|Rock & Roll Hall of Famer|
Inducted in: 2008
Inducted by: Billy Joel
First Eligible: 2002 Ceremony
Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2011 (ranked #228) .
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Way overdue. And not even in the 2007 ballot. *sigh*
Posted by DJ Dave M on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 08:56am
Definitely overdue. Does anyone know how to petition the hall?
Posted by MJL on Tuesday, 11.7.06 @ 21:44pm
That new Chevy commercial officially killed his chances for ever getting inducted. Sorry, John Mellencamp. It's not your fault, but you should have learned from the "Like a Rock" campaign that Chevy will play these things to death.
Posted by c.w. on Wednesday, 11.15.06 @ 08:30am
AMERICAN TREASURE AND ICON, please, WAY TOO LONG OVER DUE....
Posted by Sherri on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 07:56am
You almost think that its some sort of state jealousy and Ohio doesn't want some guy from Indiana to get in. Support your Midwestern neighbor and get him in there.
Posted by Mari on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 15:17pm
We do not decide it in Ohio. It is the idiots in New York who do. We do not even get the induction ceremony in Cleveland. Todd Rundgren is not in it too. They should move the hall to New York where they want it.
Posted by Jack on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 04:39am
Wannabe.... corporate rock, not influential...don't put him in.......
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 02.10.07 @ 18:56pm
I don't like the phrase corporate rock, it's used when people don't want to give details as to why they don't like something, a lot like "sellout". Mellencamp was a good songwriter in the regonalist/Americana tradition of Springsteen and Seger, but I think he falls short of Hall Standards. That Chevy commercial sure isn't helping him, that's for sure.
Posted by Kit on Saturday, 02.10.07 @ 22:29pm
Well, let me explain it then...lets see when he came out he was "John Cougar" - WHY?? Then he eventually went to "John Mellencamp." His songs were okay, but were very much pop top 40 like hits. I just don't think his on par with acts like Simon and Garfunkel, Springsteen, etc. In fact, he is not even close....
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 02.11.07 @ 06:52am
The John Cougar thing was something his manager came up with without even telling him. Mellencamp didn't even know about it until the album came out.
Posted by Kit on Sunday, 02.11.07 @ 11:31am
Likely story...in any case, the main point is that he is not on par with the "classics" in that genre - it is as simple as that. But, if he did get in, that would be fine b/c he is talented.
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 02.11.07 @ 17:30pm
Likely because it's true, and I agree.
Posted by Kit on Sunday, 02.11.07 @ 18:28pm
How can he not be in? One of the major artists from the early eighties through the nineties. If he is not in,he must have pissed off somebody.
Posted by me2 on Wednesday, 02.14.07 @ 09:55am
He has been a very influential rock artist almost right from the start of his career. It's completely ridiculous that he hasn't been inducted yet.
Posted by Christina on Sunday, 02.25.07 @ 07:42am
Yeah, Johnny Cougar's "I Need a Lover" really changed the face of rock and roll.
Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 02.25.07 @ 14:45pm
The failure to include Mellencamp in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is outrageous. He has been an incredibly gifted and prolific songwriter and performer for over a quarter of a century. His live shows have always been generously long, energetic and exciting. He was at the forefront of the music scene at the time of the MTV explosion with great tunes and videos; and he has just kept cranking out the music. When you're one of the best of your generation and have incredible staying power; you belong in the Hall. There is no rational basis for keeping him out when contemporaries like Petty and Seger are in.
Posted by john on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 14:47pm
Mellencamp should be in the hall of fame for one reason.HE DESERVES IT.
Posted by Larry on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 20:28pm
Hey "Anonymous": keeping John mellencamp out for your resons reeks of rock snobbery. So he's not seated beside the Church of Rock patron saints like Dylan, Springsteen and The Stones -- so, who is? They are mythical icons, the very rarest. Mellencamp is surely at LEAST eye to eye with Billy Joel, Bob Seger, ZZ Top, Blondie, Van Halen, etc. No classics? How can you hear Jack and Diane, Pink Houses, Small Town, Hurts So Good, R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A., Jackie Brown and not recognize American staples that stand the test of time? Everything he's done since Scarecrow is heartland America eloquence, sagacious and insightful and just good shit. He's managed to put out powerful, interesting stuff for 3 decades; give he man the respect he sorely deserves.
Posted by Shawn on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 00:10am
BY KIT: "Likely because it's true, and I agree"
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 17:44pm
When you write songs that say: "Don't you feel Jesus in a small town" that just does not seem to cut it for me - was he backed by the Republican party on that one?
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 17:47pm
Actually, I think the quote is "taught to fear Jesus in a small town." And JCM hasn't been backed by the Republican party in a long, long time. He has been one of the most ardent critics of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq.
Posted by KC on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 15:24pm
Either way...all that Jesus talk in Rock music makes me feel icky..........
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 12:39pm
He deserves it. Quick Fact: Dylan called JM for advice on his own songs. Tell me that someone who Dylan calls to get advice on music shouldn't be in the Hall. Crazy.
Posted by JenMI on Thursday, 03.29.07 @ 07:57am
How do you know he did that? Did you tap the phone?
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 03.29.07 @ 11:39am
John Mellencamp on George HW Bush:
Posted by Kit on Thursday, 03.29.07 @ 15:57pm
Yeah, it is real hard to find someone that is antibush these days........anyway, his music is just plain boring....
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 03.30.07 @ 17:34pm
The first two lyrics I quoted were from 1989.
Posted by Kit on Friday, 03.30.07 @ 22:26pm
I actually thought the "H.W." part kind of gave it away.
Posted by William on Friday, 03.30.07 @ 23:31pm
Frankly, it was my fault for bringing up politics (you know what they say about that), and apparently I am not allowed to make jokes about having a "sem-colon" rather than a colon. In any event, the point is that John "Cougar" is a sell out and he sucks....
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 04.4.07 @ 18:21pm
"What did J.M. do that makes you feel justified slinging that cliche "sellout" at him? What the hell does that mean, anyway?"
Posted by ANON on Monday, 04.9.07 @ 18:18pm
Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 04.11.07 @ 13:21pm
"Mine was that you misinterpreted JM's song lyrics in Small Town as being preachy Jesus talk and that was where your lack of intelligence was exposed."
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 04.11.07 @ 15:32pm
Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 04.11.07 @ 21:05pm
You are plain wrong. I was ignorant to the lyrics and did mishear them. I thought he said something totally different than what he actually said - it is that simple. As for my intelligence, I guess when I became a doctor they thought I was pretty smart..........
Posted by ANON on Thursday, 04.12.07 @ 07:36am
Anonymous says: "And, again, I do not care to respond to any of the other points, because I do not care that much about John Cougar, oh excuse me, Mellencrap
Posted by shawn on Friday, 04.13.07 @ 02:22am
Posted by ANON on Saturday, 04.14.07 @ 10:03am
Yea.... that's what I thought. You got nothin.
Posted by shawn on Sunday, 04.15.07 @ 15:45pm
Since you asked, I was being harsh with JM. I really have nothing against JM music. I actually enjoy some of it. To me, though it is very top 40ish, at least much of it. So, if he did get in, that would really not bother me.
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 04.17.07 @ 17:15pm
"I really have nothing against JM music.... To me, though it is very top 40ish, at least much of it."
Posted by shawn on Monday, 04.30.07 @ 12:08pm
Most of the bands you cite were creative and did their own thing, so to speak, and their success in "top 40" was more incidental. Whereas, in my opinion, JM was built for Top 40 from the start...I mean Hurts so Good, and Jack and Diane did not exaclty come later in his career. But, that being said, you are right, I think selling a lot of ALbums is what it is about for musicians. The fact that he did means something. I am just not sure he is HOF material...
Posted by Anon on Monday, 04.30.07 @ 13:18pm
Anon says: "Most of the bands you cite were creative and did their own thing.... and their success in "top 40" was more incidental."
Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 05.1.07 @ 09:45am
"No musician can sit around waiting for the world to discover them, immune from the demand to sell and be heard. That's some romantic fantasy you have there, man. Wake up."
Posted by Anon on Tuesday, 05.1.07 @ 13:55pm
Dude... "Cygnus X-1 or Bytor and the Snow Dog"?
Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 11:42am
If you can't figure out the difference between corporate rock, like JM, or bands like Rush, Yes, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, etc. then there is no point to continue discussing.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 12:14pm
Dude, why are you trying to take refuge in the pathetically tired cry of "agree to disagree"? You started this back in Feb. when you belched out - "Wannabe.... corporate rock, not influential...don't put him in.", and fron the start of my two cents I have just challenged the REASONS why you claim Mellencamp is not worthy. Debating this is the only reason we are typing away here, right?
Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 23:56pm
You won't change my alleged "prejudice." Bands like Rush, The Doors, Pink Floyd, etc. of course wanted to sell albums, as all artists do. However, it was and is to be on their terms. In fact, after Rush bombed with Caress of Steel, they were pressured by the record execs. to go a different way. Instead, they DID THEIR own thing, took a risk, and put out 2112, one of their most lauded albums. In fact, side ONE is exactly about that struggle (i.e. between artistic integrity and corpoorate pressures they felt).
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.3.07 @ 18:46pm
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 00:08am
If you do not agree, then tell me how did JM have a profound influence on Rock music and who did he influence?
Posted by Anon on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 11:55am
Mellencamp breathed new life into the singer-songwriter tradition, capturing a very authentic midwest feel, and as he progressed the instrumentation became more and more folksy, featuring fiddles prominently, especially on THe Lonesome Jubilee, his finest album. There is no other album like it in 1987, mainstream or not.
Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 12:28pm
AMEN Kit! Well said!
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 12:59pm
Kit says: "Mellencamp was a good songwriter in the regonalist/Americana tradition of Springsteen and Seger, but I think he falls short of Hall Standards."
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 16:39pm
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 17:45pm
YOU ARE 0-4 - almost as bad as the slump Bobby Abreu is in:
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.4.07 @ 18:47pm
Uh...... OK "Anonymous" -- I guess you can "win", since I have grown weary of debating with a 7th grader. You contradict yourself over and over, you misinterperet his lyrics, you bash JM one post then backpeddle and retreat, then bash a little again, you make nonsensical "points" (Won't Get Fooled Again is 8:32...) of trifiling or no use, you claim JM is not that important to you anyway, give me The Hand -- you've pretty much tried it all pal!
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 10:38am
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about...you take this way too personal...I even say + things about JM and somehow that is twisted in a negative way...you act is if any of this really matters...if he did get in the hall, uh, he would be getting inducted, not you...may want to get back on the haldol drip
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 14:13pm
I'll see your "Dude" and raise you an "Ass Clown"
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 14:39pm
Hey witness protection - I mean "Anonymous":
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 15:18pm
I am not trying to win anything...you just cannot dela with the fact that not everyone agrees with you. No to your nonsense:
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 15:24pm
Secret Squirrel says:
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 16:13pm
I really change my mind about whether Mellencamp deserves to be in the hall every other day. He's the definition of a borderline artist that could easily go either way. However, there's a precedent set with similar artists and I'd much rather have him in than Bob Seger.
Posted by Kit on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 16:27pm
See..your post would be meaningful and relevant. However, since I openly admitted I was a bit harsh on him...your post is wasteful and meaningless.
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 16:29pm
Kit - I am exhausting? You have basically pissed off everyone on various posts all over this webpage - that is undeniable. Y0ur way more exhausting... :-)
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 16:33pm
"However, there's a precedent set with similar artists and I'd much rather have him in than Bob Seger."
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 16:57pm
As one who has read Kit's stuff, I'd like to say he often makes me laugh so hard I tear up (see his Def Leppard summations - hysterical!!)
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 17:07pm
"He can be a bit abrasive, but he knows his stuff, he's sharp witted and insightful"
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 21:36pm
Also, Shwan, mb you should get checked for like ADHD. I have told you time and again...
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 05.5.07 @ 21:55pm
"PLAY TOM SAWYER, MAN!!!"
Posted by shawn on Sunday, 05.6.07 @ 10:00am
I'll take my Tom Sawyer any day over your "Little Pink Houses"...
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 05.6.07 @ 12:15pm
witness protection says: "- I do not see (JM) as a major force or innovator of music. Who has he influenced?"
Posted by shawn on Sunday, 05.6.07 @ 15:01pm
For the general masses...I agree...likely the top 40 song...for the forward thinking, non conforming individual...well, you know
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 05.6.07 @ 16:31pm
"Let's have some fun with this little question though, since you brought it up"
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 05.6.07 @ 19:29pm
Spy vs Spy/Anon says: "For the general masses...I agree...likely the top 40 song...for the forward thinking, non conforming individual...well, you know"
Posted by shawn on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 00:08am
I didn't know that preferring one song over another is referred to as "masturbation." Thank you for clearing that up - no one can disagree with you Shawn - that is a shame.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 06:06am
S-s-s-h-h... being "Anonymous" allows you to lob your inane dooky grenades and protect your alter ego. Although I'd have picked "By-tor" as your superhero character, considering.
Posted by shawn on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 09:03am
So, if I called myself Joe, Nick or Steve would you then somehow know me. Everyone on these posts is anonymous - duh.
Posted by Anon on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 09:35am
I guess I can understand why you want to keep your true name "On the DOWN-low" - shaving that 2112 pentagram on the back of your head is a bad look now, and you probably want to stay inconspicuous. I understand.
Posted by shawn on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 14:49pm
"Shawn" may be your "real" name, but you are still anonymous. No one knows your age, where you live, etc. So, calling yourself Shawn or Dave or Tim or Anon, is pretty much the same thing - if you can't figure that one out, don't know what to say.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 17:30pm
Jesus christ, shawn. Cut it out, talk music. this is some ridiculous bullshit.
Posted by Kit on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 18:51pm
Thanks Kit, never thought I would say that but half the time I do not even know what Shawn is talking about....
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 05.7.07 @ 19:31pm
Johnny Cougar Mellencamp is a difficult one, but I would lean towards saying "yes" on induction. And I think he will get in eventually, they just want to make him wait a couple of years because, rightly so, he deserves induction with some reservations.
Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 08:59am
You're right for the most part Kit; I let him get under my skin and went off the deep end a bit a few posts back when I rolled out his history of JM snarks. My bad for getting sucked in and throwing gasoline on his fire; I should learn to ignore wanks like him as much as possible.
Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 09:14am
That's a real tough call and I'm honestly not sure where I stand. I tend to think of it in terms of heirarchy and subgenre. If two bands are in the same genre, timeframe, etc, and one clearly made more innovations than the other, then I don't even want to consider the second band until the first is in. This means that a lot of bands that are on the outs, King Crimson, Joy Division, The Cure, etc. are holding a lot of other bands out too, just because those bands are behind them in line.
Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 11:53am
Shawn's question is the classic conflict between popular success and artistic merit, and which one should we focus on in the Hall. There are easy ones of course, like The Beatles, Who, Stones, Kinks...where they achieved both so those are shoe-ins.
Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 12:06pm
I see that. In an ideal Hall, the voters would respectfully follow the descending biological classifications of artists in a Species-Genus-Family.. model.
Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 12:08pm
Thanks Dezmond - I was typing as you were answering my question!
Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 12:14pm
I think it's all of the above. As a religious liner note reader, I pick up lots of statements by the artist or the critic or spin doctor or who ever is writing the liner notes about influences. Sometimes you just hear it in the music. Like with my latest musical obsession, The Hold Steady. You can just hear early Springsteen in their lyrics and music, as well as some Thin Lizzy in there (odd combo, I know, but it really works). And yes, sometimes it is pure speculation.
Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 12:46pm
I meant "Bill Graham", not Phil Graham.
Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 12:48pm
Dez says: "If Bill Graham, Berry Gordie...all these other people who infuenced the business of rock are in there, then Kiss has a place."
Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 13:14pm
One question Dezmond, up above, you said: "Yeah, Johnny Cougar's "I Need a Lover" really changed the face of rock and roll." That sounds like a sarcastic comment, suggesting NO for Hall induction. Then you changed your mind. Just wondering, why the change? Not being hostile in any way, just curious (I add this in because I do not want to be attacked - I am only wondering).
Posted by Anonympus on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 17:47pm
BTW, as for Shawn acting psychotic, he is to blame to some degree, but I admit that I went overboard, particularly with my earlier comments about JM. After all, I did call him "Mellencrap." So, if Shawn is a big JM fan, which I presume he is, then I can compliment his passion for supporting an artist he loves. I too have supported Rush and have been defensive as well, so I can understand his acting nutty. I mean I think at one point, he was talking about dead bodies in my neighbors yard :-)
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.8.07 @ 18:06pm
Anonymous, I only want to be held accountable to my last post. No fair going back several posts and pointing out my inconsistencies! I think I was just poking fun at The Coug's early years when I said that. But I think that he deserves induction for my more recent reasons stated. Good catch, though. =)
Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 05.9.07 @ 08:59am
I agree, saying Journey sucks is not insulting directly. But, one cannot criticize others for not elaborating, then engage in the same "behavior." Obviously, not everyone will like every band. I just think, something more elaborative without "sucks" is not only less insulting, but more informative. But, like I said, I should be the last to talk, since I have done the very same thing.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.9.07 @ 12:26pm
"Nobody should get offended about anything said about the bands or artists, no matter how harsh or disagreeable"
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.9.07 @ 16:56pm
I say he should get in at some point. But after that godawful song he made to sell Chevy trucks, I'd make him wait a while.
Posted by Creepozoid on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 01:34am
"I mean, Journey really pioneered the 80's Power Ballad, but is that a good thing that should be rewarded?"
Posted by Creepozoid on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 01:35am
Good point, Creep. The Chevy commercial song should give The Coug at least a 5 year penalty.
Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 08:04am
I disagree, Anonymous. You won't find many people as passionate about their favorite bands than I am, yet I feel it is perfectly fine to insult my favorite bands if someone wants to. Do I find it irritating? Do I think that person is an unenlightened heathen for not understanding the greatness of my favorite bands? Sure. Do I take it personally and feel it is a comment on my self-worth? No. Plus, half of it is fun banter and gets the real conversation kick started. That's how I feel about that issue.
Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 08:15am
"But after that godawful song he made to sell Chevy trucks, I'd make him wait a while." - Creepozoid
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 09:01am
Dez sez:"...half of it is fun banter and gets the real conversation kick started. That's how I feel about that issue"
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 09:15am
Creep: "Are you kidding me? The power ballads of the 80s are some of the best songs ever."
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 09:22am
And how do you really quantify the greatness or cheese quotient of, say, Journey's "Fathfully"? I say it is both great and extremely cheesy. Cheese can be good. But for every "Faithfully", there are 50 "Every Rose Has a Thorn". That is why I say perfecting the 80's Power Ballad is a dubious honor at best, when you consider its spawn.
Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 10:54am
"And how do you really quantify the greatness or cheese quotient of, say, Journey's "Fathfully"? I say it is both great and extremely cheesy."
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 11:13am
I think that a song (or an artist) can definitely be both cheese and great. Look at Tom Jones. That guy has made a career (very long one, at that) at being cheesy but also a lot of fun. I think the key for Jones is that he KNOWS he's cheesy, and therefore does it with a wink and plays it up. Put Tom Jones in the Hall, by God!
Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 14:52pm
Jack and Diane = cheesey? You think?
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 15:53pm
Calling Open Arms or Faithfully cheesy is just a way for a guy to keep his macho exterior, while still liking the songs. It is sort of like that scene from "Tommy Boy" in which Spade and Farley are in the car singing rock songs and then a "love ballad" comes on and they sort of look at each other, telling themselves, "I like this song, but will he think I am a wuss." Then of course they realize that both like the song - It is a great scene.
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 19:12pm
"Do I take it personally and feel it is a comment on my self-worth?"
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 19:15pm
Posted by t on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 19:21pm
"Yet I feel it is perfectly fine to insult my favorite bands if someone wants to."
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 20:23pm
Anonymous... Jesus H. Christ,...
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 01:21am
"Calling Open Arms or Faithfully cheesy is just a way for a guy to keep his macho exterior, while still liking the songs."
Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 01:52am
Also, I think we're all overlooking t's valuable contribution to this multi-layered discussion.
Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 01:53am
I think T was trying to say T-T-TIMMAY!
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 02:22am
I respect your opinion, but I disagree. It is interesting how you rarely respond to my posts, but this one struck a "chord." In any event, those were moving and very emotional songs, which would explain why they were so, so, so huge for Journey at the time- sometimes things are simple.
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 05:45am
"I am begging you Anon - just shut the fu*k up and stick to your post at the Rush house. Please shut the fuk up."
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 05:48am
"They are so beautiful and complex and nuanced and all sorts of positive adverbs. I get laughed at by some of my "macho man" acquaintances"
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 05:50am
Not to beat a dead horse. But, to clarify my reference about the cheesy / macho thing was specifically referring to people saying that they like the songs and simultaneously calling them cheesy. That clearly did not apply to Kit, who thinks all of Journey's music "sucks." Just wanted to clear that up - thus your "defenive" post with Joni M. was unncessary
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 06:11am
Again, why is cheesy bad? Journey's power ballads are objectively cheesy. There is no subjective about it. I just happen to think that "Faithfully" is quality cheese (say, some nice sharp cheddar), while "Open Arms" is bad cheese (say, the generic brand "cheese food product" offered at discount grocery stores). That is really the difference between "Faithfully" and "Open Arms". One, good cheese. The other, bad cheese.
Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 08:22am
So Dezmond - where on the cheese-o-meter would we find Jack and Diane?
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 09:20am
anon: "That clearly did not apply to Kit, who thinks all of Journey's music "sucks."
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 09:29am
"Again, why is cheesy bad?"
Posted by Anon on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 14:44pm
Anon says: "...- those Journey Ballads were classics and were great, emotionally moving songs.
Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 15:32pm
I would quantify them as follows:
Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 16:16pm
Ask a 1000 people, "If something is referred to as cheesy" what does it mean?
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 17:01pm
For funny...see Huey Lewis blog....
Posted by ANON on Friday, 05.11.07 @ 17:28pm
okay, I probably didn't need to qualify my statement with the Joni stuff. But, here's my take on why cheesy=bad.
Posted by Kit on Saturday, 05.12.07 @ 15:12pm
It's really amazing and a shame that JM hasn't been inducted in the Hall. The only thing I can think of is he made some enemies with his behavior along the way. Those that think of him as a "pop singer" have not listened to his body of work, guaranteed. "Words and Music" gives a fine overview and that album alone qualifies him, but he goes deeper than that. Although he's no springsteen (who is?), he is at least as worthy as Petty or Seger.
Posted by Bill on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 09:43am
Couldn't agree more heartily, Bill.
Posted by shawn on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 10:12am
My take....Joel and Petty are better than JM. But, JM is better than Seger and Browne
Posted by Anon on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 12:23pm
I'd rank them Petty, Browne, Mellencamp, Seger, Joel.
Posted by Kit on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 15:51pm
Na...lyrically and musically Joel is the front runner...not to mention that his greatest hits album is fifth best selling of all time.
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 18:19pm
I like all those artists and my ranking is strictly my opinion, but I feel Joel's lowlights drag him down. Petty has yet to have the sort of mis-step Billy had all through the eighties.
Posted by Kit on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 19:32pm
Yeah, totally awesome, gag me with a spoon...
Posted by Anon on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 12:17pm
Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 14:29pm
It was a poor attempt at humor b/c you had said "awesome." Remember back in the day, valley girl....anyway, it was dumb
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 19:31pm
John is way over due .... makes you relly wonder about the whole selection process !!
Posted by Debbie on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 20:10pm
JOHN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE ROCK N ROLLL HALL OF FAME AS SOON AS HE WAS UP AND THAT WAS IN 2001...ITS TIME TO ROCK N ROLL WITH JOHN BEING IN....SOME DAYS I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!PEACE
Posted by RHONDA on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 05:31am
John Cougar was not different or influential. Just top 40 garbage. He is a fuckin sell out too...no way
Posted by Gary on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 16:41pm
"He is a fuckin sell out too.."
Posted by shawn mc on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 17:36pm
John Cougar Mellencamp is to Bruce Springsteen what the Beatles are to Freddie and the Dreamers. Actually, if they would quit filling the HOF with such as the Jackson Five, the Ronettes and all of that (c)rap, there would be plenty of room for Mellencamp, Jethro Tull, the Moody Blues, Chicago, ELP, ELO and Yes!
Posted by punster1941 on Friday, 06.22.07 @ 03:55am
Sorry punster1941, but anyone with ears or an appreciation for the canon of rock would take Jackson Five/The Ronettes over any of those dated, and dare I say it, boring classic rock acts you mentioned.
Posted by Casper on Friday, 06.22.07 @ 13:46pm
Hey, Casper - Everybody knows that classic rock rules, with the Beatles as its masters. Using the term "rock" to describe the Ronettes is like characterizing something from McDonals's or Pizza Hut as "food". You're probably a big Archies fan, and it wouldn't surprise me if your all-time favorite song was "Chapel of Love".
Posted by punster1941 on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 20:01pm
Casper you seriously prefer the Ronettes to Jethro Tull!! I mean I am not even sure you can call the ronettes musicians.Jethro Tull were great musicians and their early bluesy prog songs are definitly not boring and dated.
Posted by roméo on Tuesday, 09.4.07 @ 13:16pm
The music of J5 and The Ronettes is amongst the catchiest, most meticulously crafted pop music of the era. Jethro Tull and Chicago have no music of such caliber.
Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 09.4.07 @ 14:32pm
John Mellencamp is an anti-American pig. He talks about how "great" America is in songs like "Pink Houses" and "Our Country", but he just contradicts himself. He might donate money to the farmers every year, but what pisses me off is how he invited Joan Baez to protest the war in front of Walter Reade Hospital where there were,and still are heroic patriotic troops recovering from Iraq. That is totally 100%
Posted by danny on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 07:46am
"but what pisses me off is how he invited Joan Baez to protest the war in front of Walter Reade Hospital"
Posted by liam on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 07:58am
here's what i think of his music career
Posted by danny on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 08:40am
a final opinion which says nothig about whether or not he should be inducted. well done
Posted by liam on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 09:03am
" John Mellencamp is an anti-American pig...he just contradicts himself. He might donate money to the farmers every year, but what pisses me off is how he invited Joan Baez to protest the war"
Posted by shawn on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 12:37pm
I said it before and I'll say it again. It's amazing the amount of hate and disrespect Mellencamp gets. I guarantee without a doubt many of those who disrespect him have not listened completely to his albums. To those ignorant idiots who think he is nothing more than a shallow pop singer, go listen to HUMAN WHEELS, or JOHN MELLENCAMP, or FREEDOMS ROAD a couple of times with an unbiased ear. He's consistently made solid music for over 20 years, yet noone seems to listen.
Posted by Bill on Saturday, 09.29.07 @ 13:48pm
He's a LOCK this year (FINALLY). 3 decades of incredible writing... For those of you who don't seem to know how things work in advertising...the songs come first, then the corporations come in and buy them up because they are GOOD, CATCHY or fit the image they want to place on their product. Hello, legends like the Who sell their songs all the time and John Lennon's "Instant Karma" was the song for NIKE for quite awhile. So saying he sold out to Chevy is an argument that just doesn't hold water. Fact is, Mellencamp has 10 to 15 iconic songs that have stood the test of time and that is alot more than half the people already in the Rock Hall. He deserves to be in and will be this year.
Posted by Randy on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 12:34pm
Posted by Randy on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 13:01pm
not really worthy...A BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN KNOCK-OFF.
Posted by Charleton on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 14:43pm
not really worthy...A BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN KNOCK-OFF.
Posted by Charleton on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 14:43pm
To call him a Springsteen knock-off is asinine. He got that label early in his career and it hasn't been accurate since 1980. Get with the times. Mellencamp most certainly deserves induction and will get in this year. It's long overdue. He'll shut the mouths of his moronic detrators once and for all.
Posted by David on Wednesday, 10.3.07 @ 23:40pm
I think he was trying to be Springsteen in the Jack and Diane era but in the mid 80's managed to carve out a niche for himself by combining rockabilly and square dance music....kind of a neat sound. Songs like Walk Tall are a positive message..........
Posted by SG on Wednesday, 10.3.07 @ 23:57pm
"but in the mid 80's managed to carve out a niche for himself by combining rockabilly and square dance music....kind of a neat sound." -SG
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 10.4.07 @ 10:30am
"Appreciate your support of JM, SG, but he wasn't remotely either of those charicatured sounds. That's just silly - but that's what you were probably going for." Shawn
Posted by SG on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 02:09am
man this john, is another one.. who shouldve been inducted years ago.. whats wrong with some peps these days.. come on.. put him through
Posted by popeye on Sunday, 10.7.07 @ 13:23pm
Let me just say that the above comments were generic enough that it could just be someone else named Shawn. I don't claim to know.
Posted by William on Monday, 10.22.07 @ 05:40am
How is Mellencamp not in already? Way, Way, Way, Way....Overdue!
Posted by Shane on Monday, 10.29.07 @ 16:35pm
Way, Way, Way, Way....Overdue
Posted by Anyonomous on Thursday, 11.8.07 @ 17:20pm
HAHAHAHAHA...... Is this really you saying this shit, Anon?
Posted by shawn on Thursday, 11.8.07 @ 19:18pm
That was not me...some other dude posing as me :-) I think JM is pretty good and I like his music...I am on the fence for the hall, but that was not me
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 11.8.07 @ 19:23pm
In Regards to Anyonomous (note spelling), those who state JM is a Springsteen wannabe have not bothered to listen to all of JM's work, and anyone who states that Springsteen isn't that good of an artist loses all semblance of credibility. JM's music and sound is original and his own. The only similarity to Bruce is their exploration of issues relevant to Americans. Both do it in their own style.
Posted by Bill on Friday, 11.9.07 @ 11:02am
Hey Kit, Mellancamp should be in regardless of the name change or not. Do you think he is the only artist who has done that. Your probably the same a hole who will vote for that no talent pig britney.
Posted by Randy on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 11:30am
"Your probably the same a hole who will vote for that no talent pig britney."-Randy
Posted by William on Saturday, 11.17.07 @ 11:44am
Posted by greg on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 14:34pm
I forgot other songs
Posted by greg on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 14:41pm
Ha you're really fucking funny greg, you know that?
Posted by liam on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 14:44pm
In a juvenile, right-wing, baptist american shit for brains kind of way.
Posted by greg on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 14:58pm
"Mellencamp's as American as a rotten apple shoved up my ass."
Posted by Liam, Arbiter of Good Taste on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 15:03pm
I am Liam, Arbiter of Good Taste!!!!!!!!
Posted by greg on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 15:20pm
Yeah, wait, did I ever actually say he was good?
Posted by liam on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 15:25pm
"And I could name better artists thann those you listed"
Posted by greg on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 16:13pm
This list is kind of dubious, as I actually am into some of the bands you listed. But here we go:
Posted by liam on Saturday, 12.8.07 @ 16:21pm
You Mellencamp haters are really ridiculous. Go away now, really. Theres no place for you here. I wouldn't mind if you came up with some intelligent anti-JM arguments, but you can't. Your views revolve around matters of taste, not credibility. Now I can go on and on JM and his band, but if you haven't got it by now, you never will, so I won't waste my breath. He's finally in. All that matters.
Posted by Bill on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 09:37am
"You Mellencamp haters are really ridiculous"
Posted by greg on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 17:17pm
Mellencamp is as American as:
Posted by harry on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 17:45pm
Hello danny - what demon gnaws at your diseased Frankenpatriot brain that compels you to slobber out such puerile hatred for John Mellencamp?
Posted by shawn on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 23:08pm
"and he says he's "all-American" when really he ridicules our president and the present war."
Posted by liam on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 11:18am
"Also, if you're idea of "patriotism" is mindless obedience and zero-critiscism to whatever government happens to be in power, then you're an incredibly stupid little fuck head who will gain no respect on this site."
Posted by harry on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 16:52pm
Hello danny - what demon gnaws at your diseased Frankenpatriot brain that compels you to slobber out such puerile hatred for John Mellencamp?You have no actual knowledge of the man's music, and you're obviously of the same cloth as a Nazi skinhead; only thing that distinguishes you from other hate filled animals like white supremicists and Al Quaida terrorists is you grabbed an American flag to drape over your need to hate in your juvenile attempt to legitimize it.
Posted by harry on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 16:59pm
Well harry, if your U.S.ofA. beatin' heart motivates you so forcefully as to feel comfortable placing Mellencamp's own American sentiments side by side with fecal matter, Adolf Hitler, a vandalized flag and a dead bald eagle, then I'm going to go ahead and assume that you have a very thorough knowledge of John Mellencamp's music and an abundance of examples to give us of his reprehensible anti-American propaganda, yes?
Posted by shawn on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 18:15pm
Shawn, or whoever you are today I really think I was clear in my posting and all you seem to do at this site is start arguments with people about things that are not even related to music.
Posted by harry on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 19:24pm
Hey "harry" or whoever YOU are - (you better be very careful... hahaha)- I asked you a very specific question that is both entirely about music and is a response to YOUR own post.
Posted by shawn on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 21:28pm
You watching this, Liam? He really thinks I can't see him under there. This is hilarious.
Posted by shawn on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 21:29pm
You can stress the same brainless gobble bobble till your red neck turns blue, but until you spit out some actual facts or sound reasons, it'll just be you pissing in the wind some more. loudmouth.
Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 12.12.07 @ 22:04pm
If you want proof like you want go to this webpage
Posted by harry/danny on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 09:35am
"He talks about being lied to by the government and wanting to take it back"
Posted by Ryan on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 09:40am
Ryan, the government didn't lie to us and you know it. We'e in Iraq for protection from being attacked and avoiding another 9/11. If someone was a true patriotic American, they would see how
Posted by harry/danny on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 09:59am
NOTE: All views expressed by danny are strictly his own and not necessarily representing the opinions of all Americans.
Posted by A-Killa on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 10:09am
"Ryan, the government didn't lie to us and you know it."
Posted by Ryan on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 11:38am
Liam, give me your view on Mellencamp now, and don't say that he's the best, because that doesn't count. If you can find articles that contradict the articles that I gave, then do it.
Posted by harry/danny on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 12:55pm
At the moment, I'd say my opinion isn't relevant: he's been inducted, and YOU were the one who used Mellencamp's so called "anti-patriotism" as a factor toward why he shouldn't be/have been inducted.
Posted by liam on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 13:04pm
"YOUR IDOL IS A TRAITOR AND HE SHOULD BE HUNG AT THE GALLOWS.." - danny
Posted by shawn on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 14:49pm
Shawn, Liam, Ryan have you any fucking idea what I'm trying to say. I think I was right the whole
Posted by harry/danny on Saturday, 12.15.07 @ 07:24am
"Mellencamp isn't just a pacifist
Posted by shawn on Saturday, 12.15.07 @ 08:00am
"Shawn, Liam, Ryan have you any fucking idea what I'm trying to say"
Posted by liam on Saturday, 12.15.07 @ 08:34am
I'm the only one who is actually making sense here. Oh and by the way liam, true patriotism is shooing away those who ridicule our president, and our war as well as hanging all the traitors.
Posted by harry/danny on Sunday, 12.16.07 @ 07:59am
"I'm the only one who is actually making sense here."
Posted by liam on Sunday, 12.16.07 @ 08:26am
Foghat. Johnny Winter. Lou Reed. Alice Cooper. Shit, AC wrote some great 3-4 minute rock songs. Grand Funk.........never a big fan but they were there from early on.
Posted by j scott on Sunday, 12.16.07 @ 09:05am
"Jack and Diane" one of the worst songs of the boring 80's. There are much better artists outthere. Instead of Mellencamp, Jeff Beck should be in the RRHF.
Posted by Sam on Monday, 01.14.08 @ 00:38am
Before you flame, please read the entire post.
Posted by TAG on Tuesday, 01.15.08 @ 12:03pm
TAG, if JM shouldn't get in, neither should many, many others who have already gotten in. If you want to limit it to The Beatles, Stones, Dylan, Springsteen, Elvis and a few others, fine, then he doesn't belong. But when the Hall lets Seger, Petty, Patty Smith, Van Halen, Ramones, among countless others in, JM unquestionably belongs.
Posted by Bill on Friday, 01.18.08 @ 13:45pm
If you are a true American who wants the U.S. to bomb the living shit out of our enemies then boycott JM's music because apparently he sides with the enemy because he doesn't want people to bomb Bin Laden in the event he's found. I was a JM fan until I saw him in 2003 in concert when he
Posted by leonard on Friday, 01.18.08 @ 19:07pm
Bill, I agree that there are plenty of acts that might not be worthy, but it's funny, most of the acts you mentioned, in my opinion, are very deserving. Again for ongoing influence, The Ramones, Patti Smith and Petty are not going away in my lifetime. Van Halen really taught a lot of bands how to put on a good show, there were others before them, but they really perfected the idea of not standing on stage and just playing. Again, just my opinion, and this is no knock on Mellencamp, I have several albums on my ipod, and enjoy them regularly, just don't think that he is particularly original or influential. I do however agree about Seger for the same reasons, love his music, but don't think he should be in either (although he did, if I'm not mistaken, make a decent name for himself as a songwriter in addition to performer).
Posted by TAG on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 06:59am
Shut the fukk up Leonard - you're an imbecile.
Posted by Blue on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 09:34am
TAG, your sentiment has been echoed by others as far as influene goes and I understand that point of view. JM oddly has been much more influential for country artists than today's rock. Keith Urban, Kenny Chesney and others have cited JM as influential to their music. I just listened to The Lonesome Jubilee the other day for the first time in a while, and the freshness, eloquence and originality of that sound stood out as if I heard it the first time. I can't think of another record that sounds like that. This sound more often influences today's country than rock.
Posted by Bill on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 11:11am
Leonard obviously has some misplaced aggression issues. That, coupled with one of those dumb-downed 'us vs them' views of the world makes for a lovely combination. He's one of the worst kinds of mock patriots; I am embarrassed of him as a fellow American
Posted by Blue on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 18:55pm
Leonard is obviously a joke. (nobody really thinks like him). Ignore him.
Posted by Bill on Sunday, 01.20.08 @ 11:33am
"At least I'm not a self hating American"
Posted by Blue on Sunday, 01.20.08 @ 23:13pm
JOHN MELLENCAMP"AKA" JOHN KING MENSTRAL CRAMP"MY FAVPRITE ARTIST OF THE LAST 30 YEARS--YES JOHN I BOUGHT YOUR FIRST ALBUM IN 1979-BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU LOOKED COOL AND BOY WAS I WRONG--I BOUGHT ALL OF YOUR ALBUMS FROM 1979--2004 OR SO--NOW YOU SHOULD RETIRE PEACEFULLY-IN FLORIDA NEXT TO A JEWISH COUPLE SOMEWHERE AND ANYWAYS ITS AN HONOR TO SEE YOU GET INDUCTED IN TO THE HALL OF FAME IN 2008!NOW WITH YOU BEING INDUCTED AND ESPECIALLY WITH BILLY JOEL INDUCTING YOU--I FEEL THEY SHOULD WITHOUT QUESTION MAKE DWARF THROWING A TRUE LEGAL AND LEGITIMATE SPORT BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU AND BILLY SCARY ME YOU ARE BOTH EXTREMELY DANGEROUS INDIDIVIDUALS AND SHOULD APPREHENDED IMMEDIETLY AT ONCE BY THE NON CHURCH POLICE AND NON GESTAPO MUSIC AUTHORITY PEEPS...JOHN WHEN YOU SING"YOU CAN BEND ME OR BREAK ME BUT YOU GOTTA STAY CLEAR IN YOUR SONG"WALLS COME TUMBLING DOWN"I ALMOST SH-T IN MY PANTS A-SAP AFTER HEARING THAT LINE,,,(DUDE YOU HAVE HAD MORE PUTANG IN YOUR CAREER THAN A PUTANG PLANT( A LESBOSOS PLANT--FROM PLANET LESBOSOS)...ALSO WALLS--YOU MUST MEAN PUTANG WALLS COME TUMBLING JOYFULLY...EVERYONE GATHER AROUND AND NOW HERES THE DEAL...SHORT PEOPLE ARE VERY Dangerous-WHETHER BEING NUTRADOMIOUS OR NAPEOLEAN OR EVEN STALIN OR THE ULTIMATE SICKO TRICKY DICK VON ADOLF"THE H MAN" NIXON...YOU ARE NOW AN A.I.G.F.L. "AN IMMORTAL GENTILE FOR LIFE"...JOHN YOUR THE BEST AND THANKS... P.S. KEEP BEING OBNOXIOUS LIKE BILLY JOEL AND I'LL BIOTCH SLAP YOU(HAHA ONLY KIDDING HAHA ITS ALL COOL AND YOUR THE BEST AND YOU ROCK! MY BROTHER,PEACE,2008!P.S. YOU BETTER INVITE ME TO THAT CEREMONY..DAN BARCAN...NEW JERSEY,USA...
Posted by DAN BARCAN on Sunday, 03.2.08 @ 10:00am
P.S.. JOHN YOU SHOULD BRING A REGULAR GUY LIKE ME(DAN BARCAN) UP ON STAGE FOR A SHORT INTRODUCTION-IT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS YOU BEING THE FIRST REAL ARTIST WHO EVER CARED WHAT A FAN THOUGHT-- EVEN SLIGHTLY ABOUT HIS FANS!BUT YOU PROBABLY WONT AND PLUS I
Posted by DAN BARCAN on Sunday, 03.2.08 @ 10:17am
JOHN--HEY DAN SAYING HI AGAIN...-- LOOK::: LISTEN :::SINCE YOUR GERMAN AND BILLY JOEL IS JEWISH(AND DANGEROUS WHEN INTOXICATED--HEY DRIVE OVER AND THROUGH ANY HOUSES LATELY WILLIAM???BILLY SHOULD BE HIRED WITH JUST HIS LITTLE SPORTS CAR TO BE THE FIRST SMALL CAR AND SMALL PERSON SINGULAR RECKING CREW COMBINATION TO BE USED AS A HOUSE BULLDOZER AND A STADIUM DESTROYER AND REMOVER--OH WAIT A SECOND::: SOMEONE JUST DROVE THROUGH MY LIVING ROOM::i KNEW I SHOULD NEVER HAVE RENTED A HOUSE IN LONG ISLAND,,,P.S.NOW BILLY DON'T YOU LAUGH AT ALL::: DO YOU POSSIBLY KNOW WHATS ITS LIKE TO BE DANCING(LIKE FRED ASTAIRE INCOINCIDENTALLY IN THE AIR WHILE YOUR EATING DINNER OR SITING ON YOUR COUCH IN YOUR LIVING ROOM--I THINK I LEARNED HOW TO FLY THANKS TO YOU BILLY SCMUCK BUT ITS ALL COOL-ITS OK::ITS ALL GOOD--YOUR BRO IS HERE::: ANYWAYS JOHN WHAT WAS I SAYING??OH YEA--I'M BOTH JEWISH AND ENGLISH AND GERMAN(WITH AN IRISH FIRST AND LAST NAME WITH AN ENGLISH BACKGROUND--YOU WONDER WHY I'M SO F-CKED UP???ANYWAYS JOHN AND BILLY LIKE DOESN'T THAT MEAN WE SHOULD ALL BE AT THE HALL OF FAME TOGETHER??? WE ARE ALL BROTHERS ANYWAYS:::OH WAIT A SECOND--DAMN I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT--I HAVE TO PICK MY NOSE AND WATCH MORE TELEVISION RE-RUNS THAT NIGHT--IS IT MARCH 10TH GUYS??...JOHN ITS ABOUT ALL OF US--ALL 3 OF US--AND MAINLY YOU JOHN AND YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS)THE ROCK AND ROLL FAMILY-DON'T SELL OUT COMPLETELY(SAVE THAT FOR BILLY-- HAHA J/K)YOU GOTTA LET ME PRE--INTRODUCE YOU OR AT LEAST MINIMALLY HAVE A SEAT NEAR THE KING(ME)HAHA-- OK YOUR THE KING-I HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT YOUR THE BEST THING ROCK AND ROLLS GOT!HERES MY SPEECH:::LADIES AND GENTLEMAN::PEOPLE OF THIS INSTUTION WE CALL THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ::JOHN MELLENCAMP IS THE FIRST SO CALLED ROCKSTAR TO ACTUALLY BRING UP ONE OF HIS FANS-MYSELF FOR SURE DAN BARCAN:::NOT DYLAN,JAGGER OR MCCARTNEY(THAT IRISH PRICK--(JOKING PAUL)-(I LOVE YOU BROTHER)FROM HIS AMAZING FIRST OFFICIAL ALBUM IN 1979 SIMPLY TITLED JOHN COUGAR SMOKING A CIG(THOSE THINGS ARE DANGEROUS JOHN--P.S. IS YOUR CHOLESTEROL STILL 240??YOUR SISTERS 300??))) LIKE A NEW JAMES DEAN OF HIS GENERATION I THINK I BOUGHT YOUR ALBUM IN 1979 AND A GUY CALLED DB COOPER THAT DAY(MY CAREER HAS GONE LIKE DB'S ITS ALL IN THE INITIALS-ANYWAYS!ALSO I WOULD LATER BUY CHESTNUT STREET INCIDENTS(AND EXPERIENCE HUMAN TORTURE FIRST HAND--JOHN BURN THOSE EARLY ALBUMS(JOKING)...LIKE MY IDOL DON RICKLES AKA "UNCLE FESTER" I TRULY ADMIRE YOUR ARTISTIC INTEGRITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS--DON IS ONE OF YOUR ENTERTAINMENT PEERS YOUR BOTH OLDER THAN DIRT BUT WE ALL LOVE YOU ANYWAYS:::(P.S.ATTENTION JOHN OH JOHN ARE YOU THERE??EXCUSE ME" PLEASE BURN "NOTHING MATTERS WHAT IF IT DID" AND "AMERICAN FOOL ALSO--OK I TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT "AMERICAN FOOL",ANYWAYS JOHN IS REALLY ONE OF US NO MATTER HOW HARD HE TRIES NOT TO BE...HE SINGS FOR ALL OF US ABOUT THE STRUGGLES OF EVERYDAY LIFE FOR THE MODERN DAY MAN BASING A LOT OF THOSE THEMES ON GENERATIONS BEFORE US>>>MORE THAN ANY ARTIST SINCE WOODY GUTHRIE-JOHN IS THE TRUE VOICE FOR EVERYMAN -ESPECIALLY THOSE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE TROUBLE FINDING WORK- QUITE OFTEN(INCLUDING NOW),PEOPLE WHO ARE UNIQUE GET LEFT OUT"""I NEVER HAD NO WEIRD HAIR TO GET MY SONGS OVER" PEOPLE WHO DON'T FIT INTO THESE FAKE CORPORATIONS AND CONSTANT GREED MACHINES AND ANY GENERATION COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT::: MEANING ITS ABOUT--US ALL:::-- NOT JUST SOME OF US::: JOHN YOU BROUGHT THAT TO THE WORLDS ATTENTION THAT WE ALL CAN PLAY AT SOME POINT ON THE WORLDS STAGE WITH ARE TRULY UNIQUE VISIONS AND ARTISTIC ENDEAVORS AND FREE SPIRIT THOUGHTS AND INTELLECTUAL MINDS:::THANKS JOHN AND KEEP ON CHOOGLIN--THANKS JOHN FOGERTY AND WELCOME TO THE GENTILE HALL OF FAME AND SH-T+ WHOOPS:::JOHN FOGERTY PLESE ACCEPT YOUR AWARD A-SAP SORRY WRONG JOHN(FOGERTY),JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP YOU KNOW I MEAN YOU--THIS ENTIRE ROCK AND ROLL COMMUNITY OWES YOU GRATITUDE(DID I SPELL GRADITUDE RIGHT JOHN?WHY I HAVE NO DAMN IDEA??BUT WE ALL DO(OR IS IT DUE?)OR DOO?)JOHN NOW HERES YOUR FAVORITE DWARF AND MINE LADIES AND GENTLEMAN BILLY AKA WILLIAM JOEL TO GIVE YOU HIS FULL SPEECH OF WHAT YOU MEAN TO THE GENTILE AND NON GENTILE COMMUNTIES BILLY TAKE IT AWAY!DB IN DA GENTILE HOUSE--PEACE OUT PEEPS...DB...PRE HALL OF FAME SPEECH FOR JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP!!!(WE ALL HOPE THIS CAN BE FOR REAL BUT DONT COUNT ON IT...)DB...
Posted by DAN BARCAN on Wednesday, 03.5.08 @ 22:48pm
Hey John+Staff please if you don't mind reminding Jann Wenner for me and his and your staff please-- that i will need a Limo to and from the Waldorf Hotel,a private room,a song or 2,a speech or 2(all expenses and my complete stay paid for by Jann+yoru staff John(you have 100 million or so John this like a worker buying an extra sandwhich in his lunch pale at 7/11 for another worker-just a drop in the bucket!(Have Rolling Stone magazine right it off as a non diplomatic expense--a meeting of the gentile and non gentile minds if you feel more comfortable about that John+staff...Top of the Line treatment for me,myself and I(Dan Barcan) and all access to chill or as i put it john,,,chillski...Peace and hope to see you guys on monday!DB...
Posted by DAN BARCAN on Saturday, 03.8.08 @ 15:39pm
DAN...when Dr. Dimento gets inducted I'm almost POSITIVE he will send a limo for you!!!
Posted by Terry on Saturday, 03.8.08 @ 16:14pm
Wow. This board is even more interesting than Madonna's. Lets face it JM is simply a very mediocre artist. Ask anyone on the street how many songs can they name by him. You would be lucky to get two or three. Granted popularity is not prerequisit for the hall, but then again how many artists has he influenced?
Posted by Jake on Saturday, 03.22.08 @ 23:01pm
".but then again how many artists has he influenced?"
Posted by Blue on Saturday, 03.22.08 @ 23:20pm
Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.2.08 @ 09:27am
JAKE--I THINK I MAY BE THE ONLY ARTIST INFLUENCED(SLIGHTLY)BY JOHN KING COUGAR JOHNSON MENSTRAL CRAMPS...DAN b...
Posted by DAN BARCAN on Thursday, 04.10.08 @ 14:42pm
Good question Roy. I think that's a definite possibility, considering I know a lot about John and the Clash is one of my all-time favorite bands.
Posted by a on Friday, 04.11.08 @ 07:37am
Jake, I would venture to say the average guy on the street knows at least as many JM songs as Springsteen songs. Most of his "Words and Music" album is very familiar to many. As far as influence, his music, especially Lonesome Jubilee era stuff is very influential to modern country/country rock.
Posted by Bill on Monday, 04.14.08 @ 16:57pm
I have pondered the question for a number of years regarding the current motives of various "High profile" award associations.
Posted by Scott Russell on Tuesday, 04.15.08 @ 23:14pm
Rock & Roll Jeopardy
Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 22:12pm
Rock & Roll Jeopardy
Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 22:20pm
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Posted by Celexa on Tuesday, 08.24.10 @ 10:20am
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Posted by Celexa on Tuesday, 08.24.10 @ 12:39pm
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Posted by Celexa on Tuesday, 08.24.10 @ 14:43pm
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Posted by Celexa on Tuesday, 08.24.10 @ 16:38pm
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Posted by Exercise Bike on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 03:23am
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Posted by Exercise Bike on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 09:16am
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Posted by Makita on Saturday, 09.25.10 @ 12:24pm
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Posted by Skill on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 03:15am
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Posted by Power Tools on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 07:33am
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Posted by Piercings on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 14:10pm
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Posted by Jewels on Friday, 10.22.10 @ 11:46am
"Jack and Diane" one of the worst songs of the boring 80's. There are much better artists outthere. Instead of Mellencamp, Jeff Beck should be in the RRHF.
Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 14:45pm
"Jack and Diane" is a great song. Me and my girlfriend, Diane (seriously), used to listen to this all the time and just rock out and make love to it. Then after she left me I used to beat off to it all the time. Still, Great tune!
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Posted by searchenginewatch on Monday, 11.8.10 @ 03:59am
Cherry Bomb-The Runaways 1976
Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 10.12.13 @ 12:36pm
One of the greatest RRHOF decisions was to elect John Mellencamp.I guess induct is the better word choice. Carried the Heartland baton when Dylan,Seger,etc. started it rolling.
Posted by KING on Thursday, 02.20.14 @ 14:00pm
Saw him last weekend in St. Louis! Very great show. Did a lot of his new songs (which were actually pretty good) and his 80s classics. No middle ground, meaning hardly any 90s or 2000s stuff. Still, no complaining. He still knows how to pack a house, and rock it! I can tell he's kind of showing his age, judging by the way he was walking. Maybe its just me. Either way, he's a legend in his own right. I hope to continue to my quest to see more RRHOFers this summer
Posted by Jason Voigt on Saturday, 06.6.15 @ 23:51pm
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