Stone Roses

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2010 (The 2011 Induction Ceremony)

Previously Considered? No  what's this?

Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2023 (ranked #227) .

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The Stone Roses (1989)

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Fool's Gold (1989)
I Wanna Be Adored (1989)

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Will Stone Roses be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."


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i hope that bands who only had the opportunity to release two albums and that weren't very popular in the states are biased against, cos stone roses we actually really good

Posted by Liam on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 11:44am

Too short lived and completely unknown to 99% of people in the states. No way. Now if Second Coming didn't bomb...

Posted by Jeff on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 18:30pm

Shup jeff if these guys dont get in it proves the States poor taste and the absurdity of this 'rocknroll' hall of fame(i mean snoop dogg for fucks sake!)

Posted by Liam on Thursday, 06.7.07 @ 15:48pm

There will never be a musical "Hall of Fame" that isn't total shit. There's just too much going on and too few useful statistics to make an accurate measurement. Combine that with the necessity to appease people so you can sell them tickets and what do you get?

Posted by William on Thursday, 06.7.07 @ 18:10pm

well said liam, the roses influenced oasis who will be no doubt inducted, and they influened have the crap ones today. Roses and Oasis!!!!

Posted by eric on Saturday, 06.9.07 @ 09:40am

"Combine that with the necessity to appease people so you can sell them tickets and what do you get?"

A HOF completely biased against disbanded artists and those who refuse to/can't perform

Posted by liam on Saturday, 09.8.07 @ 07:38am

By the way, William, your writing that comment here specifically gives me an impression that you would consider the Stone Roses for induction, if only a small one.


Posted by liam on Friday, 12.7.07 @ 13:27pm

Yeah, sure, but the real reason I commented was in response to the comment directly above.

Posted by William on Friday, 12.7.07 @ 20:54pm

What did you think of The Stone Roses and MBV, Shawn?

Posted by Liam on Monday, 04.14.08 @ 14:06pm

I was surprised to find that I actually found MBV fascinating and was indifferent about Stone Roses.

Stone Roses disappointed me, though I am still trying to get what the hoopla is about. Without being sarcastic, can you explain what I am missing? At first I thought, "Hey these guys sound like the British Replacments.", but then after 3 listens they seem pleasnt enough to me but unremarkable; I don't get it.

Much more interesting do I find Happy Mondays, Blur, Supergrass. I find contemporary bands like Spoon and The Black Keys far more interesting but they don not have the legendary status that Stone Roses seem to have garnered. I just don't get it. Help me.

Posted by shawn on Monday, 04.14.08 @ 15:00pm

You've got to remember that when The Stone Roses came about, the British guitar music scene wasn't exactly at a high point. We did have some great shoe-gaze bands, but they had neither the confidence nor the accessibility-in-sound to garner much more than a large cult following. That one album helped Britpop by giving Blur, Oasis, Suede et al. a platform to stand on.

I suppose alot of the furore was fueled by how quickly The Roses dissolved after the record. They lost a legal battle with thei label, and were prevented from recording again for six years.

Try listening to it on a sunny day, out loud. I've always felt the record has a really summery feel to it. Try to focus on Squire's guitar work underneath Mani's Bass and Reni's drums; I know that helped me, as I didn't as much as I do now before doing so.

Which Blur record(s) do you have? Parklife? Have you tried Bummed by Happy Mondays yet?

Your mission for this week/fortnight: The Smiths, Echo and The Bunnymen and Cocteau Twins. I'd recommend The Queen Is Dead, Ocean Rain and Head Over Heels (respectively) as good starting places.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 04:29am

Ha! Glad you've given me a fortnight - that's a lot of homework, but I have been curious about Echo &the Bunnymen & Cocteau Twins since seeing you rave about them a dozen times now.

I shall listen again the Stone Roses with an ear to the things you describe on a sunny day.

Still don't have "Bummed" by HMs.
I have "Modern Life is Rubbish" by Blur.

Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 09:04am

Bummed is alot tighter than Pills n' Thrills, as there's a much heavier post-punk influence on it; still contains the insane dance beats and melodies. Alot of people I know actually say that Bummed is superior to Pills n' Thrills, and atm I'm with 'em!

I'm pretty sure you'll like The Bunnymen if you like The Waterboys; McCulloch has one of those big, powerful voices, and Sergeant, Pattinson and DeFreitas gave him a sound to match. I'd say that Ocean Rain is the place to start for you since it's more accessible than Crocodiles, Heaven Up Here or Porcupine, and stronger than their eponymous (the latter being the weakest in the first five).

I'd be shocked if you didn't like Cocteau Twins now I know you like MBV.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 10:20am

I am enthused and will get on this, Liam!
i really liked Pills n Thrills... so I expect to like Bummed.

Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 10:42am

I'm sure that you'll enjoy The Smiths, too, since Blur, Oasis, Supergrass and Happy Mondays took influence from them, but alot of people find Morrissey's singing and lyrics a bit obnoxious and abrasive.

The Queen Is Dead is their masterpiece, but Strangeways, Here We Come is the most varied, and the compilation Louder Than Bombs has alot of good stuff packed into it. Any of those is good to begin with, but if I had to go with one, it'd be The Queen Is Dead.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 11:45am

Basically, Morrissey will either seal or break the deal for you. I, for one, find his lyrics thought-provoking, witty, tongue-in-cheek, cunning, moody, and beautiful, but alot of people I know don't.

PS It should be noted that Morrissey's best singing is on Strangeways.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 11:53am

I actually saw The Smiths in concert at a very small venue back in 1986 or 87 and remember liking them. They were constantly being played too in the Tower Records store I worked in at the time (along with The Smithereens, Jane's Addiction, The Cult, Crowded House, Beastie Boys, The Cure, XTC and Paul Simon's 'Graceland'; also remember something very odd called Skinny Puppy back then)

Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 12:41pm

Ever hear 'The Killing Moon' or 'Lips Like Sugar' by Echo and The Bunnymen? Those get alot of indie radio airplay over here.

XTC are really great, kind of like the UK's very own Cars. If anyone perfected the three minute pop song, it was XTC.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 12:59pm

Lips Like Sugar and The Killing Moon actually get played on Classic Rock radio stations in NY.

I wouldn't say that XTC perfected the 3 minute pop song, but they sure as sh*t made some good ones. Back in the day, "Life Begins at the Hop" was one of the most played tracks in the NYC clubs. I love this band.

I do hope that both bands get inducted one day.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 14:07pm

My favorite XTC songs are Cross Wires, This Is Pop?, Generals and Majors, Making Plans For Nigel, Runaways and Another Satellite, and my favourite album is Drums and Wires.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 14:31pm

I won't vote on this one but I'm leaning "No".

The first album still sounds fantastic but...what else? It's true that Britpop drew much from their well, but I feel they're still mostly a stepping stone after The Smiths rather than a real force. Their counterparts Happy Mondays did more with House music and just gave us more in general (as to whether they get in, that's another story...).

The Brits still revere them, I'd say to an insane degree, but their achievement ultimately doesn't quite measure up.

Posted by Jonas on Tuesday, 12.16.08 @ 03:46am

I might be moving back to the U.K. this summer; if I do, it should be easier to get my hands on the first album and thus get the full feel for them. With that said, I've heard a couple of tracks that are quite good, and they were one of the major forces at the Hacienda, and might've been a vital part of (possibly the beginning of) Madchester (can you clarify this, Liam?) Hearing Noel Gallagher say that without them there wouldnt've been Oasis was also big, as I can't imagine life without Oasis. I'm not going to make a decision yet but I'm leaning "Yes." Probably won't happen though.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 02.22.10 @ 18:06pm

if the hall of fame has the slightest trace of integrity, then the roses are getting in.

Posted by ryan on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 20:02pm

I agree with Ryan but it another year at the earliest.. I would not be surprised with in the next 5 years or so ..
Lets Hope

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 20:37pm

The definitive Madchester band, influenced pretty much every Britpop band in some way. The first album is universally regarded as a classic. Not a lot of material, but of what there was it was very innovative. Also, one of Oasis biggest influences.

Posted by Eric on Tuesday, 08.24.10 @ 23:48pm

All right, so the first album is overhyped in my mind (um, NME? I don't even think it's the greatest British debut album of all time) but on the whole it is a classic. Just like the one Sex Pistols album changed music and was enough to get them inducted, the one classic Stone Roses album changed music (though not as much as the Pistols.) I say "induct" but after others (The Buzzcocks, The Smiths, Happy Mondays, New Order, Joy Division and some others. Not to mention snubs outside of British Alt.) I hope all of the above get in but I don't expect any of them too.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 10.8.10 @ 03:39am

Sadly, no they wont, 1 album (although an all time great album) will not land them in the hall of fame. if only silvertone would of released them from their contract..

Posted by Rose Bud on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 13:24pm

Or if only Gareth Evans (WANKER!) had allowed them to sign to Rough Trade instead. If only they'd known more about the business, and thus known not to sign such an oppressive contract. Of if only they'd released "Second Coming" sooner (like a year before they did; Madchester was dying regardless, but then they would've had it out before the changing tastes fully came about.) As it is, they didn't put it out until '94, by which time Britpop had come along and not very many people paid attention to it; if they'd put it out in '92 or '93 it may have done better. There's a bunch of things involved in one of these "what might've been" situations.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 05:26am

Here's what I was referring to: Mani's the only member in this doc. but I reccomend it if you want to know a brief history of the Roses plus a mostly accurate telling of how it all went wrong. Here you are, you can make up your own mind:

Posted by Sam on Friday, 11.5.10 @ 17:51pm

As to the rumours that Slash almost joined, he answered that question for the Guardian:

"I'd heard of the Stone Roses, but I'd never met them. I think I was probably too busy in Guns N' Roses at the time. Maybe it might've been a good idea. Someone told me we tried to recruit the lead singer into Velvet Revolver. That's not true either."

Obviously if he had joined and they'd continued and been wanting to get back to the first album it wouldn't have worked, but... interesting prospect all the same.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 07.4.11 @ 18:25pm

once again the "rock and roll hall of fame" is just a gmmick

Posted by trey on Saturday, 12.10.11 @ 18:03pm

Influence: Big influence on british indie/alt scene. 25
Innovation: Defined madchester and britpop. 15
Critical respect: Their debut album is often called one of the best british albums of all time. 20
Commercial: Not too substantial, but had pretty large sucess in the UK. 5

65, worthy, but wouldn't be the biggest oversight.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 06.1.12 @ 15:31pm

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