Ashford and Simpson

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 1998 (The 1999 Induction Ceremony)

Previously Considered? Yes  what's this?


Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2025 (ranked #14 in the Non-Performers - Songwriters category) .

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Will Ashford and Simpson be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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I doubt A&S will get in as artists, but they could possibly get in as songwriters. They wrote all the hits that Marvin & Tammi recorded together as well as "Reach Out And Touch (Somebody's Hand)" "Let's Go Get Stoned" and "I Don't Need No Doctor."

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 03.13.08 @ 15:49pm


I think this songwriting team was more influential than Gamble & Huff...including being part of the Motown songwriting machine, plus great performers in their own right.

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 03.16.08 @ 11:01am


I agree they should probably go in as songwriters, they are in the songwriting hall of fame. I do like their song "Solid" though.

Posted by Brian on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 10:34am


They also wrote Ray Charles' 1966 #1 R&B hit, " Let's Go Get Stoned", and hits for Maxine Brown, Ronnie Milsap & The Shirelles.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 05.12.10 @ 00:08am


R.I.P Nick Ashford

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 23:22pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/motown-songwriter-nick-ashford-dead-at-70-20110822

Motown Songwriter Nick Ashford Dead at 70

Ashford wrote "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" and "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing" with wife Valerie Simpson

By ANDY GREENE
AUGUST 22, 2011 11:30 PM ET

Nick Ashford, one half of the legendary Motown songwriting team Ashford and Simpson who penned the classics "Ain't No Mountain High Enough," "I'm Every Woman" and "Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing" died of throat cancer at a New York City hospital on August 22nd. He was 70.

Ashford met Valerie Simpson at a New York City church in 1964 and they quickly began writing songs together. They scored their first big hit in 1966 when Ray Charles recorded their track "Let's Go Get Stoned" and brought it to Number One on the R&B chart. They began writing for Motown that same year, and hit it big in 1967 with "Ain't No Mountain High Enough." The song was originally recorded by Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell, but Diana Ross recorded it in 1970 and made it her first solo Number One single on the Hot 100.

Over the next few years Ashford and Simpson continued to regularly write for Diana Ross, as well as Gladys Knight, Smokey Robinson and the Marvelettes. In 1978 they wrote "I'm Every Woman" for Chaka Khan, which was later recorded by Whitney Houston on the soundtrack to the The Bodyguard.

In 1974 Ashford and Simpson married each other, and began recording as a duo for Warner Bros. They scored hits with "Don't Cost You Nothin'," "It Seems To Hang On," "Found A Cure" and 1984's "Solid," which hit Number 12 on the Billboard Hot 100. The hits dried up by the 1990s, but they continued to record and tour until very recently.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.23.11 @ 07:44am



With Nick Ashford's recent passing, I think the Rock Hall will induct Ashford & Simpson in the non-performers category. Their output as performers and non-performers is pretty even. Inducting them in the non-performers category would be okay, even more so now that Ashford has passed away. I don't think Valerie Simpson cares how they are inducted. They are already in The Songwriters Hall of Fame. They wrote Ain't No Mountain High Enough, Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing, I'm Every Woman, Solid, among others.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 08:11am


Agreed, Roy. I think it'll be the Ahmet Ertegun Award for them this year. Certainly a better choice than Doug Morris.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.5.11 @ 09:56am


"NO" to Ashford & Simpson ?
Man, are you kidding me ?
With all of the big hits that they wrote for people ?
That's just as dumb as saying "NO'' to Barrett Strong just because he only had one big hit with "Money".

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.2.13 @ 18:08pm


It's a no.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 07.2.13 @ 18:57pm


It's a no.

Posted by Mike.

That's O.K.

I'd probably say "NO" to three of four of YOUR favorites TOO. (LOL)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 09:52am


I love "Solid as a Rock", but how can Ashford & Simpson be taken seriously for being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a group?

Bill G - care to expound?

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 10:10am


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashford_%26_Simpson

Be happy to, Marissa !! Nick and Valerie should be inducted...not for their recording career, but rather, as WRITERS. They wrote several of Motown's biggest hits. They've also written hits for many non- Motown acts, as well. The list of artists that have recorded their songs includes: Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell, The Miracles, Ray Charles,Chaka Khan,(with and without Rufus), Teddy Pendergrass,Ronnie Milsap, The Shirelles, Chuck Jackson,The Marvelettes, The Dynamic Superiors,The Brothers Johnson,Martha & The Vandellas,The Supremes, The Temptations, and others. Please read the above link.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 13:02pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashford_%26_Simpson#Discography

Even as performers, they have had no less than 4 R.I.A.A. Certified Gold Albums and, although their Pop Chart penetration was somewhat limited, they were virtual superstars on the Billboard R&B Charts...with no less than 35 R&B Charts...including 13 R&B Top 20's & 8 R&B Top 10's

Please read this link too. Thanks !!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 13:14pm


http://www.ascap.com/eventsawards/awards/founders/ashfordsimpson.aspx

Ashford and Simpson have also won numerous awards for their work... including being winners of the prestigious ASCAP FOUNDERS AWARD, which they won for their songwriting in 1996.

They are the recipients of a number of awards including ASCAP's highest honor, The Founder's Award and the Pioneer Award from the Rhythm & Blues Foundation, which they received in 1999. In 2002 they were inducted into the Songwriters Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 13:21pm


http://www.soultracks.com/Ashford_and_Simpson

With all of these accomplishments, anybody who doesn't think that Ashford & Simpson shouldn't be inducted is either biased them or against R&B acts in general (which is really stupid) or simply doesn't do enough research. (which is even stupider) .

One thing that I've said on this site many times over the years, is, before people make blanket decisions and assumptions as to whether and artist or group is deserving of induction or not...PLEASE DO THE RESEARCH !!!

(Heck, I would have given Nick and Valerie and award just for staying MARRIED as long as they did ...until Nick's death in 2011).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 13:31pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Ashford_%26_Simpson

***SONGS WRITTEN BY ASHFORD and SIMPSON include***
(all were chart hits)

"AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH"

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell and Diana Ross

"YOU'RE ALL I NEED TO GET BY"

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Tarrell

"IF THIS WORLD WERE MINE"

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell and Luther Vandross

"YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE"
(Heaven Must Have Sent You from Above)

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

"LET'S GO GET STONED"

Ray Charles

"WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE BLAME"

The Miracles

SHOE SHOE SHINE

The Dynamic Superiors

"I'M EVERY WOMAN"

Chaka Khan

"DESTINATION EVERYWHERE"

The Marvelettes

"SOME THINGS YOU NEVER GET USED TO"

The Supremes

"DIDN'T YOU KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO CRY SOMETIME"

Gladys Knight & The Pips

"CLOUDS"

Chaka Khan

"RIDE-O-ROCKET"

The Brothers Johnson

"AIN'T NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING"

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell

"CALIFORNIA SOUL"

the Fifth Dimension

"SURRENDER"

Diana Ross

AIN'T NOTHING BUT A MAYBE"

Chaka Khan and Rufus and Diana Ross

"REACH OUT AND TOUCH"

Diana Ross

"REMEMBER ME"

Diana Ross

"THE BOSS"

Diana Ross

"ONE STEP AT A TIME"

Maxine Brown

NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD

Ronnie Milsap

"GOOD LOVIN AIN'T EASY TO COME BY"

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

"REMEMBER ME"

Diana Ross

"SOLID AS A ROCK"

Ashford & Simpson

"FOUND A CURE"

Ashford & Simpson

"THE ONION SONG"

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

"IT'S MY HOUSE"

Diana Ross

(this is a partial list).







Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 14:30pm


https://www.facebook.com/ashfordsimpson?rf=107775899255448&filter=2

...and yet, with all of these industry accomplishments, most FRL voters STILL don't think that they're worthy.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE WORTHY ????

I'll bet that if they were White Rockers or Black Rappers, THEY'D BE INDUCTED ALREADY !!!!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 14:37pm


But....the fact that LaToya Jackson has a 71% FRL Approval Rating , while Nick and Valerie only have a 49% FRL rating just shows just how screwed up some voters are around here anyway.

"LATOYA JACKSON" ???

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 14:48pm


***CORRECTIONS***

1) "With all of these accomplishments, anybody who doesn't think that Ashford & Simpson shouldn't be inducted is either biased them or against R&B acts in general (which is really stupid) or simply doesn't do enough research. (which is even stupider) ".

I meant "SHOULD BE INDUCTED".

2)"REMEMBER ME"

Diana Ross

(I put it in twice)

3) "Even as performers, they have had no less than 4 R.I.A.A. Certified Gold Albums and, although their Pop Chart penetration was somewhat limited, they were virtual superstars on the Billboard R&B Charts...with no less than 35 R&B Charts...including 13 R&B Top 20's & 8 R&B Top 10's "

I meant to say "no less than 35 R&B Chart HITS".

(Proofread, Bill.Proofread) .

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 15:00pm


Bill - A couple things-First, the fan votes are the most useless thing on this site and they're laughable in almost every genre. Not anything to get worked up about. People are largely voting for LaToya as a joke.

Second, you're correct that Ashford & Simpson are more than worthy of induction as songwriters.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 15:32pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7ATxVX9hs

Cute, yes. Worthy...no.

DarinRG wrote:
Bill - A couple things-First, the fan votes are the most useless thing on this site and they're laughable in almost every genre. Not anything to get worked up about. People are largely voting for LaToya as a joke.

Second, you're correct that Ashford & Simpson are more than worthy of induction as songwriters.

Don't tell me...tell Mike !! (LOL)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 15:41pm


We're voting in their artistry, right? Not songwriting.

No from me. And I'm not Mike.

Posted by NotMike on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 15:46pm


Please expand on this. I'm really curious to learn what your definition of artistry is, and why it excludes songwriting. I'm also very interested in your opinion about the induction of Leiber & Stoller or Holland-Dozier-Holland.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 16:36pm


Yeah, I assumed from the beginning that Mike/notMike was referring to their credibility as performer inductees and I agree with his position there.

I think that a lot of people are unaware of their credentials as songwriters. I wasn't until their name came up in Rock Hall Revisited a few years ago. I then did some homework and agree that they are induction worthy in that capacity.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 07.3.13 @ 18:51pm


"Yeah, I assumed from the beginning that Mike/notMike was referring to their credibility as performer inductees and I agree with his position there."

" I think that a lot of people are unaware of their credentials as songwriters. I wasn't until their name came up in Rock Hall Revisited a few years ago. I then did some homework and agree that they are induction worthy in that capacity."

That's why, as I said , it's important to do research.

Neil provides Wikipedia links to every artist on this site . More people here need to USE THEM.

Especially the ones on artists that they know little about because they may not personally be interested in that artist or genre of music.(like classic R&B ).

I had the same problem a couple of years ago when people on this site said that Barrett Strong and Bobby Womack weren't worthy.

If they'd done the research back then, they would have seen otherwise... and wouldn't have been making dumb uninformed statements about artists they didn't think were worthy....and then finding out later that they WERE .

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 16:07pm


"That's why, as I said , it's important to do research." -Bill

I've been known to preach that a time or two. Some people around here genuinely do and some never will.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 17:28pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wN_Wbnqthg

****ASHFORD and SIMPSON****

Nick and Valerie sing their biggest hit as performers.

(Special mix)

On this tune, instead of giving their songs to others to record,(like Marvin and Tammi) they decided to sing THIS one THEMSELVES !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 21:57pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg

***AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH***

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:03pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbX66Ddxtow


***YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE***

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:06pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pmKPWLBrE

***AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH***

(alternative version)

DIANA ROSS

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:10pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJi56BgkM6o

*****SURRENDER*****

Diana Ross

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:14pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJi56BgkM6o

*****SURRENDER*****

Diana Ross

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:15pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLyNsgzEmAc


***DIDN'T YOU KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO CRY SOMETIME***

Gladys Knight & The Pips


written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:18pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdqtmnd2T0U

***YOU'RE ALL I NEED TO GET BY***

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:21pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=629_vLbgv7g


"REACH OUT AND TOUCH"

Diana Ross

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:25pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFwhCLYO_-M

**LET'S GO GET STONED**

Ray Charles

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:34pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dc2TScEJXU

***REMEMBER ME***

Diana Ross

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 22:38pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUKaRpSMuAA


****AIN'T NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING****

(special extended version)

Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell

written by ASHFORD & SIMPSON

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 23:16pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRAme5JtMWY

Nick and Valerie had two daughters. Here, Oprah interviews Valerie and the girls, Nicole and Asia
who talk about their Husband and Dad.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 23:25pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fw-Ur87VOY

Oprah interviews Valerie Simpson, who talks about the death of her husband , Nick Ashford .

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 23:29pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fw-Ur87VOY

Oprah interviews Valerie Simpson, who talks about the death of her husband , Nick Ashford .

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.4.13 @ 23:29pm


"Please expand on this. I'm really curious to learn what your definition of artistry is, and why it excludes songwriting. I'm also very interested in your opinion about the induction of Leiber & Stoller or Holland-Dozier-Holland."

Posted by The_Claw

Somebody please tell ME how Laura Nyro deserved to be inducted ...But Ashford and Simpson DON'T....despite the fact that Nick and Valerie have FAR more hits as performers AND writers than her ??

I'd LOVE to see your explanation for THIS one !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 07.5.13 @ 16:56pm


Answer: Laura Nyro did not deserve induction.

Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 07.5.13 @ 18:57pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck8gOQXv-Uc

****The MARVELETTES -"Destination: Anywhere" (1968)

Written by Ashford & Simpson.

Nick and Valerie wrote this 1968 single for the Marvelettes. Not one of their biggest hits, but still one of their BEST...and one of my personal favorites. From their Motown (Tamla) album, "Sophisticated Soul".

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.6.13 @ 12:11pm


"Answer: Laura Nyro did not deserve induction."

Posted by Dezmond

Well, Dez, Nick and Val definitely DO deserve induction. How about it, RRHOF ? Nick is already gone. Does Valerie have to pass away TOO... before you guys finally DO THE RIGHT THING ???

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.6.13 @ 12:15pm


Performers or Non-Performers induction would all be good for Ashford and Simpson. It doesn't matter in their case. A Carole King thing going on here.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 07.7.13 @ 22:28pm


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