Peggy Lee

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 1973 (The 1974 Induction Ceremony)

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Will Peggy Lee be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

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Fever and Big Spender

Posted by Qazisaidso on Thursday, 02.12.09 @ 18:31pm


Wow she is not in This is a SIN
YES

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 02.24.09 @ 20:49pm


Only 7 votes and you guys on this forum spend hours talking about Madonna or Back Street...to FUNNY

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 02.24.09 @ 20:50pm


mrxyz, I can see laughing at such big Backstreet Boys discussons, but, even if you're not a Madonna fan, hopefully you understand that she is highly regarded, and considered one of the most important acts of the last 25 years. Regardless that some may not think she's as important musically as some other acts, she is an acclaimed artist, and that cannot be denied.

The only thing funny about a lot of Madonna discussion in terms of the RNR HOF at this point is that she's in the Hall of Fame, so debating that aspect is pointless.

Peggy Lee, I honestly couldn't name another of her songs outside of "Fever." That's not to take away from her, but you can see her induction chances are not very high.

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 02.25.09 @ 13:52pm



mrxyz, I can see laughing at such big Backstreet Boys discussons, but, even if you're not a Madonna fan, hopefully you understand that she is highly regarded, and considered one of the most important acts of the last 25 years. Regardless that some may not think she's as important musically as some other acts, she is an acclaimed artist, and that cannot be denied.

The only thing funny about a lot of Madonna discussion in terms of the RNR HOF at this point is that she's in the Hall of Fame, so debating that aspect is pointless.

Peggy Lee, I honestly couldn't name another of her songs outside of "Fever." That's not to take away from her, but you can see her induction chances are not very high.


Honestly Ican't name her song other than "Material Girl".. And she did "Fever" It was not to bad ,,
She should be in Broadway..


Peggy Lee is what Madonna whated to be.. She has the HYPE but . Peggy can sing rings around her..

I would say early influence is for sho...
She moved from Swing to Jazz to Country to Rock..

Wow ....Now that is some kinda Changes

Seems all many talk about is now,, Not that it ain't important .. But no less than yesterday in the Hall of Fame..It is hard to be a LEDGEND when you are still hitting...LOL













"I Got It Bad and That Ain't Good" 25
1941 "Winter Weather" (w/ Art Lund) 24
"Blues in the Night" 20
"Somebody Else is Taking My Place" 1
"My Little Cousin" 14
"We'll Meet Again" 16
"Full Moon" 22
"The Way You Look Tonight" 21
1943 "Why Don't You Do Right" 4
1945 "Waitin' for the Train to Come in" 4
1946 "I'm Glad I Waited for You" 24
"I Don't Know Enough About You" 7
"Linger in My Arms a Little Longer, Baby" 16
"It's All Over Now" 10
1947 "It's a Good Day" 16
"Everything's Moving too Fast" 21
"Chi-baba, Chi-baba (My Bambino, Go to Sleep)" 10
"Golden Earrings" 2
1948 "Manana" 1
"All Dressed up with a Broken Heart" 21
"For Every Man, There's a Woman" 25
"Laroo, Laroo, Lili Bolero" 13
"Talking to Myself About You" 23
"Don't Smoke in Bed" 22
"Caramba! It's the Samba" 13
"Baby, Don't Be Mad at Me" 21
"Somebody Else is Taking My Place" (re-issue) 30
"Bubble Loo, Bubble Loo" 23
1949 "Blum Blum, I Wonder Who I Am" 27
"Similau (See-Me-Lo)" 17
"Bali Ha'i" 13
"Riders in the Sky (A Cowboy Legend)" 2
1950 "The Old Master Painter" (w/ Mel Torme) 9
"Show Me the Way to Get out of This World" 28
1951 "(When I Dance with You) I Get Ideas" 14
1952 "Be Anything (But Be Mine)" 21
"Lover" 3
"Watermelon Weather" (w/ Bing Crosby) 28
"Just One of Those Things" 14
"River, River" 23
1953 "Who's Gonna Pay the Check" 22
"Baubles, Bangles, and Beads" 30
1954 "Where can I go Without You" 28
"Let Me go, Lover" 26
1956 "Mr. Wonderful" 14
"Joey, Joey, Joey" 76
1958 "Fever" 8
"Light of Love" 63
"Sweetheart" 98
1959 "It's Okay, You Win" 68
"My Man" 81
"Hallelujah, I Love Him So" 77
1963 "I'm a Woman" 54
1965 "Pass Me by" 93 20
"Free Spirits" 29
1966 "Big Spender" 9
"That Man" 31
"You've Got Possibilities" 36
"So, What's New" 20
"Walking Happy" 14
1967 "I Feel it" 8
1969 "Spinning Wheel" 24
"Is That All There is" 11 1
"Whistle for Happiness" 13
1970 "Love Story" 105 26
"You'll Remember Me" 16
"One More Ride on the Merry-Go-Round" 21
1972 "Love Song" 34
1974 "Let's Love" 22


[edit] Filmography
The Powers Girl (1943)
Stage Door Canteen (1943)
Banquet of Melody (1946) (short subject)

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 02.25.09 @ 18:15pm


One of the VERY "BEST SINGERS" IT IS A TRUE SHAME SHE IS NOT IN>>> BEYOND THEM ALL

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 12.12.09 @ 08:56am


With only 44 votes It makes this fourm look silly sad .. Her is all WOMAN ,LADY ,TALENT..from swing, jazz , blues .pop, rock you name she did it!!! One real HOT LADY..A real looker ,a true singing "GODDESS" Her an Cline are way past due/do
"FEVER" A LONE SHOULD put her IN don't ya think "BIG SPENDER"..? or is "That All There Is.".? or do we need "One More Ride on the Merry-Go-Round"..?

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 11:47am


If I had a chance to see ABBA
Genesis
Jimmy Cliff
The Hollies
The Stooges
It would be PEGGY LEE
even if it were her just singing "Why Don't You Do Right"

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 12.21.09 @ 12:01pm


Over looked but not forgotin


A real talent!!!! swing ,boogie,jazz, rock blues ..you name it SHE did IT real good !! One hot lookin women to boot... 110% yes

Posted by Mrxyz on Sunday, 01.17.10 @ 15:07pm


Now here is some real strange voting only 51 votes {OMG} and even worse only 65% yes.. She meets almost if not every catagory 101% . and all real woman.. from :Somebody Else is Taking My Place , Fever even Big Spender and beyond no doubt she is all YES

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 21:18pm


Be careful here. You could argue a song like Fever was the start down a slippery slope of sensuousness in singing that begat Donna Summer's Love To Love You Baby which begat Madonna which begat Britney, Lady Gaga........

Posted by Xylophonist on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 22:42pm


Be careful here. You could argue a song like Fever was the start down a slippery slope of sensuousness in singing that begat Donna Summer's Love To Love You Baby which begat Madonna which begat Britney, Lady Gaga........

Posted by Xylophonist on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 22:42pm
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Or else you could argue that it was an incredibly sexy & quite catchy song, w/singing that matched the intended words & style.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 01.28.10 @ 17:20pm


She is a reaL CLASS ACT.. I think her tunes: Why Don't You Do Right "Is That All There is,Spinning Wheel and Fever" .. say volumes of a real LEGEND.. Don't you?

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 01.28.10 @ 21:00pm


And you could further argue that "Fever" has gotten it's just recognition with the induction of LWJ, and that his original version was at least a full year before Peggy Lee. You could also further argue that she was basically a female pop singer cut from the same cloth as Patti Page and Doris Day, and that inducting her would be just as justifiable as inducting Page and/or Day.

P.S. I love that I have to reduce an inductee to initials to circumvent the spam filter. Just thought the powers that be should be aware.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 16:51pm


In 1960 Elvis did a version of "Fever" that is similar to Peggy Lee's, but much better (IMO)...

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 17:42pm


1960 Elvis did a version of "Fever" that is similar to Peggy Lee's, but much better (IMO)...

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 17:42pm


Many have done Fever even Maddona but mo better never...She should be IN

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 22:17pm


And you could further argue that "Fever" has gotten it's just recognition with the induction of LWJ, and that his original version was at least a full year before Peggy Lee. You could also further argue that she was basically a female pop singer cut from the same cloth as Patti Page and Doris Day, and that inducting her would be just as justifiable as inducting Page and/or Day.
Posted by Philip on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 16:51pm


Nothing to argue about ...she should be IN There is only one Peggy Lee Gee all of this and only 55 votes with only 65% yes?? LOL {SHAME} I guess as she once sang.... Why don't you do right..... Lets face it there have been many that have tried but none have come close..From Swing ,Country, Blues boogie woogie rock you name she did it and 100% all women......

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 22:28pm


"Lets face it there have been many that have tried but none have come close."--mrxyz

Tried what and come close to what? Her version did give the song a certain amount of sex that the rock'n'roll attitude identifies with. An amount of sexuality that was missing from LWJ's version; however, she was a pop singer who was of the same variety as Page and Day, really.

"From Swing ,Country, Blues boogie woogie rock you name she did it"

That can be said for a lot of REAL rockers, including some who aren't in the Hall.

"and 100% all women......"

Ugh.... This statement is so annoying. This statement implies that to be Rock 'n' Roll or even a professional musician is less than feminine. This kind of statement is in line with those who say Wanda Jackson deserved her induction as an Early Influence, not as a Performer. Arguments like this claim that Rock'n'roll has a pink timeline for girls and a blue one for boys. It doesn't. Influence is influence, regardless of gender, and time is time for women and men alike. "Fever", in the echelons of rock'n'roll history will be remembered foremost as the R&B standard by LWJ, not the sultry, seductive version by Lee. Gitarzan makes a better point by saying that Elvis copied her style for his version rather than LWJ's, than you have in this entire thread. Peggy Lee has a better chance as an EI since she actually DID predate rock'n'roll, with a career that began in the '40s.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 00:13am


Lee was nominated for 12 Grammy Awards, winning Best Contemporary Vocal Performance for her 1969 hit "Is That All There Is?" In 1995 she was given the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award.

Philip Gitarzan and all
There is more to hear than Fever with PL. Hear we go again thiking they (She}is/are just one hit wonders .. OMG to funny Do yourself a big favor and listen to her .. ALL YA NEED IS EARS
PS Elvis Fever is good but Peggys is better

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 06:55am


I've listened to a lot of Peggy Lee...I think she's great. It wouldn't bother me to see her in as an "early influence". She obviously influenced Elvis a bit, otherwise why would he emulate a song using her style. Just because he did it better is certainly no knock on her.

After all, the old blues players aren't nearly as accomplished of musicians as the guys who came after, but they're still held in high regard...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 09:01am


After all, the old blues players aren't nearly as accomplished of musicians as the guys who came after, but they're still held in high regard...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 09:01am



The Old Blues guys have the "talent" any one can copy if you call Charlie Christian lack of accomplishment or Benny Goodman, Kurpa ,Muddy Waters, Lonnie Johnson Duke Ellington, Charley Patton etc etc then you need to Lots of so called femal singing act try to get close to PL with little luck.. Funny they all sound great with out gizmos backing them up! I wonder Why..?

YES TO PEGGY LEE

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:15am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Waters' playing was elementary by today's standards, at best...and that's leaving out using "gizmos"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am


You can say that again, Git!

Yeah, I know Peggy was a LOT more than Fever; unfortunately, that's considered her legacy... wrongly so. Like Git, I think her chances teem more abundantly in the EI category. Her post-'55 career was a dwindling one for starters, and secondly, it was more of a "sanitized R&B" style she did then (which is ironic, since her version of "Fever" has more sex to it than LWJ's), and we know how the Hall people feel about cover artists... look at Pat Boone, the Diamonds, Johnny Rivers... and where they're NOT.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 14:25pm


Yeah, I know Peggy was a LOT more than Fever; unfortunately, that's considered her legacy


Only for people born after 1970 would be my guess

we know how the Hall people feel about cover
artists...
They love them
Ventures come in mind

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 14:31pm


It helps to know the difference between blues and jazz...Charlie Christian was a very innovative and complex jazz player (which is why he fit in so well with Goodman). Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 10:57am




She sang with Goodman in two 1943 films, Stage Door Canteen and The Powers Girl.

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 14:42pm


LOL Ok, you have a point with the Ventures... but I mean AS A RULE... besides which, the Ventures didn't steal primarily from the Black artists like those I mentioned did. At times, it amazes me Elvis got in.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 16:12pm


Philip
She should be In years ago ..... She is one all talent real beauty .. Sit yourself down in an easy chair someday and let Peggy give you some real Fever Mr. Wonderful, for a hour or 3...

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 17:22pm


Well, any song can be enjoyed (theoretically) in the proper milieu. Still doesn't mean that artist should be in.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 19:08pm


Be careful here. You could argue a song like Fever was the start down a slippery slope of sensuousness in singing that begat Donna Summer's Love To Love You Baby which begat Madonna which begat Britney, Lady Gaga........

Posted by Xylophonist on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 22:42pm

Philip
That should give you a hint.... I assume it takes talent and influance ..She has them in spades.. She is the orignal ..Gee you are young LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 20:51pm


Peggy Lee is also widely regarded as one of the most influential jazz vocalists of all time, being cited as a mentor to diverse artists such as; Judy Garland, Frank Sinatra, Paul McCartney, Bette Midler, Madonna and Dusty Springfield.

In her 60-year-long career, Peggy was the recipient of three Grammy Awards, including the Lifetime Achievement Award, an Academy Award nomination, The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) Award; the Presidents Award, the Ella Award for Lifetime Achievement and the Living Legacy Award, from the Women's International Center. In 1999 Peggy Lee was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame.[2]

[edit] Songwriting


I can't think of anyone with a career that wrote songs and sang: country ,jazz, blues ,swing ,boogie woggie ,rock and charted in all of them !!!!Maybe Sinatra but I don't think so..

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 21:05pm


"Philip
That should give you a hint.... I assume it takes talent and influance ..She has them in spades.. She is the orignal ..Gee you are young LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 20:51pm"

One, I didn't say the quote you quoted. I'm not Xylophonist. Second, my age has absolutely nothing to do with this, so don't try to make it an issue.

Third, the awards don't mean a thing. The Four Seasons never won a Grammy, nor did the Beach Boys until they got an honorary Lifetime Achievement Grammy, and both of them are in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Sisqo won a Grammy, and will never be inducted.

Four, diversity isn't that important unless it manifests itself in terms of influence. Now, that said, you did list a few who have cited Lee as an influence:

Judy Garland, Frank Sinatra, Paul McCartney, Bette Midler, Madonna and Dusty Springfield.

Judy, Frank, and Bette have nothing to do with Rock'n'Roll (aside from the fact that there aren't many in the music biz who don't revere Frank, but that still doesn't make him important to the actual style and genre that is rock'n'roll music). Madonna, even you agree was a bad call, so who cares who influenced her? You also admitted you don't like solo McCartney either. And even if you're talking more about his Beatles career, I would ask, where is the influence? Where do you hear Peggy's influence in the way Paul sings or plays rock'n'roll at all? It's a legit question, and one that ought to be answered if you're going to make an argument for Peggy Lee's induction. It's one thing to say you were influenced by someone, but quite another for someone else to say they hear overtones reminiscent of an artist in another artist's music. Dusty Springfield... I can buy that one. But Dusty is a middling call, too... a somewhat questionable inductee (though I have nothing against her induction).

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 01.31.10 @ 00:44am


Philip
Did not say you said it. ... IU was quoting Xylophonist
from Madonna, Beyonce even Pink and hundreds have Peggy in them . ....Everybody knows thats the way it goes.. she is Peggy Lee..... Peggy LEE IS THE FONDATIONS FOR SO MANY ..Even Elvis and the BeaTles have a part of Peggy in their voices sometimes ...When you get a chance just open your ears and enjoy her... she is a smooth and warm as a hot knife cutting through cold butter..All you need is EARS

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 01.31.10 @ 21:50pm


For anyone to question Peggys right to rock is a classic imbecile of foolishness.
If you want to know real rock, listen to her "Sweet Nothin"
For those of you that are to young to know any better ,it is time for you to grow up .
Thank you

Posted by L-7 on Monday, 02.1.10 @ 16:12pm


So basically, L-7 is mrxyz in a more inflammatory mood... looking for any reason to look down on someone. What an idiot.

My ears are perfectly open... but when it comes to singing, you realize that the way someone sang unfortunately has little to do with whether or not they're considered. FTR, I don't hear any of Peggy Lee in Paul McCartney's singing.

But moreover, consider the Four Freshmen, whose style of singing is cited by Brian Wilson, Bob Gaudio, and Levi Stubbs as influential to the harmony styles of the Beach Boys, the Four Seasons, and the Four Tops. And yet, the Four Freshmen have yet to be inducted as Early Influences. Frank Sinatra... if you hated Sinatra even as late as the 60's... you had no chance in the music business. Even Jim Morrison said he loved his voice. But Frank Sinatra has not been inducted as an Early Influence, either. Warm and smooth singing is relatively unimportant (not completely unimportant, mind you)... it's the musical styles, the rhythms... THOSE are the things that matter more to the HoF people. And I've never heard Madonna, Lady Gaga, or Beyonce say they were influenced by Peggy Lee... in fact, I doubt if any of those three have even heard of her.

Maybe she does belong in as an EI... you'll NEVER get her in as a Performer. Just won't happen. Her rock era career was about "sanitizing" R&B. But as far as the HoF's willingness to induct jazz singers... if Ella's not in, Peggy's an even tougher sell.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 02.2.10 @ 19:32pm


I just read Mr Philips comments. All I can say is you are not me.... As far as the Mrxyz I would have to say ,that he is a rather unique but odd chap . I have not seen the likes of since Greenwich Village in the early 60's.. I hope that he remains indifferent to my personal opinions.He is expendable.. I find Philips comments on Peggy lee as uniform ,childish and just play foolish... an unworthy of any further comments ,unless provoked ....

Posted by L-7 on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 21:54pm


I've never heard Madonna, Lady Gaga, or Beyonce say they were influenced by Peggy Lee... in fact, I doubt if any of those three have even heard of her.

Maddona does a "Fever" and very well done in my opinion,one of her better hits ! The odds of them never hearing of her is doubtful. It appears you need to do some fun home work and listen to Peggy . I have seen some very nice YOUTUBES of her. I was told by a close friend of mine ,that he was at the recording studio when the legendary great Peggy Lee was recording "Is that All there IS" . She asked the musicians and engineers to please leave the room. She sat at the control board alone for a while ,gathered her thoughts, made a few changes in the sheet music and ask them back in..The rest is history..
As far as L-7 statement and yours {Philip}all I can say is Wow LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 11:46am


Beyonce sings " FEVER" on her The Fighting Temptations CD just to let ya know...... Like I said the likely hood for them not knowing Peggy Lee and much of her talent an being inspired is un likely..

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 13:17pm


I'm sorry, but I have listened to Peggy Lee's music. There is nothing rock'n'roll about her music. It's straight-laced white pop. It's not even that jazzy. She's about as "rock'n'roll" as Henry Mancini.

And just because Beyonce covers Fever doesn't mean she knows that Peggy Lee did it first.

And again, just because you cover a song does not mean you were influenced by the artist or their overall style/sound. Major difference between the two.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 22:40pm


And even then, Peggy Lee didn't record it first... that was LWJ.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 22:42pm


So Philip... You are quite familiar with Peggy works. Madonna who sometimes emulates Peggy and Beyonce have both recorded "Fever". You think they may not know who Peggy is, may have not heard any of her music...less have been influenced by her ?
Are you trying to be like the person that says it is daytime when it is nighttime LOL

Please read up a few post an see how many musical transitions Peggy has had.....This conversion is over

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 23:05pm


Rock she is not.. Blues she is among :swing ,country jazz so rock {I am a Woman} and etc... look at Benny Goodman - "Why Dont You Do Right" on youtube not counting Fever and many others.. She is up there with Billie Holiday in my book...It is called "Influence".. When you she her dance show as in "Big Spender' look at youtube I think you will see many of today's female acts "trying" to emulating her sultry style..There are many "real" blues musicians in the RRHOF

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 03.5.10 @ 23:29pm


Her singing with Benny Goodman is not her solo career. Maybe it's just me, but I consider big band records where one is the featured vocalist and the solo career of an artist two separate entities. If you wanted to induct her with the Benny Goodman Orchestra, maybe, but I suspect the Hall would only honor Benny himself.

Personally I don't think Madge or Beyonce emulate Peggy all that well. Madge just thrives on trying to be sexual (not sultry) and controversial. Same with Beyonce, though not as controversial. Peggy wasn't exactly known for wearing clothing that revealing. Also, and more importantly, that's only image you're describing. That has nothing to do with music. Being sexy is not a musical note. Dressing flirtatiously is not a style of music. Stylistically, they were not influenced by Peggy, as their music has nothing jazz and very little blues about them.

"This conversion is over"

Yes, you failed to convert me.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 01:02am


philip
I am sorry you have not reached a more suffocated view on what blues is an "influence" means . In the music bizz ,your stage presences can be as important as the musical content. She has both.. If I am not mistaken ,you are still of the belief stage that the "Producer" has very little to do with the out come of the music...You seem eager to learn. In time, I feel quite assured, your understanding will grow..Until then, enjoy the music keep on growing .

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 10:49am


for those of you that don't think Peggy has influence on rock and blues. Even Elvis sang Peggy's version of Fever .In her 60-year-long career, Peggy was the recipient of three Grammy Awards, including the Lifetime Achievement Award, an Academy Award nomination, The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) Award; the Presidents Award, the Ella Award for Lifetime Achievement and the Living Legacy Award, from the Women's International Center. In 1999 Peggy Lee was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame.[2]d

With all of that, how could any singer specially female of any salt not have been influenced by her either directly or in directly ?

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 11:13am


http://songwritershalloffame.org/index.php/exhibits/bio/C166

Peggy Lee was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1999, but she didn't write two of her biggest hits, Fever and Hey Big Spender.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 12:27pm


eggy Lee was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1999, but she didn't write two of her biggest hits, Fever and Hey Big Spender.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 12:27pm

So true.. But if had not been for Peggy ,unlikely they would have been hits... She was the first singing "blond bomb shell" of the 20th century.. Even Marylin Monroe took to her style ...Ps she can sing and write ,,!Also Back them there wasn't much cosmetic surgery if ya know what I mean LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 18:53pm


mrxyz, I don't think the Rock Hall acknowledges "indirect influence". Look at Buchanan And Goodman... they pretty much invented sampling. Yet, no hip-hoppers have ever acknowledged the work they did, or even the fact that the court case decision that declared B&G's work to be a "new form of art" is the reason hip-hoppers aren't doing hard time for stealing from other copyrighted works. B&G set a major legal precedent that enabled hip-hop to exist, but because most hip-hoppers and rappers have no clue who they were and none have ever acknowledged them, they'll never said to be influential.

By the same token, you're asking me to believe that Madge, Beyonce, and Lady Gaga are actually smart and cultured enough to have actually heard of Peggy Lee.... I'm sorry, that's just asking a bit too much. Well, Madge may have heard of her; listening to her make her induction speech, you realize she's a smarter cookie than she lets on. Beyonce knows her Aretha and Etta, but I don't think she really has influences on the other side of the color barrier. As for Lady Cuckoo..... considering she thinks grinding into your partner on the dance floor constitutes "soul"... yeah, she has no clue who Peggy Lee is.

And don't feel bad for me. My tastes aren't "suffocated." They're breathing just fine, deep breaths in and out. Jazz just isn't my bag, and her style really isn't all that bluesy.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 22:41pm


PHILIP
You completely miss the point and are clueless on this subject and maybe what real talent is . I do feel someday ,you will see the light..I will try to add one more point. I think she was the first big White Female act that sang the blues and made it ok for Middle America to listen to..Along with the other mentioned ground breaking influences,which are extensive. It is funny ,facts seem to not affect your opinion but Hype does..Until then ,I guess as Peggy sang "Is that All there IS"...?

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 08:40am


As far as she singing the "blues" among many other types of music ..She won "the Ella Award for Lifetime Achievement" that may give you a clue ..LOl
"Very few "artist can go from one style to another an do it "right" She can..! From Swing,Jazz,Blues, Boogie Woogie, Rock, Pop, Broadway ,Country and etc..... That is talent and Influence ...

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 09:06am


I am on a roll LOL"Fever" is a song credited to Eddie Cooley and "John Davenport" (a pseudonym for Otis Blackwell). The song was a rhythm and blues hit for Little Willie John that crossed over and became a pop standard after being transformed, with additional lyrics, by Peggy Lee, on her album All Aglow Again. In the interim, Ray Peterson and Earl Grant had singles of the song which became regional hits.

"Fever" published in 1956 and originally recorded by Little Willie John, as a double sided hit, along with the number ten, R&B single, "Letter From My Darling". Little Willie John's version of "Fever" was a number one hit, for three weeks, on the R&B Best Sellers chart, which also made the popular charts as an early Rock'n'Roll song peaking at number twenty-four[1]. In 1958, Peggy Lee's cover version was even more popular, peaking at number eight on the US pop charts. The song became a signature song for Peggy Lee.

Elvis Presley recorded a near identical version to Lee's two years later for his 1960 album, Elvis Is Back!.

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 09:16am


I would think nowadays Peggy Lee's influence is "indirect"...a lot of singers out there now are influenced by artists who were in turn influenced by Lee. Singers today are by and large guilty of "if you don't know where you've been, how do you know where you're going?"...I'm just not sure there's that much interest in researching the origins of jazz and popular music, which knowing about Peggy Lee would require.

There's a big difference in wanting to be a "great singer" (which would pretty much take care of everything else) as opposed to a "pop star"...which is what the "American Idol" generation is all about. Most of these singers wouldn't recognize a real "Diva" if they walked up and kicked them...which they probably would!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 09:31am


"You completely miss the point and are clueless on this subject and maybe what real talent is."

No, I get the point, but I think your point is fallacious. You're saying that those influenced by those who were influenced by those who were influenced by Peggy Lee were themselves influenced by Peggy Lee. I don't think indirect influence is a credible argument. Certainly not to the Rock Hall. They haven't inducted those who influenced most of the Early Influences, have they? While I admit to not being the biggest devotee to jazz and blues, I do recognize talent. Peggy Lee IS talented. And classy. And sultry in her appeal. And all of that means approximately dick when it comes to the Rock Hall. Again, I don't agree that those who influenced image are necessarily worthy. We haven't inducted those who designed the Beatles boots or suits, or those who designed the Sgt. Pepper's uniforms, or of Elton John's many costumes. Similarly, those musicians who were only influential in terms of image and not necessarily in terms of music (and even then, it needs to be more than vocal stylings, apparently) aren't necessarily deserving just projecting an image that's been copied over the years. Rest assured, if Frank Sinatra hadn't been such a heartthrob, rockers wouldn't have tried to be like him, and even he wouldn't even be seriously discussed (on this site anyway) for Early Influence honors. Rockers were influenced by his charisma and sex appeal more than they were by the music. Even T-Bone Walker, whose stage moves Elvis imitated, was incredibly influential with his great blues numbers like "They Call It Stormy Monday (But Tuesday's Just As Bad)".

"I will try to add one more point. I think she was the first big White Female act that sang the blues and made it ok for Middle America to listen to.."

The blues were always ok to listen to. It was only the racism of America, of all social strata, really, that made it "not ok". I will give her credit for helping people to realize that there's nothing evil about the blues, but there a number of artists that would say that also did a lot of showing that Black music wasn't evil that should be in before Peggy: Pat Boone, Johnny Rivers, and the Diamonds top the list for me.

"Along with the other mentioned ground breaking influences,which are extensive. It is funny ,facts seem to not affect your opinion but Hype does..Until then ,I guess as Peggy sang "Is that All there IS"...?"

Again, I would say that indirect influence isn't a sound argument. I wish it were, but that's probably what keeps the Rock Hall from becoming an "Encyclopedia With Walls."

"As far as she singing the "blues" among many other types of music ..She won "the Ella Award for Lifetime Achievement" that may give you a clue ..LOl"

That the award is meaningless. They named a blues award after a woman who is much more closely identified with jazz than blues. If they had called it the Bessie Award or the Billie Award, that might mean more. But again, by and large, the Rock Hall doesn't really consider awards.

"Very few "artist can go from one style to another an do it "right" She can..! From Swing,Jazz,Blues, Boogie Woogie, Rock, Pop, Broadway ,Country and etc..... That is talent and Influence ... "

No, that's only talent, which I've never said she wasn't. It's only influence if others in those various genres are taking musical cues from her. For example, Dean Martin released a country album, but no one talks about his influence on country music. Talent, but not influence.

And I would say this simply: Elvis choosing to emulate her style of "Fever" rather than LWJ's is NOT landmark enough to warrant induction. Elvis was also a man of incredibly diverse talent. "Fever" isn't "Bo Diddley", "Rock Around The Clock", or even "The Twist" in terms of the echelons of foundational songs of rock'n'roll.

I can go along with Peggy as a possible Early Influence, but as a Performer? Never.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 12:34pm




I would think nowadays Peggy Lee's influence is "indirect"...a lot of singers out there now are influenced by artists who were in turn influenced by Lee. Singers today are by and large guilty of "if you don't know where you've been, how do you know where you're going?"...I'm just not sure there's that much interest in researching the origins of jazz and popular music, which knowing about Peggy Lee would require.

There's a big difference in wanting to be a "great singer" (which would pretty much take care of everything else) as opposed to a "pop star"...which is what the "American Idol" generation is all about. Most of these singers wouldn't recognize a real "Diva" if they walked up and kicked them...which they probably would!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 09:31am


I agree kinda but most new musicians don't know who Billie Holiday is ... In many ways Peggy is the white Billie Holiday and Marilyn Monroe wrapped in 1 ..I am sure Madonna knows who she is She try's to copy's her often LOL a matter of fact ..I think most of today's Diva know who she is lots of them do Fever Kinda hard not to know her.....

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 18:30pm


mrxyz...I've talked to young aspiring guitarists who don't know who Jimi Hendrix is...try THAT one on for size!!!

It's a sad state of affairs...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 19:10pm


Gitarzan

No comment

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 21:05pm


I can go along with Peggy as a possible Early Influence, but as a Performer? Never.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 12:34pm

I would agree on that.. As mentioned she is kinda like the blond Billie Holiday only hotter looking lol

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 21:09pm


A mis justice that she is not In

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 13:17pm


Point in Case 83 votes 61%...???? Britney Spears 6386 votes 69% chance, I like Britney but she will never get close to Peggy.. Let the debate continue? LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 05.19.10 @ 22:30pm


I Got It Bad and That Ain't Good" 25
1941 "Winter Weather" (w/ Art Lund) 24
"Blues in the Night" 20
"Somebody Else is Taking My Place" 1
"My Little Cousin" 14
"We'll Meet Again" 16
"Full Moon" 22
"The Way You Look Tonight" 21
1943 "Why Don't You Do Right" 4
1945 "Waitin' for the Train to Come in" 4
1946 "I'm Glad I Waited for You" 24
"I Don't Know Enough About You" 7
"Linger in My Arms a Little Longer, Baby" 16
"It's All Over Now" 10
1947 "It's a Good Day" 16
"Everything's Moving too Fast" 21
"Chi-baba, Chi-baba (My Bambino, Go to Sleep)" 10
"Golden Earrings" 2
1948 "Manana" 1
"All Dressed up with a Broken Heart" 21
"For Every Man, There's a Woman" 25
"Laroo, Laroo, Lili Bolero" 13
"Talking to Myself About You" 23
"Don't Smoke in Bed" 22
"Caramba! It's the Samba" 13
"Baby, Don't Be Mad at Me" 21
"Somebody Else is Taking My Place" (re-issue) 30
"Bubble Loo, Bubble Loo" 23
1949 "Blum Blum, I Wonder Who I Am" 27
"Similau (See-Me-Lo)" 17
"Bali Ha'i" 13
"Riders in the Sky (A Cowboy Legend)" 2
1950 "The Old Master Painter" (w/ Mel Torme) 9
"Show Me the Way to Get out of This World" 28
1951 "(When I Dance with You) I Get Ideas" 14
1952 "Be Anything (But Be Mine)" 21
"Lover" 3
"Watermelon Weather" (w/ Bing Crosby) 28
"Just One of Those Things" 14
"River, River" 23
1953 "Who's Gonna Pay the Check" 22
"Baubles, Bangles, and Beads" 30
1954 "Where can I go Without You" 28
"Let Me go, Lover" 26
1956 "Mr. Wonderful" 14
"Joey, Joey, Joey" 76
1958 "Fever" 8
"Light of Love" 63
"Sweetheart" 98
1959 "It's Okay, You Win" 68
"My Man" 81
"Hallelujah, I Love Him So" 77
1963 "I'm a Woman" 54
1965 "Pass Me by" 93 20
"Free Spirits" 29
1966 "Big Spender" 9
"That Man" 31

I wonder how many will make that many transitions in music??? From Swing ,Blues to Rock!! I know many can keep it going doing the same thing but this is unbelievable... Maybe Sinatra kinda Maybe

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 05.19.10 @ 22:52pm


Philip and other non believers! ;-)

For the influence part, Madonna cited Peggy Lee as an influence a couple of times. Miss Lee even mentionned that Madonna came to her show and met her backstage. (Interview Magazine in the 90's)

When the British Invasion came, instead of feeling threatened, she was an early advocate for the new sounds and one the first to cover Beatles tunes (A hard day's night, The Long and Winding Road, Something and My Sweet Lord by Harrisson)

Paul McCartney produced and signed the title song for her Let's Love album (1974)

Always interested in new stuff, she covered many song from young artists of the time (especially in the 60's and 70's), Simon and Garfunkel, the Lovin' Spoonful, etc... Ray Davies from the Kinks even sent her "I go to sleep" and tought that her version was the best that he heard.

I definetely think that Peggy Lee has proven in her vast repertoire that she could rock. Even if you think that her RnB stuff is sanitazed. It's just a matter of taste. It doesn't discard her as a performer inductee.

Peggy Lee was quite a unique performer in the 20th century, of course mostly associated with the jazz-pop oriented style, but her versatility was incredible. In every style she sang, she did it with dedication and talent.

Here some CD to listen to, maybe you'll discover some sounds of Miss Lee that you don't know.

Travelin' Light - Post Benny Goodman, with husband Dave Barbour, a couple of lovely blues and swing numbers.

Black Coffee and other delights - Considered at the time as one of the top jazz album.

And the most recent release of the CD 2 Shows Nightly - Peggy Lee in fine form, a great example of her versatility, even in the bonus tracks. With an incredible version of Reason to Believe, that would become a hit for a young Rod Stewart a couple of years later.

I think I made my point! ;-)

Posted by Roland on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:29pm


Yes..!

Posted by mrxyzomg on Sunday, 07.4.10 @ 02:40am


eggy Lee was quite a unique performer in the 20th century, of course mostly associated with the jazz-pop oriented style, but her versatility was incredible. In every style she sang, she did it with dedication and talent.

Here some CD to listen to, maybe you'll discover some sounds of Miss Lee that you don't know.

Travelin' Light - Post Benny Goodman, with husband Dave Barbour, a couple of lovely blues and swing numbers.

Black Coffee and other delights - Considered at the time as one of the top jazz album.

And the most recent release of the CD 2 Shows Nightly - Peggy Lee in fine form, a great example of her versatility, even in the bonus tracks. With an incredible version of Reason to Believe, that would become a hit for a young Rod Stewart a couple of years later.

I think I made my point! ;-)

Posted by Roland on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:29pm


Juct could not agree MO.... but then ...LOL

Posted by mrxyzomg & mrxyz on Monday, 07.19.10 @ 21:41pm


With Donnie theory She should be in with out a doubt.. You talk about cross overs . From WWII swing and blues
to rock stations in the 60's, she was the TOP of the chart..Where would Marline Monroe Madonna ,or even Gaga be with out this beautiful and can "really sing" original blond bombshell? She gave the world a lot more than just FEVER...

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 07:53am


After all, the old blues players aren't nearly as accomplished of musicians as the guys who came after, but they're still held in high regard...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 09:01am

This a quote penned by Gitarzan . If in fact he wrote it.. I would take much of what he says with a grain of salt..If you think Peggy , Holiday , Muddy ,Lighting ,Wolfe,Dixion, King etc are not accomplished..Then all I can say is ALL YOU NEED IS EARS

Posted by mrxyzomg on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 08:04am


So, how can Peggy Lee and Billie Holliday be considered, since they were both considered primarily JAZZ singers...yet John Coltrane can't be for the same reason? Duane Allman said he was influenced by him, John McLaughlin (one of the best Jazz/Rock fusion guitarists around) has said he tries to emulate Coltrane's phrasing and improvisation in his playing, etc...

Also, yes I did write the comment questioned in the previous one...what about it do you not understand? Is your comprehension level really that low? No, the old bluesmen are not NEARLY the musicians that the likes of Hendrix, Clapton, Vaughan, and Beck (to name a few) were/are, but they're respected for giving those players a template to work with...not because they're "brilliant" players! Like countless other players, I was influenced by the blues as I initially heard it from the aforementioned players, not the "old blues players".

Maybe you shouldn't be so "twelve short of a dozen" and try to comprehend what people are saying...instead of just waiting for your turn to spout off...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 13:37pm


Maybe you shouldn't be so "twelve short of a dozen" and try to comprehend what people are saying...instead of just waiting for your turn to spout off...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.7.10 @ 13:37pm
As mentioned Peggy is a "cross over". and she did sing rock blues and Pop Besides Jazz and Swing.. Not many can say that....As far as old blues player /rela blues player They have the feel very few do.. That is what I call good playing The pocket not the lots of notes..Sometimes less is MO

If I were you I would take your own dvice an get some ears...As far At this point it is unlikely you will be any more than the flock
Peace an Love


Posted by mryyz on Monday, 08.9.10 @ 11:14am


For all of you who don't know who she IS ,,,shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! find her on YOUTUBE.. Enjoy
All you need is EARS an EYES

Posted by mrxyxomg on Wednesday, 09.22.10 @ 23:44pm


hilip and other non believers! ;-)

For the influence part, Madonna cited Peggy Lee as an influence a couple of times. Miss Lee even mentionned that Madonna came to her show and met her backstage. (Interview Magazine in the 90's)

When the British Invasion came, instead of feeling threatened, she was an early advocate for the new sounds and one the first to cover Beatles tunes (A hard day's night, The Long and Winding Road, Something and My Sweet Lord by Harrisson)

Paul McCartney produced and signed the title song for her Let's Love album (1974)

Always interested in new stuff, she covered many song from young artists of the time (especially in the 60's and 70's), Simon and Garfunkel, the Lovin' Spoonful, etc... Ray Davies from the Kinks even sent her "I go to sleep" and tought that her version was the best that he heard.

I definetely think that Peggy Lee has proven in her vast repertoire that she could rock. Even if you think that her RnB stuff is sanitazed. It's just a matter of taste. It doesn't discard her as a performer inductee.

Peggy Lee was quite a unique performer in the 20th century, of course mostly associated with the jazz-pop oriented style, but her versatility was incredible. In every style she sang, she did it with dedication and talent.

Here some CD to listen to, maybe you'll discover some sounds of Miss Lee that you don't know.

Travelin' Light - Post Benny Goodman, with husband Dave Barbour, a couple of lovely blues and swing numbers.

Black Coffee and other delights - Considered at the time as one of the top jazz album.

And the most recent release of the CD 2 Shows Nightly - Peggy Lee in fine form, a great example of her versatility, even in the bonus tracks. With an incredible version of Reason to Believe, that would become a hit for a young Rod Stewart a couple of years later.

I think I made my point! ;-)

Posted by Roland on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:29pm



I wish I had written This LOL Seems others get IT....

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 10.2.10 @ 22:15pm


Nice to see the song project has recognized Brenda Lee with "Fever," hopefully "Sweet Nothin's" by Brenda Lee is next.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 06:50am


"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It will waste your time and it will annoy the pig."

Like her or not, Peggy Lee is one of the most important musical influences of the 20th century, not only as a singer but also as a songwriter.

An earlier post claims Lee did not write Fever. That statement is incorrect. Lee wrote additional lyrics to the song...the Captain Smith and Pocahontas as well as the Romeo and Juliet lyrics that everybody sings now. Lee is responsible for the "standard" lyrics and arrangement that everybody adopts now.

The Beatles, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Petulia Clark, Johnny Cash, Madonna are just a few of the artists influenced by Lee. She was the first singer of stature to recognize rock n roll in the early 60's. Though she was jazz oriented, she also sang pop, blues, country and even Japanese poetry in addition to rock. Her compositions, such as Sans Souci (with Victor Young), I'm Gonna Go Fishin' (with Duke Ellington,) and Don't Smoke in Bed (who she credited to a friend that needed the royalty money) were decades ahead of their time, as were many of her other works.

Women had it really rough in the first 60 or so years of the 1900's. Despite all the obstacles, Lee and Billie Holiday were both major influences in the evolution of music that resulted in rock n roll. It is truly sad that some can't recognize genius when they hear it and try to diminish hard earned accomplishments that revolutionized modern music.

Posted by Lew on Monday, 02.20.12 @ 19:46pm


Lewi ,just could not agree any more on what you said.!
As many of the other great post about her ! She set the standard on., So many to follow. From swing ,jazz ,blues and rock . she did it all and what a narutal beauty ishe is.
True GOD given talent.

Posted by Happy on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 15:28pm


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