It would be an absolute travesty if The Smashing Pumpkins aren't inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Anthony on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 17:22pm

They were one of the best of a generation. They are truly iconic and must be inducted.

Posted by Carlos on Wednesday, 09/25/2013 @ 01:24am

The Smashing Pumpkins are well know as one of the great bands from the 90s and are ranked up there with bands live Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Jane's Addiction, etc.

I would love to see them inducted. Not sure if the band's latest work would affect their nomination, however they were a great band back in the 90s.

Don't get me wrong, I love the newer stuff as well being a ghost child myself. But it really isn't the same caliber as the new stuff that alternative bands like Foo Fighters and Muse are putting out or even the songs they were putting out in the 90s.

Posted by Ryan on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 17:44pm

They don't get in because Billy's not pretty enough and didn't immortalize himself in music lore via a shotgun. 25 years later stuff like Nevermind/In Utero, and especially Ten, just sound boring. I think the Pumpkins hold up better than most 90s bands. So I think they should get in. But critics, predictably, just hold to tepid and flaccid reasons the Pumpkins should not get in. They ripped off MBV (overrated album and I love it), they're not as good as the big 4 (is that your opinion or the opinion of someone you always thought was cooler than you?) etc., etc. It's based on the old turd argument people make based on a perception of what a band was or "May have been". Mother Love Bone is a perfect example here. They could have been the best...if only...yeah yeah.

Now let's get to the attacks because who am I to write that about Cobain?

Posted by Yup on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 21:32pm

I think the Pumpkins hold up better than most 90s bands. So I think they should get in. But critics, predictably, just hold to tepid and flaccid reasons the Pumpkins should not get in. They ripped off MBV (overrated album and I love it), they're not as good as the big 4 (is that your opinion or the opinion of someone you always thought was cooler than you?) etc., etc. It's based on the old turd argument people make based on a perception of what a band was or "May have been". Mother Love Bone is a perfect example here. They could have been the best...if only...yeah yeah.

Now let's get to the attacks because who am I to write that about Cobain?

Posted by Yup on Wednesday, 10.16.13 @ 21:32pm
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Dear Mr. Yup:

I'm not going to really attack you over anything here. I would like to ask one thing, though:

Are you aware that the Pumpkins aren't eligible yet?

It's not as though Nirvana is going to be blocking the Pumpkins getting in, or anything of that nature. The Smashing Pumpkins are not eligible till the 2015 class. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 14:17pm

I think the Pumpkins hold up better than most 90s bands. So I think they should get in. But critics, predictably, just hold to tepid and flaccid reasons the Pumpkins should not get in. They ripped off MBV (overrated album and I love it), they're not as good as the big 4 (is that your opinion or the opinion of someone you always thought was cooler than you?) etc., etc. It's based on the old turd argument people make based on a perception of what a band was or "May have been". Mother Love Bone is a perfect example here. They could have been the best...if only...yeah yeah.

Now let's get to the attacks because who am I to write that about Cobain?

Posted by Yup on Wednesday, 10.16.13 @ 21:32pm
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Dear Mr. Yup:

I'm not going to really attack you over anything here. I would like to ask one thing, though:

Are you aware that the Pumpkins aren't eligible yet?

It's not as though Nirvana is going to be blocking the Pumpkins getting in, or anything of that nature. The Smashing Pumpkins are not eligible till the 2015 class. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/17/2013 @ 14:19pm

Billy Corgan has too much ego remember how he caused his friends and bandmates to leave.

Posted by andrewp on Wednesday, 04/9/2014 @ 17:52pm

Billy Corgan has too much ego remember how he caused his friends and bandmates to leave.

Posted by andrewp on Wednesday, 04/9/2014 @ 17:52pm

Eventually, not now.

Posted by BulmaPunkRocker on Sunday, 07/6/2014 @ 23:57pm

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/12/billy-corgan-criticizes-derivative-pearl-jam-and-foo-fighters-maintains-hes-still-the-best/

Billy Corgan criticizes “derivative” Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters, maintains he’s still the best

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/9/2014 @ 19:34pm

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/232188/billy-corgan-disses-eddie-vedder-compares-himself-to-kurt-cobain/

Billy Corgan disses Eddie Vedder, compares himself to Kurt Cobain

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12/9/2014 @ 19:36pm

Why not? The Hall is still continuing to show that they like alternative and as long as they do that I see an induction for the Pumpkins.

Posted by Karl Singleton on Tuesday, 12/23/2014 @ 12:56pm

Okay, first my favorite Pumpkins albums/releases: 1. The Aeroplane Flies High 2. Adore 3. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 4. Pisces Iscariot (Deluxe) 5. Siamese Dream 6. Gish 7. MACHINA II 8. MACHINA (OK, so ALL the original/deluxe editions from Gish - MACHINA II) 9. Album X (This is a non-existant album I'm making up to put Billy's 8 to 10 GREAT to CLASSIC songs he's written since bringing his amazing/classic music back to life.

Favorite Songs: 1. Rotten Apples 2. Pennies 3. Hope 4. Crush 5. Pug 6. Tear 7. Crawl 8. Raindrops + Sunshowers 9. Dreaming 10. Landslide 11. Soma 12. Spaceboy 13. (Does Corgans work on "Ransom" soundtrack count? Ya know... "Rats," "Spiders," "Worms," etc. 14. Galapogos 15. Lily (My One and Only) 16. This Time 17. Honey Spider 18. Pulseczar 19. STP 20. Meladori Magpie 21. Pschedelic 22. Bleed 23. Gossamer 24. SuperChrist 25. Oceania 26. Drum + Fife 27. Eye 28. Obscured 29. The Ethers Tragic 30. Marquis in Spades (Listen to anything that doesn't sound familiar on youtube, maybe you Corgan-bashers will have second thoughts. Oasis???? Yeah, they're respectful, "Wonderwall" was ok, I guess, but against the Pumpkins?

Posted by MikeyWan on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 20:02pm

...And "Album X" would include: 1. Doomsday Clock 2. Tarantula (Hey I Liked it) 3. SuperChrist 4. Gossamer 5. Song for a Son 6. Oceania 7. The Rose March 8. Sunkissed 9. Tiberius 10. Drum + Fife

Also, don't forget the Children's Hospital's that he donated all proceeds to on an "Adore" tour in 1998. I'm just not getting how this is even an argument, really?

Posted by MikeyWan on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 20:20pm

Saw the Smashing Pumpkins a couple weeks ago in St. Louis. Not too bad of a show, though it should have been called 'Billy Corgan and guests'. The show was 80% acoustic of both their current and past hits, mostly their new ones. Corgan was very cool and upbeat the whole time, like he didn't miss his old band.

I'm betting that they will be on the ballot this year for first year of eligibility, although like the others, I don't think it will be their turn. The Pumpkins have had quite an impressive career up until 2000, as they were an alternative to the grunge rock movement in the early to mid-90s. And I think they were influential. Just listen to Our Lady Peace. I do think if they don't get in right away, expect it to happen within the next few years.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 07/13/2015 @ 22:19pm

Jason, glad you got to see them. I guess seeing them at this point in time is sorta like seeing the Axel version of Guns n Roses ;-)

I want to see them some time myself.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 07/16/2015 @ 07:19am

I dont understand why all these people dont like the new pumpkins. James Iha and Darcy added almost nothing to the band! Unless you are totally shallow. They have NINE albums. EVERY album is a work of considerable genius from a musical standpoint. People talk about the ego of Billy Corgan. just listen to the detail he put into each guitar track that is highlighting notes 7 minutes into a song half way through Oceania - it stuns me how dumb many of the commenters here are. Coldplay and all those bands are DIRECT knockoffs of Billy Corgan. and he wrote half of Holes music. If he had blown his head off in 1995 he would be in for sure, but then we wouldnt have OCeania. Thise commenters on here make me sick. He is not like Axl Rose. Axl Rose has not produced anything in years. corgan has made NINE genius records. And he had to do it with jerks like Iha. Jesus it ticks me off.

Posted by plank on Monday, 08/3/2015 @ 00:48am

Smashing Pumpkins should be nominated before 2020 and inducted in 1st 5 years. Not a big fan of Corgan's voice but he squeezed all the talent out of it. I could listen to 1979 for hours! What a fantastic song! Bullet With Butterfly Wings is just a cruncher from start to finish. Mellon Collie exquisite CD so many excellent songs. My sister borrowed it back in 1996 and it suddenly disappeared. Smashing Pumpkins one of the most innovative group of 90's. I was surprised they didn't receive nomination in 2015 cycle but should be nominated in 2016. Poetic songs and good music. KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 11/17/2015 @ 01:09am

I like the articles here on the Pumpkins being eligible for the Hall. Corgan pats himself on the back a wee bit, but I guess you have to politic for yourself these days, if you want a chance.

The Pumpkins definitely deserve induction, as they helped define their times fairly well. His voice is an acquired taste, clearly. I'll always think they might have been the best band of the decade had he the foresight to simply play guitar, produce the albums, & bring in a better vocalist.

On one hand, a better vocalist would've allowed them to find a cross between the 70's prog & 90's shoegaze the group always espoused. Perhaps something akin to "My Bloody Kansas" would've emerged. Then again, Kansas did bleed pretty hard, back in the 1850's, so as the abolitionists may have said, we're all just dust in the shoegazing wind.

On the other hand, Corgan's vocals forced the band to at least consider a punk framework, which probably put them over at that time (blowhards need not apply in that decade). Sonically they're great (or Ggrreeaatt!!, if you're a Tony the Tiger fan), but I can't help but hear Bono give "Tonight, Tonight" a "Beautiful Day"-styled uplift, or Mark Lanegan give it a Screaming Trees-styled downlift-uplift (maybe along the lines of "Butterfly", or "Julie Paradise"). I also hear Layne Staley putting over something like "Zero", or a Jeff Buckley or Chris Cornell taking "Muzzle" (my favorite Pumpkin track) and giving it an over-the-top reading, as I like to believe it could be done.

Who knows? Maybe that was the trick to the Pumpkins. Corgan's non-vocal "vocals " let him be grandiose w/in an Earthy era.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03/16/2016 @ 06:26am

Good post, Cheesecrop. I do think Corgan's vocals go with several of his songs. Lot of emotion in his voice, IMO.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 03/16/2016 @ 08:08am

For such a significant band, there has been surprisingly little buzz over them being nominated for the RNRHOF this year. Is it because Pearl Jam and NIN will be on the ballot? Are they be behind Soundgarden as well? In the next 5 years I would expect all these bands, as well as Smashing Pumpkins to be inducted.

Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/11/2016 @ 21:44pm

FRL-

Please Add Smashing Pumpkins- Adore (1998) to the list of Essential Albums. It was inducted into the Album Project in the class of 2041 but the band was incorrectly labeled as The Smashing Pumpkins.

Thanks

Posted by Tom H. on Tuesday, 11/7/2017 @ 19:03pm

For God knows what reason, the Pumpkins still aren't in yet. They should've been first years if you ask me.

BUT, they are touring this year with a new album coming out this year as well with the original lineup(excluding D'Arcy, unfortunately). Maybe that will be enough to get them in.

Posted by Sean on Sunday, 02/11/2018 @ 12:41pm

To FRL-

Smashing Pumpkins- Adore (1998) should be added to the Essential Albums as it was inducted into the Album Project under the name The Smashing Pumpkins- Adore (1998).

Posted by Tom H. on Wednesday, 05/23/2018 @ 18:52pm

Tom H

The Smashing Pumpkins belong in the Rock Hall.

Posted by Mark Tesla on Wednesday, 05/23/2018 @ 23:17pm

Mark Tesla-

No arguments from me there. If the Rock Hall voters start letting a few more alternative rock acts (Beck, Soundgarden and Radiohead immediately jump to mind) then Smashing Pumpkins shouldn't be that far behind.

Posted by Tom H. on Wednesday, 05/23/2018 @ 23:30pm

Tom H

Smashing Pumpkins made great music and were commercially successful. Hopefully they'll be recognized soon. Disarm is my favorite song of theirs.

Posted by Mark Tesla on Thursday, 05/24/2018 @ 22:27pm

Yeah!!! They combined the sixties psychedelic with the nineties alternative!!!

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 07/9/2019 @ 17:55pm

How is it even possible that they have not even been considered .... screams conspiracy

Posted by Ryan on Thursday, 07/2/2020 @ 00:01am

They seem like a slam dunk. Surprised they haven't been nominated

Posted by Henry on Tuesday, 08/17/2021 @ 10:09am

I think Gerard Way should induct them.

Posted by Jared on Thursday, 09/23/2021 @ 10:50am

They've never been considered for the hall of fame? They seem like they'd be a first ballot inductee.

Posted by Brandon on Tuesday, 09/28/2021 @ 20:19pm

Brandon,

I pretty much predicted that they would be nominated & inducted by next year since Foo Fighters are the recent band of the 90's to be inducted.

Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 09/28/2021 @ 22:29pm

Probably the biggest 90s snub now.

Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 09/29/2021 @ 02:39am

A band that truly defined - the definition of alternative- the way they are overlooked is proof.
Their sound is truly original, always changing and growing.
If musical excellence is a requirement- these guys deserve it more than 95% of other bands. Honest music, incredible sound, guitar, and jimmy chamberlain is an absolute beast on drums.
Siamese Dream has of the best sounding guitars ever laid to tape.
Mellon collie is a freakin masterpiece.

So many will try but never come close, to the band that defines alternative music.

Posted by Adam on Saturday, 11/27/2021 @ 21:13pm

A band that truly defined - the definition of alternative- the way they are overlooked is proof.
Their sound is truly original, always changing and growing.
If musical excellence is a requirement- these guys deserve it more than 95% of other bands. Honest music, incredible sound, guitar, and jimmy chamberlain is an absolute beast on drums.
Siamese Dream has of the best sounding guitars ever laid to tape.
Mellon collie is a freakin masterpiece.

So many will try but never come close, to the band that defines alternative music.

Posted by Adam on Saturday, 11/27/2021 @ 21:13pm

"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage."

That lyric alone should earn them a spot in the Hall of Fame.

Posted by Idi Amin on Wednesday, 12/15/2021 @ 13:07pm

The Smashing Pumpkins are unlike any other band, and sound different than any of their contemporaries. They could almost be considered for induction into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, Just based on their epic double album: 'Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness', but IMO... their second album 'Siamese Dream', is ABSOLUTELY equally as good, and if not Better than other alternative standout albums, 'Nevermind' or 'Ten'.

And in closing... if 'Pink Floyd' lets you induct them into the Hall, then you should probably end up getting a well-deserved nod, too.

Posted by C. Hunter (Radio P.D.) on Monday, 03/14/2022 @ 18:32pm

I'm guessing Billy Corgan is the reason why the Smashing Pumpkins haven't been nominated yet?

Posted by Garrick on Thursday, 05/12/2022 @ 20:05pm

Come on Hall of Fame selectors. The Smashing Pumpkins are clearly deserving of being elected to your fraternity. I've enjoyed all of their music for 35 years and counting.
Please make the inclusion that is long overdue.

Posted by Michael Atkins on Sunday, 01/15/2023 @ 12:59pm