The Stylistics

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Eligible since: 1996 (The 1997 Induction Ceremony)

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Will The Stylistics be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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If the Stylistics are inducted, then they should induct Thom Bell and Linda Creed as songwriters. Bell wrote the music while L. Creed wrote the lyrics. Linda Creed's only number hit as a songwriter was Whitney's version of "Greatest Love Of All" which hit the pole position when Linda Creed died of breast cancer

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 03.9.08 @ 14:34pm


Great soul group. I'd put them in, but they'll probably never make it.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 03:23am


I would have to concur with you, Philip. Russell Thompkins Jr. had one of the most distinctive voices in the history of popular music, and I'm particularly fond of "People Make The World Go Round" and "Hurry Up This Way Again"...great songs!

It seems like TSOP has always been a step or two behind Motown (even though I liked a lot of it just as much, if not more). Maybe Gamble & Huff's induction will change that...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 08:04am


Philly soul was only behind Motown in terms of chronology. Their stuff was much better than the pop-promoted-as-R&B of Motown.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 06.24.09 @ 18:26pm


The Stylistics won't get in , because the "great hall" has elected to COMPLETELY BYPASS classic 70's R&B/Soul artists for 80's Rappers. What makes Rap/Hip-Hop so blasted special that the Hall would just ignore an ENTIRE ERA OF MUSIC just to induct THEM??

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 14:48pm


The stylistics definately should be in the Hall
as well as the Marvelettes.

Posted by Teressia Peterson on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 15:23pm


The particular Hip-Hop artists that Hall has inducted have had much more of an impact on the landscape of popular music than bands like the Stylistics. Like anyone else, groups like Run DMC, the Beastie Boys, Public Enemy and even Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five become eligible they deserve to be inducted on the first ballot. They shouldn't be forced to give way to artists who've, generally speaking, been less influential and innovative then they have. For the record, I'm not saying the Stylistics aren't deserving, just that they'll have to wait their turn, even if it is a painfully (and somewhat unjustly) long wait.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 15:37pm


The Miracles were one of the most influential groups of all time. Their songs have been far more covered than ANY Rap act. Yet...look how long it took THEM to get in. 27 years ???!!

The problem is not just The Stylistics (who, by the way, have had an enormous international impact...much greater than in the States). The real problem is that the "Great Hall" has ignored, not just ONE group, but the ENTIRE late 60's /early 70's Soul genre...what I like to call the artists of the "Soul Train Era". The only group of this era that has so far been inducted is The O'Jays.

Where are the nominations/ inductions for artists like The Chi-Lites, The Manhattans, The Spinners, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes,Barry White, Lou Rawls, The Dramatics, The Whispers,Jr Walker & The All-Stars (Motown Era), Mary Wells (ditto) and numerous others...

Also , artists of the Late 70's Funk Era. Only The Parliaments/Funkedelic and Earth, Wind & Fire from this era have been inducted...Yet The Commodores were the biggest group of the Late 70's ...and they have so far failed to garner an induction. Neither has Chaka Khan & Rufus, Kool & The Gang, The Ohio Players,The Bar-Kays, and numerous others ? (I won't count The Isley Brothers,because their origins stem from far before the "Funk" era).

Not only have the artists of ''The Soul Train Era" been bypassed, but so has Don Cornelius HIMSELF !! Truly a travesty !! WHY ??


Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 16:52pm


http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_rb-funk-art.html

DDD's list of the 100 Greatest Funk Artists

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 17:06pm


"The Miracles were one of the most influential groups of all time. Their songs have been far more covered than ANY Rap act. Yet...look how long it took THEM to get in. 27 years ???!!"

The problem of the Miracles omission predates the Rap inductions. They should have been inducted when Smokey Robinson was inducted. And the Miracles are not the Stylistics. They are MUCH more imortant. Also, having your songs covered doesn't equal influence.

"The problem is not just The Stylistics (who, by the way, have had an enormous international impact...much greater than in the States). The real problem is that the "Great Hall" has ignored, not just ONE group, but the ENTIRE late 60's /early 70's Soul genre...what I like to call the artists of the "Soul Train Era". The only group of this era that has so far been inducted is The O'Jays.

Where are the nominations/ inductions for artists like The Chi-Lites, The Manhattans, The Spinners, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes, Barry White, Lou Rawls, The Dramatics, The Whispers,Jr Walker & The All-Stars (Motown Era), Mary Wells (ditto) and numerous others...

Also, artists of the Late 70's Funk Era. Only The Parliaments/Funkedelic and Earth, Wind & Fire from this era have been inducted... Yet The Commodores were the biggest group of the Late 70's... and they have so far failed to garner an induction. Neither has Chaka Khan & Rufus, Kool & The Gang, The Ohio Players,The Bar-Kays, and numerous others ? (I won't count The Isley Brothers,because their origins stem from far before the "Funk" era).

Not only have the artists of ''The Soul Train Era" been bypassed, but so has Don Cornelius HIMSELF !! Truly a travesty !! WHY ??"

I'm not disputing any of this (although the worthiness of some of the acts you mentioned is questionable). What remains is that, when looking at the big picture vis--vis the history of popular music since the dawn of rock, the 4 rap groups inducted into the Hall are more important then every group you've mentioned save the Miracles, who weren't part of the discussion in the first place. You're simply letting your preference for a particular genre and period of music narrow your view of who deserves to be in the Hall before who. It's unfair to blame Rap for the Hall's chronic failure to induct artists when they should have been. These oversights, such as they are, are part of a chain of events predating the Hall's induction of Hip Hop artists.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 17:30pm


I agree with Chalkie. The Stylistics actually stood out in that box of R&B/soul groups of that period. There's a good reason the O'Jays got inducted (as they should've). But I don't see how someone like say, Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, getting inducted. But yeah hope they induct the Stylistics one day. Bill G has made it clear he hates rap lol

Posted by Tim on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 19:09pm


"DDD's list of the 100 Greatest Funk Artists"

DDD is to be taken with a big grain of salt.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.14.12 @ 21:18pm


"I'm not disputing any of this (although the worthiness of some of the acts you mentioned is questionable). What remains is that, when looking at the big picture vis--vis the history of popular music since the dawn of rock, the 4 rap groups inducted into the Hall are more important then every group you've mentioned save the Miracles, who weren't part of the discussion in the first place. You're simply letting your preference for a particular genre and period of music narrow your view of who deserves to be in the Hall before who. It's unfair to blame Rap for the Hall's chronic failure to induct artists when they should have been. These oversights, such as they are, are part of a chain of events predating the Hall's induction of Hip Hop artists."

If you indeed, look at the ENTIRE history of Popular music, you'll see that Rap/Hip-Hop constitutes only a small part of the overall picture.To hint that the most popular Rap acts are more important than most of the Black Music that came before it is looking at it from a biased perspective of what is popular among young people NOW.The median age of the majority of the people blogging in to this site are people who came of age during the rise of Rap. It is simply a fact that many people, like it or not, tend to look at music and choose favorites steming from their particular vantage time and vantage point. I do it...and so does just about everyone else here.Rap is not the be-all and end-all of all music...it's just a small part...but the one that is most popular NOW. There are numerous ground-braking artists of the last 50 years that have had a much more profound impact than Rap. Especially when you consider that much of Rap/Hip-Hop is , in many cases, derivative, borrowing, or "sampling" the music of artists of decades past. How can artists who copy or sample the music of older artists be more important than the artists who ORIGINATED it in the first place ?

Also, yes, sad as it may seem , I do believe in honoring artists according to the timeline. I (and this is only my opinion),feel that the Hall has been GROSSLY guilty of ignoring many artists of Rock and Roll's long and rich past in favor of honoring artists that rose to fame in the Eighties. What of the artists from the more than 30 years BEFORE that ? What rule states that artists should be chosen that would sell tickets to the ceremony because the median age of their fans are the most likely to be the ones who would BUY those tickets ?

This is why I sincerely hope that the Hall of Fame's "Special Committee" will be an ongoing feature. Not just to correct the error of groups not originally inducted with their lead singers, but also to induct deserving pre 1980 artists who ALSO have been overlooked through the years.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 12.15.12 @ 04:23am


Wait. Did you just say that the 80's were overrepresented? The same decade that Steve Van Zandt called "a musical wasteland"? The same decade Jann Wenner wanted to gloss over by suggesting that the Hall reduce the 25 year rule to 20? When The Smiths, Cure, Sonic Youth, Cars, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Replacements, etc. are still barely on the Rockhall's radar?

Posted by Dezmond on Saturday, 12.15.12 @ 07:35am


the 80's are by far the most neglected decade.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 12.15.12 @ 07:46am


"If you indeed, look at the ENTIRE history of Popular music, you'll see that Rap/Hip-Hop constitutes only a small part of the overall picture."

As does 1967-1980 Soul.

"To hint that the most popular Rap acts are more important than most of the Black Music that came before it is looking at it from a biased perspective of what is popular among young people NOW."

Wrong. I'm saying that the best, most influential, innovative, important (etc.) Rap acts are better than second rate soul acts; just as the best soul acts (James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder) are better than most (or all) rap, or any other genre.

"Rap is not the be-all and end-all of all music..."

I'm not sure that anyone is saying this here.

"It's just a small part...but the one that is most popular NOW."

Way to contradict yourself. And besides that, I'm not sure it is even the most popular genre of music today.

"There are numerous ground-braking artists of the last 50 years that have had a much more profound impact than Rap."

Yes and 99% of them are in the Hall already.

"How can artists who copy or sample the music of older artists be more important than the artists who ORIGINATED it in the first place?"

Smooth soul bands like the Stylistics didn't originate rap. James Brown on the other hand...

"I (and this is only my opinion),feel that the Hall has been GROSSLY guilty of ignoring many artists of Rock and Roll's long and rich past in favor of honoring artists that rose to fame in the Eighties."

Are we talking about the same Rock and Roll Hall of Fame??

"What of the artists from the more than 30 years BEFORE that?"

MOST OF THE VERY IMPORTANT ONES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INDUCTED!!!

Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12.15.12 @ 07:55am


"I (and this is only my opinion),feel that the Hall has been GROSSLY guilty of ignoring many artists of Rock and Roll's long and rich past in favor of honoring artists that rose to fame in the Eighties."

This would be something statistics machine Roy would be good for, but we should count up how many inductees we have so far that rose to fame in the 60's vs. the 70's vs. the 80's. I think you would find that the 80's is the red-headed stepchild here as far as the Hall is concerned.

Posted by Dezmond on Saturday, 12.15.12 @ 14:24pm


"If you indeed, look at the ENTIRE history of Popular music, you'll see that Rap/Hip-Hop constitutes only a small part of the overall picture."
"As does 1967-1980 Soul".

Yeah...but unlike 1967-1980 Soul...80's Rap is being recognized by the Hall.

"To hint that the most popular Rap acts are more important than most of the Black Music that came before it is looking at it from a biased perspective of what is popular among young people NOW."

"Wrong. I'm saying that the best, most influential, innovative, important (etc.) Rap acts are better than second rate soul acts ."

Just WHO of the group I mentioned do YOU consider "second rate" ?

"This would be something statistics machine Roy would be good for, but we should count up how many inductees we have so far that rose to fame in the 60's vs. the 70's vs. the 80's. I think you would find that the 80's is the red-headed stepchild here as far as the Hall is concerned."

I'm not talking about ALL 80's music. I'm specifically talking about '80's Rap. There's a difference."

"Where are the nominations/ inductions for artists like The Chi-Lites, The Manhattans, The Spinners, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes,Barry White, Lou Rawls, The Dramatics, The Whispers,Jr Walker & The All-Stars (Motown Era), Mary Wells (ditto) and numerous others...

Also , artists of the Late 70's Funk Era. Only The Parliaments/Funkedelic and Earth, Wind & Fire from this era have been inducted...Yet The Commodores were the biggest group of the Late 70's ...and they have so far failed to garner an induction. Neither has Chaka Khan & Rufus, Kool & The Gang, The Ohio Players,The Bar-Kays, and numerous others ?"

These artists have had a LOT of hit records and extremely long careers...where do you get "second rate" from ? Facts? or your own opinion ?



Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 15:24pm


"Just WHO of the group I mentioned do YOU consider 'second rate'?"

In terms of influence and innovation, most of them.

Way to ignore the most important portion(s) of my argument. Here it is again:

"'To hint that the most popular Rap acts are more important than most of the Black Music that came before it is looking at it from a biased perspective of what is popular among young people NOW.'

Wrong. I'm saying that the best, most influential, innovative, important (etc.) Rap acts are better than second rate soul acts; just as the best soul acts (James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder) are better than most (or all) rap, or any other genre.

'There are numerous ground-braking artists of the last 50 years that have had a much more profound impact than Rap.'

Yes, and 99% of them are in the Hall already.

'How can artists who copy or sample the music of older artists be more important than the artists who ORIGINATED it in the first place?'

Smooth soul bands like the Stylistics didn't ORIGINATE rap. James Brown on the other hand...

'What of the artists from the more than 30 years BEFORE that?'

MOST OF THE VERY IMPORTANT ONES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INDUCTED!!!"

Regarding Rhythm & Blues and Soul music, most of the great artists of this genre have been inducted with the exception of, as I have acknowledged, a few stragglers from the 70's. The point is, however, that, for the most part, the top tier of the R&B and Soul genre HAS BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE HALL.

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 19:45pm


This is my point (in a nutshell): If a person was to sit down and OBJECTIVELY group the 100 greatest popular music artists (based on overall impact, influence, innovation, quality, etc.) in the history of the rock era, Public Enemy and Run-DMC would fall safely inside the Top 100. The Beasties as well would probably fall inside the Top 100 (or just outside it). Not one of the artists you mentioned would be inside the Top 100 or even close.

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 20:01pm



"Just WHO of the group I mentioned do YOU consider 'second rate'?"

Why don't you answer my question ?


"Just WHO of the group I mentioned do YOU consider 'second rate'?"

Be specific.Don't give me the blanket answer.

And how do you know who they've influenced ? Have you done research on them ?

Or are you just assuming that they haven't influenced anyone ?

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 21:43pm


"'Just WHO of the group I mentioned do YOU consider 'second rate'?'

Why don't you answer my question?

Be specific. Don't give me the blanket answer."

It's become clear to me that 'second rate' was too strong a term to use, having too many negative connotations. I meant it in the context of the Hall of Fame being for the greatest artists of all time. In this respect, none of the artists that you mentioned are what I (or many) would call 'first tier'. Does that mean I don't think any of them should be inducted eventually or at all? That was never my argument.

Is that at all satisfactory?? I've all but retracted my 'second rate' comment. I admit that I was probably wrong. However, I still don't consider any of your acts more worthy than any of the inducted Rap groups; save perhaps Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, whose influence on the popular music landscape is still undeniable.

Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 12.17.12 @ 14:55pm


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