really big. Yet with some, like Stevie Wonder, their greatness and impact is too big to ignore the first time around No artist or band was bigger in the 1970’s (except maybe Led Zeppelin). He won an unprecedented 3 Grammys for Album of The Year in only a 4 years time and had 10 number one hits!

15th Greatest Artist by Rolling Stone
11th Greatest Artist by VH1
9th Greatest Singer by Rolling Stone
74th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Superstition
104th Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Living For The City
261st Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – Higher Ground
281st Greatest Song by Rolling Stone – You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
23rd Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Innervisions
56th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Songs In The Key Of Life
90th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Talking Book
284th Greatest Album by Rolling Stone – Music Of My Mind

Also thank you Mr. Octagon!

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:11pm

Except You Forgot Jackie Wilson on that last one, lol!

Performers:

Dion & The Belmonts (4)
The Rolling Stones (4)
The Coasters (3)
Aretha Franklin (3)
Marvin Gaye (3)
Jackie Wilson (3)
Stevie Wonder (3)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
Eddie Cochran (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
The Dave Clark Five (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
The Platters (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)

Non-Performers:

Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (3)
Dick Clark (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (2)
Howlin' Wolf (2)
Charlie Christian Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (3)
Bill Black (2)
Hal Blaine (2)
James Burton (2)
Floyd Cramer (2)
King Curtis (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Earl Palmer (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
DJ Fontana (1)
Billy Preston (1)

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:14pm

Dammit. Oh well.

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:43pm

here is my votes

1.rolling stones
2.stevie wonder
3.aretha franklin
4.jackie wilson
5.marvin gaye
6.eddie cochrane
7.link wray

non performers

1.stoller and leiber
2.dick clark

influences

1.frank sinatra
2.louis armstrong

sidemen

1.bill black
2.scotty moore
3.glenn campbell
4.flyod cramer
5.dj fonatana
6.james burton
7.earl palmer
8.billy preston

Posted by Brian on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:43pm

And you're quite welcome Gassman

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:46pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Jackie Wilson
The Platters
The Dave Clark Five
The Righteous Brothers

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Dick Clark

Influences:

John Lee Hooker
Howlin' Wolf

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore
Bill Black
Billy Preston
Nicky Hopkins

Posted by The Drummer on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:53pm

On second thought, replace the Righteous Brothers with Link Wray please!

Posted by The Drummer on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:55pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones (6)
Aretha Franklin (5)
Marvin Gaye (5)
Jackie Wilson (5)
Dion & The Belmonts (4)
Stevie Wonder (4)
The Coasters (3)
Eddie Cochran (2)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Platters (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Righteous Brothers (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Link Wray (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
Dick Clark (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (3)
Muddy Waters (2)
Jimmy Yancey (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Ravens (1)
Frank Sinatra (1)


Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (5)
Bill Black (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Earl Palmer (3)
Billy Preston (3)
Hal Blaine (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Nicky Hopkins (1)

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 15:04pm

Gassman I believe Link Wray has received two votes (both from me and Brian)

Posted by The Drummer on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 15:09pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Jackie Wilson
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
Link Wray
The Platters
Jan & Dean

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Holland-Dozier-Holland

Influences:

Jimmy Yancey
Screamin' Jay Hawkins

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore
Bill Black
Earl Palmer
Billy Preston
Lee Allen

Posted by Joshua on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 16:06pm

And yeah Link Wray is up to 3 votes now

Posted by Joshua on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 16:45pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones (7)
Jackie Wilson (6)
Dion & The Belmonts (5)
Aretha Franklin (5)
Marvin Gaye (5)
The Coasters (4)
Stevie Wonder (4)
The Platters (3)
Link Wray (3)
Eddie Cochran (2)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Link Wray (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (6)
Dick Clark (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (3)
Jimmy Yancey (3)
Muddy Waters (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Ravens (1)
Frank Sinatra (1)


Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (6)
Bill Black (5)
Earl Palmer (4)
Billy Preston (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Hal Blaine (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Lee Allen (1)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Nicky Hopkins (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 17:36pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones (7)
Jackie Wilson (6)
Dion & The Belmonts (5)
Aretha Franklin (5)
Marvin Gaye (5)
The Coasters (4)
Stevie Wonder (4)
The Platters (3)
Link Wray (3)
Eddie Cochran (2)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (2)
Gene Chandler (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (6)
Dick Clark (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (3)
Jimmy Yancey (3)
Muddy Waters (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ravens (1)
Frank Sinatra (1)


Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (6)
Bill Black (5)
Earl Palmer (4)
Billy Preston (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Hal Blaine (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Lee Allen (1)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Nicky Hopkins (1)

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 17:37pm

89
sidepeople
Hal Blaine
Carol Kay
Nicky Hopkins
James Jamerson
Earl Palmer
George Martin
influences:

Jelly Roll Morton,
Memphis Slim
Billie Holiday
Blind Lemon Jefferson

Non-Performers
Col.Parker
Wally Hider
David S. Gold and Stan Ross{Gold Star Recording}
Performers
Rolling Stones
Beach Boys
Beatles
Dylan
Big Brother
Jefferson Airplane
Animals

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 18:13pm

Mrxyz....All of the artists you listed (except for The Rolling Stones) are all either not eligible yet (for 1989) or have already been inducted.

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 18:20pm

mrxyz: I think you have broken almost every rule we have on this, lol!

- You only get 2 votes for influences and non-performers

- You get 8 votes for sidemen this time around so you can vote for 2 more people. Also I would suggest that you vote for George Martin for a non-performer instead of sidman.

- With your performers:
The Rolling Stones (good)
The Beach Boys (already in)
The Beatles (already in)
Bob Dylan (already in)
Big Brother (not eligible)
Jefferson Airplane (not eligible)
The Animals (not eligible)

So you get 6 more votes for that!

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 18:27pm

Let me at least get started:

Sidemen:
-Scotty Moore
-James Burton
-The Funk Brothers (I don't think any one of them is more important than the others)
-Bill Black

Early Influence:
-Chet Atkins
-Merle Travis
-Joe Maphis

I have to give the performers more thought. Having been around since near the beginning, I remember the thing most said about the Rolling Stones was "Beatle wannabes"...so I don't think they're such a slam-dunk pick...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 18:44pm

*************GENE CHANDLER*************



= The DUKE OF EARL =

A FANTASTIC PERFORMER !! 50 years in show business, over 30 chart hits, songwriter, producer, record executive, entrepreneur...hardly a one hit wonder after the million-selling "DUKE OF EARL". Still rocking and rolling today, at the the age of 72!! Hits include the Top 20 hits JUST BE TRUE, NOTHING CAN STOP ME,WHAT NOW,I FOOLED YOU THIS TIME, GOD BLESS OUR LOVE,RAINBOW,A MAN'S TEMPTATION,YOU CANT HURT ME NO MORE,GOOD TIMES, THERE WAS A TIME, RAINBOW'65,GET DOWN, TO BE A LOVER, and many more, including the 1970 R.I.A.A. Certified Million-Seller, GROOVY SITUATION. Former Executive Vice President of Chi-Sound Records, he helped the careers of numerous artists,including JOHNNY NASH, MEL & TIM,and many others. His songs have been sampled and covered by many artists and have been featured in numerous films.

I just attended of of his shows 3 weeks ago, and he put on a dynamic performance that artists one third his age couldn't do!!!

A Grammy Hall Of Fame Inductee, and winner of The National Association of Television and Radio Announcers (NATRA) Producer of the Year Award in 1970,a winner of THE RHYTHM and BLUES FOUNDATION'S PIONEER AWARD, and an artist that was SO HOT in the Sixties, that he was signed by 3 different record companies....at THE SAME TIME !! (Chess Records, Constellation Records, and Brunswick).
I dont see how the the RRHOF could have possibly ignored GENE , yet nominated JOE TEX , who had nowhere NEAR the number of hits, and inducted PERCY SLEDGE, who had ONLY ONE.
One of the few artists who had hits during the DOO-WOP, R&B, SOUL, and DISCO eras...and is still going strong today...and still drawing huge crowds at his concerts the world over!!!

GENE CHANDLER should have ALREADY BEEN INDUCTED!!!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:10pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
Aretha Franklin
The Coasters
The Platters
Otis Redding
Del Shannon

Non-Performers:

Leiber & Stoller

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf
Bill Monroe
The Ink Spots

Sidemen:

The Funk Brothers (thanks for reminding me Gitarzan!)
Billy Preston

more to come later...

Posted by Patrick on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:18pm

Only 2 for Influences??? Alright ignore my last post here's my updated one!!

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
Aretha Franklin
The Coasters
The Platters
Otis Redding
Del Shannon

Non-Performers:

Leiber & Stoller

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf
The Ink Spots

Sidemen:

The Funk Brothers
Billy Preston

Posted by Patrick on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:33pm

I remember the thing most said about the Rolling Stones was "Beatle wannabes"...so I don't think they're such a slam-dunk pick...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 18:44pm
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But weren't almost all bands that came after 1964 "Beatle wannabes"?

The Stones are iconic. They helped give rock an edge and they made it louder while also keeping it close to its origins after everybody went psychadelic. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are the first in a long line of well known vocalist-lead guitar player duos. I could go on and on but I think you get my drift

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:49pm

The Vote Totals So Far:

The Rolling Stones (8)
Jackie Wilson (6)
Dion & The Belmonts (6)
Aretha Franklin (6)
Marvin Gaye (5)
The Coasters (5)
Stevie Wonder (4)
The Platters (4)
Link Wray (3)
Eddie Cochran (2)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Otis Redding (3)
Gene Chandler (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Del Shannon (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Link Wray (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (7)
Dick Clark (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (4)
Jimmy Yancey (3)
Muddy Waters (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Ravens (1)
Frank Sinatra (1)


Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (6)
Bill Black (5)
Billy Preston (5)
Earl Palmer (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Hal Blaine (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
The Funk Brothers (2)
James Jamerson (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Lee Allen (1)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Nicky Hopkins (1)

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:55pm

Also:

Gitarzan - You voted for 3 influences, instead of the 2 that you are allowed. Just tell me which one you don't want me to count

Patrick - You only voted for 1 non-performer, you can vote for one more

Future Rock Legends - Would you mind puting a non-performer, influences, and sideman section up with the performers?

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 19:58pm

Alright I will vote for Holland-Dozier-Holland then

Posted by Patrick on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 20:22pm

Gassman
what happen to my votes??

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 20:23pm

This happened to your votes:

mrxyz: I think you have broken almost every rule we have on this, lol!

- You only get 2 votes for influences and non-performers

- You get 8 votes for sidemen this time around so you can vote for 2 more people. Also I would suggest that you vote for George Martin for a non-performer instead of sidman.

- With your performers:
The Rolling Stones (good)
The Beach Boys (already in)
The Beatles (already in)
Bob Dylan (already in)
Big Brother (not eligible)
Jefferson Airplane (not eligible)
The Animals (not eligible)

So you get 6 more votes for that!

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 21:19pm

This happened to your votes:

mrxyz: I think you have broken almost every rule we have on this, lol!

- You only get 2 votes for influences and non-performers

- You get 8 votes for sidemen this time around so you can vote for 2 more people. Also I would suggest that you vote for George Martin for a non-performer instead of sidman.

- With your performers:
The Rolling Stones (good)
The Beach Boys (already in)
The Beatles (already in)
Bob Dylan (already in)
Big Brother (not eligible)
Jefferson Airplane (not eligible)
The Animals (not eligible)

So you get 6 more votes for that!

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 21:19pm

Gosh so your going to play by the rules huh...
First of all Martin was a performer/sideman on the Beatles from Key ,percussions to arraignments and I also call mixing performance

the other side person ids {drum roll}......................................................................
Hal Blaine
how many Non-Performers: do I get?
Performers I am lost
but here it goes for 89
Stevie Wonder
Chiffons
Bobby Rydell
Joan Baez
Chubby Checker
Big Bopper

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 22:16pm

The Rolling Stones (9)
Jackie Wilson (6)
Dion & The Belmonts (6)
Aretha Franklin (6)
The Coasters (5)
Marvin Gaye (5)
Stevie Wonder (5)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Link Wray (3)
Eddie Cochran (2)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Del Shannon (1)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)
Link Wray (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (7)
Dick Clark (3)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (4)
Jimmy Yancey (3)
Muddy Waters (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Ravens (1)
Frank Sinatra (1)


Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (6)
Bill Black (5)
Billy Preston (5)
Earl Palmer (5)
Hal Blaine (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
James Jamerson (3)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
The Funk Brothers (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Lee Allen (1)
Chet Atkins (1)
Benny Benjamin (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 22:40pm

Ok mrxyz:

You can now vote for 2 influences and 2 non-performers

Here is who you have voted for, 4 influences and 3 non-performers. Please tell me the 2 for each that you want me to count for you.

influences:

Jelly Roll Morton,
Memphis Slim
Billie Holiday
Blind Lemon Jefferson

Non-Performers:

Col.Parker
Wally Hider
David S. Gold and Stan Ross{Gold Star Recording}

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 22:43pm

Hey Gassman, you didn't include my vote for Holland-Dozier-Holland, they're up to 2 votes now! Also, on your list of Performers you have Link Wray included twice, once for 3 votes and once for 1 vote

Posted by Patrick on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 07:50am

Here are my votes!

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
The Searchers
Del Shannon
Bobby Fuller Four
Lou Christie
Ritchie Valens
The Righteous Brothers

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Dick Clark

Influences:

Muddy Waters
Screamin' Jay Hawkins

Sidemen:

Lee Allen
The Funk Brothers
Billy Preston

Posted by Carlo on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 08:00am

Eddie Cochran
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio
Dion and the Belmonts
Jack Scott
The Rolling Stones
Jackie Wilson
The Coasters

Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
DIck Clark

Frank Sinatra
Howlin' Wolf

Scotty Moore
Benny Benjamin
Hal Blaine

Posted by Steve Z on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 09:31am

he 2 for each that you want me to count for you.

influences:

Jelly Roll Morton,
Memphis Slim
Billie Holiday
Blind Lemon Jefferson

Non-Performers:

Col.Parker
Wally Hider
David S. Gold and Stan Ross{Gold Star Recording}

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 22:43pm

Well its a tough one to call
influences:
Billie Holiday
Blind Lemon Jefferson

Non-Performers:
David S. Gold and Stan Ross{Gold Star Recording}
Col. Parker

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 09:32am

I know we're trying to be as objective as we can, I think, but how could anyone in their right mind nominate a total scumbag like Col. Tom Parker...if anything, he was the ruin of him. He wouldn't allow Elvis to tour overseas because HE was an illegal alien and was such a control freak that he didn't trust him to go over alone. In every Elvis movie he was given credit as a "Technical Advisor"...for doing what??? Dick Clark did everything he could to get him out of that maniac's clutches, and only Elvis and his dad knows for sure why they kept him around.

In the annals of entertainment history, that man is an absolute HORROR story!!! There's an interesting book out about it, and it clearly draws out that Elvis would've been a much bigger international star, would've gotten better movie roles...see "A Star Is Born"...etc..., (and would've probably lived longer) without a money-grubbing parasite like "Col." Tom Parker...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 09:52am

The Rolling Stones (11)
Dion & The Belmonts (7)
Jackie Wilson (7)
Aretha Franklin (6)
The Coasters (6)
Marvin Gaye (5)
Stevie Wonder (5)
The Platters (4)
Eddie Cochran (3)
Otis Redding (3)
Link Wray (3)
The Dave Clark Five (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (9)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (3)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (5)
Muddy Waters (4)
Jimmy Yancey (3)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (7)
Billy Preston (6)
Bill Black (5)
Earl Palmer (5)
Hal Blaine (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
The Funk Brothers (3)
James Jamerson (3)
Lee Allen (2)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:02am

Gassman...I know where you're coming from concerning the Stones, and I'm not sure about your age. My vantage point was there were simply better bands out there during the British Invasion than the Stones...the Dave Clark 5 were even giving the Beatles a run in the beginning. As far as them being the first "lead singer/guitarist duo", first of all, don't forget about the Yardbirds, who were clearly better in my opinion, and I've always heard that the real "brains" in that group, the real "innovator", was Brian Jones...NOT the other two. My first impression of them was seeing them on a big rock variety TV show (which the name escapes me) where the Stones followed James Brown...and Mick looked like a total idiot trying to mimic Brown's dancing...totally ridiculous.

I could never see what people saw in them...they were just followers during the British Invasion, and have had times of very bad judgement since (hiring the Hell's Angels as security at Altamont was one of rock history's classic blunders). They tried to come across as "bad boys", but as Peter noone once said...

"They're a bunch of prep school twits"

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:05am

Here are my performers;
-Jackie Wilson
-Gene Vincent
-Johnny Burnette & the Rock & Roll Trio
-Marvin Gaye
-Eddie Cochran
-Dave Clark Five
-Link Wray

Also, I'm going to hold off on Chet Atkins and Merle Travis on my early influences and nominate the person who pretty much came up with that style of playing...

-Maybelle Carter

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:20am

I think getting dissenting views on some artists is actually healthy, because it enables people to go back and look at rock history a little more closely and come to their own conclusions.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:32am

I respect were your coming from with your opinion on The Stones Gitarzan. But The Stones seem to have paved their own way a few years down the road in their career even if they were "Beatles wannabes" in the beginning. Mick Jagger may have not successful copied James Brown's dance routine on a show once but he is one of the most recognized, respected and arguably among the best front men in Rock and Roll. Brian Jones was a Hell of an artist and Keith Richards although maybe not among the "the top 10 greatest guitarists of all time" definitely deserves recognition for his work. Not recognizing the Stones as developers and perpetuators as well as influences on Rock and Roll in their nearly 50 years as performers (when The Beatles could barely do 10) would be a shame to Rock and Roll.

All that being said I like how you mentioned The Dave Clark Five. I also feel that The Animals never got as much recognition as they should have.

Posted by The Drummer on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:47am

And yes nominating Col. Parker into the RRHOF is a disgrace

Posted by The Drummer on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 10:49am

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
The Dave Clark Five
Link Wray
Ricky Nelson
Big Joe Turner

Non-Performers:

Ed Sullivan
Leiber & Stoller

Influences:

Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer
Bill Black
Lee Allen

Posted by Milestones on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:02am

Drummer...I totally agree about the Animals, I have "It's My life" on my MP3 player right now. Concerning the Stones, I think it boils down to only having one shot to make a first impression, and after that the only time they had noteriety with me was when I'd hear situations like Altamont, getting arrested, etc..., and their music never had any impact on me at all...which I think says something since I was a beginning musician during that time. As a direct contrast (for me, anyway), I look at the Yardbirds and think "Look at what this group spawned...!!!"

Diff'rent strokes, I guess...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:03am

Correction!!!

Influences:

Jimmy Yancey
Muddy Waters

SIDEMEN:

Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer
Bill Black
Lee Allen

Posted by Milestones on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:04am

Exactly Gitarzan. Having a healthy discourse in regards to Rock and Roll is important. Let's not forgot that The Animals' "House of the Rising Sun" was the first non-Beatles #1 in North America done by a British band, thus predating not just The Stones but the more well known bands like The Who and The Kinks as well.

Posted by The Drummer on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:09am

I don't like this Rock Hall Revisted section. It's flooded. No one writes on any other topics anymore on this site.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:10am

...kinda like when you flood it with all that Chicago "mumbo-jumbo". it seems to me you don't seem to talk about much else, either. At least on this, people are bringing up interesting points about DIFFERENT artists, and not just voting...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:14am

Vote Totals:

The Rolling Stones (12)
Dion & The Belmonts (8)
Jackie Wilson (8)
The Coasters (7)
Aretha Franklin (6)
Marvin Gaye (6)
Stevie Wonder (5)
Link Wray (5)
The Dave Clark Five (4)
Eddie Cochran (4)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Del Shannon (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
The Supremes (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (10)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (3)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (5)
Howlin' Wolf (5)
Jimmy Yancey (4)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (8)
Bill Black (6)
Earl Palmer (6)
Billy Preston (6)
Hal Blaine (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
The Funk Brothers (3)
James Jamerson (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:27am

Git, excellent comments, but I have to agree with Gassman about the Stones. I feel the same way about Aretha... there are so many more better singers than Aretha, but to ignore the incredible influence she's had over the years, honestly, I'm surprised it's taking us this long to put her into our own little wingding (of course, I think this is the first time I've voted for her too, lol.)

Roy... this is the offseason. If it weren't for this section, there probably wouldn't be much of ANY activity going on at this site. This keeps us busy and keeps us from getting bored... keeps our enthusiasm going. Enjoy it in the spirit intended.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 11:49am

Philip...how are things up north??? As I see it, the Stones aren't needing my help with getting votes anyway (LOL). I don't deny their place in rock history...I just don't understand it (but, that's just me!!!). When it comes to them, I catch myself thinking "did I miss something???"

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 12:07pm

Just think, Roy!!! You're going to be given the opportunity to vote for Chicago's induction into a "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" (as far as I'm concerned, this one is just as important...and probably more legitimate... as theirs...all we're missing is an ugly building)!

Do you think the other one isn't noticing this...???

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 12:18pm

Yeah, it looks like the Stones are going to break the record for the most votes. They are already at 12 after only about 2 days and they only need 3 more to tie The Beatles.

Here are another four reasons why the Stones should be in:

1968 - Beggars Banquet
1969 - Let It Bleed
1971 - Sticky Fingers (My favorite Stones album!)
1972 - Exlie On Main St.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 12:24pm

Gassman...I know this process is complicated as it is, but I've always thought a "Rock Hall of Fame" should have a section called "Virtuosos", which is probably self-explanitory. I'd think it would be a more important section than "sidemen", since most would fall under that catagory, plus, as an example, would recognize people like Eddie Van Halen, whose one of the most important figures in rock guitar history, but can only be inducted with his band.

I'd like to hear your feedback...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 12:53pm

Hmm...

I kind of think that they do get recognized for their band and for being a virtuosos. I don't know if they need double recogniton. But if you could expliain, in more detail, why you think this category needs to come about and give me like 20 examples of people that should be considered, I might consider it.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 13:19pm

Gassman
I have George Martin as a "sideman" please change! I will say it again he played the KEYS {Lots, lots and LOTS of them} percussions , arranged,scoring ,conducting and mixing on the "Beatles" and other rock recordings... Heck mixing alone is performing on a recording...

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 14:27pm

Manfred Mann

Right, my votes:

-The Rolling Stones (sorry, Gitar, it's just a no-brainer.) Think of it this way: The Stones were the bad boys to counteract The Beatles' squeaky clean image (yes, I know they weren't squeaky clean), and though they weren't as innovative as The Beatles, when they moved into new territory they managed to do so whilst still keeping in the realm of dirty R'N'R. As a 5-year old in the UK in '95, I remember Oasis' heyday ("Morning Glory" was the coolest album around then if you were a youngster), and their chart wars with Blur were compared to the chart wars between The Beatles and The Stones. In retrospect, to me the comparisons were that Blur were the more experimental band, and Oasis had the bad-boy image (not that I'm saying either band is as revolutionary as The Beatles or The Stones.) Sorry, just too big of an influence to ignore.

-Stevie Wonder (obviously.)

-Aretha Franklin (not much of a fan, but Year Zero for ladies in R&B and soul, and there's something to be said for that.

-Dave Clark Five (Gitarzan's statement that Alex Van Halen said that when he saw them on Ed Sullivan he decided to stop playing jazz and start playing R'N'R was huge with me, and AMG lists Van Halen as one of their followers. It also says that they and Manfred Mann were the only British Invasion to use the saxophone. And you might be able to give them credit for perpetuation by helping to get the British Invasion going by playing Ed Sullivan after The Beatles, and keeping the Beatles' momentum going. I was also reluctant because of not much in the way of lasting influence. Despite myself, I'll choose them, albeit a little reluctantly.)

-Jackie Wilson (what Gassman and Bill G. said was difficult to ignore.)

-Marvin Gaye (too important to ignore.)

Damn it, I'm one short and not sure who to choose. I guess I'll have to go with Link Wray for my 7th. The debate should be a bit better (and the choices easier) as things go along.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 16:46pm

Vote Totals:

The Rolling Stones (13)
Jackie Wilson (9)
Dion & The Belmonts (8)
The Coasters (7)
Aretha Franklin (7)
Marvin Gaye (7)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Link Wray (6)
The Dave Clark Five (5)
Eddie Cochran (4)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Del Shannon (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
The Supremes (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (10)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (3)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (5)
Howlin' Wolf (5)
Jimmy Yancey (4)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (8)
Bill Black (6)
Earl Palmer (6)
Billy Preston (6)
Hal Blaine (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
The Funk Brothers (3)
James Jamerson (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 17:49pm

Sam - What did you mean by Manfred Mann at the beginning of your votes?

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 17:51pm

Hey Git, things are thawed out here finally. Right now we're all busy pulling for the Tigers and the Red Wings. As far as the Stones... I listen to "Tumbling Dice" and their existence alone is justified by that song, even if I can't understand a friggin' word Mick is singing! lol

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:11pm

While this is fun, I think it'd be more reflective if we were actually choosing the same number of inductees each year as actually were inducted. Voting less in the first two years and the fifth year kind of puts us in an early hole, imo. If we were to vote for 10 the first year, and so on, I bet you'd get a really cool perspective.

Or we could also do 10 a year straight across the board, too, as one of the main complaint (that I have at least) is they don't put enough in each year.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:13pm

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Link Wray
The Dave Clark Five

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Holland-Dozier-Holland

Influences:

Jimmy Yancey
Howlin' Wolf

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore
Bill Black
The Funk Brothers
Billy Preston
Earl Palmer

Posted by Keebord on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:14pm

Philip: here is why we are doing seven every year:

- The changing of the number of inductees for the real Hall of Fame really annoys me. I think consistancy is good for something like this. I would like it to be a constant number. I feel like seven is a good number as 5 is too low and 10 is too high.

- It might take us longer then it did for the real thing to get artsis in but I feel that this community of intelligent rock experts will get those who are deserved in, eventually.

- If it becomes a problem, which I don't think it will I'll give everyone two extra votes for a couple of years that can only go to people that became eligible in 1986 and 1987.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:39pm

The Rolling Stones (14)
Jackie Wilson (9)
Dion & The Belmonts (9)
The Coasters (8)
Aretha Franklin (8)
Marvin Gaye (8)
Link Wray (7)
The Dave Clark Five (6)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Eddie Cochran (4)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Del Shannon (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
The Supremes (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (11)
Dick Clark (5)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (4)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (6)
Muddy Waters (5)
Jimmy Yancey (5)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (9)
Bill Black (7)
Earl Palmer (7)
Billy Preston (7)
Hal Blaine (4)
The Funk Brothers (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
James Jamerson (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:43pm

Dion
Rolling Stones
Eddie Cochran
Wilson Picket
Mary Wells
Jonnny Rivers
Animals
Supremes
Non Performers
Brian Epstein
Berry Gordie
Sidemen
Jamerson
Palmer
Blaine
Don Randie
Influence
Muddy Waters
Chuck Berry

Posted by L-7 on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:10pm

The Rolling Stones (15)
Dion & The Belmonts (10)
Jackie Wilson (9)
The Coasters (8)
Aretha Franklin (8)
Marvin Gaye (8)
Link Wray (7)
The Dave Clark Five (6)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Eddie Cochran (5)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Jonnny Rivers (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (11)
Dick Clark (5)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (4)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Brian Epstein (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (6)
Howlin' Wolf (6)
Jimmy Yancey (5)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (9)
Earl Palmer (8)
Bill Black (7)
Billy Preston (7)
Hal Blaine (5)
The Funk Brothers (4)
James Jamerson (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:24pm

Gassman, Johnny Rivers isn't eligible until 1990 (as much as I would like to see him inducted in '89 we probably shouldn't break our own rules). L-7 also nominated The Animals who aren't eligible until '90 either

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:26pm

L-7 (Hey! I said it right this time!)

The Animals are not eligible until next year, so you get one more preformer vote.

Also Berry Gordie was voted in last time so you don't have to worry about him and you can vote for one more non-preformer.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:26pm

gassman
Are you sure? The Animals had a hit in 1964 Rising Sun

Posted by L-7 on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:52pm

1964 Rivers had "Memphis

Posted by L-7 on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:56pm

Right... 25 years means they're NOMINATED in '89, for Induction in '90. It's weird, but that's how it works.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:58pm

non performer

Lou Adler

Posted by L-7yes on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 20:58pm

What Philip said L-7. I also agree it is weird, but you still get one more vote.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 21:02pm

Performers
Chiffons
Jimmy Gilmer And Fireballs

Posted by L-7 on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 22:03pm

Which one do you want me to count?

The Chiffons

or

Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs

You only have one vote left!

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 22:17pm

Which one do you want me to count?

The Chiffons

or

Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs

You only have one vote left!

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 22:17pm

I guess Fireballs seem they had the longest # 1 hit in 1963 Sugar Shack

Posted by L-7 on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 22:34pm

The Rolling Stones (15)
Dion & The Belmonts (10)
Jackie Wilson (9)
The Coasters (8)
Aretha Franklin (8)
Marvin Gaye (8)
Link Wray (7)
The Dave Clark Five (6)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Eddie Cochran (5)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
The Four Tops (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
The Chiffons (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Jonnny Rivers (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (11)
Dick Clark (5)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (4)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (6)
Howlin' Wolf (6)
Jimmy Yancey (5)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
Billie Holiday (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (9)
Earl Palmer (8)
Bill Black (7)
Billy Preston (7)
Hal Blaine (5)
The Funk Brothers (4)
James Jamerson (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 05:48am

My 1989 Performer votes:

Dion & Belmonts
Otis Redding
marvin Gaye
Jackie Wilson
Rolling Stones
Aretha Franklin
The Coasters

Non-Performers:

Lieber & Stoller
Holland-Dozier-Holland

Influences:

Billy Holiday
Muddy Waters

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 06:17am

Gassman, L-7 does in fact get two more votes seeing as he voted for both The Animals and Johnny Rivers needed of which are eligible until next year. You still have Mr. Rivers listed as receiving a vote even though he's not eligible this year

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 07:12am

Besides I'm sure if The Animals and Johnny Rivers WERE eligible this year they would have received a lot of votes by now

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 07:13am

My bad on the Johnny Rivers/Animals thing. It will all be fixed below!

The Rolling Stones (16)
Dion & The Belmonts (11)
Jackie Wilson (10)
The Coasters (9)
Aretha Franklin (9)
Marvin Gaye (9)
Link Wray (7)
The Dave Clark Five (6)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Eddie Cochran (5)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (12)
Dick Clark (5)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (7)
Howlin' Wolf (6)
Jimmy Yancey (5)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (9)
Earl Palmer (8)
Bill Black (7)
Billy Preston (7)
Hal Blaine (5)
The Funk Brothers (4)
James Jamerson (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 09:35am

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
The Dave Clark Five
Link Wray

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
Holland-Dozier-Holland

Influences:

Jimmy Yancey
Howlin' Wolf

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer
Billy Preston
The Funk Brothers

Posted by Bassmaster on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 11:07am

Vote Totals So Far:

The Rolling Stones (17)
Dion & The Belmonts (12)
The Coasters (10)
Aretha Franklin (10)
Marvin Gaye (10)
Jackie Wilson (10)
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Stevie Wonder (6)
Eddie Cochran (5)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (13)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Muddy Waters (7)
Howlin' Wolf (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
The Ink Spots (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (9)
Billy Preston (8)
Bill Black (7)
Hal Blaine (5)
The Funk Brothers (5)
James Jamerson (4)
Lee Allen (3)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 11:24am

More reasons why you should vote for Stevie Wonder:

9th Greatest Artist by Digital Dream Door
20th Greatest Artist in the 60’s by Digital Dream Door
THE Greatest Artist in the 70’s by Digital Dream Door
63rd Greatest Artist in the 80’s by Digital Dream Door
43rd Greatest Rock Keyboardist by Digital Dream Door
16th Greatest Male Rock Vocalist by Digital Dream Door
17th (6th) Greatest Album (of the 70’s) by Digital Dream Door – Innervisions (1973)
23rd (9th) Greatest Album (of the 70’s) by Digital Dream Door – Songs In The Key Of Life (1976)
52nd (27th) Greatest Album (of the 70’s) by Digital Dream Door – Talking Book (1972)
98th (75th) Greatest Album (of the 70’s) by Digital Dream Door – Fulfillingness’ First Finale (1974)
31st Greatest Song by Digital Dream Door – Superstition
230th Greatest Song by Digital Dream Door – Uptight
26th Greatest R&B/Soul Song by Digital Dream Door – Uptight
76th Greatest R&B/Soul Song by Digital Dream Door – Superstition
107th Greatest R&B/Soul Song by Digital Dream Door – Singed, Sealed, Delivered

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 11:45am

What is so fabulously all-knowing about Digital Dream Door that they above all else should be believed or followed in any way?

Posted by interviewer on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 11:52am

It’s just another source of information that I have seen people on this site use help make their claims. I am not saying that they should be believed above all else. They just help provide another voice in the discussion. Lastly your comment makes me think that you are an arrogant asshole, hopefully I am wrong :)

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 12:08pm

If making my own descions based on personal experience as well as a variety of other objective sources after inquiring as to the veracity of those sources makes me "an arrogant asshole" then guilty as charged.

:)

Lastly, your distasteful, uncalled for comment makes me think that you are a thin skined, 19 year old who hasn't yet been half way around the block, hopefully I am wrong :)

Posted by interviewer on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 12:52pm

WoW!!
I haven't checked out this sight for a few days, and I was astounded by all the activity thats been going on! Wow. Even more surprising than the number of voters, though, are the votes themselves! I am very excited about The Coasters! It is definitely time for Jackie Wilson and The Coasters to be inducted. But Dave Clark Five?? I definitely think they should be induced but it is a little early. I can think of A LOT of artists that I think should be inducted before The Dave Clark Five (The Supremes, Otis Redding, Booker T & the MGs, Peter, Paul, & Mary, just to name a few). Do one of you Dave Clark Five voters want to explain your vote. And what about Stevie Wonder?!?! How can we not let Stevie in his first year. Come on ppl, vote for Stevie!!!
Also, I was alarmed by a few omissions: Not a single vote for Carl Perkins?! The King of Rockabilly?! His music was covered by Elvis Presly, The Beatles, Johnny Cash, and many more!
For my final 2 votes (I only voted for 5 originally) are:

6) Carl Perkins
7) Eddie Cochran

And where's the support for Ricky Nelson, Clyde McPhatter, and Han Ballard??! All of whom should be inducted within the first 5 years in my opinion.
Also: how did B. B. King get 8 voted last year and NO votes this year? lol some ppl are voting with no rhyme or reason

Posted by Jonny on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 13:54pm

Hey Jonny!!! Good thing you mentioned B.B. King, I just missed voting last year but this whole enterprise really seems to be catching on!!

Anyways here are my votes...

Performers:

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
Marvin Gaye
Jackie Wilson
The Coasters
B.B. King
Stevie Wonder

Non-Performers:

Leiber & Stoller
Nesuhi Ertegun

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf
The Ink Spots

Sidemen:

Earl Palmer
Lee Allen
Billy Preston
THE FUNK BROTHERS!!!

Posted by Pete on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 14:43pm

Vote Totals So Far:

The Rolling Stones (18)
Dion & The Belmonts (13)
The Coasters (11)
Marvin Gaye (11)
Jackie Wilson (11)
Aretha Franklin (10)
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
Stevie Wonder (7)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
B.B. King (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Carl Perkins (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (10)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (6)
Hal Blaine (5)
Lee Allen (4)
James Jamerson (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 16:05pm

I agree with Jonny that maybe we are rushing ahead with the Dave Clark Five. Stevie Wonder, Otis Redding, The Supremes, B.B. King, and Carl Perkins are also in my opinion are more worthy right now. But yeah discussion is good!

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 16:22pm

Sam - What did you mean by Manfred Mann at the beginning of your votes? - Gassman

Oh. I copied everyone you listed over to decide; I guess I forgot to cut Manfred Mann out. Sorry.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 18:16pm

Thats cool Sam!

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 20:31pm

Some interesting information on the voting:

21 - artists/bands have been inducted
79 - artists/bands have received votes
18* - most votes for one artist/band (The Rolling Stones)
100 - % of the vote total received by Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley & Little Richard
35.714 - % of the vote total received by Bo Diddley (lowest so far)
10 - Largest jump in the vote from one year to the next (Roy Orbison & The Drifters)

* = As of right now, final vote still pending

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 10:46am

I was wondering what you guys think of maybe shortening up the voting period? Due to record levels of voting over the weekend along with having no voters today, I feel as if we may have reached our maximum when it comes to voters. I was thinking of shrinking it from 7 days to 5 days. I wouldn't do it this week as some may be waiting until Friday, but I would do it for the next year. I would like to know what you all think on this!

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 17:33pm

Yeah Gassman I've noticed that too. If you choose to do it I'm all for it

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 18:55pm

Down to 5 days for the next inductions? I'd certainly go along with it.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 19:44pm

Sounds good to me.

Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 21:07pm

My six:


The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
Marvin Gaye
Jackie Wilson
Aretha Franklin

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 21:31pm

Thanks for voting Casper, but you get one more vote!

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 22:25pm

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (19)
Dion & The Belmonts (14)
The Coasters (12)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Jackie Wilson (12)
Aretha Franklin (11)
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
Stevie Wonder (7)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Four Tops (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
B.B. King (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Carl Perkins (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (10)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (6)
Hal Blaine (5)
Lee Allen (4)
James Jamerson (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 22:33pm

Gassman, I would be fine with shortening the time to 5 days.

Appreciate your work on this.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 05:59am

I wouldn't be against you moving the voting period to 5 days, as that should still be enough time for most people to vote.

I haven't voted yet because I'm still trying to determine my votes, particularly for the sidemen category. I'm not as familiar with this category as the other ones. I guess I could just join in and vote for the people that everyone are already voting for, but I'd rather think for myself and come up with my own votes.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 06:04am

Personally, I don't vote for sidemen, as I do not consider myself knowledgable enough to vote on them.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 06:06am

Also, why in the world does Chuck Berry, who was inducted in the first class in the Performers category have a vote in the "Influences" category. That makes no sense to me.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 06:17am

Oh, I didn't know if we had to vote in all of the categories in order to participate or not. How many sidemen do we get to vote for in this initial class (for sidemen I mean)?

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 06:18am

Alright guys, I don't know enough about the sidemen or the accomplishments of the non-performers but I'll be more than happy to vote for the performers (7 right?)

The Rolling Stones
Dion & The Belmonts
The Coasters
B.B. King
Aretha Franklin
Stevie Wonder
Johnny Ace

Posted by Firebrick on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 08:42am

Also, why in the world does Chuck Berry, who was inducted in the first class in the Performers category have a vote in the "Influences" category. That makes no sense to me.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 06:17am

If you don't think that Chuck Berry had influence on the "rock" world you best think again..He was and is beyond just a performer..He is to many things..!

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 09:01am

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (20)
Dion & The Belmonts (15)
Aretha Franklin (12)
The Coasters (13)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Jackie Wilson (12)
------------------------
Stevie Wonder (8)
Link Wray (8)
------------------------
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Four Tops (2)
B.B. King (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
Johnny Ace (1)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Carl Perkins (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (10)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (6)
Hal Blaine (5)
Lee Allen (4)
James Jamerson (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 09:28am

Based on the responses that I have received, I am going to shorten the voting length from 7 to 5 days.

To Donnie - You do not have to vote for all the categories if you don't want to

Casper - You still have one more vote left

Also by someone voting for Chuck Berry as an influence they are saying that they feel that the work that Chuck Berry did outside of the realm of Rock is influential on Rock music and worth recognition. Now I don’t agree with that point because I feel that the vast majority of Chuck Berry’s work was rock, that doesn’t mean that someone else can’t think that. Also I have no problem with someone voting for Chuck Berry just because he was already inducted as a performer for the same reason. There are a few artists that I could see inducted as both (Muddy Waters, B.B. King, John Lee Hooker, Big Joe Turner, etc.)

Here is the number of votes you get for this year (1989):

7 Performers
2 Non-Performers
2 Influences
8 Sidemen

Here is the number of votes you get after this year (1990 and beyond):

7 Performers
2 Non-Performers
2 Influences
2 Sidemen

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 09:33am

Also by someone voting for Chuck Berry as an influence they are saying that they feel that the work that Chuck Berry did outside of the realm of Rock is influential on Rock music and worth recognition. Now I don’t agree with that point because I feel that the vast majority of Chuck Berry’s work was rock, that doesn’t mean that someone else can’t think that. Also I have no problem with someone voting for Chuck Berry just because he was already inducted as a performer for the same reason. There are a few artists that I could see inducted as both (Muddy Waters, B.B. King, John Lee Hooker, Big Joe Turner, etc.)

I am not saying that I am saying he is both Kinda like at that he is both..

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 10:36am

1 Jackie Wilson
2 Rolling Stones
3 Stevie Wonder
4 BB King
5 Aretha Franklin
6 Four Tops
7 Dion

Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 11:09am

Gassman, I saw you changed George Martin from the non-performer to the sideman category, because mrxyz voted for him in that category. But now my vote for George Martin in the non-performer category is missing!

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 11:22am

The_Claw - My bad, it will be fixed. I thought someone voted for George Martin as a non-performer. I got confused, lol!

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (21)
Dion & The Belmonts (16)
The Coasters (13)
Jackie Wilson (13)
Aretha Franklin (12)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Stevie Wonder (9)
------------------------
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
The Four Tops (3)
B.B. King (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
Johnny Ace (1)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Carl Perkins (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (10)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (6)
Hal Blaine (5)
Lee Allen (4)
James Jamerson (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 12:28pm

Left out a vote for Aretha Franklin

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (21)
Dion & The Belmonts (16)
The Coasters (13)
Aretha Franklin (13)
Jackie Wilson (13)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Stevie Wonder (9)
------------------------
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
The Four Tops (3)
B.B. King (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
Johnny Ace (1)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Carl Perkins (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Dick Clark (5)
Ahmet Ertegun (3)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Frank Sinatra (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
Louis Armstrong (1)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (10)
Earl Palmer (10)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (6)
Hal Blaine (5)
Lee Allen (4)
James Jamerson (4)
James Burton (3)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
King Curtis (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Johnnie Johnson (2)
Chet Atkins (1)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 12:30pm

assman, I saw you changed George Martin from the non-performer to the sideman category, because mrxyz voted for him in that category. But now my vote for George Martin in the non-performer category is missing!

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 11:22am

Claw
If you really think about it.. He was and is the 5th Beatle .. Much of the keyboard work was his along with scoring ,arranging,conducting, engineering ,mixing and producer and etc, etc... ...Sideman is a understatement..

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 18:22pm

Anybody else notice that in "Runaround Sue," Dion complains about a girl's infidelity but then in "The Wanderer" he brags about his own?

Posted by Joker on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 18:46pm

Martin did some limited piano work with them that I know of but you're trying to put him in the same class as Hal Blaine! He would tell you himself that he's not a "sideman"...his forte was producing, and most of the great producers will do whatever is necessary to make a piece great...and sometimes it includes playing a bit.

George Martin has never been nor will he ever be considered a high demand sideman...which is usually how you're nominated for the HoF in that classification. Now, producing is a different story...

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 19:03pm

Gitarzan
Sorry to break your Beatle bubble, but Martin did a "lots" of keyboards for the Beatles along with arranging , scoring,conducting, mixing ,engineering and of course producing.. Heck much if not most of Peppers keyboards is Martin .. Not counting the "Pepper Sound" .. As mentioned "sideman" is underscoring Martin.. Non performer is far from truth 1,000,000's of light ears away..

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 20:43pm

Martin produced all but a few of the Beatles records, not to mention he was a well-established producer before the Beatles, and I believe he continued producing after the Beatles. If you think he should be in both categories, fine, but between the two... even George would say he deserves it more as a Non-Performer.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 20:53pm

even George would say he deserves it more as a Non-Performer.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 20:53pm

I have no idea nor any reason to think George would say that with a straight face... Anything is {possible}
If you think Sir Martin was or is more a non performer with the Beatles and Billy Preston was a sideman more than Martin all I can say is.... ain't no biz like sho biz!! lol

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:01pm

Did George Martin play on people's records besides the Beatles? Anyway, I'm certain George produced more Beatle songs than he played on, so yeah, that would make him more of a Non-Performer than Side-Man, even when dealing with just the myopic scope of the Beatles. Look beyond that though. Over the span of his lengthy career, when dealing with the Beatles or other acts, he was producer more often than he was a Side-Man.

As for Billy Preston, he belongs in as a Performer, not a Side-Man... like a lot of other musicians, he was a guest that was brought in because the Beatles usually behaved better in the studio with special guest musicians. He just happened to get label credit.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:08pm

My point is Martin should of have performer, sideman an I guess non performer...If one calls producing non performing. The Beatles sound is also Martins sound.. it took all 5 to get the "sound" and Martin is a very "BIG BIG" part of the "SOUND".

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:09pm

He played keyboard parts because it was part of his A-R-R-A-N-G-E-M-E-N-T...NOT because he thought his instrumental contribution was vital. He probably thought "why hire a BONAFIDE sideman when I can just play those parts?". He was never sought out as a keyboardist for other artists, and saying he should be mentioned with other great sidemen (like your revered Mr. Blaine) is totally ridiculous.

Can say with a straight face that you could actually picture George Martin as a keyboardist for the Wrecking Crew or Funk Brothers. If you say "yes" I'm gonna take away all of your toys...

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:14pm

Billy did lots of sideman work beyond just the Beatles..... He was really a sideman that got a record deal.. I think of sidemen in many cases higher on the musical food chain than many "Performers"

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:14pm

I would say that's a fair point. But I'm guessing since they've yet to induct anyone in more than one category, I'm guessing we're going with the same constraints... which means if forced to choose, N-P suits Martin better, mainly because it states positively that he was more than just the Beatles producer, and yeah, I do consider producing "Non-Performing" though I understand why you say otherwise.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:14pm

Philip...well, considering someone voted for Chuck Berry as an "early influence" I guess anything's possible. as far as a lot of sidemen being more accomplished musicians than a lot of performers...couldn't agree more!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:20pm

e played keyboard parts because it was part of his A-R-R-A-N-G-E-M-E-N-T...NOT because he thought his instrumental contribution was vital. He probably thought "why hire a BONAFIDE sideman when I can just play those parts?". He was never sought out as a keyboardist for other artists, and saying he should be mentioned with other great sidemen (like your revered Mr. Blaine) is totally ridiculous.

Can say with a straight face that you could actually picture George Martin as a keyboardist for the Wrecking Crew or Funk Brothers. If you say "yes" I'm gonna take away all of your toys...

He was a bizzy man he played Keyboards because he new what he needed.. He is a accomplished classical keyboardist and reed player. One of the best, that also had a ear for producing.. Hard to make it as a classical musician...He just "loved producing".He ..would have fit in well with the Wreaking crew, I am sure Don Randie would love to accompany him ..and I know Hal loved his playing.
Gosh.. just a few hours an coast to coast will be on ..That place is sane compared to this joint.. GOOD NIGHT and DREAM ON
Peace and love though music

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:28pm

Arranging is not playing an instrument... yes, you usually play an instrument to assist in arranging, but on the master recording, the arrangement is not an instrument. Same with producing... remixing is questionable because you often can add in your own effects in the remix (like Phil Spector adding in the sound of a genuine rain shower for the Ronettes' "Walking In The Rain").

As far as being a classically trained musician... all that doesn't mean squat if his contributions towards the perpetuation and evolution of Rock And Roll were not as a musician, but a producer. Now, you've got a decent argument for Side-Man... just that he's better remembered as being their producer, and with good reason.

Now play nice or for the Class of 1990, I'm gonna nominate Link Wray as a Side-Man, just to see if you still cling to that silly definition you tagged to Billy Preston, since it seems to be a higher honor to be named as a Side-Man than a Performer.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 21:47pm

"Joker wrote:

Anybody else notice that in "Runaround Sue," Dion complains about a girl's infidelity but then in "The Wanderer" he brags about his own?"

Yes, I have noticed that actually. I wrote an essay about gender roles being perpetuated through music and used "Runaround Sue"/"The Wanderer" as a main example.

Posted by Jonny on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 23:42pm

As odd as a fellow Mrxyz maybe. It is almost impossible to be able to a arrange and compose with out being a well trained musician. When one attends a classical performance ,the conductor is judged by the performance. Normally musicians are part of the "conductors performance" not the other way around...It is not unusual that the conductor, arranged and scored the "CLASSICAL RECITAL" If in fact, Sir Martin played the keyboards, arrange and scored much of the Beatles recorded music ,then he indeed is a "performer" of the highest degree, Listing to the Beatles music, it is obvious that a classically trained musician was deeply involved on many of their tunes..My guess is it was for the most part Mr Martin's doing..
Please carry on, I do find this amusing...

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 23:46pm

oker wrote:

Anybody else notice that in "Runaround Sue," Dion complains about a girl's infidelity but then in "The Wanderer" he brags about his own?"


Maybe he became a wanderer after Sue or was one before her...Maybe he had a double standard..Maybe they are just songs about life people and the world. I don't see how it matters..They are both good songs

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:04am

No one's arguing that Sir George Martin was not a top-caliber musician. However, in terms of his contributions to the evolution and perpetuation of rock'n'roll, he made his greatest and best-known contributions in ways that did not involve him singing or playing an instrument, but behind the controls and making the decisions. That is why he deserves to be in more as a Non-Performer than as a Side-Man or Performer. And it's really that simple. Now mrxyz makes a fair argument for his inclusion as a Side-Man, and I could possibly go along with it if he'd concede that he also belongs in as a Non-Performer AND if he'd point out where beyond the Beatles George Martin did important work as a session musician (for want of a better term) on other rock artists' records (again, besides the Beatles).

Unfortunately, it appears to be a matter of semantics to him, since he seems to be of the opinion that a control board is a musical instrument (which just gets into philosophy) therefore any producer is also a performing musician on the records s/he produces. Sorry, that just doesn't cut mustard for me.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:05am

"
Maybe he became a wanderer after Sue or was one before her...Maybe he had a double standard..Maybe they are just songs about life people and the world. I don't see how it matters..They are both good songs"

Dion himself likes to recall that his kids joke about how Runaround Sue met The Wanderer, they canceled each other out, and therefore had a long and happy marriage.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:06am

Lot of the new
digital instruments are just sound bits and a mixer of sorts..I have tried to mix an failed miserably . As a matter of fact I have not seen that many musician mix a song that well...I do see that one could look at the mixer at a control board as a conductor of sorts, The mixer is in control of what music goes where.... I will have to give that some thought..

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:19am

Dion himself likes to recall that his kids joke about how Runaround Sue met The Wanderer, they canceled each other out, and therefore had a long and happy marriage.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:06am

Birds of feathers I guess..

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 00:21am

If you don't think that Chuck Berry had influence on the "rock" world you best think again..He was and is beyond just a performer..He is to many things..!

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 09:01am


That's not what I was saying at all. Of course Chuck Berry had an influence on rock. Heck it was more than an influence. You could pretty much say that perhaps no other artist defined or set the template for what rock and roll music was more than Chuck Berry.

But it's redundant to induct him in the "Influences" category when he's already in the Performers category, and the biggest reason for that is, you guessed it, his influence on rock. The argument for supporting a vote for Chuck Berry in the "Influences" category could be used for every single artist that's also been inducted and each and every artist that is inducted in the future. Every artist in out Performers category will be inducted because of their impact and influence on rock and roll music. Or should be.

I was under the impression that the "Influences" category was supposed to be for artists of outside genres of music whom pre-dated rock and roll and helped to inspire the musical evolution of what would become rock and roll (artists like Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Louis Jordan, and Hank Williams) and artists who weren't really "rock artists" but nonetheless influenced rock music and it's respective artists (like B.B. King and Miles Davis). Chuck Berry simply doesn't belong in this category. He's not an early influence on rock and roll nor an outside rock artist who managed to "cross over" and influence rock and roll music and artists. He is Rock and Roll, which is why he's rightfully in the "Performers" category.


But to each their own I guess hehe :)

Posted by Donnie on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 04:21am

Finally ready to post my votes lol....


Performers

B.B. King
The Coasters
Carl Perkins
Jackie Wilson
The Rolling Stones
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder


Influences

Louis Armstrong
Frank Sinatra


Non-Performers

Dick Clark
Ahmet Ertegun


Sidemen

Chet Atkins
Hal Blaine
James Burton
King Curtis
The Funk Brothers
Johnnie Johnson
Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer

Posted by Donnie on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 04:51am

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (22)
Dion & The Belmonts (16)
The Coasters (14)
Jackie Wilson (14)
Aretha Franklin (13)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Stevie Wonder (10)
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Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
B.B. King (4)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
The Four Tops (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
Carl Perkins (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
Johnny Ace (1)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Dick Clark (6)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
Ahmet Ertegun (4)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
Jimmy Yancey (6)
Frank Sinatra (3)
Louis Armstrong (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (11)
Earl Palmer (11)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (7)
The Funk Brothers (7)
Hal Blaine (6)
Lee Allen (4)
James Burton (4)
James Jamerson (4)
Floyd Cramer (3)
Johnnie Johnson (3)
King Curtis (3)
Chet Atkins (2)
Benny Benjamin (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 07:00am

Oh boy, I just came to the realization that Stevie Wonder was actually first eligible in 1988 and not 1989 like we have it. I have always thought that he was inducted in his first year of eligibility. Considering we really can't go back and time and fix the problem we will have to pretend that he was first eligible in 1989. I apologize for the mix up!

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 10:06am

That's alright Gassman, from the looks of it he's getting in this year anyways

Posted by The Drummer on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 10:14am

I was under the impression that the "Influences" category was supposed to be for artists of outside genres of music whom pre-dated rock and roll and helped to inspire the musical evolution of what would become rock and roll (artists like Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Louis Jordan, and Hank Williams) and artists who weren't really "rock artists" but nonetheless influenced rock music and it's respective artists (like B.B. King and Miles Davis). Chuck Berry simply doesn't belong in this category. He's not an early influence on rock and roll nor an outside rock artist who managed to "cross over" and influence rock and roll music and artists. He is Rock and Roll, which is why he's rightfully in the "Performers" category.


But to each their own I guess hehe :)
Posted by Donnie on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 04:21am


Funny you should mention BB King as influence He was inducted as a performer. He should be inducted twice same with Chuck, Richards and a few others ..BB was and is Blues not rock but he got in as a performer in the RRHF

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 10:17am

Donnie, what you're referring to makes sense for an "Early Influence" category. However, the category we're using is simply called "Influence"

Just over one more day of voting left everybody!

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 10:35am

I was under the impression that the "Influences" category was supposed to be for artists of outside genres of music whom pre-dated rock and roll and helped to inspire the musical evolution of what would become rock and roll (artists like Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong, Louis Jordan, and Hank Williams) and artists who weren't really "rock artists" but nonetheless influenced rock music and it's respective artists (like B.B. King and Miles Davis).

Donnie
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This is the idea that I had when I decided to call it "Influences" instead of "Early Influences". If something thinks that Chuck Berry falls into that first category that is their own call. Those who are looking for guidance in this category look at what Donnie said above.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 15:13pm

"Funny you should mention BB King as influence He was inducted as a performer. He should be inducted twice same with Chuck, Richards and a few others ..BB was and is Blues not rock but he got in as a performer in the RRHF"

Right, but he hasn't been inducted yet in our Revisitation. The point of this was 1) to have something to do during the off-season and 2) to see how we on the more laic side would pick our inductees. I think in this case "Influence" and "Performer" are pretty mutually exclusive. When you induct an artist in one, you're saying he can't be in the other. When you induct as Performer, you're acknowledging they were rock 'n' roll. When you induct as Influence, you're specifically saying they WEREN'T rock'n'roll. I think we'd be contradicting ourselves if we inducted him as a Performer in our revisitation because he was inducted as a Performer into the real Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and then induct him AGAIN as an Influence because we don't think he really was a rock'n'roll artist at all.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 15:44pm

, you're acknowledging they were rock 'n' roll. When you induct as Influence, you're specifically saying they WEREN'T rock'n'roll. I think we'd be contradicting ourselves if we inducted him as a Performer in our revisitation because he was inducted as a Performer into the real Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and then induct him AGAIN as an Influence because we don't think he really was a rock'n'roll artist at all.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 15:44pm



BB King is Blues not rock.... ...they have him as a performer It is not even blues rock....Why can't you be more than 1?

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 17:07pm

L-7, you're preaching to the choir on that one... sorta. I think Willie Dixon belongs more as a Non-Performer than Early Influence, Dave Bartholomew more as a Early Influence than Non-Performer... from what I understand, John Hammond could have been both EI and NP (for which Lifetime Achievement has always been a subset of), Little Walter as an EI than Side-Man.

At this point, I would support double inductions for those to set that right, as well as others... but I think between EI and Performer, the difference is time... while a lot of inductees in both categories have significant bleedover between the two timelines, they generally ask which timeline do you belong to more? For that reason, they tend to be mutually exclusive.

We've been a little more defining beyond that, I think, but this is all for fun and academic.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 17:33pm

Calling Chuck Berry an "early influence" is absolutely ridiculous. He got his big break, signed with Chess Records, and recorded "Maybelline" in 1955...nearly a year AFTER Elvis released "That's Alright Mama". So, do we call Elvis an "early influence" too...????

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 19:48pm

I want to bring up something. We're down to the last 12 hours or so of voting and Dion & The Belmonts are clearly a lock but what my concern is is that Dion probably had more impact and influence as a soloist than he did with The Belmonts, so does inducting "Dion & The Belmonts" mean we ignore his solo stuff? Maybe it would make more sense to induct "Dion/Dion & The Belmonts" or something along those lines? That way he doesn't need to be inducted twice, we can get two birds with one stone so to speak.

Anyways let me know what you people think.

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 07:50am

Mr. Octogon, you bring up a very valid point. Personally, I think we should induct Dion & the Belmonts as long as we understand and acknowledge that we are including his his solo work as well.
Kind of like how even though we inducted Buddy Holly & the Crickets, we're still honoring Buddy Holly's solo work.

Posted by Jonny on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 10:59am

Alright I guess that sounds fair

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 11:08am

Sidemen:
Scotty Moore
Bill Black
Hal Blaine
Floyd Cramer
Earl Palmer
James Burton
King Curtis
Chet Atkins

Posted by Jonny on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 13:21pm

Vote Totals So Far (Casper still has one vote left):

The Rolling Stones (22)
Dion & The Belmonts (16)
The Coasters (14)
Jackie Wilson (14)
Aretha Franklin (13)
Marvin Gaye (12)
Stevie Wonder (10)
------------------------
Link Wray (8)
The Dave Clark Five (7)
Eddie Cochran (7)
B.B. King (4)
The Platters (4)
Otis Redding (4)
The Four Tops (3)
Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio (2)
The Chiffons (2)
Carl Perkins (2)
The Righteous Brothers (2)
Del Shannon (2)
The Supremes (2)
Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps (2)
Johnny Ace (1)
The Big Bopper (1)
Gene Chandler (1)
Chubby Checker (1)
Lou Christie (1)
The Crystals (1)
Bobby Darin (1)
Duane Eddy (1)
Bobby Fuller Four (1)
Jimmy Gilmer and Fireballs (1)
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters (1)
Jan & Dean (1)
Little Anthony & The Imperials (1)
Ricky Nelson (1)
Wilson Picket (1)
Paul Revere & The Raiders (1)
Bobby Rydell (1)
Jack Scott (1)
The Searchers (1)
Big Joe Turner (1)
Ike & Tina Turner (1)
Ritchie Valens (1)
Mary Wells (1)

Non-Performers:

Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (14)
Dick Clark (6)
Holland-Dozier-Holland (6)
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Ahmet Ertegun (4)
Lou Adler (1)
Brian Epstein (1)
Nesuhi Ertegun (1)
David S. Gold and Stan Ross (1)
Bernie Lowe (1)
George Martin (1)
Col. Parker (1)
Ed Sullivan (1)

Influences:

Howlin' Wolf (8)
Muddy Waters (7)
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Jimmy Yancey (6)
Frank Sinatra (3)
Louis Armstrong (2)
Billie Holiday (2)
The Ink Spots (2)
Screamin' Jay Hawkins (2)
Chuck Berry (1)
Maybelle Carter (1)
Charlie Christian (1)
John Lee Hooker (1)
Blind Lemon Jefferson (1)
Ravens (1)

Sidemen:

Scotty Moore (12)
Earl Palmer (12)
Billy Preston (9)
Bill Black (8)
The Funk Brothers (7)
Hal Blaine (7)
James Burton (5)
Lee Allen (4)
Floyd Cramer (4)
King Curtis (4)
James Jamerson (4)
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Chet Atkins (3)
Johnnie Johnson (3)
Benny Benjamin (2)
DJ Fontana (2)
Nicky Hopkins (2)
Glenn Campbell (1)
Carol Kay (1)
George Martin (1)
Don Randie (1)