Lokks like I'm numero uno here. Congratulations to everyone inducted. I didn't see Jimmy Cliff for miles, but still, he's most deserving. I thought Otis Blackwell had already made the cut.

BTW, LAX 26 - you have every right to go crazy on this page now! Are you planning to reserve tickets for the ceremony?!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 06:02am

I'm so glad ABBA got in, long overdue for them. Would be nice if they'd reunite for induction, but I'm not holding my breath.

Good for other inductees too, especially Jimmy Cliff. Reggae has been underrepresented in Hall. Hope to see Peter Tosh & Desmond Dekker in there too someday.

Lax26 will be partying hard. I expect a 12,000 word post on how happy he is & how smart the Hall is for finally recognizing the genius that is Genesis.

Hope the Hollies do Bus Stop & Carrie Anne.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 06:35am

It’s an even shittier year than usual for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

On the plus side, after a 10+ year wait, The Stooges are finally getting in. Guess that's what happens when you suck up to the committee and perform madonnas crap, I mean, songs.

Then we have Jimmy Cliff. He was reggae before Bob Marley. That’s cool and all, but how is that Rock?

Then we have The Hollies. I guess if Little Steven is a fan, then a one-hit-wonder can get in. Yeah, I know. Fans of theirs will blow all sorts of sunshine up everyones ass about how they had all these other songs. Truth is, they're one-hit-wonders. Who's next? Katrina and the Waves?

Instead of bands who were actually, you know, good, we get the steaming shitpile that is Abba and Genesis. Truly vomit-worthy.

Oh well. At least Iggy finally gets in.

Posted by Ralph on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 07:24am

The 2010 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

ABBA
Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Hollies
The Stooges
David Geffen
Jesse Stone
Mort Shuman
Otis Blackwell
Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich

No Bernie Taupin induction in 2010, but 7 50s-60s-70s songwriters are being inducted in the Non-Performers category:

Jesse Stone
Mort Shuman
Otis Blackwell
Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich

I guess they had to be inducted first. I hope this opens the door for Bernie Taupin in 2011!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 07:25am

When is the press conference. How did this information come out while we were sleeping?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 08:01am

Surprised the Chilli Peppers didn't make it on their first year of eligibility.

Boo at yet another Donna snub- but yay for ABBA.

And, see- Madonna did The Stooges a favor by having Iggy and company perform last year. :-)

Genesis probably got in for its pre-Phil-Collins-on-lead work, I'd think/ I'm sure Phil Collins won't be considered anytime soon for his solo output (though I do enjoy some of it).

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 09:22am

I am disappointed that Kiss did not make it but congratulations to all that did.

Also, I see we are still getting these dumb lists from Roy.

Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 09:57am

good group of inductees.

we all have our issues with those left out.

mine don t look like they will ever get in:

benetar,heart,chicago,deep purple....

i wonder if we care more than they do ??

Posted by golfer11 on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 10:02am

8 Non-Performer inductees for 2010! The most ever!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 10:17am

WOW!

The Rock and Roll Hall of Lame just gets worse and worse. What a lame class of inductees for 2010.

No Hard Rock, no Heavy Metal. If not for The Stooges there would be no Rock at all!

It's very hard to give the Hall any credibility with all the legendary Rock, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal bands left out. These baffoons wouldn't know good rock music if it bit them in the ASS!

It serves KISS right for not getting inducted. They bad mouthed The Hall for years for not being inducted and as soon as they are nominated they considered it an honor, they should have told the nominating committee to F@#K OFF! Now that's ROCK "N" ROLL!

Posted by spacetrucker on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 11:20am

4 of the 5 are what I would call genre giants. They help create or dominate there section of the rock world. The RnR hall is really about Post Elvis Pop music. Which is good because it makes more interesting than if it was only Classic Rock.

I would take the hollies and put in Deep Purple. They are far away the most glaring omission of a genre giant. Heck the would even make the classic rock hall.

Posted by OCfan on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 11:30am

Well, I picked 4 out of 5. ABBA, Genesis, The Hollies and Jimmy Cliff. I voted for Laura Nyro instead of the Stooges.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 12:17pm

Ralph your comment regarding The Hollies is so ignorant, it's barely woth responding to...but in case another music illiterate such as yourself is reading this site...
The Hollies had a dozen top 40 entries on the Billboard charts.
In Britain they were second only to the Beatles in 60s chart action.
In closing, anyone reading your drivel needs to know you have no idea what you're talking about.
Did you know you were this ignorant? Cheers!

Posted by Steve on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 13:17pm

Excellent class. Best in years, in my opinion. Very excited to see the Stooges and Jimmy Cliff get their due.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 13:31pm

Now who is going to induct who?

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 13:34pm

Ralph calls The Hollies "ONE HIT WONDERS"....

So....Which of their TWENTY THREE USA Chart placed singles...or their THIRTY TWO UK Chart placed singles.....

...or OVER 300 Seperate Worldwide International Charts placed singles hits ("Bus Stop" charting in 12 countries..."He Ain't Heavy" in 23 countries etc) ...including some 32 No.1 position records in seperate International charts around the world...

Plus NINETEEN Overseas Chart hits with songs that where never issued as UK Singles....

....do you want to select as the particular "One Hit" Ralph ?

up to 1970 The Beatles had some 22 "Official singles" UK Chart hits....and SO DID The Hollies

In that time up to 1970, the Hollies in fact had MORE UK Chart hits than: The Rolling Stones, The Who, Manfred Mann, The Searchers, The Small Faces, The Move,herman's Hermits,The Animals, The Moody Blues, Gerry & The Pacemakers...and many more.

Posted by Dave on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 13:42pm

Spacetrucker bemoans No Hard Rock or Heavy Metal...

Obviously hasn't heard some of The Hollies Rock tracks then...

Umpteen Rock & Roll tracks & original Rockers between 1963 and 1965..

Hard Hard Year - Note Tony Hicks "Heavy Rock" guitar solo , cut in 1966 !

Have You Ever Loved Somebody - Fuzz guitar in 1967

Tomorrow When it Comes - Blistering Psychedelic guitar from 1968

Hey Willy - Heavier Rocker from 1971
Long Cool Woman - Lean guitar Rockin from 1971

Promised Land - Heavier guitar 1971
You Know The Score - more Heavy guitar from 1971
Pull Down The Blind - cool rock guitars from 1971

Courage of Your Convictions - 1972 Rock
Slow Down - likewise

Nearer To You - Heavier track 1973
Transatlantic Westbound Jet - 1973 Rockin' jam version and a 1974 Rocker

Out on The Road - 1973 and 1974 versions - each version another Rocker
Curly Billy - 1973 Rocker

Tip of The Iceberg - 1974 Rockin' track
You Gave Me Life - 1975 "Phased" Rockin guitarwork

Look Out Johnny - 1975 Rocker
Crocodile Woman - 1976 Heavier Rockin guitar

48 Hour Parole - 1976 Heavier Rocker
Russian Roulette - Likewise
Loiuse - Likewise

Burn Out - 1978 Rockin' track
Crossfire - likewise
Satelitte Three - 1979 Heavy Rock guitar solo

Somethin' Ain't Right - 1983 Rockin' track
Laughter Turns To Tears - 1985 Rocker
Purple Rain - 1995 Heavy Rock Live version

Weakness - 2006 Rockin track

...while a "Heavy live" Extended version of "Long Cool Woman" recorded in New Zealand in the 1990's lasting over Ten minutes Deserves an Official release !

listen to ALL THOSE Tracks...then say If there are No Rock or Heavier sounding Rock Acts inducted in 2010....(?)

Posted by Bob on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 14:11pm

I knew that Kiss would get snubbed. Very few Hard Rock bands get in on their first nomination. They'll probably have to wait a few more years.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 14:23pm

Impressed. I picked Genesis, ABBA, and the Hollies, who are in, but also picked Donna Summer and KISS, who aren't. No matter, this class is saved by the three I picked right. Overall, this is a very deserving class. Congratulations to all!

Posted by Dr. W on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 14:31pm

BOO HISS--Donna Summer should have been inducted. She is still out there and going strong. Did any voting members not see her amazing performance at the Nobel Peace Prize concert. I know she is always labeled disco but she has had more rock success than most other inductees including Madonna. She even has a rock grammy to prove it. Shame on these lame voters for snubbing her again. And...how could you not take KISS. They are the most theatrical rock group in the last 20 year. It must be a political thing.

Posted by John on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 16:11pm

Well I have to say, I'm pleased with the inductions of Genesis, The Hollies and The Stooges. The induction of The Hollies might open the way for acts like The Small Faces, The Zombies, The Turtles, The Troggs, etc. The induction of Genesis might hopefully signal the entry of more prog. The Stooges were obviously long overdue. As for ABBA and Jimmy Cliff, I'm leaning towards being positive that they're both in. Overall, I have nothing against any of the inductees this year and support the majority of them. Still though, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Deep Purple, T.Rex, Dire Straits, etc should all be recognized. Not to mention dozens of other notables.

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 16:59pm

Keebord...don't forget the "special induction" ceremony for Gabriel, Banks, Rutherford, their manager, road manager, roadies, sound check, groupies, everyone but Phil Collins, etc...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 17:15pm

It has happened, at long last!

I still am in a suprised state of awe. Genesis, which at the very least are the "as a band" works of Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford, are gong to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2010. Even if this does not include their individual careers, this is a highly important milestone for these four artists, and Phil Collins, in being fully given an honor for a noted part of their careers and recordings and songs.

This does not, though, stop the continual advocacy of individual inductions for Gabriel, Hackett, Banks, and Rutherford. Most notably, Peter Gabriel should be inducted on his own accord for the next induction Class of 2011 just for good measure. And yes, I will still continue to state Gabriel's case for individual induction.

The big question now is, will they reunite one more time? They appear to be still friendly and accomodating towards each other. An ideal situation would be if the five reunited during some point in Peter Gabriel's upcoming "Scratch My Back" tour, including two stops at the O2 Arena in March. Maybe, just maybe, the long-awaited re-imagining of "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" will be performed live, and kept on tape for posterity.

My congradulations also go out to Jimmy Cliff, a much deserved honoree. It will be interesting to see what Cliff does in the near future.

ABBA has also been finally inducted. Agnetha Falkstog, Benny Andersson, Bjorn Ulvearus, and Anni-Frid Lyngstad were responsible for electro-dance-pop that is lyrically deep, and more sustainable than most other contemporaries. I do not know if a re-union will take place, considering long-standing reluctance to travel extensively on the part of Agnetha Falkstog in particular. It would certainly be nice, and maybe somewhat bittersweet. Hopefully, this induction for ABBA includes the initial "Chess" album; not from ABBA, yet the one album that should have been but was not to be.

The snubs are finished for The Stooges. Iggy Pop, James Williamson, the Asheton Brothers (Scott and Ron), and Mike Watt are now inductees. I am not certain if this includes Iggy's own works outside of The Stooges, though it should. It is rather sad that Ron Asheton did not live to see this induction occur. We shall see how these guys respond to this induction.

Where Little Steven Van Zandt and I agree upon is for the Hollies to be inducted. This has now happened. And from what I have read, I am happily pleased that Graham Nash is wanting to reunite with his old mates for the first time in some 26 years. Honestly, considering Nash was inducted on his own accord in the Class of 1997, I did not think this would happen. As I have mentioned before, it would be really nice to see Nash, Tony Hicks, Terry Sylvester, and Bernie Calvert in the same area together. Plus, we have not heeard much from Allan Clarke in recent years; this should be a welcome return for Clarke. Nice to also know that Nash and Clarke are still in close contact with each other in the 62 years since they first met.

For a re-union, I think it is up to Tony Hicks, and probably Bobby Elliott, to let go of perceived dissing, and perform with Nash, Sylvester, Calvert, and Clarke one more time. Maybe not related, but as a bit of a nod to Eric Woolfson, I would like to hear Terry Sylvester and the rest of the mates do "To One in Paradise".

David Geffen is being inducted in what is now called the Ahmet Ertegun Award. No suprise there. Subsequently, I look forward to Doug Morris being inducted for the Class of 2011. I also feel it was a nice gesture to induct a great deal of the Brill Building songwriters. Otis Blackwell, in particular, should have been inducted sooner before he passed away. The same goes for Ellie Greenwich, though it is nice that Jeff Barry will live to see this induction happen. Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil are both well deserving. Same goes for Jesse Stone, and Mort Shulman. Maybe the next induction ceremonies will include Bernie Taupin, or perhaps Randy Newman or Laura Nyro, or, dare I say it, Sir Tim Rice.

In any case, congradulations to all inductees for ther RRHOF Class of 2010. Special recognition also goes out to the voters, whom realized a bit of a pickle it would have been to justify Darlene Love as an inductee. I will say, though, that I really expected Donna Summer to go in. In any event, four of my five predictions for induction came to pass. Now, off to try to seek if I could get a reservation at the Waldorf-Astoria on March 15. I hope this will do the trick, of the tail:).

Seeking an induction for Peter Gabriel on his own for the Class of 2011,

Lax26

Posted by Lax26 on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 17:34pm

With the induction of Mann/Weil and Barry/Greenwich this year, that might pave the way for Bacharach/David and Sedaka/Greenfield in future years. (though Neil Sedaka is a performer as well) Also if Barry/Greenwich got in, that could open the door for Neil Diamond. ND's first album was produced by Barry/Greenwich. And what about the artists who had hits with B/G songs, The Crystals (Da Do Ron Ron) the Dixie Cups (Chapel Of Love) Manfred Mann (Do Wah Diddy Diddy), The Shangri-Las (Leader Of The Pack) and Tommy James and the Shondells (Hanky Panky).
Now that Genesis is going in, that might open the floodgates for more prog bands like ELO, ELP, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, the Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Roxy Music, the Alan Parsons Project and Yes.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 18:22pm

Pros:

- The Stooges - Finally!
- Jimmy Cliff - Never thought this would happen
=ABBA/Genesis - Both undeniably worthy
- The shittiest act, Kiss, wasn't inducted. Neither was the woman of marginal credentials, Darlene Love.
- The Red Hot Chili Peppers are rather questionable in terms of innovation. Good to at least see them wait.


Cons:

- The Hollies - Like DC5, another mostly forgotten commercially successful Brit Pop act from the 60's...nobody really is influenced by them.
- Surprised that they didn't induct Laura Nyro as a songwriter, especially given all the non-performer inductees this year.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 18:24pm

Ralph, Jimmy Cliff was also soul, which is VERY much a part of rock'n'roll.

Looks like my downward trend continues.... I'm now a pitiful 2/5 this year, and 14/20 lifetime of guessing (I started in 2007). I'm glad the Stooges got in this time. And sad Darlene Love didn't. Darlene Love is truly a deserving candidate and Lax only shows what a completely ignorant choad he is by saying otherwise.

But on the bright side, this year's class does indeed shine brightly... they finally did some SERIOUS justice to the Non-Performer category, although, it's a bit amazing that there are more Non-Performers this year than Performers. Still, Barry & Greenwich and Mann & Weil have been LONG overdue, and Mort Shuman should've been inducted 17 years ago with his partner Doc Pomus. Blackwell also deserving of his nod. Geffen, we all saw coming. Jesse Stone's the only one in this year's crop that I had not heard of, but the more I research into him, the more I'm glad he got in.

This is also the first year they inducted Non-Performers, whose primary contributions were as songwriters, since Allen Toussaint, back in '98. As far as songwriters go, I hope the next moves will be for Steve Barri & P.F. Sloan, as well Kal Mann & Dave Appell, though the latter would require them to get off their high horse and recognize the importance of the Cameo-Parkway labels to rock'n'roll music... not likely, which also means don't look for CamPark founder Bernie Lowe to get his just due anyday soon. Oh well. Here's also hoping Bob Crewe makes it someday, too.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 18:38pm

All right, the Hollies finally got in!!!!! It made my day! I wonder if David Crosby and Stephen Stills will induct them... wouldn't that be something?

Posted by Elizabeth on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 18:40pm

Hey O'Donnell! Like the comment on Genesis. Don't forget that since Genesis, got in, it also means Rush's chances for induction are probably going up with the other bands you mentioned. Also, did you hear that there is going to be a documentary about Rush opening up next year. It is done by Sam Dunn (Headbanger's Journey). That will also increase Rush's chances as well.

Posted by G on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 19:06pm

Finally a year that doesn't suck. Maybe this'll open a door to better acts in the near future

Posted by danny on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 19:11pm

Solid class.

Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 19:37pm

If I remember, I had Abba and the Hollies, but thought that Kiss, (especially) Donna Summer and RCHP would make the cut. I am surprised that, of those I predicted, ABBA and the Hollies were the ones I got right. I thought that Donna Summer's and Kiss's credentials were better than Abba and (especially) the Hollies.

Goes to show what I know...

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 20:04pm

Phillip...I concur 100% with Steve Barri and PF Sloan induction worthiness.

Posted by Steve on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 20:20pm

one down another to go RUSH 2012

Posted by Robert on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 20:22pm

Okay, everyone, this is inevitable, so we may as well get started...who is on your list for 2011?

My choices, in alphabetical order...

Pat Benatar
Cheap Trick
Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler
The Doobie Brothers
Daryl Hall and John Oates
Heart
Billy Idol
Kiss
The Moody Blues
Rush
Ringo Starr as a soloist
Donna Summer

...and a few others I am forgetting. Congrats to all the winners, and to all of us--okay, you--who predicted them!

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 21:14pm

Overall a very solid group of inductees. I admit to being surprised and thrilled that HOF voters were ready to acknowledge ABBA's overwhelming international influence, and on just their second nomination. Very cool: The recognition that the roots of rock extend not just to the US and UK but around the globe. I'm not sure I see the four abandoning their long-held conviction that a reunion performance would be a mistake, but just seeing them stand together on stage would be outstanding.

Posted by ns_kid on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 02:43am

Casper says Nobody was really influenced by the Hollies and The Dave Clark Five....

Oh Really....?

Check out "Walk like Any Egyptian" by the Bangles...and even "I'm A Man" by Chicago...note how each verse is sung by a different vocalist ? - well the Hollies were doing that way back in 1964 on "Too Much Monkey Business"...and most famously "Carrie Anne" in 1967 (Graham Nash singing a THREE Part Chorus Harmony on that too !).

Also Way back in 1966 Tony Hicks played a HEAVY METAL rock guitar solo on "Hard Hard Year"

....and The Hollies used taped sound effects in 1965 ("Too Many People") a year BEFORE The Beatles first did on "Yellow Submarine"

Steve Stills has paid tribute to The Hollies as one of his Fav bands...

Beach Boy Legend Brian Wilson has done likewise...

BOTH Paul Simon (1966) and Bruce Springsteen (1974) visited the Hollies in New york & THANKED them for covering their songs "I Am A Rcok" & "Sandy" Respectively....

Pete Ham of Badfinger originally named the group "The Iveys" in tribute to his FAVORITE harmony Band - The Hollies

Eric Clapton said Tony Hicks intro & guitar solo on "The Air That I breathe" was the MOST Soulful guitar he'd heard & Wished HE had played it...!

JIMI HENDRIX was SO Impressed with the Album cover of The Hollies "Evolution" in 1967 (his Experience Drummer 'Mitch'Mitchell had deputised on a track "The Games We play") ..that jimi sought out photographer Karl Ferris to do his USA Sleeve of "Are You experienced ?"

While "Evolution" cover Designers Simon & Marijke..next were asked to do The Beatles "Sgt. Pepper"

The Rolling Stones had Clarke, Hicks & nash guest on two early 1964 album tracks...and Andrew Loog Oldham later "Thanked" Hicks & Nash on "Metamorphosis" sleeve in 1975.

The Everly Brothers - with Hollie band members help & Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones (who played Bass on a Hollies 'B' side in 1966) - cut an album of 75% Hollies songs "Two Yanks in England" in 1966

The Searchers covered their song "Have You Ever Loved Somebody" & had a UK hit in 1967...

Rainbow Drummer Cozy Powell decided to BECOME a Drummer after hearing Bobby Elliott's drumming on "Here I Go Again" in 1964...Genesis Phil Collins sites Elliott as a Drumming influence too !

The young Elton John got his FIRST Publishing Deal from The Hollies Gralto Music Ltd in 1969...and played piano on two of their hits.

Graham Nash has guested on umpteen famous artists recordings...from Everly Brothers to Art Garfunkel to Dave Gilmour etc..

Alan Parsons produced a Hollies single in 1976 and had both Allan Clarke & Terry Sylvester do Guest vocals on his Alan Parsons Project albums.

Linda Rhonstadt covered both "I Can't Let Go" & "Just One Look" - both earlier Hollies hits.

Simply Red later covered "The Air That I Breathe"

the Hollies were one of the three "Foundation bands" of C,S, N & Y along with The Byrds & Buffalo Springfield.

The Hollies cut a Full vocal group Tribute album Devoted to just ONE specific Artist - Bob Dylan - released in May 1969 - something unheard of back then...today such "Tribute" Albums by Bands are considered as the norm...

so much for NOBODY ever being influenced by The Hollies then...?

while Berry Gordy once told Dave Clark the percussive beat on DC5 records Directly influenced the sound of Motown's sixties records...and The Supremes covered several DC5 songs on their albums too...later Julian Lennon covered their song "Because".

So maybe Casper ought to think again...?

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 04:10am

Dave, you are right to point out that they had a large effect on their PEERS and the music audience OF THE TIME...but the artists that have really been breaking ground the last thirty or so years owe next to nothing to the Hollies or the Dave Clark Five...I don't see Animal Collective or Grizzly Bear or Pavement or Radiohead or the Flaming Lips really citing those as influences. I mean, even Donna Summer's discogrpahy and Darlene Love's work with Phil Spector has undoubtedly been more influential in indie music circles than those two groups.

Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 04:41am

I think it's time Black groups start boycotting the RockHall and create a Soul/R&B only Hall. How in the hell are the Hollies or ABBA more important than the Ohio Players, War or Chic. There is this idea that Rock groups are more "artistic" i.e. Stooges than funk groups. P-Funk has been in for years yet they were influenced directly by the Ohio Players. There has never been a Black publication as influential as "Rolling Stone". That zine has always skewed towards Rock groups in their list. This rock hall thing is a joke now. Black groups need to walk the funk out.

Posted by Charles on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 06:52am

Casper, you need to put your personal issues aside. There are a lot of bands who are in who haven't influenced anybody more than their peers. Besides, Grizzly Bear, Pavement and Flaming Lips aren't RRHOF worthy. Also, some of the groups Dave mentioned, like Badfinger, the Alan Parsons Project and Rainbow came after The Hollies and weren't really their peers anyways

Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 07:08am

Hey Charles. Get your head out of your ass. One black group, The Ohio Players haven't been inducted and you go blaming the Hall? Have you seen the amount of black inductees in the Hall? No funk, huh? Ever heard of Parliament-Funkadelic? You need to stop being such an over-sensitive racist

Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 07:14am

And what do you base your "artistic" merits on? Besides, War and Chic have both been previously nominated so it's not the way you said it was. And don't forget that Eric Burdon played a large part in War and he isn't black last time I checked

Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 07:16am

I'm glad that Ellie Greenwich, Otis Blackwell, The Hollies, Genesis with Phil Collins all finally got in and Kiss did not!

Now I hope Jeff Lynne's Electric Light Orchestra will get inducted in 2011 as a finale of their upcoming 40th Anniversary celebration...

Rick

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 08:59am

does anyone remember how huge Chicago was for more than a decade.

i think people forget since the past 20 years they have been a tribute band without original members .

i guess people forget how talented this group was.

i bet if they packed it in 20 years ago - they would have been in

Posted by golfer11 on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 09:33am

I'm very glad The Hollies, The Stooges and Genesis got in! about time! It's unfair that KISS is still not inducted, because their influence is undeniable, but there are definitely groups that should go in before them.

SWEET, SLADE, T.REX, URIAH HEEP, WISHBONE ASH, DEEP PURPLE, RAINBOW, NAZARETH, ELO, ELP, YES, KING CRIMSON, THE MOODY BLUES, PROCOL HARUM, VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR should all be eventually recognized by the hall! I'm hoping that the next year will bring us more good inductees!

ps glad that peppers did not get in, there are way more deserving bands than them!

Posted by Roman on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 10:17am

Re golfer11 remarks about Chicago...

rFunny I thought Robert Lamm, James Pankow, Walt Parazaider & Lee Loughnane....were ALL Original members of Chicago....and were on the First album "Chicago Transit Authority"

Posted by Wilko on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 11:20am

Caspar....you don't seem to understand that MANY acts are influenced by artists...who THEMSELVES were duly influenced by artists from the Sixties....

Any band who CHANGE their GUITARS around....OWE a debt to bands like Beatles, Hollies, Stones etc...who used Gibsons, Vox phantom 12 strings, Rickenbackers, Guitar/sitar....

Any band who use Unusual instruments...like Gongs, flutes, Mellotrons, Harmoniums, glockenspel, "Phassed" sounds, taped Sound effects, Layered vocals, sitars, Vocals given Electrical effects, etc....owe to bands such as Beatles, Hollies, Stones, etc....

Any band seeking to CONTROL their OWN business affairs & not get Fleeced by the music industry "Establishment" OWE a debt to bands like The Hollies - who obtained a "Leasing Back" deal with EMI records in 1966 and TOOK CONTROL of their own song....they also formed their Own Publishing Company in 1965....

Any Post Punk or indy guitarist owes Sixties bands....and guitar bands like The Ventures, The Shadows, The Spotnicks etc a debt....for breaking new ground re Ampilfication of guitars sound....pushing the Bass guitar & Rhythm guitars up front....building up a stronger Drum sound...and pioneering dual Lead guitars & featured Guitar soloing...etc...creating a new TOUGHER sound...without which groups like Radiohead etc, would have had NO initial basis for their sound...!

it's called Rock History....

i

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 11:33am

Robert Lamm, James Pankow, Walt Parazaider & Lee Loughnane

Those are four of the seven original members of Chicago and they are still with Chicago!!!!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 11:38am

my bad

almost half of the band is gone.

anyway they were one of my favorite U.S bands - although i stopped counting after chicago 8 - what are they up to chicago 400 ????

still i think they should have more consideration

Posted by golfer11 on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 12:26pm

I'm with Casper on this. I happen to like the Hollies, so don't think this is just an excuse for me to bash a band. However, he does have a point regarding the level of influence RIGHT NOW. With the exception of MAYBE Fleet Foxes, there's not much you can say regarding the Hollies influence on the present. Reason I say this is earlier there was a comment posted:
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Casper, you need to put your personal issues aside. There are a lot of bands who are in who haven't influenced anybody more than their peers. Besides, Grizzly Bear, Pavement and Flaming Lips aren't RRHOF worthy. Also, some of the groups Dave mentioned, like Badfinger, the Alan Parsons Project and Rainbow came after The Hollies and weren't really their peers anyways

Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 07:08am
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Technically, the Hollies influence runs for about 20 years before it really fades out. Now if a band like Pavement, lets say, has an influence that lasts that long, but goes no further, could you still not say they were the equivalent of the Hollies? In which case, wouldn't that make them at least worthy of consideration?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 18:59pm

As for ABBA, that's not for me to say. I've never been any kind of a fan of ABBA's, so it would not be right for me to comment in any depth.

Suffice to say, I've never heard what was so special about them. However, many people claim they are in fact quite special & influential. Therefore, congratulations to ABBA, & I hope all their fans will enjoy a potential reunion, if in fact one does happen.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 19:04pm

GENESIS! Finally, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are observing prog!

Abba and the Stooges get in also. Great job. Too bad Kiss got rejected.

Definitely a good year.

Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 19:38pm

Also glad to see that LL Cool J was rejected. The idea to expand into hip hop was ludicrous.

One would think the Chili Peppers would've gotten in, but oh well.

ABBA- pop
Hollies- rock
Stooges- punk
Genesis- prog
Jimmy Cliff- reggae

The rejected:

Kiss- metal
LL Cool J- hip hop
Donna Summer- disco
Red Hot Chili Peppers- alternative
Chantels
Laura Nyro
Darlene Love

Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 19:54pm

Van Der Graaf Generator, Wishbone Ash, etc, will never get in because no one knows who they are. ABBA are one of the most successful groups in history. Sure they aren't rock, but if the RRHF wants to play it that way, fine. If they actually inducted artists like that, there'd be people whining about not having any big acts.

Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 20:32pm

"Van Der Graaf Generator, Wishbone Ash, etc, will never get in because no one knows who they are"

Posted by Lucario on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 20:32pm

Well, that's just great! Thank you for a very thoughtful comment! So the fact that innovation and influence are two most important factors are suddenly forgotten again, eh?

Wishbone Ash, so you know, have influenced directly or indirectly most heavy/power/speed metal acts including Judas Priest and Iron Maiden for that matter. They pioneered the dual lead guitar solo. Innovation - check. Influence - check.

Van Der Graaf Generator and Peter Hammil pretty much showed the whole world that music can be heavy without distorted guitars. They influenced numerous prog-rock, prog/metal acts. Plus they influenced many electronica acts, including Aphex Twin, by their innovative use of synthesizers. Innovation - check. Influence - check.

I'm not going to say that everything else does not matter, but saying that band will not be inducted just because it is not 'big' at the moment is ridiculous.
And by the way Wishbone Ash are decently known in the UK, Europe, Russia, so is VDGG, especially in Italy.

Posted by Child in Time 27 on Wednesday, 12.16.09 @ 21:53pm

Innovation and influence fame does not make. The artists have to also be successful and well-known.

Speaking of influences, no Early Influence this year? Dang. Was hoping for Tommy Johnson at least.

Posted by Lucario on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 00:20am

Innovation and influence fame does not make. The artists have to also be successful and well-known

Posted by Lucario on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 00:20am

You are wrong.

Posted by Liam on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 01:59am

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/12/15/the-stooges-genesis-abba-lead-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fames-class-of-2010/

2010 Rock Hall at Rolling Sone

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 04:27am

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31347756/the_stooges_genesis_abba_lead_the_rock_and_roll_hall_of_fames_class_of_2010

Another 2010 Rock Hall page at Rolling Stone

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 04:29am

The rejection of KISS is an absolute disgrace, and stems from a long-standing bias against hard rock on behalf of the voters, emanating from the days when the self-appointed rock intelligentsia didn't "get" Led Zeppelin. Read my rant: http://larrygetlen.com

Posted by Larry on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 06:58am

Sorry for the double comment - URL didn't come up clickable. http://www.larrygetlen.com

Posted by Larry on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 06:59am

Last year, Bobby Womack was inducted and nobody predicted his induction. This year, the same thing happened to Jimmy Cliff. So by degree, Jimmy Cliff is 2010's Bobby Womack...

Posted by Ketchup on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 07:08am

This is a pretty strong group of inductees. It's the best since at least 2003, in my opinion. I'm especially excited about Genesis, my original favorite band from my childhood in in mid-80s.

My only criticism of this induction group (I don't like the term "class of 2010" - what "class" are they in, exactly?) is that all inductees originated in the '60s or early '70s - and that was a long time ago. More modern artists are still not getting much attention. I'm a little surprised that another of my favorites, RHCP, was snubbed. But it was their first year eligible so it's hard to get too worked up about that.

Congrats to all inductees and their fans.

Posted by A-Killa on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 08:22am

Re that comment by Casper....

You CAN'T say someone's influence "Runs out" after so many years....

IF an artist in the fifties or sixties influences a seventies artist....who in turn influences a 90's artist....the OVERALL Influence has been carried on !

Someone mentions Rock band Wishbone Ash...their main Axe man Andy Powell was Very influenced by UK Guitar Band The Shadows...see their "Greatest Hits" Album on Andy's floor in his innersleeve photo on "Wishbone Four" album.....

Wishbone Ash are a Guitar led ROCK Band....but The Shadows influence is ALWAYS within Them...in Andy Powell....and so with those musicians influenced BY Andy Powell's playing & Wishbone's music...

Likewise with all other bands & their own influences....being duly passed on to another generation of musicians

Posted by Don on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 11:15am

Of the five main inductees, only the Stooges are from the USA.

ABBA=Sweden
Jimmy Cliff=Jamaica
Genesis=Great Britain
The Hollies=Great Britain

The year in which they inducted the most foreign acts was 1994, They inducted SIX foreign acts:

The Animals=Great Britain
The Band=Canada
Elton John=Great Britain
John Lennon=Great Britain
Bob Marley=Jamaica
Rod Stewart=Great Britain

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 11:22am

^ Great find Aaron. After this year the Hall of Fame has representitives from (If I am missing anything please tell me):

Canada
Ireland
Jamacia
Mexico
Sweeden
United Kingdom
United States

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 14:50pm

You missed Australia. And it's "Sweden" and "Jamaica"

Posted by Milestones on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 15:57pm

Here are all the countries represented in the RRHOF:

Australia (AC/DC)
Canada (The Band, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell and Neil Young)
Ireland (Van Morrison an U2)
Jamaica (Jimmy Cliff and Bob Marley)
Mexico (Santana)
Turkey (the Ertegun brothers)
United Kingdom
United States

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 16:36pm

Nope Aaron, you missed ABBA (Sweden)

Posted by Bassmaster on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 17:59pm

Countries represented in RRHoF

Australia (AC/DC)
Canada (The Band, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell and Neil Young)
Ireland (Van Morrison and U2)
Jamaica (Jimmy Cliff and Bob Marley)
Mexico (Santana)
Sweden (ABBA)
Turkey (the Ertegun brothers)
United Kingdom
United States

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 12.17.09 @ 18:18pm

I have talked the Genesis/ABBA connection in an earlier post. Here it goes again. Genesis recorded their album "Duke" at ABBA's Polar Studios in late '79. Three years later Phil Collins and Daryl Stuermer, Genesis' stage guitarist from 1978 onwards played on Frida's big solo hit "(I Know)There's Something Going On" from the album of the same name which had Collins and Stuermer all over it. You can definitely Phil on backing vocals.
Here's an interesting.one for you, Donna Summer, one of this year's snubs had a connection with Yes and Aphrodite's Child. In 1982 Donna recorded "State of Independence," a song recorded the previous year by Jon (Anderson) & Vangelis. Vangelis' greatest claim was the score for "Charionts Of Fire."

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 02:21am

No KISS or RHCP? Are you f**king kidding me? They need new voters. All they needed were the Peppers and KISS and it would've been a good class. Yeah, they have the Stooges and Genesis, but NO KISS OR RHCP? I'll apply for a job as a voter if I need to.

Posted by SSR on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 07:46am

http://www.rockhall.com/induction2010/

Congratulations to the 2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees!

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation has announced ABBA, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, The Hollies and The Stooges as its 2010 artist inductees. Also being inducted this year as individual recipients of the Ahmet Ertegun Award will be David Geffen and songwriters Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Elle Greenwich, Jeff Barry, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman and Otis Blackwell. The ceremony will take place on March 15, 2010 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City and will air live on Fuse, Madison Square Garden’s national music television network, as part of the three-year broadcast deal between the Foundation and Fuse.

“We are very happy to present this year’s inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as they represent a great cross-section of artists that define the broad spectrum and history of rock and roll and people that have contributed immeasurably to our business” says Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation President & CEO Joel Peresman.

The performer inductees are:
ABBA
GENESIS
JIMMY CLIFF
THE HOLLIES
THE STOOGES

Ahmet Ertegun Award (nonperformers):
DAVID GEFFEN
BARRY MANN & CYNTHIA WEIL
ELLIE GREENWICH & JEFF BARRY
JESSE STONE
MORT SHUMAN
OTIS BLACKWELL



The 2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performer inductees were chosen by more than 500 voters of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Artists are eligible for inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twenty-five years after their first recording is released.

All inductees are ultimately represented in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland, Ohio. Through approaches as creative and diverse as the music itself, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum
tells the story of rock music with its exhibits, education programs and Library and Archives, which will open to the public in downtown Cleveland in late 2010.

Presenters and performers at the induction will be announced at a later date. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony will be televised live on Fuse; more information can be found at fuse.tv.

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ABBA
They are one of the biggest-selling acts in pop-history – and if Stockholm is now a hit making mecca, it’s because ABBA first put Sweden on rock’s global map. The four members came together in enchanting, late-1960s post-Euro-hippie fashion – initialed for the two couples, Agnetha ‘Anna’ Fältskog and Björn Ulvaeus; and Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid ‘Frida’ Lyngstad. ABBA was a dominant music force throughout the 70’s, and world¬wide licensing deals made Polar Music the second biggest corporation in Sweden. Bjorn and Benny’s studio finesse over the course of ABBA’s eight studio LPs drew wide praise from pure pop punks and New Wavers for whom ABBA became a guilty pleasure. They went their solo ways in 1982, but tribute albums and the boffo musical Mamma Mia are keeping ABBA on permanent display.



GENESIS
Almost no group in rock history has had such a long and varied career as Genesis, who began as a cult art-rock band in England in the late 1960’s and went on to pack stadiums across the globe in the 1980’s, 1990’s and on their 2007 reunion tour. In the early 1970’s frontman Peter Gabriel shocked audiences and grabbed headlines by taking the stages in outrageous costumes and occasionally even levitating above the audience. Their music was equally innovative, and early albums Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are two of the most acclaimed prog-rock albums in the history of the genre. In 1975 Gabriel left the band to pursue a solo career and drummer Phil Collins stepped out from behind the kit to take over. The band experienced many more hits and successful worldwide tours over the next 30 years.



JIMMY CLIFF
Very few single albums can be said to have changed music forever. Jimmy Cliff’s The Harder They Come is one. The album – and the movie that spawned it – introduced reggae to a worldwide audience and changed the image of the genre from cruise ship soundtrack to music of rebellion and inspiration. “Sitting in Limbo,” “The Harder They Come,” “You Can Get It If You Really Want,” and “Many Rivers to Cross” made Jimmy Cliff the first international reggae superstar and created the model that Bob Marley would soon follow. A beautifully gifted singer and a uniquely influential songwriter, Jimmy Cliff has made a profound impact on rock and pop music all over the world for 40 years.



THE HOLLIES
Above all, it was the wide-open three-part vocal harmonies of original members Allan Clarke, Graham Nash, and Tony Hicks, inspired by the Everly Brothers, that gave the Hollies a sound apart from other British Invasion beat groups. Songwriter Graham Gouldman supplied them with “Look Through Any Window” and “Bus Stop.” And the original writing talent of Clarke, Nash, and lead guitarist Tony Hicks took over on “Stop! Stop! Stop!” and “On a Carousel,” as the Hollies went on to chart 21 consecutive Top 20 UK hits through 1970. After Nash’s departure in 1968, new hits carried them into the mid-70’s including “He Ain’t Heavy, He's My Brother,” “Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress,” “Long Dark Road,” “Magic Woman Touch,” “The Air That I Breathe,” and others.




THE STOOGES
The “Big Bang” that became punk, alternative, heavy metal, new wave, grunge, hardcore and industrial music, could very well have been the advent of Iggy and the Stooges in Ann Arbor in the late 1960’s. Confrontational, out of the mainstream and the complete antitheses of the hippie movement, the Stooges were adopted by those on the margins of rock. Their debut Elektra LP was produced in four days by the Velvet Undergound’s John Cale and contained at least three landmarks: “I Wanna Be Your Dog,” “No Fun” and “1969.” Immediately embraced in New York, London and Los Angeles for the nuclear-powered simplicity of their music, the ironic nihilism of their lyrics, and the persona of Iggy himself, the Stooges have become icons in the history of modern music.




ABOUT THE AHMET ERTEGUN AWARD RECIPIENTS:
DAVID GEFFEN began his legendary career in the William Morris Agency mailroom, quickly becoming an agent, before leaving to form his own management and then record label. He signed artists who have now become legends, including Laura Nyro, The Eagles, Jackson Browne, Crosby Stills and Nash, Tom Waits and Linda Ronstadt. David founded Geffen Records in 1980, whose artist roster included John Lennon, Aerosmith, Peter Gabriel, Guns N Roses, Nirvana and many more iconic artists. More recently David formed the film and entertainment company SKG, along with Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg. David has been and continues to be involved in many philanthropic endeavors.

The Ahmet Ertegun Award will also be presented to an extraordinary group of songwriters who wrote some of the most classic, lasting songs of the 20th century and defined the “Brill Building sound”. Husband and wife songwriting team BARRY MANN and CYNTHIA WEIL, have had an extraordinary impact on the past five decades of popular music. Their numerous hits include: “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling” (with Phil Spector), “On Broadway” (with Leiber and Stoller), “We Gotta Get Out of this Place” and “Walking in the Rain.” Songwriting couple JEFF BARRY and ELLIE GREENWICH, wrote a countless number of classics including “Da Doo Ron Ron,” “Then He Kissed Me,” “Be My Baby” and “River Deep, Mountain High.” Additionally, songwriter MORT SHUMAN, along with his songwriting partner Doc Pomus (who was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992), wrote some of the most important songs of the late 1950’s and early 1960’s including: “This Magic Moment,” “Save the Last Dance for Me” and “Viva Las Vegas.” Prolific songwriter OTIS BLACKWELL wrote many hits including “Great Balls of Fire,” “Don’t Be Cruel,” “All Shook Up” and “Fever.” Lastly, songwriter JESSE STONE, who was an architect of the early rock and roll sound, wrote “Shake, Rattle and Roll” and “Money Honey.”

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 10:20am

http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/induction2010

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Announces its Inductees for 2010
Induction Ceremony to Air Live on Fuse March 15th


December 15, 2010—New York— Today, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation announced ABBA, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, The Hollies and The Stooges as its 2010 artist inductees. Also being inducted this year as individual recipients of the Ahmet Ertegun Award will be David Geffen and songwriters Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil, Elle Greenwich, Jeff Barry, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman and Otis Blackwell. The ceremony will take place on March 15, 2010 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City and will air live on Fuse, Madison Square Garden’s national music television network, as part of the three-year broadcast deal between the Foundation and Fuse.
“We are very happy to present this year’s inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as they represent a great cross-section of artists that define the broad spectrum and history of rock and roll and people that have contributed immeasurably to our business” says Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation President & CEO Joel Peresman.
The performer inductees are:
ABBA
GENESIS
JIMMY CLIFF
THE HOLLIES
THE STOOGES
Ahmet Ertegun Award (nonperformers):
DAVID GEFFEN
BARRY MANN & CYNTHIA WEIL
ELLIE GREENWICH & JEFF BARRY
JESSE STONE
MORT SHUMAN
OTIS BLACKWELL
The 2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performer inductees were chosen by over 500 voters of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Artists are eligible for inclusion in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twenty-five years after their first recording is released.
All inductees are ultimately represented in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland, Ohio. Through approaches as creative and diverse as the music itself, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum tells the story of rock music with its exhibits, education programs and Library and Archives, which will open to the public in downtown Cleveland in late 2010.
Presenters and performers at the induction will be announced at a later date. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony will be televised live on Fuse; more information can be found at fuse.tv.
More about the inductees:
ABBA
They are one of the biggest-selling acts in pop-history – and if Stockholm is now a hit making mecca, it’s because ABBA first put Sweden on rock’s global map. The four members came together in enchanting, late-
1960s post-Euro-hippie fashion – initialed for the two couples, Agnetha ‘Anna’ Fältskog and Björn Ulvaeus; and Benny Andersson and Anni-Frid ‘Frida’ Lyngstad. ABBA was a dominant music force throughout the 70’s, and world¬wide licensing deals made Polar Music the second biggest corporation in Sweden. Bjorn and Benny’s studio finesse over the course of ABBA’s eight studio LPs drew wide praise from pure pop punks and New Wavers for whom ABBA became a guilty pleasure. They went their solo ways in 1982, but tribute albums and the boffo musical Mamma Mia are keeping ABBA on permanent display.

GENESIS
Almost no group in rock history has had such a long and varied career as Genesis, who began as a cult art-rock band in England in the late 1960’s and went on to pack stadiums across the globe in the 1980’s, 1990’s and on their 2007 reunion tour. In the early 1970’s frontman Peter Gabriel shocked audiences and grabbed headlines by taking the stages in outrageous costumes and occasionally even levitating above the audience. Their music was equally innovative, and early albums Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are two of the most acclaimed prog-rock albums in the history of the genre. In 1975 Gabriel left the band to pursue a solo career and drummer Phil Collins stepped out from behind the kit to take over. The band experienced many more hits and successful worldwide tours over the next 30 years.
JIMMY CLIFF
Very few single albums can be said to have changed music forever. Jimmy Cliff’s The Harder They Come is one. The album – and the movie that spawned it – introduced reggae to a worldwide audience and changed the image of the genre from cruise ship soundtrack to music of rebellion and inspiration. “Sitting in Limbo,” “The Harder They Come,” “You Can Get It If You Really Want,” and “Many Rivers to Cross” made Jimmy Cliff the first international reggae superstar and created the model that Bob Marley would soon follow. A beautifully gifted singer and a uniquely influential songwriter, Jimmy Cliff has made a profound impact on rock and pop music all over the world for 40 years.

THE HOLLIES
Above all, it was the wide-open three-part vocal harmonies of original members Allan Clarke, Graham Nash, and Tony Hicks, inspired by the Everly Brothers, that gave the Hollies a sound apart from other British Invasion beat groups. Songwriter Graham Gouldman supplied them with “Look Through Any Window” and “Bus Stop.” And the original writing talent of Clarke, Nash, and lead guitarist Tony Hicks took over on “Stop!
Stop! Stop!” and “On a Carousel,” as the Hollies went on to chart 21 consecutive Top 20 UK hits through 1970. After Nash’s departure in 1968, new hits carried them into the mid-70’s including “He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My
Brother,” “Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress,” “Long Dark Road,” “Magic Woman Touch,” “The Air That I Breathe,” and others.
THE STOOGES
The “Big Bang” that became punk, alternative, heavy metal, new wave, grunge, hardcore and industrial music, could very well have been the advent of Iggy and the Stooges in Ann Arbor in the late 1960’s. Confrontational, out of the mainstream and the complete antitheses of the hippie movement, the Stooges were adopted by those on the margins of rock. Their debut Elektra LP was produced in four days by the Velvet Undergound’s John Cale and contained at least three landmarks: “I Wanna Be Your Dog,” “No Fun” and “1969.” Immediately embraced in New York, London and Los Angeles for the nuclear-powered simplicity of their music, the ironic nihilism of their lyrics, and the persona of Iggy himself, the Stooges have become icons in the history of modern music.
More about the Ahmet Ertegun Award recipients:
DAVID GEFFEN began his legendary career in the William Morris Agency mailroom, quickly becoming an agent, before leaving to form his own management and then record label. He signed artists who have now become legends, including Laura Nyro, The Eagles, Jackson Browne, Crosby Stills and Nash, Tom Waits and Linda Ronstadt. David founded Geffen Records in 1980, whose artist roster included John Lennon, Aerosmith, Peter Gabriel, Guns N Roses, Nirvana and many more iconic artists. More recently David formed the film and entertainment company SKG, along with Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg. David has been and continues to be involved in many philanthropic endeavors.
The Ahmet Ertegun Award will also be presented to an extraordinary group of songwriters who wrote some of the most classic, lasting songs of the 20th century and defined the “Brill Building sound”. Husband and wife songwriting team BARRY MANN and CYNTHIA WEIL, have had an extraordinary impact on the past five decades of popular music. Their numerous hits include: “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling” (with Phil Spector), “On Broadway” (with Leiber and Stoller), “We Gotta Get Out of this Place” and “Walking in the Rain.” Songwriting couple JEFF BARRY and ELLIE GREENWICH, wrote a countless number of classics including “Da Doo Ron Ron,” “Then He Kissed Me,” “Be My Baby” and “River Deep, Mountain High.” Additionally, songwriter MORT SHUMAN, along with his songwriting partner Doc Pomus (who was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992), wrote some of the most important songs of the late 1950’s and early 1960’s including: “This Magic Moment,” “Save the Last Dance for Me” and “Viva Las Vegas.” Prolific songwriter OTIS BLACKWELL wrote many hits including “Great Balls of Fire,” “Don’t Be Cruel,” “All Shook Up” and “Fever.” Lastly, songwriter JESSE STONE, who was an architect of the early rock and roll sound, wrote “Shake, Rattle and Roll” and “Money Honey.”

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 10:25am

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/04/09/rolling-stones-list-of-the-25-undisputed-guilty-pleasure-bands/

ABBA is the first group from Rolling Stone Magazine's Guilty Pleasures List to be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

1. Rush
2. E.L.O.
3. Journey
4. ABBA
5. Chicago
6. Boston
7. Foreigner
8. Bread
9. Bon Jovi
10. New Edition
11. The Monkees
12. Motley Crue
13. STYX
14. Eddie Money
15. Simply Red
16. Kelly Clarkson
17. America
18. Wham
19. R.E.O. Speedwagon
20. Poison
21. Lionel Richie
22. Kansas
23. Air Supply
24. Hall & Oates
25. Britney Spears

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 16:16pm

Haven't heard a peep out of the KISS kamp regarding the Hall of Lame's rejection of their induction.

I am dying to hear what Paul and Gene have to say now. Since they were not happy with the hall for years for not nominating them and would bad mouth the RNRHOF, then did an about face, saying what an honor it was being nominated.

Has anyone seen any press or quotes from Paul or Gene regarding their rejection?

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 19:58pm

"Then we have The Hollies. I guess if Little Steven is a fan, then a one-hit-wonder can get in." One hit wonders they have the second most number 1's on the British Charts for the 60's but of course only the impact of a band in America really matters

Posted by JohnnyT on Friday, 12.18.09 @ 20:56pm

JohnnyT, The Hollies were more than a one hit wonder in the States. I hope you realize that

Posted by Bassmaster on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 11:53am

Obviously the name “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” is misleading since many of those inducted are not truly Rock and Roll acts. Even many of those that may be categorized as Rock and Roll are actually in genre’s influenced by Rock and Roll, which was itself influenced by gospel, blues and country musical styles. The Beatles may have started out as a Rock and Roll band but they morphed into more of a psychedelic rock band. However what’s the difference, in my opinion the whole Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing is stupid anyway.-at least the way it is being handled by the existing Rock and Roll Hall of Fame operators.
Deep Purple has sold more records than Santana, however Santana is in and Deep Purple is not, and don’t tell me that Carlos Santana and Ritchie Blackmore were not equally influential. Alice Cooper has sold as many records as Black Sabbath, however Black Sabbath is in and Alice Cooper is not and don’t tell me that Ozzie and Alice were not equally influential. How can you induct the Sex Pistols before the Stooges, it makes no sense-listen to me, no Iggy, no Sex Pistols.
Did you ever argue with someone over music, it is a waste of time because musical tastes are very personal and differ from person to person. So to have 10 people induct performers into this so-called hall of fame is silly, especially if you look back at how they are doing it.
By the way KISS has filled more concert halls and treated more human beings to the live, energetic sounds of rock and roll influenced music than almost any of those inducted already and should be inducted for that alone, forgetting their 100,000,000 in worldwide record sales. The whole thing is silly, but fun and should not be taken seriously

Posted by frank on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 16:20pm

Two of this year's snubs, KISS and Donna Summer were signed to the Casablanca label, which was founded by Neil Bogart. I wonder if Neil Bogart named the label after the film "Casablanca" which starred Humphrey Bogart, who is no relation to Neil.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 20:57pm

Jimmy Cliff - very nice and totally surprised. Yeah Stooges, it's about time. I am not a fan of ABBA, but cannot argue it. Good for Genesis, but it should have been King Crimson. The Hollies are a tough one for me. I am a big fan, but I just don't see it, but I will not be against seeing them perform again.

2011 (Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, NY Dolls, King Crimson, Cheap Trick). I would also like to see Joy Division and Sonic Youth at least get nominated. I am not a big fan of either group, but I do understand their importance.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 12.20.09 @ 14:48pm

Who do you guys think will induct these inductess?

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 12.20.09 @ 19:37pm

The Everly Brothers should induct the Hollies.

Posted by Steve on Sunday, 12.20.09 @ 20:44pm

Who will induct the artists, here's who I think would be good candidates.

Abba: I think Madonna should induct them even though I don't see it happening. Abba was obviously an influence on her, and one of her biggest hits in this decade, "Hung Up," was centered around an Abba sample. She would be a great candidate to induct them, but I highly doubt she'd take the time out of her schedule to come to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame dinner to induct someone else. She didn't even act too excited or thrilled to be there when she was inducted.

Bono and Gene Simmons are also fans of Abba, so I could see the Hall getting Bono to come by and induct them. Gene would be an entertaining inductor as well, but beings KISS were passed over for the Hall that'd be unlikely that he'd come to the Hall of Fame when he was passed over for induction.


Jimmy Cliff: I'm not too sure on him. Maybe Ziggy Marley or some other modern reggae artist.


Genesis: There's probably quite a few people who could induct Genesis. Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel have worked with and have many friends in the music industry who would probably be glad to induct them. Such as Sting, Eric Clapton, etc. Or perhaps a more modern progressive-styled band could induct them.


The Hollies: The Everly Brothers would be an interesting choice, as well as David Crosby and Stephen Stills. Or perhaps Radiohead beings they pretty much based a major part of "Creep" off of "The Air I Breathe." That last one was kind of a joke.


The Stooges: Either Lou Reed or David Bowie. Duh.

Posted by Donnie on Sunday, 12.20.09 @ 21:06pm

Maybe Brian May and Roger Taylor of Queen should induct ABBA because "Mamma Mia! The Musical" inspired May & Taylor to put together "We Will Rock You"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 05:11am

Someone mentioned d Peter Cetera as a possible presenter for ABBA. Here's another possibility that might sound strange--Amy Grant. When I first heard Amy's song "Find A Way" in 1985, I thought it was Agnetha Faltskog. Faltskog had a solo hit in 1983 called "Can't Shake loose" As it turns out, both Grant and Faltskog were duet partners for Mr. Cetera, Grant duetted with Cetera on the number noe "The Next Time I Fall" while Faltskog duetted with Cetera on "I Wasn't The One (Who Said Goodbye)" Amy Grant must have learned her vocal chops from Agnetha, particularly on song like "SOS" "Chiquitita" "The Winner Takes It All" and "Happy New Year"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 05:53am

I think it's a crapshoot as to whether the members (at least all four of them) of ABBA will actually show up for the inducton ceremony. The men probably will, but the women are notoriously publicity shy, and they reportedly had to be coaxed into appearing for the Mamma Mia premiere. They reportedly also turned down $100 million for a 100-city (or was it 1000-city?) concert tour.

Still, they all DID show up for the Mamma Mia premiere, and ABBA did announce their induction on their website, so maybe...

Posted by Joe on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:54pm

I don't hate this years class. First time in about 5 years. But I think the reason is they felt guilty. Jon Landau and jAnn Wenner(sic) have made this their personal NY-based ipod. They've also put their personal issues into the forefront to eliminate certain groups/artists. But let's look at who made it this year:
ABBA: Greatest worldwide pop group outside the Beatles. OK. Not Rock but the voters aren't voting for ROCK HoF as Madonna, Leonard Cohen, Wanda Jackson, Percy Sledge have shown.
THE HOLLIES. Little Steven has been pushing for them and Jon Landau is his lap dog. But I love The Hollies and think they should be in. Ahead of Deep Purple? No. Tony Hicks is a totally underrated guitarist but B-A-B. B-A-D-A is the epitome of rock and roll called Smoke on the Water -- only Heartbreak Hotel and Louie Louie are better.
JIMMY CLIFF -- Yes. Only Bob Marley was more important to reggae.
GENESIS. I personally think Peter Gabriel should have gone in first. He was more influential as a solo artist. He also introduced the world to: world music, headset wireless mic's(used by Madonna) and he was the person in the band that did the performance art that seems to be the reason they are in. Just remember, Genesis were started to be Moody Blues copyists (by Johnathan King). And the Moody Blues aren't in yet
THE STOOGES. I am from Detroit. I think there has been a coastal bias to the inductees and I really feel they are guilty of the second time in three years of feeling guilty and inducting a band after someone has died. Ron Asheton deserved to be there (thank you Madonna for having him play). But they don't deserve it more than: The MC5, Ted Nugent, The Amboy Dukes, Alice Cooper or Tommy James and The Shondells -- all Michigan based acts that are less important to the Hall than James Taylor, The Rascals, Steely Dan, The Lovin Spoonful or Billy Joel. Sorry E-coasters but these are in the hall because it's run by East Coasters.

Congrats to the artists that made it.

HoF now has a committee that looks at bands and artists they may have overlooked. Genesis was the benefit this year. They have ONE committee to look at Prog and Hard Rock. Good luck to Alice, Deep Purple and The Moody Blues. One of you may get nominated next year. Unless jAnn and Jon control it, you'll get in.

Posted by MBicer on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 23:34pm

Thoughts on who should or might induct whom:

Stooges: Madonna might end up doing it, just to return the favor... otherwise, I see Patti Smith being a good possibility.

Jimmy Cliff: Best bet would be Ziggy Marley.

Hollies: I really see this one being done by Crosby and Stills. The Everlys are doubtful, though it'd be cool for a charter inductee to do an induction at the 25th anniversary.

ABBA: Again, Madge is a possibility, but I think someone from Roxette or Ace Of Base is more likely. Or maybe Janet even. Tough call

On to the Non-Performers....

Mort Shuman: Ben E. King.... to me, this is a no brainer.

Jeff Barry And Ellie Greenwich: as many of their songs were opted by Spector, this seems to be a good vein to travel in... however, with Phil behind bars and Darlene having been snubbed this year, I think the safest bet might be on Hall of Famer Ronnie Bennett-Spector.

David Geffen: I'm not too familiar with who was all on Geffen records, but otherwise, Ronstadt, Browne, or one of the Eagles would fit the bill quite nicely.

Barry Mann And Cynthia Weil: I'm thinking Bill Medley, since they wrote the most played song of all time... seems fitting for him to do it.

Otis Blackwell: Maybe Jerry Lee Lewis? About the only person left alive who had a big hit with one of his songs.

Jesse Stone: Is there anyone left who were the first artist to record any of his songs? There were enough people who recorded "Don't Let Go"... maybe another famous songwriter? Or maybe this will be a job for Paul Shaffer this time around.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 20:43pm

Oh yeah, realize I forgot to comment on Genesis... honestly, I have no clue. I have no idea who cites them as an influence besides Lax, and quite honestly, I'd rather have Kanye West induct them than Lax. Probably another prog act. No clue.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12.30.09 @ 18:39pm

I might have tagged Tom Hanks as a possible inductor for ABBA as it was his production company, Playtone, that brought Mamma Mia! to the big screen. (And made it the top-grossing movie musical of all time.) But Tom was last on stage in 2008 to induct the DC5 so it's likely a bit soon for a repeat visit. But there's always wife and fellow executive producer Rita Wilson??

Posted by Scott on Thursday, 12.31.09 @ 02:05am

Suggestions on possible presenters:

ABBA - Madonna is the most likely candidate, both in terms of their respective hits and level of popularity.

Jimmy Cliff - Hopefully they won't go the Bono route as they did for Bob Marley way back when. An off-beat choice would be the Fugees reuniting to present him into the Hall. Wycliff Jean emulated Cliff in a lot of his early work, even working on a never-produced sequel to "The Harder They Come" with him. And Lauryn Hill would be a nice emissary from the Marley camp, as she's Bob's daughter-in-law (at least, as far as I can remember).

Genesis - As I still see them as a compromise selection in terms of prog rock, the idea of a heavyweight presenter from that genre would read like sour grapes. So, whoever they get would be more in line with the later Collins-led era: someone overtly commercial with smacks of pretentiousness. To that end, I recommend Chris Martin and/or Coldplay as their presenter.

The Hollies - No clue. I hate the idea of Stephen Stills and David Crosby being their presenters, as that would just confirm that they only got in because of Graham Nash's presence in the band.

The Stooges - With Madonna better suited for ABBA, the chances of another Detroit native bringing them in is somewhat nil (I mean, Ted Nugent would be next in line). Unless they go with a contemporary band like Green Day, the best candidate would be a New York punk scene veteran, like Lou Reed or Debbie Harry, Patti Smith, Richard Hell or David Johannson. I wouldn't mind Sonic Youth though, as that might auger well for their nomination in a year or two.

Posted by Ian on Thursday, 12.31.09 @ 11:00am

Since everyone else is doing, these would be my ideal (although probably not realistic) choices for presenters.

ABBA - Lasse Hallstrom, the Swedish filmmaker who started out directing the majority of ABBA's music videos. Check him out on wikipedia. I think it would be nice to have an old friend present them the award.

Jimmy Cliff - Ziggy Marley is a fine choice.

Genesis - I'm not sure, probably someone influenced by them. Dream Theater maybe?

The Hollies - David Crosby and Stephen Stills are probably going to be picked, and I'm fine with that.

The Stooges - Legs McNeil, a co-founder of Punk Magazine who championed The Stooges back in the day.

Mort Shuman - Philip's right on Ben E. King, although Dion might be an acceptable choice as well.

Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich - Either Ronnie Spector, Neil Diamond, or Connie Francis. Since Neil and Connie have been (wrongly) ignored by the Hall, Ronnie Spector is the best way to go with this one.

David Geffen - Jackson Browne, or his good friend Joni Mitchell.

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil - Once again I agree with Philip, Bill Medley would be perfect.

Otis Blackwell - Well, Elvis would have been perfect, but alas. Jerry Lee Lewis is a fine choice, as is Connie Francis. Despite the fact that I feel that she would be the better presenter, (can Jerry Lee Lewis be able to go through an entire presentation? He's getting old), her case was already stated by me under Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich.

Jesse Stone - Gerhart Thrasher of the Drifters or Franny Beecher and Al Rex of Bill Haley and his Comets. Stone wrote hits for their bands while they were apart of them, and I'm pretty sure these particular members are still alive.

Posted by Steve Z on Thursday, 12.31.09 @ 12:08pm

Happy New Year!

Philip, I would have no problem whatsoever in presenting Genesis in their induction ceremonies. However, not only am I not known to them in person; I might also speak at a rather lengthy matter. It is also possible that I would find extensive praise and recognition for Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford, and even advocate their individual inductions. I admittedly am not decline to heap said recognition on Phil Collins, when looking at his rather lukewarm output outside of Genesis.

I can think of others more qualified than myself in this regard. But first, whom i beleive will present whom in March:

Ben E. King would be ideal to present Mort Shulman.

Neil Diamond could likely present Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry. This could also give the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation an incentive to at least consider Neil Diamond as an eventual inductee. This may or not occur in the near future, yet a great deal of media attention has been given to Neil Diamond that something will need to be considered.

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil: I am guessing Quincy Jones. By the by, Jones has not yet been inducted! He has received a Kennedy Center Honor, though. Nevertheless, a good choice.

Jesse Stone: Jeff Lynne would be an interesting choice. Gerhart Thraser is yet another. I am not entirely sure.

Otis Blackwell could very well be inducted by a figure such as Jimmy Jones, who first recorded Blackwell's "Handy Man." If Jerry Lee Lewis is up to it, that may be an ideal choice.

Jackson Browne, or perhaps Linda Ronstadt, are rather apt picks for presenting David Geffen. What I would really be intrigued in presenting Geffen would be for Don Henley to have the honors. Yes, Don Henley.

Now then, the five performers category inductees:

I could see Ziggy Marley presenting Jimmy Cliff. Wyclef Jean is yet another possibility. One other artist I think would fit considerably would be Bunny Wailer. Whomever it is, it is important to have Cliff's influence be prevalent on their careers.

I could see Madonna returning the favor for the Stooges by presenting them. I do think, however, that it is more likely David Bowie would be presenting them, considering his collaborative efforts with Iggy Pop during his Berlin years.

ABBA is a rather tough call. Aaron O'Donnell had mentioned Peter Cetera as a potential presenter, which I think is a rather brilliant consideration. This is provided that Cetera would do it. I think, however, it would likely amount to being a noted singer/actor of any sort that did a run with "Mamma Mia!" or even "Chess". Were that to be the case, it could be anyone.

Here is someone I think could present The Hollies: Alan Parsons. Now granted, I do not see Parsons ever being Hall of Fame material; yet, he did help to produce and engineer a great deal of their 1970s output. Plus, as I mentioned before, Terry Sylvester and Allan Clarke sang on some albums that Alan Parsons and Eric Woolfson dis in their early years. Sylvester most notably in "To One in Paradise". This would let fans of the Hollies become aware of the exquisite production techniques involved in their records. And yes, this would also equalize the post Graham Nash era. While having David Crosby, Stephen Stills, or Neil Young present the Hollies be interesting, there was more to the Hollies than the Nash years.

Now, as for Genesis: well, considering their influence in a great deal of artists, both in their collective and individual works, it could be anyone. If you want to know who I think would be an ideal presenter; I would think, at the top of my head, Sarah McLachlan. I can actually see and recognize a good deal of art rock influences on her own rather unique musical and lyrical stylings.

Anyway, that is my thoughts on whom could present the inductees. If any of you fellow posters want to comment and/or critique my decisions, I would be more than amused to see them. By the by, I should still attempt to retrieve tickets for the induction ceremony, albeit it could be hard to come by.

Though not until February 10th, I remain in sure jest,

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Friday, 01.1.10 @ 18:48pm

Lax, can I ask you a question, are you going to be calling yourself Lax28 next year?

Posted by Keebord on Friday, 01.1.10 @ 19:10pm

Well yes. Yes Indeed, Keebord. I do beleive I will have my age in the ensuing years correlate to my pen name.

Hope that answered your question,

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Friday, 01.1.10 @ 19:17pm

It did thanks. I suspected it was your age

Posted by Keebord on Friday, 01.1.10 @ 19:48pm

Funny, I suspected it was his IQ.

Sorry Lax, that was meant as a joke, not as a serious dig.

I don't see Diamond or Jones doing N-P inductions. ESPECIALLY Jones after what he did last time. Just don't see them using artists who are eligible but have been overlooked to do the inductions... it's a bit of rubbing salt in the wounds. Same reason I don't see Lynne doing Stone, or Cetera for that matter, or even Ronstadt.

Jimmy Jones is a decent call, given that even he doesn't realistically expect induction, nor is he likely to get as insistent/indignant about it. However, when you compare "Handy Man" to "Great Balls Of Fire"... it's pretty obvious why I think the Killer is more likely.

I am curious as to why you'd pick Don Henley. I wouldn't just because if his songs are any indication of how long he'd speak, there wouldn't be enough time in the broadcast for him to talk... seriously, the guy couldn't record a song under 4:30 if his life depended on it.

Stooges and ABBA really do seem to be crapshoots... any number of deserving and/or possible presenters. I think Patti Smith would be best, but could see it being Madonna for the Stooges... don't want to see Madonna do ABBA, but another possibility. We'll see.

Genesis... well, maybe it's better that you don't give the speech. If you're not gonna say one nice thing about Collins' leadership of the group when they were actually popular, then you shouldn't do it. McLachlan's an interesting choice... except I don't know if she was ever actually influenced by them... I always thought her sound was more Cohen influenced, but we'll see.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.2.10 @ 00:30am

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Posted by wmprmo on Saturday, 01.2.10 @ 19:40pm

Stevie Ray Vaughan should be in & so should Steve Perry!!!

Why is ABBA getting in before these two people?

CRAZY

Posted by Kandi on Monday, 01.4.10 @ 23:42pm

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Posted by Joe on Friday, 01.8.10 @ 13:08pm

ABBA: 1977 - Knowing Me, Knowing You

Genesis: 1978 - Follow You Follow Me

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.12.10 @ 09:49am

Hey guys, found a cute game... the whole site is fun games, and this one is about the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.... can you do it from memory? It took me three tries to do it from memory, but it's up to date... Performers only.


http://www.sporcle.com/games/rockrollHOFinductees.php

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 01.12.10 @ 18:12pm

ABBA: 1977 - Knowing Me, Knowing You

Genesis: 1978 - Follow You Follow Me

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.12.10 @ 09:49am

What exactly is your point?

Posted by The Drummer on Tuesday, 01.12.10 @ 18:17pm

Push Me Pull You...Dr. Doolittle

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 01.12.10 @ 18:31pm

In Your Eyes...1987 Peter Gabriel

It's In Your Eyes...1997 Phil Collins

Three can play this game, you know!

Regarding Jann Wenner's considering lowering the eligibility requirements to 20 years: this could only work if it is decided to expand inductees in the Performers category to at least 10 per year. Otherwise, as many of you fellow posters have said, this just puts Wenner's skull-duggery mindset into not recognizing certain artists that are not necessarily in his mixtape collection.

By the by, here is who I believe and will advocate for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2011: Peter Gabriel, The Eurythmics, Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens), Donna Summer, and Sting. Regarding Peter Gabriel and Sting, this will be for their entire works and songs and writings. I do hope to be proven correct in this regard. We shall see.

It's In Your Eyes rips off Any Time At All,

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 06:43am

ABBA: 1977 - Knowing Me, Knowing You

Genesis: 1978 - Follow You Follow Me


MY POINT IS THAT THEY ARE BEING INDUCTED THE SAME YEAR!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 10:01am

Why are you yelling at me Roy? How am I supposed to know what goes on inside your head?

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 11:40am

But ABBA did Knowing Me, Knowing You in 1977 and Genesis did Follow You Follow Me in 1978. So based on that sequence then ABBA should be inducted in 2010 and Genesis in 2011 for your point to make any sense.

Posted by joker on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 11:44am

I guess Genesis literally did follow Abba then

Posted by Milestones on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 17:00pm

http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-2010.html

FROM THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOOR

THE 2010 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

OVERVIEW

If the theory that complaining about the annual selections for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame has become old hat and thus that frees the nominating committee and voters to throw sound reasoning to the wind, then this year's election makes perfect sense. It was a weak ballot to begin with, as the committee saw fit to name a horde of admitted personal favorites and then shamelessly campaign for them (most prominently at the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame's 25th Anniversary gala concert at Madison Square Garden over two nights in October) removing any and all personal detachment and objectivity from the equation. Then the 500+ anonymous voters promptly showed how out of touch with rock's evolution they've become as they chose no artist whose career began after the Nixon administration, despite the presence of two first time eligibles whose credentials should have made them automatic selections.

In a way the Hall Of Fame used this year's election to slither around some embarrassing oversights from the past. They thankfully managed to break the long draught on progressive rock with the election of Genesis, a compromise candidate in that regard because half of their career came after they'd abandoned all prog connections and became a hit machine in the 80's. They also were able to get a second reggae artist in with Jimmy Cliff, which proves that the style was more than just Bob Marley, but in doing so they'll pat themselves on the back and say that should be enough reggae acts for another fifteen years. Their next two choices say as much about the aging white Anglo-Saxon voting body as it does anything else, as the Hollies rode their uneven career to a spot in the Hall as a reward for whistful baby boomers, while the induction of mega-successful Sweedish pop stars ABBA gives them a late 70's alternative to funk, disco and the emerging rap scene which the electorate continues to largely be uncomfortable recognizing. Only the Stooges had both the credentials and the cache to make them a widely expected choice, but even that came after multiple failed nominations giving it an air of resignation.

Most shameful though is not who was let in, but rather who was left out. Despite four females acts on the ballot, none were elected, once again raising questions about the gender bias the Hall may have. Of the four Donna Summer's omission is the most glaring, as she was the dominant figure in one of rock's biggest (but most critically detested) subgenres, one which the Hall has yet to fully acknowledge, which makes another troubling issue they need to address, namely how they can continue to reward the relatively small punk style while dismissing the far larger and equally influential disco scene from the same time frame. In another case of critical distaste overwhelming objective analysis KISS's credentials are more than solid enough to get their ticket punched, but more people would rather punch Gene Simmons and the entire fanatical KISS Army than recognize that, and so they were voted down. Their appearance on the ballot however lets the Hall off the hook from charges that there was a conspiracy to keep the group from ever being considered and now with their official rejection by the voters they can resume ignoring them. More unexpected in their failure to make the cut were The Red Hot Chili Peppers who seemed to be locks for the Hall when looking at traditional voting patterns - a big name act with credibility throughout music who also have modern name recognition to draw in younger viewers to the televised ceremonies. Yet they too fell short and thus no artist whose best work appeared in the 90's has been inducted, even as we pass the mid-80's eligibility mark for artists debuts, something that shows just how far removed from modern music culture the voting body has become. The biggest injustice this year however is the denial of LL Cool J, the first solo rap superstar and one of the most influential and successful artists of his era. With rap being the dominant form of rock music, both commercially and influentially, over the past quarter century, it would stand to reason that the Hall of Fame would see an influx of hip-hop artists and producers start to get in as more and more reach their eligibility requirements with each ensuing year, but the voting body seems to be uneasy with this shift away from the rock styles of their youth and have once again turned back to their more favored eras to reassure themselves that the rock world they grew up with is still worth celebrating. It is, but only alongside the rock world it spawned and to do that the nominating committee needs a complete overhaul and the voting body needs to become far more diverse and open-minded than it has been over the past decade. The Class Of 2010 now takes the dubious honor of being by far the poorest class of inductees in the twenty-five year history of the Hall and should serve as the impetus for a major shake up of the electorate who is allowed to decide on granting immortality.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 15:59pm

While I agree that I'm more excited about the Non-Performers this year than the Performers, some of the things said there are just ridiculous... LL Cool J the biggest injustice? I'm sorry, I don't quite buy the whole "rap is a form of rock music." It pretty much ceased to be part of the culture of rock music when the rappers themselves defined it as a genre that was separate from (and some make it out to be superior to) the culture of rock'n'roll. They don't want to be part of the rock culture? They can stay out of the Rock Hall then. It was a separation on their part... early hip-hoppers don't bother me so much as they fed back into the world of rock music... but the majority of rappers now? No. LL Cool J is a borderline call for me. He was probably the LEAST deserving of the candidates on this year's ballot.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 18:22pm

ABBA - 2 Women
Jimmy Cliff - Black
Cynthia Weil - Woman
Ellie Greenwich - Woman
Jesse Stone - Black
Otis Blackwell - Black

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 04:08am

ALL DEAD

Ellie Greenwich
Jesse Stone
Mort Shuman
Otis Blackwell

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 04:12am

ABBA - 2 Women
Jimmy Cliff - Black
Cynthia Weil - Woman
Ellie Greenwich - Woman
Jesse Stone - Black
Otis Blackwell - Black

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 04:08am

You're very judgmental Roy

Posted by Joker on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 07:07am

I'm not judgmental! I'm responding to all the nonsense talk in the media and DDD about how not enough women and blacks are being inducted. But I guess those don't count since they are mostly non-performer inductees.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 08:10am

FROM THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOOR

THE 2010 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

OVERVIEW

If the theory that complaining about the annual selections for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame has become old hat and thus that frees the nominating committee and voters to throw sound reasoning to the wind, then this year's election makes perfect sense. It was a weak ballot to begin with, as the committee saw fit to name a horde of admitted personal favorites and then shamelessly campaign for them (most prominently at the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame's 25th Anniversary gala concert at Madison Square Garden over two nights in October) removing any and all personal detachment and objectivity from the equation. Then the 500+ anonymous voters promptly showed how out of touch with rock's evolution they've become as they chose no artist whose career began after the Nixon administration, despite the presence of two first time eligibles whose credentials should have made them automatic selections.

In a way the Hall Of Fame used this year's election to slither around some embarrassing oversights from the past.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 15:59pm
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People can knock what Roy has been listing here w/Digital Dream Door, but they've got a beat on at least part of the logic driving this induction process. For at least another year or two, it's going to look like this. Wenner's comments about shoving the date up from 25 yrs. to 20 clearly let's on that he is in fact quite aware of the impasse that this board of preference (for that IS what they are, no doubt) has run into. Either they will attempt to leap over a section of the 80's to get to the 90's quicker, or they will use the next election to get to the leftovers (as they may see it) from the 60's & 70's, aka Purple, Rush, T-Rex, Chicago, SRV, etc.

I called it...

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 11:04am

I am seeing the one and only Mose Alison TONIGHT ..Now there be influance 201% He be da smooth reals blues jazz Beat..just aint nothin better!! MO MOSE

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 17:05pm

am seeing the one and only Mose Alison TONIGHT ..Now there be influance 201% He be da smooth reals blues jazz Beat..just aint nothin better!! MO MOSE

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 17:05pm
If you want to see, hear a real LIVING legend Mose is the man,,I would not be surprised if he gets IN...{The musicians musicians}

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 01.18.10 @ 00:42am

Brief Mose Allison Biography

Mose John Allison Jr. was born in 1927 in Tippo, Mississippi, a cotton town in the Mississippi delta. By the time Mose was in grade school he was already composing boogie woogie tunes on the piano. His father, a piano stride player himself, encouraged the young Mose in his playing but also taught him the meaning of "work on the farm." Mose plowed cotton with a mule and said once that he is probably one of the few remaining living bluesman who can honestly make that claim. He grew up where "The blues was in the air." While still in his teens Mose was sitting in with R and B bands on Memphis’s famed musical mecca Beale Street. One of those bands was led by another teenage bluesman, Beale Street Boy, better known as B. B. King. It was a full decade before SUN Records discovery of Elvis Presley. In the 1940’s in the deep south it was not yet socially acceptable for races to mix in public places. When it comes to music Mose says, "I just followed my ears."

In 1956 Mose migrated to New York where the jazz scene was taking off. He staked out an artistic and musical niche that was both respected and unique. Today, many in the industry view Mose as a musician’s musician, a singer’s singer and a songwriter’s songwriter. Mose is still playing over 150 dates a year and considers his 40 years on the road performing as "on the job training." In the states Mose has a loyal following but, it was in England during the 1960’s where Mose got the attention of many soon to be British Invaders. The Yardbirds, The Who, John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers and others would soon be covering his songs. Someone said to Mose once, "You were a social critic before Dylan; you were satirical long before Newman; you were rude long before Jagger; why aren’t you a big star?" Mose’s answer to that was, "Just Lucky, I guess." Mose’s popularity in the states has been on a slow and steady rise. As the man himself wrote, "If you live, your time will come". Perhaps Mose’s time has finally come.

In a twenty month period covering 1994-5, a biography on Mose entitled, One Man’s Blues, has been published in the UK, a studio CD on Blue Note was released entitled, The Earth Wants You, a live set from the seventies was released on indie CD entitled, Pure Mose, Rhino Records released a two CD anthology entitled, Allison Wonderland and finally a three CD boxed set from Sony, High Jinks! Trilogy. Certainly it is wonderful time to be a Mose fan.

Home

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 01.18.10 @ 01:32am

Before so called Surf Music.. many if not most surfers choice was Mose. Heck maybe he is the real surf music...

Mose Allison was born in the Mississippi Delta on his grandfather’s farm near the village of Tippo. At five he discovered he could play the piano “by ear” and began “picking’ out” blues and boogie tunes he heard on the local jukebox. In high school he listened to the music of Louis Armstrong, Fats Waller, Duke Ellington, Louis Jordan, and his prime inspiration, Nat Cole of the King Cole Trio. He played trumpet in the marching and dance bands and started writing his own songs.

After a year at the University of Mississippi, he went to the Army in l946, playing in the Army Band in Colorado Springs and performing with accomplished musicians from around the country in small groups at NCO and Officer’s clubs. Returning to “Ole Miss” he joined the dance band as arranger, piano and trumpet player, but shortly left to form his own trio, playing piano and singing in a style heavily influenced by Nat Cole, Louis Jordan and Erroll Garner. After a year on the road, Mose married, returned to college at Louisiana State University and graduated in 1952 with a BA in English and Philosophy.

He worked in nightclubs throughout the Southeast and West, blending the raw blues of his childhood with modern pianistic influences of John Lewis, Thelonius Monk and Al Haig. His vocal style was influenced by blues singers Percy Mayfield and Charles Brown. Arriving in New York in 1956, Mose received encouragement, work and a record date from Al Cohn. In 1957 he secured his own first recording contract with Prestige Records, recording Back Country Suite, a collection of pieces evoking the Mississippi Delta, released to unanimous critical acclaim. Mose went on to play and record with jazz greats Stan Getz, Al Cohn, Zoot Sims and Gerry Mulligan as well as with his own Mose Allison Trio.

Mose continued working with his own trio, writing and singing his own songs. His songs are a fusion of rustic blues and jazz, embellished with profound and often humorous lyrics. As a pianist, while admiring jazz masters Bud Powell and Lenny Tristano, he also learned from composers such as Bartok, Ives, Hindemith and Ruggles. The fusing of these diverse elements into a cohesive performance continues today. A biography, One Man’s Blues: The Life and Music of Mose Allison, written by Patti Jones, was published in 1995 by Quartet Books Ltd. Of London.

Mose continues to write and perform all over the world. His songs have been covered by Van Morrison, John Mayall, The Who, The Clash, Eric Clapton, the Yardbirds, Elvis Costello and Bonnie Raitt to name a few. Van Morrison recorded a tribute album, Tell Me Something, The Songs of Mose Allison, on Verve Records, and rockers like Pete Townshend, Bonnie Raitt, Ray Davies and Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones have frequently cited Mose Allison as a major influence. During a recent London engagement, Time Out, the major entertainment weekly, praised Mose:


Mose Allison’s popularity in the UK dates from the ‘60s, when his mixture of Delta-born blues feel and his gift for writing a song with a sting in the tail made him a prime source of inspiration for the UK’s new generation of blues/rock artists. Not just namechecked but lionized by the likes of Pete Townshend, Jack Bruce, Brian Auger and Georgie Fame, he became British rock’s most popular jazz musician. His piano style is notable for its strange mixture of classical-influenced sophistication and blues-based intimacy, and there’s still none like him with a lyric.

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 01.19.10 @ 00:34am

Mo Mose
Yes 310%


Mose Allison's Songs Covered by Other Musicians


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Bangles

Blues Project

Brian Auger

Herman Brood


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Michael Chapman

Paul Butterfield

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Ray Condo

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Georgie Fame

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Gories

John Hammond

Steve Hill

John Hillman

Ben James

Diana Krall

The Kingston Trio

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John Mayall

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Roy Rogers

Dave Van Ronk

Leon Russel

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Chris Spedding

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Bill Wyman

The Yardbirds

Johnny Winter

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Everybody Cryin' Mercy
I’m Not Talkin’

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Parchman Farm

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Parchman Farm

Everybody Cryin’ Mercy, Your Mind is on Vacation

Parchman Farm

Days Like This

Young Man Blues

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Your Mind is on Vacation

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Ask Me Nice, & Everybody’s Cryin Mercy

Top Forty

Your Mind is on Vacation

Everybody’s Cryin Mercy

Stop This World

Parchman Farm

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Parchman Farm

Parchman Farm

Young Man Blues

I Don’t Want Much, I Don’t Worry bout a Thing, If You Only Knew, Your Mind is on Vacation, City Home Tell Me Something, Benediction, One of These days, Back on the Corner, No Trouble Livin’, Days Like This and Night Club

Your Molecular Structure, Everybody’s Cryin’ Mercy

How Much Truth

Top Forty

Everybody Cryin’ Mercy

Monsters of the ID

Foolkiller

Stop This World

Middle Class White Boy

One of These Days

I’m Smashed

You Don’t Really Love me Baby, If You’re Going to the City

Big Brother, I’m Not Talking, City Home

Parchman Farm

Parchman Farm

Young Man Blues

Days Like This

I’m Not Talking

Parchman Farm

If You Live

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 01.19.10 @ 00:46am

Darlene Love and Laura Nyro will eventually be inducted!

Posted by RAKER on Monday, 01.25.10 @ 09:45am

My response to the induction of the Hollies into the HOF---should have happened TWENTY years ago!!! They are one of the truly great bands of the sixties and seventies. They had everything--great vocalists--great musicians--great songwriting. What hurt them was lousy management and even worse marketing. As for all the complaining about who should be in the hall,the problem is chronological, or lack thereof. The HOF should start at 1955 and year by year correct their oversights. Jumping decades,back and forth, has created this problem. We have to admit this method creates a lot of buzz --could this be intentional???????

Posted by Linda on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 01:52am

"The Stooges" should have been put in years ago

If the hall of fame commitee had any sence whatsoever this list should be packed with bands

Posted by Chris on Monday, 02.1.10 @ 19:12pm

The real criteria of the RRHOF

1. Success
2. Contribution
3. Development
4. Influence
5. Sophistication

The RRHOF tends to lean toward 2-4. Remember that success doesn't always indicate fame.

For example, Boston may be a highly successful band, but they don't have much of a legacy.

Posted by Lucario on Monday, 02.1.10 @ 22:09pm

Well... It's a pity KISS didn't make it, but congrats to the Stooges. I'm not that big a fan, but even I know it's way overdue. Genesis deserve it as well, and I'll certainly accept Jimmy Cliff being in. ABBA's an odd choice, but if Madonna and Michael Jackson deserve it then they absolutely do (they might have been an influence on the former.) An ideal ceremony for next year:
-T.Rex (clears the way for any other glam acts that are deserving)
-The Smiths (clears the path for the other British indie acts, like New Order)
-Deep Purple (way overdue; not really clearing the lane for anyone, but...)
-Alice Cooper (him and the NY Dolls, THEN KISS, then the deserving hair bands)
-Judas Priest (Removes one big elephant from the room, opens the door for them to induct Maiden, Motorhead, Slayer, etc.)

Posted by Sam on Monday, 02.8.10 @ 18:35pm

Future Rock Legends Picks For Induction Speeches

•The Stooges :: Patti Smith
•Genesis :: Chris Martin (A recent artist)
•ABBA :: Elvis Costello
•Jimmy Cliff :: Mick Jones (The Clash)
•The Hollies :: Steven Van Zandt (E Street)

MY PICKS

•The Stooges :: Patti Smith

•Genesis :: Dave Matthews (Might be saved for a Peter Gabriel induction though; maybe he'll do both)

•ABBA :: Elvis Costello most likely (Other obvious choices: The Bee-Gees, Peter Cetera, Madonna, Roxette, Ace of Base)

•Jimmy Cliff :: Mick Jones (I can't say)
•The Hollies :: Steven Van Zandt (Who the hell knows!)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 00:54am

Good choices, Roy. Costello would be a very strong presenter for ABBA, as would Bono, who has credited the band in the past. ABBA, a band dismissed as lightweights for too long by too many who really weren't paying attention, deserves to be inducted to the Hall by a presenter of substance.

Posted by Scott on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 03:29am

On induction speeches, since Bono did so well with Bob Marley, why not him for Jimmy Cliff?

Too bad Falco can't give the ABBA speech...

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 07:42am

Well, Paul in KY: in place of Falco, I will go with After the Fire!

I am rather suprised of all the attention regarding Peter Gabriel's probable non-appearance is getting. Many of you fellow fans do realize that Gabriel left Genesis in 1975; this was followed by Steve Hackett leaving in 1977. That means, more albums under the Genesis moniker were made without Gabriel and Hackett than with them. Do not get me wrong: the classic line-up of Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, and even Phil Collins stands up as their best collective recordings. It was still great and influential works long after the Gabriel and Hackett eras ended.

Frankly, so long as Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford were involved, it was Genesis. I would definitley be expecting Banks and Rutherford to show up at the induction ceremony, considering that everything named Genesis had those two noted artists. I would also expect Phil Collins to show up as well: in spite of his subpar solo career, Phil with Genesis was quite good. Admittedly, were Peter and/or Steve to not show up, I do not think I would lose sleep over it.

Now, I am of the inference that Peter Gabriel will be inducted for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2011. This will be for his individual works, which has been more fruitful, plentiful, and expansive than his Genesis years. Genesis' induction as a band this year actually makes the advocacy for the evntual inductions of Gabriel, Hackett, Banks, and Rutherford on their own easier. And yes, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Tony Banks, and Mike Rutherford will be inducted on their own individual works in the near future. Of those four, Gabriel will be inducted in 2011; this I am certain.

By the way, I am not too certain if Chris Martin by himself would be the ideal choice to present Genesis. Would not Thom Yorke and/or Jonny Greenwood be more of a perfect fit?

For any of you that think an induction for Peter Gabriel for the Class of 2011 is too soon, here is an interesting development: one year after Michael Jordan, John Stockton, and David Robinson were inducted into the Basketball Hall of fame, and in the same class of 2010 that will likely include Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen, those five are likely to be inducted again as part of the 1992 Dream Team. In fact, pretty much every member of the Dream Team, with the exception of Christian Laettner, will be inducted twice as their own selves and as the Dream Team. This type of consecutive induction processes in certain fields, while not commonplace, does indeed occur. Peter Gabriel being inducted in the Class of 2011, as well as Sting for his own individual works, will occur and will certainly be welcome.

Just what is "Der Kommisarr" about?:),

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 19:02pm

Lax,

the comment about the basketball hall of fame has nothing to do with how people are inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame at all, what a dumb comparison.

Posted by Brian on Friday, 02.12.10 @ 19:28pm

Well, let's see...

ABBA won't reunite for induction... attendance is questionable.

Gabriel won't attend. Other members of Genesis?

Asheton's gone, rest of Stooges may be there.

Half the N-Ps this year are dead.

I dunno about you, but from where I sit, this year's ceremony is looking to blow big time.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 02.17.10 @ 17:54pm

Apparently the ABBA International Fan Club claims to have confirmation that Benny Andersson and Frida Lyngstad will attend the induction for ABBA. Unlikely they'll perform together though both are still active performers. Many will be disappointed if Agnetha and Bjorn stay away though it's no small feat to have Benny and his estranged former spouse appear together. Still I'm doubtful they'll perform "That's What Old Friends Do" together.

(Coincidentally, perhaps, Polydor will release a Benny Andersson Band album for the first time in the US on March 2nd. "Story of a Heart" first charted in the UK last summer and the title track, co-written by Benny with Bjorn Ulvaeus and performed with Helen Sjoholm, got a fair amount of radio play with many noting its distinct ABBA flavour.)

Posted by ns_kid on Wednesday, 02.17.10 @ 18:23pm

"Apparently the ABBA International Fan Club claims to have confirmation that Benny Andersson and Frida Lyngstad will attend the induction for ABBA. Unlikely they'll perform together though both are still active performers. Many will be disappointed if Agnetha and Bjorn stay away though it's no small feat to have Benny and his estranged former spouse appear together. Still I'm doubtful they'll perform "That's What Old Friends Do" together." Apparently Agnetha's retired and doesn't really like flying, kind of like Christine McVie. As for the idea of any drama, they all get along privately.

I dunno about you, but from where I sit, this year's ceremony is looking to blow big time.
Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 02.17.10 @ 17:54pm

I think Hackett's going to show up. Possibly Collins, probably Tony Banks. From what I've heard the Stooges are going to attend, but how interested will people be without Asheton? Yeah, I think it won't be that good. I have an idea that the reason why Wenner wants to reduce it to 20 years is so that they can get to G'N'R and Seattle faster, because those will bring a fast cash flow, and also they can get to Green Day and Radiohead and Oasis (if they reunite) faster, which are all big money inductions. I mean, aside from Ozzy, the Chili Peppers and Bon Jovi and maybe Def Lep and the Crue, none of the people who are eligible are really going to bring performances that tons of people are going to tune in to see (Boston, Journey, Foreigner and REO Speedwagon don't count because they're basically playing state fairs nowadays. If Foreigner reunited with Lou Gramm and Journey with Steve Perry they might start having big performances again, though.) Any thoughts?

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 16:37pm

"I have an idea that the reason why Wenner wants to reduce it to 20 years is so that they can get to G'N'R and Seattle faster, because those will bring a fast cash flow, and also they can get to Green Day and Radiohead and Oasis (if they reunite) faster, which are all big money inductions. I mean, aside from Ozzy, the Chili Peppers and Bon Jovi and maybe Def Lep and the Crue, none of the people who are eligible are really going to bring performances that tons of people are going to tune in to see (Boston, Journey, Foreigner and REO Speedwagon don't count because they're basically playing state fairs nowadays. If Foreigner reunited with Lou Gramm and Journey with Steve Perry they might start having big performances again, though.) Any thoughts?"

Yeah, there is also a strong counternotion that Wenner's doing it because he wants to inflow more hip-hop and rap, particularly those who worked to define hip-hop/rap as a culture separate from rock culture. And that he's worried that if he doesn't change it, he may soon end up with a Hall of Fame with Kiss (close miss this year), Rush, or Deep Purple in it. Wenner could get cash flow easily if he (or more specifically the NomCom) would start paying more attention to what the people are saying. It's a tricky balance, to be sure. You don't want to induct a one-hit wonder just because enough people lost their virginity to their song and have a lingering love and nostalgia for it, but by the same token, you shouldn't forever ignore the major crowd draws. Rock'n'roll remains alive and is perpetuated when the people are buying and listening to it. And admittedly, you don't want to make the Rock Hall ballots a Mulletfest (white males playing guitar driven rock), but you have to accept the fact that since the early 70's, it IS the white male guitar acts that were and are doing most of the heavy lifting in keeping rock'n'roll around.

As far as performances... you're right, people want to see a performance like Metallica which had both Rob and Jason, not like Van Halen's which had only Bill and Sammy. Foreigner without Lou; Journey without Steve... just won't be as meaningful.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 17:09pm

Yeah, there is also a strong counternotion that Wenner's doing it because he wants to inflow more hip-hop and rap, particularly those who worked to define hip-hop/rap as a culture separate from rock culture. And that he's worried that if he doesn't change it, he may soon end up with a Hall of Fame with Kiss (close miss this year), Rush, or Deep Purple in it. Wenner could get cash flow easily if he (or more specifically the NomCom) would start paying more attention to what the people are saying. It's a tricky balance, to be sure.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 17:09pm
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If that really was one of Wenner's motives, it's a truly terrible ideal. Rock & Roll still exists, to this day, & does not need anybody's help to keep going. Let those who have tried to separate the two keep doing so if they wish. Rock doesn't need hip-hop, nor will it ever. It merely needs young people w/imagination to jump into the fray.

As for a Kiss/Purple crowd getting in, well, I've discussed already what my take on it is. They might get in as an alternative to Priest/Maiden/Crue/Lep, but that's only cause the NomCom is looking at it precisely as that - the lesser of two evils.

It's a pity they don't realize it's the lesser of no evils (but then again, I'm just a silly ol' fan, so, you know...)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 17:54pm

"If that really was one of Wenner's motives, it's a truly terrible ideal. Rock & Roll still exists, to this day, & does not need anybody's help to keep going."

Maybe not, but a Rock Hall is the reason I discovered artists like Ruth Brown and LaVern Baker... it does do some good. And the Rock Hall needs Rolling Stone's powers that be, unfortunately.

"Let those who have tried to separate the two keep doing so if they wish. Rock doesn't need hip-hop, nor will it ever. It merely needs young people w/imagination to jump into the fray."

How can you type that and keep a straight face?

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 18:14pm

"Let those who have tried to separate the two keep doing so if they wish. Rock doesn't need hip-hop, nor will it ever. It merely needs young people w/imagination to jump into the fray."

How can you type that and keep a straight face?

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 02.18.10 @ 18:14pm
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Cause the music still isn't done. Not by a long shot. There's a great cry out there that says you have to look for the music these days. Somebody must be looking for it, cause there are still young people talking up whose big today. Sometimes they show up over here. It's the reason I've purposely asked a few people who divulged they were in high school or college what their particular taste in music was.

In addition, if I'm to believe you, you have stated you're in your late 20's-early 30's. That makes you a few years younger than myself (mid-30's). Certainly you have a clue as to what's going on. Do you not technically bear my theory out yourself?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 02.19.10 @ 06:39am

Correction to last post:

"whose" should be "who's"

Aahhh, the blissful sleepwalking ignorance of a morning post...

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 02.19.10 @ 06:42am

I dunno.... young kids with imagination... that itself may itself be too hard to imagine.

Do I bear it out myself? I'm older than 27, so I'm statistically too old to begin to be popular with the kids and spark their imaginations, too.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 02.19.10 @ 19:28pm

Philip: I agree. Some metal fans feel that Metallica only got in because of their style change in the 90's, and it took Sabbath a while to get in. But look what happened once they got Metallica in; a huge audience! Consequently, it's easy to ignore Maiden, Priest, Deep Purple, Motorhead, Thin Lizzy and co. because they were never extremely huge in the U.S. so they wouldn't draw a giant audience (whereas if they started another U.K. Hall of Fame or a European Music Hall of Fame those guys would go in easily and people would pay attention.) Hell, maybe if they paid a bit more attention they'd realize that Maiden are HUGE in South America and so inducting them might draw a big South American audience, and Purple are still big in other parts of the world (I know they played some South African stadiums in December.) I do think that they shouldn't do a fan vote because then plenty of non-worthy acts would get in with the overlooked worthy acts, but at the same time I think the fans do have an impact. For example, there was hate mail towards the Hall about how the Stooges got passed over by the 500 voters, what, 6 or 7 times? Finally, I think the resistance was enough to wear them down. Likewise, Dave Marsh said he would try and keep KISS of the ballot, but I guess the protests were enough to make him break. Ditto for Genesis, though the fact that they became a non-prog hit machine in the 80's makes them an easier choice and doesn't necessarily open the door for other prog artists.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 11:01am

Sam, I think you're right about Genesis... they were trying for a group that you don't really think of when you say "prog rock" but do in a way fit the bill.

Although I gotta disagree about your comments about those other acts' popularity. The most outcry about overlooked acts have been precisely for those acts you've dismissed as being not big enough in the U.S: Priest, Motorhead, Deep Purple, Rush, etc. The problem is, that they are all white guitar acts. And Wenner so proudly states that rock'n'roll is the music of the Black man, which is why the push for hip-hop has been so huge. Look at Digital Dream Door... even they're referring to hip-hop as a form or rock'n'roll. That may have been true at one point, when hip-hoppers were borrowing FROM rock'n'roll records, and I don't think in terms of eligible artists, we've yet reached the point where it stopped being true, but that creates a mindset to keep out precisely the acts that there has been most outcry for.

As for the Stooges... remember... there's a difference between the Nominating Committee and the voters. The NomCom put the Stooges on 7 times... it's the voters who rejected them 7 times. Threaten the NomCom all you want, but as long as they keep putting them on the ballot, they're doing all they CAN do. Personally, I think the system should be tweaked slightly so that the inductees should be the Top Five vote-getters PLUS a sixth that is the most favored by the NomCom, but didn't receive enough votes to be Top Five. The NomCom could prioritize a list... and if the top five priorities were the top five vote-getters, then the sixth priority on that list would be the sixth inductee. This would've gotten the Stooges in years ago, imo, and would probably get Chic in, and would have avoided the workaround induction of Wanda Jackson altogether, allowing her to get in as a Performer, instead of an Early Influence.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 23:40pm

Sorry. Yeah, I knew they were nominated 7 times, meaning that half the time they were eligible they were nominated. That's the fault of the 500 voters, I meant to say. My bad. As for hip-hop, I don't have a problem with the important artists getting in (I'll be rooting for Public Enemy and N.W.A. when their time comes.) This will be an interesting year: The Hall has a backlog of 50's and 60's artists that some people feel are worthy, a bunch of Hard Rock and Metal Artists they've overlooked (Megadeth are eligible for the first time this year) and alternative/indie they've missed on both sides of the Atlantic. On the U.S. side, I get the feeling that The Replacements, Dinosaur Jr. Husker Du and Sonic Youth are all eligible (don't know much about them) so just induct all four of them. In the U.K. it's ridiculous. Gang of Four (should induct before RHCP), The Smiths, The Cure, Joy Division and New Order are all deserving of being in and The Stone Roses are eligible for the first time this year (I'm on a New Order fix right now, as I'm a Brit living in the U.S. and might be returning home this summer.) What do they want to do? Focus in on one particular category or try and pick into each category to try and satisfy everyone? Very interesting year. Peace.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 02.21.10 @ 16:45pm

Since we are bringing up theories as to whom will show up at the induction ceremony, maybe we all can agree that Jimmy Cliff is certain to be there. It is much easier to appear when it is one person, rather than a group.

I do hope the surviving Stooges show up. In fact, I expect Iggy Pop to cause quite a ruckuk. James Williamson is also a certainty. I am not too sure regarding Scott Asheton, however.

Sam, I think if Journey were to ever be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the first thing that would need to happen would indeed be for Steve Perry to re-unite with the rest of the guys: or at least Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain. However, we never know the true context of ideas regarding Perry. Say one thing about Peter Gabriel in relation to Genesis: at least they are all friendly toward one another. I would not be surprised if they privately did something together in light of Peter Gabriel's and Steve Hackett's 60th birthdays (born one day apart!). Also, once Gabriel does get inducted on his own accord next year (assumedly), I am certain one of his old bandmates, probably Phil Collins, would like to present him.

Regarding Foreigner; not only would I and others like to see Lou Gramm and Mick Jones do things jointly again. I would hope for Ian McDonald to be involved in some form. That may not happen, though. Sadly, I do not know if Boston will ever be inducted. Three years have passed since Brad Delp died, and from what I gather the band still continues forthward. It is not the same, though. Delp was Boston; moreso than Tom Scholz, in my opinion.

I am of the opinion that KISS will be a finalist again by the end of this year. On the basis of marketing and visual ideas alone, these guys are deserving of induction. I just do not think it will occur so soon.

One other thing: The Smiths are undoubtably one of the most important alternative pop bands I and many others have had the pleasure of hearing. Morrissey on his own is very superb and provacative. At the very least, The Smiths deserve to be finalists for the RRHOF Class of 2011. Now, if only Johnny Marr did not have his head up his arse for so long.

These were just some thoughts I have. Hopefully we will be up to speed ina few short months once we are all predicting who will be next for induction. It has been rather slow as of late.

Joy Division IS New Order,

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Sunday, 02.21.10 @ 18:05pm

I don't care at all about Journey and am in no rush to see them inducted, but I agree that the Hall would probably feel more comfortable inducting them if Steve Perry was back with them. Ditto for Foreigner and Lou Gramm, as their newest album tanked and they're basically playing state fairs these days (I don't care about Foreigner either, and again, am in no rush to see them inducted.) I don't feel that Boston really deserves it either, though I like some of their stuff. I must disagree with you, though, in that if anyone in Boston's heyday could stand up and shout "I AM Boston!" it would be Tom Scholz. The band was essentially his baby, as he wrote pretty much all of the songs, composed half to most of the guitar parts, played keyboards, and he produced the albums as well. Not to take anything from Brad Delp as he had a great voice. Their audience had kind of dwindled by the time Brad died, so they basically have a cult following now, and seem content to just tour, which won't do them any favors with the Hall. KISS' new album kind of tanked which will hurt their cause, but yeah the chances of them being inducted are good, I just feel that Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, NY Dolls and T. Rex should all get the nod first. KISS, however, are deserving simply based on their influence. I'm not that big a fan of The Smiths, but I'd be an idiot to deny that they should've been inducted first ballot. I think most people feel that it's Morrisey who's got the big ego. Their chances for induction would definitely increase if they reunited, but after all this time Britain still loves them, they're well-received critically in the U.S. and Rolling Stone does seem to like them, so I think they will get in eventually. As for Joy Division and New Order: I'm new to listening to JD but to me they are a completely different thing from New Order. In fact, the New Order sound is something that JD might've gone on to do if Ian Curtis had lived, you never know. They both seem to be important in their own ways (New Order bridging the gap between indie clubs and dance floors, JD being the first post-punk band) and thus both deserving, but obviously New Order is the only one that has a chance of being inducted. They're critically acclaimed on both sides of the Atlantic, and Rolling Stone does seem to have recognized them, so I believe they'll find a way in eventually.
Sam

Posted by Sam on Monday, 02.22.10 @ 17:10pm

The presenters for the 2010 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame have been announced:

ABBA - Barry Gibb and Robin Gibb of the Bee Gees
Genesis - Trey Anastasio of Phish
Jimmy Cliff - Wyclef Jean of Wu-Tang Clan
The Hollies - Steven Van Zandt of E Street Band
The Stooges - Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day

David Geffen - Jackson Browne
Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil - Carole King
Ellie Greenwich & Jeff Barry - Carole King
Jesse Stone - Carole King
Mort Shuman - Carole King
Otis Blackwell - Carole King

THE BEE-GEES FOR ABBA!! I KNEW IT! I WAS RIGHT!

ANOTHER FIRST THIS YEAR FOR THE ROCK HALL, NOT ONLY ARE THEY INDUCTING 8 IN THE NON-PERFORMERS CATEGORY, THEIR MOST EVER, BUT THEY HAVE CHOSEN ONE PERSON, CAROLE KING, TO GIVE THE INDUCTION SPEECH FOR 7 (5) OF THE 8 NON-PERFORMER INDUCTEES. I WONDER IF SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO WALK OUT ON STAGE 5 TIMES FOR EACH INDUCTION!

OH NO, WAIT, LET ME GUESS, THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE THOSE PORTIONS OF THE GRAMMYS WHERE ONE PERSON (BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL BREAK) TELLS YOU THE NAMES OF ALL THE WINNERS IN THE CATEGORIES THAT DIDN'T GET TELEVISED EARLIER ON IN THE CEREMONY, AND THEIR NAMES SHOW ON THE SCREEN, BUT IN THE ROCK HALL'S CASE, THIS PORTION WILL BE TELEVISED.

I'M GUESSING THE ROCK HALL IS GOING TO MAKE ONE VIDEO BIOGRAPHY THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE NON-PERFORMER INDUCTEES THAT CAROLE KING IS INDUCTING, THEN CAROLE KING IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE NON-PERFORMER INDUCTEES AT ONCE AND THEN THEY ARE ALL GOING TO COME UP ON STAGE, TAKE THEIR TROPHIES AND TAKE TURNS SPEAKING. ANOTHER FIRST FOR THE ROCK HALL. SAVING TIME!

I WONDER IF THIS MEANS CAROLE KING WILL BE INDUCTED IN THE PERFORMERS CATEGORY IN 2011.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.23.10 @ 09:04am

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Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 02.23.10 @ 09:57am

The presenters for the 2010 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony have been announced:

ABBA - Barry Gibb and Robin Gibb of the Bee Gees
Genesis - Trey Anastasio of Phish
Jimmy Cliff - Wyclef Jean of the Fugees
The Hollies - Steven Van Zandt of E Street Band
The Stooges - Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day

David Geffen - Jackson Browne
Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil - Carole King
Ellie Greenwich & Jeff Barry - Carole King
Jesse Stone - Carole King
Mort Shuman - Carole King
Otis Blackwell - Carole King

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.23.10 @ 10:06am

Well I suppose they had to get a kind of "mainstream" name for the Stooges, though I think there surely must be better choices out there. The rest I'm fine with.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 02.23.10 @ 10:21am

Ugh... big zilch for all of my predictions on presenters. And a big noe-thumbing towards the songwriters in my opinion. One person to have to extol all of them? More like a blanket praise for all of them. Please Carole, do each inductee some serious justice!

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 02.24.10 @ 19:28pm

Carole King is probably going to perform for all the non-performer inductees as well. Hopefully complete songs and not medleys.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.25.10 @ 15:45pm

http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-announces-its-presenters-for-2010-inductions/

14 MORE DAYS!!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.1.10 @ 08:28am

Will this year's ceremony be streamed on the internet?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 06:39am

Faith Hill, Chris Isaak, Train, Ronnie Spector, Fefe Dobson, Eric Burdon, Peter Wolf, and Maroon 5 will be performing at the ceremony, but the Rock Hall is not saying which artists will be performing for which inductees.

They are also working on a performance to represent all the songwriters who are being inducted in the non-performers category, with a variety of special guests.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 06:55am

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Posted by snipe point little cayman on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 13:24pm

Faith Hill? Seriously? Hell no! Maroon 5? BLARGH!

Ronnie and Eric I'll give it up for, though I'm not a big fan of Eric's voice.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 15:54pm

Maroon 5? Soul for pasty, soulless, non-swinging people. Faith Hill wishes she was real country. I don't know who they're supposed to perform for, though I'll give Eric Burdon his due. Train? Please. Alternative-lite. I don't know who any of them are supposed to be performing for. Certainly not the Stooges or Genesis. They don't really have any connection to ABBA or Jimmy Cliff. Since Eric was one of the main figures in the British Invasion I'd guess he's doing the Hollies, though I don't know what they're thinking with the rest of them. The Hall's going to lose even more credibility if it makes choices like these, and I think I'll pass on watching the ceremony for that reason.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 16:26pm

I'm kinda thinkin' that Eric Burdon will probably do an ABBA medley...but that's just me...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 18:26pm

I'm guessing Maroon 5 will be doing a tribute to the Hollies.

Ronnie's GOTTA be doing a tribute to Barry and Greenwich... only logical conclusion.

Faith... I can only imagine ABBA.... if she pays tribute to Jimmy Cliff, I will jump through the f'in TV set and stab her.

Train will probably do Genesis... the Phil Collins era Genesis.

Burdon... Stooges? I dunno.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 18:28pm

ok its called the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME not the disco hall of fame or the rap hall of fame kiss should be in there cause the ones that are getting inducted are not even touring or even have an album out so KISS should have been inducted.

Posted by jamie on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 17:29pm

ok its called the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME not the disco hall of fame or the rap hall of fame kiss should be in there cause the ones that are getting inducted are not even touring or even have an album out so KISS should have been inducted.

Posted by jamie on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 17:29pm

1) I agree that KISS should be inducted
2) Rap and Disco are a part of rock and roll! The fact that you don't like either doesn't allow you to change the fact that both evolved out of Rock. The good people over at Digital Dream Door have a great explanation here as to why rap is: http://forums.nutsie.com/viewtopic.php?t=13710
3) Learn to use punctuations and make sure that you capitalize the first letter on the first word of your sentence. It helps people respect your opinion.

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Posted by chicago cutlery cutting board on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 20:50pm

It's starting to look like the all-star jam at the end of the ceremony will be for the Non-Performer inductees music. That would be a first I think! I highly doubt it will be the music of Jimmy Cliff, The Stooges or ABBA. It will most likely be The Hollies or Genesis, if not the non-performers.

The Rock Hall has not posted the inductee bios yet on their site. They are really behind this year!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 05:30am

Roy, the inductee biographies on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame website are usually not posted until the induction ceremony occurs. I have noticed this before.

I must say that I am a bit weary of the selected performers for this upcoming ceremony. Though not by all of them. I think Faith Hill is quite good: not rock, but maybe a country crossover type that has been quite sucessfull. I could see Faith Hill performing one of the Hollies' country-fied hits in their Hicks/Sylvester/Calvert era.

Maroon 5 are not that great of a band. The first time I heard of these guys, about seven years ago, was when "Harder To Breathe" came out. Initially, I thought it was Justin Timberlake. In my opinion, Maroon 5 have gotten stale ever since. Same goes for Train. When first hearing "Drops Of Jupiter", I initially thought it was The Black Crowes. Yet again, Train have gotten lamer ever since. It does not bode well for a band to have a hit song and have people thinking it is a much better act. Exhibit Q: Klaatu, whom were supposed to be The Beatles. They were not, of course, and their importance dried up pretty fast.

By the way, Eric Burdon on his own does not bode well for me. Would it be that much of a problem for the Animals to re-unite for one more time?

Regarding whom performs Genesis: I still think, at the very least, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford will perform along with Phil Collins in one point; then, for the most part, Steve Hackett will join in. Do not be surprised if Peter Gabriel does not attend, due to his dates on the "New Blood" tour. Although, it would be nice for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation would induct Gabriel by next week if only to give an added incentive to appear. This will likely not occur until the Class of 2011; for which an induction for Peter Gabriel on his own is a certainty, both in an induction and in his appearing at the ceremony.

KISS might go in for the RRHOF Class of 2011, or they might not. These guys will certainly be finalists for the second time.

With respect to the chicago cutlery cutting board: thank you for the free advertisement. However, I am not interested in your products.

Well, less than one week to go. Let us hope this induction ceremony is memorable. I am still not feeling the need for Maroon 5 and Train to be performing. Now, if it were Justin Timberlake, or even the Black Crowes, then I would be intrigued.

The Carpenters were infinitely better than Klaatu,

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 19:15pm

This is getting interesting! According to inside sources from Billboard Magazine who have connections to the Rock Hall, not only will Phil Collins, Tony Banks, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Anthony Phillips, and Mike Rutherford be inducted, but other members as well might be inducted. The ones you never see in music videos or on album covers. The ones you see performing with Genesis in concerts and hear on albums: Chester Thompson (drums) and Daryl Stuermer (guitar). Stay tuned to see if this actually happens. I wonder what this means for Chicago, BS&T and Deep Purple!

The Grateful Dead and Parliament Funkadelic are still the only groups in the Rock Hall with more than 9 members each, inducted!

Phil Collins was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2003, and now he's getting another award from the Song Hall in June. Peter Gabriel has not been inducted into the Song Hall yet.

Where's Lax?

This is who All Music Guide lists as members of Genesis

Phil Collins
Peter Gabriel
Steve Hackett
Anthony Phillips
Tony Banks
John Mayhew
Mike Rutherford
John Silver
Ray Wilson
Chris Stewart

GENESIS

SINGERS

Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, Ray Wilson

PIANO/KEYBOARDS/SYNTHESIZERS

Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, Tony Banks

GUITAR

Anthony Phillips, Steve Hackett, Mike Rutherford, Daryl Stuermer

DRUMS

Phil Collins, Chris Stewart, John Silver, John Mayhew, Chester Thompson

Genesis has had 12 members:

Peter Gabriel
Phil Collins
Tony Banks
Mike Rutherford
Anthony Phillips
Steve Hackett
Chris Stewart
John Silver
John Mayhew
Chester Thompson
Daryl Stuermer
Ray Wilson (Won't be inducted; Collins replacement in 1997 for just one Genesis album)

11 members of Genesis can be inducted:

Peter Gabriel
Phil Collins
Tony Banks
Mike Rutherford
Anthony Phillips
Steve Hackett
Chris Stewart
John Silver
John Mayhew
Chester Thompson
Daryl Stuermer

5 members of Genesis get talked about in the media as being inductees, but that doesn't mean anything:

Peter Gabriel
Phil Collins
Tony Banks
Mike Rutherford
Steve Hackett

We will have to wait and see what actually happens!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 04:43am

5 MORE DAYS!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 10:45am

http://rockhall.com/inductees/

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S 2010 INDUCTION CEREMONY PAGE IS NOW UP! SO ARE THE INDUCTEE BIOS!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 09:22am