The Fall

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2003 (The 2004 Induction Ceremony)

Previously Considered? No  what's this?

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The Classical (1982)

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Will The Fall be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."


21 comments so far (post your own)

Mark E. Smith is a strange strange man, and his group The Fall is a strange strange group, zero realistic chance but definitely deserve to be recognized in some way. Maybe an Odd Bastard Hall of Fame?

Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 18:39pm

Kit, that sounds a bit harsh.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 01.10.08 @ 08:54am

It seems as if Mark E. Smith isn't planning on ruining his career any time soon.

Amazing, when you think that he's been going since about 78.

Posted by Liam on Thursday, 02.7.08 @ 12:13pm

Ever since James Brown died, Mark E. Smith is officially the "Hardest Working Man in Show Business". This is the kind of left field choice the hall should make at some point. Smith would be a no-show but that's beside the point (I'd look at the induction as a nice gesture.)

I think the whole problem with the hall is that they want the pageantry, performances, speeches, et al to put on TV. No one really watches it anyway and it was awkward to see the Stooges do that great performance this past year in front of people in tuxes. Get rid of all of that and I think you'd see more striking selections turn up on the ballot.

Posted by Jonas on Wednesday, 12.17.08 @ 23:34pm

"All those whose mind entitles themselves, and whose main entitle is themselves, shall feel the wrath of my bombast!"

The Fall were/are a watershed group, and definitely deserve some kind of recognition. The Hall however is nowhere near cool enough to induct them. Even if they did, I have a feeling Mark E. would give them a John Lydon-esque middle finger.

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 05.11.10 @ 09:33am

I listened to them over the weekend. Pretty good stuff, but nowhere near their contemporaries Echo & the Bunnymen, The Cure, New Order, Joy Division, Gang of Four and Bauhaus. Can someone explain what I'm missing? In the meantime, I'll do some research on whether they're worthy.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 06.30.10 @ 16:31pm

I think one needs to keep in mind here that, along with the Cure, New Order (somewhat), and Echo (more on them later), the Fall (in all its incarnations) is the longest lasting band in this group (and still going). Obviously Joy Division flamed out rather early (after two great studio albums and a number of excellent singles), Gang of Fours rep rests pretty much on their first 2 or 3 albums, and Echo has basically been impactless post 1987. To me Bauhaus's influence is somewhat limited to the Goth rock subgenre, but they had a couple of good albums and some hits. But the Fall's longevity plus their string of great albums in the mid-80's allow them to easily hang with this lofty group. I don't know if you've listened to them or not yet Sam, but check out Wire. Their first two albums Pink Flag and Chairs Missing are genius and they also had a couple of other really good ones.

Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 06.30.10 @ 16:49pm

Thanks Chalkie. I'm on it.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 07.2.10 @ 13:47pm

Not enough-uh recognition-uh for this-uh legendary group-uh... or perhaps the right amount of recognition?

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 10.15.10 @ 18:58pm

I even watched a BBC Documentary (I just moved back) on Mark E. and it included the late Tony Wilson, Paul Morley and members of Franz Ferdinand. It included live footage and footage from a Peel Session. I'm still unimpressed but I wouldn't have a problem with them getting in.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 10.16.10 @ 13:41pm

How did Kit and Jonas get the idea that the Fall are "left field." They hardly strike me as a "left field" act.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 13:44pm

"How did Kit and Jonas get the idea that the Fall are "left field." They hardly strike me as a "left field" act."

What world are you living in? Ask anyone who doesn't live in the UK who the 'the Fall' are and 90% won't have a clue.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.11.11 @ 13:16pm

Probably closer to 95%, actually.

Essential albums:

Hex Enduction Hour
Perverted By Language
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of The Fall
This Nation's Saving Grace

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.11.11 @ 13:29pm

I bet most people who LIVE in the UK don't know who they are either, Chalkie. I've been back nearly a year and I haven't met anybody who's admitted to being a post-punk fan in any way, let alone liking The Fall.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 18:46pm

That's weird, I figured they had a sizable following in Britain. They seem to get a half decent amount of exposure there, from what I can tell... of course, I live in Canada so I guess I wouldn't rightly know.

Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 19:46pm

They only really got succesful in the 90's where they even had a top 10 hit. That all dissapeared after a few years though.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 06:22am

Took them until their fifth album to hit the regular album chart. Took till the eighth to get back on the charts. Took till the tenth to break the Top 40. They've had seven top 40's, two top 20's and one top ten album since. 3 Top 40 singles, the highest reaching #30. I'll let you be the judge of what that means; I'd call that a small cult following. None of the people I know listen to post-punk in general though a couple like The Cure. Still deserve in though.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 08.28.11 @ 18:50pm

What world are you living in? Ask anyone who doesn't live in the UK who the 'the Fall' are and 90% won't have a clue.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 08.11.11 @ 13:16pm

Well I know a lot of people who know who they are. I'll admit they aren't well known, however.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 10.21.11 @ 09:09am

Ask Sonic Youth and Pavement how influential The Fall has been.

Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 06.16.12 @ 15:00pm

Essential albums is missing Live At The Witch Trials. That is their debut album, the first The Fall album most fans hear and it SMOKES. Frightened, Industrial Estate and Underground Medecin are the top tracks.

Posted by Neckbeard on Monday, 10.8.12 @ 09:27am


Just heard that Mark E. Smith passed away.

R.I.P. :(

Posted by Steve Z on Wednesday, 01.24.18 @ 17:52pm

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