Duane Eddy

Rock & Roll Hall of Famer

Category: Performer

Inducted in: 1994

Inducted by: Mick Jones

Nominated in: 1986   1987   1988   1989   1990   1991   1992   1994

First Eligible: 1986 Ceremony


Inducted into Rock Hall Revisited in 1991 (ranked #223) .


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Duane Eddy
before Surf Music there was and is Duane Eddy the true father of Surf Guitar..
What a player..!!! he and drummer Sandy Nelson are the heart and soul of Surf sounds and true plain good rock. Most to many guitar and drummer copy them e,ven if they don't know it! Which many have not got a clue...
Sandy Nelson should be in the Hall what a drummer

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 14:04pm


mrxyz...Duane Eddy really wasn't a "surf" guitar player. He had a sound that was uniquely his own. Back in the day, if someone said "twangy" guitar, you automatically thought of Duane Eddy.

The true father of "surf" guitar would have to be Dick Dale...without a doubt!

Posted by Guitarzan on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 14:09pm


Dick Dale got his sound idea from Duane and Sandy Nelson... Dick is "King" becauce Hollywood sold the idea .. Heck the Surfaris out sold and played Dick in the day.. and they were 15-16 years old .. I love Dick but "Father" he is not... "King" he is.. The "Godfather" is Jim Fuller lead guitar of the Surfaris ,so say the surf world not Hollywood .. It is to bad the roots of Sandy and Duane are white washed with the hype.. They never said it was Surf agreed, but that is where most of it came from.. ...I think Dick is great..!!!! He being in the Hall is cool... but the "father of surf" No, the hype of "Surf King" YES..

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 15:07pm


You know, I never really perceived Eddy to be surf in any real way. Maybe Eddy had stuff that sounded vaguely like surf music, but much of it fell into the rockabilly instrumental mode. I always picture Eddy alongside the Champs "Tequila" or the Bill Black Combo. When it comes to te surf sound, Dale, the Surfaris, even the early Beach Boys seem to be more in tune here.

There's a lot of stuff out there that has an undercurrent of surf w/out actually being considered such. Link Wray's "Jack the Ripper" in 61 has a surf feel in the rhythm, but when he unleashes on the solos you'd never say it had anything to do w/surf. Link being THE master instumentalist of the period, natch'.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 04:47am


Cheesecrop ..I never said Duane was surf.. I said it is where surf got its roots ...I mean what is surf really... ? It is a name ..Peter Gun is surfish.. and Yes Jack the Ripper is Surfish, Tequila was done by many surf bands but it is latin.. that is my point Dick is not the "Father of Surf"... The Belairs were the first recorded band to call themself a "surf band" in 1961..If that what makes you the "Father".. if it doesn't then folks like Wray, Eddy, Nelson .. would be the "father of surf" Not Dick !!... He did not call it surf frist nor did he even have any national nor global hit...He is the "King" becauce on his Captial Record it says so...As in most KINGS it is self imposed ,so yeah, he be "KING" LOL
Un like Jim Fuller of the Surfaris who many in the Surf world now call him "Godfather"..I like Dicks music well some of it, but he is no Duane Eddy....!!

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 08:57am


Besides being a player since the mid 60's, One of my passions is to study guitar history, which I've been doing for a while, so let's see if I can do this Reader's Digest-style;

People like Duane Eddy and Link Wray (I guess you could throw Santo & Johnny ("Sleepwalker") into the mix) proved you could be successful with instrumentals. Dick Dale is widely credited for originating "Surf Music" in about 1957. His song "Let's Go Trippin'" in 1961, I think was pretty much the first surf-rock hit. He played a Fender Stratocaster (still does), plays with the strings upside down (ala Albert King), and plays with VERY heavy strings (his high "E" string is a .016...yeow!!!!). He plays with very high reverb and he tries to recreate ocean sounds with his music. He was also one of the first to use 100 watt amps (which will blow your face off). His amps were primarily Fenders. As far as drummers go, the earliest "surf" drummer influence was probably Gene Krupa.

Duane Eddy played a hollow-body Gretsch, I believe. Now, as far as Dick Dale being "no Duane Eddy", I guess that's accurate because I can't imagine two styles of playing being more different...Duane Eddy was playing almost what could be enterpreted as rockabilly, While Dick Dale was trying to recreate the sound of the ocean through his guitar.

Both are great and influential players, but I think it's safe to say one had directly very little to do with the other's success. In my book, "Wipeout" isn't even the ultimate surf song...that would be "Pipeline" by the Chantays. It captures the surfsound more effectively. "Wipeout" just had more commercial success.

That's the way I've seen things over the years...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 09:48am


Besides being a player since the mid 60's, One of my passions is to study guitar history, which I've been doing for a while, so let's see if I can do this Reader's Digest-style;

People like Duane Eddy and Link Wray (I guess you could throw Santo & Johnny ("Sleepwalker") into the mix) proved you could be successful with instrumentals. Dick Dale is widely credited for originating "Surf Music" in about 1957. His song "Let's Go Trippin'" in 1961, I think was pretty much the first surf-rock hit. He played a Fender Stratocaster (still does), plays with the strings upside down (ala Albert King), and plays with VERY heavy strings (his high "E" string is a .016...yeow!!!!). He plays with very high reverb and he tries to recreate ocean sounds with his music. He was also one of the first to use 100 watt amps (which will blow your face off). His amps were primarily Fenders. As far as drummers go, the earliest "surf" drummer influence was probably Gene Krupa.

Duane Eddy played a hollow-body Gretsch, I believe. Now, as far as Dick Dale being "no Duane Eddy", I guess that's accurate because I can't imagine two styles of playing being more different...Duane Eddy was playing almost what could be enterpreted as rockabilly, While Dick Dale was trying to recreate the sound of the ocean through his guitar.

Both are great and influential players, but I think it's safe to say one had directly very little to do with the other's success. In my book, "Wipeout" isn't even the ultimate surf song...that would be "Pipeline" by the Chantays. It captures the surfsound more effectively. "Wipeout" just had more commercial success.

That's the way I've seen things over the years...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 09:48am


Another little overlooked fact about Dick Dale is that he in fact WAS a surfer (the only member of the Beach Boys who knew his way around water was Dennis Wilson), but please don't draw any conclusions about him from those HORRID "beach" movies (which had to be some of the WORST music ever recorded)! The only thing I can gather from that is he must've needed a paycheck...a lot of that going around then, too.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:13am


Gitarzan
Mr Moto by the Belairs came out first.. "Lets go Trippen" came out a few months latter.. The type of guitar mean nothing as a matter of fact Dick played a hollow body before his strat it is hung up at the Surf Museum in Huntington Beach..
The Surfaris were the First Surf Band to have all Fenders on their front Album Cover,, Gene Krupa was Dicks idol, He was a swing and jazz drummer.. Unlike Nelson a top studio rock drummer..
Duane is twangy reverb .. AKA SURF... So was Nelsons stuff . The First recorded Staccato was the Chanteys "Pipeline".. not Dick... I like Pipeline a true classic to bad many think the Ventures wrote it..lol
As far as selling surf in the 60's : The Beach Boys are #1 then Jan and Dean and Surfaris... Not Dick Dale not even close .. Sorry it is what it is... Dick is todays wish it was HYPE ..Not saying he is not a great guitar player ..The Surfaris Beach Boys the Chanteys out played him in the 60's and the are about 8-10 years younger than Dick ..Heck they were in their teens and Dick was in his 20's .. ..It was the Surfaris that had kicken lead guitar and great drum action ..Dick was more Duane Eddy or Belairs and not Krupa in any form of beat...Long Live the King..
Surfs UP!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:18am


Yeah he surf so did the Chanteys ,the Surfaris and the Belairs.. so did Marshal Dillon {James Arness}Whats your point.?LOL

Posted by Mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:24am


Let's see, so you're saying any lead guitar of that era played with reverb was "surf" music? I guess that means Scotty Moore was a "surf" guitarist, too! Reverb is just a by-product not exclusively used in surf music and had been around just a hair longer. Plus, the type of guitar used DOES make a world of difference, which most players do know, and I'm not going to write a book explaining the specifics, other than to say feedback is a real pain with hollow-bodies at high amplification.

No point made at all about being a surfer. As a matter of fact, one of the successful groups of that subgenre, the Astronauts, are from my neck of the woods...Boulder, CO.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:44am


mrxyz: My error in regards to interpretation.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:48am


Yeah the Astronauts were great they to out played and out sold Dick...That's my point
Yeah lot of reverb out there ................. Dick is mainly Instrumentals so ya can't even give him credit for reverb sound I agree.. That is where he got his sound from Duane, Nelson etc.. He is not what I call a singer.. The Astronuats could sing I love their "Baby Please don't Go" So did the Surfaris and the BEACH BOYS, JAN and DEAN.. They all out sold and played Dick Dale in the 60's He is great and is the true KING.. not the Father. or Godfather
You in Hollywood HYPE DENIAL..
I got to go surfing in the water TTL
SURFS UP!!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 10:56am


I guess when it comes down to it, it's hard to say who did what first. It's all a step-child of good ol' rock & roll anyway. We can just dub Les Paul "The Father Of All Things Rock Guitar", and leave it at that.

I don't know that Dale was after commercial success so much, given the fact he was willing to walk away from it for a while because of health problems, and those "gawd-awful" movies didn't do a thing for his reputation!!! I will admit that "Pipeline" was the first song I heard with that much staccoto...very cool stuff!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 11:18am


Gitarzan Yeah it is all just rock and roll I don't mind a person writting a book it is re writting for their own gain,,,lol
To me the best guitars for surf bands are
Dale
Fuller
Jardine
Carl wilson
Spikard
Paul Johnston


Best surf drums Ron Wilson
Dennis Wilson
Hal Blain...
Since Nelson is not surf lol
Do you trust guys that changed their real name just for Fame..?
As far as Dales Movies, to me.. that was his peak in those years,, .. I think all of the above deserve equal credit.. I am sure others also ..! Yes he is the King .. Surfs Up


Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 17:44pm


I don't know that Dale was after commercial success so much, given the fact he was willing to walk away from it for a while because of health problems, and those "gawd-awful" movies didn't do a thing for his reputation!!! I will admit that "Pipeline" was the first song I heard with that much staccoto...very cool stuff!

As far as he did not want commercial success I wonder why it was Dick Dale and the Deltones Not The Deltones...?I wonder why he had his own lable and made records ? Was that so he would not have success .. ?
Dick best and biggest break was the movies in my opinion that and the Beach Boys doing "Lets go Trippin" If it had not been for that it could of been Dick Who....? Having said that.. it just takes 1 good break and he had oodles .. I think he and all musicians should get what they can.. Show bizs is "what have ya done lately for me..." Maybe he walked a way was the same other surf bands did "It Ain't selling" ...

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 20:33pm


Since the discussion in the 2009 has pretty much bled over to here, I'll crossover to this discussion.

First off, there were three major ways to get reverb. The kind that was used in surf music, if I remember correctly, involved a spring on the microphone. That's what gave it its "wet" sound. That's not how Duane Eddy got his reverb sound. You can just hear it in his songs. There's twang, but it is NOT a wet twang. So I say to you, mrxyz, ALL YA NEED IS EARS!

And I've heard Sandy Nelson's stuff, too. How is that surf? It's percussive instrumentals. It's surf music as much as Preston Epps' "Bongo Rock."

The Belairs may have been first, but it needs some HYPE to last for any real length of time. Surf music is still being made today, though it's much much more of a niche market now. Dick Dale gave surf music wheels... err... fins.

And Gitarzan...if you want stoccato, don't forget "Penetration" from the Pyramids. The notes coming from that guitar weren't just stoccato, they were BRITTLE!

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 22:27pm


Totally forgot about the Pyramids, Philip...you're absolutely right!!! Thanks for the reminder. I've been too busy getting lip service for liking Robin Trower by one of his FANS!!! There's a new one for ya!!! Give me strength...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 22:33pm


Even on a Robin Trower thread, you may hope for something to find, but you'll see no place to unwind. lol

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 22:50pm


Phil and fans of Surf
Wave back then Fender was tube reverb. The spring came in later mid late 60's... Magnatone was tube also {I think} .. Not sure what amp Duane used or Nelson's Guitar players used .. All for I know when recording they used a hall way or bath room with a mike,,,Most of them did...for the Reverb sound .. Maybe a little slap tape.. .. for the delay..
One of you said Hollow body give feed back true but
When I hear Duane's Gretsch hollow body.. I don't hear and feed back I hear twang and reverb AKA Surf.. ,,,LOL It is how ya play it..
What ever you want to hear don't let me change your ears...
I bet ya a wooden nickel that you can't tell on most recordings if it was a Fender Rick Gretsch or Gibson.. Heck the Beach Boys used Ricks on stage and at recordings ..Ventures Mosrites..The wreaking crew often used Les Pauls and ES on many of the Surf Recording {Humbucks no buzzz from the amp,,, }
.." ..
Rather than being a talking head ya may want to hear what ya said .. Any who ,the music biz is hype but music is to enjoy...
Enjoy the dream... Or as Lennon said "the dream is over what can I say.Yes" "All ya need is Ears.".
World Peace ,love and understanding through music/MRXYZ


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Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 23:30pm


xyz, you're right about one thing... I'm not a guitar afficionado, I don't play guitar, so I can't tell the difference between types of guitars. I can however identify the distinctive guitar sounds and know if it's Berry, Eddy, Rivers, Beatles, CCR, Stones, U2, etc. if I'm hearing.

Reverb is not synonymous with surf. Seriously, do you think Phil Collins' "In The Air Tonight" is surf? Because that's got all the reverb you can handle and thensome. Or Jan And Dean's "Baby Talk," which predates their California-scene music? No. The truth of the matter is, almost all music uses reverb of SOME kind. Most use only enough to give the songs a more three-dimensional sound, but not to sound full of echoes.

Or what about country music? That's full of twang! Must be surf right? Uh, no.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 23:42pm


Phil..
Never said Reverb is only sur.f I said Dick got his sound or lot of it fom Duane and sandy Nelson....
I also Said Dick did not have the first recorded surf Song on the air wave {Belairs]
I also said the Surfaris had bigger Hits
I also Said the Beach Boys had Bigger hits
I said Jan and Dean Had bigger Hits
I said Dick aks Capital record self proclaimed Dick as the "King" not the "Surf World" at first
I said the best surf guitar player were /are
Dick
Fuller
Jardine
Carl Wilson
Spikard..
Best Drummers
Ron Wilson
Dennis Wilson
Hal Blaine
Thinking of it his first Deltone drummer is Hot
I said the Venture were a copy band ..
I said The Chantays were the first to have staccato on Pipeline not Dick
All of the facts make me wonder why he is the King
Why the Ventures are in the HOF mainly for Surf ..? Heck most think they {Ventures}wrote "Pipeline" "Wipe Out" and Walk don't run.".etc.......
I said "Wipe Out" is the Surfers Anthem by most surfers and the best known solo drum of rock..
I said the Surf comunity named Fuller {Lead Guitar of the Surfars}Godfather
I said I don't think Dick is the "Father of Surf".. I would give it to Duane even tough he did not claim it...
I said Dick is great and is the "KING"
I may be wrong but That is whatI believe..


Surfs UP!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 00:09am


Ok. As I said earlier, it's hard to make out what you're trying to say because you don't pay attention to your grammar until we have to ask you to repeat your points.

To clear up one thing immediately, the Ventures aren't in just for surf. They're in because they were incredibly influential to generations of guitar players that followed. They were one of the first guitar-heavy rock bands (three guitars, no keys). They evolved into more than just a surf band.

The Beach Boys aren't the kings of surf because 1) they came after Dick Dale and 2) they were more of a "youth" band than surf. They did cars, school pride, joy of being young, etc. If you look at their well-known songs alone... you have only four surfing songs: "Surfin' Safari," "Surfin'," "Surfin' U.S.A." and "Catch A Wave." Well-known hits of theirs NOT about surfing: "I Get Around," "Dance, Dance, Dance," "Help Me, Rhonda," "Barbara Ann," "Do You Wanna Dance," "Little Deuce Coupe," "409," "Wouldn't It Be Nice," "Kokomo," "The Little Girl I Once Knew," "All Summer Long" (though it does mention surfing at one point, it's NOT a surf song), "Don't Worry Baby," "Wendy," "When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)"... to call the Beach Boys a surf band would be an insult to their body of work.

Jan And Dean aren't the kings of surf because their considered to be the Beach Boys' shadows.

The Surfaris are not the kings of surf because they came AFTER Dick Dale and were influenced by the groundwork that HE laid down, same of the Astronauts and Chantays. Dick Dale made their subsequent success possible (as did the Beach Boys, I would imagine, to a degree).

Hal Blaine is not a surf rock drummer. He may have done drumming on some surf rock songs, but he was just about every major American acts' records at some point or another during the 60's (just about, I said, doesn't mean EVERY SINGLE ONE of them).

Duane Eddy and Sandy Nelson are not the fathers of surf rock because they themselves were not actually surf rock. They may have influenced Dale, but because they were not surf rock, whatever Title of Honor you bestow upon them cannot reasonably contain "surf rock" in it.

Dick Dale, despite limited commercial success is the king of surf rock because he broke the national scene first (moreso than the Belairs), his output was more substantive, and because he's cited as the influence by and of more surf rock bands that followed than other surf band (with the possible exception of the Ventures, who as I said, evolved beyond just surf rock).

The Chantays were a one-hit wonder, and that's why they can't lay claim to king title (and I really don't hear much staccato in "Pipeline" either.

The Surfaris are remembered only for "Wipe Out" and not much else, even though they did have other hits. One anthem alone doesn't a king make.

Although, it appears, re-reading your message, that we actually agree more than we disagree. So surf on wit' yo' bad self! lol

Posted by Philip on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 01:00am


Lol Phil
that is funny ..!
Elvis is "King" and he came after Ike, Little Richard ,Buddy etc,,
Dick Had "Pepperment Twist"House of the Rising Sun" and other non surf songs.
Saying that Surf music is lesser than other music is a joke.. The Beach Boys are Surf there is no rules to where any type of music evolves..
Jazz has many sounds..Mose Alison is not John Coltrane..etc etc etc.....
The Surfaris are only remembed for "Wipe Out"? Yes by you,, How about Surfer Joe ..? not counting their other albums with .Boss Barracuda It Aint Me Babe" that sold and are still selling..They had a song "Karen" that went Gold in Japan is that surf..?
At the HOF live show the Ventures songs were all "SURF" types they played...Including Hawaii 5 O but who says that is not surf..? YOU..?
"Surf" is what ever a Surf Band wants to play for the most part..Where they take it is where they take it..!
The Beach Boys were and are a singing Surf Band..
The Surfaris, Dick Dale, Beach Boys, Jan and Dean Ventures ,Dick Dale and many other "SURF BANDS" all did more than " Surf song titles"
Fuller was in the Seeds and other Blues Bands
You Can be a good surf guitar or Drummer and play other types of music .They are Musicians" not mono music robots..


Wow "All ya need is Ears"
You have been Hollywood HYPED


Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 10:47am


Gee
I agree Duane Eddy could really be the "Father of Surf"
I am a fan of Dick, Surfaris, Beach Boys and Jan and Dean and Ventures
I think Dick is the "King" The Surfaris ,Beach Boys ,Jan and Dean and Ventures did out sell Dick in the surf 60's.. It was those bands that gave Surf a world reconition,.. Not Dick Dale.
Also I think the Beach Boys are a great Surf Band..{the best}
I still think of the Beach Boys as the best surf band, just took surf to a higher level "Good Vibrations " Surfs UP" "Don't go Near the Water"
"Kokomo" great stuff !!



Posted by dennis on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 12:25pm


I never said surf rock was lesser than other kinds of music. When I said that a band was more than just surf, it means simply that... they branched out and did stuff other than surf. It doesn't mean that surf is less than the other styles, just that it insults the whole body of work to file the band as a whole under the label "surf rock." It would be equally insulting to label the Four Seasons under "doo-wop" considering they expanded and did much more. Or the Bee Gees as a "disco" act considering they had already well established themselves as a musical force before they went disco. You see the point?

I would disagree that "surf" is whatever a surf band wants to play. If a surf band wants to branch out and do other things, they should be able to do it and have it be considered something other than "surf." It's called being artistically diverse. It doesn't mean that the surf music is of lesser merit, just that a band has chosen to expaned beyond one genre and do another.

And yeah, the Surfaris are remembered pretty much only for "Wipe Out"... when is the last time you heard any other song of theirs besides "Wipe Out" played on the radio? (For me, that would be "Surfer's Holiday" which was played on a syndicated show's annual Christmas/holdiay music show, and that was at least four or more years ago.) Or ask people on the street to name a song by the Surfaris other than "Wipe Out" (indeed, I doubt most could name the Surfaris as the band that recorded "Wipe Out"). No, aside from surf music enthusiasts and music enthusiasts in general like us, history as a whole has unkindly labeled the Surfaris as "that band that did 'Wipe Out'." Sorry if that's such a blow to your pride, but it's pretty much the truth.

Wow, all you need is brains.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 17:32pm


Philip...I asked a friend of mine who I jam with sometimes and is really "in the know" about popular music about "Wipe Out", and he said "Oh yeah, the Ventures!!" After I corrected him (LOL), We talked about "surf music", and he had some real unique observations. First, he said he thought the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, etc...were just pop/rock groups who talked about surfing and cars in their songs. He said "that "surf music" had a whole different feel to it" With him, the name that kept popping up was...Dick Dale!! He also brought up "Penetration", "Pipeline", and "Baja" by the "land-locked Astronauts", as he put it. We agreed that real "surf music" set a mood, and that the instrumentals portrayed that the best.

When I asked him about Duane Eddy being surf, he said "no way....And he'd probably be the first to tell you that!!!! Try Rockabilly...!!!"

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 18:38pm


Now that I can mostly agree with. Problem is, when you talk about mood, you're talking about something that is pretty subjective. To use another example, when I think of synth-pop of the 80's, I get a mood of dark, in the clubs, with colored strobes flashing around, with bad flock of seagulls haircuts... to others, they have brightly colored leg warmers, spiked mohawks that are dyed all sorts of bright colors... you get my point. What makes one person feel a scenario of surfing may not give that same feel to someone else... fortunately, with MOST surf rock, it does give that feel to the majority of people.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 18:50pm


Philip...that's exactly the point I was trying to make It's hard to describe, other than it just has that "feel" to it. I do believe you get it, my friend...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 18:54pm


Mom would be so proud of me. lol

Posted by Philip on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 18:56pm


Philip...I asked a friend of mine who I jam with sometimes and is really "in the know" about popular music about "Wipe Out", and he said "Oh yeah, the Ventures!!" After I corrected him (LOL), We talked about "surf music", and he had some real unique observations. First, he said he thought the Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, etc...were just pop/rock groups who talked about surfing and cars in their songs. He said "that "surf music" had a whole different feel to it" With him, the name that kept popping up was...Dick Dale!! He also brought up "Penetration", "Pipeline", and "Baja" by the "land-locked Astronauts", as he put it. We agreed that real "surf music" set a mood, and that the instrumentals portrayed that the best.

When I asked him about Duane Eddy being surf, he said "no way....And he'd probably be the first to tell you that!!!! Try Rockabilly...!!!"

well he sure is an expert on "Surf" being he thought the Ventures wrote WIPE OUT..lol
You are mono.. The Beach Boys are surf.. That is why they are called the Beach Boys..
They may not like it but when ya see their shows lot of Surf, Hawaiian shirts and stuff..I guess they were punk huh...?
Yeah the do other stuff but most of it is the new surf not Duane or Dick or Surfaris or Ventures ..All ya need is ears..!!!
Surfs up!!





Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 20:06pm


And yeah, the Surfaris are remembered pretty much only for "Wipe Out"... when is the last time you heard any other song of theirs besides "Wipe Out" played on the radio? (For me, that would be "Surfer's Holiday" which was played on a syndicated show's annual Christmas/holdiay music show, and that was at least four or more years ago.) Or ask people on the street to name a song by the Surfaris other than "Wipe Out" (indeed, I doubt most could name the Surfaris as the band that recorded "Wipe Out"). No, aside from surf music enthusiasts and music enthusiasts in general like us, history as a whole has unkindly labeled the Surfaris as "that band that did 'Wipe Out'." Sorry if that's such a blow to your pride, but it's pretty much the truth.



I agree that The surfaris and Wipe Out and forever linked. If ya ask some one what Dick Dale did the would say MISIRLOU.. IF YOU ASKED THEM 40 YEARS AGO THEY WOULD OF SAID dick who...?


I never really though of Duanes Eddy Peter Gunn as Rock a Billy.. Or when he did Pink Panther yeah he is rock a billy.. and that is the root to much surf like Lets Go trippin Walk don't Run... I must say Rock a Billy and some Surf have many comman ground.. The heavey Reverb and twang with that back beat...Easy to hear it
ALL YA NEED IS EARS






Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 20:44pm


I can't believe I saw the Astronauts mentioned here. I'll just take this opportunity to state that their song 'Surf Party' is one of the three greatest surf instrumentals ever...and I consider it the best.

Posted by Steve on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 21:09pm


can't believe I saw the Astronauts mentioned here. I'll just take this opportunity to state that their song 'Surf Party' is one of the three greatest surf instrumentals ever...and I consider it the best.

Posted by Steve on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 21:09pm


Yeah they were great..!!! Those cats could play!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 21:17pm


Duanes Movin and a Grovin Not to be confused with "Lets go Trippin.". LOl Yes Duane B Surf Father and Guitar God...All ya need is ears
Surfs UP!

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 21:56pm


"I agree that The surfaris and Wipe Out and forever linked. If ya ask some one what Dick Dale did the would say MISIRLOU.. IF YOU ASKED THEM 40 YEARS AGO THEY WOULD OF SAID dick who...?"

And that's relevant how? The RnR HoF wasn't around then, and there hadn't been much thought as to who was King of Surf Rock. Though I think more people would know who Dick Dale was 40 years ago than you'd think.


"I never really though of Duanes Eddy Peter Gunn as Rock a Billy.. Or when he did Pink Panther yeah he is rock a billy.. and that is the root to much surf like Lets Go trippin Walk don't Run..."

I never said Duane Eddy was rockabilly. That was Gitarzan's friend, and he didn't even really say that he was rockabilly... just closer to rockabilly than surf. But he's not surf either. I think of him more simply as Rock 'n' Roll.

"I must say Rock a Billy and some Surf have many comman ground.. The heavey Reverb and twang with that back beat...Easy to hear it
ALL YA NEED IS EARS"

If your definition of surf is "reverb and twang," you don't know surf as well as you think. Take "Penetration" by the Pyramids. That wasn't really twangy, but it is most definitely a surf record.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 14:05pm


If your definition of surf is "reverb and twang," you don't know surf as well as you think. Take "Penetration" by the Pyramids. That wasn't really twangy, but it is most definitely a surf record.

lol I know quite a bit about Surf AS mentionded in earlier post Surf is what a Surf band makes it.nOT THAT LL SURF BANDS DO JUST SURF.. It can be Surf POP to Surf Jazz... {Have yA HEARD ANY SURF JAZZ ?IT IS GREAT!!}
TAKE WIPE OUT
SURFERS ANTHEM AND BEST KNOW ROCK DRUM SOLO 2 IN 1 yeah the Surfaris cutting edge guitar work and heavy drum fills are early Hendrix / Van Halen Even the Van Halens wanted to be like the Surfaris Duane is early surf roots and Rock a Bille 2in 1 and much more.. You remind me of a story Hal Baine told me once He was on the road with John Denver and one of the Roadies told him he was not cutting it becauce he did not sound like the drummer on JD last Album!!! Hal almost left the gig becauce they guy dwas a "talking head" with no brains lol!!! {PS Hal was the drummer on the Album lol} and one of the best rock drummers in rock history bare 0000000000000

SURF BALSA
SURF' UP RU?


Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 14:28pm


Once again, your horrible typing/grammar skills make it difficult to make out what you're trying to say.... let's see...

"lol I know quite a bit about Surf AS mentionded in earlier post Surf is what a Surf band makes it"

No it is not. By that definition, a band is limited in its ability to create and expand. If a band for whatever reason, wants to get away from doing surf music and make something else, by your definition, any such attempts to expand will still be considered surf because the band had been primarily surf in its past. That's ridiculous. I agree that one or two experimental albums do not a complete breakaway constitute, but a band should not be limited only by its earliest stuff. That's part of why I don't consider the Beach Boys a surf band. What they did outside the surf scene is a generous portion of their output. And just because they or their fans wear Hawaiian shirts at the show, that doesn't mean it's a night of surf music. That's just imaging. HOLLYWOOD HYPE that you're letting yourself be blinded by!

"TAKE WIPE OUT
SURFERS ANTHEM AND BEST KNOW ROCK DRUM SOLO 2 IN 1 yeah the Surfaris cutting edge guitar work and heavy drum fills are early Hendrix / Van Halen Even the Van Halens wanted to be like the Surfaris"

And for all that, you don't make a point, and yet Dick Dale is still King of Surf.

"Duane is early surf roots and Rock a Bille 2in 1 and much more.."

Rockabilly was around before Duane made the big scene. Second, even if he has influenced a lot of surf guitarists, that doesn't make HIS music surf, and I believe you admitted as much earlier.

As for your anecdote, I'm afraid it doesn't apply at all. As a side note, I agree Hal Blaine's one of the greatest drummers in all of rock'n'roll history, but more importantly, I don't see how I qualify at all as a talking head. I'm not that important, and moreso, it is you who has shown yourself to be lacking in brains. I don't claim to be the end-all be-all on surf music information, but some of the stuff you've said shows a distinct lack of thinking things through before you hit the "Submit Comment" button (in addition to your haphazard typing).

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 17:30pm


Educate me Guys and Gals,

What constitutes a surf band?

Songs about surfing?

Bands with songs in surf movies?

The Guitarists playing a six string surfboard...LOL

Are they all from the sixties?

Are there any new surf bands?

Spacetrucker

"There's only one way to rock"
Sammy Hagar

Posted by Space Trucker on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 18:47pm


for The Kingsmen, you are living in locoland (IMO) if you think they deserve to be inducted.

Maybe the Hall should be able to induct a song, apart from the band? This could apply to many other one-hit wonders (Golden Earring would be another example) that don't have the catalog to merit induction, but do have one or two totally killer songs

I am a lover not a writer ..Your 1 downing me to 1 up yourself proves my point..That you are a "talking head" they do not need to be important.. just little substance to their talk..
The facts spell out my facts ...If you really had an open,understading mind and wanted to learn you would of agreed 98.6 % ..You seem hopelessly hopeless in true "Hollywood Hype"..Rather than the truth..! You are well meaning ,that I believe..!! {Smile}
Enjoy your dream.. "Where there is life there is hope" and "this is no race"
good luck

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 18:48pm


Educate me Guys and Gals,

What constitutes a surf band?

Songs about surfing?

Bands with songs in surf movies?

The Guitarists playing a six string surfboard...LOL

Are they all from the sixties?

Are there any new surf bands?

Spacetrucker

"There's only one way to rock"
Sammy Hagar

Posted by Space Trucker on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 18:47pm


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
for The Kingsmen,



What makes a surf band.? #1 if you say your are that is a start .. Surf music is and can be..
The primal roots such: as Duane Eddy, Sandy Nelson Beach Boy ,Surfairs,Chanteys and other early 60's even late 50's
Lately "Surf Jazz" is the vouge thing in the under ground... You will know it when and if you can hear it..! Some are "Surf bands "other do some "surf" Like all types of "rock music" ,it can and does evolve .. Yes the Beach Boys are Surf and took Surf to many new waves .. 97% of what they did is true surf..!!

With miss spells and all lol
Surf is fun but I just love da blues..
My point is ...That many here/hear are HOLLYWOOD HYPED..
When I am gone, from this "Hamlit" of a forum.. You may think about it and a small shy Smile will come to your face ... lol "That guy mrxyz may of been wright..} lol I know I was there..{WINK}
Until then
love and peace to all through music
Don't worry be HAPPY!!! {SMILE}

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:29pm


"The facts spell out my facts ...If you really had an open,understading mind and wanted to learn you would of agreed 98.6 % ..You seem hopelessly hopeless in true "Hollywood Hype"..Rather than the truth..! You are well meaning ,that I believe..!! {Smile}"-mrxyz

I have offered facts AND opinion based on experience, and you still stick to your guns with no wavering or willingness to admit that you might be wrong on some things. I live at the foot of the Rocky Mountains, doesn't mean I know everything about them. Doesn't mean I am THE authority on the local music scene. "Surf Music" even reached and touched us "land-locked" folks, especially ones who were soaking up everything they could that concerned rock guitar.

I'm not "caught up in the hype", as you seem to like to eloquently describe anyone who doesn't agree with you, I'm just someone who has spent 40+ years learning everything that I could about my passion, which happens to be all things rock guitar. I think "surf music" might fall in there somewhere...

Philip seems to make a good argument on a lot of different topics concerning rock. You, on the other hand, lost me when you said Duane Eddy was surf guitar, and you've beat that horse to death without much substantial fact. Don't get me wrong, you've obviously got some knowledge, but we all can't be right all the time. Anyone who thinks they are would probably be considered a "Talking Head".

Good Health...Keep Rockin"!!! We're all in this together!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:35pm


mrxyz...you keep bringing up "surf jazz". My interest is piqued, please give some examples...

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:40pm


"Your 1 downing me to 1 up yourself proves my point..That you are a "talking head" they do not need to be important.. just little substance to their talk.."

Right, then by your own definition, you're a talking head. I'm speaking basic facts here.

"The facts spell out my facts ...If you really had an open,understading mind and wanted to learn you would of agreed 98.6 %"

Ah yes, the classic "I am the way to knowledge" argument. Very compelling. How about citing some sources for your facts? And besides which, you're drawing some pretty unsubstantiated conculsions from any facts you're beginning with.

" ..You seem hopelessly hopeless in true "Hollywood Hype"..Rather than the truth..! You are well meaning ,that I believe..!! {Smile}"

Hollywood Hype? You're the one who says the Beach Boys will always be a surf band because 1) their early songs were about surfing and 2) because they and their fans wear Hawaiian shirts at their concerts.

Look, I'm not trying to put you down to make myself look better. Some of the stuff your saying is way out there, short-sighted, and honestly, sounds like blind fandom for the Surfaris, that Dick Dale is merely a poser for the title of King Of Surf Rock, that the Surfaris should be inducted for "Wipe Out" alone, and that every other song of theirs was a classic, even though most people don't know any other songs, and there are even people who don't even connect "Wipe Out" to the Surfaris. Overall, we're agreeing more than we're disagreeing, and I wish you all the best, but I do ask that you provide a little more coherency for your train of thought.

I must admit though, I think it takes a bit more than saying you're a surf band to actually be a surf band. For me, surf music is music that evokes the image of surfing, songs that could coherently be used in a video montage of great surfing moments or incredible surfing bloopers.

I still can't call the Beach Boys a surf band. When I hear their music, I *do* hear the incredible youthful exuberance and joy of life that you can play at the beach, but youthful exuberance and "Surf Music" are different things to me, though there is some overlap. I agree they are *grounded* in surf music, just as the Four Seasons were rooted in doo-wop, but they evolved beyond it and did a lot more, so much to the point that you can't simply call them a "doo-wop" act without seriously excluding a lot of their best work. Same with the Beach Boys.

Sandy Nelson, admittedly, you've lost me completely. When I hear "Teen Beat" and "Let There Be Drums," I get the feel more of a teenage genius banging away in his garage, dreaming of making his break and just drumming for the love of it. I get a suburban feel and mental picture, not a surfing one.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:54pm


have offered facts AND opinion based on experience, and you still stick to your guns with no wavering or willingness to admit that you might be wrong on some things. I live at the foot of the Rocky Mountains, doesn't mean I know everything about them. Doesn't mean I am THE authority on the local music scene. "Surf Music" even reached and touched us "land-locked" folks, especially ones who were soaking up everything they could that concerned rock guitar.

I'm not "caught up in the hype", as you seem to like to eloquently describe anyone who doesn't agree with you, I'm just someone who has spent 40+ years learning everything that I could about my passion, which happens to be all things rock guitar. I think "surf music" might fall in there somewhere...



If you take what I have said as the truth.. I think you would agree with me 99.345%.
Pleas read my miss spells and what I have said . I am here to get the record straight on what I knows to be TRUTH...Study all you want I was there on what I am talking about..
Many of "US" are tried of the Hollyood Hype. Not that what is said is all un true. but there is more to the Truth ..!
I tell you from the love in my heart {well mostly} lol
Surf Jazz hmm..? Fuller the "Godfather" been doing some with other surf jazz old school beatnik types / I heard Chet Mc Crakken of the Dobbie's do some and Joe Polard of the Grass Roots Beach Boys {Father of the eletric Drums} {Syndrum}..laying some down Tim Bogart of Vanila Fudge doing some stuff.....it is out there... Not big Time ..but a cool wave with a splash of surf.. From Beach Boys to the Surfaris and add in Coltrane with Stray Cats and Marley ..somewhere in that wave of sound....
It aint selling it is for hearing..




Posted by mrxzy on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 20:07pm


have offered facts AND opinion based on experience, and you still stick to your guns with no wavering or willingness to admit that you might be wrong on some things. I live at the foot of the Rocky Mountains, doesn't mean I know everything about them. Doesn't mean I am THE authority on the local music scene. "Surf Music" even reached and touched us "land-locked" folks, especially ones who were soaking up everything they could that concerned rock guitar.

I'm not "caught up in the hype", as you seem to like to eloquently describe anyone who doesn't agree with you, I'm just someone who has spent 40+ years learning everything that I could about my passion, which happens to be all things rock guitar. I think "surf music" might fall in there somewhere...


Listen to "Teen Beat" then Surf Beat Dick Dale lol same idea
Let there be drums and the Sufaris Mystic Drums
I was never really talking just about the Surfaris
It started with Duane Eddy I gave you guys other points From the Kingsman,Peter Paul and Mary to Sandy Nelson,Hal Blaine Dick Dale Chantey Beach Boy and on an on ....
Rather than disagreeing with the facts..Please Learn from them..That's all.. What You know is mostly truth .. What I have added is just more TRUTH
You guys are great..!!
Love and peace
Mrxyz




Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 20:43pm


"Listen to "Teen Beat" then Surf Beat Dick Dale lol same idea
Let there be drums and the Sufaris Mystic Drums"

THANK YOU! NOW, you've given something tangible that we can actually understand HTF you're getting from Point A to Point B. The rebuttal to this point, however, is that being influenced by a particular song is not the same as being influenced by an artist as a whole (though I think that argument, though sound in theory, is sometimes a bit shaky in application).

"I was never really talking just about the Surfaris
It started with Duane Eddy I gave you guys other points From the Kingsman,Peter Paul and Mary to Sandy Nelson,Hal Blaine Dick Dale Chantey Beach Boy and on an on ...."

It was hard to tell where it was all beginning because you went off in so many different directions.

"Rather than disagreeing with the facts"

Your facts have been half-opinion a good deal of the time, not to mention being insulting with it too. Like Gitarzan, I have not been Hollywood Hyped as you'd believe. I've only been at this love of rock'n'roll for 12 or so years, but they have spent going beyond what is commonly known. Anyway, your facts are hard to take them at face value as you ask us to.

But thank you for what you have added. It has been thought-provoking. And the discussion has been interesting.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 21:08pm




Loved their harmonies. Mary Travers is from Louisville. 'Leaving on a jet Plane' is a great song, IMO.

Probably don't have the amount of killer material to get in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 08.11.08 @ 09:05am

Most of what I have said are facts base on facts The When the who and the where, Time line record sale ,and what the folks were mostly talking about told me and me being there,, Not to go through all of the stuff, Mine is not from a book mine is if being there or just facts on time lines mostly both..
Take your time on it ,,,, I know finding out other unknown or un told ideas and facts can be hard to digest,,I was shocked about the Easter Bunny...!
This is no race...




Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 21:23pm


Very little of my knowledge comes from books (even though they did help). Over the years I've been fortunate to converse with some pretty big time players and have gotten to watch a lot of them live, in some very interesting and beautiful surroundings (referring to Red Rocks Ampitheater). Nothing like witnessing the history of rock first-hand...

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 21:35pm



Very little of my knowledge comes from books (even though they did help). Over the years I've been fortunate to converse with some pretty big time players and have gotten to watch a lot of them live, in some very interesting and beautiful surroundings (referring to Red Rocks Ampitheater). Nothing like witnessing the history of rock first-hand...

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 21:35pm

Great and (I am sure it helped I hope we don't have to go down a nother ROCKY ROAD..
All I have done is added to what you know.. It may change your fact of the facts. That is a FACT LOL
I was at many of the sessions and gigs as part of the acts ,many of them were are are my peers or peers friends or both or none ..etc...
I was adding on to what you knew..
Do with it what you like..
I don't really care..You seem like a great guy,,!!!!
This is no race


Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 21:48pm


Philip!!!!!!!!!!!&^&&
About Sandy Nelson
He was not a teenager he was one of the top studio drummers in his late 20's One of Spectors drummers on many Gold Hits..!!!inthe 50's and 60's
He got in a motor bike accident and lost a leg .He still hammered out HITS and as a solo act.. for a while .. It was before your time...
Sandy Nelson and Hail Blane were the 2 hottest studio drummers in TOWN.. for years!!!!
Note:
I did find him on "youtube" Some great stuff!!! Ya might want to see it.. True Rock History...
I think if yoou see Sandy on "YOUTUBE" you will be glad ya did..!!!
Enjoy the music!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 22:30pm


Intersting Topic on Duane Eddy ,Dick Dale, Beach Boys Surfaris and Sandy Nelson
I have been a Duane Eddy fan for years.. I never really thought of him as the "Father of Surf"
After reading these volumes of discussions.. I have to half agree that Duane Eddy had a lot of influence on early "Surf Music". It could be that one could call him "Father of Surf" Even though he is not noted for it..
Point well taken! I need to think about it more but it does have credence.!
I also think of the Beach Boys as surf even Pet Sounds which is the best "Surf Album" ever..
Continue on..?




Posted by mrmr50's on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 23:19pm


Surfs Up
I did a little web surfing on Duane Eddy~~~ Much to my belief Duane had and Album called "Surfing with Duane Eddy,",,, Gee ya might want let him know he is not surf...
Surfs UP RU?

Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 16:29pm


Yep, and Pat Boone did an album called "In A Metal Mood", or something like that...

mrxyz...you know I'm going to continue to give you grief about that, because I just don't see it (or hear it). It's perfectly okay to agree to disagree, though.

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 20:37pm


mrxyz...you know I'm going to continue to give you grief about that, because I just don't see it (or hear it). It's perfectly okay to agree to disagree, though.

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.14.08 @


...20:37pm



LOL you are now in complete denile..

Even after the fact that Duane Eddy had a surf LP

There really is little more for me to say ..
I posted all the other "FACTS"..
Thewy wrere FACTS youyr is an opinion tht the FACTS do not bear out..

When Surfing the web I came up with quite a bit of Facts about Duane Eddy ,Belairs ,Surfaris ect..
When you get bored
Why don't you "LETS GO SURFING NOW EVERYBODY IS LEARNING HOW" surfing the Web
You are HOLLYWOOD HYPED

Enjoy the Show
Surfs UP RU...?





Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 21:25pm


Enjoy mt mis spells That wave you can be right..
SURFS UP!!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 21:27pm


mrxyz...you're absolutely right, his music just isn't my perception of surf music. Don't know that I'd call it denial...could be a difference in environment, geography, etc...I don't know. But it is my opinion. Music has a funny way of doing tht, making you more aware of your surroundings and remembering where you were and what you were doing when you heard a certain song for the first time.

There...mrxyz has just been "Rocky Mountain Highed"!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 21:32pm


mrxyz...you're absolutely right, his music just isn't my perception of surf music. Don't know that I'd call it denial...could be a difference in environment, geography, etc...I don't know. But it is my opinion. Music has a funny way of doing tht, making you more aware of your surroundings and remembering where you were and what you were doing when you heard a certain song for the first time.

There...mrxyz has just been "Rocky Mountain Highed"!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 21:32pm

Think what you will, Duane thought much of IT was and so did many others.. Heck you don't think the Beach Boys are surf... BTW Dick Dale had a LP called Checker Flag {Car stuff} like the Beach Boys, Duane Eddy and the Surfaris and other "Surf type Band/Surf Music etc did ..
When one is "HYPED " they don't know it or they would no longer be "HYPED"
All ya need is EARS
Surfs UP RU?????????????????????????

Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 22:12pm


Over the weekend, I got a Duane Eddy album called 'A Million Twangs' or something like that.

On about 3 of the 15 songs I thought 'oh, so that's where Bennie Hill got his theme music for his show'.

On other songs, I felt the real musical heavy lifting was being done by the sax player & the drummer.

A few songs were pretty catchy, but I'm going to assume that it was way more than the above album that got Mr. Eddy to the Hall.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 08.25.08 @ 10:21am


This man can PLAY
Surfs UP!!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 03.9.09 @ 20:26pm


Moovin and Groovin by Duane Eddy...UNDENIABLY surf sounding, on a Gretsch even.

Posted by Larry on Sunday, 08.21.11 @ 10:46am


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