Kid Rock

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2015 (The 2016 Induction Ceremony)

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Devil Without A Cause (1998)

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Bawitdaba (1998)
Picture (2001)

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Will Kid Rock be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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HELL no.

Posted by A-Killa on Sunday, 10.22.06 @ 00:04am


no hes way to cocky and a prick

Posted by curt on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 09:59am


Kid Rock? Sounds more like Kid Rap to me.

Posted by Hitman on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 15:26pm


Cleveland?!...of course not, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him in the Country Music HOF one day...(not meant as an insult, btw)...

Posted by henry s on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 15:46pm


yes he will get in maybe not on 1st ballot tough class to get in on with chains,black crowes,pumpkins wheter if u hate him or not hes a shoe in he inducted 3 groups already he caused the rap metal explosion in 99 with bawitdaba devil sold 11 million and rrhof ranked it the 68th best album ever and he had a massive hit with Picture plus no one else can say they do pretty much every genre their is he prob be in the rap (vh 1 hip hop honors i guess the rap hof) and country hall of fame (country 1 is a stretch with his foul mouth) as well

Posted by sean on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 17:12pm


Yes, His live show alone will make him A Hall of Famer

Posted by queenofrap on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 21:11pm


kid rock and tbt will get in, lets rememeber 2015 is 8 years away and the hype hes puttin out about his new album out soon its ment to be huge he has more albums in him b4 2015, his live shows are acording to every review i have read is best live performer in music and the most tallented band. oh hell yearh \m/

Posted by kidandtbt on Sunday, 04.8.07 @ 11:16am


Looking At The Class of 2015 he should get in it should be

No-Brainers:

1.Kid Rock-Defined Rap Metal, Defined The White Detroit Hip Hop Scene Sold 24 Million Albums Had Smash Hits on All The Major Charts
2.Alice N Chains-Influential on Staind and Puddle Of Mudd Helped The Grunge Movement
3.Black Crowes-Revitilized Blues Based Rock in the 90's
4.Smashing Pumpkins-Helped The Grunge Movement
5.Primus-Influential on No Doubt,RHCP,defined Funk Metal

Outside Chance:

1.Hole- had some hits but havent done much in a long time
2.Ice Cube- Work With Korn plus NWA stuff might get him in
3.Moby-expiermental the hall likes that



No Chance:

1.Mariah Carey-Not Rock
2.En Vogue-Not Rock
3.Wilson Phillips-Not Rock
4.Celion Dion-Not Rock Cant Sing
5.Dani Minoque-Not Rock
6.Dee Lite-Not Rock
7.Blues Traveler- 2 hits only
8.Boss Stones-See Above
9.Blur-1 Hit Wonder

The Rest I've Never Heard Of

Posted by clint on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 11:27am


career longivity-1982 to Present was with the groups the furious funkers,groove time productions, and the beastcrew before he became a solo artist in 89 after he was signed by Jive Records

innovation: combines elements of all genres, can play different array of instruments, plays 7 instruments on 1 song live in concert

has influenced:uncle kracker,paradime,eminem,the reefermen,hemigod,jocaine,eminem,linkin park,saliva,laid law,southern discomfort,dislocated styles,smut peddlers,big and rich,gretchen wilson,cowboy troy,ty stone,troy olsen,bubba sparxxxs,brougham,insane clown posse, the flask to name a few

chart success: 1st 4 releases failed over contreversial songs such has yo da lin in the valley and balls in your mouth since then he's gone on to sale 20 plus million albums which is impressive since he hops genre to genre losing an a massive amount of fans while gaining new ones

important songs: Bawitdaba (1998)/Cowboy (1998)/Picture (2001)

underlooked songs: My Oedipus Complex (1993)/Abortion (1994)/Black Chick,White Guy (1996) unbelievable song writing on each song

Verdict: He's A Shoe In Esp if this next album whenever it comes out is an epic like he states

Posted by Ralph on Sunday, 04.22.07 @ 12:14pm


Hits: Bawitdaba/Cowboy/I Am The Bullgod/Wasting Time/Only God Knows Why/American Bad Ass/Forever/Lonely Road Of Faith/You Never Met.../Picture/Feel Like Makin Love/Jackson,Mississippi/Cold And Empty/I Am/Single Father/Son Of Detroit (Live)

Misses:Yo Da Lin In The Valley/Back From The Dead/U Don't Know Me/Prodigal Son/My Oedipus Complex/Welcome 2 The Party/

More Hit then Misses so he's in

Posted by paul on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 12:17pm


Saying he influenced Hemigod is pretty funny, by that do you mean he destroyed their career?

Posted by Hemigod on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 19:52pm


how did he destroy hemigod's career they broke up before they every released their 1st album

Posted by chris on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 11:50am


the kid gets a very bad rep, not really fair when you consider the other assholes in rock n roll who are complete dicks too, sounds like no one gives him a chance, or were jealous when he was banging pamela. and whoever said hes kid rap juust proves they have heard about one of his songs, im not his biggest fan but i think hes talented and deserves it.

Posted by eric on Saturday, 06.9.07 @ 09:45am


7 % chance thats funny cuz hes a shoe in since he created (u can argue)or atleast popularized rap metal/ nu metal and when that died out he had a crossover country hit no one does that go from rap to country and still sells albums if skynyrd in which is my sec fav group after kid got in with only 3 songs that charted (sweet home alabama/free bird/what's your name) then how cant kid and tbt not b in with like 20 hits under their belt and Devil Without A Cause was named the 68th best album of all time by hold on wait for it the rock n roll hall of fame

Posted by hickfromthesticks on Saturday, 06.9.07 @ 14:05pm


This guy is all show, no talent and he got one nice song from Crow. Metal rap? LOL

Posted by RRlover on Wednesday, 10.3.07 @ 14:06pm


I just have one question? Has there been anyone like Kid Rock before him? Exactly. I say yes.

Posted by SSR on Sunday, 12.16.07 @ 13:09pm


No 1 Album-Check (Rock N Roll Jesus)

No 1 Hit-Check (Picture)

Crossover Hits-Check (Cowboy,Only God Knows Why,Picture, Amen is being picked up by country )

Important Song -Check (Bawitdaba/Cowboy)

Influential-Check (Uncle Kracker,Big And Rich etc)

Pioneer- Check ( Country-Rap, Southern Rock-Rap)

Longivity- 1987- Today-Check

Chart Success- 22.5 million since 1998-Check

Progression Of Albums-Each Album gets better reviews than the last-Check


In The Hall-Check

Posted by kidrockfan on Tuesday, 02.5.08 @ 10:49am


Gonna take more than that (double check)!!!

Posted by Terry on Tuesday, 02.5.08 @ 20:05pm


How is he gotta to more? He/TBT get in alone because of "Bawitdaba" and brought rap metal out of the shadows and lead to Limp Bizkit blowing up and RATM blowing up even though they were their before kid (in the genre kid was around way before them in 87 but that was straight rap). Then it lead to Linkin Park and then Saliva then P.O.D. and so on. Then when that became saturated he bolted and was succesful with country music. Their only two rap metal groups still selling Kid and Linkin Park the rest have died.

Posted by kidrockfan on Wednesday, 02.6.08 @ 14:28pm


Let me think...for example: Chicago.
35 top 40 hits, 20 of those top 10. 22 gold records, 18 platinum, 7 multi-platinum. They and Bood, Sweat, and Tears brought horn sections in rock music to the mainstream. Also, Terry Kath was one of the most gifted guitarists around. 40 years later, they're still around...

but they're NOT in the Hall Of Fame!!! I don't think Kid Rock comes close to that...sorry!!

Posted by Terry on Wednesday, 02.6.08 @ 19:30pm


Chicago hasnt had a hit on every major chart have they in fact I think kid rock is the only artist ever since rock star w r kelly charted on the r&b and hip-hop charts that should count for something and he's been around awhile as well 26 years

Posted by bill on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 18:02pm


I'm talking THE Billboard top 40...not a bunch of stupid sub-genre charts. If he's been around so long, shouldn't he be eligible now? He's not eligible for another 7 years!! Besides that, Chicago ISN"T in the Hall, which is puzzling to me. Kid Rock has a lot of ground to cover to match Chicago's success.If you want to call that half-baked duet he did with Sheryl Crow country...okay!!!

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 18:20pm


Its simple he will eventually get in no matter what anybody thinks 1st try or the 20th try. Chicago had more top 40 hits cuz their more pop Kid Rock is hard rock/ rap rock and only his country ballads chart on pop charts except for Cowboy and his current single All Summer Long which is easily the most pop friendly song he has ever done, Bawitdaba wasnt gonna chart in the top 40 talking bout hookers, gangbangers and methodine clinics for god shakes or Bullgod which is a pro pot anthem. Lastly he kicks ass live its like seeing a 70's concert with all the extended jams.

Posted by stanley on Monday, 04.28.08 @ 11:26am


Its simple he will eventually get in no matter what anybody thinks 1st try or the 20th try. Chicago had more top 40 hits cuz their more pop Kid Rock is hard rock/ rap rock and only his country ballads chart on pop charts except for Cowboy and his current single All Summer Long which is easily the most pop friendly song he has ever done, Bawitdaba wasnt gonna chart in the top 40 talking bout hookers, gangbangers and methodine clinics for god shakes or Bullgod which is a pro pot anthem. Lastly he kicks ass live its like seeing a 70's concert with all the extended jams.

Posted by stanley on Monday, 04.28.08 @ 11:26am


TO THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS:

Looking At The Class of 2015 he should get in it should be

No-Brainers:

1.Kid Rock-Defined Rap Metal, Defined The White Detroit Hip Hop Scene Sold 24 Million Albums Had Smash Hits on All The Major Charts
2.Alice N Chains-Influential on Staind and Puddle Of Mudd Helped The Grunge Movement
3.Black Crowes-Revitilized Blues Based Rock in the 90's
4.Smashing Pumpkins-Helped The Grunge Movement
5.Primus-Influential on No Doubt,RHCP,defined Funk Metal

Outside Chance:

1.Hole- had some hits but havent done much in a long time
2.Ice Cube- Work With Korn plus NWA stuff might get him in
3.Moby-expiermental the hall likes that



No Chance:

1.Mariah Carey-Not Rock
2.En Vogue-Not Rock
3.Wilson Phillips-Not Rock
4.Celion Dion-Not Rock Cant Sing
5.Dani Minoque-Not Rock
6.Dee Lite-Not Rock
7.Blues Traveler- 2 hits only
8.Boss Stones-See Above
9.Blur-1 Hit Wonder

The Rest I've Never Heard Of

Posted by clint on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 11:27am


YOUR "NO-BRAINERS" AND "OUTSIDE CHANCE" LISTS MAKES YOU AN IDIOT!

THE ONLY WAY ANYONE OF THEM SHOULD MAKE THE HALL OF FAME IS IF THEY PURCHASE A TICKET.

Posted by REM on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 03:11am


Kid Rock and Hall of Fame go together like Richard Simmons and paternity suit.

No Way!

Posted by PL on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 03:15am


Alice in Chains - definitely. Black Crowes & Smashing Pumpkins - a definite maybe. Blur was more than just a one hit wonder.

I couldn't care less about the others.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 04:56am


To REM:

In regards to your comments about certain act of the class of 2015 being unworthy of election:

"Your No-Brainers and Outside Chance list makes you an idiot!"

"The only way anyone of them should make the hall of fame is if they purchase a ticket."

Seeing as how your comments suggest you have been in a catatonic state since 12/31/89, allow me to fill you in on some things you missed -

Presidents: W.J. Clinton (92-00)/ G.W. Bush (00-08)
A QB named Brett Favre has surpassed the records of D. Marino
The Red Sox finally won a World Series in 2004

As for rock & roll: It didn't fade away after 89. Instead it meandered down different paths. If you are having a hard time understanding the glut of giant festivals, and secretly long for arena shows, I recommend you look up the history of a concert called Lollapalooza (you missed this obviously). As you have already noticed, music has changed a wee bit since you Rip Van Winkled your way out of our universe. A little act called Nirvana wrecked your world, as it were. It was a world that many of us shared, but we all moved on. If you need help, casinos in Vegas & New Jersey routinely book 80's metal acts, which will serve as a comedown if you need it. In the meantime, please post a description of where you were between 1/1/90 and the present, and stop crying over things you know nothing about.

And remember, others cried before you over what was good or bad. No doubt you have desperately defended your own favorites against the laughing ridicule of people older than yourself.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 05:11am


Cheesecrop, if Kid Rock is a Hall-of-Famer then the criteria must be the artist simply must have been alive and breathing at some point.

As far as all those events, etc you mentioned....yes, I know, I lived through all of them.

Where was I from 1/1/90 to now? Living a healthy and prosperous live in the "real" home of Rock and Roll, Detroit. I say "real" because the Motor City is the home of Rock and Roll, not the "Mistake by the Lake" known as Cleveland.

Cleveland just happened to be the home town of Alan Freed, the man who coined the term "rock and roll". I guess it was a good thing Freed wasn't born in Armpit, Alabama.

Lollapalooza? Heard of it. Woodstock? (1969, not 1999) Remember it.

I didn't Rip Van Winkle out of any time in my time on Earth. But rather believe rock and roll started strong in the 1950s, had its best time musically in the 1960s, rebelled against disco in the 1970s, got revitalized with MTV in the 1980s, and, yes, started to decline a bit in the 1990s with idiots who couldn't carry on the tardition of true R&R.

From Elvis to the Beatles and the entire British Invasion, to CCR, to Simon and Garfunkle, to the Doors, to Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, to the pre-child molester Michael Jackson,yadda, yadda, yadda, the list goes on.

Now you have acts like Britney Spears -- who has to pretend to have a mental breakdown to be an important figure in the news -- who is really one more prtatfall away from posing nude in playboy or playing a "shocked" hostess on an infomercial.

What seperates the true list of R&R Hall members to the music of today is staying power. Much of the music of the 1960s, 1970s and, yes, even the 1980s will always fit in with any era.

"Music" like Kid Rock is simply a rip-off, or at least his latest "hit" is. "All Summer Long" is a rip-off of two other songs: "Werewolves of London" by Warren Zevon and, of course, "Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Now before you spout off and say he didn't rip them off because he had to get permission, think again, he did rip them off because it is a case of been there done that.

Whatever happened to an original thought, idea, or concept? Influence and inspiration are one thing, but this transcends that. That song is plagarism. Much like someone else you probably think is a future Hall of Famer -- Jessica Simpson.

"I Think I'm In Love" ripped off John Cougar Mellencamp's "Jack and Diane". The first time I heard this song I thought two radios were playing at the same time. This must be the newest trend in today's music.

Posted by REM on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 11:35am


"All Summer Long" is plagiarism? Are you insane?

You really have been asleep for the last couple decades. You ever hear of sampling? It's actually a pretty well established art form now. Combining two (or twenty) elements to create something new is far far away from plagiarism. Kid Rock isn't trying to pass those riffs off as his own... and who exactly has combined those songs before?

Posted by mel on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 12:43pm


I think the point cheesecrop was trying to make is that no matter how much permission an artist gets to sample, the fact of the matter is someone else's hard work created the music, which I wholeheartedly agree with that point. Making the original music was far and away the hard part.

Thank goodness there are some artists out there that won't allow their music to be sampled for any reason. If they all did, Kid Rock would have to go get a real job!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 13:36pm


I still can't quite believe I actually once owned a CD of his. That was before I realized what a nationalist reactionary macho dork that guy is. What was I thinking? I gave the album away to a friend, eventually. Boy, was he happy. I guess, you'd call that a win-win situation...

Posted by denyo on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 16:14pm


You can call it "sampling" I call it copying.

Give me an artist who has an original work with BOTH the music and lyrics anyday over someone who simply puts lyrics to music someone else wrote and had a hit with.

I never said Kid Rock passed off the music on "All Summer Long" as his own but rather resorted to sampling/copying.

Maybe for his next trick he will do sampling the opposite way and sing "Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones with music he actually wrote.

If you don't think sampling is copying then you are insane.

Posted by REM on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 00:06am


REM -

To be honest w/you I'm in total agreement about Kid Rock's latest. I can't stand it, and I do think it's a cheap Skynyrd rip-off. I would say that overall the Kid does have a case to be made though. The "Devil w/out a Cause"/"History of Rock"/"Cocky" era Kid does contain a fair amount of original stuff.

I notice things start to go downhill for you in the 90's and up till now. At one point you state that it declined due to "idiots who couldn't carry on the true tradition of rock & roll". I had no idea rock really had a true tradition. Certainly the rockers of the 60's were far from the tradition of 50's stars. I say more power to them for being that way. The 80's were the same way in relation to the 60's, so why start knocking it in the 90's? If anything it would seem that a whole passel of bands from the 90's should be inducted, if only for keeping up the tradition of not having a tradition.

By the way, us folks down yonder in Armpit, Alabameee just got this here computer technology, so were a might bit slow. And by the way I reckon you'd better quit pickin on our fine southern lassie Britney, you damn Yankee!!!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 04:58am


By true R&R tradition I mean none of this stuff of rap artists claiming to be R&R artists. None of this sampling rip-off shit.

Maybe I just prefer artists until the mid 1990s and don't think too much of today's shit.

Britney Spears? Her life seems at times a mess which isn't out of the realm of possibility when you consider she was a star at 16. She is, however, very bangable. The same is true for Jessica Simpson -- being bangable, anyways, not her life is a mess or a star at 16.

Posted by REM on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 08:22am


Do you really think that Britney and Jessica are representative of the best music has to offer in the 2000's? There are a ton of great bands right now. You might have to look somewhere other than top 40 radio however to find them.

You should listen to the rest of this Kid Rock album. All Summer Long is the only song which features samples prominently. The rest is probably right up your old fashioned rock and roll alley.

Posted by mel on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 08:59am


I hope Spears and Simpson aren't the best representatives music has to offer in the 2000s; I said them because they are extremely popular.

Listen to the rest of the Kid Rock album? I will pass on that.

I don't listen to Top 40 unless I am at work, and even then it is against my will. When no one is around I change it.

You would be amazed how often the Top 40 station plays not just "All Summer Long" but other songs, too. Every 2 hours.

There are a lot of musical talents I like but I don't consider them Hall of Fame material.

I like the Monkees music but I don't think they should be Hall of Fame members. They were a novelty like the Archies or the Partridge Family.

I just think Kid Rock has done enough.

Posted by REM on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 18:13pm


I hope they aren't the best what the 2000s have to offer.

I just don't think Kid Rock has done enough.

Posted by REM on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 18:14pm


Of course he will. He is a rock and roll genius. While he has country, soul, R&B, Rap, and Funk influences, he is definately a true rock and roll superstar.

Posted by Palmer on Sunday, 09.7.08 @ 22:47pm


Palmer: "He is a rock and roll genius"????

Wow...That's really funny!

No wonder all the controversy over previous and future inductees with a comment like that.

Jake T.

Posted by Jake T. on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 07:29am


You are not appreciating him for his true talent. If your not into it, move on. Don't be a rude.

Posted by Lisa on Saturday, 09.27.08 @ 23:57pm


all summer long has put him in most likely all he had missing was a worldwide smash hit and its recieving all kinds of awards should prob be atleast nominated for a grammy since he won 2 world music awards so with that he has:

Worldwide No 1 Single-All Summer Long
U.S. Top 5 Single-Picture
No 1 Album- Rock N Roll Jesus
Diamond Album-Devil Without A Cause
Multiplatnium Albums- Devil,History,Cocky,RNR Jesus

Album Sales: 25 million

Posted by mike on Wednesday, 11.12.08 @ 14:11pm


Why is anybody be a fan of this obnoxious pretender? I say pretender because he pretends to have musical talent, but he really doesn't. And his fight w/ Tommy Lee over Pam was a pathetic joke. A couple a real brainiacs there. haha

Posted by fannyhead on Thursday, 11.13.08 @ 14:23pm


NO WAY. After what he did with that "All Summer Long" song...destroying two classics at once with some of the worst lyrics ever noted to man kind...The fact he's actually listed as a future hall of famer on that page is sad...

Posted by maplejet on Monday, 01.26.09 @ 10:52am


7 % chance thats funny cuz hes a shoe in since he created (u can argue)or atleast popularized rap metal/ nu metal and when that died out he had a crossover country hit no one does that go from rap to country and still sells albums if skynyrd in which is my sec fav group after kid got in with only 3 songs that charted (sweet home alabama/free bird/what's your name) then how cant kid and tbt not b in with like 20 hits under their belt and Devil Without A Cause was named the 68th best album of all time by hold on wait for it the rock n roll hall of fame

Posted by hickfromthesticks on Saturday, 06.9.07 @ 14:05pm

Because Skynyrd is actually a good and talented band,who influenced many good bands after them.
It doesn't matter if they're big chart toppers.
There is no way that Kid rap/country/nu-metal gets in,he sucks.Simple as that.

Posted by Stephen on Wednesday, 02.25.09 @ 17:36pm


I still can't quite believe I actually once owned a CD of his. That was before I realized what a nationalist reactionary macho dork that guy is. What was I thinking? I gave the album away to a friend, eventually. Boy, was he happy. I guess, you'd call that a win-win situation...

Posted by denyo on Wednesday, 08.27.08 @ 16:14pm
haha I had one two.When I was in my tweens and early teens I thought that Kid Rock was so cool,tuff,and edgy.Lol embaressing times now I understand he's just some loser with a false sense of machoism.
I through mine in a dumpster.

Posted by Stephen on Wednesday, 02.25.09 @ 17:41pm


Record sales don't equal talent. In some cases record sales don't mean influence. I say no.

Posted by Rudy on Sunday, 04.5.09 @ 20:39pm


It’s really rather funny how tragically overlooked he is on this site. Of course, indy-geeks have always been threatened by anyone who dares show a dash of testosterone. They’d rather just give a blanket dismissal and call him “reactionary” or whatever other veiled buzzword-de-jeur they happen to have to hide their liberal politics.

The fact is, nobody’s really actually given a serious mention of Kid, or of his band yet. His hits have been cataloged and his stylistic influences have been covered, but not Kids considerable influence as a person. In 1998, music was a pretty wimpy place. The whole concept of a frontman had been watered down to nothingness. Grunge was great, but what followed in the wake of grunge in the late 90s was a lot of milquetoast, watered down crap. Singers stood in one place, strummed their acoustic guitars, and mumbled. The entire scene had become overwrought with mediocrity. Dave Matthews? Alanis Morisette? Live? These pansies need to go eat a steak. Even the ones who were good musicians, like Matthews, wrote some really lame songs. It was into that void that Kid stepped, and was a breath of fresh air. For the first time in a decade, rock had a true FRONTMAN. Kid rejuvenated all the balls and good old fashioned swagger that came from everybody from Elvis to Chuck Berry to Roger Daltry to James Hetfield and Axl Rose. Much like grunge swept away the excesses of the 80s, Kid Rock swept away the wimpyness of the 90s. Most of his critics on this website actually pine for those halcyon days of crappy, nonthreatening music. They look down condescendingly at Kid Rock because he puts aside pretention. Yes, he’s trailer trash. Yes, he’s a meathead. But he’s honest about it. He wears his past with pride – and by his very existence, he casts a light on the inherent snobbery of the alternative movement. That’s really why he gets bashed on websites like this. Much like other acts from Michigan (some great, some not so great) – be they the Stooges, Seegar, Grand Funk Railroad, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Brownsville Station, whoever – they all get snickers from critics who can’t cast aside their pretentions and embrace something genuine. And as much as the critics look down on Kid Rock, he has demonstrated time and time again that he knows more about music then any of them. Listen to any interview and you will see the reverence with which he holds those who blazed the trail before him. Of course, he’s a populist, so it’s much easier to dismiss him then to acknowledge his considerable talents. He is, quite simply, the preeminent frontman of our time.

This is already long enough, but I haven’t even mentioned his band. Twisted Brown Trucker is Kids true secret weapon. So many acts have become great at one style, but are only good within their limited niche. Metallica proved in the 90s that they don’t do blues-rock well. Conversely, someone like Jimmy Page would probably struggle if he had to play something as tight as metal. Dave Navarro is a great rock guitarist, but flopped when he tried to play funk-rock with the Chili Peppers. Twisted Brown Trucker doesn’t get that luxury. Kid Rock demands of them that they play EVERYTHING, and play it with lethal precision, and change styles on a dime – often multiple times within the same song – without ever missing a beat. These musicians have to master rock, hip hop, country, blues, metal, old-school rap, jazz, and any other whim Rock might have that day. They pull it off with the sort of élan that is so easily overlooked, but there is genuine greatness there. Stefanie Eulinberg is one of the great drummers of our time. Period. I could name the rest by name, but the fact of the matter is that if you don’t have chops, versatility, and attitude, you can’t hang in his band.

At the end of the day, “The Industry” loves him for his talent and his reverence to its history. Kid Rock will be one of the few populist acts who will be inducted, if not on the first ballot, then shortly thereafter. Indy geeks will cry. But they’re the ones that are missing out. The real reasons why are listed above. It’s all there. The man is quite simply the total package.

Posted by Dean on Monday, 04.6.09 @ 11:09am


It’s really rather funny how tragically overlooked he is on this site. Of course, indy-geeks have always been threatened by anyone who dares show a dash of testosterone. They’d rather just give a blanket dismissal and call him “reactionary” or whatever other veiled buzzword-de-jeur they happen to have to hide their liberal politics.

Posted by Dean on Monday, 04.6.09 @ 11:09am
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Beautiful.

Absolutely perfect.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 04.6.09 @ 17:12pm


i dunno about kid rock. he had some kick ass songs in the past, but his recent stuff leaves me feeling less bad ass than usual.

however, none of that is criteria to get inducted or not. but i seriously don't know.

Posted by Justin on Friday, 06.26.09 @ 13:37pm


Dean, you're a bad man...

Kid Rock plays everything well, he puts the "man" in "frontman", he is respectful of his elders, he put rock-rap back on the radar singlehandedly. He inducted three different artists into the hall already, so you know he knows the venue. He is a flat-out lock in my opinion.

Posted by Chris on Sunday, 10.25.09 @ 13:36pm


"During his career he has influenced artist and groups such as Eminem, Uncle Kracker, Paradime, Trick Trick, Ty Stone and The Truth, Jocaine and 75 North, Black Magic Crossing, Johnny Lawerence, Kirk Dubb, and Huck Johns locally. He has had an influence on the country duo of Big And Rich which also mix rap with country and rock. Devil Without A Cause opened the door for rap metal outfits such as Linkin Park, Saliva, System of A Down, P.O.D. and Papa Roach, as well. Country singer Gretchen Wilson has said Kid Rock has been a big influence and even name checks him in her hit "Redneck Woman", co-written by John Rich. Lil' Wayne stated that Kid Rock was a major influence on him. His next album Rebirth will be a rock album after hanging out with Kid Rock and watching him play guitar."

I know Wikipedia isn't always right, but that list is pretty damn impressive...

Posted by Chris on Sunday, 10.25.09 @ 13:39pm


hahahahaha he influenced 'such a great list of artist'

and dont you dare call System of a Down rap-metal! he definitely has nothing to do with them being popular

Posted by nowayinhell on Sunday, 10.25.09 @ 15:08pm


Way too early to predict his influence on rock and roll. Let's all talk about Kid Rock in another ten years.

Posted by Joe on Sunday, 10.25.09 @ 18:26pm


If you havent been schooled in the KID ROCK list of WHO HE'S RIPPED OFF, here's a tip from the Detroit Inside.
Kid Rock has been ripping off Huck Johns since he heard the guy sing in 95. He was a goofy rapper in Detroit, Stole Huck's look and Rock and Roll sound of his voice and went country. Huck even wrote a song on his country debut "KID ROCK" called "I AM". If you listen to Johns' voice on his Debut in 2006 on Capitol you can hear how Ritchie ripped his "singing" voice off. Anyhow KIDROCK is really over rated.

Posted by Mike Novark on Friday, 11.13.09 @ 13:49pm


"In 1998, music was a pretty wimpy place. The whole concept of a frontman had been watered down to nothingness. Grunge was great, but what followed in the wake of grunge in the late 90s was a lot of milquetoast, watered down crap. Singers stood in one place, strummed their acoustic guitars, and mumbled. The entire scene had become overwrought with mediocrity. Dave Matthews? Alanis Morisette? Live? These pansies need to go eat a steak. Even the ones who were good musicians, like Matthews, wrote some really lame songs. It was into that void that Kid stepped, and was a breath of fresh air. For the first time in a decade, rock had a true FRONTMAN. Kid rejuvenated all the balls and good old fashioned swagger that came from everybody from Elvis to Chuck Berry to Roger Daltry to James Hetfield and Axl Rose. Much like grunge swept away the excesses of the 80s, Kid Rock swept away the wimpyness of the 90s. Most of his critics on this website actually pine for those halcyon days of crappy, nonthreatening music. They look down condescendingly at Kid Rock because he puts aside pretention. Yes, he’s trailer trash. Yes, he’s a meathead. But he’s honest about it. He wears his past with pride – and by his very existence, he casts a light on the inherent snobbery of the alternative movement." What?!!! I cannot believe I wasted my time reading that crap! There were no real frontmen with personalities from 1988-1998?! James Hetfield? Dave Mustaine? Vince Neil? Liam Gallagher? Damon Albarn (oh, never mind you won't qualify him because you're only talking about the U.S.) Axl Rose? Scott Weiland? Zack De La Rocha? Anyone from Seattle? That whole post sounded like more "Rock Is Dead" bullshit! Go talk to Ian Brown, Liam Gallagher, Damon Albarn or Brett Anderson about "Indy Geeks" or talk to Chris Cornell about "Wimpy Alternative People" and prepare to get your ass kicked for your dumb stereotypes. As for Kid Rock, no he did not create rap-metal, Anthrax and Public Enemy did that. I haven't listened to much of his stuff ("Picture" and "All Summer Long" are boring) but if he really does have a massive influence then he should be inducted.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 02.22.10 @ 18:37pm


Oh, forgetting that Dave Grohl would easily kick your ass if you insulted Alternative and Indie to his face (the guy knocked Zakk Wylde out so I'm certain of that.) And I forgot about Phil Anselmo; he was still flying the flag for "real" R'N'R frontmen (whatever that means) in the mid to late 90's.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 02.24.10 @ 20:08pm


Okay, I'm not sure about the balls and swagger that Damon Albarn had, but he definitely is involved with the crowd and is a fun guy. Brett Anderson from Suede seems to have a kind of confidence about him. I must say about Kid Rock and rap-metal: You cannot say there would be no rap-metal without him, since it began with either Faith No More or that Anthrax/Public Enemy collaboration. FNM's "Epic" was a hit in '89. Rage Against the Machine broke through in '92. Kid Rock didn't make it big until '98.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 03.22.10 @ 20:00pm


On top of that, Dean, answer the following:

-In what way did Kid break any new ground?
-If Kid swept away wimpiness, then why did boy bands, The Fray and Lifehouse follow on his wake?
-Because of the second part, can he be credited with perpetuating the artform in any way? My take is no.
-Who did Kid influence?

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 17:55pm


Wow, Sam, you must be really pissed off in order to respond to the same post 4 times.

Did Kid Rock bang your wife or something?

I’ll feed the trolls just this once and address some of what you said.

Lets start with the state of music in 1998. That’s what we’re really talking about here. Just because someone was relevant in 1988 or 1991 or 1995 doesn’t mean that they were still relevant in ’98 when Kid Rock came on the scene.

In ’98 Hetfield (possibly greatest frontman of all time?) is at his creative nadir even at he’s at his financial peak (if you want an empty symbol, 1998 is “short hair” Hetfield). Mustaine has returned to the underground. Brilliant frontmen, both of them. But by 1998, they were passé. Bands weren’t being signed if their singer sounded like Hetfield. Record labels wanted Eddie Vedder clones. So we got bands like The Wallflowers, Counting Crowes and (shudder) Creed. Vince Neil was a joke even when his band was popular. I won’t profess to be a Motley expert, but I’m pretty sure by 1998, he’d been relegated to the country fair circuit. Liam Gallagher was a pussy and Damon Albarn was more interesting as a cartoon than a person. The fact that you’d even cite Gallagher as a ballsy frontman shows that you just don’t get it. He’s exactly the sort that needed to be cast aside. Axl? Equally passé. Not to mention long gone from the scene by ’98, as he sat on the sidelines watching his band disintegrate. Weiland? Likewise. At least Zach de la Rocha is actually an interesting example. Extremely high energy guy and not afraid to put on a show. He’s a genuinely great frontman, and few have ever rivaled his intensity. But way to politically correct. When your claim to edginess is that you hate Republicans, well, you’re not exactly out on a limb. “Anyone from Seattle.” - who do you think I was referring to when I talked about mumbling? Some charismatic singers, sure, but hardly high energy guys. These were the very people being cast aside. Again, the fact that you’d cite them shows you aren’t capable of getting the point. As for talking to Chris Cornell about wimpy alternative people, have you HEARD his solo album? 20 years ago, they’d call that swill “Easy Listening.” I actually fear what the newly reunited Soundgarden might sound like if this is the sort of music Cornell wants to make. At least you didn’t waste my time with a douchebag like Billy Corgan. Continuing… Anselmo – strictly underground (and that’s just how he likes it). Great frontman, yes, but a discussion of Kid Rock is a discussion of the mainstream. If a tree falls in the woods… Grohl. Lets get this settled. Zakk got drunk and slagged Grohl in an interview. Nobody decked anybody. Nice singer. Killer songwriter (I’m listening to him as I type this, actually), but as far as a frontman? He’s OK, but hardly one of the all time great frontmen. I’m listening to him as I type this, actually. Much like Zach – WAAAY too PC for a frontman. Rock and roll isn’t about being PC. That was the lesson that needed to be re-learned by 1998, and Kid Rock was the one to teach it.

“As for Kid Rock, no he did not create rap-metal” - Correct. Too bad for you that I never said that he did. He certainly did, however, place it front and center in the mainstream.

After you got finished showing that you don’t “get it,” you did ask a few questions…

“In what way did Kid break any new ground?” and “Who did Kid influence?” – Others above have already answered these. You’ve ignored them. Why would you listen to me when I repeat something you’ve already dismissed? Scroll back up and you’ll find your answers already written by someone much less wordy than myself.

“If Kid swept away wimpiness, then why did boy bands, The Fray and Lifehouse follow on his wake?” – Because there are always bands who lag behind the curve. Nirvana and the Seattle Scene are credited with wiping away the dreck of hair metal (an accolade I don’t contest in any way), yet a shitty hair band like Motley Crue still has its biggest selling album (Dr. Feelgood) AFTER 1991. Musical atrocities like Poison and Warrant didn’t stop selling until around 1993 or 1994. Why? Same reason. Isolated examples don’t invalidate the change in musical styles. There were, and always will be, people who want to listen to “that crap from 5 years ago.” They’re the same people who call radio stations today and request Nickleback. They’re the same people that are fueling the latest Journey-inspired nostalgia trip trend. They’re the same people that don’t realize that Coldplay sucks.

You don’t like Kid Rock. I get that. I’m not saying you have to like him. That’s the beauty of music. There’s always a Rod Stewart out there for people with shitty taste. Lots of people would probably say that I’m the one with the bad taste. Ultimately, that’s all opinion and useless to debate.

What’s not opinion is that Kid Rock is treated by “the industry” as an icon-in-waiting. It’s OK if that galls you, but stop and think for a second as to why that is? Surely, if it was all marketing, his 15 minutes would have long ago expired. I think I’ve explained it sufficiently. It’s all here if you open your eyes and ears.

Posted by Dean on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 12:12pm


I must give you credit for that actually. You assumed I was a troll (which if you read most of my posts you'll seem I'm not), and I was treating you like a troll. I will respond however.

"Did Kid Rock bang your wife or something?" Nope. I'm 20, actually, and my last girlfriend was 3 years ago. Ended out of my choosing actually. Your post just rubbed me the wrong way for whatever reason, but that's my problem not yours.

"Mustaine has returned to the underground. Brilliant frontmen, both of them. But by 1998, they were passé." Actually Megadeth had a Top 10 album in 1997 (with some thrashy tracks), though he admits he went slightly more poppy in '99. And the reason I mentioned Phil Anselmo was that Pantera were still fairly popular in '98 (still playing arenas at least.)

"Vince Neil was a joke even when his band was popular. I won’t profess to be a Motley expert, but I’m pretty sure by 1998, he’d been relegated to the country fair circuit." True, though back to arenas by popular demand. I had assumed you liked the hair bands since you associated Kid and Axl together.

"Liam Gallagher was a pussy" I am an Oasis fan but I'd agree with that. In the US rap-metal was huge, but not so much in Europe (where I am from.) I won't proclaim to be a pillar of knowledge but when I was growing up in the UK in the 90's I didn't hear it very often.

Yes I did hear bits of Chris' new album (shudder.) I hope Soundgarden does do a back to basics new album; I liked Audioslave actually. I agree with you on Dave Grohl; I actually preferred him drumming for Nirvana. I hadn't thought of Billy Corgan but he's not someone I would've mentioned (though Mellon Collie did have a metal track.)

"Damon Albarn was more interesting as a cartoon than a person." I can see where you're coming from there.

I did see that Kid was being credited for popularizing rap-metal, it's just that I'd disagree with that. Rage Against the Machine came out in '92 and kept their popularity for the rest of the decade, and Limp Bizkit (what I've heard from them has been crap) broke out at the same time as Kid.

"Nirvana and the Seattle Scene are credited with wiping away the dreck of hair metal (an accolade I don’t contest in any way), yet a shitty hair band like Motley Crue still has its biggest selling album (Dr. Feelgood) AFTER 1991." I'd actually give thrash and speed metal (Metallica and co.) credit for that, plus that scene was on the way out anyway (more on that another time) and Dr. Feelgood came out in '89. Nirvana were a great band though.

I'm running out of space here, so those are the bits I wanted to address. I wouldn't claim to dislike Kid Rock as I haven't heard much of his stuff, but what I've heard hasn't been my thing.

Still, your rebuttal was well-written though, in all honesty. Unlike Journey or Bon Jovi fanboys/fangirls who just trot out the same nonsense, or claim that Journey were better than AC/DC and Aerosmith and were more influential to the 80's than Van Halen and R.E.M. (how funny that was.)

Take care.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 21:59pm


"Much like other acts from Michigan (some great, some not so great) – be they the Stooges, Seegar, Grand Funk Railroad, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Brownsville Station, whoever – they all get snickers from critics who can’t cast aside their pretentions and embrace something genuine." - Dean

Thanks by the way for name-dropping Alice; that's an induction that's way overdue. And Nugent's a pretty underrated guitarist, if we're talking about having balls. And I like both threatening music and some stuff people would consider "wimpy". I will fight for Motorhead, Alice Cooper, and Thin Lizzy to be inducted as hard as I will for The Smiths and Joy Division to be inducted, though how much it means to be in this Hall of Shame is debatable. My main problems are more with who hasn't been inducted than who has been inducted (which they've mostly gotten right), and if that "Definitive 200" list is anything to go by it'll only get worse over time.

Okay, that's all for now.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 05.16.10 @ 15:47pm


I just voted yes only because he's from my state, Michigan. Otherwise, I would've said hell no.

Posted by Brittany on Saturday, 09.11.10 @ 19:30pm


ive never heard a good album from this guy, his music is horrid. id vote in weird al before this guy...

Posted by KidRockBlows on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 13:28pm


I wouldn't mind Weird Al in the Hall.

He's done some pretty good covers.

He won't make it, though.

Posted by Brittany on Tuesday, 01.11.11 @ 09:32am


ARTISTS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BY KID ROCK

01. 2001 Aerosmith
02. 2004 Bob Seger
03. 2006 Lynyrd Skynyrd

Posted by Roy on Friday, 03.11.11 @ 06:43am


To ansewer who he has influenced

In Rap-

Eminem ( he's a rip off of Kid's 1st 4 releases)
Yelawolf ( now is protege not Eminem's)
Lil Wayne ( said it dozens of times in interviews)
50 Cent ( has said his dream collabration)
Paradime
Robert Ritchie ( yeah is son he counts)
Any rapper from Detroit except Esham he came up before Bob by about 2 years

In Rock-

Bon Jovi ( attempted going country after picture's success)
Bret Micheals (attempted going country see above)
Darius Rucker ( went country from Rock)
Aaron Lewis ( attempted to go country has said kid's an influence)
Sheepdogs
The Young Brothers ( went broke sending Redneck Paradise to him)
Black Stone Cherry ( has said it in interviews)
Saliva
Jonathan Tyler and The Northern Light ( has said it in interviews)

In Country

Uncle Kracker ( his drunk sounding clone)
Ty Stone ( new protege)
Gretchen Wilson
Big And Rich
Colt Ford
Zac Brown Band
Jamey Johnson
Randy Houser
Eric Church
Toby Keith ( has done several country rap songs)
Trace Adkins (Brown Chicken Brown Cow is country rap)
Blake Shelton (Hillbilly Bone see above)
Hellbound Glory
Jason Aldean (covers him in concert pretty much all his non ballad songs r a rip off of cowboy )



Cowboy should be an essential song has that began the country rap genre ala Big And Rich ,Jason Aldean and Colt Ford etc that is a genre he created and he popularized and caused rap metal to blow up with Bawitdaba. Why isnt All Summer Long essential he took hip hop elements of mashing songs into a country song and it went huge no one does that.

The thing about Kid Rock no album sounds the same. Grits was rap, Polyfuze was somewhere between punk and rap metal, EMSP was Gangsta Funk, Devil was Rap Metal, Cocky was Southern Rock, Kid Rock was Country, Jesus was Gospel Rock, Free was blues and Rebel Soul is hard rock. The only genre he hasnt charted on is jazz thats gotta say something.

Plus the band kills it live. You want to fault him for being rap or country or not picking a genre or because he thought Obama was horrible. But mainly because he bangs more chicks than you. David McMurray the saxaphone player was in The Rolling Stones and Was Not Was and his background singer was with Roger Niles. Aaron Julison the bass player played for Zoso and Northern Mississippi all stars. His other background singer Shannon Kurfman is an accomplised blues singer. Jimmie Bones who plays any key imaginable was in Robert Bradley's Blackwater Suprise. He has also had several big name musicians guest on his songs that ya'll say suck some of them are Kenny Wayne Shepphard (Black Bob), Alto Reed (Black Bob) ,Vinnie Dombroski (several),Chad Smith (Born Free album),Benmont Tench (Born Free album), Billy Gibbons (Hillbilly Stomp) some of those guys are in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame arent they ? but cause Kid's name is connected to the song they automatically suck.

27 million albums without Itunes aint bad and you can counter with AC/DC selling a trillion without Itunes but they been around since the 70's released more albums and had more years to sell. Plus the if it wasnt for the invention of classic rock radio in the late 80's those groups ( Zeppelin,Floyd, Beatles) sales wouldnt be nearly has impressive back in black sold 5 million albums when classic rock radio was launched. I think cd's came out around the same time so that help even more not sure when cds where invented maybe not. Lastly their a safe group and put out the same formulated song kid rock takes risk. Does Bawitdaba sound like Picture does Picture sound like All Summer Long does All Summer Long sound like Born Free...No. I compare AC/DC to Nickleback.AC/DC so overrated and bore me. Artist I respect because they have true talent is David Bowie,Neil Young, Pearl Jam,Pink Floyd they never stuck to a sound when they hit it big. Same with Kid and TBT.

PS- I cant stand that Wal Mart Back In Black riff its almost has lame has Smoke On The Water which Cat Scratch Fever ripped off.

Posted by Boobies on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 21:11pm


BTW Led Zeppelin is the biggest rip off group ever if you wanna knock kid for all summer long atleast he gives credit when he samples or covers a song and alters the lyrics ala Purple Sky or Happy New Year etc

Posted by biggerboobies on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 21:17pm


That question is a bigger joke than the rip-off it refers to!

Posted by LP on Saturday, 06.29.13 @ 05:48am


One of the greatest rockers I've seen live! Yeah, I think he'll be able to get in someday. The genre he mostly fits into seems very hard to define. Is it rap-rock? Country-rock? Hard-rock? Whatever. He's also worked with current HOFers as well, most of them mentioned by Roy above. I understand a lot of people don't like him or his music, but I say he definitely deserves to get in.

If anyone has the chance to see him live, do it!

Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 08.19.13 @ 12:33pm


Lets hope he gets IN

Posted by Happy on Monday, 08.19.13 @ 13:45pm


Let's not. Fu ck him.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 06.7.14 @ 17:47pm


Maybe... the RRHOF loves this guy.... and accept it or not he is really a good musician in his own right crossing genres from rap, rock, country and badassery...

Posted by seracerveza on Friday, 07.4.14 @ 16:52pm


Saw Kid Rock at Louder than Life fest in Louisville. He was at last year's Voodoo Fest, but I was seeing another act & missed him.

After you listen to several of his songs, you realize that in his own way/style, he's a lot like Kanye.

They both have very high opinions of themselves & relay that in their music/comments. The Kid leaves most of his bragging to the songs, while Kanye (when I saw him at Bonnaroo) generally went on monologues before breaking into a song.

I guess you can say this about a lot of artists, but I find his songs to sorta all sound the same after awhile. He also does more covers than the usual act in his slot would (IMO).

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10.7.14 @ 15:14pm


Country, rap, rock, blues. Can play every instrument in his band. The father of hick hop. Big time Bobby doesn't write songs, he writes anthems.

Posted by Rick Kruchten on Sunday, 05.31.15 @ 09:14am


Maybe this will be a controversial remark on my part, but I think Kid Rock actually has a decent chance appearing on a Rock Hall ballot within the next 10 or so years. Think about it, he inducted Aerosmith (2001), Bob Seger (2004), Lynyrd Skynyrd (2006), and now Cheap Trick (2016). Clearly the Rock Hall likes him and he often performs with those he inducts. This is the 4th time he inducted someone. I think Neil Young inducted more people in the Hall and of course he's a 2-time HOF-er. Not saying anything about his music here (I think he has some good songs in his catalogue, but he became mainstream and radically altered his persona in the 2000s) or comparing him to someone as great as Neil Young. I just think he has a good chance given he constantly appears at these events.

Posted by Nick on Monday, 02.15.16 @ 21:01pm


I say Kid Rock's chances of getting in the Hall are becoming better. I don't know who has inducted the most artists yet (besides what Nick mentioned with Neil Young), but this is a sure indicator. I agree that the Rock Hall clearly likes him. Who cares if he is a right-winger (Jann wouldn't like that!). I'm not sure if he's the rock hero of the present day (sure seems like he is), but as I stated in the above comments nearly 3 yrs ago, he is one hell of a live act. He stands up for the little guy. I'll go as far as saying the next five years he'll appear on a ballot. He's already eligible, even though Kid Rock didn't become mainstream until 1999. Maybe when his time comes, David Spade (in his Joe Dirt character) should induct him, and make staged peace. That would be a trip

Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 02.15.16 @ 22:29pm


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