The Darkness

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Eligible in: 2027 (The 2028 Induction Ceremony)


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Although their trademark sound is essentially recreating the 70s and 80s power rock emblem, they still posess a talent far superior to any band from the time they were in competition. What's more, they inspired a new breed of faux-retro indie rock to transcend their radio-ready skins and try something new.

Posted by G.M. on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 12:48pm


hahaha this IS a joke right?

huh?

but I thought they were one hit wonders

Posted by liam on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 14:43pm


Shut up liam. I'm sick of you. The Darkness are a great band. They deserve this more than anyone. As for "one-hit wonder," The Sex Pistols got picked and what do you think they were? There's people in the Hall of Fame that didn't have any hits. And this isn't a joke and you're not funny and you bring up stupid points. Now argue with me, you punk.

Posted by Metalsmith on Tuesday, 01.15.08 @ 17:41pm


"The Sex Pistols got picked and what do you think they were?"-Metalsmith

I and anyone else could trace the sound of countless bands back to the Pistols, whereas I'd be surprised if you could scrape even ten who were tangibly influenced by The Darkness. You are probably the only person on the face of the Earth I've ever heard imply the Sex Pistols were a "one-hit wonder."

"There's people in the Hall of Fame that didn't have any hits."-Metalsmith

That's because influence goes beyond hits, and in fact has nothing to do with hits. But those bands were still heard, studied, and imitated by others, and that is what makes them important to music.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 01.15.08 @ 18:29pm


So it's William now, eh? Well, William, it hasn't been long enough to see whether The Darkness will have had an important influence. That's why arguing about these new bands is a trick matter. And if it doesn't matter how many hits you've had, then why did you defend The Sex Pistols as not being one hit wonders? You may be a big fan but "Anarchy in the U.K." is the only song of theirs that is important.

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 05:51am


Metalsmith - William and Liam are two different people.

I love guitar based hard rock, Arena Rock (whatever sub-genre you want to call it) as much as anyone and I certainly would not tell a person what they should or shouldn't listen to. However, I have seen your comments on Nelson and Warrant and were a bit perplexed by them. They both had a couple of top 40 hits, but these are the bands that have been credited for killing a scene, certainly not influencing it. And they are not HoF material by any stretch of the imagination.

As for Darkness, I have to be honest, I just don't see it.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 06:40am


And what about "God Save the Queen"? According to Acclaimed Music, http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/ , it's the 23th greatest song of all time. "Anarchy in the U.K." is number 10, and three other songs are listed in the All Time Top 3000 as well. "I Believe in a Thing Called Love", the only song by The Darkness in the list, is number 1253, outranked by four Sex Pistol songs.

When "Never Mind the Bollocks..." was released in 1977, you saw that it was almost immediately followed by the release of other British punkacts. I can't remember a revival of 70's hardrock when "Permission to Land came out, five years ago.

Posted by Claw on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 06:51am


Dameon, you're a good man. You really know your music. Frankly, I was just kidding about Nelson and Warrant because I happen to like them. And I don't like punk rock, so I can't help arguing with Sex Pistols fans. Sorry if I confused you, man, if there's one person on here who knows what they're talking about in Rock & Roll, it's you.

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 10:54am


Thanks - appreciated, but there are a lot of people here who know there stuff; including the fans of Punk, Indie and all the rest. My biggest problem has always been the separation of the different genres of Rock. In some instances, this site has come off like a war zone. And I have fallen into that myself. I am a fan of the Beatles, The Who, ELP, Led Zep, Queen, Procul Harum, The Pistols, the Clash, XTC, REM, The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, Bad Brains, The Misfits, Def Leppard, Guns and Roses, Enuff z'nuff, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Guided by Voices, Radiohead and so many more. Some people here blast me for liking one kind of music, some blast me for liking music from a completely different set of bands. I think they (sub-genres, except disco) all have merit in one way or another. My arguements are usually based on what I think is going through the minds of those responsible for the Hall of Fame. Personally, I am sorry it was ever created.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 11:11am


Yeah, me too. All it really does, I think, is throw a bone to whoever is willing to pay to have their name on the list. I hear what you're saying but I prefer the separation of genres because it allows people with certain mindsets to isolate the kind of music that speaks to them specifically.

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 11:15am


"And if it doesn't matter how many hits you've had, then why did you defend The Sex Pistols as not being one hit wonders? You may be a big fan but "Anarchy in the U.K." is the only song of theirs that is important."

You're a certifiable idiot. Never Mind the Bollocks single handedly out weighs the entirety of the Darkness' career, both in an objective sense and in a subjective sense.

The Darkness are one of the least innovative groups around, as they are a complete Queen knock-off. Hopefully, they won't have any influence, and people will only remember them for the...3 or 4 hits they've had.

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 11:19am


OK, fine, let me put it like this: The Sex Pistols sucked. Not a one of them could play their instruments, Johnny Rotten had a God-awful voice and what makes them particularly repulsive is their attempt to sell their talentless music by creating controversy and using their political opinions, thereby garnering the necessary attention so that people care enough to listen to their third rate music. The Darkness may be a Queen knock-off but Queen was a great band and therefore, The Darkness are a great band because they have learned from the example of superior musicians. That's the difference.

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 11:55am


"You may be a big fan"-Metalsmith

I'm not.

"but "Anarchy in the U.K." is the only song of theirs that is important."-Metalsmith

If that were true, which it most certainly is not, that would make that probably the single most influential song in the history of music.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 19:54pm


Seriously, guys, in the scale of things, your precious Sex Pistols did not have the greatest influence of any band ever. They certainly made their mark on music by creating British punk, but even that is not the most important accomplishment in music. That would make them about equal in importance to Cream creating British blues-rock or Van Halen inventing hair metal or any of a number of genre innovators.

Posted by Metalsmith on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 05:46am


"Seriously, guys, in the scale of things, your precious Sex Pistols did not have the greatest influence of any band ever."-Metalsmith

No one made that claim, but they have a disproportionately large influence considering how little they released.

I've just about forgotten what your original point was.

Posted by William on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 08:00am


My original point was that liam's labelling The Darkness as a one hit wonder is a weak argument because there are one hit wonders already in the Hall of Fame. I chose The Sex Pistols because they have the most militant fan base and I knew I would get some reaction.

Posted by Metalsmith on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 10:29am


"My original point was that liam's labelling The Darkness as a one hit wonder is a weak argument because there are one hit wonders already in the Hall of Fame."

And? I would never advocate the induction of Chuck Berry. And he had more than one hit, I believe.

"I chose The Sex Pistols because they have the most militant fan base and I knew I would get some reaction."

No, you chose it because you wanted to take a cheap shot at an artist to make your chosen artist seem more deserving. The Darkness could NEVER, EVER get more influence than The Sex Pistols.

And you're an idiot for calling them a one-hit wonder, too, so I've forgotten why I'm even talking to you.

"I've just about forgotten what your [Metalsmith's] original point was."

Moot.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 12:42pm


"I would never advocate the induction of Chuck Berry."-liam

Explain this one.

Posted by William on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 13:59pm


Whoops. I meant to say Chubby Checker. Too hasty, I guess. But in my defense, their names ARE a bit similiar...=\

I fully endorse Chuck Berry.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 14:02pm


Hey Hey Hey, The Sex Pistols were NOT a One Hit Wonder. They Had "Anarchy In The UK" and "God Save The Queen" and "Pretty Vacant" so You Can Just Shut It, And As For The Darkness, They Were Ok, But In The Long Run, Nobody Gives A Crap About 'Em.

Posted by Tyson on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 09:11am


Of course the Darkness shouldn't get in, I have no idea why they're listed on this page.

Just thought I'd chime in on the above discussion. I used to be a metal fan when I was a teenager. In that culture you come across the words "complexity" and "technical" A LOT. Rarely is it followed up upon with any detail. This is a moot, irrelevant point. Art music composers don't give a damn about the "awesome" guitar solo in that Dream Theater song. This point of view, that so called "complexity" is of utmost importance, is ridiculous. Most metal bands might play "complicated" songs due to the speed at which they play but that doesn't remotely constitute what is considered complexity in the western art music tradition.

The "Metal Point of View" is so narrowminded. The world would be dull and grey if they had their way.

Posted by Elastic Man on Wednesday, 12.24.08 @ 02:44am


Well, look who's a professor of music history. Alright, genius. So what exactly constitutes complexity in the Western music tradition? Go ahead, say "The Sex Pistols." Expand my mind with your staggering expertise.
P.S. Dream Theater sucks. Use a better example next time.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 01.11.09 @ 15:45pm


Wow, you really got my number guy.

I wouldn't necessarily call what the Sex Pistols do "complex" either, at least on a superficial level, nor does it matter that they are complex in the way YOU might think. You missed the point; the argument is that so called complexity as a benchmark for good, artful music is baseless and completely pointless. It's not an issue for me but it seems to be one for you. By your logic, minimalist music wouldn't qualify as good music because it may just build on a simple theme or create subtle variation. It doesn't make sense and isn't at all fair to take on all of the different types of music from one point of view.

It doesn't matter if you think Dream Theater sucks, they're the king of bands called "complex" in the metal world. You don't negate a point by simply distancing yourself from the subject.

Explain, what's so complex about a Darkness, Black Sabbath, or Judas Priest song? They're still just using power chords, like most of the metal bands fans call "complex", and they're still using conventional popular song structures. Looking at a transcription for I Believe in a Thing Called Love, it isn't anymore complex than a Sex Pistols song. You're comparing a band playing scruffy, raw power chords (Sex Pistols) to a band playing neat, well executed and produced ones (The Darkness). It's the same thing to serious, learned practitioners of music theory. Neat, tidy sound or an excellent guitar solo doesn't suddenly elevate the music to Bach or Vivaldi or Handel.

The complexity argument for any type of music is bunk but it is especially so for popular music. Popular music has assimilated so many different kinds of music, performance, and aural arts that it can't simply be judged and analyzed in such a formal way. Explain, why should your point of view be dominant in a world of deep and varied expression? Why can't you learn to appreciate the aesthetic properties of these varying forms of music instead of limiting yourself to one?

No, I'm not an expert on music theory, this is just a subject that is plainly ridiculous for anyone with eyes and ears.

Posted by Elastic Man on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 01:28am


Actually I've never used the word complex in any of my observations so using trying to use that against me is completely futile.

Posted by Metalsmith on Saturday, 04.11.09 @ 19:34pm


Metalsmith...your complex mannerisms are giving me a headache...can't you just say "Band X sucks!!!"?

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 04.11.09 @ 19:49pm


Metalsmith - "Actually I've never used the word complex in any of my observations so using trying to use that against me is completely futile."

True, you didn't mention that particular term but it's used so much in the metal lexicon that it's a legitimate argument. If you're going to use The Darkness as an example of "great musicianship", you must think what they're playing is actually more "complex" than the Sex Pistols. It clearly isn't, the difference is negligible. It's an aesthetic difference in this case.

All I tried to point out was that your basis for claiming The Darkness as superior is seriously simpleminded and flawed. It's like a neo-classicist dismissing impressionism or an old Hollywood producer dismissing the French New Wave for not adhering to their formal principles. Both of these movements had a massive impact on their respective fields just as the Sex Pistols did on their own.

(Note: The Sex Pistols influence is more pervasive than the cliche punk genre you affiliate them with. For example, a gig they played in Manchester was instrumental in punk's progression to post-punk. Some of these bands like Joy Division/New Order, emphasis on the latter incarnation, would turn out to be pivotal to rock's development in the following decade. John Lydon himself would form a post-punk band following the Sex Pistols demise that was similarly important...Public Image Ltd.)

Posted by Elastic Man on Saturday, 04.11.09 @ 22:48pm


Here we go again. All of you with your constant references to the "post-punk" genre as the ultimate example of musical genius are just as narrow-minded and judgmental as I. Stop trying to take me to school on everything, my mind is made up just like yours.

Posted by Metalsmith on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 21:42pm


When it comes to music my mind is never totally made up...

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 21:46pm


Actually think these guys had a few good songs than just "I Believe in a Thing Called Love". These guys did a good job reviving glam rock. Maybe nothing hall of fame worthy, but they were a good band.

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 21:54pm


They were a fantastic live band as well. It's really a shame they burned out so soon. They had a lot to offer.

Posted by Metalsmith on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 21:58pm


They had a few more hits in the UK, we Americans just didn't catch on to thier sound. If you really think about some of the '70s glam rock acts they had trouble catching on in America too. T.Rex are usually remembered as the "Get it On" band and Mott the Hoople the "All the Young Dudes" band(not that I'm saying they are in the same class as T.Rex or MoT though), but the Darkness were a fun band.

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 07.17.09 @ 22:13pm


the Darkness was not a one hit wonder, well they were in the us but not britain where they were probably the biggest band of the time. they had a lot more hits then just "i believe in a thing called love"

Posted by Thomass on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 15:42pm


Darkness seem more like a parody band than anything serious.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 05.15.10 @ 08:48am


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