I cruised to this page from a "horns" sign page...Found it all interesting since i am also into music.

The sign is definitely old school italian and even old mobsters used it but they would also throw it at you for added effect.

Posted by Tasman on Wednesday, 05/1/2013 @ 14:12pm

You are getting the hand signs mixed up dude.Youre talking about the Italian mano cornuto which is a down poking the eyes out hand position.The devil sign of the horns is a raised upward salute with the thumb on the 2 middle fingers in a circle position so that its shadow will look like a goat head.\m/

Posted by bastardboy on Saturday, 05/4/2013 @ 12:43pm

What happened to this page man? Guess Jimmy and that lot just all got sick of it.

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Posted by GFW on Thursday, 07/4/2013 @ 18:01pm

Wow - it has been maybe 4 years since I wandered by this page. And the same strange argument is still happening.

News Flash - Coven is never being inducted into anything other than the scrap heap. Forget influence and satanic bullshit. In the end, it is about the music. And Coven just didn't have the chops. Simple as that. Maybe they used the horns and inverted cross on stage first - big f'n deal. Their music is horrible. The musicianship and songwriting is bottom of the barrel.

On another note, Jinx Dawson does have a big following of fans and I think that is great. Whether you love her for her music, her former sexy look or her beliefs, it is good to see a fan base remain loyal. Hats off to you all.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 02/7/2014 @ 14:46pm

Lots of coments about the theatrics and little about the music - When it comes to music - and Jinx's voice - Coven's "Blood on the Snow is a great musical work, just did not get the distribution it deserved. "Blue Blue Ships" is a masterpiece, "Lost Without a Trace", and "Lady O" are marvelous tracks - and rank with some of the best music I've ever heard......

This combined with the historical side of Coven is enough for induction into any honorary status...... Their music influenced and inspired me, as a musician and fan of music just as much as every other great band's recordings did. No less.

The fact that they did it with pretty much one album is even more of a testament to their musical abilities. Also I should note the guitar leads on "Blood on the Snow" were amazing as well....I have a long standing land to learn every solo one day to add to my favorite rock and roll guitar licks tool kit.

Posted by Mark C. Wilson on Tuesday, 07/15/2014 @ 02:09am

Lol Coven will NEVER get into the HOF idiots!

That first album was unmemorable folk psych with a cartoon black mass acapella wasting half the b-side. yawn... why it sells for $100 on Ebay is beyond me. Jinx Dawson can really sing but let's be honest without Tin Soldier nobody would know who she even is! Some still don't

Influence on Sabbath? bwahaha Ask Geezer if he's ever heard of the band Coven..he'll say "bloody who?"

You satanist Coven fanatics need to face reality, the HOF is for TALENT,INFLUENCE and MAINSTREAM success. Outside of Jinx the band had none!
After Manson and TLB Mercury dumped that album in the trash. Mediocre band with a cool schtick for the times nothing more. NEXT?

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Coven

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Coven

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Coven

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Coven

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Coven

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02/27/2016 @ 06:43am

First off, i really enjoy Coven's music.
Do i think they influenced musicians that came after them? Yes i do.
However the limited influence they've had only really happened in the internet age when a younger audience discovered their music.
The likes of Blood Ceremony, Purson, Cauchemar, The Devil's Blood & Blues Pills all seem to have taken a little something from Coven musically, and several of those bands took the image/look/subject matter on board too and freely acknowledge Coven's inspiration.
Does this make them worthy of induction? Nah, not really. But since when were real rock bands interested in awards anyway?
It's supposed to be rebel music, and if Coven stood for anything it was rebellion.
Tell the hall of fame to stick it & keep music evil! ;)

Posted by Beezer Gutler on Wednesday, 08/16/2017 @ 17:01pm

...And as a footnote, all the 'evil' 'satanic' bally-hoo stuff had been done long before Coven, amongst others Screamin' Jay Hawkins made all that backwoods boogah-boogah his schtick decades before, complete with that 'throwing-the-goat' hand gesture.
The Grand Guignol theatre in Paris was famed for their shocking theatrics at the turn of the 19th/2oth century if you want to go back a little further.
Ain't nothin' new in showbiz, every generation just gets it in a different package.

Posted by Beezer Gutler on Wednesday, 08/16/2017 @ 17:08pm

This is apparently the most commented page on this site, and the band is in 2nd place in most votes.

Contrary to popular belief, Rock and Roll is not the devil's music. I don't think the Hall should embrace this misconception, and it would be bad for them to induct this band. A further strike against them is that they are only really known by people who are passionate about music.

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Posted by Roseline Charlotte on Sunday, 11/3/2019 @ 07:30am

So when do we ever recognize people as being the originator just because they did it first?
Especially when the band we thought did it first said they didn't.
Just because in 1967 Jinx Dawson,a real Satanist to this day started a band to teach people how to do the real satanic spells during their live shows, including the Black Sabbath that was included on their debut album.
Just because Coven opened for Black Sabbath before and after the Black Sabbath's name change.
Just because Black Sabbath went from
a non satanic name to a satanic name
( Even though no one in the band was a Satanist.) Near the beginning of a satanic movement doesn't mean Coven had any influence on them.

Black Sabbath are rock gods
So even though they said they didn't do it
We should still give them the credit
As fan I'm much more comfortable with that then I am thinking that the rock gods were following a girl.

Posted by Miles Romine on Sunday, 06/21/2020 @ 18:33pm

I would like to point out that the crazy world of Arthur Brown was not satanic.

Black Sabbath was riding a wave of satanism and goth..
Coven was the only band openly doing that.

Posted by Miles Romine on Sunday, 06/21/2020 @ 18:43pm

So when do we ever recognize people as being the originator just because they did it first?
Especially when the band we thought did it first said they didn't.
Just because in 1967 Jinx Dawson,a real Satanist to this day started a band to teach people how to do the real satanic spells during their live shows, including the Black Sabbath that was included on their debut album.
Just because Coven opened for Black Sabbath before and after the Black Sabbath's name change.
Just because Black Sabbath went from
a non satanic name to a satanic name
( Even though no one in the band was a Satanist.) Near the beginning of a satanic movement doesn't mean Coven had any influence on them.

Black Sabbath are rock gods
So even though they said they didn't do it
We should still give them the credit
As fan I'm much more comfortable with that then I am thinking that the rock gods were following a girl.

Posted by Miles Romine on Sunday, 06/21/2020 @ 19:14pm

Are rock fans throwing the devil's horns or a similar-looking gesture the Italian mano cornuta?

Can we know for sure? YES.

Words mean things, and it's human nature to associate words or names with an event.

Black Sabbath said that the hand gesture was the mano  cornuta
Or the evil eye.
So, if rock fans were associating it with Black Sabbath they would be calling it  mano cornuta or the evil eye.

Universally it is called the Devils Horns. ( even by Black Sabbath. )
More importantly it is called the Devils Horns by Black Sabbath Fan's
So even Black Sabbath fans do not associated it with Black Sabbath.

So why is the hand gesture associated with the Devil?

In 1967 a woman raised as a Satanist started a band to spread
her satanism and the Devils horns
Are part of a real Black Sabbath.
Need I remind people in 1967-68 to see any kind of open unapologetic satanist was a big deal.
● A Satanist throwing a hand gesture and calling it The Devil's Horns that name is going to stick.

● Between 1967 and 1969 anyone
Seeing the live shows saw the Black Sabbath done live and the Devils Horns gesture is part of the Black Sabbath. This is backed up
By photos taken at the time.
● what made it spread in 1969 the first satanic band to sign with a major label, Coven release there debut album Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls.
Inside a picture of a very nude woman on a satanic altar giving herself to satan during the Black Sabbath and a circle of worshippers
Around her all holding the Devil horns gesture, this was same real Black Sabbath that Coven preformed live from 1967 Until 1969
Can you say gone viral!
Everyone was sharing this picture.

6 months after its release Christian
Had protested burned and banned
Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls. Coven was fired, the
Band eventual broke up.
And there was a complete ban
On talking about Coven.

Imho Black Sabbath Could not talk about Coven and may have been
Afraid of Christians Backlash if they
Found out about Satanist having
Access to their kids at their concerts.
So you give a baloney filled
Answer to someone not in the club.

Posted by Miles Romine on Tuesday, 06/23/2020 @ 01:38am

Is the Devils Horn the same as The Italian "mano cornuta"?
● The Devils Horns done right has the face of Satan Represented in the gesture.
□ The Italian mano cornuta does not have the face of Satan Represented

How to do the Italian mano cornuta "
Make a fist, than extend your pointer and pinky fingers. Than point your fingers in the direction of the person who
You are mad at.
□ What is important is not the two
Fingers pointing but the other fingers.
Your thumb will over lap the two fingers or be on the side.
There is no face of satan.

The Devils horns has the face of satan represented when done properly.
● How to do the Devil horns.
Make a fist and extend your pointer and pinky finger's.
• Take your thumb and with the tip
Cover the fingernails on your ring and middle fingers. The tip of your thumb should touch both knuckles now point your horns Up in the air, the tip of the thumb makes A frowny face.
The big boney second knuckles of your middle and ring fingers are the ram horns coming back off the top of satan's head and twisting up sides the pointer and ring.

You have to account for all the fingers
Not just two.

Dio never knew what he was talking about because he wasn't a Satanist.

The Devils horns Came from
Coven or The Beatles and
Crowley.

The Beatles didn't preform the Black Sabbath on stage for 3 years 1967 until
1969, so I'm with Coven.

Posted by Miles Romine on Wednesday, 07/1/2020 @ 20:55pm

Tony & Geezer said they got the name 'Black Sabbath' from a horror film starring Boris Karloff which was playing in a Cinema across the street from where they practiced. They were called 'Earth' at the time but when they went to play a gig there was already a band with that name on the same bill, they had already written a song called Black Sabbath so they just decided to use that name and try to write about horror themes, and sound spooky. ☺

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