Sonic Youth

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2007 (The 2008 Induction Ceremony)

Previously Considered? Yes  what's this?


Inducted into Rock Hall Revisited in 2008 (ranked #131) .


Essential Albums (?)WikipediaAmazon MP3Amazon CD
Sister (1987)
Daydream Nation (1988)
Goo (1990)
Dirty (1992)

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Teenage Riot (1988)
'Cross the Breeze (1988)
Kool Thing (1990)

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Will Sonic Youth be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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Sonic Youth is one of the few truly unique rock bands of the past 30 years. Just listen to Sister and Daydream Nation. What other music reminds you of those records? They are extremely influential, and it would be a shame if they were not inducted.

Posted by Derek on Thursday, 07.27.06 @ 19:39pm


Though I really couldn't care less if Sonic Youth make it into the Rock Hall or not, one needs to realize that this is a band that (after 25 years) is still making vital, challenging, and exciting music. Sonic Youth is far and away a better and more interesting band than just about all of the other bands on this list.

Posted by Jordan on Thursday, 08.3.06 @ 13:49pm


No way will Sonic Youth NOT be inducted...but not until I get the chance to be the one to induct them!!

Posted by CV on Thursday, 08.3.06 @ 14:10pm


sonic youth, no one else on that list is worthy... the beastie boys!!! c'mon, what have the beastie boys done for music.

Posted by confusionisnext on Thursday, 08.3.06 @ 14:16pm


No other band has been as pertinent or influential to underground rock music as SY. Although awards and figures really don't mean shit, this band by far deserves recognition for the great music they still are making to this very day. Few bands can attest to this 25 years into their career.

seeing some of these other "bands" inducted over Sonic Youth would simply be a joke. But hey, the Library of Congress recently included SY in their archives, and really that speaks volumes right there to this band's importance in our time.

Posted by Sean on Thursday, 08.3.06 @ 23:35pm


Sonic Youth for Secretary of the United Nations!

Posted by aly-im-not-a-girl-asa on Friday, 08.4.06 @ 06:23am


Chile !!

Posted by Jose on Friday, 08.18.06 @ 00:16am


Sonic Youth is not only a very, very good band on their own, but they have had a vast influence on music over the past few decades.

How many artists owe their sound (or their success, when SY finds them and promotes them) to SY? A large number.

If SY doesn't make it in by 2010, there is something seriously wrong with the selection process.

Posted by Aeirould on Monday, 08.21.06 @ 00:59am


Keep in mind that Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation" is now on the National Recording Registry:

http://fak3r.com/2006/04/13/daydream-nation-now-on-the-national-recording-registry/

I think that alone should show people the importance of their music, regardless of their sales.

fak3r

Posted by fak3r on Thursday, 09.14.06 @ 13:31pm


An incredible band, this generations Velvet Underground. If they're not in first ballot I'm...I'm not really sure what I will do but it will be drastic and unfortunate.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 23:30pm


Definite first ballot induction.......hopefully, they'll open the doors for many other underground pioneers.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12.12.06 @ 02:36am


Sonic Youth is one of the few bands still making music that's as influential and innovative as when they first started out. They have made a huge contribution to music and should definitely be recognized for it.

Posted by Terri on Friday, 03.2.07 @ 14:39pm


It's the job of a hall to give to greatest artists a recognition: so of course they will induct sonic youth. When is another question: the first year would be great. If R.E.m made on their first year, it's quite possible for SY to do it

Posted by roméo on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 11:46am


THIS BAND SHOULD BE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THEIR IMPORTANCE TO MUSIC IS UNDENIABLE! THEY ARE STILL ROCKING THE WORLD WITH THEIR AWESOME MUSIC 25 + YEARS LATER. THEY ALONG WITH THE PIXIES HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR SO MANY BANDS. HATS OFF TO SY!!!

Posted by CAYCE on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 09:56am


THIS BAND SHOULD BE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THEIR IMPORTANCE TO MUSIC IS UNDENIABLE! THEY ARE STILL ROCKING THE WORLD WITH THEIR AWESOME MUSIC 25 + YEARS LATER. THEY ALONG WITH THE PIXIES HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR SO MANY BANDS. HATS OFF TO SY!!!

Posted by CAYCE on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 09:57am


Sonic Youth approach to the physcial playing of various instruments was innovative, and original. Sonic Youth or Bad Brains should be inducted.

Posted by boysdontcry67 on Thursday, 03.22.07 @ 17:48pm


It will be an absolute sham if Sonic Youth don't get inducted - they're more influential than plenty of artists already in there.

Posted by MAFK on Friday, 03.30.07 @ 01:05am


Who cares how long they have been around and their influence? Who did they influence? Being around forever doesn't make you eligible, neither does just being influential. You could influence a lot of bad bands. Being influential doesn't mean your any good either. Bottom line is no one buys their records, no one goes to their shows hardly. I have never seen one person in my entire life with one of their cd's. In fact I have never heard anyone say they have listened to them. Bottom line: They are another critics darling like R.E.M. The critics suck, SO DO SONIC YOUTH!

Posted by mike on Wednesday, 04.4.07 @ 20:11pm


Criticism is bad because it involves thinking! I will let the radio think for me!

Posted by William on Wednesday, 04.4.07 @ 21:41pm


Honestly, that's not even an arguement. Plenty of people listen to and own Sonic Youth records, your somewhat questionable circle of friends notwithstanding. Fusing the pure sound of the no wave with traditional rock structures to create something wholly unique merits hall of fame status, "crappy alternative" or not.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 04.4.07 @ 23:54pm


Yes, I think they should and probably - eventually - will be inducted. I personally love this band. Without them, I don't think there would be that many garage bands left in the traditional sense of the word.

That said, I'd love a nomination for Swans. Essentially, Swans are Sonic Youth through a funhouse mirror. The most stylistically restless band ever, and possibly the heaviest. Not in the metal sense, in the "physical wall of sound" sense. Plus, they've been ripped off to some extent by everyone from Godflesh to GYBE!.

Posted by J.H.M. on Sunday, 04.29.07 @ 19:45pm


Sonic Youth is the most influencial band of the last 25 years. They have created and mastered a genre. EVOL and Daydream Nation are milestones of the 80's and Goo and Dirty are milestones of the 90's. Thurston and Lee are two of the best guitarists that ever lived. They are extremely talented. They have influenced everybody making music today. If it weren't for them we wouldn't know who Nirvana is. Oh and for the dumbass who said that they aren't good because they havn't sold a lot of records guess who only had one hit song in the US while he was alive. Jimi Hendrix. So if selling lots of records and making lots of money means you are talented then i guess the Backstreet Boys, N'Sync , and Britney Spears are very talented and influencial, but i guess people like the Velvet Underground and Jimi Hendrix aren't. Go learn something. Go learn where your music came from. Without Sonic Youth music would not be what it is today. Sonic Youth belonged in the Hall of Fame 25 years ago.

Posted by chase on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 10:59am


I love this band. I own most of their CDs. I am hoping they get in next year, but it doesn't matter I know they will be inducted at some point.

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 19:30pm


Plus, they're one of maybe two semi-well-known bands still out there that almost never use standard tuning. In fact, one of the most common Sonic Youth guitar tunings is F#F#F#F#EB, often with either a capo, screwdriver or drumstick on or under one of the frets. Yes, you read that right.

Posted by J.H.M. on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 13:09pm


Sonic Youth is the most innovative and ahead of their time guitar band in the last 25 to 30 years, perhaps ever. They basically re-wrote all the rules of rock guitar, and created a vast new palette of sounds and textures all their own; the widest of any guitar band ever; and deliver it all around creative, well written songs with a passionate fury of emotion and open ended intensity that is awe inspiring.
Although much immitated, they have never really been duplicated, and have almost singlehandedly, spawned the whole modern genre of indie rock (although they likely see themselves as being post punk). They have continued making so many great albums, and stayed artistically valid for 26+ years (and counting) of hard work and dedication to their muse (and constant touring), without going downhill like most bands that have stayed together as long as they have (and seldom few make it half that far, anyway).
If they do not get in the Hall on the FIRST BALLOT this year, it would be a CRIME, and evidence the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame to be a big overcommercialized JOKE.

Posted by J.R. on Thursday, 08.9.07 @ 03:00am


Yeah, but their albums didn't sell shit and Bon Jovi sold like seven to every person on this planet. Hall of FAME. This isn't about the music.

Or at least that's the brain-dead argument made by everyone else. I'll shoot myself in the leg if Sonic Youth doesn't get inducted on the first ballot. What else would there be to believe in?

Rapture?

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 08.9.07 @ 19:32pm


Sonic Youth is a true innovator. They continue to create beyond our/their boundaries with each album. Dude, they gotta get in!

Posted by Farty ChoStanky on Friday, 08.24.07 @ 23:40pm


What few songs I've heard from them I've enjoyed greatly. They should be inducted.

Posted by Kelsey on Monday, 09.3.07 @ 16:29pm


Sonic Youth are one of the most influential bands of the past 25 years...they SHOULD be no-doubters

Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 09.3.07 @ 17:24pm


sonic youth may be a talanted band that deserves to get inducted into the hall of fame but they should wait a few years so that older acts can get in before them.

Posted by danny on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 07:17am


Bands that revolutionize rock usually don't get into the hall of fame unless someone in the band passes away first. They'll get in, but not before someone dies or has a terminal illness. The politics of the whole thing gives me a headache.

Posted by qoz on Monday, 11.19.07 @ 11:58am


Does anyone remember when Sonic Youth was on The Simpsons stealing sandwiches from Peter Frampton's cooler? Hilarious.

Posted by Mike on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 00:57am


Or at least that's the brain-dead argument made by everyone else. I'll shoot myself in the leg if Sonic Youth doesn't get inducted on the first ballot. What else would there be to believe in?

Rapture?.............Casper


How is that gunshot wound Casper?

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Tuesday, 12.2.08 @ 12:53pm


If The Stooges get in this year, and it looks like they will, Sonic Youth will be inducted within the next five years.

They really are arguably the best rock band of the late twentieth century. As mentioned above, Daydream Nation has been included in the National Recording Registry. EVOL, Sister, and Daydream Nation are at the heart of underground popular music around the world. Sonic Youth have done more than anyone since their inception to apply and refine experimental techniques in popular music. They are the standard bearers.

Sonic Youth is mandatory. Yes, Yes, Yes.

Posted by Jonas on Tuesday, 12.16.08 @ 04:28am


Hell no, Sonic Youth shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. They've made a career out of boring, masturbatory music, only enjoyed by dull, bloodless hipsters.

I find it ridiculous that we're discussing putting Sonic Youth in the RnR Hall of Fame, when their music is arguably not even Rock, but no one has expressed any opinion on inducting the Sonics (http://www.futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=The_Sonics), who have been eligible since 1990.

Posted by Earl Lee Marshall on Friday, 01.2.09 @ 15:05pm


For those who want a Keltner analysis of Sonic Youth, here it is at http://jpbenney.blogspot.com/2009/06/keltner-analysis-of-undiscussed-rock.html. I will say Sonic Youth do deserve induction overall.

Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Wednesday, 06.3.09 @ 04:36am


i've never thought they were deeply influenced by The Carpenters.

Tunic was a nice rock piece. Nice guitar scratching same with Superstar.

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 07.30.09 @ 17:38pm


Really ... This band has been a seminal influence on every band since they have published music. I cannot believe they were not inducted in 2007 (the first year they were eligible). IT IS TIME. Please, even though this is clearly "corporate," they need and deserve this recognition. I myself as a music lover, want my children to know their music right along with Maria Callas. They are hugely influential.

Posted by Lori M on Friday, 10.9.09 @ 21:01pm


Or, what I should have said with the R & R Hall of Fame is I want my children to know Sonic Youth as well as Metallica. I mean, I honestly feel that in terms of having my kids know who the great ones were before them, it's as much about Sonic Youth as it was Led Zepplin or Leonard Cohen. (Putting Maria Callas in there was important, but not as relevant in this good old R & R discussion.)

Posted by Lori M on Friday, 10.9.09 @ 21:09pm


28 years (+ counting) and still the coolest band on the planet.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 10.27.09 @ 19:10pm


Yes, there is no question. Daydream Nation is preserved in the Library of Congress for goodness sake. And Teen Age Riot is one of the greatest songs of all time, probably the best of the eighties.

Posted by Calzone on Saturday, 03.20.10 @ 10:09am


The most influential and important American band of the last 30 years.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 07.14.10 @ 09:41am


Yes. Very influential.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 07.15.10 @ 19:46pm


Richard Carpenter may not have thought very highly of Sonic Youth's rendition of "Superstar" but I'd take Sonic Youth's version over his any day

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 09:48am


I just checked out "Daydream Nation" for the first time. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it's certainly unique, and it's definitely a good album. It seems to be one of those albums that takes a few listens to really sink in.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 08.4.10 @ 20:09pm


Daydream Nation is preserved in the freaking library of congress. Screw the hall of fame, Sonic Youth one up'd the place. :)

Posted by Calzone on Friday, 08.13.10 @ 15:36pm


Daydream Nation is preserved in the freaking library of congress. Screw the hall of fame, Sonic Youth one up'd the place. :)

Posted by Calzone on Friday, 08.13.10 @ 15:36pm

No kidding!! And the fact that Sonic Youth haven't even been considered yet is a joke!!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 03.24.11 @ 13:15pm


Listening to 'Daydream Nation' is like hearing music for the first time. Pitchfork (with whom I have many petpeeves) didn't rate it the #1 album of the 80's for nothing.

'EVOL' and (especially) 'Sister' (an egregious omission) should be in the 'Essential Albums' section -- shame on whomever didn't vote for them in that project of yours.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.11.11 @ 13:13pm


"Pitchfork (with whom I have many petpeeves) didn't rate it the #1 album of the 80's for nothing."

I'm critical of them too, but I can't complain about that, though it's not my favorite album of the 80's. On the other hand, OK Computer and Loveless are NOT the best two albums of the 90's. That list has... no Definitely Maybe (holds up better than Morning Glory), no Suede or Dog Man Star, no Rust In Peace, no Dirt or Facelift, no Ten or Vs., no Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches, no Cowboys From Hell, no Slim Shady LP... and worst, not a single Soundgarden album. I'm not saying all of them should be on the list or that any of them should be #1, but to have none of them listed while the vastly overrated Screamadelica is above Blue Lines? I'm not having it.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 08.13.11 @ 17:30pm


"I'm critical of them too, but I can't complain about that, though it's not my favorite album of the 80's. On the other hand, OK Computer and Loveless are NOT the best two albums of the 90's. That list has... no Definitely Maybe (holds up better than Morning Glory), no Suede or Dog Man Star, no Rust In Peace, no Dirt or Facelift, no Ten or Vs., no Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches, no Cowboys From Hell, no Slim Shady LP... and worst, not a single Soundgarden album. I'm not saying all of them should be on the list or that any of them should be #1, but to have none of them listed while the vastly overrated Screamadelica is above Blue Lines? I'm not having it."

1. If 'Loveless' isn't the #1 album of the 90's than it's 1a.

2. You have legitimate beefs with 'Definitely Maybe', 'Suede', 'Ten', 'Pills, Thrills...' and the 'Slim Shady LP' not being on the list, but none of the others you mentioned deserve entry on the list (except perhaps the Pantera album).

- Megadeth's only (near) masterpiece was 'Peace Sells...'
- 'Dog Man Star' is a very good and underrated album but doesn't deserve to be on any best-of-decade lists
- 'Vs.' isn't even the second best Pearl Jam album of the 90's
- and Alice & Chains are one of the most overrated groups in rock history. ('Facelift' especially is an utterly underwhelming album).

Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 08.13.11 @ 18:22pm


Oh and Parklife is great but it's not better than Different Class. As far as I'm concerned Blur might've done their best work when they moved away from Britpop (Their self-titled and 13).

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 08.14.11 @ 05:39am


Elastica also deserves consideration. I've taken your points into account though.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 08.14.11 @ 05:41am


I like them but I'd say no. This is another instance of valuing pretension over artistic merit. It is actually very easy to do self-referential art music. It is infinitely more difficult to write a good song. No Wave was an artistic dead-end and a waste of talent. It's a cop out to stand on your own little island reveling on your supposed unconventionality. It is a much greater accomplishment to be able to creatively operate within conventional boundaries and in turn to change conventional music. It's really a simple issue: where are the good songs and where is this vaunted "influence"? That critics lap this stuff up with mind-numbing (and mindless) predictablity means nothing. Of course they do. It gives them the chance to pat themselves on the back. But when you look back on other non-mainstream bands like the Velvet Underground or the Stooges you actually have great songs. You don't have that with SY.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 03:34am


1. They do have great songs. Daydream Nation is full of them.

2. Of course they've influenced. They were one of Nirvana's favorites. The first Pavement album sounds like both SY and The Fall; they kind of ripped off both in equal measure. "The band's trio of late 80's independent records - EVOL, Sister, Daydream Nation - became touchstones for a generation of indie rockers who either replicated the noise or reinterpreted it in a palatable setting." "During the 90's most American indie bands, and many British underground bands, displayed a heavy debt to Sonic Youth..."

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 06:32am


Astrodog thinks that Sonic Youth shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame, but KISS should. Enough said.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 08:37am


Well Kiss was the biggest band of the 70s. A band's real world impact has to be taken into account. Some bands are artistically brilliant but commercially unsuccessful, like the Velvet Underground, and some bands are so commercially successful that they cannot legitimately be ignored no matter what you think about them. Like Kiss. Just because you or I think a band is good or bad is not the relevant issue. (I even said I didn't think they were a "great" band). Unless of course you think this is just a fully subjective process. If not, actual benchmarks need to be considered. If all you have is your feelings, than "enough said" right back at you. :)

Beyond that, the whole "influence" discussion can be very amorphous. The independent music scene predates SY and would have gone on without them. But in any event, virtually all bands have some influence. The issue is whether that influence is so great, like the Sex Pistols, the Stooges and possibly the NY Dolls, that it becomes a basis for induction outside of conventional measures of success. I don't think SY's influence even exceeds Joy Division, a band which is on the border on that issue.

So what do we have? Limited real world success and not exactly overwhelming influence. Balanced against this is the fact that sophisticates really like them. Actually so do I. Just like I like Gun Club and Suicide and Tuxedomoon and Gang of Four. But I don't think they deserve induction either. Otherwise make room for all the bands I like just because, well, I like them.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 19:06pm


1. Kiss EASILY WAS NOT the biggest band of the 70's

2. Sonic Youth has had plenty of "real world impact".

3. Kiss was the antithesis of artistic brilliance.

4. Innovation and influence (which Sonic Youth has in spades) are the actual induction criterion, not record sales/commercial success (which Sonic Youth has plenty of -- while not in KISS's league).

5. You say that you like Sonic Youth, yet you fail to see that they are easily one of a handful of the most important/influential groups of the last 30 years? They're not even my favourite group and I can see that. And you say they're not deserving of the R&RHOF... well, the HOF is not worthy of them.

6. Gun Club were a really cool band with a few very good records, Tuxedomoon were alright, Suicide and Gang of Four both have legit arguments for induction due to influence/innovation. NONE of them are really that close to Sonic Youth.

You're basically (purposefully?) ignoring the influence SY had on american underground in the late 80's/90's, not to mention bands like Nirvana and Indie/alternative right up to present day.

Really, your whole argument (or lack thereof) is beyond galling -- and pathetic.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 19:27pm


Let's settle on "one of the biggest bands of the 70s." Same point.
Things like innovation/influence can be very subjective subjects. SY didn't exactly invent anything they did. Nor were they alone in doing it. And what about bands like REM or Husker Du or the Replacements or the Minutemen when we discuss the alternative music scene. Heck, what about the whole punk era? You keep mentioning Nirvana, but Nirvana liked the Pixies and Gun Club and the Violent Femmes and many others. Somehow, with or without SY's music, I'm fairly certain that Smells Like Teen Spirit is still coming out. It's just way too easy to exaggerate a band's influence. But if that's what you hang your hat on, it better be obvious.
And who is the authority on artistic brilliance? A lot of snubbed bands can make that claim. Some may even have a point. But people disagree. Still SY is the type of band that music writers are almost guaranteed to like; it fits their ego perfectly. And that can get you far in the absence of other tangible considerations.
Finally, I never aspire to be pathetic. Some of us are just born that way.


Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 20:32pm


He did not say he liked SY, Chalkie; in fact he implied the opposite (no offense Mr. Dog, as that is your opinion).

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 17:40pm


None taken. Music is a personal thing. I tend to have an instinctive suspicion about critics' darlings, mainly because I think music writers rarely have anything useful to say. They are just fans like you or I, susceptible to the same biases and group think. (Incidentally Allmusic tends to have a college radio sensibility; always gushing about their favorites' influence and so forth). Plus, I know too many of the 70s alt groups to think the SY was all that innovative. Their earlier albums were actually very derivative of No Wave bands like Mars or DNA. (Moore's book was actually pretty good). I'm sure most people here are familiar with the No New York album, but the thing that really threw me for a loop was how much the vocals on SY's earliest albums sounded just like Walter Stedding in a bootleg I have of him performing at Irving Plaza in 1978. It was uncanny. Personally I think Tuxedomoon's early albums like Half Mute are more interesting than anything I heard on Daydream Nation. I liked Teenaged Riot, but it sounded just like a Buzzcocks song after the intro. But all that said, they made the short list. As I noted critical love can get you far. Whether it should is another story.

Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 21:55pm


Suppose I'll have to check them (the No Wave groups) out. I'd say being first-wave American Indie qualifies you, however. I'd kind of like to see Joy Division in first though, even if that'll never happen.

You mentioned Gang Of Four: I believe they belong too, for originality as well as influence. Groups that fearlessly push the creative envelope like they do should be recognized when those innovations affect everything from indie to post-punk to rap-rock/rap-metal, and when they have enough strong material to back it up.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 09.7.11 @ 18:22pm


"Kiss was the antithesis of artistic brilliance."

You know, I've heard the term "artistic brilliance" get thrown around a lot by music critics (actually, by critics in general) and I'd really love to hear your definition of the term, Chalkie. Not necessarily disagreeing with your judgment of Kiss, just curious how you think Kiss is the antithesis of it (and Sonic Youth is the definition of it as you implied), that's all.

It's always good when terms like "artistic brilliance," "flawlessly artistic" or "pure art" are used to take a step back and say, "wait a minute, what does that REALLY mean?"

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 10.30.11 @ 06:27am


Ah, read back to the beginning of the discussion and hear's another one of those "bombs" dropped by astrodog:

"I like them but I'd say no. This is another instance of valuing pretension over artistic merit."

"Pretension" and "artistic merit." I'm not trying to be condescending FYI, just pointing out the use of these tricky critical terms.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 10.30.11 @ 06:32am


"I'll shoot myself in the leg if Sonic Youth doesn't get inducted on the first ballot. What else would there be to believe in?" - Casper (08.9.07)

"If they're not in first ballot I'm...I'm not really sure what I will do but it will be drastic and unfortunate." - Kit (11.25.06)

I wonder if Casper did end up shooting himself and I also wonder what Kit ended up doing.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 11.16.11 @ 16:21pm


Personally I tend favor bands that can be creative without having to put up a neon sign with the word "ART" in bold, flashing letters every time they take the stage. But that's just me.

Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 11.16.11 @ 21:02pm


Same here, dog. I went out and bought the album that has "Teen Age Riot" on it (can't think of the album name off the top of my head. It's decent stuff, but it does kind of insist upon itself. Still just for sheer influence and impact, I wouldn't object. I probably wouldn't vote for them, but I wouldn't call them a bad call either.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11.16.11 @ 21:26pm


Sonic Youth? Yawn, just another hipster band (see also The Pixies, The Dead Kennedys, etc.) whose place in music history is grossly inflated by critics who flock to any band that isn't mainstream.

Musically, Sonic Youth doesn't impress me. Music that is self-conscious about its artistic merit (see also free jazz) is the aural equivalent of masturbation. I tried to give SY a chance, but they underwhelmed me. All the more reason to not trust what critics say.

Now if you want a non-commercial music act worthy of enshrining in the RRHOF, Jobriath is it!

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 03.25.12 @ 19:01pm


SY hipsters? lol good one

Posted by ,qeq on Wednesday, 07.4.12 @ 23:33pm


"Sonic Youth? Yawn, just another hipster band (see also The Pixies, The Dead Kennedys, etc.) whose place in music history is grossly inflated by critics who flock to any band that isn't mainstream.

Musically, Sonic Youth doesn't impress me. Music that is self-conscious about its artistic merit (see also free jazz) is the aural equivalent of masturbation. I tried to give SY a chance, but they underwhelmed me. All the more reason to not trust what critics say."

Constipation of the brain; diarrhea of the mouth.

Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 10.6.12 @ 16:49pm


You decided to come back and troll me again, huh? When will you ever learn not to be such a bloviating, arrogant schmuck?

Look, I don't consider Sonic Youth to be awful or the worst of the worst (I reserve that dishonor for the likes of Ke$ha, Snoop Dogg, New Kids on the Block, and KC and the Sunshine Band), but they fail to impress me. I'm not going to force myself to like SY just because others say they're great. That would be insincere.

Get lost and quit while you're still behind, chalkdust. You're not going to boss me around.

Posted by Zach on Saturday, 10.6.12 @ 17:27pm


Why the hate for KC and the sunshine band?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.6.12 @ 17:52pm


Mainly radio overexposure. The annoying, repetitive choruses in KC and the Sunshine Band's repertoire also irritate me to no end. When it comes to disco, I prefer Donna Summer, The Bee Gees, Boney M, and Alicia Bridges.

Posted by Zach on Saturday, 10.6.12 @ 18:10pm


"You're not going to boss me around." -- Zach

Holy sweet shit, have you got an inferiority complex... What are you, like 5???

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.7.12 @ 18:34pm


"Get lost and quit while you're still behind, chalkdust." -- Zach

Actually, judging from our tastes in music, comparatively speaking, I'm miles ahead.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.7.12 @ 18:36pm


wait, shit isn't censored anymore?

awww sweet.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 12.7.12 @ 18:43pm


I just discovered your replies, Chalkie. No, I'm not 5 years old (The average 5-year old doesn't possess the vocabulary and knowledge that I wield), and I don't have an inferiority complex, but you have a habit of goading others with unprovoked, snide remarks (astrodog, Dameon, basically anyone who's ever disagreed with you). When you make an unprovoked, nasty attack, you should expect some kind of rebuttal.

You started this mess with your little comment on the Woody Guthrie page about my political leanings (If you badly need to be reminded, I'd be glad to pull it up) when I criticized his music. You somehow assumed that my loathing of Woody had something to do with his political beliefs, even though I clearly said that his droning voice was the main reason, and that I avoid politically-oriented songs regardless of what position they take. In your case, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

"Get lost and quit while you're still behind, chalkdust." -- Zach

Actually, judging from our tastes in music, comparatively speaking, I'm miles ahead.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.7.12 @ 18:36pm

Wait, when did I ever say anything about whose taste in music was superior? All I meant was that you had nothing but terse, condescending attacks to make in response to my comments. I've never read a comment of yours that made me think or actually taught me something that I didn't previously know. When I post on an artist's page whom I like, I try to share some information on who they've influenced, how they fared on the charts, factoids about their careers, and other information. You'll never see me post something as miniscule as "Great band" or "Underrated singer."

Actually, my musical tastes are quite diverse and deep, in terms of how many genres and decades are represented (I focus on the decades spanning the 1900s to the mid-1980s). I'm quite content with what I like and I really don't feel the need to bitch over whose taste is better. There's no such thing as objective taste in music, unless someone's taste in music consists entirely of top 40/teenybopper trash, all of which I avoid like the plague.

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 00:22am


Hugely productive and beyond seminal band that has done a great job making sure their legacy will stand up over time. Daydream Nation is one of the great musical statements of the last 25 years, the Library of Congress has codified it in its "American music" classics catologue, and the 25th anniversary is coming up fast -- October 2013. This anniversary will be a great hook for them next year.

As much as I like bands like Janes Addiction, Yes, KISS or Cheap Trick, New York Dolls (not in any order), I have a feeling Sonic Youth just might be recognized before them all. Maybe along with Deep Purple next year? Can you imagine the mind-blowing version of "Smoke on the Water" that would erupt out of that? Can't wait to see it ...

Although I might have to.

Posted by JDM on Monday, 05.20.13 @ 20:29pm


Uh oh - Janes' Nothing's Shocking 25th anniversary release date is coming up, too -- in August 2013. Nirvana's Bleach is then in June 2014. Wonder how all this is going to flesh out. Hopefully, not with Sonic Youth getting the snub, but it seems the most likely thing.

Nirvana's first single would be in November 1988, Love Buzz, but then, not too many people heard it until a couple of years later. Cripes, Dave Grohl wasn't in the band until 1990. Is Nirvana really going to be eligible on the next/current ballot?

I would have them wait a year, until 2015 ceremony.

Posted by JDM on Monday, 05.20.13 @ 20:44pm


Better than your favourite band and long overdue.

Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 09.7.13 @ 12:20pm


It be a shame if a band like Radiohead gets inducted before Sonic Youth. KISS proved the whole thing is kind of a farce. The future of this thing will be more about ticket sales and eyeballs for HBO.

Posted by Channing on Sunday, 06.1.14 @ 12:09pm


I can't believe they haven't been inducted yet. Nirvana's in and SY not? What, Thurston Moore should have died at 27 to make it?

Posted by BulmaPunkRocker on Sunday, 07.6.14 @ 22:48pm


Daydream Nation is such a great album. It just leaves you Thurston for Moore.

Posted by Max on Wednesday, 10.19.16 @ 21:53pm


What's worse than Nirvana beating Sonic Youth in to the RRHOF? Frickin' Pearl Jam beating Sonic Youth in. At least Nirvana was a great band. Pearl Jam is warmed over Bad Company riffs for drunken frat boys and Cubs fans to feel "deep".

Posted by David on Friday, 12.23.16 @ 14:39pm


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