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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  John R.C.,

Thanks. Don't know why FRL hasn't updated those yet.
Thursday, 03/28/2024 @ 01:56am
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About the 2024 Nominees, John R.C. wrote:
  Timothy Pernell

That number isn't accurate since the ballot tracker hasn't logged in the Patreon exclusive episodes. This is the real number of where things stand:

15 for Kool & The Gang
14 for A Tribe Called Quest
12 for Sinead O'Conner
11 for Eric B & Rakim
10 for Mary J. Blige
10 for Oasis
6 for Jane's Addiction
6 for Ozzy Osborne
6 for Mariah Carey
6 for Sade
6 for Cher
5 for Frampton
5 for Sade
4 for Foreigner
4 for Lenny Kravitz
1 for DMB
Thursday, 03/28/2024 @ 01:53am
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About Stray Cats, Jay wrote:
  Rockabilly gets overlooked, its unfortunate as the musicians are better than many inducted. The Blasters and Stray Cats are worthy of the honor.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 21:48pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Ron Jenkins wrote:
  Alright guys, taking a few weeks off from the site. See ya between when voting ends and before the inductee announcement.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 18:10pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Alec Tess wrote:
  Not saying this is the reason they weren't voted in last time around but there are people in the reason who can't stand Jack White
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 18:06pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Ron Jenkins wrote:
  Mat R,

Well only time would tell.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 17:34pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Jennifer wrote:
  Timothy,

I hope we get more inductees too since there are lots on this ballot that are very worthy and many that should have been inducted long ago. :)
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 17:01pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Oops forgot about Oasis: 9 on the ballot tracker
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 16:50pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Ballot tracker:

Those who are doing well (6-10) on it so far:
K&TG - 10
ATCQ - 9
Sinead - 8
MJB - 6
EBAR - 6
Ozzy - 6
Jane's - 6

Those midway (5):
Cher - 5
Peter Frampton - 5

Those doing more poorly (1-4):
Mariah - 4
Foreigner - 4
Lenny - 3
Sade - 3
Dave Matthews Band - 1
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 16:47pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Jennifer,

LOL I just noticed I didn't. :D Error on my part... I keep thinking we may have more inductees. Maybe these were my "should be" lists or something. UGH LOL
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 16:41pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  I actually put Oasis in my "should be inducted" list. Don't get why the White Stripes were denied.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 16:39pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Jennifer wrote:
  Timothy Pernell,

You said that you thought Foreigner was a lock but did not include them in any of your sample possible scenarios. What's up with that?
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 16:39pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Mat r wrote:
  Ron Jenkins

Sure but how and how long are going to be the issue. If white stripes, beck, and Smiths are taking 2-5 nomination there's no real path for modest mouse or yeah yeah yeahs, if you're using side categories for sonic youth and pavement then how long is it gonna take for my bloody valentine or Liz Phair.

Like metal and rap had stars you could get in quick to avoid these issues, indie seemingly doesn't have a one and done artists and really big acts (the Smiths) need at least 3 nominations. The stadium acts and festival headliners (white stripes and beck) need multiples. if oasis can't get over the hump on a nomination, the genre is going to be the slowest train possible
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 14:12pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Ron Jenkins wrote:
  I really do think indie rock will have more representation at the Hall & hopefully acts including Pixies, Sonic Youth, The Replacements, The White Stripes, Beck & The Smiths would get their due before this decade comes to a close as they're among those artists who are pretty much a big deal to today's indie scene. I mean if The Velvet Underground who are considered as leaders/figures of the whole "alternative music" scene, movement & culture could get inducted so can them as well.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 13:35pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Alec Tess wrote:
  Dave Ghrol is a big Oasis fan and had Liam Gallagher preformat the Taylor Hawkins tribute show
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:59pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Funny how some folks here think the exclusion of Wenner will change anything when Wenner is of the "boys only especially if they're white" kind of mindset... which is weird since he doesn't like heavy metal. Hmm.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:52pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Looks like Kool and the Gang are finally pulling ahead of Mariah in the fan vote, almost 5k votes ahead. Guessing Lambs finally gave it up. This could bode well for both acts since both Whitney and Janet were just outside the five final votes and got in (albeit with far more votes). In this case, I can see Mariah and Kool ushered in like this. Of course, it's up to fellow inductees and industry voters who they want... which is why it looks great for both of them and their chances of getting in.

I just can't see DMB or Frampton getting in so Amy is off.

Tribe and EBAR would be split evenly, me thinks. They may decide on Mary to be their "hip-hop" choice.

Like I said, I believe the locks for me are still Ozzy, Foreigner, Lenny, Kool and Cher. I've been kinda going back and forth on it but since we got 19 days left, my opinions have changed again a little. Here's what I believe may happen:

Far from the five locks, we are probably seeing a fight to the finish for the following:
Mariah
MJB
Oasis
Tribe

*Mariah - should be a slam dunk but I don't trust the process. As someone who admires Mariah (and every pop diva that's been nominated from Janet to Whitney to Madonna), I want her in because she deserves it. She's very influential, she and MJB popularized hip-hop and pop collaborations (Mary's sound of course is grittier but that's besides the point), having the hit caliber she has and the memorable tunes helps to her advantage - or it should. She doesn't seem loved by critics (only a few of her albums and singles have ever made critics' best-of lists) but she definitely has fans inside the RRHOF (especially those R&B/soul inductees who are still around like Gladys Knight, whom Mariah inducted in 1996). Now the industry may be an entirely different story. Her reputation has always been polarizing in that department.

Early Mariah from 1990-93 had a lot of detractors (folks thought she was "the white answer to Whitney", she had to deal with racism in black and white circles, she didn't perform on the road so people thought she was a studio creation and not an actual artist, her early material was very AC-oriented with only a few stabs at earthier and edgier music - what saved Whitney for instance is she wasn't scared to venture into the dance floor, get funky or occasionally rock out whereas Mariah seemed stuck on one genre), then we have Mariah's glory years of 1994-2000 where she changed direction and explore more sides of herself, created some very cohesive material that still stands today and this is where people can pick the classics - FANTASY! ALWAYS BE MY BABY! MY ALL! HEARTBREAKER! ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS! - then we have that Mariah from 2001-2004 that was ignored and deemed "crazy", i.e., the mental breakdown period. Then COMEBACK Mariah from 2005-2009 where she solidifies her legacy permanently as a legend. Everything after that is just what happens when you become an elder stateswoman of popular music.

It would be criminal not to induct her even though my own reasons for not including her initially had to do with inducting Dionne first but if you must induct Mariah, do it, maybe it'll make Dionne's entry a little easier in case they don't put her in through the side door - which of course is not out of the question. Mariah's induction likely won't mean much since we're at the tail end of inducting legendary pop divas. But here's where her chances could be split - CHER. I know Mariah is beloved but I think people underestimate how loved Cher is. Even with her nonchalant attitude of the Hall and how they can kiss her butt after not nominating her for 30 years, I can still see the public voters figuring why not. Especially since some of them may be like "huh? She's not in already???" And that could be a thorn in Mariah's side, as well as the presences of her friend MJB and the late Sinead O'Connor. Mariah clicks so many boxes (pop, R&B, hip-hop, hip-hop soul) that many are confused about where to land her. This could or not be a problem for her as we wind things down on the nomination process.

*Mary J - I was SOOOOO sure MJB was gonna get in when she got nominated in 2021. But I misjudge due to the power of Carole King (I guessed right on Tina of course and the Go-Go's but didn't pick Carole to be inducted when she did). And even now I'm sure she'll get in - but why I've held back from including her in my "will be inducted" list now is that you can never be too sure about something and I hate to get disappointed every time I see a fave of mine especially a beloved R&B artist doesn't get in (y'all should've seen me in 2013... to say I was angry was an understatement, I WAS PISSED). MJB may not be Mariah in terms of global success/impact but we can't deny her credentials. She is truly a living legend in both hip-hop and R&B. She innovated the merging of the genres better than those who preceded her (Janet) and influenced another nominee (Mariah). And though both Mary and Mariah are both credited with popularizing the merging of the genres to mainstream pop, Mariah may as well be Debbie Boone compared to Mary. Her first two albums (What's the 411?, My Life) were game-changers in R&B music and totally broke the path away from the quiet storm contemporary stuff Anita Baker and fellow nominees Sade were doing and the crossover R&B music that Whitney & Mariah were doing. It led to the popularization of what became hip-hop soul. Overnight, Mary J. became the hip-hop Aretha Franklin. And like Aretha, she has notched numerous R&B charted singles (Aretha, according to Billboard's stats, had 96; MJB has 73). She has the classic albums and classic songs (Real Love, Not Gon' Cry, I Can Love You, Everything, Family Affair, No More Drama, Be Without You). Her story is similar to Mariah's is that she didn't always have it easy (matter of fact, Mary almost became a tragic tale similar to Janis Joplin, via the disastrous toxic affairs, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.) but somehow she pulled out of it to become an icon. And after a period where her music had a down period, she came back in a huge way like Mariah (both the Emancipation of Mimi and The Breakthrough came out in 2005).

So all of that should be enough to get in, right? Not necessarily. I chalked up that 2021 was a bad time for Mary to be nominated (that year had Dionne, Tina, the Go-Go's and Carole). I'm guessing in that case, the R&B voters were split between MJB and Dionne or went directly to TINA. In fact I imagine they thought "nah, Mary can wait, induct Tina" and that's exactly what happened. Then when MJB wasn't nominated immediately the following year, my guess was that her votes were too small to try it but now here we are: 2024 - three years after her last nomination, and we're trying it again with the Queen of Yonkers. An MJB induction could do wonders for those who followed her in the hip-hop soul direction (think Aaliyah, Brandy, Monica) and also boast well for a fellow Yonkers legend (the late DMX) to get a future nomination. Of course, the obstacles in this are Mariah of course, Sinead, and then we have fellow hip-hoppers like Tribe (whom Mary sampled in one of her songs) and EBAR. Now of course, if votes are split with Tribe/EBAR, Mary's path is clearer. Y'all are saying never on her but I'm saying "never say never".

*Oasis - I kinda dismissed them in my early predictions but there is definitely a path for them. They could shock everyone and get in and kick out any of the ones I think are a lock (namely Lenny). Why their path may NOT be clear is due to the "boomer infestation" (LOL) of the Hall. Your Ozzy, your Foreigner, your Kool and the Gang, your Frampton. BIG, HUGE NAMES in the boomer rock category. That definitely is playing a hindrance with the 80s/90s rockers on the list (Sinead, Jane's Addiction), then we have 90s "jam rockers" DMB, who are currently leading the fan vote whereas Oasis is not. Hard where to put this group: they're a critics' darling but they also have made enemies within the industry (not a good sign for induction chances). So when people mention that inductees, especially from the UK, could vote them in, be cautious about that. They could get in like previous British acts have in the last five years have like Roxy Music, Depeche Mode, T. Rex, Kate Bush and George Michael (Liam is a HUGE GM fan and George if he was alive could've voted for Oasis) or they could be like the White Stripes and wait their turn. It's hard. Now criticizing the Hall doesn't automatically mean you won't get picked (hence why we have Cher this year and, in the past, Todd Rundgren, Sex Pistols (who sent an angry letter to them after they were inducted lol), Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails (and Trent warmed up to the Hall after he inducted someone - I forget who, I think it was Roxy Music)), but that definitely could play against them. I wouldn't be mad if they got in - they have the credentials but the question is will they? Stay tuned.

*A Tribe Called Quest - I know, I know. But a part of me definitely would be happy inducting these guys. Now if it was an 8-member class, they'll get in but since they're seven, they could run the risk of being passed aside like EBAR. Just because they, EBAR and MJB are doing fine in the ballot tracker doesn't always mean their chances of getting in are solid. Same with Oasis. But who knows? They could be a dark horse inductee.

Either way, when you break it down, any of these scenarios could pan out:

Ozz
Cher
Lenny
Kool
Mariah
Sinead
Tribe

Ozz
Cher
Lenny
Kool
Mariah
Mary
Tribe

Ozz
Cher
Lenny
Kool
Mariah
Mary
Oasis

Ozz
Cher
Lenny
Kool
Mariah
Mary
Sinead

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This year is actually the first where ANYTHING can happen. None of the predictions are guaranteed, not even the assumed locks because you just never know what's going on behind the scenes. :D
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:50pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Mat r wrote:
  So listening to Song vs Song and it's left me with a thought...for the hall, oasis are the most important nominee this year and if they don't get in the future of rock is dead at the hall.

Indie is the truly rich bastion of hall of fame worthy rock. Replacements, Smiths, beck, and white stripes couldn't get enough support to warrant a return. If oasis, the biggest band from the indie umbrella, can't get in with ease then there is zero hope for bands ranging from pixies to the strokes to vampire weekend
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:40pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Alec Tess wrote:
  I really feel like with Jann Wenner gone the Rock Hall is gonna start appealing way more to the Rock Purists who always yell that it should be the "Music Hall of Fame" and that the 80s were the last good decade for Rock plus think Ted Nugent is a bigger snub than Soundgarden or Smashing Pumpkind haha

But at the same time they will still nominate more female and POC acts
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:19pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  Alec Tess,

End of the week or month.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 12:03pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, richie wrote:
  Alec Tess,

Ballots are due back on April 15, the same day that the fan vote ends.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 10:42am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Alec Tess wrote:
  When should we expect the inductees announcement?

And when are the official ballots due?
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 10:27am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Mat r wrote:
  Elle dee
That class would be based

Side note


Omg Diddy has been raided, more people are being named in that lawsuit (Cuba Gooding Jr, prince harry). Gonna say it there is a pretty good chance that, in addition to himself and usher, all this Diddy stuff brings down some names we expect to see in the hall of fame or are already in
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 08:51am
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About the 2024 Nominees, will m wrote:
  Kool and the gang maintain their 3k lead above Mariah and DMB have hit 400k fan votes. EBAR remain at less than 50k fan votes, with only 42k
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 07:33am
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About The Dells, power wrote:
  The Dells recorded first hit Oh, What a Night in 1956, and this group should be eligble in 1986 not 1991.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 06:08am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Ron Jenkins wrote:
  I'm glad the past living inductees & industry professionals are in charge of this whole process, because if fans & critics have more power then it would be very weak & boring class adding more future uninteresting ballots & classes.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 04:21am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Alec Tess wrote:
  To be fair they always throw a olive branch to the Classic Rock/Metal fans so
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 03:18am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Elle Dee wrote:
  power

If this were the 2024 class, I will be very happy.

Cher
Mariah
Sinead
Tribe
Kool
Oasis
Sade

But wishful thinking
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 02:06am
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About the 2024 Nominees, power wrote:
  Elle Dee,

Amy Linden is not good at prediction. If my memory serves me well, she did not think Crow have good chance in last year and the guest she invited at her show said Iron Maiden would be in. Amy Linden is just a part of deciding ballot but not good at predicting real class. She is in critics category and may not know the thinking by past inductees and industry people well.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 01:12am
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About the 2024 Nominees, Elle Dee wrote:
  power

At one point during the episode of immaletyoufinish..., Amy made a bold prediction on who will possibly get inducted this year (Cher, DMB, Foreigner, Frampton, Kool, Lenny, Sinead, Ozzy).

I truly hope that this is not the case it'll be a boring rock hall class.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 01:07am
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About Ozzy Osbourne, power wrote:
  Philip

I totally agree with you and I think Ozzy has good chance but are not slam dunk in this year
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 00:50am
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About the 2024 Nominees, power wrote:
  But what I'm saying is that Tribe's advantage over Ebar isn't as significant as some people within FRL imagine, definitely not overwhelming. It's very possible that votes will be split rather than everyone unanimously voting for Tribe over Ebar. Commercially, Tribe isn't much better than Ebar, and they both have high reputations among critics. People might think Tribe's music is better (for example, based on ratings on RYM), but Ebar emerged earlier and is more significant within the rap circle (having explored flow). Overall, I believe Tribe's advantage over Ebar isn't as large.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 00:48am
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About the 2024 Nominees, power wrote:
  I just want to say that the momentum related to R&B and rap is mainly created by critics. Amy Linden and the voters in Ballot Tracker are critics. But in reality, past inductees and industry people have the most decisive power. However, we are not clear about their opinions. So it's hard to say whether R&B and rap artists have truly gained momentum.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 00:43am
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About Ozzy Osbourne, Philip wrote:
  I was gonna write this on a reaction entry, but time slipping away, I'm just gonna say it here, and I apologize if someone brought it up on the 2024 Nominees thread. Joe and Kristen hinted at it on their episode, but I'll say it more directly: Ozzy's solo nomination is a litmus test for the feasibility of getting metal in the Hall in the future. If you ask a group of people which band epitomizes heavy metal, you won't get a consensus. There'll be a split of answers between bands like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica, Motorhead, etc. But if you ask that group of people to which person epitomizes or symbolizes heavy metal most, it's gonna be Ozzy Osbourne outright (though Lemmy and Randy Rhoads might get mentions). This is why he's on the ballot this year. If he, being the figurehead of metal, performs poorly on the ballot, what chance can metal ever have, shy of making a ballot of only metal acts? It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Wednesday, 03/27/2024 @ 00:35am
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About the 2024 Nominees, richie wrote:
  According to the following inside information from Poseidon (aka therealguest on here and Btravll on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/Btravll ) on forums.stevehoffman.tv , Here are the odds on each of the 15 nominees in terms of their chances of getting in this year:

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/2024-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees.1194973/page-35
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/2024-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees.1194973/page-41

100% Mariah Carey, slam dunk
90% nearly a slam dunk, Cher
80% Kool & The Gang, it should have happened 20 yrs ago
70% A Tribe Called Quest, finally and Oasis is in this area
60% Mary J. Blige, Sade, Lenny Kravitz, Eric B. & Rakim
40% Ozzy Osbourne, Jane's Addiction, Foreigner
30% Peter Frampton
20% Dave Matthews Band, Sinead O'Connor

So the following acts in the 60-100% range are most likely getting in this year:

100% Mariah Carey, slam dunk
90% nearly a slam dunk, Cher
80% Kool & The Gang, it should have happened 20 yrs ago
70% A Tribe Called Quest, finally and Oasis is in this area
60% Mary J. Blige, Sade, Lenny Kravitz, Eric B. & Rakim


while the following acts in the 20-40% range are most likely missing out on induction this year:

40% Ozzy Osbourne, Jane's Addiction, Foreigner
30% Peter Frampton
20% Dave Matthews Band, Sinead O'Connor

What are your thoughts on this?.
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 22:03pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Guest wrote:
  How long after DMB started rising near the top did they decided to cut back the fan poll?

I wonder if they became aware that DMB has little chance to get inducted this year and want to cut back embarrassment over them topping the fan poll a second time but not getting inducted
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 21:57pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, John R.C. wrote:
  Timothy Pernell

Yeah, and that's why I made the claim that there's a chance that majority of the inductees in the performer category will be primarily be of Hip Hop and R&B influence. For the past few weeks, I've seen many people talking about R&B and Hip Hop artists. Only Foreigner is the only Classic Rock act that is the most talked about (granted it's through the endorsements of past inductees). The only guitar driven act that seems to excite people is Oasis, and not in a "let's vote for them to see if there's going to be any Gallagher Brothers shenanigans at the ceremony" way.
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 21:49pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, will m wrote:
  idk about you guys but I get really satisfied when the "nominees who didn't make it" section of each year on this site gets filled out with blue years instead of the white "not yet" text. the spinners, Chaka, Kate, link to some extent, and rage espeially getting inducted was awesome.

so tribe would fill out that spot on 22 and 23. so besides the fact I love their music and shaped hip hop forever, I really want them in for that reason. superficial ik, I also just love this website, so thank you FRL literally my fav website ever. so awesome.

its rare that the voting process gets this interesting this late in the game. very excited to see where this leads
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 21:09pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Mat r wrote:
  I hope atcq don't get in cause I have a bet going with an annoying guy at work

I want $5
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 20:59pm
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About the 2024 Nominees, Timothy Pernell wrote:
  John R.C.,

Yeah both Tribe and EB&R are doing strong in the ballot tracker.
Tuesday, 03/26/2024 @ 20:56pm
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