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About the 2017 Nominees, Amy wrote:
  I'm still waiting on the Marvelettes to be nominated and win. This is a major fumble. Looking at the list of who hasn't made I was a bit taken aback. So many great bands and entertainers. Is it political? Do you have to know someone to get nominated. Marvelettes please
Saturday, 02.25.17 @ 06:03am
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About the 2017 Inductees, Ben wrote:
  Enig,

The Talking Heads are a rare case with their Prog tendencies. They are a rare Case because they were a key act at CBGBs. They were not very punk even though they played at that key Punk club. I embraced their stuff around 1979, 1980. Fear of Music introduced me to their stuff. My favorite are Fear of Music and Speaking in Tongues.

Black Flag and the Dead Kennedys are the type of bands that would drive proggers away. They are straight Punk.
Friday, 02.24.17 @ 16:08pm
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About Rock Hall Projected, Paul in KY wrote:
  Nicky, thought everything else but the 'inducting person' could be taken completely seriously. It is a fine writeup, IMO.

Please try another one. You did fine.
Friday, 02.24.17 @ 08:08am
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About Janet Jackson, Mike wrote:
  There have only been six female Grammy nominees in the Producer of the Year category. Who was the first?

Janet Jackson - for Rhythm Nation 1814

https://www.grammy.com/news/the-producer-of-the-year-category-turns-40
Friday, 02.24.17 @ 06:07am
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About Bryan Adams, Nathan Miller wrote:
  Overall, really good artist and probably should be inducted, and I predict that he actually might be inducted in the future. I honestly hope so.
Friday, 02.24.17 @ 02:50am
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About Chicago, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Roy,

Congratulations to Chicago co-founders- Robert Lamm and James Pankow and to former member- Peter Cetera on their respective inductions into the Songwriter's Hall Of Fame. They definitely deserve it. Does this mean that all three of these gentlemen will finally perform together?
Friday, 02.24.17 @ 01:29am
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About The Moody Blues, Shrek wrote:
  The HOF has been making a pretty visible effort to correct a number of long time snubs; and The Moody Blues seem like the most obvious "next" target for that effort.

I agree that this seems like it should be their year; and if given a nomination, the larger voter base seems like it would obviously vote them in just as they did for Chicago and Journey.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 12:58pm
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About Rock Hall Projected, Nicky Joe wrote:
  Just trying to help polish off a project that has been all over the place, it's not serious, it's just all made up.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 11:44am
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About The Moody Blues, Enigmaticus wrote:
  I still think that The Moody Blues will be nominated for induction into the Rock Hall later this year. I also think that Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson will receive the honor of inducting them into the Rock Hall next year. But, what do you, think?
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 09:40am
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About Chicago, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Roy,

Congratulations to Chicago co-founders- Robert Lamm and James Pankow and to former member- Peter Cetera on their induction into the Songwriter's Hall Of Fame. They definitely deserve it.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 09:38am
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About Rush, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Okay, let's change the subject. Which, major progressive rock band should the members of Rush have the honor of inducting into the Rock Hall next year, if they are so nominated: The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, or King Crimson?
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 09:29am
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About The Moody Blues, Enigmaticus wrote:
  I still think that The Moody Blues will be nominated for induction into the Rock Hall later this year. I also think that Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson will receive the honor of inducting them into the Rock Hall next year.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 09:18am
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About the 2017 Inductees, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Philip,

Yes, Talking Heads are definitely the type of band that most of the prog rock aficionados could definitely get behind. They were one of the last major prog bands that I had discovered. The members of Rush had listened to a great deal of their music. Both Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew of King Crimson had been involved with Talking Heads. Many "prog aficionados" consider Talking Heads to even be a "prog" band. Prog Archives identifies them as belonging to the "Prog Related/Progressive Rock" category. My favorite Talking Heads albums are: "Remain In Light," "Speaking In Tongues," "Fear Of Music" and of course, "Stop Making Sense."

Black Flag, on the other hand, is the type of band that would probably drive most "proggers" away.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 09:10am
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About Rock Hall Projected, Paul in KY wrote:
  Nicky, nice writeup, but how were we able to score Ann Wilson to induct them?

Has there been an actual induction ceremony for our Rock Hall Projected that I'm unaware of?
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 07:48am
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About Chicago, Roy wrote:
  First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America on Tuesday, November 4, 2008. Then, on Wednesday, June 9, 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then, on Monday, June 24, 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, on Monday, June 15, 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, Chicago is inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Friday, April 8, 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency. Then on Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Major League Baseball's Chicago Cubs win the World Series during the Barack Obama presidency. It is the Chicago Cubs' third championship in franchise history, and their first championship since 1908. Then in 2017, Peter Cetera, Robert Lamm, and James Pankow of the band Chicago are inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame.
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 05:18am
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About The Immortals, Roy wrote:
  THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. 1987: Paul McCartney (The Beatles)
02. 1987: John Lennon (The Beatles)
03. 1993: Mick Jagger (The Rolling Stones)
04. 1993: Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones)
05. 1994: Barry Gibb (The Bee Gees)
06. 1994: Maurice Gibb (The Bee Gees)
07. 1994: Robin Gibb (The Bee Gees)
08. 2000: Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys)
09. 2017: Peter Cetera (Chicago)
10. 2017: Robert Lamm (Chicago)
11. 2017: James Pankow (Chicago)
Thursday, 02.23.17 @ 04:20am
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About the 2017 Inductees, Philip wrote:
  Enig,

Using VU as an example is a bit inexact. For starters, Lou Reed has a bit of a cache with the punk rock crowd. Second, I don't think art rock was necessarily recognized as a movement back in the late 60's. The movie I refer to epitomized the difference by pitting the hardcore Black Flag against Talking Heads.

Although I disagree with your complexity argument, you do remind me of another key aspect. In the movie, the virtue of punk in other artists like the Raincoats was described as a band whose passion exceeded their talent, and that's what made them so listenable. While I'm not even a dilettante when it comes to prog, it does strike me that perhaps a liability of said complexity was the possibility of sounding dispassionate. I don't think that's necessarily true of Pink Floyd or even Rush, but that has been true of some listening experiences of mine regarding acts like Yes, Jethro Tull, and Emerson, Lake, And Palmer.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 22:10pm
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About Chicago, Zuzu wrote:
  The Songwriters Hall of Fame made a few errors

Feeling Stronger Every Day was written by both Peter and Jimmy and not just Jimmy

Make Me Smile and Color My World are part of Ballet for Girl From Buchannon Suite yet they are listed as three separate songs
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 20:44pm
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About Robert Lamm, Roy wrote:
  Robert Lamm is a 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee

Robert Lamm is a 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductee
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 20:02pm
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About Peter Cetera, Roy wrote:
  Peter Cetera is a 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductee
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 19:57pm
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About Chicago, Roy wrote:
  The 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductees: Chicago

Peter Cetera is a 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductee
Robert Lamm is a 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductee
James Pankow is a 2017 Songwriters Hall Of Fame Inductee
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 19:55pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Roy wrote:
  

Songwriters Hall Of Fame Announces 2017 Inductees

http://songhall.org/news/entry/songwriters_hall_of_fame_announces_2017_inductees

01. Peter Cetera / Robert Lamm / James Pankow (Chicago)
02. Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds
03. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis
04. Shawn “Jay Z” Carter
05. Max Martin
06. Berry Gordy
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 19:31pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Ben wrote:
  Enig,

Yes there is still a wide gulf between Punk Rockers and prog aficionados. I am not true Prog aficionado but I am much closer to that. A lesser known Prog act I like is Nektar. So I know my share of the Prog genre. Even in 200 years Nektar will not be in the Hall but I just figure you know them.

Soo anyway I would say Now that the Hall will catch up on big Prog acts like the Moody Blues and ELP. I do think so.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 13:10pm
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About Rock Hall Projected, Nicky Joe wrote:
  I'm going to do a write up for Alice in Chains.

Alice in Chains
Seattle, Washington
1987-2002, 2005-present
Inducted members: Jerry Cantrell, Layne Staley, Mike Starr, Sean Kinney, Mike Inez and WilliamDuVall

Inducted by Ann Wilson in 2016

Songs performed:
Stone
Man in the Box
Would

Out of all the grunge bands popping up in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Alice in Chains was without a doubt the darkest of all of them, their sound was much closer to heavy metal than punk and alternative rock and most of that is owed to the heaviness of the guitars. At the front of their band is their amazing lead guitarist and vocalist Jerry Cantrell who combines aggressive Black Sabbath riffing with amazing solos reminiscent of guitarists like Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, Kirk Hammett, Jimmy Page and Ron Asheton as proven by tunes like Man in the Box and Dam That River. Then we have some chomping basslines in tunes like Would and Rain When I Die by the late Mike Starr who was replaced by ex-Ozzy Osbourne bassist Mike Inez. Then you have the thunderous drumming of Sean Kinney who pounds these drums in a way that would impress John Bonham and Keith Moon. However, there is one aspect of the group not to be overlooked, the vocals of the late Layne Staley who combines tortured screeches, depressing vocals and multiple harmonies alongside writing lyrics concerning mixed views on religion, drug abuse and death. Unfortunately by the late '90s, Layne vanished to his condo and was almost never seen by anyone and eventually (and unfortunately) met his fate and died at the young age of 34 with many hard rock and heavy metal legends like Phil Anselmo, James Hetfield, Kirk Hammett, Maynard James Keenan, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Zakk Wylde paying tributes and acknowledging his amazing talent. Thankfully, William DuVall has been doing a brilliant job at filling in a void that even the biggest legends would struggle to full-fill and satisfy and more than ever there's been a focus on vocal harmonies and doomy, punky riffing that despite mixed reviews from the know-it-all critics have been well received by their purest fans. It's safe to say you'd be hard-pressed to find a group that will ever come close to having the unique and phenomenal talent of Alice in Chains.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 12:40pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Ben,

Thank you for agreeing with me. I think that there is still a wide gulf between the punk rockers and the "prog" aficionados.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 09:12am
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About the 2017 Inductees, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Philip,

There were always certain "art rock" bands such as The Velvet Underground, who were considered acceptable. I think that the punks really had their issues with "progressive rock" instead, due to it's inherit complexity.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 09:04am
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About Kanye West, Cleveland Rocks wrote:
  Lots of Kanye hate here. As he said in 'power' "At the end of the day goddamn it I'm killin' this s**
I know damn well ya'll feelin' this s**" Love him or hate him he is the biggest rockstar in the world and has been probably since 'Dark Twisted Fantasy' which is also the best album of the 2000's. The guy keeps putting out hit after hit after hit for more than a decade. Hope he can get his mind right and maybe lose the wife so he can keep making great music.

PS
For anyone saying the guy isn't rock, who made you the judge? Rock is music and it can evolve like it or not the spirit of Kanye's music is Rock and Roll!
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 02:22am
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About The White Stripes, Cleveland Rocks wrote:
  Not even a huge fan but yeah obviously first ballot hall of famers I don't think there is any way they don't get in. So influential, so unique, and so popular I would bet my life that they get in.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 02:07am
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About Coldplay, Cleveland Rocks wrote:
  Never a sure thing with the hall but Coldplay is pretty close to a lock. The band has intense staying power they have been one of the most popular bands in the world for over a decade. Yes they took stuff from U2 and other British rockers but that's how music works. Groups like one republic, the fray, and kings of leon were enormously influenced by them. The band has remained wildly successful from young newcomers with indie britrock songs, to superstars in the 2000's, now they are "pop" just because of how popular they are not because of losing any musical taste or talent.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 02:02am
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About Hozier, Cleveland Rocks wrote:
  Definitely too early to tell but this first album was amazing. 'Take me to Church' was the hit but the whole album really kills it. I think the album is good enough to be an artists marque album but he would need to show more over this next decade.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 01:45am
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About The Killers, Cleveland Rocks wrote:
  Killers don't get as much respect as I think they deserve. In an era where guitar bands were becoming somewhat niche they broke through and released crazy popular songs. They probably would need one more good album to get in but I think they deserve it now. Time should help them, Hot Fuss has held up incredibly well.
Wednesday, 02.22.17 @ 01:39am
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About Stone Temple Pilots, Jimmy wrote:
  RIP Scott! We lost a true rock and roll legend but the music will live on forever. Long live STP! And, yes, they will definitely get inducted into the hall of fame. It may not be this go around (2017) but it will happen.
Tuesday, 02.21.17 @ 20:44pm
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About King Crimson, Roy wrote:
  If the Rock Hall really is capping the inductees at 8

King Crimson

01. Robert Fripp (1968-Present: guitar, keyboards)
02. Greg Lake (1968-1970: vocals, bass; Emerson, Lake and Palmer, The Gods, Asia)
03. Ian McDonald (1968-1969: woodwinds, keyboards, guitar; Foreigner)
04. Michael Giles (1968-1969: vocals, drums)
05. Peter Sinfield (1968-1972: lyrics, keyboards, synthesizers)
06. Bill Bruford (1972-1998: drums; Yes)
07. Adrian Belew (1981-Present: vocals, guitar)
08. Tony Levin (1981-Present: bass, keyboards)
Tuesday, 02.21.17 @ 06:19am
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About Parliament-Funkadelic, Zack wrote:
  You made a mistake on your snubbed list, Cordell "Boogie" Mosson IS in the RRHOF. However Tawl Ross, who played on Funkadelic's first three albums as their rhythm guitarist isn't.
Monday, 02.20.17 @ 13:44pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Ben wrote:
  Enig,

I agree with you once again. There is a huge chasm between Prog fans and Punk fans. Punk has been dealt with by the Hall. I dont take anything away from that. It is perfectly fine that The Clash and Patti Smith were inducted in the Hall as well as the Sex Pistols. I am Not a fan of these but they had their place in Rock History. I like some tunes by the Clash.

However, There is no reason that Prog had to be so ignored. I had an upbringing of all kinds of Rock but NOT Punk too much at all. The bias and the limited # of inductees each year caused this. Clearly the Punk bands could have been inducted but also great Prog acts like Rush, Yes and the Moody Blues over 10 years ago. As you say forget the mistakes of the Past. Rush were inducted in 2013 and Yes this year in 2017.
Monday, 02.20.17 @ 07:28am
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About the 2017 Inductees, Philip wrote:
  Enig,

I saw the film "20th Century Women" which is set in 1979. From what I gather, it was pretty much always by design to market punk and art rock (which you deem to be prog adjacent) as being diametrically opposed and mutually exclusive in fan bases. Do you think that has any merit and may have any bearing on the conversation regarding punk and prog today?

Saturday, 02.18.17 @ 21:55pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Ben,

Ultimately, I think that there is still a huge chasm between those individuals who appreciate "prog" and those who appreciate punk. It was much easier for the record companies to promote numerous punk acts. The number of prog acts, in comparison, was extremely limited. New Wave is an umbrella term used by the music industry to describe those bands which had come after the advent of punk.
Saturday, 02.18.17 @ 21:39pm
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About Steppenwolf, Philip wrote:
  Ben,

Since you saw his point, perhaps you can understand what the heck is meant by "too real" and "honest/real approach." As opposed "dishonest/fictional approach"? It sounds like "real/honest" is little more than a way to describe music that resonates with your upbringing or worldview, but I'm sure that's not what is meant here. So, if you'd care to at least expound on that, it'd be appreciated.
Saturday, 02.18.17 @ 21:30pm
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About the 2017 Inductees, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Ben,

I had needed to amend that previous post, slightly.

Roy,

I find those disparaging comments written by Tim Sommer of The Observer to be quite inappropriate. For nearly four decades, we had to be bombarded by the nonsense of the short-lived punk rock movement. Now that prog is rightfully taking it's place, finally, in the pantheon of Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, some people are upset. Well, get over it, we had to deal with your b.s. about the greatness of punk rock, for nearly four decades and we are definitely sick and tired of it.

So, I guess that you do not like the idea that Rush had been deservedly inducted nearly four years ago and that now Yes has finally received this long overdue honor. Even better is the idea that two members of Rush will be inducting Yes. That must really cause you a great deal of anguish.

Regarding your arrogant statement about Kansas being unnecessary, once you had discovered the Sex Pistols, well that definitely does not work for me, either. After all, Kansas was a symphonic progressive rock group from the United States.

Oh well, it must also come as some surprise that not everybody had liked glam rock and that not everybody had listened to Sweet, or T. Rex, but that's not the only thing.

On the other hand, Roxy Music was much more artistic, actually they were an "art rock" band, so I would definitely agree that they also deserve a nomination.

As far as synthesizers are concerned, did not Tangerine Dream precede Kraftwerk by quite a few years. Do you see Edgar Froese, or Klaus Schulze, Christopher Franke and Peter Baumann, being nominated for the Rock Hall? No, you do not.

While I do agree that Kate Bush deserves to be inducted, I also think that Carly Simon should precede her.

When mentioning bands that came from Britain that were formed in the late seventies, you had failed to mention, Duran Duran and XTC, or are they perhaps, too progressive for you?
Saturday, 02.18.17 @ 20:44pm
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About Steppenwolf, Ben wrote:
  Philip,

It was the opinion of Red Jordon. I dont know him. I was responding to his opinion of Glitz and Glamour. He stated that Steppenwolf may have been too real. I simply saw his point. However this Red Jordan failed to say that there were many other acts with an honest approach. Many years back the Doors and the Animals had that real approach. So did Recent acts like Albert King, Heart, Rush, Joan Jett and Lou Reed. Red Jordan has not responded at all. Soo we can move on.
Saturday, 02.18.17 @ 10:19am
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