Rolling Stone's 100 Immortals of Rock & Roll

Back in 2004, Rolling Stone magazine celebrated the 50th birthday of rock & roll by compiling a list of the 50 greatest artists of all-time calling them "The Immortals." A year later, they added 50 more to the list. Here is how they did it:

The Immortals began last year with the creation of a panel of fifty-five top musicians, historians, industry executives and critics, selected by the editors of Rolling Stone. Voters were asked to pick, in order of preference, the twenty artists they deemed to be the most significant and influential of rock's first fifty years, those whose work continues to have an impact today. More than 125 artists were named. The ballots were tabulated according to a weighted point system that was overseen by the international accounting firm Ernst & Young.

Naturally, the list is filled with performers who have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That certainly isn't surprising, but as you might suspect, given the close ties between Rolling Stone and the Rock Hall, there is a fair amount of overlap between the people who developed this list and current and former members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee (Anthony DeCurtis, Bob Hilburn, Lenny Kaye, Jon Landau, Joe Levy, Kurt Loder, Seymour Stein, Jann Wenner, etc.).

So, what can we learn from the list with respect to the Hall of Fame?

Out of the 100 Immortals, 91 are now enshrined in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame1 (as of 2014). And of the 9 who are not in the Rock Hall, only four are currently eliglble: Gram Parsons (nominated in 2002, 2004 and 2005), Roxy Music (they have been seriously considered, but not nominated), N.W.A (nominated in 2013 and 2014) and Lee "Scratch" Perry. The rest aren't eligible for induction yet, but once they are they will be among the favorites to get inducted. Since this list was put together in mid-2004, 35% of Rock Hall inductees have come directly from this Immortals list.

Here is the full list, with the eligibility dates of the non-Hall of Famers. (Yes, we know this list is flawed -- any list like this would be -- but we're just using it to predict future Hall of Famers.) Update: We have added VH1's Top 100 Artists of All-Time for quick comparison between lists. We also added Rolling Stone's 2011 update to the Immortals list, now branded the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time, which added some important artists who were missed in 2004. As of 2014, there are only 7 artists on this new list not in the Rock Hall. In 2013, Rolling Stone's editors selected 14 artists who have made an impact since the 2004 list was created that they dub the "New Immortals."

Rolling Stone's Immortals (2004)
  1. The Beatles
  2. Bob Dylan
  3. Elvis Presley
  4. The Rolling Stones
  5. Chuck Berry
  6. Jimi Hendrix
  7. James Brown
  8. Little Richard
  9. Aretha Franklin
  10. Ray Charles
  11. Bob Marley
  12. The Beach Boys
  13. Buddy Holly
  14. Led Zeppelin
  15. Stevie Wonder
  16. Sam Cooke
  17. Muddy Watters
  18. Marvin Gaye
  19. The Velvet Underground
  20. Bo Diddley
  21. Otis Redding
  22. U2
  23. Bruce Springsteen
  24. Jerry Lee Lewis
  25. Fats Domino
  26. The Ramones
  27. Nirvana
  28. Prince
  29. The Who
  30. The Clash
  31. Johnny Cash
  32. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
  33. The Everly Brothers
  34. Neil Young
  35. Michael Jackson
  36. Madonna
  37. Roy Orbison
  38. John Lennon
  39. David Bowie
  40. Simon and Garfunkel
  41. The Doors
  42. Van Morrison
  43. Sly and the Family Stone
  44. Public Enemy
  45. The Byrds
  46. Janis Joplin
  47. Patti Smith
  48. Run-DMC
  49. Elton John
  50. The Band
  51. Howlin' Wolf
  52. The Allman Brothers Band
  53. Eric Clapton
  54. Dr. Dre (2017)
  55. Grateful Dead
  56. Parliament/Funkadelic
  57. Aerosmith
  58. Sex Pistols
  59. Louis Jordan
  60. Joni Mitchell
  61. Tina Turner
  62. Etta James
  63. Phil Spector
  64. The Kinks
  65. Al Green
  66. Cream
  67. The Temptations
  68. Jackie Wilson
  69. Carl Perkins
  70. The Police
  71. Frank Zappa
  72. AC/DC
  73. Radiohead (2017)
  74. Hank Williams
  75. The Eagles
  76. The Shirelles
  77. Beastie Boys
  78. The Stooges
  79. The Four Tops
  80. Elvis Costello
  81. The Drifters
  82. Eminem (2021)
  83. N.W.A (2012)
  84. James Taylor
  85. Black Sabbath
  86. Tupac Shakur (2016)
  87. Gram Parsons (1992)
  88. Miles Davis
  89. The Yardbirds
  90. Carlos Santana
  91. Ricky Nelson
  92. Guns N' Roses
  93. Booker T. and the MG's
  94. Nine Inch Nails (2014)
  95. Lynyrd Skynyrd
  96. Martha and the Vandellas
  97. Diana Ross and the Supremes
  98. Roxy Music (1995)
  99. Curtis Mayfield
  100. Lee "Scratch" Perry (1994)
1 That 90 Hall of Famers includes a solo Tina Turner (#61), but she's in the RRHoF with Ike Turner.
Rolling Stone's Greatest Artists of All Time (2011)
  1. The Beatles
  2. Bob Dylan
  3. Elvis Presley
  4. The Rolling Stones
  5. Chuck Berry
  6. Jimi Hendrix
  7. James Brown
  8. Little Richard
  9. Aretha Franklin
  10. Ray Charles
  11. Bob Marley
  12. The Beach Boys
  13. Buddy Holly
  14. Led Zeppelin
  15. Stevie Wonder
  16. Sam Cooke
  17. Muddy Watters
  18. Marvin Gaye
  19. The Velvet Underground
  20. Bo Diddley
  21. Otis Redding
  22. U2
  23. Bruce Springsteen
  24. Jerry Lee Lewis
  25. Fats Domino
  26. The Ramones
  27. Prince
  28. The Clash
  29. The Who
  30. Nirvana
  31. Johnny Cash
  32. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
  33. The Everly Brothers
  34. Neil Young
  35. Michael Jackson
  36. Madonna
  37. Roy Orbison
  38. John Lennon
  39. David Bowie
  40. Simon and Garfunkel
  41. The Doors
  42. Van Morrison
  43. Sly and the Family Stone
  44. Public Enemy
  45. The Byrds
  46. Janis Joplin
  47. Patti Smith
  48. Run-DMC
  49. Elton John
  50. The Band
  51. Pink Floyd
  52. Queen
  53. The Allman Brothers Band
  54. Howlin' Wolf
  55. Eric Clapton
  56. Dr. Dre (2017)
  57. Grateful Dead
  58. Parliament/Funkadelic
  59. Aerosmith
  60. Sex Pistols
  61. Metallica
  62. Joni Mitchell
  63. Tina Turner
  64. Phil Spector
  65. The Kinks
  66. Al Green
  67. Cream
  68. The Temptations
  69. Jackie Wilson
  70. The Police
  71. Frank Zappa
  72. AC/DC
  73. Radiohead (2017)
  74. Hank Williams
  75. The Eagles
  76. The Shirelles
  77. Beastie Boys
  78. The Stooges
  79. The Four Tops
  80. Elvis Costello
  81. The Drifters
  82. Creedence Clearwater Revival
  83. Eminem (2021)
  84. James Taylor
  85. Black Sabbath
  86. Tupac Shakur (2016)
  87. Gram Parsons (1992)
  88. Jay-Z (2020)
  89. The Yardbirds
  90. Carlos Santana
  91. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
  92. Guns N' Roses
  93. Booker T. and the MG's
  94. Nine Inch Nails (2014)
  95. Lynyrd Skynyrd
  96. Diana Ross and the Supremes
  97. R.E.M.
  98. Curtis Mayfield
  99. Carl Perkins
  100. Talking Heads


Rolling Stone's New Immortals (2013)


VH1's Top 100 Artists (1998)
  1. The Beatles
  2. The Rolling Stones
  3. Jimi Hendrix
  4. Led Zeppelin
  5. Bob Dylan
  6. James Brown
  7. David Bowie
  8. Elvis Presley
  9. The Who
  10. The Police *
  11. Stevie Wonder
  12. Ray Charles
  13. The Beach Boys
  14. Marvin Gaye
  15. Eric Clapton *
  16. John Lennon
  17. Elton John
  18. Prince *
  19. Pink Floyd
  20. The Doors
  21. Aretha Franklin
  22. Fleetwood Mac
  23. The Eagles
  24. Bob Marley
  25. Van Morrison
  26. Chuck Berry
  27. Bruce Springsteen *
  28. Sly & the Family Stone
  29. U2 *
  30. Neil Young
  31. The Clash *
  32. Joni Mitchell
  33. Queen *
  34. Buddy Holly
  35. Otis Redding
  36. Little Richard
  37. Al Green
  38. Elvis Costello *
  39. Miles Davis *
  40. Michael Jackson *
  41. Janis Joplin
  42. Nirvana *
  43. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers *
  44. The Jackson Five
  45. Crosby, Stills & Nash
  46. The Sex Pistols *
  47. Creedence Clearwater Revival
  48. Van Halen *
  49. Roy Orbison
  50. R.E.M. *
  51. B.B. King
  52. Cream
  53. Peter Gabriel *
  54. The Grateful Dead
  55. The Byrds
  56. The Kinks
  57. Steely Dan *
  58. Sam Cooke
  59. Bo Diddley
  60. Earth, Wind & Fire *
  61. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
  62. Paul McCartney *
  63. Sting ##
  64. Frank Zappa
  65. James Taylor *
  66. Talking Heads *
  67. Kiss *
  68. The Allman Brothers
  69. Pretenders *
  70. Stevie Ray Vaughan #
  71. Rod Stewart
  72. Simon & Garfunkel
  73. Muddy Waters
  74. The Velvet Underground
  75. Curtis Mayfield
  76. The Bee Gees
  77. John Coltrane #
  78. Billy Joel *
  79. Aerosmith *
  80. Tina Turner ##
  81. The Band
  82. Devo #
  83. Iggy Pop ##
  84. T. Rex #
  85. Carole King ##
  86. Madonna *
  87. Santana
  88. Ramones *
  89. Johnny Cash
  90. Tom Waits */li>
  91. Gladys Knight & the Pips
  92. The Temptations
  93. The Four Tops
  94. Diana Ross & the Supremes
  95. Robert Johnson
  96. Lynyrd Skynyrd *
  97. Fats Domino
  98. Traffic
  99. Parliament/Funkadelic
  100. Paul Simon *

* Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after 1998
# Still not a Hall of Famer
## A Hall of Famer, but not as a solo performer

VH1's Top 100 Artists (2010)
  1. The Beatles
  2. Michael Jackson
  3. Led Zeppelin
  4. The Rolling Stones
  5. Bob Dylan
  6. Jimi Hendrix
  7. Prince
  8. Elvis Presley
  9. James Brown
  10. Stevie Wonder
  11. Bob Marley
  12. David Bowie
  13. The Who
  14. Nirvana
  15. The Beach Boys
  16. Madonna
  17. Queen
  18. Pink Floyd
  19. U2
  20. Marvin Gaye
  21. Bruce Springsteen
  22. The Clash
  23. AC/DC
  24. The Velvet Underground
  25. Chuck Berry
  26. Neil Young
  27. Aretha Franklin
  28. Elton John
  29. Radiohead #
  30. Aerosmith
  31. John Lennon
  32. Black Sabbath
  33. Guns N' Roses
  34. Tina Turner ##
  35. Johnny Cash
  36. Paul McCartney
  37. Fleetwood Mac
  38. Sly & The Family Stone
  39. The Kinks
  40. The Police
  41. Van Halen
  42. Metallica
  43. Ray Charles
  44. Joni Mitchell
  45. Al Green
  46. Ramones
  47. Jay-Z #
  48. Rage Against The Machine #
  49. Parliament-Funkadelic
  50. Sade #
  51. Billy Joel
  52. Beyonce #
  53. Little Richard
  54. Public Enemy
  55. Peter Gabriel
  56. KISS
  57. Iggy & The Stooges
  58. Cheap Trick
  59. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
  60. Whitney Houston
  61. Cream
  62. Genesis
  63. Notorious B.I.G. #
  64. Talking Heads
  65. The Doors
  66. Justin Timberlake #
  67. Coldplay #
  68. Otis Redding
  69. Tupac Shakur #
  70. Def Leppard
  71. R.E.M.
  72. Janis Joplin
  73. Van Morrison
  74. The Cure
  75. Rush
  76. Run-D.M.C.
  77. Lynyrd Skynyrd
  78. Judas Priest
  79. Eminem
  80. Mary J. Blige #
  81. ABBA
  82. Steely Dan
  83. Earth, Wind and Fire
  84. Curtis Mayfield
  85. The Band
  86. N.W.A #
  87. George Michael #
  88. Bee Gees
  89. Beastie Boys
  90. Elvis Costello
  91. Green Day #
  92. LL Cool J
  93. Pearl Jam #
  94. Mariah Carey #
  95. OutKast #
  96. Journey
  97. Pretenders
  98. Depeche Mode
  99. Hall & Oates
  100. Alicia Keys #

# Not yet eligible for the Rock Hall because of the 25 year rule
## A Hall of Famer, but not as a solo performer

Comments

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Leave it to Rolling Stone to come up with another "list", and because they did it, it must be right (not). As far as being "immortals", some of these are no-brainers. Some (like Nirvana), well let's just say I would be interested in knowing if people will still be talking about them 25 years from now. They have Dr. Dre listed over HANK WILLIAMS, who pretty much invented the word "legendary" for country music. They even have Eminem on this list...spare me!!!

We're talking "immortals" here! Do these idiots even know what that word means? Forever is a long time, and I don't think there are a total of 100 modern artists who can be deemed "immortal"!!! I'm surprised "Jann The Man" didn't put his name on this, too!!!

Sorry, Steve Perry wasn't on the list.

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 07.18.08 @ 20:58pm


Nirvana and Prince 12 spots higher than The Doors??

Out of 159 total performer inductees-35 or 22% have been voted in following their 1st year of eligibility. (Rock & Roll royalty)

Yet not on this list of "Immortals" are 6 out of those very 35 Hall Of Famers inducted in their 1st year of eligibility:

REM, The Pretenders, Talking Heads, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Sam & Dave.

??????

Posted by classicrocker on Friday, 07.18.08 @ 23:35pm


A few things here: First, this list was created in 2004-2005, when Eminem still had a career going (I've heard rumor of a new album, but...). Not quite sure how a lot of people view him now.

Second - Nirvana. Since the first publication of the list, there was a box-set released in 2005("With The Lights Out") + a film was made that year by G. Van Sant. "Last Days" I believe it was called. It was a fictional job. In 2006 an additional "Best of the Box" (whatever that's really supposed to mean) was released, and in 2007 the documentary film "About a Boy" came out. The man's profile actually expanded in these intervening years, so if anything the notion that they have somehow been forgotten is ridiculous. We're at the 20 year point for Nirvana, and they're still present w/in the culture. You could even argue that 27th is actually far too low!

If you were going to do a revision to this list for now, Radiohead & NIN would have to shoot up several places, due to the effects of their Internet ventures w/ the latest albums. In terms of the old I & I, I'd personally have NIN up at 85-87, and Radiohead at maybe 63-66.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 04:55am


Cheesecrop...I guess the one thing that really bugs me about it is the word "immortal"...seems to get punched out there as much as the word "diva", which no longer has a reverant meaning nowadays. Labeling someone "immortal" is a very strong statement. There are artists on that list who will still be discussed 100 years from now, and some who will probably fall by the wayside soon, as you stated is already happening a bit.

Heck, who knows if Rolling Stone magazine will still be around or discussed in 100 years...something to think about!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 05:11am


Holy shit was that list predictable.

Posted by Liam on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 05:44am


Cheesecrop...It's okay to agree to disagree about Nirvana. It kind of gets back to that argument of them being "the big new thing" to some, and others thinking "I've heard this before"...they just weren't very relevent to me (or most of my musician friends, for that matter) compared to what I've witnessed or heard previously in my life. Do I think people will be talking about them in 100 years? Not a chance! Will people beg to differ? Absolutely...and that's okay. As to who is actually right, only time will tell...

Like I stated before, "immortal" is a pretty powerful word.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 07:41am


To tell you the truth, I'm not sure anyone on that list will be relevant in a hundred years! If it's still around, rock will be going on it's 9th or 10th generation roughly. They may look back and laugh at how we sought to presume that our hideously outdated 20th century artists would last forever, and then had the gall to even debate it! I do agree w/you that "immortal" is a cliche'd term, though.

By and large I think they got some of the people right, but like everyone out there I know I'd remove a few and make some changes, even in the top 20. The problem here is that despite the still functioning careers of some of these artists, the list as RS would see it is probably not fluid. That's the real issue here, to get as amny people as possible across the board to start thinking fluidly, and w/out the rigidity that has affected a lot of folk.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 14:46pm


You know, I checked my writing and could swear I didn't misspell a thing, yet I now notice that somehow the word "many" is messed up. Is this some sort of plot to make me look foolish here?

For the record, I have perfected the art of sounding like an idiot on my own time. I don't need any help, thenk you.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 14:50pm


Gitarzan, The Doors aren't as important as you think. Most people listen to them all the time for a few months and then forget about them entirely. Way too much cheese.

I can't believe R.E.M. didn't make the list. Had RS asked more indie artists to participate in this polling, they'd have easily been Top 40. Also, CCR has a claim to being the greatest American rock act yet is absent. Hmm....

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 15:47pm


Casper...didn't say anything about The Doors, dude!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 16:14pm


Ah, I was responding to classicrocker. My bad.

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 19:32pm


Casper, when Oliver Stone does a movie about you you're important! The only bands from the 60's that are played on mainstream rock radio where I live besides the Doors are the Stones, The Kinks and Jimi Hendrix, The Doors are actually played more than the Beatles on the one station that plays old and new muusic. The Doors and the Whisky a Go Go scene were WAY more crucical to the development of rock than Nirvana and the Seattle grunge scene in the late 80's. I think if Nirvana had been around at the same time as The Doors in the late 60's Nirvana might have been pretty big on a regional basis like in the Pacific Northwest, and even if they did make it nationally by now would be pretty much forgotten.

Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 20:35pm


"The Doors and the Whisky a Go Go scene were WAY more crucial to the development of rock than Nirvana and the Seattle Grunge scene..."

True, they were impt. to the "development" of rock. Could you not say that Nirvana wasn't impt. to the perpetuation of rock - this being another thing I remember from the criteria.

The more I read the comments the more it becomes apparent how badly they did misjudge Nirvana. In a way you've addressed the issue for me when you mentioned how the Doors are played more than the Beatles. You're right about that. Think about it though... who helped get rid of those bands and alter the radio into the format we know today? The alternative brigade not only nudged 80's metal off the page, they also dispensed of the Allmans/REO SPeedwagon/J. Starship/Moody Blues, and a host of others who had worn out their welcome on rock radio. You are quite right when you say the Doors are still influential, because they are. They deserve to probably rate a few spots higher(I might move them up from 41 to around 36-38). I realize now though, from reading these posts, just how off the mark they are on Nirvana.

Nirvana at 27 - up to at least 15-20 - DEFINITIVE!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 04:53am


(Anthony DeCurtis, Bob Hilburn, Lenny Kaye, Jon Landau, Joe Levy, Kurt Loder, Seymour Stein, Jann Wenner, etc.). [The committee]

No wonder this Hall is a half a joke. What a dumbass list.

Yardbirds - 88. I think that is a little too low on the list.

Question for backers of Nirvana. I am in no way going to try and diminish their importance, but they were neither the first or the best that came out of the Seattle scene. They were the first to have a song go into heavy rotation on MTV. Perhaps if AIC got a song into heavy rotation on MTV first, it would be them who would be on this list. IMO, they were the better band. Anyway, just wondering.

As for the Doors issue, I never thought them to be as special as all the DJ's and writers thought they were. Who was the writer that called them noting but drunks? Lester Bangs? As for their music which is still played on the classic rock radio stations - it is the same f'n 5 songs.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 09:44am


Cheesecrop...The thing about the "grunge" era, from my point of view anyway, is that I can see where it perpetuated things on the music scene. The "hair metal" scene was getting a little redundant, and rock music needed a breath of fresh air. At that particular time I had resorted to listening more to "classics" and left the popular stuff alone. If you look back at that time, "classic rock" stations started popping up all over the place and became very popular. I guess as far as rock goes, you could've gone one way or the other. Being a "guitar man", I actually liked Pearl Jam and Soundgarden (I really liked Kim Thayil) a little better...I learned to play "Smells Like Team Spirit" after hearing it once...not much of a challenge. On the video box set "History Of Rock & Roll", Johnny Rotten said of Kurt Cobain "If you don't want to be a rock star, simply quit being one". I think it stinks if you have everything going for you in the world and have brought a new baby into it then you decide to commit suicide. IMO, that's a total cop-out, so my lasting memory of him isn't exactly favorable. If things are bothering you that bad, go get some help...or do what Johnny Rotten said.

Please remember, my young and impressionable years were post-50's Elvis (which to me was the only Elvis that mattered), The Beatles and subsequent British invasion, the psychedelic era, the perpetuation into Sgt. Peppers, Dark Side Of The Moon, Hendrix, etc...straight into the disco era (where a lot of R&B groups were making some pretty good music...not everything you heard in clubs was popular on the radio...go figure) and punk, which was kind of where I heard the likes of Nirvana before. Then came New Wave...that brings me up to my upper 20's. I don't know if we will see that sort of perpetuation in music again. It seemed to happen year after year for 20 years.

I'm not saying Nirvana is bad, to me they were just nothing really new or special. Back then I listened to everything, trying to establish my own playing style (still trying, by the way...lol), so I'd like to think there wasn't a lot that got past me. They kind of ran parallels with Garth Brooks, who was essentially doing the same thing pretty much at the same time in country when it was getting a little stale. Listing Nirvana in a group of "immortals"...maybe in Rolling Stone's book, but too much happened before that.

You're definitely right about 100 years from now...people then might listen to this music we love and think WE were the cavemen!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 09:50am


I do like the conversation that this "list" has created. To me, this is a really GOOD way to discuss Rock music...with experience and rationale. The thoughts concerning this have all been good...really diverse! No "such a beautiful voice" or "they're so dreamy"!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 10:25am


Allow me to re-phrase a previous statement...Elvis from the 50's...IMO..was the only Elvis that mattered (his material after his stint in the army until he died was, for the most part, not so good).

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 10:44am


I think just about everyone on that list who hasn't been inducted yet, eventually will be. The only exceptions I can imagine is Lee Scratch Perry and N.W.A./Dr. Dre (I don't think Dre will get in twice).

R.E.M.'s absence is unfortunate, but their career was at its low point in 2004 when this list was made. They unquestionably deserve a spot.

Eminem is the "youngest" on the list. Is there anyone else who has come along since 1996 who should be on there? It's a risky proposition, but I'll offer up LCD Soundsystem/James Murphy for consideration.

Posted by mel on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 12:59pm


I'm surprised Curtis Mayfield made the list. I'd have thought the Impressions would have made the list before solo Mayfield. Of course there are a few other surprises on the list. All I can say though, is that I'm glad Martha & the Vandellas placed higher than the Supremes.

I gotta admit though, the omission of Queen is a little surprising. I think they could have been on the list just as easily as some of the others that did make the list.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 22:53pm


The omission of Queen renders the whole list useless.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 02:51am


Amazingly enough, I think RS did get the better portion of the top 20 correct. I might yank two or three out of the top 20 & replace them, and I know I might alter the rankings a bit.

Hip-Hop: If your using this to predict who's heading for the Hall, the artists should have more than a passing touch of rock in their work. Most of this list doesn't. Run D.M.C.(yes)/Beasties(yes)/P. Enemy(perhaps) - Eminem/Dre/Tupac - NO. In a hip-hop hall it would fly, but not here.

I've already mentioned Nirvana enough. Beyond them, the act I feel is most criminally underappreciated is the Byrds. Some acts can't even muster the ability to define & influence 1 kind of music, but these guys had a heavy influence on 2 - folk rock & country rock. You'd have to juggle the list a bit, but they deserve at least a 10 spot jump (45-35) - perhaps more.

As for moderns: they already made a mistake when they put NIN on the list in 05. Luckily, Reznor & co. saved the list some grief w/ the Year Zero/Ghosts I-IV double whammy. Perhaps - PERHAPS - Pearl Jam (80-100). Too hard to define "immortal" over just the last 5-10 yrs. though.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 05:17am


Dameon, where you would you slot Queen? Pink Floyd is another huge omission -- they should be around 50-60.

Cheesecrop, whether you like it or not, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has chosen to include hip hop under the "rock & roll" umbrella. The rappers they listed are among the best, so they deserve induction.

And how is NIN a mistake? Trent has had a tremendous career. And I tend to agree with you on Pearl Jam.

Posted by mel on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 07:04am


mel...even though it's purely subjective, we're talking about names that will live forever,the modern day classical musicians. I'm of a mind to think that there's not 100 out there. Heck, I don't know if there are 20.

Forever is a very long time. It makes you wonder how people like Mozart, etc...have stood the test of time. They didn't record anything themselves, weren't on TV, etc... The only thing that survived is their music. Pretty amazing...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 07:27am


Gitarzan, if you're going to take the term Immortal literally, then of course it will be a short list -- it will have zero names. We're just talking about the 100 greatest artists of the last 50 years.

Posted by mel on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 07:48am


Simply put - Queen should be in the top 15. My personal opinion is top 10. You could not ask more from a band. They were never afraid to try something new (good or bad); they never got stale even though they lost some momentum here in the states. I still don't know of an album that can touch Queen II. They dominated the charts at a time when they were competing against the likes of Led Zep, The Who, Aerosmith, The Stones, Pink Floyd and other bands that might be considered "immortal". There live show was freakin' amazing. I first saw them when they opened for Mott The Hoople at the Uris Theatre. No front man, not Plant, Jagger, Davies, Daltrey, etc. could hold an audience in the palm of his hands like Freddie Mercury. Hands over fist, IMO, the greatest front man in the history of RnR. Brian May is one of the most unheralded guitarist ever and Deacon and Taylor were just amazing. IMO, The song "Stone Cold Crazy" is what turned Lemmy, Metallica and Megadeath into speed demons. And as campy as Bohemian Rhapsody may seem to us now, there wasn't a person between 14-21 in the 70's that didn't go ape-shit when that song came on the radio. The promo video for Bohemian Rhapsody was a major influence on what was to become MTV. Can you imagine how Queen would have ruled if MTV came out in 1971 instead of 1981. And here is the best part - I dare anyone to attach a genre to them. What were they; Glam, Metal, Hard Rock, Pop, Top 40, Jazz Rock, Prog Rock.? Musically, they could cross genres without skipping a beat. Another One Bites The Dust (not one of my favorites) crossed into the dance scene without ever sounding like a sell-out song, (unlike Rod Stewart's Do You Think I Am Sexy). I can go on and on about Queen. Simply put, they were a band of 4 different songwriters and personalities that blended together to give us something amazing. Sorry, I didn't mean to rant.

I think lists are stupid and this list by Rolling Stone is as stupid as it gets. That list has nothing to do with musical immortals, it has to do with selling magazines. And yes, Pink Floyd not being on the list is ridiculous as is the omission of Alice Cooper. But maybe Rolling Stone can continue to preach objectivity.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 07:53am


I'm not willing to make Rolling Stone the scapegoat here. The voters are pretty diverse, including a lot of artists. And the voting was tallied by Ernst & Young, so it is likely a legit reflection of the voters will (unlike the Rock Hall vote LOL). And each person was only asked to pick 20 artists. That seems like that would leave it open to the possibility that there were a lot of #25's that simply never made it to anyone's list.

Posted by mel on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 08:11am


The bigger question is; what is the purpose of these lists?

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 08:57am


The purpose? History, education, selling magazines, food for debate.

Seriously, I bet lists like these make younger people want to find out more about these bands. That's a good thing.

Posted by mel on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 09:04am


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Posted by flow1800 on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 10:35am


Where the heck is Pink Floyd??? They need to be on this list. Shame on RS!

Posted by toby on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 11:20am


Mel

As much as I would like to believe that, I have a feeling it only holds true for a small percentage of the younger listening audience. Kids who are really turned onto more than just their generation's music will look to explore on their own. They won't need some list as a springboard.

And in my opinion, this Immortals list is so far off that all it does is give a somewhat distorted view.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 11:40am


"Artists" like John Mayer and that prick from Coldplay.

Posted by Liam on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 12:43pm


Gitarzan brought up an interesting point in relation to what is considered "immortal" when he mentioned Mozart. Truth be told, when you look at it, the classical composers of the past do resemble a certain area of rock, namely the indie scene. In some ways Brahms/Beethoven/Mozart, etc. are the equivalent of an act like the Velvet Underground, only their particular patron isn't Andy Warhol but rather the royal courts of Europe.

Mel - I flubbed when I mentioned NIN as not being worthy. What I was trying to say was that in 05 I did not believe they were top 100. The innovative use of the internet to promote "Year Zero" artistically + the sales end for "Ghosts I-IV" more than put them into the top 100.

Queen and P. Floyd - Yes to both. I didn't even realize Floyd had been left off the list. I'm not a major fan, but I definitely see where they should have been slotted in somewhere.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 18:50pm


Ok, here's one good one that has not been elected yet. RUSH!!!! I mean come on, Madonna was elected before Rush. Yeah...... right! Someone give me a good reason why Rush isnt in there!

Posted by Bobobrowns on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 19:26pm


Cheesecrop...that's a very good analogy! I was thinking about as time goes by, certain artists' contributions are lessened for some reason, even if it's just because people simply forget. Look at the 50's version of Elvis, for instance. People nowadays think of the white jumpsuit and having one concert be the mirror image of the next, etc..., but his contribution to Rock music was enormous in the 50's. A lot of legendary performers would've never been heard on mainstream radio if he hadn't bridged that gap. It wasn't that the songs were masterpieces, but essentially where they came from...anywhere from obscure country to R&B. He took the brunt of the criticism from the public and kept shoving it back in their faces, on national television to boot. Bono from U2 called his performance on The Milton Berle Show "The big bang of rock & roll". If you ever get a chance to watch it (youtube has it), you'll see one of the most defining moments in rock history...for 1956 it was unheard of!!

Music is a very powerful tool for cultural change, and those were events that constituted a major cultural overhaul to a degree that probably had never been witnessed before, and very few since. This is why I don't like the word "immortal" used so flippantly. These kinds of "explosions" just don't happen very often, and some people try to discredit those times like they never happened.

Of course, some people don't think that man went to the moon either...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 20:14pm


One thing about Rap/Hip-Hop...whether you like it or hate it (doesn't seem to be a middle ground here), it did change things. This list doesn't mention people who were the true pioneers of that genre, though. I think N.W.A. were about the first to bring "shock" value into it. Eminem as has a fair amount of success, but to suggest that he's one of the "immortals" is truly absurd, considering some of the names on that list. I like a little of it, and I really prefer the stuff that's truly original. I'm not so much into the anger part of it, though. There are more positive ways of getting a point across...

This is just one man's opinion...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 07.22.08 @ 11:46am


Cheesecrop...you're not the only one who needs to proofread occasionally. "as has"??? Oh, brother!! I meant "has had". Understand, I type 100 words...a day!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 07.22.08 @ 11:49am


THE MIRACLES (as a GROUP) should have been inducted BEFORE at least 3/4th of the artists on this list. There have been many successful inducted artists in music history , but VERY FEW who can lay claim to being THE VANGUARD ACT OF AN ENTIRELY NEW MUSICAL GENRE !!! THE MIRACLES WERE THE GROUP THAT INTRODUCED THE WORLD TO THE "MOTOWN SOUND", long before THE SUPREMES, THE TEMPTATIONS, AND THE FOUR TOPS were even HEARD of !!! So, WHY are those artists inducted , while THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ? You want "influence" ? Go to Wikipedia,look up "THE MIRACLES" particularly the "cover versions" section , and just SEE just how many artists have covered their songs....from ALL different music genres.... They're probably the most influential non- inducted group EVER !!!,and , they WROTE OVER 90% OF THEIR OWN MATERIAL. (All of them, not just Smokey).I guarantee that few of the inducted "IMMORTALS" even come CLOSE !!! THE MIRACLES will be be recieving their long-overdue STAR on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN EARLY 2009...Maybe this will FINALLY cause the RRHOF to PAY ATTENTION.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 00:03am


k, Eminem deserves to be on the list. He's probably the best RAPPER ever, that's not saying he's talented musically. But to rap, you have to rhyme well, and he does very cleverly. That being said, how is Queen not on the list, and Dr. Dre is? Cmon. Dr. Dre is the most worthless guest rapper of all time. And, Led Zeppelin is too low. They should be higher than 14. Way higher than 14. They should be like, 5. Rolling Stone magazine needs to stop making these stupid lists. No one gives a damn what Rolling Stone says anyways, because they keep fence hopping. Isn't Rolling Stone the magazine that gave the album "Led Zeppelin" a 2 star when it came out, and then it was ranked above some 5 star ones, on there "500 greatest albums ever made"?

Posted by Calzone on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 13:59pm


Good rapper? Yes. Best ever? Christ no. Get some Eric B. and Rakim or some Public Enemy or some Dizzee Rascal or something.

Rolling Stone mag are a hypocritical bunch of pr*cks, and sellout whores as well. I'm honestly surprised anyone is still listening to them. You don't think it was Nirvana's well-masked artistic brilliance that got Nevermind's rating go from its initial three-star rating changed to five-star, do you? (But to their credit, three stars is probably the right grade for that boring piece of pap.)

Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 14:17pm


Liam, Liam... you're at it again. Quit trying to make everybody go Brit.

I've got to laugh about how the U.K. has tried to hijack rock from America. Recently I watched portions of a show called "Seven Ages of Rock". I say portions because I have had to get into it slowly to keep myself from laughing. The show opened in the mid-60's, and they couldn't do enough to hide 1950's America from the proceedings. They attempted to hide Elvis/Little Richard/Berry/Jerry Lee, and all the rest while pretending that they invented rock. Oh, I forgot, ROCK is different from rock & roll (LOL!!!). One of the biggest cons ever perpetrated.

I willingly admit that I do not agree w/ everything RS tosses in, and like many who see this list, they want to change it. What gets me is that you haven't even offered any vision of your own list. Instead I watch you attack Nirvana (& on another post, the Chili Peppers). Most likely it's because you inherently lack the ability to connect w/ rock in any real way, and like that show you feel the need to try to rewrite the past to suit it for yourself. All you're answers are perfectly crafted, as though we were reading an indie rock book instead of listening to a real person. I'm not going to say "get a life" or some such drivel. What I will say is this: Become a person and les of a fact machine, will you. Put some of your actual personality into this, and stop being fact-spouting Wonder Machine of Rock.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 15:28pm


whoa now, mel. an honest to goodness immortal list would not have zero names. it might have like, 10, but that's it. The Beatles are definatley for shiz immortal. No one will ever, nor could ever, forget about them. Same with Zeppelin, Stones, The Who, Elvis, people like that. And, to the having no queen or pink floyd, calm down silly fan boys. Queen and Pink Floyd will be remembered for a considerable amount of time, regardless of what these so called "Music Critics" have to say about it. NO one should listen to this magazine anyway, because they don't know shit. That's it.

Posted by Calzone on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 15:54pm


"Instead I watch you attack Nirvana (& on another post, the Chili Peppers). Most likely it's because you inherently lack the ability to connect w/ rock in any real way, and like that show you feel the need to try to rewrite the past to suit it for yourself."

Yeah, because aside from the hundreds of rock albums I do like, I mostly hate rock. The reason I detest Nirvana and the Red Hot Chili Peppers is because they have always struck me as deeply mediocre bands; Nirvana's *legacy* relying more on their being the final (yes, final) push for alternative rock to be accepted mainstream, and RHCP basically using their instrumental prowess as a distraction for their clearly sub-par song-writing capabilities. And yes, that's my opinion; feel free to argue against it.

Yes, I was wrong about RS giving it a five star review, but I was only getting it mixed up with an other album. However, I was right in that RS has contradicted its original opinion of the album by placing it at #17 in their terrible Greatest Albums list, quite evidently to do with its commercial success.

You tell me to become "les [sic] of a fact machine" when almost all my last comment was devoted to my opinion. Funny, that.

Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 16:00pm


If you hate rock music, Liam, then what the hell are you doing here? I do agree with you about RS magazine, but Nirvana deserves better treatment then they are getting for you. And about the RHCP, this isn't country music, dude, The lyrics don't need to be "inspirational and good". It's all about the music here man. And the Red Hot Chili Peppers deliver, so go complain the the "Future Homosexual Hall .com" At least you might get someone who agree with you. Cause here, we all love music.

Posted by Calzone on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 16:23pm


Does sarcasm not work with you or something?

I love music too, and I hate the RHCP. Do you know how opinions work?

Go and get Gang of Four's first few records. You'll be surprised at how shitty RHCP start sounding when you listen to them.

Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 16:30pm


Dude, i like the Gang of Four. I like the CHili Peppers too though. Go play some Blood Sugar Sex Magik, that whole album is great. I have to admit, everything after Californication kinda sucked, but before this crappy new stuff, the chili peppers were good. And, if you want to respect Nirvana, buy "Unplugged in New York" Because that album proves that they are more than just some crappy grunge band from Seattle, that proved that they were musicians, and could sound great live, without amps and crap.

Posted by Calzone on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 16:38pm


I'v bought and listened to both. They're both average, in my eyes.

Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 07.23.08 @ 17:35pm


Leon Russell? Nicky Hopkins? How soon they forget....King Crimson.

Posted by bluepno on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 07:34am


"so go complain the the "Future Homosexual Hall .com" At least you might get someone who agree with you."

LOL!! Sooo funny!!!!

Posted by Bebe on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 09:23am


Time for a break in music:

Yanks - Red Sox

3 game series in Fenway. Sweet!!!!

go Yanks!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 10:15am


I'm still having trouble justifying Roxy Music. If someone knows, please explain. Thanks!

Posted by Joe on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 16:01pm


I'm having trouble with loads, especially Gn'R.

Posted by Liam on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 17:09pm


It does bring up an interesting point--what of the now-current music will be played hundreds of years from now, as Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms, Tsichiavkosky, et. al. are played now? Some classical music is very popular now; while some is all but forgotten.

WIth that, I could see a case for the Beatles, Bob Dylan, perhaps the Eagles, and a few others. But Guns n' Roses? Eminem? If anything, it is much too early to tell how their music will affect MODERN music history, much less how it will be in the year 2208.

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 08:21am


I'm still having trouble justifying Roxy Music. If someone knows, please explain. Thanks! (joe)

It might have to do with the fact that performers across the board including David Bowie cite Bryan Ferry and company as a major influence.

Personally, I think they were a great band that could not be pigeon-holed by any specific genre.

Posted by Dameon on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 08:26am


None of this stuff is going to be remembered in 2208. I brought it up earlier that the kids down the line might laugh at what we thought was great. The proof can be found in listening to 50's rock as compared to today. The connections are almost all gone, and in another couple years I'm willing to bet the connections to the 60's will have faded badly as well. Anybody turning sweet sixteen in 2020 will have been born the year this "immortal" list came out.

This list is RS's "state of rock as we think it is" for that moment of time. The top 20 is all 50's/60's, w/2 concessions to the 70's. The 1st 80's act is at 22, 1st 90's is at 27. The interesing parts are what lay outside the top 30. RS is fighting a rear guard action against encroaching youth, w/ the majority of the top 75 being 50's-70's. The 50's-70's acts who show up between #50 & #75 represent the desperate attempt to plug up a dam w/ a finger. What happens when the kids of today start feeling nostalgic in 2020 for MCR/Fall Out Boy, etc.? By that point will this list have been revised to move some 80's & 90's folks up the ladder? There are a lot of kids out there today, and nostalgic feelings will still be the same in 2020 as they are today. Will the kids of today sweep away everything in 2020, while the kids of that moment cry that their own bands are not heard?

You will perhaps reecall in the film "Interview w/ the Vampire" it is noted that the vampires stay trapped in their own mental time frame while the world keeps moving forward. The only way to stay alert is to stay aboveground in essence. This list, outside the top 30, is the mental fortification/complaint list of a vampire at the moment it has begun to really drift out of touch w/ the passing universe.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 09:45am


Cheesecrop said: "What happens when the kids of today start feeling nostalgic in 2020 for MCR/Fall Out Boy, etc.? By that point will this list have been revised to move some 80's & 90's folks up the ladder? There are a lot of kids out there today, and nostalgic feelings will still be the same in 2020 as they are today. Will the kids of today sweep away everything in 2020, while the kids of that moment cry that their own bands are not heard?"

I think the point of the list isn't neccessarily to cater to whatever the "youth" of the day happens to think is relevant. It's to highlight the artists that have the most signifigance for ALL time not just the PRESENT time. If they do what you're suggesting then that would be Casey Kasemizing the list to make it like a longer term version of Billboard's Hot 100 with newer stuff higher up and older stuff that peaked in popularity falling down and off. That would do a disservice to the intended purpose of the list which is to show the artists who've made the most impact over time-not just in perpetuating but developing rock as well.

Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 11:18am


Didn't notice that the Floyd wasn't on the list...perhaps the rumors of RS's prog bias aren't unfounded?

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 16:42pm


The last thing I wish to do is "Casey Kasemize" a list in any manner. Rock & Roll itself has, and will always have, a built-in Kasem complex to itself. If you wish to use the classical music frame of reference, anything considered immortal would, by some implication, have to be finished. Rock is far from finished. Let me use a different example. I have an old videotape from 99 that featured the 100 top baseball players according to the Sporting News. At the time they had Barry Bonds listed at 37, I believe, and the commentary(pre-steroid accusation) noted that when he was finished his career he'd probably be in the top 10. The list in question is meant to rank him for the century, yet it acknowledges his mobility, due to his career not being over. Later on, Bob Costas (host) notes that the list is fluid, and that the names could change, but that he couldn't picture anyone but Babe Ruth at the top. Think about the contradictions in listing the top 100 players of the 20th century, yet acknowledging the list could change throughout the 21st. I'm saying the same thing is possible here.

Let me ask this: since you post under "classicrocker", and I do believe the list is fluid, what do you think of Dylan's chances of surpassing the Beatles? Would there ever be a time he surpassed them? After all, this list was put together before his album "Modern Times" came out. I know I've argued about Nirvana/NIN/Radiohead, but they aren't the only ones still active here. Is Dylan's last album enough to put him over the top? How bout' the Stones? Has U2 or Springsteen ade the top 20, in your mind (or anyone's out there, for that matter)?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:12pm


It's a horrendous list; it really is the more I look at it.

Bob Marley #11???!!!!! Most of what he did wasn't really rock in the traditional sense. Stevie Wonder has no business in the top 30. Neither does Sam Cooke or Ray Charles. Velvet Underground should be up to around 12 and The Who should be at least 10 notches higher. The Doors and CCR should be top 25 and the other prog stuff like Floyd, Traffic, ELP, King Crimson should be at least 50. As well as Brian Eno/Robert Fripp.

Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:14pm


Cheesecrop:

I don't think Dylan could surpass The Beatles unless he has some more top 10 songs like his heyday in the 60's. The college kids today aren't really into him. The only stuff from the 60's you hear on college radio today really is The Velvet Underground and Love.

The Stones-no way. They are the butt of too many Jay Leno jokes.

U2's got a chance of making the top 15 and Springsteen will probably stay about where he is....

Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:24pm


The Kinks are way too low, and U2 are too high (i.e. included on the list).

RS has really gone and stereotyped itself with it's newer group picks. Radiohead? Check. NIN? Check. Eminem? Check....

Posted by Liam on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:29pm


That has to be one of the worst lists I've ever seen. I mean, Madonna? that high up? Isn't part of the criteria being able to sing?

And this isn't the first time Rolling Stone Magazine has shafted Pink Floyd. I have no more respect for Rolling Stone. I thought they knew what they were talking about!!

Posted by That Guy on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:31pm


How is Bob Dylan ahead of Elvis and The Rolling Stones? And how are Prince and Nirvana ahead of Johnny Cash. I'm getting tired of RS overrating Bob Dylan, Nirvana, and The Beatles (Although they actually deserve it).

And where is Pink Floyd?

Posted by Slinky on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:40pm


With Rolling Stone, they always seem to want to add the "band du jour" (who's popular now or in the recent past) to most of their lists. When speaking of Nirvana, I recently saw a video of "She's Lost Control" by Joy Division. I immediately thought of "All Apologies" by Nirvana. Now, Joy Division didn't have a very long career, but I think they are more influential than Nirvana, yet they aren't on the list. If you listen to Joy Division, they really started something, people hadn't heard anything quite like it, and it bridged the gap between punk and New Wave...IMO. Nirvana was more of an exclaimation point to the whole grunge thing.

Once again, just one man's observation...feel free to comment.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:51pm


By the way, can someone explain to me what exactly is so great about Stevie Wonder?

Posted by That Guy on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 19:55pm


To all of you geniuses who are blaming this list on "Rolling Stone": only 20% of the voters have ties to the magazine.

Posted by fact check on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 20:52pm


If you think Rolling Stone doesn't have the final say in these matters or what they print, all I have to say is "think again!!!"

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 21:01pm


"Immortal" is such a wrong word. it makes me laugh.

Posted by Shit Face on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 21:53pm


So here's a break on the whole immortals argument. We're all music enthusiasts here, so i just have a question. Do you think folk rock, like the eagles and bob dylan, and all those guys, will be the most poplular genre next decade, and alternative will finally die down? Cause, let's look at history, The most popular genre of the nineties: Alternative. Underground genre of the eighties: Alternative. Most popular genre of the eighties: New Wave. Underground genre of the 70's: New Wave. And so, Most popular genre of the 00's: Alternative. Underground genre of the 00's: Folk Rock. So, if history repeats itself, won't folk be the most popular next decade? Just a guess. Reply back, want to see your opinions

Posted by Calzone on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 12:26pm


I can't say it would surprise me...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 12:39pm


Calzone - I have to disagree with your analysis of the 80's. The only way you can measure most popular is sales and I think the Hair Metal/Hard Rock scene of the 80's outsold just about all other genres.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 15:26pm


Dameon...I think if you're throwing Culture Club, Duran Duran, the Eurythmics, Tears for Fears, Depeche Mode, etc...into that New Wave mix, you're talking a whole lot of record sales. I don't know that anyone kept track of those sub-genres sales totals, but it could've been pretty much of a push.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 16:22pm


You really think alternative is THE sound of today? Interesting. I'd actually like to know where you're coming from here. The old Pearl Jam sound is simply modern commercial hard rock these days. Are you referring to the Seether's & Breaking Benjamin's of the world? For all the derision it has received, Emo is at least different from this. I'm probably more inclined to accept 80's metal in the popularity column.

This may sound way out, but my vision of the next wave of the future is a mix of 80's metal and 90's electronica - picture if you can Yngwie Malmsteen & the Chemical Bros. (I hope that image hasn't given you nightmares)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 19:35pm


Not at all Gitar - when discussing popularity, the only measuring stick is sales and concert attendance. If you look at the actual numbers, I think you will find that the Hair Band/Hard Rock scene wins decisively in these two categories.

That means nothing to me when discussing immortal bands. I am certainly not going to put Twisted Sister in the same company as Dylan and the Beatles. I was just commenting on Calzones analysis of New Wave being the dominant genre.

Understand that I actually hate the pigeonholing of bands into these little groups. Grunge was nothing more than Hard Rock. I was living and breathing the punk scene in Alaphbet City in Manhattan in the mid 70's and enjoyed what I thought was Punk/New Wave. It took Liam and Shawn to clearly explain to me the post-punk scene and how it is different. I thought it was all the same. At least that is how the clubs in Manhattan treated it.

The bands I played in during the 70's and early 80's were influenced by Aerosmith, Led Zep, ALice Cooper and the Ramones. Plus we added a bit of Sweet, Queen and Mott The Hoople into the mix. Obviously it didn't work out for us. It is probably why I will scream until I am blue in tyhe face about the NY Dolls, Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick and The Stooges. It is a travesty that these three bands are not in the Hall, because in my opinion, they should all be on the immortal list.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 22:25pm


Ooops - it seems that I forgot how to count. That would be four bands. And I will throw ELP and King Crimson and Procul harum into this mix.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 22:28pm


Gitar

I'm with Dameon on the hair/metal/rock bands ruling the charts/sales/attendance in the 80's. You've got Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Poison, Whitesnake, Van Halen,Twisted Sister, Bon Jovi. Not to mention all the lesser bands that even were popular like White Lion, Winger, Enuff Znuff, Sleez Breeze, Giufarri and of course the band that I have inducted into my own peronsal HOF (since no one else will!! Ha! :) Danger Danger!!!!!!!!

Posted by dano on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 22:52pm


It'd be hard to call today's Mainstream Rock "alternative" for reasons besides it's not really alternative, but mainstream. It sounds more like they're trying to be like Metallica. Doesn't really have the same feel as Pearl Jam or Nirvana.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 23:15pm


No, it doesn't have the same feel as Nirvana or Pearl Jam, or Smashing Pumpkins, or R.E.M, or any of those guys. But, it's the same style, taken after these guys. And Coldplay, this decade's megastars, are basically just taking after Radiohead. So, everything this decade has done, is influenced on 90's alternative rock. So i don't know how else to describe this decade's music, other than alternative. And, alternative was never meant to be a genre, is was just a way to describe the movement that was coming in the late eighties that wasn't hair metal, or New wave, so they had to describe it simply as alternative. But once it hit the mainstream, in the 90's, it became a genre. So that's how i'm going to describe it. But, back to my real question, Do you think that folk rock will be the most popular genre next decade? please respond, want to see opinions.

Posted by Calzone on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 07:13am


This may sound way out, but my vision of the next wave of the future is a mix of 80's metal and 90's electronica - picture if you can Yngwie Malmsteen & the Chemical Bros. (I hope that image hasn't given you nightmares)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 19:35pm

THAT DOES give my nightmares. God help us all.

Posted by The Chief on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 13:45pm


Ooops - it seems that I forgot how to count. That would be four bands. And I will throw ELP and King Crimson and Procul harum into this mix.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 22:28pm

It's PROCOL HARUM btw ;)

Posted by The Chief on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 13:50pm


Thanks for the correction teacher. I also forgot to capitalize the "H". Shame on me!

I have no idea what will be the next dominant genre. But then I just don't care anymore. Although I still like to touch base every now and then with the new stuff that is coming out, at this point in my life, I have pretty much accepted the fact that when I want to sit back and relax, I am going to put on the music that I know and love. Their are 5 discs in my CD player right now: The NY Dolls, Lovin Spoonful, Cheap Trick, Golden Earring and The Kinks. I guess I am old.

FYI -Moontan by Golden Earring is a very under-rated album. Radar Love is not even the best song on the LP. Candy's Going Bad and Vanilla Queen are great tracks.

I must admit that except for ELP's music, I prefer hard-driven electric guitar music.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 16:05pm


Well, I'm a little confused as to what constitutes popular. I may be wrong, but I didn't think Alternative was as popular as Adult Contemporary, Country, or R&B/Rap.

I think folk rock is trying to manifest itself now in the likes of Colbie Caillat, John Mayer, etc. They haven't quite nailed it down yet, so maybe it will be. But if it does, it means Mayer and Caillat will have been seen as major influences upon the movement. Oy vey.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 16:53pm


What no Ludicris? ..That's ludicrous

I predict in 25 years he'll be just as influential and popular as some of these turkeys and mre than some.

Tells you how good the Rolling Stones opinion is.

Help find me a life!

Posted by laz on Friday, 08.1.08 @ 14:12pm


dudee, where's Bon Jovi?

Posted by Jessie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 08:19am


Where they deserve to be. That is, not on this list.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 08:42am


oh yah, and madonna and prince deserve to be there? dumbass.

Posted by jessie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 11:28am


I see no problem with Prince on that list. He is abso f'n lutely one of the great musicians of the last 50 years. He has traveled through every musical genre and always gave us something refreshing to listen to.

Madonna - who cares? I don't!

Bon Jovi should not be on some list for immortals! They are not even in the top 5 bands of their genre (of course that is assuming you are placing B.J. in the Hard Rock genre):

Def Leppard
Motley Crue
Tesla
Guns And Roses
Hanoi Rocks (My guilty pleasure)

Let's accept Bon Jovi for what they were and are. A well rehearsed RnR band who knew what their audience was and what they liked. They made their fans happy, and there is nothing wrong with that. They broke no new ground! They didn't even reinvent an older genre. They were excellent students of the trends and did nothing to mess that up. They inspired many teenagers and everyone had a good time.

Like I said, I am not a hater. I actually own their first 3 albums - I stopped after listening to SWW.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 12:21pm


"oh yah, and madonna and prince deserve to be there?"

Yep. I'd even say, more than most other acts from the 80s.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 12:57pm


hunnie, the only problem with your comment are there are far too many past tensed verbs...they're still doing it man. yah maybe not on this list but i believe 100% that they should be inducted they are a class act, like no other. And their live show is an experience worth a lifetime. im sick of all the people saying that they had their day and they are not worthy they are the most worthy deserving boys ever! i am only 16 but i know my music. and the fact that you stopped listening after their most successful album dumfounds me. but its all good, sorry i called you s dumbass claw, i was a little heated.

Posted by jessie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 21:38pm


Man - I wish I was 16 again! And by the way, SWW was not their best album, it was just their most popular album. In my opinion, 7800 Faranheit was a far superior recording, both musically and lyrically. And I have seen BJ live - they do play for their fans. There can be no disputing that fact. But trust me, if their show was an experience worth a lifetime, then you missed a thousand other lifetimes by missing out on so many other great bands that were the big influences behind BJ.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 08:38am


well ive only been around for so long, i havent gotten a chance to see the greats of the oldies. i have seen, clapton, boston, styx, police,bruce and the e street band, metallica, and yah they all bloww you away, but its like they dont have a connection with fans, its like just another concert, but for me anyway bon jovi, is just an amazing experience, maybe not a wholee lifetime but maybe a half one! I dont know maybe im just some chick that doesent know what im talking about, but i love them! i didnt say best album, i just said most successful, its kind of they really got on their feet in the music world you know? in my opinion, "this left feel right" is their best. but it's all good man.

Posted by jessie on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 08:55am


Jessie - enjoy them with all your heart. If they have touched your soul, then keep them forever. And believe me, you are not just some chick. You love music and that is what will keep the spirit of youth alive. So don't just be some any chick. Be the one that makes all the little boys close their eyes a little harder and wish a little stronger. Then go out there and rule the world. Us old people keep f*cking it up anyway; someone has got to fix our mess.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 11:59am


Dameon, thank you! you are such a sweet guy. Most "older" people think the youth is pretty much composed of dumbasses, the fact that you said that means a lot, and i will continue to love them, and music all together. thank you for your kind words. i will not be some chick, i will be a kickass chick! promise! and I know i keep talking about bon jovi but, they have a song called "just older" and it says your not "old" just "older" and thats what you are, just older. Probably wiser,and more intelligent, and i hope to be as wise and smart as you one day! and once again thanks man!

Posted by jessie on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 12:16pm


I was young once too. I ruled NYC streets and now it is your turn. I just hope to God you are all smarter than we were.

Hey Liam - you are still young. Same goes for you dude.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 14:18pm


I think if you're younger you should take advantage of the resources available to you and check out artists from the "bygone" era of Rock & Roll...don't get stuck on any one artist. I'm a firm believer of "you can't know where you're going if you don't know where you've been".

As an example, Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, one of the foremost opera singers ever was asked who she thought was the greatest singing voice ever. She bluntly replied, "That's easy...Elvis Presley." Now why would a singer of her stature say that? Take a trip back to the 50's and listen. You may not agree with her, but you'll have an understanding of what made him what he was. Do that with a lot of artists from a lot of eras. Listen to songs that made a generation. You'll have fun in the process. Also, rent the 5 DVD set of "The History Of Rock & Roll", covers everything from the beginning to rap/hip-hop, and the people who were interviewed read like a who's who of Rock music...great stuff.

I think Dameon and I have some things in common...sounds like we both either played in or frequented our fair share of smoky bars, small venues, and "interesting" nightclubs!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 19:23pm


I still am!

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 21:58pm


thats really great advice gitarzan, i mean i think im so persistant on bon jovi, because i just recently went to their concerts last month, and i suppose im still on a post-concert high...if that makes sence, they're like all i listen to now. but i know what you mean.they're certainly not the only great band out there. i lieke you "older' guys here, things you say sound so wise and smart, i mean im still in my i just wanna do the stupidest meaningless shit ever just cause im still a kid, but i wouldnt mind wising up like ya'll a little bit.

Posted by jessie on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 22:02pm


These lists drive me insane. I have so much to say about it that I want to explode. They are too diverse. Black Sabbath are rock immortals and would be at the top of that list. The Sex Pistol are punk immortals and would top that list, maybe. But it is my opinion that the Sex Pistols are borderline musicians at best and a flash in the pan act whereas Black Sabbath are very talented and produced one great album after another. Black Sabbath 85 on the list and the Sex Pistols 58, that is crazy. Frank Zappa, he is supposed to be this great composer but how many people own his cd's and pop them in and listen. His music is some bizarre comedy music, to me it is unlistenable. Bob Dylan #2. Come on it's time to put down the beads and take the flower power sticker off your car. Bob Dylan is a poet, he sucks as a musician and is probably the worst singer ever! What is the big deal about Bob Dylan that was like 100 years ago. Their are so many bands and artists on this list that don't even know what rock and roll is, Aretha Franklin, Madonna, Hank Williams are you kidding.

Posted by Space Trucker on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 23:51pm


Dameon...I'm hip to that...lol!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.7.08 @ 07:08am


A big ten-four to the Truckin Man... I hear you on Dylan. Bobby D at #2 over Presley at #3 or even the Stones at #4 is a bit out there to me. Earlier on this page I tried to gauge if anyone thought Dylan could top the Beatles, considering he was still producing new work. It was out of interest in regards to the list being fluid in terms of movement. You say you've a lot to say in regards to the list. Let's hear it. You've no room for a full 100, but just list a few you might move around. That goes for anybody just discovering this site and this particular page of postings as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 08.7.08 @ 16:19pm


Exactly how is dylan ahead of elvis and the stones?!

Posted by the on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 14:09pm


Okay Cheesecrop I'm going to really shake this list up and probably piss a lot of people off.

As I said in a post on RRHOF Criteria, Rock and Roll is guitar driven with a few exceptions Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elton John (I think) and maybe a few others. Below is who is not in my Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Aretha Franklin
James Brown
Marvin Gaye
Ray Charles
Bob Marley
Otis Redding
Fats Domino
Johnny Cash
Madonna
Micheal Jackson
Simon and Garfunkel
Sly and the Family Stone
Parliment
Louis Jordan (Who?)
Joni Mitchell
Etta James
Al Green
The Temptations
Jackie Wilson
Carl Perkins
Hank Williams
The Shirelles
The Four Tops
The Drifters
James Taylor
Ricky Nelson
Martha and the Vandells
Diana Ross

I think the founders of the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame got in way over their heads when they started this and they really should change the name to the Music Hall of Fame because they don't seem to have a clue what rock and roll is. But I know we do.

Give The Power Back To The PEOPLE!

C-YA
SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 18:12pm


Well, now you went and done it. The page on voting statistics was interesting, but possibly the worst thing you could have done was to put up who posted the most. You may find yourself inundated w/ fanboys (and girls), spammers of all sorts, and anyone who simply falls in the general idiot category.

Like the #'s in general, though. Who would have thought... Senses Fail??!!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 05:00am


The Digital Dream Door website lists eligible artists for the Rock Hall into 10 categories.

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Artist
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals


Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 18:23pm
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I took the liberty of moving this over to the "Immortals" section.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 05:58am


I just took a quick look at this site. Here are some observations:

On the guitarist list, where is Mick Ralphs from Mott and Bad Company, and Jake E. Lee from OZZY and Badlands? Jonny Marr should be rated much higher.

Drummer List: Peart and Bonham are not in Carl Palmer's league. And Keith Moon was a much better drummer that Bonham.

Bass Guitarist. With all due respect to Jamerson, there is no way in this or any life that he tops Entwistle.

Keyboardists: Ray Manzarek needs to be dropped down big time on this list.

Vocalists: At least they got number one right. There will never be another Freddie Mercury again. Daltrey needs to be moved into the top 10 and Geoff Tate into the top 5. (For some reason, they only have Freddie as #5 on greatest frontmen - he should be number 1 there as well.

Greatest Rock Vocal Performances: They definitely got the top 4 correct.

Greatest Rock Songwriters: Townsend and Ray Davies need to be in the top 5.



Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 06:42am


Drummer List: Peart and Bonham are not in Carl Palmer's league. And Keith Moon was a much better drummer that Bonham.

Bass Guitarist. With all due respect to Jamerson, there is no way in this or any life that he tops Entwistle.

Ar far as drummers go Hal Blaine is the # 1..
in a leauge of his own.. Next rock drummer is Charlie Watts.. Keith is cool #3


Jamerson is as hot as Entwistle.. Maybe even hotter.. Both good no doubt..

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 06:56am


With all due respect mrxyz - I do love Hal Blaine, but Charlie Watts is definitely not in the top 5. And Carl Palmer still tops my list. If you are really interested in the actuality of a drummer, check out Ringo. People don't realize how good of a drummer he really is.

As for the Most Influential Artist list: Can someone please explain to me how the Who is not in the top 10?

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 07:05am


I've always been a big Jaco Pastorius fan. With bands, I look at how good the drummer and bass player interact, so it's hard for me to say. Some very talented people have been brought up.

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 07:14am


With all due respect mrxyz - I do love Hal Blaine, but Charlie Watts is definitely not in the top 5. And Carl Palmer still tops my list. If you are really interested in the actuality of a drummer, check out Ringo. People don't realize how good of a drummer he really is.

As for the Most Influential Artist list: Can someone please explain to me how the Who is not in the top 10?

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 07:05am


LOL I like Ringo the "Luckest Drummer in the WORLD"
Having said that.. Charlie Watts and Hal Blaine have the best timming.. It is not how much you lay down it is where you lay it down...

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 07:14am


It is not always timing, especially when you are doing music that is past a normal 4/4 beat.

The perfect example of this is Keith Moon and I will bring Gitar's statement of interaction between the drummer and bass guitarist. Bill Wyman is a Bass Player, not a guitarist so what Watts did had more to do with being synchronized with Watts the backbeat. And we also must take into account that the Stones had a second guitarist. What Keith Moon did was allow the fullness of Townsends ideas to come to fruitation while maintaining the backbeat. If you look at footage of the Who live, you will see Townsend and Entwhistle constantly looking at Moon and visa versa. It was like an orchestra with three instruments. Now we move to Carl Palmer and the enormous complexity of ELP's music. What he had to do with the backbeat was bring it to a whole different level.

Some musicians have cited Ward and Butler from Black Sabbath as the greatest rythem section in all of Rock. They were a great tandum.

Like I said, all respect to Blaine and Watts, but they are not, IMO, the drummers that Moon and Palmer are.

My Pop's who hated RnR and was a big Gene Kruppa and Buddy Rich fan would actually ask me to play Moon and Palmer for him. He had great respect for ELP and although he hated the Who, he loved to hear Moon play. Many musicians from the 60's all the way to present day have cited Keith Moon as a genius on drums. One of the Gallagher Bros from Oasis has been quoted as calling Moon the Hendrix of drummers. That says a lot.

As for Ringo; the Beatles couldn't exist without him. There is a video of Hello/Goodbye out there somewhere. Check out his drumming.

I wish someone will explain to me the importance of The Doors. I still don't see it except in the context of Morrison's antics. Although, The End is one of the great songs of all time. What did Lester Bangs call them; a bunch of egotistical drunks or something like that?

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 08:26am


Like I said, all respect to Blaine and Watts, but they are not, IMO, the drummers that Moon and Palmer are.

As for Ringo; the Beatles couldn't exist without him. There is a video of Hello/Goodbye out there somewhere. Check out his drumming.


I would agree Blanie and Watts are not Palmer.Plamer is great but no Watts or Blaine..

Ringo is the Beatles drummer for the most part.. The Beatles would not of sounded like they did ith out Ringo ..He did a great job.. I would put him in the top 20 maybe even top 10...That is why he is the Luckiest drummer in the world.. I did find it funny that Payboy named him jazz drummer of the year a long time ago lol ya got to love the HYPE...!!
Blaine and Watts have the pocket and their kick work there is no better...The Best rock stuff out there in my opinion . Blaine is the "ROCK DRUMMER" with over 20,000 recorded and released songs.. that is a fact !!!


Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 08:50am


I would never discount Watts or Blaine on any greatest list. Musical opinions are all subjective and I would rank both of them very high; but I will always rank Palmer and Moon as 1 & 2.

Personally, I love Psychedelic Percussion. It was a great piece of work. One of the best.

Here is the thing with Blaine - out of all these drummers, he is the one who has had a chance to work with so many artists. He was never confined for any long period of time to just one type of music. He is definitely the greatest session drummer of all time. (The Beach Boys wouldn't have been squat without him in the studio half the time.) So I think this freed him up a bit to do so many different things.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:10am


Here is the thing with Blaine - out of all these drummers, he is the one who has had a chance to work with so many artists. He was never confined for any long period of time to just one type of music. He is definitely the greatest session drummer of all time. (The Beach Boys wouldn't have been squat without him in the studio half the time.) So I think this freed him up a bit to do so many different things.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:10am

The reason he is the best session drummer of all time is becauce he is the best drummer of all time lol When your going for "GOLD" you take no chances.. that is why it is called the music "BUSINESS"

HE IS ON MORE STUFF THAN HE EVER WOULD LET ON IN PRINT...that is a FACT lol

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:22am


I got it mrxyz!

but he is still not better than Moon or Palmer ;-) And on this, I won't budge.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:44am


got it mrxyz!

but he is still not better than Moon or Palmer ;-) And on this, I won't budge.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:44am


I like MOON a great drummer one of the best and a fun guy...
It all depends on what you think the best is..
Moon had one style for the most part and did it perfect.. I can't see him doing Country ,Jazz Hendrix , Beach Boys , Sam Cook .... in one day and sound different and perfect in each session . Doing 1 - 2 takes and bye see ya later can you...?

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 09:52am


Agreed mrxyz. But the list I commented on was "Greatest Rock Drummers", not "Most Skilled Drummer".

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 10:34am


Someone above inquired as to the importance of the Doors while denigrating them as "egotistical drunks" (a term you could apply to at least half the Hall )

"The Doors were never part of any movement. Indeed, during an era of very high fliers, their visionary trajectory sought an orbit positioned well outside of the rock norm. Their journey was driven by a unique group vision and a determination to push the envelope of poetry, spirituality, intellect and psycho-sexual exploration in popular music as far as possible." -classicbands.com

As for the drummers, Carl Palmer will always be my pick as #1 for his unsurpassed technical ability as well as his versatility in terms of musical styles.....

Posted by classicrocker on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 11:01am


Agreed mrxyz. But the list I commented on was "Greatest Rock Drummers", not "Most Skilled Drummer".

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 10:34am

lol Well with 20,000 recorded and release songs with God only know how many gold hits ,the most hits of all drummer and most skilled..what make them the greatest Hollywood hype? If you are Elvis, Sinatra, Lennon, Denver, Diamond, Sam Cook, Grass Roots , Byrds , Hendrix, Bufflo Spring Fields, Beach Boys, Fith Dimension, Donavan,Carpintors, Mama and Papas, Monkeys, Diana Ross ,Phill Spector, George Harrison,Ray Charles, Jan and Dean, Dick Dale,Streistand ,Herb Albert.. Paul Reeve and the Raiders, Jonny Rivers Associations ,Roy Oberson ,Cystrials, Cohen,gee about a 100 more lol What makes the greatest..??I think all of these bands /musicians think he is the greatest!!!


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Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 11:34am


CR - I respect your opinion on the Doors and I am sure most people agree with you, but I agree with Lester Bangs. "The End" & "Alabama Song"are the only songs I will play by them, ever!

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 12:18pm


I love the Doors
Can't think of a song I do not enjoy.. Must be 1 I don't like but skips my mind

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 12:27pm


About the only thing I can say about Hal Blaine is...Is there anyone he HASN'T played with (LOL)!! When I think of bands, I usually do think of the drum/bass interaction. I mean, Fleetwood Mac wouldn't exist without Mick Fleetwood AND John McVie...they're definitely one of the best backbeats around, and they're very basic. I compare Keith Moon to Ginger Baker in style...both incredible drummers. Another drummer I've been impressed by is Terry Bozzio, especially with Jeff Beck.

Outside of Entwistle (who always dazzled me when I watched him, even though I'm not the biggest Who fan in the world), a lot of the great bass players are soloists themselves (people like Stanley Clarke, Louis Johnson, etc...).

Anyway, that's why I think of rhythm sections as one entity (well, usually...).

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 19:54pm


When I think of bands, I usually do think of the drum/bass interaction. I mean,

I think of the bass and drums locked all the time when I hear the music..

Watts and Wynman were great .. Blaines kick is what hold most of the bands together..
Some one got to hold it..LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 20:17pm


mrxyz...wasn't Tommy Tedesco a member of the "Wrecking Crew" too? It seems I heard that he was somewhere. As far as playing sessions, he was to guitar what Hal Blaine is/was to drums...a really great player who adapted to just about everything!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 20:19pm


Whoa Now!

I try not to get too caught up these "who is the best at a certain instrument" lists but they are fun and being a drummer (amateur at best) I felt compelled to chime in.

As soon as I saw Neil Peart is not in Carl Palmers league I dropped my sticks and fell off my drum stool...LOL. Come on Carl Palmer is a top Rock Drummer no doubt but “not in his league” what is his league? He does not stand in a league all his own that is ridiculous.

I believe you have to have levels of drummers. I know this defeats the whole idea of who is the best which to me is a silly conversation anyway so I would like to offer groups or levels of Rock Drummers.

Group A: Best of the Best for technical ability, diversity in style and equipment (can you image Charlie Watts sitting at Neil Peart’s kit) in no particular order:

Carl Palmer
Neil Peart
Greg Bissonette
Terry Bozzio

Group B: Rock Solid, hard hitters and not that technical in no particular order:

John Bonham
Keith Moon
Ginger Baker
Tommy Aldridge
Don Brewer

Group C: Good time keepers, Got in with the right bunch of fellows.

Ringo Starr
Charlie Watts
Mick Fleetwood
Nick Mason

John Entwistle kept time for The Who not Keith Moon, he was all over the place. The reason Townsend and Entwistle were looking at him all the time is because they were wondering when he was going to fall off his drum stool…LOL.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 22:01pm


(can you image Charlie Watts sitting at Neil Peart’s kit) in no particular order:


I don't think Watts needs IT.. He seem to do fine with his 4 pc.. !!!
ya should hear him in his jazz group...

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 22:36pm


mrxyz...wasn't Tommy Tedesco a member of the "Wrecking Crew" too? It seems I heard that he was somewhere. As far as playing sessions, he was to guitar what Hal Blaine is/was to drums...a really great player who adapted to just about everything!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 20:19pm


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Yes he is a wrecking crew.. Beside Guitar he plays other strings ya should hear him on the sitar...

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 22:45pm


Hal was just inducted to the Hollywood rock walk..of fame
As you know Jim Fuller of the Surfaris is also there .. The "Godfather of Surf Guitar"..
Seems some folks know the real players PS don't worry !!__ King Dick is there also LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 08.15.08 @ 22:55pm


The Digital Dream Door website lists eligible artists for the Rock Hall into 10 categories.

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Artist
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 06:11am


Another top notch drummer I thought of is Nigel Olsson, who played with Uriah Heap briefly and played with Elton John during his incredible run in the 70's. From what I understand he rejoined John some time ago. He also tried a cereer as a singer, but didn't have much commercial success.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 10:25am


Your right mrxyz, Charlie Watts does fine on his four piece kit and thats it, he just does fine. He is a great time keeper with a ledgendary band.

I don't care about Jazz this is supposed to be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Future ROCK Hall, are you telling me jazz is now rock and roll? Then we better start inducting jazz drummers, country drummers, big band drummers, rap drummers, oh ya they don't actually play their instruments.

I think a lot of people (not you XYZ) that paticipate on these forums don't have a clue what Rock and Roll is, Back Street Boys, Mariah Carey, 50 Cent come on, that is not Rock and Roll! I've asked for your definitions of Rock and Roll but only got one response from Dameon, anyone else care to chime in.

SpaceTrucker

"Long Live Rock"
The Who

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 11:41am


Rock & Roll is a melting pot of nearly all modern day music, only with a harder edge (and more volume, in most cases). It is probably the first genre to actually have what we call "attitude", and probably runs the gamit of emotions more than all other forms of music COMBINED!

There, ST...that's pretty much how I'd defne it.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 12:20pm


Left the "b" out of "gambit"...oh, well...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 12:23pm


Your right mrxyz, Charlie Watts does fine on his four piece kit and thats it, he just does fine. He is a great time keeper with a ledgendary band.

I don't care about Jazz this is supposed to be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Future ROCK Hall, are you telling me jazz is now rock and roll? Then we better start inducting jazz drummers, country drummers, big band drummers, rap drummers, oh ya they don't actually play their instruments.

I think a lot of people (not you XYZ) that paticipate on these forums don't have a clue what Rock and Roll is, Back Street Boys, Mariah Carey, 50 Cent come on, that is not Rock and Roll! I've asked for your definitions of Rock and Roll but only got one response from Dameon, anyone else care to chime in.

SpaceTrucker

"Long Live Rock"
The Who



Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 11:41am

Nigal is a great drummer ..
As far a Watts goes, my point is he can cover it all with a 4 piece kit..
Hal Blaine and Watts can do with 1 bass drum where most need 2 bass drums..lol
The reason I brought up Watts as and jazz drummer is he has a lot of fills when needed, more than most drummers. It is not how much it is how. Most times less is more..
All ya need is EARS


Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 12:33pm


SpaceTrucker

"Long Live Rock"
The Who



Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 11:41am


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When you get a chance listen to the Surfaris Point Panic on "youtube"
I know for a fact, that Keith Moon loved Ron Wilsons of the Surfaris drumming ...He and the Van Halens Loved the Surfaris early roots of a wild guitar riffs and kick ass drums.. Bare in mind, when the Surfaris did it,, It had not been done in rock and there was no over dubbing {1963}etc {all 2 track live recordings }very ,very low recording budget also ..lol The Who and Van Halen built on the Surfaris primal roots of breaking the rules of rock..!!!! Even Wipe Out has it.. Point Panic really has it..! lol
ALL YA NEED IS EARS...{SMILE}

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 12:46pm


Dameon...quick question. Do you recall a group called The Ocean Blue? They had a pretty good song called "Between Something And Nothing" in about '89 or so, and then vanished (from around here, anyway). I came across their self-titled CD buried in a box and listened to it again. It really wasn't too bad...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 14:30pm


"Most times less is more.."-mrxyz

...ain't that the truth!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 14:33pm


Hey, mrxyz...I did some snooping, and discovered there's a film coming out about The Wrecking Crew. Looks like it could be cool...a bali hai (did I just say that???). Anyway, check out this attachment. I guess Denny Tedesco put it together...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzShxEa1LMo&feature=related

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 14:51pm


Mrxyz,

I totally respect your opinion of Mr. Watts as a great drummer. I don't have a problem with a good solid straight-up rock drum beat, I love a good solid groove and sometimes less is more. But we are talking about the best drummers and I don't think less is more applies here

As I stated in an earlier post I play the drums (amateur at best). I don't know if you play. I gage a drummer by my ability to play what they do. I can play most everything Charlie Watts plays with the Rolling Stones, I don't know about his ability to play jazz. Now when I attempt to play Neil Peart's or Carl Palmer's parts I can only dream of doing some of the things they do, so naturally to me they are better drummers.

So maybe my opinion is skewed because I play. If someone forms their opinion based on entertainment value thats fine. Thats why there is no absolute with these discussions so if you think Charlie Watts is the best thats cool. Enjoy!

SpaceTrucker

"Rock you Like A Hurricane"
Scorpions

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 18:03pm


"I can only dream of doing some of the things they do, so naturally to me they are better drummers"-ST

Maybe someday they'll look at you and say "now why didn't I think of that???"...that's what growing as a player is all about.

"KEEP LAYIN' DOWN THE THUNDER!!!!!"

What, I can't hear you!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 18:30pm


Gitarzan,

AWESOME!

Now we are getting somewhere. Harder edge, more volume and played with an attitude. ROCK and ROLL!

Dameon agrees with the attitude and so do I.

I also agree with the harder edge and more volume.

Now what if we say Rock and Roll is harder edged guitar driven music that is played louder and with more attitude. Anyone else want to add to that?

I know the piano played a big part early on but was quickly replaced with the electric guitar for the most part. Without the electric guitar it just doesn't have the balls, the crunch, the sustain, the feedback and of coarse the volume. I think the electric guitar is essential for any good rock song.

The emotion you mentioned is also a big part of it. Rock music is very powerful stuff.

If you apply our description of Rock and Roll to current inductees and nominated inductees many of them don't add up to Rock and Roll and should not be in the so called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Have you ever thought about a Rock Hall of Fame that truly represents Rock and Roll? I know I have. If you could create your own what would be your criteria, how would pick nominees and how would they get elected? I would love to hear everyones thought on this.

Of coarse if you think that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is doing a great job this topic is not for you.

SpaceTrucker

"Well they call me the working man'
Rush

Posted by Space Trucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 19:51pm


Elton John and Billy Joel have made a case for the guitar not being the only instrument. Wakeman, Jon Lord and Keith Emerson also showed that heavier music did not have to have the guitar leading the way. There is also Kraftwerk on the techno side. But of course, the Electric guitar will always be the instrument of choice.

Rock was always about attitude and angst. It can go political at times, but in the end, it amounts to teenage hormones that drive the sound. But it all comes through in the song, and the true meaning of Rock comes out through the songwriter and most songs are usually written on the accoustic guitar, piano or small casio keyboard. It is in the studio where the Electric Guitar rules.

Posted by Dameon on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 21:13pm


Dameon,

I get the keyboard Rock and Roll thing, I know there are exceptions. But out of the thousands of rock bands there have not been that many keyboard lead bands. Jon Lord had Ritchie Blackmore, Rick Wakeman had Steve Howe. Elton John and Billy Joel's hardest rocking songs were powered by guitar.

I push Rock and Roll is guitar driven because I truly belive for the most part that it is, at least good Rock and Roll is.

I am trying to make my case because I believe it was a huge blunder on the part of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to induct Madonna and Grand Master Flash that just opens the door for boy bands, rap, pop music everthing not Rock and Roll.

Rock and Roll is about the music, pure hard rocking music.

SpaceTrucker

"Long Live Rock and Roll, Long Live Rock and Roll"
Rainbow

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 22:52pm


Hey Dameon, you forgot to mention Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard.

Honestly though, I mean, Jethro Tull showed that even a flute could be a rock 'n' roll instrument. Yeah, guitars are a huge part of it, but really, any instrument can be a part of the fun.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.16.08 @ 23:09pm


Hey Philip - I didn't mention JLL and LR because their's is a complete given. No one can deny them. And any instrument can be taken and brought into the mix. Long before Kansas, Mott The Hoople used the violin in spots that were different than the usual string arrangements.

ST - as much as I am not a fan of Madonna or pure dance music, I understand the need and love for the genre. Remember, RnR was also an expression of dance back in the 50's and like all other forms of RnR, "dance" always had an audience and always will. As for Rap; again not my favorite, but it certainly has its place in the RnR Hall. Music evolves in so many different directions and because bands started incorporating rap into Rock, you can easily see the importance of placing the early pioneers of Rap into the Hall. We will see in the future if Rap has a continuing effect on Rock and Roll.

I am of your mind that I prefer straight up power chord driven Rock, but believe me, you need all forms for the continued perpetuation of the artform.

The RnR Hall of Fame is named as such because that is what music of the 50's was called in its earliest form (Alan Freed). But it has grown into so much more.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 05:17am


Dameon...don't forget that Buddy Holly used violins on songs like "You Don't Matter Anymore"...lots of pizzicato in that track. There are a lot of great keyboard and piano players in rock history, because they could create a mood, in my opinion. The introduction of synthesizers made it a little easier to create a mood or emotion. A good example would be "Summer Madness" by Kool & The Gang (for those of you not familiar, go to youtube and listen...CLASSIC song). Tell me what that song would've been without the synthesizer.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 08:26am


Okay Dameon,

I think we just need to agree to disagree. I do not care to add dance bands and rap to my Rock CD collection and I certainly don't want to honor them as Rock and Roll Hall of Famers but than who am I? The big corporate money machine will keep rolling along.

I have to tell you though, it seems very ironic to me that I am rebelling against an entity that is trying to honor Rock and Roll music which is based on a form of rebellion.

SpaceTrucker

"I Love it, I need it, I want it, I'm a Highway Star"
Deep Purple



Posted by SpaceTrucker on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 11:30am


And who do we have to thank for the use of the Synth? The first known RnR recording using a Synth was the Monkees (at least according to several music sources). So much for them not having anything to do with the progression of RnR.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 11:31am


Wow... I ducked out for a day or two, and did you guys ever take off here! There are so many things I want to get to, but it's impossible. Maybe later down the line some of these topics will get thrown back out there (i.e. the importance of the Doors/ what can be thrown into the pot when it comes to musical instruments, etc.), but for now I want to mention the Truckin Man's comment about setting up your own Hall. He brought it up, but it's just floating out there.

I'll be honest here... I don't think I'd have a Hall of Fame. I'm on this site because I want some intelligent conversation regarding rock in general. The Hall as it is now is really only a vague concern (though I do enjoy the occasional arguments that break out over a particular artist - Perry, the Backstreets, Kiss, etc.).

If I really had to come up w/something, it might go like this - No real official waiting period for induction. A committee would be set up that would contact 12 large size clubs a year. Each month a popular modern band (Green Day/Foos/Metallica, etc.) would be paid to spend a month at the club. They would choose a music format that they liked - psychedelic/country rock/grunge, and the like - and in essence they would become a cover band, playing anyone else's song's except their own. It would all be requests from the audience. At the end of each month the top three artists requested would be put into an online pool, and after 12 months had passed, the 36 artists names would be eligible for a giant online/texting/phone/mail campaign. This would take place from the beginning of the new year till a week before the ceremony was to take place. Everyone would be up against each other, w/the top 12 in total overall votes (regardless of age, genre, etc.) going in. The venues for the committee-voted cover bands would change from year to year, so everyone had a chance to toss in a name.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 16:59pm


No Hall of Fame - EXCELLENT! Burn that ugly IM Pey building down. I will light the match myself. Elvis and Lennon must be turning over in their graves.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 17:34pm


Dameon...they could put that building to good use...how about a DISCO?????

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 17:59pm


Uhhhhhhhhhhh - NO! But we do need a new CBGB's.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 22:11pm


Great post Cheesecrop,

A very unique and fresh post about an alternate way to honor bands or artists.

After I read your post I realized I was never interested in a Hall of Fame for all the great rock bands I have enjoyed for about 40 years...damn I'm getting old but I still love to rock.

Since the Rock and Roll Hall has continuously screwed up for the most part with who they have and haven't inducted it has made me mental. I am almost obsessed with it because I believe they are doing the music I love an injustice.

I am desperately trying to come up with a legitimate alternative. Something Rock and Roll fans can sink their teeth into.

As far as Rock and Rock being guitar driven. I am not saying it is exclusive to the guitar. I love Jethro Tull (flute) J. Geils Band (harmonica) Kansas (violin) and all the great bands with piano, organ, synthesizer but you now they are all driven buy the guitar with a solid rhythm section...that is Rock and Roll to me.

Anyone else want to take a shot at the meaning of Rock and Roll or their version of an alternate Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

SpaceTrucker

"Hey, Hey, My, My, Rock and Roll will never die"
Neil Young

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Monday, 08.18.08 @ 18:54pm


iron maiden, and modorhead shoud be on this list , especialy PINK FLOYD

Posted by mars on Friday, 08.22.08 @ 00:12am


Perhaps this comment was earlier in the list--if so, my bad--but how is this list a "predictor" of the future inductees of the Hall of Fame when most of the acts are already inducted in said Hall?

Any and all insight is appreciated. Thank you.

Posted by Joe on Monday, 09.1.08 @ 18:27pm


Looks to me like about 10% of the artists on the list don't qualify as rock by even the broadest sense of the term (Louis Jordan, Hank Williams, Miles Davis??). Honoring pioneers and great non-rock musicians is fine but they don't belong on a rock list.

As for who's missing:

RHCP
Pink Floyd
CCR
Queen
The Jackson 5
Jefferson Airplane
CSNY
Fleetwood Mac
Jackson Browne
Van Halen
Pearl Jam
Pretenders
Talking Heads
The Replacements
Camper Van Beethoven/Cracker

And if we're honoring forerunners and near-rockers, where the hell are Frank Sinatra and Burt Bacharach?

Posted by hoopoe36 on Friday, 09.5.08 @ 15:48pm


Leonard Cohen
Chicago
Elton John

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.5.08 @ 16:03pm


Rock Hall Inductees with an "AND" in their name:

Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
Gerry Goffin and Carole King
Holland, Dozier and Holland
Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss
Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff

Simon and Garfunkel
Ike and Tina Turner
Sam and Dave

Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers
Sly and the Family Stone
Martha and the Vandellas
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Crosby Stills and Nash
The Mamas and the Papas
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Earth, Wind & Fire
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 11:40am


Was there a point to this comment and why do we care?

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 13:23pm


How many inductees have a "Z" in their name?

Posted by interviewer on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 14:32pm


It took me two days, but I read every post... I think, but its just refreshing to see a good honest debate and discussion about music without name calling or insult throwing.

I just love the fact that the RS people included Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf on the list. I love it when the blues guys get a little love in the RnR world.
Queen should be on the list so should CCR, but these lists are great over all. They do help the younger kids. Its so easy now to go to type in a name on youtube and hear a band like the Byrds or Kinks.

Posted by Odin29 on Thursday, 09.11.08 @ 14:22pm


Odin29 -

Stick around. There are some very smart folks on this site. The fact that I lower the intelligence factor by several points shouldn't frighten you in any way.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 09.11.08 @ 15:24pm


Where the Hell Is Sonny Boy Williamson?

Posted by Stan on Saturday, 09.13.08 @ 10:01am


Where is Rush!!!! come on they are the living ledgends! There are a lot that are missing like... : Rush (DUH), Kiss, Alice Cooper, Alice in Chains, The Ozzman!!!!, T-rex, and Metallica (but yes they WILL be inducted in 2009)

Posted by sebastian on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 19:00pm


Where the hell are the Smashing Pumpkins?!?!?!?!

there is a hand full on that list that billy corgan wrote or contributed to there most famous or best stuff.

And it is an absolute insult to ROCK N ROLL that PINK Floyd is not on the list.


Posted by Mr. Pumpkin on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 07:47am


Again, no Stevie Ray Vaughan on this list.
I'm beginning to understand why SRV was snubbed by the RRHF Nominatimg Commitee. Rolling Stone magazine has too much influence on these selections. Their editors really are biased against Stevie Ray. I wonder why? I'm just gonna cancel my subsription. F*#* them!

Posted by Mosey Long on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 13:02pm


No Pink Flotd either. Guess Roger Waters pissed Rolling Stone off too. Politics shouldn't come into play when compiling these lists. Too bad they do.

Posted by Mosey Long on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 13:06pm


"No Pink Flotd either. Guess Roger Waters pissed Rolling Stone off too. Politics shouldn't come into play when compiling these lists. Too bad they do."
Posted by Mosey Long on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 13:06pm

Rolling Stone I use to line my cats litter box.
European music mags. papers such as Mojo are far superior in EVER way.

Posted by Dale on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 13:12pm


What? No Crosby, Still, Nash, & Young? No Loggins & Messina? No Paul McCartney? I thought this was the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! There are folks out here who like the classics, and I am one. In addition to the above, please consider Bon Jovi, the Doobie Brothers, America, Curtis Mayfield, and yes, Little Anthony & the Imperials.

Posted by Spauldo on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 15:38pm


Not to hate, but why in the hell is eminem on this list?

Posted by Fred on Friday, 09.26.08 @ 09:59am


Not to hate, but why in the hell is eminem on this list?

Posted by Fred on Friday, 09.26.08 @ 09:59am
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This list was dreamed up in 2004. At the time Mathers was still a dominant figure, and RS didn't want to be seen as giving him the shaft. I think we're getting a better picture down the line here of Eminem's musical staying power. He could make a comeback of sorts, but I'm not so sure how popular he'd still be.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 09.26.08 @ 16:54pm


Took a look at the VH1 list from 98. The list is more problematic than this one, inasmuch as it's from 1998. At the time, any influences from the 90's could not be measured properly, since the decade wasn't even finished. It's questionable how much the 80's benefitted from that list as well. It's nice to see that musicians created that list, but then again, didn't musicians take part in RS's as well? At least theoretically? I know VH1 asked more musicians, but in the end run are they any different from RS in their choices? What would be nice is to see both lists sitting side-by-side, so we could really get a clue as to where they stand 9musicians vs mag). I also agree w/the site in suggesting a list be created of everyone post-1980. No fair assessment can be made w/out this as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 10.7.08 @ 05:09am


The VH1 list is now listed next to the "Immortals."

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Tuesday, 10.7.08 @ 21:52pm


Site Admin. - Thank you for putting them together in such a manner.

The lists obviously clash in many respects. I'm trying to figure out the aesthetic gulf on the lists between the Doors, Led Zeppelin, and the Who. I can understand RS having a bias against Zep to a degree; they admitted so in an issue last year that had them as a feature story. W/the Who & the Doors, that's really strange. These are two acts that RS has usually pumped pretty often. To see a gap of about roughly 20 artists separating the bands on both lists is amazing. I know there's a six year gap were dealing w/but neither act did anything to radically alter their image in any way. I'd like to suggest that maybe RS was more open to considering modern acts, but this could just be a trend jumping phenomenon. Strange.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 05:05am


In my opinion, if Eminem is included, so should The White Stripes. I mean, Eminem is a great rapper and all, and you guys should stop complaining about is presence on the list, but cmon. The White Stripes are, in my opinion, the second best artist of the 00's. (Radiohead Taking the top spot of course), So where are they? And Coldplay perhaps too. Eminem deserves to be on the list, but not without these other great artists of the now listed on there too. The Marshall Mathers LP was a great album, go check it out if your still in denial about the Eminem thing.

Posted by Calzone on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 15:51pm


Well, you know of my preferences, so here is a revised comment.

I do think that the VH1 list is more preferable not only because more favored acts are on the list. There are other reasons. For one, there is actually an artist ranked #101 on the VH1 list.

The most important reason, I think, that the list that VH1 gave is more preferable can be summed up in two words: Pink Floyd. Really, could Rooling Stone Magazine make a list of 1000 Immortals and not include Pink Floyd. For me, that negates and deligitimizes the whole list. The only agreable comparison both have is rightly ranking the Beatles as #1. For myself, I would include their solo ventures as equal; that is another topic not prone to this.

Here is a theoretical question: if Rolling Stone were to revise the list today, even knowing that Richard Wright and Syd Barrett are no longer with us, would Pink Floyd be on the list?

By the by, the artist ranked #101 on the Vh1 list was Dire Straits. A fine band, yet I am not sure of their induction; no individuality came about.

Peering into the machine,

Lax25

Posted by Lax25 on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 17:58pm


Okay...let me throw you all for a loop. First of all, Rolling Stone's "immortals"...immortal what? Artists, performers, belly-dancers...what??? Now we have VH-1's 100 greatest "performers". Are all great artists great "performers"? Take Elvis...he (allegedly) never "performed" in front of an unpaid empty seat...yet VH-1 has him listed at #8...seems a little bit silly, if you ask me!!! He was probably one of the best 2 or 3 best musical "performers" ever...but not so much for being artistic.

As far as that "immortals list goes, Rolling Stone wqas obviously doing some "butt-muzzling" to appease certain factions. "As Forrest Gump would say..."and that's all I've got to say about that".

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 18:28pm


Web Adm. ...is there any way we can come up with an unabridged Future Rock Hall 100 Greatest Artists list? Say, give everyone a vote of their top ten, and go from there?

People...if this is possible, be objective. No one cares who your favorites are, just who you think are the best!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 18:46pm


Awesome idea, but fraught w/confusion here. How would we go about voting for this? I'm not so sure we could have everyone bombard the site w/100 artist lists.
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Web Adm. ...is there any way we can come up with an unabridged Future Rock Hall 100 Greatest Artists list? Say, give everyone a vote of their top ten, and go from there?

Web Adm. ...is there any way we can come up with an unabridged Future Rock Hall 100 Greatest Artists list? Say, give everyone a vote of their top ten, and go from there?

Web Adm. ...is there any way we can come up with an unabridged Future Rock Hall 100 Greatest Artists list? Say, give everyone a vote of their top ten, and go from there?

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 10.8.08 @ 18:46pm
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I think a good way to do this would be gradually, like having everyone who wants to vote on this submit their votes once a week. Do the first ten spots on week 1, #11-20 on week 2, etc. Obviously folks like Elivs, the Beatles, the Stones, Zep, would already be listed, so this would allow peole to focus in on who's not already there. If it is done at least remotely naturally, the artists will appear as we somewhat expect them to. If anyone else has a better way of acheiving this (or if I mis-read anything in the post) please let me know.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10.9.08 @ 05:35am


BTW - Sorry about that repetition - something goofy on the computer.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10.9.08 @ 05:36am


Yea Cheesecrop you miss read one part of the post, Gitarzan said everyone submit a top 10 list not top 100. I think he means then take a top 100 from everyone's top 10 list, a consensus if you will.

Posted by Brian on Thursday, 10.9.08 @ 13:26pm


I cannot do a top 10 - so here is 20. These are not in any specific order after The Beatles and I have purposely omitted all Blues artists and other early influences:

Beatles
Dylan
The Who
Kinks
Queen
Led Zeppelin
The Clash
The Alice Cooper Band
Cream
Jimi Hendrix Experience
The Ramones
ELP
Black Sabbath
Neil Young
Alice in Chains
Buddy Holly and the Crickets
Bo Didley
Chuck Berry
REM
Zappa and the Mothers of Invention

I admit that this is mostly a subjective point of view.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 10.9.08 @ 17:08pm


Regretabbly, I'm not sure you could really pull this off. For one thing, I know as I mentioned earlier on this page, you'd have to keep the list fluid. If you don't have that, then this list is no better than RS & VH1, and we've really accomplished nothing. It's just a closed cliquish society tossing in their take on it. I am definitely interested, and I'd give you a list of 10, 20, 50, 100, whatever you're looking for, but describe what you're really looking for first.

I'll give you ten TENTATIVE choices I'd put in a top twenty, but none in order till I get a better clue of what you want:

Beatles/Presley/Nirvana/M. Jackson/Ramones

B. Holly/Zeppelin/Van Halen/Radiohead/C. Berry

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10.9.08 @ 19:45pm


I have been following and reading the great post's on this site but have not been posting myself.

After much thought on how to create a better way to honor great rock bands and artist's other than the current Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame I have found this to be very difficult.

I have thought about a way to eliminate emotion and use numbers or statistics similar to how a sports hall of fame does it like using record sales or gold and platinum records or concert attendance. I quickly realized this would not work because of the longevity of a group or artist or the fact that record sales of the sixties can't be compared to today, it's a different world (downloads, file sharing, MP3's etc.) and tours are bigger and last longer. And the fact that there are a whole lot more people on this earth of ours today.

So back to emotion, which I realize is what music is all about it is everything that music is about.

Gitarzan wrote and I quote "People...if this is possible, be objective. No one cares who your favorites are, just who you think are the best!!!

It is impossible to be objective. It is all about who are your favorites and who you like and don't like. I read post's all the time from people trying to convince each other that a band is good or not. Tell Liam Rush is great. He can't be objective he hates Rush and I'm sure has not even heard all of their material and never will but thats okay I probably hate some bands he thinks are the greatest and I have never heard all of their material. Try to convince LAX that Genesis sucks. That is not going to happen they are probably one of his favorites. I don't really care for them and I have never heard all of their material and never will. You can't be objective.

How about this, when you were a teenager there was some band that you thought was the greatest ever and when you listen to them now you think to yourself "what was I thinking this band sucks" I'm sure everyone has experienced that. It's about emotion, how a band makes you feel not how good the musicians are or the quality of their song writing or who they may or may not influence.

I thought about the Rolling Stone List vs the VH1 List and what my list would look like. Then I quickly realized that my list would not include some groups or artists that should definitely be on there just because I don't like them or have just not heard their material. It's about emotion and can't be objective.

As I said in my very first post on this site these lists make me mental. If I am not mistaken Rush is not on either list and Black Sabbath is not on the VH1 list and to me that makes these lists worthless. I think everyone puts Elvis and Bob Dylan at the top because you are supposed to. They wouldn't even be on my list, I hate their music.

There is no science or formula to music it just happens. People like it or hate it or are indifferent to it. What makes a great band? Who knows? It is obvious that everyone on this site is passionate about music, thats for sure. But I bet if you really think about it the opinions are based on emotion and are not objective.

Try making a list that is not safe or what you think everyone else would do. Make a list based on emotion and favorites. Really put some thought into it. What is truly inside you. Don't even refer to the Rolling Stone list or VH1 list. See what you come up with.

SpaceTrucker

"Sweet Emotion"

Aerosmith

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 15:35pm


spacetrucker, that was one of the best comments I have ever read on all the posts here on this site. very well done

Posted by Brian on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 16:09pm


I concur with you also SpaceTrucker. You strike a good chord, sir. If I were to list just my personal Top 10 of Rock, half the readers here would probably laugh at me. I might not list Elvis, Chuck Berry, or the Stones. And I can't even remember a single Rush song either, so immediately I would have a problem with SpaceTrucker.

What is unbearable(?) is the politicking and hype that goes on. This is not emotion for the music, its ego-driven emotion. Suppose thats the inevitable result of human nature at work. But the end result of that is putting marginal artists in the RRHoF while obviously great ones are left out.

The so-called "Immortals" list has validity to the extent that rock afficionados (yes I used that word) had input to it. But consider the source, any motives, whose axe is being grinded, etc. I like to see it as a draft, then do my own personal (emotional) editing of it.

Posted by telarock on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 16:43pm


As per SpaceTrucker - revised list:

Beatles
The Who
Queen
Aerosmith
Cheap Trick
NY Dolls
Led Zep
Def Lep
Alice In Chains
David Bowie

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 17:38pm


Spacetrucker...I understand that for a lot of people it's nearly impossible to be objective. But if you have a lot of people giving their lists, within a list of 100 artists you're going to develop a consensus...some artists are going to keep popping up over and over again, and the cream, whether it's an objective or emotional vote, is going to rise to the top. Some might have a list that every one they mentioned might get perpetually weeded off the top 100 list, while others might have all theirs in the top 10 (not likely, but it could happen).

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 18:20pm


OK,Let's be CLEAR HERE . #61 on your list is INCORRECT. Vh-1 did NOT choose SMOKEY ROBINSON, (The SOLO artist), as one of it's TOP 100 ARTISTS OF ALL TIME . THEY CHOSE Smokey Robinson and THE MIRACLES !!! YOU'RE MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE AS THE RRHOF , AND DOING MOTOWN'S LEGENDARY FIRST GROUP THE SAME INJUSTICE. THE MIRACLES are NOT "SIDE MEN", "BACKUPS", "ET AL" OR "ETC"!! THEY ARE THE MIRACLES , PLAIN AND SIMPLE . I RECORDED THIS TELECAST. I KNOW WHAT IT SAID . YOU ARE GUILTY OF DOING THIS GROUP THE SAME INJUSTICE AND INDIGNITY THAT THE RRHOF IS DOING !!! THE MIRACLES SHOULD NOT , CAN NOT, AND WILL NOT BE RELEGATED TO THE FOOTNOTES OF HISTORY . THEY DESERVE BETTER. Smokey Robinson's name WAS NOT ORIGINALLY PUT IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP . THEY WERE , FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF THEIR EXISTANCE, called "THE MIRACLES", PLAIN AND SIMPLE !!! You included THE PIPS, THE SUPREMES, THE HEARTBRAKERS,and THE FAMILY STONE on your list... and they're "BACKUPS" FOR THEIR STAR LEAD SINGERS !!! THE MIRACLES DESERVE THE SAME CONSIDERATION !!! NOW YOU SEE WHY MIRACLES FANS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE SO UPSET OVER THEIR OMISSION!!! STOP BASHING THE MIRACLES AND STOP EXCLUDING THEM !!! PUT THEIR NAME ON THE LIST WHERE IT BELONGS...AND GO BACK AND WATCH THE PROGRAM.... AGAIN !!! P.S. OH....And ONE MORE THING... unlike some artists...THE MIRACLES ARE ON ROLLING STONE'S, BILLBOARD'S, AND VH-1'S "TOP 100" LISTS... ALL 3 OF THEM !! SO WHY ARE THEY STILL NOT IN THE HALL AFTER OVER 20 YEARS ???

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 18:47pm


This is the reason I suggested that it be done in stages of 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, etc. We all kind of know whose going to wind up in the top 10, top 20, etc. if we're all honest w/each other. The fact is, seeing an already agreed upon top 10 would make everyone recognize who not to vote for over & over again. As the weeks rolled on, you'd be able to see how the consensus opinion does play out. The interesting part will be to see who makes it after the top 30 or so, and how everyone feels about it.

I still suggest that the list (if there is one) be kept open for anyone who comes across it later on. If not, all we did was play an ego game w/ourselves. My suggestion seems both noble & democratic. Of course, Errol Flynn was both noble & democratic when he played Custer in "They Died With Thier Boots On', and he still ended up dead at the end anyway.

With that I remain (sincerely) the noble & democratic Errol (Cheesecrop) Flynn

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 19:16pm


Who thinks the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Committee is being objective?

It reeks of politics and favorites.

For some reason the popular opinion is that Rock and Roll started with Elvis and that he was the greatest ever. Elvis didn't start Rock and Roll, it was around long before he became popular. He was just a tool for getting black music played on white radio. He didn't even write his own material and to me that is a main criteria to consider someone a hall of famer.

How can you ask a 30 year old to consider Elvis and Bob Dylan as being the greatest ever? They were not even born yet.

How many of you that put Elvis and Bob Dylan at the top of your list consistently pop in their CD's and give them a listen?

For me Rock and Roll started in the late 60's. Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware of Elvis, Buddy Holly, The Beatles and so on. But I don't choose to listen to them. For me it starts with the Doors, CCR, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Grand Funk Railroad, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and continues from there. These are the groups that are in my CD collection as well as Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Collective Soul, Queens Of The Stone Age, Priestess, etc. The current Indie Music doesn't rock hard enough for me so it has kind of slowed down for new music for me.

So far the few list's that I have seen from you guys seem to be more honest than politically correct. Look at Dameons list when he was honest with himself Dylan was no longer on it.

I'm not head hunting Elvis or Dylan I am just sick of these list's that have them near or at the top every single time.

My Top 20 List:

Rush
Grand Funk Railroad
Led Zeppelin
Black Sabbath
U.F.O.
Deep Purple
Jimi Hendrix
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Blue Oyster Cult
Captain Beyond (1st Album)
Alice In Chains
Aerosmith
The Cult
Black Label Society
Soundgarden
Jethro Tull
Scorpions
Smashing Pumpkins
Montrose (1st Album)
Rainbow

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 12:59pm


SpaceTrucker...I'm asking you this question in an "objective" way...how much do you really know about Elvis or any of the other true originals? How much have you really looked (and listened) into that particular era of popular music? Granted, Elvis didn't write much...but could it have been HOW he sung the song and put his own totally original brand on it?

You need to go back further and listen to Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc...and find out what made them tick, what it was that made them great. A while back you wanted to define "Rock & Roll"...go back to that era and listen to those songs...you might get your answer.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 14:01pm


Gitarzan,

I get it, the bands you mention, Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Little Richard were all a part of the birth of Rock and Roll in some form. The bands you mention are from the 50's, 60 years ago. Do you expect generation after generation to keep thinking Elvis is king? That is just not going to happen. Every generation has it's own music that they believe to be the best for them.

I don't want to listen to Elvis his music does nothing for me. That's the emotion that liking or disliking a band is all about. This is not a science experiment.

This is what I talked about in another post. You want me to go back and listen to Elvis and like him, I have heard enough Elvis to know that I don't care for his music, what's the problem. If you don't like my list that's okay, I am not going to try to convince you to like it.

I listen to and love music that moves me in some way or another. Maybe I pump my fist or sing along or play air guitar, or drums or bass. If I here Elvis or Buddy or Bob it does nothing for me and that is the beauty of music, different bands affect people differently and to me that is awesome.

To me Rock and Roll is my list.

Would it be better if my list was more like everybody else.

My top 10 list that is safe:

Elvis
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Buddy Holly
Chuck Berry
The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
Little Richard
The Who
Jimi Hendrix
Aretha Franklin

BORING!

SpaceTrucker

"Long live rock, I need it every night"

The Who



Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 16:07pm


SpaceTrucker...you're missing my point, I don't like all of it either! It's not a matter of liking it, it's a matter of learning from it. Back then, it wasn't a matter of "Gee, I think I'll sit down and write a Rock & Roll song". There wasn't a specific template for it. Popular music at the time didn't move certain artists...they looked for a sound that they FELT, way down deep in their soul. It didn't matter what the cost was (ridicule, harsh criticism, etc...), they were going to do it their way. They're the reason the music you love today even exists.

Now, you've got certain artists that you think are more fitting, which is great. I'm glad that the music you love has been able to evolve and perpetuate over the last 50+ years. Every generation or so, an artist or two pops up that everyone knows people will be talking about for generations to come, and there's always a distinct reason why. Artists who reach that status, regardless if I like them or not, will always have my respect. Take the Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan...I've never cared for them much, but I respect what they've accomplished and appreciate their contribution to the music I love. Would they be in my top 10 list...absolutely!!

The history of Rock & Roll is a fascinating subject, so much so it is offered as a course at some colleges. I think a lot of artists today look back on that history and realize they've got some huge shoes to fill. Some are up to the challenge, some aren't. THAT'S what makes it fun...the lists that you've made all make sense, my friend! The lists everyone has made make sense because it moved them...and that's awesome!!!

"Have you heard the news...there's good rockin' tonight"- Elvis

"Hail! Hail, Rock & Roll"- Chuck Berry

"If you can play Rock & Roll, none of it sucks"- "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 17:27pm


Okay Gitarzan,

Really what you are saying is that the immortals list is already set. There are groups or artists that have to be on the top because thats just the way it is. Then why are we asked to make a list?

Really the immortals list is just a historical time line about rock and roll. I just have to decide if Elvis, The Beatles or Bob Dylan should be on top.

Now if you say that one group or artist does not exist without the other than the list should be done in chronological order. How can the Beatles be higher than Elvis if he was first. Doesn't that mean that Rolling Stone liked The Beatles better than Elvis. How can that be because Elvis was first? Isn't it who you like and don't like. If I say Rush is the greatest ever I can't because many other bands came before them.

Top 10 List by who was first:

Muddy Waters (1st recording 1942)
Hank Williams (1st recording 1947)
Fats Domino (1st recording 1949)
Howlin' Wolf (1st recording 1951)
Little Richard (1st recording 1951)
Ray Charles (1st recording 1953)
Elvis Presley (1st recording 1954)
Chuck Berry (1st recording 1955)
Roy Orbison (1st recording 1956)
James Brown (1st recording 1956)
Buddy Holly (1st recording 1957)

SpaceTrucker

"Have you heard the news, there's good rockin' tonight"

Wynonie Harris




Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 19:05pm


SpaceTrucker...did I say the people who did it first did it best?? Who anyone thinks is the best is purely subjective. Did I not say that everyone's list made sense? I personally look at the whole history simply because it all counts!! You're the one saying the early rockers are insignificant simply because you don't like them. I'm a 52 year old guitar player, and over the years my list has changed probably 10-15 times for a variety of reasons, so I guess I'm not so stuck in the 50's, am I? Some artists importance have waned over the years, others have persisted. Like I said before, the Beatles were my first big influence in listening to rock and playing it. I have parents and other relatives who were big-time Elvis fans in the 50's, I was a young teen in the psychedelic era, Hendrix, through Woodstock, and into the era of Led Zeppelin. I grew up with rock & roll, and being a player I was probably more involved that a lot of people. Over the years my musical tastes and interests kept evolving so my "list", if you will, kept changing, but there are a select few who have stood the test of time with me. I can give you a list, but it wouldn't be in any particular order.

Another thing you could say about me is after everything I've experienced in my musical life, I do expect more from today's artists than I seem to get from most of them...their significance will be decided over time, just like everyone who came before them.

Wynonie Harris...yep, THERE'S the version of that song everyone remembers!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 20:48pm


Gitarzan,

I did not say the early boys are not important and of coarse they have their place in history, they are just not my immortals, does that make sense?

My list reflects bands that have moved and influenced me. I wasn't even born when Elvis, Buddy Holly and the rest of these stars were creating all this great music, so I will never know what it was like to be there and feel their influence first hand. Heck Buddy Holly died the year I was born.

You asked me to go back and listen to Elvis. Here is the problem with that. After experiencing amazing, powerful music from Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Rush and so on, when I listen to an Elvis or Buddy recording it seems so innocent and weak that I just can't relate. Again I respect their innovation, pioneering and achievements in Rock and Roll history they are immortals just not my immortals.

The first time I heard Good Rockin' Tonight it was done by Montrose on their first album and I thought it was an original for the longest time. But after some research I realized how wrong I was. I was blown away when I found out it was first recorded in 1947 by Wynonie Harris.

Maybe I will dust off my 1972 Ludwig Drum Kit and we can kick out some jams.

SpaceTrucker

"What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound, it's got wires that vibrate and give music, what can this thing be that I've found?

Rush

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 22:22pm


Awesome dialogue here, and I want to get in on it. Trucker's completely right when he says a thirty year old can't be expected to say Presley should even be considered amongst the immortals, inasmuch as they never engaged his work in any palpable way. The same can be said about everyone in the 60's and 70's as well, though. In fact, a thirty year old today would have no real active memory of rock until the mid-to-late 80's, technically. Their frame of reference would start probably w/the back end of hair metal, run through Seattle in the teen yrs., rap-rock/nu-metal in college, and emo in their mid-to-late 20's (if they were still bothering to listen). Someone whose ten years younger doesn't even have the 90's as a frame of reference. For those folks it's all modern, and that's the way it should be.

Should young folk go back & listen to the decades of the past? Absolutely. However, they should have the right to call it as they see it as well. If they see something that we didn't they've the right to say it, even if it upsets us to any degree. In their minds, Edison Lighthouse might be better than Sabbath, Taylor Dayne might be better than Def Lep, and Ace of Base might be better than Alice in Chains. More power to them if they frustrate the heck out of us. We might end up w/a diff. take on it ourselves.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 07:54am


Cheesecrop & SpaceTrucker...that's all I'm saying really. It really is hard to understand things like the social atmosphere and so on unless you were actually there. when I was in my early teens I didn't realize what all the fuss was about the early rockers, either. I was a big-time Beatles fan. I'm in total agreement with the idea that everyone should have their artists they consider immortals.

Music and social consciousness have gone hand in hand since the advent of recorded music. I think Rock music was probably the first form of music that actually had a social impact, instead of music adapting to the social climate, and it has continued to do so. It wasn't until later in life that I really became aware of that. Elvis, Buddy & Co. may seem bland and innocent today, but back then...yikes!!! Shoot, Led Zeppelin & AC/DC seem bland compared to some of the real hard rockers today.

The wonderful thing about it is there are 6 billion people on this planet and we're all different. My idea of a "greatest rockers" list was to have everyone throw 10 names in...in no particular order. Now, if we were all the same, the list wouldn't get past 10...THAT would be boring! after all the perpetual "weeding out" and so on, after a length of time I'd simply be curious to see what names ended up in the top 10...whose names popped up the most. I think with people like us adding out input, that list would be vastly different than VH-1's or Rolling Stone's....and I think that would be cool!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 08:57am


Thanks for jumping in Cheeseman, I was beginning to think this was only important to Gitarzan and myself and I truly think our conversation is the meat and bones of this website and the Rock and Roll Half of Fame.

The history of Rock and Roll is set in stone it can't be ignored and isn't but when someone has a favorite group or artist, that is their own history that they lived through and will relate to the rest of their life, it is the most important musical history to them. The most awesome thing is the history of Rock and Roll is still being written.

Even though I have said these list's make me mental, I do love them.

My point being lets be totally honest about our choices and don't just pick the top ten because that is what you think everyone else will pick. Choose with your heart and emotion. There are no rules as to who you think your musical immortals are. If everyone participates honestly the list may blow our minds, who knows maybe a whole new top ten will emerge and to me that is exciting and refreshing.

Power To The People!

SpaceTrucker

"He knows changes aren't permanent, but change is"

Rush

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 11:24am


okay guys, yor wearin yorselves out with this back and forth stuff. and I've actually read most of yor dialague, so I'm gettin worn as well. Lemme sum this up for yall.

SpaceTruck, yor a dude who subscribes purely to feel/emotion when appraising great music - call you an "emotionalist" for lack of a term.

Gitarman, you put give weight to the historical aspects - call you a "historogist"? You think there's something in it for being an early pioneer, one of the founding movement.

Heres what Telarock sez - neither one of you is wrong. (argh, that's weak!) I already voiced support for SpaceTrucker earlier - see: (telarock on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 16:43pm) but now I'm gonna disagree with him somewhat. Gitar is right about the need to respect history. You may not personally dig Elvis or Chuck Berry, but millions of fans from their era were not wrong. And let Rush go "back to the future" and folks back then might not have understood them a wit.

I say let the early pioneers have more "weight." That's the way of things - its historical. You wanna compare any modern US president to Lincoln? forget it. Compare Rush to Elvis? forget that too. Common sense and practice is to recognize more strongly the work of the early masters.

Posted by telarock on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 18:35pm


I say let the early pioneers have more "weight." That's the way of things - its historical. You wanna compare any modern US president to Lincoln? forget it. Compare Rush to Elvis? forget that too. Common sense and practice is to recognize more strongly the work of the early masters.

Posted by telarock on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 18:35pm
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Ironically enough, I go in the completely opposite directon here. When it comes to what is in essence a youth music, the work of the early masters should be constantly questioned. It is the reason I suggest a fluid list - new generations MUST have the opportunity to re-evaluate those from the past. Rock & Roll is the only place in modern culture where historical "weight" runs backwards.

Perhaps I should clarify my take on the Beatles to explain this fully. Despite what I said, I really do believe the Fabs are THE #1 band - right now. I believe in theory that any day could produce the band that will top them, but for right now they are still numero uno. I do not believe their influence is nearly as big today as some might make it out to be - in my book they have been losing that at a steady rate (ex. 100% down to 90% down to 80% as the years have rolled on). There sum influence today is well below 50%. That being said, they WERE the central point of reference for longer than any other band till this minute, and as such should be given the #1 spot. This is why I dislike being pinned down to a single list - I mentioned some acts to calm Mike down, but that was really it. When I put down ten potentials out of 20, I really meant that - some of them weren't in my own top 10. I'm not sure I like the idea of pinning myself down to anything so open as this.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 10.12.08 @ 20:46pm


"Rock & Roll is the only place in modern culture where historical "weight" runs backwards." -Cheesecrop
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I understand yor rationale for this. And btw, I agree, Beatles are still #1 on the list. Still, lets keep in mind the RRHoF is a museum. Its a means of preserving rock history. Washington was 1st US president, so his place in US history should always be secure. Schoolkids today only know who he is because they look at History, not the other way around.

If music history was reckoned backwards, we probly wouldn't even be talking bout "rock", the operative word might be "hip-hop". Then the argument would be that rock was born out of hip-hop? I know it gets convoluted.

Its not up to succeeding generations to rewrite history, the idea is they need to learn from it.

Posted by Telarock on Monday, 10.13.08 @ 07:54am


Tela -

I can see where I completely messed up in what I wrote yesterday. First, I was under the impression we were talking about a potential list for this site. When it comes to the museum, I couldn't say anything about that, even if I wanted to.

Let me toss out an example or two of what I meant when I talked about rewriting history. In the 70's rock critics savaged Zep and Sab, saying that the stuff would never hold up compared to Elton John, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Jackson Browne, and the like. Yet the Gen X kids proved them wrong. Much of the layout for the Sunset Strip and Seattle came from music viewed as a cipher in the past, and older critics just got grumpy over it while wondering how the genius that was mainstream 70's rock could be ingnored.

I was equally caught off-guard when it became obvious in this decade that Green Day & Weezer were the two bands that kids were drawing inspiration from. If you asked me this 15 yrs ago I would have said Nirvana & Pearl Jam would still be the mainstays for that. I've nothing against either act, but I know whatever mysterious infatuation running through the kids regarding these acts is, it escaped my notice the first time round. It's quite clear I am in the same boat as the critic who saw the clear superiortiy of Stevie Nicks as opposed to Robert Plant, but couldn't get it through my thick skull circa 87 as to why this was.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 10.13.08 @ 17:28pm


Well, I do not have a listing of whom I think are the 100 Greatest Rock Artists in my personal opinion.

I do want to state, however, that of the two lists given, I have albums, DVDs, and downloaded songs from the following:

The Beatles
John Lennon
Sir Paul McCartney
Sir Elton John
Pink Floyd
The Police
Sting
Peter Gabriel
Patti Smith
Earth, Wind and Fire
Roxy Music
Public Enemy
Neil Young
David Crosby, Stephen Stills, and Graham Nash
Queen
The Band
The Beach Boys
Tom Waits
Frank Zappa
The Byrds
Radiohead
The Beastie Boys (despite no individuality)
Traffic/Steve Winwood

And that is just a main sampling. I am certain to think of others as the times go on.

Make of this what you will,

Lax25

Posted by Lax25 on Monday, 10.13.08 @ 17:58pm


Lax, your not serious about McCartney, Elton John and Patti Smith?

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Monday, 10.13.08 @ 18:21pm


To Cheesecloth:
Not wanting to have the "last word", but just to clarify - yor right, the topic is really these Top 100 lists, not the RRHoF per se. But the listmakers do presume also to be writers of rock history.

And I agree also, history is dynamic. It doesn't change, but each succeeding generation adds their own pieces, and then we must go back and re-sort things. The sands of time begin to show some groups left bigger "footprints" (e.g. Led Zep) than people realized at the time.

My main point is that the later footprints should not wipe out the earlier ones - at least not if we value the history. Do you know it was only recently that a 3rd photo of Robert Johnson was found - there had only been 2 before. Fortunately he did leave behind many recordings before his mysterious death (circa 1939). Clapton got hold of those recordings and was so impressed by them he proclaimed Robert Johnson "the most important blues musician who ever lived" - and Eric Clapton has a lot of credibility in that regard.

I certainly don't claim to be an expert. I guess we are all the world's greatest experts on "What I Like", which is why we can each make up our own lists and claim to be right. But remember Robert Johnson never had a Fender electric guitar, and never "stood on the shoulders of giants" (men who came before him) to see how to refine his craft. "Crossroads" was a Johnson song - you know he was a big-time influence on Clapton. That's why I think the old-timers should be given slightly more weight when making these lists.

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 21:29pm


y main point is that the later footprints should not wipe out the earlier ones - at least not if we value the history. Do you know it was only recently that a 3rd photo of Robert Johnson was found - there had only been 2 before. Fortunately he did leave behind many recordings before his mysterious death (circa 1939). Clapton got hold of those recordings and was so impressed by them he proclaimed Robert Johnson "the most important blues musician who ever lived"


I agree Telarock... Johnson and many of the other "OLD TIMERS".. It is not always how much you did or sold but what you did. From the one hit wonders to the old timers and the true rocks of rock and roll..Many other Rock Stars were at best just copy cats with Hollywood Hype $$$$$$$$$$

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 21:56pm


And I agree also, history is dynamic. It doesn't change, but each succeeding generation adds their own pieces, and then we must go back and re-sort things. The sands of time begin to show some groups left bigger "footprints" (e.g. Led Zep) than people realized at the time.

My main point is that the later footprints should not wipe out the earlier ones - at least not if we value the history.

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 21:29pm
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Finally! Somebody got where I was going w/this. I DO agree w/you that earlier footprints should not be wiped out. I've always felt that it should be noted how succeeding generations of fans felt about an act in relation to their (the fans) future times. I do value the history; that's never been my argument. It was always about future interpretations, and the fear of any re-assessment being plowed over by frightened fans who forgot that rock should un-settle their notions over time.

btw - I loved the Cheesecloth bit.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 05:55am


THE MIRACLES are RANKED HIGHER than ALL OF THE OTHER TOP MOTOWN GROUPS on BOTH OF THESE LISTS.... THE SUPREMES, THE TEMPTATIONS, THE FOUR TOPS, GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS, AND MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS....SO, WHY ARE ALL OF THESE GROUPS INDUCTED...WHILE THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ??

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 07:07am


Bill G.,

You are very determined on behalf of the Miracles, which is noble and right. But you surely know yourself the hard answer to your question. The RHOF deemed to separate Smokey from the Miracles. Then they inducted him as a solo artist.

I checked and 8 of 10 of Smokey Robinson's "essential" songs are songs done while lead singer in the Miracles. But I doubt if the RHOF would now be inclined to make a separate induction of the Miracles. Think your best strategy is to get the RHOF to amend(?) Smokey's induction to include "& The Miracles." If you were able to get Smokey himself onboard with that idea, it should certainly be possible. Would he?

I think you should take your case directly to Smokey Robinson. You could write 50,000 words on this site and might just be wasting your time (sorry, people might agree, but nobody here can actually DO anything). If yor serious about this, go straight on to Smokey and convince HIM to do what you think is right.

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 16:42pm


Hi, Telarock. I understand and agree what you're saying, but consider this:
The RRHOF inducted THE IMPRESSIONS and Curtis Mayfield separately;

THE JACKSON FIVE and Michael separately;

THE BEATLES and 3 of their individual members separately

....And ERIC CLAPTON 3 times.

and this comimg year, if LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS are inducted...

SAMMY STRAIN will be a DOUBLE INDUCTEE...HE STARTED with THE IMPERIALS many years ago(LATE 50'S / EARLY 60'S)...SANG WITH,AND WAS A MEMBER OF THE O'JAYS from '76 until 1992...WAS INDUCTED AS A MEMBER...
AND THEN, RETURNED TO THE IMPERIALS IN 1992...AND SANG WITH THEM UNTIL HE RETIRED IN '04.
JOHNNY CARTER WAS ALSO INDUCTED TWICE...AS A MEMBER OF THE DELLS... AND THE FLAMINGOS.

So as you can see, the RRHOF has ALREADY set precedents for artists to be inducted more than once YEARS AGO. All they have to do is induct SMOKEY TWICE....This time WITH the MIRACLES.
Smokey recieved a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME many years ago....Now , in early 2009, THE MIRACLES as a GROUP wil be honored....which means he'll be a DOUBLE HONOREE.
There's no reason the RRHOF can't do the SAME THING.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 03:01am


Bill G.,

You got me caught up in this thing now, but thats okay, cause its an interesting case.

You essentially are going for a dual induction of Smokey (one w/Miracles, one w/o), and there are several precedents for that. The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield is a good example (so I looked into it). The major difference is that The Impressions went in first as a group (1991), then Curtis went in as a soloist (1999). That's the order that should have gone down with The Miracles and Smokey. But having Smokey go in first as a soloist (1987) makes it now difficult to get The Miracles to complete the dual induction. Of course you know all that (but readers here maybe dont).

Now there is one other major hitch. ICO The Impressions, the 10 "essential" songs listed are all different ones than the 10 given for Curtis as a soloist - altogether 20 different songs given ICO that dual induction.

Of the 10 essential songs given for Smokey Robinson, 8 of them are with The Miracles, 2 of them w/o. Its a jumbled situation. I still think you should go and work this out with Smokey Robinson - when they get together for the Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame, that would be a good opportunity?

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 11:30am


On afterthought, there one more important variable. The Miracles continued on with new lead singer after Smokey left, and had at least one major hit song "Love Machine." So when you bring up the dual induction idea, perhaps you mean to induct The Miracles as a free-standing group (not with Smokey Robinson's name in front)? That makes the problem even more difficult.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 11:55am


for once in my life, i agree with rolling stone magazine OVER another publication. VH1's list is clearly not as good as rolling stone's... because the Velvet Underground is much too low, and Crosby Stills and Nash are much too high. Plus, how could the sex pistols top the Ramones? They are both great bands, but Ramones win for me. Now, the one thing VH1 got right, is they at least listed Pink Floyd. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and Rolling Stone Magazine, seem to skip over the entire Prog. Movement in the seventies, like it never happened. All in all, no, that movement wasn't that influential, and didn't start up a bunch of new bands and it kind of got old, hence why punk had to come out and save us all from monotony. But, They were great artists in that group of drab bands (rush, Pink Floyd, Yes) who all deserve induction, and at least pink Floyd should be mentioned on this list.

Posted by Calzone on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 17:42pm


....Not really, Telarock. Because "THE MIRACLES" (minus Smokey's name up front), was the group's ORIGINAL NAME ANYWAY ....for the first 10 years !! If you can, pick up a copy of THE MIRACLES' MOTOWN 2006 "Definitive DVD".(It's available on AMAZON & EBAY.). 3 of the Miracles are interviewed, Smokey,Bobby ,and Pete. During the 70 minute interview,they mentioned that the only reason Motown head BERRY GORDY changed ther name was because MOTOWN'S market research revealed that whenever a lead singer's name was put in front of a group, that group made more money for performance fees,because the audience could more greatly identify with that lead singer.The SUPREMES and VANDELLAS NAMES WERE CHANGED FOR THE SAME REASON. However , Smokey made it clear during the interview that, while the group's earnings increased, he NEVER made any MORE OR LESS money than the other MIRACLES. All of the group members made an EQUAL SHARE for royalties and personal appearences.As to your other question , their song "DO IT BABY" was also a million-seller and peaked at #13 pop on the BILLBOARD HOT 100 (YOU CAN SEE THEM PERFORMING IT ON THE DVD ,AND ON YOUTUBE) .AND "DONT'CHA LOVE IT" went Top 10 R&B .They had six other charting singles as well.Smokey had MORE AND BIGGER HITS WITH the MIRACLES, than he did by himself . Also ,Their song LOVE MACHINE (featuring Smokey's replacement ,BILLY GRIFFIN hit #1 POP. Smokey HASN'T hit #1 as a solo artist....The closest he came was with "BEING WITH YOU",which reached #2. Please do me a favor. When you get a chance, go to WIKIPEDIA, and look up "THE MIRACLES" (Yes, that's how they're listed) Read the article...and let me know if what you read , in your opinion,qualifies them for RRHOF induction or not. Then look up THE RONETTES and PERCY SLEDGE (both inducted)...compare them to THE MIRACLES ... AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. Thanks.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 18:34pm


Okay, have done the research. Forget the comparisons to other groups (only gets you sidetracked).

Let's say you are right, and The Miracles deserve to be nominated as a free-standing group, which probably will necessitate a rewrite of Smokey Robinson's solo induction - because you are NOT advocating for a group called "Smokey Robinson and The Miracles" your case is for the group called "THE MIRACLES." (Hope that at least defines your argument correctly.) What would be the steps needed for that outcome?

We both would allow that Smokey Robinson does belong in the RHOF as a solo inductee. He did 25 solo albums and had solo hit songs, as well as doing a lot of writing and production work with Motown.

If the committee nominated The Miracles, you would have it be on the same basis as say, The Temptations, w/o any lead billing. You want both Smokey and Billy Griffin listed simply as individuals of the one group. There's no problem with that logic that I can see.

The problem is that induction is a voting process. Smokey Robinson was already voted in with 8 of 10 of his essential songs being the group's songs. How you gonna reset that? Just getting ONCE through the nominating committee is like running a gauntlet of rottweilers, and having to wear bacon pants! (something I heard ... mayby not funny?) Point is, you need to look for a way around that whole process. The only way I know is to get Smokey Robinson involved. Get HIM on board.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 21:13pm


The fact of the matter is ,the RRHOF violated THEIR OWN RULE by inducting SMOKEY as a SOLO ARTIST IN 1987. SMOKEY NEVER RECORDED A SINGLE SONG AS A SOLO ARTIST PRIOR TO 1972. His ENTIRE RECORDED OUTPUT from the beginning of his career (1957) until 1972 was as a member of THE MIRACLES.Counting forward from that year ,the year of his first solo recording ,25 years forward, he WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFYED AS A SOLO ARTIST UNTIL 1997, NOT 1987, the year he WAS inducted. This is what happened to CURTIS MAYFIELD, which is why THE IMPRESSIONS were inducted FIRST, THEN CURTIS LATER . THE MIRACLES as a GROUP,however, qualified in the VERY FIRST YEAR of RRHOF inductions,1987,as they had been around 30 years by then. This controversy concerning THE MIRACLES and the RRHOF has recieved significant attention on SIRIUS radio in recent weeks. The question is...are they going to do the right thing ,and AMEND their mistake...or are they going to continue to ignore MOTOWN'S legendary FIRST GROUP...AND REFUSE TO INDUCT THEM AT ALL ? SMOKEY DIDN'T WRITE ALL OF THOSE HITS BY HIMSELF...one look at the records will prove THAT. (Robinson,Rogers,Moore,White, Tarplin)...AND..The OTHER inducted MOTOWN groups DIDN'T WRITE ANY....but THEY'RE IN...and THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ?? What distorted logic dictated THAT ? It's not like The Miracles were BACKUPS OR SIDEMEN...like THE E-STREET BAND OR THE COMETS. They were all one cohesive group... and SMOKEY WAS JUST A MEMBER , LIKE ALL OF THE OTHERS. Even the decision to make him lead singer in THE FIRST PLACE WAS A GROUP DECISION !! THE RRHOF VIOLATED ALL OF THEIR OWN RULES IN ORCHESTRATING THIS FARCE...Maybe one day they'll make it right. I don't know if SMOKEY can do it all himself,but ,if he has any power at all to do so , he should . He has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. At the very least, the other Miracles,BOBBY,RONNIE,PETE, CLAUDETTE,MARV, AND BILLY,WILL BE IN. At the very MOST, HE'LL BE A DOUBLE INDUCTEE. Not a bad feather to put in your cap, right ?

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 13:45pm


THE RRHOF VIOLATED ALL OF THEIR OWN RULES IN ORCHESTRATING THIS FARCE...Maybe one day they'll make it right. I don't know if SMOKEY can do it all himself,but ,if he has any power at all to do so , he should . He has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.
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Bill, now you/we r at least coming near a solution, which is good - this thread has gotten very long. (FYI, I have my own particular favorite artists to promote.) Now if indeed Smokey Robinson has nothing to lose, may in fact gain from it, he should speak up. Afterall, he is on the inside. He's a member of the RHOF club. He is empowered "to make it right."

If HE comes forward and says The Miracles should be in the RHOF, the governors will certainly listen. If he stays mute, that ironically speaks loud (against yor cause). The easiest thing would be to amend Smokey Robinson's induction to be "Smokey Robinson & The Miracles." (what happens then with Billy Griffin?) Any other solution is harder because it would likely require the whole vote process. I can't imagine Smokey would agree to remove his name? And I don't think you can just instate The Miracles as a new entity - not without voting? True, Smokey Robinson shouldn't mind because he would then be as you said a double inductee. But this latter option, the one you favor, doesn't go down well. At least not with me. Because then you would have two separate entities inducted by virtue of only one election.

Its a hard knot. But what I suggest (humbly) for you to do is to define a clear-cut course of action. Take into account what is reasonable and what is feasible. (Don't curse the darkness, light a candle.) Put together a plan and get after the people who can DO something. I'm not saying you will have your way in the end. I haven't even heard the other side of the story in this case. Does anybody out there have another side to this?

No more railing here please, Bill. We've covered this and now we understand your whole point. Go and crash down your argument on the right people!

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 16:34pm


Bill, as usual, am having an afterthought. Because its a fresh new induction of "The Miracles" you seek, you probably need to get that through the nominating committee. I've had some experience in doing that - its a tuff nut to crack! Even if you could get The Miracles nominated in the regular way (a real Miracle it might be), you still need to get them elected. That's why it makes sense (to me) to go for the amendment "& The Miracles". Seems to be that's what you wanted back in 1987?

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 17:12pm


I stand corrected on a great deal of the facts, Bill G.

I need to poitnout, though, a few things. Gladys Knight and Martha Reeves were essentially inducted on their own: it just felt right to include the Vendellas and the Pips as well considering the inseperable nature presented. As well, there is a difference of opinion in regards to if it is the Supremes or Diana Ross and the Supremes as it became widely known. On that matter, Diana Ross may already be inducted on her own accord then.

Regarding the Miracles, it is possible that the ship has sailed for a seperate induction. We all know that Smokey Robinson is inducted; it therefore entails that his entire works and writings are included. And that does include the Miracles songs and albums.

Why, then, would Robinson need to be inducted again, only this time with a group? As well, I doubt the induction in 1987 of Smokey Robinson would be amended to include the Miracles 21 years after the fact.

Look, if you get one singular individual inducted into the RRHOF, either as only themselves or after a group induction, that ends all matters of induction. For instance, Eric Clapton is not going to be inducted for the fourth time to accomodate Derek and the Dominoes. That was for all purposes Clapton, and Eric Clapton was inducted on his own in 2000.

Likewise, my lobbying efforts have been used to campaign for the eventual induction of Peter Gabriel on his own accord primarily. I am of the inference that Gabriel will be inducted liekly in a special acheivement format for the Class of 2009: this would include the classic lineup of Genesis and each members' individual works, particulary Gabriel, Steve Hackett and Tony Banks. Now, Gabriel could also go in as a non-performer which may be a stretch. If not this time, then Gabriel is a shoo-in for 2010 in the Performers Category.

Now then, when Peter Gabriel does get inducted on his own accord, that will be the end of the matter for his induction. By every inference and knowledge given, Gabriel is the lock for induction in the Genesis tree. Now, my preference would be for a special acheivement induction format that would include the Genesis works and the entire individual works of the classic lineup, or at least its main figures. Yet, even if an induction goes only for Peter Gabriel, his Genesis songs and recordings are included for induction. Thus, Genesis from inception through 1975 will be inducted: it will be either with Peter Gabriel, or in the special acheivement format.

In another point, Lionel Richie may likely be inducted in the near future, hopefully by 2010. A Richie induction will include the songs and recordings of the Commodores from inception through 1981. Much like the Smokey Robinson edict, the Hall of Fame has more reason to induct Lionel Richie on his own, and eschew inducting the Commodores in the group format. And frankly, Richie would in all likelihood prefer it this way; it is his own induction eventually.

To note, it is a great honor to be inducted into the RRHOF with a group. To be inducted as an individual, notably after a group induction, is much sweeter and revered. And to be inducted with a group after being inducted on your own is rather odd. Neil Young, for instance, was inducted in 1995, then with Buffalo Springfield was inducted again in 1997. Young was at the ceremonies in 1995. He was not there two years later. In the next two or so years, Sting will be considered and likely inducted for his individual works. I can guarentee you that Sting might look forward to that induction, as opposed to being content with going in with the Police.

Thus, Smokey Robinson, in my belief, is more content being inducted on his own. Lionel Richie will be inducted on his own. And out of all branches of the Genesis tree, Peter Gabriel will be the one that is certain to be inducted, likely in a special acheivement form with his bandmates in 2009; though other processes may take place.

Hope this clarfies some words,

Lax25

Posted by Lax25 on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 19:14pm


R.I.P. to LEVI STUBBS...The powerhouse original lead singer of Motown Superstar group (and RRHOFamers THE FOUR TOPS , died yesterday at the age of 72 (1936-2008) The man whose lesd voice gave us several million selling hits, such as:
"BERNADETTE"
"BABY I NEED YOUR LOVING"
"SUGAR PIE HONEY BUNCH (I CAN'T MYSELF)"
"AIN'T NO WOMAN LIKE THE ONE I'VE GOT"
"IT'S THE SAME OLD SONG"
"STANDING IN THE SHADOWS OF LOVE"
"KEEPER OF THE CASTLE"
"REACH OUT ILL BE THERE"
"WHEN SHE WAS MY GIRL"
"STILL WATERS RUN DEEP"
"SHAKE ME , WAKE ME"...and many more. this leaves DUKE FAKIR as the only surviving original member , as REYNALDO "OBIE" BENSON died 4 years ago, and LAWRENCE PAYTON back in 1996.
THE FOUR TOPS stayed together for an incredible 44 years WITH ALL OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS...A RECORD STILL UNMATCHED TODAY.
Condolences to THE STUBBS FAMILY, TO DUKE, AND TO THE ENTIRE MOTOWN FAMILY.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 10.18.08 @ 09:17am


have put up this comment on the "Blender top 100 albums" discussion, but its worth repeating.

since futurerockhall is putting up lists, here's another for consideration: Billboard Hot 100 Artists of All-time?

the list has a LOT of credibility given that it is based on 50 years of what people actually listened too! ... as opposed to Jann Wenner imposed ideas of who is "Immortal", or, who he and his toadies deem "important". having hit songs should NOT be a knock on any artist.

no wonder Hall & Oates are mad at the Hall ... btw, do you know John Hall & Darryl Oates gave the induction speech for Smokey Robinson?

Posted by benny on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 11:03am


benny -- we're actually planning on highlighting the Billboard list next. Should be up this week.

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 11:30am


Benny, I'm sure it was just a brain fart, but rather than: ' btw, do you know John Hall & Darryl Oates gave the induction speech for Smokey Robinson?'

It is Darryl Hall & John Oates.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 12:18pm


8) haha ... thanks for the correction Paul.
and thanks Future Rock for the new posting, have already checked it out.

Posted by benny on Tuesday, 10.21.08 @ 10:47am


Benny,

There is a musician named John Hall who became a New York Congressman. John Hall was a founding member of the band Orleans ("Dance With Me," "Still The One") and wrote "Half Moon" which appeared as the fourth track on Janis Joplin's "Pearl" (All three aforementioned songs were co-written with his wife Johanna) In addition, John Hall was the organizer for the "No Nukes" concerts.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 10.21.08 @ 14:11pm


The only artists on Future Rock Hall that have a written explanation to why they have not been inducted:

Quincy Jones, The Monkees and KISS! Anyone else?

Quincy Jones:

Arguably the Rock Hall's biggest "Non-Performer" snub. Amazing he hasn't been enshrined yet.

The Monkees:

While the Monkees have legions of fans to this day, it seems unlikely that they will ever be inducted into the Rock Hall since they have been eligible since 1991. Critics never afforded the Monkees much respect since they were basically put together for a tv show. I wonder what this could mean for all of the American Idol winners?

KISS

Most fans are able to recognize the impact that KISS has made on rock and roll, so it's puzzling that they have yet to even be nominated for the Rock Hall. A big reason they're on the outside could be music critic and Rock Hall nominating committee member, Dave Marsh, who once said:

Kiss is not a great band, Kiss was never a great band, Kiss never will be a great band, and I have done my share to keep them off the ballot.
With that kind of prejudice, it's no wonder that Paul Stanley has become bitter about the Rock Hall in general:

The beauty of America is that you can basically start any kind of private club you want to. This one happens to be called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's a very impressive name for a club but it's an illusion. It's the creation of a group of industry people and critics who decide who they deem as qualified to be in their little admiration society. It's their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but it's not the people's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Have you ever voted? I know I haven't. That's why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, besides having people who very much belong in there, have an abundance of people who most people will scratch their head and not even have a clue who they are. I don't have anything against anybody who's been inducted, but more than a couple of them are a joke. A band or musician's impact is measured by how they change and influence society and other musicians. That and how many albums and concert tickets they sell should be what gets them into the Hall of Fame. As far as I'm concerned it's a private club with a misleading name. It's a sham.

KISS are one of those bands that have gone through their entire career without much critical acclaim or industry awards, but have legions of fans who couldn't care less.

Fans can rest assured that the KISS legacy will live on whether they are recognized by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame or not. (7.19.06)

Madonna (Inducted in 2008)

Madonna released her first single, "Everybody", back in 1982, which makes her eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame next year. Since she's a virtual lock for induction, it's really just a matter of which year the Nominating Committee will submit her name for a vote.

The closest parallel to Madonna's worldwide stardom could be Michael Jackson. Michael released his first solo material in 1972 and he didn't get inducted as a solo artist until 2001, a full 4 years after he was first eligible. Jackson did get in the first time he was nominated, but what took the Nominating Committee so long? Okay, so maybe there were some other outside factors involved with Michael. Let's use Prince as an example. Prince was eligible in 2003, but he didn't even make the ballot that year for some unknown reason. The following year, he was promptly inducted.

So what does all this mean for Madonna? Well, unless she has told the Nominating Committee that she is unavailable next March for the induction ceremony (and let's not forget the TV show), because she's on tour or has a Kabbalah lesson scheduled for that night, she should be one of the 2007 inductees.

But wait, you say that Madonna isn't "rock", so she shouldn't even be eligible in the first place? Well, the Rock Hall doesn't say in it's eligibility rules that you must play rock music, just that you "have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll." And I doubt anyone would deny Madonna that. (07.16.2006)


Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.22.08 @ 08:35am


the Rock Hall doesn't say in it's eligibility rules that you must play rock music, just that you "have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll." - Roy

Roy, hope you meant that tongue-in-cheek. to be in the RHOF Performer category it goes w/o saying you must perform rock music.
Q: did Madonna?
A: I wouldn't argue against her, but would have made her at least wait a few years.

Posted by benny on Wednesday, 10.22.08 @ 16:17pm


Lax25,

Dire Straits have never been discussed by the Nominating Committee, though eligible since 2003/2004. (I must state it is a remarkable coincidence that the highest never-discussed artist on the VH1 list is #101)!

Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Wednesday, 10.22.08 @ 17:24pm


Talk about a popularity contest. Pioneers get the shaft, imitators get the gold. Where are The Replacements??? Paul Westerberg is the greatest songwriter on the planet right now. The Replacements were playing "alternative" music 15 years before it was popular and influenced about every "alternative" band in the 90's.

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10.23.08 @ 00:22am


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Posted by Diggo on Wednesday, 10.29.08 @ 01:26am


I'm familiar with a certain band Rolling Stone might of heard of them. What's their name again? Oh yeah... PINK FLOYD!!! Why aren't they on the list?

Posted by Grey on Tuesday, 11.4.08 @ 13:19pm


nivarna!!!!!
HA!!

they were a one hit wonder ... mainly because their guitarist could only that one song before he went and died

Posted by DeeJay on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 09:58am


"nivarna!!!!!
HA!!

they were a one hit wonder ... mainly because their guitarist could only that one song before he went and died"-DeeJay

Firstly, if you're going to talk about a band, spell it correctly. Secondly, look up the definition of a "one hit wonder" (you were off by about eight). Thirdly, please try to remember what you're typing and don't blank out mid-sentence and then pick back up a few words later (I'm referring to the lack of what was likely intended to be the word "record" between "only" and "that"). Fourthly, make an attempt to capitalize and punctuate properly. Fifth and finally, don't post it twice.

Thank you for your time.

Posted by William on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 13:06pm


Anyone seen the retarded Rolling Stones Top 100 Rock and Roll Singers of all time?

Holy Shit!

Rolling Stone Magazine and it's Rock and Roll Hall Of Shame has lost all credibility.

Wenner and the boys are in an acid laced pot smoking haze of the 60's.

Aretha Franklin #1

What a joke! Anything for publicity I guess.

SpaceTrucker

"Waiting for the winds of change to sweep the clouds away, waiting for the rainbows end to cast it's gold your way"
Rush

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 11:20am


So, spacetrucker, who should be number 1 in your opinion? Aretha is not a bad choice.

Are you suggesting Geddy Lee with your signatuer? good luck there.

Posted by Adam on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 11:33am


Geddy Lee, not a chance. I love Rush but Geddy is not a great singer.

You think after all the great rock singers that have been around since Aretha that she is the best ever?

She doesn't even perform rock, she sings R&B and Soul, but that is another topic.

These list's are stupid thier is no greatest rock singer ever.

This list is so dumb they put Bob (I couldn't sing if my life depended on it) Dylan at #7.

SpaceTrucker

"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice"
Rush

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 13:12pm


I just got a look at the 'greatest singers" list, and I am shocked, to say the least. I have no problem w/Aretha Franklin being in the top ten - I'm not sue about #1, but anythings debatable. What gets me is the listing of three singers in particular - Lennon, Dylan, and Brown - in the top ten. We all know RS has their favorite pets, but if you're going to talk about straight out simple vocal quality, there are others who have to be mentioned.

I might put the man at #13, Roy Orbison, at #1. I'm not a fan of everything he did, but his voice is so awesome that outside of Chris Isaak's attempt at imitation? emulation? I cant think of anyone else trying to match him.

Some others not in the top 10, who could, for my money, be thereif you wanted to play around with this:

Freddy Mercury - 18
Jackie Wilson - 26
Howlin Wolf - 31
Bono - 32
Jim Morrison- 47
John Fogerty - 72

In addition, Janis Joplin (lol) is in the 30's, and Grace Slick is nowhere! I don't care about the image, the hype, the whole story that goes around her, Slick could sing her under the table any day of the week! I don't say Joplin didn't have a voice - she did, but it had limitations. To put it in perspective, Cobain is at 45, and Axl's at 64, I believe. Many complain Kurt had a limited voice, yet he's ahead of Axl, who has often been referred to right alongside Joplin, style wise. Yet Grace Slick, who has a better pure voice, is nowhere to be found. Are people ahead of one another cause they've got a better story? If it is, maybe that explains Lennon, Dylan, and Brown at the beginning.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 17:21pm


The best pure rock & roll singer ever, in my opinion, had to be Elvis Presley...I can't even think of anyone who comes close. He could get down and dirty, he could be soulful, and he could sing exceptional ballads. Take songs like "Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock" and compare them to a song like "It's Now Or Never"...just incredible range.

Cheesecrop...Roy Orbison was a great singer, but he was pretty much a tenor. His range simply didn't compare to Presley's. For that matter, Aretha Franklin doesn't have much range, either. Ray Charles...he was NEVER known for his vocal quality. I really wish RS would quit having nightmares and coming up with these silly lists...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 20:29pm


This is "greatest" singers, not most technically perfect singers. If it were all about vocal range then why not put Andrea Bocelli at #1? He's a far more talented singer than Kurt Cobain but I know whose voice I enjoy more.

Posted by MBI on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 22:40pm


Gitar - No issue w/Elvis at #1. I'd gladly modify.

MBI - I just caught the sitelisting under "News & Analysis" & it was noted that not all are rock singers. This leaves the door wide open to punch a hole through the whole list. My own top ten now has Pavarotti, Domingo, Frank, Dean, Sammy, Bing, Ella, Johnny Desmond, Ginny Simms (not well known, but very good), & Peggy Lee. Along w/Elvis, Orbison, & a few others, they're all fighting for a spot. This one really backfired on RS!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 11.13.08 @ 04:48am


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THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART
By Joel Whitburn, 6th Edition, 2005 (1956-2005)

TOP 100 CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AS OF 2005

01. Elvis Presley
02. Frank Sinatra
03. The Beatles
04. Barbra Streisand
05. The Rolling Stones
06. Johnny Mathis
07. Elton John
08. Bob Dylan
09. Neil Diamond
10. The Temptations
11. The Beach Boys
12. Eric Clapton
13. Ray Conniff
14. Willie Nelson
15. Ray Charles
16. Rod Stewart
17. Mantovani
18. Aretha Franklin
19. Paul McCartney
20. David Bowie
21. Prince
22. James Brown
23. Pink Floyd
24. Andy Williams
25. Lawrence Welk
26. Neil Young
27. Bee Gees
28. Chicago
29. The Supremes
30. Henry Mancini
31. The Kingston Trio
32. Jimmy Buffett
33. Herb Alpert
34. Kenny Rogers/First Edition
35. Jimi Hendrix
36. Aerosmith
37. Stevie Wonder
38. Grateful Dead
39. Roger Williams
40. Fleetwood Mac
41. The Ventures
42. Led Zeppelin
43. Van Morrison
44. George Strait
45. Nat "King" Cole
46. Kiss
47. Linda Ronstadt
48. Metallica
49. Johnny Cash
50. Billy Vaughn
51. Bruce Springsteen
52. Diana Ross
53. Barry Manilow
54. Queen
55. Santana
56. The Who
57. Garth Brooks
58. Madonna
59. Jefferson Airplane/Starship
60. U2
61. Dionne Warwick
62. Billy Joel
63. John Denver
64. Rush
65. Mitch Miller
66. Michael Jackson
67. James Taylor
68. Harry Belafonte
69. The Isley Brothers
70. Alabama
71. The Lettermen
72. The Eagles
73. AC/DC
74. Nancy Wilson
75. Marvin Gaye
76. The Doors
77. Jethro Tull
78. Dolly Parton
79. Tony Bennett
80. The Kinks
81. Dean Martin
82. The Monkees
83. Joan Baez
84. Journey
85. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
86. Glen Campbell
87. Gladys Knight and The Pips
88. Earth, Wind & Fire
89. The Moody Blues
90. Frank Zappa
91. Mariah Carey
92. Anne Murray
93. Steve Miller Band
94. Enoch Light
95. Cher
96. Carole King
97. Daryl Hall & John Oates
98. Elvis Costello
99. Carly Simon
100. Bob Seger

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 05:12am



Okay, I'm the new President of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and the following artists receive automatic induction!:

2010 Rock Hall

The Remaining Top Charting Artists on the Billboard 200 Albums Chart:

02. Frank Sinatra
04. Barbra Streisand
06. Johnny Mathis
09. Neil Diamond
14. Willie Nelson
28. Chicago

2011 Rock Hall

50s-60s Folk and Surf Music

Joan Baez
Judy Collins
Peter, Paul and Mary
The Kingston Trio
Fairport Convention
Buffy Sainte-Marie
Phil Ochs
Laura Nyro
Melanie
Jan and Dean
The Surfaris
Dick Dale

2012 Rock Hall

Artists that the Public Complains About the Most

Chubby Checker
The Monkees
Genesis
Rush
KISS
Alice Cooper
Ozzy Osbourne
Quincy Jones
Bernie Taupin

2013

Blood, Sweat & Tears
Kool & The Gang
The Commodores
The Doobie Brothers
Cheap Trick
Heart
The Cars
Hall & Oates

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 06:01am


2014

Prog-Rock

Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Deep Purple
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Iron Maiden

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 06:06am


Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 06:06am

YOU FORGOT ONE!

2012 Rock Hall

Artists that the Public Complains About the Most

Chubby Checker
The Monkees
The Moody Blues
Genesis
Rush
KISS
Alice Cooper
Ozzy Osbourne
Quincy Jones
Bernie Taupin

Posted by RAKER on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 07:27am


TOP 100 CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AS OF 2005
(Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 05:12am)
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that is a very nice list to work with ... I find 20 artists not already in (below), who arguably deserve consideration for the RHOF:
y 09. Neil Diamond
y 23. Pink Floyd
? 27. Bee Gees
y 28. Chicago
? 46. Kiss
y 47. Linda Ronstadt
y 48. Metallica
y 54. Queen
y 63. John Denver
y 64. Rush
y 77. Jethro Tull
? 82. The Monkees
y 84. Journey
y 86. Glen Campbell
y 89. The Moody Blues
y 93. Steve Miller Band
? 95. Cher
y 96. Carole King
y 97. Daryl Hall & John Oates
? 99. Carly Simon

the "y" are my personal choices (like them or not) ... obviously all these artists had some depth and longevity to sell so many albums. of my 15 y's, I feel very STRONGLY about Diamond, Chicago, Tull, Moody Blues.

btw: Michael Jackson probably should be up near the top, not #66. Thriller alone sold over 50 million worldwide. his work with Jackson 5 is not counted (but he's already in RHOF anyway). also, am surprized we don't see 3 Dog Night on this list?

Posted by benny on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 09:53am


The Bee Gees are already in, BENNY

Posted by GHYU on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 10:49am


and Pink Floyd, and Queen! All already in!

Posted by GHYT on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 10:50am


benny, I'm pretty sure Pink Floyd is in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 12:36pm


Roy -

Normally I like this neat lists you print, but this Billboard chart has got me a bit confused. It's not that I don't know what it is, but what precisely is your point in printing it?

This list has to do w/artists with the most charting albums. Are you trying to signal us as to looking at someone in particular (i.e. Chicago)? Just what's up here?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 11.18.08 @ 17:33pm


Someone has probably already posted this, but alluding to the new RS 'Top 100 Singers' list, the RS website has links to the ballots filled out by various Rock personalities. Seems like they all had to do a top 20 list (those who voted).

Some of their selections are interesting. Courtney Love completed a legit list, with exception that she put herself as #1. Some dude named James Blunt only wrote himself in as #1 and didn't list anyone else (he must be a dick).

It's worth a lok.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 11.20.08 @ 06:56am


Another stupid list from R.S.

Freddie is not number 1, therefore the list is useless.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 11.20.08 @ 19:32pm


Air Suppleee:

Metal fan, huh? Are we talkin' straight 80's or all metal in general? Obviously you really didn't read what I wrote about the Crue, or you'd realize I was joking around. No offense to anyone who can't stand 80's metal either; I've never been hung up on the metal vs grunge thing. My 20 favorite metal songs, no preference here, all-time:

1. Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown
2. Sabbath - Paranoid
3. Purple - Highway Star
4. Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
5. Kiss - Shout It Out Loud
6. VH - Atomic Punk
7. AC/DC - Shoot to Thrill
8. Priest - You Got Another Thing Comin'
9. Maiden - Run to the Hills
10. Def Lep - Armaggedon It
11. Ratt - Round & Round
12. Dokken - Unchain the Night
13. GNR - Nighttrain
14. Winger - Seventeen
15. Skid Row - Youth Gone Wild
16. Megadeth - Peace Sells
17. Alice In Chains - Angry Chair
18. Soundgarden - Outshined
19. White Zombie - Black Sunshine
20. Godsmack - Voodoo

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 05:44am


Cheese....why are you even indulging this piece of crap with an attempt at civilized conversation. Piss on him and his thoughts and be done with it.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 07:01am


I was not aware that Mercedes-Benz made a bicycle....

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 07:21am


Cheese....why are you even indulging this piece of crap with an attempt at civilized conversation. Piss on him and his thoughts and be done with it.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 07:01am
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I don't blame you for thinking this way, and I ask you not to dump on me because I am attempting a vaguely civilizied conversation.

It's the reason I always promise not to jump on people's cases, even when there pumping the Backstreets or New Kids. Well, most of the time I don't bash them. I can't help but be interested. When I was growing up I was into old time comedy acts, and tried to get as much info on them as possible. At one point I purchased the autobiography of Harpo Marx, and there was a passage in it in which he described himself as "a professional listener", hence his ability to float into different social circles.

A part of me was that way growing up, and even though I talk a heck of a lot more now, a part of me can't help but remain that way. In a world where everyone's screaming over each other, a part of me is still the professional listener.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 16:54pm


Cheesecrop, I think you jumped the track here? Your reply s/b to the airhead on Motley Crue page. I like your live & let live outlook. I makes for peace. Also to 'listen' is a good thing, but there is a time tune out. But, Blah is right. Don't respond nicely to any banal boob who talks trash about peoples' mothers.

Somewhere else I read your post on Nirvana and agree with you there. Even if Cobain was not Clapton (on guitar), the Nirvana grunge style allows for that. As to Yes or No on Nirvana, I really am conflicted. They only had 3 albums I think. Is that really enough? (I should get on the right page, then comment.)

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 18:13pm


The Late, great LEVI STUBBS of THE FOUR TOPS. One of the most POWERFUL, most EMOTION-PACKED vocalists EVER.... and NOT EVEN ON THE LIST !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 07:39am


Actually, the 4 Tops are on the list - #93

RIP Levi - you are truly remembered by all.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 07:47am


I'm sorry . I meant the listing of the 100 Greatest Singers. Levi is not there.... and he SHOULD be !!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 19:19pm


Only 20th Century artists should be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 09:49am


Would that be because artists who started their careers in the 21st century would not be eligible until 2026 and after?

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 15:04pm


Only 20th Century artists should be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 09:49am
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I'd like to cast a vote for Enrico Caruso then. He was rockin' the opera house turn of the century style.

Don't fear the 21st century, cause there's no going back to the 20th (at least not yet, anyway). There will be a few acts from this decade who get in when their time comes. Let the 21st century have a chance to settle in before you pull a Mr. Wizard on everybody and show us your time machine.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 15:41pm




Why are the Byrds on any list?

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 01.19.09 @ 00:33am

Wow that is a good question!!!
They should of been in years ago !

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 01.19.09 @ 07:55am


Regarding The Byrds: already were inducted in 1991.

Posted by Worm on Monday, 01.19.09 @ 14:47pm


I ask this question on the immortals page cause whoever is the answer to this question should be considered immortal, at least by this site's standards:

Does anyone know what artist has the most comments?

I just wandered over to the Coven page for a minute. They have 689 comments as I write this. That's over double the Beatles. It would be impossible for one person to look at every page, but I'm wondering, does anyone have more than Coven?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 01.25.09 @ 17:32pm


At 662, Bon Jovi is closing in fast. After that Madonna has 449. The bigger the argument, the more response there is. On Coven's, it is wild how "all over the map" those posts are...some of it pretty interesting.

As for Dick Dale, that's gotta be close to being a good call (mrxyz won't like it, though...LOL).

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.25.09 @ 17:49pm


Coven, Bon Jovi, Rush, Kiss, Madonna, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Nirvana, Metallica, Tom Jones, Steve Perry and the Beatles.

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Sunday, 01.25.09 @ 21:04pm


All i'm going to say is No. 1 should be Elvis, and No. 2 should be the Beatles, period !!!
They are most immortal than any of the others on these 2 lists or any other lists. If it wasn't for Elvis there would not be the Beatles. Elvis started it all, for all the other generations (decades)of artists who came after him.

Posted by cricket on Tuesday, 01.27.09 @ 11:22am


How does Queen not make the Rolling Stone's Immortals list??? Come on!! Freddie Mercury is Rolling over in his grave right now! Madonna made the list!!! She sang like a virgin and material girl!! Those song are much better than lets say Crazy little thing called love, killer queen, Bohemian Rhapsody, and not to mention Under Pressure the collaboration with David Bowie!

Posted by Wendy on Thursday, 01.29.09 @ 07:25am


Wendy...You scared the crap out of me. Queen is number 33 on this list.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Thursday, 01.29.09 @ 08:26am


This list is a joke without Todd Rundgren on it.

Posted by Bob on Wednesday, 02.4.09 @ 08:10am


AGREE OR NOT THIS LIST WAS MADE BY SOME PEOPLE WHOSE OPINION IS PROBABLY THIS. OF COURSE IS SILLY OF THEM TO BE SO ABSOLUTE AND SAY "THESE ARE THE IMORTALS"
WHAT ARE THE CRITIRIA? WHY DID PUT NIRVANA IN NUMBER 27 OF ALL AGES. WHY ARE THEY IGNORING LEGENDS SUCH AS SCORPIONS AND DEEP PURPLE?

Posted by JUIAVA on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:55pm


Since when are The Scorpions legendary? Come on! I don't know why Deep Purple is excluded (they probably where #101), but why The Scorpions aren't on it is quite obvious. They are not thát important, people!

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Posted by Pharm6 on Wednesday, 02.11.09 @ 16:24pm


Rolling Stone's list....Bob Marley, Nirvana, The Velvet Underground, Jerry Lee Lewis BEFORE The Who? Need anyone say more what a piece of crap RS's list is. Who even listens anymore to anything Madonna produced?

The VH1 list isn't any better. David Bowie and The Police before the Kinks?

Seiously, in 25, 50 or 100 years, what will people be listening to? I can guarantee they'll still be listening to The Who, The Kinks, Elvis, The Beatles. Madonna, Michael Jackson - No

Posted by Z. Roe on Monday, 02.16.09 @ 17:43pm


Etta James and Dinah Washington have already been inducted. So should all the other casino/lounge/crooners/hollywood actors with hits from the 40s and 50s.

EARLY INFLUENCE CATEGORY

Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tony Bennett
Dean Martin
Sammy Davis Jr.
Mel Torme
Peggy Lee
Ella Fitzgerald
Harry Belafonte
Eartha Kitt
Barbra Streisand

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.17.09 @ 14:50pm


Ok, first off, why should ALL lounge crooners be inducted? How were they all influential to the development of Rock And Roll? Two, you left Perry Como off your list. Three, Barbra Streisand didn't have any hits at all until 1964, I believe. She should never be inducted anyway.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 02.17.09 @ 14:52pm


I think when deciding upon the biggest influences of rock and roll, it should be decided upon whom has inspired music artists themselves. This is not a popularity contest among fans, but is a contest between actual devoted music artists themselves regardless the genre. Just tally 'em up.

Posted by Cam Eisen on Sunday, 02.22.09 @ 20:56pm


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

NON-PERFORMER CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 Alan Freed
1986 Sam Phillips
1987 Leonard Chess
1987 Ahmet Ertegun
1987 Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
1987 Jerry Wexler
1988 Berry Gordy, Jr
1989 Phil Spector
1990 Gerry Goffin and Carole King
1990 Holland-Dozier-Holland
1991 Dave Bartholomew
1991 Ralph Bass
1992 Leo Fender
1992 Bill Graham
1992 Doc Pomus
1993 Dick Clark
1993 Milt Gabler
1994 Johnny Otis
1995 Paul Ackerman
1996 Tom Donahue
1997 Syd Nathan
1998 Allen Toussaint
1999 George Martin
2000 Clive Davis
2001 Chris Blackwell
2002 Jim Stewart
2003 Mo Ostin
2008 Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff

LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 John Hammond
1991 Nesuhi Ertegun
2004 Jann Wenner
2005 Frank Barsalona
2005 Seymour Stein
2006 Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.2.09 @ 17:22pm


The justification for Roxy Music is easy -- see the analysis by The Guardian (one of the world's most respected papers on music) -- Roxy is the 2nd most influential UK band after the Beatles (at worst they are in the top 5). http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/story/0,,1487397,00.html
On induction U2 said Roxy is in their Hall of Fame, to embarrass the biased Hall voters. Morrissey states that For Your Pleasure is the best British Album. Roxy's debut is considered the best Brit debut in history by NME. They were one of the most creative bands ever on Planet Earth, inspiring tons of others to form bands in the 70s and 80s and 90s. And of course Avalon is the pinnacle of Rock elegance - per Rolling Stone. And founding member Eno has more representation in the RS top 500 than anyone else (Roxy, solo, and production credits).

Posted by M Rourke on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 03:36am


Agreed regarding Roxy Music. Acclaimed Music has them as the best band not in the hall. Rumor is that Bill Flanagan on the nominating committee will finally make a big push for Roxy next year given the heat his has gotten from U2, Bowie, Johnny Marr, Gilmour and tons of other top artists to bring respect back to the Hall by at least correcting their biggest mistake.

Posted by A Pennsean on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 03:52am


Do The Strand...

Posted by Joe-Skee on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 09:59am


Yes Roxy Music should defintely be in the Rockhall - if creativeness, influence, and groundbreaking versatility mean anything. Roxy was even a relative commercial powerhouse outside of America - with many #1 and Top 10 albums in the UK, continental Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. Their last album Avalon even went platinum in the US, and produced millions of pregnancies as a result.

Posted by Mtomei on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 21:06pm


Yes, Roxy Music should be in as Bowie has often said. No use stepping inside the hall in Cleveland until Roxy and Ferry are in. If artists were on the committee, they would have made it the year. Likewise The Smiths should make it their first year. Slam dunks.

Posted by ER Wood on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 21:19pm


And meant to say, that Guardian article on Roxy was very interesting. Thanks for posting.

Posted by ER Wood on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 21:20pm


Why No fleetwood Mac? Surely Tusk,Rumours and fleetwood mac(white album) are considered immortal. And then theres Tango in the night which is a great 80's record. The Dance which is one of the best live albums and Say you will one of the best albums of the last ten Years. And thats only the Buckingham Nicks era of the band if you include Peter Green and to a lesser extent Bob Welch surely they deserve to be on the list. As for Eminem on the list dont make me laugh. At first i taught it was hilrious that people were geting roped in by what is basically a R Rated Vanilla Ice. His appeal i presumed was down to young kids thinking is profanity was cool. There is nothing sadder than a grown man or woman lisitening to this garbage. If you threw him on saturday night live as a quick comedy sketch perhaps it could be amusing but to seriously consider it immortal music is a joke and a sick one at that. Luckily it appears most of his 'Fans' have grown up and rejected his comic stylings. His first song slim shady or my name is or whatever its called is a travesty and sums him up for me.
Rolling Stone as far as i know has zero respect from the majority of both music fans and musicians themselves. It has sold out far to many times before and i wont even go into some of the legends it initially dismissed.

Posted by Lindsey Buckingham on Monday, 05.11.09 @ 05:00am


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Posted by MWRRUSH on Thursday, 05.14.09 @ 09:39am


where are the chili peppers??????

Posted by john westwood on Saturday, 06.20.09 @ 20:09pm


Nirvana? HAH!!

God, talk about all p!ss and wind. They were influential, but immortals? and WOLRDWIDE?

Posted by ...... on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 02:54am


I've always wondered about Nirvana's worldwide appeal...did they ever tour outside the states? I agree that grunge might have impacted "hair metal" (which some groups have been unjustly accused of being), but they certainly didn't push metal totally out of the way because it fizzled out and metal is still hanging in there...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 08:43am


In my opinion thrash and other more rougher-edged forms of metal had more to do with hair metal's death.

Let's not forgot that Metallica had a top 10 album with ...And Justice for All before Nirvana even released an album.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 09:10am


In my opinion thrash and other more rougher-edged forms of metal had more to do with hair metal's death.

Let's not forgot that Metallica had a top 10 album with ...And Justice for All before Nirvana even released an album.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 09:10am
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...And Justice For All was released in 88. Afterwards, you still had both Warrant & Poison come down the line w/hit records, &, depending on you count them, Motley Crue and Skid Row.

Whatever effect thrash was having, it wasn't enough to unseat glam metal at the top. Consider also acts like Slaughter & Firehouse from 90/91 as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 18:29pm


I've always wondered about Nirvana's worldwide appeal...did they ever tour outside the states? I agree that grunge might have impacted "hair metal" (which some groups have been unjustly accused of being), but they certainly didn't push metal totally out of the way because it fizzled out and metal is still hanging in there...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 08:43am
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Check out '1991: The Year Punk Broke" to see Nirvana/Sonic Youth/Dinosaur Jr./The Ramones, etc. overseas.

You're absolutely right about that. Nothing will push metal away for good, cause there'll always be that group of peole who want something extremely loud and at least slightly out of the mainstream. Metal adapted to grunge and just got heavier & ditched the solos. Amped up the riffs and produced nu metal & rap rock. Another move in a different direction.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 18:35pm


If you look at some bands bands that started out as hair bands like Skid Row(first album) and Pantera(first 4 albums) they didn't put on flannel and startplaying grunge. Thosebands went into more grittier forms of metal. Skid Row went in the speed direction and Pantera with groove metal.

Also, the thrash bands had already gained an underground popularity and were begining to crossover. Megadeth had So Far, So Good... So What! that hit #28 on the charts and Rust in Peace hit #23 a year before Nirvana released Nevermind.

Thrash and the other forms of extreme metal had more to do with the end of hair metal, not grunge!

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 19:00pm


If you look at some bands bands that started out as hair bands like Skid Row(first album) and Pantera(first 4 albums) they didn't put on flannel and startplaying grunge. Thosebands went into more grittier forms of metal. Skid Row went in the speed direction and Pantera with groove metal.

Also, the thrash bands had already gained an underground popularity and were begining to crossover. Megadeth had So Far, So Good... So What! that hit #28 on the charts and Rust in Peace hit #23 a year before Nirvana released Nevermind.

Thrash and the other forms of extreme metal had more to do with the end of hair metal, not grunge!

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.28.09 @ 19:00pm
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First, I'm not questioning which direction Skid Row/Pantera went AFTER grunge. Whatever way they went, it didn't work that well, at least in Skids case. I was questioning whom you felt was glam between "And Justic" & Nirvana.

Secondly, your comments about Megadeth only go to prove my point about Nirvana even more. Thrash WAS breaking through, though on a very slow level. For what it's worth, grunge sped up the process about five times faster. Had we been forced to rely solely on thrash, glam would've been still around in 1996, for goodness sakes!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 18:43pm


I'm sure grunge had something to do with the end of hair metal, but thrash IMO really had more to do with it's downfall.

Metallica and Megadeth were playing in hair metal central(LA) and starting to win over larger crowds. When Nirvana and company were under-the-radar were playing in Washington, far from a place that they could win over the hair metal crowds.

Also, Metallica's smash crossover Black Album hit in August of 1991. Nevermind would not be released until later the next month.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 20:23pm


Well, I think what you have to consider here is the mainstream rock radio format and what MTV was programming. What replaced hair metal as the popular rock of the time? Nirvana and their contemporaries as well as anything else generally called "alternative" followed by Nirvana clones and the post-grunge bands. Metallica and Megadeth became very popular but that kind of heavy music as a whole was still a niche. Metallica, Megadeth, and Pantera were exceptions. Heavy music didn't really take over again until the late 90s and the music of that era was very much a product of the post-grunge stuff that preceded it, Alice in Chains being the major template.

The kinds of kids who were turned on to the metal of the 90s were very different from those who listened to hair metal who had come of age long before the sea change occurred. The latter were set in their ways and weren't going to change with the times (like baby boomers and 60s music.) Metallica may have converted some of the hair metal crowd but that alone couldn't kill the entire popular culture of hair metal. Like all things, it had naturally run its course. It was a new generation of kids that came into a new sound at the precise time.

From my perspective as someone who used to be a hardcore metal fan and who is now just a hardcore music fan, it seems like the rejection of the "Nirvana killed hair" notion is out of some issue of musical superiority. Let it be said that post-grunge was as bad as hair metal. It's interesting to note that many fans of the 80s alternative music viewed the post-grunge stuff as inauthentic and artless just as metal fans viewed the concurrent hair metal with disdain. It was all with good reason. Alternative/indie guy of the 90s: You didn't like Bush, you liked Pavement. Metal guy of the 80s: You didn't like Winger, you liked Voivod. It's one type of cruddy music replaced with another in the popular sphere - the best stuff usually ran beneath the surface (of course, there are always exceptions.) It happened again with metal in the late 90s: Limp Bizkit? No, no, no. Dark Tranquility? Yes, yes, yes.

Posted by Elastic Man on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 03:50am


Metallica and Megadeth were playing in hair metal central(LA) and starting to win over larger crowds. When Nirvana and company were under-the-radar were playing in Washington, far from a place that they could win over the hair metal crowds.

Also, Metallica's smash crossover Black Album hit in August of 1991. Nevermind would not be released until later the next month.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 20:23pm
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You may also be forgetting where a great deal of the metal crowd went during 89/90, namely to hip-hop. The bandwagon jumpers of 86-88 went to dance and rap when they tired of metal. I can still recall in 90 the day I ran into a friend who used to have long hair & always seemed to be wearing the same Whitesnake shirt day in & day out, only this day he had cut his hair. Within a few months he was hooked on M.C. Hammer. If anything, people were slowly leaving metal behind, so I'm not sure the M & M boys geography had a lot to do w/it.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 05:18am


It is almost impossible to say that one genre kills off another genre. Different generations of teenagers have different environments in which they grow up and the music of the times tends to reflect this. You usually see this in the small clubs before you hear it on the radio or see it in the concert halls.

In general, I would seriously doubt that in 1992, some kid decided while listening to the radio one afternoon that he will no longer like Poison and will instead like Megadeth or Nirvana. This taste would tend to be acquired in school or the local pub over a couple of years time. Sometimes it is based purely on peer pressure. What are the cool kids listening to? I will listen to the same. Or sometimes a kid will say to himself, I want to be different than everyone else, so I will listen to something different. And hopefully in some cases, a kid hears music and it really connects.

Then you have band issues. As the 80's came to a close and 90's began, the biggest bands were Def Leppard, Guns And Roses, Poison, Motley Crue, Whitesnake, Dokken and sadly Bon Jovi. Looked what happened?

Steve Clark (DL) died
Izzy Stradlin left GnR
C.C. DeVille left Poison
The Crue imploded on each other
George Lynch kept leaving Dokken
W.S. could not repeat it's success because the other talent in the band, John Sykes along with the rest of the band that recorded the self-titled album were all replaced.

This had a major impact on the music that these bands recorded. The second tier bands, although many of them were good to excellent, did not have the following or popularity that the big bands had. So what happened?

Metallica added some basic melody into the music and started crossing over. Nirvana's music was all about melody only with a slight punk edge to it and crossed over.

And what does this all mean - nothing except that music magazines started writing more articles on them then they did on the previous generations bands and the 80's then became washed up poseur music.

As I see it, it is all of the same basic genre. Hard Rock with different twists which is why I listened to all of it. It's just music people. Listen to what you like and don't listen to what you hate. As long as we have music, our lives are better.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 08:47am


Agreed, we'll never know for sure what ended hair metal. For all we know it could have been Beavis and Butt-head!

Posted by Dude Man on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 10:18am


"Nirvana's music was all about melody only with a slight punk edge to it and crossed over."

This isn't entirely accurate. Bleach (their only grunge record) certainly isn't that way and much of In Utero isn't either. What made Nevermind so compelling was that it was essentially a mix between The Stooges' Funhouse and the melodic prowess of the early Beatles. It was cathartic and different. This was all funneled via Kurt's love of The Pixies and early twee and noise pop like Beat Happening and The Vaselines. So really, it was more than just a tinge of punk...they were the culmination and embodiment of that entire preceding decade and tradition of underground music; punk, post punk, noise, melodic Brit guitar pop, Black Flag's take on hard rock - it was all in Nirvana. This is something all of their illegitimate ancestors (anything called post-grunge) missed. This is why groups like Sonic Youth heralded and fostered their potential. They were the only band that could have done what happened that year.

Posted by Elastic Man on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 22:07pm


Elastic Man - you are right except that it was the melody filled "Nevermind" that broke them into the mainstream. And that is the point I was making.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 07.1.09 @ 04:37am


I didn't know where else to put this, so I'm writing it here. What exactly is "The Hot List" that appears on the side every time you click on the "Latest Comments" button? I don't know what the point of this list is but right now this is what it says:
The Hot List:
This week's active artists
Steve Perry
Coven
The Troggs
Guns N Roses
Red Hot Chili Peppers
INXS
Journey
Celine Dion
Alice Cooper
Kiss

If it has Steve Perry and Celine Dion on it I don't know if I want anything to do with it!!

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 20:20pm


"A purist is one who desires that an item remain true to its essence and free from adulterating or diluting influences."- Wiki Wiki

Hmmmm.....!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 21:16pm


I pretty sure the "Hot List" is a list of the artists who are recieving the most votes at a certain time. The higher you are the more votes you are currrently getting or something like that.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 21:28pm


Philip...Are you working tonight? If so, have a good one...if not, have a good one anyway! You'll have to let us know your station sometime, so we can be overly critical of your show...LOL!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 21:56pm


I figured that might have something to with it, but I don't see what's so "Hot" about it

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 22:30pm


What's wrong with being a rock purist? I'd wear that label proudly

Posted by Oberon on Wednesday, 07.8.09 @ 19:04pm


Oberon, actually, "You've Lost that Lovin' Feeling" is the song with the most airplay ever, follwed by "Never My Love", "Yesterday", "Stand By Me", and "Dock Of The Bay"...and whatever song Philip plays when he needs a "break"!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 07.8.09 @ 19:09pm


Secondly, your comments about Megadeth only go to prove my point about Nirvana even more. Thrash WAS breaking through, though on a very slow level. For what it's worth, grunge sped up the process about five times faster. Had we been forced to rely solely on thrash, glam would've been still around in 1996, for goodness sakes!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 18:43pm

Nirvana is a terrible group

Posted by Marty on Thursday, 07.9.09 @ 15:28pm


I could never understand the Nirvana thing and the following paragraphs about Nirvana that i found on-line more or less summarizes my views:

"One thing I have never understood is why Nirvana is so loved by writers/critics. To me, the influence Nirvana had is majorly overrated. They are continually hailed as having brought music away from teen pop and hairbands. Huh? Does no one remember Guns N Roses having hits in the late 80s and paving the way for other rock acts to get radio play? Does no one remember alternative acts like R.E.M. and Red Hot Chili Peppers having hits in the late 80s and early 90s? Do these writers not remember Mariah Carey saangin' and writing her own songs before Nirvana hit? So-called "manufactured" acts were on their way out before Nirvana hit.

Also, "grunge" music died out in about 3 years. It's not like Cobain started a whole new movement in music. By the late 90s we had teen pop again and also assembly-line rock by Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc. - acts who owed more to hip-hop (with the rap verses and beats) than grunge.

In my opinion, Nirvana/Cobain are hugely overrated. What do you all think?"

I think Soundgarden was a grunge act that predated Nirvana by a full year. I'll add that I was never into grunge.

Posted by Keebord on Thursday, 07.9.09 @ 15:33pm


Keebord -

Read your immortals bit on Nirvana. If you were never into grunge, then why do you bother commenting on it? I'll be the first to admit I made a mistake commenting on the Small Faces, a band I knew little of and probably could have cared less about.

Some people liked Nirvana's stuff. So sorry if you didn't get it. In addition, only the truly narrow minded would assume grunge was the only thing that made up the alternative rock field, even at it's commerical peak. Whomever you quoted has something of a narrow viewpoint in this regards. Whether you cared for them or not, they got the credit. Don't like it? Tough.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 07.9.09 @ 20:16pm


Well yes Cheesecrop, you have a point. Mind you, I hardly think grunge was what mostly made up the alternative scene. I realize now I made a bit of a mistake quoting that individual. I plan on expressing my views about Nirvana at a later time when I can get more thoughts around them seeing as I've never given Nirvana that much thought (maybe I should have)

Posted by Keebord on Thursday, 07.9.09 @ 23:36pm


The individual I quoted was on another site and I asked him how old he was. He said he was 21. This means that he was very young when the grunge scene unfolded so I'm unaware of how familiar he is with it or how vast his musical knowledge is

Posted by Keebord on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 12:21pm


THE VH1 LIST IS GARBAGE ELVIS AT 8 SHOULD BE 2 CHUCK BEERY AT 26 SHOULD BE IN TOP 5 NOTICE WHERE MICHAEL JACKSON IS ON THE BOTH LISTS INTRESTING.

Posted by GEORGE on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 20:19pm


GEORGE...what "list" are you talking about? I'm thinking that the people at VH-1 didn't know that rock existed before the 80's...

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 20:23pm


Simon & Garfunkel were 'artists'? lol

Posted by Holstein4Kramer on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 20:27pm


Simon & Garfunkel were artists in just about every sense of the word...some absolutely brilliant music...

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 20:55pm


Yes, Gitarzan, you are so wise,

Simon & Garfunkel, sure they are, they are brilliant

They were great, The Beatles were great, Elton was great, Journey were great, they are are all great, with only one exception: Madonna, she is the worst, she is nothing, nada, zit

Beatles may have sold zillions of records,u're a big fan of them, but

who has the biggest selling album of all time? Jackson
what generation made that album the biggest of all time, selling in 2 years, 1983&1984, a staggering 20 million in copies in USA?
yours, your country
who supported that album in becoming the biggest selling in USA,on the long run, as a title of pride?
the black community, in your country, dumbsuck
who said that he owns 2 albums by Jackson and not one album by Madonna?
you gitarzan, coz u are a smart dumbsuck



Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 22:54pm


And you, G., are indicative of many of ur generation

Coz in 1986, this white chick, Madonna, released a perfect pop album, better than Thriller, with 5 amazing lead singles, this Madonna showed herself as a performer and artist better than Jackson (which was unthinkable at the time, and maybe still is)


but nooo, people like Gitarzan went back to their Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppellin IV and (like u confessed) Jackson album,

Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 22:58pm


The black community did their duty, they bought that Thriller crap not once, but 30 times all over again, so that you don't forget it

Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 23:14pm


But millions like you, Gitarzan, did you support
Madonna, as she rightfully deserved? No, coz she was nothing, coz you see:

"Simon & Garfunkel were artists in just about every sense of the word...some absolutely brilliant music..." ....

Dumbsuck, shut up, u're a retard, with all ur music knowledge, u don't get it, dumbsuck

Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 23:15pm


By 1984, Jackson with his album has basically killed the music industry forever, right?

The Beatles can sell 3 billion album, can release as many compilations they want, remastered or not,

but the big prize, the biggie, belongs to Sir Michael Jackson, King Of Pop, right?

Get it, dumbsuck?

Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 23:41pm


And guess who helped Michael Jackson achieved those unmatched 20 million album sales in 2 years- 1983&1984?

Yep, you guessed it, it's Sir Paul Mc Cartney, ex member of the Beatles, first with a song on Thriller, The Girl Is Mine, then with a collaboration "Say Say Say".
Paul Mc Cartney was basically saying to the big Beatles fan base, come on boys, buy the Thriller, it will help Jackson burry us, the Beatles, forever...
Isn't that nice?

And then what did Sir Michael Jackson do? He bought all the Beatles catalog, as the ultimate HUMILIATION

This is your reward....

Posted by Gaven on Friday, 07.10.09 @ 23:50pm


WHAT country made 'Thriller' without point of return the biggest selling album ever worldwide?

UK? No
Germany?
France? No
Japan? No
Canada? No
Australia? No
Brazil? No

Only one country, USA - 28 Platinum, with the combined worldwide sales, far, far away from any competition. Is Thriller 28 Platinum in any of the biggest music markets mentioned above? No, far from it
What country made Thriller bigger than any Beatles album on worldwide level? USA, not UK, not Europe, not the world.
In what only country has Garth Brooks sold more than Elvis, a paranormal event? USA

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 00:15am


How was Jackson as an artist and performer and human being:

- he did plastic surgery to his nose and facial features to become more beautiful >>> to sell more records
-he did plastic surgery to become white, for commercial purposes (black artists don't sell much worldwide) >>> to sell more records
-charities and showing all his love for all the children out there >>> to create a better image and sell more records
-always claiming he sold 750 million records, when he didn't sell even 1/3 of that >>> to create the image he is invincible and sell more records
-sexual predator to white children

Does a true artist would ever act like that? No. Does thriller deserve to be the biggest selling album, by so much advantage? No

No, only 3 good songs on it, the rest of songs fillers, like most of his songs are on all his albums.
Some good riffs, some good movements and choreography and that's it

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 01:03am


R the rest of Jackson albums disappointments? Yes,Bad, Dangerous etc. Off the Wall is an average album also, songs like Rock With You or Don't Stop till, or Off The Wall you get enough, are good, but not that good, are average
Favorite hobby among the black community in USA. buying the Thriller album over and over again, for months and years, until the Beatles choke for good

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 01:17am


He's a gimmick!
The lyrics, the beats on Thriller song, Beat It or Billie Jean are for kids
Why was thriller album even that successful?

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 01:25am


Thriller is a good album, but the following work that MJ did is not onlu in therm of quality inferior, but also embarrassing and destroyed all his Thriller legacy, i can't even be a fan, he was, mostly, disturbed!

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 01:37am


But what Thriller legacy? Billie Jean is, in all fairness crap and at times macabre, Thriller song is recycled crap also, drum n' bass gimmick, Beat It seems the only somewhat good song on Thriller album
I jsut don't get it how that album was so successful, 37 weeks at nr. 1?

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 01:46am


And what was so innovative about the Thriller video? Half of the video he walks around the girl, the final half dances with the zombies, and that's it?
Man I just don't get it...

But, if in the pop field, crap like Britney Spears, Baby One More Time, sold over 14 million in USA, then it's normal for thriller to have sold over 20 million,
but what about Madonna, she was huge in USA, but her album sales have never been that good there, must be all the scandals, those 1979 pics published in Playboy magazine in 1985, when she was just beginning being a megastar with LAV (33 weeks in top 10)

So it's not about the body of work, where Madonna is clearly better, the general american public like more those type of entertainer, Britney, Michael, N Sync, Backstreet boys, Bruce Springsteen, Journey, ... they never liked Madonna, the person...

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 02:17am


But u can't never tell if they didn't like her, because of those pic and scandal u can't really tell, it's a mistery, maybe they could have loved her more, but with those pics, not that much

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 02:47am


Not to mention that the Billie Jean' bass line is stolen from Hall and Oates - 'I Can't Go for That' (1980 song), the beginning is almost identical!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwarCieO1dc&feature=related

Posted by Gaven on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 03:15am


"Not to mention that the Billie Jean' bass line is stolen from Hall and Oates - 'I Can't Go for That' (1980 song), the beginning is almost identical!"-Something called "Gaven"

It's painfully obvious that there's a lot that you don't know about the making of that album, let alone popular music knowledge. The bass lines might be a little similar, but there's a lot of great songs where the backbeats are similar...backbeat is no big deal! On top of it, you get on here and start bashing people, which makes your ignorance just that much more evident. It's usually best to "be quiet and let people think you don't know what you're talking about"...

Don't we have enough mindless rambling on here?

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 05:11am


Anyone care to fill me in if I missed anything over the last few days?

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 12:53pm


Whassup, Dude Man...there was just some "individual" named "Gaven" on here last night ranting and raving and for some reason started in on me (there's a new one...LOL!!!). Basically just a bunch of mindless drivel, if you know what I mean...!!! It had all the feeling of a fanboy/girl/Cousin Itt.

It was the first time that I'd heard that "I Can't Go For That" and "Billie Jean"'s intros sounded the same, though. I've played both of those songs, and the similarities are vague, at best. Those are two pretty good bass players, though (Louis Johnson and I believe "T-Bone" Wolk was playing for Hall & Oates at the time).

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 13:50pm


Do you think I should change my handle to "dumbsuck"...???

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 14:03pm


There was a bit of conversation on here about the differences between Elvis' and the Beatles influence...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 14:26pm


Thanks for the info Gitarzan.

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 14:40pm


Gaven- who are you arguing with?

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 16:34pm


Keebord...I don't know, but he sure lit into me...LMAO!!! I may be peranently scarred, being informed that I'm a "dumbsuck"...I didn't know I was so narrow-minded...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.11.09 @ 16:41pm


Wow - I fear Gaven has some unresolved issues.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 08:23am


Lol, Gitarzan, he's so funny

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 11:28am


I'm not saying Thriller wasn't a good album, but the fact remains: 6 tracks out of 9 are fillers
The other 3 songs made it sell 20 million copies in USA, making it the best selling album of 2 consecutive years: 1983, 1984
Billie Jean, Beat It and Thriller are the 3 songs that stand out, along with their videos. The rest of the material on the album is the same boring 'Motown' stuff, all forgettable

What Billie Jean, Beat It and Thriller did, they offered the whole package, maybe the greatest, 3 in one:

- sound (great songs, great bass lines)
- image (a young, attractive MJ)
- performance (MJ's electric dance moves, groovy choreography, moonwalk)

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 12:17pm


In my opinion, from a strictly artistic point of view, there is only one other 'package' in the whole history of (popular) music, that rivals the one delivered by MJ
It's Madonna's True Blue, 9 songs on the album, 5 great songs and 4 fillers:

Live To Tell
Papa Don't Preach
True Blue
Open Your Heart
La Isla Bonita

In terms of sound, image and performance, no other female artist has delivered from one album the quality on Madonna's True Blue. The songs are some of the greatest pop tunes ever, the image was perfect (Madonna looking amazing, at her best), the performance quality is there - the dance moves in Papa Don't Preach, the iconic presentation in La Isla Bonita and Open Yout Heart)
In my opinion, it was conceived and thought to be Madonna's big album. In a way it succeeded, it remains her biggest studio album, with worldwide sales of over 24 million, still my impression is that the eventual sales were somewhat of a disappointment, especially in USA
It's all down to demographics and those 1979 pics published against Madonna's consent in Playboy (1985), when Madonna was at the height of her success then, with Like A Virgin. Because of those pics, Madonna's best album, True Blue, failed to reach its full commercial potential and deserved mega-success.
It became 7 Platinum in USA, but with a 'clean' image it would have sold way more, even W. Houston's first album reached 13 Platinum, and the overall quality there is nowhere near Madonna's True Blue




Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 13:01pm


With those 1979 pics revealed in Playboy (1985), Madonna turned from the 'it' female artist in music into national shame, no matter what she made of it.
In terms of demographics, she lost big time from her audience and potential audience:

- the girls that were looking up to her, one way or another
- the neutral audience (rock fans, etc) started to look down on her
- the parents that bought the albums for the kids

Basically, Madonna was at the time in a middle of a paradox: though being the best mainstream artist, the bulk of the mainstream audience had their their back against her for good

Let's say I was an MJ fan at the time, middle of 80's. I'm down with MJ, Beat It baby, huge fan, my MTV is on, MJ's videos and music are so great, he's the best, baby, he's my idol! But, as it happens, I listen to his songs, over and over, and I eventually get bored, I also feel the need for another artist, another persepective maybe...
Who would that other artist/alternative be? Prince, why not?, Whitney, why not?, George Michael? why not? U2, why not and so on and so forth,
but Madonna? hmm, she's good man, she's cool, but those pics, everyone knows them, my parents, my friends, she's cool but she's so over, can I shar mine being an MJ fan with 'someone' like Madonna? Not really, too much headache...

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 13:29pm


Seven of the 9 cuts on "Thriller" were released as singles...all reached the top 10. The musicians involved were a "who's who" of great studio musicians, including Paul Jackson Jr. (one of the most accomplished session guitarists ever), Steve & Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather from the band Toto, Louis Johnson of the Brothers Johnson, Rod Temperton (keyboardist for Heatwave), and Eddie Van Halen (Vincent Price was even involved). Temperton wrote "Thriller", while Steve Porcaro co-wrote "Human Nature". As of right now, it has re-entered the Billboard Top 100 albums at No. 2.

Being produced by Quincy Jones for the Epic label, the album (along with "Off The Wall") had very little, if any "Motown" influence at all...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 13:40pm


What is a pop idol, at its essence? Someone who you admire and love, someone WHO YOU LOOK UP TO
With those 1979 pics revealed in 1985, Madonna lost all the reasons why people were looking up to her: beautiful, confident, outspoken, cool, great songs and presentation, a true female idol that deserves to be up there, to the top. Those pics revealed exactly the opposite of what Madonna was supposed to be: poor, unglamorous, uncool, not taking care of herself, the opposite of the pop idol and image that she created for herself.
It was another Madonna that the public never knew about, and now that they knew, they gave up on Madonna
As for being an MJ fan or any other artist's fan at the time, Madonna lost, with those pics, most importantly from a commercial point of view, the possibility to be the second best, the second choice: Ok, I'm A Prince fan but I also love Madonna, she's cool, I'm gonna buy her knew album or single. With those 1979 pics, Isuppose people were more like: Ermmm, I'm not even going there, are you kidding?
That why Madonna was put into the odd position as a pop idol and artist to continually prove herself, again and again, that she is not was most thought of her, one of the hardest position to be in, especially when she so talented and beautiful, that's she continually began to run from her past, into the vogue, the glamuorous, the erotica, the ray of light, she had nothing to celebrate, nothing to look back in the past and be happy about, an heart- breaking journey

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 13:54pm


Anyone who thinks Madonna didn't know about those pictures or doesn't think they were part of her "master plan" is crazy. She obviously got on that horse and rode it, otherwise she would've disassociated herself with anything considered "vampy".

Around the same time, Vanessa Williams had some "revealing" pictures pop up...and it cost her the "Miss America" crown. She struggled to show people that she "needed the money", and everything she's done musically and in films since are a far cry from those infamous pictures...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:09pm


"Seven of the 9 cuts on "Thriller" were released as singles...all reached the top 10. The musicians involved were a "who's who" of great studio musicians, including Paul Jackson Jr. (one of the most accomplished session guitarists ever), Steve & Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather from the band Toto, Louis Johnson of the Brothers Johnson, Rod Temperton (keyboardist for Heatwave), and Eddie Van Halen (Vincent Price was even involved). Temperton wrote "Thriller", while Steve Porcaro co-wrote "Human Nature". As of right now, it has re-entered the Billboard Top 100 albums at No. 2."

I'm not talking about Top 10s, thousands of songs have reached Top 10, and nobody knows about them. They were good songs, but nothing special, and I was referring to them as 'Motown' crap, metaphorically. Thriller album appealed not only to all audiences, but to all audiences and from them to the black audience more than anything else. For all audiences and all ages, was the Thriller
Madonna, with those pics, lost the possibility to appeal to all audiences. Her stuff was more than good, but the national shame could not be forgotten or forgiven, she continued to appeal to the cool folks, but only with them you don't sell album blockbusters. You must have all the audiences and ages, youngsters, parents, grandpas, grandmothers etc, you don't need the parental advisory stuff etc
With those pics, Madonna lost the possibility to enter into the people's house, to be openly admired, raved, talked about and celebrated. My English is very poor, i don't know exactly to say what i want to say...
She lost the market credibility, the respect of the masses, the credibility as a powerhouse artist

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:14pm


"Anyone who thinks Madonna didn't know about those pictures or doesn't think they were part of her "master plan" is crazy. She obviously got on that horse and rode it, otherwise she would've disassociated herself with anything considered "vampy"."

Gitarzan...

When you're the biggest female star in USA, have the first album ever from a female artist (LAV)to sell over 5 million, you really, really don't need that kind of bad publicity, never, Modanna tried to stop those pics from being published, a backlash was inevitable, but she couldn't do anything about it
the rights to the pics belonged to the photographer, not Madonna..And that veanessa is not MAdonna

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:24pm


Madonna didn't try to stop the publication of those pictures, if she would've Hugh Hefner wouldn't have published them for the same reason he didn't publish Williams'...because she didn't want him to (he didn't want to ruin someone's career and understood the impact of her being the first black Miss America)). Bob Guccione from Penthouse quite frankly didn't care...and earned a lot of money from it. In Madonna's case, they both both published them, and she was both defiant and unapolgetic about it.

As for Vanessa Williams being no Madonna...you got that right...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:41pm


Gaven...even though I've given you a fairly accurate account of what happened with those pictures, I'm really the wrong person for you to be discussing Madonna with (for reasons that people who frequent this site already know). There are people who will arguably agree with your point of view, and I wish you luck and enjoyment on your conversations with them. If you'd like to discuss pretty much any other artist but her (or Steve Perry), I'd be happy to contribute...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:52pm


If MJ would have had naked pics revealed in 1980, would thriller had sold that much? 20 million, at the time, in USA? Doubtfully, 10 million at max...

Still True Blue, the magic, continued to live on, through The Immaculate Collection, the world's best selling GH album from a female artist, with over 30 million in sales. Madonna's 80's magic continues to sell through The Immaculate Collection, all over the world is a strong catalog seller, from UK to India, to USA, despite the scandals, the noise, Madonna has become the world's biggest selling female artist ever.

'Blender' named 'The Immaculate Collection' the best american album ever, and yes, the stuff right there, is pop perfetion, never matched

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 14:54pm


'earned a lot of money from it'..u got that right, they followed the money, not Madonna's reputatiom
She was unapologetic coz she didn't have a choice...
Steve Perry, Joutrey lol, your garbage from the 80's, unbearable garbage at its 'best'...

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 15:04pm


In USA, Journey's beat selling album - 15 Platinum, 15 million, lol, their best selling album is higher than Madonna's best selling. This is ducking outrageous, of coourse outside USA, they are nobodies, not like Madonna, the biggest selling American artist that USA has given to the world

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 15:14pm


Without Moddana being the lioness that she is, even if u go by the zodiacal sign, she would have never made it so far...Queen Of Pop

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 15:24pm


WHile a commercial act, Madonna also straddled the underground, and she showed that even more with how she chose to express herself in her work. She obviously didn't take the easy, safe route that many pop acts do- she had many points of view and interests in controversial topics, and that's what often drove her. Thank goodness, otherwise the music world would have been quite dull all those years. :) She had the music to back it up, though, so that's alsp what led to her being as revered and important as she is.

In terms of male and female over the last 25 years, its Madonna and Michael Jackson (even though his artistic greatness had suffered in the last 15 years). MJ addressed some things in his work, but not like Madonna; and in turn, one could say that Madonna wasnt' as naturally a gifted musician as MJ (but he also worked with collaborators like she has, so we'll never really know).

The two of them both have enjoyed incredible amounts of acclaim, so I just say to enjoy them both for their great contributions- they'll never be another like either, no matter how much the wanna-bes would like.

Posted by JR on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 16:45pm


I'm here on the IMMORTALS page to address a truly terible discrepancy. Simply put...


I searched on this site and I CANNOT FIND RIGHT SAID FRED!!!


There has never been a more immortal song than "I'm Too Sexy", & everyone on this site knows it, yet I languish here in pain, seeking to vote for them, but they are nowhere to be found.


I have to go do my little twirl on the catwalk now...

"I'm, too sexy for my cheese,
Too sexy for my cheese,
I'm the bee's knees"

I'm, too sexy for my crop,
Too sexy for my crop,
Cause you know I'm the tops"

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 19:21pm


I'm too sexy for my...CHEESE??????

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 20:11pm


JR...that was a pretty decent post...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 20:13pm


Honestly, right now a conversation about cheese would be more interesting than one about Madonna.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 07.12.09 @ 20:15pm


There are alot of major artists who didn't make Rolling Stone's list. CCR is of course one of the biggest misses. Also, not a single prog band made thier list either.

Posted by Dude Man on Thursday, 07.16.09 @ 12:12pm


I think this site made a mistake on the Most Comments list. Here it reads:
1. liam 2488
2. Gitarzan 1376
3. Dameon 1197
4. William 818
5. Philip 680
6. Anonymous 685
7. Cheesecrop 664
8. Keebord 622
9. mrxyz 622
10. SHAWN 776

When is 776 less than 622? And when is 680 greater than 685? Pretty sure never.

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 13:38pm


6. Anonymous 685

wHO IS HE? tHAT CcRAZY mADONNA FAN?

Posted by kRAMMER4hOLSTEIN on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 15:02pm


Only 20th Century Artists Should Be Inducted Into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 15:04pm


I know this has nothing to do with music but i just heard Walter Cronkite died and I want to pay my respects to the man.

RIP Walter

He was a legend "...and that's the way it is"

Posted by Brian on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 20:39pm


Ok... so we know now that Gaven...

1) Hates the U.S.
2) Hates Black people
3) Hates music before 1980

As far as most hits from an album... I think the U.S. version of A Hard Day's Night would have to hold that record... All four of George Martin's instrumental hits were on that one (one Hot 100, and three Bubbling Under hits). And the Beatles had... "A Hard Day's Night", "Can't Buy Me Love", "You Can't Do That", "And I Love Her", "If I Fell", "I Should Have Known Better", "I'll Cry Instead", and "I'm Happy Just To Dance With You". I believe that makes it 12, nine of them Hot 100.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 07.18.09 @ 01:23am


Only 20th Century Artists Should Be Inducted Into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 15:04pm

Roy - just stop it now with these ridiculous comments.

Posted by Dameon on Saturday, 07.18.09 @ 07:24am


After the 1979, pre-fame, naked pics were published on both Playboy and Penthouse in 1985, Madonna performed at Live AID, in Philadelphia,

people were jeering and booing her, crowds of people walked away from the front of the stage and you could see she was close to tears

the audience started to chant 'Who's a Slut!' before Into The Groove

Very telling of the general perception American people got on Madonna after those pics

Sooooo, I was right...
And the pics were published in BOTH Playboy and Penthouse, quite a general attack against Madonna. She was being blackmailed for sure, and the photographer was after the money, more money!

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 09:22am


Why don't you go on YouTube and watch it???? That crowd didn't exactly act like they were going to tar and feather her! As a matter of fact she's the one who brought it up by saying "I'm not taking anything off today"! If you don't believe me...GO WATCH IT ON YOUTUBE!!!!

If you weren't in America at the time, it's really idiotic to comment on what the musical climate was here. I live in a large metropolitan area, and there really wasn't that much of an uproar (other than she could've figured out what a razor was). A celebrity appearing nude in Playboy was nothing new...even then. Any celebrity with a counter-offer could've stopped their publication, and Madonna's antics since then clearly show that she got the attention she wanted from them...to think otherwise is just plain stupid...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 09:54am


Gitarzan, ur levels of idiocy r unbreakable

Counter-offer? Lol. Let's say I had the pictures, I call Madonna's manager, the biggest thing in music at the time. I want 100.000 dollars for the pics, deal done, but who could ensure he didn't duplicate the pics and, after receiving the money from Madonna's manager, he still sold 'em after that to Playboy and Penthouse?
Plus, he was not the only photographer to has the same kind of pics, naked pre-fame Madonna. Another one had another set of pics, he published 'em later, in 1991
To claim that Madonna wanted thos pics published

IS PLAIN NON-SENSE, PLAIN IDIOTIC AND RIDICULOUS, AGAINST ANY LOGIC

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 10:12am


To anyone who lives in the states and knows anything about Madonna at all, I'm sure my scenario makes perfect sense...her behavior dictates it. Besides that, there was stuff in "Truth or Dare", "Erotica", the "Blonde Ambition Tour" (which the pope attempted to have banned), and the book "Sex" that made those pictures look pretty tame. Did those things shock people in the states...not that I'm aware of!!!

It seems like as with most Madonna "fanboys" or "girls", you really have no fast clue what you're talking about. You would have us think that she fought through this "terrible injustice" (those pictures) and became a "mega-star" in spite of them, where all signs point to those pictures as being "part of the plan"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 11:55am


Gitar - you cannot comment on every single Madonna worshipper. It is not good for your health.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 17:34pm


I think it's like Chief Inspector Dreyfus' reaction to Clouseau in "The Pink Panther"...I read a comment by one of those people, and my eyes start twitching, etc...

You need to be careful or you'll start acting that way with Steve Perry comments...the condition really is quite annoying...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 17:42pm


"To anyone who lives in the states and knows anything about Madonna at all, I'm sure my scenario makes perfect sense...her behavior dictates it. Besides that, there was stuff in "Truth or Dare", "Erotica", the "Blonde Ambition Tour" (which the pope attempted to have banned), and the book "Sex" that made those pictures look pretty tame. Did those things shock people in the states...not that I'm aware of!!!

It seems like as with most Madonna "fanboys" or "girls", you really have no fast clue what you're talking about. You would have us think that she fought through this "terrible injustice" (those pictures) and became a "mega-star" in spite of them, where all signs point to those pictures as being "part of the plan"..."


Gitarzan, you are making a fool of yourself, you're such an IDIOT that it becomes grotesque, just leave it alone, you're clearly a dumbass
You just...it's not that you don't get it, you're an idiot, it's unbelievable how much of an idiot you and ur kind are

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 18:57pm


"Gitarzan, you are making a fool of yourself, you're such an IDIOT that it becomes grotesque, just leave it alone, you're clearly a dumbass
You just...it's not that you don't get it, you're an idiot, it's unbelievable how much of an idiot you and ur kind are"- Gaven

You just lost what credibility you had left with that.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:02pm


At first I thought that u were joking when talking bout certain maters, but u really r an idiot. It's unbelievable, ur stupidity makes me vomit

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:03pm


It's not about an injustice that she has fought or anything like, it's about objective fact: When u're a star, and she was such a star, with those kind of pics u're OVER, u're in NO MAN'S LAND, u're gonna be discredited for life
It don't matter if u're X or Y, Madonna or Clint Eastwood, it's just that the public perception will always look down upon you, no matter how talented or worthy u are
From a commercial point of view, u're over

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:21pm


Seeing as you write the words your, you, and are as "ur", "u", and "r" tells me your level of intelligence right off the bat.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:21pm


It's about the brand, the commercial brand.
While LAV album, singles and performances were acceptable and super OK, ironic and fun and girly etc, even the most puritan could have gone along with em,
those pics brought a 'shadow', resentment and the brand was clearly damaged

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:32pm


GAven's big dilemma is why Steve Perry is not in the Top 100 Immortals. This is not very hard to understand, generally speaking SP is a shallow fuk with no balls or talent, his music is boting and stereotype crap. U just have to look once at his face on a pic to realize why he's not in the Top 100

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:36pm


SP had a good voice, but he lacked ALL the rest, that maked a rock 'n roll star, like Elvis for example (well, these examples are very rare in fact, up to 10 max.). What kind of dilemma is that for Gitarzan?

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:42pm


Gitarzan is a Journey fan. I'm pretty sure according to him Journey is better than Elvis, whicj is another dumass consideration. What is that, a kind of perverted and twisted snobbery? It's plain fuked up, that is what it is, nothing more, nothing less
A true fan of Journey can't have the comprehention of what a true legend is, if he had one, he wouldn't be a fan of em

Posted by Gaven on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 19:51pm


Dude Man...I guess I musta struck a nerve. It's always the same thing with these clowns...can't present a good argument so they resort to name-calling! And who said anything about Journey...???? Oh, well...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 20:10pm


It is obvious that when making these lists, the main factor is popularity. There are plenty of bands/artists that deserve to be on that list, but aren't due to their popularity level.

It is obnoxious to see artists like Eminem on there. This is the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame, and in my opinion, rap artists don't belong here. I have nothing against rap artists, but their work should be credited in something like the RAP Hall of Fame. Bands like Maiden, Purple, Priest, Rush, the list goes on an on, deserve to be here. These are ROCK bands that have an everlasting impact on not just the genre of rock, but music period.

These people on the committee need to be slapped back into reality. To me, since it seems like lots of their nominees are due to what they think is popular, then they need to look at the public, and see what they want. It is quite obvious what bands deserve, and what bands don't deserve to be here.

I know I'm only adressing mainly metal artists, but there are plenty of other more rock artists that deserve to be there.

Posted by N/A on Sunday, 07.19.09 @ 21:16pm


' And who said anything about Journey...???? Oh, well...

Posted by Gitarzan'

How about, Gitarzan, taking a look at the first post on this thread? Who's complaining about SP not being in the
RS's Top 100 Immortals? You, sir!

Posted by Gaven on Monday, 07.20.09 @ 11:02am


I could care less about Steve Perry, dumbass!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.20.09 @ 11:06am


Dude Man...I guess I musta struck a nerve. It's always the same thing with these clowns...can't present a good argument so they resort to name-calling! And who said anything about Journey...???? Oh, well...

!!!

Posted by Gaven on Monday, 07.20.09 @ 11:10am


I love it... argue with a Madge Badge-er and the Badge-er will badger you with his/her uncanny prowess of the 1337 language. Seriously, you slowly watch the coherency of their posts break down and disintegrate, until we're left with a meager "!!!"

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 07.21.09 @ 17:46pm


I just had to share this with you people, found it stumbling through YouTube. A great live rendition of a classic rock song....I think MOST of you will like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE03gfToaD0&feature=related

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 07.21.09 @ 18:33pm


Here's the list of voters Rolling Stone used for the "Immortals" list:

Hal Blaine has been a session drummer on recordings by Elvis Presley, Phil Spector, the Beach Boys and many others.
Nathan Brackett is a senior editor at Rolling Stone, where he edits the record-reviews section.

Jackson Browne was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. Cliff Burnstein is the founder of QPrime Management, which handles Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Garbage.

Chuck D is a musician, writer and activist who founded Public Enemy in 1982.

Anthony DeCurtis has written for Rolling Stone for more than twenty years.

Neil Diamond's thirteen Top Ten hits include "Sweet Caroline," "Cherry, Cherry" and "Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon."

Bo Diddley, one of the inventors of rock & roll, began his career with Chess in 1955.

Dr. John has released nearly thirty albums of New Orleans funk, jazz and R&B.

The Edge started U2 with schoolmates Bono, Larry Mullen Jr. and Adam Clayton in 1978. They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame this year.

Jason Fine is an assistant managing editor at Rolling Stone.

Bill Flanagan is a writer as well as senior vice president and editorial director of MTV Networks International.

David Fricke is a senior editor at ROLLING STONE, where he has worked since 1985.

Gil Friesen was president of A&M Records for twenty-seven years and worked with Sting, Janet Jackson and the Carpenters.

Art Garfunkel had his first hit with Paul Simon -- a doo-wop song, "Hey, Schoolgirl" -- under the name Tom and Jerry in 1957.

David Geffen began his career managing artists including Laura Nyro and Crosby, Stills and Nash. He founded Asylum Records in 1971 and Geffen Records in 1977.

Billy Gibbons is a guitarist with ZZ Top, who were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2004.

Mikal Gilmore has been a writer for ROLLING STONE for more than twenty years.

Albert Hammond Jr., guitarist for the Strokes, lives in New York.

James Henke is the chief curator for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. He was music editor at ROLLING STONE from 1981 to 1993.

Don Henley launched his career in 1970 as the drummer in the Texas rock band Shiloh. He is a founding member of the Eagles.

Robert Hilburn is a pop-music critic and editor at the Los Angeles Times.

Chrissie Hynde worked as a rock critic for London's New Musical Express in 1974 before founding the Pretenders.

Don Ienner is the president of Sony Music Label Group U.S. He started working in the Capitol Records mailroom while in high school.

Lenny Kaye compiled Nuggets, a classic garage-rock anthology, in 1972. He plays guitar for the Patti Smith Group.

Jon Landau began his career at ROLLING STONE in 1967. He has produced albums for the MC5, Jackson Browne and Bruce Springsteen, whom he has managed for twenty-six years.

Joe Levy is a deputy managing editor at ROLLING STONE.

Kurt Loder is a correspondent at MTV and a ROLLING STONE contributing editor.

Greil Marcus was ROLLING STONE's first record-reviews editor. His books include Mystery Train, Lipstick Traces and Dead Elvis.

Joe McEwen is an A&R consultant who has worked with Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, Wilco and the Beastie Boys.

Moby released his first record with the punk group Vatican Commandos in 1983. His 1999 breakthrough, Play, sold 10 million copies.

Doug Morris wrote the Chiffons' 1966 hit "Sweet Talkin' Guy." He is now chairman and CEO of Universal Music Group.

Ric Ocasek was the lead singer for the Cars and has produced albums by Iggy Pop, Weezer and No Doubt.

Joe Perry has been playing guitar with Aerosmith since the band formed in 1970.

Antonio "LA" Reid, along with his partner Babyface, founded LaFace Records, home to TLC and OutKast. He is currently chairman of Island Def Jam Records.

Keith Richards started his career singing in a boys' choir that once performed for the queen of England. He has played guitar for the Rollling Stones since 1962.

Smokey Robinson had eighteen Top Thirty hits with the Miracles on Motown Records, and wrote and produced songs for Mary Wells and Marvin Gaye.

Rick Rubin co-founded Def Jam Records in 1984 from his New York University dorm room. He has produced albums for Run-DMC, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Johnny Cash.

Carlos Santana's band Santana debuted at Bill Graham's Fillmore West in 1968. The guitarist's 1999 album Supernatural sold 10 million copies and earned nine Grammys.

Mike Shinoda is a vocalist in Linkin Park, which won a 2001 Grammy for Best Hard Rock Performance for "Crawling."

Slash was the lead guitarist for Guns n' Roses and now plays with Velvet Revolver.

Bruce Springsteen has won ten Grammys and an Academy Award since he began releasing albums in 1973.

Seymour Stein is co-founder of Sire Records. He helped launch the careers of Madonna and the Ramones, and was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame this year.

Stephen Stills formed Buffalo Springfield in 1966. Two years later he joined Crosby, Stills and Nash, with whom he still tours.

Quentin Tarantino is a filmmaker and aficionado of soul, surf and obscure rock music.

Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson produces and plays drums for the Roots. He has played on albums by John Mayer, Joss Stone, D'Angelo and many others.

Pete Townshend began his career in the 1950s playing banjo in a Dixieland band with John Entwistle. Both were founding members of the Who in 1964.

Little Steven, guitarist for Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, hosts the radio show Little Steven's Underground Garage.

Butch Vig, drummer for Garbage, produced Nirvana's Nevermind and the Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream.

Bob Weir is a singer, songwriter and rhythm guitarist for the Dead.

Jann S. Wenner is the editor and publisher of ROLLING STONE. Last year, he was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Jerry Wexler is a producer and former vice president of Atlantic Records, where he guided the careers of Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin.

Lucinda Williams started writing songs as a teenager. Her music has earned three Grammys and has been covered by Tom Petty, Emmylou Harris and others.

Peter Wolf often visited Harlem's Apollo Theater as a kid to see Otis Redding and James Brown perform. He formed the J. Geils Band in the late 1960s and has recorded six solo albums.

Adam Yauch is a member of the Beastie Boys and a co-founder of the Tibetan Freedom Concerts

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 07.27.09 @ 12:41pm


http://www.hitparadehalloffame.org/index.html

You can vote at The Hit Parade Hall of Fame

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.27.09 @ 13:57pm


THE TOP 100 CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AS OF 2005. NEXT BOOK COMES OUT NEXT YEAR.

01. Elvis Presley
02. Frank Sinatra
03. The Beatles
04. Barbra Streisand
05. The Rolling Stones
06. Johnny Mathis
07. Elton John
08. Bob Dylan
09. Neil Diamond
10. The Temptations
11. The Beach Boys
12. Eric Clapton
13. Ray Conniff
14. Willie Nelson
15. Ray Charles
16. Rod Stewart
17. Mantovani
18. Aretha Franklin
19. Paul McCartney
20. David Bowie
21. Prince
22. James Brown
23. Pink Floyd
24. Andy Williams
25. Lawrence Welk
26. Neil Young
27. Bee Gees
28. Chicago
29. The Supremes
30. Henry Mancini
31. The Kingston Trio
32. Jimmy Buffett
33. Herb Alpert
34. Kenny Rogers/First Edition
35. Jimi Hendrix
36. Aerosmith
37. Stevie Wonder
38. Grateful Dead
39. Roger Williams
40. Fleetwood Mac
41. The Ventures
42. Led Zeppelin
43. Van Morrison
44. George Strait
45. Nat "King" Cole
46. Kiss
47. Linda Ronstadt
48. Metallica
49. Johnny Cash
50. Billy Vaughn
51. Bruce Springsteen
52. Diana Ross
53. Barry Manilow
54. Queen
55. Santana
56. The Who
57. Garth Brooks
58. Madonna
59. Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship
60. U2
61. Dionne Warwick
62. Billy Joel
63. John Denver
64. Rush
65. Mitch Miller
66. Michael Jackson
67. James Taylor
68. Harry Belafonte
69. The Isley Brothers
70. Alabama
71. The Lettermen
72. The Eagles
73. AC/DC
74. Nancy Wilson
75. Marvin Gaye
76. The Doors
77. Jethro Tull
78. Dolly Parton
79. Tony Bennett
80. The Kinks
81. Dean Martin
82. The Monkees
83. Joan Baez
84. Journey
85. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
86. Glen Campbell
87. Gladys Knight and The Pips
88. Earth, Wind & Fire
89. The Moody Blues
90. Frank Zappa
91. Mariah Carey
92. Anne Murray
93. Steve Miller Band
94. Enoch Light
95. Cher
96. Carole King
97. Daryl Hall & John Oates
98. Elvis Costello
99. Carly Simon
100. Bob Seger

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.28.09 @ 07:02am


where the hell are the smashing pumpkins, greatest body of work ever and they cant even make the list, billy corgan is a genius but no one wants to recognize that

Posted by Gianluca on Tuesday, 07.28.09 @ 10:02am


Leave it to Rolling Stone to put up another ridiculous and biased list. However, everyone must understand this is an entertainment magazine, it can't be taken too seriously. But really, no Floyd, Queen. Clapton not even in the top 50. SRV also? The Eagles paired with the likes of the beastie boys? Skynyrd and Santana behind eminem!? How do you stay in business. Haha o well.

Posted by Pittguy on Thursday, 08.27.09 @ 23:40pm


ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-2009):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, The Stooges, Joe Tex, Darlene Love, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, ABBA, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Beastie Boys, Donna Summer, War

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.4.09 @ 18:18pm


Sabbath is on one list at 85 and not on the other. What a way to snub the band that created the most powerful form of ROCK n ROLL.

Posted by Load on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 00:47am


Chuck Berry is the King of Rock and Roll my number #1 vote....I also agree, Pink Floyd is an obvious omission.

Posted by antimatterman on Monday, 09.28.09 @ 12:13pm


PROG TO THE ROCK HALL NOW!

01. Pink Floyd
02. Genesis
03. Deep Purple
04. Yes
05. Jethro Tull
06. King Crimson
07. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
08. Procol Harum
09. The Moody Blues
10. Rush

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 13:29pm


Pink Floyd are already in Roy and still no love for Uriah Heep Roy. Again, Purple you can't really call prog(unless you only listen to their first three albums.), though "Child in Time" may be early prog metal.

Posted by Dude Man on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 13:51pm


I know Pink Floyd is in. I just listed all the Prog Acts!

Rolling Stone gave all Uriah Heep albums 1 out of 5 stars. WHY?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 14:08pm


WHERE IS CHER? O SONNY AND CHER??? THIS IS A LACK OF RESPEC!!!!!! CHER IS CHER, OK.

Posted by Edgar on Saturday, 11.21.09 @ 18:41pm


happens with Cher, Bette Midler, Liza Minnelli, Pet Shop Boys, Barbra Streisand, who happens to them, what happens??? especially with Cher, more than 45 year career force, 200 million records sold certificates, winning Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, Tony, echos, cannes, Golden Globes, his farewell tour tour Reimbursement 300 million making it one of the most successful tours of the planet, that's what happens, who sees this??? are perhaps blinded by the career of a diva as Cher??? this is a pity to leave out the greatest music icon beloved by legions of fans around the world and even in spite of living proof his latest CD was issued in 2001 and sold 10 million copies, and his name still in force a show stable caesar palace, with a sellout she is an artist who deserves all the respect, for God is Cher!

Posted by Sebastian on Saturday, 11.21.09 @ 18:51pm


Where is Coney Hatch???

Posted by TheFaceOfRock on Monday, 11.23.09 @ 21:37pm


I love men...especially Elton John.

Posted by Labros on Tuesday, 12.8.09 @ 11:54am


Rolling Stone gave all Uriah Heep albums 1 out of 5 stars. WHY?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 14:08pm

Because Rolling Stone magazine also known as Rolling Stain Ragazine is full of ignorant hairy ass wipes that are obsessed with Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan!

Posted by Greg on Sunday, 12.13.09 @ 09:04am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
http://www.rockhall.com

262 inductees in 25 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees - BEST YEAR EVER!
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees - WORST YEAR EVER!
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees
2010 - 13 inductees

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-2010):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Darlene Love, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Beastie Boys, Donna Summer, War, KISS, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers, LL Cool J

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 07:53am


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

NON-PERFORMER CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 Alan Freed
1986 Sam Phillips
1987 Leonard Chess
1987 Ahmet Ertegun
1987 Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
1987 Jerry Wexler
1988 Berry Gordy, Jr
1989 Phil Spector
1990 Gerry Goffin and Carole King
1990 Holland-Dozier-Holland
1991 Dave Bartholomew
1991 Ralph Bass
1992 Leo Fender
1992 Bill Graham
1992 Doc Pomus
1993 Dck Clark
1993 Milt Gabler
1994 Johnny Otis
1995 Paul Ackerman
1996 Tom Donahue
1997 Syd Nathan
1998 Allen Toussaint
1999 George Martin
2000 Clive Davis
2001 Chris Blackwell
2002 Jim Stewart
2003 Mo Ostin
2008 Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff
2010 David Geffen
2010 Jesse Stone
2010 Mort Shuman
2010 Otis Blackwell
2010 Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
2010 Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich

LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 John Hammond
1991 Nesuhi Ertegun
2004 Jann Wenner
2005 Frank Barsalona
2005 Seymour Stein
2006 Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 09:55am


It's obvious, Jann Wenner publishes Rolling Stone. He's also behind The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Missing from The Hall: Chicago, Moody Blues, Joe Cocker, Jethro Tull, 3 Dog night, Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Alice cooper, B.T.O., ELO, Doobies, Zombies, Turtles, Herman's Hermits, spencer Davis group, Tommy James, Fifth Dimension, Procol Harum, Ten years After, Steve Miller, Dr. John, Warren Zevon, Supertramp, Bad Co. ,Peter Frampton, Hall and Oates, Johnny winter, and the list can go on and on. The list is bogus, The Hall of Fame is bogus. Quoting The Sex Pistols upon their induction last year, "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is nothing but a piss stain".

Posted by angelo1962 on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 12:24pm


ummmmm the doors should be way higher than that!

Posted by Bill on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 16:51pm



First thing:why are all of u blaming it on RS? VH1 also made a list.

Right side of RS and VH1
Everybody is blaming it on RS. Dont we all have different opinions. I think MIchael Jackson, all due respect to him, shouldnt be in this list. But obviously RS has another opinion. So we need to have respect for them.

Wrong side of RS and VH1
RS cant just start saying that rock n roll started in the late 50s early 20s. You have to go back, rock wasnt born, it has evolved and called different names. Before they used to call it the blues,and the blues goes back to 19th century. I dont see Charley Patton on that list and what about Bukka White, or Son House?



Posted by Hochman on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:12pm


I meant late 50s and early 60s not 20s

Posted by Hochman on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:14pm


For starters, RS had a "100 greatest guitar players" list that was the biggest crock of bull I'd ever seen...whoever came up with that list probably wouldn't even know how to hold one...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:26pm


"RS had a "100 greatest guitar players" list that was the biggest crock of bull I'd ever seen" - Gitarzan

That list was a disgrace. An insult to music

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:54pm


Allow me to display some of the "highlights" of that list...

Jerry Garcia (13)
Kurt Cobain (12)...both over Jeff Beck at (14).

Eddie Van Halen (70)
Randy Rhoads (85)...FAR behind Johnny Ramone at (16)!!!!

Totally ommitted from the list;
-Eric Johnson
-Django Reinhardt
-Al DiMeola
-Zakk Wylde
-Wes Montgomery

Oh, but Joni Mitchell (70) and Joan Jett (87) WERE on it

Just a total and complete CROCK...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 15:19pm


I believe David Gilmour was 82....Have you heard the guitar solo in "Comfortably Numb?" Kurt Cobain at 12 and Gilmour at 82???? They can't be serious

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 15:28pm


that list sucked but jerry garcia is much better than jeff beck!

Posted by dead on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 06:06am


Gitarzan, I have heard that Joanie Mitchell has some unusual way of playing the guitar. Maybe that was why they had her rated so high on that infernal list.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 06:08am


Jerry Garcia couldn't outplay ME...that's how much he belongs on that list!!!!

Joni Mitchell uses a wide variety of tunings (almost every song, as a matter of fact), which really isn't that unusual except for the frequency. Roland recently came up with a system where a sound engineer can change her tunings from a remote (the guitar she uses for that looks kind of like a Stratocaster)...which means she doesn't have to change guitars all night and her tech isn't constantly re-tuning. Interesting...but not so unusual. As an example; a standard guitar tuning is EBGDAE, the song "Kashmir" by Zeppelin is tuned to DADGAD...it just makes it easier to play. All of Van Halen's guitars have a switch on the bridge where he can switch to "D" tuning almost instantly.

Another example of how ridiculous that list is...Alan Holdsworth. One of the most unique and innovative players around, and he doesn't rate being on their coveted "list". This list prompted "Guitar Player" magazine to come up with a "Top 50" list that made WAY more sense...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 08:48am


Another interesting ommission from that dubious "list" (which I took the liberty to paste on here)...Chet Atkins! Joan Jett is a "greater player" than Chet Atkins...we're entering the realm of "insane" here...

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitarists_of_all_time/print

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 09:28am


Next to James Brown - true innovators in the Funk field has to be Tower of Power. As the saying goes, Often imitated but never duplicated

Posted by Sandy on Tuesday, 12.22.09 @ 15:53pm


To Philip, Cheesecrop, Dameon, Keebord (and the rest of the "house band"), mrxyz, Steve Z, Roy, and all the other regulars...a Christmas Card;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xam01uaj6Vg

Merry Christmas, everyone!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 12.24.09 @ 14:16pm


What I get no "Merry Christmas"? Anyway take care everyone and have a happy new year.

Posted by Dude Man on Thursday, 12.24.09 @ 14:38pm


Sorry about the ommission, Dudester, but you are one of the "regulars, to be sure!!!

So, it's "double barks" for you...be safe!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 12.24.09 @ 14:46pm


Digital Dream Door lists Roy Brown, Wynonie Harris, and The Ravens as the only Immortals among Early Influence candidates.

The father of the modern day solo artist in many ways and a crucial influence on New Orleans rock, not to mention revered by artists from Elvis Presley to James Brown. The writer of "Good Rockin' Tonight", which many call the first rock song, and possessor of two #1 R&B Hits, plus one of rock's first classic sides in "Rockin' At Midnight". Brown should've been in by year two at the latest, yet here it is more than 20 years later and he's still on the outside looking in. If a voter can't identify at least three of Roy Brown's songs they're not qualified to even discuss rock 'n' roll history credibly, let alone vote on its greatest artists.

Other than Louis Jordan no other Early Influence on Rock was as MUCH of an influence on rock's birth as Harris was. The prototypical rock frontman - dashing in appearance, exuding sexuality on stage and a hellraiser off it - his work in the 40's and early 50's literally made rock possible. In "Good Rockin' Tonight" he popularized the term itself and followed that up with "All She Wants To Do Is Rock", another #1 hit that only solidified the expression in the public consciousness. His failure to be voted in as an Early Influence while pop crooner Nat Cole makes it in under that designation is the equivalent of inducting Perry Como to the Rock Hall before Elvis Presley. By far the most important artist in any category not yet in.

The true father of the modern black vocal group has been ignored for two decades of voting while the Ink Spots, a fine group but one that were well before the Ravens (and therefore well before rock 'n' roll) as well as being much farther removed stylistically from rock's origins, were inducted instead. The Ravens two lead singer format, featuring high tenor Maithe Marshall and legendary bass Jimmy Ricks, was extremely innovative and influential while their songs paved the way for the vocal group explosion of the 50's. Even their name instigated a huge onslaught of "bird groups" in rock's first decade and their unique adaptation of standards set that as a precedent in vocal harmony outfits as well. Criminal that they haven't gotten in yet as one of the true early influences.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.24.09 @ 20:18pm


The Digital Dream Door's Immortals among Sidemen Candidates:

Lee Allen

One of the most prolific saxophonists of the 50's, featured prominently on hit records for Little Richard, Fats Domino, Lloyd Price and a host of others, and in the 80's was still recording with the Blasters. He defined the New Orleans carnival sax sound that dominated the era and even cut instrumental hits on his own ("Walkin' With Mr. Lee"). It is almost incomprehensible how Allen wasn't one of the first inductees in this category.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals


Mickey "Guitar" Baker

Half of 50's rock duo Mickey & Sylvia who had the huge hit with "Love Is Strange", but even more crucial in Baker's career was his immense sessionwork that literally helped create the rock guitar style as we know it. At a time when rock was saxophone and piano driven Baker was the guitarist who changed that even before Berry, Moore and Diddley came along. Without question the first rock guitar king who's influence down through the years is incalculable. A mandatory inductee who should've been in from year one.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.25.09 @ 09:29am


The Immortals among Non-Performer Candidates according to Digital Dream Door:

Jesse Stone - 2010 Inductee

Tom Dowd

The single most important engineer in rock history, vital in advancing recording techniques including the advent of stereo multi-track recording, of which he was a pioneer. One of the nicest human beings who ever graced rock 'n' roll recently passed on rendering any honor to him here posthumous, which is an absolute disgrace considering he should've been inducted a quarter century ago. If they finally put him in there'd be a line of superstar artists a mile long wanting to give the induction speech for him.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals


Cosimo Matassa

Owner of the legendary J&M Recording Studio in New Orleans which churned out countless hits from the late 40's onward, in the process defining the sound of New Orleans rock and setting the template for independent studios forever more. Arguably Matassa recorded more vital rock records than any human being ever and since that is what the Hall claims to be celebrating they ought to name an entire wing after this man, but an induction while he's still with us to enjoy the recognition on earth will do.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals


Willie Mitchell

A legendary figure who could be considered as a solo performer (numerous hits as an instrumentalist), or as a sideman (he played trumpet on dozens of major records), but it is the non-performer category where he might be best suited. He built Hi Records into a dominant label after taking over its ownership when its owners died years after he had started out there as an artist and producer in the early 60's. He subsequently shaped the career of Al Green and much of 70's Memphis soul during the label's glory years. That alone should allow him to walk in without question and as an all-around music figure he is a mandatory induction who's entry is long overdue.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals


Wolfman Jack

The most legendary rock 'n' roll DJ outside of Alan Freed, the Wolfman rose to fame by broadcasting from border radio stations just inside Mexico, taking advantage of their massive half million watt singles that beamed his hypnotic growl and voice and his crazed off-the-cuff skits halfway around the world. During the 60's he kept rock 'n' roll's wild dangerous image on the dial to everyone within earshot, then in the 70's finally showed his face by playing a vital role in the acclaimed film "American Graffiti" and hosting "The Midnight Special", which featured live performances of hundreds of rock artists over the years on its network television run.

Qualifications: 10 - The Immortals

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.25.09 @ 09:42am


Hey Roy, how about posting the Digital Dream Door ratings of some of the Non-Performers we've brought up on this site: Bernie Taupin, Doug Morris (who supposedly will get in next year), Bernie Lowe, Kal Mann, Dave Appell, P.F. Sloan, Steve Barri, Bob Crewe, Van McCoy (he had a couple hits, but really belongs in more as a Non-Performer) and even Richard Barrett.

Can you spring that for us?

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 12.26.09 @ 23:23pm


How about not, Roy? He puts up enough stupid lists now anyway. All you are doing is encouraging him. Just go to Digital Dream Door yourself and look them up.

Posted by Brian on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 06:18am


NIN more immortal than Lynard Skynard...I think not..

Posted by Alec L on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 22:02pm


How about yes, Roy? I went to DDD, tried the search function and just got a bunch of stupid google results. If I wanted that, I'd go to google.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 05:58am


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2010.html

You are not using the Digital Dream Door site properly.

Click on the link above and look for this on the top of the page and choose the selection you want.

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)
1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

Candidates A-C | Candidates C-H | Candidates H-M | Candidates M-S | Candidates S-Z

50 Unlikely Candidates | Sidemen Candidates | Early Influences
Outside Genre Possibilities | Non-Performers | 2010 Nominees

DDD does not have every single artist who is not in the rock hall listed and rated on their site. Just like FRL doesn't.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 06:11am


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/index.html

THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR HOMEPAGE

Digital Dream Door is based out of Clearwater, Florida

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 06:15am


It's a great list for a breakdown of what you're looking for (presumably) in regards to the Rock Hall.

I would ask one question regarding their rankings. They list the following as # 8-10:

8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - Immortals

Kind of makes you wonder, if an artist has unquestioned credentials, why they'd have to pass through stage 9 (Dominant Artist) to get to the Immortals at 10. If you're credentials are unquestioned, shouldn't you be acknowledged as a dominant artist already? (lol)

It's still a solid ranking system, depending upon where you place the little nooks and crannies of an artists career.

I'll have the Thomas's English Muffins Nooks & Crannies Scale for you later on...

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 06:25am


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_halloffame_non.html

NOT LISTED OR RATED ON DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

Bernie Taupin, Doug Morris (who supposedly will get in next year), Bernie Lowe, Kal Mann, Dave Appell, P.F. Sloan, Steve Barri, Bob Crewe, Van McCoy

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 06:41am


From Digital Dream Door

Richard Barrett

The man who essentially conceived the girl group idiom with Chantels in the 50's and then a decade later managed to update the style in the 70's with the Three Degrees. A songwriter and performer as lead singer of the doo wop group The Valentines, he quickly moved to the other side of the business and discovered such legendary artists as Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers and Little Anthony & The Imperials, before switching much of his focus to female artists. Barrett was successful in all areas of rock music he tried and did as much to level the playing field for women in rock as anyone.

Qualifications: 9 - Dominant Artist

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 06:48am


Actually, I did find Bob Crewe on there, too. He's ranked as an 8. Gives me hope.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 12.28.09 @ 17:58pm


THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S 119 CANDIDATES FOR INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME IN THE PERFORMERS CATEGORY:

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)
1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

001. Johnny Ace - 8
002. B-52's - 5
003. Afrika Bambaataa - 7
004. The Beastie Boys - 8
005. Jesse Belvin - 6
006. Big Maybelle - 5
007. Blood, Sweat & Tears - 5
008. Kurtis Blow - 6
009. Gary "U.S." Bonds - 5
010. Boston - 5
011. Jerry Butler - 7
012. The Cadillacs - 5
013. Canned Heat - 5
014. James Carr - 5
015. The Cars - 7
016. Clarence Carter - 5
017. Gene Chandler - 6
018. Chic - 7
019. Chicago - 5
020. The Chiffons - 5
021. The Chi-Lites - 7
022. The Clovers - 8
023. Joe Cocker - 5
024. Phil Collins - 6
025. The Commodores - 6
026. Alice Cooper - 7
027. Don Covay - 5
028. Dick Dale - 6
029. Def Leppard - 6
030. Deep Purple - 7
031. The Delfonics - 6
032. Dire Straits - 6
033. The Dominoes - 8
034. Donovan - 6
035. The Doobie Brothers - 6
036. Dr. John - 7
037. Lee Dorsey - 6
038. Electric Light Orchestra - 5
039. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - 6
040. The "5" Royales - 7
041. The Five Keys - 5
042. Eddie Floyd - 5
043. Flying Burrito Brothers - 6
044. The Go-Go's - 7
045. Lesley Gore - 5
046. Grand Funk Railroad - 5
047. Hall & Oates - 7
048. Screamin' Jay Hawkins - 6
049. Heart - 7
050. Ivory Joe Hunter - 6
051. Iron Maiden - 6
052. Janet Jackson - 7
053. Rick James - 5
054. Tommy James & The Shondells - 6
055. Jan & Dean - 7
056. Jethro Tull - 6
057. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - 5
058. Journey - 5
059. Judas Priest - 5
060. Kansas - 5
061. King Crimson - 6
062. Ben E. King - 6
063. Kool & The Gang - 7
064. Kraftwerk - 5
065. Major Lance - 5
066. Huey Lewis & The News - 7
067. Little Feat - 5
068. Love - 5
069. Lonnie Mack - 5
070. The Manhattans - 5
071. The Marvelettes - 7
072. The MC5 - 6
073. Harold Melvin And The Bluenotes - 6
074. The Meters - 7
075. The Steve Miller Band - 7
076. The Monkees - 7
077. The Moody Blues - 5
078. Motorhead - 6
079. New York Dolls - 5
080. Ted Nugent - 5
081. The Ohio Players - 5
082. "Little Esther" Phillips - 6
083. The Pointer Sisters - 7
084. Procol Harum - 5
085. Paul Revere & The Raiders - 6
086. Rufus featuring Chaka Khan - 7
087. Rush - 7
088. Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels - 5
089. Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs - 5
090. Shirley & Lee - 6
091. Sonny & Cher - 5
092. The Spinners - 6
093. Ringo Starr - 5
094. Steppenwolf - 5
095. Billy Stewart - 5
096. The Stray Cats - 5
097. The Stylistics - 7
098. Styx - 5
099. Johnnie Taylor - 6
100. Joe Tex - 7
101. Carla Thomas - 6
102. Irma Thomas - 5
103. Rufus Thomas - 6
104. Three Dog Night - 5
105. Toots & The Maytals - 7
106. The Treacherous Three - 5
107. Tina Turner - 7
108. The Turtles - 5
109. Junior Walker & The All-Stars - 6
110. War - 7
111. Johnny "Guitar" Watson - 6
112. Mary Wells - 7
113. Barry White - 7
114. Larry Williams - 6
115. Otis Williams & The Charms - 5
116. Chuck Willis - 7
117. Link Wray - 6
118. Yes - 6
119. Warren Zevon - 7

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 06:49am


THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S 41 CANDIDATES FOR INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME IN THE EARLY INFLUENCE CATEGORY:

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)
1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

01. Faye Adams - 7
02. Archibald - 5
03. Tiny Bradshaw - 7
04. Roy Brown - 10
05. Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup - 5
06. Larry Darnell - 7
07. The Dixie Hummingbirds - 8
08. Billy Eckstine - 5
09. Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi - 7
10. Cecil Gant - 6
11. Lionel Hampton - 6
12. Wynonie Harris - 10
13. Bull Moose Jackson - 7
14. Illinois Jacquet - 7
15. Buddy & Ella Johnson - 6
16. Julia Lee - 8
17. Joe Liggins - 8
18. Nellie Lutcher - 6
19. Percy Mayfield - 8
20. Big Jay McNeely - 8
21. Amos Milburn - 8
22. Lucky Millinder - 7
23. Roy Milton - 7
24. Wild Bill Moore - 5
25. Joe Morris - 6
26. Charley Patton - 7
27. The Pilgrim Travelers - 8
28. Jimmy Preston - 5
29. The Ravens - 10
30. Johnnie Ray - 7
31. The Sensational Nightingales - 6
32. Pine Top Smith - 5
33. Sister Rosetta Tharpe - 9
34. Willie Mae "Big Mama" Thornton - 5
35. The Treniers - 8
36. Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson - 6
37. Clara Ward Singers - 8
38. Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams - 6
39. Sonny Boy Williamson II - 6
40. Jimmy Witherspoon - 5
41. Billy Wright - 7

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 07:48am


THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S 32 CANDIDATES FOR INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME IN THE SIDEMEN CATEGORY:

QUALIFICATIONS (on a scale of 1-10)
1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

01. Lee Allen - 10
02. Jerry Allison - 9
03. Jack Ashford - 6
04. Bob Babbitt - 6
05. Mickey "Guitar" Baker - 10
06. "Daddy" Gene Barge - 8
07. Aston "Family Man" Barrett - 7
08. Gil Bernal - 5
09. Michael Bloomfield - 8
10. Terry Bozzio - 7
11. Bobby Byrd - 6
12. Al Casey - 6
13. Clarence Clemons - 8
14. Tommy Cogbill - 8
15. Cornell Dupree - 6
16. Panama Francis - 6
17. Cliff Gallup - 9
18. Jim Gordon - 7
19. Jerome Green - 8
20. Mick Green - 5
21. Peter Green - 6
22. Herb Hardesty - 9
23. Roger Hawkins - 9
24. The Hi-Rhythm Section - 8
25. Nicky Hopkins - 8
26. The Jordanaires - 7
27. Carole Kaye - 7
28. Jim Keltner - 8
29. Bobby Keys - 6
30. Al Kooper - 8
31. The Memphis Horns - 9
32. David "Fathead" Newman - 6

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 08:38am


THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S 10 OUTSIDE GENRE POSSIBILITIES FOR INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. NOT RATED.

Joan Baez
The Caravans
Guitar Slim
Roy Hamilton
Herbie Hancock
Richie Havens
Albert King
Willie Nelson
Ravi Shankar
Jimmy Smith

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 08:53am


Regarding the DDD ratings that Roy posted:

ELO is a '5'.

Huey Lewis & the News is a '7'

That says it all about whomever rated the acts.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 12:57pm


http://forums.nutsie.com/index.php

THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR FORUM/MESSAGEBOARD.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.5.10 @ 12:44pm


where is metallica on this list

Posted by jacob beahm on Monday, 01.18.10 @ 18:50pm


Aside from the first two Rock Hall induction ceremonies, I've noticed that the Rock Hall inducts the most artists at the start of a new decade. Is this intentional?

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
2000 - 14 inductees
2010 - 13 inductees

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.19.10 @ 05:37am


Aside from the first two Rock Hall induction ceremonies, I've noticed that the Rock Hall inducts the most artists at the start of a new decade. Is this intentional?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.19.10 @ 05:37am
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Unconscious reflex action, I'm betting. At least I don't think there's anything special there. Chalk it up to the awareness of a new decade.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 01.19.10 @ 18:48pm


The MIRACLES ARE one of the Top 50 IMMORTALS ...but not only are they NOT in...they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN CONSIDERED !!! WHY??

They meet , and exceed ,every possible requirement for induction. Their "influence" factor is through the roof !! Over 50 of their songs have been covered by SCORES OF OTHER ARTISTS!! They were a major inflrence on the British Invasion" groups in particular. The Beatles, Stones, Hollies, The Who, and numerous others have covered Miracles tunes. Also, artists from EVERY MAJOR MUSICAL GENRE HAVE AS WELL.Don't believe it ? check out this list:

The Miracles, Motown's first group, are far and away ,the most covered Motown group of all time. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world - in every major musical genre - over the last 50 years.[21] ,including Pop, Rock,Country & Western, Disco, Reggae, Bluegrass,Grunge, MOR/Easy Listening,Acapella,Jazz,and Rap/Hip-Hop, as well as Soul/R&B. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Among these are:

"Going to a Go-Go" - The Rolling Stones, The Hags, and Secret Affair.
"I Second That Emotion" - Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jose Feliciano.
"(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " - The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's
"If You Can Want" - The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon.
"Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere") , Freeway
"Much Better Off" - J Dilla.
"You've Got The Love I Need" -J Dilla.
"A Legend In Its Own Time" - J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven").
"Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair.
"I Don't Blame You At All"- Rosetta Hightower.
"Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark.
"You're So Fine and Sweet"- The Undertakers.
"I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels.
"Would I Love You"-Len Barry.
"Happy Landing"- The Temptations.
"Special Occasion- Jim Gilstrap.
"I'll Try Something New" - Diana Ross & The Supremes with The Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me")
"My Girl Has Gone" - Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker.
"Yester Love" - Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra.
"The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" - The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques
"Love Machine" - Wham!, Thelma Houston
"Determination" - The Contours.
Choosey Beggar - Chazz Dixon.
"I've Been Good To You" - Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations.
"Mickey's Monkey" - Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters.
"More Love" - Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb.
"Ooo Baby Baby" - Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature
"Shop Around" - Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, among numerous others.
"The Tears of a Clown" - La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff
"The Tracks of My Tears " - Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamaria, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others
"Darling Dear" - The Jackson Five.
"Who's Loving You" - The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa.
" You've Really Got a Hold on Me" - Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, and She & Him among many others.
"I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" - The Who, Jimmy James.
"From Head to Toe" - Elvis Costello, Chris Clark
"A Fork in the Road " - Rebbie Jackson
"Way Over There" - The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr.
"(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" - Chuck Jackson
"What's So Good About Goodbye" - Giant Sunflower, The Temptations
"More, More, More of Your Love" - Bob Brady & the Con Chords
"Doggone Right" - Bobby Davis.
"After All" - The Supremes, The Marvelettes.
"Swept For You Baby" - The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).
"The Hurt is Over" - The DT's
"Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore.
"Save Me" - The Undertones
"(You Can) Depend On Me" - The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway.
"Baby Baby Don't Cry" - Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt.
"Can You Love a Poor Boy" - Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker.
"Bad Girl" - Dazz Band.
"That's What Love Is Made Of" - Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians.
"We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts
"Here I Go Again" - Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones.
"Point It Out"' - The Supremes and The Temptations.
"Got A Job" - The Marcels
"Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" - The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson.
"Give Me Just Another Day" - Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5")
"Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited).

.....But THAT group's not worthy of induction ?

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 02.5.10 @ 07:48am


There is something very strange going on at the Rock Hall when the biggest names in 60s Folk music have not been inducted or nominated yet!!

The Kingston Trio
Peter, Paul and Mary
Joan Baez
Judy Collins
Phil Ochs
Buffy Sainte-Marie

But they nominated Laura Nyro!! I guess because she wrote more of her own material and was a better writer. They inducted Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie and Lead Belly. Now what about the rest!!!!?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.10.10 @ 07:41am


VH1's Top 100 Artists of Rock And Roll History as voted on by the artists themselves back in 1998.

The only 12 artists on the list who have not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet:

42. Nirvana
53. Peter Gabriel
63. Sting
67. Kiss
70. Stevie Ray Vaughan
77. John Coltrane
80. Tina Turner
82. Devo
83. Iggy Pop
84. T. Rex
85. Carole King
90. Tom Waits

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.13.10 @ 06:56am


Roy....you forgot the group at # 61 on the VH-1 Top 100 list.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 02.13.10 @ 19:31pm


VH1's Top 100 Artists of Rock And Roll History as voted on by the artists themselves back in 1998.

The only 13 artists on the list who have not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet:

42. Nirvana
53. Peter Gabriel
61. The Miracles
63. Sting
67. Kiss
70. Stevie Ray Vaughan
77. John Coltrane
80. Tina Turner
82. Devo
83. Iggy Pop
84. T. Rex
85. Carole King
90. Tom Waits

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.14.10 @ 05:09am


Thanks, Roy. (LOL) I just didn't want The Miracles forgotten.It certainly looks like the RRHOF Induction Committee has.

Actually, The Miracles are on all 3 lists of the Top 100 Artists of All Time, VH-1's, Rolling Stone's , and Billboard Magazine's, I can't understand their justification for ignoring them.

Everything that The Miracles ever did, they did as a group. They wrote songs together (Smokey didn't write all those hits by himself), They recorded together, toured together ,produced songs together....so why did he get inducted alone ? There is NO REASONABLE EXPLAINATION FOR IT.

The Village Voice,in it's issue of Oct 30th 2009,in commenting on the Rock Hall's 25th Anniversary Concert, made this comment:

"Meanwhile, soul legend Smokey Robinson, who sang "Tracks of My Tears" with Wonder, expresses remorse that his band, the Miracles, aren't members. None of the musicians take the Rock Hall lightly--except David Crosby, who compares it to the way his cinematographer father used his Oscar as a doorstop." (end of quote).

Even Smokey knows his group should be in. Hopefully, he'll DO something about it.

The RRHOF inducted The Impressions (and Curtis Mayfield separately), The Jackson Five (and Michael separately), The Beatles (and 3 of their individual members separately) , there's no reason why they can't do it for The Miracles .This group is TOO INFLUENTIAL and IMPORTANT for their many accomplishments to be simply swept under the rug and forgotten.

On a side note: I thought Tina was already inducted with Ike ? (although her accomplishments since Ike also definitely merit separate induction). Isn't Carole King also in ?

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 02.14.10 @ 11:07am


Ike and Tina Turner are in, but Tina Turner is not in for her solo career. She can be inducted again as a solo artist. Carole King was inducted in the non-performers category in 1990 as Gerry Goffin and Carole King. She still qualifies for being inducted again in the performers category. She was nominated for induction in the performers category in 1988 for the 1989 induction ceremony and lost. Tina Turner has been nominated to be nominated but hasn't made the final nominees list yet for any year.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.14.10 @ 15:50pm


Dr. Dre does deserve to be in this list seeing as he is one of the greatest orchestrators of music history.....

Posted by ChaCha on Saturday, 02.27.10 @ 06:06am


We're missing who inducted Robert Johnson, T-Bone Walker, Hank Williams, Ahmet Ertegun, Jimmy Yancey, Jimmie Rodgers, Leonard Chess, Jerry Wexler

--Future Rock Legends

It's in the book "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: The First 25 Years, 2009, by Holly George Warren

I don't know if it is Robert Palmer the singer or Robert Palmer the writer for Rolling Stone magazine.

1986 - Robert Johnson by Robert Palmer
1986 - Jimmy Yancey by ???????
1986 - Jimmie Rodgers by Jerry Wexler

1987 - Ahmet Ertegun by Jann S. Wenner and Walter Yetnikoff
1987 - Jerry Wexler by Jann S. Wenner
1987 - Leonard Chess by ??????
1987 - Hank Williams by Seymour Stein
1987 - T-Bone Walker by Seymour Stein
1987 - Louis Jordan by Seymour Stein

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 01:11am


THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S LIST OF IMMORTALS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET:

QUALIFICATION RATING: 10 - THE IMMORTALS

01. Lee Allen
02. Mickey "Guitar" Baker
03. Roy Brown
04. Wynonie Harris
05. The Ravens
06. Tom Dowd
07. Cosimo Matassa
08. Willie Mitchell
09. Wolfman Jack

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 03:35am


R.I.P. RON BANKS 1951-2010

RON BANKS, The leader and founding member of the legendary R&B vocal group THE DRAMATICS paased away on 3/04/10 of a massive heart attack . one of the all time great groups of R&B, THE DRAMATICS SCORED OVER 40 CHART HITS ON THE R&B CHARTS , including the million- sellers WHAT YOU SEE Is WHAT YOU GET, and IN THE RAIN , as well as the Certified Gold album , DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO. Banks was 58.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 11:22am


What about Leon Russell? He has done more than most of the current inductees. Shindig; Mad Dogs and Englishmen; Concert for Bangladesh; Clapton; super sideman; super writer - Delta Lady, Tightwire, A Song for You; hits for everyone. Why isn't HE in the Hall of Fame? Shame, shame, shame.

Posted by unca hubie on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 14:05pm


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/music0.html

THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR MUSIC LISTS

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 15:19pm


In view of the recent passing of group leader / founder RON BANKS, I cant help but ask: Is there a site for THE DRAMATICS on Future Rock Legends ? I was looking, but couldn't find one.

Posted by BillG on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 13:17pm


There is no page for the Dramatics yet. Click on "Contact Us" on the left of the screen and tell them to add them and anyone else you have not seen listed yet. Click on "Complete List of Artists" to see what is available first. FRL had added pages for over 100 artists already from emails that I have sen them.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.10.10 @ 13:34pm


http://rockhall.com/

The Rock Hall has got a new looking website now and they have stoped posting timelines with the inductee bios and they have removed the timelines from all the past inductees bios as well! That sucks! Oh well, we can always read them on the Way Back Machine!-Internet archives.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 09:43am


"RS had a "100 greatest guitar players" list that was the biggest crock of bull I'd ever seen" - Gitarzan

That list was a disgrace. An insult to music

Posted by Keebord on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 14:54pm

Yeah. Joan Jett (whom I like and respect greatly, though not for any amazing guitar work) ahead of Tony Iommi, Kim Thayil and Angus Young. Oh, and Kurt Cobain (great songwriter, okay guitarist) and Jerry Garcia and Johnny Ramone and Jack White, The Edge, John Frusciante and Tom Morello (I like some of them as well) ahead of all three of those guys, and ahead of Brian May, Randy Rhoads, David Gilmour, Ritchie Blackmore, Eddie Van Halen, Jeff Beck, Carlos Santana, Richard Thompson, Mark Knopfler, Joe Perry, Dickey Betts, Steve Howe and Dave Davies. Unbelievable, huh? The good: It was a diverse list. The bad: Since they had both simple, no-solos people (Johnny Ramone, Joan Jett), people who took the less-is-more soulful approach to playing, and people who were both technical and less-is-more, I couldn't really figure out what criteria they were using. They did seem to sometimes use innovation and influence, and sometimes their opinion of the playing was enough to outdo the lack of both. Missing from the list: Glenn Tipton/KK Downing, Dave Murray/Adrian Smith, Gary Moore, Brian Robertson/Scott Gorham, Ted Nugent (okay, that's debatable)... some others.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 17:31pm


"The show opened in the mid-60's, and they couldn't do enough to hide 1950's America from the proceedings. They attempted to hide Elvis/Little Richard/Berry/Jerry Lee, and all the rest while pretending that they invented rock. Oh, I forgot, ROCK is different from rock & roll (LOL!!!). One of the biggest cons ever perpetrated." There are actually many people who disagree with you there. There are many who feel that rock & roll. Check out this article from MTV (okay, it's true that the two names mentioned in there are Brits, but still)... http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1452945/03182002/black_sabbath.jhtml

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 17:46pm


Sam...what makes that list even more appalling is the fact that it's called "The 100 Greatest Guitar Players"...not rock, country, jazz, etc...With that taken into account, the list of players left off that list is absolutely ridiculous...there's players who were left off who people on the list shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 18:39pm


Sam...here's an example of someone who was left off of that stupid list...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig3Wx96ZmzA&feature=related

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 18:46pm


Sam...Eric Johnson either wasn't on it or he was ranked very low...but you can judge for yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15eu7ar5EKM

I guess their definition of "great" and mine are vastly different...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 18:55pm


If we're going to bring classical and Spanish guitarists into it, what about Paco de Lucia? "Cliffs of Dover"... now that was cool! Really good playing there. Now, the problems with the RS list:

-I dig GNR and Eminem, but they haven't earned a spot. Lacking a bit in the two I's, particularly when so many of the people who paved the way for GNR didn't get a spot.

-Certainly Tupac's had an impact in the Hip-Hop world, but has that crossed over to the world of R'n'R?

-Pink Floyd and Queen should be on the list, as many people have pointed out. Too much influence and importance to be ignored.

-I love Nirvana, and I feel they do deserve a spot, but R.E.M. should without a doubt get a spot ahead of them (and probably someone one of R.E.M.'s contemporaries), and I feel like one of Nirvana's Seattle contemporaries should have gotten a spot as well.

-I didn't even know Dr. Dre had an actual solo career. Isn't he mostly known for producing outside of NWA?

-I don't care that much for Cream's music, but without them I don't think there would've been the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and possibly no Zeppelin, no Sabbath and no Deep Purple (they should've made the list over GNR.) For that they should be a bit higher.

-I like the Eagles but since I believe country rock was already in existence, I'm thinking it's their massive popularity that got them a spot, and that alone doesn't do it for me (plus, "Hotel California" the song is massively overrated.)

-Nirvana ahead of Sabbath, AC/DC, Cream, The Who, Bowie, The Allman Brothers, The Kinks (should be higher), Aerosmith... can't deal with that.

-I also feel like 100 spots isn't enough, to keep the people that deserve it on and fit in all the people who should've made the cut (Deep Purple, Judas Priest, T. Rex, Thin Lizzy, Joy Division, New Order, The Smiths, NY Dolls, Alice Cooper...)

Gitarzan, I noticed you commented on the Seven Ages of Rock thing. The Americans have actually picked up on the idea of Rock and R'N'R being different if you watch VH1 Classic's version* of Seven Ages of Rock.

*I use the term "version" loosely with how badly they screwed it up (3 of the original episodes had some major flaws, yes, but that can sometimes be expected when you have about an hour of footage per episode, except for the British Indie episode, which was an hour and a half and thus the most insightful to me.) What VH1 Classic did was to use exactly the same content and interviews ours did, try to fit each episode into an hour, and when you include commercials that means that lots of key content is cut, and from the bits I watched meant that it was a completely mess. Plus, they censored any swearing and got Dennis Hopper to narrate, and he is hands down the most boring narrator ever.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 03.12.10 @ 16:53pm


I don't care that much for Cream's music, but without them I don't think there would've been the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and possibly no Zeppelin, no Sabbath and no Deep Purple (they should've made the list over GNR.) For that they should be a bit higher. Sam
If it was not for the Surfaris there may not have been a Cream

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 03.12.10 @ 21:51pm


If you say so, though I know nothing about any of them taking anything from surf music. Ginger Baker considers himself a jazz drummer, not a rock drummer, they had a psychedelic sound, and Baker and Bruce previously played together in an act called The Graham Bond Organisation, which was apparently a jazz/blues band.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.16.10 @ 15:13pm


Sam...in case you didn't know, let me clue you in...the Surfaris changed the course of Western civilization (at least according to some around here)!!!

To me, it's Surfaris=Wipeout, Wipeout=Surfaris, and over, and over...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 03.16.10 @ 18:40pm


How many Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees can you list whose sound and style has never been copied?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.18.10 @ 09:18am


That would take hours of brainstorming to come up with a list, and I'd need to listen to every inductee and everyone of the people they've influenced (which would take days.) I think I'm going to not bother.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.18.10 @ 15:22pm


I prefer VH1 list. Rolling Stone put Ricky Nelson on?? It's laughable. And Dr Dre? What a joke.
I can't make a post on here because it says it looks like spam.Whatever

Posted by kathat0 on Sunday, 03.21.10 @ 23:08pm


Yeah, the VH1 list is a tiny bit better, because they included Pink Floyd and Queen, included T. Rex and KISS, had Nirvana lower, and left off GNR. That, and their list was actually fully done by musicians. It still has some flaws though.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 16:27pm


As we all know the time between the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony and the announcement of the nominees in September is a relatively slow time for this website. I have thought up of an idea of how to pass the time. Everybody here has their own problems with the way in which the Hall of Fame is constructed. You either think that there are horrible omissions or you feel that someone got inducted that didn’t deserve it. So I think it would be fun and interesting if we made or own Hall of Fame here. My idea would be that every week would represent a given year and people would get seven votes. The top seven vote getters at the end of the week of voting will get inducted into the Future Rock Legends Hall of Fame. I felt that seven would be a good middle ground as the normal five seems too low, but at the same time 10 seems too high. Also I know that you can change your name and vote multiple times, but please refrain from doing this so this can be somewhat legit. You will be able to vote in the 2010 inductions area, the 2011 artist list, the Induction Criteria, and “The Immortals” list. The first week will be 1986. You can use this site to see what artists are still eligible in the real Hall of Fame from 1986. Here is the list of the people that are in the Hall of Fame in Cleveland that were eligible in 1986:

Little Anthony & The Imperials
Lavern Baker
Hank Ballard
Bobby ‘Blue’ Bland
Ruth Brown
Solomon Burke
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
The Everly Brothers
Bobby Darin
Bo Diddley
Fats Domino
The Drifters
Duane Eddy
The Flamingos
The Four Tops
Bill Haley
John Lee Hooker
The Isley Brothers
Little Willie John
Carole King
Gladys Knight & The Pips
Brenda Lee
Jerry Lee Lewis
Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
Clyde McPhatter
The Miracles w/Smokey Robinson
The Moonglows
Ricky Nelson
Carl Perkins
Gene Pitney
The Platters
Lloyd Price
Jimmy Reed
Big Joe Turner
Ike & Tina Turner
Del Shannon
The Staple Singers
The Supremes
Ritchie Valens
The Ventures
Gene Vincent
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilson

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 20:46pm


1 vote each for:

1) ****THE MIRACLES**** .

UH...who else...oh yeah. (LOL)

2) The Four Seasons
3) Jackie Wilson
4) Marvin Gaye
5) Dion & The Belmonts

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 00:15am


Alternates (if allowed)

1} James Brown & The Famous Flames
2) Little Anthony & The Imperials

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 00:18am


OK. In that case ,put in a vote for me for The Imperials.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 20:34pm


Bill G. - You can vote for 7. So you have one vote left. Also if you could put it in the 2010 Inductees section.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 20:43pm


My pick for the number one artist in history is none other than Elvis Presley. He was music's first true mega-star. He's racked up more gold and platinum than anybody else and that includes the Beatles, Michael Jackson and Garth Brooks. He's had over 70 number one hits and over 30 number one albums worldwide. No one else has reached those numbers on a world wide scale. While it's true Bill Haley and His Comets had rock's first number one hit with "ROCK AROUND THE CLOCK" in 1955 Elvis had it's first number one album in 1956 with his self-titled debut "ELVIS PRESLEY". It stayed at the number one position in the U.S.A. for 10 weeks and is one of music's most parodied album covers, ever. While Michael Jackson's "THRILLER" has sold 50 million copies worldwide different versions of Elvis' "SUN SESSIONS" if truth be known have sold just as many. The hype surrounding Michael Jackson's, Jay-Z's and Mariah Carey's achievements has alot to do with affirmitive action policies enacted by the music industry in the 1980s to appease African Americans for the injustices done to their people over the centurys by the white man. The problem I have with that is, Elvis Presley was a mix of Scottish, Cherokee and Jewish ancestry and should not have been penalized by the industry in which he almost single handedly built being that Native Americans and Jewish peoples have both suffered injustices as horrible as any African Americans have faced. A couple of years ago Billboard Magazine stripped Presley of half of his number one hits on their Top/Hot 100 chart based on a chart name change only. They also refused to acknowledge four songs that went to the number one position on their singles sales chart in recent years, "A LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION" 2002, "RUBBERNECKING" 2003, "THAT'S ALRIGHT" 2004 and "HEARTBREAK HOTEL" 2006. Doing so would've meant that Elvis surpassed the Beatles in the U.S.A. like he did on the Beatles home turf, the U.K. I do hold the belief that Elvis did that there's room for everybody but changing chart rules and stripping artists of recognition of hits they rightfully earned is wrong. I find it perculiar that they recognize duets and collaborative albums as solo efforts as they did in Mariah Carey's and Jay-Z'S cases and then crow to the ends of the world that they beat Elvis. Billboard is also wrong for recognizing as it's number one hits songs that have garnered airplay through pay for play, also known as payola which is how Carey racked up so many hits. Elvis' long-term popularity has last longer than anyone else which is another reason he should've been listed at number one, 54 years. His home has more visitors than any other home in the U.S. except the White House and half of those visitors are under the age of 35. That doesn't count the numbers that visit other Elvis sites like his Tupelo, MS birth place; homes in California; etc. He is also the only performer to gain worldwide recognition and popularity despite never touring outside the U.S. Fans, presidents and royalty from other countries came to see Elvis and still come to tour Graceland. Even the Beatles and Michael Jackson had to tour the world to get worldwide recognition. Since 1997 "ELVIS IN CONCERT" has sold out around the world. "ELVIS IN CONCERT" is a virtual Elvis tour to give back to the fans that didn't get to see Elvis in other countries. I've seen footage and from the way the fans reacted you'd think Elvis was there onstage. That's how people reacted when Elvis appeared in his movies from what my mother and many others told me. I've never seen that reaction to any other entertainer including Michael Jackson even when the Grammys did their tribute to him with the 3-D thing. Many artists have been said to change the world but Elvis truly did unlike any other entertainer has or ever will.

Posted by DON COOPER on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 16:05pm


led zeppelin is top 5, bob dylan not so high nirvana to high, wheres queen and pink floyd, aerosmith should be higher acdc higher

Posted by marco on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 16:14pm


Enoch Light
Glen Campbell
The Lettermen
Alabama
Mitch Miller
Billy Vaughn
George Strait
Roger Williams
Henry Mancini
Mantovani

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 16:48pm


THE CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME

2010 April Wine
2009 Loverboy
2008 Triumph
2007 Bob Rock
2006 Bryan Adams
2005 The Tragically Hip
2004 Bob Ezrin
2003 Tom Cochrane
2002 Daniel Lanois
2001 Bruce Cockburn
2000 Bruce Fairbairn
1999 Luc Plamondon
1998 David Foster
1997 Lenny Breau
1997 Gil Evans
1997 Maynard Ferguson
1997 Moe Koffman
1997 Rob McConnell
1996 David Clayton-Thomas
1996 Denny Doherty
1996 John Kay
1996 Domenic Troiano
1996 Zal Yanovsky
1995 Buffy Sainte-Marie
1994 Rush
1993 Anne Murray
1992 Ian & Sylvia
1991 Leonard Cohen
1990 Maureen Forrester
1989 The Band
1988 No Inductees
1987 The Guess Who
1986 Gordon Lightfoot
1985 Wilf Carter
1984 The Crewcuts
1984 The Diamonds
1984 The Four Lads
1983 Glenn Gould
1982 Neil Young
1981 Joni Mitchell
1980 Paul Anka
1979 Hank Snow
1978 Guy Lombardo
1978 Oscar Peterson

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 09:48am


Madonna before Lennon?!

Posted by zoomataw on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 03:58am


Madonna before Lennon?!

Posted by zoomataw on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 04:01am


No, Lennon twice.

Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 08:33am


Tom Jones
Neil Diamond

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.25.10 @ 12:22pm


http://rockhall.com/blog/post/4295_jazz-rock-fusion-and-the-rise-/

Tuesday, April 27: 5:39 p.m.
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JAZZ-ROCK FUSION AND THE RISE OF PROGRESSIVE ROCK

This past week, Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C) offered its 31st annual Jazz Fest in the city of Cleveland with events that ranged from community programs to all-star jazz performances. This year the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum partnered with the Jazz Fest to offer two evening programs that explored the connections between jazz and rock.

On Monday April 19th the Rock Hall screened the film Miles Electric: A Different Kind of Blue directed by acclaimed filmmaker and friend of the Museum, Murray Lerner. The film looks back to the period of musical transition from Miles Davis’ freebop quintet to what later became known as electric Miles, culminating with uncut footage of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductee’s legendary performance at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival. It wasn’t rock and roll, although Bitches Brew (1969) came close, but Davis’ style wasn’t far removed from the acid rock and funk that was filling the airwaves in the late 1960s. For some extra fun check out the records his wife Betty Davis made starting in 1973 – awesome! Davis’ band at the Isle of Wight consisted of powerhouse jazz players including Gary Bartz (saxophone), Chick Corea (keyboards), Dave Holland (bass), Jack DeJohnette (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion), and Keith Jarret (piano). At moments they are all freeform and fury and at others they groove into solid funk jams and the 600,000 fans are with them the whole time.

On Wednesday, April 21st Rock and Roll Night School further explored the jazz rock fusion during the late 1960s by spotlighting the rise of progressive rock in a program titled, “From Soft Machine to Genesis: The Birth of British Progressive Rock.” The evening began with a look at the Canterbury music scene and the psychedelic rock sounds of the band Wilde Flowers, whose members would go on to form both Caravan and Soft Machine. Between 1968 and 1970 Soft Machine transitioned from psychedelic rock to jazz based jams. Their landmark third album, Third (1970), features the core of Hugh Hopper, Mike Ratledge and Robert Wyatt joined by a number of other musicians to create a form of rock modal jazz that with its circular musical structures would sit nicely next to a copy of John Coltrane’s My Favorite Things album (1961). From there the evening went to King Crimson’s first album In the Court of the Crimson King (1969). King Crimson’s sound was also greatly influenced by jazz but its driving hard edged rhythms and disjointed melodies made them more akin to the sounds of Charles Mingus’ “Moanin’” (1960). The final part of the trip into the sounds of progressive rock traced new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Genesis through their first four albums. On these records we hear the band develop jazz techniques such as interlocking musical figures along with the use of extended harmonies and shifting time signatures, but they quickly move away from world of jazz and into the creation of what we now call progressive rock.

A partial Rock and Roll Night School playlist:

· The Wilde Flowers, “Never Leave Me”
· The Soft Machine, “Love Makes Sweet Music”
· The Soft Machine, “Hope for Happiness”
· The Soft Machine, “Slightly All the Time”
· King Crimson, “21st Century Schizoid Man”
· Genesis, “White Mountain”
· Genesis, “The Musical Box”
· Genesis, “Watcher of the Skies”


Categories: Rock and Roll Night School
Tags: genesis, king crimson, miles davis, ROCK AND ROLL NIGHT SCHOOL, soft machine, the wilde flowers, tri-c jazz festival

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.29.10 @ 10:42am


I just book marked your blog on Digg and StumbleUpon.I enjoy reading your commentaries.

Posted by lovedv on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 16:58pm


ARTISTS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 08:33am


I say we anoint Roy the "Chief Purveyor of Useless Information" AND "High Priest of Redundancy" on this site...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 08:41am


HAH!

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 09:04am


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 The Band
02. 1995 Neil Young
03. 1997 Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield)
04. 1997 Joni Mitchell
05. 1998 Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
06. 2008 Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 05:38am


For the comments made by Don Cooper. I don't think record sales tell the whole story of a true artist. If you want to go there the Beatles have arguably sold more records than Elvis and the Beatles were just a recording band for eight years. They did this while making highly experimental albums like Revolver, the White Album and others.

No one artist invented anything, music constantly evolves and builds on past influences. That being said The Beatles clearly influenced more areas than Bob Dylan or Elvis Presley.

There is no doubt that Bob Dylan was highly influential in making pop music take notice in writing serious lyrics but he took his cue from Woody Guthrie but Dylan didn't invent serious lyrics in popular music. Dylan on the other hand did nothing in terms of what you can do in the studio and the expansion of the use of weird/experimental guitar chords in pop songs that the Beatles clearly did more than Dylan. Or the expansion of instruments like the sitar, mellotron, tamboura, 12 sting Ricky guitar which became the main guitar instrument in jangle-pop and power pop that the Beatles did.

The Beatles on the other hand was not only hugely influential on songwriting, and self contained rock BANDS being the rule rather than the exception. They broke the American domination in rock music with the start of the British Invasion. The huge stadium concerts of Shea Stadium set the stage of Arena Rock. But it's what they did in studio. It's a fact that The Beatles' ideas and demands pushed engineers like Norman Smith, Geoff Emerick, Chris Thomas, Glynn Johns, Alan Parsons etc. to develop new techniques that formed the groundwork for modern digital editing we see today with Protools, etc. You're hard pressed to NOT hear the Beatles influence everywhere in modern pop recordings.

Posted by Matildamothers on Saturday, 05.22.10 @ 10:12am


Hello ! Greetings From France. Very Delicate forum.

Posted by Fleefegepe on Wednesday, 05.26.10 @ 09:53am


I think the worst thing about this list is the very notion that there are 100 artists out there who are "immortal." As far as I'm concerned, there are maybe 15 at the most. "Immortal" is a big word and applying it to such a list stinks of arrogance. I would have much preferred "legendary"

I mean seriously, will people 300 years down the road really be worshipping NWA, Nine Inch Nails or Dr. Dre? I guess I could be wrong, who knows what people will like in 300 years but still, give me a brake

Posted by Stefan on Friday, 05.28.10 @ 09:28am


So some of this was good but most of both lists make me want to hit someone. first off the fact that pink floyd and queen are on the list makes this a complete joke seeing that Night at the Opera was one of the best records ever made (Not an opinion it was stated on another one of these lists) and that pink floyd started the whole visual effects with the preformance. second off for both lists bob dylan should be before the band(s)in front of him (I'm not saying he should be number 1) simply for the fact that if Bob Dylan didn't exist the music that those bands above him made would of been VASTLY different. In fact up until Bob Dylan's comment to Lennon that his lyrics didn't mean anything they were singing about holding her hand. and how she loves him. after it? Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper, CONCEPT ALBUMS! Jimi Hendrix is above Dylan when he coved a majority of Dylan's songs, Like a Rolling Stone, All Along the Watchtower to name a few. Same goes for the Beach Boys whos Pet Sounds record is still vastly more important than some of those bands entire careers. as for the doors argument they were the first to bring spoken word to rock...do I think they should be held in the top for that? definently

Posted by I hate RS and VH1 on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 03:09am


Why isn't Lenny Bruce an inductee? No page here either!

Posted by eg on Monday, 05.31.10 @ 12:21pm


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Posted by lovecalculator on Saturday, 06.5.10 @ 16:47pm


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Posted by lovecalculator on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 00:44am


Very informative post. Thanks for taking the time to share your view with us.

Posted by Zdrowie on Tuesday, 06.8.10 @ 00:52am


"So some of this was good but most of both lists make me want to hit someone. first off the fact that pink floyd and queen are on the list makes this a complete joke" - I hate RS and VH1

I think you meant "AREN'T on the list" that way your entire comment makes much more sense.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 06.8.10 @ 11:37am


Jimmy Dean

Posted by Rock On on Wednesday, 06.16.10 @ 11:00am


Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB

Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams

Posted by Heather on Thursday, 07.8.10 @ 07:48am


Bob and Earl - Harlem Shuffle

Posted by EDC on Monday, 07.12.10 @ 18:18pm


Maxi Priest

Posted by Heather on Wednesday, 07.14.10 @ 11:09am


Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest

Posted by Stalkeresque on Wednesday, 07.14.10 @ 17:43pm


Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt

Posted by Stalkeresque on Thursday, 07.15.10 @ 09:52am


Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.16.10 @ 16:11pm


Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.19.10 @ 11:59am


Roy Milton
Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.19.10 @ 16:00pm


Roy Milton
Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Murray Head
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.20.10 @ 08:54am


stupid list

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 07.22.10 @ 23:00pm


My email to the Rock Hall:

The book, "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: The First 25 Years, 2009, by Holly George Warren, has the names of all the artists who gave the induction speeches for those who were inducted, except it doesn't say who gave the induction speech for Jimmy Yancey in 1986 or Leonard Chess in 1987. Could you please tell me so I can report it to the Future Rock Legends website?

Who gave the induction speech for Jimmy Yancey in 1986?
Who gave the induction speech for Leonard Chess in 1987?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.27.10 @ 07:03am


Marcie Blane
Newbeats
Steve Lawrence
The Mindbenders
Little Peggy March
Trini Lopez
Vicki Carr
Steam
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
The Zodiacs
Ocean (The 1970s Ocean) NOTE
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Mary Hopkins
Nino Rota
The Rooftop Singers
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
The Undisputed Truth

Posted by DDD on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 17:44pm


Songwriters

Bob Crewe, Bob Gaudio, Howard Greenfield, Jimmy Webb, Carole Bayer Sager, Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong, Hal David and Burt Bacharach, Don Gibson, Roger Miller, Rod Temperton, David Porter, Don Black, Hoyt Axton, John Bettis, Alan and Marilyn Bergman, Marvin Hamlisch, Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy, Thom Bell and Linda Creed, Richard Barrett, Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy, Boudleaux & Felice Bryant, Vivian Carter, James Bracken and Calvin Carter, Deborah Chessler

Posted by DDD on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 17:57pm


Future Rock Legends

William, Kit, Gitarzan, Classicrocker, Cheesecrop, Philip, Casper, Dameon, Liam, Shawn, Gassman, Mrxyzacdefghijk, and of course......me!!!

Posted by joker on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 18:14pm


Songwriters

Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy
Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong
Hal David and Burt Bacharach
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux & Felice Bryant

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07.29.10 @ 09:42am


Bob Crewe
Bob Gaudio
David Porter
Richard Barrett
Robert Blackwell
Carole Bayer Sager
Bernie Taupin

Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy
Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong
Hal David and Burt Bacharach
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux & Felice Bryant

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07.29.10 @ 14:15pm


Raffi and Fred Penner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.30.10 @ 12:33pm


Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
Billy Paul
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Murray Head
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Spandau Ballet
Matthew Wilder
Rupert Holmes
Taco

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07.31.10 @ 14:15pm




Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
Billy Paul
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Murray Head
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Spandau Ballet
Matthew Wilder
Rupert Holmes
Taco

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07.31.10 @ 14:15pm


The Immortals are supposed to be artists that are "the most significant and influential of rock's first fifty years, those whose work continues to have an impact today."

What do the above people have to do with that?

What are you trying to tell us??

Posted by interviewer on Saturday, 07.31.10 @ 14:31pm


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_halloffame_non.html

THE DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S LIST OF IMMORTALS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET. EARLY INFLUENCE, SIDEMEN AND NON-PERFORMERS ONLY:

QUALIFICATION RATING: 10 - THE IMMORTALS

01. Lee Allen
02. Mickey "Guitar" Baker
03. Roy Brown
04. Wynonie Harris
05. The Ravens
06. Tom Dowd
07. Cosimo Matassa
08. Willie Mitchell
09. Wolfman Jack

NO IMMORTALS LEFT IN THE PERFORMERS CATEGORY ON DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.3.10 @ 14:12pm


Cab Calloway
Roy Milton
Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Murray Head
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Marcie Blane
Newbeats
Steve Lawrence
The Mindbenders
Little Peggy March
Trini Lopez
Vicki Carr
Steam
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
The Zodiacs
Ocean (The 1970s Ocean) NOTE
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Mary Hopkins
Nino Rota
The Rooftop Singers
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
The Undisputed Truth
Extreme
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Sensational Nightingales
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.4.10 @ 07:42am


Cab Calloway
Roy Milton
Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
Billy Paul
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Bill Conti
John Williams
Bob and Earl
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Patty Smyth
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Peaches & Herb
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Murray Head
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Taco
Rupert Holmes
Spandau Ballet
Matthew Wilder
Marcie Blane
Newbeats
Steve Lawrence
The Mindbenders
Little Peggy March
Trini Lopez
Vicki Carr
Steam
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
The Zodiacs
Ocean (The 1970s Ocean) NOTE
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Mary Hopkins
Nino Rota
The Rooftop Singers
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
The Undisputed Truth
Extreme
Bell Biv Devoe
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Sensational Nightingales
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore

Posted by ROY on Wednesday, 08.4.10 @ 07:51am


Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Donny and Marie Osmond
Marie Osmond
The DeFranco Family

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 11:23am


ARTISTS FROM THE ALL-TIME TOP 100 CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME YET:

02. Frank Sinatra
04. Barbra Streisand
06. Johnny Mathis
09. Neil Diamond
13. Ray Conniff
14. Willie Nelson
17. Mantovani
24. Andy Williams
25. Lawrence Welk
28. Chicago
30. Henry Mancini
31. The Kingston Trio
32. Jimmy Buffett
33. Herb Alpert
34. Kenny Rogers
39. Roger Williams
44. George Strait
46. Kiss
47. Linda Ronstadt
50. Billy Vaughn
52. Diana Ross
53. Barry Manilow
57. Garth Brooks
61. Dionne Warwick
63. John Denver
64. Rush
65. Mitch Miller
68. Harry Belafonte
70. Alabama
71. The Lettermen
74. Nancy Wilson
77. Jethro Tull
78. Dolly Parton
79. Tony Bennett
81. Dean Martin
82. The Monkees
83. Joan Baez
84. Journey
86. Glen Campbell
89. The Moody Blues
91. Mariah Carey
92. Anne Murray
93. Steve Miller Band
94. Enoch Light
95. Cher
96. Carole King
97. Daryl Hall & John Oates
99. Carly Simon

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.12.10 @ 09:15am


Raydio
Ray Parker, Jr.
Arcadia

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.13.10 @ 09:22am


http://www.canadaswalkoffame.com/

THE CANADA HONOURS/CANADA'S WALK OF FAME

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.18.10 @ 12:36pm


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME
THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME
THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME
THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME
THE KENNEDY CENTER HONORS

THE JUNO/CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME
THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME
THE CANADIAN FOLK MUSIC WALK OF FAME
THE CANADA HONOURS/CANADA'S WALK OF FAME
THE ORDER OF CANADA

THE PULITZER
THE NOBEL
KNIGHTHOOD

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.18.10 @ 12:58pm


The McGuire Sisters
Georgia Gibbs
The Miami Sound Machine

Posted by Heather on Wednesday, 08.18.10 @ 14:36pm


The Sylvers
Samantha Sang
Rick Dees And His Cast Of Idiots

Posted by joker on Wednesday, 08.18.10 @ 15:23pm


ARTISTS FROM THE ALL-TIME TOP 100 CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME YET:

02. Frank Sinatra
04. Barbra Streisand
06. Johnny Mathis
09. Neil Diamond
13. Ray Conniff
14. Willie Nelson
17. Mantovani
24. Andy Williams
25. Lawrence Welk
28. Chicago
30. Henry Mancini
31. The Kingston Trio
32. Jimmy Buffett
34. Kenny Rogers
39. Roger Williams
44. George Strait
46. Kiss
47. Linda Ronstadt
50. Billy Vaughn
52. Diana Ross
53. Barry Manilow
57. Garth Brooks
61. Dionne Warwick
63. John Denver
64. Rush
65. Mitch Miller
68. Harry Belafonte
70. Alabama
71. The Lettermen
74. Nancy Wilson
77. Jethro Tull
78. Dolly Parton
79. Tony Bennett
81. Dean Martin
82. The Monkees
83. Joan Baez
84. Journey
86. Glen Campbell
89. The Moody Blues
91. Mariah Carey
92. Anne Murray
93. Steve Miller Band
94. Enoch Light
95. Cher
97. Daryl Hall & John Oates
99. Carly Simon

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 12:33pm


The UK Music Hall of Fame

2006

James Brown
Led Zeppelin
Rod Stewart
Brian Wilson
Bon Jovi
Prince
Dusty Springfield
Sir George Martin

2005

Pink Floyd
Eurythmics
Aretha Franklin
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Dylan
Joy Division/New Order
The Who
The Kinks
Black Sabbath
Ozzy Osbourne
DJ John Peel

2004

Elvis Presley
The Beatles
Bob Marley
Madonna
U2
Cliff Richard and The Shadows
The Rolling Stones
Queen
Michael Jackson
Robbie Williams

The UK Music Hall of Fame was an awards ceremony to honour musicians, of any nationality, for their lifetime contributions to music in the United Kingdom. The Hall of Fame started in 2004 with the induction of five founder members and five more members selected by a public televote, two from each of the last five decades. In subsequent years, a panel of more than 60 journalists and music industry executives decided the people and groups to be inducted. The ceremony was last held in 2006, and has since been cancelled.

There were no inductees in 2007. It was announced in September 2008 that Channel 4 had axed the ceremony, partly due to lack of funding, and also because a two year gap since the last show was "too long

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 13:39pm


IMMORTAL NON-PERFORMERS FOR INDUCTION

Producers

John Simon
Tom Dowd
Arif Mardin
Phil Ramone
Quincy Jones
Sergio Mendez

Songwriters

Bob Crewe
Bob Gaudio
David Porter
Richard Barrett
Robert Blackwell
Carole Bayer Sager
Bernie Taupin
David Foster
Jim Steinman
Diane Warren

Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy
Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong
Burt Bacharach and Hal David
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux & Felice Bryant

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 05:44am


http://top40-charts.com/news/Charts-Awards/VH1s-100-Greatest-Artists-Of-All-Time-Premieres-On-September-6-2010/58721.html

VH1's Top 100 Artists (2010)

1. The Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. Michael Jackson
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Rolling Stones
6. Jimi Hendrix
7. Prince
8. Elvis Presley
9. James Brown
10. Stevie Wonder
11. Bob Marley
12. David Bowie
13. The Who
14. Nirvana
15. The Beach Boys
16. Madonna
17. Queen
18. Pink Floyd
19. U2
20. Marvin Gaye
21. Bruce Springsteen
22. The Clash
23. AC/DC
24. The Velvet Underground
25. Chuck Berry
26. Neil Young
27. Aretha Franklin
28. Elton John
29. Radiohead
30. Aerosmith
31. John Lennon
32. Black Sabbath
33. Guns N' Roses
34. Tina Turner
35. Johnny Cash
36. Paul McCartney
37. Fleetwood Mac
38. Sly & The Family Stone
39. The Kinks
40. The Police
41. Van Halen
42. Metallica
43. Ray Charles
44. Joni Mitchell
45. Al Green
46. Ramones
47. Jay-Z
48. Rage Against The Machine
49. Parliament-Funkadelic
50. Sade
51. Billy Joel
52. Beyonce
53. Little Richard
54. Public Enemy
55. Peter Gabriel
56. KISS
57. Iggy & The Stooges
58. Cheap Trick
59. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
60. Whitney Houston
61. Cream
62. Genesis
63. Notorious B.I.G.
64. Talking Heads
65. The Doors
66. Justin Timberlake
67. Coldplay
68. Otis Redding
69. Tupac Shakur
70. Def Leppard
71. R.E.M.
72. Janis Joplin
73. Van Morrison
74. The Cure
75. Rush
76. Run-D.M.C.
77. Lynyrd Skynyrd
78. Judas Priest
79. Eminem
80. Mary J. Blige
81. ABBA
82. Steely Dan
83. Earth, Wind and Fire
84. Curtis Mayfield
85. The Band
86. N.W.A.
87. George Michael
88. Bee Gees
89. Beastie Boys
90. Elvis Costello
91. Green Day
92. LL Cool J
93. Pearl Jam
94. Mariah Carey
95. OutKast
96. Journey
97. Pretenders
98. Depeche Mode
99. Hall & Oates
100. Alicia Keys

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 15:43pm


Jay-Z ahead of Cream, Little Richard and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? Justin Timberlake before Otis Redding, Judas Priest or Run DMC? The Yardbirds, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Sonic Youth all aren't on this list but Journey, Alicia Keys and Green Day are? Yeah sure, whatever, just further proof of how ridiculous (not to mention pointless) these lists are.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 16:03pm


another stupid list

Posted by rhymes on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 17:34pm


There is a change of 37 out of the 100 artists from the 1998 list in the 2010 list. 64 out of the 100 remain.

Artists from VH1's Top 100 Artists of all-time as voted on by their predecessors, contemporaries, and followers in the music industry in 1998 who did not make VH1's Top 100 Artists list of all-time in 2010:

15. Eric Clapton
23. The Eagles
34. Buddy Holly
37. Creedence Clearwater Revival
39. Miles Davis
44. The Jackson Five
45. Crosby, Stills & Nash
46. The Sex Pistols
49. Roy Orbison
51. B.B. King
54. The Grateful Dead
55. The Byrds
58. Sam Cooke
59. Bo Diddley
61. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
63. Sting
64. Frank Zappa
65. James Taylor
68. The Allman Brothers
70. Stevie Ray Vaughan
71. Rod Stewart
72. Simon & Garfunkel
73. Muddy Waters
77. John Coltrane
82. Devo
84. T. Rex
85. Carole King
87. Santana
90. Tom Waits
91. Gladys Knight & the Pips
92. The Temptations
93. The Four Tops
94. Diana Ross & the Supremes
95. Robert Johnson
97. Fats Domino
98. Traffic
100. Paul Simon

Artists from VH1's Top 100 Artists of all-time as voted on by their predecessors, contemporaries, and followers in the music industry in 2010 who did not make VH1's Top 100 Artists list of all-time in 1998:

23. AC/DC
29. Radiohead
32. Black Sabbath
33. Guns N' Roses
42. Metallica
47. Jay-Z
48. Rage Against The Machine
50. Sade
52. Beyonce
54. Public Enemy
58. Cheap Trick
60. Whitney Houston
62. Genesis
63. Notorious B.I.G.
66. Justin Timberlake
67. Coldplay
69. Tupac Shakur
70. Def Leppard
74. The Cure
75. Rush
76. Run-D.M.C.
78. Judas Priest
79. Eminem
80. Mary J. Blige
81. ABBA
86. N.W.A.
87. George Michael
89. Beastie Boys
91. Green Day
92. LL Cool J
93. Pearl Jam
94. Mariah Carey
95. OutKast
96. Journey
98. Depeche Mode
99. Hall & Oates
100. Alicia Keys

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 19:08pm


Now that you've got all the musicians who grew up in the 70s, 80s and 90s voting on VH1's lists, the biggest difference between the 1998 list and the 2010 list is clearly obvious: 50s, 60s, 70s Motown R&B acts have been replaced by 80s and 90s Rap and R&B artists. Out go The Miracles, The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops, Gladys Knight & the Pips, and in comes Run DMC, Tupac, Biggy, Eminem and Mary J. Blige! What a joke! Eric Clapton and Buddy Holly get knocked off! A lot more metal and grunge on this list as well. The Sex Pistols got knocked off. ...And hello Genesis!

No Leonard Cohen or Chicago on either list (1998, 2010). Elton John and Billy Joel on both!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 19:30pm


None of these are remotely Hall worthy at the moment:

50 Sade
52 Beyonce
60 Whitney Houston
70 Def Leppard
80 Mary J. Blige
87 George Michael
94 Mariah Carey
96 Journey
100 Alicia Keys

Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 20:47pm


wowwwww...beyonce and sade are better than the doors,

Posted by rhymes on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 00:13am


wowwwww...beyonce and sade are better than the doors,

Posted by rhymes on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 00:13am

Not to mention Buddy Holly, the Miracles, etc. A pretty big joke, IMO. It just goes to show whoever compiles these lists needs to actually know something about Rock history!!! I mean how can honestly someone have a list like this with Justin Timberlake, Alicia Keys and Jay-Z on it but no mention of Buddy Holly? Insane. Even Hall & Oates get some love.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 01:56am


http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artists-folk.html

Digital Dream Door

100 Greatest Folk Music Artists

01. Woody Guthrie
02. The Weavers
03. Bob Dylan
04. Odetta
05. Peter, Paul and Mary
06. Pete Seeger
07. Joni Mitchell
08. Kingston Trio
09. Joan Baez
10. Leadbelly
11. Phil Ochs
12. Judy Collins
13. Crosby, Stills & Nash
14. The Byrds
15. Fairport Convention
16. Doc Watson
17. Neil Young
18. Leonard Cohen
19. Simon & Garfunkel
20. Frankie Armstrong
21. Donovan
22. Gordon Lightfoot
23. Steve Goodman
24. Ramblin' Jack Elliott
25. John Fahey
26. Arlo Guthrie
27. Tom Rush
28. Sweet Honey In The Rock
29. The Limeliters
30. Buffy-Saint Marie
31. Loudon Wainwright III
32. Elizabeth Cotten
33. The New Lost City Ramblers
34. Tom Paxton
35. Steeleye Span
36. Utah Phillips
37. Josh White
38. The Chad Mitchell Trio
39. John "Spider John" Koerner
40. Kate & Ann McGarrigle
41. Hazel Dickens
42. Ralph McTell
43. The Highwaymen
44. A.L. Lloyd
45. Townes Van Zandt
46. James Taylor
47. Harry Chapin
48. Oscar Brand
49. Ian & Sylvia
50. John Prine
51. The New Christy Minstrels
52. Harry Belafonte
53. Cisco Houston
54. Bob Gibson
55. Mike Seeger
56. Almanac Singers
57. Loreena McKennit
58. June Tabor
59. Jesse Fuller
60. Joan Armatrading
61. Dock Boggs
62. Dave Van Ronk
63. Suzanne Vega
64. Buell Kazee
65. Fred Neil
66. Eva Cassidy
67. The Clancy Brothers
68. Sandy Denny
69. The Dubliners
70. Iris Dement
71. The Rooftop Singers
72. Gillian Welch
73. Maddie Prior
74. The Roches
75. Alice Gerrard
76. Folksmen
77. Anita Carter
78. Jerry Jeff Walker
79. Christine Lavin
80. Richard Thompson
81. Anne Hills
82. Eric Andersen
83. The Chieftains
84. Ani Difranco
85. Pentangle
86. Tracy Chapman
87. Shel Silverstein
88. John Renbourn
89. Judy Henske
90. David Bromberg
91. The Mama's & The Papa's
92. Tim Buckley
93. The Brothers Four
94. Emmylou Harris
95. Si Kahn
96. Burl Ives
97. Cat Stevens
98. Nanci Griffith
99. Christy Moore
100. John Kirkpatrick

Honorable Mentions:

The Serendipity Singers
The Seekers
Melanie
Spanky and Our Gang
Michelle Shocked
Nick Drake
Bill Morrisey
Sandpipers
Village Stompers
Smothers Brothers
The Incredible String Band
Victoria Williams
Roger McGuinn
Shawn Colvin
Janis Ian
Leo Kottke
Rod McKuen
Hamilton Camp
Taj Mahal
Gram Parsons
Peggy Seeger
Trini Lopez
Glenn Yarbourough
Bradley Kinkaid
Phoebe Snow
Buffalo Springfield
Flaco Jiminez
Devendra Banhart
Roy Harper
The Beau Brummels
The Holy Modal Rounders
Atwater-Donnelly
The Chenille Sisters
The Tarriers
The Brandywine Singers
Ricki Lee Jones
Robin & Linda Williams
Katty Moffatt
Terry Callier
Mike Cross
Carolyn Hester
Richard & Mimi Farina
The Everly Brothers
The Band
The Lovin' Spoonful
Ellis Paul
Artie Traum
Luka Bloom
Bert Jansch
Happy Traum
The Jolly Rogers
Bad Haggis

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 07:29am


I took the liberty to count up all three the lists. A total of 158 artists are mentioned. 94 artists appear on at least two lists, 48 on all three.

Here's the complete list, made up of every artist that was mentioned on at least 2 out of 3 lists. The ranking is based on the number of points an artist got per list. 100 points to #1, 99 to #2 etc. The Beatles, our number one, got a total of 300 points, since they were the number one act on all three lists.

1. The Beatles
2. The Rolling Stones
3. Bob Dylan
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. Elvis Presley
6. Led Zeppelin
7. James Brown
8. Stevie Wonder
9. The Beach Boys
10. Bob Marley
11. The Who
12. Marvin Gaye
13. Prince
14. Chuck Berry
15. Aretha Franklin
16. David Bowie
17. Ray Charles
18. U2
19. Bruce Springsteen
20. Michael Jackson
21. Nirvana
22. The Clash
23. John Lennon
24. Neil Young
25. Elton John
26. Little Richard
27. Sly and The Family Stone
28. The Velvet Underground
29. The Police
30. Otis Redding
31. The Doors
32. Joni Mitchell
33. Madonna
34. Pink Floyd
35. Van Morrison
36. Al Green
37. Buddy Holly
38. Queen
39. Johnny Cash
40. The Kinks
41. Janis Joplin
42. Ramones
43. Fleetwood Mac
44. Aerosmith
45. Eric Clapton
46. Tina Turner
47. Sam Cooke
48. Cream
49. Bo Diddley
50. Roy Orbison
51. Van Halen
52. Muddy Waters
53. Smokey Robinson and The Miracles
54. AC/DC
55. The Eagles
56. Paul McCartney
57. Public Enemy
58. The Byrds
59. Radiohead
60. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
61. Parliament/Funkadelic
62. The Sex Pistols
63. Elvis Costello
64. Peter Gabriel
65. The Grateful Dead
66. Simon & Garfunkel
67. The Band
68. Iggy Pop & The Stooges
69. Black Sabbath
70. The Allman Brothers Band
71. R.E.M.
72. Fats Domino
73. Kiss
74. Run-D.M.C.
75. Guns N' Roses
76. Miles Davis
77. Billy Joel
78. Talking Heads
79. Frank Zappa
80. Steely Dan
81. Earth, Wind and Fire
82. James Taylor
83. Tupac Shakur
84. Curtis Mayfield
85. The Temptations
86. Eminem
87. The Bee Gees
88. Pretenders
89. Beastie Boys
90. Lynyrd Skynyrd
91. N.W.A.
92. The Four Tops
93. Santana
94. Diana Ross and The Supremes

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 15:45pm


Sade shouldn't be on the list. Neither should Hall & Oates. Neither should Beyonce, Justin Timberlake or Alicia Keyes. GNR's too high, as are Michael Jackson and Madonna (I wouldn't drop them that much though.) I'd raise Sabbath up a few spots. Paul McCartney and John Lennon are too high, as is Tina Turner (they put on Tina solo, who wasn't that important, and didn't put on Ike, who practically invented Rock 'n' Roll?) God. R.E.M. and The Cure should be a few spots higher, as should Rush, Genesis and Cream. Judas Priest should be about fifteen-twenty spots higher. Chuck Berry should be cranked up about ten to fifteen spots, Little Richard should be in the Top 30 at least. Coldplay shouldn't be on the list. Where are: Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Link Wray, The Miracles, Joy Division (one of The Cure's biggest influences)? Deep Purple, who Judas Priest and Metallica owe a lot to? Link Wray, who paved the way for every "heavy rock" act in existence? He's MANDATORY for his influence alone. I'd like to know who was consulted for this list. Jay-Z's a bit too high. I'll concede Green Day deserves to be there, but you have them while completely ignoring the Sex Pistols? Sonic Youth? Black Flag? Both them and Sonic Youth are responsible for Nirvana (who do deserve to be on the list) and Pearl Jam (ditto) being here. Soundgarden? The Smiths, who have influenced almost every current indie band in some way? You have Journey but not Thin Lizzy, T. Rex, Buddy Holly or Kraftwerk? Oh Lord. The main mistakes are in who is on here (I covered that) and who isn't (I partially covered that.) Have I got it right, people?

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 16:58pm


Guess I'll throw in my two cents on the lists.

I tend to agree w/the majority who say that they can't understand how Timberlake, etc. made the list. They definitely sacrificed a fair share of iconic figures (Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly) so they could place a lot of hip-hop & dance divas on this chart.

A few comments about other acts on the list:

Guns N' Roses is way, way, way too high on the list for me. They belong, but I can't get comfortable w/them above both Van Halen & Metallica. I'd have them somewhere between 65-80.

Likewise, Pearl Jam is way, way, way too low. At 93, it is THE most ridiculous slotting of a genuinely talented act on the list. I'd have them somewhere between 50-75 at the very least.

Madonna? Given the option of the #16 spot, I'd put either Guns or P Jam there 100 out of 100 times over Madonna. Course then again I'd also put Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly, etc. there 100 out of 100 times.

One other thing - did you notice that certain acts that have done literally nothing have changed positions w/each other? For instance, Stevie Wonder went from 11-10, while the Police fell from 10-40. Thing is, I can't recall anything new being released by either artist in the intervening time. Just what exactly was it that the Police did that sucked so bad that they fell 30 spots & allowed Wonder to move up? Did the reunion tour suck THAT BAD?! I only heard good things about it.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 19:37pm


Well, Cheesecrop, you have to keep in mind that this is a completely different body of voters. For the original poll, they asked 600 musicians, which is exactly how it should be done. I believe they asked a bunch of different people for this one.

The omissions of Sam Cooke and Buddy Holly are certainly troubling. I've said it already, and I'll say it again: Timberlake, Keyes and Beyonce haven't earned a spot yet. They may deserve one in the future, but not now. (I don't think Mary J. Blige and Mariah have either, but that's a bit more subjective.) Terrible, populist decision-making, especially at the expense of the aforementioned legends. What about Motley Crue (who made it possible for Guns)? Deep Purple? Thin Lizzy? Iron Maiden (though I was very pleased that Priest made the list, even though they should be much higher)? Alice in Chains? Soundgarden? Link Wray? The Miracles? Pearl Jam are one of the most influential bands of the last 20 years, having been ripped off tenfold in modern rock, and have made two of the greatest albums of the last 20 years in "Ten" and "Vs." As you said, they should be higher. Chuck Berry defined rock 'n' roll guitar playing like nobody else, and has influenced almost any rock guitarist, whether they know it or not. He should be at least in the Top 15 of any list. Public Enemy, Beastie Boys Run DMC and N.W.A. should not be placed below Jay-Z. Period. George Michael and Sade; what did they suddenly do to deserve spots? (I like both BTW.) Is it being aired right now? If so, I guess I'll know tomorrow who is responsible for this mess (R.E.M. the band that defined American Indie at #71? Christ.)

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 20:13pm


These artists are the omissions that immediately popped out at me...

Electric Light Orchestra (I thought ELO would definately make it based on the fact that they had a very cool and positive two minute segment on Vh1's "I Love the 70s Volume 2 1974" in 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_the_%2770s:_Volume_2#1974)

Chicago
Paul Simon
The Spinners
George Harrison

Nice to see Genesis though!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 20:18pm


Of "The Immortals", 87* are inducted into Cleveland. There are only two eligible but not in's; one of them, Gram Parsons, appears on the ballot every other year and could get in eventually. The other, Roxy Music, has failed to get a nomination so far. I'm not sure about Lee "Scratch" Perry, except he should be inducted as a Non-Performer. There are 10 (I think) people not yet eligible; all of them are likely to make it in eventually, and all of them except Eminem (who is on pace to being a lock) are almost guaranteed to make the Hall eventually (Dr. Dre as a Non-Performer.)
*Smokey Robinson is in but the Miracles aren't.

So how have we done in comparison? We at Rock Hall Revisited/Projected have inducted 91* of the people on that list by comparison to Cleveland's 87, and I believe we've inducted everyone on that list Cleveland has except Tina Turner and Gram Parsons (somebody say if I'm wrong.) Of the 9 we haven't inducted, 7 are not yet eligible, and I think we'll end up inducting all of those in some form eventually. Gram Parsons still has a chance as well. So in the long run we've done better. *=I counted Public Enemy as inducted because they're pretty much safe now in the voting.

Cleveland has inducted 88 of the 100 people on the VH1 list. Of the 12, one is Nirvana, who are not yet eligible and will definitely be in eventually. So by 2014 or '15 they will have not inducted only 11 people on that list, five of whom were inducted once already for their original work. Nirvana is eligible for Revisited/Projected voting on Sunday, and they will definitely be inducted within a few votes. We have inducted T. Rex, Devo, Stevie Ray Vaughan (will be in Cleveland eventually), KISS and Peter Gabriel where Cleveland have not, and Carole King, Sting and Iggy Pop are inducted by us but not for their solo work. The other two people we haven't inducted are Tom Waits (who might get in this year) and John Coltrane. That's 95 people on the list we have inducted, not counting Nirvana.

Now, with the new VH1 list, there are 15 people who are eligible but not in Cleveland, two of whom are inducted but not for their solo work. There are another 20 people not yet eligible, some of whom will definitely be inducted; in fact, it's very possible all 20 of them could be in Cleveland eventually. Meaning they have inducted 65 of the people on that list. Conversely, Rock Hall Revisited/Projected has inducted 78 (I'm counting Public Enemy) of the people on that list. Of the 22 not in, one (Tina Turner) is eligible and has been inducted, but not for her solo work. 7 are eligible but not not in at all: Sade, N.W.A. (lock), Hall & Oates (contending), George Michael, Journey, LL Cool J and Whitney Houston. That leaves 14 people not yet eligible. It's too early to make judgements on Beyonce, Coldplay, Justin Timberlake and Alicia Keyes. Five of the ones not yet eligible will definitely be inducted; no prizes for guessing who. Of the other five, I'd say they all have legitimate shots to be inducted by us.

So on the whole, we've done better with inducting the people on these lists. Just something I found interesting.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 08.27.10 @ 20:49pm


Many of the acts on the new VH1 list can't be argued- same for their high rankings. But, once 50-100 comes up, things are a little more iffy. Some of the acts ranked aren't all that acclaimed (see acclaimedmusic.net). And, some that are didn't make this cut.

There have been other similar lists- one of note is LIFE magazine's list that marked the 50tgh anniversary of rock and roll, the Top 100 Rock & Rollers of All Time. The_Claw, how would the rankings look if you included this list? :-)

1. Elvis Presley
2. The Beatles
3. Bob Dylan
4. James Brown
5. The Rolling Stones
6. Madonna
7. Stevie Wonder
8. Chuck Berry
9. Michael Jackson
10. Kuyrt Cobain
11. Eric Clapton
12. Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young
13. Smokey Robinson
14. Aretha Franklin
15. Bruce Springsteen
16. Jimi Hendrix
17. Ray Charles
18. The Everly Brothers
19. The Drifters
20. The Beach Boys
21. Buddy Holly
22. The Band
23. Bob Marley
24. The Four Tops
25. Grateful Dead
26. Public Enemy
27. Sting
28. U2
29. The Isley Brothers
30. Little Richard
31. Janis Joplin
32. The Moonglows
33. Tina Turner
34. The Clash
35. Roy Orbison
36. David Bowie
37. The Doors
38. The Four Seasons
39. Ramones
40. Otis Redding
41. The Supremes
42. The Who
43. Blondie
44. Sly and The Family Stone
45. Van Morrison
46. The Shirelles
47. Sam & Dave
48. Elvis Costello
49. The Velvet Underground
50. Prince
51. The Righteous Brothers
52. The Byrds
53. The Bee Gees
54. Sam Cooke
55. Led Zeppelin
56. The Coasters
57. Santana
58. The Sex Pistols
59. Steely Dan
60. Wilson Pickett
61. Linda Ronstadt
62. Dave Matthews
63. Talking Heads
64. The Temptations
65. The Allman Brothers Band
66. Paul Simon
67. The Kinks
68. Marvin Gaye
69. R.E.M.
70. Dion
71. Dr. Dre
72. Dusty Springfield
73. Elton John
74. Curtis Mayfield
75. Radiohead
76. Beastie Boys
77. Black Sabbath
78. The Mamas and the Papas
79. Joni Mitchell
80. John Fogerty
81. The Pretenders
82. Al Green
83. Fats Domino
84. Martha and the Vandellas
85. Fleetwood Mac
86. Smashing Pumpkins
87. Kiss
88. Jefferson Airplane
89. The Flamingos
90. Dionne Warwick
91. Gene Pitney
92. George Clinton
93. Tom Petty
94. Bjork
95. Beck
96. The Eagles
97. Traffic
98. Rage Against the Machine
99. Pearl Jam
100. Frank Zappa

Posted by JR on Monday, 08.30.10 @ 18:00pm


RE: "LIFE Magazine's List"

The absence of Pink Floyd and Queen from any "Top 100 Artists" list automatically means the list can't be taken seriously. What's Sting's solo career doing so high at #27? And finally, why exactly is Kurt Cobain (whose name they spelled wrong) at #10 but no mention of Nirvana? And why is Smokey Robinson on this list (at #13) alone but no mention of the Miracles? I think I prefer this over VH1's new list but for the reasons I stated I still find it an atrocious list.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 04:46am


Not to mention the absence of CCR. And who decided that Tom Petty should be on the list without the Heartbreakers? And Dave Matthews as high as #62 (with the word "Band" mysteriously absent). Just what the world needs, someone else's opinion (and not a very informed one at that) on the world's "Top 100" artists.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 05:36am


IMMORTAL NON-PERFORMERS FOR INDUCTION

Producers

Tom Dowd
John Simon
Arif Mardin
Phil Ramone

Producers/Songwriters

Quincy Jones
Sergio Mendez
David Foster
Jim Steinman

Songwriters

Bob Crewe
David Porter
Richard Barrett
Robert Blackwell
Carole Bayer Sager
Bernie Taupin
Diane Warren

Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy
Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong
Burt Bacharach and Hal David
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux & Felice Bryant

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 06:28am


RE: "LIFE Magazine's List"

The absence of Pink Floyd and Queen from any "Top 100 Artists" list automatically means the list can't be taken seriously. What's Sting's solo career doing so high at #27? And finally, why exactly is Kurt Cobain (whose name they spelled wrong) at #10 but no mention of Nirvana? And why is Smokey Robinson on this list (at #13) alone but no mention of the Miracles? I think I prefer this over VH1's new list but for the reasons I stated I still find it an atrocious list.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 04:46am

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This is one of the more unusual and complicated artist lists I've seen published since I've been into music and have tracked down lists.

The title of the list is very interesting as it's not like your normal lists such as "100 Greatest Artists of All-Time," etc. It's called "The top 100 Rock N' Rollers of All-Time." Hence why I think this list is much more about image and how big of a star an artist was and not so much their musical and artistic output. So in some cases, they seemed to go for the breakout stars of certain bands rather than the bands themselves.

For example, people like Smokey Robinson, Kurt Cobain, Tom Petty, Sting, Bruce Springsteen, John Fogerty (who was on the list at #80), and George Clinton were the breakout stars/icons of their respective bands, hence why they made the list rather than put on the list with their bands. A very strange thing to do, but it is what it is.

So yeah because they decided to put "George Clinton" on the list instead of "Parliament/Funkdadelic" and "Kurt Cobain" on the list instead of "Nirvana" it seemed that they were going more for who were the biggest stars and singular icons in rock music history over who were the greatest artists. Stupid, but I think that was the idea behind the list?


As for whether it being a better list than the new VH1 list, I'm not so sure. It does a better job of paying homage to older artists (such as including The Moonglows, the Isley Brothers, Dion, Wilson Pickett, Gene Pitney, Dionne Warwick, The Righteous Brothers, the Shirelles, the Drifters, and the Four Seasons for example), but some of the rankings are absolutely insane, such as the Righteous Brothers and the Shirelles beings ahead of Led Zeppelin, or having the Drifters ahead of the Beach Boys. Plus again a list that doesn't have Queen nor Pink Floyd on it is pretty hard to take seriously. Then again Rolling Stone's list does just that.

But again I think this list is based more on who were the most iconic figures in music history, plus impact/influence on rock and roll, whether than who were the greatest artists in rock history. When you take that into account, their top 10 (Elvis, the Beatles, Dylan, the Stones, James Brown, Madonna, Stevie Wonder, Chuck Berry, Michael Jackson, and Kurt Cobain) is a pretty darn good top 10.

Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 07:18am


I guess I hadn't thought about it that way. I take back my comment about it being atrocious then.

"John Fogerty (who was on the list at #80)"

My mistake saying CCR wasn't at all represented on it then, I guess it just goes to show how much I've lost patience for all of these lists. In away, people know how I view lists like these (arbitrary and in a way meaningless, though they are inevitable and sometimes interesting), so in that case I won't complain about them anymore lol

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 08:16am


Still though, saying Pink Floyd or Queen aren't among the "Top 100 Rock & Rollers of All Time" (I really, really hate that "of All Time" they always have to stick at the end to lists like these) is a big mistake, IMO.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 08:19am


Kurt Cobain's spelling was my typo. :) LIFE released a book for the 50th anniversary of rock, with this list included (with some commentary on each entry). I also noticed that some "frontmen" seemed to be favored over the group itself. I also agree about Smokey Robinson- but, remember that he is in the Hall of Fame as a solo act, and The Miracles are not- it should be the other way around, as Smokey's solo work isn't all that acclaimed and revered compared to The Miracles.

Donnie, I agree that that is a pretty good top 10. You really can't go wrong with the big guns of music.

I enjoy following lists- artist, songs, albums, etc.- iot gives a good idea of which acts are generally critically favored, and how they're preceived. Now, the HOF has a number of acts who didn't enjoy HUGE acclaim, but, they've been judged worthy to be in the R&R HOF. For acts from the 50s/60s and even 70s- when year-end best-of lists and such weren't as prevalent as they became later on- level of acclaim may not tell the whole story.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 14:15pm


About Acclaimed Music: That site isn't actually offering opinions. They're just forming lists based on what the critical consensus is (for example, for an album of the year I think they'll gather up all the end of year lists...) The Top 200 of their greatest artists of all time*

*= In the Hall of Fame
#=Will likely be in the Hall eventually; some of these are locks, some are not

1. The Beatles*
2. The Rolling Stones*
3. Bob Dylan*
4. David Bowie*
5. Led Zeppelin*
6. Prince*
7. Bruce Springsteen*
8. The Who*
9. Elvis Presley*
10. Radiohead
11. Jimi Hendrix*
12. The Beach Boys*
13. The Velvet Underground*
14. Marvin Gaye*
15. R.E.M.*
16. The Clash*
17. U2*
18. Neil Young*
19. Nirvana#
20. Stevie Wonder*
21. Pink Floyd*
22. Bob Marley and The Wailers*
23. Elvis Costello*
24. The Smiths
25. Aretha Franklin*
26. Talking Heads*
27. Van Morrison*
28. The Byrds*
29. Public Enemy#
30. The Doors*
31. The Kinks*
32. James Brown*
33. Miles Davis*
34. Beastie Boys#
35. Michael Jackson*
36. Sex Pistols*
37. Johnny Cash*
38. Otis Redding*
39. Sly and the Family Stone*
40. Creedence Clearwater Revival*
41. John Lennon*
42. Madonna*
43. Pixies
44. Beck
45. Lou Reed
46. Roxy Music
47. Joni Mitchell*
48. Kraftwerk
49. Sonic Youth
50. Blur
51. Joy Division
52. Ramones*
53. The Band*
54. Oasis#
55. Simon and Garfunkel*
56. The Police*
57. New Order
58. Ray Charles*
59. John Coltrane
60. PJ Harvey
61. Massive Attack
62. The Stooges*
63. OutKast#
64. Tom Waits
65. Björk
66. The Jam
67. Chuck Berry*
68. Steely Dan*
69. Al Green*
70. The Cure# (Considering they had some stateside success; or am I just being too optimistic?)
71. The White Stripes#
72. AC/DC*
73. Metallica*
74. Parliament/Funkadelic*
75. Brian Eno
76. Black Sabbath*
77. Eminem#
78. Nick Cave
79. Frank Zappa/The Mothers of Invention*
80. Patti Smith*
81. Frank Sinatra
82. Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
83. Buddy Holly & The Crickets (The Cricket's aren't)*
84. Leonard Cohen*
85. LCD Soundsystem
86. Primal Scream
87. Fleetwood Mac*
88. Guns N' Roses#
89. Pavement
90. Elton John*
91. Nick Drake
92. Wilco
93. Pet Shop Boys
94. Pulp
95. T. Rex
96. Grateful Dead*
97. Run-D.M.C.*
98. Portishead
99. Little Richard*
100. Sam Cooke*
101. Eagles*
102. Queen*
103. Hüsker Dü
104. Pearl Jam#
105. Paul Simon*
106. Blondie*
107. Charles Mingus
108. The Specials
109. Missy Elliott
110. Smashing Pumpkins#
111. The Temptations*
112. Kate Bush
113. Duke Ellington
114. Arcade Fire (might be inducted)
115. Thelonious Monk
116. Kanye West (see Arcade Fire)
117. The Strokes (see Arcade Fire)
118. Aerosmith*
119. The Chemical Brothers
120. The Jesus and Mary Chain
121. Randy Newman
122. Muddy Waters
123. Cream*
124. The Everly Brothers*
125. Jay-Z#
126. The Stone Roses
127. My Bloody Valentine
128. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)*
129. Smokey Robinson and The Miracles* (Smokey's in, The Miracles aren't)
130. Jefferson Airplane*
131. Rod Stewart*
132. Curtis Mayfield*
133. Deep Purple
134. Peter Gabriel
135. Big Star
136. Franz Ferdinand
137. Grandmaster Flash*
138. TV on the Radio
139. The Flaming Lips
140. Roy Orbison*
141. Television
142. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and The Holding Company*
143. Pretenders*
144. The Replacements
145. Depeche Mode
146. De La Soul
147. Daft Punk
148. M.I.A.
149. Love
150. Chic#
151. The Supremes*
152. Red Hot Chili Peppers#
153. Santana*
154. The Verve
155. Dr. Dre# (as a Non-Performer)
156. Derek and The Dominos
157. Can
158. Tim Buckley
159. Coldplay#
160. Morrissey
161. Hank Williams*
162. Carole King
163. King Crimson
164. XTC
165. Ornette Coleman
166. Nine Inch Nails#
167. Herbie Hancock
168. Sonny Rollins
169. A Tribe Called Quest
170. Public Image Ltd.
171. Jerry Lee Lewis*
172. Jackson Browne*
173. Bo Diddley*
174. Echo and the Bunnymen
175. Eric B. & Rakim
176. The Prodigy
177. Ella Fitzgerald
178. Motörhead
179. Weezer#
180. Van Halen*
181. The Streets
182. Lynyrd Skynyrd*
183. Manic Street Preachers
184. N.W.A#
185. Queens of the Stone Age
186. Happy Mondays
187. Elliott Smith
188. Iggy Pop
189. Wire
190. Dusty Springfield*
191. Jimmy Cliff*
192. Sigur Rós
193. Suede
194. Gram Parsons# (Keeps getting nominated)
195. The Allman Brothers Band*
196. Robert Wyatt
197. Nico
198. ABBA*
199. John Cale
200. Serge Gainsbourg

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 08.31.10 @ 15:20pm


Nice job Sam in putting up Acclaimedmusic.net's 200 Greatest Artists list. Acclaimedmusic.net is an excellent website with very legitimate and credible lists. The most credible there are. Because unlike all of the other lists we see, this site's lists aren't based off of people voting and their subjective and often biased opinions. These lists are based on actual facts and stats.

The website basically tallies all of the major lists published and averages them out to determine proper rankings. Very good stuff.

So if you want an overall consensus of critical opinions of artists and songs and albums, and everything music related, this is the site to check out.


In addition to their top 200 Artists (actually I believe they go up to 1,000 artists) they have greatest songs lists for each year and decade and of all-time, greatest album lists for each year and decade and of all-time, and plenty more greatest artists list.


Great website. Good call Sam.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 09.1.10 @ 03:56am


No problem.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 09.1.10 @ 17:58pm


Indeed- love the Acclaimed Music site. It's due for a big update, hopefully before year's end.

One of its rules is not allowing single-critic lists, unless by a major critic/musical person(i.e. Robert Christgau, Elvis Costello, etc.)

Posted by JR on Thursday, 09.2.10 @ 10:20am


The Soul Survivors
The Intruders

Posted by Heather on Sunday, 09.5.10 @ 20:39pm


After watching some of it, I can't say that this list is too bad. I'm surprised at some of the musicians getting props. I'd never thought I'd hear Jonathan Davis and Corey Taylor giving props to Journey.

Posted by Jimbo on Monday, 09.6.10 @ 21:12pm


If any of it's up on YouTube, I'll watch it. My main complaint is some very deserving people snubbed while the likes of Beyonce make it in.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 09.9.10 @ 09:36am


1. The Beatles
2. Michael Jackson
3. Led Zeppelin
4. The Rolling Stones
5. Bob Dylan

- Voting was conducted by Shugoll Research. The list was determined by a poll of musicians and music experts. Over 200 artists voted including Alicia Keys, Diddy, Ozzy Osbourne and Carrie Underwood, as well as members of U2, the Police, Metallica and Aerosmith.

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 09.9.10 @ 22:58pm


Rick, I'm so proud of you for fighting the temptation to put ELO in the top five. ;)

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 09.9.10 @ 23:22pm


"Rick, I'm so proud of you for fighting the temptation to put ELO in the top five. ;)

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 09.9.10 @ 23:22pm"

Thanks, I would have been ecstatic if Vh1's voters had them ranked at #100!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 01:21am


DarrinRG, you don't know how hard it is to fight the urge! A thousand years from now when ELO is proclaimed as the greatest musical group of all time, you'll sure have egg on your face.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 06:08am


"DarrinRG, you don't know how hard it is to fight the urge! A thousand years from now when ELO is proclaimed as the greatest musical group of all time, you'll sure have egg on your face.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 06:08am"

LOL, thanks, I needed that!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 15:50pm


I just looked for video of it; I found none except for clips on Beyonce (nobody talking about her could seem to explain why they thought she was a legend), Mariah Carey (see Beyonce, except she has a stronger case) and Michael Jackson (he absolutely deserved to be on there, but he was way too high, and he would be quite rightly 20 or 30 spots lower if he hadn't died. Sorry to be harsh, but that's just how it is.) Whitney Houston (who I don't like) made it possible for Mariah and Beyonce, and yet she didn't even make the list. Both of them, Alicia Keyes, Coldplay (who I like), George Michael (like him too), Sade and Justin Timberlake make the list but Whitney Houston (who made it possible for ALL the divas), The Miracles, The Grateful Dead, The Velvet Underground, Soundgarden, Alice Cooper, New Order (they had some success on the dance charts so I think they're big enough to include), Oasis, Alice in Chains, Yes, Iron Maiden, Nine Inch Nails and Deep Purple (just off the top of my head) don't? Shudder. I dread to think what it'll look like if they do another one in ten years. Note: I didn't include some people like Joy Division, Sonic Youth, Blur, Happy Mondays, Husker Du and the Pixies not because they're unworthy; on the contrary, all of the above and some related bands should at least be considered for this kind of list. It's because they're so obscure (Stateside obscure in the case of the Mondays, Blur and Joy Division) that they had no shot of making it anyway.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 09.12.10 @ 15:39pm


Chuck Mangione

Posted by Heather on Wednesday, 09.15.10 @ 05:12am


Jan Hammer

Posted by Heather on Wednesday, 09.15.10 @ 05:15am


Oh Really! You could not have made my point any better if you had tried with all your heart.

Posted by Santana Rogers on Thursday, 09.16.10 @ 00:00am


http://www.mvdbase.com/

Music Video Database
Tells you who directed what

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.17.10 @ 04:15am


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN:

Yes
Kiss
Rush
Chicago
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
The Moody Blues
Chubby Checker
Jan and Dean
The Monkees
The Miracles
Darlene Love
Carole King
Tina Turner

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 07:34am


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN:

Yes
Kiss
Rush
Chicago
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
The Moody Blues
Chubby Checker
Jan and Dean
The Monkees
The Miracles
Darlene Love
Carole King
Tina Turner
Linda Ronstadt

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.27.10 @ 15:33pm


VH1's list from 2010 includes Sade. Really??? Who is Sade as a musician? Kiss??? My really bad farts while sitting on the crapper sound better than Kiss' music (if you want to even call it music), Journey??? Steve Perry's balls were cut off just so he could sing in falsetto. Mary J. Blige...she sounds like a bilge pump. Should be Mary J. Bilge-water. Outkast??? One good song doesn't make a great artist. There are so many other one hit wonders (okay maybe two hit wonders) on this list, it once again, demonstrates that VH-1 is about as credible as the Grammys...Milli Vanilli

Posted by hmm on Thursday, 09.30.10 @ 23:46pm


One more thing about the VH-1 2010 list. Though I like others better. ANY list that doesn't include Muddy Waters can be tossed. Muddy was (arguably) quite possibly the single most influential artist...you might say Howlin' Wolf or Bo Diddly or Willie Dixon. And they put Mariah Carey on the list instead of Muddy? VH-1 should lose their broadcast license.

Posted by hmm on Thursday, 09.30.10 @ 23:59pm


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN:

Yes
Kiss
Rush
Heart
Chicago
Cheap Trick
Deep Purple
Neil Diamond
Alice Cooper
The Moody Blues
The Doobie Brothers
Chubby Checker
Jan and Dean
The Monkees
The Miracles
Darlene Love
Carole King
Tina Turner
Linda Ronstadt

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 17:36pm


Let's add NY Dolls, King Crimson, & ELP to this list.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 17:56pm


FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS MUST ADD PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING ARTISTS

Manhattan Transfer, Dickie Goodman, Buchanan & Goodman, Buckner & Garcia, David Seville, Cheech & Chong, Stan Freberg, Sheb Wooley, Ben Colder, Roger Miller, Jerry Reed, Allan Sherman, The Sylvers, Samantha Sang, Spike Jones, Rick Dees, The McGuire Sisters, Georgia Gibbs, The Miami Sound Machine, Raydio, Ray Parker, Jr., Arcadia, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Donny and Marie Osmond, Marie Osmond, The DeFranco Family, Cab Calloway, Roy Milton, Soul Survivors, McFadden & Whitehead, People's Choice, Archie Bell & the Drells, The Three Degrees, The Ebonys, Billy Paul, MFSB, Blue Rodeo, Bill Conti, John Williams, Bob and Earl, Michael Penn, Maxi Priest, Patty Smyth, Lester Flatt, Chris De Burgh, Lighthouse, Chicago Loop, Cerrone, Peaches & Herb, Linda Thompson, Marilyn McCoo, Murray Head, Breathe, Johnny Hates Jazz, Taco, Rupert Holmes, Spandau Ballet, Matthew Wilder, Marcie Blane, Newbeats, Steve Lawrence, The Mindbenders, Little Peggy March, Trini Lopez, Vicki Carr, Steam, Mark Dinning, Walter Wanderley, The Zodiacs, Ocean, Ottawan, Looking Glass, Mary Hopkins, Nino Rota, The Rooftop Singers, Robert John, Dan Hill, Leo Sayer, The Undisputed Truth, Extreme, Bell Biv Devoe, Billy Eckstine, Bull Moose Jackson, Buddy and Ella Johnson, Billy Wright, Cecil Gant, Charley Patton, Clara Ward Singers, The Dixie Hummingbirds, Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson, Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi, Illinois Jacquet, Julia Lee, Joe Liggins, Joe Morris, Jimmy Preston, Jimmy Witherspoon, Larry Darnell, Lucky Millinder, Nellie Lutcher, The Pilgrim Travelers, Pine Top Smith, Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams, The Sensational Nightingales, Tiny Bradshaw, The Treniers, Wild Bill Moore

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.6.10 @ 05:13am


FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS MUST ADD PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING ARTISTS

MALE ARTISTS

Cab Calloway
Steve Lawrence
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
Ray Parker, Jr.
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
Billy Paul
Bill Conti
John Williams
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Murray Head
Taco
Rupert Holmes
Matthew Wilder

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Marie Osmond
Patty Smyth
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Marcie Blane
Little Peggy March
Trini Lopez
Vicki Carr
Mary Hopkins
Nino Rota

GROUPS

The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
Soul Survivors
McFadden & Whitehead
Peaches & Herb
Bob and Earl
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Donny and Marie Osmond
The Miami Sound Machine
Raydio
Arcadia
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Spandau Ballet
The Mindbenders
The Zodiacs
Ocean
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Rooftop Singers
The Undisputed Truth
Steam
Newbeats
Extreme
Bell Biv Devoe

NOVELTY

Dickie Goodman
Buchanan & Goodman
Buckner & Garcia
David Seville
Cheech & Chong
Stan Freberg
Sheb Wooley
Ben Colder
Roger Miller
Jerry Reed
Allan Sherman
Spike Jones
Rick Dees

EARLY INFLUENCE

Roy Milton
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Sensational Nightingales
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.6.10 @ 06:07am


You forgot Gary Wright, the Dream Weaver. What am I gonna do with you?

Posted by joker on Wednesday, 10.6.10 @ 10:32am


Eddie Fisher
Gary Wright
Nick Gilder
Shanice
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Jeremy Jordan

Posted by Heather on Wednesday, 10.6.10 @ 20:58pm


Roy: You forgot Cheryl Cole, Complete and all The X Factor contestants. Huge oversights :)

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 10.7.10 @ 02:02am


Roy, stop posting comments as Heather. You're not fooling anybody and you look ridiculous.

Posted by Roather on Thursday, 10.7.10 @ 07:49am


I could have sworn there was a page for Taylor Dayne here!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.7.10 @ 20:31pm


FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS MUST ADD PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING ARTISTS

MALE ARTISTS

Cab Calloway
Steve Lawrence
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
Ray Parker, Jr.
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
Billy Paul
Bill Conti
John Williams
Jan Hammer
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Murray Head
Taco
Rupert Holmes
Matthew Wilder
Martin Page
Marc Cohn
Eddie Fisher
Gary Wright
Nick Gilder
Jeremy Jordan

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Marie Osmond
Patty Smyth
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Shanice
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Taylor Dayne
Marcie Blane
Little Peggy March
Trini Lopez
Vicki Carr
Mary Hopkins
Nino Rota

GROUPS

The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
The Intruders
Soul Survivors
The Busboys
McFadden & Whitehead
Peaches & Herb
Bob and Earl
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
Donny and Marie Osmond
The Miami Sound Machine
Raydio
Arcadia
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Spandau Ballet
The Mindbenders
The Zodiacs
Ocean
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Rooftop Singers
The Undisputed Truth
Steam
Newbeats
Extreme
Bell Biv Devoe

NOVELTY

Dickie Goodman
Buchanan & Goodman
Buckner & Garcia
David Seville
Cheech & Chong
Stan Freberg
Sheb Wooley
Ben Colder
Roger Miller
Jerry Reed
Allan Sherman
Spike Jones
Rick Dees

EARLY INFLUENCE

Roy Milton
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Sensational Nightingales
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.11.10 @ 12:17pm


roy

Roger Miller and Jerry Reed are not NOVELTY acts. Miller is in the country music hall of fame and Reed should be.

Posted by Brian on Monday, 10.11.10 @ 13:56pm


Trini Lopez and Nino Rota are men, not women.

Posted by binder on Monday, 10.11.10 @ 18:01pm



My dad Bukka White should be added to your list/

Posted by irene kertchaval on Wednesday, 10.20.10 @ 20:56pm


My dad Bukka White should be added to your list/

Posted by irene kertchaval on Wednesday, 10.20.10 @ 20:56pm

Wow, if this really is Bukka White's daughter, I'm a huge fan of your old man (may he rest in peace). Truly one of the greatest bluesmen ever.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 10.20.10 @ 21:06pm


Two words - Bessie Smith. WHERE THE HELL IS SHE?????

Posted by ChuChu on Thursday, 10.21.10 @ 01:38am


More may be added to this list in 2011!

ARTISTS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.25.10 @ 06:05am


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.29.10 @ 05:02am


As flawed as the Rolling Stone list is neither VH1 list included Muddy or Bo Diddly. VH1 is the most mindless piece of crap on TV. It's so boring and lame, clocking in at about two yawns each second. Pap for the mindless.... As H.L. Mencken said: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." And VH1 has cashe in big on this principle.

Posted by D. Stroy on Friday, 10.29.10 @ 19:26pm


How about telling us what you DO like, D. Stroy, instead of what you don't like?

I was going to do a place-by-place analysis of the new list, but no time right now. Some other time, maybe.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 17:08pm


Oh and the whole show for the new list is up online, in case anyone's interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozUGyZeehWQ&feature=related

Or at least most of it is.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 11.9.10 @ 09:24am


http://www.pulitzer.org/bycat/Special-Awards-and-Citations

THE PULITZER

2010 Hank Williams
2008 Bob Dylan
2007 John Coltrane
2006 Thelonious Monk
1999 Duke Ellington
1998 George Gershwin
1982 Milton Babbitt
1976 Scott Joplin
1974 Roger Sessions

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.10.10 @ 04:53am


http://countrymusichalloffame.org/

THE COUNTRY MUSIC HALL OF FAME

2010 JIMMY DEAN
2010 FERLIN HUSKY
2010 BILLY SHERRILL
2010 DON WILLIAMS
2009 ROY CLARK
2009 BARBARA MANDRELL
2009 CHARLIE MCCOY
2008 TOM T. HALL
2008 EMMYLOU HARRIS
2008 THE STATLER BROTHERS
2008 ERNEST V. "POP" STONEMAN
2007 RALPH EMERY
2007 VINCE GILL
2007 MEL TILLIS
2006 HAROLD BRADLEY
2006 SONNY JAMES
2006 GEORGE STRAIT
2005 ALABAMA
2005 DEFORD BAILEY
2005 GLEN CAMPBELL
2004 JIM FOGLESONG
2004 KRIS KRISTOFFERSON
2003 FLOYD CRAMER
2003 CARL SMITH
2002 BILL CARLISLE
2002 PORTER WAGONER
2001 EVERLY BROTHERS
2001 BILL ANDERSON
2001 DELMORE BROTHERS
2001 DON GIBSON
2001 HOMER AND JETHRO
2001 WAYLON JENNINGS
2001 THE JORDANAIRES
2001 DON LAW
2001 THE LOUVIN BROTHERS
2001 KEN NELSON
2001 SAM PHILLIPS
2001 WEBB PIERCE
2000 CHARLEY PRIDE
2000 FARON YOUNG
1999 JOHNNY BOND
1999 DOLLY PARTON
1999 CONWAY TWITTY
1998 GEORGE MORGAN
1998 ELVIS PRESLEY
1998 E. W. “BUD” WENDELL
1998 TAMMY WYNETTE
1997 HARLAN HOWARD
1997 BRENDA LEE
1997 CINDY WALKER
1996 PATSY MONTANA
1996 BUCK OWENS
1996 RAY PRICE
1995 ROGER MILLER
1995 JO WALKER-MEADOR
1994 MERLE HAGGARD
1993 WILLIE NELSON
1992 GEORGE JONES
1992 FRANCES PRESTON
1991 BOUDLEAUX AND FELICE BRYANT
1990 TENNESSEE ERNIE FORD
1989 JACK STAPP
1989 CLIFFIE STONE
1989 HANK THOMPSON
1988 LORETTA LYNN
1988 ROY ROGERS
1987 ROD BRASFIELD
1986 THE DUKE OF PADUCAH
1986 WESLEY ROSE
1985 FLATT AND SCRUGGS
1984 RALPH S. PEER
1984 FLOYD TILLMAN
1983 LITTLE JIMMY DICKENS
1982 LEFTY FRIZZELL
1982 ROY HORTON
1982 MARTY ROBBINS
1981 VERNON DALHART
1981 GRANT TURNER
1980 JOHNNY CASH
1980 CONNIE B. GAY
1980 SONS OF THE PIONEERS
1979 HUBERT LONG
1979 HANK SNOW
1978 GRANDPA JONES
1977 MERLE TRAVIS
1976 PAUL COHEN
1976 KITTY WELLS
1975 MINNIE PEARL
1974 OWEN BRADLEY
1974 PEE WEE KING
1973 CHET ATKINS
1973 PATSY CLINE
1972 JIMMIE DAVIS
1971 ARTHUR E. SATHERLEY
1970 CARTER FAMILY
1970 BILL MONROE
1969 GENE AUTRY
1968 BOB WILLS
1967 RED FOLEY
1967 JOSEPH LEE FRANK
1967 JIM REEVES
1967 STEPHEN H. SHOLES
1966 EDDY ARNOLD
1966 JIM DENNY
1966 GEORGE D. HAY
1966 UNCLE DAVE MACON
1965 ERNEST TUBB
1964 TEX RITTER
1962 ROY ACUFF
1961 JIMMIE RODGERS
1961 FRED ROSE
1961 HANK WILLIAMS

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.10.10 @ 06:14am


http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/specialevents/honors/history/home.html

THE KENNEDY CENTER HONORS

2010 Merle Haggard
2010 Paul McCartney
2009 Dave Brubeck
2009 Bruce Springsteen
2008 George Jones
2008 Barbra Streisand
2008 Pete Townshend
2008 Roger Daltrey
2007 Diana Ross
2007 Brian Wilson
2006 Andrew Lloyd Webber
2006 Dolly Parton
2006 Smokey Robinson
2005 Tony Bennett
2005 Tina Turner
2004 Elton John
2004 John Williams
2003 James Brown
2003 Loretta Lynn
2002 Paul Simon
2001 Quincy Jones
2000 Chuck Berry
1999 Stevie Wonder
1998 Willie Nelson
1997 Bob Dylan
1996 Benny Carter
1996 Johnny Cash
1995 B.B. King
1994 Aretha Franklin
1994 Pete Seeger
1993 Marion Williams
1992 Lionel Hampton
1991 Roy Acuff
1990 Dizzy Gillespie
1989 Harry Belafonte
1987 Perry Como
1987 Sammy Davis Jr.
1986 Ray Charles
1984 Lena Horne
1983 Frank Sinatra
1982 Benny Goodman
1981 Count Basie
1979 Ella Fitzgerald

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.10.10 @ 07:08am


ARTISTS WHO HAVE BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME MORE THAN ONCE:

I. THREE TIMES

A) ERIC CLAPTON

01. 1992 - The Yardbirds
02. 1993 - Cream
03. 2000 - Eric Clapton

II. TWO TIMES

A) CLYDE McPHATTER

01. 1987 - Clyde McPhatter
02. 1988 - The Drifters

B) GEORGE HARRISON

01. 1988 - The Beatles
02. 2004 - George Harrison

C) PAUL McCARTNEY

01. 1988 - The Beatles
02. 1999 - Paul McCartney

D) JOHN LENNON

01. 1988 - The Beatles
02. 1994 - John Lennon

E) PAUL SIMON

01. 1990 - Simon and Garfunkel
02. 2001 - Paul Simon

F) DAVID CROSBY

01. 1991 - The Byrds
02. 1997 - Crosby, Stills & Nash

G) CURTIS MAYFIELD

01. 1991 - The Impressions
02. 1999 - Curtis Mayfield

H) JIMMY PAGE

01. 1992 - The Yardbirds
02. 1995 - Led Zeppelin

I) JEFF BECK

01. 1992 - The Yardbirds
02. 2009 - Jeff Beck

J) NEIL YOUNG

01. 1995 - Neil Young
02. 1997 - Buffalo Springfield

K) MICHAEL JACKSON

01. 1997 - The Jackson 5
02. 2001 - Michael Jackson

L) STEPHEN STILLS

01. 1997 - Crosby, Stills & Nash
02. 1997 - Buffalo Springfield

M) GRAHAM NASH

01. 1997 - Crosby, Stills & Nash
02. 2010 - The Hollies

N) JOHN CARTER

01. 2001 - The Flamingos
02. 2004 - The Dells

O) SAMMY STRAIN

01. 2005 - The O'Jays
02. 2009 - Little Anthony & the Imperials

THE YEAR WITH THE MOST SECOND INDUCTIONS:

1997 - (3) - DAVID CROSBY, NEIL YOUNG, STEPHEN STILLS

SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND INDUCTIONS:

SAME YEAR (1997) STEPHEN STILLS

LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND INDUCTIONS:

17 YEARS (1992-2009) JEFF BECK

LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND THIRD INDUCTIONS:

8 YEARS (1992-2000) ERIC CLAPTON

LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD INDUCTIONS:

7 YEARS (1993-2000) ERIC CLAPTON

ARTIST WITH THE MOST INDUCTIONS

ERIC CLAPTON (3)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11.11.10 @ 22:05pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.14.10 @ 20:17pm


http://www.vocalgrouphalloffame.com/inductees.htm

THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME

2002 Abba
2005 Alabama
1998 The Andrews Sisters
2005 The Angels
2006 America
2005 American Quartet
1998 The Ames Brothers
2003 The Association
2000 The Bangles
1998 The Beach Boys
2004 The Beatles
2001 The Bee Gees
2000 Ben E. King & The Drifters
2006 Billy Ward & The Dominoes
1998 The Boswell Sisters
2006 Bread
2005 Brooklyn Bridge
2006 The Byrds
2004 The Cadillacs
2002 The Chantels
2003 The Charioteers
2005 The Chiffons
2005 The Chi-Lites
2001 The Chordettes
2007 The Chords
2002 The Clovers
1999 The Coasters
2003 The Commodores
2004 The Crests
1998 Crosby, Stills & Nash
2005 The Crystals
2003 Danny & The Juniors
2004 The Dells
2005 The Del Vikings
2006 Deep River Boys
2004 The Diamonds
2002 5th Dimension
2000 Dion & The Belmonts
2004 The Doobie Brothers
2000 Dixie Hummingbirds
1998 The Original Drifters
2006 The Duprees
2001 The Eagles
2003 Earth Wind & Fire
2004 The Everly Brothers
1998 The Five Blind Boys of Mississippi
2002 The Five Keys
2007 The Five Red Caps
2003 The Five Satins
2000 The Flamingos
2006 The Fleetwoods
2005 Fleetwood Mac
2001 The Four Aces
2001 The Four Freshman
2002 The Four Knights
2003 The Four Lads
2007 The Four Preps
1999 The Four Seasons
1999 The Four Tops
2004 The Four Tunes
2002 Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
2001 Gladys Knight & The Pips
1998 The Golden Gate Quartet
1999 Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
2007 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
2006 Hayden Quartet
2002 The Harptones
2006 The Hi-Lo's
2005 The Hilltoppers
2007 The Hoboken Four
2006 The Hollies
2003 The Impressions
2003 Isley Brothers
1999 Ink Spots
1999 Jackson Five
2002 Jay & The Americans
2007 The Jive Five
2004 The Jordanaires
2006 Journey
2000 The Kingston Trio
2007 Kool & The Gang
2001 The Lennon Sisters
2001 The Lettermen
1999 Little Anthony & The Imperials
2006 The Lovin' Spoonful
1998 Manhattan Transfer
2000 Mamas & The Papas
2002 The Marcels
2003 Martha & The Vandellas
2004 The Marvelettes
2007 Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs ;
The Gladiolas
2001 The McGuire Sisters
2005 The Mel-Tones
2003 The Merry Macs
1998 The Mills Brothers
1999 The Modernaires
2006 The Moody Blues
1999 The Moonglows
2007 The Monkees
2005 The Neville Brothers
2001 The Oak Ridge Boys
2004 The O'Jays
1998 The Platters
2003 The Peerless Quartet
2004 The Penguins
1999 Peter, Paul & Mary
2001 The Pied Pipers
2005 The Pointer Sisters
2006 Queen
2005 The Rascals
1998 The Ravens
1999 The Revelers
2005 The Righteous Brothers
2004 The Ronettes
2007 Ruby & The Romantics
2006 The Shangri-las
2002 The Shirelles
2006 Simon & Garfunkel
2000 The Skylarks
2002 The Skyliners
2007 Sly & The Family Stone
2001 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
1998 Sonny Til & The Orioles
2005 Sons of the Pioneers
2000 The Soul Stirrers
2005 The Spaniels
1999 The Spinners
2004 The Stylistics
1998 The Supremes
2002 The Swan Silvertones
2000 Three Dog Night
1999 The Temptations
2004 The Tokens
2007 Tony Orlando and Dawn
2007 The Traveling Wilbury's
2005 The Tymes
2001 The Weavers
2003 The Whispers
2001 The Vogues

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.14.10 @ 20:25pm


As much as I love vocal harmonies, and followed the Vocal Group Hall Of Fame in it's time, the fact is that the induction of the Hoboken Four kind of points out that it wasn't all that credible an institution. The Hoboken Four NEVER put out a single commercial recording. The only time ANYONE ever heard them sing was on the Major Bowes radio hour in 1935, when they won the talent show (and possible subsequent tour thereafter). And then, we may have never heard of them if not for Major Bowes meddling. We should thank Major Bowes for helping with the discovery of Frank Sinatra, though. They were known as the 3 Flashes (or something like that) until Major Bowes insisted that Frank be made a part of the group, and call themselves the Hoboken Four.

The Hoboken Four never did anything to perpetuate the art of vocal harmonies in popular music. Their induction into the VGHoF was all about saying they inducted Frank Sinatra into their club. I'm surprise they didn't make the Jordanaires' induction "Elvis Presley And The Jordanaires", or the Mel-Tones as "Mel Torme And His Mel-Tones". Especially when neither group had a hit on their own apart from their lead singer or backing up anyone else.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 11.14.10 @ 21:28pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - HANK WILLIAMS
02. 1987 - B.B. KING
03. 1992 - JIMI HENDRIX (THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 14:58pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 18:51pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 19:39pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 20:19pm


Why use the Hollywood Walk of Fame as an example of anything? Those are "honors" that only proceed with a nominee's consent, and then a selection fee must be paid. It's not a measure of any kind of greatness or anything.

Posted by JR on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 20:36pm


http://www.aria.com.au/pages/hall-of-fame.htm

THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME

1988 Dame Joan Sutherland, Johnny O'Keefe, Slim Dusty, Col Joye, Vanda & Young, AC/DC
1989 Dame Nellie Melba, Ross Wilson
1990 Percy Grainger, Sherbet
1991 Billy Thorpe, Glenn Shorrock, Don Burrows
1992 Skyhooks, Pete Dawson
1993 Cold Chisel, Peter Allen
1994 Men At Work
1995 The Seekers
1996 Australian Crawl, Horrie Dargie
1997 The Bee Gees, Paul Kelly, Graeme Bell
1998 The Masters Apprentices, The Angels
1999 Richard Clapton, Jimmy Little
2001 INXS, The Saints
2002 Olivia Newton John
2003 John Farnham
2004 Little River Band
2005 Split Enz, Renee Geyer, Normie Rowe, Smoky Dawson, The Easybeats, Hunters & Collectors, Jimmy Barnes
2006 Midnight Oil, Divinyls, Rose Tattoo, Helen Reddy, Daddy Cool, Icehouse and Lobby Loyde
2007 Frank Ifield, Hoodoo Gurus, Marcia Hines, Jo Jo Zep & The Falcons, Brian Cadd, Radio Birdman and Nick Cave
2008 Dragon, Max Merritt, Rolf Harris, Russell Morris and The Triffids
2009 John Paul Young, Mental As Anything, Little Pattie, The Dingoes and Kev Carmody
2010 John Williamson, Models, Johnny Young, The Loved Ones and The Church

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.16.10 @ 14:33pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.16.10 @ 15:19pm


FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS MUST ADD PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING ARTISTS

MALE ARTISTS

Jewel Akens
Trini Lopez
Nino Rota
Cab Calloway
Steve Lawrence
Mark Dinning
Walter Wanderley
Ray Parker, Jr.
Robert John
Dan Hill
Leo Sayer
Billy Paul
Bill Conti
John Williams
Jan Hammer
Michael Penn
Maxi Priest
Lester Flatt
Chris De Burgh
Murray Head
Taco
Rupert Holmes
Matthew Wilder
Martin Page
Marc Cohn
Eddie Fisher
Gary Wright
Nick Gilder
Jeremy Jordan

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Marie Osmond
Patty Smyth
Linda Thompson
Marilyn McCoo
Shanice
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Taylor Dayne
Lisa Stansfield
Jane Child
Marcie Blane
Little Peggy March
Mary Hopkins

GROUPS

The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
The Intruders
Soul Survivors
The Busboys
McFadden & Whitehead
Peaches & Herb
Bob and Earl
People's Choice
Archie Bell & the Drells
The Three Degrees
The Ebonys
MFSB
Blue Rodeo
The American Breed
Donny and Marie Osmond
The Miami Sound Machine
Raydio
Arcadia
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lighthouse
Chicago Loop
Cerrone
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Spandau Ballet
The Mindbenders
The Zodiacs
Ocean
Ottawan
Looking Glass
Rooftop Singers
The Undisputed Truth
Steam
Newbeats
Extreme
Bell Biv Devoe

NOVELTY

Dickie Goodman
Buchanan & Goodman
Buckner & Garcia
David Seville
Cheech & Chong
Stan Freberg
Sheb Wooley
Ben Colder
Allan Sherman
Spike Jones
Rick Dees

EARLY INFLUENCE

Roy Milton
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Sensational Nightingales
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.16.10 @ 18:45pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE NAACP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - George Clinton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.16.10 @ 18:47pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO CANADA'S WALK OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE NAACP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - George Clinton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO CANADA'S WALK OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2005 - Paul Anka

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE JUNO/CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1991 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE NATIONAL ORDER OF QUEBEC IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 11:44am


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE NAACP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - George Clinton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO CANADA'S WALK OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2005 - Paul Anka

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE JUNO/CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1991 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE NATIONAL ORDER OF QUEBEC IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 11:53am


what is up with all of these lists you are making Roy, what is the point you are trying to make?

Posted by Brian on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 14:13pm


Brian's right Roy, why are you littering the site with these pointless lists?

How come my message's keep getting rejected for "looking too much like spam", but Roy can post these spacewasters?

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 16:08pm


The bastard has OCD, I think. Lock him away somewhere.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 11.18.10 @ 11:30am


General Public

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.23.10 @ 09:45am


Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
Boy Meets Girl

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.2.10 @ 20:30pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE GUEST STARS ON THE MUPPET SHOW AND LATER INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME:

1. Diana Ross (1988 with Supremes)
2. Elton John (1994)
3. Gladys Knight (1996 with the Pips)
4. Debbie Harry (2006 with Blondie)
5. Alice Cooper (2011 with eponymous band)

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12.14.10 @ 19:28pm


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

270 inductees in 26 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees - BEST YEAR EVER!
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees - WORST YEAR EVER!
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees

2010 - 13 inductees
2011 - 08 inductees

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-Present):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Beastie Boys, Donna Summer, War, KISS, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers, LL Cool J, Bon Jovi, Donovan

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.14.10 @ 21:43pm


Philip, you missed one guest who appeared on "The Muppet Show" who later became an RRHOF inductee: Paul Simon. Here is a revised list:

GUESTS WHO APPEARED ON THE MUPPET SHOW WHO LATER BECAME RRHOF INDUCTEES:

Diana Ross (1988 with The Supremes)
Paul Simon (1990 with Simon & Garfunkel; 2001 solo)
Elton John (1994)
Gladys Knight (1996 with the Pips)
Debbie Harry (2006 with Blondie)
Alice Cooper (2011 with eponymous band)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 02:42am


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN, UPDATED!:

01. Chubby Checker
02. The Monkees
03. The Miracles
04. Jan and Dean

05. Mary Wells
06. Dionne Warwick
07. Carole King
08. Joan Baez
09. Judy Collins
10. Laura Nyro
11. Tina Turner
12. Linda Ronstadt
13. Carly Simon

14. Yes
15. Kiss
16. Rush
17. Heart
18. Chicago
19. The Cars
20. Hall & Oates
21. Cheap Trick
22. Deep Purple
23. Jethro Tull
24. King Crimson
25. The Moody Blues
26. The Doobie Brothers
27. Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 06:22am


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN, UPDATED!:

01. Chubby Checker
02. The Monkees
03. The Miracles
04. Jan and Dean

05. Mary Wells
06. Dionne Warwick
07. Carole King
08. Joan Baez
09. Judy Collins
10. Laura Nyro
11. Tina Turner
12. Linda Ronstadt
13. Carly Simon

14. Yes
15. Kiss
16. Rush
17. Heart
18. Chicago
19. The Cars
20. Hall & Oates
21. Cheap Trick
22. Deep Purple
23. Jethro Tull
24. King Crimson
25. The Moody Blues
26. The Doobie Brothers
27. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
28. Peter, Paul and Mary
29. The Kingston Trio
30. The Surfaris

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 07:24am


ARTISTS WHO APPEARED AS GUESTS ON SESAME STREET WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME.

Ray Charles (1986)
Stevie Wonder (1989)
Paul Simon (1990 with Simon & Garfunkel; 2001 solo)
Johnny Cash (1992)
Billy Joel (1999)
James Taylor (2000)
Neil Diamond (2011)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 09:09am


ARTISTS WHO APPEARED ON SESAME STREET WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK & ROLL NALL OF FAME UPDATED

RayCharles (1986)
Stevie Wonder (1989)
Paul Simon (1990 with Simon & Garfunkel; 2001 solo)
Johnny Cash (1992)
Billy Joel (1999)
James Taylor (2000)
R.E.M. (2007)
Neil Diamond (2011)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 09:29am


HALL OF FAMERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE LAST WALTZ

Muddy Waters (1987)
Ringo Starr (1988 with the Beatles)
Bob Dylan (1988)
Ronnie Wood (1989 with the Rolling Stones)
Bill Graham (1992)
Eric Clapton (1992 With the The Yardbirds; 1993 with Cream and 2000 solO)
Van Morrison (1993)
The Band (1994)
Neil Young (1995 solo; 1997 with Buffalo Springfield)
Stephen Stills (1997 with Buffalo Springfield and Crosby, Stills & Nash)
Joni Mitchell (1997)
Allen Toussaint (1998)
The Staple Singers (1999)
Neil Diamond (2011)
Dr. John (2011)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 12.15.10 @ 20:27pm


www.futurerocklegends.com is definitely very nice so far.

Posted by earn money with google on Thursday, 12.16.10 @ 07:50am


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

SIDEMEN CATEGORY INDUCTEES

2000 Hal Blaine
2000 King Curtis
2000 James Jamerson
2000 Scotty Moore
2000 Earl Palmer
2001 James Burton
2001 Johnnie Johnson
2002 Chet Atkins
2003 Benny Benjamin
2003 Floyd Cramer
2003 Steve Douglas
2008 Little Walter
2009 Bill Black
2009 D.J. Fontana
2009 Spooner Oldham
2011 Leon Russell

NON-PERFORMER CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 Alan Freed
1986 Sam Phillips
1987 Leonard Chess
1987 Ahmet Ertegun
1987 Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
1987 Jerry Wexler
1988 Berry Gordy, Jr
1989 Phil Spector
1990 Gerry Goffin and Carole King
1990 Holland-Dozier-Holland
1991 Dave Bartholomew
1991 Ralph Bass
1992 Leo Fender
1992 Bill Graham
1992 Doc Pomus
1993 Dick Clark
1993 Milt Gabler
1994 Johnny Otis
1995 Paul Ackerman
1996 Tom Donahue
1997 Syd Nathan
1998 Allen Toussaint
1999 George Martin
2000 Clive Davis
2001 Chris Blackwell
2002 Jim Stewart
2003 Mo Ostin
2008 Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff
2010 David Geffen
2010 Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
2010 Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry
2010 Jesse Stone
2010 Mort Shuman
2010 Otis Blackwell
2011 Jac Holzman
2011 Art Rupe

LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT CATEGORY INDUCTEES

1986 John Hammond
1991 Nesuhi Ertegun
2004 Jann Wenner
2005 Frank Barsalona
2005 Seymour Stein
2006 Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.17.10 @ 21:58pm


IMMORTAL NON-PERFORMERS FOR INDUCTION

Producers

Bernie Lowe
Tom Dowd
John Simon
Arif Mardin
Phil Ramone

Producers/Songwriters

Quincy Jones
Sergio Mendez
David Foster
Jim Steinman

Songwriters

Bob Crewe
David Porter
Richard Barrett
Robert Blackwell
Carole Bayer Sager
Bernie Taupin
Diane Warren

Kal Mann and Dave Appell
Bert Berns & Jerry Ragavoy
Norman Whitfield and Barret Strong
Burt Bacharach and Hal David
Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy
Thom Bell and Linda Creed
Boudleaux & Felice Bryant

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.24.10 @ 04:02am


Loudon Wainwright III
Kate & Anna McGarrigle
Kate McGarrigle
Anna McGarrigle

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.25.10 @ 10:21am


When is the next time Future Rock Legends will be adding more artists to their site?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.25.11 @ 12:21pm


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, Richard Manuel, Robbie Robertson (The Band)
02. 1995 - Neil Young
03. 1997 - Neil Young, Bruce Palmer, Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
04. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
05. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
06. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.25.11 @ 13:15pm


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, Richard Manuel, Robbie Robertson (The Band)
02. 1995 - Neil Young
03. 1997 - Neil Young, Bruce Palmer, Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
04. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
05. 1997 - Gene Cornish (The (Young) Rascals)
05. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
06. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.26.11 @ 04:27am


I think as the older generation on the Rock Hall committee gets older or passes on, all the remaining artists from the 50s will be inducted in the Early Influence category because the younger voters don't know who they are, or don't appreciate, or never listened to their music. The Rock Hall will have no choice but to forget about nominating 50s artists in the main performers category, and just inducting them in the Early Influence category.

She would have been inducted in the main performers category if the Rock Hall had been inducting more than 5 artists that year. I wonder how many votes she actually got. Why couldn't they have just kept on nominating her every year until she got in. Does her induction in the early influence category after being nominated in the main performers category, make her induction any less important? Is she any less significant? Is she any less of an inductee? Is anyone who wanted her in the Rock Hall angry because she is in the Rock Hall but not in the category they wanted her to be inducted in?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.27.11 @ 15:21pm


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, Richard Manuel, Robbie Robertson (The Band)
02. 1995 - Neil Young
03. 1997 - Neil Young, Bruce Palmer, Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
04. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
05. 1997 - Gene Cornish (The (Young) Rascals)
06. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
07. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.27.11 @ 15:23pm


"I think as the older generation on the Rock Hall committee gets older or passes on, all the remaining artists from the 50s will be inducted in the Early Influence category because the younger voters don't know who they are, or don't appreciate, or never listened to their music. The Rock Hall will have no choice but to forget about nominating 50s artists in the main performers category, and just inducting them in the Early Influence category."--Roy

And I think this is so far off-base as to be ridiculous. The fact of who they allow to be on the NomCom suggests a knowledge of rock'n'roll's origins as well as it's continuing history. There will always be the choice.

"She would have been inducted in the main performers category if the Rock Hall had been inducting more than 5 artists that year."--Roy

You don't know that.

"Does her induction in the early influence category after being nominated in the main performers category, make her induction any less important?"

Maybe, but more importantly, it cheapens the Hall, its processes, its rules, etc. Everyone knows this was because they didn't get her in as a Performer. At least with Carole King, Elmore James, and King Curtis, there was a convincing argument of their merits in those categories. Wanda's was simply because they wanted her in now.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01.27.11 @ 17:53pm


For Discussion's sakem here's Not In Hall Of Fames new Top 100 list:

1. Rush
2. Kraftwerk
3. KISS
4. Deep Purple
5. RHCP
6. New Order
7. Roxy Music
8. Beastie Boys
9. The Smiths
10. Willie Nelson
11. Jethro Tull
12. Judas Priest
13. The Cure
14. Afrika Bamabaataa
15. Guns N' Roses
16. John Coltrane
17. Chicago
18. MC5
19. Big Star
20. Gram Parsons
21. Peter Gabriel
22. Iron Maiden
23. The Jam
24. Stevie Ray Vaughan
25. T. Rex
26. Joy Division
27. Dick Dale
28. Yes
29. Steve Miller Band
30. Bon Jovi
31. Depeche Mode
32. Cat Stevens
33. Heart
34. The Moody Blues
35. Lou Reed
36. Motorhead
37. King Crimson
38. Brian Eno
39. Captain Beefheart
40. Link Wray
41/ The Doobie Brothers
42. Sonic Youth
43. Duran Duran
44. Soundgarden
45. Def Leppard
46. The Monkees
47. ELP
48. The Sonics
49. Husker Du
50. The Cars
51. Love
52. The B-52's
53. X
54. Warren Zevon
55. The New York Dolls
56. The Miracles
57. War
58. Janet Jackson
59. The Small Faces
60. Cheap Trick
61. Donna Summer
62. The Replacements
63. Procol Harum
64. Steppenwolf
65. Herbie Hancock
66. Buzzcocks
67. Pat Benatar
68. Journey
69. Jan & Dean
70. The Zombies
71. ELO
72. Mary Wells
73. Todd Rundgren
74. The Dominoes
75. Motley Crue
76. The Spinners
77. Eric B. & Rakim
78. Dire Straits
79. Pantera
80. Chic
81. Little Feat
82. Blue Oyster Cult
83. Thin Lizzy
84. Primal Scream
85. Ben E. King
86. Ozzy Osbourne
87. Supertramp
88. The Go-Go's
89. Gil-Scott Herron
90. My Bloody Valentine
91. Hall & Oates
92. Boston
93. Black Flag
94. Johnny Ace
95. The Commodores
96. Three Dog Night
97. Bad Company
98. The Shangri-La's
99. Devo
100. Styx

Posted by Jim on Sunday, 01.30.11 @ 09:51am


http://www.songhall.org/forms/shof_membership.pdf

You can vote on who gets inducted into The Songwriters Hall Of Fame every year. If you are not a member of the music industry, you only qualify for Lifetime Membership, which will cost you $1000.00.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 01.31.11 @ 08:54am


VH1: 100 GREATEST WOMEN OF ROCK (1999)

01. Aretha Franklin
02. Tina Turner
03. Janis Joplin
04. Bonnie Raitt
05. Joni Mitchell
06. Billie Holiday
07. Chrissie Hynde
08. Madonna
09. Annie Lennox
10. Carole King
11. Patsy Cline
12. Debbie Harry
13. Ella Fitzgerald
14. Stevie Nicks
15. Patti Smith
16. The Supremes
17. Chaka Khan
18. Gladys Knight
19. Etta James
20. Grace Slick
21. Linda Ronstadt
22. Emmylou Harris
23. Mamas & The Papas
24. Dusty Springfield
25. Marianne Faithfull
26. Bessie Smith
27. Joan Baez
28. Carly Simon
29. Karen Carpenter
30. Rickie Lee Jones
31. Barbra Streisand
32. Joan Jett
33. k.d. lang
34. Dolly Parton
35. Sinéad O'Connor
36. Björk
37. Donna Summer
38. Diana Ross
39. Pat Benatar
40. Heart
41. Patti LaBelle
42. Dionne Warwick
43. Cher
44. Sheryl Crow
45. Roberta Flack
46. Kate Bush
47. The B-52's
48. Dinah Washington
49. Melissa Etheridge
50. Sarah Vaughan
51. Bette Midler
52. Laura Nyro
53. Alanis Morissette
54. Tracy Chapman
55. PJ Harvey
56. Martha & The Vandellas
57. Mavis Staples
58. Cyndi Lauper
59. Joan Armatrading
60. Ruth Brown
61. Whitney Houston
62. Lena Horne
63. Christine McVie
64. The Shirelles
65. Loretta Lynn
66. Sade
67. The Ronettes
68. Hole
69. Sarah McLachlan
70. Abba
71. Tori Amos
72. Queen Latifah
73. Tammy Wynette
74. Anita Baker
75. Exene Cervenka
76. The Go-Go's
77. Janet Jackson
78. Mahalia Jackson
79. Indigo Girls
80. Big Mama Thornton
81. Gloria Estefan
82. Grace Jones
83. Salt-N-Pepa
84. Yoko Ono
85. Petula Clark
86. Laurie Anderson
87. Nico
88. Sheila E.
89. Eartha Kitt
90. Ani DiFranco
91. Kim Gordon
92. Natalie Cole
93. Peggy Lee
94. Liz Phair
95. Olivia Newton-John
96. Siouxsie Sioux
97. Lucinda Williams
98. Kim Deal
99. Tina Weymouth
100. Erykah Badu

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.1.11 @ 11:31am


Not on VH1's list

Judy Collins
Anne Murray
Celine Dion
Mariah Carey
The Pointer Sisters

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.1.11 @ 15:18pm


Jewel Akens
Robert John
Leo Sayer
Bill Conti
John Williams
Jan Hammer
Murray Head
Marc Cohn
Eddie Fisher

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Lisa Stansfield
Jane Child

GROUPS

The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
The Intruders
The Busboys
The American Breed
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Bell Biv Devoe
Ottawan

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.2.11 @ 23:13pm


Darlene Love
The Blossoms
Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
The Crystals

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 05:55am


MALE ARTISTS

Roy Milton
Jewel Akens
Robert John
Leo Sayer
Bill Conti
John Williams
Jan Hammer
Murray Head
Marc Cohn
Eddie Fisher
Stephen Bishop

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Lisa Stansfield
Jane Child

GROUPS

Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
The Intruders
The Busboys
The American Breed
General Public
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Bell Biv Devoe
Ottawan

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 06:00am


ARTISTS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BY PAUL SHAFFER

01. 2003 Benny Benjamin
02. 2003 Floyd Cramer
03. 2003 Steve Douglas
04. 2009 Spooner Oldham

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 12:04pm


BANDS WITH THE MOST INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10)
02. U2 (6)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
02. Seymour Stein (5)
02. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
02. Carole King (5)
02. Bruce Springsteen (5)
02. Billy Joel (5)

03. Paul Simon (4)
03. Elton John (4)
03. John Fogerty (4)
03. Bonnie Raitt (4)
03. Robbie Robertson (4)
03. Eddie Vedder (4)
03. Paul Shaffer (4)
03. Bono (4)

04. Little Richard (3)
04. Phil Spector (3)
04. Lou Reed (3)
04. Jann Wenner (3)
04. Steven Van Zandt (3)
04. ZZ Top (3)

05. Quincy Jones (2)
05. Ray Charles (2)
05. Brian Wilson (2)
05. Mick Jagger (2)
05. Darlene Love (2)
05. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
05. Chuck Berry (2)
05. Ben E. King (2)
05. B.B. King (2)
05. Eric Clapton (2)
05. Steven Tyler (2)
05. Sting (2)
05. Jeff Beck (2)
05. James Taylor (2)
05. Tom Petty (2)
05. Mick Jones (2)
05. Natalie Cole (2)
05. Paul McCartney (2)
05. Melissa Etheridge (2)
05. Justin Timberlake (2)
05. The Edge (2)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 17:46pm


BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
02. Seymour Stein (5)
02. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
02. Carole King (5)
02. Bruce Springsteen (5)
02. Billy Joel (5)

03. Paul Simon (4)
03. Elton John (4)
03. John Fogerty (4)
03. Bonnie Raitt (4)
03. Robbie Robertson (4)
03. Eddie Vedder (4)
03. Paul Shaffer (4)
03. Bono (4)

04. Little Richard (3)
04. Phil Spector (3)
04. Lou Reed (3)
04. Jann Wenner (3)
04. Steven Van Zandt (3)
04. ZZ Top (3)

05. Quincy Jones (2)
05. Ray Charles (2)
05. Brian Wilson (2)
05. Mick Jagger (2)
05. Darlene Love (2)
05. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
05. Chuck Berry (2)
05. Ben E. King (2)
05. B.B. King (2)
05. Eric Clapton (2)
05. Steven Tyler (2)
05. Sting (2)
05. Jeff Beck (2)
05. James Taylor (2)
05. Tom Petty (2)
05. Mick Jones (2)
05. Natalie Cole (2)
05. Paul McCartney (2)
05. Melissa Etheridge (2)
05. Justin Timberlake (2)
05. The Edge (2)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 19:41pm


BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)
03. The Yardbirds (5) - Eric Clapton (2) ; Jeff Beck (2) ; Jimmy Page (1)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
02. Seymour Stein (5)
02. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
02. Carole King (5)
02. Bruce Springsteen (5)
02. Billy Joel (5)

03. Paul Simon (4)
03. Elton John (4)
03. John Fogerty (4)
03. Bonnie Raitt (4)
03. Robbie Robertson (4)
03. Eddie Vedder (4)
03. Paul Shaffer (4)
03. Bono (4)

04. Little Richard (3)
04. Phil Spector (3)
04. Lou Reed (3)
04. Jann Wenner (3)
04. Steven Van Zandt (3)
04. ZZ Top (3)

05. Quincy Jones (2)
05. Ray Charles (2)
05. Brian Wilson (2)
05. Mick Jagger (2)
05. Darlene Love (2)
05. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
05. Chuck Berry (2)
05. Ben E. King (2)
05. B.B. King (2)
05. Eric Clapton (2)
05. Steven Tyler (2)
05. Sting (2)
05. Jeff Beck (2)
05. James Taylor (2)
05. Tom Petty (2)
05. Mick Jones (2)
05. Natalie Cole (2)
05. Paul McCartney (2)
05. Melissa Etheridge (2)
05. Justin Timberlake (2)
05. The Edge (2)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 19:49pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME TWICE IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - Stephen Stills (Buffalo Springfield; Crosby, Stills and Nash)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone
06. 2011 - Leon Russell

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE NAACP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - George Clinton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - ABBA

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Jackie DeShannon

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO CANADA'S WALK OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2005 - Paul Anka

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE JUNO/CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1991 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE NATIONAL ORDER OF QUEBEC IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.22.11 @ 05:24am


Roy's totally taken over this thread.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 03.8.11 @ 07:17am


Posted the same lists five times as well. Also posted his bloody useless "Induct Now" list THREE TIMES on the Induction Criteria lists, a list which includes artists that aren't eligible. A large chunk of his list I agree with, but some of the selections are laughable... including the idea that anybody who made a record at some point in the 50's or 60's should be inducted.

I could do an Induct Now list if anyone's interested.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.8.11 @ 11:06am


You can certainly go ahead, Sam. I know I would read it and (very) likely comment on it.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 03.8.11 @ 12:10pm


BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)
03. The Yardbirds (5) - Eric Clapton (2) ; Jeff Beck (2) ; Jimmy Page (1)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
02. Seymour Stein (5)
02. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
02. Carole King (5)
02. Bruce Springsteen (5)
02. Billy Joel (5)

03. Paul Simon (4)
03. Elton John (4)
03. John Fogerty (4)
03. Bonnie Raitt (4)
03. Robbie Robertson (4)
03. Eddie Vedder (4)
03. Paul Shaffer (4)
03. Bono (4)

04. Little Richard (3)
04. Phil Spector (3)
04. Diana Ross (3)
04. Lou Reed (3)
04. Jann Wenner (3)
04. Steven Van Zandt (3)
04. ZZ Top (3)
04. Kid Rock (3)

05. Quincy Jones (2)
05. Ray Charles (2)
05. Stevie Wonder (2)
05. Brian Wilson (2)
05. Mick Jagger (2)
05. Darlene Love (2)
05. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
05. Chuck Berry (2)
05. Ben E. King (2)
05. B.B. King (2)
05. Eric Clapton (2)
05. Steven Tyler (2)
05. Sting (2)
05. Jeff Beck (2)
05. James Taylor (2)
05. Tom Petty (2)
05. Patti Smith (2)
05. Mick Jones (2)
05. Natalie Cole (2)
05. Paul McCartney (2)
05. Melissa Etheridge (2)
05. Justin Timberlake (2)
05. Alicia Keys (2)
05. The Edge (2)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN ONLY ONE INDUCTION SPEECH

Rob Zombie, Bette Midler, John Legend, Lloyd Price, John Densmore, Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Trey Anastasio, Billie Joe Armstrong, Jackson Browne, Garry Tallent, Max Weinberg, Ron Wood, Jimmy Page, Smokey Robinson, Flea, Eminem, Rosanne Cash, Ben Harper, Tom Hanks, Jerry Butler, Jay-Z, Zack de la Rocha, Velvet Revolver, Lars Ulrich, James Hetfield, Shirley Manson, Herbie Hancock, Rod Stewart, Robert Townsend, Jeff Lynne, OutKast, Dave Matthews, Tom Morello, Gwen Stefani, Marty Stuart, Jewel, Anthony Kiedis, Jakob Dylan, Sam Moore, Steve Cropper, Frankie Valli, N Sync, Marc Anthony, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Ricky Martin, Mary J. Blige, Moby, Lil Kim, John Mellencamp, Puff Daddy, Art Alexakis, Lauryn Hill, Jimmy Iovine, Chris Isaak, Jimmy Buffett, Sheryl Crow, Tony Rich, Shania Twain, John Popper, Shawn Colvin, Prince, Ricky Skaggs, Emmylou Harris, Mavis Staples, Madonna, David Byrne, Mariah Carey, Mickey Hart, Phil Lesh, Billy Corgan, Merry Clayton, Marianne Faithfull, Bob Krasnow, Arlo Guthrie, Harry Belafonte, Willie Nelson, Joe Perry, Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson, Deborah Chessler, Dave Pirner, Axl Rose, Bruce Hornsby, Etta James, k.d. lang, Boyz II Men, George Clinton, Dion, Billy Crystal, Jim Stewart, Lyle Lovett, Carlos Santana, Aaron Neville, Don Henley, Tracy Chapman, Chaka Khan, Bobby Brown, The Neville Brothers, Hank Ballard, Robert Cray, Paul Anka, Bob Crewe, Boz Scaggs, Graham Nash, Vernon Reid, Rickie Lee Jones, Pete Townshend, Tina Turner, Anita Baker, Bobby McFerrin, Al Green, Pete Seeger, Doc Pomus, Sam Phillips, Lester Sill, Peter Wolf, Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson, Paul Butterfield, Walter Yetnikoff, Ewart Abner, Julian Lennon, Sean Lennon, Steve Winwood, Hank Williams Jr., Roberta Flack, Herb Alpert, Norm N. Nite, Scott Muni, Jerry Lee Lewis, Jerry Wexler, Robert Palmer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 03.11.11 @ 05:54am


BANDS AS A WHOLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Hall & Oates
02. Ashford & Simpson
03. The Neville Brothers
04. Boyz II Men
05. N'Sync
06. OutKast
07. Velvet Revolver

Posted by Roy on Friday, 03.11.11 @ 06:26am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame: 1986-Present

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

2011
Alice Cooper
Neil Diamond
Dr. John
Darlene Love
Tom Waits
Leon Russell
Jac Holzman
Art Rupe

2010
ABBA
Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Hollies
The Stooges
David Geffen
Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry
Jesse Stone
Mort Shuman
Otis Blackwell

2009
Jeff Beck
Little Anthony and the Imperials
Metallica
RUN-DMC
Bobby Womack
Wanda Jackson
Bill Black
D.J. Fontana
Spooner Oldham

2008
John Mellencamp
Leonard Cohen
Madonna
The Dave Clark Five
The Ventures
Little Walter
Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff

2007
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Patti Smith
R.E.M.
The Ronettes
Van Halen

2006
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Miles Davis
Sex Pistols
Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss

2005
Buddy Guy
Percy Sledge
The O'Jays
The Pretenders
U2
Frank Barsalona
Seymour Stein

2004
Bob Seger
George Harrison
Jackson Browne
Prince
The Dells
Traffic
ZZ Top
Jann S. Wenner

2003
AC/DC
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Righteous Brothers
The Clash
The Police
Benny Benjamin
Floyd Cramer
Steve Douglas
Mo Ostin

2002
Brenda Lee
Gene Pitney
Isaac Hayes
Ramones
Talking Heads
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Chet Atkins
Jim Stewart

2001
Aerosmith
Michael Jackson
Paul Simon
Queen
Ritchie Valens
Solomon Burke
Steely Dan
The Flamingos
James Burton
Johnnie Johnson
Chris Blackwell

2000
Bonnie Raitt
Earth, Wind & Fire
Eric Clapton
James Taylor
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Billie Holiday
Nat "King" Cole
Earl Palmer
Hal Blaine
James Jamerson
King Curtis
Scotty Moore
Clive Davis

1999
Billy Joel
Bruce Springsteen
Curtis Mayfield
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield
Paul McCartney
The Staple Singers
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Charles Brown
George Martin

1998
Fleetwood Mac
Gene Vincent
Lloyd Price
Santana
The Eagles
The Mamas and the Papas
Jelly Roll Morton
Allen Toussaint

1997
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic
The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
The Jackson Five
Bill Monroe
Mahalia Jackson
Syd Nathan

1996
David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John
Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground
Pete Seeger
Tom Donahue

1995
Al Green
Frank Zappa
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
Neil Young
The Allman Brothers Band
The Orioles
Paul Ackerman

1994
Bob Marley
Duane Eddy
Elton John
John Lennon
Rod Stewart
The Animals
The Band
The Grateful Dead
Willie Dixon
Johnny Otis

1993
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Etta James
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Ruth Brown
Sly and the Family Stone
The Doors
Van Morrison
Dinah Washington
Dick Clark
Milt Gabler

1992
Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
Sam and Dave
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
The Yardbirds
Elmore James
Professor Longhair
Bill Graham
Doc Pomus
Leo Fender

1991
Ike and Tina Turner
Jimmy Reed
John Lee Hooker
LaVern Baker
The Byrds
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Howlin' Wolf
Nesuhi Ertegun
Dave Bartholomew
Ralph Bass

1990
Bobby Darin
Hank Ballard
Simon and Garfunkel
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters
The Who
Charlie Christian
Louis Armstrong
Ma Rainey
Gerry Goffin and Carole King
Holland-Dozier-Holland

1989
Dion
Otis Redding
Stevie Wonder
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Bessie Smith
The Ink Spots
The Soul Stirrers
Phil Spector

1988
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
The Supremes
Lead Belly
Les Paul
Woody Guthrie
Berry Gordy, Jr

1987
Aretha Franklin
B.B. King
Big Joe Turner
Bill Haley
Bo Diddley
Carl Perkins
Clyde McPhatter
Eddie Cochran
Jackie Wilson
Marvin Gaye
Muddy Waters
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Smokey Robinson
The Coasters
Hank Williams
Louis Jordan
T-Bone Walker
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Leiber
Mike Stoller
Jerry Wexler
Leonard Chess

1986
Buddy Holly
Chuck Berry
Elvis Presley
Fats Domino
James Brown
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
The Everly Brothers
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Yancey
Robert Johnson
John Hammond
Alan Freed
Sam Phillips

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

270 inductees in 26 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees

2010 - 13 inductees
2011 - 08 inductees

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-Present):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Beastie Boys, Donna Summer, War, KISS, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers, LL Cool J, Bon Jovi, Donovan

BANDS AS A WHOLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Hall & Oates
02. Ashford & Simpson
03. The Neville Brothers
04. Boyz II Men
05. N'Sync
06. OutKast
07. Velvet Revolver

BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)
03. The Yardbirds (5) - Eric Clapton (2) ; Jeff Beck (2) ; Jimmy Page (1)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
02. Seymour Stein (5)
02. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
02. Carole King (5)
02. Bruce Springsteen (5)
02. Billy Joel (5)

03. Paul Simon (4)
03. Elton John (4)
03. John Fogerty (4)
03. Bonnie Raitt (4)
03. Robbie Robertson (4)
03. Eddie Vedder (4)
03. Paul Shaffer (4)
03. Bono (4)

04. Little Richard (3)
04. Phil Spector (3)
04. Diana Ross (3)
04. Lou Reed (3)
04. Jann Wenner (3)
04. Steven Van Zandt (3)
04. ZZ Top (3)
04. Kid Rock (3)

05. Quincy Jones (2)
05. Ray Charles (2)
05. Stevie Wonder (2)
05. Brian Wilson (2)
05. Mick Jagger (2)
05. Darlene Love (2)
05. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
05. Chuck Berry (2)
05. Ben E. King (2)
05. B.B. King (2)
05. Eric Clapton (2)
05. Steven Tyler (2)
05. Sting (2)
05. Jeff Beck (2)
05. James Taylor (2)
05. Tom Petty (2)
05. Patti Smith (2)
05. Mick Jones (2)
05. Natalie Cole (2)
05. Paul McCartney (2)
05. Melissa Etheridge (2)
05. Justin Timberlake (2)
05. Alicia Keys (2)
05. The Edge (2)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN ONLY ONE INDUCTION SPEECH

Rob Zombie, Bette Midler, John Legend, Lloyd Price, John Densmore, Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Trey Anastasio, Billie Joe Armstrong, Jackson Browne, Garry Tallent, Max Weinberg, Ron Wood, Jimmy Page, Smokey Robinson, Flea, Eminem, Rosanne Cash, Ben Harper, Tom Hanks, Jerry Butler, Jay-Z, Zack de la Rocha, Velvet Revolver, Lars Ulrich, James Hetfield, Shirley Manson, Herbie Hancock, Rod Stewart, Robert Townsend, Ice-T, Jeff Lynne, OutKast, Dave Matthews, Tom Morello, Gwen Stefani, Marty Stuart, Jewel, Anthony Kiedis, Jakob Dylan, Sam Moore, Steve Cropper, Frankie Valli, N'Sync, Marc Anthony, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Ricky Martin, Mary J. Blige, Moby, Lil Kim, John Mellencamp, Puff Daddy, Art Alexakis, Lauryn Hill, Jimmy Iovine, Chris Isaak, Jimmy Buffett, Sheryl Crow, Tony Rich, Shania Twain, John Popper, Shawn Colvin, Prince, Ricky Skaggs, Emmylou Harris, Mavis Staples, Madonna, David Byrne, Mariah Carey, Mickey Hart, Phil Lesh, Billy Corgan, Merry Clayton, Marianne Faithfull, Bob Krasnow, Arlo Guthrie, Harry Belafonte, Willie Nelson, Joe Perry, Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson, Deborah Chessler, Dave Pirner, Axl Rose, Bruce Hornsby, Etta James, k.d. lang, Boyz II Men, George Clinton, Dion, Billy Crystal, Jim Stewart, Lyle Lovett, Carlos Santana, Aaron Neville, Don Henley, Tracy Chapman, Chaka Khan, Bobby Brown, The Neville Brothers, Hank Ballard, Robert Cray, Paul Anka, Bob Crewe, Boz Scaggs, Graham Nash, Vernon Reid, Rickie Lee Jones, Pete Townshend, Tina Turner, Anita Baker, Bobby McFerrin, Al Green, Pete Seeger, Doc Pomus, Sam Phillips, Lester Sill, Peter Wolf, Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson, Paul Butterfield, Walter Yetnikoff, Ewart Abner, Julian Lennon, Sean Lennon, Steve Winwood, Hank Williams Jr., Roberta Flack, Herb Alpert, Norm N. Nite, Scott Muni, Jerry Lee Lewis, Jerry Wexler, Robert Palmer

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 05:46am


Was there really any point in posting all of that again?

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 12:11pm


Considering all of that information is found on various pages on here (The Current Hall of Famers page and the Previously Considered pages for example), I'm saying no, there wasn't much of a point.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 03.16.11 @ 12:19pm


I think that everyone on the Immortals list was inducted into Rock Hall Revisited/Projected except for Dr. Dre, who was inducted as a Non-Performer regardless.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 03.19.11 @ 10:34am


ARTISTS WHO FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES WHO COMPLAIN, UPDATED!:

01. The Miracles
02. Chubby Checker
03. The Monkees
04. Jan and Dean

05. Mary Wells
06. Dionne Warwick
07. Carole King
08. Joan Baez
09. Judy Collins
10. Laura Nyro
11. Tina Turner
12. Linda Ronstadt
13. Carly Simon

14. Yes
15. Kiss
16. Rush
17. Heart
18. Chicago
19. The Cars
20. Hall & Oates
21. Cheap Trick
22. Deep Purple
23. Jethro Tull
24. King Crimson
25. The Moody Blues
26. The Doobie Brothers
27. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
28. Peter, Paul and Mary
29. The Kingston Trio
30. The Marvelettes
31. The Chiffons

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.3.11 @ 23:59pm


Roy, where did you get that list from?

Posted by Brian on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 00:08am


I pulled it out of my ass based on who gets talked about the most in the media for not being in the Rock Hall. It's a very accurate list.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 00:17am


I dunno Roy, I feel like I've heard people complaining about the lack of KISS and Rush WAY more than I have of anybody from #4-13 on your list. I mean, the Rush fanboys/girls are EVERYWHERE.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 03:48am


I'm skeptical, too. When I scroll through comments on Rock Hall oriented articles I see the vocal Rush and KISS fans whining the most, then I hear people who don't want to accept Madonna, ABBA or hip hop/rap acts being involved (who are usually strongly tied to the first group), then I hear supporters of prog and mullet rock acts complaining in about equal numbers (which covers a good chunk of Roy's list), then I hear people who are irritated that Cleavland hasn't even scratched the surface on the 80's (a group which I'll admit to being part of).

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 04:35am


Yeah, it really gets annoying when fans of various excluded acts start complaining, they start making statements like these: "WTF is Leonard Cohen doing in the Hall but not Rush," "I've never even heard of Darlene Love and she is in the Hall but Todd Rundgren isn't, Uncle Todd's been working hard for the last 40 years," "Why is ABBA in the Hall and not Heart. What a joke," "Barbra Streisand's sold a gazillion records and she's not in the Hall but the Sex Pistols are," "Why is rap crap like Grandmaster Trash (oops I mean Flash) in the Hall but not real, pure and fresh music like Styx?" Blah-blah-blah.

The worst part is these fans ALWAYS make it sound as if they are the first person to recognize their respective pet project's omission. What's possibly even worse is that these so-called fans are really no better than the Hall they love to rally against. They would just as quickly dismiss deserving acts in favor of their pet projects. Hypocrites.

(I'm not saying Rush, Todd Rundgren, etc aren't deserving, I'm just using them as examples).

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 06:08am


Exactly. It may surprise some people around here, but I'm actually a big Rush fan and would love to see them inducted someday, but I realize that they have a pretty long line ahead of them, even within their own genre.

My two favorite uninducted acts are probably Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds and Bauhaus, both of whom have a solid case to be made, but both of whom I recognize have a long wait ahead. Just because my favorites aren't in doesn't mean that Madonna (the biggest female act of the Rock and Roll era), Grandmaster Flash, ABBA or John Mellencamp don't deserve their inductions.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 06:27am


My favorite acts not currently in the Hall are probably the Zombies, Procol Harum and the Pogues. I've never been much of a Rush fan (I like a few of their songs) but if they do ever get into the Hall of Fame I won't complain that the Pogues for example aren't in and Rush is.

Yes, there might be some questionable inductees into the Hall, but an institution like this is bound to be flawed. If an act somebody doesn't like gets in, people really need to learn to just get over it, seriously.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 07:31am


I think anyone with half a brain can recognize that the problems with the Hall revolve around who they haven't inducted rather than who they have. Sure, there have been some (only a few) inductions I'm not sure about, but mostly they've got it right as far as that's concerned.

Some of the responses to one article concerning the past induction went like:

"Jethro Yull, The Moody Blues, Steve Cropper, Booker T. Jones, Ted Nugent, Grand Funk Railroad, Steve Miller, the list is long. Then you consider the people who ARE in that have nothing to do with Rock music" Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, Miles Davis, etc. They never were involved in Rock. the worst inclusion is The Velvet Underground: a band that never had any hits, and was never anything more than a regional band at its zenith. The entire operation is a joke indeed!"

"1 The Guess Who
2 Chicago
3 The Moody Blues
4 Jethro Tull
5 Dire Straits
6 Johnny Rivers
7 Linda Ronstadt
8 KISS
9 Joan Jett
10 Grand Funk Railroad

You worry about such marginal acts as Joy Division and Depeche Mode when these ten have not made it in yet? Learn a little about rock history..."

"The biggest oversight - Ringo Starr - can we get this done while he's still alive!!"

"There is not a single musician on the board that votes."

I'm sure you can figure out which bits are exhibits as to why John Q. Public should NOT have a say.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 18:20pm


whoever said that VU was the worst induction is an absolute tosspot who shouldn't be talking about this subject.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 04.5.11 @ 11:48am


GFW - I totally agree!

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 04.5.11 @ 12:34pm


Good God Sam, where did you find such comments??!! Some people seriously crawled out from under the Great Boulder of Ignorance. Yet another example why letting fans vote on who gets in/who doesn't would do more harm than good.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 04.5.11 @ 17:23pm


A 2012 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame To Make Everyone Happy

The Miracles
The Monkees
Jan and Dean
Chubby Checker
Chicago
Deep Purple
The Moody Blues
Kiss
Rush
Guns N' Roses

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 07:55am


Ha! Great post Roy, made me smile.

Unfortunately though, such a class wouldn't please everybody. I can assure you there would be hordes of adults behaving like small children whining and complaining, I can just hear the following mindless, trolling drivel: "KISS is the worst band of all time, the only place they should go to is to jail," "Rush is a third rate prog band that went out of style very early and today only old, stale navel gazers like them," "the Moody Blues aren't cool, kids today don't listen to them," "Guns 'n Roses suck and Axl is a prick," "the Monkees are Pre-Fab Four, they didn't play their own instruments or write their own songs and are cheesy and outdated." Blah-blah-blah.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 08:21am


"Good God Sam, where did you find such comments??!!"

I don't remember. You know how all these sites discuss the inductions and nominations, and offer up a snubs queue? Well, those came from the comments section of one of them. For some reason I saved those comments, and eventually decided to embarass the wankers by sharing them with you.

I think you could come up with a perfect class and there'd still be complaints. I actually like the list Roy's proposed. Just a couple of things:

1. They've done 5 a year for awhile now, and it's not changing anytime soon unfortunately.

2. The list is too one-sided. A Motown group, two sixties acts, and the rest all "Classic Rock" groups. More variety is needed.

-I'd drop Chubby Checker for Link Wray. Just my opinion now.
-I'd replace Jan & Dean with Dick Dale.

3. I realize I haven't made a more diverse list, but I think it's satisfactory enough for now.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:41pm


Music in 100 years, what will those people of the future think.
Well, Im confident that they will at least know the Beatles. Lets face it, they single handedly legitimized Rock and Roll as an art form.

Posted by Fordman on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 18:53pm


Lipps, Inc.
Anita Ward
Jesus Jones
M.A.R.R.S
Jon Secada

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 18:40pm


MALE ARTISTS

Roy Milton
Jewel Akens
Robert John
Leo Sayer
Gary Wright
Bill Conti
John Williams
Jan Hammer
Murray Head
Marc Cohn
Eddie Fisher
Stephen Bishop
Jesus Jones
Jon Secada

FEMALE ARTISTS

Georgia Gibbs
Anita Ward
Marcia Griffiths
Cathy Dennis
Karyn White
Lisa Stansfield
Jane Child

GROUPS

Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans
The Andrews Sisters
The McGuire Sisters
The DeFranco Family
Manhattan Transfer
The Sylvers
The Intruders
The Busboys
The American Breed
General Public
Breathe
Johnny Hates Jazz
Bell Biv Devoe
Lipps, Inc.
M.A.R.R.S
Ottawan

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 18:56pm


Just to let you all know, I saw a special Rolling Stone magazine at the supermarket yesterday that focuses on the 100 Greatest Artists. I looked inside and, sure enough, it has been updated. Jay Z was now on the list with a blurb from Vampire Weekend's Ezra Koening. Tom Petty was also now on the list, Carl Perkins fell a bit, and Talking Heads were #100 (with Lee "Scratch" Perry nowhere to be found).

That's all I noticed in a quick glance before paying for my groceries and I can't for the life of me find the new version of this list on line, but I'm sure it'll get posted here soon enough.

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 23:51pm


Sam -

If you are going to update Roy's list I would also add Kraftwerk and an underground act from the 80's like Joy Division/New Order, Sonic Youth, Depeche Mode, etc.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 04.17.11 @ 00:22am


... Casper please tell me you're joking.
Talking heads below Jay Z? I've got nothing against Jay Z, he's a good rapper but he's not better than Talking Heads!

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 04.17.11 @ 08:07am


I am not joking. It's totally on newstands around the country right where you buy your groceries. I get the feeling Wenner arbitrarily moved some artists around as it looked like Roxy Music wasn't on the list, etc. Basically, more challenging acts were taken off to suit more meat and potatoes ones or whatever.

Nothing wrong with Jay Z being on the list, but you know they just randomly inserted him wherever. They should've just done an all new poll.

Posted by Casper on Sunday, 04.17.11 @ 12:35pm


Top Five is completely unchanged:

http://newsfuzion.com/2011/04/18/beatles-1-on-rolling-stone-magazines-top-100-artists-list/

Posted by Casper on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 13:27pm


And in case you want to go to Rolling Stone's website, they've updated the intro, but they're using the old Top 100 list.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231

Posted by Casper on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 13:29pm


Here is Rolling Stone's list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time from a "special collectors edition" magazine issued in Spring, 2011. This list is clearly based on the Immortals list from 2004, with a few additions and deletions.

1. The Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. Elvis Presley
4. The Rolling Stones
5. Chuck Berry
6. Jimi Hendrix
7. James Brown
8. Little Richard
9. Aretha Franklin
10. Ray Charles
11. Bob Marley
12. The Beach Boys
13. Buddy Holly
14. Led Zeppelin
15. Stevie Wonder
16. Sam Cooke
17. Muddy Watters
18. Marvin Gaye
19. The Velvet Underground
20. Bo Diddley
21. Otis Redding
22. U2
23. Bruce Springsteen
24. Jerry Lee Lewis
25. Fats Domino
26. The Ramones
27. Prince
28. The Clash
29. The Who
30. Nirvana
31. Johnny Cash
32. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
33. The Everly Brothers
34. Neil Young
35. Michael Jackson
36. Madonna
37. Roy Orbison
38. John Lennon
39. David Bowie
40. Simon and Garfunkel
41. The Doors
42. Van Morrison
43. Sly and the Family Stone
44. Public Enemy
45. The Byrds
46. Janis Joplin
47. Patti Smith
48. Run-DMC
49. Elton John
50. The Band
51. Pink Floyd
52. Queen
53. The Allman Brothers Band
54. Howlin' Wolf
55. Eric Clapton
56. Dr. Dre
57. Grateful Dead
58. Parliament/Funkadelic
59. Aerosmith
60. Sex Pistols
61. Metallica
62. Joni Mitchell
63. Tina Turner
64. Phil Spector
65. The Kinks
66. Al Green
67. Cream
68. The Temptations
69. Jackie Wilson
70. The Police
71. Frank Zappa
72. AC/DC
73. Radiohead
74. Hank Williams
75. The Eagles
76. The Shirelles
77. Beastie Boys
78. The Stooges
79. The Four Tops
80. Elvis Costello
81. The Drifters
82. Creedance Clearwater Revival
83. Eminem
84. James Taylor
85. Black Sabbath
86. Tupac Shakur
87. Gram Parsons
88. Jay-Z
89. The Yardbirds
90. Carlos Santana
91. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
92. Guns N' Roses
93. Booker T. and the MG's
94. Nine Inch Nails
95. Lynyrd Skynyrd
96. Diana Ross and the Supremes
97. R.E.M.
98. Curtis Mayfield
99. Carl Perkins
100. Talking Heads

Artists listed in 2011 that weren't there in 2004: Pink Floyd, Queen, Metallica, CCR, Jay-Z, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, R.E.M. and Talking Heads.

Artists that fell off the new list that were there in 2004: Louis Jordan (59), Etta James (62), N.W.A. (83), Miles Davis (88), Ricky Nelson (91), Martha and the Vandellas (96), Roxy Music (98) and Lee "Scratch" Perry (100).

Other notable moves: Carl Perkins dropped 30 spots in the list from 69 to 99. Nirvana slipped from 27 to 30. Other than that, there was very little movement in the last seven years.

It's odd that there was such little movement from still-active artists like Bruce Springsteen (5 terrific albums since the first list), Radiohead, Eminem, Guns N' Roses and U2. It seems evident that Rolling Stone has just repackaged their old list with a few changes to correct some obvious oversights without actually conducting another poll.

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 16:42pm


From this new Rolling Stone list, here are the artists not YET in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: Nirvana (30), Public Enemy (44), Dr. Dre (56), Radiohead (73), Beastie Boys (77), Eminem (83), Tupac (86), Gram Parsons (87), Jay-Z (88), Guns N' Roses (92), and Nine Inch Nails (94).

Only Beastie Boys and Gram Parsons are currently eligible and haven't been inducted. Guns N' Roses becomes eligible this year for the first time.

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 16:54pm


I have to say that this is list is much better then the previous one. I think they added almost all of the biggest omissions that we have all complained about. The only two that I am somewhat disappointed to see drop off is Miles Davis and N.W.A.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 16:55pm


I completely agree with Gassman, very pleased to see pretty much all the new deserving names added, especially Pink Floyd and CCR.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 17:01pm


Dr Dre's too high, but it's nice to see the new names added.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 17:13pm


where the hell is kiss and rush? are they deserving to be on this list or are they not?

Posted by chris on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 17:36pm


No Pearl Jam? One of THE most influential bands of the past 20 years! Not even at 100?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 18:23pm


where the hell is kiss and rush? are they deserving to be on this list or are they not?

Posted by chris on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 17:36pm


I so hope that this is just one of the regular posters goofing around and that there's not really someone out there who believes that Kiss or Rush belong in this sort of elite company.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 18:44pm


Led Zeppelin(14) is ranked way too far above The Who(29) who is ranked way to far above The Kinks(65)

Joni Mitchell(62) and The Allman Brothers Band(53) should be in the top 30.

Diana Ross and the Supremes all the way up at 96 is a bit shocking......

Posted by classicrocker on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 19:58pm


I guess I'll give my take on this:

First, bravo to Rolling Stone for giving Pink Floyd, Beasties, Tom Petty, Metallica, CCR and others their due. They should've gotten it the first time around, but better late than never.

I like GNR, but how did they stay on the list while Roxy Music, N.W.A., Lee Perry, Ricky Nelson and Miles F'ing Davis didn't?

And like Cheesecrop said: No Pearl Jam is a big no-no. And Nirvana is about 20-30 slots too high.

Posted by Jim on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 20:07pm


Heh, weird how I never noticed that R.E.M. were missing from the original list. Almost as head scratching as Pink Floyd not being there initially.

Judging by how high The Floyd was placed, I think the original snub was NOT intentional. The Immortals list only polled 55 people in the record industry, so people like The Edge or Bono or those that had their careers very early on 50s/60s or were heavily inspired by artists from those first two decades could rightfully not include Pink Floyd since they weren't influenced by them. Had they used a better sample size (at least a few hundred), I'm sure a few of the more troubling omissions would have been included.

Jim, Beasties were included on the original list at #77, so nothing new there.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 21:44pm


The Miracles held steady, in the same spot as before (#32), but STILL NOT INDUCTED as of 2011.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 00:09am


...and The Miracles are STILL ranked above numerous RRHOF INDUCTEES such as The Everly Bros, Madonna, David Bowie, the Doors, The Eagles, The Police, The Stooges, etc,etc,etc, (including ALL other Motown groups)...yet STILL not inducted themselves.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 00:17am


As sated before, it looks like the Rock Hall considered The Miracles' work when inducting Smokey Robinson 9as mentioned, his bio at the Rock Hall site is mostly about The Miracles)- because surely the Hall would not vote in Smokey based on his solo output alone. Not saying it's right, but it may be an explanation.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 00:45am


Here is the list of voters, since Rolling Stone appears to have taken down the list from their website:
Hal Blaine, Nathan Brackett, Jackson Browne, Cliff Burnstein, Chuck D, Anthony DeCurtis, Neil Diamond, Bo Diddley, Dr. John, The Edge, Jason Fine, Bill Flanagan, David Fricke, Gil Friesen, Art Garfunkel, David Geffen, Billy Gibbons, Mikal Gilmore, Albert Hammond Jr., James Henke, Don Henley, Robert Hilburn, Chrissie Hynde, Don Ienner, Lenny Kaye, Jon Landau, Joe Levy, Kurt Loder, Greil Marcus, Joe McEwen, Moby, Doug Morris, Ric Ocasek, Joe Perry, Antonio "L.A." Reid, Keith Richards, Smokey Robinson, Rick Rubin, Carlos Santana, Mike Shinoda, Slash, Bruce Springsteen, Seymour Stein, Stephen Stills, Quentin Tarantino, Ahmir Thompson, Pete Townshend, Steven Van Zandt, Butch Vig, Bob Weir, Jann S. Wenner, Jerry Wexler, Lucinda Williams, Peter Wolf, Adam Yauch

In the new issue, there is no mention of the voting process or Ernst & Young being involved anymore.

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 09:10am


The initial list of voters was much larger than that. That's the list that appears in the new edition? Thanks for posting the info, BTW. :)

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 11:54am


I should say, I thought it was larger than that. For instance, the people who wrote the pieces on the Immortals- weren't they part of the voting process? Not all are mentioned in that list.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 12:01pm


The voter list is the same for 2011 as it was in 2004.

replay.waybackmachine.org/20090412055304/http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/7235503/the_voters

Posted by Future Rock Legends on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 12:12pm


Top 20's virtually unchanged which is fine, though at this point The VU and Zeppelin would have to move up a couple of spots.

20-30 unchanged except that Nirvana fell 3 spots. If anything you'd have to have them higher at this point.

Obviously the biggest improvement is Pink Floyd and Queen making the list.

The Metallica omission on the original list was a surprise to me, but their career was at it's low point when the original was made. Their nice little comeback since probably helped.

I would think that Radiohead would have to be higher at this point; since the original list came out they came out with In Rainbows, which was pretty good and was quite a force in terms of the downloading revolution. I haven't heard the new album but it's gotten tremendous praise thus far. R.E.M. is on the new one, which is a huge improvement.

Still having no Pearl Jam is a huge surprise; I'm not a major fan, but... I thought Roxy Music deserved to be a bit higher on the last list, and now they don't even make it in. Someone tell me, have they REALLY become that irrelevant since 2004?

Still some work to be done, but I'd say it's an improvement.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 18:16pm


WHERE IS RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, THEY HAD BEST ALBUMS AND SINGLES YEAR AFTER YEAR. THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST GUITARISTS AND BASSISTS OF ALL TIME.

Posted by Michael on Sunday, 05.1.11 @ 22:12pm


I don't agree that Jerry Lee Lewis is more important than The Who, they have him beat by sales, quality of work, innovation and influence.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 06.1.11 @ 11:13am


Also, why the hell is Madonna so high? How is she more important than bowie?

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 06.1.11 @ 11:14am




http://www.nme.com/ratemy/216512/greatest-singers-of-all-time

NME'S GREATEST SINGERS OF ALL TIME

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 08:57am

Karen Carpenter is not even in that list but Katy Perry and Lady Gaga?

Posted by akeem on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 09:59am


where the hell are the pixies???

Posted by daigle on Monday, 06.6.11 @ 22:09pm


no mark knopfler and dire straits??????

Posted by vlp on Wednesday, 06.8.11 @ 12:26pm



Guns N Roses should definately be in the top 10.and definately higher than U2 and Nirvana,they put out alot of awesome music.

Posted by mike on Friday, 06.10.11 @ 20:38pm


Nirvana SUCKS and should not be on this list

Posted by anon on Saturday, 06.18.11 @ 13:23pm


Mike, if they kept up the quality of Appetite For Desturction then I might agree with you, but after UYI 1 and 2 they turned mediocre.

Anon: Who would you put in their place?

Also wh ythe hell is Queen so low, they are certainly more remarkable than say, Patti Smith or Jerry Lee Lewis.

Posted by GFw on Saturday, 06.18.11 @ 13:55pm


Roy Milton * Jewel Akens * Robert John * Leo Sayer * Gary Wright * Bill Conti * John Williams * Jan Hammer * Murray Head * Marc Cohn * Eddie Fisher * Stephen Bishop * Jesus Jones * Jon Secada * Georgia Gibbs * Anita Ward * Vicki Sue Robinson * Cheryl Lynn * Marcia Griffiths * Cathy Dennis * Karyn White * Lisa Stansfield * Jane Child * Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans * The Andrews Sisters * The McGuire Sisters * The DeFranco Family * Manhattan Transfer * The Sylvers * The Intruders * The Busboys * The American Breed * General Public * Breathe * Johnny Hates Jazz * Bell Biv Devoe * Lipps, Inc. * M.A.R.R.S * Ottawan * Will To Power * When In Rome * The Pursuit of Happiness * Damn Yankees

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.11.11 @ 22:10pm


http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com

The Progressive Rock Hall of Fame

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 22:52pm


Great list.

Now, it is time to consider Steve Morse for the Hall of Fame. His work in the Dregs and his Trio produced work that still amazes the soul.

Hendrix would agree: Steve is ready and deserves the nomination for the Hall.

Posted by hazmat30307 on Thursday, 07.14.11 @ 02:18am


Inductees in the main performers category who never charted on the Billboard 200 Albums chart:

Lavern Baker
Hank Ballard
Ruth Brown
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
The Flamingos
Little Willie John
Darlene Love
Clyde McPhatter
Carl Perkins
Lloyd Price
Big Joe Turner

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.15.11 @ 22:09pm


The 27 Club / The Club of 27

01. Robert Johnson
02. Brian Jones
03. Jimi Hendrix
04. Janis Joplin
05. Jim Morrison
06. Kurt Cobain
07. Amy Winehouse

I was born like this, I had no choice
I was born with the gift of a golden voice
And twenty-seven angels from the Great Beyond
They tied me to this table right here
In the Tower of Song

-Leonard Cohen

The only biblical significance regarding the number 27 is that there are 27 books in the New Testament. I've always taken it as a "trinity of trinities" (3 X 3 X 3), with whatever connotations one cares to ascribe.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07.23.11 @ 20:23pm


Roy Milton * Jewel Akens * Robert John * Leo Sayer * Gary Wright * Bill Conti * John Williams * Jan Hammer * Murray Head * Marc Cohn * Nick Gilder * Eddie Fisher * Stephen Bishop * Jesus Jones * Jon Secada * Georgia Gibbs * Anita Ward * Vicki Sue Robinson * Nicollette Larson * Yvonne Elliman * Cheryl Lynn * Marcia Griffiths * Cathy Dennis * Karyn White * Lisa Stansfield * Jane Child * Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans * The Andrews Sisters * The McGuire Sisters * The DeFranco Family * Manhattan Transfer * The Sylvers * The Intruders * The Busboys * The American Breed * General Public * Breathe * Johnny Hates Jazz * Bell Biv Devoe * Lipps, Inc. * M.A.R.R.S * Ottawan * Will To Power * When In Rome * The Pursuit of Happiness * Damn Yankees

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.25.11 @ 10:15am


...
What does that list of names have to do with anything?

Posted by GFW on Monday, 07.25.11 @ 11:18am


I THINK that's a list of artists who don't have pages that Roy thinks should have pages, not that any of those artists have much to do with immortality.

Posted by Sean on Monday, 07.25.11 @ 11:51am


Roy Milton * Jewel Akens * Robert John * Leo Sayer * Gary Wright * Bill Conti * John Williams * Jan Hammer * Murray Head * Marc Cohn * Nick Gilder * Eddie Fisher * Stephen Bishop * Jesus Jones * Jon Secada * Georgia Gibbs * Anita Ward * Vicki Sue Robinson * Nicollette Larson * Yvonne Elliman * Cheryl Lynn * Marcia Griffiths * Cathy Dennis * Karyn White * Lisa Stansfield * Jane Child * Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans * The Andrews Sisters * The McGuire Sisters * The DeFranco Family * Manhattan Transfer * The Sylvers * The Intruders * The Busboys * The American Breed * General Public * Breathe * Johnny Hates Jazz * Bell Biv Devoe * Lipps, Inc. * M.A.R.R.S * Ottawan * Will To Power * When In Rome * The Pursuit of Happiness * Damn Yankees * The Proclaimers

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.25.11 @ 13:37pm


When are you going to get Suzi Quatro in here!!

Not only is she known world wide as the Queen of rock but she has influenced many, the likes of which include Joan Jett (and the blackhearts, and even Chrissie Hynde of the pretenders)
She has even had songs written about her!!

She has been going for over 40 years in the business, and still going strong even now at 61.

If anybody deserves the right to be in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame it is American born Suzie Quatro!!!!

Posted by maddie on Friday, 08.5.11 @ 12:29pm


Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.10.11 @ 04:22am


Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.11.11 @ 06:17am


I am going through Joel Whitburn's Billboard 200 Albums book and the Billboard 100 Singles book and getting the names of all the artists who charted in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s who don't have pages on Future Rock Legends yet, and emailing them to Future Rock Legends to be added once and for all, and you will never hear from me again on this topic. This site will be complete then.

In the meantime...

Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.13.11 @ 21:06pm


Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins *Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.18.11 @ 04:24am



Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.20.11 @ 07:08am


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Chandler

GENE CHANDLER (The Duke of Earl) is now 74 years old.He has had over 30 chart hits, is a Grammy Hall of Fame Inductee , and winner of the Rhythm & Blues Foundation's Pioneer Award.... He's been performing for over 50 years...Singer, Songwriter,Producer,and Record Executive...and winner of the National Association of Television and Radio Announcers Producer of the Year Award.And,I might add, can still out-performs artists decades younger, even today. I know. I've seen him ....several times.One of the leading exponents of The Chicago Sound in the late '50s 60's,One of the few artists who can boast having hits during the DOO-WOP,R&B, SOUL, and DISCO Eras, Gene Chandler,like his fellow Chicagoans , JERRY BUTLER, THE IMPRESSIONS, CURTIS MAYFIELD, AND THE DELLS, deserves induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.29.11 @ 16:43pm


Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale * The Oak Ridge Boys * Boys Don't Cry * Bow Wow Wow * The Blow Monkeys * Tommy Tutone * Bad English * Timbuk 3 * Nu Shooz * Hoyt Axton * Pia Zadora * Alphaville * Eddy Arnold

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.29.11 @ 19:22pm


Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale * The Oak Ridge Boys * Boys Don't Cry * Bow Wow Wow * The Blow Monkeys * Tommy Tutone * Bad English * Nu Shooz * Hoyt Axton * Pia Zadora * Alphaville * Eddy Arnold * Paul Hardcastle * Julian Cope * Lady Pank * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Baz Luhrmann * Oleta Adams * Glenn Gould * Cole Porter * Irving Berlin * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Ya Kid K * Hi Tek 3 * Technotronic * Billy Crystal * Eddie Murphy * Bruce Willis * Jack Wagner * Rodney Dangerfield * Sunscreem * Billie Myers

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.2.11 @ 05:48am


Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale * The Oak Ridge Boys * Boys Don't Cry * Bow Wow Wow * The Blow Monkeys * Tommy Tutone * Bad English * Nu Shooz * Hoyt Axton * Pia Zadora * Alphaville * Eddy Arnold * Paul Hardcastle * Julian Cope * Lady Pank * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Baz Luhrmann * Oleta Adams * Glenn Gould * Cole Porter * Irving Berlin * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Ya Kid K * Hi Tek 3 * Technotronic * Billy Crystal * Eddie Murphy * Bruce Willis * Jack Wagner * Rodney Dangerfield * Sunscreem * Billie Myers * Shannon * The Mary Jane Girls * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Evelyn "Champagne" King

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.4.11 @ 23:00pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME TWICE IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - Stephen Stills (Buffalo Springfield; Crosby, Stills and Nash)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone
06. 2011 - Leon Russell

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1987 - Hank Williams
02. 1987 - B.B. King
03. 1992 - Jimi Hendrix (The Jimi Hendrix Experience)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - The Everly Brothers
02. 1998 - Carlos Santana (Santana)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE KENNEDY CENTER HONOR IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Ray Charles
02. 2011 - Neil Diamond

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - The Bee Gees

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE NAACP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1997 - George Clinton (Parliament-Funkadelic)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Rush

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - ABBA

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Jackie DeShannon

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO CANADA'S WALK OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2005 - Paul Anka

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2004 - The Dells

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2003 - Lionel Richie (The Commodores)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE JUNO/CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE ORDER OF CANADA IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1991 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE NATIONAL ORDER OF QUEBEC IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 2010 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.7.11 @ 20:38pm



I'm glad that I've found this www.futurerocklegends.com website. I'm so surprised by your way of thinking and writing. Have you thought about writing a book?

Posted by Assistance on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 20:50pm


Aretha above Ray Charles and Sam Cooke Stevie and Marvin above the miracles wow

Posted by keith on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 11:44am


The 2011 list shows very little creativity. The reason is that it's just the same people with the same hackneyed way of looking at music. And some of the inclusions stink of back room politics when you realize who the voters are. Patti Smith at 47 is ridiculous. (Ah to be a critic's darling with friends in high places). Good to see that Stein got the Talking Heads right under the gun. And Elvis Costello's reputation always seems to exceed his musical output. Or maybe it's his nerdy glasses. Peace, love and understanding.

Posted by astrodog on Friday, 10.7.11 @ 23:56pm


And once again rolling stone overrates soul.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.8.11 @ 08:31am


You can always see certain patterns in how Rolling Stone views music. They favor the mid 50s rock acts, but ignore the early 60s pre-Beatles acts. They hate prog (Pink Floyd got in after an avalanche of criticism of the 2004 list). They hate new wave but like "punk". (Their view of the whole punk era is outmoded, a holdover from the early 90s.) They don't like glam and 70s arena rock. (What did Fleetwood Mac ever do to them?). They favor bands on racial/ethnic lines.

I view a Top 100 as a very dumb idea. They have no set criteria beyond the subjective views of their panelists. (Example: Tina Turner (co)-wrote maybe one song her entire career and any historcal significance she has is based on Ike Turner, yet Tina is listed individually). The limitation on 100 is too small. (Are Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers really better than the Cars, for example?). And they are mixing two many genres together. Obviously lists are designed to generate discussion/sales, but this one could be critiqued all day.

Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 10.8.11 @ 09:09am


Yeah. They see prog as way too arty farty and go on about how it's solos are needlesly long but it loves the grateful dead who was just as guilty of this. I mean, I know sam cooke was a great singer but is he really amogn the top 20 acts of all time. I also acknowledge that Jerry lee lewis was important in the survival of rock and roll during it's birth but is he really better than David bowie or the Who? Jerry had 3 years of good material, Bowie had at least 14 and The Who 15.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.8.11 @ 13:09pm


I'm a rock and roll guy and all but the biggest snub on the immortals list is definitely Frank Sinatra. Also,I'm surprised Billie Holiday didn't factor in somewhere seeing as how revered she is. (These two should definitely count since Muddy Waters, who is on the list, was around the same time as them).

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 10.9.11 @ 02:18am


Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale * The Oak Ridge Boys * Boys Don't Cry * Bow Wow Wow * The Blow Monkeys * Tommy Tutone * Bad English * Nu Shooz * Hoyt Axton * Pia Zadora * Alphaville * Eddy Arnold * Paul Hardcastle * Julian Cope * Lady Pank * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Baz Luhrmann * Oleta Adams * Glenn Gould * Cole Porter * Irving Berlin * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Ya Kid K * Hi Tek 3 * Technotronic * Billy Crystal * Eddie Murphy * Bruce Willis * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Rodney Dangerfield * Sunscreem * Billie Myers * Shannon * The Mary Jane Girls * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Stephanie Mills * The Velvelettes * Shep & The Limelights * The Persuaders * Breakfast Club * John Parr

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.16.11 @ 21:37pm


u’re just like Bruce Willis you were big in the 80s and now your old slot is being filled by Ashton Kutche

Posted by Uth Video on Wednesday, 10.19.11 @ 07:18am


I love Zappa, enjoy some madona but neither belongs on this list. I love Marley & the Rollings Stones but no way is either more of an immortal than the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys sometimes even beat out the Beatles for greatest album on some lists..

U2, Nirvana, Springsteen also too high. Cash should be higher. Yes I give Nirvana ALOT of credit but REM almost at the bottom?

Prince higher than the Clash???? higher than the Doors & the Byrds? wtf?

here is the lsit with a few revisions but maybe not enough.

Elvis Presley

The Beatles

Bob Dylan

The Beach Boys

The Rolling Stones

Chuck Berry

Jimi Hendrix

James Brown

Little Richard

Aretha Franklin

Ray Charles

Bob Marley

Buddy Holly

Led Zeppelin

Stevie Wonder

Sam Cooke

Muddy Watters

Marvin Gaye

The Velvet Underground

Bo Diddley

Otis Redding

Jerry Lee Lewis

Johnny Cash
Fats Domino

The Ramones


The Clash

The Who

Simon and Garfunkel

The Byrds

The Doors

Sly and the Family Stone

Janis Joplin

Van Morrison

U2

Bruce Springsteen

Prince
Nirvana (2013)


Smokey Robinson and the Miracles

The Everly Brothers

Neil Young

Michael Jackson

Roy Orbison

John Lennon

David Bowie

Simon and Garfunkel

The Doors

Van Morrison

Sly and the Family Stone

Public Enemy (2012)
Patti Smith

Run-DMC

Elton John

The Band

Pink Floyd

Queen

The Allman Brothers Band

Howlin' Wolf

Eric Clapton

Dr. Dre (2017)

Grateful Dead

Parliament/Funkadelic

Aerosmith

Sex Pistols

Metallica

Joni Mitchell

Tina Turner

Phil Spector

The Kinks

Al Green

Cream

The Temptations

Jackie Wilson

The Police

AC/DC

Radiohead (2017)

Hank Williams

The Eagles

The Shirelles

Beastie Boys (2007)

The Stooges

The Four Tops

Elvis Costello

The Drifters

Creedance Clearwater Revival

Eminem (2021)

James Taylor

Black Sabbath

Tupac Shakur (2016)
Gram Parsons (1992)
Jay-Z (2020)

The Yardbirds

Carlos Santana

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Guns N' Roses (2011)
Booker T. and the MG's
Nine Inch Nails (2014)

Lynyrd Skynyrd

Diana Ross and the Supremes

R.E.M.

Curtis Mayfield

Carl Perkins

Talking Heads

Posted by lou on Saturday, 10.22.11 @ 21:18pm


PS i

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I didnt fully edit correctly. if you see groups listed twice in my post version of the 2011 RS 100 greatest artist et al, the higher position is the correct one. please look at the description I had along with it.

thx
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Posted by lou on Saturday, 10.22.11 @ 21:22pm


Just one question: Where on earth you will put this only living legend: SIR CLIFF RICHARD?!?

Is it because he's not 'popular' in the US? Based on what is to be on your Hall of Fame? He is HUGE in UK and the rest of the world, God only knows, why not in the US. IF the boys (later so-called The Beatles) never sneaked in behind stage where Sir Cliff's band (The Drifters by the time) performed in their earlier years, there will never be Beatles! Sir Cliff started before ALL of them (and where ARE they NOW???) - even if he followed Elvis - he always (until we get so bored (!) - we consider he's big on and by his own, apart that he started it because he ever heard "Heartbreak Hotel"!), tributes and thanking it to the King (who will deny it?! not even MJ, IMO) of Rock N Roll!

Wake up, guys! Thank you!

Posted by Marie Louise Hanadi on Monday, 11.7.11 @ 22:46pm


In everything I've read about The Beatles (and it is a lot) never once have any of them mentioned CLiff as an influence.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 11.8.11 @ 11:41am



First established in 2000, the sidemen category "honors those musicians who have spent their careers out of the spotlight, performing as backup musicians for major artists on recording sessions and in concert." A separate committee, composed mainly of producers, chooses the inductees. In 2010, the category was renamed to "Award for Musical Excellence". According to Joel Peresman, the president of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, "This award gives us flexibility to dive into some things and recognize some people who might not ordinarily get recognized."

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11.19.11 @ 22:51pm


It's notable that Michael Jackson went from #40 to #2 on the VH1 lists despite releasing only the godawful Invincible album in that time frame. If ever someone's death has overrated their importance...

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12.15.11 @ 20:54pm


Agreed. I could understand if Invincible was the nest Thriller but it wasn't. The guy was amazing, but best musical artist ever? give me a break.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 12.16.11 @ 09:06am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53kxAGaS20&list=PLDCF866D89D420AC5&feature=plpp_play_all

Eddie Trunk with Rock Hall Foundation President Joel Peresman. The complete interview. The following videos will play automatically.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.20.11 @ 16:35pm


THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART
Joel Whitburn Presents Top Pop Albums Seventh Edition 1955-2009
Page 951 - THE TOP 500 ARTISTS (THE TOP 30)

01. Elvis Presley
02. Frank Sinatra
03. The Beatles
04. Barbra Streisand
05. The Rolling Stones
06. Johnny Mathis
07. Elton John
08. Bob Dylan
09. Neil Diamond
10. The Temptations
11. Eric Clapton
12. The Beach Boys
13. Rod Stewart
14. Willie Nelson
15. Mantovani
16. Ray Charles
17. Neil Young
18. Ray Conniff
19. Prince
20. Paul McCartney
21. Aretha Franklin
22. George Strait
23. Jimmy Buffett
24. Pink Floyd
25. Chicago
26. David Bowie
27. James Brown
28. Bruce Springsteen
29. Andy Williams
30. Bee Gees

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.22.11 @ 08:52am


Chicago is at # 25 now all-time with 6336 points! Here is what I see happening in the next 10 to 20 years. Ray Charles, Neil Young, Prince, Paul McCartney, Aretha Franklin, George Strait, Jimmy Buffett, Pink Floyd, Chicago, David Bowie, James Brown, Bruce Springsteen and the Bee Gees will all eventually surpass the deceased Ray Conniff and Mantovani, who have not charted in over 30 years. This is what the Top 30 will eventually end up looking like:

01. Elvis Presley
02. Frank Sinatra
03. The Beatles
04. Barbra Streisand
05. The Rolling Stones
06. Elton John
07. Bob Dylan
08. Neil Diamond
09. Johnny Mathis
10. Eric Clapton
11. The Beach Boys
12. Rod Stewart
13. Willie Nelson
14. Neil Young
15. Prince
16. Paul McCartney
17. The Temptations
18. Pink Floyd
19. David Bowie
20. Bruce Springsteen
21. Bee Gees
22. Chicago
23. George Strait
24. Jimmy Buffett
25. Aretha Franklin
26. Ray Charles
27. James Brown
28. Mantovani
29. Ray Conniff
30. Andy Williams

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.22.11 @ 16:34pm


THE TOP 10 ARTISTS FROM THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

02. Frank Sinatra
04. Barbra Streisand
06. Johnny Mathis
14. Willie Nelson
15. Mantovani
18. Ray Conniff
22. George Strait
23. Jimmy Buffett
25. Chicago
29. Andy Williams

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.22.11 @ 16:42pm


THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART
Joel Whitburn Presents Top Pop Albums Seventh Edition 1955-2009
Page 951 - THE TOP 500 ARTISTS

THE TOP 10 ALL-TIME CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

(01) 02. Frank Sinatra
(02) 04. Barbra Streisand
(03) 06. Johnny Mathis
(04) 14. Willie Nelson
(05) 15. Mantovani
(06) 18. Ray Conniff
(07) 22. George Strait
(08) 23. Jimmy Buffett
(09) 25. Chicago
(10) 29. Andy Williams

THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART
Joel Whitburn Presents Billboard's Top Pop Singles 1955-2010 13th Edition
Page 1172 - THE TOP 500 ARTISTS

THE TOP 10 ALL-TIME CHARTING ARTISTS ON THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

(01) 05. Mariah Carey
(02) 08. Janet Jackson
(03) 12. Pat Boone
(04) 13. Whitney Houston
(05) 20. Chicago
(06) 26. Connie Francis
(07) 29. Frank Sinatra
(08) 30. Paul Anka
(09) 32. Dionne Warwick
(10) 34. Olivia Newton-John

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.23.11 @ 21:11pm


Any news about A defector's unexplainable disappearance?

Posted by Allison Stiles on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 16:47pm


WOW!! Maybe I'm THE ONLY FOREIGNER & LOU GRAMM fan?? Unless I missed something, I cannot believe not ONE mention of them on ANYONE'S list-ANYWHERE...WHY??

Posted by Margo Crotsley on Sunday, 01.1.12 @ 13:12pm


Both Foreigner and Lou Gramm have their own pages on here, try using "search" on the left side of the page (or alternatively, click on the "Complete List of Artists" button...)

Much easier than reading through the nearly 800 comments on this page.

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JOINT INDUCTIONS: What Should Have Been/What Was/And What Will Be

01. 1996 - Jefferson Airplane/Starship
02. 1997 - The (Young) Rascals
03. 1997 - Parliament/Funkadelic
04. 2012 - The Small Faces/The Faces
05. 20?? - Joy Division/New Order
06. 20?? - Wham!/George Michael

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.29.12 @ 07:21am


http://canadianmusichalloffame.ca/

The Canadian Music Hall of Fame website is back up and running again!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.29.12 @ 23:27pm


http://canadianmusichalloffame.ca/

The Canadian Music Hall of Fame: 1978-Present

2012 Blue Rodeo
2011 Shania Twain
2010 April Wine
2009 Loverboy
2008 Triumph
2007 Bob Rock
2006 Bryan Adams
2005 The Tragically Hip
2004 Bob Ezrin
2003 Tom Cochrane
2002 Daniel Lanois
2001 Bruce Cockburn
2000 Bruce Fairbairn
1999 Luc Plamondon
1998 David Foster
1997 Lenny Breau
1997 Gil Evans
1997 Maynard Ferguson
1997 Moe Koffman
1997 Rob McConnell
1996 David Clayton-Thomas
1996 Denny Doherty
1996 John Kay
1996 Domenic Troiano
1996 Zal Yanovsky
1995 Buffy Sainte-Marie
1994 Rush
1993 Anne Murray
1992 Ian & Sylvia
1991 Leonard Cohen
1990 Maureen Forrester
1989 The Band
1988 No Inductees
1987 The Guess Who
1986 Gordon Lightfoot
1985 Wilf Carter
1984 The Crewcuts
1984 The Diamonds
1984 The Four Lads
1983 Glenn Gould
1982 Neil Young
1981 Joni Mitchell
1980 Paul Anka
1979 Hank Snow
1978 Guy Lombardo
1978 Oscar Peterson

Posted by Roy on Monday, 01.30.12 @ 07:07am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

288 inductees in 27 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees - BEST YEAR EVER!
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees - WORST YEAR EVER!
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees

2010 - 13 inductees
2011 - 08 inductees
2012 - 18 inductees

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 20:46pm


Count again Roy. 17 for this year

6 Performers chosen by ballot (Small Faces/Faces is one band, not two)
6 Performers chosen by special committee
1 Performer chosen to be called Early Influence
1 Non-Performer
3 Award For Musical Excellence

Posted by Philip on Friday, 02.10.12 @ 23:24pm


The Rolling Stone magazine list may have its flaws and people will never completely agree on such things.

But given some of the opinions I read on the comment page, I'm glad Rolling Stone magazine does not take into account 99% of the stuff posted here.

Let's face it, this is THE BEST list put around so far. I mean, you may disagree regarding the order of some artists who were ranked maybe too high or too low, but you can NEVER say that they placed undeserving artists on their list, unlike the VH1 list for example, which is MUCH WORSE.

I'm full of people who think that just because their favourite musician didn't make it on the list, then it sucks. It's not that simple to analyze this and people need to start doing some basic research before stating their opinion about things they don't really have much knowledge about. Your favorite band IS NOT necessarily the greatest thing ever, except for yourself, OK? It's easy to criticize that way...

Again, The Rolling Stone magazine is THE BEST list I've seen so far and you only take notice of that when you see how bad the others are.

Posted by JGGott_87 on Tuesday, 02.14.12 @ 12:07pm


JGGott... you don't mean to tell me you read through all the nearly 800 comments on here??

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 02.15.12 @ 15:53pm


No, I didn't. But I got got the picture just by reading some 40 comments... sample, you know? ;)

Posted by JGGott_87 on Friday, 02.17.12 @ 08:12am


A 2013 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony To Make Everyone Happy!

01. Chubby Checker
02. Mary Wells
03. The Marvelettes
04. Jan and Dean
05. The Monkees
06. The Moody Blues
07. Deep Purple
08. Chicago
09. Rush
10. Kiss

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.25.12 @ 10:47am


"A 2013 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony To Make Everyone Happy!

01. Chubby Checker
02. Mary Wells
03. The Marvelettes
04. Jan and Dean
05. The Monkees
06. The Moody Blues
07. Deep Purple
08. Chicago
09. Rush
10. Kiss

Posted by Roy.

I'm glad that THE MIRACLES are no longer on that list. It made no sense that they were on Rolling Stone's list of the Top 50 Immortals, but weren't inducted. Are there any others left not in ?

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 03.16.12 @ 14:23pm


ACTORS WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES:

01. Billy Crystal for Milt Gabler in 1993
02. Robert Townsend for The Dells in 2004
03. Tom Hanks for The Dave Clark Five in 2008
04. Chris Rock for Red Hot Chilli Peppers in 2012

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.20.12 @ 22:05pm


Changes that need to be implemented under this page:

1) Under the Immortals section, it says that 87 of the artists are Hall of Famers. That number has now jumped to 89 as I see only eleven names that are not inducted.

2) It also states that The Miracles aren't in, but they now are.

3) It should be noted that 91 of the artists on the updated list have been inducted. It also should be noted under the updated list that Gram Parsons is now the only one remaining who is both eligible and not inducted.

4) "Creedence" is spelled wrong on the updated list.

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Posted by boko on Monday, 03.26.12 @ 17:35pm


No Chicago in the top 100? Rolling Stone is a joke.

Posted by SlimLarry on Saturday, 03.31.12 @ 19:41pm


The Ravens
The Clovers
The Dominoes
The Mills Brothers
Roy Brown
Wynonie Harris
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
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Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.1.12 @ 21:16pm


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

288 inductees in 27 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees - BEST YEAR EVER!
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees - WORST YEAR EVER!
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees

2010 - 13 inductees
2011 - 08 inductees
2012 - 18 inductees

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-Present):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Donna Summer, War, KISS, LL Cool J, Bon Jovi, The Spinners, Heart, Rufus with Chaka Khan, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Cure, Eric B. & Rakim

ARTISTS INDUCTED MORE THAN ONCE INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME:

01. Eric Clapton (3 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 1993: Cream | 2000: Eric Clapton)
02. Clyde McPhatter (2 Times; 1987: Clyde McPhatter | 1988: The Drifters)
03. George Harrison (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 2004: George Harrison)
04. Paul McCartney (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 1999: Paul McCartney)
05. John Lennon (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 1994: John Lennon)
06. Ron Wood (2 Times; 1989: The Rolling Stones | 2012: The Small Faces/The Faces)
07. Paul Simon (2 Times; 1990: Simon & Garfunkel | 2001: Paul Simon)
08. David Crosby (2 Times; 1991: The Byrds | 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash)
09. Curtis Mayfield (2 Times; 1991: The Impressions | 1999: Curtis Mayfield)
10. Jimmy Page (2 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 1995: Led Zeppelin)
11. Jeff Beck (2 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 2009: Jeff Beck)
12. Rod Stewart (2 Times; 1994: Rod Stewart | 2012: The Small Faces/The Faces)
13. Neil Young (2 Times; 1995: Neil Young | 1997: Buffalo Springfield)
14. Michael Jackson (2 Times; 1997: The Jackson 5 | 2001: Michael Jackson)
15. Stephen Stills (2 Times; 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash | 1997: Buffalo Springfield)
16. Graham Nash (2 Times; 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash | 2010: The Hollies)
17. John Carter (2 Times; 2001: The Flamingos | 2004: The Dells)
18. Sammy Strain (2 Times; 2005: The O'Jays | 2009: Little Anthony & The Imperials)

ARTISTS INDUCTED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE SAME YEAR INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME:

01. 1997 - Stephen Stills (Crosby, Stills & Nash | Buffalo Springfield)

BANDS WITH 10 OR MORE MEMBERS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Parliament-Funkadelic (16 Members Inducted in 1997)
02. The Grateful Dead (12 Members Inducted in 1994)
03. Bill Haley And The Comets (11 Members Inducted in 1987/2012)

BANDS AS A WHOLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. U2
02. ZZ Top
03. Hall & Oates
04. Ashford & Simpson
05. The Neville Brothers
06. Boyz II Men
07. N'Sync
08. OutKast
09. Velvet Revolver
10. Green Day

BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)
03. The Yardbirds (5) - Eric Clapton (2) ; Jeff Beck (2) ; Jimmy Page (1)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Smokey Robinson (7)
01. Robbie Robertson (7)
01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Carole King (6)

03. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
03. Seymour Stein (5)
03. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
03. Bruce Springsteen (5)
03. Billy Joel (5)

04. Paul Simon (4)
04. John Fogerty (4)
04. Elton John (4)
04. Bonnie Raitt (4)
04. Eddie Vedder (4)
04. Steven Van Zandt (4)
04. Paul Shaffer (4)
04. Bono (4)

05. Phil Spector (3)
05. Little Richard (3)
05. Diana Ross (3)
05. Lou Reed (3)
05. Jann Wenner (3)
05. ZZ Top (3)
05. Kid Rock (3)

06. Quincy Jones (2)
06. Ray Charles (2)
06. Stevie Wonder (2)
06. Chuck Berry (2)
06. Ben E. King (2)
06. B.B. King (2)
06. Darlene Love (2)
06. Bette Midler (2)
06. Brian Wilson (2)
06. Paul McCartney (2)
06. Mick Jagger (2)
06. Eric Clapton (2)
06. Jeff Beck (2)
06. James Taylor (2)
06. Steven Tyler (2)
06. Sting (2)
06. Tom Petty (2)
06. Patti Smith (2)
06. Mick Jones (2)
06. Natalie Cole (2)
06. John Mellencamp (2)
06. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
06. Melissa Etheridge (2)
06. Justin Timberlake (2)
06. Alicia Keys (2)
06. The Edge (2)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN ONLY ONE INDUCTION SPEECH

Green Day, Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, Chuck D, Chris Rock, Rob Zombie, John Legend, Lloyd Price, John Densmore, Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Trey Anastasio, Billie Joe Armstrong, Jackson Browne, Garry Tallent, Max Weinberg, Ron Wood, Jimmy Page, Flea, Eminem, Rosanne Cash, Ben Harper, Tom Hanks, Jerry Butler, Jay-Z, Zack de la Rocha, Velvet Revolver, Lars Ulrich, James Hetfield, Shirley Manson, Herbie Hancock, Rod Stewart, Robert Townsend, Ice-T, Jeff Lynne, OutKast, Dave Matthews, Tom Morello, Gwen Stefani, Marty Stuart, Jewel, Anthony Kiedis, Jakob Dylan, Sam Moore, Steve Cropper, Frankie Valli, N'Sync, Marc Anthony, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Ricky Martin, Mary J. Blige, Moby, Lil Kim, Puff Daddy, Art Alexakis, Lauryn Hill, Jimmy Iovine, Chris Isaak, Jimmy Buffett, Sheryl Crow, Tony Rich, Shania Twain, John Popper, Shawn Colvin, Prince, Ricky Skaggs, Emmylou Harris, Mavis Staples, Madonna, David Byrne, Mariah Carey, Mickey Hart, Phil Lesh, Billy Corgan, Merry Clayton, Marianne Faithfull, Bob Krasnow, Arlo Guthrie, Harry Belafonte, Willie Nelson, Joe Perry, Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson, Deborah Chessler, Dave Pirner, Axl Rose, Bruce Hornsby, Etta James, k.d. lang, Boyz II Men, George Clinton, Dion, Billy Crystal, Jim Stewart, Lyle Lovett, Carlos Santana, Aaron Neville, Don Henley, Tracy Chapman, Chaka Khan, Bobby Brown, The Neville Brothers, Hank Ballard, Robert Cray, Paul Anka, Bob Crewe, Boz Scaggs, Graham Nash, Vernon Reid, Rickie Lee Jones, Pete Townshend, Tina Turner, Anita Baker, Bobby McFerrin, Al Green, Pete Seeger, Doc Pomus, Sam Phillips, Lester Sill, Peter Wolf, Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson, Paul Butterfield, Walter Yetnikoff, Ewart Abner, Julian Lennon, Sean Lennon, Steve Winwood, Hank Williams Jr., Roberta Flack, Herb Alpert, Norm N. Nite, Scott Muni, Jerry Lee Lewis, Jerry Wexler, Robert Palmer

ACTORS WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES:

01. Billy Crystal for Milt Gabler in 1993
02. Robert Townsend for The Dells in 2004
03. Tom Hanks for The Dave Clark Five in 2008
04. Chris Rock for Red Hot Chili Peppers in 2012

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone
06. 2011 - Leon Russell

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.3.12 @ 22:06pm


http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_x1.html

DIGITAL DREAM DOOR'S OLD ROCK HALL QUALIFICATIONS SCALE

1 - Non-existant
2 - Mostly Insignificant
3 - Recognizable, But Minor Credentials
4 - Modest Accomplishments
5 - Worth Examining, But Will Often Fall Short
6 - Strong Case To Be Made
7 - Solid Choice
8 - Unquestioned Credentials
9 - Dominant Artist
10 - The Immortals

THE NEW SCALE

10 - The Immortals
9 - Deserves To Be A First Ballot Lock
8 - Should Be Guaranteed An Induction
7 - An Eventual Induction Is Likely
6 - Should Be Nominated At Some Point
5 - Worthy Of At Least A Debate For A Nomination
4 - Not Insignificant, But Shouldn't Be Nominated
3 - No Business Being Debated By Committee
2 - No Business Being Even Mentioned
1 - No Business Visiting The Hall Of Fame Without a Ticket

I LIKED THE WORDINGS OF THE OLDER SCALE BETTER!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 11:08am


In case you have not noticed yet, the Rock Hall has stopped including timelines with inductee bios. The last class to have timelines included with their bios was the class of 2009.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.8.12 @ 20:07pm


Actually, the Funk Brothers can also be added to the earlier list of artists who you will be seeing inducted next year or the year after in the sidemen category or as addendums in the main performers category:

The Funk Brothers
The Jordanaires
The Belmonts
The Mothers of Invention
The E Street Band
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Revolution
Wings

Inducting The Funk Brothers would give a second induction for James Jamerson and Benny Benjamin

This is who All Music Guide lists as the members of The Funk Brothers

James Jamerson
Joe Messina
Eddie Willis
Robert White
Johnny Griffith
Richard "Pistol" Allen
Jack Ashford
Earl Van Dyke
Eddie "Bongo" Brown
Uriel Jones
Bob Babbitt
Joe Hunter
Benny Benjamin

This is who Wikipedia lists as the members of the Funk Brothers

Joe Hunter
Robert White
Eddie Willis
Joe Messina
James Jamerson
Marvin Gaye :question: Do you think they will induct him a second time?
Benny Benjamin
Richard "Pistol" Allen
Jack Ashford
Eddie "Bongo" Brown
Johnny Griffith
Uriel Jones
Earl Van Dyke
Bob Babbitt
Dennis Coffey

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.17.12 @ 23:17pm


disgusted that Prince and michael jackson aren't in the top ten and david bowie isn't even on the list for rolling stone

Posted by Audrey Byrne on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 01:00am


Is it alright to reference some of this on my page if I include a backlink to this site?

Posted by larybrab on Wednesday, 04.25.12 @ 14:11pm


How is it that Golden Earring is passed over and over year after year . Fact , this band has been together for 50years " hey man!!!!! That's longer than the Rolling Stones. Fact , Golden Earring has been making records and touring in Europe not in the States . It is with strong feelings that Golden Earring be inducted in the Rock and Roll hall of fame ! ! !
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i may be the only who sees this, but i think Michael Jackson's death was the primary reason why he got the #2 spot on Vh1's newer list. think about it, he was #40 on their old one, and he put out only ONE crappy album between the time when the 1998 list came out and the 2010 list did. i don't see what he could have done musically over the past 14 years to snag the #2 spot.

Posted by doogie on Saturday, 05.12.12 @ 17:04pm


Does anybody on here go to the website "Not In the Hall of Fame"? I was wondering what happened to it, each time I click on it, it says it is not found. Any help would be appreciated.
























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Posted by Brian on Thursday, 05.17.12 @ 15:19pm


It works for me, Brian. Maybe try using a different internet browser. I don't know if that will help, but it's worth a shot.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 05.17.12 @ 15:34pm


If none of the following artists are inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame between 2013 and 2025 (the first year 21st century artists become eligible), then what the hell are we left with?:

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-Present):

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Donna Summer, War, KISS, LL Cool J, Bon Jovi, The Spinners, Heart, Rufus with Chaka Khan, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Cure, Eric B. & Rakim

OTHERS

MY TOP 80 MAIN PERFORMER NOMINEES FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Chicago
02. Mary Wells
03. The Marvelettes
04. The Chiffons
05. Joan Baez
06. Judy Collins
07. Peter, Paul and Mary
08. The Kingston Trio
09. The Monkees
10. Jan and Dean

11. Chubby Checker
12. John Coltrane
13. Johnny Mathis
14. Willie Nelson
15. Tina Turner
16. Carole King
17. Carly Simon
18. Linda Ronstadt
19. Randy Newman
20. Cat Stevens

21. The Moody Blues
22. Deep Purple
23. Yes
24. King Crimson
25. Jethro Tull
26. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
27. Blood, Sweat and Tears
28. Rush
29. Kiss
30. The Cars

31. Heart
32. Cheap Trick
33. Hall and Oates
34. The Doobie Brothers
35. Kool and the Gang
36. The Commodores
37. Joy Division/New Order
38. Iron Maiden
39. Motorhead
40. Journey

41. The Pointer Sisters
42. Boston
43. Kansas
44. Styx
45. Paul Anka
46. Neil Sedaka
47. Roberta Flack
48. Patti Labelle
49. Dionne Warwick
50. Olivia Newton-John

51. The Zombies
52. Ringo Starr
53. Electric Light Orchestra
54. The Turtles
55. The Troggs
56. Herman's Hermits
57. Thin Lizzy
58. Steppenwolf
59. The Guess Who
60. Paul Revere and the Raiders

61. Sonny and Cher
62. Cher
63. Jim Croce
64. John Denver
65. Tom Jones
66. Warren Zevon
67. Foreigner
68. Bobby Rydell
69. Fabian
70. Dick Dale

71. Joe Cocker
72. Barry White
73. Todd Rundgren
74. Whitney Houston
75. Janet Jackson
76. Captain Beefheart
77. Peter Gabriel
78. Phil Collins
79. Sting
80. Steve Winwood
81. Bette Midler

MY TOP 12 EARLY INFLUENCE NOMINEES FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Roy Brown
02. The Ravens
03. Wynonie Harris
04. Sister Rosetta Tharpe
05. The Clovers
06. The Dominoes
07. The Mills Brothers
08. Big Mama Thornton
09. Harry Belafonte
10. Ella Fitzgerald
11. Frank Sinatra
12. Tony Bennett

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.17.12 @ 22:51pm


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko (The Band)
02. 1994 - Garth Hudson (The Band)
03. 1994 - Richard Manuel (The Band)
04. 1994 - Robbie Robertson (The Band)
05. 1995 - Neil Young
06. 1997 - Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield)
07. 1997 - Bruce Palmer (Buffalo Springfield)
08. 1997 - Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
09. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
10. 1997 - Gene Cornish (The (Young) Rascals)
11. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
12. 2000 - Zal Yanovsky (The Lovin' Spoonful)
13. 2008 - Leonard Cohen

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.21.12 @ 22:36pm


Roy,

I thought Joni Mitchell was Canadian.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 07:22am


Didn't you catch her on the list? She's there!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 08:19am


SIDEMEN

The Wrecking Crew
The Funk Brothers
The Jordanaires
The Belmonts
The Mothers of Invention
The E Street Band
The Silver Bullet Band
The Wailers
The Revolution
Wings

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06.2.12 @ 08:33am


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AS SOLO PERFORMERS BEFORE BEING INDUCTED WITH THE BANDS WHO SPAWNED THEM

01. Rod Stewart inducted in 1994; The Small Faces/The Faces inducted in 2012
02. Neil Young inducted in 1995; Buffalo Springfield inducted in 1997

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06.17.12 @ 20:31pm


The 100 Greatest Trios

01. Cream
02. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
03. Crosby, Stills and Nash
04. Emerson, Lake and Palmer
05. The Bee Gees
06. The Police
07. ZZ Top
08. Rush
09. Nirvana
10. Beastie Boys
11. The Kingston Trio
12. The Supremes
13. The Ronettes
14. Peter, Paul and Mary
15. The Pointer Sisters
16. The Thompson Twins
17. RUN-DMC

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06.17.12 @ 21:11pm


The Wrecking Crew * The Undisputed Truth * Yarbrough & Peoples * Young-Holt Unlimited * Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs * Spike Jones * Terry Jacks * Carl Douglas * Bertie Higgins * Joey Scarbury * After 7 * Londonbeat * Ugly Kid Joe * Dog's Eye View * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Rebbie Jackson * LaToya Jackson * Millie Jackson * Yello * Shanice * Jeremy Jordan * Buckner & Garcia * The Tony Rich Project * Curtis Stigers * The S.O.S. Band * Living In A Box * Maxine Nightingale * The Oak Ridge Boys * Boys Don't Cry * Bow Wow Wow * The Blow Monkeys * Tommy Tutone * Bad English * Hoyt Axton * Pia Zadora * Alphaville * Eddy Arnold * Paul Hardcastle * Julian Cope * Lady Pank * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Baz Luhrmann * Oleta Adams * Glenn Gould * Cole Porter * Irving Berlin * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Ya Kid K * Hi Tek 3 * Technotronic * Billy Crystal * Eddie Murphy * Bruce Willis * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Rodney Dangerfield * Sunscreem * Billie Myers * Shannon * The Mary Jane Girls * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Stephanie Mills * The Velvelettes * Shep & The Limelights * The Persuaders * Breakfast Club * John Parr * Paul Carrack * LeAnn Rimes

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 06.23.12 @ 05:49am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame: 1986-Present

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

2012
Beastie Boys
Donovan
Guns N' Roses
Laura Nyro
Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Small Faces/The Faces
Freddie King
Cosimo Matassa
Glyn Johns
Tom Dowd
Don Kirshner
The Blue Caps
The Comets
The Crickets
The Famous Flames
The Midnighters
The Miracles

2011
Alice Cooper
Neil Diamond
Dr. John
Darlene Love
Tom Waits
Leon Russell
Jac Holzman
Art Rupe

2010
ABBA
Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Hollies
The Stooges
David Geffen
Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry
Jesse Stone
Mort Shuman
Otis Blackwell

2009
Jeff Beck
Little Anthony and the Imperials
Metallica
RUN-DMC
Bobby Womack
Wanda Jackson
Bill Black
D.J. Fontana
Spooner Oldham

2008
John Mellencamp
Leonard Cohen
Madonna
The Dave Clark Five
The Ventures
Little Walter
Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff

2007
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Patti Smith
R.E.M.
The Ronettes
Van Halen

2006
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Miles Davis
Sex Pistols
Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss

2005
Buddy Guy
Percy Sledge
The O'Jays
The Pretenders
U2
Frank Barsalona
Seymour Stein

2004
Bob Seger
George Harrison
Jackson Browne
Prince
The Dells
Traffic
ZZ Top
Jann S. Wenner

2003
AC/DC
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
Righteous Brothers
The Clash
The Police
Benny Benjamin
Floyd Cramer
Steve Douglas
Mo Ostin

2002
Brenda Lee
Gene Pitney
Isaac Hayes
Ramones
Talking Heads
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Chet Atkins
Jim Stewart

2001
Aerosmith
Michael Jackson
Paul Simon
Queen
Ritchie Valens
Solomon Burke
Steely Dan
The Flamingos
James Burton
Johnnie Johnson
Chris Blackwell

2000
Bonnie Raitt
Earth, Wind & Fire
Eric Clapton
James Taylor
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Billie Holiday
Nat "King" Cole
Earl Palmer
Hal Blaine
James Jamerson
King Curtis
Scotty Moore
Clive Davis

1999
Billy Joel
Bruce Springsteen
Curtis Mayfield
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield
Paul McCartney
The Staple Singers
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Charles Brown
George Martin

1998
Fleetwood Mac
Gene Vincent
Lloyd Price
Santana
The Eagles
The Mamas and the Papas
Jelly Roll Morton
Allen Toussaint

1997
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic
The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
The Jackson Five
Bill Monroe
Mahalia Jackson
Syd Nathan

1996
David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John
Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground
Pete Seeger
Tom Donahue

1995
Al Green
Frank Zappa
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
Neil Young
The Allman Brothers Band
The Orioles
Paul Ackerman

1994
Bob Marley
Duane Eddy
Elton John
John Lennon
Rod Stewart
The Animals
The Band
The Grateful Dead
Willie Dixon
Johnny Otis

1993
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Etta James
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Ruth Brown
Sly and the Family Stone
The Doors
Van Morrison
Dinah Washington
Dick Clark
Milt Gabler

1992
Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
Sam and Dave
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
The Yardbirds
Elmore James
Professor Longhair
Bill Graham
Doc Pomus
Leo Fender

1991
Ike and Tina Turner
Jimmy Reed
John Lee Hooker
LaVern Baker
The Byrds
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Howlin' Wolf
Nesuhi Ertegun
Dave Bartholomew
Ralph Bass

1990
Bobby Darin
Hank Ballard
Simon and Garfunkel
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters
The Who
Charlie Christian
Louis Armstrong
Ma Rainey
Gerry Goffin and Carole King
Holland-Dozier-Holland

1989
Dion
Otis Redding
Stevie Wonder
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Bessie Smith
The Ink Spots
The Soul Stirrers
Phil Spector

1988
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
The Supremes
Lead Belly
Les Paul
Woody Guthrie
Berry Gordy, Jr

1987
Aretha Franklin
B.B. King
Big Joe Turner
Bill Haley
Bo Diddley
Carl Perkins
Clyde McPhatter
Eddie Cochran
Jackie Wilson
Marvin Gaye
Muddy Waters
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Smokey Robinson
The Coasters
Hank Williams
Louis Jordan
T-Bone Walker
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Leiber
Mike Stoller
Jerry Wexler
Leonard Chess

1986
Buddy Holly
Chuck Berry
Elvis Presley
Fats Domino
James Brown
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
The Everly Brothers
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Yancey
Robert Johnson
John Hammond
Alan Freed
Sam Phillips

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

287 inductees in 27 years. Each band is counted as 1.

AVERAGE # OF INDUCTEES PER YEAR - 10

1986 - 16 inductees
1987 - 23 inductees
1988 - 09 inductees
1989 - 09 inductees

1990 - 16 inductees
1991 - 11 inductees
1992 - 12 inductees
1993 - 11 inductees
1994 - 10 inductees
1995 - 09 inductees
1996 - 09 inductees
1997 - 10 inductees
1998 - 08 inductees
1999 - 10 inductees

2000 - 14 inductees
2001 - 11 inductees
2002 - 08 inductees
2003 - 09 inductees
2004 - 08 inductees
2005 - 07 inductees
2006 - 07 inductees
2007 - 05 inductees
2008 - 08 inductees
2009 - 09 inductees

2010 - 13 inductees
2011 - 08 inductees
2012 - 17 inductees

ARTISTS WHO HAVE MADE THE FINAL NOMINEES LISTS ON THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BALLOTS BUT HAVE NOT BEEN INDUCTED YET (1986-Present)

Ben E. King, Chuck Willis, Esther Phillips, Johnny Ace, Mary Wells, Carole King, The Dominoes, The Meters, Joe Tex, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, The "5" Royales, The Chantels, Gram Parsons, Chic, Kraftwerk, MC5, Steve Winwood, Conway Twitty, The J. Geils Band, Randy Newman, Cat Stevens, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Afrika Bambaataa, Donna Summer, War, KISS, LL Cool J, Bon Jovi, The Spinners, Heart, Rufus with Chaka Khan, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, The Cure, Eric B. & Rakim

ARTISTS INDUCTED MORE THAN ONCE INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Eric Clapton (3 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 1993: Cream | 2000: Eric Clapton)
02. Clyde McPhatter (2 Times; 1987: Clyde McPhatter | 1988: The Drifters)
03. George Harrison (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 2004: George Harrison)
04. Paul McCartney (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 1999: Paul McCartney)
05. John Lennon (2 Times; 1988: The Beatles | 1994: John Lennon)
06. Ron Wood (2 Times; 1989: The Rolling Stones | 2012: The Small Faces/The Faces)
07. Paul Simon (2 Times; 1990: Simon & Garfunkel | 2001: Paul Simon)
08. David Crosby (2 Times; 1991: The Byrds | 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash)
09. Curtis Mayfield (2 Times; 1991: The Impressions | 1999: Curtis Mayfield)
10. Jimmy Page (2 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 1995: Led Zeppelin)
11. Jeff Beck (2 Times; 1992: The Yardbirds | 2009: Jeff Beck)
12. Rod Stewart (2 Times; 1994: Rod Stewart | 2012: The Small Faces/The Faces)
13. Neil Young (2 Times; 1995: Neil Young | 1997: Buffalo Springfield)
14. Michael Jackson (2 Times; 1997: The Jackson 5 | 2001: Michael Jackson)
15. Stephen Stills (2 Times; 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash | 1997: Buffalo Springfield)
16. Graham Nash (2 Times; 1997: Crosby, Stills & Nash | 2010: The Hollies)
17. John Carter (2 Times; 2001: The Flamingos | 2004: The Dells)
18. Sammy Strain (2 Times; 2005: The O'Jays | 2009: Little Anthony & The Imperials)

ARTISTS INDUCTED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE SAME YEAR INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1997 - Stephen Stills (Crosby, Stills & Nash | Buffalo Springfield)

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AS SOLO PERFORMERS BEFORE BEING INDUCTED WITH THE BANDS WHO SPAWNED THEM

01. Rod Stewart inducted in 1994; The Small Faces/The Faces inducted in 2012
02. Neil Young inducted in 1995; Buffalo Springfield inducted in 1997

ARTISTS WHO WERE NOMINATED FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME IN THE MAIN PERFORMERS CATEGORY, BUT INDUCTED IN THE EARLY INFLUENCE CATEGORY

1991 - Howlin' Wolf
2009 - Wanda Jackson
2012 - Freddie King

BANDS WITH 10 OR MORE MEMBERS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Parliament-Funkadelic (16 Members Inducted in 1997)
02. The Grateful Dead (12 Members Inducted in 1994)
03. Bill Haley And The Comets (11 Members Inducted in 1987/2012)

JOINT NOMINATIONS AND INDUCTIONS

01. 1988 - The Drifters
02. 1997 - The (Young) Rascals
03. 1997 - Parliament-Funkadelic
04. 2012 - The Small Faces/The Faces

BANDS AS A WHOLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. U2
02. ZZ Top
03. Hall & Oates
04. Ashford & Simpson
05. The Neville Brothers
06. Boyz II Men
07. N'Sync
08. OutKast
09. Velvet Revolver
10. Green Day

BANDS WITH THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES GIVEN BY THEIR MEMBERS

01. The Rolling Stones (10) - Keith Richards (7) ; Mick Jagger (2) ; Ron Wood (1)
02. U2 (6) - Bono (4) ; The Edge (2)
03. The Yardbirds (5) - Eric Clapton (2) ; Jeff Beck (2) ; Jimmy Page (1)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN THE MOST ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Smokey Robinson (7)
01. Robbie Robertson (7)
01. Keith Richards (7)
01. Neil Young (7)

02. Carole King (6)

03. Ahmet Ertegun (5)
03. Seymour Stein (5)
03. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller (5)
03. Bruce Springsteen (5)
03. Billy Joel (5)

04. Paul Simon (4)
04. John Fogerty (4)
04. Elton John (4)
04. Bonnie Raitt (4)
04. Eddie Vedder (4)
04. Steven Van Zandt (4)
04. Paul Shaffer (4)
04. Bono (4)

05. Phil Spector (3)
05. Little Richard (3)
05. Diana Ross (3)
05. Lou Reed (3)
05. Jann Wenner (3)
05. ZZ Top (3)
05. Kid Rock (3)

06. Quincy Jones (2)
06. Ray Charles (2)
06. Stevie Wonder (2)
06. Chuck Berry (2)
06. Ben E. King (2)
06. B.B. King (2)
06. Darlene Love (2)
06. Bette Midler (2)
06. Brian Wilson (2)
06. Paul McCartney (2)
06. Mick Jagger (2)
06. Eric Clapton (2)
06. Jeff Beck (2)
06. James Taylor (2)
06. Steven Tyler (2)
06. Sting (2)
06. Tom Petty (2)
06. Patti Smith (2)
06. Mick Jones (2)
06. Natalie Cole (2)
06. John Mellencamp (2)
06. Daryl Hall & John Oates (2)
06. Melissa Etheridge (2)
06. Justin Timberlake (2)
06. Alicia Keys (2)
06. The Edge (2)

ARTISTS WHO HAVE GIVEN ONLY ONE INDUCTION SPEECH

Green Day, Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, Chuck D, LL Cool J, Chris Rock, Rob Zombie, John Legend, Lloyd Price, John Densmore, Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Trey Anastasio, Billie Joe Armstrong, Jackson Browne, Garry Tallent, Max Weinberg, Ron Wood, Jimmy Page, Flea, Eminem, Rosanne Cash, Ben Harper, Tom Hanks, Jerry Butler, Jay-Z, Zack de la Rocha, Velvet Revolver, Lars Ulrich, James Hetfield, Shirley Manson, Herbie Hancock, Rod Stewart, Robert Townsend, Ice-T, Jeff Lynne, OutKast, Dave Matthews, Tom Morello, Gwen Stefani, Marty Stuart, Jewel, Anthony Kiedis, Jakob Dylan, Sam Moore, Steve Cropper, Frankie Valli, N'Sync, Marc Anthony, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Ricky Martin, Mary J. Blige, Moby, Lil Kim, Puff Daddy, Art Alexakis, Lauryn Hill, Jimmy Iovine, Chris Isaak, Jimmy Buffett, Sheryl Crow, Tony Rich, Shania Twain, John Popper, Shawn Colvin, Prince, Ricky Skaggs, Emmylou Harris, Mavis Staples, Madonna, David Byrne, Mariah Carey, Mickey Hart, Phil Lesh, Billy Corgan, Merry Clayton, Marianne Faithfull, Bob Krasnow, Arlo Guthrie, Harry Belafonte, Willie Nelson, Joe Perry, Fred Schneider, Kate Pierson, Deborah Chessler, Dave Pirner, Axl Rose, Bruce Hornsby, Etta James, k.d. lang, Boyz II Men, George Clinton, Dion, Billy Crystal, Jim Stewart, Lyle Lovett, Carlos Santana, Aaron Neville, Don Henley, Tracy Chapman, Chaka Khan, Bobby Brown, The Neville Brothers, Hank Ballard, Robert Cray, Paul Anka, Bob Crewe, Boz Scaggs, Graham Nash, Vernon Reid, Rickie Lee Jones, Pete Townshend, Tina Turner, Anita Baker, Bobby McFerrin, Al Green, Pete Seeger, Doc Pomus, Sam Phillips, Lester Sill, Peter Wolf, Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson, Paul Butterfield, Walter Yetnikoff, Ewart Abner, Julian Lennon, Sean Lennon, Steve Winwood, Hank Williams Jr., Roberta Flack, Herb Alpert, Norm N. Nite, Scott Muni, Jerry Lee Lewis, Jerry Wexler, Robert Palmer

ACTORS WHO HAVE GIVEN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECHES

01. Billy Crystal for Milt Gabler in 1993
02. Robert Townsend for The Dells in 2004
03. Tom Hanks for The Dave Clark Five in 2008
04. Chris Rock for Red Hot Chili Peppers in 2012

ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME IN THE SAME YEAR

01. 1986 - Chuck Berry
02. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
03. 1999 - Bruce Springsteen
04. 2000 - James Taylor
05. 2010 - Jesse Stone
06. 2011 - Leon Russell

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.15.12 @ 12:13pm


Why does it bother the Rock Hall to induct every member of a certain group into the hall of fame? Why is it such a big deal? Why can't they just induct everybody? Who cares?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.22.12 @ 07:59am


Why does it bother the Rock Hall to induct every member of a certain group? ~Roy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Roy, first, thanks for your "spin" on The Spinners. I love the group, and think they will get into the Hall, but don't really know who is who. I think it is important to select only members of a group who were part of the climb and/or onboard at the groups' peak. Lots of groups (dare I mention Chicago?) have members who came later and basically rode the coattails of the groups earlier success. ICO The Spinners, I think there must be at least 6 who would be considered indisputable.

Posted by telarock on Wednesday, 08.22.12 @ 13:30pm


HORN PLAYERS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987 Louis Jordan
02. 1990 Louis Armstrong
03. 1993 Jerry Martini (Sly & The Family Stone)
04. 1993 Cynthia Robinson (Sly & The Family Stone)
05. 2000 King Curtis
06. 2000 Andrew Woolfolk (Earth, Wind & Fire)
07. 2002 Isaac Hayes
08. 2003 Steve Douglas
09. 2006 Herb Alpert
10. 2006 Miles Davis
11. 2008 Denis Payton (The Dave Clark Five)
12. 2012 Joey D’Ambrosio (The Comets)
13. 2012 Rudy Pompilli (The Comets)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.8.12 @ 20:42pm


this list like any other is an opion and I think pearl jam should be on it like I said. List are baised on opion so I'm going to give y'all some facts pearl jam has 9 studio albums all of them have dabute in the top 5 on billbord there scond album vs was the fasted alubm to sell a millon copies at the time now I think it sit at 16 but I'm not for sure on that I can't place the year but there was voted by fan not critces as the gretest American rock band of all time I think it was the usa today compiled the list o and I don know if any of y'all have xm raido rolling stone must not cause pearl jam is one the few artist that have there own Chanel on there and I also belev the rolling stone had them as the 10th over all live act of all time but like I wort earlyer a list is just a matter of opion one more quick fact about the band that I'm pretty sure I'm right about. They have somewhere around 60 millon albums sold

Posted by mog on Friday, 10.12.12 @ 11:31am


"Some (like Nirvana), well let's just say I would be interested in knowing if people will still be talking about them 25 years from now."

Yeah man, people are only still talking about them 23 years later, it's such a stretch that people will talk about nirvana 48 years afterwards.

You sound very out of touch with an entire generation of music listeners.

Posted by Cooljerk on Friday, 10.26.12 @ 16:31pm


Here's my "immortals" list (compiled with not much thought in under 5 min)

Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Al Green, Ray Charles, Elvis, Miles Davis, Nina Simone, Sinatra, Pink Floyd, Clapton, Hendrix, Beatles, Dylan, The Who, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Kiss, Prince, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Van Halen, Metallica, Nine Inch Nails, NWA, Tiesto, Skrillex and that one guy that shot himself from the 90's.

Posted by Steve on Wednesday, 10.31.12 @ 15:47pm


Here's my "immortals" list (compiled with not much thought in under 5 min)

Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Al Green, Ray Charles, Elvis, Miles Davis, Nina Simone, Sinatra, Pink Floyd, Clapton, Hendrix, Beatles, Dylan, The Who, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Kiss, Prince, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Van Halen, Metallica, Nine Inch Nails, NWA, Tiesto, Skrillex and that one guy that shot himself from the 90's.

You may object to my selection but what I'm saying is that in 5,000 years when scholars are studying the orgins of music, these names will be brought up. No one will give a flying f@#$ about Alicia Keys, Little Richie or whoever.

Posted by Steve on Wednesday, 10.31.12 @ 15:48pm


Tiesto and Skrillex? I hope you are joking, those two hardly invented their respective genres (to put it lightly), same with Nine Inch Nails...

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 10.31.12 @ 16:03pm


What, no Kraftwerk?

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 10.31.12 @ 17:17pm


"Why does it bother the Rock Hall to induct every member of a certain group?"~Roy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Roy, first, thanks for your "spin" on The Spinners. I love the group, and think they will get into the Hall, but don't really know who is who. I think it is important to select only members of a group who were part of the climb and/or onboard at the groups' peak. Lots of groups (dare I mention Chicago?) have members who came later and basically rode the coattails of the groups earlier success. ICO The Spinners, I think there must be at least 6 who would be considered indisputable."

Here are the members of the Spinners that , IMO, are pretty much shoo-ins for induction, should that ever occur (let's hope so).

1.BOBBY SMITH (the group's main lead singer since it's inception...lead on all of the group's biggest hits...and still it's lead singer today.)

2. PHILLIP WALKER (AKA PHILLIPPE WYNNE) 2nd lead.
lead on many of the group's hits during their '70's heyday.

3. HENRY FAMBOROUGH (baritone-original member)

4. BILLY HENDERSON (tenor-original member)

5. PERVIS JACKSON (MR. "12:45"- bass-original member.

and possibly

6. G.C.CAMERON (lead on several minor hits...and on the group's biggest Motown hit, the smash "IT'S A SHAME"

7. JONATHAN EDWARDS (Wynne's replacement- led on several big hits after Wynne left - including "Cupid/I've Loved You For A Long Time" ,and "Working My Way Back To You/Forgive Me Girl" (Both Top 10 Hits).

To me, these 7 members are essential. Beyond them , it gets kinda iffy.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 11.8.12 @ 20:44pm


http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1128

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME THREAD ON DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.4.12 @ 09:47am


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko (The Band)
02. 1994 - Garth Hudson (The Band)
03. 1994 - Richard Manuel (The Band)
04. 1994 - Robbie Robertson (The Band)
05. 1995 - Neil Young
06. 1997 - Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield)
07. 1997 - Bruce Palmer (Buffalo Springfield)
08. 1997 - Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
09. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
10. 1997 - Gene Cornish (The (Young) Rascals)
11. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
12. 2000 - Zal Yanovsky (The Lovin' Spoonful)
13. 2008 - Leonard Cohen
14. 2013 - Geddy Lee (Rush)
15. 2013 - Alex Lifeson (Rush)
16. 2013 - Neil Peart (Rush)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.11.12 @ 15:41pm


Now that Neil Diamond, Genesis, Alice Cooper and Rush are Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inductees, here is the updated list of the TOP 10 artists who the public complains about the most for not being in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, in no particular order:

01. Mary Wells
02. The Marvelettes
03. Chubby Checker
04. The Monkees
05. Jan and Dean
06. The Moody Blues
07. Deep Purple
08. Linda Ronstadt
09. Chicago
10. Kiss

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.11.12 @ 20:11pm


CANADIANS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1994 - Rick Danko (The Band)
02. 1994 - Garth Hudson (The Band)
03. 1994 - Richard Manuel (The Band)
04. 1994 - Robbie Robertson (The Band)
05. 1995 - Neil Young
05. 1997 - Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield)
06. 1997 - Bruce Palmer (Buffalo Springfield)
07. 1997 - Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield)
08. 1997 - Joni Mitchell
09. 1997 - Gene Cornish (The (Young) Rascals)
10. 1998 - Denny Doherty (The Mamas and the Papas)
11. 2000 - Zal Yanovsky (The Lovin' Spoonful)
12. 2008 - Leonard Cohen
13. 2013 - Geddy Lee (Rush)
14. 2013 - Alex Lifeson (Rush)
15. 2013 - Neil Peart (Rush)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.19.12 @ 07:22am


A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY

01. Mary Wells
02. The Marvelettes
03. Chubby Checker
04. The Monkees
05. Jan and Dean
06. The Moody Blues
07. Deep Purple
08. Linda Ronstadt
09. Chicago
10. Kiss

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.19.12 @ 07:24am


^What about Joy Division/New Order? Or Kraftwerk?

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 12.19.12 @ 10:15am


Roy, a better title for that list would be:

A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY TO MAKE EVERYBODY WHO STOPPED PAYING ATTENTION TO MUSIC IN THE MID-70s HAPPY

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 12.19.12 @ 18:15pm


Roy, you forgot to throw ELO into your 'Induction Ceremony to Make Everyone Happy' post up above.

You want Rick & I to be happy, don't you?

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12.20.12 @ 08:29am


Seeing as how this is the heading for "Immortals", I guess this is where I should write this...


Dear Santa Claus,

How are you doing? I hope you have had a good year so far. This year has been rotten for me, but after such a bad year, I can console myself with knowing that next year will hopefully be better.

Sorry I am writing so late, but the world was supposed to blow up on Dec. 21st, & you know what that does to city services. No doubt this has caused a backlog in your mail, and thus in your toy orders, but with your magic elves working in the shop, I'm sure you folks can handle this situation. I do recommend sending the Mayans a lump of coal, at least for this one year.

Now, on to more pressing matters. What I really need this year is a new television set. I've had the old one since 2003, & being both a sentimental fool and a lazy bum, I procrastinated, even when the thing was sending me signals that the time was right for a change. These days I'm stuck spending over an hour hitting the remote, trying to get the thing to pop on and stay on (it's a tricky process).

Under more general matters, we could use a whole lot of happiness, peace on Earth, some compassion, a better job market (& toss in some compassion there as well). In addition, the Phillies still need a right-handed bat w/some power, so if you could float one their way, that'd be nice as well.

You'll notice that this is the first time I'm writng to you on the Web. The past few years I've attempted to do this "retro" style, to fit in & be cool. Last year I tried to send you my list via paper airplane, but it crashed somewhere over New Jersey. The year prior, I tried to send it via the back of a squirrel, but the squirrel just ate it. This was a precaution against using it as a liner for a bird nest, which the pigeons did three years ago.

Anyhow, merry Christmas to you, Santa Claus. I'll have cookies & milk waiting for you.

Cheesecrop

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 12.23.12 @ 06:33am


I can't believe Fontella Bass doesn't have a page here yet! Rescue Me!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.28.12 @ 16:09pm


STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

THE GROUPS

The Wrecking Crew
The Persuaders
Shep & The Limelights
The Velvelettes
The S.O.S. Band
Billy Vera and the Beaters
Steam
Boys Don't Cry
The Blow Monkeys
Lady Pank
Dog's Eye View
Sister Hazel
Xscape
Zhane

THE MEN

Glenn Gould
Hoyt Axton
John Parr
Paul Carrack
Robert Tepper
Ian Thomas
Paul Hardcastle
Baz Luhrmann
Uncle Kracker

THE WOMEN

Fontella Bass
Millie Jackson
Rebbie Jackson
Evelyn "Champagne" King
Maxine Nightingale
Stephanie Mills
Shannon
Stacey Q
Patrice Rushen
Pia Zadora
Brenda Russell
Brenda K Starr
Jennifer Rush
Vonda Shepard
Oleta Adams
Jann Arden
Tasmin Archer
Billie Myers

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.29.12 @ 08:41am


On Roy's note there are two groups I haven't found a page on here and would appreciate a page being added for each for the next round of additions:

Tindersticks
The Monks

The debut album for Tindersticks came out in 1993, while for the Monks (The garage band consisting of American GIs, not the British group) it was the immortal "Black Monk Time" released in 1965. Thanks in advance FRL!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 12.29.12 @ 13:29pm


Tavares

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.9.13 @ 20:01pm


Should Cheech and Chong be on FRL?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.9.13 @ 20:03pm


Prog Rock in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

1996 Pink Floyd
2010 Genesis
2013 Rush

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.5.13 @ 09:13am


The Mindbenders

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.13.13 @ 19:47pm


Al Jolson

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.18.13 @ 22:48pm


THE CANADIAN MUSIC HALL OF FAME

2013 K.D. Lang
2012 Blue Rodeo
2011 Shania Twain
2010 April Wine
2009 Loverboy
2008 Triumph
2007 Bob Rock
2006 Bryan Adams
2005 The Tragically Hip
2004 Bob Ezrin
2003 Tom Cochrane
2002 Daniel Lanois
2001 Bruce Cockburn
2000 Bruce Fairbairn
1999 Luc Plamondon
1998 David Foster
1997 Lenny Breau
1997 Gil Evans
1997 Maynard Ferguson
1997 Moe Koffman
1997 Rob McConnell
1996 David Clayton-Thomas
1996 Denny Doherty
1996 John Kay
1996 Domenic Troiano
1996 Zal Yanovsky
1995 Buffy Sainte-Marie
1994 Rush
1993 Anne Murray
1992 Ian & Sylvia
1991 Leonard Cohen
1990 Maureen Forrester
1989 The Band
1988 No Inductees
1987 The Guess Who
1986 Gordon Lightfoot
1985 Wilf Carter
1984 The Crewcuts
1984 The Diamonds
1984 The Four Lads
1983 Glenn Gould
1982 Neil Young
1981 Joni Mitchell
1980 Paul Anka
1979 Hank Snow
1978 Guy Lombardo
1978 Oscar Peterson

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.19.13 @ 19:58pm


Where is Rush?

Posted by Ramon on Wednesday, 02.20.13 @ 14:23pm


The Early Influence

Roy Brown
The Ravens
The Clovers
Wynonie Harris
The Mills Brothers
Sister Rosetta Tharpe

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.26.13 @ 06:53am


The new list doesn't surprise me, except that Taylor Swift and Beyonce doesn't belong. That's just my opinion. I'm actually surprised the Black Keys aren't on there!

Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 03.6.13 @ 14:29pm


Alright, so we seem to no longer have the posts ranking the most recent inductees to the side categories...so I'll need everyone to post a ballot again. Simply rank them where you feel they belong on the current list.


My ballot:

Influences (Rock Era):


Karlheinz Stockhausen - #32 (ahead of Ravi Shankar)
Jacques Brel - #34 (#33 + Karlheinz Stockahusen, ahead of Crew Cuts)



Non-Performers (Producers/Engineers):

Glyn Johns - #26 (ahead of Ted Templeman)


Non-Performers (Industry):

Art Rupe - #36 (ahead of Casey Kasem)


Sidemen (Individuals):

Jack Nitzche - #51 (ahead of Rob Sabino)
Philip Paul - #55 (#54 + Jack Nitzche) (ahead of John McLaughlin)



Hopefully, we can get more responses this time and knock that out. The third part of this re-ranking involves adding newly eligible artists to the #302 to 500 list. We will be covering both last fall's class of newbies which consist of the 2027/2028 eligibles, including The Decemberists, LCD Soundsystem and Yeah Yeah Yeahs and the 2028/2029 crop which includes Animal Collective, Arcade Fire and Kanye West.

My proposal is that people can bring forward names from either list and the ones with 5 supporters will be brought forward to the ranking stage where users can place them on the old list, anywhere between #302 and #500.

Posted by Casper on Sunday, 03.17.13 @ 00:32am


STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

THE GROUPS

Tavares
The Del Satins
The Persuaders
Shep & The Limelights
The Velvelettes
The Mindbenders
The S.O.S. Band
Billy Vera and the Beaters
Cheech and Chong
Steam
Boys Don't Cry
The Blow Monkeys
Lady Pank
Dog's Eye View
Sister Hazel
Wet Wet Wet
Technotronic
Uncle Kracker
Xscape
Zhane
Kris Kross

THE MEN

Al Jolson
Glenn Gould
Hoyt Axton
David Geddes
John Parr
Paul Carrack
Robert Tepper
Ian Thomas
Jack Wagner
Patrick Swayze
Paul Hardcastle
Baz Luhrmann

THE WOMEN

Fontella Bass
Millie Jackson
Rebbie Jackson
Evelyn "Champagne" King
Maxine Nightingale
Stephanie Mills
Shannon
Stacey Q
Patrice Rushen
Pia Zadora
Pebbles
Brenda Russell
Brenda K Starr
Jennifer Rush
Vonda Shepard
Oleta Adams
Jann Arden
Tasmin Archer
Billie Myers
Monica
Shanice

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.26.13 @ 13:57pm


STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

etc., etc.,...

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.26.13 @ 13:57pm
--------------------------------------------------
Many artists are still missing from the site.

A month ago, I wrote in and asked for J.D. McPherson to be given a page (spurred a bit by Zach here). There's still nothing.

I suggest simply biding our time on these things. I don't know if theings are such that the Site Admin. can devote a 24/7 schedule to all of this. Eventually everything will fall into place.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03.27.13 @ 06:42am


Here is my list of the 100 greatest artists of all time:

100. Robert Johnson

99. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

98. Joe Cocker

97. Quiet Riot

96. The Rascals

95. Nine Inch Nails

94. Ratt

93. Miles Davis

92. Bad Brains

91. Dave Matthews Band

90. Rod Stewart

89. New York Dolls

88. Steve Perry

87. Frank Zappa

86. Mountain

85. Sonny and Cher

84. R.E.M

83. The Ink Spots

82. Beck

81. Enya

80. Men at Work

79. Whitesnake

78. Smashing Pumpkins

77. Van Halen

76. Louis Armstrong

75. The Easybeats

74. Daryl Hall and John Oates

73. John Mayer

72. The Moddy Blues

71. Eric Clapton

70. Neil Diamond

69. Huey Lewis & The News

68. Kid Rock

67. Hole

66. Al Green

65. The Hollies

64. Massive Attack

63. The Black Crowes

62. Crosby, Stills & Nash

61. Ten Years After

60. Freddie King

59. Alice In Chains

58. Fugees

57. The Kinks

56. 2Pac

55. Big Joe Tuner

54. Thin Lizzy

53. Neil Young

52. Jane's Addiction

51. Yes

50. Bruce Springsteen

49. Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros

48. Wham!

47. John Coltrane

46. De La Soul

45. Foo Fighters

44. Mary Wells

43. Robert Palmer

42. Dusty Springfield

41. Motorhead

40. Styx

39. John Lee Hooker

38. Elvis Costello & The Attractions

37. Angels & Airwaves

36. B.B. King

35. Martha & The Vandellas

34. Kiss

33. Boston

32. John Lenonn

31. Marvin Gaye

30. Hank Willims

29. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

28. AC/DC

27. Foreigner

26. Rage Against the Machine

25. Ray Charles

24. Fleetwood Mac

23. Aerosmith

22. The Four Tops

21. AC/DC

20. Bon Jovi

19. Elvis Presley

18. Sam Cooke

17. Bob Marley

16. U2

15. Jefferson Airplane

14. The Who

13. The Temptations

12. Metallica

11. The Doors

10. Nirvana

9. Led Zepplin

8. Creedence Clearwater Revival

7. Cream

6. The Rolling Stones

5. The Beatles

4. Elton John

3. Journey

2. Rush

1. Billy Joel













Posted by Andrew on Saturday, 03.30.13 @ 21:41pm


Gotta love a list that has Wham! followed by Coltrane.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 03.31.13 @ 08:36am


I might as well share my list.

ZACH'S TOP 100 FAVORITE RECORDING ARTISTS OF ALL TIME

1. Buddy Holly and The Crickets
2. Chuck Berry
3. Louis Jordan
4. David Bowie
5. Pat Benatar
6. Fats Domino
7. The Cars
8. Cab Calloway
9. Nat King Cole/The Nat King Cole Trio
10. Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
11. Little Richard
12. Roxy Music
13. Hank Williams, Sr.
14. Gary Numan/Tubeway Army
15. Huey Lewis & the News
16. Howlin' Wolf
17. Count Basie
18. The Sweet
19. Queen
20. Ray Charles
21. Van Halen
22. Woody Herman
23. Bo Diddley
24. Dean Martin
25. Foreigner
26. Mott the Hoople
27. The Coasters/The Robins
28. Bill Haley & His Comets
29. Benny Goodman
30. Dizzy Gillespie
31. Carl Perkins
32. Donna Summer
33. Willie Nelson
34. Muddy Waters
35. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
36. The Big Bopper
37. John Valby
38. The Go-Go's
39. The Doobie Brothers
40. Glenn Miller
41. Jackie Wilson
42. Prince & the Revolution
43. T. Rex
44. T-Bone Walker
45. Duran Duran
46. Elvis Presley
47. The Stray Cats
48. Jerry Lee Lewis
49. Ian Dury and the Blockheads
50. Hall & Oates
51. Michael Jackson/The Jackson 5
52. Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
53. JD McPherson
54. Roy Orbison
55. Eddie Cochran
56. Al Jolson
57. Louis Armstrong
58. The Waitresses
59. Alice Cooper
60. Judas Priest
61. The Ink Spots
62. Jobriath
63. Elton John
64. Mickey Gilley
65. Scandal
66. The Police
67. The Vince Guaraldi Trio
68. Bill Monroe
69. Sonny Boy Williamson II
70. Lightnin' Hopkins
71. The Art of Noise
72. Billy Ward & the Dominoes
73. Bobby Darin
74. The Charlie Daniels Band
75. Def Leppard
76. George Benson
77. Human League
78. Van Morrison
79. Loverboy
80. Madness
81. Billy Murray
82. Pink Floyd
83. The Platters
84. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
85. Aerosmith
86. Run-D.M.C.
87. Charlie Parker
88. Link Wray
89. Whitesnake
90. Wham!
91. Wanda Jackson
92. The Temptations
93. The Andrews Sisters
94. Aretha Franklin
95. B.B. King
96. The Bee Gees
97. Cyndi Lauper
98. Kenny G (Don't laugh! His funk/disco-influenced material from 1982-1985 is surprisingly good)
99. The Alan Parsons Project
100. Tears for Fears

The top 20 is pretty much etched in stone, but anyone ranked 22-100 may see their stock increase or decrease. New discoveries may crack the top 100. I'll amend this list to reflect any changes, but don't worry about me becoming another Roy. I'm not going to repost this entire list every time I make an alteration.

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 03.31.13 @ 19:53pm


The Masked Marauders

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.6.13 @ 20:44pm


Here is my list of the 100 greatest artists of all time with a few changes:

100. Robert Johnson
99. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
98. Joe Cocker
97. Quiet Riot
96. The Rascals
95. Nine Inch Nails
94. Ratt
93. Miles Davis
92. Bad Brains
91. Dave Matthews Band
90. Rod Stewart
89. New York Dolls
88. Steve Perry
87. Frank Zappa
86. Mountain
85. The Doobie Brothers
84. R.E.M
83. The Ink Spots
82. Beck
81. Enya
80. Coldplay
79. Whitesnake
78. Smashing Pumpkins
77. Van Halen
76. Louis Armstrong
75. The Yardbirds
74. Daryl Hall and John Oates
73. Sly and The Family Stone
72. The Moody Blues
71. Eric Clapton
70. Neil Diamond
69. Huey Lewis & The News
68. Kid Rock
67. Hole
66. Al Green
65. The Hollies
64. Massive Attack
63. The Black Crowes
62. Crosby, Stills & Nash
61. Ten Years After
60. Genesis
59. Alice In Chains
58. Fugees
57. The Kinks
56. 2Pac
55. Big Joe Tuner
54. Thin Lizzy
53. Neil Young
52. Jane's Addiction
51. Yes
50. Bruce Springsteen
49. Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
48. Wham!
47. John Coltrane
46. De La Soul
45. Foo Fighters
44. Mary Wells
43. Robert Palmer
42. Dusty Springfield
41. Motorhead
40. Styx
39. John Lee Hooker
38. Elvis Costello & The Attractions
37. Angels & Airwaves
36. B.B. King
35. Martha & The Vandellas
34. Kiss
33. Boston
32. John Lennon
31. Marvin Gaye
30. Hank Williams
29. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
28. AC/DC
27. Foreigner
26. Adele
25. Ray Charles
24. Fleetwood Mac
23. Aerosmith
22. The Four Tops
21. The Police
20. Bon Jovi
19. Elvis Presley
18. Sam Cooke
17. Bob Marley
16. U2
15. Jefferson Airplane
14. The Who
13. The Temptations
12. Metallica
11. The Doors
10. Nirvana
9. Led Zepplin
8. Creedence Clearwater Revival
7. Cream
6. The Rolling Stones
5. The Beatles
4. Elton John
3. Journey
2. Rush
1. Billy Joel

Posted by Andrew on Sunday, 04.7.13 @ 00:44am


Here's my list of the 100 greatest artists of hard rock:

100. Nine Inch Nails
99. The Clash
98. Kid Rock
97. Black Flag
96. Grand Funk Railroad
95. Cannibal Corpse
94. Bad Brains
93. Jane's Addiction
92. Meat Loaf
91. King's X
90. The Scorpions
89. White Lion
88. Saxon
87. The Runaways
86. Yes
85. Lita Ford
84. Blue Cheer
83. UFO
82. Spinal Tap
81. Foo Fighters
80. Pantera
79. Red Hot Chili Peppers
78. Frank Zappa
77. Iron Butterfly
76. Hole
75. Quiet Riot
74. Fugazi
73. The White Stripes
72. Anthrax
71. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
70. Ratt
69. Slayer
68. Mott The Hoople
67. White Zombie
66. The Pixies
65. Jeff Beck
64. Jetho Tull
63. Peter Frampton
62. W.A.S.P
61. Primus
60. New York Dolls
59. Danzig
58. Asia
57. Green Day
56. Bad English
55. Living Colour
54. Pink Floyd
53. Alice In Chains
52. Billy Idol
51. Pat Benetar
50. Stone Temple Pilots
49. Husker Du
48. Styx
47. Twisted Sister
46. Wishbone Ash
45. The Black Crowes
44. ZZ Top
43. Whitesnake
42. Kansas
41. King Crimson
40. Ozzy Osbroune
39. MC5
38. Sonic Youth
37. Free
36. Lenny Kravitz
35. Queensryche
34. The Damned
33. The Kinks
32. The Doors
31. Avenged Sevenfold
30. Deep Purple
29. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
28. The Yardbirds
27. Metallica
26. Boston
25. Cheap Trick
24. Poison
23. The Stooges
22. Megadeth
21. Bon Jovi
20. Motorhead
19. Def Leppard
18. Steppenwolf
17. Heart
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Mountain
14. Van Halen
13. Alice Cooper
12. Pearl Jam
11. Jimi Hendrix
10. Black Sabbath
9. Aerosmith
8. The Rolling Stones
7. AC/DC
6. The Who
5. Queen
4. Foreigner
3. Cream
2. Journey
1. Rush

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 04.12.13 @ 00:34am


KINGS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 2013 Albert King
02. 2012 Freddie King
03. 2006 Ed King
04. 2000 King Curtis
05. 2000 Nat "King" Cole
06. 1990 Carole King
07. 1988 Ben E. King
08. 1987 B.B. King

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.12.13 @ 06:24am


KINGS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987 B.B. King
02. 1988 Ben E. King
03. 1990 Carole King
04. 2000 Nat "King" Cole
05. 2000 King Curtis
06. 2006 Ed King
07. 2012 Freddie King
08. 2013 Albert King

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.12.13 @ 08:22am


http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20551856,00.html?hpt=hp_t5

Entertainment Weekly's 10 Odd Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Omissions

01. Deep Purple
02. Joe Cocker
03. Eric B. and Rakim
04. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
05. Judas Priest
06. KISS
07. Kraftwerk
08. Chic
09. Bon Jovi
10. The Cars

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.19.13 @ 08:46am


Here's my list of the 100 greatest artists of hard rock with a few changes:

100. Nine Inch Nails
99. The Clash
98. Kid Rock
97. Black Flag
96. Grand Funk Railroad
95. Cannibal Corpse
94. Bad Brains
93. Jane's Addiction
92. Meat Loaf
91. King's X
90. The Scorpions
89. White Lion
88. Saxon
87. The Runaways
86. Yes
85. Lita Ford
84. Blue Cheer
83. UFO
82. Spinal Tap
81. Foo Fighters
80. Pantera
79. Red Hot Chili Peppers
78. Frank Zappa
77. Iron Butterfly
76. Hole
75. Quiet Riot
74. Fugazi
73. The White Stripes
72. Anthrax
71. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
70. Ratt
69. Slayer
68. Mott The Hoople
67. White Zombie
66. The Pixies
65. Jeff Beck
64. Jetho Tull
63. Peter Frampton
62. W.A.S.P
61. Primus
60. New York Dolls
59. Danzig
58. Asia
57. Green Day
56. Soundgarden
55. Living Colour
54. Pink Floyd
53. Alice In Chains
52. Billy Idol
51. Pat Benetar
50. Stone Temple Pilots
49. Husker Du
48. Styx
47. Twisted Sister
46. Wishbone Ash
45. The Black Crowes
44. ZZ Top
43. Whitesnake
42. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
41. King Crimson
40. Ozzy Osbroune
39. MC5
38. Sonic Youth
37. Free
36. Lenny Kravitz
35. Queensryche
34. The Damned
33. The Kinks
32. The Doors
31. Poison
30. Deep Purple
29. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
28. The Yardbirds
27. Megadeth
26. Boston
25. Sex Pistols
24. Metallica
23. Guns N' Roses
22. Pearl Jam
21. Bon Jovi
20. Motorhead
19. Def Leppard
18. Steppenwolf
17. Heart
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Mountain
14. Van Halen
13. Alice Cooper
12. Nirvana
11. Jimi Hendrix
10. Black Sabbath
9. Aerosmith
8. The Rolling Stones
7. AC/DC
6. The Who
5. Queen
4. Foreigner
3. Cream
2. Journey
1. Rush

Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 05.1.13 @ 15:55pm


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane

Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard
Oleta Adams
Jann Arden
Tasmin Archer
Billie Myers
Monica

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 10:17am


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane

Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Monica * Shanice

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 10:19am


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 10:19am

I will believe that when I see it.

Posted by brian on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 11:21am


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 10:19am

Make it final post ever pls?

Posted by GFW on Friday, 05.3.13 @ 13:12pm


Autograph * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.4.13 @ 10:08am


Roy I thought you said that was your final update EVER. What gives?

Posted by brian on Saturday, 05.4.13 @ 11:02am


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * The Vapors

Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Monica * Shanice

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.4.13 @ 19:12pm


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * The Vapors * Autograph * Inner Circle * Swing Out Sister

Glenn Miller * Al Jolson * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Monica * Shanice

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.8.13 @ 14:20pm


Roy, why does Patrick Swayze need a page here? Do you think that anyone here really needs to debate the Rockhall cred of "She's Like the Wind"?

Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 05.8.13 @ 20:36pm


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * The Vapors * Autograph * Inner Circle * Swing Out Sister * Trio

Glenn Miller * Al Jolson * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Monica * Shanice

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.9.13 @ 10:15am


Roy, why does Patrick Swayze need a page here? Do you think that anyone here really needs to debate the Rockhall cred of "She's Like the Wind"?

Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 05.8.13 @ 20:36pm


Yes

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.9.13 @ 10:18am


Final update? But Roy, how we will know when it is June?

Posted by Paul on Thursday, 05.9.13 @ 13:03pm



Roy, why does Patrick Swayze need a page here? Do you think that anyone here really needs to debate the Rockhall cred of "She's Like the Wind"?

Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 05.8.13 @ 20:36pm


Yes
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Posted by GFW on Thursday, 05.9.13 @ 14:24pm


I read a Rolling Stone readers poll called "10 Worst Band in the Ninties" and here's the list in numerical order:

1. Creed
2. Nickleback
3. Limp Bizket
4. Hanson
5. Nirvana
6. Hootie & The Blowfish
7. Bush
8. Spin Doctors
9. Ace of Base
10. The Dave Matthews Band

It seems that the author was shocked and dissatisfied (also the people on the comment section) that Nirvana is on the list. He also mentioned that they will be in the Hall next year. The author seemed to joke that whether "the members of Warrant, Mötley Crüe, Poison and Bang Tango come together to stuff the ballot boxes." Other than Nirvana, the author have a point on some bands on why they should or sholdn't be in the ballot.

You can read the whole on thing on http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-ten-worst-bands-of-the-nineties-20130509

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 05.10.13 @ 22:22pm


Edit: Change "ballot" on the last word at the second paragraph to "list

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 05.10.13 @ 22:40pm


I read a Rolling Stone readers poll called "10 Worst Band in the Ninties" and here's the list in numerical order:

etc., on down...

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 05.10.13 @ 22:22pm
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Remember, this is from a very commercial magazine that wishes to make a buck. They say it's a reader's poll, but it's impossible to know, like any other poll, just how much of it is subjected to any kind of Gerry-mandering, per' se. Your comment on both the author And the people commenting on being shocked that a certain band is on this list says something.

Would this list have gained anyone's attention had that one particular band Not been on the list?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 05.12.13 @ 05:45am


Stevie Wonder has no business in the top 30. Neither does Sam Cooke or Ray Charles.

Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:14pm

Thanks for proving my suspicions about you being a rockist asshole.

If you seriously need an explanation as to why Stevie Wonder, Sam Cooke, and Ray Charles are monumental figures in the development of rock 'n roll and deserving of their rankings (and believe me, soul is a part of rock 'n roll), then you are beyond help. Your username explains your ignorance quite well. I can't stand Rolling Stone, but they got something right for once.

Oh, and those VH1 lists made for some great comedic material. Ranking marginal johnny-come-latelies like Rage Against the Machine, Mariah Carey, Pearl Jam, Jay-Z, and Green Day among the greatest artists, while omitting far more significant names like Louis Armstrong, Hank Williams Sr., Bill Monroe, Billie Holiday, and Buddy Holly, is a total travesty. It's a good thing VH1 isn't considered any kind of credible source, because music criticism would be in much worse shape than it already is.

Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 16:26pm


Oh, and those VH1 lists made for some great comedic material. Ranking marginal johnny-come-latelies like Rage Against the Machine, Mariah Carey, Pearl Jam, Jay-Z, and Green Day among the greatest artists, while omitting far more significant names like Louis Armstrong, Hank Williams Sr., Bill Monroe, Billie Holiday, and Buddy Holly, is a total travesty.

Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 16:26pm
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I'm sorry, warden, but I'm cracking under pressure here.

I love your list of "Johnny-come-Latelies", many of whom have been around for over 20 years now. I'm well aware you don't care for Rage (I can do w/out the lyrics myself, through I appreciate the rock as music element they've got going), but saying Johnny come Lately is foolish here. Same for Mariah Carey & Green Day. I may not care for all of Carey's work, but I at least accord her some respect.

Jay-Z is the only one here whose debut was under 20 yrs. ago, so I guess that's the one you could attach the term to, though in a little while that will cease as well.

W/out a doubt your most hilarious reference to a "Johnny-Come-Lately" is Pearl Jam. PJ, alone amongst these artists, managed to hit #1 (& multiple times, mind you) w/out using music videos. It's notable because it places them at the same level as the older artists you've mentioned, at least in terms of how they acquired their success. Unlike All the artists of the 80's and 90's who were dependent on MTV, PJ did it in exactly he same manner as Armstrong, Williams, Holiday, & Holly.

Guess what - they're still around, too. A modern band, doing it like the "classic" artists, and making it in the modern world. I don't know, does that count in your universe here?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 17:01pm


The Blueprint>>>The Chirping Crickets, lady In Satin and Hank Williams SIngs

cheese you mah nigga

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 17:30pm


The Blueprint>>>The Chirping Crickets, lady In Satin and Hank Williams SIngs

cheese you mah nigga

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 17:30pm

Well, there goes your credibility, GFW.

Also, Jay-Z isn't even 1/10th the artist that Billie Holiday, Buddy Holly, and Hank Williams Sr. are. Popularity aside, he's got nothing on those three in terms of innovation and influence. In the grand scheme of things, Jay-Z is at best a paragraph or two in the book of music. Williams, Holiday, and Holly all open new chapters and continue to permeate the book with their influences. I can assure you that history will remember those three much better and longer, while Lay-Z will be an odd footnote from a time in which music had little taste.

Cheesecrop, I use the term "johnny-come-latelies" to refer to acts who are still relatively recent (late 1980s onwards) and haven't exactly shaken the world of music in meaningful ways. I mean, let's face it, Jay-Z is a dime-a-dozen rapper, Green Day is a juvenile pop punk band, Mariah Carey is a cheap pop tart, RATM is a discordant mess recycling the same anarchist politics as their heroes, and Pearl Jam is a classic rock revivalist act hiding under grunge clothing.

To even think that any of them are on the same scale of importance as Louis Armstrong, who is virtually synonymous with jazz, or Hank Williams Sr., who made an artform out of singing about heartbreak, is absurd. Let's face it, the only musicians/singers/bands that matter in the grand scheme of things are those that changed it or reinvented the game. I realize that some of my favorites aren't among that pack (i.e., Huey Lewis and the News, Dean Martin, The Sweet, Cab Calloway), but that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'll always love Screamin' Jay Hawkins and The Cars, but I'll never pretend that they were as important to music as Sam Cooke and Roxy Music.

The more I think about it, the more I've come to realize how bored I am with most rock 'n roll. Don't get me wrong, I'll always love the 1950s pioneers and some of the post-1960s stuff, but lately I've become more entranced with blues, jazz, and other, pre-1960s forms of music. You can only debate the artistic merits of Pet Sounds and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band for so long before that becomes old hat. I'd rather talk about the greatness of Dizzy Gillespie and Sonny Boy Williamson II, as well as the less notable but still fascinating names like Ahmad Jamal and J.B. Lenoir, than rehash Led Zeppelin's discography.

Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 18:03pm


O.K., I'm torn here. On one hand, I definitely hear where you are coming from in regards to some older artists. I cannot help but notice the Ahmad Jamal reference. I' also thinking that I wish you'd have been here when I was trying to push for Stan Kenton's "Intermission Riff" in the Song Project.

On the other hand, we clearly have two different sets of reference points & ideas about what flies as meaningful. I agree that Carey is a pop tart, & that Rage's politics can get in the way of anything they attempt to do musically. I'm also not necessarily sold on Jay-Z. I will say that they all have had a heavy influence on modern music, and that the notion of what is "meaningful" can easily change over time. Certainly, hip-hop kids would tell you that Jay-Z is meaningful in their world.

Green Day is also quite meaningful to many kids, though in a diff. way. I'll say that Rage, & early Green Day, worked well as rock bands, even if Green Day is more of a pop outfit now.

Pearl Jam also fits here, & here I will disagree slightly w/you on the assumption that they were simply a classic rock outfit in grunge clothing. I think they offered up an excellent take on blues-based rock, which can easily be read as "classic" rock, but at the same time, they in elements of a scene that wasn't necessarily just a re-hash of the 60's & 70's.

Remember, PJ had three straight #1 albums, sans videos. "VS." set a opening wk. sales record that lasted five yrs., & "Vitalogy" beat your favorite band, the Beatles, who's double album "Live At The BBC" could not best them in the fall of 1994. Somebody was being moved by these guys to pull that one off...

btw, I'm going to borrow your 50's ear in relation to Andrew's "Star Wars" musical odyssey for a minute here. If you've been reading, you know what's happening vis' a 'vis "Star Wars". Let me know what you think about this:

We're on the Death Star, at the moment where all the Imperial officers are arguing about the power of the battle station. In the background, we hear the Coasters "Yakety Yak" playing (right around the time that one officer states that "this station is now the ultimate power in the universe"). Vader starts talking about the Force, and the officer gets on his case about not trying to "frighten us w/your sorcerer's ways".

Right at the moment The Coasters are about to fade out, Vader lifts his hand. We hear the lyrics:

"Yakety Yak, Don't Talk Back"...

& then the guy starts clutching at his neck...
& then Vader's voice...

"I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

ask yourself if that isn't timed perfectly! What do you think?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 20:01pm


So let me get this straight. No Fats Domino?...
So the man who single handed created the rock and roll genre is at number 25? not even in the top 20?

IMO, almost every "grandfather" of rock and roll should be filling in the slots between number 30-1.

How come the beatles pop up @ number 1 on every list?
And why is Elvis presley not at #1?
I mean, if you think about it, with out Elvis blowing up the rock and roll genre, we would have no "rock and roll" beat that we have currently, and we would have no beatles or anything else.

Everything pertaining rock and roll/beatles or whatever goes straight back to Elvis making history in the mid 50's...with out him, it would just be sped up blues/country music that would soon die after the 50's.

What about richie valens? yes he had a short as heck career, rest his soul...but I mean man, that guy was amazing.

Why is buddy holly so low on the list? The beatles early recordings were VIRTUALLY BUDDY HOLLY like.


These lists are stupid because they don't give proper respect where proper respect is due.
The beatles leeched off of elvis and buddy holly...There is no such thing as a "beatles sound", that is wholly elvis and buddy holly....if anything, the beatles made it more boring and dry of a sound.


Lists like these are more of "who was marketed and had the most popularity"...I can give you a handful of bands who can out do the beatles. or nirvana, or half the other garbage groups on this list.

Talent seems to take a back seat on rolling stones lists.

Posted by Adrian on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 04:50am


I mean, if you think about it, with out Elvis blowing up the rock and roll genre, we would have no "rock and roll" beat that we have currently, and we would have no beatles or anything else.

Everything pertaining rock and roll/beatles or whatever goes straight back to Elvis making history in the mid 50's...with out him, it would just be sped up blues/country music that would soon die after the 50's.

Posted by Adrian on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 04:50am
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While I agree w/you that no Elvis = no Beatles, we would've had rock & roll, even if Elvis hadn't showed up.

Figure it this way - Haley & his Comets had already hit in 53 w/"Crazy Man, Crazy", the 1st real rock & roll single, before Elvis even showed up. Alan Freed has already been on the airwaves for a bit, & people are tuned in (at least in Cleveland, they are!).

You can assume the majority of the South is tuned in, even if some folks don't like it. When Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc., all come down the pike, they still would've made an impression. Figure that "Rock Around The Clock" is showing up on the big screens courtesy of "The Blackboard Jungle", while James Dean is sitting on the edge of success in the rock film w/out a soundtrack "Rebel Without A Cause". Folks have already commented that Haley was wed to rock via "Jungle", while it was also clear that the same audience checking out "Jungle" was also represented by "Rebel".

Even w/out Elvis, connecting the various dots guarantees that an acknowledgment would've had to have been made by 1956 that some sort of "new scene" had sprung up. Maybe they wouldn't have called it rock & roll right off the bat, but certainly it would've been accepted in retrospect. Had they come up w/the term "rock & roll", circa 1960, histories would've eventually re-cast everything from 55/56 in that same manner - it just would've been a bit before the acknowledgement.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 11:11am


I strongly agree with your comments on these lists, guys.

As far as I can tell, Rolling Stone and VH1 seem to leave a lot of great bands out of these lists. I can't find Kid Rock, Mumford & Sons, UFO, Mountain, Iron Butterfly, Hole, Angels & Airwaves, Foreigner, or Journey on hardly any of them.

There are some performers that are ranked too low like Creedence Clearwater Revival or Billy Joel.

It looks like Rolling Stone tends to focus on the rock groups that they think matter in rock and roll. That is why I've never cared for them or any of those musical snobs.

BTW, fallowing Cheesecrop's example of Star Wars and rock n' roll, I'm going to do one and please let me know what you guys think about this:

We're on Hoth right now and the Imperial AT-ATs are approaching. As the rebel solders prepare for battle, in the background, Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" is playing. As the rebels retreat, the song fades out.

Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 13:22pm


"Jay-Z is a dime-a-dozen rapper"

hahahah oh wait you're serious.

Zach, INFLUENCE DOES NOT LAST FOREVER.

Do you honestly think Billie Holiday, Buddy holly etc... have a larger influence on music TODAY, than Jay Z?

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 15:01pm


"Zach, INFLUENCE DOES NOT LAST FOREVER.

Do you honestly think Billie Holiday, Buddy holly etc... have a larger influence on music TODAY, than Jay Z?"

Are you being serious?

The rapper who has the best chance of being in the annals of the immortals is Tupac Shakur.

At the present, I must concede that Lay-Z has a wider influence on current popular music. That doesn't really matter though as mainstream music has never been more banal than it is right now. Also, musical trends could shift and allow for rockabilly and jazz singing to be at the top of the charts again.

Influence does last forever, even if it is indirect.

Recent female singers who have credited Holiday as an influence include Macy Gray, Amy Winehouse, and Alicia Keys to name some.

Buddy Holly likewise influenced current rockabilly revivalists like JD McPherson and Brian Setzer. So you're completely wrong about their influence not lasting forever.

I still stand by my belief that critics, historians, and music lovers will remember Williams, Holiday, Holly, and their compatriots far longer than today's flavor-of-the-month types.

The National Recording Registry has copies of Billie Holiday's Strange Fruit and Hank Williams Sr.'s Lovesick Blues in their archives. No Buddy Holly recordings are currently in there, but I suspect that void will be filled soon.

Sing it with me, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...

GIVE US MORE OF THE PAST SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY THE PRESENT!

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 15:51pm


You really think pop trends will shift so Rap (which has been very successful for the past 20 or so years) will be disregarded for jazz Singing and Rockabilly, genres that haven't had a real presence on the charts for decades?

Also, Jay-Z is not "flavour of the month", he's been having hits for more than a decade now.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 16:16pm


Twisting my words around, now, aren't you?

I said that popular music trends could change, not that they would change. If the millennials actually cared about music, they'd be buying copies of Billie Holiday and Hank Williams Sr. albums by the truckloads. Thankfully, I'm among the more enlightened millennials who respect the classics and expose them to others.

And you should know that current popularity is no indication of how well music can stand the test of time. Sisqo, The Spin Doctors, Lionel Richie, Peter Paul and Mary, Johnnie Ray, Captain and Tennille, and Lawrence Welk all sold tons of records and were popular in their days, but nowadays you can't give any of their crap away for free. In other words, their music has not stood the test of time, and I don't foresee Lay-Z faring any better.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 17:02pm


I gotta say, even I give more weight to Jay-Z here, & I'm nowhere near a fan.

You say that influence lasts forever, even if it is indirect. Doesn't that mean that the flavor of the month sorts will still have an influence down the road? When I was younger, my buddies & I all laughed at New Kids On The Block, and thought they were a flavor of the month. You know, real music fans listened to Metallica, Faith No More, etc., not that stuff. Yet clearly someone internalized them, or you wouldn't have seen the hordes of boy bands later down the line.

In addition, if your arguing that today's music stinks, yet you're also saying that someone like Holiday influenced Winehouse, Keys, Gray, et. al, doesn't that mean that Billie Holiday is indirectly to blame for music stinking so bad these days?

After all, influence lasts forever... :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 17:11pm


None of those bands got the critical acclaim Jay's gotten.

The Millenials do care about music, just because they don't share your taste doesn't mean they don't care.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 17:43pm


None of those bands got the critical acclaim Jay's gotten.

The Millenials do care about music, just because they don't share your taste doesn't mean they don't care.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 17:43pm

Yeah,I'm on several different sites and most of the Millenials that I know or come across tend to have very strong, diverse and varied taste and opinions.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 18:07pm


Of all people, I never expected you, Cheesecrop, to completely misinterpret what I was trying to say.

Whatever influence that the flavor of the month acts have is entirely negative and minimal. The average shelf life for a boy band is at least 2-3 years. New Kids on the Block were already ancient history by 1992-93, just as NSync and the Backstret Boys were yesterday's news in 2004. Sadly there will always some boy bands, but their impact will be temporary, rather than revolutionary.

Please point where I said that all modern music is worthless. I'll admit that I loathe most of it, but there are still acts out there producing quality music, just not in the mass quantities that there used to be back in the 1950s or 1930s. Just the fact that Billie Holiday is an influence on Gray, Keys, Winehouse, etc, is enough motivation for me to check them out. Generally speaking, if a current singer or band credits a classic singer or band that I love, then that is enough motivation for me to seek them out. In that case, Holiday can be thanked for influencing the few female singers out there who are actually putting out good music and not attempting to be another Ke$ha or Rihanna.

GFW, I don't expect every member of my generation to have the same passion for older music that I do, but I'm certainly not alone. All I ask for is an acknowledgement of the pioneers and how their music has shaped the landscape, rather than foolishly dismissing them as "old people's music." I know quite a few people at my college who can hold their own when discussing Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Fats Domino, Benny Goodman, Ray Charles, Muddy Waters, and others. If you don't know your past, then you won't be able to build the future.

Jay-Z having any kind of critical acclaim is just another sign of how much the standards of music criticism have fallen. He's nothing special anyway.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 18:34pm


I got 99 problems & Zach havin a clue ain't one.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 21:36pm


Come on Zach, I can misinterpret as well as Cheesecrop.

Has all my snark been in vain?!

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 21:55pm


Dear Zach,

Nobody likes or respects you.

Please, zip it tight and go away.

You're dismissed.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 22:47pm


Paul, all your libelous assumptions about my political background need to stop. You know they're not true.

BTW, I didn't even vote in last year's election, so there. Like W.C. Fields once said, "I never voted for anybody. I always voted against"

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 22:49pm


OK, now who's the joker that posted the previous comment signed by Everybody? That has to be some kind of perverse joke on some madman/madwoman's part.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 22:50pm


Dear Zach,

Nobody likes or respects you.

Please, zip it tight and go away.

You're dismissed.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody Else on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 22:54pm


Dear Zach,

Your poetry skills are as weak as your musical knowledge.

You're dismissed.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:06pm


Dear Everybody,

Better than anything your could muster!

My musical knowledge is stellar. I've got well over 5,000 recordings in my library spanning from 1900 - 1990, and it's still growing.

Now please shut up already!

Zach

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:10pm


Make that "Better than anything you could muster"

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:11pm


Dear Zach,

Only you are impressed with you. Everybody else laughs at you.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:21pm


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Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:23pm


Try this instead:

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/middle-finger-9865954.jpg

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:26pm


Dear Zach,

A poem from the whole gang:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
You're dismissed.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:31pm


That was a pitiful, cliched attempt. Mine was at least clever.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 23:54pm



I read a Rolling Stone readers poll called "10 Worst Band in the Ninties" and here's the list in numerical order:

1. Creed
2. Nickleback
3. Limp Bizket
4. Hanson
5. Nirvana
6. Hootie & The Blowfish
7. Bush
8. Spin Doctors
9. Ace of Base
10. The Dave Matthews Band
-----------------------------------------------

Nirvana's place on that list is not that hard to figure out. Rolling Stone has absolutely rammed them down their readers throats for years. Eventually readers react to this. On top of that, music has gone in a different direction. They are from when rock bands still roamed the earth and still got airplay.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 01:21am


Nirvana's place on that list is not that hard to figure out. Rolling Stone has absolutely rammed them down their readers throats for years. Eventually readers react to this. On top of that, music has gone in a different direction. They are from when rock bands still roamed the earth and still got airplay.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 01:21am
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Three things:

1. RS has rammed them down readers throats for yrs. - Point Taken. They Have done just that! :)

2. They'd have been there anyway. As I noted, it guarantees a response. Had they taken an act like Third Eye Blind, or Eve 6, or Semisonic, etc. & stuck them there, you wouldn't have had half the postings on the page I saw.

3. Rock bands still roam the Earth. They're just not getting any airplay. Doesn't mean they don't exist.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 05:57am


Of all people, I never expected you, Cheesecrop, to completely misinterpret what I was trying to say.

Whatever influence that the flavor of the month acts have is entirely negative and minimal. The average shelf life for a boy band is at least 2-3 years. New Kids on the Block were already ancient history by 1992-93, just as NSync and the Backstret Boys were yesterday's news in 2004. Sadly there will always some boy bands, but their impact will be temporary, rather than revolutionary.

Please point where I said that all modern music is worthless. I'll admit that I loathe most of it, but there are still acts out there producing quality music, just not in the mass quantities that there used to be back in the 1950s or 1930s. Just the fact that Billie Holiday is an influence on Gray, Keys, Winehouse, etc, is enough motivation for me to check them out. etc. etc.

GFW, I don't expect every member of my generation to have the same passion for older music that I do, but I'm certainly not alone. All I ask for is an acknowledgement of the pioneers and how their music has shaped the landscape, rather than foolishly dismissing them as "old people's music." I know quite a few people at my college who can hold their own when discussing Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Fats Domino, Benny Goodman, Ray Charles, Muddy Waters, and others. If you don't know your past, then you won't be able to build the future.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 05.15.13 @ 18:34pm
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Zach, you've been yelling that modern music is worthless for the past six months! Nobody's kidding you when they tell you you're driving them crazy! You may have approached the site w/honorable intentions, but you've unwittingly turned yourself into a quasi-troll (if such a thing is possible).

If anything I did not take your words out of context. Those groups did have an impact, though perhaps one driven more by mercenary greed than anything else. I don't mind admitting it at this point, but when I was staggering around mosh pits in the mid-90's, I never thought I'd see a day when pre-packaged MTV pop acts would be on top again. Maybe it's naïve to admit it, but I'm past the point where admitting this does damage to someone's "reputation" (gasp!).

I was goofin' a bit w/the Billie Hoilday bit & I'm glad you caught that.

Beyond that, I can see where people would be worked up about you here. No one's ever come outright & said this, so I'll be the one to do so. When I read your posts, I get the weird impression that you are outraged that other people at diff. times came along & changed rock to suit there own needs. I get this feeling that you are thinking to yourself "how dare the Beatles & the Stones change rock w/out my permission! This must be stopped!" Thing is, it already happened.

It's the same thing w/your modern views. You note in passing on a prior post that you have thousands of recordings from 1900-1990. I cannot help but feel you have the same impression of post 1990 music. "How dare anyone create anything during my time on Earth, w/out me being able to affect it!" Zach, I'm going to tell you straight out - I'm one of the people who allegedly helped "ruin" music, in your little world.

And I loved doing it!

I didn't do it because I knew I'd run into you down the line. I did it cause I was moved by what I saw & heard at the moment. I love the 50's too, but no matter what you attempt to say or do, someone like Buddy Holly will never affect me the way that a Pearl Jam, or an STP, or a Soundgarden, ever will. It's the way everyone feels here. You yelled at a poster called classicrocker, who isn't here any longer. He felt the same way about the 60's as I feel about the 90's (& to some extent the 80's as well - always liked Tears For Fears/Missing Persons/Simple Minds, etc.). It's like your incensed that rock happened w/out you all these yrs. "No, No, No, make it stop! Make it do what I want it to do!"

It's the reason why the very slogan you keep pitching, about give me more past so I can enjoy the present, doesn't have any legs to stand on. Just now, you say you can build the future w/out knowing about the past. Yet in the very same breath, you are denying the world you want to change here! How on Earth are you going to affect some kind of "change" if you've cut yourself off from the past 23 yrs. of music, while claiming moral superiority over your own peers - who, btw, are creating the modern, active world, as we speak?

Look, what I have to say cannot be fully written out here. I'm taking up way too much space, so I'll cut off here. I think I've crystallized what a lot of folks feel here. Personally, I will always have respect for your love of the 50's. In addition, you'll still notice I did not descent into rudeness or meanness in terms of language.

Just stop, on occasion, & think about how you really sound when you're writing. Cool? :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 07:03am


lol zach cannot even into [img][/img] whatta scrub

look here's an example



it's kitty pryde being better than nearly everyone you like.

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 15:15pm


Coming from a snot-nosed punk who likes Carly Rae Jepsen.

When your tastes in music have matured beyond that shit, I'll consider having a discussion with you. Until then, piss off and don't reply to me.

Posted by Zachary on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 16:56pm


Dear Zach,

Your tantrums are akin to a toddler's. Also, you don't get to decide who posts when and in response to who or what.

Please go away. You add nothing of value.

You're dismissed.

Sincerely,

The Posters of FRL

Posted by Everybody on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 19:00pm


Hey Everybody, after dismissing Zach, do you think that I should be dismissed as well?

Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 21:45pm


As we analyze the phenomenon that is Zach, here is my take. I like Zach the poster. In many ways, he comes across as quite intelligent and knowledgable, and I always applaud anyone carrying the torch for music of days gone by. Zach, of course, frustrates me as well in that he comes across as seeing things in very black and white terms, whereas the world is really shades of grey. He will make very smart comments about 50's-era music, but then try and overstate his points by foolishly dismissing The Beatles, or entire other eras.

Look, on a personal level, I would rather listen to The Kinks, The Who or even The Stones over The Beatles almost any day of the week. But as a music historian, I would be a fool to not be able to see and understand how The Beatles changed rock and roll music. In Zach's laudable crusades, he then untercuts his credibility in dismissing objective fact. It would be like in an argument to prove that Stravinsky has been overlooked, you call Mozart a hack.

All that being said, I hope Zach sticks around keeps fighting the good fight. This place is more fun with these disparate voices. And nothing Zach has said is as bad as Rick Vendl arguing the merits of Buckner & Garcia's 'Pac-Man Fever.' So let's get some perspective here.

Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 00:18am


Hey Everybody, after dismissing Zach, do you think that I should be dismissed as well?

Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 05.16.13 @ 21:45pm
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Nobody needs to be dismissed. If anything, that's the absolute worst way to go about it. In addition, why should you go? Unless you are pulling a Liam & William (two posters from yrs. ago who sounded frighteningly alike), there's no reason why you should be upset. Nobody should feel threatened.

Dez is right when he notes Zach's love of the 50's. Nothing wrong in that. It's good to have disparate voices - just not one's that attempt to completely drown out every other person on the site.

I think Zach desperately wants a place to talk about the 1950's & early 60's music. Two days ago a poster named Adrian brought up the idea of "what would happen if Elvis hadn't shown up?" At the time, I had been engaged in a long discussion w/Enigmaticus, BSLO, Darin RG, & Paul in KY, on Duran Duran/Rush, & prog rock in general. I honestly thought Zach might like the same thing, & tried to use Adrian's posting to launch a little "theoretical" scenario. I thought he might drop a few words on what would've happened by 1965/1970/1975, etc. I thought that this might be what he was looking for.

Dismissing someone would be terrible.

btw - Andrew - remember when I suggested Manfred Mann for the destruction of the Death Star? Save that for a second. In Return of the Jedi, we see the Death Star explode, followed by a shot from the planet Endor, of everyone looking up to see it in the sky. Using a 50's theme, have Jerry Lee's "Great Balls of Fire" kick off the Death Star, & then cut to "Blinded by the Light" when we get to Endor. It's a great double whammy, & a bit of canny mental editing, if I don't say so myself.

one can almost see my head filling to balloon-size... :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 05:51am


I don't intend on leaving this site anytime soon. I emjoy posting commets here and I love reading your guys' responds to those commets. The reason I asked about being dismissed was because I've always liked Zach and what he has to say.

BTW, today is my 21st birthday.

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 13:17pm


I'm just hoping that you guys are still wanting to read the comments that I post on this site.

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 13:33pm


Happy birthday, Andrew. Enjoy your day. And yes, I enjoy reading your posts.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 14:20pm


Naw Andrew man, you're actually cool.

happy birthdy, bro.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 16:46pm


Wow
I think picking on Zach is a shame.. Like many he has lots to say1
I do have a sad note to say Mose Allison will not be doing any more tours.. I guess 65 years on the road is long enough ...I am surprised he has not been nominated...

having said the sad news .................. Let's respect each other,, Zach has the right to say what he feels... He know lots about the 50's ..My goodness heck ,that is where most of the real legends really be...

Posted by Happy on Sunday, 05.19.13 @ 01:04am


Why should Zach be respected when he obviously doesn't respect others whose views differ from his? This is what gives the internet a bad name when we condone behavior that we wouldn't tolerate in person. This just serves to enable the mentally unstable with their superiority complexes to abuse other innocent people the minute they disagree with them under the cloak of anonymity. Who are we trying to kid? In real world situations calling somebody an a***ole for expressing views that don't agree with ours sure as hell warrants dismissal. Try doing that in a courtroom, a classroom, or in the workplace if you don't believe me.

Posted by Not the Administrator on Tuesday, 05.21.13 @ 19:45pm


Four members of King Crimson have a shot at double inductions!

Non-Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees who will most likely be the next two-time inductees:

01. Ian McDonald (guitar, saxophone; King Crimson, Foreigner)
02. Greg Lake (vocals, bass guitar; King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer)
03. Bill Bruford (drums; Yes, King Crimson)
04. Patrick Moraz (keyboards; Yes, The Moody Blues)
05. Dave Pegg (bass; Fairport Convention, Jethro Tull)
06. Boz Burrell (vocals, bass; Bad Company, King Crimson)
07. Denny Laine (guitar, vocals; The Moody Blues, Wings)
08. Aynsley Dunbar (drums; Whitesnake, Journey, Jefferson Starship, The Mothers, John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers)
09. Dave Grohl (Nirvana, Foo Fighters)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.23.13 @ 10:37am


FINAL UPDATE FROM ME EVER!

FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS STILL NEEDS PAGES FOR THE FOLLOWING

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Technotronic * Uncle Kracker * Xscape * Zhane * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * The Vapors * Autograph * Inner Circle * Swing Out Sister * Trio

Glenn Miller * Al Jolson * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell * Larry Graham

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Monica * Shanice

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.26.13 @ 10:46am


I've been away from FRL for a few weeks due to several factors (With the weather getting warmer, I don't expect to be online all that much to begin with) but have decided to return to address some posts made in my absence.

Cheesecrop, I've attacked the bulk of modern music, not all of it. I've never made such a blanketed statement like the one you falsely attributed to me. In fact, allow me to name a few post-1990 acts who are favorites of mine:

Norah Jones
Smashing Pumpkins
Nine Inch Nails
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy
J.D. McPherson
The Brian Setzer Orchestra

There's still others who I haven't listed, but that should give you an impression of what I like in music after the 1980s.

"When I read your posts, I get the weird impression that you are outraged that other people at diff. times came along & changed rock to suit there own needs. I get this feeling that you are thinking to yourself "how dare the Beatles & the Stones change rock w/out my permission! This must be stopped!" Thing is, it already happened."

And you would be completely wrong because I, like you and millions of others, am just a fan. None of us posting here have the power to really affect where music will go. Musicians do not need my permission any more than they needs yours or anyone else's to change music. I may not like the directions that rock 'n roll and music in general have taken in recent years, but I don't allow them to stress me out. The truth is, I hardly ever think about The Rolling Stones or The Beatles. I don't deny their importance, it's just that I get tired of seeing their names and wish my generation would be more willing to dig deeper in regards to older music. I don't oppose changes to rock 'n roll, just as long as we all remember the roots and continue to preserve them. God knows I do a lot of that already.

"It's the reason why the very slogan you keep pitching, about give me more past so I can enjoy the present, doesn't have any legs to stand on. Just now, you say you can build the future w/out knowing about the past. Yet in the very same breath, you are denying the world you want to change here! How on Earth are you going to affect some kind of "change" if you've cut yourself off from the past 23 yrs. of music, while claiming moral superiority over your own peers - who, btw, are creating the modern, active world, as we speak?"

I actually didn't create that "give me more of the past, etc." slogan. It came from a member of a wrestling message board I talk to frequently.

Ever since I was a young child, I have preferred most films, singers, and TV shows from the past over contemporary examples. Just as I prefer Cab Calloway to Jay-Z, I like The Marx Brothers better than Judd Apatow's disgraceful comedies and Green Acres better than Modern Family. I'm not going to allow peer pressure to change me. At this point in my life, I am perfectly set in my ways.

If a film or an album comes out and it connects with me deeply, then I'll be the first to sing its praises. Just recently, I saw 42 (the Jackie Robinson biopic) and fell in love with it immediately. It's a well-acted, beautifully told story that can favorably compare with the classics of yesteryear. Even if you're not a baseball fan, I still recommend it highly.

The past 23 years just don't offer the quantity and quality of what came between 1900-1990. What musical movements in the last decade alone can compare favorably with the Jazz Age, the swing era, the British Invasion, rock 'n roll's first golden age, bebop, honky-tonk country, postwar electric blues, rockabilly, the punk/new wave explosion, U.K. glam rock, etc.? I just don't see anything recent (meaning the last five or so years) that can be spoken of in the same breath as Louis Armstrong's Hot Five and Hot Seven Sessions, Elvis Presley's Sun Sessions, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (See Dezmond, I can be objective about The Beatles), or Hank Williams' 1947-1953 run.

Although I'm not very keen on the future of music, I haven't entirely separated myself from discovering the occasional saving grace. When someone like J.D. McPherson comes along, I have to stand up and take notice. But while I enjoy discussing and reading about music, it's not my main passion in life. Movies will always be my first love as far as hobbies go, and as such they occupy more of my time than music.

In case you haven't already noticed, my negative posts sadly attract more attention and response from other FRL posters than my positive, knowledgeable postings do. That's depressing, because I have a lot to share and hate to see my less harsh posts go unanswered. Just hop on over to the Bill Haley page or The Cars page and you'll see evidence of my knowledge and insight.

Now if you'll pardon me, I've got to run to the John Lee Hooker page, as I've been listening to a 2-disc retrospective I picked up from the library. He is just fantastic!

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 06.2.13 @ 23:17pm


Administrator, you're just flat-out wrong. I'll confess to verbally attacking Chalkie, Paul in KY, GFW, and classicrocker. However, if you take the time to read the full discussions, you'll notice that they provoked me first, either by making potentially libelous comments or insulting me. I can generally let such remarks slide by, but when Paul in KY makes thinly-veiled Nazi comments about me (Godwin's Law, anyone?), I can't let them go uncontested. I have to defend my character because there is no reason for keyboard assassins to use their PCs as safe havens to defame others.

" This just serves to enable the mentally unstable with their superiority complexes to abuse other innocent people the minute they disagree with them under the cloak of anonymity."

The last time I checked, I post here under my real name. You're the one using an alias. Now who is the one hiding "under the cloak of anonymity?"

I've had disagreements with Tahvo Parivanen, Cheesecrop, Dezmond, Philip, and other posters without insulting them. You obviously haven't read all of my posts if you seriously believe that nonsense. I do indeed respect opposing viewpoints, but not when they are buttressed by personal attacks.

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 06.2.13 @ 23:30pm


Welcome back, Zach. I've missed reading your commets on this site. Just so you know, I'm posting new commets on the 1986 inductees if you're intrested in reading them. I also turned 21 back in May.

By the way, what are some of your favorite movies?

Posted by Andrew on Sunday, 06.2.13 @ 23:49pm


Happy belated birthday, Andrew! I hope you had a great day.

I'll read your recent comments shortly, as I just logged on to FRL for the first time in nearly three weeks tonight.

Regarding movies, these are some of my all-time favorites. Feel free to share yours!

All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
Monkey Business (1931)
Horse Feathers (1932)
Duck Soup (1933)
King Kong (1933)
It's A Gift (1934)
A Night at the Opera (1935)
A Day at the Races (1937)
Angels with Dirty Faces (1938)
The Bank Dick (1940)
Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1941)
Buck Privates (1941)
Hold That Ghost (1941)
White Heat (1949)
The Stooge (1953)
House of Wax (1953)
Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954)
Gojira/Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1954/1956)
Revenge of the Creature (1955)
The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958)
On the Beach (1959)
North by Northwest (1959)
House of Usher (1960)
The Bellboy (1960)
Mothra (1961)
Gorgo (1961)
The Nutty Professor (1963)
Jason and the Argonauts (1963)
Mothra vs. Godzilla/Godzilla vs. the Thing (1964)
The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971)
Horror Express (1972)
Blacula (1972)
The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1974)
Jaws (1975)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
Smokey and the Bandit (1977)
National Lampoon's Animal House (1978)
The Buddy Holly Story (1978)
Hallowneen (1978)
Piranha (1978)
Alligator (1980)
Humanoids from the Deep (1980)
An American Werewolf in London (1981)
Creepshow (1982)
Porky's (1982)
The Thing (1982)
Gremlins (1984)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Better Off Dead (1985)
The Sure Thing (1985)
Weird Science (1985)
Summer Rental (1985)
One Crazy Summer (1986)
Broadcast News (1987)
Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987)
The Great Outdoors (1988)
Stand and Deliver (1988)
Pumpkinhead (1988)
Uncle Buck (1989)
Dumb and Dumber (1994)
Napoleon Dynamite (2004)
Death at a Funeral (2007)
42 (2013)

Posted by Zach on Monday, 06.3.13 @ 00:18am


The past 23 years just don't offer the quantity and quality of what came between 1900-1990. What musical movements in the last decade alone can compare favorably with the Jazz Age, the swing era, the British Invasion, rock 'n roll's first golden age, bebop, honky-tonk country, postwar electric blues, rockabilly, the punk/new wave explosion, U.K. glam rock, etc.? I just don't see anything recent (meaning the last five or so years) that can be spoken of in the same breath as Louis Armstrong's Hot Five and Hot Seven Sessions, Elvis Presley's Sun Sessions, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (See Dezmond, I can be objective about The Beatles), or Hank Williams' 1947-1953 run.

Although I'm not very keen on the future of music, I haven't entirely separated myself from discovering the occasional saving grace. When someone like J.D. McPherson comes along, I have to stand up and take notice. But while I enjoy discussing and reading about music, it's not my main passion in life. Movies will always be my first love as far as hobbies go, and as such they occupy more of my time than music.

In case you haven't already noticed, my negative posts sadly attract more attention and response from other FRL posters than my positive, knowledgeable postings do. That's depressing, because I have a lot to share and hate to see my less harsh posts go unanswered.

Posted by Zach on Sunday, 06.2.13 @ 23:17pm
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I would humbly disagree w/your assessment of post 1990 music. I would definitely argue in favor of the period from 1991 - 1995 or 96 as being the equivalent, & in some cases, the superior, of some of those prior eras. A whole lot of interesting, outlandish works that never could've seen the light of day in the 1980's, emerged in the wake of Nirvana's "Nevermind" album. In addition, there are plenty of good albums by groups beginning in 1998/99 onwards. It's a hit & miss proposition, but if you're willing to take on the challenge, it's worth it in the end.

When everything went haywire here about two wks. ago, I's been talking w/Enigmaticus, DarinRG, Paul in KY, etc., about theoretical voting patterns for the Rock Hall. I'd hoped to introduce a diff. discussion, using a theoretical, non-Elvis rock world as a starting point. I tried to get it going w/a post that a gentleman named Adrian left, but it would not launch. I'd like to hear your taken on how rock would've gone around 63/64, as the effect of rock & roll wouldn't have been so great. It certainly wouldn't have had the power to reach England as fast w/out Elvis, which would've delayed the Beatles entrance into the musical narrative. If you've a few minutes of down time in the next few days, I ask that you stretch your mind out & imagine a bit. Let me know (provided you wish to pursue this - you may think it trivial in the end).

btw - I love your movie list. I've seen every film you listed from 1930, up till the film "On The Beach". I missed a few others later down the line, but even then, it's not for lack of trying. "The Maltese Falcon" stopped me in my tracks when I first had a chance to see it as a teenager. I have a book that taken up several pages, in terms of how many films I've seen from 1900-1960. I could never print it all here, as it would take up too much space.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 06.3.13 @ 06:39am


Zach, "Administrator" is just a name someone chose to post with and is not the real FRL.

Posted by FRL on Monday, 06.3.13 @ 10:11am


As we analyze the phenomenon that is Zach, here is my take. I like Zach the poster. In many ways, he comes across as quite intelligent and knowledgable, and I always applaud anyone carrying the torch for music of days gone by. Zach, of course, frustrates me as well in that he comes across as seeing things in very black and white terms, whereas the world is really shades of grey. He will make very smart comments about 50's-era music, but then try and overstate his points by foolishly dismissing The Beatles, or entire other eras.

Look, on a personal level, I would rather listen to The Kinks, The Who or even The Stones over The Beatles almost any day of the week. But as a music historian, I would be a fool to not be able to see and understand how The Beatles changed rock and roll music. In Zach's laudable crusades, he then untercuts his credibility in dismissing objective fact. It would be like in an argument to prove that Stravinsky has been overlooked, you call Mozart a hack.

All that being said, I hope Zach sticks around keeps fighting the good fight. This place is more fun with these disparate voices. And nothing Zach has said is as bad as Rick Vendl arguing the merits of Buckner & Garcia's 'Pac-Man Fever.' So let's get some perspective here.

Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 05.17.13 @ 00:18am

As much as I loathe The Beatles, I've never dismissed their contributions to music. I don't know why you continue to insist that I do that.

Part of my dislike of The Beatles stems from their overexposure. To most young people, they are merely a crutch for them to say they like "classic rock" or "their parents' music." This overexposure leads to dozens of equally legendary acts receiving the short end of the stick. Now if it were Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, and The Coasters who were overexposed, I'd complain, but that's not the case.

I'll admit that I once loved The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and most of the other classic rock staples (I've always despised Neil Young, though), but I just got tired of them because their music became boring and I needed something fresh. I eventually rediscovered all the great 1950s rock 'n rollers I was introduced to in my childhood, but more importantly, I discovered tons of artists I never knew about (i.e., J.B. Lenoir, Louis Jordan, Howlin' Wolf, Dale Hawkins, Johnny Burnette and the Rock 'n Roll Trio, etc.). I also began to get heavily into 1970s English glam rock like Sweet, Roxy Music, Mott the Hoople, T. Rex, and of course David Bowie and Queen, as well as a lot of 1980s new wave.

I've never been happier with my tastes in music than I am now, but I'll never allow myself to be totally complacent. I'm always discovering "new" artists through YouTube, library loans, friends, and books/magazines. I just got into jazz pianist/cornetist Bix Beiderbecke and got a CD from the library (I'm a pretty huge jazz fan, BTW).

While 1950s rock 'n roll (including rockabilly, rhythm & blues, doo-wop, and other styles) and blues (Delta, jump, Chicago, piano, etc.), will always remain my preferred genres, that does not mean that I ignore or dismiss other all genres and eras (the exceptions being folk, calypso, gangsta rap, teenybopper bop, nu-metal, and new age. As I mentioned above, I am a humongous 1970s British glam rock and new wave fan. I've also gotten big into a lot of jazz dating from the 1920s up through the 1950s. My collection also contains surf, bluegrass, country-western, (A style I once swore I'd never even like!), some traditional pop, some metal, a little disco, early punk, garage rock/proto-punk, soul, a little rap, and funk, so my musical interests are hardly narrow.

Oh, and Pac-Man Fever ain't that bad a of tune. As a fan of old arcade video games, I always feel like hitting the few remaining arcades in my area to play the classics every time I hear Pac-Man Fever. As with many novelty tunes, it's mostly effective if you're familiar with the subject matter or appreciate it (i.e., The Monster Mash, The Curley Shuffle, Pencil Neck Geek etc.).

Posted by Zach on Saturday, 06.22.13 @ 23:07pm


The ABC's of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions) and future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions):


A is for ABBA, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Animals
B is for Bobby "Blue" Bland, Beatles, Byrds, Band, Blondie, Boston
C is for Charlie Christian, Coasters, Comets, Crickets, Cream, Clash, Chic, Chicago
D is for Dion, Doors, Dells, Donovan, Devo, Derek and the Dominos
E is for Eagles, Eurythmics
F is for Famous Flames, Flamingos, Funkadelic, Foreigner, Free, Foo Fighters
G is for Genesis, Garbage
H is for Hollies, Heart, Hole
I is for Impressions, INXS
J is for Johnnie Johnson, Janis Joplin, Journey
K is for Kinks, KISS, Kansas
L is for Love, Lulu
M is for Monkees, Madness, Meters, Madonna, Metallica, Miracles, Midnighters, Moonglows
N is for Nirvana
O is for Orioles, O'Jays, Oasis
P is for Platters, Parliament, Pretenders, Police, Prince, Pixies
Q is for Queen, Queensryche
R is for Ramones, Ronettes, R.E.M, Rush
S is for Supremes, Shirelles, Soul Stirrers, Staple Singers, Seymour Stein, Santana, Stooges, Styx, Squeeze, Soundgarden
T is for Temptations, Traffic, Television, Them, Turtles
U is for U2, UFO, Utopia
V is for Ventures
W is for Who, War, Wings, WHAM!
X is for X, XTC, XYZ
Y is for Yardbirds, Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.2.13 @ 16:18pm


The ABC's of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions) and future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions):


A is for ABBA, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Animals
B is for Bobby "Blue" Bland, Beatles, Byrds, Band, Blondie, Boston
C is for Charlie Christian, Clovers, Coasters, Comets, Crickets, Cream, Clash, Chic, Chicago
D is for Dion, Doors, Dells, Donovan, Devo, Derek and the Dominos
E is for Eagles, Eurythmics
F is for Famous Flames, Flamingos, Funkadelic, Foreigner, Free, Foo Fighters
G is for Genesis, Garbage
H is for Hollies, Heart, Hole
I is for Impressions, INXS
J is for Johnnie Johnson, Janis Joplin, Journey
K is for Kinks, KISS, Kansas
L is for Love, Lulu
M is for Monkees, Motorhead, Madness, Meters, Madonna, Metallica, Miracles, Midnighters, Moonglows
N is for Nirvana
O is for Orioles, O'Jays, Oasis
P is for Platters, Parliament, Pretenders, Police, Prince, Penguins, Pogues, Pixies, Pantera, Prodigy
Q is for Queen, Queensryche
R is for Ramones, Ronettes, R.E.M, Rush, Ravens
S is for Supremes, Shirelles, Soul Stirrers, Staple Singers, Seymour Stein, Santana, Stooges, Styx, Squeeze, Soundgarden
T is for Temptations, Traffic, Television, Them, Turtles
U is for U2, UFO, Utopia
V is for Ventures
W is for Who, War, Wings, WHAM!
X is for X, XTC, XYZ
Y is for Yardbirds, Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.2.13 @ 16:30pm


The ABC's of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions) and future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions):


A is for ABBA, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Animals
B is for Bobby "Blue" Bland, Beatles, Byrds, Band, Blondie, Boston
C is for Charlie Christian, Clovers, Coasters, Comets, Crickets, Cream, Clash, Chic, Chicago, Cars, Chubby Checker
D is for Dion, Doors, Dells, Donovan, Devo, Derek and the Dominos
E is for Eagles, Eurythmics
F is for Famous Flames, Flamingos, Funkadelic, Foreigner, Free, Foo Fighters
G is for Genesis, Garbage
H is for Hollies, Heart, Hole
I is for Impressions, INXS
J is for Johnnie Johnson, Janis Joplin, Journey
K is for Kinks, KISS, Kansas
L is for Love, Lulu
M is for Monkees, Motorhead, Madness, Meters, Madonna, Metallica, Miracles, Midnighters, Moonglows
N is for Nirvana
O is for Orioles, O'Jays, Oasis
P is for Platters, Parliament, Pretenders, Police, Prince, Penguins, Pogues, Pixies, Pantera, Prodigy
Q is for Queen, Queensryche
R is for Ramones, Ronettes, R.E.M, Rush, Ravens
S is for Supremes, Shirelles, Soul Stirrers, Staple Singers, Seymour Stein, Santana, Stooges, Styx, Squeeze, Soundgarden
T is for Temptations, Traffic, Television, Them, Turtles
U is for U2, UFO, Utopia
V is for Ventures
W is for Who, War, Wings, WHAM!
X is for X, XTC, XYZ
Y is for Yardbirds, Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.2.13 @ 16:48pm


The ABC's of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions) and future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers with one word names (few exceptions):

A is for ABBA, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Animals
B is for Bobby "Blue" Bland, Beatles, Byrds, Band, Blondie, Boston
C is for Charlie Christian, Clovers, Coasters, Comets, Crickets, Cream, Clash, Chic, Chicago, Cars, Chubby Checker
D is for Dion, Doors, Dells, Donovan, Devo, Derek and the Dominos
E is for Eagles, Eurythmics
F is for Famous Flames, Flamingos, Funkadelic, Foreigner, Free, Foo Fighters
G is for Genesis, Garbage
H is for Hollies, Heart, Hole
I is for Impressions, INXS
J is for Johnnie Johnson, Janis Joplin, Journey
K is for Kinks, KISS, Kansas
L is for Love, Lulu
M is for Monkees, Motorhead, Madness, Meters, Madonna, Metallica, Miracles, Midnighters, Moonglows
N is for Nirvana
O is for Orioles, O'Jays, Oasis
P is for Platters, Parliament, Pretenders, Police, Prince, Penguins, Pogues, Pixies, Pantera, Prodigy
Q is for Queen, Queensryche
R is for Ramones, Ronettes, R.E.M, Rush, Ravens
S is for Supremes, Shirelles, Soul Stirrers, Staple Singers, Seymour Stein, Santana, Stooges, Styx, Squeeze, Soundgarden
T is for Temptations, Traffic, Television, Them, Turtles, Troggs
U is for U2, UFO, Utopia
V is for Ventures
W is for Who, War, Wings, WHAM!
X is for X, XTC, XYZ
Y is for Yardbirds, Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 07:02am


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

A is for ABBA
B is for Boston
C is for Chicago
D is for Devo
E is for Eurythmics
F is for Foreigner
G is for Genesis
H is for Hollies
I is for INXS
J is for Journey
K is for KISS
L is for Love
M is for Monkees
N is for Nirvana
O is for Oasis
P is for Pixies
Q is for Queen
R is for Replacements
S is for Smiths
T is for Television
U is for U2
V is for Ventures
W is for War
X is for XTC
Y is for Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 08:41am


The ABC's of Future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers

A is for America
B is for Boston
C is for Chicago
D is for Devo
E is for Eurythmics
F is for Foreigner
G is for Garbage
H is for Hole
I is for INXS
J is for Journey
K is for KISS
L is for Love
M is for Monkees
N is for Nirvana
O is for Oasis
P is for Pixies
Q is for Queensryche
R is for Replacements
S is for Smiths
T is for Television
U is for Usher
V is for Verve
W is for War
X is for XTC
Y is for Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 09:20am


FINAL UPDATE!

STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

THE GROUPS

Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane

THE MEN

Al Jolson * Glenn Miller * Glenn Gould * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * Larry Graham * Morris Albert * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell

THE WOMEN

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Shanice * Monica

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 09:57am


The ABC's of Future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers

A is for America
B is for Boston
C is for Chicago
D is for Devo
E is for Eurythmics
F is for Foreigner
G is for Garbage
H is for Hawkwind
I is for INXS
J is for Journey
K is for KISS
L is for Love
M is for Monkees
N is for Nirvana
O is for Oasis
P is for Pixies
Q is for Queensryche
R is for Replacements
S is for Smiths
T is for Television
U is for Usher
V is for Verve
W is for War
X is for XTC
Y is for Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 10:04am


The ABC's of Future Rock and Roll Hall of Famers

A is for America
B is for Boston
C is for Chicago
D is for Devo
E is for Eurythmics
F is for Foreigner
G is for Garbage
H is for Hole
I is for INXS
J is for Journey
K is for KISS
L is for Love
M is for Monkees
N is for Nirvana
O is for Oasis
P is for Pixies
Q is for Queensryche
R is for Replacements
S is for Smiths
T is for Television
U is for UB40
V is for Verve
W is for War
X is for XTC
Y is for Yes
Z is for Zombies

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:46pm


I guess I'll put this under "The Immortals" since:

A. I can't figure out any other place to put it,

and

B. I guess he fits as the site's first "Immortal" (in more ways than one)


Liam has been knocked out of the Top Ten Voter Comments section. It must've happened a week or two ago, maybe three. He used to have a total of 25-something, but apparently, he only left 16-something in the way of comments. (I believe somewhere in the 1670's).

I note this cause back in the past, that guy seemed to be everywhere on this thing. I never thought anybody could've passed him, much less see him knocked out of the top ten. He was the first guy to really get everyone's attention (in ways good and bad - ha-ha).

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 08.3.13 @ 06:20am


I'm part of the "3000 club", well chuffed.

I'll never beat Roy but he's a robot anyway.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 08.3.13 @ 09:01am


Here's an updated list of my 100 greatest artists of hard rock:

100. Nine Inch Nails
99. The Clash
98. Kid Rock
97. Black Flag
96. Grand Funk Railroad
95. Cannibal Corpse
94. Bad Brains
93. Jane's Addiction
92. Meat Loaf
91. King's X
90. The Scorpions
89. The Ramones
88. Motley Crew
87. The Runaways
86. Yes
85. Lita Ford
84. Blue Cheer
83. UFO
82. Spinal Tap
81. Foo Fighters
80. Pantera
79. Red Hot Chili Peppers
78. Frank Zappa
77. Iron Butterfly
76. Hole
75. Quiet Riot
74. Fugazi
73. The White Stripes
72. Anthrax
71. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
70. Ratt
69. Slayer
68. Mott The Hoople
67. White Zombie
66. The Pixies
65. Jeff Beck
64. Jetho Tull
63. Peter Frampton
62. W.A.S.P
61. Primus
60. New York Dolls
59. Danzig
58. Rage Against The Machine
57. Green Day
56. Soundgarden
55. Living Colour
54. Pink Floyd
53. Alice In Chains
52. Billy Idol
51. Pat Benetar
50. Stone Temple Pilots
49. Husker Du
48. Styx
47. Twisted Sister
46. Wishbone Ash
45. The Black Crowes
44. ZZ Top
43. Whitesnake
42. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
41. King Crimson
40. Ozzy Osbroune
39. MC5
38. Sonic Youth
37. Free
36. Lenny Kravitz
35. Queensryche
34. The Damned
33. The Kinks
32. The Doors
31. Poison
30. Deep Purple
29. Bachman-Turner Overdrive
28. The Yardbirds
27. Megadeth
26. Boston
25. Sex Pistols
24. Metallica
23. Guns N' Roses
22. Pearl Jam
21. Bon Jovi
20. Motorhead
19. Def Leppard
18. Steppenwolf
17. Heart
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Mountain
14. Van Halen
13. Alice Cooper
12. Nirvana
11. Jimi Hendrix
10. Black Sabbath
9. Aerosmith
8. The Rolling Stones
7. AC/DC
6. The Who
5. Queen
4. Foreigner
3. Cream
2. Journey
1. Rush

Cheesecrop, I have some more ideas for songs for another animated Disney film:

For Huchback of Notre Dame, I was thinking of having Boston's "Foreplay/Long Time" play as the opening song and having Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" play as Frollo enters the film.

Here are the other songs I'm thinking could go in the film:

"Skylight Pigeon" when Quasimodo is singing about being free.

"Dare to Be Stupid" for The Festival of Fools.

"Alone Again Naturally" for when Quasimodo is walking back to Notre Dame after being humiliated.

"Wind Beneath My Wings" for when Esmeralda is in the cathedral.

"Suite Judy Blue Eyes" for when Quasimodo is singing about Esmeralda.

"I'm Burin' For You" playing when Frollo is singing about lusting after Esmeralda.

"Seek & Destory" for Frollo's rampage through Paris.

"Beat It" playing when Phoebus is fleeing from Frollo's men.

"Light My Fire" for when Frollo is about to burn Esmeralda.

"We're Not Gonna Take It" for the battle scene.

"We Don't Get Fooled Again" for the ending of the film.

If you have any more ideas for this film, just let me know.

Posted by Andrew on Saturday, 08.3.13 @ 20:28pm


Andrew you have the strangest definition of Hard Rock I've ever seen.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 08.4.13 @ 14:49pm


I was going to comment on that, but yours does fine GFW.

Posted by Paul in KY on Sunday, 08.4.13 @ 15:10pm


The Belmonts * Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * James & Bobby Purify * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The Idle Race * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Orion The Hunter * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane

Al Jolson * Glenn Miller * Glenn Gould * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * Larry Graham * Morris Albert * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Shanice * Monica * Dionne Farris

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.13.13 @ 16:21pm


Cheesecrop, I have some more ideas for songs for another animated Disney film:

For Huchback of Notre Dame, I was thinking of having Boston's "Foreplay/Long Time" play as the opening song and having Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" play as Frollo enters the film.

Here are the other songs I'm thinking could go in the film:

"Skylight Pigeon" when Quasimodo is singing about being free.

"Dare to Be Stupid" for The Festival of Fools.

"Alone Again Naturally" for when Quasimodo is walking back to Notre Dame after being humiliated.

"Wind Beneath My Wings" for when Esmeralda is in the cathedral.

"Suite Judy Blue Eyes" for when Quasimodo is singing about Esmeralda.

"I'm Burin' For You" playing when Frollo is singing about lusting after Esmeralda.

"Seek & Destory" for Frollo's rampage through Paris.

"Beat It" playing when Phoebus is fleeing from Frollo's men.

"Light My Fire" for when Frollo is about to burn Esmeralda.

"We're Not Gonna Take It" for the battle scene.

"We Don't Get Fooled Again" for the ending of the film.

If you have any more ideas for this film, just let me know.

By the way, GFW, what do you mean when you say that I have a strange definition of hard rock?

Posted by Andrew on Tuesday, 08.13.13 @ 17:33pm


100. Nine Inch Nails
99. The Clash
98. Kid Rock
97. Black Flag
96. Grand Funk Railroad
95. Cannibal Corpse
94. Bad Brains
93. Jane's Addiction
92. Meat Loaf
91. King's X
90. The Scorpions
89. Ramones
88. Motley Crew
87. The Runaways
86. Yes
85. Lita Ford
84. Blue Cheer
83. UFO
82. Spinal Tap
81. Foo Fighters
80. Pantera
79. Red Hot Chili Peppers
78. Frank Zappa
77. Iron Butterfly
76. Hole
75. Quiet Riot
74. Fugazi
73. The White Stripes
72. Anthrax
71. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
70. Ratt
69. Slayer
68. Mott The Hoople
67. White Zombie
66. The Pixies
65. Jeff Beck
64. Jetho Tull
63. Peter Frampton
62. W.A.S.P
61. Primus
60. New York Dolls
59. Danzig
58. Rage Against The Machine
57. Green Day
56. Soundgarden
55. Living Colour
54. Pink Floyd
53. Alice In Chains
52. Billy Idol
51. Pat Benetar
50. Stone Temple Pilots
49. Husker Du
48. Styx
47. Twisted Sister
46. Wishbone Ash
45. The Black Crowes
44. ZZ Top
43. Whitesnake
42. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
41. King Crimson
40. Ozzy Osbroune
39. MC5
38. Sonic Youth
37. Patti Smith
36. Lenny Kravitz
35. Queensryche
34. The Damned
33. The Kinks
32. The Doors
31. Poison
30. Deep Purple
29. Neil Young & Crazy Horse
28. The Yardbirds
27. Megadeth
26. Boston
25. Sex Pistols
24. Guns N' Roses
23. Motorhead
22. Pearl Jam
21. Bon Jovi
20. Metallica
19. Def Leppard
18. Mountain
17. Heart
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Steppenwolf
14. Van Halen
13. Alice Cooper
12. Nirvana
11. Jimi Hendrix
10. Black Sabbath
9. Aerosmith
8. The Rolling Stones
7. AC/DC
6. The Who
5. Queen
4. Foreigner
3. Cream
2. Journey
1. Rush

Posted by Andrew on Tuesday, 08.13.13 @ 17:41pm


305. Rory Gallagher
304. Alan Parsons Project
303. Louis Jordan
302. The White Stripes
301. Bill Monroe
300. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band
299. Scott Joplin
298. Richie Havens
297. Carole King
296. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps
295. Stevie Nicks
294. Ma Rainey
293. The Faces
292. The Impressions
291. Billy Idol
290. Red Hot Chili Peppers
289. Supertramp
288. Beck
287. Mumford & Sons
286. Bad Brains
285. John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers
284. Wham!
283. Les Paul
282. Dwight Yoakam
281. Tracy Chapman
280. MC5
279. Gordon Lightfoot
278. The Platters
277. Fleet Foxes
276. Joe Walsh
275. Cab Calloway
274. Lenny Kravitz
273. The Supremes
272. De La Soul
271. War
270. John Lee Hooker
269. The Temptations
268. UFO
267. Jeff Beck
266. The Pretenders
265. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
264. Jimmie Rodgers
263. Don Henley
262. Ten Years After
261. Rainbow
260. Massvie Attack
259. Tina Turner
258. Edward Shape & The Magnetic Zeros
257. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
256. Motley Crew
255. Queen Latifah
254. Yellowcard
253. Peter Gabriel
252. Luther Vandross
251. Weezer
250. Frank Sinatra
249. Kid Rock
248. Donna Summer
247. Quiet Riot
246. The Coasters
245. Steve Perry
244. Iron Maiden
243. Curtis Mayfield
242. Lita Ford
241. The Spinners
240. Freddie King
239. Three Dog Night
238. Ritchie Valens
237. Love
236. Steely Dan
235. Garth Brooks
234. Smashing Pumpkins
233. Ringo Starr
232. Tommy James & The Shondells
231. Paul Revere & The Riders
230. Patti Smith
229. Ella Fitzgerald
228. Hole
227. Jimmy Reed
226. The Wallflowers
225. Buck Owens
224. Jim Croce
223. King's X
222. Peter Frampton
221. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention
220. Radiohead
219. Elmore James
218. Bachman-Tuner Overdrive
217. The Clash
216. Men At Work
215. The Drifters
214. Tom Jones
213. Roxy Music
212. Lionel Richie
211. Twisted Sister
210. Robert Palmer
209. Donovan
208. The Go Go's
207. Van Morrison
206. The Pixies
205. Stephen Stills
204. Talking Heads
203. Jefferson Starship
202. The Rascals
201. Etta James
200. Albert King
199. Nine Inch Nails
198. The Guess Who
197. Steve Miller Band
196. W.A.S.P
195. Al Green
194. Kenny Loggins
193. Bruce Hornsby
192. The Lovin' Spoonful
191. Frankie Lymon And The Teenagers
190. Yes
189. The Shirelles
188. Woody Guthrie
187. The Yardbirds
186. Blue Cheer
185. Run D.M.C
184. Big Joe Tuner
183. Tim Hardin
182. King Crimson
181. Willie Dixon
180. Graham Nash
179. Phil Collins
178. Pat Benatar
177. Jimmy Buffett
176. Pink Floyd
175. Iron Butterfly
174. Alice In Chains
173. Sly & The Family Stone
172. John Coltrane
171. Dionne Warwick
170. Green Day
169. The Beastie Boys
168. Bessie Smith
167. Miles Davis
166. Ratt
165. The Bangles
164. John Mayer
163. Tom Waits
162. The Dan Clark Five
161. Sting
160. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
159. Tears For Fears
158. Paul Butterfield Blues Band
157. Styx
156. Ted Nugent
155. The Animals
154. Weird Al Yankovic
153. ZZ Top
152. Celine Dion
151. Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys
150. The Kinks
149. Lyle Lovett
148. Whitesnake
147. Mott The Hoople
146. Blood, Sweat & Tears
145. Marshall Tucker Band
144. The Mamas And The Papas
143. The Small Faces
142. Chicago
141. Allman Brothers Band
140. Grand Funk Railroad
139. Nat "King" Cole
138. KC & The Sunshire Band
137. Little Anthony & The Imperials
136. David Crosby
135. Glen Campbell
134. The Black Crowes
133. Jane's Addiction
132. The Bee Gees
131. Pete Seeger
130. Sarah McLachlan
129. Blondie
128. Soundgarden
127. T-Bone Walker
126. Paul Simon
125. Blue Oyster Cult
124. Ruth Brown
123. John Denver
122. Dan Fogelberg
121. The Ronettes
120. Al Stewart
119. Big Country
118. Muddy Waters
117. Joan Baez
116. Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
115. Jetho Tull
114. David Bowie
113. Bing Crosby
112. Leonard Cohen
111. Enya
110. Adele
109. New York Dolls
108. Bon Jovi
107. Roy Orbison
106. Anthrax
105. Barry White
104. Eddie Cochran
103. Simon & Garfukel
102. Wilson Pickett
101. The Doobie Brothers
100. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
99. Marvin Gaye
98. Joni Mitchell
97. The Velvet Underground
96. Coldplay
95. Howlin' Wolf
94. Angels & Airwaves
93. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
92. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
91. 2Pac
90. Neil Diamond
89. Santana
88. Johnny Cash
87. Buffalo Springfield
86. The Four Tops
85. Megadeth
84. Ozzy Osbourne
83. Elvis Costello & The Attractions
82. Louis Armstrong
81. Aretha Franklin
80. B.B King
79. Rod Stewart
78. The Byrds
77. Otis Redding
76. Joe Cocker
75. Eric Clapton
74. The Grateful Dead
73. The Band
72. Deep Purple
71. The Hollies
70. James Taylor
69. Bo Diddley
68. Eminem
67. The Moody Blues
66. Cream
65. George Harrison
64. Van Halen
63. Paul McCartney
62. Jackson Browne
61. Black Sabbath
60. Stevie Wonder
59. Alice Cooper
58. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. Daryl Hall & John Oates
56. Ray Charles
55. John Lennon
54. James Brown & The Famous Flames
53. Thin Lizzy
52. Pearl Jam
51. Foo Fighters
50. Neil Young & Crazy Horse
49. Jerry Lee Lewis
48. The Police
47. Huey Lewis & The News
46. Sam & Dave
45. Janis Joplin & Big Brother & The Holding Company
44. The Stooges
43. Heart
42. Judas Priest
41. Steve Winwood
40. Def Leppard
39. Guns N' Roses
38. The Four Seasons
37. Elvis Presley
36. Queen
35. Bill Haley & The Comets
34. Little Richard
33. Tom Petty & The Heartbeakers
32. R.E.M
31. Foreigner
30. Lynyrd Skynyrd
29. The Everly Brothers
28. Genesis
27. Fats Domino
26. Motorhead
25. Metallica
24. Nirvana
23. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
22. Electric Light Orchestra
21. Led Zeppelin
20. Mountain
19. Steppenwolf
18. Sam Cooke
17. U2
16. Bob Marley & The Wailers
15. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
14. Jefferson Airplane
13. Fleetwood Mac
12. Robert Johnson
11. The Eagles
10. AC/DC
9. Journey
8. Chuck Berry
7. Aerosmith
6. Creedence Clearwater Revival
5. Elton John
4. The Rolling Stones
3. Rush
2. Billy Joel
1. The Beatles

BTW, Glassman, would it upset you if I join in on the 70s song voting?

Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 08.15.13 @ 00:32am


Andrew-Are are actually almost done with the 70's, but if you want to join in for the 80's which will start on Friday you are more then welcome too!

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 08.15.13 @ 04:24am


I find it hard to fathom that Pink Floyd is not included in the list of immortals.

Posted by islander67 on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 11:07am


Oh my god, you're right!

That's atrocious!

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 13:46pm


They weren't in the 2004 list, but they were in the 2011 list.

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 13:59pm


305. Rory Gallagher
304. Alan Parsons Project
303. Louis Jordan
302. The White Stripes
301. Bill Monroe
300. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band-
299. Scott Joplin
298. Richie Havens
297. Carole King
296. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps
295. Stevie Nicks
294. Ma Rainey
293. The Faces
292. The Impressions
291. Billy Idol
290. Red Hot Chili Peppers
289. Supertramp
288. Beck
287. Mumford & Sons
286. Bad Brains
285. John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers
284. Wham!
283. Les Paul
282. Dwight Yoakam
281. Tracy Chapman
280. MC5
279. Gordon Lightfoot
278. The Platters
277. Fleet Foxes
276. Joe Walsh
275. Cab Calloway
274. Lenny Kravitz
273. The Supremes
272. De La Soul
271. War
270. John Lee Hooker
269. The Temptations
268. UFO
267. Jeff Beck
266. The Pretenders
265. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
264. Jimmie Rodgers
263. Don Henley
262. Ten Years After
261. Rainbow
260. Massvie Attack
259. Tina Turner
258. Edward Shape & The Magnetic Zeros
257. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
256. Motley Crew
255. Queen Latifah
254. Yellowcard
253. Peter Gabriel
252. Luther Vandross
251. Weezer
250. Frank Sinatra
249. Kid Rock
248. Donna Summer
247. Quiet Riot
246. The Coasters
245. Steve Perry
244. Iron Maiden
243. Curtis Mayfield
242. Lita Ford
241. The Spinners
240. Freddie King
239. Three Dog Night
238. Ritchie Valens
237. Love
236. Steely Dan
235. Garth Brooks
234. Smashing Pumpkins
233. Ringo Starr
232. Tommy James & The Shondells
231. Paul Revere & The Riders
230. Patti Smith
229. Ella Fitzgerald
228. Hole
227. Jimmy Reed
226. The Wallflowers
225. Buck Owens
224. Jim Croce
223. King's X
222. Peter Frampton
221. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention
220. Radiohead
219. Elmore James
218. Bachman-Tuner Overdrive
217. The Clash
216. Men At Work
215. The Drifters
214. Tom Jones
213. Roxy Music
212. Lionel Richie
211. Twisted Sister
210. Robert Palmer
209. Donovan
208. The Go Go's
207. Van Morrison
206. The Pixies
205. Stephen Stills
204. Talking Heads
203. Jefferson Starship
202. The Rascals
201. Etta James
200. Albert King
199. Nine Inch Nails
198. The Guess Who
197. Steve Miller Band
196. W.A.S.P
195. Al Green
194. Kenny Loggins
193. Bruce Hornsby
192. The Lovin' Spoonful
191. Frankie Lymon And The Teenagers
190. Yes
189. The Shirelles
188. Woody Guthrie
187. The Yardbirds
186. Blue Cheer
185. Run D.M.C
184. Big Joe Tuner
183. Willie Nelson
182. King Crimson
181. Willie Dixon
180. Graham Nash
179. Phil Collins
178. Pat Benatar
177. Jimmy Buffett
176. Pink Floyd
175. Iron Butterfly
174. Alice In Chains
173. Sly & The Family Stone
172. John Coltrane
171. Dionne Warwick
170. Green Day
169. The Beastie Boys
168. Bessie Smith
167. Miles Davis
166. Ratt
165. The Bangles
164. John Mayer
163. Tom Waits
162. The Dan Clark Five
161. Sting
160. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
159. Tears For Fears
158. Paul Butterfield Blues Band
157. Styx
156. Ted Nugent
155. The Animals
154. Weird Al Yankovic
153. ZZ Top
152. Celine Dion
151. Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys
150. The Kinks
149. Lyle Lovett
148. Whitesnake
147. Mott The Hoople
146. Blood, Sweat & Tears
145. Marshall Tucker Band
144. The Mamas And The Papas
143. The Small Faces
142. Chicago
141. Allman Brothers Band
140. Grand Funk Railroad
139. Nat "King" Cole
138. KC & The Sunshire Band
137. Little Anthony & The Imperials
136. David Crosby
135. Glen Campbell
134. The Black Crowes
133. Jane's Addiction
132. The Bee Gees
131. Pete Seeger
130. Sarah McLachlan
129. Blondie
128. Soundgarden
127. T-Bone Walker
126. Paul Simon
125. Blue Oyster Cult
124. Ruth Brown
123. John Denver
122. Dan Fogelberg
121. The Ronettes
120. Al Stewart
119. Big Country
118. Muddy Waters
117. Joan Baez
116. Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
115. Jetho Tull
114. David Bowie
113. Bing Crosby
112. Leonard Cohen
111. Enya
110. Adele
109. New York Dolls
108. Bon Jovi
107. Roy Orbison
106. Anthrax
105. Barry White
104. Eddie Cochran
103. Simon & Garfukel
102. Wilson Pickett
101. The Doobie Brothers
100. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
99. Marvin Gaye
98. Joni Mitchell
97. The Velvet Underground
96. Coldplay
95. Howlin' Wolf
94. Angels & Airwaves
93. Bob Marley & The Wailers
92. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
91. 2Pac
90. Neil Diamond
89. Santana
88. Johnny Cash
87. Buffalo Springfield
86. The Four Tops
85. Megadeth
84. Ozzy Osbourne
83. Elvis Costello & The Attractions
82. Louis Armstrong
81. Aretha Franklin
80. B.B King
79. Rod Stewart
78. The Byrds
77. Otis Redding
76. Joe Cocker
75. Eric Clapton
74. The Grateful Dead
73. The Band
72. Deep Purple
71. The Hollies
70. James Taylor
69. Bo Diddley
68. Eminem
67. The Moody Blues
66. Motorhead
65. George Harrison
64. Van Halen
63. Paul McCartney
62. Jackson Browne
61. Black Sabbath
60. Stevie Wonder
59. Alice Cooper
58. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. Daryl Hall & John Oates
56. Ray Charles
55. John Lennon
54. James Brown & The Famous Flames
53. Thin Lizzy
52. Pearl Jam
51. Foo Fighters
50. Neil Young & Crazy Horse
49. Jerry Lee Lewis
48. The Police
47. Huey Lewis & The News
46. Sam & Dave
45. Janis Joplin & Big Brother & The Holding Company
44. The Stooges
43. Heart
42. Judas Priest
41. Steve Winwood
40. Def Leppard
39. Guns N' Roses
38. The Four Seasons
37. Elvis Presley
36. Queen
35. Bill Haley & The Comets
34. Little Richard
33. Tom Petty & The Heartbeakers
32. R.E.M
31. Foreigner
30. Lynyrd Skynyrd
29. The Everly Brothers
28. Genesis
27. Fats Domino
26. Mountain
25. Metallica
24. Nirvana
23. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
22. Electric Light Orchestra
21. Led Zeppelin
20. Cream
19. Steppenwolf
18. Sam Cooke
17. U2
16. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
15. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
14. Jefferson Airplane
13. Fleetwood Mac
12. Robert Johnson
11. The Eagles
10. Aerosmith
9. Journey
8. Chuck Berry
7. AC/DC
6. Creedence Clearwater Revival
5. Elton John
4. The Rolling Stones
3. Rush
2. Billy Joel
1. The Beatles

Posted by Andrew on Monday, 08.19.13 @ 23:19pm


STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

The Belmonts * Stone Poneys * Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * James & Bobby Purify * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The Idle Race * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Orion The Hunter * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Dru Hill * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane

Al Jolson * Glenn Miller * Glenn Gould * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * Larry Graham * Morris Albert * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Dupree * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Shanice * Monica * Dionne Farris

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.2.13 @ 22:52pm


http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/herald/obituary.aspx?n=fred-milano&pid=155329429#sthash.tqfJFQIH.dpbs

STILL MISSING ON FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

The Belmonts * Stone Poneys * Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * James & Bobby Purify * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The Idle Race * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Orion The Hunter * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Dru Hill * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane


Roy: I've been trying to get a page on The Belmonts on FRL for a while. I feel kinda bad, because, had I done it earlier, they might have gotten in with the 6 other classic groups last year . I think that the H of F could've just as easily have made it 7...and let The Belmonts in.

There are those here who've said that Dion's solo career merited individual induction...but that, to me , isn't the point. The ever- decreasing- frequency at which deserving 50's acts are getting in these days means that sometimes, the ship only sails ONCE...and maybe never again. The Belmonts should have gone in with Dion. If they wanted to honor him again solo later, all well and good. But ,at LEAST the ENTIRE GROUP would have gotten in .

At the time of original Belmonts member Fred Milano's death,The above article appeared in The Miami Herald.

"There was strife between DiMucci and Belmonts members, who were not pleased when DiMucci was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without them in 1989."


WHY didn't the Hall of Fame correct this ??

Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 09.3.13 @ 09:17am


Dion DiMucci is a close friend of Bruce Springsteen, Steven Van Zandt and the rest of the E Street Band. Do you think they are up to something? The Belmonts and the E Street Band being inducted in the same year and performing together?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.3.13 @ 09:25am


THE MOST NOMINATED ARTISTS FOR THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (5 NOMINATIONS OR MORE)

01. Solomon Burke (Nominated for 10 years; inducted in 2001)

02. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 1993)
02. Duane Eddy (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 1994)
02. Little Willie John (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 1996)
02. Gene Pitney (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 2002)
02. Black Sabbath (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 2006)
02. The Stooges (Nominated for 8 years; inducted in 2010)

03. Lloyd Price (Nominated for 7 years; inducted in 1998)
03. Gene Vincent (Nominated for 7 years; inducted in 1998)
03. Del Shannon (Nominated for 7 years; inducted in 1999)
03. Lynyrd Skynyrd (Nominated for 7 years; inducted in 2006)
03. Patti Smith (Nominated for 7 years; inducted in 2007)
03. Chic (Nominated for 7 years)

04. LaVern Baker (Nominated for 6 years; inducted in 1991)
04. Jimmy Reed (Nominated for 6 years; inducted in 1991)
04. Bobby “Blue” Bland (Nominated for 6 years; inducted in 1992)
04. Ruth Brown (Nominated for 6 years; inducted in 1993)
04. The Moonglows (Nominated for 6 years; inducted in 2000)
04. Chuck Willis (Nominated for 6 years)

05. Hank Ballard (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 1990)
05. Bobby Darin (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 1990)
05. Ike and Tina Turner (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 1991)
05. The Velvet Underground (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 1996)
05. Gladys Knight and the Pips (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 1996)
05. The Flamingos (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 2001)
05. Sex Pistols (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 2006)
05. Donna Summer (Nominated for 5 years; inducted in 2013)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.3.13 @ 19:41pm


The Luv'd Ones

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.3.13 @ 23:09pm


308. Dave Matthews Band- A vibrant multiracial band with a wide instrumental range.
307. Judy Collins- A expressive folk singer.
306. Hank Williams Sr. - Father of contemporary country music.
305. Rory Gallagher- A skilled Irish blues rocker.
304. Alan Parsons Project- A highly concept art rock group.
303. Louis Jordan- The quintessential jump blues band leader and the father of rap.
302. The White Stripes- A musical duo that walked the line between blues rock and art rock.
301. Bill Monroe- The man who invented bluegrass.
300. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band- Influential band who fused free jazz, blues and rock into a highly original style.
299. The Fugees- Rap trio whose blend of reggae and soul took the world by storm in the late 90s.
298. Richie Havens- A singer with imaginative interpretations and highly rhythmic strumming.
297. Carole King- Wove the album "Tapestry," which marked the peak of the singer/songwriter movement.
296. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps- Rockabilly group who defined the greasy-haired sparks of rock n' roll.
295. Stevie Nicks- A talented singer and songwriter with a raspy crooning voice.
294. Ma Rainey- The "Mother of the Blues."
293. The Faces- Boozy and bluesy rock band of the 70s.
292. The Impressions- One of the greatest soul acts ever to walk the earth.
291. Billy Idol- A British punk and new wave icon of the 80s.
290. Red Hot Chili Peppers- California group who mixed rock guitar with funk rhythms.
289. Supertramp- One of the largest prog-rock bands of the 70s.
288. Beck- One of the most inventive singers of the 90s.
287. Mumford & Sons- Blending folksy Americana with an indie slant.
286. Bad Brains- Created a unique style of metal, funk and reggae.
285. John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers- Major British blues-rock band.
284. Wham! - Britain's answer to Hall & Oates.
283. Les Paul- A brilliantly gifted guitarist.
282. Dwight Yoakam- An outspoken and self-assured country singer/songwriter.
281. Tracy Chapman- The most successful folk singer/songwriter of the 80s.
280. MC5- Rock revolutionaries and one of the fathers of punk.
279. Gordon Lightfoot- Canadian singer/songwriter who married folk and pop.
278. The Platters- The leading R&B group of the 50s.
277. Fleet Foxes- Indie folk band with an earthy, harmony-rich sound.
276. Joe Walsh- One of rock's most colorful figures with his skewed humor and guitar chops.
275. Cab Calloway- A flamboyant swing bandleader and a gifted scat singer.
274. Lenny Kravitz- Hendrix-inspired guitarist who brought classic rock into the new millennium.
273. The Supremes- The flagship girl group of Motown.
272. De La Soul- Lyrically keen and idiomatically diverse alternative rappers.
271. War- L.A. group that created a mix of funk, R&B, Latin and rock.
270. John Lee Hooker- The most elemental of the electric blues guitar players
269. The Temptations- One of Motown’s greatest and grittiest vocal groups of all time.
268. UFO- Underrated British heavy metal band.
267. Jeff Beck- The underappreciated guitar master.
266. The Pretenders- Alternative rock group whose melodic, intelligent sound combined punk with new wave.
265. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five- One of the most important rap groups of the 80s.
264. Jimmie Rodgers- The first star of country music.
263. Don Henley- Drummer for the Eagles and a fine solo artist as well.
262. Ten Years After- Hard-rocking British blues-rock band.
261. Rainbow- Early heroes of heavy metal.
260. Massive Attack- A rap group whose mixture of dark rhythms, reverb- laden guitars, and atmospheric samples produced a more laid-back style of rap.
259. Tina Turner- Legendary soul singer and showstopper.
258. Edward Shape & The Magnetic Zeros- A down-home indie folk band.
257. Screamin' Jay Hawkins- The father of shock rock.
256. Motley Crew- Joyfully sleazy 80s glam metal band.
255. Queen Latifah- One of the first politically conscious female rappers.
254. Yellowcard- Successful indie punk band whose usage of the violin sets them apart from other bands.
253. Peter Gabriel- Theatrical leader of Genesis then an experimental pop star in the 80s.
252. Luther Vandross- Velvet-smooth soul singer.
251. Weezer- Alternative rock group who put power pop and melodic metal together.
250. Frank Sinatra- The original teen idol and the definitive crooner.
249. Kid Rock- The self-proclaimed king of the rock-rap-country hybrid.
248. Donna Summer- The seminal voice of disco.
247. Quiet Riot- The first heavy metal band to top the American rock charts.
246. The Coasters- Pioneering R&B act.
245. Steve Perry- Processor of the one of the finest singing voices in all of rock.
244. Iron Maiden- A major contributor to the New Wave of British Heavy Metal.
243. Curtis Mayfield- One of soul’s best singers and one of its most incisive songwriters.
242. Lita Ford- A feisty heavy metal guitar player.
241. The Spinners- Soul troop whose orchestrated arrangements are some of the finest in soul.
240. Freddie King- A blues guitarist with a laid-back voice and a fast-fingered guitar playing technique.
239. Three Dog Night- A 70s group with soulful harmonies.
238. Ritchie Valens- A pioneering Mexican rocker of the 50s.
237. Love- One of the greatest West Coast psychedelic rock bands of the 60s.
236. Steely Dan- Sophisticated, distinctive rock group built around accessible guitar hooks and complex harmonies.
235. Garth Brooks- The wildly successful 90s country artist.
234. Smashing Pumpkins- 90s alternative rock band who fused guitar heavy arena rock with mope rock.
233. Ringo Starr- Charismatic drummer for the Beatles and a fine solo artist.
232. Tommy James & The Shondells- 60s group who took bubblegum pop to a new level.
231. Paul Revere & The Riders- Hard-working American garage-rock band.
230. Patti Smith- A fiercely literate woman punk rocker.
229. Ella Fitzgerald- A unique vocalist mixing scat and jazz.
228. Hole- A alterative rock group who lifted itself out from a giant shadow with great songwriting and an ever-evolving genre of rock.
227. Jimmy Reed- The most popular bluesman of the 50s.
226. The Wallflowers- Thoughtful, straightforward rock band.
225. Buck Owens- Helped return country music to the roadhouses and the honky tonks.
224. Jim Croce- Master of the folk storyteller style.
223. King's X- Respected Texas band that incorporated Beatles-style harmonies, heavy metal and blues riffs with a dash of progressive rock.
222. Peter Frampton- An ace-faced mod guitar player.
221. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention- Creators of radical 60s jazz rock.
220. Radiohead- Achieved iconic rock status in the 90s despite a more experimental direction.
219. Elmore James- One of the greatest slide guitarist in blues history and provided a major link between Delta blues and Chicago blues.
218. The Guess Who- Canadian rockers who dabbled in R&B and blues rock.
217. The Clash- The most accomplished punk rock band of the 70s.
216. Slayer- The early thrash metal band with the least risk of compromise.
215. The Drifters- Honey-voiced giants of doo-wop.
214. Tom Jones- A dynamic crooner.
213. Roxy Music- The quintessential art rock group and cult favorites.
212. Lionel Richie- One of the most popular soul singers, first with the Commodores and then as a solo artist.
211. Twisted Sister- Larger-then-life glam metal band.
210. Robert Palmer- An 80s blue-eyed soul singer.
209. Donovan- The British Bob Dylan and an icon of flower power.
208. The Go Go's- The queens of L.A. new wave.
207. Van Morrison- Soulful Irish singer who combines folk, R&B, rock and jazz, often with a mystic bent.
206. The Pixies- Alternative rock icons who mixed classical pop influences with roaring guitars.
205. Stephen Stills- Framed for his work with two of folk rock’s most successful groups.
204. Talking Heads- One of the finest post-punk bands featuring David Byrne’s manic grooves.
203. Jefferson Starship- The progressive rock successor to Jefferson Airplane.
202. The Rascals- The finest blue-eyed soul group of the 60s.
201. Etta James- A Californian blues belter whose incredible recordings drifted into jazz and soul.
200. Albert King- A blues guitarist renowned for his massive tone and unique way of playing.
199. Nine Inch Nails- Industrial rock’s most popular band.
198. Bachman-Tuner Overdrive- Canadian classic rock heroes.
197. Steve Miller Band- One of the top selling rock acts of the 70s.
196. W.A.S.P- An L.A. theatrical shock rock group.
195. Al Green- The prototypical soul singer and a vocalist who continues to amaze to this day.
194. Kenny Loggins- Soft rock singer/songwriter, guitarist and pianist.
193. Bruce Hornsby- Singer/songwriter and pianist with a breezy, nonchalant style.
192. The Lovin' Spoonful- A well-loved Now York City band with a unique blend of folk, blues and rock and roll.
191. Bad Company- British heavy metal supergroup.
190. Yes- The definitive English progressive rock band with virtuoso playing and gorgeous melodies.
189. The Shirelles- Their blend of soul, doo-wop, and R&B was tremendous for the other girl groups who followed them.
188. Woody Guthrie- A colossal folk singer whose simple, lyrically powerful songs inspired whole generations of singers.
187. The Yardbirds- Adventurous blues-rock band, best known for having Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page in their ranks.
186. Blue Cheer- One of the earliest pioneers of heavy metal.
185. Run D.M.C- The instigators of hardcore rap who injected it into heavy metal.
184. Big Joe Tuner- A powerhouse of a singer and shouter.
183. Willie Nelson- Pioneer of the anti-establishment outlaw image in country music.
182. King Crimson- The definitive early British progressive rock band.
181. Willie Dixon- Legendary Chicago bluesman.
180. Graham Nash- Guitarist, songwriter, and outstanding vocalist for The Hollies and Crosby, Stills & Nash.
179. Phil Collins- Frontman for Genesis in the 80s and a soulful solo artist as well.
178. Pat Benatar- A siren-voiced singer who was adept at defiant anthems and chiming ballads.
177. Solomon Burke- The kingpin of 60s soul music with a wonderful voice.
176. Pink Floyd- One of the most predominant and celebrated progressive and space rock bands of all time and known for superlative musicianship.
175. Iron Butterfly- Californian acid rockers and a defining early band of heavy metal.
174. Alice In Chains- Giants of the grunge movement with Black Sabbath-style riffs and an unconventional vocal style.
173. Sly & The Family Stone- Soul’s first fully integrated group who brought funk to a large audience and laid the groundwork for urban soul and rap.
172. John Coltrane- The supreme icon of jazz in the late 20th century whose transition from a jazz traditionalist to a radical innovator has made him the main stylist of the music.
171. Martha & The Vandellas- One of soul’s finest vocal groups.
170. Green Day- Snotty 90s punk rock revivalists.
169. The Beastie Boys- A trio of punk rappers.
168. Bessie Smith- The greatest female blues singer of all time.
167. Miles Davis- An eternally evolving trumpeter.
166. Ratt- 80s glam metal band who infused their brand of heavy metal with pop hooks
165. The Bangles- Masters of melodic guitar-based rock.
164. John Mayer- A talented guitarist with a post-grunge vocal style.
163. Tom Waits- A neo-beatnik singer and songwriter.
162. The Dave Clark Five- One of the most popular British beat groups in the 60s.
161. Sting- First the frontman for the Police, then a solo artist with a blend of jazz and world music.
160. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts- Hard-edged punk-rock band.
159. Tears For Fears- The most thoughtful and tuneful of any British synth group.
158. Paul Butterfield Blues Band- A Chicago blues-rock group with a gritty blues sound.
157. Styx- The art rock band with high commercial success.
156. Ted Nugent- A powerful guitarist and singer known as the “Motor City Madman.”
155. The Animals- One of the most formidable British blues-rock bands of the 60s.
154. Weird Al Yankovic- The undisputed king of song parodying who has mocked music from new age to rap.
153. ZZ Top- Texas trio specializing in down and dirty blues rock.
152. Celine Dion- Emotional Canadian ballad singer.
151. Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys- The kings of Western country swing.
150. The Kinks- An early highlight of the British Inversion who also started the riff for heavy metal.
149. Lyle Lovett- Highly literate country songwriter and bandleader.
148. Whitesnake- Heavy metal hitmakers.
147. Mott The Hoople- Flamboyant proto-punk icons of the 70s with a nasty fusion of heavy metal and glam rock.
146. Blood, Sweat & Tears- One of the first rock bands who used horns.
145. Marshall Tucker Band- Pioneering southern rock band that combined country, rock, blues and jazz.
144. The Mamas And The Papas- A four-piece folk-rock act whose high harmonies soundtracked the late 60s.
143. The Small Faces- British beat combo who delivered prime R&B and mod songs.
142. Chicago- One of the greatest jazz-rock groups of the 70s.
141. The Allman Brothers Band- The fathers of southern rock in all it’s wild gory.
140. Grand Funk Railroad- Early 70s American heavy metal band.
139. Nat "King" Cole- One of the greatest vocalists on all time and a major figure in jazz piano.
138. KC & The Sunshine Band- Disco-based funk band.
137. David Crosby- A brilliant singer/songwriter with an angelic voice.
136. The Beach Boys- One of the most influential bands of the rock era, purveyors of surf rock and psychedelic pop.
135. Glen Campbell- A former session player who became one of the greatest country artists of the 70s.
134. The Black Crowes- Georgia band who brought the barroom rauch of the Rolling Stones back to the charts in 1989.
133. Jane's Addiction- Innovate alternative rockers that united heavy metal and alternative music.
132. The Bee Gees- Harmony-laden brother act.
131. Pete Seeger- Perhaps the most important figure of the American folk revival.
130. Sarah McLachlan- Canadian singer/songwriter of emotional songs.
129. Blondie- Influential New York new wave group.
128. Soundgarden- Grunge pioneers who took the heavy sludge of metal and combined it with the raw aesthetic of punk.
127. T-Bone Walker- Pioneer of a harder style of the blues.
126. Paul Simon- One of the defining singer/songwriters of his time.
125. Blue Oyster Cult- Seminal 70s heavy metal band whose songs were ambitious in a sensual way.
124. Ruth Brown- A major pioneer of R&B in the 50s and processed a rich singing voice.
123. John Denver- The hitmaking folk singer/songwriter.
122. Boston- Classic 70s rockers with thundering guitar hooks.
121. The Ronettes- Legendary 60s girl group.
120. Linda Ronstadt- The best interpreter among the 70s singer/songwriters.
119. Big Country- Scottish group who incorporated a strong folk and native music influence into their material.
118. Muddy Waters- The giant of postwar Chicago blues.
117. Joan Baez- The world’s most famous female folk singer.
116. Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble- A rocking powerhouse of a band with its lead guitarist giving the blues a burst of momentum.
115. Jetho Tull- Courtly progressive rock band tangled with folk.
114. David Bowie- The mercurial glam rock icon and a figurehead for countless musical movements.
113. Bing Crosby- One of the most popular and influential crooners in music history.
112. Procol Harum- British group with an ability to produce rootsy soulfulness with progressive leanings.
111. Adele- A London singer/songwriter with a soaring voice.
110. Enya- Classically trained Irish pianist with a distinctive voice.
109. New York Dolls- The fathers of glam rock.
108. Bon Jovi- Bridged the gap between heavy metal and arena rock.
107. Roy Orbison- Rockabilly singer with a near-operatic voice and dark broken hearted songs.
106. Anthrax- One of the most innovative thrash metal bands of all time.
105. Barry White- 70s soul artist with salacious ballads.
104. Eddie Cochran- A red hot rock n’ roll guitar picking rebel.
103. Simon & Garfukel- One of the pivotal 60s folk rock acts.
102. Wilson Pickett- A raucous southern soul singer.
101. The Doobie Brothers- Californian rockers who fused soul, rock, and R&B.
100. Emerson, Lake & Palmer- The original progressive rock supergroup of the 70s.
99. Marvin Gaye- Monumentally influential soul singer whose music incorporated political issues, atmospheric arrangements and unified themes.
98. Joni Mitchell- A confessional singer/songwriter regarded as one of the finest of her generation.
97. The Velvet Underground- The quintessential New York bohemian rock group of the 60s who fused art, rock, and poetry into a style that was highly influential.
96. Coldplay- Passionate, heart-rending British rock group whose sweet melodies and swooning lyrics have made them one of the new millennium’s greatest bands.
95. Howlin' Wolf- A furious blues belter with a growling voice.
94. Angels & Airwaves- A band that created more anthemic rock then any other indie group.
93. Bob Marley & The Wailers- A Jamaican band who introduced reggae to the world.
92. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band- A passionate band who married literate songwriting with bar-band rock n’ roll.
91. 2Pac- Highly controversial, but highly influential and talented rapper.
90. Neil Diamond- A suave showman and a versatile singer/songwriter.
89. Santana- Pioneers of Latin jazz rock.
88. Johnny Cash- Equal parts rockabilly rebel, campfire storyteller and outlaw in black, his hearty baritone remains the essence of country.
87. Buffalo Springfield- Short-lived 60s rock band that made a massive impact on the Californian folk-rock scene.
86. The Four Tops- Soulful Motown quartet with delightful four-part-harmonies.
85. Megadeth- One of the most important thrash metal bands whose songs contain social and political messages.
84. Ozzy Osbourne- An instinctive metal showman with a dramatic flair.
83. Elvis Costello & The Attractions- One of the most evocative, innovative and gifted groups of all time.
82. Louis Armstrong- The most important and influential musician in the history of jazz.
81. Aretha Franklin- The undisputed Queen of Soul and owner of one of the most powerful voices in rock n’ roll.
80. B.B King- Highly influential blues guitarist with a soft-fingered style as well as having the longest blues career.
79. Rod Stewart- A flamboyant gravelly-voiced blue-eyed soul singer.
78. The Hollies- One of the leading lights of the first British Invasion, distinguished by their high harmonies and ringing guitars.
77. Otis Redding- One of the greatest soul singers of the 60s.
76. Joe Cocker- Gravel-voiced blue-eyed soul vocalist whose animated live performances have made him a legend.
75. Eric Clapton- A blues-rock guitar legend.
74. The Grateful Dead- Legendary San Francisco psychedelic rock group who went from an LSD-testing jugband to a worldwide counterculture institution.
73. The Band- Bob Dylan’s former backing group who embodied Americana in a way that no one else ever could.
72. Deep Purple- Progressive rock giants who made heavy metal an art form and unleashed some of the finest guitar riffs ever known to rock and roll.
71. The Byrds- Influential L.A. rock band who pioneered folk-rock, psychedelic rock and country-rock with their jangling guitars and angelic harmonies.
70. James Taylor- The archetype for the gentle, inward-looking singer/songwriters of the early 70s.
69. Bo Diddley- Seminal R&B guitarist whose rhythmic attacks and boasting vocals became one of the most overpowering sounds in rock and roll.
68. Eminem- The best selling white rapper of all time, being comical and controversial at the same time.
67. The Moody Blues- 60s progressive mystics who created surreal albums with pseudo-classical glory.
66. Motorhead- Furious speed metal act with breakneck speed and defining volume.
65. George Harrison- Known as the quiet Beatle, he nonetheless had an incredible impression with musical virtuosity, lyrical guitar playing and passionate songs.
64. Van Halen- One of the greatest heavy metal bands of the 80s primarily with the fast guitar fingers of Eddie Van Halen.
63. Paul McCartney- Former Beatle who made up the other half of the greatest songwriting duo in all of rock and roll then launched a solo career with outstanding longevity.
62. Jackson Browne- The folk rock singer/songwriter whose literate lyrics and laid-back music set the style for Californian music during the 70s.
61. Black Sabbath- The embodiment of heavy metal with their overpowering volume, sludgy guitar attacks and horrifying lyrics.
60. Stevie Wonder- A teen soul sensation in the 60s who then explored more musical territory in the 70s.
59. Alice Cooper- Pioneers of heavy metal and masters of shock rock in the early 70s.
58. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles- Legendary Motown group with high tenors and catchy songs.
57. Daryl Hall & John Oates- Blue-eyed soul duo whose smooth take on soul brought them high commercial success.
56. Mountain- Early heavy metal band with a dense, blues-based sound.
55. John Lennon- One of the giants of 60s rock and an adventurous soloist too.
54. James Brown & The Famous Flames- A phenomenal 50s R&B group led by one of the most influential soul singers in rock and roll.
53. Thin Lizzy- One of Ireland’s finest rock bands, distinguished by a twin guitar sound.
52. Foo Fighters- The sequel band to Nirvana who fused heavy guitars and punk sensibilities with delightful melodies.
51. Pearl Jam- The prototypical grunge band with a driving sound and a reputation as one of the hardest working bands in all of rock.
50. Neil Young & Crazy Horse- Eternally restless musical group who touched on every musical style from heavy metal to blues and rockabilly.
49. Jerry Lee Lewis- A prodigy on the boogie-woogie piano who became of one of the great names of 50s rock and roll.
48. The Police- British rock trio with an innovate fusion of rock and reggae, superb songwriting and a unique appeal.
47. Huey Lewis & The News- Mainstream bar band that ruled the 80s with slick, catchy tunes.
46. The Doors- Mystical blues-based rock band centered on the dark poetry and charismatic presence of Jim Morrison.
45. Janis Joplin & Big Brother & The Holding Company- Raw, heavy, hallucinogenic, psychedelic rock band with a belting led singer.
44. The Stooges- Seminal proto-punk band whose simple and vicious music laid the groundwork for a generation of volatile performers.
43. Heart- Seattle rock band led by two sisters who produced some of the most thrilling rock anthems of the 70s and 80s.
42. Judas Priest- One of the most influential heavy metal bands of the 70s and the one responsible for spearheading the New Wave of British Heavy Metal.
41. Steve Winwood- A soulful teenager who explored adventurous territory with Traffic and Blind Faith before settling into a solo career.
40. Def Leppard- Stadium rock perennials whose guitar-driven rock became one of the most imitated styles of heavy metal.
39. Guns N' Roses- One of the greatest and most influential heavy metal band of the 80s and 90s that often displayed a surprising musical diversity.
38. The Four Seasons- New Jersey vocal group who were perennial chart residents during the 60s thanks to the high tenor of Frankie Valli.
37. Elvis Presley- A rock and roll icon whose fusion of R&B, bluegrass and country became the cornerstone of rock.
36. Queen- Larger then life British arena rock band that mastered the art of the rock single and led by the charismatic Freddie Mercury.
35. Bill Haley & The Comets- Chameleonic rockabilly band whose “Rock Around the Clock” singled the beginning of the rock & roll era.
34. Little Richard- The wildest and one of the most influential of all the 50s rock and roll singers.
33. Tom Petty & The Heartbeakers- Heartland rock group whose honest, unpretentious music has made one of America’s greatest rock bands.
32. Lynyrd Skynyrd- The kings of southern rock.
31. Foreigner- Platinum arena rockers with biting anthems and mammoth ballads.
30. Steppenwolf- California acid rockers who fused heavy metal with blues influences.
29. The Everly Brothers- Close harmony masters who formed one of the most artistic rock acts of the 50s and early 60s.
28. Genesis- A seminal British progressive rock band whose classical tangled music became more accessible in the 80s.
27. Fats Domino- A piano-playing giant of R&B and early rock and roll.
26. R.E.M- One of the first alternative rock bands to make a high musical impact and maintained their integrity and their sense of adventure.
25. Metallica- The most consistently innovate thrash metal bands of the 80s and 90s who reinvigorating metal with a fast and fierce sound.
24. Nirvana- Grunge’s unlikely success story that influenced thousands of artists, but ended in tragedy.
23. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band- A gravel-voiced band who whose blend of roots rock and keen songwriting made them a mainstream group.
22. Electric Light Orchestra- Creators of high-tech Beatles-type progressive rock in the 70s.
21. Ray Charles- A brilliant, towering musical figure who through his singing and piano playing invented soul.
20. Cream- The first and greatest psychedelic rock trio and pioneers of heavy metal.
19. Led Zeppelin- One of the most successful and influential bands in all of rock and roll.
18. Sam Cooke- A massive influence on soul, with an incredible singing voice and a smooth delivery that has never been surpassed.
17. U2- Trafficking on big ideas and even bigger sounds, they operated on a grander scale then any other 80s rock group.
16. Buddy Holly & The Crickets- The single most creative forces in early rock and roll.
15. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young- The definitive folk-rock supergroup.
14. Jefferson Airplane- The quintessential San Francisco psychedelic rock group.
13. Fleetwood Mac- A British blues rock group that morphed into the world biggest rock band in the 70s.
12. The Who- An explosive rock group who pioneered progressive rock and heavy metal.
11. The Eagles- One of the best-selling bands of the 70s, first as a country rock band then as a soft rock band.
10. Aerosmith- Boston heavy metal quintet that epitomized decadence and sleaze in the 70s.
9. Journey- Anthemic arena rock group.
8. AC/DC- One of the defining acts of 70s heavy metal characterized by the roaring guitars of the Young brothers and Bon Scott’s searing vocals.
7. Chuck Berry- The prime innovator of rock and roll.
6. Creedence Clearwater Revival- Gritty down-home, playful rockers with echoes of blues and country.
5. Elton John- Soulful British singer who moved from simple piano rock to a glamorous musical star.
4. The Rolling Stones- The primer British rock band for half a century.
3. Rush- Beloved by millions, one of the great progressive rock bands possess an instrumental genus few other rock groups have.
2. Billy Joel- New York City rock pianist whose driving music has gained near-universal appeal.
1. The Beatles- The most influential band in all of rock and roll that blazed several new paths for rock.

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 09.6.13 @ 17:36pm


I just noticed for the first time Rolling Stone's 'New Immortals' list. Having seen it I now want to stab my eyes out. In what universe are Rihanna and Taylor Swift important or iconic artists?!

Posted by Sam on Friday, 09.6.13 @ 17:56pm


I know, Sam. When I saw that list, I just laughed at it. Leave it to Rolling Stone and Jann Banner to come up with another 'New Immortals' list. Taylor Swift is a hack when it comes to song writing, Rihanna is a waste of talent, Beyonce's music is crap, Lady Gaga is a hack too.

Here are the artists that I would put on that list:

Angels & Airwaves
Mumford & Sons
Adele
Yellowcard
The Fleet Foxes
Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
Phish
Arcade Fire
Green Day
Pearl Jam
The White Stripes
Wilco
The Strokes
The Roots

Feel free to share your list too, Sam

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 09.6.13 @ 19:33pm


I just noticed for the first time Rolling Stone's 'New Immortals' list. Having seen it I now want to stab my eyes out. In what universe are Rihanna and Taylor Swift important or iconic artists?!

Posted by Sam on Friday, 09.6.13 @ 17:56pm
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In the universe of boosted subscription rates & New York over-head costs.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 09.7.13 @ 06:29am


The Beautiful Rock N’ Roll by Andrew Miller

Have you ever spent the late afternoon sitting on your poach listening to Jackson Browne’s “Stay?”
Or seen a crowd bang their heads at a Metallica concert?
Did you ever roll down a highway with Deep Purple’s “Highway Star” playing?
Or sing Gordon Lightfoot’s “Wreak of the Edmund Fitzgerald” while sailing on a lake?
Or have you ever rocked out to AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck”?
Or seen a kid walk down the street wearing a Nirvana t-shirt?

Have you ever listened to grunge in Seattle, soul in Detroit, or country and western in Texas?
Have you ever listened to blues in Mississippi, or rap in New York or psychedelic rock in San Francisco?

Did you ever fall asleep to Crosby, Stills and Nash’s “Wooden Ships” playing?
Or, stood on the field at Woodstock and felt the presence of Jimi Hendrix and The Who?
Did you ever feel like running away from home after hearing Bruce Springteen’s “Born To Run” or Creedence Clearwater Revival’s “Traveling Band”?

Or tended to a collection of old Little Richard and Buddy Holly records,
Or heard the thunderous roar of Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” coming out of a stereo speaker?
Have you ever seen the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame or stood at John Lennon’s grave?

Have you ever visited the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale, Mississippi,
Or been to the daddy of all alternative rock festivals in Seattle, Washington?
Or seen U2 open the Superbowl half-time show?

Did you ever see Jimi Hendrix play a rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner”?
Or John Fogerty belt out “Bad Moon Rising”,
Or hear the summer sounds of The Beach Boys drifting out of a Californian radio,
Or dream about becoming a rock star after hearing Chuck Berry’s “Johnny Be Goode”?

Did you ever play “Born To Be Wild” super loud when diving an open stretch of highway?
Or, see Led Zeppelin play an eighteen minute version of “Kashmir”?
Or, marvel at Eddie Van Halen’s rapid fingered guitar strumming?

Did you ever feel like dancing when listening to “Dancing In The Streets”?
Or, ever cried after hearing “Teach Your Children”?
Or, driven with “Running On Empty” playing on the radio?
Have you ever heard the uplifting sound of Angels & Airwaves’ “Secret Crowds”?

Or listen to “Waiting in The Weeds” just as the sun was setting?

Have you ever been to Memphis or New Orleans or Chicago or Cleveland?
Have you ever passed through Manchester, Newcastle, London or Liverpool?
Have you ever seen Sun Studio?
The Experience Music Project?
Or Graceland?

This then is rock n’ roll!
The music people bless with all their hearts
And no PMRC: no teacher;
No government; no religious group;
Neither censorship nor school
Can ever destroy its awesome power
It’s blazing guitars, it’s hard-hitting lyrics
I wanna rock and roll all night!
It’s a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll!
Long live rock!

Posted by Andrew on Monday, 09.16.13 @ 19:56pm


COMING SOON TO FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS

The Belmonts * Stone Poneys * Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * James & Bobby Purify * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The Idle Race * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Orion The Hunter * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * Musical Youth * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Dru Hill * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane

Al Jolson * Glenn Miller * Glenn Gould * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * Larry Graham * Morris Albert * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Dupree * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Shanice * Monica * Dionne Farris

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 16:57pm


Nik Kershaw

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.27.13 @ 08:50am


The Beautiful Rock N’ Roll by Andrew Miller

Have you ever spent the late afternoon sitting on your poach listening to The Eagles’ “New Kid In Town”?
Or seen a crowd bang their heads at a Metallica concert?
Did you ever roll down a highway with Deep Purple’s “Highway Star” playing?
Or sing John Lennon’s “Beautiful Boy” to your child while they’re sleeping?
Or have you ever rocked out to AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck”?
Or seen a kid walk down the street wearing a Nirvana t-shirt?

Have you ever listened to grunge in Seattle, soul in Detroit, or country and western in Texas?
Have you ever listened to blues in Mississippi, or rap in New York or psychedelic rock in San Francisco?

Did you ever fall asleep to Crosby, Stills and Nash’s “Wooden Ships” playing?
Or, stood on the field at Woodstock and felt the presence of Jimi Hendrix and The Who?
Did you ever feel inspired to help others after hearing Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Goin’ On” or “Inner City Blues”?

Or tended to a collection of old Little Richard and Buddy Holly records,
Or heard the thunderous roar of Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” coming out of a stereo speaker?
Have you ever seen the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame or stood at John Lennon’s grave?

Have you ever visited the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale, Mississippi,
Or been to the daddy of all alternative rock festivals in Seattle, Washington?
Or seen U2 open the Superbowl half-time show?

Did you ever see Jimi Hendrix play a rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner”?
Or John Fogerty belt out “Bad Moon Rising”,
Or hear the summer sounds of The Beach Boys drifting out of a Californian radio,
Or dream about becoming a rock star after hearing Chuck Berry’s “Johnny Be Goode”?

Did you ever play “Born To Be Wild” super loud when diving an open stretch of highway?
Or, see Neil Young belt out “Keep on Rockin’ in the Free World”?
Or, marvel at Eddie Van Halen’s rapid fingered guitar strumming?

Did you ever feel like dancing when listening to “Dancing In The Streets”?
Or, ever cried after hearing “Teach Your Children”?
Or, sat in a darkened room and listen to Rush’s “Moving Pictures”?
Have you ever heard the uplifting sound of Angels & Airwaves’ “Secret Crowds”?

Or listen to “Waiting in The Weeds” just as the sun was setting?

Have you ever been to Memphis or New Orleans or Chicago or Cleveland?
Have you ever passed through Manchester, Newcastle, London or Liverpool?
Have you ever seen Sun Studio?
The Experience Music Project?
Or Graceland?

This then is rock n’ roll!
The music people bless with all their hearts
And no PMRC: no teacher;
No government; no religious group;
Neither censorship nor school
Can ever destroy its awesome power
It’s blazing guitars, it’s hard-hitting lyrics
I wanna rock and roll all night!
It’s a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll!
Long live rock!

Posted by Andrew on Monday, 10.7.13 @ 13:47pm


nah but i have gotten pretty turnt listening to some lil b

#05FüCKEM #THANKYOUBASEDGOD #BASEDFAM #BASEDBARROVIANTASKFORCE #PROTECTLILBATALLCOSTS

Posted by GFW on Monday, 10.7.13 @ 17:30pm


Climax Blues Band

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.8.13 @ 23:42pm


Stars on 45

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.8.13 @ 23:46pm


The Belmonts * Stone Poneys * Tavares * The Del Satins * The Persuaders * Shep & The Limelights * James & Bobby Purify * The Velvelettes * The Mindbenders * The Luv'd Ones * The Idle Race * Stars On 45 * The S.O.S. Band * Billy Vera and the Beaters * Cheech and Chong * Steam * Orion The Hunter * Climax Blues Band * Opus * Trio * Boys Don't Cry * The Blow Monkeys * Lady Pank * Dog's Eye View * Deep Blue Something * Sister Hazel * Wet Wet Wet * Swing Out Sister * Technotronic * Autograph * The Vapors * Musical Youth * J.J. Fad * Kris Kross * Uncle Kracker * Inner Circle * Dru Hill * Xscape * XYZ * Zhane

Al Jolson * Glenn Miller * Glenn Gould * Hoyt Axton * David Geddes * Larry Graham * Morris Albert * John Parr * Paul Carrack * Robert Tepper * Ian Thomas * Jack Wagner * Patrick Swayze * Paul Hardcastle * Baz Luhrmann * Patrick Hernandez * Robbie Dupree * Robbie Neville * Tevin Campbell * Nik Kershaw

Fontella Bass * Millie Jackson * Rebbie Jackson * Alicia Bridges * Evelyn "Champagne" King * Maxine Nightingale * Stephanie Mills * Shannon * Stacey Q * Patrice Rushen * Pia Zadora * Pebbles * Brenda Russell * Brenda K Starr * Jennifer Rush * Vonda Shepard * Oleta Adams * Jann Arden * Tasmin Archer * Billie Myers * Shanice * Monica * Dionne Farris

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.9.13 @ 06:17am


I've come to a conclusion. Rock and Roll existed before the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame so it shouldn't matter if some members of bands are left out when their bands are inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It doesn't make them any less of members of the bands if they are not inducted.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.9.13 @ 11:51am


***ARTISTS of the "SOUL TRAIN" ERA***
Ignored by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame:
The Manhattans,The Chi-Lites,The Dramatics, Blue Magic, The Spinners, The Stylistics,The Delfonics, Gene Chandler, Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes,The Intruders, Main Ingredient, Whispers,Barry White,Lou Rawls Chaka Khan & Rufus, Three Degree, Patti LaBelle & The BlueBelles/LaBelle,Dionne Warwick, The Commodores...and DON CORNELIUS !!!

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 10.14.13 @ 01:16am


In a book on the the first 25 years of the RRHOF that I owne, it says that like McCartney and Lennon discovered Little Richard and Elvis Presley, today's generation are discovering artists like U2, Talking Heads and The Doors. What a joke!

Most kids these days would rather listen to Talyor Swift, Lady Gaga, Little Wayne, and Rihanna then Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Rush or The Beatles. Yes, there are still some kids who listen to rock and other forms of music, but for the most part, most teenagers listen to the same pop, country and rap garbage over and over again.

Whenever you say to a teenage girl or boy who is in to Katy Perry or Lady GaGa and you tell them that you listen to Buddy Holly & The Crickets or Chuck Berry, they will call you a dinosuar. In other worlds, your taste in music is out dated according to them.

If you guys are ever encoutered people like that, let me know.

Posted by Andrew on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 01:44am


Rockism is an ugly thing, Andrew dear. Don't fall prey to it.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 13:56pm


Roy you crazy.

Posted by DC on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 15:29pm


GFW, I'm not quite sure what you mean by rockism. Could you go in a little deeper?

Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 10.17.13 @ 20:05pm


Do the immortals get to survive climate change...or do they have to be already long dead and inducted?

Posted by GFY on Saturday, 10.19.13 @ 12:48pm


Thank God my brother and his wife raised my niece on classic rock. She's 17 and cares more about Ozzy, Led Zeppelin, Metallica and Joan Jett than Lady Gaga, Kanye and Lil Wayne. There's hope yet!!!

Posted by avenger280 on Monday, 10.28.13 @ 02:41am


Now I'm aware that my rankings and the artists I picked for this list may have some of you thinking, "What was this kid thinking, putting Michael Jackson so high or putting Pink Floyd so low?", but this is my list in which I picked artists who I think have made a high impact on the world of music.

Not only doses this list highlight the big names in rock n' roll, but it also touches on other genres like jazz, blues, soul, rap, doo wop, folk, country, and alterative.

Here is the list:

740. Bob Dylan
739. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
738. KISS
737. Michael Jackson
736. The Ramones
735. Charlie Parker
734. The Notorious B.I.G.
733. Bette Midler
732. Emmylou Harris
731. Chuck Wills
730. Thelonious Monk
729. Harry Nilsson
728. Whitney Houston
727. Merle Haggard
726. Nick Drake
725. The Monkees
724. Dusty Springfield
723. Eurythmics
722. Peter, Paul & Mary
721. Sufjan Stevens
720. Fela Kuti
719. My Bloody Valentine
718. The Carpenters
717. Pavement
716. The Traveling Wilburys
715. The Smiths
714. Bobby “Blue” Bland
713. Queens of the Stone Age
712. Dexys Midnight Runners
711. Graham Parker
710. The 5th Dimension
709. The Modern Lovers
708. Wyclef Jean
707. Bobby Womack
706. Procol Harum
705. Norah Jones
704. Jerry Butler
703. The Flying Burrito Brothers
702. The Average White Band
701. The J. Geils Band
700. Tammy Wynette
699. The Sir Douglas Quintet
698. The Cult
697. Mitch Ryder
696. K.D. Lang
695. The Neville Brothers
694. Ornette Coleman
693. George Jones
692. White Zombie
691. The Staple Singers
690. Lonnie Donegan
689. Bill Evens
688. Link Wray
687. Dan Fogelberg
686. Adam & The Ants
685. Percy Mayfield
684. Eric Dolphy
683. Sammy Davis Jr.
682. The Commodores
681. The Arctic Monkeys
680. Rufus & Chaka Khan
679. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
678. Bobby Darin
677. Uncle Tupelo
676. Michael Buble
675. Buchanan & Goodman
674. Junior Walker & The All Stars
673. The Stone Roses
672. Dean Martin
671. The B-52s
670. Nancy Sinatra
669. Albert Collins
668. The Pretty Things
667. Disturbed
666. Arcade Fire
665. Jan & Dean
664. Robert Cray
663. America
662. The Dead Kennedys.
661. Edith Piaf
660. Patsy Cline
659. T. Rex
658. Tom Petty
657. Hugh Masekela
656. Al Stewart
655. Barenaked Ladies
654. Nina Simone
653. The Zombies
652. Can
651. LL Cool J.
650. Screaming Trees
649. Sonic Youth
648. X
647. Tony Bennett
646. The Mills Brothers
645. The Jam
644. Brenda Lee
643. Quicksilver Massager Service
642. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
641. The O’Jays
640. Scott Walker
639. New Order
638. Charles Mingus
637. The Strokes
636. Meat Loaf
635. Eddie Lang
634. Michael Bolton
633. Hank Williams III
632. Gladys Knight & The Pips
631. The Clovers
630. Josh Groban
629. Judy Garland
628. Question Mark & The Mysteries
627. Mariah Carey
626. Rage Against The Machine
625. Belle & Sebastian
624. W.C. Handy
623. Boys II Men
622. Dizzy Gillespie
621. Warren Zevon
620. The Flaming Lips
619. Peggy Lee
618. Eric B & Rakim
617. Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
616. Soul Asylum
615. Al Kooper
614. Parliament-Funkadelic
613. Danzig
612. Mississippi John Hurt
611. Laura Nyro
610. Sheryl Crow
609. Patti LaBelle
608. Ziggy Marley
607. The 5 Royales
606. Loverboy
605. Natalie Cole
604. Primus
603. The Cranberries
602. Joe Tex
601. Hank Williams Jr.
600. Sonny Boy Williamson
599. Connie Francis
598. The Chi-Lites
597. Band of Horses
596. The Specials
595. XTC
594. Brian Eno
593. Ry Cooder
592. The Ink Spots
591. Kate Bush
590. The Lumineers
589. Sam & Dave
588. Oasis
587. Depeche Mode
586. Cheap Trick
585. M.C. Hammer
584. Duke Ellington
583. The Afghan Whigs
582. Otis Rush
581. Air Supply
580. Johnny Ace
579. Del Shannon
578. Little Willie John
577. Cat Stevens
576. Black Flag
575. The Replacements
574. The Scorpions
573. TV on the Radio
572. Clyde McPhatter
571. Jimmy Buffet
570. The Cure
569. Sonny Boy Williamson II
568. Alicia Keys
567. Henry Connrick Jr.
566. Jelly Roll Morton
565. Lloyd Price
564. Faith No More
563. The Seeds
562. Shania Twain
561. Janet Jackson
560. The Meters
559. Benny Goodman
558. INXS
557. The Orioles
556. Allen Toussaint
555. The Four Freshmen
554. Melissa Etheridge
553. Blind Melon
552. The Buzzcocks
551. Duran Duran
550. Simple Minds
549. Lou Reed
548. The Kingsmen
547. Sweet
546. Men At Work
545. Professor Longhair
544. Uriah Heep
543. Sean Lennon
542. Bauhaus
541. Nico
540. Buddy Knox
539. Mahavishnu Orchestra
538. Dinah Washington
537. Gene Pitney
536. Lee Morgan
535. Django Reinhardt
534. Todd Rundgren
533. Leon Russell
532. Meat Puppets
531. Yo La Tango
530. Julian Lennon
529. Darlene Love
528. The Birthday Party
527. Madness
526. Suicide
525. Buddy Guy
524. Siouxsie & The Banshees
523. Serge Gainsborug
522. Fairport Convention
521. Wire
520. Chic
519. Adele
518. Cliff Richards & The Shadows
517. Brian Wilson
516. Tom Paxton
515. Billy Squier
514. The Progues
513. Bon Iver
512. Robyn Hitchcock
511. The Ravens
510. Muse
509. Asia
508. Badfinger
507. Gang of Four
506. Dolly Parton
505. The Move
504. The Fall
503. Cage The Elephant
502. Kool & The Gang
501. The Corrs
500. Lee “Scratch” Perry
499. Roseanne Cash
498. Toots & The Maytals
497. Cher
496. Johnny Otis
495. Fiona Apple
494. Jacques Brel
493. Ennio Morricone
492. Blur
491. Kraftwerk
490. Sex Pistols
489. Lauryn Hill
488. The Jesus & Mary Chain
487. Pulp
486. Gram Parsons
485. The Dominoes
484. Olivia Newton-John
483. The Marvelettes
482. Dion & The Belmonts
481. Elliot Smith
480. System Of A Down
479. Neutral Milk Hotel.
478. Cyndi Lauper
477. Happy Mondays
476. Mahalia Jackson
475. Alanis Morissette
474. Manic Street Preachers
473. Country Joe & The Fish
472. Charlie Christian
471. Manfred Mann
470. Pubic Image Ltd.
469. Hank Snow
468. Gary U.S. Bonds
467. Avenged Sevenfold
466. Violent Femmes
465. Ike & Tina Turner
464. Blues Travelers
463. PJ Harvey
462. Little Anthony & The Imperials
461. Seal
460. Sonny Rollins
459. Minor Threat
458. The Crystals
457. Anvil
456. Sublime
455. Wanda Jackson
454. The Soul Stirrers
453. Television
452. Poison
451. Echo & The Bunnymen
450. The Runaways
449. Devo
448. Carl Perkins
447. The Weavers
446. Chet Atkins
445. Dream Theater
444. George Michael
443. Traffic
442. Gene Clandler
441. Cocteau Twins
440. The Isley Brothers
439. Liz Phair
438. Korn
437. Arrested Development
436. Skinny Puppy
435. Jimmy Yancy
434. Joe Jackson
433. Ministry
432. Peter Tosh
431. Midnight Oil
430. Barry Manilow
429. Dio
428. Tim Hardin
427. Roy Brown
426. Queensryche
425. Dinosaur Jr.
424. Steve Earle
423. Garbage
422. Soft Machine
421. Billie Holiday
420. The Association
419. The Offspring
418. Billy Bragg
417. Chubby Checker
416. The Monks
415. David Sylvain
414. Jimmy Cliff
413. Big Star
412. Johnny Rivers
411. Mastodon
410. Carly Simon
409. Jeff Buckley
408. Mission of Burma
407. Petula Clark
406. Herbie Hancock
405. Pantera
404. Charles Brown
403. Joe South
402. They Might Be Giants
401. Japan
400. The Sonics
399. Waylon Jennings
398. The Stranglers
397. Diana Ross
396. Ian Dury & The Blockheads
395. Fugazi
394. Tim Buckley
393. Them
392. Gil Scott-Heron
391. Charley Patton
390. Lucinda Williams
389. The Damned
388. The Spencer Davis Group
387. Louis Prima
386. Marianne Faithful
385. The Turtles
384. Dire Straits
383. Booker T. & The MG’S
382. Dr. John
381. The Roots
380. Tindersticks
379. The Minutemen
378. The Shangri-las
377. Wishbone Ash
376. Guided By Voices
375. Lead Billy
374. The Dells
373. John Mellencamp
372. The Ventures
371. Lavern Baker
370. The Cars
369. Rick Nelson
368. Tricky
367. Iggy Pop
366. Frank Sinatra
365. Earth, Wind & Fire
364. Gillian Welch
363. Randy Newman
362. Blind Lemon Jefferson
361. Primal Scream
360. Mary Wells
359. Grant Lee Buffalo
358. Suede
357. Will Smith
356. Poco
355. Living Colour
354. Silver Apples
353. Wynonie Harris
352. ABBA
351. The Flamingos
350. Little Feat
349. Wilco
348. Dionne Warwick
347. Sleater-Kinney
346. Chris Isaak
345. Scott Joplin
344. Bonnie Raitt
343. Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
342. 10cc
341. Bill Withers
340. The Troggs
339. Little Walter
338. Foghat
337. Duane Eddy
336. Counting Crows
335. Big Mama Thornton
334. Hawkwind
333. Nick Lowe
332. Ben E. King
331. Leonard Cohen
330. Stone Temple Pilots
329. The 13th Floor Elevators
328. Afrika Bambaataa
327. Husker Du
326. Tori Amos
325. The Cater Family
324. The Jackson Five
323. Humble Pie
322. Stan Getz
321. The Kingston Trio
320. The Righteous Brothers
319. The Moonglows
318. Johnny Brunette & The Rock N’ Roll Trio
317. A Tribe Called Quest
316. The Big Bopper
315. Saxon
314. Franz Ferdinand
313. Lightin’ Hopkins
312. Isaac Hayes
311. Phish
310. Dick Dale
309. Robert Johnson
308. Dave Matthews Band
307. Judy Collins
306. Hank Williams Sr.
305. Rory Gallagher
304. Alan Parsons Project
303. Louis Jordan
302. The White Stripes
301. Bill Monroe
300. Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band
299. The Fugees
298. Richie Havens
297. Carole King
296. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps
295. Stevie Nicks
294. Ma Rainey
293. The Faces
292. The Impressions
291. Billy Idol
290. Red Hot Chili Peppers
289. Supertramp
288. Beck
287. Mumford & Sons
286. Bad Brains
285. John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers
284. Wham!
283. Les Paul
282. Dwight Yoakam
281. Tracy Chapman
280. MC5
279. Gordon Lightfoot
278. The Platters
277. Fleet Foxes
276. Joe Walsh
275. Cab Calloway
274. Lenny Kravitz
273. The Supremes
272. De La Soul
271. War
270. John Lee Hooker
269. The Temptations
268. UFO
267. Jeff Beck
266. The Pretenders
265. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
264. Jimmie Rodgers
263. Don Henley
262. Ten Years After
261. Rainbow
260. Massive Attack
259. Tina Turner
258. Edward Shape & The Magnetic Zeros
257. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
256. Motley Crew
255. Queen Latifah
254. Yellowcard
253. Peter Gabriel
252. Luther Vandross
251. Weezer
250. Ravi Shankar
249. Kid Rock
248. Donna Summer
247. Quiet Riot
246. The Coasters
245. Steve Perry
244. Iron Maiden
243. Curtis Mayfield
242. Lita Ford
241. The Spinners
240. Freddie King
239. Three Dog Night
238. Ritchie Valens
237. Love
236. Steely Dan
235. Garth Brooks
234. Smashing Pumpkins
233. Ringo Starr
232. Tommy James & The Shondells
231. Paul Revere & The Riders
230. The Patti Smith Group
229. Ella Fitzgerald
228. Hole
227. Jimmy Reed
226. The Wallflowers
225. Buck Owens
224. Jim Croce
223. King's X
222. Peter Frampton
221. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention
220. Radiohead
219. Elmore James
218. The Guess Who
217. The Clash
216. Slayer
215. The Drifters
214. Tom Jones
213. Roxy Music
212. Lionel Richie
211. Twisted Sister
210. Robert Palmer
209. Donovan
208. The Go Go's
207. Van Morrison
206. The Pixies
205. Stephen Stills
204. Talking Heads
203. Jefferson Starship
202. The Rascals
201. Etta James
200. Albert King
199. Nine Inch Nails
198. Bachman-Tuner Overdrive
197. Steve Miller Band
196. W.A.S.P
195. Al Green
194. Kenny Loggins
193. Bruce Hornsby
192. The Lovin' Spoonful
191. Bad Company
190. Yes
189. The Shirelles
188. Woody Guthrie
187. The Yardbirds
186. Blue Cheer
185. Run D.M.C
184. Big Joe Tuner
183. Willie Nelson
182. King Crimson
181. Willie Dixon
180. Graham Nash
179. Phil Collins
178. Pat Benatar
177. Solomon Burke
176. Pink Floyd
175. Iron Butterfly
174. Alice In Chains
173. Sly & The Family Stone
172. John Coltrane
171. Mott The Hoople
170. Green Day
169. The Beastie Boys
168. Bessie Smith
167. Martha & The Vandellas
166. Ratt
165. The Bangles
164. John Mayer
163. Tom Waits
162. The Dave Clark Five
161. Sting
160. Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
159. Tears For Fears
158. Paul Butterfield Blues Band
157. Styx
156. Ted Nugent
155. The Animals
154. Weird Al Yankovic
153. ZZ Top
152. Celine Dion
151. Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys
150. The Kinks
149. Lyle Lovett
148. Whitesnake
147. Miles Davis
146. Blood, Sweat & Tears
145. Marshall Tucker Band
144. The Mamas And The Papas
143. The Small Faces
142. Chicago
141. The Allman Brothers Band
140. Grand Funk Railroad
139. Nat "King" Cole
138. KC & The Sunshine Band
137. David Crosby
136. The Beach Boys
135. Glen Campbell
134. The Black Crowes
133. Jane's Addiction
132. The Bee Gees
131. Pete Seeger
130. Sarah McLachlan
129. Blondie
128. Soundgarden
127. T-Bone Walker
126. Paul Simon
125. Blue Oyster Cult
124. Ruth Brown
123. John Denver
122. Boston
121. The Ronettes
120. Linda Ronstadt
119. Big Country
118. Muddy Waters
117. Joan Baez
116. Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
115. Jetho Tull
114. David Bowie
113. Bing Crosby
112. Barbra Streisand
111. Jackie Wilson
110. Enya
109. New York Dolls
108. Bon Jovi
107. Roy Orbison
106. Anthrax
105. Barry White
104. Eddie Cochran
103. Simon & Garfukel
102. Wilson Pickett
101. The Doobie Brothers
100. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
99. Marvin Gaye
98. Joni Mitchell
97. The Velvet Underground
96. Coldplay
95. Howlin' Wolf
94. Angels & Airwaves
93. Bob Marley & The Wailers
92. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band
91. 2Pac
90. Neil Diamond
89. Santana
88. Johnny Cash
87. Buffalo Springfield
86. The Four Tops
85. Megadeth
84. Ozzy Osbourne
83. Elvis Costello & The Attractions
82. Louis Armstrong
81. Aretha Franklin
80. B.B King
79. Rod Stewart
78. The Hollies
77. Otis Redding
76. Joe Cocker
75. Eric Clapton
74. The Grateful Dead
73. The Band
72. Deep Purple
71. The Byrds
70. James Taylor
69. Bo Diddley
68. Eminem
67. The Moody Blues
66. Motorhead
65. George Harrison
64. Van Halen
63. Paul McCartney & Wings
62. Jackson Browne
61. Black Sabbath
60. Stevie Wonder
59. Alice Cooper
58. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
57. Daryl Hall & John Oates
56. Mountain
55. John Lennon
54. James Brown & The Famous Flames
53. Thin Lizzy
52. Foo Fighters
51. Pearl Jam
50. Neil Young & Crazy Horse
49. Jerry Lee Lewis
48. The Police
47. Huey Lewis & The News
46. The Doors
45. Janis Joplin & Big Brother & The Holding Company
44. The Stooges
43. Heart
42. Judas Priest
41. Steve Winwood
40. Def Leppard
39. Guns N' Roses
38. The Four Seasons
37. Elvis Presley
36. Queen
35. Bill Haley & The Comets
34. Little Richard
33. Tom Petty & The Heartbeakers
32. Lynyrd Skynyrd
31. Foreigner
30. Steppenwolf
29. The Everly Brothers
28. Genesis
27. Fats Domino
26. R.E.M
25. Metallica
24. Nirvana
23. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
22. Electric Light Orchestra
21. Ray Charles
20. Cream
19. Led Zeppelin
18. Sam Cooke
17. U2
16. Buddy Holly & The Crickets
15. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
14. Jefferson Airplane
13. Fleetwood Mac
12. The Who
11. The Eagles
10. Aerosmith
9. Journey
8. AC/DC
7. Chuck Berry
6. Creedence Clearwater Revival
5. Elton John
4. The Rolling Stones
3. Rush
2. Billy Joel
1. The Beatles

If any of you have any questions about this list, just talk to me.

Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 11.20.13 @ 00:47am


Now I'm aware that my rankings and the artists I picked for this list may have some of you thinking, "What was this kid thinking, putting Michael Jackson so high or putting Pink Floyd so low?", but this is my list in which I picked artists who I think have made a high impact on the world of music.

Not only doses this list highlight the big names in rock n' roll, but it also touches on other genres like jazz, blues, soul, rap, doo wop, folk, country, and alterative.

Here is the list:

740. Bob Dylan
739. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
738. KISS
737. Michael Jackson
736. The Ramones
735. Charlie Parker
734. The Notorious B.I.G.
733. Bette Midler
732. Emmylou Harris
731. Chuck Wills
730. Thelonious Monk
729. Harry Nilsson
728. Whitney Houston
727. Merle Haggard
726. Nick Drake
725. The Monkees
724. Dusty Springfield
723. Eurythmics
722. Peter, Paul & Mary
721. Sufjan Stevens
720. Fela Kuti
719. My Bloody Valentine
718. The Carpenters
717. Pavement
716. The Traveling Wilburys
715. The Smiths
714. Bobby “Blue” Bland
713. Queens of the Stone Age
712. Dexys Midnight Runners
711. Graham Parker
710. The 5th Dimension
709. The Modern Lovers
708. Wyclef Jean
707. Bobby Womack
706. Procol Harum
705. Norah Jones
704. Jerry Butler
703. The Flying Burrito Brothers
702. The Average White Band
701. The J. Geils Band
700. Tammy Wynette
699. The Sir Douglas Quintet
698. The Cult
697. Mitch Ryder
696. K.D. Lang
695. The Neville Brothers
694. Ornette Coleman
693. George Jones
692. White Zombie
691. The Staple Singers
690. Lonnie Donegan
689. Bill Evens
688. Link Wray
687. Dan Fogelberg
686. Adam & The Ants
685. Percy Mayfield
684. Eric Dolphy
683. Sammy Davis Jr.
682. The Commodores
681. The Arctic Monkeys
680. Rufus & Chaka Khan
679. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
678. Bobby Darin
677. Uncle Tupelo
676. Michael Buble
675. Buchanan & Goodman
674. Junior Walker & The All Stars
673. The Stone Roses
672. Dean Martin
671. The B-52s
670. Nancy Sinatra
669. Albert Collins
668. The Pretty Things
667. Disturbed
666. Arcade Fire
665. Jan & Dean
664. Robert Cray
663. America
662. The Dead Kennedys.
661. Edith Piaf
660. Patsy Cline
659. T. Rex
658. Tom Petty
657. Hugh Masekela
656. Al Stewart
655. Barenaked Ladies
654. Nina Simone
653. The Zombies
652. Can
651. LL Cool J.
650. Screaming Trees
649. Sonic Youth
648. X
647. Tony Bennett
646. The Mills Brothers
645. The Jam
644. Brenda Lee
643. Quicksilver Massager Service
642. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
641. The O’Jays
640. Scott Walker
639. New Order
638. Charles Mingus
637. The Strokes
636. Meat Loaf
635. Eddie Lang
634. Michael Bolton
633. Hank Williams III
632. Gladys Knight & The Pips
631. The Clovers
630. Josh Groban
629. Judy Garland
628. Question Mark & The Mysteries
627. Mariah Carey
626. Rage Against The Machine
625. Belle & Sebastian
624. W.C. Handy
623. Boys II Men
622. Dizzy Gillespie
621. Warren Zevon
620. The Flaming Lips
619. Peggy Lee
618. Eric B & Rakim
617. Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
616. Soul Asylum
615. Al Kooper
614. Parliament-Funkadelic
613. Danzig
612. Mississippi John Hurt
611. Laura Nyro
610. Sheryl Crow
609. Patti LaBelle
608. Ziggy Marley
607. The 5 Royales
606. Loverboy
605. Natalie Cole
604. Primus
603. The Cranberries
602. Joe Tex
601. Hank Williams Jr.
600. Sonny Boy Williamson
599. Connie Francis
598. The Chi-Lites
597. Band of Horses
596. The Specials
595. XTC
594. Brian Eno
593. Ry Cooder
592. The Ink Spots
591. Kate Bush
590. The Lumineers
589. Sam & Dave
588. Oasis
587. Depeche Mode
586. Cheap Trick
585. M.C. Hammer
584. Duke Ellington
583. The Afghan Whigs
582. Otis Rush
581. Air Supply
580. Johnny Ace
579. Del Shannon
578. Little Willie John
577. Cat Stevens
576. Black Flag
575. The Replacements
574. The Scorpions
573. TV on the Radio
572. Clyde McPhatter
571. Jimmy Buffet
570. The Cure
569. Sonny Boy Williamson II
568. Alicia Keys
567. Henry Connrick Jr.
566. Jelly Roll Morton
565. Lloyd Price
564. Faith No More
563. The Seeds
562. Shania Twain
561. Janet Jackson
560. The Meters
559. Benny Goodman
558. INXS
557. The Orioles
556. Allen Toussaint
555. The Four Freshmen
554. Melissa Etheridge
553. Blind Melon
552. The Buzzcocks
551. Duran Duran
550. Simple Minds
549. Lou Reed
548. The Kingsmen
547. Sweet
546. Men At Work
545. Professor Longhair
544. Uriah Heep
543. Sean Lennon
542. Bauhaus
541. Nico
540. Buddy Knox
539. Mahavishnu Orchestra
538. Dinah Washington
537. Gene Pitney
536. Lee Morgan
535. Django Reinhardt
534. Todd Rundgren
533. Leon Russell
532. Meat Puppets
531. Yo La Tango
530. Julian Lennon
529. Darlene Love
528. The Birthday Party
527. Madness
526. Suicide
525. Buddy Guy
524. Siouxsie & The Banshees
523. Serge Gainsborug
522. Fairport Convention
521. Wire
520. Chic
519. Adele
518. Cliff Richards & The Shadows
517. Brian Wilson
516. Tom Paxton
515. Billy Squier
514. The Progues
513. Bon Iver
512. Robyn Hitchcock
511. The Ravens
510. Muse
509. Asia
508. Badfinger
507. Gang of Four
506. Dolly Parton
505. The Move
504. The Fall
503. Cage The Elephant
502. Kool & The Gang
501. The Corrs
500. Lee “Scratch” Perry
499. Roseanne Cash
498. Toots & The Maytals
497. Cher
496. Johnny Otis
495. Fiona Apple
494. Jacques Brel
493. Ennio Morricone
492. Blur
491. Kraftwerk
490. Sex Pistols
489. Lauryn Hill
488. The Jesus & Mary Chain
487. Pulp
486. Gram Parsons
485. The Dominoes
484. Olivia Newton-John
483. The Marvelettes
482. Dion & The Belmonts
481. Elliot Smith
480. System Of A Down
479. Neutral Milk Hotel.
478. Cyndi Lauper
477. Happy Mondays
476. Mahalia Jackson
475. Alanis Morissette
474. Manic Street Preachers
473. Country Joe & The Fish
472. Charlie Christian
471. Manfred Mann
470. Pubic Image Ltd.
469. Hank Snow
468. Gary U.S. Bonds
467. Avenged Sevenfold
466. Violent Femmes
465. Ike & Tina Turner
464. Blues Travelers
463. PJ Harvey
462. Little Anthony & The Imperials
461. Seal
460. Sonny Rollins
459. Minor Threat
458. The Crystals
457. Anvil
456. Sublime
455. Wanda Jackson
454. The Soul Stirrers
453. Television
452. Poison
451. Echo & The Bunnymen
450. The Runaways
449. Devo
448. Carl Perkins
447. The Weavers
446. Chet Atkins
445. Dream Theater
444. George Michael
443. Traffic
442. Gene Clandler
441. Cocteau Twins
440. The Isley Brothers
439. Liz Phair
438. Korn
437. Arrested Development
436. Skinny Puppy
435. Jimmy Yancy
434. Joe Jackson
433. Ministry
432. Peter Tosh
431. Midnight Oil
430. Barry Manilow
429. Dio
428. Tim Hardin
427. Roy Brown
426. Queensryche
425. Dinosaur Jr.
424. Steve Earle
423. Garbage
422. Soft Machine
421. Billie Holiday
420. The Association
419. The Offspring
418. Billy Bragg
417. Chubby Checker
416. The Monks
415. David Sylvain
414. Jimmy Cliff
413. Big Star
412. Johnny Rivers
411. Mastodon
410. Carly Simon
409. Jeff Buckley
408. Mission of Burma
407. Petula Clark
406. Herbie Hancock
405. Pantera
404. Charles Brown
403. Joe South
402. They Might Be Giants
401. Japan
400. The Sonics
399. Waylon Jennings
398. The Stranglers
397. Diana Ross
396. Ian Dury & The Blockheads
395. Fugazi
394. Tim Buckley
393. Them
392. Gil Scott-Heron
391. Charley Patton
390. Lucinda Williams
389. The Damned
388. The Spencer Davis Group
387. Louis Prima
386. Marianne Faithful
385. The Turtles
384. Dire Straits
383. Booker T. & The MG’S
382. Dr. John
381. The Roots
380. Tindersticks
379. The Minutemen
378. The Shangri-las
377. Wishbone Ash
376. Guided By Voices
375. Lead Billy
374. The Dells
373. John Mellencamp
372. The Ventures
371. Lavern Baker
370. The Cars
369. Rick Nelson
368. Tricky
367. Iggy Pop
366. Frank Sinatra
365. Earth, Wind & Fire
364. Gillian Welch
363. Randy Newman
362. Blind Lemon Jefferson
361. Primal Scream
360. Mary Wells
359. Grant Lee Buffalo
358. Suede
357. Will Smith
356. Poco
355. Living Colour
354. Silver Apples
353. Wynonie Harris
352. ABBA
351. The Flamingos
350. Little Feat
349. Wilco
348. Dionne Warwick
347. Sleater-Kinney
346. Chris Isaak
345. Scott Joplin
344. Bonnie Raitt