Iron Butterfly

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 1993 (The 1994 Induction Ceremony)

Previously Considered? Yes  what's this?


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In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (1968)

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Will Iron Butterfly be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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yep I asked to add this band to the list. Perhaps ot a great group but In a gadda da vida is a classic and they were needed i think

Posted by roméo on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 10:58am


Not much good to listen to, but they are historically significant, and probably more likely to get in that the more deserving Blue Cheer. Don't get me wrong, ideally they should both be in, but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Blue Cheer.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 11:04am


Iron Butterfly is the only reason that any metal has ever existed.Remember, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is about influence, not how good soeone is.

Posted by James on Friday, 07.6.07 @ 11:00am


"Remember, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is about influence, not how good someone is."

Of course it's about the quality of the music as much as it's about influence. A Hall full of shit would be ludicrous. Besides, generally speaking, while quality can beget shit immitators,
and shit can beget shit,
rarely does shit beget quality, so shit's influence is limited by its own nature.

Posted by shawn mc on Friday, 07.6.07 @ 11:42am


I wouldn't exactly call Iron Butterfly shit, but I do place more importance on their influence on early metal bands than on how they themselves sounded. I think quality is at least more subjective than influence if not entirely, and while you could say "they were shit" and it be an honest (if simple) assessment, you could not similarly say "they were not innovative or influential."

Posted by William on Friday, 07.6.07 @ 14:41pm


come

Posted by zzy on Thursday, 12.6.07 @ 09:45am


Why? Just because of that ONE SONG??? And not a very good one at that. No No No NO!!! The hall of fame have enough one trick ponies inducted. Maybe they can't be kicked out, but they shouldn't let anymore in.

Posted by qoz on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 14:23pm


Heavy was an album way ahead of its time. The guitar playing was the first "Hard" rock to be found (exceptions being Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix and Mike Bloomfield) but it still had a blues feel. One thing that stands out was the infusion of organ and fuzz guitar and Heavy even had a jazzy feel at times with a surprising modal feel to the scale/melody lines. I like Doug's vocals but the other members give great contributions. Doug was truly a great organ player.

Posted by abdulfez on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 07:15am


Besides Sandy Nelson,Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich,G. Baker,Ron Bushy of Iron Butterfly started a lot of Rock n' Roll drum solos popularity. A lot of great rock bands were influenced by Butterfly;Although they may not admit it. IB had a good following and were extremely popular. They demanded that they be flown into Woodstock by helicopter to avoid the crowds. They were not granted that request, because the others,(Hendrix, Who,Santana), waited like everyone else. That pretty much finished Iron Butterfly.Eric Bran played good psychedelic guitar along with Doug on organ.They were a big influence at a very important time in Rock. Many psychedelic bands came and went rapidly at a very fickle and turbulent time in music. Give them their due.They were much better than some soft rock groups that have been inducted already. Mark

Posted by Mark Glew on Saturday, 05.31.08 @ 19:39pm


I would like to direct this post to Dameon, to jog some memories. I was just on my subscription service and went to the Iron Butterfly page, listened to "Iron Butterfly Theme"...talk about a song that was the very definition of "Acid Rock"!! I'll bet I hadn't heard it since high school...lol!!! Just wondering if you also remember it!! They actually had more than "the 17 minute drum solo", that wasn't bad at all. Not that I think they should be in the HOF, but it was a blast hearing it again.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 13:36pm


I think I know what you are referring to gitar, but I need to go through the vinyl collection and half of it is in storage. I will check when I can.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 16:22pm


Here is an under-rated musician, songwriter, engineer and producer - Rick Derringer. I think he started in the 60's with the McCoys and Hang on Sloopy to the work he did with Edgar Winter and then his solo work including RnR Hootchie Coo which was one of my favorites songs to do back when I was playing.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 17:17pm


Dameon...gotta agree with you on Rick Derringer...great arranger AND a monster player!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 17:48pm


Odd to see who is and not inducted--the Iron Butterfly were huge, they along with the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, and Cream made Albums the focus rather than just "hit singles" they also had more than one song on the radio. Their 2nd album sold at an amazing high level for years, and it was thanks to them that much of what was later listened to had an audience. Their music was rich, fun and intense.

Posted by Jeff Platt on Tuesday, 08.19.08 @ 02:30am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fObC7TjZ8R0

This group was one of the TRUE precursors to Heavy Metal...all you have to do is listen (Dameon...you're gonna remember this for sure). Not saying they're HOF material (they are more so than another certain group being constantly brought up, though), but they and a few other groups (see Deep Purple) started adding that harder edge to the psychedelic era. Having been a teen during that time, you could feel the musical landscape starting to change (as it had already done a few times before) to something that was more than "peace & love".

Now, you can either listen to someone beat their chest about it (who, quite frankly, wasn't there), or you can just listen and draw your own conclusions...we all know what "heavy metal" is now, but where did it REALLY come from?

Posted by gitarzan on Saturday, 09.20.08 @ 07:48am


They were one of the first heavy groups on a large scale.
Influenced many who followed.
Had an entire catagory created for them to accomadate their huge sales figures for the "In-A-Gadda-Vida" album sales which created the platinum catagory.

Posted by Cal on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 12:55pm


Johnny Taylor's "Disco Lady" is the first Platinum® single. The first Platinum™ album certified by the RIAA® was The Eagles' Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975.

www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=historyx

Posted by classicrocker on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 13:55pm


I read this from their website biography.

In July of 1968, Iron Butterfly released the monumental LP, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, featuring the 17:05 minute side-long track that shook the entire music industry with its phenomenal reception. 'Vida outsold every record in the history of recorded music within the first year of its release (over eight million copies sold) and therefore outgrew and outsold the standard of the music industry's "Gold Album" award. For this achievement, Iron Butterfly was subsequently awarded: The Industry's Very First "Platinum Album"! This historic award was created and presented by then-president of ATCO Records Ahmet Ertegun, who went on to become the current CEO of the WEA Group. Most recently, "Vida" received the Multi-Platinum award.

Posted by Cal on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 14:04pm


Here is an under-rated musician, songwriter, engineer and producer - Rick Derringer. I think he started in the 60's with the McCoys and Hang on Sloopy to the work he did with Edgar Winter and then his solo work including RnR Hootchie Coo which was one of my favorites songs to do back when I was playing.
Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 17:17pm

Good call Daemon,Yes Derringer then wen onto play produce Johnny /Edgar Winter.
His session credits are a who's who of rock.
Steely Dan.
One rumor is Rikki Don't Lose That Number was writtren about him as they offerd him to join the band.
He declined but the title Derringer himself confirmed was about him.
There's also another story what the song is about.

Posted by Cal on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 14:10pm


I never heard that Cal. That is interesting. What I find ridiculous is that Derringer is so far off the radar that his contributions to music will always be overlooked.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 14:52pm


I never heard that Cal. That is interesting.
Posted by Dameon

When I had first heard the Steely/Rikki/Derringer connection I was somewhat taken aback.
But as long time Derringer fan I became intrigued.
I ran into an online interview with Derringer and he addressed it.
If you listen to the lyrics of Rikki they do make sense that he shouldn't lose their (Steely Dans)number and so forth.

There's also there's also the other version of the songs meaning in which Donald Fagen had been involved with his professors wife and it's about her.
That's why I like Steely Dan's lyrics,they're very obliquie at times.
Great slide guitar solo by Derringer in Steely's Show Biz Kids.

Posted by Cal on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 17:40pm


One of my favorite bands! They revolutionized the music!

Posted by Child in Time 27 on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 04:08am


Ib deserves it. They where way hot before inna da garden. I recorded a few MP3 many years ago and the Theme Song and Possession made it. I actually listened to the Ball album a lot way back.

Posted by gar on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 00:49am


As for Iron Butterfly, I just purchased their greatest hits CD (21 songs) & I can state for the record that they should not be inducted.

Just not enough great music there.

Was surprised (a little) that Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida was their most 'heavy metal' type song, by far. Most of their other stuff I would call psycodelic pop (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 06:25am


Hey, Paul...I'm thinking that "Iron Butterfly Theme" was kinda heading in that direction, too. Of course, at the time they probably weren't really trying to create anything, which is what is beautiful about music...being innovative and not knowing it.

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 07:13am


I can't really say whether or not Iron Butterfly should be recognized as a Hall of Fame band because I have only heard Inna Gadda Da Vida (In The Garden Of Eden) great riff but thats about all.

But I will say that out of Iron Butterfly (by the way excuse my ignorance but is the name a take on Led Zeppelin?)came an incredible band that recorded a phenomenal album of progressive hard rock music called Captain Beyond. The group was made up of Larry (Rhino) Reinhardt on guitar and Lee Dorman on bass from Iron Butterfly, Rod Evans from Deep Purple on vocals and Bobby Caldwell (talk about an underated drummer) from Johnny Winter on drums.

It debuted in 1972 and was dedicated to the late great Duanne Allman. It was the only album released by the original line-up and it is AWESOME! If you like hard rocking sophisticated music this is a must listen.

"Dancing madly backwards, dancing on a sea of air"
Captain Beyond

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 09:00am


As soon as I posed the question did Led Zeppelin influence the name Iron Butterfly I realized Iron Butterfly debuted 1968 and Led Zeppelin in 1969. Maybe the name Iron Butterfly influenced the name Led Zeppelin. Maybe the urban legend that it was said that "A group consisting of Keith Moon, John Entwistle, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page would go over like a Lead Zeppelin" (spelling it Led Zeppelin came later) The boys in Zeppelin were notorious for borrowing (for lack of a better term) things from other poeple.

Just a theory mind you, but think about it.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 09:25am


SpaceTrucker...wassup??? I also used to think that In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida meant "In The Garden of Eden" right up until I heard lead singer/keyboardist/songwriter Doug Engel being asked about it on VH-1. His response was "It Ddesn't mean anything!!" He came up with a melody, and was trying to put words to it, while mumbling some jibberish..."In-A Gadda-..." his bandmate replied "Hey man, that sounded really cool, man", or something along those lines, so he used it. It's kinda like Greg Kihn's "Break-Up Song", when his bandmates told him to leave in the "Ah Ah Ah uh uh AH Ah Ah" instead of coming up with words...

You've just been trivialized!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 03.20.09 @ 18:57pm


Listen to "Slower Than Guns" from the IB album Metamorphosis. This must be one of the first songs with an environmental consciousness recorded by anybody, in any realm of music,and should counter the notion that IB isn't worthy of consideration for the HOF.

Posted by m. Miller on Sunday, 04.5.09 @ 16:00pm


I personally feel Iron Butterfly are a pretty underrated band. I have listened to some of thier other songs besides "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" and some of them are really good. Some of the heaviest acid rock of the time was made by them. "Unconscious Power" is one of the greatest guitar riffs that most people have not heard. "Easy Rider(Let the Wind Pay the Way)" is a song that should be right up thier with "Life in the Fast Lanes" and "Highway Star" as one of the best gas-burning songs in rock. "Filled With Fear" was one of thier harder songs espeically live and they had a lot of other fantastic songs. And let's not forgot that they did have 4 albums that hit the top 20 on the charts. Whether or not they were one of the first metal bands is definately still up for debate(personally I think that honor goes to Steppenwolf), but like Blue Cheer and some of the other late acid rock and early hard rock bands they did have a huge influence on the "Stoner rock/Stoner metal" scene that would develop many years later. Whether they deserve to be in or not is also debatable, yet since I am a bias fan, I will say yes.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 05.3.09 @ 17:40pm


Dude Man...don't forget "Iron Butterfly Theme". You can really identify with it as a precursor to metal...IMO.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.3.09 @ 17:55pm


The "Iron Butterfly Theme" is one of my favorite intrumentals, but I didn't want my post to be too long so I didn't put it on. Great song and definately had a lot to do with the developing heavy metal genre. I actually saw it on a list of the 100 Greatest underrated rock songs on this site http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_undersongs.html. Sorry, I don't know how to set up a link, so you have to type it yourself. It's an ok list though, only wish some Budgie songs made it.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 05.3.09 @ 19:27pm


I'm on the fence here. Inagaddadavida was a revolutionary song. But the more I listen to it, the more I feel it's just overrated.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 05.29.09 @ 19:09pm


I disagree Philip. "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" has that classic acid rock/early heavy metal riff to it and makes all these little twists and turns along the the trip to the end. I actually feel Iron Butterfly have some other good songs than just that one.

I personally hate it when bands are called one-hit wonders, when I enjoy some of thier other songs. It's similar to the Devo fans liking more of thier material than "Whip It". They did have a wide variety of material too. They have some very poppy psychedelic rock songs like "Most Anything That You Want" and "Possession". Some songs were really heavy for thier time like "Iron Butterfly Theme" and "Are You Happy?". Other epic long songs like "Butterfly Bleu". And some solid other riffs like in "Unconscious Power". My personal favorite Iron Butterfly song might be "Fields of Sun" off the Heavy album.

Also, I think that they could have had a longer career if one simple thing did not happen: If they weren't stuck at the airport for Woodstock. It could have made them a more important in rock and roll history than what they are remembered for. Well, can't change the past I suppose.

In my opinion they are a very underrated band and pivotal in late acid rock and early heavy metal. Are they worthy? Like I said before it's debatalbe. They did have several albums to hit top 20 on the charts. Does the fact most people only know them for one song matter(even though I like them for more) or the fact that they were one of the first hard rock groups to get a good amount of airplay and according to allmusic guide influence bands like Deep Purple and Queens of the Stone Age matter? I'm biased, so it's hard for me to answer that.

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 05.29.09 @ 22:19pm


I'm not denying the historical significance of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida," but from a musicianship point-of-view, I don't feel it's that great of a song. Maybe I've just committed self-inflicted overkill with it, but listening to the entire 17 minute version gets very boring and tedious. By the time I get to the instrumental break, I'm ready to skip to the next track.

Again, maybe it's just because I've listened to it too many times in too little time lately, but I'm sick of that song. And as crazy as it sounds, I'm not a huge fan of acid rock either. Not even big on the Jimi Hendrix Experience.

And I know that Iron Butterfly wasn't a one-hit wonder, but YOU go on Limewire, enter Artist search "Iron Butterfly" and see how long it takes/how many times you have to redo the search before you get a song BESIDES "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida."

Posted by Philip on Friday, 05.29.09 @ 23:01pm


There was a point in when people got sick of the excess of acid rock. People began to get tried of pot-headed, dirty, peace loving hippies and couldn't listen to "Incense and Peppermints" for more than a couple of minutes before wanting to slam thier heads against a wall. Same thing happened with hair metal and grunge. Loved at first,but then we get sick of it and want something new.

Still the accomplishments of some of those bands can't be denied like Cream, Jefferson Airplane, and the Jimi Hendrix Experience. As far as Jimi goes himself, he's definately overrated as far as his guitar playing and had trouble keeping that guitar tuned, but still a great player. He wasn't a good singer at all, but the songs themselves made up for that.

It's true that Iron Butterfly will always be remembered as the, "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" band, but if you look through thier albums you might find some other good songs. MC5 fans don't see them as just the "Kick Out the Jams" band I'm sure.

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 09:29am


Dude Man,

One too many acid trips or what? Your statement about Jimi Hendrix makes no sense what so ever. Are you fishing for reaction or are your serious? Hendrix is overrated as a guitar player? That statement makes you lose credibility like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has lost all credibility.

When some of the all time greats saw Hendrix play (Clapton, McCartney) they were blown away and had never seen anyone play the guitar like he did.
he reinvented the instrument. I think your personal dislike for Hendrix and his music has clouded your mind.

You said his guitar playing was overrated and he couldn't sing but the songs made up for that. Well my friend Hendrix played guitar and sang on every song, so if his guitar playing was average and he couldn't sing than what part of the song did you like the bass and drums?

If you don't like Jimi Hendrix and his music that's one thing but he is definitely not overrated.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 12:58pm


No, you're taking what I said the wrong way. He is still in my top 10 personal favorite guitar players list, but not number one. Every magazine or site lists him as number, but I think he should be just a little lower than that. I love Jimi's music too. "Purple Haze", "Foxey Lady", "Hey Joe", and "Fire" are some of my favorite songs. Here's a list of my personal favorite guitar players:
1. Ritchie Blackmore(Deep Purple, Rainbow)
2. Eddie Van Halen
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. Eric Clapton(Cream, the Yardbirds, Blues Breakers, Derek and The Dominoes, solo, and everything else)
5. Chuck Berry
6. Jimmy Page(The Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin)
7. George Harrison(The Beatles)
8. Keith Richards(The Rolling Stones)
9. Joe Walsh(The Eagles, James Gang, solo)
10. Joe Perry(Aerosmith)
11. Tony Iommi(Black Sabbath)
12. Angus Young(AC/DC)
13. Randy Rhoads(early Quiet Riot, Ozzy Osbourne)
14. Slash(GNR, Velvet Revolver)
15. Carlos Santana
16. David Gilmour(Pink Floyd)
17. Brian May(Queen)
18. Kirk Hammett(Metallica)
19. John Fogerty(CCR)
20. Tony Bourge(Budgie)

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 13:49pm


"There was a point in when people got sick of the excess of acid rock. People began to get tried of pot-headed, dirty, peace loving hippies and couldn't listen to "Incense and Peppermints" for more than a couple of minutes before wanting to slam thier heads against a wall. Same thing happened with hair metal and grunge. Loved at first,but then we get sick of it and want something new."--Dude Man

Except, that's not quite what I'm talking about. There are songs that I've put on repeat and have been able to listen to for over a half hour, and STILL not be sick of them: CCR's "Hey Tonight," Elton John's "Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny)", Timi Yuro's "Why Not Now," Ringo's cover of "Sure To Fall (In Love With You)", Duane Eddy's "Play Me Like You Play Your Guitar," the Velvet Underground's "Rock And Roll," Frank Zappa's "Valley Girl," the Beatles' "Real Love"... etc. Eventually, I get sick of hearing them, but the next time I hear them, they still sound good. Even with the Small Faces, I'm finding I like their stuff more each time (with some exceptions)... but "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"... I'm just not enjoying it as much anymore. I'm just feeling it's not such a wonderful song after all.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 14:15pm


Well, I've said this before and I'll say it again. Rock music is subjective. What becomes annoying to someone might genius to another person. Also, I wouldn't classify all those artist you have mentioned as acid rock. Some of those artists were in the '60s, but not acid rock. CCR weren't even psychedelic.

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 14:25pm


No, I wasn't calling any of them acid rock. My point was those were songs that floored me when I first heard them, and still did after listening to them non-stop for over a half hour (or longer)

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida floored me when I first heard it. But listening to it once or so a day for awhile... it just doesn't impress me all that much anymore.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 14:47pm


Dude Man, CCR aren't psychedelic? Apparasntly, you've never listened to their first album, or even the full version of Suzie Q.

Posted by Jonny on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 14:55pm


If you look up CCR on wikipedia, all music guide, or any other major site on music you will not see them listed as psychedelic.

Also, I want to be very clear on the Jimi thing. I love Jimi's music and he is one of my favorite guitar players of all time. When I said overrated I just meant only a very little bit. As far as the singing thing he didn't have the best vocal range, but it was perfect for his music like Ozzy Osbourne.

Also, Philip if you don't like "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" that's fine. Most people still like it. People voted it as the 24th greatest hard rock song out of a list on VH1. Also, the song has been covered by Blind Guardian, parodied by Frank Zappa as "In-a-Gadda-Stravinsky", appeared on Home Impovement and the Simpsons, and been sampled various times.

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 15:27pm


Like I said, I fully recognize its significance... it's just lost its magic that it once held for me.

Also, don't go to allmusic or anything else to define an artist. CCR wasn't a psychedelic band, but they DID dabble with it in the early days. As mrxyz would say, "All you need is ears."

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 15:34pm


I didn't say CCR never experimented with psychedelic music and they did perform at Woodstock, but for the most part of thier career they were far from it in thier classic roots of rock. I'm sure they might have done a few numbers from that genre, yet overall you can't really classify them on just those few songs. Also, I don't always listen to critic sites. I only use them time to time to make a few points that I agree on. Allmusic has actually put down some albums I enjoy very much.

And like I said Philip it's cool if the song doesn't still give any enjoyment. As long as you realize that it did have impact. I still feel that they have some other good songs including that one.

Posted by Dude Man on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 16:18pm


ST...speaking of Hendrix, if someone held a gun to my head and said "Make a top 10 greatest guitarists" list, Hendrix wouldn't be on it. I'm not saying he wasn't a great player, but his core playing was pretty straightforward 12-bar blues. Now, if someone asked me to make a top 10 "greatest rock innovators", his name would have to be pretty close to the top. I don't think he re-invented the way it was played, but his experimenting was unmatched.

Funny thing about it was, he did a lot of those things because it "sounded cool"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 16:25pm


I know this is an Iron Butterfly thread but Dude Man started the Hendrix thing on here.

Gitarzan,

No guns will be necessary, it's only rock and roll! LOL:)

This is where the whole thing gets fuzzy. Is your opinion about Hendrix based on personal taste or an objective opinion? If he was a top ten innovator and that innovation was on the guitar then wouldn't he be a top ten guitarists? Lots of great guitar players played 12-bar blues but his innovation and passionate playing put him at or near the top, I mean the guy blew away Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck when they saw him play and those guys played pretty good 12-bar blues themselves.

Hendrix was special there's no arguing that. Where you want to put him on a list is cool. I just had to respond to Dude Man's statement that he was overrated, I just couldn't let that go without a comment of my own.

Hendrix will always be known as one of the greats of all-time. Where he ends up on a list is subjective. But he is not and will never be overrated. That term just doesn't belong in the same sentence with Jimi Hendrix.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 19:31pm


ST...No problem, man!! I've played for over 40 years, and do understand what he was playing pretty well...it's just what he did with it which makes the innovation override the sheer playing. As with a lot of great players, I'd always wonder where he'd come up with a riff, even if it were fairly simple. His effects and innovation in the studio are what had everyone wondering what heck was doing. You knew it was the blues, but what was all the other "stuff" you were hearing...?

Today, I still enjoy playing his stuff, and when I add the effects, it still makes me wonder what made him inclined to do the stuff he did.

As a musician and innovator, he was a pretty amazing cat...although there's a lot of players who can outplay him, if you play rock guitar at all, you pretty much have to go through the "Jimi Hendrix portal"...the very definition of innovation and influence...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 19:43pm


Here's one of Iron Butterfly's heavier songs called "Are you Happy?" off thier live album. The lyrics might be far from early metal, but the music is really hard for its time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mP4xfqHVu18

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 05.31.09 @ 12:23pm


Today, I still enjoy playing his stuff, and when I add the effects, it still makes me wonder what made him inclined to do the stuff he did.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.30.09 @ 19:43pm
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Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 05.31.09 @ 16:28pm


Ah, yes...I forgot...LMAO!!!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.31.09 @ 17:01pm


I don't know how acurate this source is, but it claims that Rush started out playing Iron Butterfly covers.

http://www.2112.net/xanadu/band.htm

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 06.12.09 @ 18:32pm


I've been looking up things too much on wikipedia.

I said before that Blue Cheer were the first metal band, but now I'm not sure. Allmusic says that Blue Cheer formed in 1967 and that Iron Butterfly formed in 1966. Allmusic also says that Vincebus Eruptum was released in January 1968, but they don't give the specific day of the month it was released or when the recording started. Iron Butterfly's Heavy album they say was released in 1968 and they don't give a month and the specific day of that month, but they do say the recording began in October 1967.

If anyone can help me find the specific release and recording dates of these two albums it would be most helpful.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 07.27.09 @ 20:57pm


http://www.drumheadmag.com/web/feature.php?id=14

Here's an interesting article I found. IB's drummer, Ron Bushy, said that they were scheduled to play Woodstock, but the helicopter never showed up. It's kind of sad because I think they might have had a career longer than 17 minutes if they would have played the festival.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 08.17.09 @ 17:14pm


A lot of players who could outplay Hendrix? Jimi Hendrix? Can you give me one name besdies God (not Eric Clapton is God either)who could outplay Hendrix? Clapton said he couldn't. Townsend said he couldn't. The closest one I know of would be Stevie Ray and guess what....yep he said he couldn't. Are all these all time greats selling themselves short or does Gitarzan know something they done? Oh take Neil Young and Steven Stiles off the list too. They said they couldn't either.

Gitarzan...talk about writing something before reading it gesh......

Posted by Purple Haze on Friday, 08.21.09 @ 14:37pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ukr36Qu1Uo&feature=related

I know that a Hendrix conversation is going to pop up again, but since we're back on the Iron Butterfly page I felt like posting The "Iron Butterfly Theme" again because I noticed Gitarzan's video was taken off due to copyrights. Let's hope copyrights don't take this away.

Posted by Dude Man on Friday, 08.21.09 @ 15:25pm


I've said it once and I'll say it again...if we're talking about pure playing ability, Hendrix isn't even CLOSE to being the "best ever"!! He was a pretty basic blues player...period!! Now, if we're going to talk about the "other things" he did in the studio...different story completely. THAT'S where people were blown away!! No one was more innovative or influential in those regards.

I don't know why Hendrix' name always pops up first in general rock guitar conversations...there are so many unique, mind-boggling players out there. I hold Hendrix in high regard, but if someone asks me if his stuff is necessarily hard to play, I tell them "No" (and I've been covering his stuff for parts of five decades), but the hard part was actually coming up with it! I constantly wonder what made a lot of these great players come up with the stuff that they do (bad acid trips, bad dreams, totally by mistake, etc...).

So there, I even went back over it, I said it, and I certainly don't apologize for it. Do the great players sell themselves short while describing others, in public I would say probably, but behind closed doors...not so sure!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.21.09 @ 17:01pm


Another thing...Stevie Ray also said that his playing couldn't hold a torch to his older brother Jimmie's...Hmmmmm???

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.21.09 @ 17:09pm


One of their members joined some cult, went underground and still has not been found. It's been over 30 years.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.5.11 @ 17:49pm


Influence: Iron Butterfly did have a limited influence on metal. 10
Innovation: One of the first bands to come close to the metal sound 15
Critical respect: Critics would rather pretend Iron butterfly never existed.
Sales: In A Gadda Da Vida has sold 18 million copies. 15

40, not worthy.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.29.11 @ 14:28pm


In A Gadda Da Vida (full length) may just be one of the best songs of the 60's.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 11.4.12 @ 13:03pm


RIP Lee Dorman
Gosh another one on their way .I wonder what it all means ?

Posted by Happy on Saturday, 12.22.12 @ 00:26am


IRON BUTTERFLY SHOULD GET INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THEY HAD A UNIQUE SOUND & WERE INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL.I STILL ENJOY THEIR MUSIC. IT COULD BE A GENERATIONAL THING IN MY TASTES BUT IF MADONNA CAN GET IN...............

Posted by DICKIB on Thursday, 08.28.14 @ 14:16pm


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