The Kingsmen

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Eligible since: 1987 (The 1988 Induction Ceremony)

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Will The Kingsmen be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

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They only had that one classic hit record they will be remembered for. I wonder if that's enough, since they've been eligible for some 20 years now and they've supposedly never been previously considered. On the other hand, if they can induct the Ronettes and Percy Sledge on the strength of one single (basically, I mean, what other songs do you know?), then why not?

Posted by Denyo on Monday, 11.12.07 @ 09:15am


The Kingsmen is what rock is or should be Not over produced just the real stuff,,, raw, live and rockin.. Louie Louie is Rock!!!! The LPS showed what rockers they are... These guys are ROCKERS not HOLLYWOOD HYPE.. Seatle Sound roots
YES YES YES RHOF and YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 10:27am


Back in their day They were one of the best live rock band out there!!!Thet sure can play !

Posted by rockman on Monday, 12.1.08 @ 08:52am


This is a true no brainier YES... or better yet YES!!

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 12.6.08 @ 22:16pm


101% Yes way over do....

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 01.27.09 @ 10:14am


Wasn't "Louie, Louie" a cover of a Paul Revere & The Raiders song?

Posted by Capital T on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 23:19pm


Richard Berry wrote "Louie, Louie" in 1955-so no. Although Paul Revere & The Raiders did record a version of that song in the same Portland, Oregon studio as The Kingsmen did

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 23:25pm


The Raiders' version actually started gaining some steam in the west first, but I'd heard Columbia Records' A&R man pulled the plug on it for some reason...which opened the door for the Kingsmen's version...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 06.30.09 @ 23:31pm


Need I say more.. This is what rock was really about just good fun playing!!
Louie has been in countless motion pictures including, Animal House, Mr. Holland's Opus Quadrophenia, Coupe de Ville, Spaced Invaders, Naked Gun, Past Away, Dave, Jennifer 8, and Down Periscope.

Named by Rolling Stone Magazine as one of the 50 most important recordings in the 20th Century.

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 10.27.09 @ 20:59pm


"As for the Kingsmen..."Louie Louie' is the same three chords...over, and over, and over...!!!! No innovation there, the blues have been accused of that for years before that song came out. It's just a catchy tune that (for some reason) won't go away."--Gitarzan

Maybe so, Git, but isn't the same thing also said about punk music? In a weird way, I consider the Kingsmen proto-punk, in a way... not actual punk, but maybe a root or two that can be traced back to them.

Also, the Kingsmen were arguably the first garage band to break out, laying the path for future acts like ? And The Mysterians, etc. I put Louie Louie on a higher plateau because it really could be argued as the first garage rock song, also laying ground for punk.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 16:44pm


I think Sam the Sham & the Pharoahs (Wooly Bully) were probably the first "garage band" with any measurable success...I know what you're saying, though...

...and just so you know, I bench-pressed a car once (powerlifters, like musicians, are classic B.S.ers)

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 17:42pm


I think the Kingsmen hold their own against Sam The Sham And The Pharaohs... Both had a huge #2 hit... both had a second Top Ten hit. The Kingsmen were ahead of StS&tP by about two years... and I think the only reason the Kingsmen didn't last longer than they did was the British Invasion. Listening to what backlog they have... you really can see garage band groundwork there.

I think StS&tP are revered more as a novelty act, too.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 18:08pm


"Maybe so, Git, but isn't the same thing also said about punk music? In a weird way, I consider the Kingsmen proto-punk, in a way... not actual punk, but maybe a root or two that can be traced back to them." - Philip

This is perfectly understandable. I would say that the same thing applies to The Troggs

Posted by Keebord on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 20:06pm


Why, Philip....how could you say "novelty" with such meaningful lyrics as...

"My girl is red hot...your girl ain't doodly squat...!!!"

...or something like that!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 20:25pm


Earlier this year Wayne Siligo, the music director at the California School for the Blind wrote "Song for Louie" to commemorate the bicentennial of Louis Braille's birth. He used the melody of "Louie, Louie" by the Kingsmen.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 21:14pm


Why, Philip....how could you say "novelty" with such meaningful lyrics as...

"My girl is red hot...your girl ain't doodly squat...!!!"

...or something like that!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 10.29.09 @ 20:25pm


Yes those words were heavy ...kinda like


"Pride And Joy " or "Johnny Be Good" just makes you want to sit and think .

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 05:29am


Git, I meant that they were novelty in the sense that their songs were meant to be novelty songs... y'know, semi-comedic numbers... like Napolean XIV or something.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 05:33am


Git, I meant that they were novelty in the sense that their songs were meant to be novelty songs... y'know, semi-comedic numbers... like Napolean XIV or something.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 05:33am


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I can't really speak for the Kingsmen but I don't think they said lets do a "novelty song"
with Louie Louie .. I think they said lets Rock.. !Now the Green Gaint could fall in to that idea... These cats and it seems they had a lot of players over the years just played to play and enjoyed playing.. You can hear it on most of their early works. The are ROCKERS that enjoy ROCKING OUT.. Gee I thought that is what " ROCK" is about.. Having "FUN"...I didn't know we were doing Mozart..

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 05:57am


I think Louie, Louie is somewhat of an important song in the development of psychedelic 60s blues rock along with tunes like Wooly Bully. It's too bad they don't have a hall of fame for just songs cause both of those songs belong there along with Wild Thing by The Troggs.

What I don't understand is why The Kingsmen are given a whopping 40% chance of induction while a band like The Troggs is only given 9%. I know Louie, Louie was about 3 years before Wild Thing, but that spread is too wide. The Troggs helped lay the foundation for stuff later on-glam and punk. I could see giving The Kingsmen a 25% chance and The Troggs 17%, but giving The Kingsmen 4 times the chance as The Troggs the way they are now is way overbought.

Posted by classicrocker on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 12:29pm


What I don't understand is why The Kingsmen are given a whopping 40% chance of induction while a band like The Troggs is only given 9%. I know Louie, Louie was about 3 years before Wild Thing, but that spread is too wide. The Troggs helped lay the foundation for stuff later on-glam and punk. I could see giving The Kingsmen a 25% chance and The Troggs 17%, but giving The Kingsmen 4 times the chance as The Troggs the way they are now is way overbought.

Posted by classicrocker on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 12:29pm

That is because many on this forum only belive in the HOLLYWOOD HYPE bands.. If it ain't been HYPED it aint good ..These cats are real rockers for the fun of rock.. I don't think they made much $$$ but they can sho...play... !! Louie Louie is one of those songs that have lived a life of a 1000 "HITS"
Just good old "REAL ROCK AND ROLL... !
It is the real Thang!

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 12:38pm


No, mrxyz, I meant Sam The Sham And The Pharaohs were band that made novelty songs... not so much the Kingsmen. Ok, yeah the Kingsmen did have "Jolly Green Giant", but they also had "Long Green", a decent cover of both "Money" and "Killer Joe". Sam the Sham's songs were intentionally silly... Woolly Bully, Little Red Riding Hood, Juju Hand, etc.

classicrocker, Wild Thing and Louie Louie were both anthemic, but only Louie Louie broke any real ground, imo.

And if social conscience means anything (which we know it doesn't), the Kingsmen also get props for the Louie Louie Foundation, which buys back the rights to an artist's songs and returns the rights to that artist. When you consider how many black artists of the 50s and 60s were cheated out of their proper royalties, this becomes an even more awesome organization.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 16:12pm


Philip...that's a good point about the Louie Louie Foundation. Anartist should always have rights to a song they composed...no matter what.

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 10.30.09 @ 16:54pm


"Song For Louie"
Lyrics by Wayne Siligo
Sung to the tune of "Louie, Louie"
By Richard Berry
(Recorded by the Kingsmen)

Now Louie was a man
Born two hundred years ago
And though he couldn't see
He learned a lot more than we know
It bugged him as a kid
That he couldn't learn to write
But later on in school
They would read to him at night

Chorus:
Louie, Louie
Oh, oh We got to read now
Louie, Louie
OH, Oh We got to write now

He played the organ well
And taught his friends the way to play
Yet Louie still believed
He'd read and write someday
Then an army officer
Showed him how to write with dots
But Louie knew for sure
He had to change the bumps a lot

Chorus

He cut the cell in half
And then wrote the alphabet
With slate ang stylus skills
The dots would help him not forget
Here today his code
Can help us pass a test
Folks have tried to change it,
Louie's code is still the best

Chorus

Louie changed the world
Gave us words that we can touch
Do it on our own
Read in English, French ot Dutch
On his special day
Everyone should stand and say
Thank you, Louie Braille
Your code has given us the way!

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 10.31.09 @ 00:28am


Philip - your take is sound and reasonable, but it has one minor flaw. The stupid museum called the RnR Hall of Fame is supposed to be about Innovation, influence and perpetuation of the artform


They also meet the needs

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 11.3.09 @ 11:58am


I'd put Paul Revere & The Raiders in ahead of them

You can't induct everybody

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 06.19.10 @ 04:38am


Kingsmen based on influence, innovation and commercial sucess
Influence:
Louie Louie was a very influential song, any song that can get over 800 covers will be.
YES
Innovation
Not much, they were a pretty standard 60's rock N Roll Band
NO
Commercial Sucess.
After one last hit in 1966 they stopped having significant chart sucess at all. One hit wonder.
NO

So in short, No.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 11.10.10 @ 10:19am


Pros: One of the first garage rock bands to hit mainstream, "Louie Louie" covered many times. Could be argued as proto-punk. (A stretch, but the argument could be made, nevertheless).

Cons: No innovation, very limited influence, especially considering the amount of times "Louie Louie" has been covered. Really proves how covers are more about an artist liking a song than any direct influence. Also, next to no impact "Louie Louie" aside, so could be considered a one-hit wonder.

So in summary, that's a no to the Kingsmen, though they wouldn't be the worst inductee either if it did happen (and it won't). What I don't understand, however is how do Paul Revere and the Raiders and the Troggs, both of which could similarly be argued as proto-punk/garage rock hitting the mainstream only have induction 9% and 8% chances respectively while the Kingsmen have a 39% induction chance? That large of a gap is a joke.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 03.29.11 @ 13:37pm


Where would rock be without them? Louie, Mojo ,
Green Gaint,,,

Posted by justtim on Monday, 05.9.11 @ 22:13pm


Improving on my original anlysis

Influence: Sure, the kingsmen could be counted as pretty damn influential on garage rock. 20
Innovation: The first garage rock band to break out. 20
Critical respect: Apart from louie Louie no one gives a damn about them. 5
Commercial sucess: nope. 0

45, not worth inducting.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.8.11 @ 08:46am


I think they were innovative in that they took a song that nobody rally thought much of and made it one of the 50 best rock songs of all time, according to Rolling Stone. It's still played on a regular rotation, they still perform, and quite well, after all these years.

They should get Kudos for being the first band to sell out 56 consecutive shows before touring was in vogue.

Once the British Invasion hit the US, music sort of died and The Kingsmen were a victim of that death.

Posted by Millie on Monday, 01.2.12 @ 21:02pm


I would have to agree with Mille
they had a lot of other hits besides Louie.
I was just listing to their old Cd,,,
gosh Mo joe song is great
they sure had a good feel. very real and fun stuff... Easy on the ears . makes you want to get up an clap your hands an dance!
Love those old rock bands !

Posted by Happy on Wednesday, 06.13.12 @ 01:17am


Just a fun fact...

The Kingsmen are the highest ranked act on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs list that is NOT in the RRHOF but eligible.

So does this mean they will get in? The Sex Pistols ranks 2 notches down and they got in for their ONE album. So maybe. Procol Harum, who finally got noticed last year by the HOF, is just a notch below from the Pistols.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 07.26.13 @ 20:10pm


Jason.
I am a big Fan of the Kingsmen They had a few great hits ... As I mention a post back from you They had/have great feel in their playing ..You can tell the album budget was small but the playing is BIG!
Let's hope these REAL ROCKERS get in!

Posted by Happy on Friday, 07.26.13 @ 20:56pm


Jack Ely R.I.P

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.28.15 @ 23:33pm


RIP Jack a true rocker

Posted by Happy on Wednesday, 04.29.15 @ 03:05am


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