Future Rock Legends predicts the 2022 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees

Future Rock Legends predicts the following 16 eligible artists will be on the 2022 ballot:


Artists who have never been nominated...

  • Eminem - It's shaping up to be a big February for Eminem with an almost certain Rock Hall nomination and a Super Bowl halftime performance.

  • Big Mama Thornton - Two years ago, Nominating Committee member Alan Light said, "we put Sister Rosetta Tharpe on the ballot really to force the hand of the Early Influencers committee to say, this is somebody that needs to be in." Look for a similar approach to happen here with Thornton, who inexplicably has never been on the ballot. (As we've written about many times, it's a terrible idea to nominate artists on the Performer ballot just to induct them in a different category anyway, but that's the way the Rock Hall prefers to do it.)

  • Big Star - There are some artists like Big Star who would do extremely well with a segment of the voting committee, but don't have the wider popularity and name recognition to be inducted. The Rock Hall needs to recognize more artists in this category.

  • Alanis Morrisette - One thing that's become clear in recent years is that the Nominating Committee are heavily influenced by documentaries (just last year, the Go-Go's, Tina Turner, and Clarence Avant all benefited from the films about their careers). Morrisette's HBO doc might be enough to get her on the ballot.

  • Duran Duran - The general consensus with those who follow the Rock Hall closely is that after The Cure and Depeche Mode were inducted, Duran Duran is next in line.

  • Jimmy Buffett - For many legacy artists, a Rock Hall induction is the only honor left for them to achieve. Buffett inducted the Eagles back in 1998, so he's no stranger to the institution, and he also has business ties to Rock Hall-influencer Irving Azoff.

  • Beck - It's still unbelievable Beck hasn't been nominated before.

  • Cher - If Cher gets nominated, 99% of people will think, "she wasn't already in?" - and will once again question the validity of the whole enterprise.

Artists who have previously been nominated...

[Predictions posted January 31, 2022]


Artists are eligible for the Rock Hall 26 years after releasing their first record (anyone with a record released up through 1996). Future Rock Legends lists eligible artists by first year of eligiblity or alphabetically.

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PREDICTION FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Ben E. King
Mary Wells
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
The Shangri-Las
Chubby Checker
Harry Belafonte
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick
Willie Nelson
Judy Collins
Phil Collins
Steve Winwood
The Kingston Trio
Peter, Paul & Mary
The Spencer Davis Group
Jan & Dean
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
Carly Simon
Foreigner
Joy Division / New Order

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 19:50pm


I need The B52's to be nominated and inducted ASAP

Posted by Emma on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 19:50pm


Most Likely picks: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Dionne Warwick, Iron Maiden, Fela Kuti, Soundgarden, Rage Against the Machine

Probably will happen picks: Joy Division/New Order, Chaka Khan and/or Rufus, Duran Duran, J.Geils Band, Mötley Crüe

Never happening in a million years picks: Blur, Slade

Posted by Raichu on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 20:48pm


Predictions

Eminem
Cher
The Smiths
The B-52s
Mariah Carey
Soundgarden
OutKast
Duran Duran
Dionne Warwick
Rage Against the Machine
Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus)
Carly Simon
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Kool and The Gang

Possible inductees out of my predictions.

Carly Simon
Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
Mariah Carey
OutKast
Pat Benatar

Early/genre influence:

Big Mama Thornton
MC5
The Carter Family

Musical Excellence:

Gram Parsons
The J.B's
The Meters

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 20:57pm


"Weird" Al Yankovic
Phil Collins
Huey Lewis and the News
Styx
Meatloaf
ELP
The Monkees
Warren Zevon
Pat Benetar

Posted by @InductWeirdAl on Thursday, 12/9/2021 @ 23:20pm


Possible predictions for 2022 class.

Nominees:

Mary J. Blige - Now I anticipated that Blige would be inducted by next year since the Hall decides to evolve every year but I might not see her second nomination by that point so we'll see. .

Pat Benatar - I get why people wanted Benatar inducted but her work alone always hadn't stood the test of time & with that said, I might see her nominated again alongside her husband Neil Giraldo.

Kate Bush - I think what's holding her back is basically she's doesn't have a lot of success in America (the Hall has a tendency to induct artists whom are successful in the U.S) & she's more of it in the U.K. With that said, I don't see her being nominated again unfortunately.

Duran Duran - They defined MTV generation & when it comes to induction chances, I think it's 100% possibility that they will be shoo - ins for 2022 inductions.

Eminem - He's one the most important figures in music. He's a sure thing for induction by next year.

Iron Maiden - Despite their ambivalence towards the Hall, Maiden are very worthy of induction & they'll have my vote but I'll be a crime if they do get inducted before such likes as Judas Priest & Motorhead.

Joy Division/New Order - These acts inspired a lot of young teenagers to form 90s alternative rock bands & been a cultural phenomenon for the ones that influence them. With recent inductions of The Cure & Depeche Mode. They definitely need to be inducted into the RRHOF.

Judas Priest - Heavy Metal is having a really hard time with the institutions like the RRHOF & it took bands like Black Sabbath & Deep Purple a long time to get in & Judas Priest has been nominated already twice, still not in & their third nomination will might be a charm for them sooner or later.

King Crimson - Prog Rock like Heavy Metal is having a hard time with the RRHOF (although Yes & Moody Blues were recently got in) & King Crimson is one of them getting shut out of it. They were influential to not just fellow prog bands but also contemporary artists as well. Robert Fripp is one of the most innovative guitarists of the 20th century. They definitely deserves to be in the RRHOF!

Fela Kuti - This one is the most shocking nomination that I've seen in the Hall's history, despite having influence he's the most obscured artist in the bunch. With that said, I could see him inducted under "Musical Influence".

New York Dolls - Their influence is big as other honorees (David Bowie, The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, T. Rex & Roxy Music) & with a documentary about them coming up, I think it's going to push their chances of induction even though they were nominated twice.

Diana Ross - Tina Turner & Carole King inducted as solo artists, I think Ross should be the next one after them since she had a successful career as one after The Supremes.

Smashing Pumpkins - Foo Fighters are officially the FYE inductees so I think Smashing Pumpkins should be considered for nomination as they're one of 90's bands to leave a bigger legacy with their first 3 albums & rest of their work is remarkable at times.

Soundgarden - Nirvana & Pearl Jam brought grunge into mainstream but Soundgarden came to defined it before these bands so there wouldn't be grunge if it weren't for them. They were nominated once but they'll likely receive a second one at some point.

Thin Lizzy - They were known for their twin lead guitar attack & it later refined & popularised by Judas Priest, Iron Maiden & Def Leppard. They brandished a unique style of showmanship & songwriting in bandleader Phil Lynott & influenced bands like Metallica & Alice in Chains. They are definitely deserving of induction.

Warren Zevon - Maybe he''ll get in as a peformer or the other way around. He's one of the biggest collaborators in music & influence a number of artists.

Class of 2022 inductees:
Performer Category:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
New York Dolls
Diana Ross
The Smashing Pumpkins
If 7
Judas Priest

Musical Influence:
Slade
Fela Kuti
Big Mama Thornton

Musical Excellence:
King Crimson
Chaka Khan
Warren Zevon

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 00:18am


RETURNING NOMINEES
1. Dionne Warwick
2. The Spinners
3. Chaka Khan, w/ or w/o Rufus
4. Pat Benatar
5. Judas Priest
6. Soundgarden
7. Eric B & Rakim
8. Rage Against the Machine

NEW NOMINEES
9. Eminem
10. Mariah Carey
11. Carly Simon
12. Joy Division/New Order
13. Smashing Pumpkins
14. Duran Duran
15. The B-52's
16. Toots & The Maytals

INDUCTEES
1. Eminem
2. Mariah Carey
3. Pat Benatar
4. Smashing Pumpkins
5. Duran Duran
6. Dionne Warwick

INFLUENCE
1. Big Mama Thornton
2. MC5

MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
1. Chaka Khan
2. Carol Kaye

Posted by RG on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 11:20am


My end of the year predictions:

The 60s:
Dionne Warwick

The 70s:
New York Dolls
Diana Ross
Sparks
The Spinners

The 80s:
Pat Benatar
Iron Maiden
Husker Du
Chaka Khan
Eurythmics
Kool and the Gang

The 90s:
Soundgarden
The Smashing Pumpkins

All-Generational:
Fiona Apple

The 2000s:
Eminem

The Class:
Eminem
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
The Smashing Pumpkins
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick

Musical Influence:
Joe Tex
Big Mama Thornton
MC5

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Carol Kaye
Ashford and Simpson

AE award:
Rick Rubin

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 13:51pm


Nick Drake. I first heard this amazing music one late night driving home from NYC on one night in 1976 on WNEW FM . To this day almost 50 yrs later I can still listen to his music and get the same goose bumps and mind bumps . His music was just " other worldly" .
PLEASE consider him for inducttion " nuff said"

Posted by Arthur Dekko on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:05pm


Plebeian,

What about your 12 Days of Prediction-Mas? The other page is still accesable, and you only have a few days left.

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:11pm


Follower,

Moving it to this page for all to see. Thankfully, I copied all of my profiles so you don't have to worry.

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:23pm


HOW WOULD YOU RANK THEM?

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME,

RANKED FROM MOST LIKELY TO LEAST LIKELY TO BE INDUCTED:

01. Dionne Warwick
02. Willie Nelson
03. Harry Belafonte
04. Waylon Jennings
05. Lionel Richie (The Commodores)
06. Kenny Loggins (Loggins And Messina)
07. Cyndi Lauper
08. Huey Lewis And The News
09. The Pointer Sisters
10. Sheila E. (Sidemen; Musical Excellence)
11. Bob Geldof (Non-Performers Category; Lifetime Achievement)
12. Al Jarreau
13. James Ingram
14. Bette Midler
15. Kenny Rogers (The First Edition)
16. Kim Carnes
17. Jeffrey Osbourne (L.T.D.)
18. Randy Jackson (Sidemen Category)
19. LaToya Jackson
20. Dan Aykroyd (The Blues Brothers)

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA WHO ARE IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Quincy Jones
02. Ray Charles
03. Smokey Robinson
04. Stevie Wonder
05. Diana Ross
06. Michael Jackson
07. Marlon Jackson
08. Tito Jackson
09. Jackie Jackson
10. Tina Turner
11. Bob Dylan
12. Paul Simon
13. Bruce Springsteen
14. Billy Joel
15. Lindsey Buckingham
16. Daryl Hall
17. John Oates
18. Steve Perry

MEMBERS OF USA FOR AFRICA INDUCTED TWICE INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1990; 2001 - Paul Simon (Simon and Garfunkel)
02. 1991; 2021 - Tina Turner (Ike and Tina Turner)
03. 1997; 2001 - Michael Jackson (The Jackson Five)

Diana Ross will be the last member of USA For Africa to get a second induction.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 14:30pm


My Nominee Predictions:

Bad Brains
Pat Benatar
Daft Punk
Devo
Duran Duran
Eminem
Eurythmics
Foreigner
Judas Priest
Pixies
Diana Ross
Rufus Featuring Chaka Khan
Salt-N-Pepa
Soundgarden
Weezer
Warren Zevon

My Class Prediction:

Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
Foreigner
Diana Ross
Warren Zevon

Posted by Zack F on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 18:00pm


Pat Benatar
Devo
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Joe Cocker
Anthrax
Dio
Motley Crue
Chubby Checker
Soundgarden
Lou Rawls
Huey Lewis and the News
Stray Cats
KC and the Sunshine Band
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Sugarhill Gang
Coolio
Steve Winwood
Robert Palmer
Blood, Sweat, and Tears

Posted by Garrus on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 20:30pm


10 out of 12! Almost there!

10. Motörhead

Origin: London, England

Band Members: Lemmy*,
Phil Campbell, Mikkey Dee, "Fast" Eddie Clarke*, Phil "Philthy Animal" Taylor*, Wurzel*

Defining Songs:
1. Overkill (1979)
2. Ace of Spades (1980)
3. Iron Fist (1982)
4. Eat The Rich (1987)
5. The Game (2002)
Defining Albums:
1. Overkill (1979)
2. Ace of Spades (1980)
3. No Sleep Til' Hammersmith (1981)

Previously Considered: Nominated in 2020

Most Culturally Defining Moment: Lemmy. Enough said.

Influences: Sex Pistols, Deep Purple, MC5

The Legacy: Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pantera

Decade: All-Generational

Full of motor oil and cheap beer, Motörhead was a heavy metal that was nothing, but being fast and tough. The rock god Lemmy was no ordinary figure, being able to churn out music like no tomorrow and have a tendency to become badass. Motörhead never were ones for glory, but that didn't stop every Heavy Metal band in existence to pay respects to them. Lemmy may be dead, but his mythical presence lives on…. Louie Louie oh baby! Do they have a chance!

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 21:01pm


Forgot to add band*

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/10/2021 @ 21:02pm


Hey Guys,

According to Induction Ceremony director Joel Gallen on the latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast, The 2022 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony will return to Los Angeles and will be held in LA in early November of 2022.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 10:18am


Richie,

I think it's a perfect location for the ceremony since it always being held in NYC or Cleveland. With that i might see RATM finally being inducted next year since they're from LA. Maybe Devo too, i think since some of them are living there as of today even though they're from Akron, Ohio.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 18:12pm


11 down, 1 more to go!

11. Jane's Addiction

Origin: Los Angeles, California

Band Members: Perry Farrell, Eric Avery, Stephen Perkins, Dave Navarro

Defining Songs:
1. Mountain Song (1988)
2. Jane Says (1988)
3. Been Caught Stealing (1990)
4. Stop (1990)
5. Just Because (2003)
Defining Albums:
1. Nothing Shocking (1988)
2. Ritual De Habitual (1990)

Previously Considered?: Nominated in 2017

Most Culturally Defining moment: Perry Farrell forms the annual Lollapalooza concert festival (1991-)

Influences: Jimi Hendrix, Rush,
The Cure

The Legacy: Radiohead, The Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against The Machine

Decade: Late 80s-Early 90s

In a way, Jane's Addiction was a band that we're ahead of their time. Bringing a precursor to the 90s rock scene, they brought sounds of provocative imagery and hybrids of rock like no other. Perry Farrell remains a creative frontman and force in rock and Dave Navarro is one hell of a tattoo guitarist. With the formation of Lollapolooza, the band revolutionized the concert festival scene for all to enjoy. Jane Says a lot, but it seems the Hall wants to hear more.

Coming Up…

My Name Is..
My Name Is..
My Name Is..

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 12/11/2021 @ 21:36pm


I am moving over to this page. Here is my list again
Predictions for 2022 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Nominees
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Mary J. Blige
Duran Duran
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Joy Division/ New Order
Dave Matthews Band
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick

Early Influence
Bing Crosby
Charlie Parker
Big Mama Thornton
Dionne Warwick
I'm hesitant on Early influence in the Rock era. The original definition is pre Rock musicians much like Charlie Parker. The ones before a lot of the Inductees were born

Music Excellence

Chaka Khan
King Crimson
Warren Zevon

I'm still mulling this category over

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 05:11am


I like a lot of your predictions, particularly Greg F's and Jordan's.

Mine (right now) are:

Cher
The Monkees
Eminem
Sade
Chaka Khan
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Outkast
Iron Maiden
Soundgarden
Alanis Morrisette
Rage Against the Machine
Kate Bush
The B-52s

Seems like the right balance of previous nominees and first timers and keeps the MTV-ish character of the new management

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 09:06am


Pat Benatar
Eminem
Judas Priest
Kate Bush
Carly Simon
The B-52's
Diana Ross
Thin Lizzy
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Duran Duran
Motörhead
Rage Against the Machine
New York Dolls
Devo
Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
Jethro Tull
Eurythmics
Outkast
Beck

If there's a few less than 20 I probably take out Jethro Tull, Eurythmics and Beck

Posted by Jay on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 09:43am


02pm

Richie, Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 12, 2021- There are only 19 days left in 2021. In approximately 45 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in exactly 53 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Rush.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. See Rush.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming.

Please let me think about the other 9.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 10:37am


Adding Kool and The Gang, The Monkees, The Spinners, Sparks, and Motörhead to my predictions

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Posted by Raichu on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 12:01pm


My serious predictions fail year after year, so I'll only write down my wishlist, a little name-dropping just for fun.

The B-52's
Eurythmics
Pixies
Willie Nelson
Gram Parsons
The Runaways
Motörhead
Dionne Warwick
Kate Bush
Wu-Tang Clan
Eminem
New York Dolls
PJ Harvey
Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Esther Phillips
Connie Francis

Here are some recommendations for the other categories:

Influences:
Patsy Cline
The Carter Family
Son House
Big Mama Thornton
Blind Willie McTell
The Weavers
Lightnin' Hopkins
Cab Calloway
Django Reinhardt
Roy Brown
Sarah Vaughan
John Coltrane
Harry Belafonte
Dizzy Gillespie
Charlie Parker
Ella Fitzgerald
Townes Van Zandt

That list could go on and on...

Musical Excellence:
Mickey "Guitar" Baker & Sylvia Robinson
Barrett Strong
Brian Eno
Dr. Dre
Jackie Brenston
The guitar gods, like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen or Rory Gallagher
Sheila E.
Nicky Hopkins
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The rest of the Wrecking Crew, especially Carol Kaye, Glen Campbell, Larry Knechtel, Tommy Tedesco, Jim Gordon, Jim Keltner, Don Randi, Plas Johnson, Al Casey, Bill Pitman, Chuck Berghofer, Ray Pohlman, Al De Lory,...

Industry:
Rick Rubin
Alan Lomax
Bernie Taupin
Tony Visconti
Giorgio Moroder

Posted by MichaelEU on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 12:48pm


Do we think the Carpenters have any chance of consideration anytime soon?

Posted by Brasssection on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 13:08pm


Just posting this since it was near the end of the 2021 inductee page. It's the Kiosk results. This could factor into your predictions. It's how DMB and Pat & Neil got nominated anyway.

1. Motley Crue
2. Iron Maiden
3. Pat Benatar
4. Blink-182
5. Dave Matthews Band
6. Dolly Parton
7. Weezer
8. Cher
9. Styx
10. Boston
11. "Weird Al" Yankovic
12. Snoop Dogg
13. Rage Against The Machine
14. Jimmy Buffett
15. Tool
16. Jethro Tull
17. Alice In Chains
18. Ozzy Osbourne (Solo)
19. Duran Duran
20. Phish
21. Smashing Pumpkins
22. REO Speedwagon
23. Soundgarden
24. Selena
25. Foreigner
26. The Monkees
27. The Smiths
28. Phil Collins (Solo)
29. Sublime
30. Korn
31. Garth Brooks
32. Freddie Mercury (Solo)
33. Judas Priest
34. OutKast
35. Huey Lewis & The News
36. Jim Croce
37. Meat Loaf
38. Daft Punk
39. Backstreet Boys
40. Alanis Morissette
41. Wu-Tang Clan
42. The Cranberries
43. Bad Company
44. Poison
45. Pantera
46. Eminem
47. John Prine
48. Oasis
49. Three Dog Night
50. Pixies
51. Kansas
52. Kid Rock
53. Rick Astley
54. Goo Goo Dolls
55. Barry Manilow
56. Cyndi Lauper
57. Nas
58. Joe Cocker
59. George Michael
60. Willie Nelson
61. Warren Zevon
62. DMX
63. Megadeth
64. Peter Frampton
65. New Kids On The Block
66. Slayer
67. Ted Nugent
68. Blue Oyster Cult
69. Toto
70. Billy Idol
71. Mariah Carey
72. Little Feat
73. Motorhead
74. Devo
75. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
76. Grand Funk Railroad
77. The Guess Who
78. No Doubt
79. Mary J. Blige
80. Barenaked Ladies
81. Eurythmics
82. INXS
83. Luther Vandross
84. The B-52's
85. Bryan Adams
86. The Offspring
87. King Crimson
88. Joy Division
89. Lenny Kravitz
90. Beck
91. Stone Temple Pilots
92. Sammy Hagar
93. Dr. Dre (Solo)
94. New Edition
95. Cake
96. The Replacements
97. Tears For Fears
98. They Might Be Giants
99. Wilco
100. A Tribe Called Quest


Also take into consideration that every class since 2013 has had at least one act with a Diamond album.

Posted by Follower on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 15:13pm


This is it guys. The final day. It has been a blessed time to talk about snubs. I hope this was fun for all of you. Now, onto the final one!

12. Eminem (Marshall Mathers) (1972-)

Origin: St. Joseph, Missouri

Defining Songs:
1. My Name Is (1999)
2. The Real Slim Shady (2000)
3. Stan (2000)
4. Lose Yourself (2002)
5. Without Me (2002)
Defining Albums:
1. The Slim Shady LP (1999)
2. The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
3. The Eminem Show (2002)
4. Recovery (2010)
5. The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (2013)

Most Culturally Defining Moment:
Too many to count.

Influences: Aerosmith, Run-D.M.C, Dr.Dre

The Legacy: Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar, Lana Del Ray

Decade: 2000s

The real Slim Shady, B-Rabbit, Stan man himself, Eminem. The most decade-defining rapper and dissing musician of the 2000s, MM has broken genre-barriers and racial ones into becoming like no other. He remains a controversial figure of course, however, people aren't perfect and in a way he seems to change for the better. We all regret the past, but we all learn from it to become a better person. In retrospect, dude had obstacles and struggles to become revered and matured as he is now. Eminem still remains a true artist to his word and has created his place in the world of music even till this day.

This was fun! Again! Thoughts?

1. The Replacements
2. Devo
3. Harry Nilsson
4. Rage Against The Machine
5. Soundgarden
6. The Smiths
7. New York Dolls
8. Gram Parsons
9. Warren Zevon
10. Motörhead
11. Jane's Addiction
12. Eminem

Posted by Plebeian on Sunday, 12/12/2021 @ 19:35pm


Plebian, will be gobsmacked if Eminem is not elected next year. But then I said same thing about OutKast...

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 07:14am


KING DEC 2021 Quick 20 Nominations For 2022.
1. Duran Duran
2. Scorpions
3. Pat Benatar
4. Kool & The Gang
5. Eminem
6. Bryan Adams
7. Soundgarden
8. The Eurythmics
9. Lenny Kravitz
10. Rage Against The Machine
11. Bad Company
12. Diana Ross
13. Iron Maiden
14. Smashing Pumpkins
15. Billy Idol
16. Foreigner
17. Chaka Khan
18. The Spinners
19. Emmylou Harris/Gram Parsons
20. Judas Priest

Cool Awards- Early Influence (3)
1. Link Wray
2. MC5
3. The Sonics
Musical Excellence (3)
1. Chaka Khan if she falls short in the regular voting.
2. Los Lobos
3. Procol Harum

I think a couple Wild Cards are The Monkees since Nesmith's death and there have been plenty of people wanting The Monkees inducted. The Wrecking Crew being inducted would be a creative way to Induct Carol Kaye, Glen Campbell, and Larry Knechtel etc. This backlog of Heavy Metal is bothersome as Iron Maiden & Judas Priest should be inducted. Plus, Motley Crue has still not been enshrined. I would like to see The Guess Who & The Grass Roots inducted but not sure if they could be inducted on the 15 or 16 artist ballot. They might need a Special Award.
KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 12:33pm


My gut is saying 17 names. Number listed next to the artist is where they ranked in all-time Spotify plays when I checked out the list a little over a week ago.

Eminem (#8)
Mariah Carey (#173)
Weezer (#440)
OutKast (#488)
The Smiths (#517)
Rage Against The Machine (#527)
Smashing Pumpkins (#621)
Motley Crue (#691)
Cyndi Lauper (#802)
Cher (#844)
Mary J Blige (#852)
Eurythmics (#935) (+ Annie Lennox at #632)
Duran Duran (#944)
Diana Ross
Chaka Khan
Bad Company
Warren Zevon

Seven female fronted acts plus a female bassist in Smashing Pumpkins. Plenty of acts featuring people of color. Bad Company/Warren Zevon feel like acts that could get in immediately if they ever got on the ballot, so perhaps they're given a shot here.

This ballot would be INCREDIBLY competitive. Nobody is a sure thing. Don't think Smiths, Rage, Mary or Chaka have a shot though.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 14:55pm


My list.
Motley Crue
The Carpenters
The Monkees
Salt n Peppa
Phil Collins
Cher
Bryan Adams
Foreigner
Rick Rubin.

Posted by William Ott on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 16:41pm


I'm very surprised that nobody has brought up Celine Dion in the conversation for this year yet, I've heard and read that she has had some serious health issues in the past few months with her postponing her new Vegas residency at Resorts World due to having severe and persistent muscle spasms in her legs and feet and that she's paralyzed from the COVID-19 vaccine and she can't get out of bed or walk or move and that she's also very weak and has lost a lot of weight, so I was just wondering that if her health issues would get her a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year, I know that she's not a critical favorite by any means, but the Hall has embracing populist acts since 2013 and Celine fits the populist act bill perfectly, Do you guys think that Celine could get a surprise nomination for the Rock Hall this year based on the populist trend and also her recent health issues?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 16:44pm


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Mr. XFL on Monday, 12/13/2021 @ 21:15pm


richie,
I think the reason nobody has brought up Celine Dion for this year yet is there is also a backlog of pop Performers to be nominated soon that are Pop are Mariah Carey, Cher, Diana Ross, Cyndi Lauper, Gloria Estefan, George Michael, Phil Collins. These have all come up in the conversation. Critics have been mostly favorable with these. I would welcome these first. And these take priority. What do you think?

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 04:10am


Mariah Carey
The Guess Who
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Carpenters
Eric B. & Rakim
Afrika Bambaataa
Pixies

Posted by chuvakla on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:01am


Mariah Carey
The Guess Who
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Carpenters
Eric B. & Rakim
Afrika Bambaataa
Pixies

Posted by chuvakla on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:01am


Plebeian,

Nicely done with your twelve days series, The last three all seem pretty worthy of enshrinement.

Motorhead is, of course, a seminal act in the development and evolution of metal, but they may have to wait until more populist acts like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden get in. We all know metal has a tough time getting respect, so this may take awhile. They deserve to get in though.

Jane's Addiction also is very deserving. I always kind of link them to Nine Inch Nails, in that they are the brainchild of of an eclectic and innovative mastermind that never received the mainstream recognition they deserved. Personally, I'd put them in after Smashing Pumpkins and Soundgarden, and maybe after Alice In Chains. But they'd get in.

And Eminem is this year's no-brainer. One of the most distinctive and innovative figures in rap, he should sail in on the first ballot. And deservedly so.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 07:48am


Who I would like nominated and who I think will be nominated are quite different

I would like

Patsy Cline
Fanny
Tommy James And The Shondells
Paul Revere And The Raiders
Willie Nelson
Carly Simon
Diana Ross
Spinners
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kate Bush
Duran Duran
UFO
Eurythmics
INXS
Sparks

Who I think will be nominated

Eminem
Pat Benatar & Neil Geraldo
Judas Priest
Rufus with Chaka Kahn
B'52's
Dionne Warwick
Diana Ross
MC5
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
J. Geils Band

Posted by John B on Tuesday, 12/14/2021 @ 11:01am


I think it's an overrated consideration that an on-the-bubble nominee might tip the scales by being on tour, having a prominent member(s) in terminal health, or having had one or more previous times on the shortlist. The RaRHoF is above all a popularity contest, and even then, its own fan balloting is not a good predictor. That said, they seem to loving early MTV acts lately so Benatar and Duran Duran may finally break through. As much as I would love to say they're showing pro-metal basis lately, it's hard to call Bon Jovi or Def Leppard "metal" though they have many heavy songs on their first few albums. There will always be an artist or two who are simply not rock in any way (looking at you, 2Pac and Whitney, may you both rest in peace) while snubbing metal. They have shown that they will throw prog the occasional bone like they have with Rush and Yes, so I would predict that if there will be any pleasant surprise, it will be Tull or Crimson finally making it.

Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 00:14am


Who I think should be nominated & inducted:

Possible nominees

1970's:
Judas Priest
Kool & The Gang
Diana Ross
Thin Lizzy
Slade

1980's:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
George Michael
Jane's Addiction
Motorhead

1990's:
Alice in Chains
Mary J. Blige
Rage Against the Machine
OutKast

2000's:
Eminem

Possible Class of 2022 inductees:
Performer Category:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
Judas Priest
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

Early (Musical) Influence:
Fela Kuti
MC5
Big Mama Thornton

Musical Excellence:
Rory Gallagher
Kool & The Gang
Nas

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Dougie Tokori on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 03:09am


Two bands you won't see...

Bachman Turner Overdrive
The Guess Who

Prediction that Celine Dion will get the Induction.

Change the name from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to Rock and Roll Hall of Farce.

Half the inductees do not deserve to be there.

Posted by Travis Moore on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 08:34am


richie,
I would love to hear what you think about Celine Dion as compared to Mariah Carey, Diana Ross and Cher. Tell me what you think

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 10:34am


Ben,

I know that, but Celine has sold more records and is a much bigger and more popular act than any of those acts except Mariah, I feel that with her recent health issues, I think she could get a surprise nomination this year.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 11:00am


Richie,

Please NO!

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 12:13pm


richie,
Well there you go I mentioned Mariah. I think she will be nominated long before Celine Dion. Whereas Celine Dion is regarded as Easy Listening pop. Mariah has taken on a few genres. The Hall looks for that with Pop performers. Mariah is Not what we call Rock perhaps but she fits in with Both Pop and R&B a lot. So instead Mariah could get a surprise nomination. That's what I think. It's true Celine has health issues. But she has stayed the course with Easy listening. Mariah and others have Not.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 14:34pm


Rock Hall has not been nominating a lot of easy listening acts. The closest thing to it in recent times was Dionne Warwick who didn't get in last year. If she can't get in I don't think voters are going embrace singers like Celine Dion. So Celine Dion getting a surprise nomination is very unlikely going to happen.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 16:19pm


Figured I'd post this to make it easier on myself next time a rock haller dies.

Living Members of The Classes of 1986-2009 (expect 2007), and 2012:

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 23/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Calvin Simon, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive, and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 14 or 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson. It is unknown if Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive or dead.)
2012: 29/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Norman Thrasher, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.)

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 16/19 (Cowboy, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 20:03pm


I'm sorry Travis but this isn't the Hall of Favorites, it's called the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I don't know who these half of the inductees are you referring to, but they are inducted for a number of reasons & there's nothing we could do about. BTO is nowhere near as worthy of induction & The Guess Who is a long shot. As for Celine Dion, i don't mind if she gets nominated but i doubt i'll happen anytime soon.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 20:53pm


Joy division

Posted by stevi colden on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 21:13pm


To Jordan E.- It won't (ever)...

Posted by EDS on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 21:34pm


Greg F.,
Exactly my point, I didn't even remember about Dionne Warwick. Dionne Warwick is notable for having hits in the 60s with Burt Bacharach and Hal David songs. There were no big hits during the early and mid part of the 70s, aside from 1974's "Then Came You", recorded as a duet with the Spinners. But she she had huge success again in the late 70s and early80s with some huge hits. Now the point is if Dionne Warwick didn't get in I agree that voters will probably not embrace Celine Dion. Now Mariah Carey getting a surprise nomination is much more likely. She has done some easy listening music but has done much in R&B and even mild Hip Hop. Mariah Carey has a good chance NOT Celine Dion.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 03:49am


If Dionne can't get in, then NFW will Celine get in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 07:36am


The nominating committee doesn't likely consider someone's health when submitting their names. So I don't think anyone would be like well Celine Dion is in poor health let's nominate her.

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 14:54pm


So Eminem is this year's shoo-in nominee/inductee. I'm curious if there's anyone else eligible this year that you guys think might get a nomination. Or who you think might eventually be considered. Here's my next 5 from the group that's eligible in 2022.

1. Fiona Apple - Her star has really risen in the last few years and she received tremendous acclaim for her newest album. She's the only other newly eligible act I think even has a chance of getting nominated. The powers that be may decide she has to wait until Kate Bush, Bjork, Tori Amos, etc. get their due though.

2. Fatboy Slim - One of the rare EDM artists to hit the mainstream, Fatboy slim stands a decent chance of getting a nomination some day. Not right away though.

3. Erykah Badu - She's the super cool epitome of neo-soul and has tons of friends in the music business, so an eventual nomination seems likely.

4. Belle & Sebastian - Indie darlings with plenty of critical acclaim. That could be a recipe for induction.

5. Slipknot - Maybe the biggest metal band of the last 25 years. Might get some consideration.

Others to consider - Maxwell (His popularity exceeds his sales numbers), N'Sync (If a boy-band is going to make it, it's them), Nickelback (I know, I know...but they were really popular for awhile), Spice Girls (A phenomenon for a very short while with a lasting fan base), Trans-Siberian Orchestra (If you can get in just for Christmas songs)

That kinda tells you about this year's crop. Not much after the first five. For the record, my favorite newly eligible act is Travis. Not the most creative or innovative but I like their songwriting and my wife and I listened to them repeatedly on our honeymoon, so they hold a special place for me.

Posted by Michael W. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 15:13pm


I highly doubt N'Sync will ever be in the Hall, but Justin will probably be inducted as a solo act. (I could kinda see the Backstreet Boys take it... key word kinda).

Slipknot might be inducted one day, but they are very controversial (much more than Motley Crue who are apparently banned), and we all know how the Hall is with metal bands. I think they will be like Iron Maiden where they wait a long time before they're nominated. Only difference is, Slipknot is far heavier and scarier than Maiden were. The Hall is ran by old white men, and a band like Slipknot (who's music is much more extreme than Metallica or Black Sabbath ever were) will no doubt have a tough time convincing the Hall about their worthiness.

Posted by Henry on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 19:08pm


My predictions for the 2022 nominees are:

The B-52's (Eligible since 2003, First Nomination)
Pat Benatar (Eligible since 1999, Second Nomination)
Mary J. Blige (Eligible since 2017, Second Nomination)
Kate Bush (Eligible since 2003, Third Nomination)
Chaka Khan (Eligible since 1998 w/Rufus and since 2003 as Solo, Fourth Nomination/Eighth Including Four w/Rufus)
The Commodores (Eligible since 1999, First Nomination)
Eminem (First Year Eligible)
Eurythmics (Eligible since 2006, Second Nomination)
Iron Maiden (Eligible since 2004, Second Nomination)
The Monkees (Eligible since 1991, First Nomination)
New York Dolls (Eligible since 1998, Third Nomination)
Rage Against The Machine (Eligible since 2017, Fourth Nomination)
Sade (Eligible since 2009, First Nomination)
Sonic Youth (Eligible since 2007, First Nomination)
Soundgarden (Eligible since 2011, Second Nomination)
Dionne Warwick (Eligible since 1987, Second Nomination)

I have 10 Returning Nominees and 6 First-Timers for a total of 16 nominees this year, Also I think this year's nominees is going to mirror 2021's with a lot of women and people of color nominated.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 21:34pm


Since everyone else on FRL is predicting who will make the R&R HoF class of 2022 nominees list, here's one more:

Pat Benatar: The shocker of a few years ago was when she (and Neil Giraldo) didn't make the cut. With the addition of seven women (okay, only five that weren't in the hall last year) she/they will be back.

Joe Cocker: Probably the biggest act at Woodstock that isn't already in. Deserves it.

Duran Duran (or perhaps INXS, or perhaps both): As described above, defined--particularly Duran--the MTV generation. If nominated, one or both should get in. Of the two, Duran Duran has a better probability, because the original lineup will be able to perform--Showtime does want a live performance.

Eminem: This year's first-year-eligible inductee. Welcome to Cleveland.

Judas Priest/Iron Maiden/Motley Crue/etc.: The fans (judging by Facebook) want more metal, even if the committees and the voters don't. Eventually one will break through, and that will start the flood.

Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus): They've nominated her already, and she does have a case for induction. Still, like Kraftwerk, it may be difficult to convince the actual voters of her merit--then again, with the recent influence of women here, maybe not any more.

Fela Kuti: Before he was nominated last year, I--probably, honestly, like most of us--never heard of him. He will probably eventually get in as an Early Influence or in the Musical Excellence category.

The Monkees: With Michael Nesmith's passing, it will give a bit of nostalgia for them--or perhaps a bit of guilt on those who failed to nominate him before (as in Donna Summer, except that she was nominated--many times--but was only inducted after she died.)

Willie Nelson: Arguably the country solo artist with the second-best case (after Johnny Cash, who, as we all know, is already in) for being inducted. Since rock and roll has definite roots in country music, it's easier to justify Nelson and his peers than the recent rap and hip-hop acts (which also belong) into a rock and roll hall of fame. All the more so since he has participated in a prior induction ceremony (that of the Allman Brothers Band).

Sha Na Na: Like Cocker, one of the largest acts at Woodstock that hasn't yet been inducted. Seems to have faded from memory now, which may make it tough for them to be inducted. (The last time I can remember hearing them mentioned--outside of this website--was Adam Sandler's first Hanukkah song.)

Carly Simon: With three female singer-songwriters having made it in the last ten years (Laura Nyro, Joan Baez, Carole King), Carly Simon's case--having arguably been more successful than any them--is strong. I think Showtime would love to have "You're So Vain" performed in the induction ceremony.

And a few off-the-wall additions:

Chubby Checker: When I first started following the R&R HoF, I was shocked (Shocked, I am!) that Checker wasn't already in. Sadly, despite his contributions, he probably will be a posthumous inductee.

Huey Lewis and the News: Of the "corporate rock" acts that the R&R HoF seems to be actively resisting nominating (Foreigner, REO Speedwagon, Styx, Loverboy, etc.), HL&tN's distinctive fifties sound stands out, and I think Showtime would love to have them on stage--if Lewis's recent inner ear problems don't prevent that. Despite what we want to believe, this is very much a popularity contest.

Bette Midler: With the added influence of females, and with the added publicity of her Kennedy Center Honors award, this may be her best shot at induction (or even nomination). Her having inducted Laura Nyro and Darlene Love doesn't hurt, either.

Ted Nugent: Another probable posthumous induction. His music has merit, but the various committees will not want to subject the (mostly liberal) audience to one of his speeches.

Sugar Hill Gang: If any act could be justified on the basis of influence by one song, and only one song, this has to be it. There are, by my count, seven rap/hip-hop acts in the Hall, why hasn't the Hall even considered the group widely credited with starting the genre (or launching the first successful example)?

Three Dog Night: Should be in if only on longevity. And "Joy To the World" would make a great show-concluding All-Star jam.

Warren Zevon: A critical favorite, though apparently not enough of one to get him even nominated.

Posted by Joe S. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 22:41pm


Allow me to add one more to my above post (in the first, non-off-the-wall division):

The Spinners: Possibly the last great act of the Motown era not in. Their biggest impediment is probably that so few of their peers that are inducted (the Four Tops, the Temptations, the Miracles, etc.) are still around to vote them in.

Posted by Joe S. on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 22:51pm


Richie, here are my thoughts on your picks.

The B - 52's: Their music is fine & they have some bangers in their discography, but Duran Duran might be one of the acts for a possible nomination by next year so I don't see the Bees' consideration for induction.

Pat Benatar: With Tina Turner inducted, I think 2022 is finally Pat's year for induction & I could see her being nominated a 2nd time & subsequently inducted following her last year's outrageous snub.

Mary J. Blige: She's a worthy candidate & her music had stood the test of time but I can't fathom on her being inducted before Diana Ross so she might wait a few more years.

Kate Bush: Bush has more popularity in the UK than in America & that's pretty much why she's been nominated twice unsuccessfully & with that said I don't see her being nominated again unfortunately.

Chaka Khan: I like her music & she had some good songs I can jam to but she's been nominated around 5 or more times as both a solo artist & member of Rufus so I don't see her being nominated again as well. The only way to get her inducted is through AME & that happened with LL Cool J.

The Commodores: Worthy consideration but it might not happen by next year since the Hall is having a hard time with older R&B acts for possible induction.

Eminem: Yeah I can see him straight up inducted & he'll be a 10th rapper doing so.

Eurythmics: They were only nominated twice & haven't been on the ballot since. They have everything needed for induction but I doubt I'll happen next year if Duran Duran gets a FYN.

Iron Maiden: They have my vote but let's give Judas Priest one more shot for nomination before we focus on Maiden.

The Monkees: I could see them being inducted under different categories instead of "Performer" mostly because the Hall is basically done with 60's acts for inclusion. I get with Mike Nesmith's passing that it pushed a little further for consideration but I don't think it's a guarantee unfortunately.

New York Dolls: They will get inducted at some point mostly because the ceremony is moving to LA instead of NYC but I could be wrong so will see about it.

RATM - I mean it could finally happen when they might be inducted following their possible 4th nomination. Fellow 90's acts including Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails & Foo Fighters are in so it might be Rage's time.

Sade: Not even happening ever, their music is fine but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Sonic Youth: SY were a big influence in indie music & their albums are considered as cultural touchstones in underground music. With that said, they might be inducted at some point but not next year.

Soundgarden: They were a big deal in grunge before Nirvana & Pearl Jam in which they were inducted before Soundgarden had. I don't see them being nominated alongside RATM & it's going to split the overall voting if they do so.

Dionne Warwick: As I said the 60's are done & I don't see her being nominated again. Her music is good but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Overall your predictions are not bad but I don't think it's fully guarantee.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 23:33pm


The B - 52's: 6/10
Pat Benatar: 6/10
Mary J. Blige: 9/10
Kate Bush: 7/10
Chaka Khan: 7/10
The Commodores: 8/10
Eminem: 10/10
Eurythmics: 7/10
Iron Maiden: 8/10
The Monkees: 8/10
New York Dolls: 7/10
Rage Against the Machine: 8/10
Sade: 5/10
Sonic Youth: 8/10
Soundgarden: 8/10
Dionne Warwick: 5/10

By Richie's predictions, here's what the 2022 class would look like

Performers:
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Eminem
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Sonic Youth

If 7:
Iron Maiden

Early Influence:
Big Mama Thornton
Fela Kuti
Sparks

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Nas
King Crimson

Ahmet Ertugun Award:
Brian Eno

Posted by Ronald Jenkins on Thursday, 12/16/2021 @ 23:50pm


RG and Plebeian,

My predictions for the 2022 nominees are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Kate Bush
Chaka Khan
The Commodores
Eminem
Eurythmics
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Sade
Sonic Youth
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick

Now, If this happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 10:35am


Richie,

Out of your picks:

Rage Against The Machine (via NWA style)
Pat Benatar (Runner-up and has support)
Eminem (Easy pick)
The Monkees (fan vote winner)
New York Dolls (the influential pick)
Sonic Youth (just need a sixth pick and have a clear lane to themselves)

Dionne Warwick maybe maybe not
Sade I don't know why you picked her (seriously?)
Soundgarden I feel will split some heavy metal votes with Maiden
Iron Maiden see above
The B-52's feel like Devo
Eurythmics I could see it, but will split votes with The B-52's
The Commodores are too R/B
Chaka Khan is just gonna get backdoored
I don't see Kate Bush or Mary J. Blige returning

If there is one thing I learned from the previous two classes is that:

-The Hall chooses a 3-timer or more pick
-Rap pick almost always gets in
-Pure R&B acts that don't have much crossover to mainstream tend to do really bad in voting
-Heavy Metal just won't budge
-One of the inductees scored in the top 5 in the fan vote, but did not get in previously (Soundgarden, Judas Priest, Pat Benatar, Fela Kuti, Dave Matthews Band)
-Azoff pick, but only works for one artist! Exception being Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles (The Go-Go's, Stevie Nicks, The Doobie Brothers, etc.)

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 11:23am


Plebeian,

I think you're on point on Richie's predictions expect I don't see The Monkees being considered for an nomination/induction. Don't get me wrong they're really important in popular music & Mike Nesmith's passing pretty much pushed it little further but I don't think it's a guarantee unfortunately especially now the Hall is moving on with the 80's & 90's, heck in the few years RRHOF is going to induct the 00's as well. I will agree with you on Soundgarden & Maiden for splitting votes especially if they go against RATM next year. Dionne Warwick has the same problem as the Monkees. As for the rest, it's a free-for-all.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 15:58pm


Again I ask, when was the last class with no Azzoff acts? I never got the answer. It had to be in the early 2010's or maybe in the 2000's.

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 18:05pm


Alright, here's my turn.

Returning Nominees:
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Kate Bush
Jane's Addiction (Eric Avery, Chris Chaney, Perry Farrell, Dave Navarro, Stephen Perkins)
Judas Priest (Les Brinks, K.K Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, Scott Travis)
New York Dolls (David Johansen, Arthur Kane, Billy Murcia, Jerry Nolan, Sylvain Sylvain, Johnny Thunders)
Rage Against the Machine (Tim Commerford, Zack del la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk)
Sting
Thin Lizzy (Eric Bell, Brian Downey, Scott Gorham, Phil Lynott, Brian Robertson)

New Nominees:
The B -52's (Kate Pierson, Fred Schneider, Keith Strickland, Cindy Wilson, Ricky Wilson)
Beck
Eminem
Eric B & Rakim
Joy Division/New Order (Tom Chapman, Paul Cunningham, Ian Curtis, Gillian Gilbert, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Bernard Sumner)
George Michael
Diana Ross

Inductees:
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
BIg Mama Thornton
Sparks (Ron Mael, Russell Mael)

Award for Musical Excellence:
Rory Gallagher
Chaka Khan
Kool & The Gang (Robert Bell, Ronald Bell, George Brown, Charles Smith, James "J.T" Taylor, Dennis Thomas, Curtis Williams)

Non - Performer Award:
Don Cornelius

Posted by Jake Epstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 20:11pm


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Jordan Einstein and others,

In the past two induction classes (2020 and 2021), 2 70's acts, 2 80's acts and 2 90's acts went in for a total of 6 Performer inductees, for 2020, The Doobie Brothers and T. Rex for the 70's, Depeche Mode and Whitney Houston for the 80's and Nine Inch Nails and The Notorious B.I.G. for the 90's and for 2021, Carole King and Todd Rundgren for the 70's, The Go-Go's and Tina Turner for the 80's and Foo Fighters and Jay-Z for the 90's. Now, If that pattern continues this year for 2022, Which 2 70's acts, Which 2 80's acts and Which 2 90's acts do you see making up the 6 Performer inductees?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 21:37pm


Richie,

The formula might break this year due to the fact Eminem is more 2000s than 90s. Regardless, here's who I think:

70s: Diana Ross and New York Dolls
80s: Pat Benatar and Duran
90s: Rage Against The Machine
00s: Eminem

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:08pm


*Duran Duran

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:09pm


Richie,

Like Plebeian said, the decades are a moving target, so it won't necessarily be 2 70s, 2 80s, 2 90s. That said, my prediction is:

60s/70s: Dionne Warwick
80s: Pat Benatar, Duran Duran
90s: Smashing Pumpkins, Mariah Carey
00s: Eminem

Posted by RG on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 22:55pm


Richie,

70's: Diana Ross & New York Dolls
80's: Judas Priest & Duran Duran
90's: Rage Against the Machine
00's: Eminem

Oh don't forget everyone that 60's are done with consideration for nominations, so we will be seeing more 80's & 90's acts inducted.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/17/2021 @ 23:13pm


The latest episode of Who Cares? was about remaining Classic Rock acts for the Hall. Who of these do you guys think has the best chance of getting in? (Only including acts discussed at length)

The Guess Who
Jethro Tull
Joe Cocker
Warren Zevon
Grand Funk Railroad
J. Geils Band
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Supertramp
Thin Lizzy
America
REO Speedwagon
Blue Oyster Cult
Scorpions
Styx
Bad Company
Judas Priest
Kansas
Pat Benatar
Boston
Foreigner
Eddie Money
George Thorogood
Bryan Adams
INXS
Billy Squire
Motley Crue
The Black Crows
Toto

Also, does anyone contest the "Classic Rock" label for any of these?

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 00:31am


Jordan Einstein,

Replace Priest for Pat and we are pretty much on the same page. Eminem will be our truly first successful 2000s act if he gets inducted. Also I agree with you on Smashing Pumpkins. We need them on a test drive to see if they do well enough on the ballot.

Another thing I have and this is me being theoretical, is that Rage feels like a lock next year due to many factors.

A) Grohl got his favor and induction, now it's Tom's turn
B) 30th anniversary for the debut album
C) A planned reunion coming up
D) 2022 ceremony is in L.A. and hometown advantage might help them. Then again it did not work for DEVO.

Thoughts?

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 01:04am


Since Norman Thrasher was revealed to have died shortly after I posted the full list, I'll only update the part he was in, 2012:

2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 01:33am


Jordan,
You say that the 60s are done. I disagree. I think the 60s are weak but NOT done. but weak. The 60s may be represented with one slot. I predict Dionne Warwick. Other possibilities are the Monkees and Blood,Sweat & Tears. and the Guess Who. I say the Monkees due to the very recent passing of Mike Nesmith, The rest will be 70's 80s and 90s. Skipping to the 80s. Duran Duran have a terrific shot. If Duran Duran are nominated I think they will be inducted. I know their hits Well. What are your thoughts?

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 04:20am


Should be there.

1. Big Mama Thornton
2. Gram Persons/Emylou Harris
3. Joe Cocker
4. Johnny Winter
5. John Mayall
6. Chuck Willis
7. Tom Jones
8. Iron Maiden
9. Judas Priest
10 Cliff Richard & The Shadows
11. Willie Nelson
12. Patsy Cline
13. The Carter Family
14. The Jordonaires
15. Rory Gallagher
16. Melissa Etheridge
17. Pat Banatar
18. Colonel Parker
19. The Guess Who
20. Ed Sullivan
21. Townes Van Zandt
22. Steve Earle
23. Waylon Jennings
24. Merle Haggard
25. Jethro Tull
26. ELP
27, King Crimson
28. Wings
29. Boston
30. Culture Club
31. Nicky Hopkins
32. Jim Gordon/Jim Keltner
33. Jaco Pastorius
34. Buddy Miles
35. John McLaughlin
36. Mike Oldfield
37. Canned Heat
38 Ten Years After
39. Quickssilver Messanger Service
40. Country Joe & The Fish
41. Richie Havens
42. Kate Bush
43. Marianne Faithfull
44. Alpha Blondy
45. Johnny Clegg
46. Melanie Safka
47. Johnny Halliday
48. Serge Gainsbourg
49. Ted Nugent
50. Ali Faka Touré
51. Vicente Fernandez
51. John Prine
52. Jose Feliciano
53. Gloria Estefan
54. Jan & Dean
55. Nico
56. The Monkees
56. Gran Funk Railroad
57. Dream Theatre
58. Dave Mathews Band
59. Loggins & Messina
60. Garth Brooks
61, Shania Twain
62, Dionne Warwick
63. Wilco
64. Ronnie James Dio
65. Andy Gibb
66. Foreigner
67. The New York Dolls
68. Boomtown Rats/Bob Geldof
69. Thin Lazy
70. Uriah Heep
71. Mott The Hoople
72. The Chieftains
73. The Neville Brothers
74. Clifton Chenier
75. Flaco Jimenez
76. Los Lobos
77. Joe Tex
78. Frank Sinatra
79. Neil Sadaka
80. Paul Anka
81. Conway Twitty
82. Warren Zevon
83. Jim Croce
84. Rammsteen
85. Barry White
86. Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
87. Willie Nile
88. Yoko Ono
89. Manfred Mann
90 Dave Mason
91. Eurytmycks
92. Badfinger
93. Status Quo
94. Vanilla Fudge
95. Iron Buterfly
96. Dr. Hook & The Medecine Show
97. Sonny & Cher
98. It's a Beautiful Day
99. Jeff Beck Group
100. Marvis Staples
101. Celia Cruz
102. John Denver

Posted by Denis on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 09:35am


Who do you think would win the online fan vote if they're nominated this year for 2022?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 11:41am


Motley Crue since they've been getting the most at kiosk. A fan vote win seems inevitable for them if they get nominated.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 11:53am


Follower,

Here's how I would categorize that WCATRH? Classic Rock list (haven't listened to the episode yet):

Will get in relatively soon:
Jethro Tull
Warren Zevon
Thin Lizzy
Bad Company
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
Boston

Probably gets in, might take a while:
The Guess Who
Joe Cocker
Bryan Adams
INXS
Motley Crue
J. Geils Band (only because the nom com seems to like them)

Probably never getting in:
Grand Funk Railroad
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Supertramp
America
REO Speedwagon
Blue Oyster Cult
Scorpions
Styx
Kansas
Foreigner
Eddie Money
George Thorogood
Billy Squire
The Black Crows
Toto

Posted by RG on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 12:54pm


That's The Black Crowes.

Posted by joker on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 13:16pm


RG,

besides Jethro Tull, Warren Zevon, Thin Lizzy, Bad Company, Judas Priest, Pat Benatar, Boston, Dionne Warwick, Duran Duran, Smashing Pumpkins, Mariah Carey and Eminem, Which other acts do you think will get in relatively soon?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 14:58pm


Plebeian,

I think metal is way more unrepresented by the Hall so that's pretty much why I put JP on the 80's instead of Benatar. As for the Pumpkins, i would say that they might get an FYN by 2023. For RATM, i think the Hall is trying to get them on the same lane as N.W.A by nominating them 3 times & letting them be inducted following their 4th nod. I think the main reason why Devo didn't get inducted for a 2nd time is mostly they were up against the Go Go's in which they have the most overall votes all thanks to their documentary.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 15:44pm


Follower,

I don't expect all of the classic rock bands/artists being considered for induction as most of them on the list are nowhere near significantly important & influential as most of the past inductees. Also i wouldn't labeled all of them "classic rock".

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 15:50pm


Big Mama Thornton
Chaka Khan
Cher
Daft Punk
Dr. Dre
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
Madness
Mariah Carey
MC5
Soundgarden
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy

Repeats:
Chaka Khan
Judas Priest
MC5
Soundgarden
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy

New:
Big Mama Thornton
Cher
Daft Punk
Dr. Dre
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Mariah Carey

Left Field pick:
Madness

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 20:50pm


dmg,

Out of your predictions for the 2022 nominees (Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, Cher, Daft Punk, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Madness, The Marvelettes, MC5, Soundgarden, The Spinners, Thin Lizzy and Big Mama Thornton). Which ones do you see being inducted?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 22:43pm


I disagree about the scorpions never getting in. The only thing that is a knock against them is that they're German, like Kraftwerk before them. Finally, as usual. I'm the last one to find the new board. More coming soon

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 12/18/2021 @ 23:28pm


Richie, Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 19, 2021- There are only 4 more work days left in this year. There are only 12 days left in 2021. In approximately 33 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately less than 46 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Rush and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. See Rush.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming.

Please let me think about the other 9.

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/19/2021 @ 11:28am


Enig,
How have you been lately? I was looking at your list above. I like it generally speaking. You have several predictions of mine. I will mention Jethro Tull first. I surely am predicting them. I guess we can call them second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. I am just not sure who would induct them. It is about time Tull are nominated. They were a major Rock band of the 70s. I totally agree with Tull. I would say it makes sense Rush, Yes and the Moody Blues were all inducted first. Another strong agreement I have is Carly Simon. You're So Vain' is one of the greatest hits of all; time. Other notable songs of hers are Haven't Got Time for the Pain, Nobody Does it Better, Jesse and Coming Around Again. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next for singer/Songwriter. Also a key agreement is Dionne Warwick. A re nomination is definitely deserved. There is No doubt about it.
Duran Duran is a pick I've been predicting for a few years. A terrific choice for the 80s. They would have competed with the Go-Gos this year. That's why they waited I'd say. I agree with a few others. Now my list also includes Emerson, Lake & Palmer. They were a major act of the 70s too. And 2 members are already dead. They have several notable albums. BUT I don't think they'll be Inducted right away. The Hall would go with Jethro Tull. There would not be 2 huge prog acts at the same time. That does Not tend to happen. I notice you have not predicted Eminem yet. You said you have another 9 coming., I am NOT a fan of Eminem at all. I don't even think I know a single tune. With all my diversity I never bothered to find out. I was already 34 when he was on the rise. I predicted him anyway. Due to his huge popularity. I know some Public Enemy, Biggie and Ice T. But I know zero tunes by Eminem. You may want to throw Eminem in unless your choices here are a wish list. Just a thought.
Other picks of mine are Joy Division/New Order, Dave Matthews Band, and Diana Ross. I made my list rather diverse. I recall you have predicted Dave Matthews Band before. That fan base can score them big. Diana Ross as a solo act is terrific choice. Huge success with her solo career. She's been huge from the 60s to Now. She had huge hits 1973-1983. That's it for now. What are your thoughts?
What do you think? .

Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 04:33am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

AlexVoltaire made his predictions for the 2022 nominees this morning and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Chaka Khan
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
Alanis Morissette
New York Dolls
OutKast
Rage Against The Machine
Sade
Soundgarden

Now, If Alex's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 10:40am


Richie,

Just saw his list as well, here are my thoughts.

This is a very realistic list, I won't argue with the inclusion of any artists on here.

Here's how I get to what the class would be. Sade, New York Dolls, and Commodores wouldn't have a shot. Iron Maiden falls victim to the metal curse. Mary J Blige and Chaka Khan get lost in the shuffle, though Chaka Khan will certainly get in via Musical Excellence next year no matter what. OutKast (very unfortunately) gets overshadowed by Eminem. One of Rage and Soundgarden won't get in, let's say Rage. B-52's and Alanis just miss the cut.

The class is:
Pat Benatar
Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
Soundgarden (possible sub for Alanis)

Posted by RG on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 11:01am


Redoing predictions again as I feel I have given them more thought.

Husker Du (The nonfactor Bad Brains one)
Duran Duran (Obvious New Wave pick)
Pat Benatar (Strong on fan ballot and voting committee)
Soundgarden (Split the votes with Iron Maiden)
Rage Against The Machine (N.W.A. Style)
Iron Maiden (See Soundgarden)
Fiona Apple (Cool to see her, but the nom is the prize)
Eminem (Sailing Away!)
Sparks (Electronic pick)
New York Dolls (Give them another shot and if they don't show up on this ballot I will go with Cher reluctantly)
Diana Ross (Tina + Whitney makes things easier for her)
The B-52's (Kind of have a reputation like Devo)
Iron Maiden (I wish, but cursed because of bias in Heavy Metal)
Chaka Khan (Will get in backdoored)
The Monkees (Fan Vote winner)
Wild Card: Townes Van Zandt (The WTF pick and hey it could happen!)

The Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Rage Against The Machine
Eminem
Diana Ross
The Monkees (JE, I know you said they are done with the sixties, but I have a huge hunch that The Monkees will be the last LAST official big sixties artist to be inducted. Would make a great closing book on the great musical decade)

Potential spoiler: Cher/New York Dolls

Jordan Einstein, RG, Richie, Steve Z, Paul in KY, Michael W. etc.

Your thoughts?

Also I will get my casualty of snubs finished, I totally forgot about it.

K-Dawg,

Hope you had time to look over my list :)

Posted by Plebeian on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 12:25pm


Shoot, put Iron Maiden twice, replace with Cher.

Posted by Plebeian on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 12:33pm


Plebian

Good list. I do wish I knew exactly how many votes are voted. Does the addition of `10 more votes for an artist a big thing or just a drop in the bucket.

OutKast has got to get in sometime! They are my biggest snub now, along with Judas Priest and Dionne.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 13:46pm


Writing too fast. Should be: Is the addition of 10 more votes for an artist a big thing or just a drop in the bucket?

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 14:55pm


Paul,

Agreed on OutKast, they're my biggest snub atm. I'm not hopeful for this year because of the Eminem of it all, but I'm banking on 2023 being their year, cause come on, how long can you really wait with these guys?

Posted by RG on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 19:57pm


Plebeian, your predictions are cool. Here's who i think should be inducted under your predictions. .

Performers:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross

The Monkees & Sparks should be inducted under Musical Excellence & Early Influence respectively.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 12/20/2021 @ 21:37pm


Plebian,
I also think your list is Cool. I am just Not sure about Cher. That's theonly shaky one. There is plenty of other pop artists to be nominated first. I do see your point about the Monkees following recent passing of Michael Nesmith. What I mean is I see your point about them as last official big 60s artist. I mean this is for 2022. The 60s run dry at some point. I predicted Steppenwolf and Blood, Sweat & Tears a few times. The Monkees have a far better chance. I would not mind the Monkees on the ballot at all. I have fond memories of the show in reruns 1970-1973. This was obviously after the show was done. I used to run to the TV 50 years ago to watch the Monkees. Great memories. The Monkees is a good sendoff for 60s music.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 04:25am


Alex Voltaire's list seems fairly realistic. It has a good mix of previously nominated artists and newcomers and fits the Hall's focus on diversity. If those were the nominees, I'd guess the inductees would be:

Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
OutKast
Soundgarden

Almost the same as RG's predictions, but I have Outkast instead of Pat Benatar. This would be the first time that two rap artists were inducted as performers in the same year. Pat and the B-52's would be the next closest vote getters I think, and Alanis would have a shot too.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:41am


Please tell I'm not the only one that is puzzled by these Cher predictions. I understand her credentials and success, but will voters really rally for her? I'm gobsmacked about the thought of it. Anyone getting similar feelings?

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:57am


Plebeian,

I like your list but I think it works better as a wish list than a prediction list. There's no chance that Husker Du, Sparks, and Townes Van Zandt all appear for the first time on the same ballot. They're pretty much long shots to appear at all, let alone at the same time. It's fun to dream though.

I do like Fiona Apple as a dark horse though. She's FYE and not getting much mention, but her last album was phenomenal and she's gotten quite a bit of attention lately, so maybe.

The rest of the list seems pretty possible. Like everyone else here, I've been waiting for a Duran Duran nomination for some time now. The B-52's seem overdue as well to me.

I'll think about my predictions and probably post them some time after Christmas.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:01am


About the 2022 Nomination Predictions, Plebeian wrote:
Please tell I'm not the only one that is puzzled by these Cher predictions. I understand her credentials and success, but will voters really rally for her? I'm gobsmacked about the thought of it. Anyone getting similar feelings?
Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 09:57am

Cher was in Tina Turner's 2021 Rock Hall video bio/package at the ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:46am


A bold and hugely successful female artist who has been successful for over a half century should already be in the Rock Hall. Looking at your countdown of 12 wishlist artists for the Rock Hall, I'm not surprised that you would be puzzled by Cher.

Posted by Jd Hathaway on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 10:56am


K make sense now. Also I'm not a blind rock purist like my list says I am. I just like what I like.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 11:24am


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
The Sugarhill Gang
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
King Crimson
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 15:32pm


EDIT

Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
The Sugarhill Gang
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:43pm


EDIT AGAIN (SORRY)

Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
Chic
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
Diana Ross
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:46pm


My other predictions for 2022.

Possible Nominees:
The B - 52's: Devo has been nominated twice, so maybe give The Bees a shot.

Pat Benatar: Very likely would be inducted following Tina Turner & Carole King so let's give her another shot.

Duran Duran: Most likely would be a FYN inductee.

Eminem: 100% lock for FYE induction.

Judas Priest: Let's give them one more shot & see how the overall voting turns out, it's likely they'll be inducted after their 3rd nomination.

Chaka Khan: Likely would be inducted through AME.

Lenny Kravitz: Maybe he won't be a FYN inductee but he'll be inducted at some point.

Motorhead: Very deserving but can't be inducted at the same time as JP likely due to splitting the votes.

OutKast: Maybe give them a first nomination & if they didn't get inducted then it's going to be at some point for them.

Diana Ross: Tina Turner & Carole King got inducted for a second time so it's likely Diana's turn.

Rage Against the Machine: It's possible they will be returning since the ceremony is coming back in LA.

Slade: I thought i pick Slade because T. Rex got inducted in 2020 & alongside them had influenced everyone from Punk to Hair Metal.

Smashing Pumpkins: Well Foo Fighters got inducted so maybe it's their time & they might be inducted at some point but most not likely in 2022.

Sparks: Their documentary may have push their chances on earning induction but it's most likely would be through Early Influence since Kraftwerk got inducted under that category.

Thin Lizzy: They might be inducted at some point & they were only nominated once so maybe they might be inducted under "Early Influence".

War: Possibly my final pick because why not. They have everything needed for induction but i doubt it's their year. Nominate them for a 4th time & let's see how the voting turned out.

Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Eminem
Judas Priest
RATM
Diana Ross
Slade (if 7)

Early Influence:
Sparks
John Coltrane

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
The Monkees

What does everyone think about mine?

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:47pm


Richie,
I saw Alex Voltaire's list this morning. I agree This is a very realistic list, I won't argue with the inclusion of any artists on here. I have predicted a whole lot of these on my current list. I did Not include the Monkees. But I plan on changing that in the near future due to the passing of Michael Nesmith. I will also consider Chaka Khan. But truthfully in 2022 I do think she will get in via Music Excellence. I also think Iron Maiden will get the metal curse. OutKast gets overshadowed by Eminem. I think Rage Against the Machine will miss the cut.
I don't normally do this but the class would be:
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Monkees
Soundgarden

I am still working on the Early Influence predictions.
I think I mentioned some
Bing Crosby, Charlie Parker and also
Peggy Lee are some I'm considering.
Peggy Lee dates back to about 1958, She can certainly be put in Early Influence
This is off the topic of the Alex Voltaire list but I've been thinking of this category in the last few days. I took the opportunity to write about it.
Anyway above that is a class for 2022 based on Alex Voltaire

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 16:54pm


Alex pointed out that, in addition to the nondescript bands with a well-regarded member (ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music, T. Rex, Foo Fighters) there has also been a woman who has waited for a long time to get in for every class since 2017 (Joan Baez, Nina SImmone, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, both Carole King and Tina Turner).

Be sure to keep both of them as factors in your own predictions!

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:17pm


Alex pointed out that, in addition to the nondescript bands with a well-regarded member (ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music, T. Rex, Foo Fighters) there has also been a woman who has waited for a long time to get in for every class since 2017 (Joan Baez, Nina SImmone, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, both Carole King and Tina Turner).

Be sure to keep both of them as factors in your own predictions!

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:17pm


Jordan Einstein,

Good picks! Lenny Kravitz is a long shot though. For some reason we seem to be at the same wave length. Feels like only you and me see Rage as potential spoiler and have faith in them getting in on the 4th try. OutKast could get shut out like Radiohead.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 17:56pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Pat Benatar
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Coolio
Huey Lewis and the News
The B-52's
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Dio
Lou Rawls
Diana Ross
Peter, Paul, and Mary
The Diamonds
Boston
Pantera
Slayer
Anthrax
Alice in Chains

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chic
Chubby Checker
The Big Bopper
Link Wray and His Wray Men
Pete Best
The Sugarhill Gang
Peter Green
Bob Welch

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Tommy Johnson
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Ella Fitzgerald
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
Scott Joplin



SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Steve Miller Band
The Jeff Beck Group
Crazy Horse
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
Wings
The Wailers

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 18:42pm


NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 12/21/2021 @ 18:43pm


Follower,

That's why my predictions have consistently included the likes of Bad Company and Foreigner in my picks, in addition to Carly Simon...

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 01:59am


K-Dawg,
I just reviewed Alex Voltaire's again. I was looking for a band with a Well regarded member. I think that would be Soundgarden! Right? Is that correct. Soundgarden had Cornell. Alex has the Women well covered
Alex has Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Chaka Khan
Cher
Alanis M
Sade
All those fine women are on his current list. But let me know about the regarded Member. Hear from ya Please

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 06:50am


I am redoing predictions because I have thought them out more and I take into account recent events.

PERFORMERS
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Chaka Khan
The Monkees
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon
This now reflects the passing of Mike Nesmith. Hey the Monkees had so many hits. Also I have a kind of WTF pick with Warren Zevon and he has been known as a snub a long time. They tried Fela Kuti last year. This year I say they move away from Africa and give Warren Z a chance. He was American

Ohh right.
EARLY INFLUENCE
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

MUSIC EXCELLENCE

Chaka Khan
Judas Priest
Sugarhill Gang

What does everyone think of this new list I have made? Respond when you can!

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 09:10am


Cool predictions Ben, although i wouldn't put Judas Priest under Musical Excellence mostly because they were legitimate figures in Metal (even though the genre had been ignored throughout), maybe The Monkees should be inducted under that category because they were seen as a parody rather than a serious act & let's give Priest one more shot for earning induction as a performer. I likely anticipated that Priest would be inducted after their possible 3rd nomination (I mean that worked for most artists in the past). As for your the rest of your predictions in the performers, the only guarantee is that Eminem would be a FYE inductee. The others that might earned induction in 2022 from your predictions would be Diana Ross, Pat Benatar, RATM, Duran Duran & Judas Priest (in place of the Monkees). However, some of your picks might not be considered anytime soon.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 10:54am


Once again I'm posting the Discord server link for those who care: https://discord.gg/38aKMHeTq8

Posted by Raichu on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:07am


Jordan,
Nice response. The reason I went with Judas Priest as Music Excellence is it was done for Randy Rhoads this year. It gives the Heavy metal fans something again but they sadly get skipped over as Performer due to the metal curse. I definitely like some heavy metal. Priest are one of the best but they got shafted twice. If they are inducted as Music Excellence it can pave the way for Metal bands as performer like Iron Maiden, Scorpions as well as Quiet Riot maybe. But anyway Priest as Music Excellence spares them another snub. I agree that ones like Bryan Adams may not be considered that soon. But Bryan A would just be a nominee a few times. NOT an inductee

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:41am


I'd like to nominate Ian Hunter to the Hall of Fame. I truly feel he deserves it. The last time I was there, I saw his white piano on display. He is truly a great writer and also a great singer with his unique voice. He is 80 + years old. Please don't wait till he's passed away to bring him aboard. I'm sure it would mean a great deal to Ian.

Posted by Jeff Boyer on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 11:57am


Ben,

I would consider Chris Cornell a well-regarded figure. Yes, Soundgarden is also in my predictions.

Couple of points to throw towards Jordan..this is an opinion and not a challenge of any sort, so please do not take it as such.

First, the Monkees started as a TV comedy, but they evolved into a real band. In the late 60s, they were considered as popular as the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, the Who and others. It was the first openly contrived throw a group of musicians together to create a band situation, and it is the precursor to things like American Idol and the Voice. These 4 gentlemen ARE real musicians, and the influence they have, I feel, is worthy of them receiving a full induction, not a side nom.

Secondly, the RRHOF has missed the ball on metal time and again. However, Priest and Iron Maiden are contemporaries. Just because someone predicts Maiden to go in doesn't mean Priest has been left in the cold. They are like the Cure and Depeche Mode; they pioneered the metal sound in the late 70s to early 80s. Even if there was a correct order to induct them in, the Hall of Fame still throws the shiniest new toy in over and over and eventually gets to its influence. There has never been rhyme or reason consistently. So, when Maiden gets predicted, please don't think we're ignoring Priest.

Women are going to play a large part in this year's noms, and although I'm not changing my picks at this time, Cher is a compelling thought. She doesn't have the criticism that she's already been nominated that Stevie Nicks and Tina Turner had (Sonny and Cher are NOT in the RRHOF, unless they're in a special cat). There is a real possibility, along with Dionne Warwick, Diana Ross, or Mariah Carey, that she could be another choice to boost the women vote. Pat Benatar and others are a little different, but I definitely predict 1/3 of whatever acts get inducted this year will be female

That's all for now, just some random musings ahead of the final countdown

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 12:59pm


Ben, i totally get what you're saying about Priest being inducted for AME but just because they were only shafted from entering the Hall twice as performers doesn't mean they won't likely be nominated again in the category. Let's take a look at Deep Purple & their long overdue induction: They have to wait 20+ years, they were snubbed twice & when they were nominated for a 3rd time, i thought that they might be snubbed once more & would likely be inducted under AME or Early Influence. But came in 2016 that DP were rightfully inducted as performers after all this time. The reason i mentioned DP mostly because it just goes to show that artists like Priest still have a chance to finally make the cut in the Performer Category. I mean if we're going down that road for AME, then Motorhead, Ronnie James Dio, Thin Lizzy & Steppenwolf would likely be alongside them. But yeah i get what you're saying but if Purple could be inducted as performers so can Priest.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 14:41pm


Jordan,
Yeah what you say makes sense. I actually am still working on the E Influence and Music Excellence. I am experimenting with it. But I'll keep Maiden as my metal pick. I was following the pattern of Randy Rhoades. I forgot about the long delay of DP.
I have another I am toying with. A guitarist of Prog Rock. That would be Robert Fripp.
There is some doubt that King Crimson will be inducted.
I think I will change the Music Excellence predictions.
This is totally an experiment for me. Prog is also ignored a bit
MUSIC EXCELLENCE

Chaka Khan
Robert Fripp
The Sugarhill Gang

I changed it. This is what's soo cool about this sight. Others bring up good excellent points. Respond again. I will give Priest other shots in 2023 and perhaps 2024 as PERFORMER. Hear from ya.soon

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 15:15pm


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Nick Bambach made his predictions for the 2022 nominees today and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Chaka Khan
Cher
De La Soul
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Diana Ross
Soundgarden
Thin Lizzy
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

Now, If Nick's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 12/22/2021 @ 16:23pm


Jordan,
What are your thoughts on my Improved Music Excellence picks?
I will say them again

MUSIC EXCELLENCE
Robert Fripp
Chaka Khan
The Sugarhill Gang

Robert Fripp is reknowned guitarist. He is most notable for King Crimson. This would throw something to Prog fans. That includes me. I am not like Enig but I dig my share of Prog rock. Robert Fripp has been around since the late 60s. Thats 50 years of music.
I have also chosen Chaka Khan and Sugarhill Gang. You didnt critique those choices. I think they both make sense. Chaka Khan has been nominated lots of times. It's time to solve her induction.
I threw in Sugarhill Gang. I dont think they have much chance as Performer. I'm continuing the trend of LL. It may happen.
Hear from Ya

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 04:30am


Ben, i would say that your improved picks are very good maybe have King Crimson as whole if you know what i mean. Actually i have my own picks for AME & Early (Musical) Influence that i would like to share as well.

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Ronnie James Dio
The Meters

Early (Musical) Influence:
Sparks
Big Mama Thornton
Fela Kuti

What do you think about my picks?

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 07:10am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Nick Bambach made his predictions for the 2022 nominees yesterday and his predictions are:

The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Chaka Khan
Cher
De La Soul
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
New York Dolls
Rage Against The Machine
Diana Ross
Soundgarden
Thin Lizzy
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

Now, If Nick's list happens to be the list, Who do you think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of that list?.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/23/2021 @ 13:17pm


Nickelback replaces The Smiths in the Top 10

https://futurerocklegends.com/Statistics/

THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON ELIGIBLE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST VOTES
ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

01. Devo
02. Jethro Tull
03. Eminem
04. Backstreet Boys
05. Blink-182
06. Mariah Carey
07. Duran Duran
08. Alice In Chains
09. Nickelback
10. Smashing Pumpkins

WHAT FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTERS
GOT RIGHT IN THE RECENT PAST

2021: Foo Fighters
2020: Whitney Houston * Depeche Mode * Nine Inch Nails
2019: Janet Jackson * Radiohead
2018: The Moody Blues * Bon Jovi
2017: Yes * Journey
2016: Chicago * Deep Purple
2015: Green Day
2014: Kiss * Nirvana
2013: Rush

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 00:07am


Ben E. King * Mary Wells * The Marvelettes * The Spinners * The Shangri-Las * Chubby Checker * Harry Belafonte * Diana Ross * Dionne Warwick * Willie Nelson * Judy Collins * Phil Collins * Steve Winwood * Joe Cocker * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Captain Beefheart * Barry White * The Kingston Trio * Peter, Paul & Mary * The Spencer Davis Group * Jan & Dean * The Monkees * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Kool & The Gang * The Commodores * Carly Simon * Foreigner * Joy Division / New Order * WHAM! / George Michael * Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine * INXS

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 01:27am


A major 3 for all!

MOTOWN

1. Ben E. King
2. The Spinners
3. The Marvelettes

FOLK

1. The Kingston Trio
2. Peter, Paul & Mary
3. Judy Collins

COUNTRY

1. Willie Nelson
2. Waylon Jennings
3. Merle Haggard

POP

1. Jan & Dean
2. The Monkees
3. Chubby Checker

PROG

1. Jethro Tull
2. King Crimson
3. Emerson, Lake & Palmer

JAZZ-ROCK-R&B

1. Blood, Sweat & Tears
2. Kool & The Gang
3. The Commodores

HEAVY METAL

1. Motorhead
2. Iron Maiden
3. Judas Priest

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 02:20am


Jordan.
Right I see your point about the whole band King Crimson. Again these special categories are new thing for mew. It's cool. It gives us extra stuff to talk about
I'll change it one more time. I was thinking of guitarists ignored

MUSIC EXCELLENCE:
Chaka Khan
King Crimson
The Meters

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

In a previous time Dionne Warwick would have been inducted as a Regular Performer. She is better suited in Early I for 2022
I forgot all about the Meters. They've nominated a lot of times. They are now one of my picks. This answers your question on what I think of your picks.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 04:18am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Assuming six Performer inductees per class and five more years from 2022 to 2027, Who do you guys see being the next 36 acts inducted into the Rock Hall from the Performer category to be in some order?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 10:52am


Richie: love your enthusiasm but you ask too many questions.

King Crimson should be nominated ASAP but they're a long shot at this point. Way more important to Prog Rock than Jethro Tull (who should also be in).

Alex Voltaire and Nick Bambach's predictions rock. If either of those two's lists became a reality, that would be really great. Eminem, Cher, B-52s, Soundgarden, Pat Benatar and Iron Maiden would likely get in.

Posted by Matt J on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 11:01am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Matt J, Follower, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

The latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast has just came out and Joe and Kristen made their predictions for the next five induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 15:53pm


2022: Eminem may wait, Pat's a lock, Duran Duran too, Mariah is possible depending on who else is nominated, B-52's would be a welcome surprise, Soundgarden may wait, I see Pixies or Jane's Addiction getting in instead

2023: Outkast would work for the 20th anniversary of "Speakerboxx/love Below". Dionne could get an early influence award instead, Joy Division and New Order should be separated with Joy Division going in first. Foreigner 's a lock for 2022 or 2023. I would love to see George Michael get inducted, Cher is pretty spot on if Diana Ross get's inducted in 2022.

2024: Very likely for Coldplay, The Fugees may get in first before Lauryn Hill solo, Smiths are likely, RATM may get in sooner, same with Eurythmics, Snoop Dogg is likely for either 2022 or 2023.

2025: Very Likey for Missy Elliot, Cyndi may get in sooner, it's likely for Beck, Jethro Tull may get in sooner than that, same with Devo. Roberta Flack may get an early influence award soon.

2026: At this rate, it's likey Judas Priest may get in at that time. I think Carly Simon may get in sooner, I think Kool and The Gang will get in first. It may depend on how many nominations Salt-N-Pepa get. I think Phil Collins will get in sooner than that and the same with Weezer.

Posted by Zack F on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 17:57pm


I think Linkin Park will get in in 2026. I also think Motley Crue could eventually get in that year or 2027.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 18:15pm


Alright, here's what i think should be inducted in the next 5 years.

Class of 2022:
Pat Benatar - Yep i think after Tina Turner got inducted that it's finally Pat's year for earning induction.

Duran Duran - Well DD were a trending theme on the internet for a few years now so i anticipated that they would get an FYE induction by next year.

Eminem - He's a only guarantee & a lock for induction (sorry Zack F. but you're totally off base on him)

Judas Priest - I can guarantee that Metal would finally shine & JP is definitely a perfect choice.

RATM - They receive their 4th nomination & they finally do get inducted since the ceremony is going to be held in LA.

Diana Ross - See "Pat Benatar" first above.

Class of 2023:
Missy Elliot - Probably would be the first female rapper to be inducted.

Iron Maiden - Well i was originally going to put Motorhead in but they may likely be inducted under AME if they did get two more shots but failed to be inducted as performers, so i choose Iron Maiden instead.

Joy Division/New Order - Well The Cure & Depeche Mode are inducted & JD/NO pretty much paved the way for fellow alternative bands including the two & it wouldn't be them if it weren't for JD/NO.

New York Dolls - Third time it's a charm for them, heck the ceremony may returned in NYC so they have a shot.

OutKast - Hmmm having two rap acts inducted in the same year, that happened this year with LL Cool J & Jay - Z so it could happened with Missy Elliott & OutKast.

The Smashing Pumpkins - Probably would be next after Foo Fighters & RATM.

Class of 2024:
Mary J. Blige - It may take a few nominations to get there but she would be inducted by that point.

Sean Combs - Won't be an FYE but certainly an FYN inductee.

Coldplay - With Radiohead in, Coldplay may have a chance to become an FYE inductee.

Devo - The ceremony may returned in Cleveland so Devo has a perfect chance to finally earn induction in place of Kraftwerk.

Slade - Maybe they might be the next British glam act to be inducted after T. Rex.

Soundgarden - I might think they would be inducted after being left out for a few years.

Class of 2025:
A Tribe Called Quest
Christina Aguilera
DMX
Lauryn Hill
Motley Crue
The Smiths

Class of 2026:
Alice in Chains
Mariah Carey
Phil Collins
De La Soul
Pixies
Britney Spears

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/24/2021 @ 20:16pm


A LOT to unpack with all those nomination potentials, but I'm seeing Christina and Britney getting in before or around the same time as Mariah? I don't think so. It took the nom com more than 35 years to put Whitney and Janet in, and those two are much more accepted for influence than Spears and Aguilera. Lauryn Hill, on the other hand, is hugely influential, and she has a shot either solo or with the Fugees. I think Alicia Keys has a shot at FYE in 2026 as well...

Posted by K Dawg on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 01:42am


Jordan.
Before I mention any other year. I want to go over 2022, I agree with ones for sure like Pat Benatar, Diana Ross and Eminem. I sort of agree with Duran Duran but you may have made a mistake. You say FYE for induction. As far as I know that's the abbrev for FIRST YEAR eligible. They would be First Year Nominated. First Year Eligible. Based on the usual abbrev FYE. DD would have been inducted around 2006 or 2007 after 25 years. SO unless FYE means something else that's the wrong label. At this point Fiona Apple and Eminem are FYE for next year. Artists that emerged around 1996. Please please clarify. After that I'll discuss rest of the years listed. Hear from please and Merry Christmas

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 03:49am


Jordan,
Also what are your thoughts on my picks for Early Influence.
I am used to pre Rock musicians. FOLLOWER thought my view was reverse a couple weeks ago. The reality is I'm not ready to pick Early influence for more modern artists. He thought I had a problem with artists before we were born. I want them to be artists before we were born. Charly Patton is perfect. I was shaky with Kraftwerk as early influence. Here is my Very short list.

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

I just want to stop to elaborate on Peggy Lee. Certainly before my time. I had my Dad in mind with this one. RIP my Dad. Peggy Lee I recall was rather huge in the 50s. Mostly Pre Rock. I think. The main tune I know is Fever. I haven't googled Peggy Lee. I know that Fever was a hit in 1958. I presume that she started quite a bit before that. I can use my Dad's music for ideas on Early Influence. My Dad loved the entire decade of the 1950s. This includes all of the early 1950s. My Dad talked about the hit Parade on the Radio.

I would not pick Sparks at this moment. I'm just adjusting to a modern time frame for EI. Just exactly what is the time frame for EI in the early 2020's? I am taking priority to the Pre Rock acts for this. Hear from ya.
What do you think about my picks?

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 05:16am


Ben,

Your picks on early influence are great & i get what you're saying about the Category itself. Also, my fault for making a mistake on Duran Duran, i meant to type in FYN not E. I didn't even know & wasn't even paying attention.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 14:25pm


I'm going to have to give Motley Crue serious consideration on my Final 2022 KING RRHOF Nomination List.
Motley Crue has received strong support on the kiosk every year. There are many music fans that want to see them nominated and inducted. Some astute FRL posters here have brought up good points about the Ceremony being held in Los Angeles. Motley Crue an LA band would probably help sell the venue out very quickly if inducted. With Iron Maiden and Judas Priest failing to be inducted, Motley Crue is 1 of the next legitimate metal bands to be nominated. Bon Jovi and Def Leppard have been inducted recently. Motley Crue would finish out that 80's trifecta. X is another LA band that springs to mind. I don't know if X will receive a nomination. Rage Against The Machine also would be another choice. I was going over some music songs of potential RRHOF nominees. Motley Crue scored very high. Girls, Girls, Girls, Kickstart My Heart, Looks That Kill, Shout At The Devil, Too Young To Fall In Love, Wild Side etc. They have influenced many later hard rock and metal bands and have sold over 100 million records. I could see the RRHOF doubling up with Iron Maiden and Motley Crue or Judas Priest and Motley Crue. It will be interesting how the RRHOF tackles this heavy metal backlog and Motley Crue in particular. Merry Christmas! KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 16:04pm


I'm going to list off acts/bands from Los Angeles that haven't been nominated/inducted into the Rock Hall yet and they are:

The Bangles
Beck
Black Flag
Captain Beefheart
The Carpenters
Jan & Dean
Jane's Addiction
Little Feat
Los Lobos
Megadeth
The Monkees
Motley Crue
No Doubt
The Offspring
Rage Against The Machine
The Runaways
Slayer
Snoop Dogg
Sparks
Steppenwolf
Three Dog Night
Tool
Toto
War
Weezer
"Weird Al" Yankovic

With the 2022 induction ceremony being in Los Angeles, Do you guys think that any of the bands/acts from LA could get nominated/inducted this year?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 16:18pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming.

Today is December 25, 2021- There are no more work days left for me during this year. There are only 6 days left in 2021. In approximately 27 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately 40 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they will get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared, See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in?


11. The B-52s:

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 17:53pm


Ben,

I am sorry that I had not responded to you sooner. I had been very busy with work until late Thursday afternoon and yesterday, I rested all day. I do agree that Duran Duran will receive their first nomination and induction-they will represent prog at the ceremony. I also think that it is quite likely that The Bangles will receive their first nomination, now that the Go-Gos have been inducted. Due to their huge popularity, Jethro Tull is the most likely early prog band to receive a nomination. The only problem that I foresee with their possible nomination is that the more critically beloved King Crimson may receive a nomination, instead. If Jethro Tull does finally receive a nomination, then I think that they may have to wait a year to get in. As you are well-aware, I have been a huge advocate for the inductions of both Sade and Carly Simon. I also think that Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo will return for a second nomination and this time- an induction. I think that The Monkees will finally receive their first nomination and a mostly posthumous induction. Dionne Warwick will return to the ballot once again and this time, she will join Tina Turner and Carole King as an inducted performer.

Therefore, these artists are the most likely performer inductees from my list:

The Bangles
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
Carly Simon
Sade
The Monkees
Dionne Warwick

Actually, I think that those 7 artists would definitely make a great class.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/25/2021 @ 18:27pm


Enig,
Hey there it's OK I've been busy with Work too. I guess a little less than you. I've been on here a bit. Hey NO worries. I knew you'd agree that Duran Duran will receive their first nomination and induction- Yes they will represent more modern prog at the ceremony. Let me be clear I've called DD New wave for 40 years. We also agree that it is quite likely that The Bangles will receive their first nomination, now that the Go-Gos have been inducted. I wonder who would induct the Bangles. Due to their huge popularity, Jethro Tull is the most likely early prog band to receive a nomination. You foresee a problem with their possible nomination due the more critically liked King Crimson. BUT in fact I think King Crimson will get Music Excellence. As for Jethro Tull yeah they have to wait for a second nomination. Tull was a very popular band in the 70s but Not as popular as Your MAIN trilogy of Prog. I think that's what you call it. All 3 of those are inducted.
I'm holding off on Sade but I am fully confident in Carly Simon.
Also I agree with Pat Benatar and the Monkees. The Monkees may get inducted in 2022. This way Mickey Dolenz is still alive

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 06:00am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Raichu, Matt J, Follower, dmg and others,

The latest episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast has just came out and Joe and Kristen made their predictions for the next five induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 11:15am


Richie,

Maybe replace Mariah Carey, The B - 52's & Soundgarden with Diana Ross, Judas Priest & RATM for 2022. As for 2023, replace Dionne Warwick, Foreigner, Cher & George Michael with Iron Maiden, Smashing Pumpkins, New York Dolls & Missy Elliott as it's going to be a mostly 60 - 80's driven class if it's like your prediction. For 2024, Switch The Smiths with Devo as the ceremony might be going back to Cleveland. Maybe replace RATM with Soundgarden as i stated for 2022, Eurythmics maybe they should wait for 2025. As for 2025, Jethro Tull would be inducted under Musical Excellence as the 70's would be closing it's doors maybe Robert Flack would be inducted under Early Influence (same could be said for Dionne Warwick). So my predictions for 2025 would be Sean Combs, The Smiths, Motley Crue, Lauryn Hill, A Tribe Called Quest & Beck. For 2026, i would be Pixies, Phil Collins, De La Soul, Britney Spears, Slayer & Sheryl Crow.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 14:29pm


My picks for 2022 are:

Duran Duran
Bily Idol

Posted by Fernando Belfiglio on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 15:34pm


Here's my dream version of what the class of 2022 ceremony would look like.

Inductees:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran (Warren Cuccurullo, Simon Le Bon, Nick Rhodes, Andy Taylor, John Taylor, Roger Taylor)
Eminem
Judas Priest (Les Brinks, KK Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, Scott Travis)
Rage Against the Machine (Tim Commerford, Zack Del la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk)
Diana Ross

Early Influence:
Sparks (Ron Mael, Russell Mael)
Big Mama Thornton
John Coltrane

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
King Crimson (Adrian Belew, Bill Bruford, Mel Collins, David Cross, Robert Fripp, Michael Giles, Greg Lake, Ian McDonald, Peter Sinfield, John Wetton)
Hubert Sumlin

Presenters:
Martina McBride
Brandon Flowers of The Killers
Elton John
Eddie Trunk
Mike Shinoda
Madonna
Martin Gore of Depeche Mode
Brittany Howard of Alabama Shakes
Jon Batiste
Stevie Wonder
Geddy Lee of Rush
Keith Richards

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 12/26/2021 @ 21:13pm


KING, Motley Crue are, unfortunately, Banned For Life from the Hall. I think they will get serious consideration after the last remaining member passes on.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 06:42am


The idea that Motley Crue are banned from the hall comes from bassist Nikki Sixx. If anyone affiliated with the hall said something, I'd be more inclined to believe it.

Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 14:21pm


Hey Guys,

May I ask you a couple of questions:

Which acts do you guys think would get in the first time that they are nominated?.

Which previously nominated acts do you guys think would get in the next time that they are nominated?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 12/27/2021 @ 21:51pm


Jordan,
Just so you know i have this rule that I never predict inductees until the official nominees. Now that the Special categories are more Vital I will say that My rule only applies to Performers. The Voters vote on those.
I can predict the Special categories with No problem. Those are Not voted on.
But I will say that your dream class of Performers is awesome. Just don't jump the gun myself. Then again its a wish list.
Your picks for Early I category are very good. Not too bad. Heyy I love John Coltrane. I may have even inspired you there. One of the greatest Jazz legends of all time.
I guess Sparks is like the Kraftwerk pick. I can see it. But I hold off cause I'm not ready to pick Post 1970 artists.
Your Big Mama Thornton pick is great. But I went with others.

Early Influence:
John Coltrane
Peggy Lee
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 05:47am


Follower, I have no idea whether or not they actually are. I used to love to say it to wind up The Dude.

Would think though: Would you really want Motley Crue in your Hall? The actual people?

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 06:35am


Paul in KY,
I haven't discussed anything with since my Coverage of Older rock hall classes. As far as Motley Crue. Shout at the Devil and Theater of Pain were rather good. Those were the breathroughs of their career. The hit Dr.Feelgood is really good too. But as far as the actual people, Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, etc, the Hall probably doesn't want M Crue in their Hall. The guys of Def Leppard and Judas Priest are considered much more respectable. Def Leppard is already inducted as we know. And I realize that Priest still stand a good chance. But NOT the Crue. A lot of other Metal bands will be inducted first

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 09:49am


Paul in KY,

Everyone is fair game if Percy Sledge is in. So yeah Motley Crue no problems or qualms with.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 13:38pm


Percy Sledge didn't kill anyone. Vince Neil did.

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 14:32pm


I have no problem with MC being considered for induction, but when you have Judas Priest, Motorhead, Thin Lizzy & Iron Maiden still waiting for the inside from outside for an honor, then the Crue have to wait a while for their turn & it's not looking too great unfortunately. I mean Guns N' Roses, Bon Jovi & Def Leppard were inducted before any of them but i digress.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 18:23pm


RG, Plebeian and Greg F,

Who do you see being the 2022 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/28/2021 @ 22:04pm


Jordan,
Exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm fine with Motley Crue being considered for induction. First of all Judas Priest, Motorhead, Thin Lizzy, I Maiden and also Queensryche are all respected more as people than M Crue. And also these are even more essential to the Heavy Metal scene. This means the Crue will be waiting their turn for a long while. GnR, Bon Jovi and Def Leppard were all inducted first because they are Hard Rock NOT Heavy Metal. All 3 of those had huge Top 10 hits. I personally think Now that Judas Priest would be first in line with Heavy Metal bands. As you pointed out they have already been nominated. This indicates that the Hall is trying to get a few heavy metal bands in. The Voting body isn't as traditional as it used to be. There is now Heavy Metal musicians and experts that are Voters now. Just a few of those Voters are Ozzy, James Hetfield and Eddie Trunk. That's everything I want to say about Heavy Metal in the Hall. 1970s and 80s metal is what the Hall would start with as a way of catching up. By the way I'm not a Heavy Metal expert. I own certain Old Heavy Metal albums. Any Metal I own is before 1992. As far as this scene goes. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 02:52am


The monkees. debbie Gibson tiffany nkotb these are my nomations

Posted by Jenni M Vansteenburgh on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 09:36am


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is December 29, 2021. There are only 2 days left in 2021. In approximately 21 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in approximately 36 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles.

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues).

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility."

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

Here are the other 10:


11. The B-52s

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

20. John Prine

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 11:22am


Today I would like to share my list of artists & bands that won't or shouldn't be considered for induction for RRHOF. I'll explain my reasons why.

Bad Company - A borderline act that has one member people cared about & I don't see any overall influence from them. Give Paul Rodgers a Musical Excellence Award.

Rainbow - I can't find anything remarkable about them other than Ritchie Blackmore being a founding member & Ronnie James Dio as a former frontman. Give RJD a induction for Musical Excellence as well. It took Deep Purple 20+ years & 3 nominations to get inducted & I seriously doubt Rainbow will ever receive nomination let alone inducted plus DP are game changers & had defined the Metal genre unlike Rainbow & also Whitesnake. With that said not all inducted members of DP should be inducted twice.

Styx - Yeah they have platinum albums but that doesn't matter, they haven't inspired anymore noteworthy.

Boston - They have this one huge album that anymore cared about & they released their albums sporadically after their second album.

Ted Nugent - I don't get why he should be considered for induction, he hasn't done anything remarkable throughout his career & he certainly didn't inspire anyone noteworthy.

Any hair metal bands except Motley Crue - MC should be the only hair metal band to be considered. The rest of the acts are not going to be nominated.

Meat Loaf - One huge album anyone cared about & he's nowhere on the same level as Elton John, David Bowie & Elvis Costello.

REO Speedwagon - Same exact reasons as Boston, Bad Company & Styx.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 12:46pm


Jordan Einstein,

Interesting thoughts, but on the one album wonder thing for Meat Loaf and Boston. How do you explain Sex Pistols, Carole King, N.W.A., The Go-Go's who are in the Hall? Not to knock you down, but could you elaborate a little more on that? The rest I understand.

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 13:45pm


Jordan,
I see where you're coming from on these and I agree with most. The only one I disagree with is Bad Company. It is true that they are an act that has one member people care about. But the same can be said about acts like Blondie, ELO, Dire Straits, Roxy Music. So it has already happened. But I agree that all the others won't be considered. REO Speedwagon, Boston and even Styx will not be considered. I say even Styx because I like some music from Styx but this does not make them worthy of the Hall. I don't mind Grad Illusion at all. But they too have not inspired anyone noteworthy, Now there is Arena rock bands to be considered, Foreigner could be considered for induction. and so could Toto. But you did Not mention them. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:12pm


Plebeian,

Well the reason why those 4 artists are inducted is mostly because they pretty much made history in popular music. The Sex Pistols defined British punk & have influenced pretty much everyone from Alternative to Rap all with releasing only one album. N.W.A. not only defined rap but also changed it with their lyrics & style. The Go - Go's made history as they're the first female band to write their own songs & play instruments & also they're a first female act to hit #1. Carole King mostly because people praised her songwriting skills in which she got already inducted as a SONGWRITER so I don't see why she got inducted for a second time since she's only known for it. I get why Pistols, N.W.A & The Go's are inducted but not King.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:17pm


I hate that there is No edit function on this site.
I will make a small correction. I was saying I like some music from Styx. I don't mind Grand Illusion at all and also I don't mind Pieces of Eight. But they too have not inspired anyone noteworthy, Now as I said there is Arena rock bands to be considered.. See my Post above

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 15:56pm


I get Jordan's points. However, if your stance is the likes of BC and Boston not being considered, there are a glut, a literal GLUT of 70s rocker bands that are in, that you literally could say the same thing about that was mentioned about BC. Just off the top of my head, in recent years, the Doobies, Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, just to name a few. I would preface that Paul Rodgers has been huge in the rock community for 5 decades, and yes, a case could be made for ME, but Bad Company was a mere collaboration of great artists when they began as a "supergroup", which is a term I occasionally find deriding, as though they aren't a real band, and turned themselves into very much one of the most appreciated and enduring rock bands of the last quarter century of the 1900s. You aren't making bad points, it's just the precedent of having such groups as BC, Boston and even REO Speedwagon has already happened, and given the body of membership for the RRHOF, these could be considered favorites by their contemporaries already in. Try as we might, it really is never going to be the Hall of the elite. And there is no satisfying the masses in any way you go universally.

Posted by K Dawg on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 16:20pm


Ben,

Styx is not a bad group & i get why people loved them but when it comes to chances of induction i don't see that happening anytime soon. But i see there's a petition for their consideration, let's be honest just because they're fan petitions for wanting artists being inducted doesn't guarantee it.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 19:26pm


Jordan,
I do agree. I mentioned Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight because I know and owned those 2 albums a few decades ago. I was Not a huge fan at all but I knew Styx, . But I totally agree. Not every old band should be in the Hall. In fact Ive told friends that Styx will be inducted around 2040 or after or Never. You didnt mention Foreigner and Toto. SO I guess you find those more possible. Toto was a band of very respected musicians such as Jeff Porcaro. I think thats his name. I'm glad we covered some of these arena pop rock bands

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 20:03pm


Ben,

Well to be honest, i don't mind if Foreigner & Toto gets a nod. Maybe they should be inducted under AME especially Toto since they were also session musicians.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 21:34pm


I'm inclined to believe Bad Company will be inducted. Paul Rodgers is an important musician in rock history. Gifted guitarist, pianist, and singer. Bad Company 1st 5 albums moved inside the Top 20. Some were in the Top 5. Most of those were gold or platinum. They returned Bad Company in the 1980's with Brian Howe as Singer. More chart success. Gold albums and a platinum one. It shows the strength of the band. Many groups couldn't continue without a singer as great as Paul Rodgers. He returned to the group later. I can see a Musical Excellence
for Paul Rodgers as a possibility when you take into Bad Company, Free, The Firm and some of his solo work. My guess his best chance is with Bad Company. Styx I think will be inducted someday. Dennis DeYoung & Tommy Shaw were 2 highly gifted musicians as well as the rest of the band. They had a string of platinum albums. I think time has proven that Mr. Roboto was a visionary concept and innovative for its time. I like the song Too Much Time On My Hands. Foreigner will definitely be inducted. I think The Cars, The Doobie Brothers, and Cheap Trick were more of a priority at the time. Gramm & Jones are in the Songwriting HOF. Still surprised Dire Straits was nominated and inducted out of the blue. Not many saw that coming. Boston could get a Musical Excellence Award. They don't have the depth of discography like Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. Yet The Go-Go's were inducted with only a few albums. The depth of discography and longevity important to KING. It shows the staying power and talent to navigate through many musical fads and changing popularity. KING

Posted by KING on Wednesday, 12/29/2021 @ 23:13pm


Here my Predications of Nominees of next year Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame


A Tribe Called Quest

Billy Idol

Blink 182

Dionne Warwick

Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Eric B. & Rakim

Eurythmics

Gram Parsons

Iron Maiden

John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers

John Prine

Kate Bush

King Crimson

Little Feat

Love

Mary J. Blige

MC5

The Monkees

Motley Crue

Motorhead

New York Dolls

Pat Benater

Procol Harum

The Replacements

Rufus and Chaka Khan

Salt N Pepa

Sonic Youth

Soundgarden

Steppenwolf

Steve Winwood

Thin Lizzy

War


Senior Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Nominees

Billy Ward and the Dominoes

Big Mama Thornton

Blind Lemon Jefferson

Chubby Checker

Chuck Willis

Ella Fitzgerald

Johnny Ace

Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio

Link Wray

The Marvelettes

Patsy Cline

The Spinners

Posted by Dan Windler on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 00:24am


Jordan,
Look at that you don't mind if Foreigner & Toto gets an induction. I thought perhaps. Those musicians are known for their impressive careers. AME which must be A Music Excellence is good for Toto. AME is A Music Excellence Right??

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 02:39am


Dan Windler,

Your predictions are cool but you're forgetting that Eminem is the only guarantee for 2022. It means he'll be a lock for induction. By your predictions, the ones i might see get inducted are:

A Tribe Called Quest
Mary J. Blige
Pat Benatar
New York Dolls
Sonic Youth
War

BTW your way over the limit of 15 or 16 possible nominees for induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 04:32am


That's correct Ben.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 04:33am


Jordan,
We are in agreement a lot. It seems like you are an original Veteran person of music. I was born in 1965. And sooo I grew up with lots and lots of 70s and early 80s music. You seem to be around my age but it is soo hard to tell. There are some incredible experts like richie that are in their 20s and know a tremendous amount. Google makes things easier. There was no Internet and Google back in the late 70s. I learned a lot on the radio. I'm curious. You got awesome knowledge. You seem to be born 1964-1972

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 06:19am


Ben,

Well i'm a lot younger than you but i did learn history of rock & roll through articles by music historians & watching documentaries. Thanks & you too as well.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 06:25am


Jordan,
I see. Ok you are a lot younger. Well like I said its hard to tell. Well we got a lot to chat about. I can tell ya about a lot of bands first hand. I was there. I was certainly NOT at Woodstock and certainly did NOT see the Doors, Cream, etc Live either. I was like 3 during their heyday. But I was there for the rise of Fleetwood Mac, Aerosmith, Rush Journey. Styx, Foreigner, and soo many others. Hey I saw Rush in Dec 1982 when I was 17. That gives you a quick idea of my original era. Aerosmith and Rush certainly deserve their inductions. So do Journey. I was happy when these 3 were inducted. I would say Styx will either never be inducted or after 2040. Dennis De Young and Tommy Shaw will probably have passed by 2040 I figure. Foreigner and Toto will very likely be inducted way before that. Possibly by 2030. I make zany predictions sometimes. Priority will go much more to acts like the Bangles, Duran Duran, Pat Benatar, Billy Idol and DIana Ross. There won't be too much room for Arena pop rock bands in the near future.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 07:26am



Hey Jordan Einstein,

I would like your opinion on my Rock Hall Inductees tier list. I showed this to the others a year ago, but I would like you thoughts too.

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

1986:
Chuck Berry-S
Sam Cooke-S
Elvis Presley-S
James Brown and the Famous Flames-S
Little Richard-S
Buddy Holly and the Crickets-S
Ray Charles-S
Fats Domino-A
The Everly Brothers-A
Jerry Lee Lewis-A


1987:

Aretha Franklin-S
Muddy Waters-S
Marvin Gaye-S
Roy Orbison-S
Bo Diddley-S
Eddie Cochran-A
Big Joe Turner-A
Smokey Robinson and
the Miracles-A
Jackie Wilson-A
B.B. King-A
Carl Perkins-B
The Coasters-B
Bill Haley and the Comets-B
Clyde McPhatter-C

1988:
The Beatles-S
Bob Dylan-S
The Beach Boys-S
The Supremes-S
The Drifeters-A

1989:
The Rolling Stones-S
Stevie Wonder-S
The Temptations-S
Otis Redding-S
Dion-C

1990:
The Who-S
Simon and Garfunkel-S
The Kinks-S
Four Tops-A
The Four Seasons-B
Bobby Darin-C
The Platters-C
Hank Ballard and the Midnighters-D

This is just part one the others will come as soon as possible.

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 14:50pm


*The Drifters

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 14:52pm


Plebeian,
I remember this list of yours. I can't believe it's been a year. I won't be doing MY Reviews of Old classes I did a year ago. That's more tedious I think than yours. Soo I will review some ones on your list. At least for awhile. I'll skip the first few years. I'll start with 1990. This class got my attention back in 1990 because my favorite band of all time was inducted, the Who. I've mentioned that this is my favorite before. They have been my favorite band for about 40 years. This is the band I own every album from and also a bunch of compilations. The Who were bound to be inducted immediately. This drew my attention for the Hall for the first time. It wasn't just a Hall for the 50s. This was the powerful Who. Those 4 original guys Roger D, Pete Townsend, John Entwistle and Keith Moon. What can I say I love the Who. Of course they in the S category. But so are Simon & Garfunkel and the Kinks. I guess the Four Tops are A-Almost Legendary. One of the best Motown groups. I really don't know Hank Ballard and the Midnighters. I guess they are down at D. I'll take your word for it. My knowledge only goes back as far as the Who, the Stones, the Doors and all the rest of the 60s. I think Hank Ballard and the M's had hits in the 50s. I have never looked them up. I'll follow this for awhile. I won't share too many thoughts you are focused on Jordan's thoughts. I'm sure he will Post on this soon

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 16:47pm


Plebeian,

I got to say your tier list is actually accurate, although i would give Carl Perkins an A but the rest of them are spot on. I also did number ratings on past inductees of each class expect the first five before. I'll show you, i'll be right back.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 16:58pm


Plebeian, here's class of 2021.

Ratings:
10/10 = The Immortals
9/10 = Legendary/Iconic
8/10 = No Brainers
7/10 = Proven Performers
6/10 = Best of the Rest
5/10 = Average/Borderline
4/10 = Not terrible but undeserving
3/10 = Marginal
2/10 = Mediocre
1/10 = Not Legendary/Iconic
0/10 = Not Immortals


Foo Fighters: 8/10
They're one of the most important bands that ever came out & they are still relevant to this day. Dave Grohl is probably one of the most recognizable figures in rock & roll performing with countless of legends alike.

The Go - Go's: 7/10
They were the first female band that have written their own songs & play their own instruments, they inspired any female rockers to do the same. It wouldn't be who they are if it weren't for Belinda Carlisle, Charlotte Caffrey, Gina Schlock, Jane Wiedlin & Kathy Valentine.

Jay - Z: 10/10
A genius that has the most influence & popularity since 2Pac & Biggie, he won a lot of accolades & achievements & influenced acts such as Kanye West, Drake, Kendrick Lamar etc. Also he's a most successful businessman in music.

Carole King: 5/10
She's been regarded as one of the most important singer - songwriters of all time. Written many hits for other artists & she stands on her own as Tapestry became one of the most important albums of all time. The rest of her solo work is not as outstanding & remarkable but she's one of the best.

Todd Rundgren: 6/10
A talented songwriter & producer in his own right. His innovations & influence can not be ignored as those traits. He worked with countless of artists while having such albums like Something/Anything? He should have receive induction for Musical Excellence but oh well.

Tina Turner: 10/10
She simply the best. She's a Queen of Rock & Roll as Aretha Franklin was a Queen of Soul. Her influence & impact is so hard to ignore & she's instantly stood out on her own & that's what became her a 2x inductee along with King & Grohl. I bet there's going to be a excellent tribute at the ceremony this fall.

What do you think? I have more to share.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:07pm


Besides Eminem, Which other acts do you guys see being inducted this year in 2022?.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:17pm


I don't know it would depend on who's on the ballot. Can you wait until the nominees come out before asking about who we see getting inducted again?

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 17:54pm


Richie, here's my only predictions so far for 2022.

Performers:
Pat Benatar (most likely would be inducted following her second nomination)
Duran Duran (possible FYN inductee)
Judas Priest (if they don't get inducted following their possible 3rd nomination then they likely would be inducted under AME & i'll choose Slade or New York Dolls as a replacement.)
Rage Against the Machine (N.W.A did get inducted following 3 possible nominations so it could work for RATM)
Diana Ross (would be next female act to get inducted twice after Tina & Carole)

I hope we might see british being represented once again by next year since this year's class doesn't have any of them & it's the first time since 2013 that it happened.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:00pm


I have to agree with Greg F on this one Richie, why not wait until the nominees are announced or coming close to it & then we would discuss on who's getting inducted. I'm not going to make any more predictions until it happens either late January or early February.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:12pm


In fact, i'm not going to be following as much by the new year since i'm focusing on life right now.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 18:25pm


Jordan,
I do agree. As I said I have a rule of not discussing Inductees until the Nominees are officially announced and known.
Jordan, Just so you know i have this rule that I never predict inductees until the official nominees. it's easier that way. Too many unknowns. I will also have a short recess after the New Year starts

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 20:26pm


This is who I'd like to see getting inducted in 2022.

Kate Bush
Joy Division/New Order
Pat Benatar
Judas Priest
Cher
The Flying Burrito Brothers/Gram Parsons
Sparks
Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus)

Musical Influence

Big Mama Thornton
The Carter Family
Memphis Minnie

Musical Excellence:

Toto
The J.B's
The Meters

Non-Performer

Don Cornelius
Ed Sullivan
Casey Kasem

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 21:15pm


Here is part 2 Jordan
S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

1991:

The Byrds-A
John Lee Hooker-A
Ike and Tina Turner-B
Wilson Pickett-B
Jimmy Reed-B
The Impressions-C
LaVern Baker-D

1992:

The Jimi Hendrix Experience-S
Johnny Cash-S
The Yardbirds-B
The Isley Brothers-B
Sam and Dave-C
Bobby Blue' Bland-C
Booker T. And the M.G.'s-D

1993:

The Doors-S
Creedence Clearwater Revival-S
Sly and the Family Stone-A
Van Morrison-A
Cream-A
Etta James-B
Ruth Brown-C
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers-D

1994:

John Lennon-S
Elton John-S
Bob Marley-S
The Band-A
Grateful Dead-A
The Animals-A
Rod Stewart-B
Duane Eddy-C

1995:

Led Zeppelin-S
Neil Young-S
Janis Joplin-A
Frank Zappa-A
The Allman Brothers Band-A
Al Green-A
Martha and the Vandellas-B

1996:

Pink Floyd-S
David Bowie-S
The Velvet Underground-S
Jefferson Airplane-A
The Shirelles-B
Gladys Knight and the Pips-C
Little Willie John-C

1997:

Joni Mitchell-A
Crosby, Stills, and Nash-A
Bee Gees-A
Parliament-Funkadelic -A
The Jackson 5-B
Buffalo Springfield-C
The (Young) Rascals-C

1998:

Fleetwood Mac-A
Eagles-A
Santana-A
The Mamas and the Papas-C
Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps-C
Lloyd Price-D

1999:

Bruce Springsteen and
the E Street Band-S
Billy Joel-A
Paul McCartney-B
Curtis Mayfield-B
Dusty Springfield-B
The Staple Singers-C
Del Shannon-D

Part 3 and 4 will show up later on New Year's Eve

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 12/30/2021 @ 21:44pm


Generational fun fact regarding inductees:

There were 23 years between the induction of the first Baby Boomer (Stevie Wonder) and the first Xer (Various people in 2012, including Slash, Mike D, and John Frusciante). Meanwhile, there were 8 years between these people and the first Millennial inductee (Ilan Rubin).

Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 02:59am


Greg F,
I like your list. But I change half for mine. A wish list is fine to have. I am replacing Kate Bush and Joy Division/New Order with Jethro Tull and the Monkees. I would love to see both those in the Hall right away. Also the Bangles and Emerson, Lake and Palmer on a wish list of mine. Your other 4 are perfect and terrific for mine. I am now listening to Big Mama Thornton. I have mulled her over as Early I. I read about but Listening Now. Also I will listen to the Meters. I know them a little

Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 03:03am



Part 3 Jordan Einstein

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

2000:

Eric Clapton-A (Very Deserving of his 3-timer status)
Earth, Wind, and Fire-B
James Taylor-B
Bonnie Raitt-C
The Lovin' Spoonful-D
The Monnglows-D

2001:

Michael Jackson-S
Queen-S
Aerosmith-A
Steely Dan-A
Paul Simon-B
Solomon Burke-C
Ritchie Valens-D
The Flamingos-D

2002:

Ramones-S
Talking Heads-A
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers-A
Isaac Hayes-C (Hey, Chef!)
Brenda Lee-C
Gene Pitney-D

2003:

The Clash-S
The Police-A
Elvis Costello and the Attractions-A
AC/DC-A
The Righteous Brothers-C

2004:

Prince-S
ZZ Top-B
George Harrison-C
Jackson Browne-C
Bob Seger-C
The Dells-D

2005:

U2-S
Buddy Guy-B
Pretenders-C
The O'Jays-C
Percy Sledge-D

2006:

Black Sabbath-S
Miles Davis-S
Blondie-A
Sex Pistols-A
Lynyrd Skynyrd-B

2007:

R.E.M.-S
Van Halen-A
Patti Smith-B
Grandmaster Flash and
the Furious Five-C
The Ronettes-C

2008:

Madonna-S
Leonard Cohen-B
John Mellencamp-C
The Ventures-C
The Dave Clark Five-D

2009:

Metallica-S
Run-DMC -A
Jeff Beck-C
Bobby Womack-C
Little Anthony and the Imperials-D

Part 4 will be done as quickly as possible

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:09pm


*Moonglows

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:10pm


Plebeian,

I mostly agree on your tier list part 2. If i make that list it would be like this.

1991:
Lavern Baker - C
The Byrds - S
John Lee Hooker - A
The Impressions - B
Wilson Pickett - A
Jimmy Reed - A
Ike & Tina Turner - A

1992:
Bobby "Blue" Bland - C
Johnny Cash - S
Jimi Hendrix Experience - S
The Isley Brothers - A
Booker T & The M.G's - B
Sam & Dave - B
The Yardbirds - A

1993:
Ruth Brown - A
Cream - A
CCR - A
The Doors - S
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers - C
Etta James - A
Van Morrison - S
Sly & The Family Stone - S

1994:
The Animals - A
The Band - S
Duane Eddy - C
The Grateful Dead - S
Elton John - S
John Lennon - S
Bob Marley - S
Rod Stewart - B

1995:
The Allman Brothers Band - A
Al Green - A
Janis Joplin - S
Led Zeppelin - S
Martha & The Vandellas
Neil Young - S
Frank Zappa - A

1996:
David Bowie - S
Gladys Knight & The Pips - B
Jefferson Airplane - A
Little Willie John - C
Pink Floyd - S
The Shirelles - A
The Velvet Underground - S

1997:
Bee Gees - A
Buffalo Springfield - C
Crosby, Stills & Nash - B
The Jackson 5 - A
Joni Mitchell - A
P Funk - S
The (Young) Rascals - C

1998:
Eagles - A
Fleetwood Mac - B
The Mamas & The Papas - C
Lloyd Price - D
Santana - B
Gene Vincent - A

1999:
Billy Joel - A
Curtis Mayfield - A
Paul McCartney - B
Del Shannon - D
Dusty Springfield - B
Bruce Springsteen - S
The Staple Singers - A

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 12:46pm


I don't see Martha and the Vandellas ranking.

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:00pm


Plebeian,

Here's my own tier list.

2000:
Eric Clapton - A
Earth, Wind & Fire - A
The Lovin Spoonful - D
The Moonglows - C
Bonnie Raitt - B
James Taylor- A

2001:
Aerosmith - A
Solomon Burke - B
The Flamingos - C
Michael Jackson - S
Queen - S
Paul Simon - B
Steely Dan - A
RItchie Valens - B

2002:
Isaac Hayes - B
Brenda Lee - C
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - A
Gene Pitney - D
Ramones - S
Talking Heads - A

2003:
AC/DC - A
The Clash - S
Elvis Costello & The Attractions - A
The Police - S
Righteous Brothers - B

2004:
Jackson Browne - B
The Dells - D
George Harrison - B
Prince - S
Bob Seger - B
Traffic - B
ZZ Top - B

2005:
Buddy Guy - A
The O'Jays - B
The Pretenders - B
Percy Sledge - D
U2 - S

2006:
Black Sabbath - S
Blondie - A
Miles Davis - S
Lynyrd Skynyrd - B
Sex Pistols - A

2007:
Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five - A
R.E.M - S
The Ronettes - C
Patti Smith - A
Van Halen - A

2008:
The DC5 - C
Leonard Cohen - B
Madonna - S
John Mellencamp - B
The Ventures - B

2009:
Jeff Beck - B
Little Anthony & The Imperials - B
Metallica - S
Run DMC - S
Bobby Womack - B

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:04pm


Martha & The Vandellas - B

My bad, wasn't even paying attention.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 13:07pm


Here is part 4 Jordan Einstein and I hope you have a great New Year's Day or Eve!!

S-Legendary
A-Almost Legendary
B-Good/Great
C-Average
D-Below Average

2011:

Alice Cooper-B
Tom Waits-B
Neil Diamond-C
Darlene Love-D
Dr. John-D

2012:

Beastie Boys-A
Guns N' Roses-A
Red Hot Chili Peppers-A
Donovan-C
Small Faces/Faces-D
Laura Nyro-D

2013:

Public Enemy-S
Rush-A
Donna Summer-B
Albert King-B
Randy Newman-C
Heart-C

2014:

Nirvana-S
Peter Gabriel-B
KISS-B
Cat Stevens (also known as Yusuf)-C
Hall and Oates-C
Linda Ronstadt-C

2015:

Green Day-A
Stevie Ray Vaughan and
Double Trouble-B
Lou Reed-B
Bill Withers-C
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band-D
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts-D

2016:

N.W.A.-A
Deep Purple-A
Cheap Trick-C
Chicago-C
Steve Miller-C

2017:

Pearl Jam-S
2Pac-S
Yes-B
Electric Lights Orchestra-C
Journey-C
Joan Baez-C

2018:

Nina Simone-A
The Cars-B
Dire Straits-C
The Moody Blues-C
Bon Jovi-C

2019:

Radiohead-S
The Cure-A
Roxy Music-A
Janet Jackson-B
The Zombies-C
Def Leppard-C
Stevie Nicks-D

2020:

The Notorious B.I.G.-S
T. Rex-A
Depeche Mode-A
Nine Inch Nails-A
Whitney Houston-B
The Doobie Brothers-C

2021:

Jay-Z -S
Foo Fighters-B
Tina Turner-C
Todd Rundgren-C
Carole King-C
The Go-Go's-C

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 15:50pm


Plebeian,

2010:
ABBA - B
Jimmy Cliff - C
Genesis - B
The Hollies - D
The Stooges - A

2011:
Alice Cooper - B
Neil Diamond - B
Dr. John - C
Darlene Love - D
Tom Waits - A

2012:
Beastie Boys - S
Donovan - B
Guns N' Roses - A
Laura Nyro - D
RHCP - A
The Small Faces - C

2013:
Heart - B
Albert King - A
Randy Newman - B
Public Enemy - S
Rush - B
Donna Summer - A

2014:
Peter Gabriel - A
Hall & Oates - B
Kiss - B
Nirvana - S
Linda Ronstadt - B
Cat Stevens - C

2015:
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - D
Green Day - A
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - C
Lou Reed - B
SRV & Double Trouble - B
Bill Withers - B

2016:
Cheap Trick - C
Chicago - C
Deep Purple - B
Steve Miller - D
N.W.A - A

2017:
Joan Baez - C
ELO - C
Journey - D
Pearl Jam - A
2Pac - S
Yes - B

2018:
Bon Jovi - D
The Cars - B
Dire Straits - C
The Moody Blues - C
Nina Simone - A

2019:
The Cure - A
Def Leppard - C
Janet Jackson - A
Stevie Nicks - D
Radiohead - S
Roxy Music - A
The Zombies - C

2020:
Depeche Mode - B
The Doobie Brothers - C
Whitney Houston - A
Nine Inch Nails - A
Notorious B.I.G - A
T. Rex - B

2021:
Foo Fighters - B
The Go Go's - B
Jay Z - S
Carole King - C
Todd Rundgren - B
Tina Turner - A

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 18:03pm


It seems that every couple years when the inductees are announced, We get a shocking omission for that year's class, For 2016, It was Janet Jackson, For 2018, It was Radiohead and for 2020, It was Pat Benatar, So, Do you guys think Eminem could be the shocking omission when this year's inductees are announced?. All in all, He is a very controversial and polarizing figure and controversial acts often need multiple nominations to get in (N.W.A, The Stooges, Black Sabbath, The Sex Pistols), So do you guys think that Eminem could be the shocking omission of this year's class when this year's inductees are announced?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 18:12pm


Richie,

No Eminem's pretty much a lock & an only guarantee for 2022 induction, he's so influential to be passed over. The reason why Radiohead didn't get inducted in their FYE is mostly because they were touring & they scheduled a performance on the day of 2018 induction so that's why it only took them a year to get in. Pat Benatar didn't get it is because while she has influence, i don't consider her a game changer nor a groundbreaker, plus by then she couldn't get inducted before Tina Turner. For Janet Jackson, maybe it's because the Hall is having problems with women being inducted so that's why it took her so long.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 12/31/2021 @ 20:28pm


I think that The Troggs should be inducted. They really helped shaped Rock and Roll.

Posted by Patrick Stipe on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 07:56am


I'm going to assume he's kidding, but Wild Thing should be in the songs section...

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 12:30pm


Interesting takes Jordan Einstein though I have a question.

Why Bon Jovi, Journey, and Steve Miller low? Not to say they are low for a reason, but curious why those 3 are D.

Posted by Plebeian on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 13:35pm


Only a month left

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 14:39pm


So, my goal for the short term of this month, since I am a list fiend, is to make a list of my personal choices for HOF rankings from 1 to 240-something. This is not meant to be a comprehensive list, as there is a fair chunk of the populace I am not as familiar with, particularly many of the 50s-60s acts, but it will be a fun undertaking. If requested, I will post a top 50 or complete list here once I finish. It won't be analytical, just a list. Not meant to offend anyone, just my preferences.

Happy New Year, all!

Posted by K Dawg on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 15:47pm


As I said last time Plebeian's rankings were revealed, I don't think someone who had hits in 4 different decades should be D tier.

And like Michael W. said on his version, Bon Jovi are too big for the D tier.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 19:27pm


PERFORMER
Canned Heat
King Crimson
Pat Benatar
Procol Harum
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Styx
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
Asia
Toto
Queensryche
Anthrax
Slayer
Pantera
Rage Against the Machine
Jefferson Starship
The Alan Parsons Project
Bad Company
The Marshall Tucker Band
Dave Matthews Band
Jethro Tull
Kansas
Stray Cats
Billy Idol
The B-52's
Devo
America
Boston
Foreigner
Foghat
Stone Temple Pilots
The Smashing Pumpkins
The Smiths
New Order
Echo and the Bunnymen
The Psychedelic Furs
They Might Be Giants
Iron Maiden
Dio
Judas Priest
Whitesnake
Poison
Twisted Sister
Warrant
Great White
White Lion
Cinderella
The Sonics
George Thorogood and the Destroyers
Huey Lewis and the News
Robert Palmer
Steve Winwood
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Link Wray and His Wray Men
Iron Butterfly
Steppenwolf
Chic
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Chubby Checker

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Pete Best
Peter Green
Bob Welch

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
The Jeff Beck Group
Wings
The Belmonts
Crazy Horse
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention
Lou Rawls
Steve Miller Band

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
Ella Fitzgerald
Tommy Johnson

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 22:45pm


PERFORMERS PART 2
The Big Bopper
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
Survivor
Loverboy
The Guess Who
Peter, Paul, and Mary
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
.38 Special
Eddie Money
Coolio
Warren Zevon

SPECIAL COMMITTEE PART 2
The Revolution

Note: Lou Rawls should be under Performers, not special committee. There is no edit feature.

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/1/2022 @ 22:54pm


Plebeian,

The reason why i put those 3 acts in the "D" ranking is because while they have popularity, they were never as influential & never considered as "game changers" nor "groundbreakers" like the most other inductees just those one trick ponies that had their music overplayed on the radio. Plus note for Steve Miller: other reason is because he's against his own induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 00:12am


Plebeian,
Happy New Year. I see you and Jordan went though all the tiers. They are both nice lists. I would have reviewed some myself but too extensive for me Right Now. You guys had the tiers under control. I will just say that ones like the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac I agree as you do with A. Most people would agree with Bruce Springsteen at S and Billy Joel at A. I also agree with Paul McCartney B. Paul McCartney as a solo performer should be B. He had some great albums with Wings like Band on the Run and Venus and Mars. But albums like Press to Play in the 80s are not legendary at all.
I'm using the 1999 class as an example. I agree with Del Shannon as D. His main hit was Runaway. He is a bit before my time but I've seen charts of the early 60s. He only had a few other hits overall.
Now then there is No need for me to go though your list too. As far as Eminem. I know very little about his music. NOT every guy in his mid 50s like me does. That's accurate. I will be 57. I'm sure many my age have heard Eminem. but it is fair to say many my age like me are not as aquainted with his music. But in fairness to a Newer generation than mine Eminem may be a lock. Even though I don't know his music he seems to be a huge influence. How's that. I don't know him well but i can see him as a lock. The Ramones were a lock right away from their era of the mid 70s. The same could be said with Eminem. That's what I think. I noticed Eminem was at the current ceremony in the LL Cool J segment. I;m curious about your current view on Eminem. Now Pat Benatar will surely be nominated this time. She is a popular woman of Rock. We will have to wait until the real nominees come

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 04:14am


I object to Steve Miller's induction, only for one reason. It should've been his whole band.

The announcement of the nominees comes this month?

Posted by K Dawg on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 11:40am


K Dawg:

To be fair, I think it would have been awfully difficult to do that. Looking at SMB's Wikipedia entry, they have 5 current members (including Miller himself) and 25 former members; it was like they had a completely different lineup for each of their first few albums and for each of their biggest songs. Which members do you include?

Posted by Joe S. on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 12:43pm


K Dawg,

Nominee announcement shouldnt be til mid-February, not sure where talk of this month came from.

Posted by RG on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 13:54pm


Well since the Hall is going to be announcing the nominees for 2022 inductions in February, here's who i certainly think should be the nominees.

A Tribe Called Quest (eligible since 2015, 1st nomination)
Beck (eligible since 2019, 1st nomination)
Big Star (eligible since 1998, 1st nomination)
Eminem (FYE, 1st nomination)
INXS (eligible since 2006, 1st nomination)
The Jam (eligible since 2003, 1st nomination)
Judas Priest (eligible since 2000, 3rd nomination)
King Crimson (eligible since 1995, 1st nomination)
Kool & The Gang (eligible since 1995, 1st nomination)
The Replacements (eligible since 2007, 2nd nomination)
The Runaways (eligible since 2002, 1st nomination)
Diana Ross (eligible since 1996, 1st nomination)
Carly Simon (eligible since 1997, 1st nomination)
The Smiths (eligible since 2009, 3rd nomination)
Soundgarden (eligible since 2012, 2nd nomination)
War (eligible since 1997, 4th nomination)

By my picks above, who do you think should be inducted?

Posted by Dougie Tokori on Sunday, 01/2/2022 @ 17:54pm


Jordan,
I want to say I agree with you on Eminem. I don't know his music at all. But I've read about his popularity. I figure he is a popular figure that represents a younger generation. I know my wife's Nephews who are about 30 right now Love Eminem. Immense popularity is a big factor for induction. Most of us whether fan or Not include him on our lists. There has been several controversial acts all through Rock history that were Inducted. Eminem is pretty much a lock.
I'll go in a different direction and mellow down with a discussion on Duran Duran for a minute, They should probably be inducted but I think it could take D Duran at least a couple nominations to get induction. They may go through the same thing as the Cars and the Cure. It's not a matter of controversy. It's a matter of votes. I thought we could start some chat on D Duran,

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/3/2022 @ 03:18am


Ben,

I think the reason why it took The Cure & The Cars (heck i'll include Depeche Mode) them multiple nominations is mostly because they were totally misunderstood & were not as legendary as the other New Wave & Post Punk legends like Talking Heads, The Police, Elvis Costello & Blondie in which they were inducted so quickly (although it took Blondie a few years to get in but whatever.) Don't get me wrong, those 3 bands (The Cure,Cars & DM) are very influential in their own right but that may be the reason. Maybe it could be the same problem with Duran Duran & i can see your point on them taking multiple nominations to get in but they haven't been so yet so we must wait & see.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/3/2022 @ 21:13pm


Jordan,
You do see my point. And you added to that by saying that The and the Cars were not as legendary as the other ones you said. I think the Hall wanted to get the biggest legends of New Wave inducted first. I happen to like the Talking Heads a lot by the way. The Cars were inducted much later on in 2018. They paved the way for the Cure and D Mode. We seem to agree with Duran Duran.
Now then I've changed my Early Influence picks again. Here they are.

Early Influence::
John Coltrane
Ella Fitzgerald
Dionne Warwick
I'll stick with these awhile. I put in Ella Fitzgerald because my Dad mentioned her a lot. Hey If I will be 57 then clearly My Dad grew up during the 50s and somewhat before. He talked a lot about Ella Fitzgerald. He spoke a whole lot about Classical and Ella Fitzgerald. I own a couple tunes by Ella. Her recordings date back to at least the late 1930's. And since she is a legend she is a Very good pick for E Influence. What are your thoughts? I am just not ready to pick a 1970s act for E Influence. This is the era Im used to for E Influence

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 03:27am


Jordan,
I in fact like Talking Heads, the Police and Blondie a lot. And I like a bit of Elvis Costello. I own a substantial amount from these 4. I was rather late in the game with the first wave of Classic bands. You know Gr Dead, Elton John, Led Zep, The Who, E Clapton, Steely Dan, etc etc. Soo it makes sense that I was a kind of early fan of Blondie and Talking Heads. Circa 1980. I was 15. This New save scene was great. A Flock of Seagulls and Duran Duran. The Flock have NO chance. Duran Duran do for sure.
There was a mania around them 1983-86. The Flock faded after a year. Ha have you heard of the Flock? They did I RAN and Space Age Love Song. The only 2 hits. I was NOT a FLOCK of SG fan. Duran Duran I liked. I own a bunch of their top hits.
I was never a fan of the Cure or Depeche Mode. But Depeche Mode especially had a large body of work. They are both NOT My bag at all. I leaned to VAN HALEN, Bon Jovi and Stevie Ray Vaughan.That's what I followed a lot in the actual 1980s

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 08:40am


I don't know if Duran Duran will get a nomination this year, but I do think they will be inducted the first time they are nominated, simply because they were significantly more popular than the the Cure or Depeche Mode were. Their level of mainstream success gives them better name recognition than those other new wave artists and would help them garner the votes they need. The only thing that would hold them back is if people use their popularity with teenage girls to dismiss them, but that would be a mistake. I'd like to see them get a nom this year and I think they've got a chance, but you never know.

Posted by Michael W. on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 10:02am


The R&R hall of fame has missed opportunities to correct some wrongs in recent years and need to get some credibility back
here are some of my favorite artists and some glowing omissions from the Hall . In this day and age of " influencers " , tell me how the following do not make the cut .

The Pixies
Gram Parsons
Kate Bush
Captain Beefheart
Joy Division
Television ( the best of the CBGB bands , and only one not inducted )


Musical Excellence
Ry Cooder
Adrian Belew

Posted by Jesse on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 12:25pm


Michael W.,
Yeah I see what you mean. But keep in mind the Cars took 3 nominations to get inducted. The Cars were certainly very popular. Like I always say every year Let's wait for the real nominees. Duran Duran is a great nominee. But we have to see what really happens

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 16:12pm


Hello to all!

In just under a month's time, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee will release the names of who will be nominated by the end of this month for the RRHOF Class of 2022. Now, last year's inductions were quite significant. Not only were there 6 Performers inductees (or 7 when considering LL Cool J); 7 other artists and/or industry leaders got inducted in a massive expansion of other categories. Plus, the Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project played an important and crucial role in who would eventually get inducted. I feel similar events and ideals will be in play for the 2022 inductees. So, with that in mind, here is who I think will be nominated in the Performers category.

Diana Ross
Eminem
Kate Bush
Carly Simon
Lionel Richie and/or The Commodores
Chaka Khan and/or Rufus
Brian Eno
Nass
The Monkes
The Smashing Pumpkins
Dave Matthews Band
Sting
Mary J. Blige
Judas Priest
Sonic Youth
Eurythmics

Now, this might turn out to be completely wrong. However, I do think about maybe half of the artists listed will get nominated. In that regard, the likely to be nominated will possibly turn out to be:

Diana Ross
Eminem
Chaka Kahn and/or Rufus
The Monkes
Dave Matthews Band
Mary J. Blige
Judas Priest

Once again, those are the ones who I am pretty certain are going to be nominated. As of right now, I can only think of two virtual locks this year: Diana Ross and Eminem. It is quite obvious why Mr. Mathers will go in right on the first try. For Ms. Ross: we at Future Rock Legends voted her into the latest Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project with the most votes out of any nominee in any category. The year before, we did the same for Tina Turner; she got inducted into the actual RRHOF afterwards. And when you really think about it: Diana Ross was more than just her tenure in the Supremes. This oversight, which we at FRL corrected, will I hope to be corrected by the Nom Com later in the year.

As well, I am hoping that Sting can get inducted sooner rather than later, either in the Performers category or through a special recognition category. Same goes with Steve Winwood, who I think is a prime candidate for the Musical Excellence category. And I could see Sparks get at least considered in one category or another. It has been an impressive and brilliant past 20-odd months for the Mael Brothers. To my fellow posters: I suggest a double bill night of streaming The Sparks Brothers followed by Annette. Prepare to be amazed and have your eyes and ears open.

More to come, I think; so, stay tuned,

Lax39

Posted by Lax39 on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 20:35pm


Maybe I'm picking with my heart here but gunning for this to be the nominee list:

Dionne Warwick
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Carly Simon
Eminem
Cher
The B-52s
Eric B & Rakim
Rage Against the Machine
Judas Priest
Phish
Kool and The Gang
Duran Duran
Pat Benatar
Beck

Inductees

Eminem
Dionne Warwick
Jethro Tull
Cher
Kool and The Gang
Pat Benatar

If 7

The B-52s

Early/genre influence:

Big Mama Thornton
MC5
The Carter Family

Musical Excellence:

The Meters
Willie Nelson
Chaka Khan
Carol Kaye

NP

Brian Eno
Rick Rubin

Posted by Tom H. on Tuesday, 01/4/2022 @ 21:27pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 5, 2021. In approximately 20 more days, Lobsterfest may begin and in less than 30 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that the newer generation does not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick



In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait another year!



Here are the other 10:


11. The B-52s

12. Sheryl Crowe

13. Thin Lizzy

14. Eurythmics

15. Cher

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews Band

18. Eminem

19. Salt-n-Pepa

20. John Prine

Well, what do you think so far?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 02:45am


Enig,
Today is January 5, 2021. In less than 30 days I will turn 57 years old. In about 40 days it's Valentine's Day. It's similar to your cool greeting.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I too would think that a few of the same old veterans will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I also would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and tragic passing of the very talented Neil Peart in 2020. But I differ a lot about the newer generation. Some do understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). I seem to find that it's mixed. Some know them some do Not. They know them from your parents, which is people our age. I have a 24 year old God daughter. She seems to know who Rush are. Not the other 2. But I can tell her about them. She loves techno. but can understand the music of the past.

I will NOT get into inductees at this time. But these are the artists I predicts as nominees

PERFORMERS
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Mary J Blige
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Chaka Khan
The Monkees
Outkast
Rage Against the Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

In my opinion Eminem is a lock even though I don't know any of his music. It is a big artist of a new generation. So my view of the new generation is a bit different. They may know old artists and also I'm willing to include Eminem even if it's not my bag.

What do you think? Sorry if I am a bit negative with criticism. I'm just sharing a different view from someone your age. Be well and Talk to ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 03:31am


Ben,

I don't think you're being negative at all, no worries!

I do notice though, when newer acts (particularly in hip-hop) come up for discussion your take is usually: I'm not familiar with their music but the younger generation seems to like them. I appreciate your open-mindedness, but I think it could be really interesting for you to put some time into listening to these artists, familiarizing yourself with some of their work, and forming your own opinions on their music and merits for induction - even if it's just a few songs here and there. I think that that would lead to more interesting discussions from our varied perspectives. After all, the younger members of this forum familiarize themselves with artists from before their time for the sake of discussion all the time.

Happy to recommend some Eminem songs or songs by other newer artists if you'd like!

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 09:42am


RG,
That would be great. Actually I've done this plenty before. I knew just about nothing about Tupac Shakur. I actually know he's 2Pac. I listened to 4 songs of his and downloaded 1. I own California Love for a couple years. And I did listen to some BIGGIE. .
I was a zero with 2Pac. But actually knew a couple BIG tunes from the 1990s. Ive known Juicy for about 25 years. I downloaded Juicy a couple years ago. Biggie is kinda cool.he is the West Coast. Right? And just recently I caught up a bit on NIN and Jay-Z. Obviously NIN is strictly alternative. But I was NOT aquainted. I actually relate more to a couple Jay-Z tunes. 99 Problems seems to be one of the main ones. Considering I started with Bob Dylan, The Who, Doors, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Steely Dan, Jeff Beck, Blondie etc etc. This is rather open minded. I knew some LL and Beastie Boys when they were first on the rise. They are rather Old School. Yeah you can recommend some Eminem songs. Yeah you're right. I felt Enig's comment went a bit too far. Me and Enig are about the same age. But what he says about the younger generation is NOT accurate. Hey I've loved Yes and Moody Blues for about 43 years. But I'm not so harsh on the Younger generation. I know some guys in their early 30s that love Rush and Thin Lizzy. But also Love Tool. .

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 10:15am


So, I haven't posted them here, but these are my predictions for the 2022 nominations. I haven't really changed them since I first came up with the list. To me, that means I feel most of these acts are trending ones who mostly stand a decent chance of seeing a nom. On a side note, since Kraftwerk was added in the ME cat last year, I'd suspect Rufus or Chaka Khan to get a similar treatment to open up a perpetually held slot. So without further ado, here is my list:

K-Dawg's Way Too Early 2022 predictions:

1. Smashing Pumpkins (William Patrick Corgan, D'arcy Wretzky, James Iha, James Chamberlin) - The most perplexing omission of the 90s bands thus far. They have everything--monster albums, a diverse lineup, and a critical darling in Billy Corgan. It's only a matter of time before they enter Cleveland; hopefully, they can get the original lineup to patch things up, which is by far no easy task.

2. Rage Against the Machine (Timm Commerford, Zack de la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk) - Tom Morello and crew will get a long hard look, especially since fellow Committee member Dave Grohl coasted in FYE with the Foo Fighters. Their politically charged music is as relevant as ever in 2021.


3. Eminem - Love him or hate him, Marshal Mathers is all but guaranteed to go in for 22, but I can totally see him going Sex Pistols on the whole affair...

4. Duran Duran (Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Andy Taylor, Warren Cuccurullo, Nick Rhodes, Roger Taylor) - Prog adjacent, and easily one of the biggest 80s bands yet to even fail to garner a nom for the Hall; I hold to the thought this well could be their year.

5. Carly Simon - With Carole King getting over the hump, Carly is a natural songwriters choice. How is the voice behind "You're So Vain" still waiting on the outside?

6. The B52s (Fred Schneider, Keith Strickland, Cindy Wilson, Ricky Wilson, Kate Pierson) - There aren't many more clear cut choices for an originally influential band than this quintet. They are the pioneers of college rock. And they are socially conscious and LBGT darlings, so that could factor in

7. Eurythmics (Annie Lennox, David A. Stewart) - The Smiths and Joy Divison/New Order keep getting mentioned; however, since the Nom Com has proven time and again they are Americentric, the very deserving duet of Lennox and Stewart will get consideration and again, a very worthy potential inductee.

8. Foreigner (Lou Gramm, Mick Jones, Ian McDonald, Rick Willis, Dennis Elliott, Al Greenwood, Jeff Jacobs) - 70s rock is still not completely tapped out; in terms of popularity and sales, Foreigner has proven they are probably the most notable pop rock band left from a saturated genre.

9. Mariah Carey - with Whitney, Janet and now Tina Turner in, the R&B/pop pendulum is swinging Mariah's way.

10. Harry Nilsson - a choice I wouldn't have seen a year ago, but with Todd Rundgren getting a surprise induction as a performer, Harry becomes an instant candidate to be next

11. Motley Crue (Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee) - I am in the minority in thinking that the committee does want to close the trinity of 80s hair band superstars, and Crue will get another look.

12. Iron Maiden (Bruce Dickinson, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Janick Gers, Steve Harris, Nicko McBrain) - Another minority pick by me, I think that Maiden will not go as quietly as some think; they made enough noise to be heard from again. Priest could also resurface, but I don't think they're ready for Ozzy yet...

13. TLC (T-Boz Tionne Watkins, Left Eye Lisa Lopes, Chili Rozonda Thomas) - Rappers are getting in left and right, but no female hip hop act has yet been nominated. Salt N Pepa arguably should get the first look, but TLC has both the success and the tragedy (the passing of Left Eye in 2002), so they have the more compelling story. This also will lead to the eventual FYE of Beyonce in about, what, 6 years?

14. Tori Amos - The late 90s were a powerful time for feminism and the Lilith Fair. Tori Amos is innovative and a critical darling. She has the influence and reputation to get a look.

15. Bad Company (Paul Rodgers, Brian Howe, Mick Ralphs, Boz Burrell, Steve Price, Simon Kirke) - Always on the top of my list for omissions, Paul Rodgers NEEDS to be in. It's criminal they keep passing him over.

16. The Monkees (Davy Jones, Michael Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork) - to my mind, the last great 60s group waiting on the outside. 2 members already passed (and Mike Nesmith recently did as well) and they are embarking on a farewell tour this upcoming year. It's time to put them in the RRHOF

17. Soundgarden (Chris Cornell, Kim Thayil, Ben Shepard, Matt Cameron) - Grunge isn't dead yet, and Soundgarden could get another look. AIC also should get some consideration in this slot.

18. The Commodores (William King, Lionel Richie, JD Nicholas, Thomas McCrary, Milan Williams, Ronald LaPread, Walter Orange) - Lionel Richie and his original group still remain a great case to get some more 70s R&B in. The Hall can't get this right either.

19. Phil Collins - My WTF pick of the entire list; the Hall likes to put artists in more than once, regardless if they're worthy or it steals a spot from a long deserved and forgotten person. Phil is a big name who would get attention. And, for his credit, that drum solo on "In the AIr Tonight"...well...legend

I don't do predictions this time around until maybe right before the announcement of who will be inducted. I do expect still a more rock heavy presence than we might otherwise get with changing trends in music (by 1996, we had really begun to shift away from rock music in the pop charts)

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 11:54am


Ben,

I'm in the same age range as you (53), but I listen to as much new stuff as I do old. I tend to be more of an alternative rock guy, but I try to sample a little bit of everything if I can. Being from the Detroit area, I have no choice but to know Eminem.

Enimem can be a little tough to get into for some people because of the language he uses and the fats that there are blatant elements of misogyny and homophobia in a number of his songs. But he's an extremely talented rapper and crafts some very clever and intricate rhymes. He's unquestionably a game-changer in the evolution of hip-hop.

He has three different personas that he uses when recording, and each one has it's own style and personality.

Marshall Mathers is his actual name, and the most serious of his personalities. Marshall songs are the least offensive, display more vulnerability, and are often autobiographical. Key songs: Lose Yourself, Stan, Love The Way You Lie, Cleanin' Out My Closet

Eminem is the pure rapper persona. This is where he shows everyone what he can do and why he's considered an elite level artist. Key songs: Rap God, Godzilla, Till I Collapse

Slim Shady is his darkest and most offensive side. Shady songs are his party jams, diss tracks, and F-U's to anyone who's pissed him off. You feel guilty listening to these songs because they can be so excessively vulgar or violent, but they're also some of his best. Key songs: The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is, Without Me, Shake That (I've never ever felt worse about liking a song than this one, but I can't help it)

I might have placed some of the songs under the wrong persona, but this will give you a general idea of his musical output.

Posted by Michael W. on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 11:59am


Michael W.,
I have heard Enimem can be a little tough to get into for some people because of the language he uses and the raw songs. I've read that he is a talented rapper and crafts some very clever and intricate rhymes. I would call him unquestionably a game-changer in the evolution of hip-hop based on what I've read. I know that some friends who are Only into 1980s Rap trashed him. Since I'm not even a huge 80s Rap fan. I only know LL and Beastie Boys. I was a strictly Rock guy in the 1970s and 80s. Rock stations were not going to play any Rap so I only heard a litttle.
I have noticed in the reverse that a bunch of the younger generation know music from Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton, Aerosmith and Steely Dan among others. Younger ones seem to know a bunch of my main favorites like those. I've come across young ones digging Rush. It helps them with discussions on here for sure.
I'll check out Eminem when I get a chance.
Now if you excuse me I will listen to Traffic from 1970 at this moment. I was in the mood for Traffic right now. I'm on a different music plane right Now. You probably know Traffic too. Perhaps. But if not yu probably dig later favs of mine. I like Talking Heads quite a bit. Just throwing out some random Old Rock names

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 12:36pm


Ben,

To add on to Michael W's summary, here are what I think are some of Eminem's seminal songs:

Lose Yourself - The general consensus is that this is his best song. Written for the movie 8 Mile, which was a semi-autobiographical telling of Eminem's early career. His first #1 hit, and the first rap song to win the Oscar for Best Original Song. An inspirational rags-to-riches anthem over a tense rock-esque instrumental.

My Name Is
The Real Slim Shady
Without Me - These three songs, the hit lead singles of Eminem's first three albums, are essentially a trilogy, introducing the Slim Shady persona, an immature, aggressive provocateur out to piss off the world.

Stan - A song written from the perspective of an obsessive superfan writing fan mail to Eminem, getting more and more unhinged throughout the song until it ends tragically. Enough of a cultural milestone that "stan" has become a slang term among young people for people who are fans of an artist to the point of obsession.

Love the Way You Lie - Part of Eminem's early 2010's comeback after a career downturn in the mid-late 00s. A collaboration with Rihanna exploring an abusive relationship.

Rap God - A show of technical rapping skill that honestly reads as a Hall of Fame acceptance speech at times (he literally namedrops the Rock Hall in the song).

Til I Collapse - Just a really solid song. Sleeper hit that was never released as a single, but has since become one of Eminem's most streamed songs.

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 15:30pm


I would add "Cleaning Out My Closet" to that list. He really lays bare his soul and shows some of his motivations with that track.

Also, it's forgotten he had a group for a little while called D12. They have some interesting songs

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/5/2022 @ 16:11pm


Hey Everyone.
I'm sorry to interrupt alll this. I just found that the Hall had the SINGLES category
in 2020
Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967

Welll How do you like that one. It was done during the height of the Pandemic. It's all 60s Songs I know well. And so the Troggs and Sam the Sham are now in the Hall with their hits. And so 2 things. This category is still around, And predictions for this should be in the 1960s.
And soo I pick Little Bit O Soul- Music Explosion 1967
For 2021 just passed. The Singles may be announced for 2021 Class
You MUST resppond everyone!

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 04:16am


I need someone to the 2020 Singles Category. How did i miss this?? Maybe it was Never announced until now. Someone mentioned a Joke about Wild Thing. Its one of my favorite 60s songs. Anyone respond. This is a big miss by me

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 07:14am


DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN DURAN!
They are due after all these years! At least a nomination! They were pioneers in early MTV era videos and have sold over 100 million albums! Give them their due!

Posted by Andre D. on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 08:12am


SINGLES SINGLES singles Category for 2020

I think a few of us didnt know about this at allll. I found out TODAY there is a singles list for 2020

Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967
Its just stuff from the 60s
I know Time is on my Side from the Stones, I never noticed the credits about this song. It was the first Top 10 hit for the band. In Dec 1964
I know immense 60s stats and info. But this is Irma thomas, I do NOT know this

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 09:55am


Andre,

DD will get nominated & subsequently inducted whenever the committee decides to do so.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:05am


Jeese,

The reason why most of your picks haven't been considered is because the Hall is trying to be contemporary with their ceremonies by letting artists that have more popularity than influence inducted. I will agree that your picks are deserving but not all of them would be getting an honor.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:44am


Enig,

Your predictions are very cool but i highly doubt that most of them will ever be nominated let alone inducted.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 10:48am


To be honest, i really hope the Hall would move away from letting in more 60's & 70's classic bands because they don't deserve to be inducted in the same place as the legendary immortals & it creates a logjam for more 80's & 90's waiting for induction. Let's be honest, do we need to go back to 2016 & 18 when most of these acts from those decades are inducted. This isn't the Hall back in the 90's when it just about that, pretty soon we're going to be seeing the aughts being considered so those decades are going to be done by then.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 11:08am


Follower,
You are the perfect person to draw attention about the singles. I don't when it was put through. I was on the Rock Hall website. I was looking up bios for last year. At the bottom was list of singles for 2020.
They are alll the 60s.
Time is on my Side- Irma Thomas was odd
I didnt know she wrote it. Its famous by Mick and the boys. Google says it was released by Irma T in 1964. Must have been before the Stones hit. Please or somebody check out the Singles for 2020. Ahhh Wild Thing is inducted
Wild Thing-The Troggs 1966.
Jr Walker and the All Stars 1965
Wooly Booly-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs 1965
Time is on My Side- Irma Thomas 1964
The Letter-The Box Tops 1967
Its just stuff from the 60s
Respond

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 13:46pm


Ben,

Stuff from the 60's is what the Singles Category was. I still want Donnie to do his 80's and 90's singles, though.

But I think we can say the Singles Category is dead.

Posted by Follower on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 23:10pm


Ben,

Yes, the 2020 singles appeared on the website I think when the 2020 inductees were announced, but didn't really receive an announcement or any part in the ceremony. For 2021, there was no acknowledgment of the category at all. I think it's dead, and was an experiment that failed due to poor execution. I wouldn't fixate on it much more.

Posted by RG on Thursday, 01/6/2022 @ 23:11pm


RG,
I Will definitely not fixate om it anymore. I just wanted to know if you or anyone knew when this happened. I don't often go to the actual Rock hall site. But yeah there is NO aknowledgement for 2021. I never have liked this silly category. It is dead. John Sykes must have stopped this nonsense. There was some 50s songs about 3 years ago. Rumble Link Wray was inducted. Thats from 1958. Ohh and Maybe the Chantels also the 50s. I see the Troggs got a nod with Wild Thing.1966. On a tangent Jimi Hendrix did an average version of it. One of the few average songs of the great Jimi. Singles Category is DONE. Back to other things.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 02:46am


Since I want to promote his ideas, here are the songs that Donnie promoted in his series:

50's Singles:
Shake a Hand by Faye Adams
Gee by The Crows
Sh Boom by The Chords
Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine) by The Penguins
In The Still of the Nite by The Five Satins
Susie Q by Dale Hawkins
At The Hop by Danny and the Juniors
Love is Strange by Mickey & Sylvia
Come, Go With Me by The Del-Vikings
Chantilly Lace by The Big Bopper

60's Singles:
Stay by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs
Tossin' and Turnin' by Bobby Lewis
The Loco-Motion by Little Eva
Do You Love Me by The Contours
Wipe Out by The Surfaris.
Chapel of Love by The Dixie Cups
Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire
Psychotic Revelation by The Count Five
Dirty Water by The Standells
96 Tears by ? and the Mysterians
San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair) by Scott McKenzie
Time Has Come Today by The Chambers Brothers
Get Together by The Youngbloods
Spirit in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum
Sugar Sugar by The Archies

70's Singles:
Layla by Derek and the Dominoes
War by Edwin Starr
All Right Now by Free
O-o-h Child by The Five Stairsteps
Hold Your Head Up by Argent
American Pie by Don McLean
I Can See Clearly Now by Johnny Nash
Think (About It) by Lynn Collins
Stuck In The Middle With You by Stealers Wheel
Drift Away by Dobie Gray
Rock The Boat by The Hues Corporation
Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin
Fooled Around and Fell in Love by Elvin Bishop
Disco Inferno by The Trammps
Don't Leave Me This Way by Thelma Houston
Turn The Beat Around by Vicki Sue Robinson
I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor
Teenage Kicks by The Undertones
YMCA by The Village People
Pop Muzik by M
We Are Family by Sister Sledge
Video Killed The Radio Star by The Buggles
My Sharona by The Knack
What I Like About You by The Romantics
Rapper's Delight by The Sugarhill Gang

I want to know what 80's and 90's songs he thinks could be inducted this way!

Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 04:28am


Follower,
That list is awesome. In Donnies's absence I will continue
Echo Beach by Martha and the Muffins
Don't You Want Me by Human League
Tainted Love by Soft Cell
The Stroke by Billy Squier
Down Under by Men at Work
Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant
Homo Sapien by Pete Shelley
Flashdance by Irene Cara
She Blinded Me with Science by Thomas Dolby
Twilight Zone by Golden Earring
Major Tom by Peter Schilling
Come on Feel the Noise by Quiet Riot
I Want a New Drug by Huey Lewis and the News
Hold me Now by Thompson Twins
Sister Christian by Night Ranger

There is the Early 80s. You could continue or Wait for Donnie
That takes things to 1984

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 07:42am


My best guess for 2022:

Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Mariah Carey
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Fugees
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus with Chaka Khan
Soundgarden
Sparks
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ian on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 08:20am


K-Dawg,

You mentioned a few days ago that you were going to rank the all the performer inductees according to your personal preference. I would be interested to see how they all stack up for you. Being a bit of a list geek myself, I did something similar the first year of COVID. I spent a day just listening to each inducted performer and then ranked them from my favorite to least favorite. I also noted my favorite song from each artist. There were quite a few that I ended up liking more than I thought and few that I ended up liking less after a deeper dive. Maybe after you get yours done we can compare lists.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 11:21am


New predictions now in the new year.

The 60s:
Dionne Warwick
The Monkees

The 70s:
Diana Ross
Sparks

The 80s:
The B-52's
Eurythmics
Chaka Khan
Duran Duran
Iron Maiden
Pat Benatar
Eric B. And Rakim

The 90s:
Rage Against The Machine
Fiona Apple
Soundgarden

The 00s:
Eminem

All-Generational:
Jane's Addiction

The Performers:
Pat Benatar
Duran Duran
Rage Against The Machine
Eminem
Diana Ross
The Monkees

Early Influence:
Joe Tex
Big Mama Thornton
MC5

Musical Excellence:
Carol Kaye
Chaka Khan
The Meters

AE: Rick Rubin

Ben, RG, K-Dawg, Richie, Michael W., Jordan Einstein, etc..

Your thoughts?

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 11:31am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, KING, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Follower, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

Joe and Kristen of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast have made their predictions for the next 10 induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

2027: Alicia Keys, Patti LaBelle, Smashing Pumpkins, Wu-Tang Clan, The White Stripes and INXS.

2028: Justin Timberlake, Mary J. Blige, Sheryl Crow, Motley Crue, Pixies and TLC.

2029: Beyonce, Kanye West, No Doubt, Iron Maiden, Diana Ross and Dave Matthews Band.

2030: The Killers, Rihanna, A Tribe Called Quest, Oasis, Motorhead and Alanis Morissette.

2031: Blink-182, Lil Wayne, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, The Bangles and Kool & The Gang.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:08pm


Richie, I know you love the constant predictions, but these are ridiculous. Beyond the next year or two, it's a domino effect and whatever social trends are hot. Some are slam dunks (or should be), but 10 years out is WAY too far to predict at this point.

Michael W., I will get to that in the next week. Thanks for your interest! REMEMBER, I am going to rank it based on my knowledge an opinion. If there's someone who has had a huge influence and I rank them low, I may not be altogether familiar with them. That, and opinions are like anal cavities. Everyone has them.

Plebeian, all in all a solid list. I don't get the Fiona Apple love over Tori Amos or Bjork. She's had 2 big songs 24 years ago. My other nitpick is Erik B and Rakim are probably not going to get another look with all the big guns coming up in rap the next few years. If LL Cool J, who is THE name that put rap onto the rock map, gets Musical Excellence, their chances are slim and none for anything more than that.

Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:48pm


Richie,

The first thing I think when I look at that list is that pretty much any of those artists that are eligible could be inducted this year and no one would bat an eye. Replace Lil Wayne with Eminem and their guess for 2031 could easily be this year's class. Just a reminder of how big the backlog is.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 13:53pm


Like i said guys, i won't give out any predictions until we get close to hearing the announcement of nominees for 2022. Because i don't want to spoil & wait to early to give those out. I might respond to your picks.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:05pm


Michael W,

You're way off on Eminem for 2031, by this year he'll be an FYE inductee. That didn't stop acts like Jay - Z, Tupac & Biggie from doing so. So Richie's on point for Lil Wayne for 2031.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:12pm


Jordan,

I think Michael's point was that those other artists (Blink, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, Bangles, Kool & The Gang) could just as easily be part of this years class as ten years from now, not that it would take Eminem ten years to get in.

Posted by RG on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:27pm


Just for fun, if that list Richie posted were to be 100% correct and you got to attend one, and only one, of those 10 induction ceremonies, which would you choose?

I think I'd choose 2029, Maiden, Kanye, Beyonce and DMB are all amazing live acts and Diana Ross is a straight up legend. No Doubt doesn't do much for me but everyone else would be great. 2022, 2027, and 2030 would be my runners-up.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:28pm


RG is correct. I'm not moving Eminem to 2031, I'm saying if you moved those other five to this year no one would complain about that class. Eminem is a stone cold lock for this year.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:30pm


Plebeian,

Your predictions are not so bad but there's no way that RATM, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden & Jane's Addiction would be nominated again at the same time as they'll split the overall voting. Maybe Soundgarden & Iron Maiden should be nominated again for 2023 & 24 respectively, i don't know about Jane's Addiction. I would rather see The Monkees for induction under AME since the last 60's act was inducted in 2019 & haven't seen one since, same could be said for Dionne Warwick. Sparks would end up being inducted under Early Influence like Kraftwerk in which they have been nominated more than 5 times as performers. The Bees, Duran Duran & Eurythmics would be an interesting pack but i said the same thing for RATM, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden & Jane's Addiction so it would apply for the three also DD is going to get more votes & would likely be inducted. Eric B & Rakim would eventually go through the LL Cool J route, same could be said for Chaka Khan too.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:30pm


Performer
Eminem - feels like a lock to headline the class
Missy Elliot - her influence is kind of at its peak atm so I think she'll ride it in
Outkast - I think it'll be a heavy rap year and that voters having gone with Em and Missy will want to make the class kind of a celebration
The Monkees - with Micky Dolenz being the only guy left I think there will be a sentimental push
Iron Maiden - shut up metal fans
New Order/Joy Division - with Kraftwerk, Nine Inch Nails, and Depeche Mode I think they'll want to add another of the big synth innovators

Early Influence
Frank Sinatra - obviously a longtime hangover
Gram Parsons and Link Wray - with Kraftwerk and Gil Scott-Heron having kicked in the door for pop to be counted here, I think the hall will start inducting more 50s and 60s acts here

Award for Musical Excellence
Dolly Parton - way too beloved, prob a push to see her go in before death

Ahmet Ertegun Award
Ryan Schreiber - Pitchfork changed the game for music criticism, promotion, fandom, and even the sound

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 14:51pm


sorry also wanted to list nominees but hit submit before typing it cause brain blah

Other Nominees
Wu-Tang Clan
Jethro Tull
Sean Combs
Soundgarden
Shania Twain
De La Soul
The Guess Who
Rage Against the Machine

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:17pm


KING JANUARY 2022 Final Nominations List RRHOF (20).
I've decided to finalize my list now in January 2022. Don't see it changing much. Here's the KING 20.
1. Smashing Pumpkins
2. Lenny Kravitz
3. Duran Duran
4. Pat Benatar
5. Judas Priest
6. Kool & The Gang
7. Soundgarden
8. Bryan Adams
9. Gram & Emmylou Harris
10. Chaka Khan/Rufus
11. Bad Company
12. The Eurythmics
13. Iron Maiden
14. Diana Ross
15. Eminem
16. Motley Crue
17. Rage Against The Machine
18. X
19. Procol Harum
20. DEVO

Some very difficult cuts with Foreigner, Mariah Carey, Scorpions, and The Black Crowes. I would say some KING FAVS. Giving up on the Willie Nelson nomination. They could move Gram Parsons to a Special Award. I see some good support for The B-52's but I'm waiting another year. With Kraftwerk inducted, I'm not sure where to go in that genre. My guess DEVO will be nominated again. The Monkees are another group with some support here. I just never listened much to their music. Blue Oyster Cult and The Guess Who are 2 I would love to see inducted. I haven't heard much buzz for either. DMB could be brought back for a 2nd nomination.

EARLY INFLUENCE (3)
CONNIE FRANCIS
MC5
THE SONICS

MUSICAL EXCELLENCE (3)
CHAKA KHAN
CHIC
PETER, PAUL, AND MARY

I'm still surprised Peter, Paul & Mary has never been nominated. With these special awards, it could be a good chance for PPM. My guess Link Wray will be inducted somehow as he has support on the Committee. This should be the year Chaka Khan is inducted in some fashion. With these special awards, I could see Chic being inducted as they have been nominated 11 times. Steve Winwood I would love to see him inducted Solo. Perhaps Traffic is sufficient for now. Ben E. King may be inducted Solo later on. I've always loved The Sonics sound. They definitely were ahead of their time. It's amazing how they still can be that powerful and talented in their 70's. Excellent group. Should be inducted.

KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:27pm


Apparently, Calvin Simon is now dead. I can't find any major news outlets reporting it, but I'll trust Joe S.

So far two Inductees (Calvin Simon and Norman Thrasher) have died since the ceremony.

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 22/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive (56%), and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 14 or 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson. It is unknown if Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive or dead.)
2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 16/19 (Cowboy, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 15:34pm


Mat,

Missy won't be eligible until 2023. OutKast & Eminem won't be inducted at the same year, only one of them (Eminem) would be an guarantee for an upcoming induction. Sean Combs? Again, won't be eligible until 2023 like Elliott. The Monkees would be inducted under AME since the Hall is done with the 60's, same could be said for the Guess Who. Wu - Tang Clan & De La Soul, there's no way we would have 5 or 6 rap acts being nominated let alone inducted. Nobody is champion Shania Twain for an honor so I doubt I'll happen anytime soon. As for the rest, it's a hit or miss.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 16:12pm


Hey jordan

I've read a lot of mixed things about her and combs year of eligibility (either 22 or 23) and am leaning to 2022. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

60s i don't think they're done with yet and i do think they'll maximize rap largely due to the eminem factor (i really do think there will be forces at play here to make a statement with rap cause he's probably going to headline and he is a gamechanger for the hall, also they did just have 2 rap acts - 3 if you count gil - go in so i think there is a shift of sorts coming). Shania i do think is an outsider but i kind of am expecting a rise is pop country being on the radar soon

Posted by Mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 17:26pm


Follower:

I got the news of Calvin Simon's (of Parliament/Funkadelic) death from Wikipedia; since then, I found it on soultracks.com.

Posted by Joe S. on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 17:31pm


Mat

Thanks for your response, Both Elliott & Combs had released their debut in '97 so technically they will be eligible for 2023 ceremony, Eminem released his in '96 so he's eligible this year. The reason why i said that the 60's are done is mostly because some of the acts from that decade waited a long time to get inducted in recent years & that is creating a logjam for most of the 80's & 90's acts waiting for inclusion. Shania Twain yes she's pop country but as you see we rarely have country artists in the Hall & considering the fact that there's Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton etc not even nominated, i highly doubt Shania would ever get an nomination let alone induction.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 19:12pm


Hey Jordan

Yes they released their debut albums in 97 but Missy was a feature on about a half dozen or so singles in 96, three of which were mainstream radio hits. I know that usually the Hall goes by album but sometimes they have counted singles or EPs (Grandmaster Flash and Beastie Boys were both eligible due to EPs and singles). I think Missy commercial success off of features on singles might count but I might be wrong. Combs is in a similar boat performer wise as he had a number of features but he's also a little messy because he had a ton of producer and executive credit prior as well. I could definitely be wrong here as again features but we'll see. I'll also just state kind of a weak year for new nominees.

Re 60s: I agree they're mostly done but I get the vibe there's still a desire for some voters to get in those last few as performers (eg Monkees, Jethro Tull). I think we're maybe in the final years of it and that the next 3 to 4 years will be clashes of the final 60s figures vs. 80s and 90s stars. AFME and Early Influence are definitely going to become the norm for 60s acts soon I think.

Re Shania: There's been a bit of a reassessment of Shania in recent years and women in country as a whole by younger critics. Given her commercial success and influence, I think she could be a nominee but yea not an inductee. Dolly I think is far more likely to go in than her and Dolly I think gets in via the AFME so yea no way Shania is getting in but I wouldn't be shocked if she pops up as a nominee once or twice over the next decade. This year being kinda weak I think supports her likelihood.

Posted by mat R on Friday, 01/7/2022 @ 23:32pm


Jordan,
I also for me 60s i don't think they're done with yet. It's just limited. Dionne Warwick was nominated last year. She certainly started in the 60s. She missed induction because she leans to Easy Listening quite a bit. But the Monkees I think will be nominated on the Performer list this year. They are firmly part of Rock n'Roll. And could rather easily be inducted, Let's make sure they are nominated first. Other nominees for the 60s in near future could be Dionne Warwick again, Joe Cocker, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Blue Cheer, Procol Harum and Quicksilver Messenger Service. and Nick Drake. Those maybe. But the 60s acts will be dead for good for Performers around 2026.
Nobody is screaming out for Shania Twain for an honor so I doubt this will happen anytime soon. Hit or miss on a lot of possibilities .

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 03:53am


I think we're getting pretty close on the 60s. Obviously anyone could be nominated, but there just aren't many artists left from that era that I could see making it through on any ballot.

For me, the list of 60s acts that could get in on a regular ballot (and I think will be nominated soon) is Dionne Warwick, The Monkees, Jethro Tull, and Cher. Dolly Parton and Willie Nelson if they decide to start putting country crossover acts on the ballot.

MC5 and Joe Cocker will certainly be side category candidates, and I could see the side categories being used for some of the outstanding R&B artists of the era - Spinners, Marvelettes, Mary Wells, etc.

I'm sorry but I just don't see it ever happening for bands like Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Blue Cheer. There are just so many artists that are much, much higher priority and these bands are so far from any kind of public knowledge or zeitgeist in the world of 2022.

Posted by RG on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 09:42am


Follower:

Glouster "Nat" Rogers is apparently alive.

After seeing your post, I looked on the website for Little Anthony and the Imperials. There was no information about Rogers, so I left an inquiry asking if he was alive. Their tour manager sent this reply:

He is and doing well. Thanks for your question.
Sent from my iPhone
Julie Barrett
Tour manager
Little Anthony and The Imperials

Ms. Barrett also left a phone numbe, which I will not reproduce here. I thought you would like to know.

Posted by Joe S. on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 10:34am


I think the Monkees are on the short list. I'm kind of thinking Jethro Tull and BST could be construed as 70s since their music peak happened at the turn of the decade. Why has no one mentioned the Guess Who? And, like Tina Turner, I think Cher goes into more recent decades as well.

They aren't done with the 60s for awhile. As main inductees, maybe soon, but there is just too much out there still in influence they haven't gotten. Willie Nelson is an obvious one, but is Patsy Cline in the RRHOF in any capacity? I don't believe she is, and she is a definite Early Influence.

Just a couple thoughts

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 15:53pm


Ok, here's a fun one: Inductees turning a new decade this year! (If all goes well)

Turning 50 this year:
Taylor Hawkins and all three members of Green Day (and Eminem since his induction is a forgone conclusion)

Turning 60 this year:
Axl Rose
David Bryan
Jon Bon Jovi
Izzy Stradlin
Jack Irons
Vivian Campell
Flea
Anthony Keidis
Kirk Hammet
Matt Cameron

Turning 70 this year:
Paul Stanley
Michael McDonald
Brad Whitford
Ernie Isley
David Byrne
Marky Ramone
Nile Rogers
Greg Hawks
David Knopfler

Turning 80 this year:
Graham Nash
Carole King
John Cale
Alan Price
Paul McCartney
Brian Wilson
Claudette Rogers Robinson
Roger McGuinn
Al Jardine
Elvin Bishop
Bob Gaudio
Felix Cavaliere
Dave Clark
Andy Summers

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 16:32pm


Hey K-Dawg

I had the Guess Who listed as a nominee but I don't think they're a Hall of Fame act anymore. Like they had some big hits but I get the sense they've kind of become a footnote or forgotten for most outside of Canada aside from "American Woman," partly cause Bachman and Cummings lost control of the name. Randy Bachman however feels like a strong AFME type. His footprint is very large between the Guess Who and BTO plus his solo hits in Canada and radio work with CBC. You could maybe make the case for Burton Cummings also being there but his solo stuff was never as big as BTO stateside.

Posted by Mat R on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 18:42pm


K-Dawg,

Patsy Cline would be one of my top Early Influence picks!

Posted by RG on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 19:25pm


What are your final predictions for the 2022 nominees before they are likely announced in February?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/8/2022 @ 21:32pm


RG,
That's correct, Obviously anyone could be nominated, but there just aren't many artists left from that era that I could see either being inducted on any ballot.

MC5 and Joe Cocker will certainly be side category candidates, I do agree eventually. These are just as nominees. That's what we are focused on here.
I just don't see it ever happening for bands like Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Blue Cheer either as inductees, BUT as nominees sure they can be on a ballot. There is a distinct difference between nominee list and Inductees. Yes Yes there is artists that are much much higher priority and these bands are so far from any kind of public knowledge and limelight in 2022. BUT I only think these will be nominees, I'm intentionally thinking of artists that are NOT popular anymore. Those 3 above are great bands of the 60s I know about. Just to be clear they have NO chance as regular inductees. Every single year there is nominees that can NEVER make it. I was NOT talking about Inductees at all. Dionne Warwick was just nominated for 2021. She did NOT make it at all. And this year I predict her as Early Influence. All 3 above B, S and Tears, Quicksilver, B Cheer will eventually be Early influence. DO NOT confuse them as Inductees in Next Couple years NO way. I think of them as Only nominees. I always think of Nominees that will Fail.
I think the Monkees can be the LAST inductee of the 60s. They had the super famous TV show and 3 of them are now dead. The focus is =definitely 1980s and 90s. Ahhh But the 1970s is still viable for a long time

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 03:40am


RG,
This continues from the last Post. Lets talk about the 1970s. This is still VIable for years to come. This is the Center of a lot of my Roots. The days when Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Yes, ELO, Steve Miller Band, T Rex, Bill Withers, Diana Ross and others of all kinds were big. For this year I predict Jethro Tull. Some are calling them 60s but their first 2 albums were already 1969. Benefit was already 1970. Thick as a Brick was huge in 1972. Etc etc. Another favorite of mine is Songs from the Wood.
I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present.
Carly Simon, Warren Zevon, Jim Croce and Dolly Parton will be nominated. These are as performers.
Other Rock acts that will surely be nominated are Bad Company, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Joe Walsh maybe, Foreigner and Toto. The 70s are Alive, Not near death like the 60s. There is a bunch of R&b in the 70s too that will be nominated I would think. The Commodores, Kool &the Gang,

Lets stick with 1970s discussion longer than 60s. 1970s people will be nominated and Inducted for many years. Even in 2032 someone 70s will be getting in

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 06:12am


I agree that the Spinners, Kool and the Gang and Foreigner should be in inducted. Although, I want Tool to be nominated.

Posted by Stacey Schultz on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 07:14am


2022 Nominees
Pat Benatar/Neil Geraldo
Eminem
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Jan And Dean
Bad Company
Kurtis Blow
Scorpions
Motorhead
Tommy James & The Shondells
Thin Lizzy
Mariah Carey
"Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kool & The Gang
Pantera

Posted by Gary J Skadra on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:12am


2022 Nominees
Pat Benatar/Neil Geraldo
Eminem
Judas Priest
Foreigner
Jan And Dean
Bad Company
Bryan Adams
Kurtis Blow
Scorpions
Motorhead
Tommy James & The Shondells
Thin Lizzy
Mariah Carey
"Screamin' Jay Hawkins
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kool & The Gang
Pantera

Posted by Gary J Skadra on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:16am


Motley Crue
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Bryan Adams
Pat Benetar
Eurythmics
…and if there was an artist that epitomizes what rock and roll is all about…George Thorogood

Posted by PK on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 08:46am


How is he not in the HOF?

Posted by Joe Cocker on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 21:30pm


Here's my final predictions for 2022:

Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Mariah Carey
Cher
The Commodores
Duran Duran
Eminem
The Fugees
Iron Maiden
The Monkees
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus with Chaka Khan
Soundgarden
Sparks
Dionne Warwick

Posted by Ian on Sunday, 01/9/2022 @ 21:43pm


RG, Plebeian and Greg F,

Assuming six acts per class and ten more years, Who do you see being the 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030 and 2031 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 00:25am


Richie, damn dude. Even for you, it's too much...

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 01:08am


Man, enough with the questions!

Posted by Joe on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 01:38am


RG,
I would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I =m sure we started yet. The 1970s era is great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. I mentioned Jethro Tull, I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present.
Carly Simon, Warren Zevon, Jim Croce and Dolly Parton will be nominated. These are as performers. I also would add the singer/songsriters Harry Nillson, Roberta Flack and Nick Drake, These can all be Nominated, But only Carly Simon and Warren Zevon will make it as Inductees, Not really much chance of the others to win an inductee spot. Regular Rock acts I add are Kansas, Little Feat, Mott the Hoople, Robin Trower, Big Star, Thin Lizzy, Edgar Winter Group, Blue Oyster Cult and Supertramp. What do you think?

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 03:48am


Follower,

If your goal with the birthday milestone list was to make me feel old, then you have succeeded. Axl Rose and Flea are 60 this year?!?! Good lord!

Posted by Michael W. on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 07:59am


Today is January 10, 2022. In 21 days, Lobsterfest will begin and in 24 days, I will be 60 years old. By the way, I have been thinking about my list of nominees during most of this past weekend and although I really like my list; I think that it could always be better. How you may ask? By having a list where only a few incidental male artists (who are connected to the major artist) may appear. In other words, a list with mostly deserving female artists.

Could we help to achieve more parity in the Rock Hall by nominating such a list?


Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 08:18am


I'm not answering any questions about future inductees because I'd rather see an official ballot first. Any other questions asked about this subject will ignored.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 10:56am


One name I haven't seen much and I'm kind of curious about is Daft Punk. They're definitely outsiders but they're also a quite big name that's been a snub for a few years now and their break up last year kind of framed them as one of if not the most influential acts on the modern sound of pop music. In addition with Kraftwerk all now in, they're arguably the most important synth artist not in their other than New Order. With the way the hall is believed to play politics and seeks to appeal, do you think there's a chance there is a push to nominate and maybe induct Daft Punk in 2022?

Posted by Mat R on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:21pm


If the RRHOF won't induct Kraftwerk through the committee and have to do it through side channels, Daft Punk doesn't stand a chance at this point. They will get in eventually, but I predict through ME.

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:27pm


RG, Plebeian and Jordan Einstein,

Assuming six acts per class and ten more years, Who do you see being the 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030 and 2031 inductees?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 12:53pm


Richie,

I'm not answering that until we're close to hearing the official ballot & then i'll give out my answers. As i said before, i won't give out any predictions until we hear about the nominees. Does anyone know when the announcements for 2022 will actually come, is it this month or next month? I just wanted to make sure.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:58pm


Again with more questions, really? You can't really predict future classes without seeing a ballot first.

Posted by Joe on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:59pm


Hey K-Dawg

That's a fair assessment regarding time but the big difference between Daft Punk and all the other synth acts is that Daft Punk went super mainstream in America so I don't know is ME is the most likely avenue for them. We're talking Grammy wins for Album of the Year, reaching the top of the pop and albums charts and having everyone from LCD Soundsystem to Kanye West pretty aggressively citing them as an influence. I think they're in a similar position to Nine Inch Nails rather than Kraftwerk.

Posted by Mat R on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 13:59pm


It was February last year so it will likely be the same this year.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 21:57pm


Alright then, i'll talk to y'all next month when we hear the announcements but for now i'm off. See ya!

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 22:23pm


RG,
I would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I'm sure we started yet. The 1970s era is a great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. I mentioned Jethro Tull, I also think in the next few years singer/songwriters of the 1970s will be very present. You are one of the perfect people to discuss this with. Let's get started with that. But this would be my last attempt at this I think. I'm hoping you could rev up some 70s talk. Or anyone else could. King or anyone else.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/10/2022 @ 23:38pm


RG,
I tried twice to write what I'm trying to say. I told you most. would like to continue our discussion about the 1970s. I'm NOT NOT SURE we started yet. The 1970s era is a great era to talk about. Its alive and well unlike the 60s which is in its last years on Performer lists. LETS Talk about the 70s! It would be cool.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 02:19am


The 70s has a problem much like the 60s has. Most of the 70s acts that are in seem to be of the rock variety. The influence of the voting body is heavy and present here. The thing about this decade was, in my estimation, the real beginning of the splintering of genres becoming more specialized towards different listening audiences. R and B/funk became a major smash and was also the precursor to the genre that some still scream with horror about, the mirror balled disco craze. Also, there are many folk singers who were kind of overshadowed compared to their 60s counterparts. It's not a solo factor, but I suspect with Woodstock and the hippie/antiwar movement dying down, they got lost in the shuffle. AM rock is classic stuff, but only a couple groups like Steely Dan are really recognized.

At the same time, the 70s all around probably are the decade most people today consider the maturing of what we got in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. The fact there are SO many acts that could still get consideration, both rock and other genres. I am especially critical of the fact we haven't seen the Spinners, Commodores, Ohio Players, or many other funk and R/B representations to this point. I mean, we have the Isley Brothers, Earth Wind and Fire and the O'Jays. It's pretty disheartening that the 70s acts we get lately are the Doobie Brothers ilk--nothing inherently wrong, and a strong case can be made for them, but it seems that this very influential decade is saturated mostly with classic rock staples/rockist faves. The 80s, by comparison to this point, has become much more diverse the past few years. But, that's a conversation for a whole other topic.

Ben, I hope this is part of what you were hoping for. I would appreciate your feedback

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 03:49am


K Dawg,
I see what happened. I did Not get to R&B fast enough. I mentioned Singer/Songwriters like Carly Simon and Regular Rock. I like these 2 genres the most. But I was mentioning R&B Next. Thats why I wanted this discussion. For those 3 genres. As I originally planned R&B now enters discussion. Although I'm a huge Rocker I own and Love a significant amount of R&B. I love the Spinners and Kool & the Gang I consider Very good. I have rallied for 8 years for the Spinners to be inducted. In Fact the Spinners have a much better chance than Chic since the Induction of Nile Rodgers. He is an enormous talent BUT I think this eliminates Chic. I also Love some Commodores, Ohio Players, Diana Ross. Rufus is Ok. These are likely but are kinda ignored. You are Right. But maybe the Hall will solve this. Diana Ross and the Spinners need to be inducted, They are in danger of being dead. Diana R is in good health. I think. She gave gave good concerts back in the 1970s. 70s were good to Diana Ross. Diana had a lot of hits. Theme from Mahogany and It's My House stand out. I own these. I threw in Diana because left her out. Heyy you couldnt think of everyone in Old R&B. Its your turn. Go ahead

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 06:12am


K Dawg,
That should be a cool response with R&B of the 1970s. I will also add the great Harold Melvyn & the Bluenotes and War, I must include those too. Don't forget to mention Diana Ross in your response. She has a huge chance for her Solo

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 08:39am


I'm surprised that the 1970's still have several music artists and groups awaiting induction. An interesting decade. I was hoping Procol Harum would earn more support after The Zombies induction. This hasn't happened. PH crafted many brilliant compositions and songs that stand the test of time. A Whiter Shade Of Pale, Conquistador, Crucification Lane, Pandora's Box, Salty Dog, Simple Sister, Strong As Samson etc. Foreigner had a string of platinum albums and a strong decade run into the later 1980's. Many Classic Songs: Cold As Ice, I Want To Know What Love Is, Hot Blooded, Jukebox Hero, Urgent, Waiting For A Girl Like You, etc. Lou Gramm is 1 of the top vocalists of his era. Blue Oyster Cult is another group that deserves a nomination and induction. They fill in many spots as a nominee. Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Metal, 70's Rock. Also, have a few memorable Hits like Burnin' For You, Don't Fear The Reaper and Godzilla. Bad Company is a head-scratcher as they had a string of 1970's successful gold and platinum albums and still had success without Paul Rodgers. It shows it just wasn't a Paul Rodgers production. My guess Diana Ross will be nominated as a Solo artist this year or next. Carole King, Stevie Nicks & Tina Turner have been recent women 2x Inductees. Kool & The Gang might be nominated this year or soon. They have had a long 50+:year run in the music industry. I'm partial to Misled and Tonight. Outstanding group. Celebration is 1 of those songs that is a classic. Birthdays, Parties, Sports Teams winning...It's played many times . WAR probably will be moved into that Special Category maybe Musical Excellence. They have been nominated at least 3x. I agree on The Spinners. They have a great sound and the vocals and arrangements are well-done. Rubberband Man stands out. Cupid is 1 of the best vocals. On point. I'd like to see Emmylou Harris inducted. She has had a long distinguished career collaborating with Gram Parsons, Mark Knopfler, The Band and many others. EH would have the votes needed. Lionel Richie is interesting as he could be a 2x Inductee with The Commodores & Solo. His time for nomination should be soon. J. Geils Band is still floating around. I think they have been nominated 5x. Definitely will earn 1 of those Special Awards. Peter Wolf is respected in the music industry. A shame Mr Geils passed a few years ago. MC5 as well. They can't seem to muster enough votes. I could go on but some others can jump in about other artists and 70's groups who are deserving of RRHOF.
KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 09:36am


King,
Ahhh Great post. WAR probably will be moved into that Special Category maybe Musical Excellence. I would say so. They have been nominated at least 3x for sure. I figured you'd agree on The Spinners. Rubberband Man is the best one Cupid is 1 of the best vocals. Yeahhh . I'd like to see Emmylou Harris inducted. She has had a long distinguished career collaborating with a lot of people. EH would have the votes needed. Lionel Richie is interesting BUT I think just with The Commodores . . J. Geils Band is still floating around. Yesss they have been nominated 5x. Definitely will earn 1 of those Special Awards. Peter Wolf is respected in the music industry. Mr J Geils passed a few years ago. MC5 as well. They can't seem to muster enough votes Veryyy true. I think King Crimson could get Musical Excellence this year. Its just a feeling. King Crimson have been around 52 years

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 09:49am


My hopes for 2022 nominees:
Carly Simon
Pat Benatar
The Bangles
Kate Bush
Tori Amos
Cyndi Lauper
Chaka Khan
The Runaways
Carole King
Gram Parsons
Warren Zevon
Llowell George
Bad Company
Tommy James & the Shondells
The MONKEES
Cher

Posted by Brenda on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 12:11pm


Ben and KING,

What of the folk singers/AM rock of the 70s? Paul Revere and the Raiders is not a name you hear often, but do you think they stand a chance?

Carly Simon, Harry Nilsson, there are others out there I'm missing. Seals and Croft, if they are going to do that silly songs category-- "Summer Breeze" is timeless. Even someone as obscure as Captain&Tennille?

These aren't necessarily RRHOF worthy (although I say Simon and Nilsson should both have been in long ago), but there is more folk and AM rock stuff coming to memory every time I postulate here...

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 13:23pm


Captain & Tennille aren't exactly 'obscure'. They had a hit TV variety show for awhile back in 70s.

I think they have not hardly any chance, but they were not obscure back in their heyday.

I think Carly Simon will get in sometime. The rest, nope.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 14:43pm


Let me make this a grammatically correct triple negative:

I think they don't have not hardly any chance, but they were not obscure back in their heyday.

Fixed!!

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 14:45pm


I would think that so many good artists are not in the The Rock Hall
Twila Paris had her first album in 1965 and has had some rock/pop in her music since the 1980s
Pat Benatar had most of her albums in the rock vein since 1979 with one album being jump blues
Michael Sweet was in both Boston and Stryper that did versions of Peace Of Mind
Jim Steinman has had people do versions of songs he wrote since 1973 including The Everly Brothers
Mutt Lange has done a lot of work on a lot of albums
All I can ask is why are they not in?
Hope for good inductees in 2022

Posted by jim lively on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 15:15pm


Paul in KY,

I never don't not hate seeing your posts...very insightful.

(Hope I got that right)

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 16:13pm


RG, Ben and K-Dawg,

The only 60's and 70's acts that I feel have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point are Bad Company, Boston, Cher, Joe Cocker, The Commodores, Jim Croce, Foreigner, Jethro Tull, The Monkees, Willie Nelson, New York Dolls, Harry Nilsson, Gram Parsons, Dolly Parton, Diana Ross, Carly Simon, The Spinners, Dionne Warwick, Barry White and Warren Zevon. And a few are a big maybe.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 17:55pm


Richie,

I commend you on joining the conversation. And very good answer!

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 18:32pm


K-Dawg,

Thank You! and also, I forgot to mention Thin Lizzy in my last post regarding which 60's and 70's acts have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point, so I'll add them to my list as well.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 19:54pm


Well you see. When I bring the 70s to the discussion there is a lot more of a discussion, Bad Company, Jim Croce, Harry Chapin, Foreigner, WIllie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Barry White and the Stylistics. These I think are other artists of the 70s that should absolutely be nominated, Not sure who of these can be inducted but ceratinly Nominated

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/11/2022 @ 23:50pm


I think the list is a bit more comprehensive than just the names listed. The Hall could go in numerous directions. No one has even mentioned Kansas (not counting Enig), Styx, Supertramp, Gloria Gaynor, the Pointer Sisters, Jimmy Buffet, and countless others I am definitely missing.

The 60s may be about done (PLEASE put the Monkees in finally), but I think the 70s have a bit to go. And, with the trends the RRHOF always does, I see them being on the list long into the time the 2000s and even the 2010s are considered.

On a side note, did Don Cornelius get his Influence nom yet? Put the man in!!!

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 00:10am


K-Dawg,
I see you know your stuff on R&b. I would be remiss to skip Pointer Sisters. Not Gloria Gaynor though. She is mainly known just for I Will Survive. Ahh but Pointer Sisters. They have lots of hits and albums.
Don Cornelius did NOT get his influence spot yet. With influence Noms arent needed people just get inducted direct by the Hall members. Don C needs to go in. Another act could be the Manhattans. I think between us we've named most of the 70s R&B that can be nominated.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 03:10am


LaBelle has an outside chance as well. Since I'm dwelling on it, a couple more are Roberta Flack, Peabo Bryson (not sure if he's 70s or 80s), and again, I will point out the forgotten children, The Ohio Players.

Thanks for the words of compliment, Ben. I try to be a fan of music of all decades, with the usual exception of a lot of country.

And lastly, do the Meters count as 70s in this argument?

Great discussion. This is enjoyable.

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 04:25am


K-Dawg,
Yes the Meters do count as 70s. They did Not emerge until 1969. So most of their is 70s. If an act starts success in 1969 and then release albums for 7 more years or whatever then they are 70s. I think the Meters had albums until about 1978. This discussion has been cool.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 08:11am


I'd like to throw one more 70's artist out there that I don't think anyone had mentioned yet: Big Star. They didn't have the commercial success of the other artists you guys have mentioned, but their level of influence is on par with T. Rex, and Alex Chilton is a pretty iconic figure. R.E.M. and the Replacements are the most notable bands influenced by them, but they also impacted acts ranging from KISS to the Bangles to Wilco among others. They're one of the progenitors of alternative rock and power pop and definitely expanded the boundaries of what rock music could sound like in their day.

Posted by Michael W. on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:07am


Michael W,

Thank You! I had completely forgotten about Big Star as well, So I'll also add them to my list of acts from the 60's and 70's that I feel have a chance of getting in as Performers at this point as well.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:15am


Thin Lizzy -One of the most underrated drummers in the history of Rock n Roll-Brian Downey
The late Phil Lynott- Black father/ Irish mother Frontman who wrote and sang all the songs and could play bass as well.
Scott Gorham-American who was the start of having 2 lead guitar players along with
Brian Robertson-from Scotland.
The late Gary Moore from Northern Ireland who filled in when needed and made them the best line up.
Less we not forget Eric Bell , and the other members who played keyboards or guitar during different periods.

Posted by David Patrick McDonnell on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 10:22am


The Ohio Players! Funk pioneers emulated by many but never equaled.

Posted by Jack R Marchbanks on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 16:51pm


RIP Ronnie Spector :(

Posted by RG on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 16:57pm


The only pre 2010 class where it's easier to list the living members has gained another dead member, unfortunately. At least we know now that Glouster "Nat" Rogers is alive.

So far four Inductees (Grahame Edge, Norman Thrasher, Calvin Simon, and Ronnie Spector) have died since the ceremony.

Living Members of Each Class, 1986-2009 (except 2007, since in that case it's still easier to list the 4 dead members. If anyone thinks that it's easier to list the living members of any of the other classes, let me know.)

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 22/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive (56%), and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 7/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Don Wilson, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Glouster "Nat" Rogers, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson.)
2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.) This is 40%, by the way.

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 15/19 (Cowboy, Ronnie Spector, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 17:19pm


Sorry about my mistake earlier. If anyone thinks for any pre-2010 class it is easier to list the dead members than the living ones, let me know.

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 17:22pm


R.I.P. Ronnie Spector

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 18:42pm


RIP Ronnie Spector. I mainly know her for And so the hit Be My Baby with the Ronettes. I do know the Ronettes opened for the Rolling Stones around 1964 or 65. She worked with Bruce Springsteen I think. And so another death,

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/12/2022 @ 19:28pm


The Ronettes are now one of the groups with only one surviving inducted member; here they are:

The Supremes (Diana Ross)
The Drifters (Charlie Thomas)
The Temptations (Otis Williams)
The Four Tops (Abdul "Duke" Fakir)
Ike and Tina Turner (Tina Turner)
Cream (Eric Clapton)
The Bee Gees (Barry Gibb)
The Mamas and The Papas (Michelle Philips)
The Staple Singers (Mavis Staples)
Ramones (Marky Ramone)
Righteous Brothers (Bill Medley)
The Ronettes (Nedra Talley)
The Ventures (Don Wilson)
T. Rex (Bill Legend)

Posted by Follower on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 03:17am


The thing about me with the Ronettes, they are just before the earliest era of my extensive knowledge. I basically know Ronnie Spector as the Be My Baby lady. That's a far cry from my extensive knowledge of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Animals, Dave Clark Five, Bob Dylan Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs and Paul Revere and the Raiders, I mention that last because someone mentioned them. And of course I know a bunch about Lovin Spoonful with Summer in the City, Daydream, Nashville Cats, Those were all Top 10 hits around 1966. Thats as old as I get. Hey in 2022 thats Old enough. But the Ronettes I really just know Be My Baby. I will be 57. I'm lucky to have my knowledge of the ones above. I do think the Ronettes opened for the Rolling Stones. A band I do know a bunch about. I told my fiancee that Ronnie Spector died. She does Not even know who this is. She is also 57.She did some work with Bruce S and Steve Van Zant, And so RIP Ronnie Spector.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 04:11am


Fela Kuti should be inducted in the most wives category not the Rock Hall

Posted by Steve Berg on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 10:12am


Fela Kuti should be inducted in the most wives category not the Rock Hall

Posted by Steve Berg on Thursday, 01/13/2022 @ 10:14am


RG and Plebeian,

Joe and Kristen of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast have made their predictions for the next 15 induction classes and their predictions are:

2022: Eminem, Pat Benatar, Duran Duran, Mariah Carey, The B-52's and Soundgarden.

2023: OutKast, Dionne Warwick, Joy Division/New Order, Foreigner, George Michael and Cher.

2024: Coldplay, Lauryn Hill, The Smiths, Rage Against The Machine, Eurythmics and Snoop Dogg.

2025: Missy Elliott, Cyndi Lauper, Beck, Jethro Tull, Devo and Roberta Flack.

2026: Judas Priest, Carly Simon, The Commodores, Salt-N-Pepa, Phil Collins and Weezer.

2027: Alicia Keys, Patti LaBelle, Smashing Pumpkins, Wu-Tang Clan, The White Stripes and INXS.

2028: Justin Timberlake, Mary J. Blige, Sheryl Crow, Motley Crue, Pixies and TLC.

2029: Beyoncé, Kanye West, No Doubt, Iron Maiden, Diana Ross and Dave Matthews Band.

2030: The Killers, Rihanna, A Tribe Called Quest, Oasis, Motorhead and Alanis Morissette.

2031: Blink-182, Lil Wayne, Jane's Addiction, Fiona Apple, The Bangles and Kool & The Gang.

2032: Taylor Swift, The Strokes, Amy Winehouse, Dr. Dre, Kate Bush and Alice In Chains.

2033: Adele, Daft Punk, Nas, Aaliyah, Thin Lizzy and Stone Temple Pilots.

2034: Lady Gaga, Usher, Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine, Vampire Weekend, Busta Rhymes and The Replacements.

2035: Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Britney Spears, LCD Soundsystem, Destiny's Child and Sting.

2036: Bruno Mars, Nicki Minaj, John Mayer, Arcade Fire, Bjork and Linkin Park.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 20:43pm


I think Linkin Park will get in 10 years before they predicted. I actually think they will probably be inducted in their first year of eligibility.
I also think Blink-182 will get in earlier than 2030. Certainly earlier than Sheryl Crow or Alicia Keys.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:38pm


Also, Iron Maiden and Priest will get in in a couple years. Just wait.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:39pm


I also predict, of bands from the 2000's, My Chemical Romance I predict will get in the 2030's. Maybe not in their first year of eligibility, but I do think they will get in around 2033 or 2034.

Posted by Henry on Friday, 01/14/2022 @ 21:43pm


Troy L. Smith and co. revamped their tier lists with some new criteria and included more recent inductees.

I'll be listing them all here, in order of how many points they got.

Tier I, The Pantheon (700 or more points):

The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Presley, Led Zeppelin, U2, Madonna, Aretha Franklin, Neil Young, James Brown and the Famous Flames, Prince, Michael Jackson, Ray Charles, The Who, Radiohead, The Beach Boys, and Chuck Berry.

Tier II, Legends and Icons (699-500 points):

Bob Marley, R.E.M., Pink Floyd, Miles Davis, The Clash, Stevie Wonder, Johnny Cash, The Kinks, Marvin Gaye, Little Richard, Joni Mitchel, Nirvana, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Velvet Underground, Van Morrison, The Byrds, and Muddy Waters.

Tier III, All Time Greats (499-400 points):

Jay-Z, Elvis Costello and the Attractions, Metallica, Elton John, The Supremes, Sam Cooke, AC/DC, Queen, The Doors, The Band, Talking Heads, Black Sabbath, Beastie Boys, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Waits, Otis Redding, and Ramones.

Tier IV, No-Brainers (399-300):

The Cure, Leonard Cohen, Blondie, Sly and the Family Stone, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Parliament-Funkadelic, Bo Diddley, Depeche Mode, The Temptations, The Police, Janet Jackson, Cream, Fats Domino, Aerosmith, Grateful Dead, Simon & Garfunkel, B.B. King, The Drifters, Eagles, John Lennon, Patti Smith, Al Green, Roxy Music, The Everly Brothers, Guns N Roses, Curtis Mayfield, and Lou Reed.

Tier V, Proven Performers (299-200):

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Eric Clapton, Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, Roy Orbison, Paul Simon, Run-DMC, Jerry Lee Lews, Jackie Wilson, Steely Dan, Frank Zappa, The Yardbirds, Carl Perkins, Janis Joplin, Pearl Jam, Rod Stewart, Eddie Cochran, Bee Gees, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Van Halen, Tupac Shakur, Nina Simone, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Donna Summer, The Shirelles, Randy Newman, Peter Gabriel, Paul McCartney, Jefferson Airplane, Sex Pistols, Deep Purple, The Platters, Tina Turner, Big Joe Turner, Ricky Nelson, Etta James, Dusty Springfield, Whitney Houston, The Four Tops, Bill Hayley & His Comets, ABBA, The Isley Brothers, Nine Inch Nails, The Allman Brothers Band, Genesis, The Ronettes, Santana, The Pretenders, Green Day, Billy Joel, and Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

Tier VI, Best of the Rest (199-100):
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters, The Impressions, Clyde McPhatter, Alice Cooper, Jackson Browne, NWA, ZZ Top, Ruth Brown, Little Willie John, Traffic, John Lee Hooker, James Taylor, Foo Fighters, Dire Straits, The Coasters, Carole King, Rush, T. Rex, Earth Wind, and Fire, The Staple Singers, The Notorious B.I.G., Yes, The Go-Go's, Bonnie Raitt, Ike and Tina Turner, Duane Eddy, Martha and the Vandellas, Bob Seger, The Animals, Wilson Picket, George Harrison, Donovan, Electric Light Orchestra, Cheap Trick, Def Leppard, Linda Ronstadt, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Booker T. and the MG's, Cat Stevens, Jimmy Reed, KISS, Hall and Oats, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, Buffalo Springfield, Dell Shannon, Steve Miller, The Four Seasons, The Cars, Dr. John, SmalFaces/The Faces, The Jackson 5, and Stevie Ray Vaughn & Double Trouble.

Tier VII, Marginal Acts (less than 100):
Jimmy Cliff, Solomon Burke, Neil Diamond, Albert King, The Lovin' Spoonful, The Mama's and the Papa's, The Zombies, Bill Withers, Lavern Baker, The [Young] Rascals, Bon Jovi, Laura Nyro, Sam & Dave, The Righteous Brothers, Isaac Hayes, The O'Jays, Heart, Bobby Darin, Chicago, Joan Baez, Bobby Womack, The Flamingos, John Mellencamp, Todd Rundgren, Journey, Dion, Buddy Guy, Gene Vincent & his Blue Caps, The Doobie Brothers, Jeff Beck, Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers, The Hollies, Ritchie Vales, The Dells, The Moody Blues, Gene Pitney, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Darlene Love, Percy Sledge, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Dave Clark Five, Bobby "Blue" Bland, Lloyd Price, Stevie Nicks, Little Anthony & The Imperials, Brenda Lee, and The Moonglows.

The last two have the least points, with 20. By this metric, Brenda Lee or The Moonglows is the least deserving Hall of Famer.

Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 00:22am


K-Dawg,

You asked What of the folk singers/AM rock of the 70s? Paul Revere and the Raiders is not a name you hear often, thats true. I think they could. They were Notable in the 60s but had a huge hit in 1971 with Indian Reservation. It was number one in July 1971. Unfortunately that was their last big hit. A song called Country Wine never charted high in 1972 and they were done. I read about the song I've never heard it. since they were done by 1972 this stops their chances a lot. But instead there is Three Dog Night. Their first hit was in 1969. This places them much more in the 70s. Their hits Mama Told Me Not to Come and Joy to the World were huge number one hits. Joy to the World was a huge number one song in 1971. Black and White, Shambala and The Show Must Go On were all big hits after. The Show Must Go on took them to 1974. That gives them strength as a 70s band. I'll get back to AM Rock.
You mentioned folk singers. There was plenty of those in the 70s.Carly Simon, Harry Nilsson is 2 great ones. There are others out there youre missing. How about Gordon Lightfoot? Now there is a folk singer of the 70s. He had a bunch .of hits and notable albums. Others are Phoebe Snow, Jim Croce and John Denver. Ok, Its your turn. Please continue if you can.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 04:01am


Nothing stated in the comments above can be considered until REO Speedwagon is nominated and inducted into the RR Hall of Fame! They defined the hundreds of hardworking American heartland rock bands of the 1970s and then broke through them all as the most massive American rock band of the late 70s and 80s. Kevin Cronin and Gary Richrath's intricate songwriting created some of the most beloved songs of the time (Roll with the Changes, Riding the Storm out, Lucky for you, etc.) Gary was one of the top ten best guitarist of the rock era - no matter what Rolling Stone magazine writes in their lists. Watch a live clip from the 70s of him shredding on, Say you love me or say goodnight. Yes, I know there is a schlocky power ballad from 1981 that turned many off, but just ignore that song as I do. Watch some You Tube videos captured in the late 70s - like from the Midnight Special - and you will see one of the most amazing acts on stage performing their hearts out. It's embarrassing that Journey, Cheap Trick and Bon Jovi are in but not REO!

Nominate REO in 2022!!!

Posted by Rob on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 10:32am


Rob,

You are doing something commendable for a band you love. That is great. We typically try to stay away from tangents to convince others here to consider someone for the RRHOF. I have seen REO Speedwagon mentioned a few times here and there, but honestly, they are another good band in a genre saturated with them. They are ordinary by comparison to other, more successful or lauded bands still not in like Bad Company, Foreigner, Boston and Blue Oyster Cult. I'm sorry, I don't see them being HOF worthy. John Cougar Mellencamp did much of the same stuff you mentioned. And, your argument is focused from a personal perspective much too prominently. It's not about one upmanship; there are many examples of acts in that I personally feel don't belong, but they don't go around bashing other bands that are in. And, no offense, but saying "who cares what Rolling Stone says", um Jann Wenner, who created Rolling Stone, has a major hand in this Hall. So, if he doesn't see REO Speedwagon being among the elite, and to me that is truth, then they aren't going to get much support unless there's a groundwell. That's unlikely, and I've SEEN some major movements to get dozens of bands in before them. Your passion and civility is endearing, though

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 12:42pm


You who say that commercial success does not make an artist worthy annoy me. Fame should be defined as when an artist is well-known. Sales should be viewed as a painfully obvious factor, like most people do.

Posted by Garrus on Saturday, 01/15/2022 @ 15:14pm


PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 03:10am


EDITED

PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 03:20am


EDITED

PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 03:21am


Not happening that way, nor should it!

Posted by EDS on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 03:23am


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 16, 2021. In approximately 15 more days, Lobsterfest will begin and in less than 18 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation does not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick



In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait another five billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre. !



Here are the other 10:


11. The B-52s- Kate Person, Cindy Wilson, Fred Schneider and Keith Strickland have been together since 1976.

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lenox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time.

15. Cher-

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews

18. Salt-n-Pepa

19. John Prine

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 11:08am


I think we would finally see a couple of british acts being inducted this year since last year that we didn't see. Heck only Iron Maiden & Kate Bush are the only ones nominated by then & neither of them make the final cut so we would expect the brits being back on the ballot again this time & will subsequently be inducted. What does anyone think?

Posted by Ronald Jenkins on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 11:37am


Follower,

The tiers that they did are very interesting even though i don't agree with some of those tiers. They also did the purge list based on those.

Posted by Ronald Jenkins on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 11:43am


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 16, 2021. In approximately 15 more days, Lobsterfest will begin and in less than 18 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation does not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

11. The B-52s- I found it quite amazing that Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson have been together for almost 46 years.

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick
8. The B-52s



In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait another six trillion nine hundred ninety four billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre.
as a solo artist!



Here are the other 8:

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lenox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time.

15. Cher-

16. Willie Nelson

17. Dave Matthews

18. Salt-n-Pepa

19. John Prine

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 11:43am


PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 13:47pm


PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Pete Best

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 13:47pm


Taking another shot at predictions:
Eminem
Fiona Apple
Pat Benatar
The Monkees
Sparks
Motörhead
Slade
Beck
Fela Kuti
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Scorpions
Joy Division/New Order
Alanis Morissette
Kool and the Gang
Soundgarden

Posted by Raichu on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 14:49pm


Just noticed I predicted Soundgarden twice so I'm switching one of 2 out for Rage Against the Machine

Posted by Raichu on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 14:53pm


PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra
Bing Crosby

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Pete Best

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 21:02pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 16, 2021. In approximately 15 more days, Lobsterfest will begin and in less than 18 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation do not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

11. The B-52s- I found it quite amazing that Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson have been together for almost 46 years.

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick
8. The B-52s



In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait another sixty nine trillion nine hundred ninety nine billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre. as a solo artist!



Here are the other 8:

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lenox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time.

15. Cher- A true music icon for almost 60 years.

16. Willie Nelson- "............................................,.,."

17. Dave Matthews

18. Salt-n-Pepa

19. John Prine

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/16/2022 @ 23:24pm


PRELIMINARY NOMINEES

PERFORMERS
World: Ravi Shankar
Songwriter: Jim Croce
Woman: Diana Ross
Major Artist: Backstreet Boys
Classic Rock: Boston
Rapper: The Sugarhill Gang
Classic Alternative: The B-52's
Nineties: Soundgarden
Fifties: The Diamonds
Soul: The Marvelettes
Sixties: The Monkees
Seventies: Tower of Power
Eighties: Duran Duran
Millennium: The Flaming Lips
Metal: Slipknot
Influencer: Big Mama Thornton
Pioneer: Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Posthumous: Joe Cocker
Folk: Peter, Paul, and Mary
Country: Hank Williams, Jr.
Classic Metal: Motley Crue
Alternative: Pixies
Pop: Britney Spears
Electronic: Daft Punk
Jazz: John Coltrane
Popular Demand: Chubby Checker

EARLY INFLUENCE
Cab Calloway
Louis Prima
Tommy Johnson
Scott Joplin
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Ella Fitzgerald
Frank Sinatra
Bing Crosby

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
Crazy Horse
Steve Miller Band
Big Brother and the Holding Company
The Patti Smith Group
The Belmonts
The Revolution
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Mothers of Invention

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Pete Best

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 01:17am


Since most of the regular posters on FRL seem to be predicting the 2022 R&R HoF nominees and inductees, and it looks like fun, thank you for allowing me to take another shot at it. Consider this approximately equal parts prediction and wish list:

Pat Benatar (with or without Neil Giraldo): Not many would be surprised by another nomination; what was surprising is that she was passed over for induction the first time. If nominated again, the voters likely won't overlook her twice.

Chubby Checker: I hate to think that, because of some disparaging remarks he made about the Hall, that they're waiting for him to pass on to induct him posthumously. He practically invented the Twist (even if he didn't write it, he certainly added to its popularity). Induct him already.

Joe Cocker: Arguably the last major act at Woodstock (perhaps not including Sha Na Na) to perform at Woodstock. It's a shame that he won't be around to perform live, but still worthy for induction.

Duran Duran or INXS: 1980s rock has just started to come into its own in the Hall in the last few years; I am somewhat surprised that they haven't been considered sooner.

The Eurythmics: Another 1980s act that is still around when 1980s acts are being considered. Made some interesting music that is still heard and listened to.

Eminem: Welcome to Cleveland.

Huey Lewis and the News: Like Duran Duran and INXS, yet another 1980s act that is around when 1980s acts are starting to be recognized by the Hall. Unlike most 1980s acts, their imitation 1950s sound distinguished them from many 1980s acts that sounded--and looked--like every other 1980s act (Sorry, fans of Foreigner, Loverboy, REO Speedwagon and Styx, among others; I believe Journey was the exception because of Steve Perry's voice and the relatively recent popularity of "Don't Stop Believing"). Whether that's enough to get them noticed by the nominating committee, and by the voters, remains to be seen.

Iron Maiden, Judas Priest or Motley Crue: One of the three will likely, again, be nominated. I would put it at about 50-50 as to whether they will be inducted, but there is no question that a prominent metal act will be nominated.

Chaka Khan (with or without Rufus): Nominated several times before, and--with both the addition of other R&B acts and so many women--this may be her best shot yet. If she doesn't get in as a performer soon, may be relegated to "Musical Excellence" status.

Bette Midler: With last year's influx of female nominees and inductees, like Chaka Khan, this year my be Midler's best (only?) chance at nomination and induction. (Yes, I mentioned Chaka Khan and Bette Midler in the same sentence. Almost as unbelievable as Alice Cooper and Neil Diamond in the same induction class.)

The Monkees: With the passing of Michael Nesmith, there may now be an urgency felt by the nominating committee to induct them while their last member is still alive.

Willie Nelson: Rock and roll has been described as the illegitimate child of Black rhythm and blues, Irish folk music and country western (if that's humanly possible). Nelson is at least as influential a country artist to rock and roll as Johnny Cash.

Peter, Paul and Mary: Arguably the epitome of 1960s folk music. (They're the first that come to mind when I think of it, anyway.)

Petra: Pretty much invented Christian rock. Even though Petra is now pretty much obscure, considering how many artists now occupy that genre; their influence is undeniable.

The Runaways: Joan Jett's first band, and predated that "other" all-female band that got in by almost a decade. It's literally impossible to absolutely predict whether the Go-Go's and the Bangles would exist were it not for the Runaways, but it seems unlikely.

Carly Simon: With the recent addition of so many female songwriters (Laura Nyro, Joan Baez, Carole King, among others), Simon seems like a natural fit.

The Spinners: Arguably the biggest Motown act not yet in the Hall. The problem seems to be that there aren't enough surviving voters (or nominating committee members) who remember Motown.

The Sugar Hill Gang: One other poster had it right: If any act could be justified as Hall-worthy on the basis of one--and only one--song, it would have to be them. Arguably the first popular rap song--ever.

Three Dog Night: I am honestly surprised that they haven't really been considered yet. Hopefully they will be before another of their lead singers passes on.

Weird Al Yankovic: At least one performer (Kurt Cobain) stated publicly that he first thought he "made it" when Yankovic asked to parody his song. If nothing else, it would make for a more entertaining ceremony.

Warren Zevon: From what I have heard, several HoFers have cited Zevon as an influence--which is believable, considering how many collaborated with him on his last album (before his death), "The Wind." If nominated, it may be enough to get him over the top to be inducted.

(And I'm well aware that the above is more than will be in one nominating class. I said that this was part wish list.)

Musical Excellence:

Ronnie James Dio
Ben E. King (a second induction, though worthy of a performer induction IMHO)
Fela Kuti
Boz Scaggs

Non-Performers:

Michael Lang (organizer of Woodstock, recently deceased)
Annie Leibovitz (chief photographer of Rolling Stone magazine, among other things)
Ed Sullivan (television show host, pretty much introduced the Beatles to America)
Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul, Randy Jackson, Brian Dunkleman and Ryan Seacrest

Posted by Joe S. on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 05:20am


K-Dawg,
Are we continuing with 1970s chat. I responded a few days ago to Folk and AM ROCK. I'm sayinh Carly Simon, Jim Croce and Watten Zevon. And I mentioned AM ROCK. Or are we DONE? It's your TURN

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 06:42am


Ben,

Most of my knowledge of AM rock has been covered. I'm simply not as versed in it as other genres. Steely Dan is the biggest name in the genre I know. Boz Scaggs and Paul Revere and the Raiders, as mentioned, may be the only names I can think of that are not in. I'm not even really sure they qualify, and I know I knocked them earlier, but the Doobie Brothers could be considered AM rock? I'd love to include more, it's just not my most knowledgeable genre. The Guess Who are another band, but are on the fence because they could legit be considered 60s rock.

It has been a fun topic all in all. And, it's a decade lost in antiquity because the 80s is so saturated everywhere like it's the "best decade ever" to so many. To me, it's a fascinating because it's the decade right before I really achieved awareness from my earliest music memories (and other subjects for that matter).

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 09:40am


K-Dawg,
NO worries. Since we seem to be done with the 70s. I willl cover the 80s Next. I had this idea to cover the 3 decades I know a lot about in music. UP next the 80s. Stay. Tuned. I'm possibly about 10 years older so my Music awareness started In the Early 70s. Ok UP next the 80s

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 19:00pm


There is a pattern regarding Rap/Hip-Hop in the Hall, In 2007, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five were inducted, then 2 years later in 2009, Run-DMC were inducted, then in 2012 and 2013, The Beastie Boys and Public Enemy were inducted, then in 2016 and 2017, N.W.A. and Tupac Shakur were inducted and then in 2020 and 2021, The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z and LL Cool J were inducted. So based on the pattern, I don't think we'll get another Rap/Hip-Hop inductee until 2024, I know that you guys all think that Eminem is going to be a FYE lock/shoo-in inductee this year, but I have my doubts about Eminem being a FYE inductee because he's had such a controversial career and it took The Stooges, Black Sabbath, The Sex Pistols and N.W.A. multiple nominations to get in because they were all controversial as well, plus the fact that Radiohead didn't get in FYE in 2018 when everyone was predicting them to waltz right in FYE and there may very well be Rap fatigue among the voting body that still isn't 100% sold on the genre as well.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/17/2022 @ 19:41pm


Joe S.

Why not induct Dio rather than just Ronnie?

I don't think King's solo work is worthy.

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 01:14am


We will get into the 80s in due course. However, I have compiled an at the moment list of my RRHOF rankings BASED ON MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES. This is not meant to be a comprehensive list, nor should it be inferred that you need to like the acts that I do in any given order. My other caveat is that, as much as I'd love to say I'm a music expert, there is much of the music of the following acts, particularly at the bottom of the list with some notable exceptions (a certain Fleetwood Mac member, for one), that I am not largely familiar with their work. I will present them in descending order, and I think I will do a hundred now and the rest a little later. So, here they are, beginning with number 233:

233. Laura Nyro
232. Stevie Nicks
231. Paul Butterfield Blues Band
230.Darlene Love
229. Del Shannon
228. Dion
227. Bobby Blue Bland
226. The Staples Singers
225. Lloyd Price
224 Etta James
223. Dr. John
222. Percy Sledge
221. The Moonglows
220. Duane Eddy
219. Dave Clark Five
218. Jimmy Reed
217. Albert King
216 Faces/Small Faces
215. Eddie Cochran
214 Bobby Womack
213. Rascals
212. The Dells
211. Solomon Burke
210. Little Willie John
209. Jimmy Cliff
208. Big Joe Turner
207. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
206. Ritchie Valens
205. Tom Waits
204. Ruth Brown
203. Patti Smith
202. Little Anthony and the Imperials
201. The Righteous Brothers
200. The Lovin Spoonful
199. Gene Pitney
198. Gene Vincent
197. Carl Perkins
196. John Lee Hooker
195. The Flamingos
194. The Four Tops
193. The Coasters
192. The Platters
191. Martha and the Vandellas
190. Everly Brothers
189. The Zombies
188. Leonard Cohen
187. The Mamas and the Papas
186. Parliament Funkadelic
185. The Shirelles
184. The Ronettes
183. George Harrison
182. Randy Newman
181. T-Rex
180. Alice Cooper
179 The Four Seasons
178. Gladys Knight and the Pips
177. Sam and Dave
176. Ricky Nelson
175. James Taylor
174. ABBA
173. Buffalo Springfield
172. Lavern Baker
171. Todd Rundgren
170. Clyde McPhatter
169. Brenda Lee
168. The Doobie Brothers
167. Bobby Darin
166. Linda Ronstadt
165. Bill Haley
164. Joni Mitchell
163. Carole King
162. Dusty Springfield
161. The Stooges
160. The Ventures
159. Frank Zappa
158. The Band
157.Elvis Costello and the Attractions
156. Joan Jett and the Blackhearts'
155. The Drifters
154. Curtis Mayfield
153.Paul Simon
152. Bonnie Raitt
151. Jackson Browne
150. Journey
149. Buddy Guy
148. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
147. Grateful Dead
146. Nina Simone
145. Fats Domino
144.Traffic
143 Ike and Tina Turner
142. The Isley Brothers
141. Hank Ballard
140. John Lennon
139. Al Green
138. Bo Diddley
137. The Allman Brothers Band
136. Donna Summer
135. Neil Diamond
134. Dire Straits
133. Booker T and the MGs
132. Cat Stevens
131. Steely Dan
130. Neil Young
129. Isaac Hayes
128. John Cougar Mellencamp
127. Jefferson Airplane
126. KISS
125. The Moody Blues
124. The Impressions
123. The Animals
122. The Hollies
121. Bill Withers
120. Jeff Beck
119. U2
118. Van Morrison
117. Temptations
116. The GoGos
115. Muddy Waters
114. Beastie Boys
113. REM
112. The Velvet Underground
111. Johnny Cash
110.Bon Jovi
109. Van Halen
108. Rod Stewart
107. Miles Davis
106. Donovan
105. Roxy Music
104. Joan Baez
103. Peter Gabriel
102. The O'Jays
101. Buddy Holly

The last part will be listed in the morning I hope. Again, this is my personal list, not based on criteria other than my tastes and impressions...

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 02:10am


K-Dawg,
This is an Amazing list of your Personal Preferences. I've only devised Top 10 favs in my Lifetime. Thats all I've had time for. Well I am guessing you were born about 1975 or 76. I was born 1965. Born in 1965 can give me a very deep perspective. Something like that. Now then I am as unfamiliar with the 1950s acts as you. I state the decade so Nobody confuses it as age. My intense music knowledge starts with around 1967.
I can fill in some info. Your bottom act at #233 is Laura Nyro. She is a great songwriter. My best friend Jack loves her. She wrote songs for people like Tree Dog Night. I don't know too much.
Lovin Spoonful- You have them at #200 I love some of their hits. Biggest ones Summer in the City and Daydream. You may Not be that familiar with the Spoonful
Rascals- I know a lot about them. I own a Gr Hits. They were led by Felix Calalier. Huge hits are Groovin and People Got to be Free. Huge in the 1960s
Alice Cooper- Ahhh I know a lot of his. I own a few of his. He was huge in the 1970s and innovated the idea of Glam rock stage shows. Some of my Favs are Schools Out, Hello Hooray and Under My Wheels
The Band- 2 Great albums are Music from Big Pink and The Band. Stage Fright very good too
Grateful Dead- I am a slight Dead Head. I own most of their albums. I Never travelled around for them. I saw them in Concert in 1985. The Good ole Dead were still considered in their heyday. They are an institution unto themselves.
Allman Brothers Band- They are also one of my all time favorite bands
Check them out more if you want. My Fav albums are Fillmore East and Eat a Peach. But I own all of them up to Shades of Two Worlds.
Neil Young- He is my #2 artist of all time. Best albums After Gold Rush, Harvest and Tonights the Night. I own them alll to 1992. NOT after though
Moody Blues- I have spoken sooo much about them. Also in my Top 10. I own them all from Days of Future Passed to Seventh Sojourn. Love these guys
Bon Jovi- I like this guy a lot. One of the best from New Jersey. He's Excellent. I would say you know Bon Jovi rather well
Van Halen- I love Van Halen. Another fav band. I like all the album with David L Roth With Sammy Hagar I only like 5150. They did stay on top with Sammy with 5150. It's good too. Which one do you prefer. David L or Sammy as singer?
Roxy Music- They have some great stuff. I know Love is the Drug and the Avalon album
Buddy Holly- I know your rankings dont matter. You seem to know him if he rises up. I don't know him too welll. I like Peggy Sue. Thats my main one
Please respond and continue your list. I want to see where my Favorite band is located. My Fav Band is British and Very famous. BUT appeared after the Beatles

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 05:30am


Ben,

Thanks for your insight. I DO know a lot about most of these bands, at this point (after about 190) I am just going off a combination of preference and where they fit to me in the grand scheme of things for the RRHOF (many good acts but there's just so much of it I have to put everyone somewhere). Anyway, let's continue with 100:

100. Simon and Garfunkel
99. Beach Boys
98. Santana
97. Bob Seger
96. Bee Gees
95. Sex Pistols
94. Tina Turner
93. The Jackson 5
92. Cheap Trick
91. Electric Light Orchestra
90. The Notorious BIG
89. Billy Joel
88. Ramones
87. Cream
86. Foo Fighters
85. Radiohead
84. Sam Cooke
83. Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble
82. Hall and Oates
81. Run DMC
80. The Pretenders
79. WIlson Pickett
78. Rush
77. Eric Clapton
76. The Cure
75. Bruce Springsteen
74. The Byrds
73. Red Hot Chili Peppers
72. Elton John
71. Yes
70. Lou Reed
69. Janis Joplin
68. Blondie
67. Steve Miller
66. Roy Orbison
65.Sly and the Family Stone
64. Paul McCartney
63. Nirvana
62. Chicago
61. Janet Jackson
60. Guns N Roses
59. Green Day
58. AC/DC
57. Earth Wind and Fire
56. The Supremes
55. Lynyrd Skynyrd
54. Otis Redding
53. Talking Heads'
52. Jay Z
51. Nine Inch Nails
50. Aretha Franklin
49. Stevie Wonder
48. Madonna
47. Public Enemy
46. Jackie Wilson
45 David Bowie
44. Pink Floyd
43. Tupac Shakur
42. Genesis
41. The Cars
40. Black Sabbath
39. Michael Jackson
38. Elvis Presley
37. Crosby Stills and Nash (and Young)
36. Whitney Houston
35. Heart
34. The Kinks
33. The Police
32. The Yardbirds
31. Ray Charles
30. Creedence Clearwater Revival
29. Queen
28. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
27. Deep Purple
26. Bob Dylan
25. Depeche Mode
24. The Clash
23. Eagles
22. Def Leppard
21. Metallica
20. Bob Marley
19. Pearl Jam
18. NWA
17. Marvin Gaye
16. Smokey Robinson
15. Jerry Lee Lewis
14. ZZ Top
13. The Doors
12. Jimi Hendrix Experience
11. Fleetwood Mac
10. Prince
9. Beatles
8. Little Richard
7. The Who
6. James Brown
5. Rolling Stones
4. Aerosmith
3. BB King
2. Chuck Berry
1. Led Zeppelin (obviously my favorite band ever)

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 12:05pm


K-Dawg,
I know you know your Top 100 welll. I love #100. Simon & Garfunkel. They were great. The biggest duo of the 1960s.
Your # 89 BILLY Joel was one of my all time fav performers at one time. He got a bit lowered by later albums like Storm Front. I love all his early albums like Turnstiles.
I'll stop mentioning. rank. You said they don't really matter.
Eric Clapton- one of my all time fav Artists. Possibly the greatest Guitarist of all time. He was called God long long ago by some
He has Very good Solo albums. Journeyman is a great later one
Yes- they are one of the Best Prog Rock groups of alll time. .I own a whole Bunch of Yes albums
I can go on and on with most of these.
I will skip to The Who
The Who are my Fav band of all time. The Who is MY fav band ever. They started out with rather simple songs In First British Invasion They eventually released Tommy. It's a concept album that gave them Worldwide attention. Who's Next, Quadrophenia and The Who by Numbers are great too. I guess you Love BB King, Chuck Berry and Led Zeppelin the most. I own a whole bunch of LED ZEP. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 12:34pm


A bit of insight to my top 3...

Led Zeppelin is my favorite band ever, this is true. Aerosmith would be next. I see them as the American Led Zeppelin; they don't get the respect they deserve from fans near as much as they get in the rock community. They have withstood the test of time, and took the path I felt Zepp would have had they not broken up in 1980, only with Jason Bonham replacing his dad. This is all subjective, mind you.

Chuck Berry is not my most favorite; he is enduring and I respect his place in rock and roll along with Elvis as the biggest early names in the established genre. His pick at 2 was more a "he belongs here for his place in music" role.

BB King, all in all not in my favorite acts pantheon per se as a rock and roll legend from a discography standpoint; his place, cemented in immortality, is his blues and guitar. To me, he is not a great rock star; he is among the greatest musicians of all time, and he shaped my love of blues and southern rock. His hand is just as well in virtually every other genre besides and including within rock and roll. He is one of the most important musicians of the 20th century. I was fortunate to see him play in 1997, I believe, and even then, when he was full of years, he still had that sweet music.

I will cover some of my other choices in detail as there is time (if there is time)

The Who are among my favorite acts as well. Whereas the Beatles ARE the trendsetters of the British invasion, I do prefer both the Stones and the Who's sound a bit more. This is my personal preferences; if I'm forced to say who is more instrumental to the genre in general, I put the Beatles slightly higher. However, it's not a far reach to put the Who and the Stones on the same level in terms of importance

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 12:51pm


K-Dawg,
Other favs I have I will limit to your TOP 50.
Stevie Wonder
Genesis
The Cars
HEART
TOM Petty and the Heartbreakers
Deep Purple
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
The Doors
JIMI Hendrix
Fleetwood Mac
And I said my FAV band is the WHO

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/18/2022 @ 16:33pm


Garrus:

Ronnie James Dio's work with Rainbow is probably as significant as that with his namesake band, though I don't see either band entering the Hall anytime soon. However, his combined work with Rainbow, Dio and Black Sabbath, IMHO, make him at least as worthy of "Musical Excellence" consideration as Randy Rhoads' work with Ozzy Osbourne.

As for Ben E. King, "Stand By Me" and "Spanish Harlem," both of which were his as a soloist (not with the Drifters), I think earn him a Musical Excellence induction, if not a Performer induction. That he wrote the former, again IMHO, adds to his case.

Posted by Joe S. on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 00:24am


I have an AMA idea:

Sonny Turner, the original lead vocalist for the Platters. Sadly omitted when they were inducted in 1990.

Posted by Garrus on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 02:36am


K-Dawg,
Other favorites kind of.
Michael Jackson- I respect his middle work. That's the stuff on Off The Wall and Thriller. He is Not a top favorite. He is in your Top 50. He WAS enduring and i respect his place in Rock and Pop. His pick at #39 makes sense,
Whitney Houston- She was a talented singer in her heyday of the 1980s and 90s. I will Always Love You is one of the biggest hits of the 90s. Its too dramatic for me as a song. But For the Love of You, Didn't We Almost Have it All and I'm Your baby Tonight are Nice songs. Her albums were pleasant for listening to amongst friends. Too bad she ran into problems.
Heart- Another favorite band of mine. I used to own all their albums. I like all their albums up to Passion Works. I was a huge fan back in the late 70s early 80s. This is before the late 80s hits. Private Audition and Passion Works were in the early 80s

Other Favs of mine
Pink Floyd
Crosby, Stills & Nash
Bob Dylan- I own alll his albums 1962-1983. Thats a lot of albums. An early hero of Folk rock. I go way beyond the hits. I love John Wesley Harding, Nashville Skyline, New Morning, Planet Waves, Blood on the Tracks, Desire and Street Legal. He is great
Def Leppard
ZZ Top
The Doors
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Beatles
Rolling Stones
Aerosmith

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 03:18am


K-Dawg,
My Favs further down the Top 100
71. Yes
70. Lou Reed
68. Blondie-I loved Debbie Harry growing up. I owned her 2 main albums at 15
Parallel Lines and Eat to the Beat. Call Me was Ok but was played out and tooo huge during 1980.
62. Chicago- This is a fav group of my Younger Youth in the 70s. Soo many hits Soo many albums.
57. Earth, Wind and Fire- They are one of the best R&B bands of alll time. My Favs are Thats the Way of the World, Fantasy, September, After the Love Has Gone
55. Lynyrd Skynyrd- I was excited when they were inducted in 2006. Great Southern Rock. This band confirmed my liking of Southern Rock.
54. Otis Redding- One of the All Time great Soul R&B legends, Some of my favs are Mr Pitiful and Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa

Thats it for Now Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 06:16am


Ok so I'm gonna swap out my Scorpions prediction for Weird Al of all people, mostly because I just found out that theres gonna be a Weird Al biopic coming out on Roku starring Daniel Radcliffe of all people. This may be a Go-Go's and Tina Turner situation where a documentary, or in this case biopic, could boost someone's chances to get in, or at the very least get on the ballot. This could also end up being a Motley Crue situation where the biopic doesn't really help at all. Here's a Rolling Stone article to reference what I'm talking about: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/daniel-radcliffe-weird-al-yankovic-biopic-1286492/

What do the rest of you think about this/

Posted by Raichu on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 07:38am


K-Dawg,

I'm glad to see you posted your personal rankings. It's fun to see what the tastes are of the other regulars on the site. Looks like you lean toward classic rock and classic R&B. Zeppelin is a fine choice as your favorite, though it sounds like you didn't just stick with your personal opinion and mixed their overall importance into your list. As I mentioned before, I did a ranking of my favorites as well over the last couple years. I'll post mine in the next few days and we can compare.

Posted by Michael W. on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 09:51am


K-Dawg,
I am tempted to do the same thing. I haven't done this for 40 years. In High School I did. I gave insight instead. I mentioned different Classic Rock favs like The Who, Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, ZZ Top and also Classic Pop and R&B like Michael Jackson and Earth, Wind and Fire. I was glad when these 2 were Inducted alongside Typical rock. I definitely lean towards Classic Rock and Classic R&B. I love lots of 80s too for both.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 10:44am


K-Dawg,

Really cool to see your taste, man. Kind of similar to my type of music that I enjoy. Aerosmith for life! Must have been time consuming and hard to do such a list. Led Zeppelin is a pretty inspired choice. Probably do mine too, but I will have to do extensive listening in order to see if I jive with certain acts I overlook.

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 11:01am


K-Dawg,
This is a good idea. It lets us know your taste. Your tastes are somewhat similar to mine. You got that taste for Classic Rock and Classic R&B. I'VE BEEN a ROCK FAN my whole LIFE BUT I am DIVERSE WITH significant AMOUNTS OF CLASSIC R&B. MY COLLECTION has LOTS and LOTS OF ROCK. BUT have AT LEAST A FEW HUNDRED R&B TUNES. WE will BE IN touch.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 14:06pm


I will admit, this is a mixture of a list. I really was trying to be a bit objective when making it; there are artists I don't necessarily care for that I did put higher up than I otherwise would. The Beatles is a good example; not because I hate them in any way, shape or form, but because I do realize their importance to rock and roll. In many objective lists, they are going to be in the top 3, and surely above the Who, Stones and Zeppelin in those lists. I actually put them down as low as I dared while still trying to give them the proper respect of their place in music.

At the same time, Led Zeppelin arguably is one of the most important bands ever. It is universally accepted that they are the ones that put metal on the map, not that their sound is exclusively thus, but with Black Sabbath, they were the ones that spawned the path for Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pantera, and everyone that came after. Jimmy Page, to me, is the second greatest guitarist in history after the other Jimi. So, even though they are my favorite band, I do feel I have a compelling case to make them the best act in the RRHOF.

As to my music tastes, yes I do like a lot of classic to modern rock; my mood reflects largely on what I feel like listening to. I am a HUGE rap/hip-hop person as well, which I believe you could read into the old 70s r and b elements in the list. If this really was a favorite acts list for me personally, I would have NWA (due mostly to Dre and Ice Cube being in the group) probably in the top 10, but I'm trying to be at least a little objective.

Thanks for all the positive feedback; I might try to do a little missive on the upper acts I listed to explain reasoning, but time is of the essence, and we are on the cusp of announcements for nominees in a short month or so.

I look forward to seeing other ranking lists, and in particular await Michael W's, because we have talked about this a bit. Ben, Plebeian, and everyone else--thank you for your words and interactions. If my list offends anyone, remember, it's an opinion, and we all have them.

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 15:36pm


I hate to tick off the "real" rock fans who are frustrated with how not rock and roll the RNRHOF has become, but the board's continued desire to focus on being a pop music HOF will only intensify over the next 15 years, as many big pop stars become eligible:


2022 Eminem
2023 Missy Elliott
Puff Daddy/P.Diddy
2024 Coldplay
Britney Spears
2025 50 Cent
Christina Aguilera
2026 Pink
2027 Alicia Keys
2028 Rihanna
Justin Timberlake
Maroon 5
2029 Kanye West
Beyonce
Amy Winehouse
Pharrell Williams
2030 Gwen Stefani
2031 Ed Sheeran
2032 Taylor Swift
2033 Adele
Katy Perry
2034 Lady Gaga
2035 Drake
Justin Bieber
2036 Bruno Mars

Posted by Paul Battaglia on Wednesday, 01/19/2022 @ 20:03pm


NOMINEES

Coolio
Diana Ross
The B-52's
Jim Croce
Backstreet Boys
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Soundgarden
Big Mama Thornton
Dio
Joe Cocker
Motley Crue
Lou Rawls
Chubby Checker
Tower of Power
The Smiths
Pat Benatar
The Sugarhill Gang
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Herman's Hermits
Alice in Chains

Posted by Garrus on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 01:22am


Paul Battaglia,
As an All time "real" rock fan, I am not Horrified by all these. I don't a single tune of Eminem but as mentioned I can understand a New Generation having their icons in the Hall the same way I had Elton John and Rod Stewart inducted about 30 years ago. I have yet to check any of Eminem out. My joke is that I just know M&M s the candy. LOL. As far as Missy Elliot I own one tune, Her biggest hit. I like Coldplay. I dislike strongly Puff Daddy and Britney Spears. Going further down I like Amy Winehouse and some Gwen Stefani. Bruno Mars has catchy tunes. He is Ok.
None of them are on a level close to my All time favs like The Who, E Clapton, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan but I am NOT horrified by all of them. I am extremely sure that Jethro Tull and Blue Oyster Cult may be inducted alongside any of these, So there is that anyway.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 02:47am


He laments it's the end of the world, but it's simply an evolution of rock and roll. So many people equate rock and roll with "rock", and it's a big misnomer. Rock, pop, hip hop, even country, blues, jazz, all have elements of the sound that originated in the 1950s. It doesn't have to have a guitar driven headbanging sound and screaming lyrics to be rock AND ROLL. Many of us laugh at the rock purists (rockists), that are gatekeepers for their sacred classic rock stations and scream in agony at the thought of someone that isn't heard with the same song every 3 hours being inducted into their perceived sanctum sanctorum. I will admit, I am a rock fan in addition to many other genres, and while I find types of rock like heavy metal, nu metal, alternative and new wave still ridiculously underrepresented, I welcome rap, pop, hip hop, R and B, techno, and whatever other genres the hall wants to put in that are very much Rock AND ROLL...

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 04:25am


K-Dawg,
Hey there. Question/ Who is He? He laments its the end of the world. Yeah It is simply an evolution. I understand Eminem inducted in 2022. I think his controversy will be disregarded. BUT who is HE that laments. Some general HE? laments. Lets get started with this. It's coool chatting

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 04:35am


Music evolves, but the spirit of rock and roll never dies.

Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 12:56pm


"He" is Paul Battaglia. And, I get he had a statement to make, but I'm not sure his intentions here. As a general rule, this board is tolerable of most acts getting into the RRHOF because we have an understanding of the definition of "Rock and Roll" as opposed to "Rock".

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 13:02pm


All right. I found my list of the Rockhall performer inductees ranked favorite to least favorite. This is strictly my personal taste and has nothing to do with where I'd rank them based on overall importance. That's why you'll find John Mellencamp near the top and Bob Dylan waayyyy down the list, for example. You'll see that I'm primarily alternative rock and classic rock with some classic R&B thrown in for good measure. I tend to like artists that make me feel like they actually believe in what they're singing. I also listed my favorite song from each artist when I first made the list and I don't feel like going through and deleting all that so it's still in there. Here you go!

1. The Beatles – Hey Bulldog
2. The Police – Next To You
3. R.E.M. – Everybody Hurts
4. Billy Joel – She's Always A Woman
5. Radiohead – High And Dry
6. John Mellencamp – Cherry Bomb
7. U2 – One/In God's Country
8. Simon And Garfunkel – The Boxer
9. Genesis – Keep It Dark
10. The Pretenders – Talk Of The Town
11. Paul Simon – The Boy In The Bubble
12. Talking Heads – Road To Nowhere
13. Pearl Jam – Given To Fly
14. Prince – Forever In My Life
15. Ray Charles – (Night Time Is) The Right Time
16. Depeche Mode – Enjoy The Silence
17. Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers – Runnin' Down A Dream
18. Red Hot Chili Peppers – By The Way
19. Bruce Springsteen – The Rising
20. Bob Seger – You'll Accomp'ny Me
21. Stevie Wonder – For Once in My Life
22. The Rolling Stones – She's A Rainbow
23. Hall And Oates – You Make My Dreams
24. Fleetwood Mac – Second Hand News
25. Led Zeppelin – Good Times Bad Times
26. David Bowie – Heroes
27. Eagles – Heartache Tonight
28. Fats Domino – I'm Walkin'
29. The Cars – Let's Go
30. Yes – Leave It
31. Green Day – Holiday
32. The Cure – Pictures Of You
33. Buddy Holly – Oh Boy!
34. T. Rex – 20th Century Boy
35. Little Richard – Tutti Frutti
36. Marvin Gaye – Got To Give It Up (Pt. 1)
37. George Harrison – When We Was Fab
38. The Who – The Seeker
39. Journey – Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'
40. Paul McCartney – Goodnight Tonight
41. The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Manic Depression
42. Sly And The Family Stone – Everyday People
43. Nine Inch Nails – Only
44. Al Green – Love And Happiness
45. Peter Gabriel – Games Without Frontiers
46. Pink Floyd – Young Lust
47. Foo Fighters – Everlong
48. Heart – Crazy On You
49. Bo Diddley – You Can't Judge A Book By It's Cover
50. Creedence Clearwater Revival – Up Around The Bend
51. Jefferson Airplane – Pretty As You Are
52. Crosby, Stills And Nash – Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
53. Elton John – Levon
54. Sam Cooke – Twistin' The Night Away
55. Steve Miller – Threshold/Jet Airliner
56. Aretha Franklin – Think
57. The Doobie Brothers – Take Me In Your Arms (Rock Me A Little While)
58. The Kinks – A Well Respected Man
59. Rod Stewart – You're In My Heart (The Final Acclaim)
60. Cream – I Feel Free
61. The Clash – Know Your Rights
62. Madonna – Ray Of Light
63. Steely Dan – Peg
64. Chicago – Feelin' Stronger Every Day
65. Bobby "Blue" Bland – Cry Cry Cry
66. Van Halen – Dance The Night Away
67. Bill Withers – Lovely Day
68. The Temptations – Get Ready
69. Eric Clapton – No Alibis
70. John Lennon – Instant Karma!
71. AC/DC – T.N.T.
72. Aerosmith – Same Old Song And Dance
73. Chuck Berry – You Never Can Tell
74. The Doors – Love Me Two Times
75. B.B. King – Caldonia
76. ELO – Don't Bring Me Down
77. Michael Jackson – Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
78. Joan Jett And The Blackhearts – Bad Reputation
79. Tupac Shakur – Changes
80. Roy Orbison – Dream Baby (How Long Must I Dream)
81. Donovan – Happiness Runs
82. Leonard Cohen – So Long, Marianne
83. Def Leppard – Rock Of Ages
84. The Four Tops – It's The Same Old Song
85. Neil Young – Unknown Legend
86. Blondie – Heart Of Glass
87. Curtis Mayfield – We Got To Have Peace
88. The Coasters – Yakkety Yak
89. Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble – Pride And Joy
90. Jimmy Reed – Shame, Shame, Shame
91. Nina Simone – Ain't Got No…I Got Life
92. Otis Redding – The Happy Song (Dun-Dum)
93. The Beach Boys – Wouldn't It Be Nice
94. The Supremes – Reflections
95. Nirvana – In Bloom
96. Albert King – Born Under A Bad Sign
97. The Zombies – Tell Her No
98. Jimmy Cliff – Majority Rule
99. Gene Vincent & His Blue Caps – B-I-Bickey-Bi, Bo-Bo-Go
100. ZZ Top – Stages
101. Queen – Killer Queen
102. Wilson Pickett – Hey Jude
103. Neil Diamond – Cherry Cherry
104. Earth, Wind & Fire – September
105. Janet Jackson – When I Think Of You
106. Public Enemy – Bring The Noise
107. James Brown – Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Sex Machine
108. Jackson Browne – Somebody's Baby
109. The Go-Go's – Head Over Heels
110. The Impressions – We're A Winner
111. Bonnie Raitt – I Can't Make You Love Me
112. Little Willie John – All Around The World
113. Patti Smith – Summer Cannibals
114. Jay-Z – 99 Problems
115. Cat Stevens – Peace Train
116. ABBA – Take A Chance On Me
117. Stevie Nicks – If Anyone Falls
118. The (Young) Rascals – People Got To Be Free
119. Janis Joplin – Me And Bobby McGee
120. Ricky Nelson – Poor Little Fool
121. Guns N' Roses – Mr. Brownstone
122. Bobby Darin – Mack The Knife
123. Sam And Dave – Soul Sister, Brown Sugar
124. Cheap Trick – She's Tight
125. Bobby Womack – Lookin' For A Love
126. The Grateful Dead – Franklin's Tower
127. Johnny Cash – It Ain't Me Babe
128. The Velvet Underground – Beginning To See The Light
129. Ike & Tina Turner – River Deep, Mountain High
130. The Dave Clark Five – Glad All Over
131. The O'Jays – Love Train
132. The Animals – Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
133. The Isley Brothers – It's Your Thing
134. The Shirelles – Mama Said
135. Run DMC – It's Tricky
136. Big Joe Turner – The Chicken And The Hawk (Up, Up And Away)
137. Bob Marley – Could You Be Loved
138. Metallica – One
139. Dire Straits – Walk Of Life
140. Frankie Lymon And The Teenagers – Thumb Thumb
141. The Byrds – I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better
142. Clyde McPhatter – Lover Please
143. Bill Haley & His Comets – See You Later, Alligator
144. N.W.A. – 100 Miles And Runnin'
145. Deep Purple – Hush
146. Donna Summer – Heaven Knows
147. Lavern Baker – That's All I Need
148. Jackson 5 – I Want You Back
149. The Hollies – Bus Stop
150. Beastie Boys – Sabotage
151. Martha And The Vandellas – Nowhere To Run
152. The Small Faces/Faces – Here Come The Nice
153. Van Morrison – Into The Mystic
154. Etta James – Next Door to The Blues
155. Bon Jovi – Keep The Faith
156. Gladys Knight And The Pips – I Heard It Through The Grapevine
157. Jerry Lee Lewis – Great Balls Of Fire
158. The Moody Blues – Ride My See-Saw
159. The Band – Up On Cripple Creek
160. Isaac Hayes – Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic
161. Linda Ronstadt – Long Long Time
162. Smokey Robinson – I Second That Emotion
163. Joni Mitchell – Free Man In Paris
164. The Flamingos – I Only Have Eyes For You
165. Parliament-Funkadelic – One Nation Under A Groove
166. Frank Zappa – Trouble Every Day
167. James Taylor – Your Smiling Face
168. Eddie Cochran – C'Mon Everybody
169. Ruth Brown – 5-10-15 Hours
170. The Moonglows – We Go Together
171. The Allman Brothers Band – Jessica
172. Elvis Presley – Return To Sender
173. Muddy Waters – Look What You've Done
174. Carole King – I Feel The Earth Move
175. Solomon Burke – Cry To Me
176. John Lee Hooker – One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer
177. The Yardbirds – Heart Full Of Soul
178. Black Sabbath – Paranoid
179. The Ronettes – (The Best Part Of) Breakin' Up
180. Dion – I Wonder Why
181. Lloyd Price – Personality
182. Buffalo Springfield – Bluebird
183. The Stooges – 1969
184. The Everly Brothers – Bye Bye Love
185. Whitney Houston – So Emotional
186. Todd Rundgren – I Saw The Light
187. Carl Perkins – Tennessee
188. Elvis Costello And The Attractions – Pump It Up
189. Lynyrd Skynyrd – Simple Man
190. The Drifters – Up On The Roof
191. The Mamas And The Papas – Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon)
192. Traffic – Empty Pages
193. The Notorious B.I.G. – Mo Money Mo Problems
194. Buddy Guy – Miss Ida B
195. Brenda Lee – Sweet Nothin's
196. The Ramones – Blitzkrieg Bop
197. Santana – Smooth
198. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band – I Got My Mojo Working
199. Dusty Springfield – I Only Want To Be With You
200. The Platters – The Great Pretender
201. Bob Dylan – Hurricane
202. Tina Turner – We Don't Need Another Hero (Thunderdome)
203. Sex Pistols – God Save The Queen
204. Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five – White Lines
205. Alice Cooper – Hello Hooray
206. Dr. John – Such A Night
207. Duane Eddy – Peter Gunn
208. The Ventures – Walk-Don't Run
209. Little Anthony And The Imperials – Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko Bop
210. Laura Nyro – Wedding Bell Blues
211. Bee Gees – Stayin' Alive
212. Jackie Wilson – (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher And Higher
213. Hank Ballard – Let's Go Again
214. Darlene Love – Lord, If You're A Woman
215. Roxy Music – More Than This
216. Ritchie Valens – Come On, Let's Go
217. The Staple Singers – I'll Take You There
218. Rush – Time Stand Still
219. The Dells – I Miss You
220. Lou Reed – Perfect Day
221. The Lovin' Spoonful – Summer In The City
222. Miles Davis – Spanish Key
223. Jeff Beck - Scatterbrain
224. The Righteous Brothers – (You're My) Soul And Inspiration
225. The Four Seasons – Walk Like A Man
226. Booker T. And The M.G.'s – Green Onions
227. Percy Sledge – It Tears Me Up
228. KISS – Detroit Rock City
229. Joan Baez – Prison Trilogy (Billy Rose)
230. Del Shannon - Runaway
231. Randy Newman – You've Got A Friend In Me
232. Tom Waits – Jersey Girl
233. Gene Pitney – Maria Elena

Posted by Michael W. on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 17:26pm


"Smooth' should NEVER be anyone's favorite Santana song!

Posted by Mr. XFL on Thursday, 01/20/2022 @ 21:34pm


Mr. XFL,
Amen I totally agree with you
Here are some favorites songs of mine
For me
Santana-Hope You're Feeling Better
. Lynyrd Skynyrd – Saturday Night Special
The Drifters – Under the Boardwalk
. The Mamas And The Papas – California Dreaming
Traffic – Freedom Rider
Buddy Guy – I Smell a Rat
Brenda Lee – Sweet Nothin's
The Ramones – Blitzkrieg Bop
. The O'Jays – Backstabbers
The Animals – Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
The Isley Brothers – Live itUp
The Shirelles – Mama Said
Run DMC – Walk This Way
136. Big Joe Turner – The Chicken And The Hawk (Up, Up And Away)
137. Bob Marley – Could You Be Loved
138. Metallica – Harvester of Sorrow
139. Dire Straits – Tunnel of Love

Those are some favorite songs from each artist. This way I show my Musical tastes without a full long list. Hope You're Feeling Better is my Fav from Santana, I thought it would be fun change to my favs for some artists. There you go

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 03:57am


This is cool and fun But Not a full list and I simply removed Most of the rankings
This still serves the purpose of showing Personal music tatstes
Queen – Stone Cold Crazy
Wilson Pickett – Mustang Sally
Neil Diamond – Cracklin Rosie
Earth, Wind & Fire – September
Janet Jackson – Nasty
Public Enemy – Bring The Noise
James Brown – Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Sex Machine
Jackson Browne – Load Out/Stay
The Go-Go's – Head Over Heels
The Impressions – We're A Winner
Bonnie Raitt – Too Soon to Tell
Little Willie John – All Around The World
Patti Smith – So You Want to be a Rock n'Roll Star
Jay-Z – 99 Problems

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 05:05am


Michael W, out of all the Beatles songs, 'Hey Bulldog' is your favourite?

You like what you like...thanks for sharing this list.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 06:28am


Hey Bulldog rules!

Posted by Glass Joe on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 08:25am


My favorite Beatles songs...I don't necessarily like their biggest hits at the top of my list...

Love Me Do, Yellow Submarine, Get Back...I'm sure I'm missing a couple...

Another round table?

Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 08:39am


Mr. XFL,

I totally understand your disdain for Smooth. What can I say, sometimes I like crappy songs. Truthfully, I'm just not really a Santana fan, hence them being at 197 for me. They were absolutely fantastic when I saw them live though. No One To Depend On would be my next choice.

That's probably the case with the bottom 40 or so artists on this list. I'm not a big fan of those acts, so the listed song sometimes is the only one I like by them or sometimes just the one I dislike the least.

Paul in KY,

I know it's not popular, but I absolutely frickin' love Hey Bulldog. It just has a cool groove to it and I kinda like that it's not a song that gets played very often. Other faves of theirs would be I Am The Walrus, In My Life, I'm So Tired, the Golden Slumbers suite, and most of Revolver. There are very few Beatles songs I dislike.

For the record, my favorite album of all time is Tori Amos' Little Earthquakes and my favorite song of all time is Don Henley's "The Boys of Summer". I'm not saying they are the greatest album and song ever, just my favorites.

Posted by Michael W. on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 09:07am


What's wrong with Smooth? That was a good song! It may not be Santana's best song, but it did revive his career.

Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 10:00am


Michael W., will have to give it another listen. My favourite Beatles tunes would be Nowhere Man, Eleanor Rigby, Lovely Rita, Yellow Submarine, Eight Days a Week & about 30 more.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 13:38pm


With the unfortunate passing of Meat Loaf, I think he's gonna be thr classic rock nom for this year. Now you might be thinking "didn't you sort of say the same thing about the Monkees when Mike Nesmith died" and you're right I did. You see I am a creature who comes up with predictions based off of what could give an artist an edge over others and get the nom. Whether that be through inevitable returns like Pat Benatar and Soundgarden, documentary/biopic boosts like the cases of Sparks, Motörhead, and Weird Al, but also Alanis Morissette thanks to the HBO documentary that came out. Theres also the unfortunate passing spot that could be given to the Monkees and Meat Loaf. Finally theres the obvious picks like Eminem and maybe Fiona Apple.
So I have a feeling this year is gonna be one of the more weirder years for the hall. What do you guys think.

Posted by Raichu on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 21:12pm


What I want and what i predict are two different things.

Want:
Spinners
Judas Priest
Jethro Tull
Alan Parsons Project
Pat Benatar (and the band)
Brother's Johnson
Annie Lennox
Soundgarden
Carly Simon
Chaka Khan and Rufus
B-52s
Scorpions
Ronnie James Dio
Iron Maiden
Toto
Bad Company
Connie Francis (I know she is not rock and roll) but was the first female teen idol). Put her in as Early Influence if necessary)
Big Monna Thornton, put her in as Early Influence)

Others who have had a huge and varied career up for discussion
Kenny Loggins
Kenny or Dolly or Willie...do they or any country act ever deserve to get in?
Styx...#1 in late 70s for teens.
Marvelettes...the first and would have been bigger if it weren't for Barry Gordy's favorite act "The Supremes".
Dave Matthews
Tommy James - No Shondells


Who will likely be nominated
Emineim
Mariah Carey...Let's get it over with. She deserves in with her fan base, her number ones, and her voice.
Rage Against the Machine
Somebody from heavy metal that will not make it in again.
A classic rock act from the late 70s
Duran Duran
Cher (with Sonny or without, that is the question)
Kool and the Gang

Posted by Tom Fletcher on Friday, 01/21/2022 @ 21:18pm


K-Dawg,
I willl cover the 80s Now. There is a trio of decades that comprise most of my knowledge. Now that your awesome list is Done I want to open the chat on the 1980s for future classes 2022 and beyond. I started this with the 60s and continued with the 70s for prediction chat on future classes. I often say the full decade name first so no one confuses things as age. I'm talking decades Man. The 1980s are at the heart of my teenage and very young adult years. I was in High School and then College.SO this means I certainly know the 80s first hand
I would like to start our discussion about the 1970s. The 1980s era is a great era to talk about. too. It is more modern and has high focus Right now.
Ok, I will mention The B52s, the Bangles, Duran Duran Eurythmics first. They all are very likely to be nominated in 2022 or by 2025. I think there will also be Rock singers such as Pat Benatar nominated. I should say Pat Benatar/ Neil Gerardo.
Let's get the 80s chat going. It's your turn

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 03:26am


Cher is overdue for this nomination . Please add her to this list.

Posted by Timothy L shrum on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 11:11am


K-Dawg,
We should her the 80s chat going. It's not all my personal taste. I'm NOT a Eurythmics fan but I think they will be nominated in the next couple years. I don't care for their music but it has Annie Lennox. The female trend helps them. I prefer Duran Duran. They have a good chance. Ok your turn

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 12:38pm


Ben & K-Dawg,

As far as 80's acts, There are a lot of acts from that decade that stand a chance of getting in at some point including The B-52's, Bad Brains, The Bangles, Pat Benatar, Black Flag, Chaka Khan, Phil Collins, The Dead Kennedys, De La Soul, Devo, Duran Duran, Eric B. & Rakim, Gloria Estefan, Eurythmics, Billy Idol, INXS, Iron Maiden, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Kate Bush, Kool & The Gang, Patti LaBelle, Megadeth, George Michael, Motley Crue, Motorhead, Ozzy Osbourne, Pixies, The Pointer Sisters, The Replacements, Sade, Salt-N-Pepa, Slayer, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Sting, Luther Vandross and "Weird Al" Yankovic. A few of them are a big maybe, but I feel that most of them will for sure get in at some point.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 13:58pm


So I just had a good idea sort of based on Cleveland.com's Rock Hall purge article: I'm gonna take all of the Hall Classes that I've been alive for (I was born in 2003), and kick out the more undeserving people from both the normal class and the nominated acts in favor of eligible acts from that year who have not gotten in. Starting with 2003, the acts getting the boot from the ballot are The Dells, Steve Winwood, ABBA, and the Righteous Brothers, and being nominated in their place are The Jam, Motörhead, Björk and Foreigner. Everyone else stays. Now for the actually class. AC/DC, The Clash, Elvis Costello, and the Police obviously stay. But instead of adding just 5 acts I'm gonna bump that up to 7. I'm gonna put Motörhead to get a metal act in there, and I'm gonna add Chic in there to prevent the painful experience of them being nominated 11 times. Not gonna bother with the special categories this year. Gonna do 2004 tomorrow.

Posted by Raichu on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 18:13pm


I truly believe it's time for Pat Benatar to be inducted.
And Foreigner, Eminem,

Posted by Nanette Spatafore on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 20:44pm


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Follower, Ian, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

AlexVoltaire, Nick Bambach and Jason Voigt all made their predictions for the 2022 nominees recently and their predictions are:

AlexVoltaire: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mary J. Blige, Chaka Khan, Cher, The Commodores, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, The Monkees, Alanis Morissette, New York Dolls, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Sade and Soundgarden.

Nick Bambach: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Chaka Khan, Cher, De La Soul, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, Jane's Addiction, New York Dolls, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Soundgarden, Thin Lizzy, Dionne Warwick and Warren Zevon.

Jason Voigt: A Tribe Called Quest, Pat Benatar, Cher, Phil Collins, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, The J. Geils Band, Lenny Kravitz, Cyndi Lauper, New York Dolls, Diana Ross, Soundgarden, The Spinners, War and Dionne Warwick.

Now, If all three of Alex's, Nick's and Jason's lists happen to be the list, Who do you guys think would win the fan vote and Which ones do you see being inducted out of all three prediction lists?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 20:46pm


An aside: hate ABBA if you will, disco is part of rock and roll. I feel they belong just as the Bee Gees or Donna Summer does

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 21:31pm


K-Dawg,
I'm a bit confused on your comment. Did you say you hate Abba? But you also say disco is part of rock and roll. Or is that what you're saying. You hate Abba BUT the disco belongs. I actually hate Abba.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 21:57pm


Ben:

I don't mean to speak for K-Dawg (and K-Dawg, please forgive the inference), but I think he is referring to Raichu's post, three posts above his, regarding eliminating the "undeserving" acts from the 2003 and later classes and substituting others. ABBA was one of the acts Raichu considered undeserving.

Posted by Joe S. on Saturday, 01/22/2022 @ 23:59pm


I dont hate ABBA per se, but I have no love for them either. I do feel they belong in the rrhof, though

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 00:40am


Raichu, all good. Thank you. That is what I meant

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 00:41am


Sorry. Joe S, thank you. Now I'll quit flooding the board.

80s talk coming soon

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 00:42am


K-Dawg,
I understand Now. You make sense. I was just checking. Which means I agree. I also don't like Abba much. But I do feel they belong in the RR Hall of Fame. It's a very subjective thing for Raichu to change what happened with a class. Abba had worldwide success and they are the most notable group of Sweden. Their songs are not my thing. Also although not big at all with Donna Summer I think she is deserved of the RR Hall of Fame. Ok That's it for now I will wait for the 80s chat.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 02:56am


Ok day 2, I'm now gonna change up the 2004 class. But before I do that, I'm gonna change the class of 2004, I'm gonna explain the methods to my madness:
Method 1: The ​artists snubbed from the ballot or induction can reappear in the future
Method 2: I try to go for 7 inductees to try and get as many newly eligibles in as possible
Method 3: If the new eligibles for year aren't major snubs or if there isn't that many big names that are eligible, I'll go back to previous years and use someone from there.
Method 4: if an act who was originally nominated/inducted is removed, its not because I don't like them, its just that someone needs to be sacrificed. This is the case for an act like ABBA. Its not like they're not worthy, its just someone has to go for the greater good and they were unfortunate to be snubbed.
Maybe you guys could come up with better rules/system for this idk
Enough rambling, on to 2004.
So nominees getting snubbed are Gram Parsons and the "5" Royales, while the inductees getting snubbed are The Dells, Bob Seger, and Traffic. In their place are B-52s, Scorpions, X, The Commodores, and the Pointer Sisters. As for those who who get in, I'm gonna go with Pointer Sisters, B-52s and Scorpions. Also as I was typing this I realized this is basically a bootleg version of the Revisited/Projected Project. I still think my idea is a decent idea but it needs a decent amount of tweaking.

Posted by Raichu on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 11:38am


And now all of the Ventures are dead and the class of '08 has 6 living members. How unfortunate.

So far five Inductees (Grahame Edge, Norman Thrasher, Calvin Simon, Ronnie Spector, and Don Wilson) have died since the ceremony.

Living Members of Each Class, 1986-2009 (except 2007, since in that case it's still easier to list the 4 dead members. If anyone thinks that it's easier to list the dead members of any of the other classes, let me know.)

1986: 1/17 (Jerry Lee Lewis)
1987: 2/26 (Smokey Robinson and Mike Stroller)
1988: 9/25 (Berry Gordy Jr., Diana Ross, Charlie Thomas, Paul McCartney, Ringo Star, Bob Dylan, Al Jardine, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson)
1989: 8/28 (Dion, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, Bill Wyman, Stevie Wonder, and Otis Williams)
1990: 14/30 (Bob Gaudio, Frankie Vali, Abdul "Duke" Fakir, Mick Avory, Dave Davies, Ray Davies, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend, Carole King, Lamont Dozier, Brian Holland, and Edward Holland Jr.)
1991: 8/21 (David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Roger McGuinn, Tina Turner, Richard A. Brooks, Jerry Butler, Fred Cash, and Sam Gooden)
1992: 13/30 (Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ernie Isley, Ronald Isley, Rudolph Isley, Chris Jasper, Sam Moore, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Chris Dreja, Jim McCarty, Jimmy Page and Paul Samwell-Smith)
1993: 14/28 (Eric Clapton, Doug "Cosmo" Clifford, Stu Cook, John Fogerty, John Densmore, Robby Krieger, Jimmy Merchant, Herman Santiago, Gregg Errico, Larry Graham, Jerry Martini, Freddie Stone, Rosie Stone, and Sly Stone)
1994: 14/29 (Eric Burdon, Allen Price, John Steel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Duane Eddy, Elton John, Tom Constanten, Donna Godchaux, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and Rod Stewart)
1995: 12/25 (Al Green, Dickey Betts, Jai "Jaimoe" Johanny Johanson, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, Rosalind Ashford, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Martha Reeves, Annette Sterling, and Neil Young)
1996: 12/27 (Gladys Knight, Merald "Bubba" Knight, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Grace Slick, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, Shirley Alton Reeves, Beverly Lee, John Cale, and Maureen Tucker.)
1997: 22/39 (Barry Gibb, Richie Furay, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jackie Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Tito Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Michael "Mickey" Hampton, Clarence "Fuzzy" Haskins, Billy "Bass" Nelson, Grady Thomas, Eddie Brigati, Felix Cavaliere, Gene Cornish, and Dino Danelli) This is also the most recent class where more than half of the inductees are still alive (56%), and the most alive 20th Century class.
1998: 19/30 (Don Felder, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, Timothy B. Schmit, Joe Walsh, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Christine McVee, John McVee, Stevie Nicks, Jeremey Spencer, Michelle Phillips, Jose Chepito Areas, Mike Carabello, Gregg Rolie, Carlos Santana, and Michael Shrieve)
1999: 4/22 (Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, and Mavis Staples)
2000: 15/28 (Bonnie Raitt, Philip Bailey, Larry Dunn, Johnny Graham, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Fred White, Verdine White, Andrew Woolfolk, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and Clive Davis)
2001: 14/26 (James Burton, Tom Hamilton, Joey Kramer, Joe Perry, Steven Tyler, Brad Whitford, Tommy Hunt, Terry "Buzzy" Johnson, Paul Simon, John Deacon, Brain May, Roger Taylor, Donald Fagen, and Chris Blackwell.)
2002: 11/20 (Brenda Lee, Marky Ramone, David Byrne, Chris Franz, Jerry Harrison, Tina Weymouth, Ron Blair, Mike Campbell, Stan Lynch, Benmont Tench, and Jim Stewart.)
2003: 17/23 (Brian Johnson, Phil Rudd, Cliff Williams, Angus Young, Terry Chimes, Topper Headon, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Elvis Costello, Steve Nieve, Bruce Thomas, Pete Thomas, Stewart Coppeland, Sting, Andy Summers, Bill Medley, and Mo Ostin.)
2004: 9/18 (Bob Seger, Verne Allison, Michael "Mickey" McGill, Jackson Browne, Dave Mason, Steve Winwood, Frank Beard, Billy Gibbons, and Jann S. Wenner)
2005: 12/17 (Buddy Guy, Eddie Levert, Bobby Massey, Sammy Strain, Walter Williams, Martin Chambers, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Adam Clayton, The Edge, Larry Mullen, and Seymour Stein)
2006: 19/28 (Gezer Butler, Tony Iommi, Ozzy Osbourne, Bill Ward, Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison, Debbie Harry, Frank Infante, Chris Stein, Gary Valentine, Artimus Pyle, Gary Rossington, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, Glen Matlock, Johnny Rotten, Herb Alpert, and Jerry Moss.)
2008: 6/16 (Dave Clark, Lenny Davidson, John Mellencamp, Madonna, Kenny Gamble, and Leon Huff)
2009: 15/21 (Spooner Oldham, Jeff Beck, Clarence Collins, Anthony Gourdine, Glouster "Nat" Rogers, Sammy Strain, Ernist Wright Jr., Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Jason Newstead, Robert Trujillo, Lars Ulrich, Darryl "D.M.C." McDaniels, Joseph "DJ Run" Simmons, and Wanda Jackson.)
2012: 28/70 (Tommy Facenda, Dickie Harrell, Bobby Jones, Jerry Alison, Sonny Curtis, Billy Davis, Lawson Smith, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Mike D, Ad-Rock, Donovan, Steven Adler, Duff McKagen, Dizzy Reed, Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin, Flea, John Frusciante, Jack Irons, Anthony Kiedis, Josh Klinghoffer, Cliff Martinez, Chad Smith, Kenny Jones, Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, and Glyn Johns.)

Dead members, 2007, 2010-2021 (except 2012)

2007: 15/19 (Cowboy, Ronnie Spector, Estelle Bennett, and Eddie Van Halen)
2010: 22/30 (Eric Haydock, Dave Alexander, Ron Asheton, Scott Asheton, Ellie Greenwich, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.)
2011: 9/12 (Glen Buxton, Dr. John, and Leon Russell)
2013: 15/18 (Albert King, Donna Summer, and Neil Peart)
2014: 20/24 (Kurt Cobain, Brian Epstein, Clarence Clemons, and Danny Federici)
2015: 15/27 (Bill Withers, Lee Crystal, Lou Reed, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, Billy Davenport, Stevie Ray Vaughn and everyone from The "5" Royals.)
2016: 22/25 (Terry Kath, Jon Lord, and Eazy-E)
2017: 26/28 (Tupac Shakur and Chris Squire)
2018: 19/25 (Ric Ocasek, Benjamin Orr, Graeme Edge, Ray Thomas, Nina Simmone, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe)
2019: 33/36 (Steve Clark, Graham Simpson, and Paul Atkinson)
2020: 16/23 (Michael Hossack, Keith Knudson, The Notorious B.I.G., Marc Bolan, Steve Currie, Mickey Finn, and Whitney Houston)
2021: 17/22 (Billy Preston, Randy Rhodes, Florian Schneider, Gil Scott-Heron, and Charlie Patton)

Posted by Follower on Sunday, 01/23/2022 @ 22:13pm


K-Dawg,
80s talk with you coming soon. In the meantime I'll mention some acts that will probably be nominated in the next few years. Some of them are Bryan Adams, The B-52's, The Bangles, Pat Benatar, . Devo, Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Foreigner, Don Henley, INXS, Iron Maiden, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Kate Bush, Kool & The Gang, Patti LaBelle, Motorhead, Ozzy Osborne, Sade, Thompson Twins..
There is a large amount of 80s. Ok your turn.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/24/2022 @ 03:38am


I'm not going to have a full list, but just a few thoughts about new nominations this year.
My gut feeling is that this is the year either Kool & the Gang or the Commodores will finally be nominated.
I also think Boston, Diana Ross, and Hüsker Dü will be nominated, and perhaps the Scorpions, now that Kraftwerk have been taken care of.
Finally, my real dark horse nominee is Jamiroquai. "Virtual Reality" has gotten significant buzz the last couple of years as the song of the pandemic, and there has been a good bit of hype about the 25th Anniversary of their "Travelling Without Moving" album, which is probably their best.

Posted by Kenmil on Monday, 01/24/2022 @ 07:43am


Eurythmics and both Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart.

Posted by Scott D Smith on Monday, 01/24/2022 @ 08:57am


It seems like the noms are just a few weeks away, so this is as good a time as any to post my predictions for this year, ranked from the ones I'm most confident about to least confident. We'll see if I can get more than two right this year.

1. Eminem (99.9999...% sure) - Nominated, inducted, and headlining the ceremony
2. Diana Ross (90%) - She should be the next diva up and the next double inductee
3. Duran Duran (80%) - There sure seem to be a lot of signs pointing towards them getting their first nomination
4. Salt-N-Pepa (60%) - They have to be on the radar since they check so many boxes for the Hall
5. Carly Simon (40%) - Feels like a natural choice following Carole King
6. The Monkees (60%) - I don't usually buy into a band getting nominated because a member died, but the Monkees have just one surviving member and seem long overdue
7. Judas Priest (50%) - I think they go back to Priest but it's 50/50 that they stick with Iron Maiden instead
8. Pat Benatar (50%) - Everyone was surprised when she didn't get in the first time, so a return to the ballot is in order
9. Rage Against The Machine (40%) - I think they'll keep coming back until they make it
10. Warren Zevon (30%) - There's enough buzz around him for me to believe he'll take Todd Rundgren's spot this year
11. Kate Bush (25%) - She's obviously got some strong support from the nominating committee
12. The B-52's (20%) - They'd bring a little fun to the ballot, and a little diversity too
13. Soundgarden (15%) - I'm guessing Soundgarden comes back once more before they move on to other 90's bands
14. War (15%) - They brought back Carole King and New York Dolls after long absences last year, so why not War this year
15. Fela Kuti (10%) - It was fun watching how well he did on the fan vote
16. Jethro Tull (10%) - This spot may go to a different classic rock band but I'm guessing Tull

Other considered: Kool & The Gang, Outkast, George Michael, Smashing Pumpkins, Cyndi Lauper, The Smiths

By contrast, if I were a one-person nominating committee, my nominees would be:

1. Eminem
2. Duran Duran
3. Barry White
4. Tommy James & The Shondells
5. Smashing Pumpkins
6. The B-52's
7. Beck
8. Joe Cocker
9. The Pointer Sisters
10. Cyndi Lauper
11. Salt-N-Pepa
12. Bjork
13. Judas Priest
14. Pat Benatar
15. Kool & The Gang ​
16. Bad Company

Those would be my personal preferences, not my predictions.

Posted by Michael W. on Monday, 01/24/2022 @ 14:18pm


Just a moment to refresh my picks. I know I haven't changed them, but I feel this is a pretty solid list..

K-Dawg's Not Too Early 2022 predictions:

1. Smashing Pumpkins (William Patrick Corgan, D'arcy Wretzky, James Iha, James Chamberlin) - The most perplexing omission of the 90s bands thus far. They have everything--monster albums, a diverse lineup, and a critical darling in Billy Corgan. It's only a matter of time before they enter Cleveland; hopefully, they can get the original lineup to patch things up, which is by far no easy task.

2. Rage Against the Machine (Timm Commerford, Zack de la Rocha, Tom Morello, Brad Wilk) - Tom Morello and crew will get a long hard look, especially since fellow Committee member Dave Grohl coasted in FYE with the Foo Fighters. Their politically charged music is as relevant as ever in 2021.


3. Eminem - Love him or hate him, Marshal Mathers is all but guaranteed to go in for 22, but I can totally see him going Sex Pistols on the whole affair...

4. Duran Duran (Simon Le Bon, John Taylor, Andy Taylor, Warren Cuccurullo, Nick Rhodes, Roger Taylor) - Prog adjacent, and easily one of the biggest 80s bands yet to even fail to garner a nom for the Hall; I hold to the thought this well could be their year.

5. Carly Simon - With Carole King getting over the hump, Carly is a natural songwriters choice. How is the voice behind "You're So Vain" still waiting on the outside?

6. The B52s (Fred Schneider, Keith Strickland, Cindy Wilson, Ricky Wilson, Kate Pierson) - There aren't many more clear cut choices for an originally influential band than this quintet. They are the pioneers of college rock. And they are socially conscious and LBGT darlings, so that could factor in

7. Eurythmics (Annie Lennox, David A. Stewart) - The Smiths and Joy Divison/New Order keep getting mentioned; however, since the Nom Com has proven time and again they are Americentric, the very deserving duet of Lennox and Stewart will get consideration and again, a very worthy potential inductee.

8. Foreigner (Lou Gramm, Mick Jones, Ian McDonald, Rick Willis, Dennis Elliott, Al Greenwood, Jeff Jacobs) - 70s rock is still not completely tapped out; in terms of popularity and sales, Foreigner has proven they are probably the most notable pop rock band left from a saturated genre.

9. Mariah Carey - with Whitney, Janet and now Tina Turner in, the R&B/pop pendulum is swinging Mariah's way.

10. Harry Nilsson - a choice I wouldn't have seen a year ago, but with Todd Rundgren getting a surprise induction as a performer, Harry becomes an instant candidate to be next

11. Motley Crue (Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee) - I am in the minority in thinking that the committee does want to close the trinity of 80s hair band superstars, and Crue will get another look.

12. Iron Maiden (Bruce Dickinson, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Janick Gers, Steve Harris, Nicko McBrain) - Another minority pick by me, I think that Maiden will not go as quietly as some think; they made enough noise to be heard from again. Priest could also resurface, but I don't think they're ready for Ozzy yet...

13. TLC (T-Boz Tionne Watkins, Left Eye Lisa Lopes, Chili Rozonda Thomas) - Rappers are getting in left and right, but no female hip hop act has yet been nominated. Salt N Pepa arguably should get the first look, but TLC has both the success and the tragedy (the passing of Left Eye in 2002), so they have the more compelling story. This also will lead to the eventual FYE of Beyonce in about, what, 6 years?

14. Tori Amos - The late 90s were a powerful time for feminism and the Lilith Fair. Tori Amos is innovative and a critical darling. She has the influence and reputation to get a look.

15. Bad Company (Paul Rodgers, Brian Howe, Mick Ralphs, Boz Burrell, Steve Price, Simon Kirke) - Always on the top of my list for omissions, Paul Rodgers NEEDS to be in. It's criminal they keep passing him over.

16. The Monkees (Davy Jones, Michael Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Peter Tork) - to my mind, the last great 60s group waiting on the outside. 2 members already passed (and Mike Nesmith recently did as well) and they are embarking on a farewell tour this upcoming year. It's time to put them in the RRHOF

17. Soundgarden (Chris Cornell, Kim Thayil, Ben Shepard, Matt Cameron) - Grunge isn't dead yet, and Soundgarden could get another look. AIC also should get some consideration in this slot.

18. The Commodores (William King, Lionel Richie, JD Nicholas, Thomas McCrary, Milan Williams, Ronald LaPread, Walter Orange) - Lionel Richie and his original group still remain a great case to get some more 70s R&B in. The Hall can't get this right either.

19. Phil Collins - My WTF pick of the entire list; the Hall likes to put artists in more than once, regardless if they're worthy or it steals a spot from a long deserved and forgotten person. Phil is a big name who would get attention. And, for his credit, that drum solo on "In the AIr Tonight"...well...legend

I don't do predictions this time around until maybe right before the announcement of who will be inducted. I do expect still a more rock heavy presence than we might otherwise get with changing trends in music (by 1996, we had really begun to shift away from rock music in the pop charts)

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 03:25am


K-Dawg,
I'm guessing the 80s chat is soon. In the meantime I'll say that you have a solid list. It's similar to mine. I have about half in common with you.
And I strongly agree with you. I don't do predictions until maybe right before the announcement of who will be inducted. But in fact I wait until after the nominee announcement. I also do expect still a more rock heavy presence. even with changing trends in music. By 1996 we had really begun to see much less rock in the rock charts. But back in 1986 there was still a lot of Rock on the charts. 1985,1986 is ,more of a focus for the Hall than anything in the 90s. Ha and that leads to the 80s chat

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 03:55am


K-Dawg,
I anticipate your 80s feedback and Info. While I wait I think richie has the right idea. I was not just predicting 2022 80s Nominees. I had 2022-2025 In mind. I think Don Henley, Patti LaBelle and Sade among. Others willl not be nominated this year but SOON. The Hall loves the 80s these days. They skipped over most 80s years previously. Hear from ya when you can

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 11:59am


Something just for fun. Seems like the prediction lists are very similar to each other. I'll try to get a full ballot with names not mentioned already.

Pulp
Marianne Faithfull
The Buzzcocks
Lucinda Williams
Tears For Fears
Moby
The Pogues
Miami Sound Machine
X
Cypress Hill
Peter Tosh
Kris Kristofferson
Grace Jones
Jeff Buckley
Sleater-Kinney
Tracy Chapman

Posted by MichaelEU on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 13:31pm


So 2 more weeks, maybe?

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 14:31pm


Nominees:
B-52s
Garbage
Dionne Warwick
Pat Benatar
Snoop Dogg
Eminem
Foreigner
Beck
Mary J Blige
Eurythmics
Joy Division/New Order
Bryan Adams
The Commodores
Kool and the Gang
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Peter Paul and Mary
George Michael

Posted by John Howard on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 18:34pm


Here are my predictions again:

Warren Zevon
Pat Benatar
The Monkees
Rage Against The Machine
Eminem
Diana Ross
Iron Maiden
The B-52's
Eurythmics
Jane's Addiction
George Michael
Dionne Warwick
Duran Duran
Chaka Khan/Rufus
Fiona Apple
De La Soul

The Class
(From Most likely to on the edge):

Eminem
Diana Ross
Duran Duran
Warren Zevon
The Monkees
Pat Benatar

Early Influence:
Joe Tex
Big Mama Thornton
MC5

Musical Excellence:
Chaka Khan
Carol Kaye
Steve Vai

AE: Rick Rubin

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 01/25/2022 @ 22:58pm


regarding Female acts for nominations this year: I think that The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mary J. Blige, Kate Bush, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, Cher, Eurythmics, Cyndi Lauper, Carly Simon and Dionne Warwick are all strong possibilities for getting nominated this year, I really can't see Diana Ross in the discussion for this year, Not saying she doesn't deserve induction as a solo artist because she really does deserve induction as a solo artist, but if you do want to throw a female name out there for this year, and I know that you will not agree with me on it, but I would mention Celine Dion. Yes, I know that she's not a critical favorite by any means, but you can't deny her massive record sales and global popularity, Here's some of her accomplishments:

She's won 5 Grammy Awards, 20 Juno Awards, 45 ADISQ/Felix Awards, 5 American Music Awards, 1 People's Choice Award, 7 Billboard Music Awards, 12 World Music Awards, 3 Golden Globes and 2 Oscars.

She's the world's best-selling female artist of all-time with nearly 300 million records sold.

She received the Order of Canada in 2013 and an honorary degree from Berklee College of Music last year in 2021.

She has been inducted into Canada's Walk of Fame, the Canadian Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame and has received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

She was honored with the Diamond Award in 2004 in recognition as the world's best-selling female artist of all-time and in 2007, she was honored with the Legend Award for Outstanding Contribution to Music at the World Music Awards.

She was honored with the Billboard Icon Award in 2016 at the Billboard Music Awards just four months after her husband Rene Angelil's death and gave an emotional speech that night.

She has headlined two sold-out residency shows at The Colosseum at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, the first being A New Day from March 25, 2003-December 15, 2007 and then Celine from March 15, 2011-June 8, 2019. for 13 non-consecutive years, she became the Queen of Las Vegas with her legendary performances there in Vegas.

Her 2008-2009 Taking Chances World Tour is the third highest-grossing tour ever by a Female Artist behind only Madonna with her MDNA and Sticky & Sweet Tours.

She has had 12 Top 10 Albums (including 5 #1 Albums) on the Billboard 200 chart, has had 10 Top 10 Hits (including 4 #1 Hits) on the Billboard Hot 100 chart and has had 21 Top 10 Hits (including 11 #1 Hits) on the Adult Contemporary chart.

So all in all, she has had more credentials and should be in the discussion for this year's nominations more than Diana Ross IMO. Plus, Celine has had some health issues over the past year with her severe and persistent muscle spasms that has forced her to postpone her residency at Resorts World in Las Vegas and cancel the remaining dates of the North American leg of her Courage World Tour, and there seems to be an urgency to get people that are not in good health nominated and inducted before they pass away, so I think that she should be in the conversation for this year's nominations more than Diana Ross, The one thing that might hold her back from getting considered this year is she still hasn't been inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame at The Juno Awards in Canada, so she might not get nominated for the Rock Hall until she gets into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame. but I think that she should be in the conversation/discussion for the Rock Hall this year more than Diana Ross IMO.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 00:12am


Richie

Can you make that list you have in the past of what regulars picked who and the counts? Those are always fun to see. Thanks in advance

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 00:34am


K-Dawg,
Ok. I can look at your 80s picks on your nominee predictions you re posted/refeshed.
Duran Duran I agree with Prog adjacent, and easily one of the biggest 80s bands. But they fail to garner a nomination for the Hall; I will also hold to the thought 2022 well could be their year. It makes sense after Depeche Mode and the Go-Gos are inducted Now.
B52s-They are a clear cut choice for an originally influential band.. They are the pioneers of college rock. Songs like Rock Lobster and Private Idaho were cutting edge in the early 80s.
Motley Crue- I am basically with everyone else around here that the Hall is holding off on them. They are much more controversial than either Bon Jovi and Def Leppard. They don't seem to be a priority.
Iron Maiden- I'm with you on this one. , I think that Maiden will not go as quietly as some think; they made a huge splash to make themselves appear on a ballot again.

Phil Collins - Yes, the Hall likes to put artists in more than once, if its a huge Solo act. Phil is a big star who would get attention. And, for his credit, that drum solo on "In the AIr Tonight"..is awesome and the drums on I Don't Care Anymore are also Veryyy cool.
I hope its Ok that I commented on your 80s acts to save time. I'm sorry. You 80s picks are wise. Hear from ya

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 03:00am


K-Dawg,
Now then. Seeing what regulars picked who would be terrific and the counts. Richie has done it in the past. I hope he does soon

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 09:35am


Ben and K-Dawg,

Here's all the FRL regulars that have made their predictions for the 2022 nominees and they are:

Greg F: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, Cher, Duran Duran, Eminem, Judas Priest, Kool & The Gang, New York Dolls, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Carly Simon, The Smiths, Soundgarden and Dionne Warwick.

RG: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eric B. & Rakim, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Rage Against The Machine, Carly Simon, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, The Spinners, Toots & The Maytals and Dionne Warwick.

Zack F: Bad Brains, Pat Benatar, Daft Punk, Devo, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Foreigner, Judas Priest, Pixies, Diana Ross, Rufus With Chaka Khan, Salt-N-Pepa, Soundgarden, Weezer and Warren Zevon.

AlexVoltaire: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mary J. Blige, Chaka Khan, Cher, The Commodores, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, The Monkees, Alanis Morissette, New York Dolls, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Sade and Soundgarden.

Casper: Bad Company, Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, Cher, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Cyndi Lauper, Motley Crue, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Smashing Pumpkins, The Smiths, Weezer and Warren Zevon.

K-Dawg: Tori Amos, The B-52's, Bad Company, Mariah Carey, Phil Collins, The Commodores, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Foreigner, Iron Maiden, The Monkees, Motley Crue, Harry Nilsson, Rage Against The Machine, Carly Simon, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden and TLC.

dmg: Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, Cher, Daft Punk, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Joy Division/New Order, Judas Priest, Madness, The Marvelettes, MC5, Soundgarden, The Spinners, Thin Lizzy and Big Mama Thornton.

Ben: Bryan Adams, The B-52's, The Bangles, Pat Benatar, Mary J. Blige, Chaka Khan, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, Jethro Tull, The Monkees, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Carly Simon, Soundgarden, Dionne Warwick and Warren Zevon.

Nick: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Chaka Khan, Cher, De La Soul, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, Jane's Addiction, New York Dolls, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Soundgarden, Thin Lizzy, Dionne Warwick and Warren Zevon.

Ian: Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Mariah Carey, Cher, The Commodores, Duran Duran, Eminem, The Fugees, Iron Maiden, The Monkees, New York Dolls, Rage Against The Machine, Rufus With Chaka Khan, Soundgarden, Sparks and Dionne Warwick.

Lax39: Mary J. Blige, Kate Bush, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, The Commodores/Lionel Richie, Dave Matthews Band, Eminem, Brian Eno, Eurythmics, Judas Priest, The Monkees, Nas, Diana Ross, Carly Simon, Smashing Pumpkins, Sonic Youth and Sting.

Jason Voigt: A Tribe Called Quest, Pat Benatar, Cher, Phil Collins, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, The J. Geils Band, Lenny Kravitz, Cyndi Lauper, New York Dolls, Diana Ross, Soundgarden, The Spinners, War and Dionne Warwick.

Raichu: Fiona Apple, Beck, Pat Benatar, Eminem, Joy Division/New Order, Kool & The Gang, Fela Kuti, Meat Loaf, The Monkees, Alanis Morissette, Motorhead, Rage Against The Machine, Slade, Soundgarden, Sparks, Dionne Warwick and "Weird Al" Yankovic.

Shrek: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, The Commodores, Daft Punk, Dave Matthews Band, De La Soul, Devo, Duran Duran, Eminem, Iron Maiden, New York Dolls, Rage Against The Machine, Sleater-Kinney and Dionne Warwick.

Darren: Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, Cher, Duran Duran, Eminem, Jane's Addiction, Judas Priest, George Michael, Rage Against The Machine, Sade, Salt-N-Pepa, Dionne Warwick and Warren Zevon.

Michael W: The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Duran Duran, Eminem, Jethro Tull, Judas Priest, Fela Kuti, The Monkees, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Salt-N-Pepa, Carly Simon, Soundgarden, War and Warren Zevon.

Plebeian: Fiona Apple, The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan, De La Soul, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Iron Maiden, Jane's Addiction, George Michael, The Monkees, Rage Against The Machine, Diana Ross, Dionne Warwick and Warren Zevon.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 10:16am


Ben, K-Dawg, richie
Out of all the predictions, which one would be the most likely to come true and which one would be the most likely not to come true

Posted by Raichu on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 10:45am


Thank you, Richie.

No Enig?

80s talk later today I'd I can squeeze in a few minutes

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 12:22pm


K-Dawg,
Ha I was taking a short cut with your predictions that are 80s. But thats really a short cut. I had wanted to discuss 80s possibilities from now to about 2026. Nothing tooo crazy like richie does. The 80s is the last decade I have extensive knowledge. And this includes acts from Cyndi Lauper. Duran Duran to Iron Maiden. And of course I know lotss about Journey and Bon Jovi. People like Ozzy, Sade and Thompson Twins I predict for a few years from Now. I figure by 2026. Ok Go ahead

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 13:45pm


RG,

What are your final predictions for the 2022 nominees before they are likely announced in February?.

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 18:44pm


Ok, the 80s...where do I begin.

First off, we already have had a chunk of deserving artists put in. It has also caused the ire of the classic rock gatekeepers, some of whom don't think anything after 1979 qualifies as worthy of being called "classic". However, from Prince to Madonna to Michael Jackson, from U2 to REM to the Cars to Run DMC, I would say it's already very well represented. With the recent inclusions of Whitney, Janet Jackson, and others, it has diversified well. The 80s have many more genres represented than the 70s. There is a bit left, but it's harder for me personally to nail it down.

The obvious ones to me are new wave. Depeche and the Cure are in, but there's quite a few other pioneers still not mentioned. The Eurythmics, Joy Division/New Order, the Smiths, Midnight Oil...peripherally, the B52s, INXS, and Kate Bush are also related.

Off the bat, and I know I'm skipping genres like crazy, Duran Duran is my first choice for obvious FTNI (first time nominee induction). They have the hits, they have the acclaim, they have the influence. They should've been nommed last year, and I think they would've been elected had that been the case.

Who else? Going beyond what Ben mentioned, I'd say some good options are Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Salt N Pepa, Lionel Richie, Cyndi Lauper, Culture Club, Tears for Fears, Sonic Youth...

I am gonna throw a bone out there--Will Smith. He might get a shot as part of DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, or one on his own (I think his solo career is technically eligible right now). He is iconic enough to be appealing to the RRHOF to get butts in the door, and technically, the Fresh Prince did come out in the 80s.

That's some free association for the moment. What do y'all think?

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 04:13am


K-Dawg,
Awesome Comments. I'm a later Classic Rock Gatekeeper. Case in point I was only 14 in 1979. Soo obviously I think there is a LOT that's classic after 1979. You mentioned U2 to REM. I liked both bands when I was about 18. I was 18 in 1983. U2 had a breakthrough with War and REM had some good early stuff. The Pretenders were huge. They are inductees. I saw them a couple times. I also love Early Dire Straits. The albums Making Movies and Love Over Gold are great. Soo good. There is the Cars covered. I love the Cars. In a different genre Whitney Houston is fine. That represents 80s pop VERYY well. Her Orange album is enjoyable listening. It's called Whitney.
Duran Duran should definitely be coming soon. Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Salt N Pepa, Lionel Richie, Cyndi Lauper, Culture Club, Tears for Fears are not ones I thought of. Good picks. I did pick Thompson Twins though
I do NOT think WILL SMITH solo is eligible yet. JAZZY JEFF is. That's in the 80s. A rather good chance of that one. Don't know them as well as Rock

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 06:49am


I'll add a few more to your 80's list.

The Pixies most definitely deserve to be mentioned. A key band in the transition from 80's new wave to 90's alternative, they made some of the most noteworthy music of the decade. Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are fantastic albums.

The Pointer Sisters started in the 70's but had the bulk of their success in the 80's. I'm So Excited is an iconic song and they had plenty of other material that is good enough to get them inducted.

Sinead O'Connor is a polarizing figure, but I think she should get some consideration. Outside of her music, which is under-appreciated, her public persona should garner some attention as well. People who didn't know any of her songs still knew who she was, and that has to count for something.

I know they are very light and fluffy, but don't discount Huey Lewis & the News. Did they revolutionize the music industry? No. Were they exceptionally innovative? No. But their level of popularity and success at their peak makes a case for them to be considered in the same way that Bon Jovi was.

Someone that no one ever mentions but that I think deserves a shot is Tracy Chapman. She consistently put out great music and enjoyed success even though she didn't fit into any of the popular genres. Her songwriting and vocal delivery are exceptional.

A few more dark horses to think about: XTC, Squeeze, Traveling Wilburys, Pantera

Posted by Michael W. on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 07:18am


Yeah Will Smith solo isn't eligible until next year. His first solo album Big Willie Style and first solo single Men in Black were released 1997. I'm not sure if either one of them would get a serious look.

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 07:26am


So I gathered the artists that everyone predicted and put them in alphabetical order:Fiona Apple: 2
A Tribe Called Quest: 1
Tori Amos: 1
Bryan Adams: 1
Pat Benatar: 13
B-52's: 9
Kate Bush: 4
Mary J. Blige: 4
Bad Company: 2
Bad Brains: 1
The Bangles: 1
Beck: 1
Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan: 8
Mariah Carey: 8
Cher: 8
Phil Collins: 2
The Commodores/Lionel Richie: 5
Duran Duran: 14
Devo: 2
Daft Punk: 3
Dave Matthews Band: 2
De La Soul: 3
Dr Dre: 1
Brian Eno: 1
Eminem: 17
Eric B. and Rakim: 1
Eurythmics: 6
Foreigner: 2
The Fugees: 1
Iron Maiden: 7
Judas Priest: 7
Jethro Tull: 2
Kool and the Gang: 2
Joy Division/New Order: 3
Jane's Addiction: 1
J.Geils Band: 1
Fela Kuti: 2
Lenny Kravitz: 1
Cyndi Lauper: 2
The Monkees: 8
Motley Crue: 2
Alanis Morrisette: 2
Meat Loaf: 1
Motorhead: 1
George Michael: 2
Madness: 1
The Marvelettes: 1
MC5: 1
New York Dolls: 6
Nas: 1
Harry Nilsson: 1
Outkast: 4
Pixies: 1
Rage Against the Machine: 13
Diana Ross: 8
Carly Simon: 6
Smashing Pumpkins: 4
Soundgarden: 12
The Smiths: 2
The Spinners: 3
Sade: 2
Sparks: 2
Sonic Youth: 1
Sting: 1
Salt-N-Pepa: 3
Slade: 1
Sleater-Kinney: 1
TLC: 1
Thin Lizzy: 2
Toots and the Maytals: 1
Big Mama Thorton: 1
Dionne Warwick: 10
Weezer: 2
Weird Al: 1
War: 1
Warren Zevon: 7

Posted by Raichu on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 12:39pm


Ben, K-Dawg and Raichu,

I forgot one more prediction to add to the list and it is:

Ozmeow1900: Fiona Apple, Pat Benatar, Bjork, Mariah Carey, Cher, Daft Punk, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eurythmics, Tommy James & The Shondells, Kool & The Gang, OutKast, Dolly Parton, The Runaways, The Shangri-La's, Smashing Pumpkins, The Smiths, Soundgarden, Dionne Warwick and Mary Wells.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 13:20pm


Our Consensus Ballot (5 Votes or More):

Pat Benatar
B-52's
Chaka Khan/Rufus With Chaka Khan
Mariah Carey
Cher
Duran Duran
Eminem
Eurythmics
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
The Monkees
New York Dolls
OutKast
Lionel Richie/Commodores
Rage Against The Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 13:55pm


9/21 have a female member
8/21 have a person of color

60s: Monkees, Dionne Warwick (2)

70s: Chaka Khan with Rufus, New York Dolls, Lionel Richie with Commodores, Diana Ross, Carly Simon, Warren Zevon (6)

80s: Pat Benatar, B-52's, Cher (solo), Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest (7)

90s: Mariah Carey, Eminem, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden (6)

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 14:02pm


Michael W., good choices. To be fair, I mentioned the Pointer Sisters as being 70s..and agree. Conversely, I am a huge Pantera fan, but tend to label them 90s as most of their commercial success happened from 1990 onward with Cowboys From Hell and Far Beyond Driven.

The Human League is another dark horse...and dare I say, Roxette? I know I'm going into personal faves now, but I've seen lesser influential acts get acclaim...

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 14:07pm


What about Enigmaticus? He's posted his a few times...

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 14:08pm


I'd have a mixed reaction to that ballot. The excitement would come from longtime ballot snubs such as The Monkees, Diana Ross, Warren Zevon, B-52's, Duran Duran, OutKast and Smashing Pumpkins finally earning their recognition. But the disappointment would come from the same old ballot clogging with names that don't have the votes for induction at this time.

Likely inductees would be The Monkees, Diana Ross, Warren Zevon, Cher, Mariah Carey, Eminem and OutKast. Potential spoilers would include Eurythmics, New York Dolls and Smashing Pumpkins.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 14:10pm


If anything, that would be the most competitive ballot in decades. Diana Ross is the only name I'm 100% certain gets in no matter what.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 14:12pm


Raichu,
When you gathered the artists that everyone predicted and put them in alphabetical order you forgot the MONKEES. Check it. I think you did. It happens

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 16:49pm


Ben,
You're right I did miss them. I'll add them after adding Meow's predictions

Posted by Raichu on Thursday, 01/27/2022 @ 16:57pm


Raichu,
MY bad. I looked again the Monkees is there. You DID NOT forget the Monkees, And you made a mistake that you thought I was right. LOL
Our eyes tricked us both. Unless you know a secret way to edit. Your M artists are Not in exact order. We both thought you forgot. NO need to re write. HA

Posted by Ben on Friday, 01/28/2022 @ 03:16am


Ben,

I'll still have to rewrite anyways to add Ozmeow's predictions

Posted by Raichu on Friday, 01/28/2022 @ 06:27am


Hey Guys,

On this week's episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast, Joe Kwaczala said that Meat Loaf died on January 20, the day before the Rock Hall Nominating Committee got together to help create this year's ballot, so the Nominating Committee met last Friday, January 21 to help determine this year's ballot, so nominations should be coming either this week coming up or the week after, With this news today, You guys should all make your final predictions for this year's nominees before the nominees are announced either this week coming up or the week after.

Posted by richie on Friday, 01/28/2022 @ 18:45pm


Ok, way past time for the below artists.
The Monkees
Uriah Heep
ELP
Jethro Tull
Leo Sayer
Blue Oyster Cult
Melanie Safka

Posted by mark devant on Friday, 01/28/2022 @ 18:47pm


Ok so my final nominee predictions are the same as before. However I am gonna predict the inductees based off my previous prediction. My inductee predictions are:
Pat Benatar
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Motörhead
The Monkees
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden
Meat Loaf, Sparks and Fiona Apple could also squeeze in there somehow.

Posted by Raichu on Friday, 01/28/2022 @ 20:30pm


K-Dawg,
I looked again at your 80s comments. A few other pioneers not mentioned by me Midnight Oil.. INXS, and Kate Bush are also related for sure. Hey Midnight Oil. I own a great album Diesel and Dust. It was a big breakthrough for them in 1988. I enjoy more than just Bed are Burning. I like about half the album. Put Down that Weapon and Dream World I did Not think of them. They can be nominated to represent Australia.
I think Motley Crue have a chance eventually but not until about 2030. Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Salt N Pepa, Lionel Richie, Cyndi Lauper, Culture Club, Tears for Fears could be on ballots much sooner. I think Thompson Twins have a better chance than Culture Club and Tears for Fears. The Twins have slightly more material, The Thomson Twins had success with Into the Gap. Iam not a huge New Wave fan but the T Twins come to mind. .

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 03:38am


The 80s, seemingly, have been covered much better than the 70s. There are acts still to be had, but there are fewer genres not represented.The underground stuff, Sonic Youth, the Dead Kennedys, Pixies, Misfits, I'm missing some I know. If you haven't heard Sonic Youth in particular, I urge you to check them out. They are a different breed and are the true pioneers of what would become "the new alternative" after grunge settled down in the mid-90s..

I don't know if this closes the book on the 80s, but I would think there's some stuff left. Are we up for the 90s next?

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 05:47am


K-Dawg,
Awhile back I said I had this idea to cover the 3 decades I know a lot about in music. I'm possibly about 10 years older or so older than you. My Music awareness started In the Early 70s. I listened to music every single day in the late 70s and all through the 80s. Ahh but I was Not intending on a 90s chat. I am much more skimpy with the 90s acts. I still listened heavily to music in General 1991-1993. But I then moved away from Known acts that can easily be nominated and inducted. I was planning on resting from the site until the Real nominee announcement. I basically led the chats for 1960s, 70s and 80s. I would want you to lead the way for 90s. I can stick around for some comments and then disappear to focus just Important things in Life. I will return when Real nominees are announced. Ok Go ahead.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 10:42am


Has anyone in the past got a prediction 100% right or at least predicted the majority of the inductees/nominees.

Also this is an excuse to advertise the Discord server again. I know you guys are probably sick of me advertising it but I think it could be way for the community here to become more connected if that makes sense: https://discord.gg/38aKMHeTq8

Posted by Raichu on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 11:11am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, Enig, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Follower, Ian, dmg, Jordan Einstein and others,

On this week's episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast, Joe Kwaczala said that Meat Loaf died on January 20, the day before the Rock Hall Nominating Committee got together to help create the 2022 ballot, so the Nominating Committee got together to help create the 2022 ballot, so the Nominating Committee met last Friday, January 21 to help determine this year's ballot, so the nominations should be coming either this week coming up or the week after.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 11:21am


RG, Plebeian, Greg F, Ben, Michael W, Shrek, Enig, K-Dawg, Zack F, Raichu, Follower, Ian, dmg, Tom H, Jordan Einstein and others,

On this week's episode of the Who Cares About The Rock Hall? podcast, Joe Kwaczala said that Meat Loaf died on January 20, the day before the Rock Hall Nominating Committee got together to help create the 2022 ballot, so the Nominating Committee met last Friday, January 21 to help determine this year's ballot, so the nominations should be coming either this week coming up or the week after.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 11:34am


Ok I'm gonna ask 2 questions.

1: Richie do you intend to post your question 3 times?

2: How many of you guys are actually intrested in joining/the idea of a FRL community discord server. I honestly think its a good idea. It could allow us to discuss things in a better way then we could here.

Follow up questions: How many of you actually have Discord and are you guys sick of me constantly posting the Discord server invite?

Posted by Raichu on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 12:07pm


Raichu, 2 things:

1: I'm actually quite intrigued by your idea of a FRL community discord server, but the truth is -- and I'm sorry for sounding like a doofus here -- I've never heard of Discord. If you could explain to me what it is and how it works, or send me a link. I might have a better understanding of Discord, and perhaps joining a community. I hope you're involved in it.

2: Don't worry about Richie. He tends to ask the same questions over and over again. If I were you, Raichu, I'd just ignore Richie -- like I do everyday.

Posted by Johnny on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 14:51pm


Johnny,

Discord is basically a chat room app. If u wanna join you'll have to make an account for it first.

Posted by Raichu on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 18:45pm


OK, Raichu, fair enough. I already have a Facebook account, so I might just stick with that instead.

Posted by Johnny on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 19:32pm


Raichu,

Thank You so much regarding Discord, but no, I won't be joining Discord, I'm sorry Raichu, but I already have both a Facebook account (www.facebook.com/richie.leitner.9/) and a Twitter account (twitter.com/RichieLeitner12), Thank You so much for telling me about Discord and giving me information about it, but no, I won't be joining, Thanks anyways and Please stay safe and Have a great night.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 19:59pm


Richie can be competitive, but he's very useful to keep track of all the nominees and lists for sure. I call him useful.

Anyone else have any thoughts on the 80s before we jump ship to the 90s? I would encourage anyone else to jump in.

Lastly, Raichu, I like your idea but I tried to download discord for football talk and my computer is just left with an error every time I log on...so I'll pass sorry

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 21:24pm


REPETITIVE, not competitive..sorry...

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 21:49pm


I'm going to list off all the acts that I feel have the best chance of getting inducted in the next 20 years and they are:

1960's/1970's:

Bad Company
Big Star
Blue Oyster Cult
Boston
The Carpenters
Cher
Joe Cocker
The Commodores
Jim Croce
Nick Drake
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Roberta Flack
Foreigner
The Guess Who
Donny Hathaway
The J. Geils Band
Tommy James & The Shondells
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
The Marvelettes
MC5
The Monkees
Mott The Hoople
Willie Nelson
New York Dolls
Harry Nilsson
John Prine
Gram Parsons
Dolly Parton
Procol Harum
Diana Ross
Rufus With Chaka Khan
The Shangri-La's
Slade
Carly Simon
The Spinners
Steppenwolf
Sweet
Thin Lizzy
War
Dionne Warwick
Mary Wells
Barry White
Warren Zevon

1980's:

Afrika Bambaataa
Anthrax
The B-52's
Bad Brains
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Black Flag
Kate Bush
Chaka Khan
Phil Collins
The Dead Kennedys
De La Soul
Devo
Duran Duran
Gloria Estefan
Eric B. & Rakim
Eurythmics
Husker Du
Billy Idol
INXS
Iron Maiden
The Jam
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
Kool & The Gang
Patti LaBelle
Los Lobos
Cyndi Lauper
Megadeth
George Michael
Motley Crue
Motorhead
Ozzy Osbourne
Pixies
The Replacements
Lionel Richie
Salt-N-Pepa
Scorpions
Siouxsie & The Banshees
The Smiths
Sonic Youth
Sting
Steve Winwood
Luther Vandross
"Weird Al" Yankovic

1990's:

A Tribe Called Quest
Aaliyah
Alice In Chains
Tori Amos
Fiona Apple
Backstreet Boys
Beck
Bjork
Mary J. Blige
Blink-182
Blur
Boyz II Men
Mariah Carey
The Chemical Brothers
Sheryl Crow
Dave Matthews Band
Snoop Dogg
Dr. Dre
The Fugees
PJ Harvey
Lauryn Hill
Jane's Addiction
Lenny Kravitz
Queen Latifah
Alanis Morissette
Nas
No Doubt
Oasis
OutKast
Pantera
Phish
Rage Against The Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Stone Temple Pilots
TLC
Tool
Weezer
Wu-Tang Clan

2000's/2010's:

Adele
Christina Aguilera
Arcade Fire
Beyoncé
The Black Keys
Coldplay
Daft Punk
Destiny's Child
Drake
Missy Elliott
Eminem
Lady Gaga
Alicia Keys
The Killers
LCD Soundsystem
Kendrick Lamar
Linkin Park
Bruno Mars
John Mayer
Nicki Minaj
Muse
Queens Of The Stone Age
Rihanna
Busta Rhymes
Britney Spears
The Strokes
Taylor Swift
System Of A Down
Justin Timberlake
Usher
Vampire Weekend
Lil Wayne
Kanye West
The White Stripes
Amy Winehouse

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 22:38pm


Richie, in the 2000's/2010's, you forgot the following metal bands: Korn, Disturbed, Slipknot, Dream Theater, Mastodon & DragonForce.

Posted by Johnny on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 22:51pm


Johnny,

I'll add Korn to my list for the 1990's and Slipknot for the 2000's/2010's list, I just don't see Disturbed, Dream Theater, Mastodon or DragonForce ever being nominated or even being inducted and by the way, are you Johnny DuBiel from Facebook?.

Posted by richie on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 22:55pm


I'm jumping slightly ahead, Richie, but the Gorillaz maybe?

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 01/29/2022 @ 23:59pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 30, 2021. In approximately 1 more day, Lobsterfest will begin and in 4 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

In my honest opinion, If a critically beloved artist has not waited at least 10 years past their eligibility date to be inducted, then they have not been snubbed under any circumstances whatsoever.

If I were to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation do not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

11. The B-52s- I found it quite amazing that Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson have been together for almost 46 years.

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick
8. The B-52s
9. Lionel Richie

In my honest opinion, those 9 artists would make a fantastic class of inductees.

Let's face basic facts: I definitely do not like Eminem!

In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait at least another nine hundred ninety nine trillion nine hundred ninety nine billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre. as a solo artist!



Here are the other 8:

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lenox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time.

15. Cher- A true music icon for almost 60 years.

16. Willie Nelson- "............................................,.,."

17. Kool & The Gang

18. Lionel Richie (solo), or maybe The Commodores

19. Meatloaf (due to his recent passing)

20. John Prine (due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19) almost 2 years ago.

21. Eminem- even though I strongly detest him.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 02:43am


Richie,

Here's how I would organize the artists you listed into tiers based on how likely I think they are to be inducted.

Future FYEs:
Adele
Beyoncé
Coldplay
Eminem
Lady Gaga
Kendrick Lamar
Taylor Swift
Kanye West
The White Stripes

Probably inducted soon (or soon after they become eligible), if they're on a ballot:
Bad Company
Cher
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
Willie Nelson
Dolly Parton
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Dionne Warwick
The B-52's
Pat Benatar
Devo
Duran Duran
Eurythmics
Iron Maiden
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
George Michael
The Smiths
Beck
Mariah Carey
OutKast
Rage Against The Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Wu-Tang Clan
The Strokes
Justin Timberlake
Amy Winehouse

Will Eventually Get In:
Boston
The Commodores
Foreigner
New York Dolls
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy
The Bangles
Kate Bush
Phil Collins
Gloria Estefan
INXS
Kool & The Gang
Patti LaBelle
Cyndi Lauper
Motley Crue
Motorhead
Pixies
Salt-N-Pepa
A Tribe Called Quest
Alice In Chains
Tori Amos
Fiona Apple
Bjork
Mary J. Blige
Blink-182
Sheryl Crow
Dave Matthews Band
Snoop Dogg
Dr. Dre (could be either as a performer or Musical Excellence)
Queen Latifah
Alanis Morissette
Jane's Addiction
Nas
No Doubt
Oasis
TLC
Weezer
Daft Punk
Destiny's Child
Drake
Missy Elliott
Alicia Keys
The Killers
Bruno Mars
John Mayer
Nicki Minaj
Busta Rhymes
Britney Spears
Usher
Vampire Weekend
Lil Wayne

50/50:
The Carpenters
Jim Croce
Roberta Flack
The Guess Who
Tommy James & The Shondells
Harry Nilsson
John Prine
Gram Parsons
Barry White
Warren Zevon
The Dead Kennedys
De La Soul
Billy Idol
The Replacements
Lionel Richie
Scorpions
Sonic Youth
Sting
Steve Winwood
Luther Vandross
Blur
Boyz II Men
Lauryn Hill
Phish
Stone Temple Pilots
Christina Aguilera
Arcade Fire
The Black Keys
LCD Soundsystem
Linkin Park
Muse
Queens Of The Stone Age

Likely won't get in through the front door, but could be good candidates for a side category:
Big Star
Joe Cocker
The Marvelettes
MC5
King Crimson
The Shangri-La's
Afrika Bambaataa
Chaka Khan
Eric B. & Rakim
"Weird Al" Yankovic

Doubt they ever get in:
Blue Oyster Cult
Nick Drake
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Donny Hathaway
The J. Geils Band
Mott The Hoople
Procol Harum
Rufus With Chaka Khan (only because Chaka solo will get in as a Musical Excellence inductee this year)
Slade
Steppenwolf
Sweet
War
Mary Wells
Anthrax
Bad Brains
Black Flag
Husker Du
The Jam
Los Lobos
Megadeth
Ozzy Osbourne
Siouxsie & The Banshees
Backstreet Boys
The Chemical Brothers
The Fugees
PJ Harvey
Lenny Kravitz
Pantera
Tool
System Of A Down
Korn
Slipknot

K-Dawg,

I adore the Gorillaz, but I think the "fictional animated band" factor works against them in terms of being taken seriously in the induction process.

Final nominee predictions coming soon.

Posted by RG on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 10:15am


RG, I think that's what has hampered the Monkees for over 30 years, but they were a real band when it was all said and done...it's another case of cherry picking by the RRHOF...

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 12:30pm


RG,

I also mentioned Rihanna and Slayer as well in addition to the other acts that we mentioned, What tier would you put Rihanna and Slayer in (for Rihanna: Future FYEs, Probably inducted soon (or soon after they become eligible), if they're on a ballot, Will Eventually Get In or 50/50?. and for Slayer: Will Eventually Get In, 50/50 or Doubt they ever get in)?.

Posted by richie on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 14:01pm


Richie,

Rihanna is on the bubble of Future FYE and Soon after she becomes eligible, depending on whether or not she releases any new music that adds to her legacy. If she gets back into releasing music, then I think she is an FYE, but if if her hiatus continues for much longer it might take a bit, just since she will be farther from the public eye.

Slayer is probably not ever getting into the Rock Hall.

Posted by RG on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 15:26pm


RG,

In addition to the other names that we mentioned, I forgot to add one name to the list for the 90's and that is Sinead O'Connor, What tier would you put her in: Will Eventually Get In, 50/50 or Doubt they ever get in?.

Posted by richie on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 15:50pm


Richie, in case you're still curious: No, my name is not Johnny BuBiel. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by Johnny on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 15:52pm


I know the R&R HoF doesn't induct fictitious characters, but Dr. Johnny Fever of "WKRP in Cincinnati" almost seems worthy of an exception, non-performers category.

Rest in Peace Howard Hesseman, 1940-2022.

Posted by Joe S. on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 15:57pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is January 30, 2021. In approximately 1 more day, Lobsterfest will begin and in 4 more days, I will turn 60 years old.

In my honest opinion, If a critically beloved artist has not waited at least 10 years past their eligibility date to be inducted, then they have not been snubbed under any circumstances whatsoever.

If I had decided to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation do not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

11. The B-52s- I found it quite amazing that Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson have been together for almost 46 years.

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick
8. The B-52s
9. Lionel Richie

In my honest opinion, those 9 artists would make a fantastic class of inductees.

Let's face basic facts: I definitely do not like Eminem!

In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait at least another nine hundred ninety nine trillion nine hundred ninety nine billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre. as a solo artist!



Here are the other 8:

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time. Plus, Annie Lennox has had a very successful solo career after the dissolution of The Eurythmics.

15. Cher- A true music icon for almost 60 years.

16. Willie Nelson- "............................................,.,."

17. Kool & The Gang

18. Lionel Richie (solo), or perhaps The Commodores (although I think that the former is more likely).


19. Meatloaf (due to his recent passing)

20. John Prine (due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19) almost 2 years ago.

21. Eminem- even though I strongly detest him.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 19:44pm


This has to be Jethro Tull' s year to finally be nominated. Their just released studio album The Zealot Gene is their best in years and should keep them on everybody's mind.

Posted by Michael McNeely on Sunday, 01/30/2022 @ 22:58pm


I just want to stop to say I do agree that this has to be Jethro Tull's year I predict. This is one of my favorite predictions this year. I'm 57 Now so I guess I'm one of the senior regulars. I was in fact a teenager when Ian Anderson and his band of fellows still had albums actively.
I can agree with Enig that they are the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get inducted. . Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart is a good choice to induct them. I think so But Robin Trower, Steve Winwood, Jon Anderson, John Petrucci are other possibilities. The prog community will definitely support their induction. I own a lot of Jethro Tull albums. I own at least 7 Tull albums. I predict Jethro Tull for this year.

I also strongly support the Bangles as a nominee and I think they have a good chance too. The Go-Gos improved their chance. Susanna Hoffs indcuted the Zombies. I can't believe Susanna Hoffs is perhaps 62. Then again I can't believe I'm 57. Ahh us middle age music people. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. It's a strong possibility. I predict them for sure.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 03:09am


BEST INDUCTEES OF THE PAST DECADE

2021: Foo Fighters, Kraftwerk
2020: Depeche Mode, The Doobie Brothers
2019: All but Janet Jackson
2018: All
2017: All but 2Pac
2016: All but NWA
2015: All but Bill Withers
2014: All
2013: All but Public Enemy
2012: All

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 03:10am


BEST INDUCTEES OF THE PAST DECADE

2021: Foo Fighters, Kraftwerk
2020: All but Whitney Houston
2019: All but Janet Jackson
2018: All
2017: All but 2Pac
2016: All but NWA
2015: All but Bill Withers
2014: All
2013: All but Public Enemy
2012: All

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 03:55am


2021: Foo Fighters, Kraftwerk
2020: All but Whitney Houston and Notorious BIG
2019: All but Janet Jackson
2018: All
2017: All but 2Pac
2016: All but NWA
2015: All but Bill Withers
2014: All
2013: All but Public Enemy
2012: All

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 03:57am


2021: Foo Fighters, Kraftwerk
2020: All but Notorious BIG
2019: All but Janet Jackson
2018: All
2017: All but 2Pac
2016: All but NWA
2015: All but Bill Withers
2014: All
2013: All but Public Enemy
2012: All

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 03:59am


2021: All but Jay-Z and LL Cool J
2020: All but Notorious BIG and Whitney Houston
2019: All but Janet Jackson
2018: All
2017: All but 2Pac
2016: All but NWA
2015: All but Bill Withers
2014: All
2013: All but Public Enemy
2012: All

Posted by Garrus on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 04:04am


Anyone know when exactly the nominees are gonna be announced? I feel like it would be on February 10th like last year, but I wanna hear when you guys think the announcement will be.

Posted by Raichu on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 10:28am


The Rock Hall posted this on social media this morning and they said:

Rumor has it that big news is coming. #RockHall2022

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 11:09am


Richie,
That is certainly intresting

Posted by Raichu on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 11:25am


Since the nominees are due, it wouldn't surprise me if that were the "big news". However, maybe they're doing something with GnR...

BTW, one of Paul Butterfield's band members died Follower...

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 12:36pm


The Rock Hall nominating committee got together on Friday, January 21 to help create the 2022 ballot, so the Nominating Committee has already met to help determine this year's ballot, so the nominations should be coming either this week or next week.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 13:02pm


Currently subbed and have notifs on for the Rock Hall Youtube channel. Hopefully I get the vid notification whenever its announced and report back soon.

Posted by Raichu on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 13:34pm


Looks like it's probably coming sometime this week, everyone!

Better get my finalized predictions in:

RETURNING NOMINEES
1. Dionne Warwick
2. New York Dolls
3. The Spinners
4. Pat Benatar
5. Judas Priest
6. Soundgarden
7. Eric B & Rakim
8. Rage Against the Machine

NEW NOMINEES
9. Eminem
10. Mariah Carey
11. Carly Simon
12. The B-52's
13. Smashing Pumpkins
14. Duran Duran
15. The Monkees
16. Toots & The Maytals

A few notes:

- I'm gonna go against the grain and say that Chaka Khan will not be on the ballot in any form. I think now that they figured out how they will be using the Musical Excellence category going forward, they will not want to go through the same process with Chaka again, and open up a space on the ballot, which I think will be filled by another R&B group of the same era, let's say The Spinners.

- A potential dark horse that I came very close to putting on this prediction is Meat Loaf. I normally don't subscribe to the death = more likely to be recognized theory, but the fact that he died a day before the nominating meeting, means his name was almost certainly at least mentioned in the room.

- I know there's not any evidence that things will change for The Monkees, but I'm feeling something in the air.

- Toots & The Maytals fits the out of left field wild card slot, a la Fela Kuti

- Everyone else I believe I have either talked about or should be pretty self explanatory (I mostly don't want to write a ton more lol).

Posted by RG on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 17:13pm


RG,

Out of your predictions for the 2022 nominees (The B-52's, Pat Benatar, Mariah Carey, Duran Duran, Eminem, Eric B. & Rakim, Judas Priest, The Monkees, New York Dolls, Rage Against The Machine, Carly Simon, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, The Spinners, Toots & The Maytals and Dionne Warwick). Which ones do you see being inducted?.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 17:25pm


Big Star probably will be 1 of those Musical Excellence selections down the line. They didn't sell many records and after a few years...It ended in frustration. In their defense, Big Star did influence a few popular bands. Alex Chilton is 1 of those musicians and names people keep in high regard. Chaka Khan, MC5, New York Dolls I could receive Special Awards. Chaka Khan will be inducted in some fashion this year. Most likely Musical Excellence. I wonder what they do with Chic. They could receive a Special Award. I'm liking Bryan Adams, Diana Ross, Duran Duran, Lenny Kravitz, and Smashing Pumpkins to earn their 1st Nominations. My guess the Committee will select 1 or 2 artists not many figured. Beck and Megadeth might be on my 2023 list. KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 18:03pm


Richie,

If my ballot is right, I think this is the class:

1. Eminem
2. Mariah Carey
3. Pat Benatar
4. The Monkees
5. Duran Duran
6. Rage Against the Machine

Posted by RG on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 18:57pm


With the nominations coming out either this week or next, I have decided to make my final predictions for this year's nominees and they are:

Eminem
Eric B. & Rakim
OutKast
Beck
Dionne Warwick
Chaka Khan
Rage Against The Machine
Devo
Los Lobos
Pat Benatar
Toots & The Maytals
Kate Bush
The B-52's
Judas Priest
Eurythmics

Other acts that I wouldn't be surprised to see get nominated this year:

Mary J. Blige
War
Dave Matthews Band
The Smiths
Duran Duran

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 20:05pm


Anyone else noticed that the FRL put up their predictions today? Not sure when it happened, but I must say, it's a very pedestrian list. I'm not a fan of half the predictions they make, although I'm starting to think Cher might be a worthy prediction for a nominee...

What are everyone's thoughts?

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 21:32pm


RG,

You read my mind again! That is exactly how I have it! (Minus Carey of course)

Sixth slot I have Diana Ross

Posted by Plebeian on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 23:01pm


RG and Plebeian,

Let's see who gets nominated first before we make any predictions on who gets in.

Posted by richie on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 23:36pm


If Janet hadn't been inducted, she would've been nominated and inducted in 2022 because she has been having a career resurgence due to the release of her documentary.

Anyway, here's my prediction of who will be nominated:

Eminem
Fiona Apple
Sparks (the Edgar Wright doc might help them)
OutKast
Pat Benatar
(Rufus featuring) Chaka Khan
Rage Against Machine
Judas Priest
Dionne Warwick
Cher
The Monkees
Soundgarden
Mariah Carey
The Spinners
Eurythmics
Alanis Morrisette

Posted by John R.C. on Monday, 01/31/2022 @ 23:49pm


John R.C.,

Out of your predictions for the 2022 nominees (Fiona Apple, Pat Benatar, Mariah Carey, Cher, Eminem, Eurythmics, Judas Priest, The Monkees, Alanis Morissette, OutKast, Rage Against The Machine, Rufus With Chaka Khan, Soundgarden, Sparks, The Spinners and Dionne Warwick). Which ones do you see being inducted?.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 00:06am


Kate Bush,Sade and Nightwish and Nightwish some more these are who I would nominate for induction especially Nightwish who are still performing and releasing new and progressive symphonic music they are so deserving of induction they just are not well known in the usa but they have a worldwide army of fans and these are who I call out to,to make the hall aware of Nightwish.

Posted by James Seiler on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 01:36am


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
King Crimson
Peter Frampton
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 03:47am


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
King Crimson
Peter Frampton
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 03:48am


PLEASE GET AN EDIT FEATURE

PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Peter Frampton
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 03:50am


PLEASE GET AN EDIT FEATURE. I did not know there was an anti-spam until today.

PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Peter Frampton
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 03:54am


K-Dawg,

Cher's been a worthy prediction for a nominee! I can't believe how many people here have been outright dismissive of her merits. I don't have her for this year but I wouldn't be surprised if she shows up, and she's high on my early mental prediction list for 2023

Posted by RG on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 07:32am


Nominee announcement tomorrow? My day just got more interesting.

Posted by remy10 on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 08:05am


Remy10,
are you sure its tomorrow? Where did you hear that?

Posted by Raichu on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 08:23am


Saw a tweet from the Rock Hall.

Posted by remy10 on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 08:29am


Tomorrow, nice!

As always, I love the way that Joe and Kristen cover the announcements on their podcast, so I'll recommend that you find out the nominees by listening to their episode, it's a much more fun way to experience it than just reading a list.

Posted by RG on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 09:01am


PREDICTION FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Ben E. King
Mary Wells
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
The Shangri-Las
Chubby Checker
Harry Belafonte
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick
Willie Nelson
Judy Collins
Phil Collins
Steve Winwood
Gram Parsons
The Kingston Trio
Peter, Paul & Mary
The Spencer Davis Group
Jan & Dean
The Monkees
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Blood, Sweat & Tears
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
Captain Beefheart
Warren Zevon
Harry Nilsson
Joe Cocker
Barry White
Carly Simon
Foreigner
Joy Division / New Order

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 09:36am


The 2022 nominees will be announced tomorrow, February 2.

What do you think?.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 09:42am


Now that the Hall would be announcing the nominees for 2022 annual induction class tomorrow, I would like to share my final predictions on who would be nominated for this year.

New Nominees:
Duran Duran - They defined MTV generation & when it comes to induction chances, I think it's 100% possibility that they will be shoo - ins for 2022 inductions.

Eminem - He's one the most important figures in music. He's a sure thing for induction this year & he'll even headline the ceremony.

Joy Division/New Order - These acts inspired a lot of young teenagers to form 90s alternative rock bands & been a cultural phenomenon for the ones that influence them. It might take them 2 nominations to get in but they are deserving.

King Crimson - Prog Rock like Heavy Metal is having a hard time with the RRHOF (although Yes & Moody Blues were recently got in) & King Crimson is one of them getting shut out of it. They were influential to not just fellow prog bands but also contemporary artists as well. Robert Fripp is one of the most innovative guitarists of the 20th century. As for nomination, i think if they don't get nominated & inducted as performers then I'll be AME.

Lenny Kravitz - Well I think he should be considered since his work is pretty much evolved through the years. Not to mention he worked with a lot of artists in the past including Slash, Mick Jagger & more.

George Michael - He's one of the greatest artists of the 80s generation, winning Grammys & sold a lot of records but does he have critical acclaim not sure but he'll be considered for nomination in the future.

Diana Ross - With Tina Turner & Carole King inducted as solo artists, I think Ross should be the next one after them since she had a successful career as one after The Supremes.

Returning Nominees:
Pat Benatar - Yeah let her be nominated once more so she'll be subsequently inducted since I've been seeing comments everywhere regarding her omission.

Mary J. Blige - Well I could see her being inducted with a few years from now so I might take her a few more nominations doing so.

Jane's Addiction: This band had pretty much come up in the comments about their consideration & pretty much I could see why. They have influence on such bands like RATM & Tool, also Perry Farrell founded Lollapalozza, one of the most iconic festivals out there. I think it's going to take them 3 more nominations just like Rage.

Judas Priest - I think it's a coming time when Priest actually gets the 3rd nomination then it's pretty much likely that they'll finally be one of the 6 artists being finally enshrined into the Hall. It worked for Deep Purple in 2016 as the others in the past as well so I could be a charm for Priest too.

Fela Kuti: Pretty much the most obscure act to be recently nominated last year, I could pretty much see Kuti being inducted under Early Influence or AME.

Rage Against the Machine - Nominated 3 times & still didn't get inducted, maybe because the Hall is trying to get them on the same lane as N.W.A (in which it took them 4 tries to get in), with the ceremony being held in LA then it's likely their chance to become inductees.

Thin Lizzy - They were known for their twin lead guitar attack & it later refined & popularised by Judas Priest, Iron Maiden & Def Leppard. They brandished a unique style of showmanship & songwriting in bandleader Phil Lynott & influenced bands like Metallica & Alice in Chains. They are definitely deserving of induction.

War - I've been seeing a lot of posts championed War for possible induction & it's not hard to see why. They're known for hits like The World is a Ghetto & Low Rider but also known for their elements of funk, jazz, reggae, latin & R&B.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 10:04am


I've made my picks final. On the Cher comment I made, I always have agreed she's rock and roll HOF material, but I figured, since they always do things in "Slots" that they would nom Mariah next. Diana Ross gets a lot of mention; the problem always is the same that Stevie Nicks presented (although Tina deserved her own spot independent of Ike based on their relationship); when you induct someone already in, the Rock Hall voters don't compensate and create a bigger backlog by sticking to generally 5 or 6 acts...

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Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 10:21am


PREDICTIONS FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOT

01. Ben E. King
02. Mary Wells
03. The Marvelettes
04. The Spinners
05. The Shangri-Las
06. Chubby Checker
07. Harry Belafonte
08. Diana Ross
09. Dionne Warwick
10. Willie Nelson
11. Judy Collins
12. Phil Collins
13. Steve Winwood
14. Gram Parsons
15. The Kingston Trio
16. Peter, Paul & Mary
17. The Spencer Davis Group
18. Jan & Dean
19. The Monkees
20. Jethro Tull
21. King Crimson
22. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
23. Blood, Sweat & Tears
24. Kool & The Gang
25. The Commodores
26. Captain Beefheart
27. Warren Zevon
28. Harry Nilsson
29. Joe Cocker
30. Barry White
31. Carly Simon
32. Foreigner
33. Joy Division / New Order
34. Mariah Carey
35. Eminem

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 10:41am


Ok I see that the Nominees will be announced tomorrow
I am Reminding everyone of my Predictions for 2022

PREDICTION FOR THE 2022 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
Bryan Adams
The B52s
The Bangles
Pat Benatar
Mary J. Blige
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
Chaka Khan
The Monkees
Outkast
Rage Against Machine
Diana Ross
Carly Simon
Soundgarden
Dionne Warwick
Warren Zevon

I am Not NOT picking Meat Loaf despite his recent passing. Others have passed away and it meant nothing. Also Meat Loaf had the one huge album.When Joe Cocker passed away Nothing happened. But the Monkees have been predicted and talked about for several years. Thin Lizzy and War are near misses. They are on this Sub list in case they are picked, But not my main predictions.

Thats it for Now, This is my final entry before the announcement. Have a good one. Talk to everyone tomorrow

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 10:44am


My final nominee predictions:
Fiona Apple
Beck
Pat Benatar
B-52s
Eminem
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
Kool and the Gang
Fela Kuti
Meat Loaf
The Monkees
Alanis Morissette
Rage Against the Machine
Rufus Ft Chaka Khan
Slade
Soundgarden
Sparks
Dionne Warwick
"Weird Al" Yankovic

Posted by Raichu on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 11:00am


What about Oasis? They have sold atleast 70 million records. They are still young enough to put on a good performance during the ceremony. Forget about Jethro Tull. They deserve it, of course, but Ian wants nothing to do with it. They shouldn't of even bothered with todd rungren and mark knofler because they totally dissed the award.

Posted by Rc on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 11:08am


Well, looks like the Singles category is dead. Too bad that means Donnie will never finish his series, because I'd like to see his 10 80's singles and 5 90's singles.

Also, Philip did his songs of Proof for 2021!

Clarence Avant: "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" by the S.O.S. Band
Foo Fighters: "Monkey Wrench"
the Go-Go's: "We Got The Beat"
Jay-Z: "Dirt Off Your Shoulder"
Carole King: "I Feel The Earth Move"
Kraftwerk: "Autobahn"
LL Cool J: "Mama Said Knock You Out"
Charley Patton: "High Water Everywhere"
Billy Preston: "Outa-Space"
Randy Rhoads: "Crazy Train" by Ozzy Osbourne
Todd Rundgren: "Bang The Drum All Day"
Gil Scott-Heron: "B-Movie"
Tina Turner: "Better Be Good To Me"

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 11:42am


Not much to add to all of the predictions that have been posting. I think last year I successfully predicted three which wouldn't even give me a consolation prize.

Really looking forward to seeing the ballot tomorrow. Last year brought some major surprises. More of the same?

Here's my shot at predictions. Choosing 16

Beck: Can't understand how he hasn't been nominated yet.
Pat Benatar: Shocked she wasn't nominated last year.
Big Star: Love the pick by FRL.
The Commodores: Would love the Spinners too.
Duran Duran: Seems like their year.
Eminem: Obvious FYN.
Eurythmics: I think they'll take Devo's spot.
Iron Maiden: Picking them over Judas Priest. A toss-up.
Jane's Addiction: There are so many 90s artists that need to be here.
Chaka Khan: I think she'll get one more shot on the regular ballot.
New York Dolls: I would hate to see them as an EI.
Dolly Parton: This one would get lots of attention.
Diana Ross: A logical next step after last year.
Carly Simon: Seems like an obvious choice to me.
The Smiths: Another slam dunk obvious choice for me.
Soundgarden: One of the critical bands of the 90s.

I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow.

Posted by remy10 on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 12:05pm


Since it's tomorrow, let me give my prediction of 16, and another 16 that I feel really deserve a shot..
For Tomorrow:
Alanis Morrisette
Cher
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick
Duran Duran
Eminem
Iron Maiden
Jane's Addiction
Joy Division/New Order
Judas Priest
Meat Loaf
OutKast
Pat Benatar
Rage Against The Machine
Rufus With Chaka Khan
Soundgarden

and here's 16 more that are deserving...
Salt-N-Pepa
Mariah Carey
George Michael
The Smiths
The Eurythmics
Jethro Tull
Foreigner
The B-52's
Motley Crue
Warren Zevon
Kool & The Gang
The Spinners
The Pointer Sisters
Phil Collins
Boston
Eric B. & Rakim

and I could name 100 more....

Posted by PAUL BATTAGLIA on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 12:45pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Herman's Hermits
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang
The Dave Matthews Band
Peter Frampton

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 13:41pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Herman's Hermits
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang
The Dave Matthews Band
Peter Frampton

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 13:43pm


The Rock Hall of Fame is a joke and a disgrace. Jethro Tull, Free, Bad Company, Thin Lizzy, Peter Frampton, Humble Pie, Kansas, Boston, Styx, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Pat Benatar, Ted Nugent Cmon folks. They rather induct irrelevant rap artists instead who have nothing to do or absolutely zero influence on any rock artist.

Posted by Lou Renzi on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 14:26pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Herman's Hermits
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang
The Dave Matthews Band
Peter Frampton

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts
Big Brother and the Holding Company

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 14:32pm


Just a few more hours until we find out who will join Eminem as Nominees!

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 18:13pm


I'd like for any of the Fan Vote 6 to be nominated again.

Judas Priest, Dave Matthews Band, Pat Benatar, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden, and Fela Kuti. All have reached the top 5 at some point without being inducted.

Also, the Diamond Album streak will continue since Eminem has two.

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 18:18pm


Out of all of the acts that have been previously nominated, but haven't gotten in, I'll say that Pat Benatar, Eurythmics, Rage Against The Machine, Soundgarden and Dionne Warwick stand the best chance of getting in if nominated this year, All of them are accessible to the voters and all of them have huge name recognition and they're all in genres that Rock Hall voters tend to go for currently (Pat Benatar for Classic Rock, Eurythmics for 80's New Wave/Alternative, Rage Against The Machine and Soundgarden for 90's Grunge/Alternative Rock and Dionne Warwick for Pop acts), We'll find out tomorrow if any of them get nominated alongside the obvious FYE lock/shoo-in in Eminem and other acts that haven't been nominated before, I'm so excited and I can't wait to see who gets nominated tomorrow.

Posted by richie on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 18:23pm


PAT BENATAR
LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM
REO Speedwagon
Rita Coolidge
Warren Zevon
Foreigner
Carly Simon
Boston
Sonny & Cher
Bad Company
Bette Midler
Peter Frampton
Patsy Kline
Judas Priest
The Pointer Sisters
Foghat
Diana Ross solo
Eddy Money
Jethro Tull
Olivia Newton-John
Meatloaf
Helen Reddy
Thin LLzzy
Dionne Warwi
EmmyLou Harris
Three Dog Night
Cyndi Lauper
J Geils Band
The Bangles
Deep Purple
The B52s
Grand Funk Railroad
The Eurythmics
Steppenwolf
Kate Bush
The Guess Who
She'ryl Crow
Black Sabbath
Rick Springfield
Duran Duran
Chic
Dolly Parton

Posted by What’s taking so long ? on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 18:38pm


Eight acts who have never been nominated that I would love to see announced tomorrow.

1. Joy Division/New Order
2. Gram Parsons
3. The Commodores
4. Tommy James & Shondells
5. Beck
6. The Carpenters
7. The Shangri-Las (wishful thinking)
8. OutKast

Posted by remy10 on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 18:40pm


Remy10,

Didn't Gram get nominated 3 times in the past? Also glad I'm not the only one that forgot about him.

Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 20:32pm


Hoping to see any of these names amongst the nominees tomorrow:

Cher
Mariah Carey
Dolly Parton
Chaka Khan
Pat Benatar
Roberta Flack
Motley Crue
Spice Girls
The Monkees
New York Dolls
The Commodores
Rage Against the Machine
The B52's
Cyndi Lauper
The Pointer Sisters

Posted by Adam on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 21:00pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Herman's Hermits
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang
The Dave Matthews Band
Peter Frampton

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts
Big Brother and the Holding Company

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin
Ella Fitzgerald

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:03pm


PERFORMERS
Motley Crue
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Joe Cocker
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
Boston
King Crimson
Anthrax
They Might Be Giants
Herman's Hermits
The B-52's
Alice in Chains
Slayer
Pantera
Motorhead
Asia
Stone Temple Pilots
Iron Maiden
Dio
Devo

AWARD FOR MUSICAL EXCELLENCE
Peter Green
Bob Welch
Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats
Dick Dale and His Del Tones
Chubby Checker
Link Wray and His Wray Men
The Big Bopper
The Sugarhill Gang
The Dave Matthews Band
Peter Frampton

SPECIAL COMMITTEE
Wings
The Wailers
Crazy Horse
The Silver Bullet Band
The Mothers of Invention
The Revolution
The Patti Smith Group
The Jeff Beck Group
The Belmonts
Big Brother and the Holding Company
Steve Miller Band

EARLY INFLUENCE
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tommy Johnson
Louis Prima
Cab Calloway
Scott Joplin
Ella Fitzgerald

NONPERFORMER
Ed Sullivan

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:14pm


Here's a concept: let's stop inducting male rappers (especially gangsta rap artists who should never be inducted) for at least another five to ten more years. Instead let's nominate several deserving female R&B artists who had performed and possibly written their own songs and who are long overdue for induction, such artists as: The Marvelettes, The Crystals, the Pointer Sisters, etc. and maybe some female rappers like Queen Latifah, TLC, Salt-n-Pepa, etc.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:18pm


Ben, Will N., K Dawg, KING, RG, Tom H., Jordan Einstein, Philip, Follower and others,

Today is February 1, 2022. Lobsterfest began yesterday, tomorrow is Groundhog Day and in less than approximately 34 more hours, I will turn 60 years old.

In my honest opinion, If a critically beloved artist has not waited at least 10 years past their eligibility date to be inducted, then they really have not been snubbed under any circumstances whatsoever.

If I had decided to speculate on a preliminary list of the 2022 nominees. I would think that a few of the same old stalwarts will return. Also, since no major "prog" bands have been nominated during the past 3 years, I would expect to see more of a "prog" presence especially after the recent unfortunate and untimely passing of the magnificent Neil Peart in 2020. I find it rather unfortunate that many members of the newer generation do not understand the importance of the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) and the lamentable fact that they probably never will. Additionally, John Prine may receive an induction, due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19. Therefore, here is my (recently modified) preliminary list of the 2022 nominees:

These are the artists who I think should be inducted as performers in 2022:

01. The Bangles- Susanna Hoffs had inducted The Zombies in 2019, plus it adds 4 or perhaps 5 more women, which the Rock Hall has been severely criticized for excluding. This year, (The Go-Gos had been inducted). Overall, It adds to more diversity, plus Michael Steele had been a member of The Runaways. If nominated, will get in. With the Go-Gos now in, the Rock Hall may decide to nominate The Bangles. The prog community will support their induction!

02. Duran Duran- I have written rather extensively about this for almost 9 consecutive years. See my numerous posts under Duran Duran. If nominated will get in and should probably be appropriately inducted by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson of Rush, not unlike Yes. Plus, Duran Duran has a new album out titled "Future Past" and their single, 'Hungry Like The Wolf' has shown up on the latest list of Rolling Stone's Greatest Songs Of All Time' at #398. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

03. Jethro Tull- the second member of the "unholy trinity" of prog, after Genesis. If nominated; they may get in. Anne & Nancy Wilson of Heart should induct them. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog. (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community will definitely support their induction.

04. Procol Harum- because one nomination is certainly not enough. Kudos to Steven Van Zandt, plus their pathway has been mostly cleared. See also, the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). The prog community may support their induction.

05. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo- Do we really want to repeat 2020's fiasco? No, then induct them. They absolutely should get in; they will get in. The hard rock/heavy metal community will support their induction.

06. Sade- Two of their albums are on the RS Top 500 Albums list, plus aren't we tired of constantly nominating Rufus with Chaka Khan to no avail? If nominated; they will get in. Also, Sade is a "progressive soul" band. See Stevie wonder and Peter Gabriel. The prog community may support their induction.

07. Carly Simon- Do you want more women? Great singer/songwriters? Then induct her. She absolutely should be in. 'You're So Vain' is at #495 on Rolling Stone's latest list of greatest songs of all time. With Carole King's recent induction as a performer, it really makes sense for Carly Simon to be next. The prog community will definitely support her induction.

08. Kansas- The recent passing of Robby Steinhardt (former violinist and vocalist) was huge news, plus there are not many "American" prog artists in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, other than perhaps: Frank Zappa, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Talking Heads and Journey. They have strong advocates in both Brian May, long time inductee with Queen and Garth Brooks- soon to be nominated for induction himself. See also the "holy trinity" of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues). Also, Robby Steinhardt's posthumous solo release "Not In Kansas Anymore: A Prog Opera" (2021) has received positive reviews from Pete Pardo of "Sea of Tranquility." The prog community will probably support their induction.

09. The Monkees- the unfortunate passings of Davy Jones, Peter Tork and the recent passing of Michael Nesmith could be the spark that gets them a rock hall nomination. Michael Nesmith had been instrumental in creating Pop Clips, the predecessor to MTV and MTV and Micky Dolenz (the sole surviving member) still has a great singing voice. I have also been watching recent documentaries about them on YouTube.

Since Michael Nesmith had unfortunately passed away on Friday December 10, 2021. I would like to extend my most sincere condolences to the family and friends of Michael Nesmith. Michael Nesmith, in addition to the rest of The Monkees had a lasting impact on the pop culture, which will not ever be forgotten. With Micky Dolenz, being the only surviving member of The Monkees, I anticipate that a mostly posthumous nomination and a Rock
Hall induction will finally be forthcoming. Will they get in?

10. Dionne Warwick- A renomination for such a great singer should definitely be in order. Since she did not get inducted in 2021, I think that a renomination will be forthcoming. Will she get in this time?

11. The B-52s- I found it quite amazing that Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson have been together for almost 46 years.

If hard pressed to choose, these are the artists (from my list) who I believe to have the best chance of being inducted in 2022:

1. The Bangles
2. Duran Duran
3. Carly Simon
4. Pat Benatar/Neil Giraldo
5. Sade
6. The Monkees
7. Dionne Warwick
8. The B-52s
9. Lionel Richie

In my honest opinion, those 9 artists would make a fantastic class of inductees.

Let's face basic facts: I definitely do not like Eminem!

In my honest opinion, Eminem can definitely wait at least another nine hundred ninety nine trillion nine hundred ninety nine billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine years, much like Dr. Dre. as a solo artist!



Here are the other 10:

12. Sheryl Crowe- a contemporary of Stevie Nicks.

13. Thin Lizzy- fathers of Irish hard rock.

14. Eurythmics- Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart were quite innovative for their time. Plus, Annie Lennox has had a very successful solo career after the dissolution of The Eurythmics.

15. Cher- A true music icon for almost 60 years.

16. Willie Nelson- "............................................,.,."

17. Kool & The Gang

18. Lionel Richie (solo), or perhaps The Commodores (although I think that the former is more likely).


19. Meatloaf (due to his recent passing)

20. John Prine (due to his passing from complications due to COVID-19) almost 2 years ago.

21. Eminem- even though I strongly detest him.

Well, what do you think?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:30pm


Eminem
Duran Duran
the B-52's
Eurythmics
Bad Company
Kate Bush
Pat Benatar
George Michael
Joy Division/New Order
the Monkees
Dionne Warwick
the Spinners
Rage Against the Machine
Judas Priest
Sheryl Crow

Posted by Eric Tompkins on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:34pm


Is that the actual list?

Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 22:42pm


The actual list is not coming until tomorrow.

Posted by Garrus on Tuesday, 02/1/2022 @ 23:22pm


The night before the announcement. This year seemed to be a really quick turnaround from the meeting to the announcement. Really quick. Given the amount of preparation usually needed by the Hall in the past, this means one or more of a few things:

1. They're trying to nudge the calendar bit by bit to the old timetable. Announce sooner, send ballots out sooner, collect sooner... and so forth. Try to get back on the old time table. Maybe
2. Small ballot. Fewer nominees, fewer write-ups needed
3. Fewer first-time nominees, and a high percentage of repeat nominees, and thus a number of recycled wrte-ups (with some slight touch-ups) being used again.
4. Their teams got to work early and put in long hours and maybe even wrote up some of the more likely nominees ahead of time... had them ready to go.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 00:01am


Ja'al forbid fewer nominees.

Posted by Garrus on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 00:15am


Ok, I feel compelled to point out a tendency that the rocker purists undoubtedly will do tomorrow when the nominees are announced and we get a billion "Eminem is not rock" posts. On Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and any place that permits comments, be it a forum, message board, or review on an article. You are going to see jaded fans type out lists of band names, typically 70s or 80s (maybe even some 60s) bands/artists, most found on your local classic rock station's playlist with as few as one song on repeat for the 200 track catalog. Some mentioned, like Foreigner, Boston, Scorpions, Kansas, Jethro Tull, Bad Company, etc., do have at least a small argument that they should go in. But get ready for those screamers who want Mountain, UFO, Rick Derringer, Billy Squier, Winger, Slaughter, Britny Fox, or just about any band you can or can't name, like they are more worthy than Madonna, Tupac or Prince, just because they have a song that the rockers can headbang to. We had a gentleman further up in the board that was exactly that way tonight. Sorry for the long paragraph, but I want them to feel special that we see their tactic.

Sleep well, all. The nominees are almost upon us...

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 00:36am


He said "the rock hall of fame is a disgrace". There is no rock hall of fame. There is a rock AND ROLL hall of fame, which all the artists in (well, most of them) do indeed belong...

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 00:39am


With The Go-Go's (Belinda Carlisle, Charlotte Caffey, Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine and Gina Schock) now in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, I would love to see The Bangles (Susanna Hoffs, Vicki Peterson, Debbi Peterson and Michael Steel) be at least nominated and hopefully win induction in 2022!

Posted by Michael Holloway on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 01:05am


Michael Steele I meant.

Posted by Michael Holloway on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 01:06am


K-Dawg,
Here is a twist. I admit I'm an Old Rock fan. I like Mountain, Rick Derringer and
Billy Squier. BUT no way any of these 3 have a chance. I'd rather have the Spinners and Harold Melvyn and the Bluenotes in the Hall. I predict them at some point. Also like John Prine and SOME Carly Simon. I am predicting Carly Simon. She is perfect for the Hall as a singer/songwriter. .Her Ex Husband James T was inducted a long time ago. I am personally into James T quite a bit. It makes sense to have Carly in. She makes sense after Carole King, Also .Duran Duran, Kate Bush, Kool & The Gang, Patti La Belle are picks of mine in the Next few years. Midnight Oil was mentioned by you. I love Beds are Burning but also Put Down That Weapon. Heyy look at that I did a Small review of the 1970s and 80s we talked about a lot in our chat of Retro decades. These picks are better than the ones of a Rock purist. Which I am Not. I may Not know any Eminem but at least I predict him. And I do predict all kinds this year like Duran Duran, The Monkees, Diana Ross and Carly Simon. I wanted to pick genres above Not talked about much except by Us 2. I wanted to say that, We will see what happens.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 02:57am


No disrespect meant towards any of the acts I mentioned, Ben. I like much of their work as well. However, there are so many sycophants who want to see every single rocker they have ever named a song from in this Hall, without grasping the nature and intention of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (to be fair, the Hall doesn't get it sometimes either). Rock and Roll Hootchie Koo came out in the early 70s, but it was one of the most amazing songs at high school dances in the mid-90s...if that makes sense lol

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 03:14am


Haven't been on this page in quite some time, and it's only a few hours away. No blog. Just a Twitter thread, and a post here.

Here are my final predictions for the 2022 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees. I'm going with 17 nominees.

Cher: In recent years, major iconic female solo stars have been inducted. Including Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, and Tina Turner. Cher is in that same spectrum of iconic status. A nomination seems inevitable. And I think this will be the year.

Commodores: As one of the leading R&B groups of the late 70's/early 80's, they are long overdue for induction. It's also come out that they were discussed at last year's Nominating Committee meeting. It's likely they'll come up again, and this time make the ballot.

Daft Punk: This is a bit of a left field pick, as the Hall has barely scratched the surface of electronic music. But with Kraftwerk now inducted via the Early Influence category, the Hall can now get to the genre. Why not start with the biggest group of that genre?

Dionne Warwick: She's such a long overdue candidate, when she made the ballot last year, most fans thought she had long been inducted. As beloved as she is, I don't see her being a "one and done" nomination. She'll return this year to the ballot for a 2nd shot at induction.

Duran Duran: MTV era-New Wave music has done well in the John Sykes era of the HOF. Few bands of that period were bigger than Duran Duran. And with their longevity and recent success, it seems like their time for a shot at induction has finally arrived.

Eminem: Eminem was one of the defining musical figures of the 2000's. He was the most commercially successful artist of that decade. He's the typical shoe-in, headlining, newly eligible inductee. I'll cut my right arm off if I'm wrong and he isn't nominated.

Fela Kuti: Fela Kuti shocked everyone last year at not only appearing on the ballot, but nearly winning the Fan Vote. I predicted him as a left field pick the year before he actually made the ballot (still bitter that the nomination came a year later, I could've had the most left field nomination ever, ughhhh). I think he'll return, bringing an international presence to the ballot.

Iron Maiden: Despite it's lack of success, few genres are more important to music than heavy metal, and the Nominating Committee continues to attempt getting it's biggest acts inducted. Iron Maiden is more widely known than other heavyweights, so another chance seems likely.

Jane's Addiction: One of the most important bands on the alternative revolution of the 90's, Jane's Addiction is an essential alt-rock inductee. Tom Morello, who serves on the Nominating Committee, has recently praised them on Twitter. I don't think that's a coincidence.

Jethro Tull: While 60s and 70s classic rock has become much less of a focus in recent years, it still has a presence on the ballot and Jethro Tull is certainly one of the biggest bands from that era left to induct. A nomination is long overdue but seems likely to me this year.

Mariah Carey: Just as Eminem was the most commercially successful artist of the 2000s, Mariah was the most successful of the 90s. A massively successful and influential artist who is still active, Mariah seems destined for induction, especially with Whitney and Janet inducted.

OutKast: In the past, the Hall has only nominated one rap act per year to not split votes. However, like Jay-Z last year, Eminem is so huge that he won't take votes from another rap act. Especially if you put another huge act on the ballot. OutKast more than fits that bill.

Pat Benatar: The Hall knows it needs more female rock acts in the Hall. With the Go Go's inducted last year, and having a prior nomination, it makes perfect sense to bring Pat back to the ballot for another shot at induction.

Rufus and Chaka Khan: It's a yearly tradition at this point to have some iteration of Chaka Khan on the ballot. Either as a solo act or with Rufus. A nomination is a forgone conclusion at this point. Few artists have been snubbed by the voters more than Chaka Khan.

Sade: Few R&B acts of the 80's are more respected than Sade. Sade is a group whose legacy has only grown over time, and beings they've previously been considered by the Nominating Committee before, this seems like the year they get their first nomination.

Sheryl Crow: There's hasn't been a female rock act from the 90's on the ballot before, and this seems like the year to break that trend. Many are predicting Alanis Morrissette, however, Sheryl is more respected by those in the music industry and has longevity on her side.

Soundgarden: Soundgarden remains the biggest rock band of the 90's not yet inducted and are one of the pillars of the heralded "Grunge" era of the early 90's. This seems like the year for them to return to the ballot.

And a couple of bonus nominations in case the Hall throws a curveball and has a bigger ballot....

If 18 nominees

The Monkees: Way past overdue. There is no band of the 60s not yet inducted that were bigger than the Monkees. With Rolling Stone giving more positive attention to them with the death of Michael Nesmith, could that longstanding barrier finally be broken?

If 19 nominees

Mary J. Blige: Highly respected by younger and older musicians, few musicians have endured more than Mary J. Blige. A surprise pick for the ballot last year, her nomination was a breakthrough for non-rock 90's music. I could easily see her back again.

If 20 nominees

Phil Collins: Phil is probably the most successful artist of the 80s not yet inducted. Massive sales, beloved by younger generations of music fans and musicians, and highly influential, Phil is long overdue for a solo induction. This could be his year.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 03:49am


So I had a weird dream last night involving the nominees being announced. I don't remember who got nominated except for 2 artists and those artists were The Turtles and Korn. Very strange

Posted by Raichu on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 05:02am


Plebeian,

You are right. Forgot he had been nominated. Several times actually although it has been awhile.

Really curious to see how many make the ballot this year. Getting to work early today so I have a little free time at 7 am Central v

Posted by remy10 on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 05:39am


"The B-52"s" 100% Deserving influenced REM who"s already in ??? This Band is WAAAY OVER DUE !!!!

Posted by Edward Kern on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 05:53am


Beck
Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Devo
Eminem
Judas Priest
Fela Kuti
MC5
New York Dolls
Dolly Parton
Rage Against the Machine
A Tribe Called Quest
Dionne Warwick

Posted by John R.C. on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 07:05am


Wow. Ok I tried sooo Hard to get a Podcast for announcent Live
Too late its printed all over
Nominees for 2022
Beck
Pat Benatar
Kate Bush
Devo
Duran Duran
Eminem
Eurythmics
Judas Priest
Fela Kuti
MC5
New York Dolls
Dolly Parton
Rage Against the Machine
Lionel Richie
Carly Simon
A Tribe Called Quest
Dionne Warwick
There they are the actual nominees! I'll see you alll on the Nominee forum.
Lets get down to it

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 07:24am


I think out of all the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominees, I think Eminem will get inducted on the first try. I thought Dolly Parton was inducted already, but I was surprised she wasn't nominated until now, but I think she'll get inducted. I also thought Carly Simon was inducted already and I was also surprised to find out she wasn't nominated until now either. I think the group Duran Duran will get inducted, too. Those are the people I think will get inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Devo were one-hit wonders. Their only hit was the song "Whip It." I remembered that from a VH-1 show that featured 100 songs by one-hit wonders. I doubt that they will get inducted.

It surprised me that the group Judas Priest was nominated three times. I doubt that they will get inducted because they had one song that had people kill themselves. I remembered that from a VH-1 show that was 100 Most Shocking Moments Of Rock And Roll/Music.

Those are my guesses for who will/won't get inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Brian Schonour on Wednesday, 02/2/2022 @ 13:20pm


Why in the he'll did Dolly get nominated? Really, I will vote for Dolly when Aerosmith is nominated to the Country Music Hall of Fame!!! Who are the TN idiots who loaded the ballot nominations? Its Rock N Roll..
Not MOR Pop!!!!

Posted by eve on Thursday, 02/3/2022 @ 15:23pm


This year's nominees (RRHOF 2022) all make sense.

Hoping Pat Benatar, whose songs and touring career have held up over 40 years (like Stevie Nicks, Heart, Blondie and Linda Ronstadt) will finally get in.

Would be great to see Carly Simon finally get in like her singer songwriter peers Joan Baez, Carole King, Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell, and ex-husband James Taylor.

Judas Priest has been nominated over and over. Given their unique gay metal status, it's past time they were inducted.

Dolly's pop cultural relevance has resurged the past two years so it'll be a surprise if she's not inducted.
Same for Eminem.

Duran Duran and the Eurythmics stand a good chance given the increase in popularity of 1980s music these days. Like Benatar and the talented Lionel Ritchie, they dominated for a decade.

Not sure about a personal favorite of mine, Beck, but he is brilliant and a critics' favorite.

And beautiful pop icon, Dionne Warwick might get in as she's been nominated before and deserves it.

Posted by It’s about time on Friday, 02/4/2022 @ 17:08pm


I wish we didn't have to wait until May. We've already waited long enough.

Posted by Garrus on Sunday, 02/13/2022 @ 23:39pm


My 2023 Predictions:

A Tribe Called Quest
Buzzcocks
Chaka Khan
Devo
Diana Ross
Fela Kuti
Harry Nilsson
INXS
Iron Maiden
Joy Division-New Order
Kate Bush
Mariah Carey
Missy Elliott
Monkees
Motley Crue
New York Dolls
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Weezer

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 11/5/2022 @ 12:20pm


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