Future Rock Legends

My Nominations:

R. Kelly- "I Believe I Can Fly"
Frank Sinatra- "New York, New York"

2012 pick: Kanye West, Big Sean, and Jay-Z- "Clique"

Posted by Zoltan on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 03:14am

nominations:

De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me

20i2 pick: Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by rockstar23 on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 06:22am

Nominations:

Siouxsie & the Banshees- Peek-A-Boo
Janet Jackson- All For You

2012 pick:
Ellie Goulding- Lights

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 10:38am

nominations:
USA for Africa - We Are The World (1985)
Fontella Bass - Rescue Me (1965) often confused with Aretha Franklin, but this was a huge hit featured prominently in several movies and TV shows since.

2012:
Muse - Survival (Olympic theme song)

Posted by jtrichey on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 14:05pm

My nominations for January 2013/2038 induction into The Song Project...

E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
Fanny - Charity Ball (1970)

Voter's Choice

The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy (1958)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 14:29pm

My Nominations:

The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow (2000)
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down (1966)

2012 pick:

The Lumineers - Ho Hey

Assuming we're still doing Voter's Choice:

The Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action (1976)

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 14:40pm

My Nominations:
Frank Zappa- Joe's Garage(1979)
Neil Young- Old Man(1972)
2012 Pick:
Psy- Gangnam Style

Posted by Ryan on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 17:24pm

A new year has arrived. And with that a new section of song selections. With that in mind, here are the nominations I have picked for the Song Project Class of January 2039.

Stevie Wonder - Skeletons
Nick Cave - O Children

2012 Pick:

Coldplay - Paradise

And if we are still doing Voter's Choice Selections:

Eduard Khil - I am So Glad Because I Am Finally Returning Home

Remember, that last song selection is only IF we are still continuing the Voter's Choice Selections. I would be okay if this section is discontinued. Do not be alarmed at my choices.

Have at this what you will,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 20:12pm

Lax30 - Coldplay - "Paradise" is from 2011.

We're still doing Voter's Choice, so if anyone wants to nominate a Voter's Choice song, feel free to do so.

My Nominations:

Kanye West Ft. Nicki Minaj, Jay Z, Bon Iver & Rick Ross - "Monster"

Merle Haggard - "Mama Tried"

2012 Pick: Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band - "We Take Care Of Our Own"

Voter's Choice: Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!"

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 01/1/2013 @ 23:52pm

Pretty sure Ellie Goulding's Lights is also a 2011 release.

Posted by rockstar23 on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 03:49am

Pretty sure Ellie Goulding's Lights is also a 2011 release.

Posted by rockstar23 on Wednesday, 01.2.13 @ 03:49am

That is correct. Early 2011 at that. I would support it in the future though, if ballot space ever allows. This is shaping up to be one hell of a tough month.

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 07:03am

Wow - I didn't realize that "Lights" had been out that long. I'll nominate it in the next round then. It's a great track.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 08:59am

Yeah Lights was quite a big hit over here when it first came out, not sure why it took so long to catch on in the US.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 10:02am

My nominations:

Story of my LIfe - Social Distortion (1990)
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel (2004)

My 2012 song:

Duquesne Whistle - Bob Dylan

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 14:38pm

Gassman, Story of My Life was inducted last month.

Posted by rockstar23 on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 16:07pm

rockstar23: I was so used to nominating it every year, lol!

My replacement: "Love Child" (1978) by The Supremes

It is really a pivotal song in the transition of Motown from heavily masking their song's messages to being more open to taking chances. You would't have seen The Temptations' "Cloud Nine", Marvin Gaye wouldn't have been able to record What's Going On and Stevie Wonder wouldn't have been able to enjoy the artist freedom he got when he turned 21 at Motown without "Love Child."

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 18:09pm

Nominations for January:

Sponge - Plowed
Tori Amos - God

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 01/2/2013 @ 22:38pm

Here are the nominees for January. As always, let me know if I missed anything:

Janet Jackson - All For You
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Fanny - Charity Ball
Kanye West, Big Sean And Jay-Z - Clique
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle
Psy - Gangnam Style
Tori Amos - God
Death Grips - Hacker
The Lumineers - Ho Hey
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
Eduard Khil - I Am So Glad Because I Am Finally Returning Home
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly
Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention - Joe's Garage
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down
The Supremes - Love Child
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried
De La Soul - Me, Myself And I
Kanye West Ft. Nicki Minaj, Jay Z, Bon Iver & Rick Ross - Monster
Frank Sinatra - New York, New York
Nick Cave - O Children
Grimes - Oblivion
Neil Young - Old Man
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Peek-A-Boo
Bjork - Play Dead
Sponge - Plowed
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Fontella Bass - Rescue Me
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
The Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
Stevie Wonder - Skeletons
Len - Steal My Sunshine
Muse - Survival (Olympic Theme Song)
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy
Beck - The New Pollution
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
USA For Africa - We Are The World
Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band - We Take Care Of Our Own
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing!

Voting will close at Midnight Central time on Tuesday the 8th.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 01:17am

My votes for January 2013/2038 induction into The Song Project...

The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy (1958)
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (1966)
Fanny - Charity Ball (1970)
E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
USA for Africa - We Are the World (1985)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 01:50am

Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Kanye West/Jay-Z/Big Sean - Clique
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
USA for Africa - We Are the World

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 02:05am

My Ballot:

Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band - We Take Care Of Our Own

Hopefully I can go back to "Love Child" in the next round!

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 05:36am

My vote:

The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried
Nick Cave - O Children
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 10:03am

De La Soul - Me, Myself And I
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
Len - Steal My Sunshine
Muse - Survival
USA For Africa - We Are The World


Would definitely get back to Beck - New Pollution & Soggy Bottom Boys at a later date.

Posted by jtrichey on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 10:48am

Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Kanye West Ft. Nicki Minaj, Jay Z, Bon Iver & Rick Ross - Monster
Bjork - Play Dead
Grimes - Oblivion

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 12:10pm

Tori Amos - God
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly
Sponge - Plowed
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke


Just Missed:

Neil Young - Old Man
Len - Steal My Sunshine

Posted by BSLO on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 14:24pm

Janet Jackson- All For You
De La Soul- Me, Myself And I
Siouxsie & the Banshees- Peek-A-Boo
Bjork- Play Dead
Frank Ocean- Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 14:51pm

De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Psy - Gangnam Style
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by rockstar23 on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 17:30pm

Neil Young - Old Man
Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention - Joe's Garage
Psy - Gangnam Style
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly

Posted by Ryan on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 19:06pm

Neil Young - Old Man
Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention - Joe's Garage
Psy - Gangnam Style
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly

Posted by Ryan on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 19:06pm

Song Nominations for January:

Janet Jackson - All For You
Frank Sinatra - New York, New York
Sponge - Plowed
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
Beck - The New Pollution

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 20:00pm

The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
Tori Amos - God
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Peek-A-Boo
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - O Children
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 21:22pm

My votes:

R. Kelly- I Believe I Can Fly
Frank Sinatra- New York, New York
Kanye West, Big Sean And Jay-Z - Clique
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

Posted by Zoltan on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 22:54pm

Len - Steal My Sunshine
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
Janet Jackson - All For You
Beck - The New Pollution
R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 01/3/2013 @ 23:39pm

Clique

Gangham Style

Beck - The New Pollution

Frank Sinatra- Theme from New York, New York

Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)

Posted by Logan on Friday, 01/4/2013 @ 03:52am

R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly
Tori Amos - God
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I
Janet Jackson - All For You
Bjork - Play Dead

Posted by Scott Banks on Friday, 01/4/2013 @ 14:15pm

my song votes:


The Supremes - Love Child
Frank Sinatra - New York, New York
Neil Young - Old Man
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me

Posted by Darrin A on Friday, 01/4/2013 @ 16:28pm

Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio
The Vapors - Turning Japanese
Alphaville - Big In Japan
David Bowie - China Girl

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01/5/2013 @ 00:05am

FRL,

Just a mistake I happened to notice that needs correcting: Bruce Springsteen's "The Rising" is listed as the year 2001. Both the single and album came out in 2002. Please and thank you!

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 01/5/2013 @ 07:19am

My Votes:

Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
Beck - The New Pollution
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried
Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band - We Take Care Of Our Own


Missed the cut, but I would support these songs in the future:

R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly
De La Soul - Me, Myself And I
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Frank Sinatra - New York, New York
Kanye West, Big Sean And Jay-Z - Clique
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
USA For Africa - We Are The World
Tori Amos - God
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
Neil Young - Old Man
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention - Joe's Garage
Kanye West Ft. Nicki Minaj, Jay Z, Bon Iver & Rick Ross - Monster
Grimes - Oblivion
The Supremes - Love Child
The Lumineers - Ho Hey
Fontella Bass - Rescue Me

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 00:01am

I have a vote count incoming momentarily!

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 01:19am

Here's our first vote count! If anyone else has been keeping up with it, feel free to double check the results. Are there any other posters out there who have yet to submit a ballot? If no changes are made, we have a full class of ten!

R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly 7
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I 6
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 5
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke 5

Beck - The New Pollution 4
Frank Sinatra - Theme from New York, New York 4
Janet Jackson - All for You 4
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) 4
PSY - Gangnam Style 4
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow 4
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Bjork - Play Dead 3
Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You 3
Kanye West/Big Sean/Jay-Z - Clique 3
Neil Young - Old Man 3
Tori Amos - God 3
USA for Africa - We Are the World 3

Bruce Springsteen - We Take Care of Our Own 2
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe 2
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King 2
Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage 2
Len - Steal My Sunshine 2
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me 2
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried 2
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - O Children 2
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel 2
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Peek-A-Boo 2
Sponge - Plowed 2

The Supremes - Love Child 1
Grimes - Oblivion 1
Kanye West/Nicki Minaj/Jay-Z/Rick Ross/Bon Iver - Monster 1
Muse - Survival 1
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down 1
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle 1
Fanny - Charity Ball 1
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy 1

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 01:41am

Paul K- I think you couldn't Ryan's votes twice and it look like he accidentally posted twice.

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 07:06am

Lady Pank - Minus Zero

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 07:30am

Gassman - crap. You're right, my bad. The sad thing is, I even noticed that he double posted, and made a mental note not to count it twice. Well, here's the adjusted tally;

R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly 6
De La Soul - Me, Myself and I 5
Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 5
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke 5

Beck - The New Pollution 4
Frank Sinatra - Theme from New York, New York 4
Janet Jackson - All for You 4
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) 4
Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow 4
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Bjork - Play Dead 3
Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You 3
Kanye West/Big Sean/Jay-Z - Clique 3
PSY - Gangnam Style 3
Tori Amos - God 3
USA for Africa - We Are the World 3

Bruce Springsteen - We Take Care of Our Own 2
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe 2
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King 2
Len - Steal My Sunshine 2
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me 2
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried 2
Neil Young - Old Man 2
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - O Children 2
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel 2
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Peek-A-Boo 2
Sponge - Plowed 2

The Supremes - Love Child 1
Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage 1
Grimes - Oblivion 1
Kanye West/Nicki Minaj/Jay-Z/Rick Ross/Bon Iver - Monster 1
Muse - Survival 1
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down 1
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle 1
Fanny - Charity Ball 1
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy 1

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 08:06am

Roy, you do realize your ballot contains no songs put up for nomination for this month, right? I will say though that I may consider China Girl as a potential nominee next month. In any matter, here is my ballot for the Song Project class of January 2039. These include, obviously, both of my nominees this month.


Nick Cave - O Children
Stevie Wonder - Skeletons
Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke
Janet Jackson - All For You
Beck - The New Pollution

I do trust these songs are approved by fellow posters for this month. I will make certain that a number of 2012 songs get considered for next month. I do note my error in Paradise being finished in 2011. Sorry for the confusion.

We might need to induct Trapped in the Closet in the near future,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 01/6/2013 @ 13:31pm

I'm going to save "Theme from New York, New York" by swapping my vote for "We Are the World" to it (which I will definitely vote for again next month, by the way!)

Posted by Paul K on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 02:25am

Voting closes at midnight Central time tonight, so get any votes or vote switches in by then.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 13:22pm

Bjork - Play Dead (Excellent nomination a bjork classic, would love to see unravel or joga)

Neil Young - Old Man

Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You

R. Kelly - I Believe I Can Fly

as for tori amos I'll vote for it, but she had many better songs to choose from, very disappointed in the nomination of one of her worst, and this does not seem to be about hits anymore, , "me and a gun", "horses" "crucify", "precious things", hell even one of her covers would have been better

I also crave more nick drake nominations, "way to blue"?

Posted by mikhail on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 16:21pm

I'd like to see some more Nick Drake. Especially "River Man", but I'd also be on board for "Time Has Told Me" and "Things Behind the Sun".

Posted by Paul K on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 16:38pm

I could get behind some more Nick Drake.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 19:37pm

I'd like to change my vote for "Mama Tried" to Tori Amos - "God".

Posted by Darren on Monday, 01/7/2013 @ 21:01pm

There was talk over the past year about inducting some novelty songs, so I thought I'd throw a name out there that isn't yet represented in this project: Shirley Ellis.

She's got at least 2 cheesy, yet enduring songs from the mid-60's that both hit big on the charts and remain well known to this day in "The Name Game" (Shirley, Shirley Bo-Birley, Banana-na-ba Fo Firley, etc.) and "The Clapping Song" (3 6 9 The Goose Drank Wine).

Would there be any interest in one of these songs next round?

Posted by BSLO on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 00:31am

Voting is closed. Here is the class of January 2013:

R. Kelly - "I Believe I Can Fly"
Stevie Wonder - "Sir Duke"
De La Soul - "Me, Myself And I"
Bob Dylan - "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35"
Janet Jackson - "All For You"
Beck - "The New Pollution"
Frank Sinatra - "Theme From New York, New York"
Tori Amos - "God"

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 01:02am

Well, this was a good start to the year (I'm personally not a fan of Tori Amos at all, especially that song, it seems like a bland ballad of controversy, but I'm sure we all have a few tracks we don't like inducted, so it's nothing to whine about... as long as we never induct a song from Insane Clown Posse, I'll be fine). In fact, overall, this induction just made our Project that much better! and there were so many songs that almost made it in that I will continue to support.

First of all, I will renominate "Swimming Pools (Drank)" as my 2012 pick. It just missed squeezing in this round, so I hope everyone who supported it this round will again next round :)

I will also support these tracks in the future depending on what else is nominated (I don't really pay attention to WHO nominates what, so look for your tracks!)

Bruce Springsteen - We Take Care of Our Own
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe
Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You
Grimes - Oblivion
Kanye West/Big Sean/Jay-Z - Clique
Merle Haggard - Mama Tried
Neil Young - Old Man
USA for Africa - We Are the World

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 02:15am

I think this was a good class as well. I guess as the person that nominated God by Tori Amos, I should defend this pick to some degree.

I am personally not a fan of Tori Amos either for much the same reasons as Paul, but I believed that her significance in the female singer-songwriter movement, coupled with the fact that she has had some chart success meant that she warranted some inclusion into this project regardless of my personal opinion of her music.

I chose this song because it was one of her biggest hits, seemed to have some crossover appeal (at least in the US and Canada), and stood out among the rest of the songs I sampled from her because of the catchy rhythm section backing the song.

I can definitely see now though why she hasn't had a song inducted until now. She doesn't seem to have much appeal to our more mainstream voters (personally I think it's because of her unusual song structure), and those that are fans of her work have completely different opinions on what her best songs are.

She seems to be much more of an album-oriented artist, which always makes it tough to choose just one song, but regardless I'm glad that she's finally had something inducted. :)

Posted by BSLO on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 10:28am

Honestly, I think that all of our projects have had a case of the girl cooties for too long. I'm going to start focussing more on female acts in my nominations. On the Album side I was shocked and saddened that GFW and I were the only ones who voted for The Idler Wheel, a Grammy nominee and Top 5 in most year end polls that I've seen.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 12:33pm

DarinRG: The Idler Wheel is on my too listen list for the year. I'll have to check it out. Also we've had a female artist problem since the beginning of all of our projects. In the Revisited Projected almost all of the female acts that were inducted into the real Hall of Fame took longer to get into ours. I'm not saying that those choices weren't warranted in some cases, but it was the start of a disturbing trend,

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 13:38pm

Also good list of song inductees, but I am surprised that no 2012 songs made were inducted. Really happy that we finally inducted a De La Soul song.

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 13:42pm

I'm glad we inducted a De La Soul track, too.

I'm definitely nominating Ellie Goulding's "Lights" for the February cycle.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 14:08pm

"In the Revisited Projected almost all of the female acts that were inducted into the real Hall of Fame took longer to get into ours. I'm not saying that those choices weren't warranted in some cases, but it was the start of a disturbing trend"

agreed. the fatc that Kate Bush waited longer to get in than Bon Jovi is pretty awful.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 14:11pm

speaking of female acts, i might be nominating the following:

Madonna - Borderline
Koko Taylor - Wang Dang Doodle
Tracy Chapman -Give Me One Reason
Bjork - Big Time Sensuality

i'm glad most of the songs i nominated were inducted (The New Pollution, Smooth Operator, He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother)

Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 14:39pm

Here's a few tracks from the ladies on my queue:

Aretha Franklin - I Say a Little Prayer
Aretha Franklin - Think
The Crystals - Then He Kissed Me
Etta James - Something's Got a Hold on Me
Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand the Rain
Nico - These Days
Britney Spears - Toxic
Mazzy Star - Fade into You
Norah Jones - Don't Know Why
Imogen Heap - Hide and Seek

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 15:07pm

Also, "Theme from New York, New York" actually came out in 1980, not 1977. It's a cover of the Liza Minnelli song that DID come out in '77.

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 15:13pm

We're giving the ladies their due? Cool.

Abra Moore - Four Leaf Clover
Beth Orton - Stolen Car
Liz Phair - Supernova

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 20:27pm

What about Fanny?

Produced by Richard Perry, the first all woman band to ever hit The Top 40 with...

Charity Ball (1971) #40 I just nominated this one!
Butter Boy (1974) #29

Then also, The Pointers Sisters - Neutron Dance (1983)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 21:10pm

Here some prog tracks that is good for nomination

Genesis - Supper's Ready or Musical Box
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus
Rush - Subdivisions or Roll the Bones
Pink Floyd - The Great Gig in the Sky
Electric Light Orchestra - Sweet Talkin' Woman

Posted by Johnny C. on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 23:30pm

Def Leppard- Rocket
Led Zeppelin- Trampled Underfoot
Rush- Subdivisions
Pink Floyd- Have A Cigar
The Who- Eminence Front

Posted by Will S on Tuesday, 01/8/2013 @ 23:58pm

I'm seeing a lot of good suggestions for nominees. A few current female acts that I'd also like to see get on the board are St. Vincent, Tegan & Sara and Ladyhawke.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 01/9/2013 @ 02:01am

In addition, the following Voter's Choice songs were added in January:

Death Grips - "Hacker"
Eduard Khil - "I Am So Glad Because I Am Finally Returning Home"
The Flamin' Groovies - "Shake Some Action"
The Harry Simeone Chorale - "The Little Drummer Boy"
Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!"

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 01/9/2013 @ 05:30am

BSLO - "The Name Game" is a good candidate. I don't know how much of a priority it will be for me to vote for it right away, but maybe eventually. By any chance, did this idea come to you right after you watched last week's episode of "American Horror Story"?

Regarding Tori Amos - "God" is one of a handful of her songs that I would vote for. I would have preferred "Crucify", but it wasn't nominated. Someone stated that they thought "God" was a song that was written to be shocking or get attention and I think that's inaccurate. She doesn't strike me as the type of artist who would insincerely write a song for shock value because there's always been a certain honesty to her music.

Regarding "The Idler Wheel..." - It's definitely one of the 2012 albums that I want to get inducted. If it had one more vote, I would have switched my vote to that album instead of "Hi Infidelity". It's a great album and while the critical acclaim is undeniable and appreciated, I can't be moved to care whether or not it was nominated for a Grammy, because I think the Grammys are terribly unreliable at honoring the best music every year.

Regarding 2012 songs - I'm surprised that there weren't any 2012 songs inducted, but there will be. I think two of the best options weren't nominated this month, "Some Nights" by fun. and "Too Close" by Alex Clare. Here's what I think of the 2012 songs that were nominated:

Bruce Springsteen - "We Take Care Of Our Own" - Obviously I support this song, I nominated it. lol

Kanye West, Big Sean And Jay-Z - "Clique" - Solid song, but I can think of at least 5 eligible Kanye / Jay-Z collaborations that are better ("Monster", "N****s In Paris", "No Church In The Wild", "Run This Town", "Otis").

Bob Dylan - "Duquesne Whistle" - Maybe, but not really a high priority.

Psy - "Gangnam Style" - Please, no. This is a Youtube fad and a dance craze and not a great or important song. It's already getting to the "jump the shark" phase (it was recently featured in "Beetle Bailey" for crying out loud) and I think a year from now we'll look back on this song and not even give it a consideration. It's a year later, how badly do you want "Party Rock Anthem" voted into the Hall of Fame?

The Lumineers - "Ho Hey" - I considered voting for it. It's one of my favorite 2012 songs, but I would much prefer "Little Talks", though it's not eligible as a 2012 nominee.

Grimes - "Oblivion" - Great song. Hopefully it's not too obscure to get voted in.

Muse - "Survival (Olympic Theme Song)" - Maybe. I think "Madness" is better.

Kendrick Lamar - "Swimming Pools (Drank)" - If I wasn't able to switch a vote to get "God" inducted, I would have switched my vote for this song, so it's likely this song will get my vote next month.

Frank Ocean - "Thinkin' Bout You" - Another close one. It should get in soon.

Carly Rae Jepsen - "Call Me Maybe" - An excellent pop song. Not the highest priority, but eventually I'll vote for it.

GFW - I think it's pretty awful that Bon Jovi was voted into our Hall Of Fame. lol That being said, it's hard to deny that Bon Jovi is a name artist while Kate Bush is rather obscure.

Female artists - I prefer meritocracy over voting for a song because that artist or that type of song is under-represented (also, I don't think we should vote for a song so that a particular artist can "get on the board" unless the song itself is deserving), but if the songs nominated are worthy, I'd definitely vote for them.

From the previously mentioned lists:

Madonna - "Borderline"
Tracy Chapman - "Give Me One Reason"
Aretha Franklin - "I Say A Little Prayer"
Aretha Franklin - "Think"
Norah Jones - "Don't Know Why"
Liz Phair - "Supernova"

I'd also like to mention:

Regina Spektor - "Laughing With"
L7 - "Pretend We're Dead"
Bikini Girl - "Rebel Girl"
Madonna - "Express Yourself"

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 01/9/2013 @ 08:09am

" BSLO - "The Name Game" is a good candidate. I don't know how much of a priority it will be for me to vote for it right away, but maybe eventually. By any chance, did this idea come to you right after you watched last week's episode of "American Horror Story"? "

Hahaha, yes as a matter of fact it did! Out of all the completely bizarre things they've thrown at us this season, that song and dance sequence was definitely the most out of left field so far.

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 01/9/2013 @ 10:31am

Also, I haven't had time to go through everyone's female artist suggestions yet, but I'd definitely vote for Pretend We're Dead, Rebel Girl or either Volcano Girls or Seether by Veruca Salt.

These are all solid alt-rock songs from the 90's by all-girl or girl-dominated rock groups.

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 01/9/2013 @ 10:42am

"You Give What You Give" by New Radicals should be
"You Get What You Give".

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 01/13/2013 @ 13:41pm

Any interest for these?

Weather Report- Birdland (1977)
The Waterboys- The Whole of the Moon (1985)
Gino Vanelli- I Just Wanna Stop (1977)
KMFDM- Juke Joint Jezebel (1995)
Foster the People- Don't Stop (2011)
Young the Giant- Cough Syrup (2011)
Fiona Apple- Every Single Night (2012)
Imagine Dragons- Time to Begin (2012)

Posted by Greg F on Sunday, 01/13/2013 @ 17:23pm

Would there be any support for any of these songs?
Israel "IZ" Kaʻanoʻi Kamakawiwoʻole- Over the Rainbow
Black Keys- Lonely Boy
Neil Young- Old Man
Deep Purple- Child in Time
Public Enemy- Don't Believe the Hype
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris- Yeah
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones- The Impression That I Get
The Ramones- The KKK Took My Baby Away or Rock & Roll High School or Teenage Lobotomy


For Greg F depending on what else is nominated i would consider:
Imagine Dragons- Time to Begin (2012)
KMFDM- Juke Joint Jezebel (1995)

Posted by Ryan on Tuesday, 01/15/2013 @ 22:50pm

Ryan, I would support:

the songs by
Neil Young
Deep Purple
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones

Usher/Lil Jon/Ludacris' "Yeah!", as well as "U Got It Bad" or "Burn"

any of those Ramones songs or "Beat on the Brat" or "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend"

For Imagine Dragons, I'd want "It's Time"

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 01/16/2013 @ 17:25pm

Would any of you be interested one of these songs:

Joni Mitchell - Woodstock
Queen - Radio Ga Ga
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Randy Newman - Short People

2012 pick:
fun. - Some Nights

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 01/17/2013 @ 20:26pm

I'd consider voting for both Radio Ga Ga and Suppers Ready.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 01/18/2013 @ 12:01pm

Since we were talking about female artists and a lot of us have quite a few on our queues, here's just a suggestion for March, kind of like we did with the Special Christmas Song Vote. I don't follow the holiday or know much about it at all, but I know International Women's Day is March 8th, and I was thinking we could have an extra vote after our March class for female artists only?

Not meant to be an annual thing, just if people are down.

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 01/20/2013 @ 02:07am

I have two songs I'd like to know if people are into:

Alice's Restaurant Massacre by Arlo Guthrie
100,00 Fireflies by Magnetic Fields

Any takers?

Posted by printthelegends on Wednesday, 01/23/2013 @ 04:02am

BSLO / Anyone else - I'm planning to either nominate "Rebel Girl" by Bikini Kill or "Pretend We're Dead" by L7 in February. Which one would you be more likely to vote for?

BSLO - Veruca Salt - "Volcano Girls" - Great song, I would definitely vote for it at some point.

Ryan - I would support "Lonely Boy", "Old Man", "Don't Believe The Hype", "Yeah" and "The Impression That I Get". I gotta say, beyond the Ramones songs that we've already voted in, they all pretty much sound the same to me. I'd vote for "Bonzo Goes To Bitburg", though.

Paul K - I might eventually vote for "It's Time" or "Radioactive" by Imagine Dragons.

John R.C. - I would absolutely vote for "Some Nights" in February. "Short People" might get my vote at some point.

printthelegends - I would vote for "Alice's Restaurant Massacre", but I can't guarantee anything. Even with as many songs as we've voted in I still have way too many songs I can't vote for every month.

Posted by Darren on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 00:33am

Paul K. - I don't know about having a special "Ladies Night" vote. Every other time we've done that it's been for a particular genre of music. "Women" isn't a genre. It seems like if we have a special vote, it would be because we think that those songs couldn't get voted in via the regular process (which was kind of the situation for the Christmas rock songs) and I don't think that's the case.

I don't think that there's any deliberate bias against songs performed by women. Some artists are vastly under-represented to be sure (Aretha Franklin has 3 songs), but dedicated voting blocs have inducted 8 songs by Janet Jackson and 5 songs by Bjork.

If we put an effort forth in future months to nominate and vote for the right songs we can get more representation for female performers in the regular voting process.

Posted by Darren on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 00:48am

To be fair, I think all of us voters here are male and we as group would be more likely to nominate/induct songs by say a minor male rock group than a female rock or pop artist.

Look at how little representation there is for women like Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Beyonce etc. and How long it took us to induct something by Tori Amos. Even Aretha Franklin and Madonna, arguably the two biggest female artists in history are somewhat under-represented. I think "I Say a Little Prayer", "Think" and "Express Yourself" are classic songs and it's head scratcher that they aren't inducted yet.

I guess it's about image as well, as we seem to have our favorites (several song and album inductions for Janet and Bjork, all of which are deserved and Bjork's "Vespertine" should also be inducted). But overall there is a problem.


I myself have for a long time been nominating "You Don't Own Me" by Lesley Gore because I think she's big enough a rock icon to have representation here. "It's My Party" is another induction worthy song.

A "ladies" vote is a bit patronising imo, in a way saying that these songs aren't good enough to go in through a regular vote.

If there is a special vote I would really support another Early Influence induction. We really missed some classic songs there like "Summertime", "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes", "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square", "Someone To Watch Over Me", "My Funny Valentine" etc.

Posted by rockstar23 on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 06:10am

Totally agree with you rockstar23, Kate Bush, one of the most innovative pioneers in popular music EVER, (male, female, duo, or group) is also neglected By the hall as well as this site.

Similar situations for: Nina Simone(also innovative as hell), Linda ronstadt(one of the most sucessful acts ever), Sylvia Robinson(litterally the mother of rap), Dionne Warwick/Mary Wells/Tina Turner solo(self explanitory),Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention (braught back a genre), Ella Fitzgerald (this one makes me cringe), Cher (her first use of autotune done correctly, and record setting career length/sucess), Carol Carpenter/Carol King(duh), Dolly Parton/Patsy Cline, The Gogos(say what you may but look at writing credits), as you put it Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Beyonce who played major parts in writing, and many more (though most of this list is singer songwriters/mowtown girl groups like Janis Ian/Judy Collins/Carly Simon/The Marvelettes/the crystols/The Blossoms/the Ronettes/the Shangri-La’s/The Chantels/the Shirelles/the Chiffons/the Cookies/the Angles/running out of names)

And for the 90's: PJ Harvey,Portishead(helped define a genre),Tracy Chapman,The Crannberries(so neglected!) Fiona Apple, Melissa Etheridge, and as you mentioned Tori Amos (I could mention more feminst singer songwriters but for me the only one that really had actual innovation was Tori, (also Celine Dion is one worth mentioning in the industry puppet catagory...not, but atleast she had more than one hit)

Great job representing Janet, Heart, Fleetwood Mac,The Pretenders,Janis Joplin, Blondie, Joni Mitchell, Donna Summer, and Bjork though. Anyway, point is, most of these women, especially Kate Bush should be ranked higher. Maybe the hall exclueded Kate for being a progressive act. I'm not even going to get into that, a whole other rant (progressive is a Synonym for innovation)

did I miss anyone?

Posted by Mikhail on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 13:02pm

Grrr forgot Sonic Youth and the eurythmics

Posted by Mikhail on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 13:20pm

I also would include Joan Baez, Melanie, k.d lang, Lucinda Williams, & Gillian Welch. Joan Baez, Melanie, Lucinda Williams & Gillian Welch have no songs in the project so far. k.d. lang has one so far. On Carole King we should consider voting in some songs from something other than Tapestry. How about Sweet Seasons, Been to Canaan, Nightingale, or Jazzman. I will likely nominate a song by either Joan Baez, Melanie, Lucinda Williams, or Gillian Welch in February. What song from Joan Baez, Melanie, Lucinda Williams, or Gillian Welch would you guys would be interested in voting for? For Joan Baez I'm thinking "Diamonds in Rust", for Melanie I'm thinking either "Brand New Key" or "Candles in the Rain", for Lucinda Williams I'm thinking either "Passionate Kisses", or "Car Wheels on a Gravel Road". As for Gillian Welch I don't know what I would suggest.

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 17:51pm

Greg F. - Of the songs / artists you mentioned, I would be most likely to vote for "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road".

Posted by Darren on Friday, 01/25/2013 @ 20:12pm

Darren - I'd vote for Pretend We're Dead for sure if you nominated it. If you nominated Bikini Girl, I'd vote for it at some point...maybe right away, but it would depend on what else was nominated.

Posted by BSLO on Monday, 01/28/2013 @ 10:12am

"Pretend We're Dead" it is. I'm pretty sure I'll nominate that this month along with Neutral Milk Hotel - "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea", which I'm kind of shocked hasn't been voted in already and something from 2012.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 01/28/2013 @ 23:25pm

Would anybody be interested in voting for another song from Gordon Lightfoot?

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 01/29/2013 @ 21:30pm

We have plenty of options for February, but for future months, what do you guys think of "I Love It" by Icona Pop?

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 01/30/2013 @ 13:17pm

I know early noms/voting is generally discouraged, but I've got a very busy couple of days ahead... a new job and hectic plans, soooooo if it would be okay, I've got an early package to deliver to you guys. (or maybe it's a late package, as these two 70's classics should have been in long ago).

Here are my nominations for February 2013:

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais (1978)
The Doors - Love Her Madly (1971)

2012 nominee: Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 01/30/2013 @ 15:59pm

Nominations:

Lucinda Williams- Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (1998)
The Weather Report- Birdland (1977)

2012 pick: The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 01:27am

The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel (2004)

My 2012 song:

Duquesne Whistle - Bob Dylan

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 02:17am

Nominations:

Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me

2012 pick: Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by rockstar23 on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 05:13am

Nominations:

Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me

2012 pick: Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by rockstar23 on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 05:13am

Would anybody be interested in voting for another song from Gordon Lightfoot?

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 01.29.13 @ 21:30pm
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I'll back you up on Gordon Lightfoot.


Nominations:

Liz Phair - "Supernova" (1994)
Abra Moore - "Four Leaf Clover" (1997)

Voter's Choice:

Spectre General - "Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way" (1986)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 08:44am

Would anybody be interested in voting for another song from Gordon Lightfoot?

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 01.29.13 @ 21:30pm
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Yeah, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 09:12am

since we were talking about women not mostly inducting their songs, here are my nominees:

Tracy Chapman -Give Me One Reason
Nina Simone - Sinnerman

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 10:30am

My nominations:

Genesis - Supper's Ready (1972)
Randy Newman - Short People (1977)

2012 pick: fun. - Some Nights

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 10:41am

can somebody nominate this song please...

The Ides of March - Vehicle

thanks.

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 14:06pm

akeem-You just did :p

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 14:11pm

Pavement - Gold Soundz
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe

2012: Grimes - Oblivion

VC: Nico - Chelsea Girls

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 14:23pm

akeem-You just did :p

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01.31.13 @ 14:11pm

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Gassman, I nominated the following and we are allowed two right?

Tracy Chapman -Give Me One Reason
Nina Simone - Sinnerman

Posted by akeem on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 15:28pm

akeem: Whoops I missed those

I am going to make a push that Chelsea Girl gets inducted into the regular song section instead of the Voters Choice section. I feel like it is too important of song to but put into the VC section. My first thought of this song always goes to its use in The Royal Tenenbaums. I think it would be a mistake for this song to go into the VC section.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 16:15pm

Count me in on Chelsea Girl, Gassman. Agreed that it's too important for VC.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 16:19pm

Nominations:

The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down (1966)
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am a Man of Constant Sorrow (2000)

Voter's Choice:

Red Krayola - Hurricane Fighter Plane (1967)

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 17:16pm

Voter's Choice:

The Pretty Things- The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High (1970)

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 18:15pm

My Nominations:

Frankie Valli- "Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You"
Whitney Houston- "I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)"

2012 nomination:

Adele- "Skyfall"

Posted by Zoltan on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 18:57pm

2012 nomination:

Adele- "Skyfall"

Posted by Zoltan on Thursday, 01.31.13 @ 18:57pm

Great track! Best Bond theme since "Live and Let Die"

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 19:36pm

Great track! Best Bond theme since "Live and Let Die"

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01.31.13 @ 19:36pm


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I agree, except there's also A View to a Kill by Duran Duran in 1985!

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 22:01pm

My votes:

Lucinda Williams- Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (1998)
The Weather Report- Birdland (1977)
The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio (2012)
Nico- Chelsea Girls
Liz Phair- Supernova

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 06:11am

I agree about Skyfall. Awesome Bond theme!

Assuming that we are still allowed to nominate songs, my nominations for the month are:

Shirley Ellis - The Name Game (1964)
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now (1998)

Posted by BSLO on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 08:16am

My nominations for February 2013/2038 induction into The Song Project...

E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
Fanny - Butter Boy (1974)

2012

Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return

Voter's Choice

The Pointer Sisters - Neutron Dance (1984)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 09:12am

Nominations haven't closed yet.

Voting hasn't started yet.

We start every month with 2 days of nominations, followed by 5 days of voting. This process begins on the 1st of every month.

Nominations end at 12:01 AM Central Time on Sunday, February 3rd.

Voting ends at 12:01 AM Central Time on Friday, February 8th.


I don't think Nico and The Pointer Sisters should be candidates for Voter's Choice. It's meant to be for obscure songs by obscure bands. Didn't we have this same conversation about the Nico song a few months ago?

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 11:00am

No, that was These Days. Different song.

Also if Nico's too popular for VC, then Vangelis certainly is.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 11:29am

Half the songs in VC don't belong there. It's used too often as a receptacle for songs that belong in the main category that people don't feel like going through the frustration of fighting for through the groups overall biases and blind spots. I'll admit to being one of the worst offenders, which is why I've stopped contributing to VC.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 11:55am

Darren, will the songs we nominated on 1/31/13 count for the February nominations?

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 15:36pm

John R.C. - Yes, they will. Paul's nominations as well. We just don't want people to start voting before everyone gets their nominations in. Greg's vote will count, but he can change it if he likes.

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 16:48pm

Whenever voting starts I will likely make some changes. I'm thinking about voting for The Pointer Sisters- Neutron Dance since Rick nominated in the wrong category. I'm also questioning on rather The Pretty Things would be considered obscure or not. If I decide to withdraw that nomination I will let you guys know.

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 17:34pm

This month will likely be the last month I will submit a voter's choice I'm out of ideas for songs to put there and I'm afraid I may wind up misplacing songs there.

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 17:49pm

My Nominations:
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris- Yeah
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones- The Impression That I Get
2012 Pick:
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis/Wanz- Thrift Shop

Posted by Ryan on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 18:28pm

I don't think Nico and The Pointer Sisters should be candidates for Voter's Choice. It's meant to be for obscure songs by obscure bands. Didn't we have this same conversation about the Nico song a few months ago?

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02.1.13 @ 11:00am


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I see how things work around here, I've complained about this and nobody wanted to do anything about it, now that I'm using Voter's Choice like others have been doing, it's suddenly a problem, well until #6 hit Dan Hartman "I Can Dream About You" 1984, #27 hit Cashman & West "American City Suite" 1972 and Vangelis "Blade Runner (End Titles)" 1982 are removed then I will keep nominating!

Switch out my nomination of...

The Pointer Sisters - Neutron Dance (1984)

For

Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle (1983)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 20:25pm

Nobody was picking on you Rick. I would vote for a Pointer Sister song. However Neutron Dance is not the best choice in my opinion. I would personally vote for either Fire (1979), He's So Shy (1980), Automatic (1982), or Slowhand (1982).

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 20:37pm

To all: I have said this before and I will say it again make sure that the song you nominate in Voter's Choice is actually an obscure song by an obscure band like Darren said. Do your research before throwing a song in VC do we don't put in anymore that don't belong in there. There's nothing we can do for the misplaced ones that are already there. So if you are still complaining it's not going to do any good.

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 20:46pm

I have now compiled my nominations for the Song Project Class of February 2039. As often, these songs were on my mind these last few weeks.


The Jam - Start!
Coldplay - Paradise

Here then is my 2012 pick for this voting cycle. As you may know, I intially had Paradise as my 2012 pick. This was before realizing that the Coldplay album Mylo Xyloto came out in 2011. This song however did come out last year in 2012. And in my mond, it was probably the best pop song of last year.

Ellie Goulding - Lights

Finally, my Voter's Choice selection. Whether or not this is legitimate will remain to be seen. None the less, here it is.

L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence

In truth, anything off of Alpacas Orgling is well suited. This song, however, is best amongst equals. Try to guess the band's influence. I am sure fellow posters will be pleasantly surprised.

Are the Lights calling one home aliens?,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 21:17pm

Lax30 - I'm sorry, but the song "Lights" by Ellie Goulding was originally released as a single on March 13, 2011.

Here's the wikipedia link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lights_%28Ellie_Goulding_song%29

"Lights" can be nominated as a regular nomination, but not as a 2012 song.


Rick - There's no conspiracy here and no one is picking on you. The Pointer Sisters are far too successful and "Neutron Dance" is way too good of a candidate for the Song Project to be a Voter's Choice candidate. The fact that people think this is the case is a compliment for the song, not an insult. Look at the VC picks that aren't being singled out:

Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way
Red Krayola - Hurricane Fighter Plane
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not familiar with any of those artists or songs. That doesn't mean that the artists / songs aren't brilliant, but it means that I don't think they have the popularity necessary to have a sporting chance in the Song Project.

There are songs that were put into Voter's Choice that some think shouldn't have been and nothing was done about it. But two wrongs don't make a right. Just because someone "got away with" (hard to view putting a Song Project candidate in the Voter's Choice category as a victory), it doesn't mean you should try to do the same. Hopefully, we can resolve to do something about the situation to minimize the damage going forward.

That being said, I think it might be time to either end the Voter's Choice option or find a way to regulate it that everyone can agree to.

When we first came up with the idea, we discussed options for officially disqualifying songs that didn't "belong" in the Voter's Choice category, but then we never did anything to that effect. If we're going to continue the Voter's Choice option in March and beyond, we need to come up with a way of disqualifying songs that don't fit the obscurity concepts.

An alternate idea would to have Voter's Choice be separate from the Song Project voting. Everyone could nominate a Voter's Choice song and it would automatically go into Voter's Choice, but it would be ineligible for the Song Project vote.

There have been several songs that were nominated for Voter's Choice that have been voted into the Song Project and I think a big part of the reason that this happened is because everyone knew that those songs had a "now or never" tag attached to them. "Songs A, B and C are more worthy, but if I don't vote for song X this month, it'll go into Voter's Choice and be ineligible for the Song Project for good. I can always vote vote for songs A, B and C later." is not a fair mentality to inflict on this project. It means that some songs have an advantage over others and voting should be on a "best of the best" basis, where all songs are on a level playing field.

Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I don't consider Voter's Choice songs to be a part of the Hall Of Fame. Putting a song in Voter's Choice because you don't think it can get voted into the Song Project isn't like a consolation prize in my opinion. It's more like "Submitted For Your Consideration" than a free pass to the Hall.

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/1/2013 @ 23:59pm

And now that half the board probably hates me (just joking...lol), here are my nominees:

L7 - "Pretend We're Dead" - A great, but overlooked song from one of the best female-driven alt-rock bands of the 90's.

Neutral Milk Hotel - "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea" - I was rather shocked that this song hasn't been voted in yet, especially since several of the voters cite NMH as one of their favorite bands.

I'm not going to nominate a 2012 song this month. There are already 28 songs that I'd like to vote for this month and adding another wouldn't help matters much. I would like to further endorse fun. - "Some Nights", which I will definitely vote for and would have nominated were it not already nominated. I haven't finished listening to all the 2012 albums I want to hear, but "Some Nights" is a strong candidate for my pick of best song of 2012.

I'm not going to nominate a Voter's Choice song this month either. The songs I was considering (for example, "Moth's Wings", "Two Weeks" "Stillness Is The Move") could all easily be described as borderline candidates and I think I would rather they remain as Song Project candidates in case Passion Pit, Grizzly Bear or Dirty Projectors every have a fun.-esque breakthrough and these songs ever have a better chance.

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 00:11am

Hey everyone, I'm back home. I guess I didn't miss the nominations period after all, but better safe than sorry.

As for what to do with Voter's Choice long-term? Well, personally I've never once participated in it. I for one agree with everything Darren said; it potentially punishes the other songs when we should be voting on a "best of the best" basis, but there has been more than one song placed there that probably should have been in The Song Project, and more than one bigger song that was penalized from being inducted into The Song Project when people were voting for VC tracks instead.

I've suggested this in the past; especially if we keep it, maybe two or three times a year, we "upgrade" a single song from Voter's Choice to The Song Project. Everyone makes a ballot of the five most worthy from VC, but only the choice with the most votes gets promoted. The only thing being that the song needs to be on at least 50%(?) of ballots cast.

In the past, this idea was dismissed as "once a Voter's Choice song, always a Voter's Choice song". But this "rule" is a very unwritten one, and is just kind of a general attitude; we aren't physically incapable of making the change. This very occasional (and not very generous) change would collectively rectify and mistakes. Besides, what happens if one of the Voter's Choice artists gets a second song, but it is inducted into the actual Song Project? I could see this happening with Camel or Meat Puppets.

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 00:20am

high volume this month. Should make for a close vote.

Nominees:
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog (1958)
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire (1984)

2012:
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait

Posted by jtrichey on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 01:17am

I say we either separate VC from the song project or stop doing it. I would support upgrading one song from vc to the song project.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 02:03am

Lax, you wouldn't happen to be a Todd In the Shadows fan, would you?

@Darren: I'd support OhComely and Two headed Boy Pt1/2 before ITAOTS.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 08:22am

"There have been several songs that were nominated for Voter's Choice that have been voted into the Song Project and I think a big part of the reason that this happened is because everyone knew that those songs had a "now or never" tag attached to them. "Songs A, B and C are more worthy, but if I don't vote for song X this month, it'll go into Voter's Choice and be ineligible for the Song Project for good. I can always vote vote for songs A, B and C later." is not a fair mentality to inflict on this project. It means that some songs have an advantage over others and voting should be on a "best of the best" basis, where all songs are on a level playing field." -Darren

This is spot on, but I'd only quibble with one point. When I've voted for VC nominees I've never thought "A, B and C are more worthy than X". It's been "A, B and C are more mainstream and safe and thank god someone finally nominated the plenty worthy, but until now overlooked, X, but I have to vote for it now or never". I'll be doing that this round with Red Krayola - Hurricane Fighter Plane, another song that I really hate to see relegated to VC.

A difference in POV, but your overall point here is completely accurate.

My opinion on VC is that it was a fun experiment, but it's become more problem than payoff. I would support the more radical approach of completely scrapping it, allowing it to remain solely as a graphic where it is on the Song Project page, but allowing all songs relegated to it to be eligible for nomination once again should someone choose to nominate them. In my opinion freeing up those songs is best for the Song Project's integrity. There are quite a few songs in there that while not being mainstream and obvious, have legitimate historic significance and are just as worthy, if not more so than many of the songs that we've inducted that are simply album tracks by acts who just happen to be popular with a large segment of the group, or songs that have little merit or significance beyond having gotten radio play and being recognizable.

Alright, that's my two cents anyway.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 10:52am

"I'll be doing that this round with Red Krayola - Hurricane Fighter Plane, another song that I really hate to see relegated to VC."

Fair enough Darin, you are right it deserves better than VC.

Replace my Voter's Choice Nomination of Red Krayola - Hurricane Fighter Plane to:

The Rationals - Gave My Love (1965)

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 11:34am

Hurricane Fighter Plane has my guaranteed vote whenever and wherever it's nominated.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 11:44am

Allow me to weigh in on the Voter's Choice dilemma here:

First off, I'm the guy who came up w/the idea. When I came up w/it, I was under the impression that we would all act in good faith regarding the songs placed here. Clearly this is not the case.

When I chose my particular tracks, I did so in the knowledge that these songs were not being heard anymore over commercial radio or MTV or old-fashioned, popular, Broadcasted means of communication. I have been roundly criticized for choosing Cashman & West, as a for example. The key diff. between "American City Suite" & something such as Dan Hartman's "I Can Dream About You" or the Meat Puppet's "Plateau" is that one can still hear these songs on radio (in the Puppet's case, in cover form, but nonetheless...).

Clearly, Clearly, this is not the case for Hartman, the Puppets, Glenn Frey, etc. There are a lot of wonderful songs here, & I'd hate to see this disappear. I still believe that this does not need to be "policied" in some form. I believe we can all act on good faith.

"The Curly Shuffle" is an excellent choice for the VC, as is the Rational, LEO, & the Pretty Things. My own choice, Spectre General, is a song off the 1986 "Transformers" soundtrack. In reality, Spectre General is the assumed name of a 1980's Canadian metal act called Kickaxe. It was believed that the name would not be in fitting w/a kids soundtrack, hence the name change. It's this kind of thing I sought to remember/enshrine.

I don't think we have to get rid of this, or change it in any way. If we all act on good faith regarding this, it can be an excellent sideline area. Remember, it's not mandatory. I say let it go a little while longer, O.K.? How bout it guys? :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 11:57am

c;mon man if you're gonna go transformers go for stan bush or n.r.g. those two are, like, the best.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 12:05pm

Yeah, Cheese, I remember that it was your baby, and in fairness, I was a big supporter of the experiment when it was proposed.

I suppose that it doesn't matter to me if VC continues or not, my issue is with it being a nail in the coffin for the songs placed there. Many of us have put songs in VC that in hindsight don't belong there. Speaking for myself, it wasn't about trying to get away with something or acting in bad faith, it was more about making misjudgments in feeling out exactly what VC was and what belongs there.

Using myself as an example, I placed songs by Sleeper, Christian Death and Jim Carrol Band in VC. In hindsight none of these are exactly obscure bands and each of their songs that I buried there fall into that category that I was speaking of earlier of being historically significant to their time and place even though they may fall outside of the group's normal scope or areas of strongest familiarity. That's not to mention putting a song by Dead Can Dance, a very significant 80s Alt band in VC. As I look through, I'm also seeing the Fall, Neu!, Meat Puppets, Japandroids, none of whom are exactly bands who should have been stuck in VC.

All I'm looking for the opportunity for some of those mistakes to be corrected should someone want to take the initiative to do so. And I don't mean a special election where one a year gets through or whatever. I don't mind VC sticking around, but now that we've tried it for awhile I just don't like the finality of it. The opportunity to correct mistakes that I feel were mostly made in good faith should be available.

None of those songs will make for easy inductions into the main category, but the opportunity should be there if someone were to want to tackle it. I don't see much downside in allowing VC songs to remain eligible. Worst case scenario, they're rejected in the election and remain in VC. Best case, we discover that there was more support for the song than might have been thought by the person who placed it in VC and the song "graduates". I think that this also eliminates the "gun to the head" scenario that Darren accurately pointed out.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 12:42pm

I want to be able to nominate any song from VC that I feel that doesn't belong in there. I'm with Darin on this. If this will be allowed starting I want to try it.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 17:30pm

Shouldn't the Japanoids song not be in there? It is a 2012 song so it was put there before it became eligible in the first place.

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 17:42pm

can I change my Pavement nom to Laura - Bat For Lashes?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 18:01pm

GFW - "can I change my Pavement nom to Laura - Bat For Lashes?" - Sure, no rule against changing nominations.

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 02/2/2013 @ 19:20pm

Nominations are now closed.

Here are the nominees for February 2013:

Abra Moore - Four Leaf Clover
Adele - Skyfall
Bat For Lashes - Laura
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Coldplay - Paradise
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return
Fanny - Butter Boy
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
fun. - Some Nights
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Grimes - Oblivion
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Liz Phair - Supernova
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis/Wanz - Thrift Shop
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Nico - Chelsea Girls (What did we decide about this song's VC nomination?)
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
Randy Newman - Short People
Shirley Ellis - The Name Game
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Doors - Lover Her Madly
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog
The Jam - Start
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High
The Rationals - Gave My Love
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
The Weather Report - Birdland
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris - Yeah
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)

As always, let me know if I missed any nominations.

Anyone who is interested in doing so may cast a ballot. A ballot must have exactly 5 songs and can only contain songs that have been nominated. Every voter can make one switch to their ballot if they choose to do so.

Voting closes at 12:01 AM on Friday the 8th.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:12am

Duh, I missed my own nominations...

Here are the nominees:

Abra Moore - Four Leaf Clover
Adele - Skyfall
Bat For Lashes - Laura
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Coldplay - Paradise
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return
Fanny - Butter Boy
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
fun. - Some Nights
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Grimes - Oblivion
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence
L7 - Pretend We're Dead
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Liz Phair - Supernova
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis/Wanz - Thrift Shop
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Nico - Chelsea Girls
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
Randy Newman - Short People
Shirley Ellis - The Name Game
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Doors - Lover Her Madly
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog
The Jam - Start
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High
The Rationals - Gave My Love
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
The Weather Report - Birdland
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris - Yeah
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:20am

My votes for February 2013/2038 induction into The Song Project...

Fanny - Butter Boy (1974)
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle (1983)
E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return (2012)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:43am

My Ballot:

1. Adele - Skyfall
2. Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
3. Nico - Chelsea Girls
4. Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
5. The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow

Posted by Gassman on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:44am

The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Doors - Love Her Madly
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Usher/Lil Jon/Ludacris - Yeah!

There were at least ten other songs I would have voted for and will in the future, but I'll talk about those later.

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:49am

My Ballot:

Adele - Skyfall
fun. - Some Nights
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio

Posted by John R.C. on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 01:54am

My Ballot:

Adele- "Skyfall"
Frankie Valli- "Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You"
Whitney Houston- I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
Usher/Lil Jon/Ludacris - "Yeah!"
Lesley Gore- "You Don't Own Me"

Posted by Zoltan on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 02:12am

I don't have to make an account? I was going to do this last month but I thought I did.

The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - "The Impression That I Get"

Usher - "Yeah!"

L7 - "Pretend That We're Dead"

Neutral Milk Hotel - "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea"

The Doors - "Love Her Madly"

Posted by Anthony on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 02:17am

Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais

The Doors - Love Her Madly

Grimes - Oblivion

Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait

Posted by Alec on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 02:30am

Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype
Frank Ocean- Thinkin' Bout You
Usher - Yeah!
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Macklemore - Thrift Shop

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 03:42am

My vote:

Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 06:19am

Bat For Lashes - Laura
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Grimes - Oblivion
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Nico - Chelsea Girls

Just missed out:
NMH - ITAOTS
Genesis - Suppers Ready

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 08:29am

Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Doors - Love Her Madly (thought this was already in???)
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog

Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 08:46am

Mighty Mighty Bosstones- The Impression That I Get
Usher-Yeah!
Macklemore- Thrift Shop
Public Enemy- Don't Believe the Hype
The Doors- Love Her Madle

Posted by Ryan on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 10:40am

*The Doors-Love Her Madly

Posted by Ryan on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 10:44am

Ryan - Thank you for correcting the title of the Public Enemy song. That's been grating on me.

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 11:04am

Bat For Lashes - Laura
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Nico - Chelsea Girls
Nina Simone - Sinnerman

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 11:15am

Adele - Skyfall
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason

Posted by akeem on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 11:58am

The Doors - Love Her Madly (thought this was already in???)

Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 02.3.13 @ 08:46am

Haha, so did I! Last month I was comparing my personal Essential Songs playlist to our Song Project, and I was completely shocked. I instantly moved it to the top of my nomination queue. That thing never seems to get any shorter :P

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 16:15pm

Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
Liz Phair - Supernova
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
The Doors - Love Her Madly
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog


Again, the Soggy Bottom Boys just miss the cut.

Posted by jtrichey on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 16:25pm

My vote:

Lucinda Williams- Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (1998)
The Weather Report- Birdland (1977)
Liz Phair- Supernova (1996)
The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio (2012)
Nico- Chelsea Girls (1967)

Posted by Greg F on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 18:46pm

That halftime show reminded me of another one of our snubs in this project, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)".

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 02/3/2013 @ 21:14pm

Wow, this was definitely the toughest vote to narrow down in awhile.

Adele - Skyfall
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
L7 - Pretend We're Dead
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get

I also very much support Love Her Madly, but it looks like it already has plenty of votes.

Posted by BSLO on Monday, 02/4/2013 @ 10:49am

after bslo's vote, here's the update:

The Doors - Lover Her Madly 6
Adele - Skyfall 5
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me 5
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris - Yeah 5
Nico - Chelsea Girls 4
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire 3
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea 3
Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype 3
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio 3
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais 3
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get 3
Bat For Lashes - Laura 2
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now 2
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You 2
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald 2
Grimes - Oblivion 2
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) 2
L7 - Pretend We're Dead 2
Liz Phair - Supernova 2
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 2
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis/Wanz - Thrift Shop 2
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait 2
Nina Simone - Sinnerman 2
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel 2
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog 2
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow 2
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe 1
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King 1
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return 1
Fanny - Butter Boy 1
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You 1
fun. - Some Nights 1
Genesis - Supper's Ready 1
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle 1
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down 1
The Weather Report - Birdland 1
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason 1
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) 1
Abra Moore - Four Leaf Clover 0
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle 0
Coldplay - Paradise 0
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence 0
Randy Newman - Short People 0
Shirley Ellis - The Name Game 0
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way 0
The Jam - Start 0
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High 0
The Rationals - Gave My Love 0

Posted by akeem on Monday, 02/4/2013 @ 21:09pm

swimming pools, love her madly, The Impression I get, Pretend that we're dead, and in the aeroplane over the sea

Posted by Nagol on Monday, 02/4/2013 @ 23:23pm

Over on the Album Project, Lax proposed the idea of increasing the number of albums each voter could vote for each month, while maintaining the same number of inducted albums each month.

I think this would be a good idea for the album project, but a great idea for the song project.

There were a total of 48 songs nominated this month. Each voter who put in nominations nominated between 2-4 songs. Assuming that everyone voted for their own nominees (and logically, they would), that only leaves 1-3 spaces on their ballot for songs nominated by others.

If we expanded the number of songs each voter could select each month to 7 or 10 or whatever, each voter would be able choose more songs beyond the ones they nominated themselves and we could get more well-defined overall results and better feedback regarding which songs should be re-nominated in the future.

Keep in mind, the number of songs inducted each month would still be 5-10, so this wouldn't dilute the results.

Thoughts?

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/5/2013 @ 22:09pm

I fully endorse the idea for both projects.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 02/5/2013 @ 22:37pm

I also support the idea of voting more than 5 songs. I would also propose that we should put out video links of the songs we nominated (whether the song is live, studio recording or music videos) for a chance to hear the songs they are voting if one of us don't know what the song is.

Posted by John R.C. on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 00:25am

I don't really mind more votes, but keep in mind that the voter's choice thing may be going by the boards, and there will be just 4 more months to nominate a 2012 song, so nominations per person will be back to 2 not that long from now.

Posted by jtrichey on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 00:30am

We need more "new jack swing" in this project like...

Al B. Sure! - Nite and Day (1988)
Bobby Brown - On Our Own (1989)

8-)

Who would vote for these?

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 00:43am

John R.C. - Good idea, just remember that the spam filters will only let you post one link per post.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 01:02am

Votes for February:

Electric Light Orchestra - "Rock & Roll Is King"
Gordon Lightfoot - "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"
Abra Moore - "Four Leaf Clover"
Liz Phair - "Supernova"
Spectre General - "Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way"

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 06:14am

If everyone wishes to increase the vote totals for the albums & songs beginning next month, I'm onboard.

I do have a suggestion for the Voter's Choice. After the monthly choices are selected for this round, I suggest we take the VC's and have a special vote, to see which songs we as a group would remove. Make it the same way as the monthly voting (five songs). There are a few obvious choices to be removed, but not as many as it appears at first. This will make them eligible.

Take the process and do it once every six months. I don't think we really need to do it anymore than that.

It's real simple: An optional choice, for either:

1. A novelty hit,
2. A song that you know of personally, but that you know is too obscure for serious consideration into the Song Project

& I'm adding this in as clarification:

3. An artist who you like, but who's in a situation so strange that it doesn't conform to the general norm.

As a for example, I brought up the 30+ yr. instrumental work of Jim Johnston for World Wrestling Entertainment a month ago. Technically, Johnston is one of the great instrumental artists of all-time, but the situation he's in limits his commercial viability.

The same w/Spectre General, who as I noted last week, do not really exist, but who are a pseudonym for a Canadian metal outfit called Kickaxe.

Hopefully, this provides some better clarification as to what I wanted w/ the VC. I still believe in the good faith of this group, & I think it does show w/most of our picks. I don't think we need a massive change.

What do you guys think?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 06:57am

Here are my picks for the Song Project Class of February 2039. These include both of my nominees and some other important songs that may or may not have a chance this month.


The Jam - Start!
Coldplay - Paradise
The Doors - Love Her Madly
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Adele - Skyfall

There is my ballot for all to see. I am pleased that some fellow posters are interested in my suggestions for the Album and Song Projects. I feel I have done something right this time. If there is one other matter I want to adress, it is regarding the Voter's Choice picks. I agree with the sentiments expressed regarding Voter's Choices. I would add the stipulation that no artist or group inducted into the Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project be considered for a Voter's Choice pick. Even their deep cuts should not be considered.

Let me know what you think,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 14:21pm

Yep. Fully agree with Darren, increase the number of votes per ballot. I think either 8 or 10 is a good number.

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 15:24pm

I also want to trade in my vote of the very safe "Love Her Madly" for the deserving "Pretend We're Dead".

That said, if and when we do increase the number of votes per ballot, do you think we should still allow vote swaps?

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 15:33pm

Personally, I don't have a problem with vote swaps if they're used to help an album or song get over the hump or maximize the class size. I only object when they're childishly used to block something from getting in, which became something of an issue in Projected, but I don't see much of that in Song or Album.

I wouldn't have a fit if the group wanted to eliminate it, but I haven't seen it being a problem either.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 15:45pm

Personally, I don't have a problem with vote swaps if they're used to help an album or song get over the hump or maximize the class size. I only object when they're childishly used to block something from getting in, which became something of an issue in Projected, but I don't see much of that in Song or Album.

I wouldn't have a fit if the group wanted to eliminate it, but I haven't seen it being a problem either.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 15:45pm


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Yeah, Pac-Man Fever by Buckner & Garcia became a victim of this childish behavior over at The Album Project 2 years ago, it had enough votes to be inducted, then Gassman and others started blocking its induction with vote swaps until they got their own way!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 20:36pm

Rick - New jack swing is definitely a genre that needs some representation, but I don't know if those particular songs would have much of a chance. I don't know about Al B. Sure, but I would guess the Bobby Brown song with the best chance would be "My Perogative".

Cheesecrop - Your suggestion would be to have a vote every six months to remove songs from Voter's Choice, but those songs would only be eligible for The Song Project, not voted into The Song Project? If that's the suggestion, I would think we could accomplish the same thing by allowing Voter's Choice "inductees" to be nominated for the Song Project. There's really no reason we couldn't do that. They'd still have to be voted in, after all.

Paul K / DarinRG - If we decided to expand the number of votes per ballot, I wouldn't think we would need to remove the vote-changing option. Every voter would still only have one and so long as they only used their switches constructively, didn't participate in vote-swap deals and generally followed the rule of DBAD (Don't Be A...)., there wouldn't be any reason to get rid of the option.

I think we should have some official votes after the Song and Album Project votes are done for the month to sort out what everyone wants to do about Voter's Choice and ballot size.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 20:43pm

My Votes:

fun. - Some Nights
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
L7 - Pretend We're Dead
Liz Phair - Supernova
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)


Will vote for in future rounds or switch my vote to under the right circumstances this round:

The Doors - Love Her Madly
Adele - Skyfall
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris - Yeah
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
Public Enemy - Don't Believe The Hype
Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Grimes - Oblivion
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
Coldplay - Paradise
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
Bob Dylan - Duquesne Whistle
Randy Newman - Short People
Shirley Ellis - The Name Game

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 20:48pm

Yeah, Pac-Man Fever by Buckner & Garcia became a victim of this childish behavior over at The Album Project 2 years ago, it had enough votes to be inducted, then Gassman and others started blocking its induction with vote swaps until they got their own way!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 20:36pm

If I remember correctly it did get enough vote for induction in the first place to vote deals you made with five voters. After all that I remember going on several different tangents against vote trades.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 20:58pm

If I remember correctly it did get enough vote for induction in the first place to vote deals you made with five voters. After all that I remember going on several different tangents against vote trades.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 20:58pm


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Yeah, everybody made deals here back then, but they didn't block it for that reason, I would never lower myself to their level by outright blocking any albums which I believe should not be in this project!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 21:09pm

How about some jazz fusion in the song project like

The Weather Report- Birdland (1977)
Mahavishu Orchestra- The Noonward Race (1971)
The Soft Machine- Slightly All the Time (1970)
Return to Forever- Sorceress (1976)

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 21:13pm

The Pac Man Fever issue was about people finally having enough of vote trading being used to artificially build ground up support for a song or album. I know that you're still sore about it, but I'm talking about situations where something has enough legitimate votes and someone intentionally uses a vote to snipe it at the last minute.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 21:19pm

Yeah, everybody made deals here back then, but they didn't block it for that reason, I would never lower myself to their level by outright blocking any albums which I believe should not be in this project!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 21:09pm

That sounds right. Luckily since the number vote swaps are limited to one vs. three then it would harder to block albums in the album project or songs in the song project. I'm fine with vote swaps as long as they do so to help something go through and expand the class and no blocking or I will go on a tangent again.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02/6/2013 @ 21:24pm

Bugger, the amount of words given to Pac Man Fever on this site blow my mind.

Posted by rubythursday on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 00:36am

The Pac Man Fever issue was about people finally having enough of vote trading being used to artificially build ground up support for a song or album. I know that you're still sore about it, but I'm talking about situations where something has enough legitimate votes and someone intentionally uses a vote to snipe it at the last minute.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 21:19pm


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Indeed I am still sore about it because besides me, at least 2-3 other voters, Tahvo, Cheesecrop along with another one actually supported the album's induction!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 01:25am

Bugger, the amount of words given to Pac Man Fever on this site blow my mind.

Posted by rubythursday on Thursday, 02.7.13 @ 00:36am

Pac Man Fever has taken on legendary status round these parts.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 03:33am

Update that includes:
+Nagol
+Cheesecrop
+Lax30
+Darren
+my vote swap

Six songs are currently set to get in. If anyone wants to swap one of their songs with only one or two votes for one of the ones with 4 or 3, now's the time to do it.


The Doors - Love Her Madly 7

Adele - Skyfall 6

Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me 5
L7 - Pretend We're Dead 5
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea 5
Usher/Lil Jon/Ludacris - Yeah! 5


Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) 4
Liz Phair - Supernova 4
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get 4
Nico - Chelsea Girls 4

Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire 3
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald 3
Public Enemy - Don't Believe in the Hype 3
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio 3
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais 3

Bat For Lashes - Laura 2
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock N Roll Is King 2
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now 2
Frankie Valli - Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You 2
fun. - Some Nights 2
Genesis - Supper's Ready 2
Grimes - Oblivion 2
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 2
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis/Wanz - Thrift Shop 2
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait 2
Nina Simone - Sinnerman 2
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel 2
The Everly Brothers - Bird Dog 2
The Soggy Bottom Boys - I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow 2
Abra Moore - Four Leaf Clover 1
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe 1
Coldplay - Paradise 1
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return 1
Fanny - Butter Boy 1
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You 1
The Jam - Start 1
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle 1
The Monks - Love Came Tumblin' Down 1
The Weather Report - Birdland 1
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason 1
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way 1
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) 1

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 05:27am

Aight, switch my Bat For Lashes to Liz Phair.

And it's "Don't Believe the Hype", not "Don't Believe in the Hype" . I think that Ryan is the only one who voted for it under its correct title.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 05:45am

Aight, switch my Bat For Lashes to Liz Phair.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 02.7.13 @ 05:45am
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Mucho Appreciato on this one.

In return, I'll do something I rarely do, & ask that one of my votes be switched, please.

Please take Abra Moore's "Four Leaf Clover" vote,

& switch it to Nico's "Chelsea Girls"

after all, we wanted more ladies in the project, & this seems the right thing to do here.

Thanks.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 05:58am

Cheesecrop - Your suggestion would be to have a vote every six months to remove songs from Voter's Choice, but those songs would only be eligible for The Song Project, not voted into The Song Project? If that's the suggestion, I would think we could accomplish the same thing by allowing Voter's Choice "inductees" to be nominated for the Song Project. There's really no reason we couldn't do that. They'd still have to be voted in, after all.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 02.6.13 @ 20:43pm
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The idea of a vote every six months is a simple safeguard.

At six month intervals, we simply ask the question, "Does anyone believe that there's been a song inducted that has genuine commerical potential?" If someone answers yes, then we find out what it is.

I think a lot of people are trying to add all sorts of junk & excelsior to something that's very simple. Once again, I say that I have faith that everyone knows what kind of material belongs here. If someone tries to sneak something by that's blatantly commercial, we'll eventually get to it.

You have to have some kind of belief in the good faith of the voter's here. After all, why should Any of us bother w/any of these projects if we weren't acting in some kind of good faith? :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 06:36am

Personally, if you inducted 'Pac Man Fever', why not that Streak song that was a monster novelty hit back in mid 70s?

For about 4 or 5 months, that song was being played everywhere.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 07:51am

FYI - Voting closes at midnight Central tonight.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 08:03am

Pac-Man Fever got almost all it's votes through vote swapping.

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 11:20am

I'm switching my vote for The Weather Report- Birdland to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones- The Impression That I Get.

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 02/7/2013 @ 23:30pm

Voting is closed.

Here is the class of February 2013:

The Doors - Love Her Madly
Adele - Skyfall
L7 - Pretend We're Dead
Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Usher feat. Lil’ Jon and Ludacris - Yeah
Liz Phair - Supernova
Nico - Chelsea Girls
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get

In addition, the following songs were added as Voter's Choice selections:

Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High
The Rationals - Gave My Love

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 01:05am

While everyone is still (hopefully) paying attention and before everyone disappears until the start of next month, we have a few matters that need to be resolved.

I've created a few straight-forward polls to hopefully get us started. Depending on how we vote, there may be follow-up questions that will need to be resolved.

1. What should be done regarding the Voter's Choice process?

A. Leave it as is, no additional regulations added.

B. Add official regulations to allow regular voters to disqualify a nominated VC song from VC consideration for appropriate reasons (specifics TBD).

C. Eliminate the Voter's Choice process.


2. Should we expand the number of songs each voter can vote for each month (the number of monthly inductees would remain the same)?

A. Yes (specific # TBD)
B. No


3. Should Voter's Choice songs be allowed to be nominated for the regular Song Project?

A. Yes (specifics TBD)
B. No

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 01:15am

My opinions:

1. B. Add official regulations to allow regular voters to disqualify a nominated VC song from VC consideration for appropriate reasons (specifics TBD).

2. A. Yes (specific # TBD)

3. A. Yes (specifics TBD)

Posted by Darren on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 01:16am

FRL, Here are the years, so the new songs can be added easily:

Lesley Gore - You Don't Own Me (1963)
Nico - Chelsea Girls (1967)
The Doors - Love Her Madly (1971)
L7 - Pretend We're Dead (1992)
Liz Phair - Supernova (1994)
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get (1997)
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (1998)
Usher/Lil Jon/Ludacris - Yeah! (2004)
Adele - Skyfall (2012)

and to Darren's questions:
1. B
2. A
3. A (and I say they should either be automatically eligible or we should vote on having a one-time vote to get a few of them in).

Posted by Paul K on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 01:24am

My answers to Darren's questions:

1. B. Add official regulations to allow regular voters to disqualify a nominated VC song from VC consideration for appropriate reasons (specifics TBD).

2. A. Yes (I suggest 3 votes in album project and 8 votes in song project)

3. A. (We should allow Voter's Choice songs to be nominated every month and they get voted in they move to the song project.)

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 04:11am

1. abstain - don't really care

2. B No

3. B No

Posted by jtrichey on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 09:05am

Paul K -- thanks for adding the dates. Much appreciated.

Posted by FRL on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 09:08am

My answers:

1. B
2. A (I think we can vote for 7)
3. B

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 10:09am

1.C
2.A
3.A

Posted by Ryan on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 12:23pm

B
A
A

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 15:58pm

To the questions regarding Vote Expansion/Voter's Choice:

1. B

2. A

3. A

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 16:24pm

darren you know i never dissapear when these are done.
i wish i could ._.

1: B

2: A

3: A

Posted by GFW on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 18:36pm

I want to change my answer on 3 to A.

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 02/8/2013 @ 20:21pm

1. B
2. A
3. A

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 02/9/2013 @ 02:34am

1. B
2. A
3. A

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 02/9/2013 @ 09:51am

1. B
2. A
3. A

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 02/9/2013 @ 09:51am

Oops. Double post.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 02/9/2013 @ 09:52am

B, A, A.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 02/10/2013 @ 05:48am

The voting for all three polls are nearly unanimous (10-1, 11-1, 11-1), so we can conclude the results and move on to refining the specifics.

1. We've voted to leave Voter's Choice as an option, but add official regulations to allow regular voters to disqualify a nominated VC song from VC consideration for appropriate reasons.

My first proposal would be that after a song has been nominated for VC, any regular voter (any voter who has voted previously, as we don't want some anonymous person showing up just to cause trouble) can "nominate" said song for disqualification from VC. That voter would need to offer an explanation for why that song shouldn't be considered for VC (too popular, too important, etc.). If two more regular voters support removing the song, the song is disqualified from Voter's Choice.

If anyone has an alternative VC regulation method, please post it on this board by 10 PM Central on Monday night. We'll open voting after that deadline.

2. We've voted to expand the number of songs per ballot. The lowest number that's been suggested is 7. The highest number that's been suggested is 10.

How many songs should be on the ballot for the Song Project?

A. 7
B. 8
C. 9
D. 10

Vote for one option. If one option doesn't get a majority, we'll have a run-off vote between the top two choices.

3. We've voted that Voter's Choice songs are now eligible to be nominated for the Song Project.

It's also been suggested that we have a vote among songs currently in the Voter's Choice category, with the top vote recipients being inducted into the Song Project.

Should we have a vote to elevate songs from the Voter's Choice category to the Song Project (details regarding song quantity and vote frequency TBD if we vote "Yes")?

A. Yes
B. No

Let's leave these last two polls open until 10 PM Central on Tuesday or whenever an overwhelming majority has been determined.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 02/10/2013 @ 14:03pm

1. No alternatives
2. B
3. A

Posted by John R.C. on Sunday, 02/10/2013 @ 15:25pm

1. No alternatives
2. B
3. A

Posted by Greg F on Sunday, 02/10/2013 @ 22:01pm

1. No alternatives
2. B
3. A

Posted by Paul K on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 01:00am

1. No Alternatives
2. A
3. A

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 05:54am

1. No Alternatives
2. B
3. A

Posted by BSLO on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 09:05am

1. No Alternatives, but we need to figure out a way to streamline this process during the 2 day nomination period.
2. B
3. A

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 21:56pm

My answers to the questions posed regarding the Voter's Choice selections are as follows:

1. I am pleased with the proposal Darren has given. I do not have an alternative, and indeed would be more than welcome to reconsider my own picks if needed.

2. I think 10 songs should be on the ballot every month.

3. We should have a vote to elevate songs that are Voter's Choice selections into the Song Project properly. I can think of quite a few songs that merit this elevation. In a later post, I will examine which of my picks are deserving of elevation.

Well, those are my answers. Let it be known I am well accustomed to adjust to ideas not entirley my own. I do apologize for the length of this post.

Hope this helps,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 22:00pm

There weren't any alternative ideas for the Voter's Choice regulations, so unless there are any objections, that seems like what we want to do.

Regarding the need to review Voter's Choice picks, how about we have 2 days of nominations, followed by one day to allow for review, followed by 5 days of voting?

Posted by Darren on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 23:52pm

Seconded. Adding a day for review could actually open up some more dialogue about our choices. I think that both projects have lacked that lately.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 01:42am

I have a suggestion to add to what was proposed don't allow voting for ones own choice.

Posted by Greg F on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 02:49am

I have a suggestion to add to what was proposed don't allow voting for ones own choice.

Posted by Greg F on Tuesday, 02.12.13 @ 02:49am

I really like this idea!

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 03:51am

Greg F. - That is something that has been brought up in the past, so let's put it to a vote.

1. Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

A. Yes
B. No

This poll will close at 10 PM Central on Thursday.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 07:55am

My opinions on the votes ending tonight at 10 PM:

1. D. 10 votes per ballot

2. A. Yes.

I would favor doing this as a one-time vote because Voter's Choice songs are now eligible for nominations, so a one-time vote would serve as a sort of an adjustment to deal with how Voters Choice functioned prior to this point rather than an alternative path into the Song Project through Voter's Choice in the future.

Specifics on this will be voted on starting tonight if this issue passes, which it looks like it will.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 08:01am

"1. Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

A. Yes
B. No"

Well considering I was always under the impression we couldn't, I'll vote for B. No

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 15:56pm

"1. Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

A. Yes
B. No"

I would say B.

Posted by John R.C. on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 16:00pm

b. no

Posted by Greg F on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 19:36pm

"1. Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

A. Yes
B. No"

I vote B. No

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 21:24pm

Voting update:

Completed Votes:

Q: How many songs should be on the ballot for the Song Project?

A: 8 Songs - 5, 10 Songs - 2, 7 Songs - 1

From now on, each voter will vote for 8 nominated songs per month.


Q: Should we have a vote to elevate songs from the Voter's Choice category to the Song Project?

A: Yes - 8, No - 0


Ongoing Poll (concluding on Thursday at 10):

Q: Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?


Follow-up Poll (concluding on Thursday at 10):

How often should we vote to elevate songs directly from the Voter's Choice category to the Song Project (the final follow-up poll will determine the number of songs chosen per vote)?

A. One-Time Only
B. Once A Year
C. Twice A Year (Every 6 Months)
D. More Than Twice A Year (Specify)

Also, if you're interested, don't forget to vote for the expansion of the number of albums on the ballot on the Album Project, which also closes at 10 on Thursday.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/12/2013 @ 23:08pm

Q: Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

Nope.

and B. Once a Year

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 00:04am

Once a year

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 00:15am

B, once a year.

Posted by John R.C. on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 00:36am

List typo: Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now" is listed as "Don't Stop Me Know".

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 04:28am

Questions being raised:

1. No.


2. As to the second question, I say twice a yr. (every six months). Having been the person who suggested that we work in good faith, & then having seen that faith jumped all over, I'm not sure doing it once a yr. will keep people from blatantly trying to include songs that don't belong.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 06:14am

I vote once a year. Looking through the list of Voter's Choice selections, I can see plenty of worthy songs, but with the new rules put in place, the number of Song Project-worthy songs will quickly dwindle if we go through this process too frequently. Also, since songs in Voter's Choice are now eligible to be nominated for the Song Project, there's no risk of worthy songs having to wait an excessive amount of time if they don't get voted in through this method.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 07:55am

"How often should we vote to elevate songs directly from the Voter's Choice category to the Song Project (the final follow-up poll will determine the number of songs chosen per vote)?

A. One-Time Only
B. Once A Year
C. Twice A Year (Every 6 Months)
D. More Than Twice A Year (Specify)"

I say C., twice a year. Once a year seems too little and more than twice a year seems excessive.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 08:20am

B. Once a year.

Posted by rockstar23 on Wednesday, 02/13/2013 @ 16:55pm

Vote Results:

Should voters be allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nomination?

By a 7-0 vote, we've decided that from now on, voters are not allowed to vote for their own Voter's Choice nominations.


How often should we vote to elevate songs directly from the Voter's Choice category to the Song Project?

By a 5-2 vote, we've decided that we will have one vote per year to elevate songs from Voter's Choice to the Song Project.

I propose that we have the 2013 vote in March, either at the same time or after the March Song Project vote. From that point on, the annual vote would take place in January. Sound good?

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 02/14/2013 @ 23:09pm

Final Poll (that I have anyway):

1. We've voted to have a yearly vote to elevate songs from Voter's Choice to the Song Project.

How many songs (an absolute number with tiebreaker votes) should be elevated from Voter's Choice to the Song Project each year?

A. 1
B. 2
C. 3
D. 4
E. 5
F. More Than 5

This vote will end at 10 PM Central on Saturday. I won't be able to end the vote myself, but it's a public vote, so someone should be able to tally the votes at that time.

If there isn't an absolute consensus (50% of the votes going to once choice), there will be a run-off vote between the top 2 vote-getters.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 02/14/2013 @ 23:14pm

Wait, we induct "Skyfall" for being a Shirley Bassey nostalgia piece yet we have no inducted songs from Shirley Bassey herself?

DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

Posted by rockstar23 on Friday, 02/15/2013 @ 04:36am

But, it's Adele! She saved teh muzik. She stanz there and singz so pretty.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 02/15/2013 @ 04:51am

1. We've voted to have a yearly vote to elevate songs from Voter's Choice to the Song Project.

How many songs (an absolute number with tiebreaker votes) should be elevated from Voter's Choice to the Song Project each year?

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 02.14.13 @ 23:14pm
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E. - 5

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 02/15/2013 @ 06:42am

Frankly i'm dissapointed that we still haven't got Insane Clown Posse - Miracles in yet.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 02/15/2013 @ 07:20am

For the final poll, I vote for E, 5.

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 02/15/2013 @ 10:08am

I vote C. 3 Songs

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 02/16/2013 @ 00:53am

Frankly i'm dissapointed that we still haven't got Insane Clown Posse - Miracles in yet.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 02.15.13 @ 07:20am

Get off the interwebz.


and E, 5 songs.

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 02/16/2013 @ 02:48am

I vote d,4 songs

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 02/16/2013 @ 05:48am

"Get off the interwebz."

b-but... the internets all I got!

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 02/16/2013 @ 06:10am

I did not know any voting was going on this week. Oh well. I oppose putting anything from VC into the project, and I would vote for the fewest possible number if it does come to fruition.

With these new rules, why don't we just get it over with and put all the VC songs in the damn project? So now they can be nominated anyway, and we still are going to automatically put 5 of them in the project every year? It just makes no sense.

The songs were not worthy of the project or else they would have had more support. I love the songs I've nominated myself, but not a single one of them belong in the project, and the same goes for every song on that list. They are not worthy and we shouldn't be pretending they are.

Posted by jtrichey on Sunday, 02/17/2013 @ 00:15am

e jtrichey - I agree with you on one point, I don't see why special VC elections are necessary if VC songs are eligible for nomination.

But, to say that none of them are worthy of induction because they didn't generate support is laughable. We're talking about the Song Project, which has a strong history of superficiality , historical ignorance and intellectual laziness. The problem isn't the importance of the songs, it's the voters who can't do five minutes of research to find out why something off their radar might actually be important.

Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 02/17/2013 @ 01:52am

yep, nothing in voters choice is worthy of standing amongst the giants that are Buckner & garcia, Nickelback and Linkin Park.

jesus christ man, ygsiu.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 02/17/2013 @ 07:21am

FRL,

Voter's Choice from January 2013 was never posted by Darren or you guys, so here they are now...

The Harry Simeone Chorale - "The Little Drummer Boy" (1958)
The Flamin' Groovies - "Shake Some Action" (1976)
Eduard Khil - "I am So Glad Because I Am Finally Returning Home" (1976)
Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!" (2007)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Monday, 02/18/2013 @ 12:27pm

jtrichey - I understand where you're coming from, but regardless of your individual opinion, we did vote to do this and it wasn't a narrow decision as I recall.

Here are the votes for this poll:

Greg F - 4
Paul K - 5
Darren - 3
Cheesecrop - 5
John R.C. - 5
jtrichey - 1

Since the poll was supposed to end on Saturday and no one's closed it yet, I'll close it now.

By a 3-1-1-1 vote, we've voted to have an annual vote to directly elect 5 songs (a flat five with tiebreakers if necessary, but no extensions beyond 5) from Voter's Choice to the Song Project. For 2012, this will take place in March, and will take place in January going forward.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 02/18/2013 @ 15:39pm

I'm planning to nominate a Bassey/Bond song for next month but wondering whether I should plump for Goldfinger or Diamonds are Forever. What do you guys think?

Posted by rockstar23 on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 02:58am

Any interest in these potently nominees?

Toni Braxton- Un-Break My Heart
Joan Baez- Diamonds & Rust
Lucinda Williams- Can't Let Go
Tonic- If You Could Only See

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 04:28am

I love 'Can't Let Go' by Lucinda. I'm not sure too many people know it though. Do people know this song?

Posted by jtrichey on Monday, 02/25/2013 @ 23:38pm

New rule changes (as determined by popular vote) effective March 2013:

1. Each ballot will have 8 votes (previously 5).

2. Voter's Choice inductees are eligible to be nominated for The Song Project.

3. Voters cannot vote for Voter's Choice songs that they've personally nominated during The Song Project voting.

4. Voter's Choice nominees can be disqualified from Voter's Choice consideration if one voter in good standing (having previously voted in the Song Project) protests the nomination and two other voters in good standing second and third the protest. The intial protest should contain an explanation for why the protest is being lodged. If a song is disqualified prior to the end of the two day nomination period, a replacement nomination can be made prior to the end of nominations.

5. To accomodate the changes to Voter's Choice nominations, we will now be operating on the following schedule:

2 days of nominations (the 1st and 2nd of each month)
1 day of review (the 3rd of the month)
5 days of voting (the 4th through 8th of the month)

Voting will end at 12:01 AM Central on the 9th of each month.

All non-Voter's Choice nominations are final at the end of the two-day nomination period. The day of review is in place to allow for the disqualification of Voter's Choice nominees deemed Song Project worthy.

7. We will have an annual vote to elevate 5 songs from the Voter's Choice category to be inducted into the Song Project. This vote will be conducted using the same schedule and rules as The Song Project with the following exceptions:

a. Exactly 5 songs will be elevated, with tiebreakers taking place if necessary.

b. Two days of nominations (2 per voter) will take place, beginning immediately after the final voting in the Song Project has concluded. This will be followed by 5 days of voting.

The 2012 vote will take place in March immediately following the March Song Project inductions. March 2012 Voter's Choice songs will be eligible for this process.

In future years, this elevation process will take place immediately following the January Song Project inductions.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 22:57pm

rockstar23 - Either Shirley Bassey James Bond song would have a decent chance of getting my vote this month. I'll probably be nominating a "strike while the iron is hot" Oscar song myself this month, as well as an album.

Greg F. - Toni Braxton - "Unbreak My Heart" would be an excellent choice for this project and I think it would have the best chance of the list you posted.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 23:03pm

Un-Break My Heart will get a nomination from me this month. To me this is a huge snub for 90's R&B.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 02/27/2013 @ 00:39am

I'm planning to nominate a Bassey/Bond song for next month but wondering whether I should plump for Goldfinger or Diamonds are Forever. What do you guys think?

Posted by rockstar23 on Monday, 02.25.13 @ 02:58am


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Goldfinger

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Wednesday, 02/27/2013 @ 01:09am

Which songs should I nominate? I can't really decide.
Deep Purple- Child In Time
Neil Young- Old Man
Harry Belafonte- Day-O (The Banana Boat Song)
Beastie Boys- Brass Monkey
Stevie Wonder- For Once In My Life

Posted by Ryan on Thursday, 02/28/2013 @ 15:44pm

Ryan,

I'd vote for "Child in Time", "Old Man", and "Brass Monkey", but as always depending on what else is nominated.

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 02/28/2013 @ 15:56pm

Nominations for March 2013:
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais (1978)
Mobb Deep - Shook Ones (Part II) (1995)

2012 Track: Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)

Posted by Paul K on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 01:21am

My Nominations:

Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel (2004)

2012 song:

Emmylou - First Aid Kit

If you haven't heard this song, go check it out. A modern day take on the old school Country feel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC57z-oDPLs

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 02:51am

nominations:

Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells

2012 pick: Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You

Posted by rockstar23 on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 03:44am

Gassman, you just introduced me to the best new song I've heard in at least a month. I'm most likely not going to get around to voting for it this month, but it's definitely on my radar. Good suggestion, man!

Posted by Paul K on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 04:36am

Nominations for March:

Son Volt - Drown (1995)
Split Enz - I Got You (1980)

Voter's Choice:

Stray Dog - Chevrolet (1973)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 05:58am

nominations:
The Who - Magic Bus
The Spinners - Rubberband Man

2012:
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait

Posted by jtrichey on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 09:30am

My Nominations:

Madonna- Express Yourself
Justin Timberlake- Cry Me A River

2012 nomination:

Usher- Climax

Posted by Zoltan on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 09:39am

My Nominations:

Joni Mitchell - California (1971)
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrakesh Express (1969)

2012 pick:
Phillip Phillips - Home

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 10:14am

My Nomiations:
Bee Gees- Night Fever(1978)
Neil Young- Old Man(1972)
2012 Pick:
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop

Posted by Ryan on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 10:55am

Nominations for March:

PJ Harvey- Down By The Water
Janet Jackson- Love Will Never Do (Without You)

2012 nomination:
Pink- Try

Posted by Mike on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 11:34am

jtrichey, "Rubberband Man" is already inducted. Choose another!

Posted by Paul K on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 11:59am

nominations:

Blur - Coffee & TV
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack

Posted by akeem on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 12:23pm

Nominations:

Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Billy Squier - The Stroke

Posted by BSLO on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 12:31pm

Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Pavement - Gold Soundz

2012:
Grimes - Oblivion

Posted by GFW on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 13:17pm

Nominations:

Toni Braxton- Un-Break My Heart (1996)
Lowell Fulson- Reconsider Baby (1954)

2012 Pick:

The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 17:38pm

My nominations:

Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - "Falling Slowly" - The Oscar-winning song from the movie "Once":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8mtXwtapX4

Stephen Stills - "Love The One You're With"


2012 Nominee:

fun. - "Some Nights"

Posted by Darren on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 20:55pm

Here are my nominations for the Song Project Class of March 2039. One of these songs relates to what I have nominated in the Album Project this month. The other is one of the more influential guitar performances I have heard.


Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You?
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover

And now for my 2012 pick. I do believe this song liste dherein was completed in 2012, as opposed to becoming a hit in 2012. Yet, I was floored when I first heard this and consider it more deep than most hits out there today.


Drake and Rihanna - Take Care

If you have not heard this collaboration, I suggest ffellow posters hear it. As an aside, although a month late in response: GFW, I am indeed a fan of Todd Nathanson aka Todd In The Shadows. Interesting how a web series can alter one's opinion of the current pop scene as it has mine.

No Voter's Choice from me for this month,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 22:13pm

Lax30 - Sorry, but the album that song is on, "Take Care", was released on November 15th, 2011, so it's not eligible to be nominated as a 2012 song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Care_%28album%29

Posted by Darren on Friday, 03/1/2013 @ 23:00pm

My nominations for March 2013/2038 induction into The Song Project...

E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
Fanny - Butter Boy (1974)

2012

Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return

Voter's Choice

The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle (1985)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 03/2/2013 @ 00:16am

Ah, I thought as such, given your comment on Lights and aliens.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 03/2/2013 @ 08:58am

Stephen Stills - "Love The One You're With"

Posted by Darren on Friday, 03.1.13 @ 20:55pm

This song hasn't been inducted yet? Huge omission!

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 03/2/2013 @ 17:10pm

Nominations for March 2013 are now closed. Here are the nominees:

Billy Squier - The Stroke
Blur - Coffee & TV
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrakesh Express
Drake feat. Rihanna - Take Care
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You?
Fanny - Butter Boy
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
First Aid Kit - Emmylou
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
fun. - Some Nights
Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Grimes - Oblivion
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Joni Mitchell - California
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop
Madonna - Express Yourself
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack
Mobb Depp - Shook Ones (Part II)
Mumford And Sons - I Will Wait
Neil Young - Old Man
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water
Pavement - Gold Soundz
Phillip Phillips - Home
Pink - Try
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
Son Volt - Drown
Split Enz - I Got You
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made The Radio
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Who - Magic Bus
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart
Usher - Climax


The following songs are under consideration as Voter's Choice nominees:

Stray Dog - Chevrolet
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle

The next day will be for reviewing the Voter's Choice nominees (even though there are only two this month...), so if anyone feels that either song shouldn't be a Voter's Choice candidate, please point it out and give an explanation.

Voting will start on Monday.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 03:07am

Grimes - Oblivion
Drake Ft. Rihanna - Take Care
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Pavement - Gold Soundz
First Aid Kit - Emmylou

I'll be more than willing to switch one of these out for Kendrick Lamar or Usher.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 08:41am

Gah, missed the nominations! OK here goes, my vote:

Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
The Bee Gees - Night Fever

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 09:55am

Don't forget, you guys get eight nominations!

Posted by Paul K on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 11:02am

>8 votes

AWWWYEAAHHH

Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Usher - Climax
Blur - Coffee And TV

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 11:16am

Technically we don't start voting until tomorrow. We have one day after nominations to make sure we have time to review the Voter's Choice nominations. I realize that this seems pointless since there are only two nominees this month, but we voted to keep and regulate the Voter's Choice category and obviously we expected to have more than two per month.

That being said, any votes already posted will be counted. Just remember, everyone gets 8 votes from now on and you can't vote for your own Voter's Choice nomination. Also, voting will end at 12:01 AM on the 9th instead of the 8th from now on.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 12:49pm

Also, I mistakenly included "Take Care" by Drake feat. Rihanna. It was nominated as a 2012 song, but it was released in 2011. I notified Lax30 of this, but I didn't remove it from my list of eligible songs.

GFW, please choose a replacement song from the ballot.

Tahvo, you have 3 more votes to use as a result of the expansion of the ballot.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 12:57pm

oh poo.

Replace that with a vote for Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 13:27pm

I'm voting early, please and thank you:


Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Joni Mitchell - California
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Neil Young - Old Man
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Who - Magic Bus

Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 13:36pm

After the conclusion of the artist re-ranking project on the Rankings messageboard (http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Revisited_Projected_Rankings.php) and the ranking of the artists that were voted into the Blind Ballot project that aren't in the Projected project yet, we'll be attempting a project to rank the songs that have been voted into the Song Project.

We're currently gathering opinions on the methods and specific details for how this project will be conducted (hence the purpose of this post).

First of all, in an effort to compare apples to apples and make song comparisons easier, the inducted songs will be separated chronologically into the following groups:

Pre-1960 (211 Eligible Songs, including Early Influence inductees)
1960-1969 (404 Songs)
1970-1979 (529 Songs)
1980-1989 (377 Songs)
1990-1999 (259 Songs)
2000-2012 (152 Songs)

New songs will be added to the eligible lists as they're inducted.

The inducted songs and the year that they were released is at the top of this page. If you see an error that could change what decade a song is supposed to be in, please point it out.

We'll be using the nomination / voting / final voting method that's worked so well (in my opinion) in the artist re-ranking project.

The number of nominations per category and the number of songs voted in per round has yet to be determined. We also need to determine how many of the songs we'll rank from each category and whether or not we'll do one category per week or multiple categories per week.

My initial opinion is to have 50 nominations for the 3 smallest categories and 100 nominations for the 3 largest categories. The number of songs per round would depend on the number of songs being ranked total. If we decide to stop after ranking the top 100 songs from each category, I would recommend 10 rounds of ranking 10 songs at a time. If we rank more than 100 songs, I would still stick with 10 songs per round for the first 10 rounds, expanding to 25 per round after that point. I have no preference for how many categories we rank per week, but I wouldn't want to do all 6 at the same time.

After the decade rankings are complete, an overall top 100 list would be created by having a one or two day vote (with tiebreakers) involving the top-ranked song in each category (the first vote would feature the #1 song in each of the 6 categories).

I'm available to tally the votes and post the results, but no matter how we decide to do this project, it will be conducted over a significant period of time. Living in South Dakota, I travel significantly more in the spring, summer and fall than in the winter, when the artist re-ranking project has taken place. When I'm away from my home computer, I'm unable to keep track of or post results, so I'll need several of the regular contributors to the site who are interested in this project to help keep things on the weekly schedule that has worked so well. The score-keeping will be done in an Excel spreadsheet that I'll send out every week to participants who want to help (or just keep track of the progress).

Let me know what you guys think would be the best way to run this project and if you'd be interested in helping out with the management of the project along with myself and Gassman.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/3/2013 @ 20:45pm

There weren't any objections to the Voter's Choice nominees this month.

Here are the nominees for March 2013:

Billy Squier - The Stroke
Blur - Coffee & TV
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrakesh Express
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You?
Fanny - Butter Boy
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
First Aid Kit - Emmylou
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
fun. - Some Nights
Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Grimes - Oblivion
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Joni Mitchell - California
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop
Madonna - Express Yourself
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack
Mobb Depp - Shook Ones (Part II)
Mumford And Sons - I Will Wait
Neil Young - Old Man
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water
Pavement - Gold Soundz
Phillip Phillips - Home
Pink - Try
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
Son Volt - Drown
Split Enz - I Got You
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
Stray Dog - Chevrolet
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made The Radio
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
The Who - Magic Bus
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart
Usher - Climax


Voting is now open.

The ballot has been expanded, so now each voter can vote for 8 songs each month.

Voters can't vote for their own Voter's Choice nominations.

Any votes that have already been cast will be counted.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 01:07am

Voting will end at 12:01 AM on the 9th.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 01:10am

Fanny- Butter Boy (1974)
Toni Braxton- Un-Break My Heart (1996)
Lowell Fulson- Reconsider Baby (1954)
The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio (2012)
Stephen Stills- Love the One You're With (1970)
Split Enz- I Got You (1980)
Old Crow Medicine Show- Wagon Wheel (2004)
Pavement- Gold Soundz (1994)

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 01:27am

My votes:

Madonna- Express Yourself
Justin Timberlake- Cry Me A River
Usher- Climax
Mumford and Sons- I Will Wait
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe
The Who- Magic Bus
Neil Young- Old Man
Shirley Bassey- Diamonds Are Forever

Posted by Zoltan on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 01:47am

Decided to go 2012 heavy:

1. First Aid Kit - Emmylou
2. Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
3. Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
4. Grimes - Oblivion
5. Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
6. Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
7. Pavement - Gold Soundz
8. Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 01:47am

Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
Joni Mitchell - California
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Mobb Deep - Shook Ones (Part II)
Neil Young - Old Man
Pavement - Gold Soundz

Posted by Paul K on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 02:06am

Song Votes for March:

Blur - Coffee & TV
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)

Son Volt - Drown
Split Enz - I Got You
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Who - Magic Bus

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 06:01am

We're currently gathering opinions on the methods and specific details for how this project will be conducted (hence the purpose of this post).

First of all, in an effort to compare apples to apples and make song comparisons easier, the inducted songs will be separated chronologically into the following groups:

Pre-1960 (211 Eligible Songs, including Early Influence inductees)
1960-1969 (404 Songs)
1970-1979 (529 Songs)
1980-1989 (377 Songs)
1990-1999 (259 Songs)
2000-2012 (152 Songs)

New songs will be added to the eligible lists as they're inducted.

The inducted songs and the year that they were released is at the top of this page. If you see an error that could change what decade a song is supposed to be in, please point it out.

We'll be using the nomination / voting / final voting method that's worked so well (in my opinion) in the artist re-ranking project.

The number of nominations per category and the number of songs voted in per round has yet to be determined. We also need to determine how many of the songs we'll rank from each category and whether or not we'll do one category per week or multiple categories per week.

My initial opinion is to have 50 nominations for the 3 smallest categories and 100 nominations for the 3 largest categories. The number of songs per round would depend on the number of songs being ranked total. If we decide to stop after ranking the top 100 songs from each category, I would recommend 10 rounds of ranking 10 songs at a time. If we rank more than 100 songs, I would still stick with 10 songs per round for the first 10 rounds, expanding to 25 per round after that point. I have no preference for how many categories we rank per week, but I wouldn't want to do all 6 at the same time.

After the decade rankings are complete, an overall top 100 list would be created by having a one or two day vote (with tiebreakers) involving the top-ranked song in each category (the first vote would feature the #1 song in each of the 6 categories).

etc., etc., on down

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03.3.13 @ 20:45pm
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Several months ago, when this was first brought up, I suggested we rank the top 100 in each decade. I say that each decade should be given equal status. Not only is it fair, but you have no clue how many more songs will be added to each decade before these rankings begin. Please think about it.

If you want to go about doing it right, may I make a suggestion. Since there has to be a cut-off point for a project this size, I'd temporarily suspend the monthly voting. No matter how many songs are being ranked, this is a Large Scale, Long Term Project - even using your own calculations :)

I'd like to suggest breaking it down into little bits. If you recall, when we first did the Song Project, we were voting in 25 Songs per Month, out of 35. If you were to take each decade, break it down to 25 songs each wk., in a months time you'd have 100 songs. Do this for 6 months, and you'll have 600 songs, 100 for each decade.

Do not attempt to complete every last ranking at the end of the month. Rather, after you have the 100 songs for each decade, Then go back and rank them. The Project would take a full year to complete, but you'd be saving yourself a lot of chaos in the process.

No matter what option you choose, this is going to take a Long time. However, I'm up for it. Pleas think about what I wrote here. It Is a viable way of doing this. I do ask that you even out the project (100 songs for each decade - please). :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 06:46am

My votes:

LL Cool J - Rock The Bells
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water
Pink - Try
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
Split Enz - I Got You
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart

Posted by Mike on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 09:08am

Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
fun. - Some Nights
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Neil Young - Old Man
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Who - Magic Bus
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart

Lots of good nominations this round, so I skipped both of mine. I agree that Love the One You're With is a snub. I nominated it a long way back (I think in one of the last rounds of the original project), and totally forgot that it hadn't been inducted. Good job at noticing the omission Darren!

Posted by BSLO on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 09:55am

My Votes:

Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrekesh Express
Bee Gees - Night Fever
Eurythmics - Would I Ever Lie to You
fun. - Some Nights
Joni Mitchell - California
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
Neil Young - Old Man
The Who - Magic Bus

Posted by John R.C. on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 10:04am

Paul & Darren, thanks guys.

Darren, in that case my complete ballot is as follows:

Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Who - Magic Bus

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 13:18pm

LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Frank Ocean -Thinkin' Bout You
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds Are Forever
Macklemore - Thrift Shop
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me a River
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart
Madonna - Express Yourself
Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly

Posted by rockstar23 on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 14:39pm

Bee Gees- Night Fever
Neil Young- Old Man
Macklemore- Thrift Shop
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
The Who - Magic Bus
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart

Posted by Ryan on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 18:58pm

Here is my ballot for the Song Project class of March 2039. I must say this is one of the better months for nominees, and I am pleased my two main picks have been given the consideration most deserved. Here then is my ballot for all to see.


Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You?
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Neil Young - Old Man
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock And Roll Is King
The Who - Magic Bus
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Split Enz - I Got You

It is a bit different in voting than I usually take. The first six are quite obvious in my approach to nominees. Regarding Carly Rae Jepsen: sure, the lyrics are basic love story fodder, not to mention Call Me Maybe sounds a bit like the English Beat's I Confess (do a hearing comparison). Yet, it is better than I Confess, Jepsen has a good ear for hooks and emotions, and I do happen to like the tinge of uncertainty in the outcome.

Regarding Split Enz: I have mentioned in the Projected Rock Hall page an idea of possibly inducting Neil Finn for the Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Class of 2029. As it stands, I am likely to include Finn on my ballot in a few months time. What better way to get the ball rolling than to induct Neil Finn's second biggest hit song in the US at least.

Wosh eht ot emoclew (and again...),

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 21:05pm

Cheesecrop: Thanks for giving your views on doing Song rankings.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on the post that Darren made yesterday? We've been working on this behind the scenes for a while and we want to know what the voting body's thoughts are in the matter.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 03/4/2013 @ 22:29pm

Cheesecrop:

I agree with you on the matter of the top 100 songs from each decade. Not only does it keep all things equal between the decades (or extended decades, to include material prior to 1950 and after 2009), but it would help to keep interest levels high by "keeping it elite", so to speak.

I don't like the idea of stopping the Song Project, though. The project currently has a forward momentum going for it and we've still have more than enough eligible songs to keep the quality of the induction classes from slipping for a long time. If it were to stop for a year and then try to restart, I think some of the participants who aren't interested in the ranking project would lose interest in the Song Project. Also, it wouldn't be fair to songs from 2012, which wouldn't get a full opportunity to get voted in during the first 6 months of the new year.

Your suggestion of having the Top 100 be determined as an unranked list of "qualified songs" has caused me to re-think the methodology of the project.

Instead of coming up with a ranked list for each decade and then coming up with the overall list, why not figure out what the 100 (unranked) songs are for each decade, rank the top 100 songs overall based on that pool of qualified songs and then rank the remaining songs from each decade?

Here's how that would work:

From the list of inducted songs from each decade, everyone could nominate 5 songs. We would then vote original Song Project style for the first group of 25 songs to be qualified from that decade. I would say that we have tiebreakers to keep it at a hard 25 per vote. Repeat this process 4 times and you have your 100 for the decade.

Since there are 6 decades total, this would take approx. 6 months if we did one decade at at time, 3 months if we did 2 decades at a time or 2 months if we did 3 decades at a time.

With the 600 qualified songs determined, we could set about ranking the top 100 songs overall. I would recommend that we use the nominations method from the album ranking and performer re-ranking project to get a list of nominees and then rank those nominations in 10 weekly rounds of 10 songs at a time. I would choose 10 at a time because I think keeping the rankings at a low number would lead to the best results.

With 100 of the 600 songs already ranked, we would then rank the remaining 500 songs in their respective decade and have a Top 100 overall and a Top 100 for each decade.

2, 3 or 6 months to determine the songs that comprise the top 100 from each decade.

10 weeks to rank the top 100 overall.

500 remaining songs to rank. We could do more than one decade per week or more than 10 songs per round to increase the speed if we decided to do that.

I think that would work better than my previously stated method.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 00:00am

Song Project housekeeping:

GFW - You still have a replacement vote for "Take Care" by Drake, which wasn't eligible because it was nominated as a 2012 song, but was released in 2011. Just wanted to make sure that didn't get buried on the board.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 00:02am

Darren's battle plan for the Song Rankings project sounds good.

-Postponing the Song Project for ANY period of time is an absolute no-go. Evolving this hall should always be priority; ranking them should come second, as much as I support the idea.

I say make it a six-month project (one month per decade) to ensure quality control and to keep it from being overwhelming. I think the numbers (100 per decade, 25 at a time) is good.

Speaking of overwhelming, I think the most important thing to me, and I can't stress this enough, is having a separate page for the Song Ranking Project from this page. I think having all of that activity combined with our regular monthly addition of songs is not only too convoluted for us regulars, but might scare away any potential confused new voters we could pick up over the course of the year. But definitely a separate page. It makes sense anyway, as everyone can keep this project open in one tab to view all of the eligible songs, and have the Ranking Discussion page open in another to post their comments.

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 01:23am

Paul K - The Song Ranking Project will be conducted on the Rankings page where the Artist Re-Ranking is currently taking place. The only reason I posted these posts here when I did was to maximize the audience and let people know what we had in the works.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 01:51am

Darren's battle plan for the Song Rankings project sounds good.

-Postponing the Song Project for ANY period of time is an absolute no-go. Evolving this hall should always be priority; ranking them should come second, as much as I support the idea.

Posted by Paul K on Tuesday, 03.5.13 @ 01:23am
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I have no problem w/continuing the basic monthly inductions whatsoever. My only concern was that we might vote on a song while the project was going on, & it would be ineligible if we passed the decade in question. An example:

Right now, "Night Fever" is up for song induction. Let's say it doesn't make the cut this round, & we continue on. We start the project, roll through the decades, & zoom past the 70's. Then, while we're in the mid-80's portion, the basic monthly voting comes up - & "Night Fever" gets in. There's no way to go back, presumably, if a group here thinks it's one of the best songs from the 70's.

I was under the impression that there should be some sort of cutoff. If nobody has a problem w/this, though, then I've no problem w/it either. I'll roll w/the punches here. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 06:19am

Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack
Blur - Coffee & TV
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
Madonna - Express Yourself

Posted by akeem on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 08:24am

I thought i said Cliffs OF Dover as a replacement vote?

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 11:03am

GFW - Yep, you did. I missed it. Sorry about that.

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 13:19pm

I think you guys are on the right track as far as making it decade specific. I know that I've been critical and confrontational more than usual lately, but I'm really irritated by the demographic tilt that the artists rankings are taking this year. The 50s and 80s did happen. So did R&B.

It's also really unmanageable otherwise. I like the shape that it's taking. I had zero interest in this project, but if we go decade specific you have my attention.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 13:45pm

Blur - Coffee & TV
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do Without You
Joni Mitchell - California
Macklemore - Thrift Shop
Son Volt - Drown
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever

Posted by Scott Banks on Tuesday, 03/5/2013 @ 14:16pm

Billy Squier - The Stroke
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Mumford And Sons - I Will Wait
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
The Who - Magic Bus

Posted by jtrichey on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 00:01am

My Votes:

Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
fun. - Some Nights
Madonna - Express Yourself
Pavement - Gold Soundz
Mumford And Sons - I Will Wait
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)
Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever

Just Missed:

Didn't need my vote (I assume):

The Who - Magic Bus
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
Neil Young - Old Man

Would have my vote with more support:

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water
Son Volt - Drown

2012 Nominees I would support:

Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
First Aid Kit - Emmylou

Phillip Phillips - Home - Dave Matthews Band rules! lol A great song, but that whole album sounds like a DMB cover band...

Grimes - Oblivion
Blur - Coffee & TV
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made The Radio

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop - Kind of borderline, though. The horns and the chorus are excellent, but I'm not sure this will be a song we'll consider Hall-worthy a year from now.

Misc.:

Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) - A great song, but we're getting a little over the top with all the Janet Jackson songs. 8 so far, this would be 9. In my opinion, "Express Yourself" is a better song than all 9.

Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King

Billy Squier - The Stroke - Trashy, but solid. Billy Squier is under-rated.

Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You?

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 00:57am

Cheesecrop - I get what you're saying about songs being inducted down the road that belong in the Top 100, but I think that 2000-2012 is the only decade where this will be an issue and we could re-do that list on a regular basis if we thought it was needed.

Having done favorite songs lists of my own in the past, I know that the top 100 fills up faster than you'd think. #100 the last two times I made my own list were The Cure - "Just Like Heaven" and Queen - "Another One Bites The Dust", so any song that cracks the top 100 would have to be better than those standards. How many new songs have came out in the last 5 years that you think would belong in the top 100 of all-time? "Rollin' In The Deep", maybe.

As for the decade by decade, I think we've done a pretty thorough job of getting the absolute best songs from each decade in already. Look at the best songs from this month. You mentioned "Night Fever", for starters. It's definitely an oversight, but I don't think it makes the top 100 for the 70's. The same goes for "Love The One You're With", which should come close in the 70's and "Magic Bus", which faces a lot of competition in the 60's. Each individual voter might have a few songs that haven't been voted in yet that belong in a top 100 for a decade, but it's not like that there are many consensus picks still waiting. After all, if we all agreed a song was that good, we'd have voted it in by now, right?

DarinRG - Splitting songs up by decade was a good solution to a problem that we rank into with the album ranking project where there were simply too many options to select from, a problem that is multiplied several times over with songs.

The results of the artists rankings are a reflection of who's participating and how much they participate in nominations and voting. If we had a sample of 1000 random music fans from a variety of demographics, the results would probably be more representative of an overall consensus, but that's not an accurate reflection of our participants. Other than a few hip hop artists being under-rated and the second tier of 80's alternative getting the shaft (although as someone once pointed out, Husker Du was always great, but they were never popular), I think the overall results were pretty solid.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 01:33am

Couple points I'd like to make on the song ranking project:

- I would prefer to keep songs from 2010 to the present out of the 2000's group. I would like to think that in 2020 we could go about and do a top 100 for the 2010's.
- Does anyone else think that 100 is not enough songs for some decades? I'm thinking that especially for the 60's and 70's it will be tough to narrow it down to 100 songs.
- I would at the end like to use our decade lists to come up with an overall list. We still need to figure out a way to do this so that all are lists are consistent.

Thoughts?

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 04:11am

Two things:

First, Darren - In relation to everything you said - Groovy. :)

Second -

Couple points I'd like to make on the song ranking project:

- I would prefer to keep songs from 2010 to the present out of the 2000's group. I would like to think that in 2020 we could go about and do a top 100 for the 2010's.
- Does anyone else think that 100 is not enough songs for some decades? I'm thinking that especially for the 60's and 70's it will be tough to narrow it down to 100 songs.

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 03.6.13 @ 04:11am
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If you wish to cut off at 2009, that's cool.

I'd suggest holding the line at 100 songs for each decade. In a way, the post above yours says it all. Darren spelled it out when he responded to me regarding "Night Fever". Outside of the 50's, 90's, and 00's, where were still running into those "how did we miss that one!"-type songs (on occasion) most of the potentil 100 are probably sitting there already. It'll be tough to narrow, but I'm willing to bet (suprisingly enough) that we'll have the same issues w/All of the decades, at least around the fringes.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 07:00am

I'm going to echo Cheesecrop's thoughts here. Keep it at 100 per decade and cutoff at 2009.

It will definitely be tough to narrow down the 60's and 70's, but I think it makes sense to keep things consistent.

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 11:28am

Madonna - Express Yourself
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
The Who - Magic Bus
Joni Mitchell - California
Carly Rae Jepson - Call Me Maybe
Pink - Try
The Bee Gees - Night Fever
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)

Posted by Mel on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 14:32pm

The Who- Magic Bus 10
Bee Gees - Night Fever 10
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald 8
Neil Young- Old Man 7
Stephen Stills- Love the One You're With (1970) 7

Shirley Bassey- Diamonds Are Forever 6
Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover 6
Justin Timberlake- Cry Me A River 6
LL Cool J - Rock The Bells 6

Toni Braxton- Un-Break My Heart (1996) 5
Mumford and Sons- I Will Wait 5
Pavement- Gold Soundz (1994) 5
Madonna- Express Yourself 5
Joni Mitchell - California 5

Split Enz- I Got You (1980) 4
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis ft. Wanz - Thrift Shop 4
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) 4
Blur - Coffee & TV 4
Old Crow Medicine Show- Wagon Wheel (2004) 4
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) 4

Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You 3
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now 3
fun. - Some Nights 3
Carly Rae Jepsen- Call Me Maybe 3

Lowell Fulson- Reconsider Baby (1954) 2
Eurythmics - Would I Ever Lie to You 2
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King 2
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack 2
Son Volt - Drown 2
Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly 2
Usher- Climax 2
First Aid Kit - Emmylou 2
Grimes - Oblivion 2
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais 2
Pink - Try 2

Fanny- Butter Boy (1974)
The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio (2012)
Split Enz- I Got You (1980)
Mobb Deep - Shook Ones (Part II)
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrekesh Express
Billy Squier - The Stroke

I honestly don't get why Magic Bus has so many votes but whatevs.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 15:56pm

For the monthly Song Project voting:

Is there a tabulation mistake here? The song "I Got You" from Split Enz is listed as having 4 votes.

At the same time, it is listed a second time, along w/a bunch of songs that appear to only have one vote.

Does the song have 4 votes, or 5? I would appreciate a recount, if possible. :)

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 16:49pm

4 votes (why I do these when i'm the worst one at it I don't know)

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 17:16pm

Cheesecrop/Gassman - I agree with cutting off the 2000's songs at 2009. If we spread this out over six months, that's plenty of time to get in any potential stragglers from that decade that deserve to get in the Top 100. In general though, I agree with Cheese; most of the potential Top 100 songs are probably already inducted. Maybe we wait until May and squeeze in one more month of eligible songs for good measure? That way if anyone wants to squeeze in any great 50's and 60's tracks just to feel comfortable, they have a proper chance to do so. :)

Conversely, we could have a "special vote" after our regular class each month, but before we start the Rankings, where only songs from the decade we are about to rank our eligible. That way we could squeeze in an extra flat five?

Also, please swap my vote from "Shook Ones (Part II)" to "Cry Me a River".

Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 19:12pm

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais

Joni Mitchell - California

Eric Johnson - Cliffs of Dover

Pavement - Gold Soundz

Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait

Posted by Alec on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 19:25pm

Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll is King
Usher - Climax
Martha & the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made the Radio
Joni Mitchell - California
Spilt Enz - I Got You
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' About You
Billy Squier - The Stroke

Posted by Robert on Wednesday, 03/6/2013 @ 23:35pm

Gassman - We could exclude the (so far) 12 songs inducted from 2010-2012, leaving 140 for 2000-2009. The positive aspect of doing this would be that it would eliminate the concerns that recent songs are over-rated due to lack of perspective. The negative aspect of doing this is that we'd have to wait 6 years to find out where those songs rank in our opinions.

In my opinion, 2010-2012 songs, if they're not lumped with 2000-2009 songs, should be eligible for the overall rankings. In order to get ranked, these songs would still have to go through the nomination process, but if someone thinks "Rollin' In The Deep" or "F*** You" belong in the top 100 songs of all time, they should have the chance to vote for it.

I'll be posting an updated version of the project plan that will address how to keep the lists consistent.


Paul K - If we want to have special decade-specific classes to make sure we don't miss any songs, that would be fine by me.


Alec - You have three more votes. The ballot was expanded from 5 to 8.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 00:35am

Here is my current vote count, updated through Paul's vote switch and Robert's vote:

The Who - Magic Bus - 10

The Bee Gees - Night Fever - 9

Joni Mitchell - California - 7
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With - 7
Neil Young - Old Man - 7
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - 7
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Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover - 6
Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River - 6
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever - 6
Pavement - Gold Soundz - 6
Mumford And Sons - I Will Wait - 6
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells - 6
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart - 6

Madonna - Express Yourself - 5
Split Enz - I Got You - 5

Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe - 4
Blur - Coffee & TV - 4
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) - 4
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) - 4
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You - 4
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop - 4

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 3
Usher - Climax - 3
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack - 3
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now - 3
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King - 3
fun. - Some Nights - 3
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel - 3

Son Volt - Drown - 2
First Aid Kit - Emmylou - 2
Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly - 2
Grimes - Oblivion - 2
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby - 2
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made The Radio - 2
Billy Squier - The Stroke - 2
Pink - Try - 2
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You? - 2

Fanny - Butter Boy - 1
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water - 1
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrakesh Express - 1

Stray Dog - Chevrolet - 0
Phillip Phillips - Home - 0
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return - 0
Mobb Depp - Shook Ones (Part II) - 0
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle - 0

Let me know if my count is off on any songs.

Voting closes at 12:01 AM on the 9th.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 00:40am

Here's an updated version of how we might conduct the song rankings project:

Phase 1 - Determine the top 100 songs for each group.

Eligible songs are divided into the following chronological groups:

Pre-1960
1960-1969
1970-1979
1980-1989
1990-1999
2000-2009 (or 2012, end date TBD)

Voters would nominate 5 songs from the group currently under evaluation (going in chronological order).

From the list of nominees, each voter would be allowed to vote for 25 nominated songs.

The 25 songs that get the most votes are qualified for the decade top 100 and the overall top 100. Tiebreakers will be conducted if necessary.

This process will be repeated 4 times until the top 100 for the group is determined. This would be an unranked list for the time being, but will eventually be ranked.

This overall process will be completed for all 6 groups. If we stick with a weekly schedule, this will take 24 weeks.


Phase 2 - Determine the Overall Top 100 Songs.

From the pool of 600 qualified songs (I think songs from 2010 on should also be considered for the top 100 overall if they aren't included in the final group), each voter would submit a list of 100 nominees (we may want more than 100 nominees).

The songs that are nominated the most will be placed on a ballot. Each voter will then vote for the top 15/20/25 songs on the ballot (ballot size is yet to be determined), ranked in desecending order, in the same manner as the artist re-ranking project.

The top 10 highest-ranking songs (after tiebreakers if necessary) will advance to a final ranking process where voters will rank those 10 songs. The results of this final ranking will be the overall rankings.

This process will be repeated 10 times over the course of 10 weeks to get the overall top 100 songs.


Phase 3 - Filling out the group rankings.

Based on the logic that if one song ranks higher than another in the overall rankings they must rank higher in the group rankings as well, once the overall rankings are complete, 100 songs are already ranked in their respective groups. If, for example, "Pac-Man Fever" is voted the #1 song of all-time, it's also the #1 song for 1980-1989.

The remainder of the project would involve ranking the remaining 500 songs in their respective groups, which we could do a number of ways. Since the songs have already been qualified as members of the top 100 for their group, we could probably skip any nomination process and just rank the remaining eligible songs 10 (or 15 or 20 or 25) at a time until all songs are ranked. If we decide not to include the 2010-12 songs with the 2000-2009 songs, we could also have a vote to rank these songs.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 00:49am

Stephen Stills - Love the One You're With (1970)
Fanny - Butter Boy (1974)
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)
Bee Gees - Night Fever (1977)
E.L.O. - Rock 'n' Roll Is King (1983)
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You? (1985)
Eric Johnson - Cliffs of Dover (1990)
Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return(2012)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 02:19am

FYI - After the completion of the March Song Project voting / tiebreaking (if necessary), we'll be conducting the vote to elevate 5 songs from Voter's Choice to the Song Project. This will start with 2 days of nominations (current Voter's Choice songs only, including the two songs added this month), followed by 5 days of voting with a tiebreaker following if necessary.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 13:34pm

The Bee Gees - Night Fever
Neil Young - Old Man
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds are Forever
Pavement - Gold Soundz
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells
Blur - Coffee & TV
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You
The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 22:45pm

Voting update as of Rick and DarinRG... look how many songs need one vote swap to push them over the edge. Strategize, guys! :D

Bee Gees - Night Fever - 11

The Who - Magic Bus - 10

Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - 8
Neil Young - Old Man - 8
Stephen Stills - Love the One You're With - 8

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Eric Johnson - Cliffs of Dover - 7
Joni Mitchell - California - 7
LL Cool J - Rock the Bells - 7
Pavement - Gold Soundz - 7
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds Are Forever - 7
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Justin Timberlake - Cry Me a River - 6
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait - 6
Toni Braxton - Un-Break My Heart - 6

Blur - Coffee & TV - 5
Frank Ocean - Thinkin' Bout You - 5
Madonna - Express Yourself - 5
Split Enz - I Got You - 5

The Clash - (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - 4
Electric Light Orchestra - Rock 'n' Roll Is King - 4
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe - 4
Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You) - 4
Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank) - 4
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - Thrift Shop - 4

Usher - Climax - 3
Martha and the Vandellas - Jimmy Mack - 3
Fatboy Slim - Right Here, Right Now - 3
fun. - Some Nights - 3
Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel - 3
Eurythmics - Would I Lie To You? - 3

Fanny - Butter Boy - 2
Son Volt - Drown - 2
First Aid Kit - Emmylou - 2
Glen Hansard And Marketa Irglova - Falling Slowly - 2
Grimes - Oblivion - 2
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby - 2
The Beach Boys - That's Why God Made The Radio - 2
Billy Squier - The Stroke - 2
Pink - Try - 2

Electric Light Orchestra - Point of No Return - 1
P.J. Harvey - Down By The Water - 1
Crosby, Stills & Nash - Marrakesh Express - 1

Stray Dog - Chevrolet - 0
Phillip Phillips - Home - 0
Mobb Depp - Shook Ones (Part II) - 0
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle - 0

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 23:36pm

I'm changing my vote for "Falling Slowly" to Joni Mitchell - "California".

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 00:37am

Voting is closed.

Here is the class of March 2013:

The Bee Gees - Night Fever
The Who - Magic Bus
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Neil Young - Old Man
Joni Mitchell - California

In addition, the following songs have been added to the Voter's Choice category:

Stray Dog - Chevrolet
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 01:01am

Nominations are now open for the 5 Voter's Choice songs that will be elevated to the Song Project for 2012.

Each user can nominate 2 Voter's Choice songs from the following list:

Admiral Fallow - Squealing Pigs
Andrew Jackson Jihad - American Tune
Angelfish - Suffocate Me
Back Street Band - This Ain't The Road
Baltimora - Tarzan Boy
Barclay James Harvest - Hymn
Basement Jaxx - Do Your Thing
Be Your Own Pet - Becky
Big Audio Dynamite - Mr. Walker Said
Billy Hall - Headin' For The River
Black Lab - Wash It Away
Brad - Circle and Line
Bruce Haack - Super Nova
Buffalo - I'm a Skirt Lifter, Not a Shirt Raiser
Camel - Lady Fantasy
Candy Graham - Cry a Little Tear (For Me)
Cashman & West - American City Suite
Chris De Burgh - Don't Pay the Ferryman
Christian Death - Spiritual Cramp
Crowbar - Oh What A Feeling
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You
Dead Can Dance - American Dreaming
Eat - Tranquillliser
Eduard Khil - I am So Glad Because I Am Finally Returning Home
Edward Sharpe And The Magnetic Zeros - Home
Elis - Der Lutzke Tag
Eric Anderson - Violets of Dawn
Eugenio Lo Gullo - Country Banjo Show
Fishcherspooner - Emerge
Flinch - Faking
Frank Black - Headache
Gary Burton - Vibrafinger
Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
Guitar Wolf - U.F.O. Romantics
Hello Saferide - Anna
I Mother Earth - One More Astronaut
Idlewild - You Held The World In Your Arms
I'm from Barcelona - The Painter
Japandroids - Younger Us
Jellyfish - Baby's Coming Back
Jump 'N the Saddle Band - The Curly Shuffle
Kim Mitchell - Go for a Soda
King's X - Out of the Silent Planet
k-os feat. Saukrates & Nelly Furtado - I Wish I Knew Natalie Portman
L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence
Le Tigre - Deceptacon
Lonnie Donegan - Rock Island Line
Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing!
Maxi, Dick and Twink - Things You Hear About Me
Mazinga Phaser - Diamond In Shrink Wrap
Meat Puppets - Plateau
Metric - Help I'm Alive
Mike Doughty - Looking At The World From The Bottom Of A Well
Murray Attaway - Allegory
Najee - Sweet Love
Nebula - The Dagger
Neu! - Hero
Parts & Labor - Nowheres Nigh
Pat Travers Band - Boom Boom (Out Go the Lights)
Penny and the Quarters - You and Me
Peter Hammill - Imperial Zeppelin
Phil Ochs - There But for Fortune
Poe - Walk The Walk
Ra Ra Riot - Ghost Under Rocks
Railroad Jerk - Bang the Drum
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way
Shonen Knife - Tomato Head
Sia - Breathe Me
Sleeper - Bedhead
Southwest F.O.B. - Smell of Incense
Spectre General - Nothing's Gonna Stand In Our Way
Starflyer 59 - Sled
Stray Dog - Chevrolet
The Action - Something To Say
The Chicago Bears Shufflin' Crew - The Super Bowl Shuffle
The Chills - Pink Frost
The Chocolate Watch Band - I Ain't No Miracle Worker
The E-Types - Put The Clock Back On The Wall
The Fall - The Classical
The Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action
The Flying Lizards - Money
The Glass Bottle - I Ain't Got Time Anymore
The Grouch and Eligh - All In
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy
The Headstones - Smile and Wave
The Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died
The Knockouts - Darling Lorraine
The Knux - Bang! Bang!
The Lemonheads - It's About Time
The Muffs - Sad Tomorrow
The Pilfers - Climbing
The Pretty Things - The Good Mr. Square/She Was Tall, She Was High
The Rationals - Gave My Love
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes
The System - Don't Disturb This Groove
The Tarney/Spencer Band - No Time To Lose
The Vulcanes - Twilight City
Tito & Tarantula - When You Cry
Tomorrow - My White Bicycle
Trampled By Turtles - Wait So Long
Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles)
Velvet Babies - Tears
White Rabbits - Percussion Gun
White Wizzard - High Speed GTO

This list is from the bottom of this page and includes the 2 songs added in March. If any are missing, please point out the missing songs ASAP.

Nominations will end at 12:01 AM on Monday the 11th. Voters can nominate songs that they've previously nominated for the Voter's Choice project. Voters can vote for their own nominations in this vote.

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 01:03am

nominations:
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - Home
Meat Puppets - Plateau

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 02:50am

Nominations:

Neu!- Hero
Sleeper- Bedhead

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 04:19am

Here are the years for the songs we inducted:

The Who - Magic Bus (1968)
Stephen Stills - Love The One You're With (1970)
Joni Mitchell - California (1971)
Neil Young - Old Man (1972)
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1976)
The Bee Gees - Night Fever (1978)

I love all of these songs and they are all substantial oversights, but could we try to induct some songs from the past few years the next time around ?

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 04:23am

My 2 VC choices:

Wait So Long (2010) - Trampled By Turtles
Younger Us (2012) - Japandroids

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 04:30am

I love all of these songs and they are all substantial oversights, but could we try to induct some songs from the past few years the next time around ?
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This. There's plenty to choose so why on earth are nearly all of our songs from the 70's? We don't have this problem in the Album Project.

Also, my noms:

Le Tigre - Deceeptacon
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 06:55am

vc vote nominations:

Frank Black - Headache
Flying Lizards - Money

Posted by Darrin A on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 09:20am

Voters Choice Nomination:

Back Street Band: This Aint't the Road
Guitar Wolf: U.F.O. Romantics

Posted by John R.C. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 13:17pm

To be honest, why aren't ALL of the VC songs just automatically nominated for this round? There are so few, I'm sure we will collectively come up with a top five. There are only marginally more choices than we usually get as nominees in our monthly routine.

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 13:51pm

Paul K - There are 104 songs eligible in Voter's Choice. Our March ballot in The Song Project had 45 songs. Without nominations, the voting gets spread too thin.

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 16:06pm

VC Noms:

Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died
Dead Can Dance - American Dreaming

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 17:47pm

nominations:

You and Me - Penny and the Quarters
Help, I'm Alive - Metric

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:28am

I've been trying to make a comment here but somehow FRL thinks it's too much like spam. This is a test post of sorts.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:37am

As for inducting newer songs, I'd like to make a strong case for Thrift Shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. I think it's easily one of the best songs
to hit the mainstream in recent memory and the best number one since Somebody that I Used to Know.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:41am

Not only is the production really fresh and amazing.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:50am

It also works as a sly commentary on the consumerist impulse at the heart of pop and hip hop.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:50am

As well as the way they establish hierarchies

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:52am

through m a t e r i a l i s m while coming across as a catchy and clever song.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:54am

Sorry about that. I had to break down my argument because the FRL server was being a dick. Apparently the "m" word I spelt out triggered a spam filter or something and now my argument just looks less effective because of the execution.

Nevertheless, here it is a again in full:

As for inducting newer songs, I'd like to make a strong case for Thrift Shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. I think it's easily one of the best songs
to hit the mainstream in recent memory and the best number one since Somebody that I Used to Know.

Not only is the production really fresh and amazing.it also works as a sly commentary on the consumerist impulse at the heart of pop and hip hop and the way they establish hierarchies through m a t e r i a l i s m while coming across as a catchy and clever song.

Posted by rockstar23 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 03:01am

Voter's Choice songs:

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
Meat Puppets - Plateau

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 12:13pm

Cheesecrop - "Plateau" has already been nominated. You can nominate another song if you like.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 14:54pm

Cheesecrop - "Plateau" has already been nominated. You can nominate another song if you like.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03.10.13 @ 14:54pm
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O.K.

I'll go for Scritti Politti - "Perfect Way"

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 17:02pm

I am rather pleased that we are now about to vote for which Voter's Choice songs we put forward will now be elevated to our main Song Project. As many of you know, I have nameed a handful of songs for Voter's Choice; several of which have been familiar to quite a number of fellow posters. In picking which two would be nominated on my part, I essentially decided to nominate the two Voter's Choice selections that received a lot of flak due to their noteriety. Thus, I find it best to see if these can be elevated into our main Song Project.


Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles)
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You

Well, there you are then. Quite correctly, these two songs possibly should have been considered for the main Song Project rather than being a Voter's Choice. I tend to feel the same regarding Perfect Way. I thank Cheesecrop for nominating that hidden gem. In a later post, I will go back and look at my Voter's Choice selections and see which ones deserve an elevation.

All the seats are occupied,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 21:07pm

As tacky as it may seem to nominate two of my own VC picks, every other song I was considering has been nominated, so here we go:

Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!" - One of my favorite under-the-radar bands, this is perhaps their best and definitely their best-known (the classic indie rock guitar riff has been featured in commercials) song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6SO_yKMe8


Admiral Fallow - "Squealing Pigs" - A convergence of two of the best trends in indie rock at the moment, folk revival (Mumford and Sons, Blitzen Trapper, Avett Brothers) and Scottish bands (Frightened Rabbit, Glasvegas, The Twilight Sad) and again, a song that you've heard before, but might not know the name of.

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 22:55pm

Here's the link for "Squealing Pigs":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKy6MWS2iws

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 22:56pm

Since Cheesecrop already took one of my nominations I will return the favor by choosing his as a pick, here are 2 Voter's Choice inductees...

The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy (1958)
Cashmen & West - American City Suite (1972)

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 23:47pm

Here are the nominees for the 2012 Voter's Choice elevation vote:

Admiral Fallow - "Squealing Pigs"
Back Street Band - "This Ain't the Road"
Cashmen & West - "American City Suite"
Dan Hartman - "I Can Dream About You"
Dead Can Dance - "American Dreaming"
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - "Home"
Flying Lizards - "Money"
Frank Black - "Headache"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Guitar Wolf - "U.F.O. Romantics"
Japandroids - "Younger Us"
Le Tigre - "Deceptacon"
Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
Metric - "Help, I'm Alive"
Neu! - "Hero"
Penny And The Quarters - "You and Me"
Scritti Politti - "Perfect Way"
Sleeper - "Bedhead"
The Harry Simeone Chorale - "The Little Drummer Boy"
The Jim Carroll Band - "People Who Died"
The Streets - "Weak Become Heroes"
Trampled By Turtles - "Wait So Long"
Vangelis - "Blade Runner (End Titles)"

Voting is now open.

Voting rules are the same as for the regular Song Project (8 votes per ballot, one vote change per voter, no vote-swapping deals, etc.). The top 5 vote-getters will be inducted into the Song Project. There will be a tiebreaker if necessary if there are more than 5 songs tied at the end of voting, unlike the Song Project where the number of songs voted in is 5-10.

Voting will end after 5 days, at 12:01 AM on Saturday the 16th.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 01:11am

Regarding the lack of 2012 inductees in the Song Project so far ("Skyfall" is the only 2012 song so far), the best solution would be to organize around a couple songs a month and focus on getting those songs in. That's what has worked so far in the Album Project.

I have noticed that there's been a major drop-off in the number of songs we've inducted from the last few years. We were averaging about 10 a year until 2008, 8 in 2009, 6 in 2010, 5 in 2011 and 1 so far in 2012. It makes sense, really. It's hard to tell if a song that's only been a few years old is a modern classic or a flavor of the month.

We could consider making the 2012 nominations year-round rather than just for the first 6 months. That would keep current songs on the radar all year long.

Alternatively, after the 2012 nominations end in June, some of us could agree to use one of our nominations on a 2012 song each month (how that would be accomplished is another matter), increasing the odds of those songs getting voted in with the smaller ballot size.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 01:58am

VC Votes:

Sleeper- Bedhead (1995)
Neu!- Hero (1975)
Japandroids- Younger Us (2012)
Meat Puppets- Plateau (1979)
Metric- Help I'm Alive (2008)
Dan Hartman- I Can Dream About You (1984)
Glen Fray- The Heat is On (1985)
The Flying Lizards- Money (1979)

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 04:27am

We should have 2012 nominations year round.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 04:29am

Voters Choice Songs:

Dan Hartman - "I Can Dream About You"
Dead Can Dance - "American Dreaming"
Flying Lizards - "Money"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
Scritti Politti - "Perfect Way"
The Streets - "Weak Become Heroes"
Vangelis - "Blade Runner (End Titles)"

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 05:20am

I think it'd be good if we made lists of the 2012 songs that we'd support.

Willis Earl Beal - Swing On Low
Grimes - Genesis/Oblivion
Florence And The Machine - Spectrum (Calvin Harris remix)
The Killers - Runaways
Death Grips - Hacker/I've Seen Footage
Bob Dylan - Tempest
Carly Rae Jepsen - Tonight I'm Getting Over You/ Good Time (Ft. Owl City) (Call Me Maybe is 2011)
Beach House - Myth
Kendrick Lamar - Backseat Freestyle/M.a.a.D City
Regina Spektor - Don't Leave Me [Ne Me Quitte Pas]
Fiona Apple - Valentine/Werewolf
Ke$ha - Die Young
Gary Clark Jr. - When My Train Pulls In
Bat For Lashes - Laura
Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built
Alabama Shakes - Hold On
Chromatics - Kill For Love
First Aid Kit - Emmylou
Frank Ocean - Pyramids
Usher - Climax
Miguel - Adorn

Posted by GFW on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 15:44pm

My 8 VC songs:

Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - "Home"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Japandroids - "Younger Us"
Los Campesinos! - "You! Me! Dancing!"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
Metric - "Help, I'm Alive"
Neu! - "Hero"
Trampled By Turtles - "Wait So Long"

If you haven't heard the song, please go listen to "Wait So Long" by Trampled By Turtles. It is my 3rd favorite song of the new decade and one of the best bluegrass songs I've ever heard!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjdkc14-zwQ

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 16:35pm

VC rescue songs:

Dead Can Dance - "American Dreaming"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Guitar Wolf - "U.F.O. Romantics"
Japandroids - "Younger Us"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
Neu! - "Hero"
Sleeper - "Bedhead"
Jim Carroll Band - "People Who Died"

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 19:18pm

VC Songs:

Neu! - Heroes
Japanoids - Younger Us
Flying Lizards - Money
Guitar Wolf - U.F.O Romantics
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes
Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died
Meat Puppets - Plateau
Metric - Help, I'm Alive

Posted by John R.C. on Monday, 03/11/2013 @ 19:31pm

My votes:

Frank Black - Headache - The most successful solo song from the career of the highly consistent and highly prolific former lead singer of Pixies.

Metric - Help, I'm Alive
Edward Sharpe And The Magnetic Zeros - Home - Two popular indie rock songs that could have been contenders in the Song Project.

The Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died - A classic from the NYC punk scene of the late 70's. Also, Jim Carroll's autobiographical one-man show was turned into the movie "The Basketball Diaries".

Admiral Fallow - Squealing Pigs

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On - This was actually a highly successful song. Just saying...

Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing!

Japandroids - Younger Us - I had know idea that anyone had ever heard of this band and then they started showing up on EVERY year-end best-of list. lol

In summary:

Frank Black - Headache
Metric - Help, I'm Alive
Edward Sharpe And The Magnetic Zeros - Home
The Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died
Admiral Fallow - Squealing Pigs
Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing!
Japandroids - Younger Us


Top vote switch candidates:

Le Tigre - Deceptacon
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You
Flying Lizards - Money
Meat Puppets - Plateau
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes

Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 03/12/2013 @ 00:01am

2012 songs I support:

The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio
The Explorers Club- Run Run Run/ It's No Use
Kelly Clarkson- Stronger/ Dark Side
Imagine Dragons- It's Time/ Radioactive
Beach House- Myth
Alabama Shakes- Hold On
Passion Pit- Take a Walk or Carried Away
Amanda Mair- Sense/ Doubt/ House
Fiona Apple- Every Single Night
Metric- Youth Without Youth
Migel- Adorn
Frank Ocean- Thinkin' About You/ Pyramids
Cat Power- Nothin' But Time
Sharon Van Etton- Give Out
The Men- Open Your Heart
The Shins- Simple Song
Titus Andronicus – Still Life with Hot Deuce on Silver Platter
First Aid Kit- Emmylou
Japandroids- The House That Heaven Built
John K. Samson – When I Write My Master’s Thesis
The Lumineers- Ho Hey

Posted by Greg F on Tuesday, 03/12/2013 @ 05:19am

Frank Black - Headache
Japandroids - Younger Us
Le Tigre - Deceptacon
Meat Puppets - Plateau
Neu! - Hero
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes
The Flaming Lizards - Money
The Fall - The Classical

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 03/12/2013 @ 14:15pm

I haven't finished reviewing all my 2012 music, so these are mostly no-brainer picks. These are the 2012 songs I would consider voting for (so far...):

Alabama Shakes - "Hold On"
Alex Clare - "Too Clos"
Alicia Keys - "Girl On Fire"
Benjamin Gibbard feat. Aimee Mann - "Bigger Than Love"
Bob Dylan - "Duquesne Whistle"
Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band - "Death To My Hometown", "We Take Care Of Our Own"
Cat Power - "3.6.9."
Death Grips - "I've Seen Footage"
First Aid Kit - "Emmylou"
Frank Ocean - "Bad Religion", "Thinkin' 'Bout You"
Frightened Rabbit - "State Hospital"
fun. - "Some Nights", "Carry On", "We Are Young"
Garbage - "Blood For Poppies"
Grimes - "Oblivion"
Icona Pop - "I Love It"
Imagine Dragons - "It's Time", "Radioactive"
Jack White - "Blunderbuss", "Freedom At 21", "Love Interruption", "Sixteen Saltines"
Japandroids - "The House That Heaven Built", "Younger Us"
Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T And 2 Chainz - "Mercy"
Kanye West, Jay-Z And Big Sean - "Clique"
Kanye West, Pusha T And Ghostface Killah - "New God Flow"
Karmin - "Brokenhearted"
Kendrick Lamar - "Swimming Pools (Drank)"
Killer Mike - "Reagan"
Lana Del Rey - "Blue Jeans" ("Video Games" was released in 2011)
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz - "Thrift Shop"
Miguel - "Adorn"
Mumford And Sons - "I Will Wait", "Lover Of The Light"
Muse - "Madness
Nicki Minaj - "Starships"
Passion Pit - "Take A Walk"
Phillip Phillips - "Home"
Purity Ring - "Fineshrine"
Ryan Bingham - "Beg For Broken Legs"
Soundgarden - "Been Away Too Long", "Bones Of Birds"
Taylor Swift - "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"
The Beach Boys - "That's Why God Made The Radio"
The Lumineers - "Ho Hey"
The Shins - "Simple Song"

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 00:48am

GFW - "The Fall - The Classical" wasn't nominated, so you have one more vote.

Posted by Darren on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 00:51am

Here are 2012 songs I would be willing to support, if you see anything you think I'm missing, let me know:

Aerosmith – Legendary Child / Lover Alot
Alabama Shakes – Hold On / You Ain’t Alone
Fiona Apple – Hot Butter
The Avett Brothers – I Never Knew You / Life / Live and Die / Pretty Girl From Michigan / The Once and Future Carpenter
Band Of Horses – Knock Knock / Slow Cruel Hands of Time
The Beach Boys – Summer’s Gone / That’s Why God Made The Radio
David Byrne & St. Vincent – Who
Chromatics – Into The Black / Kill For Love
Johnny Cash – One Too Many Mornings (Feat. The Avett Brothers)
Gary Clark Jr. – Ain’t Messin’ Round / Third Stone From The Sun/If You Love Me Like You Say / Travis County / When My Train Pulls In
Dawes – Fire Away
Dr. Dog – That Old Black Hole / Warrior Man
Bob Dylan – Duquesne Whistle / Long And Wasted Years
The Gaslight Anthem – Here Comes My Man /National Anthem
Green Day – Nuclear Family / Oh Love
Grimes – Oblivion / Genesis
First Aid Kit – Emmylou
fun. – Some Nights / We Are Young (Feat. Janelle Monáe)
Icona Pop – I Don’t Care (Feat. Charli XCX)
Japandroids – Younger Us
Alicia Keys – Girl On Fire
Killer Mike – Reagan
The Killers – Runaways
Kendrick Lamar – Swimming Pools (Drank)
The Lumineers – Ho Hey
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis – Same Love (Feat. Mary Lambert) / Thrift Shop (Feat. Wanz) / Can’t Hold Us (Feat. Can’t Hold Us)
Dave Matthews Band – Mercy
Paul McCartney, Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, Pat Smear – Cut Me Some Slack
Miguel – Adorn
The Mountain Goats – Amy aka Spent Gladiator 1
Mumford & Sons – I Will Wait
Muse – Madness / Survival
Frank Ocean – Thinkin’ Bout You
Passion Pit – Take A Walk
Propagandhi – Note To Self
The Rolling Stones – Doom And Gloom
Rush - Caravan
Smashing Pumpkins – Pinwheels / Qusar
Soundgarden – Been Away Too Long / Live To Rise
Bruce Springsteen – Death To My Hometown / We Take Care Of Our Own / Wrecking Ball
Tame Impala – Elephant / Mind Mischief
Trampled My Turtles – Alone
Van Halen – China Town / She’s The Woman
Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T And 2 Chainz – Mercy
Jack White – Love Interruption / Sixteen Saltines
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Driftin’ Back

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 04:36am

I haven't given any thought to my own list for 2012, but from what I see here, here is a combination of songs from the lists immediately above mine that I'd toss a vote in for:


Alabama Shakes- Hold On
The Lumineers- Ho Hey
Jack White - "Blunderbuss", "Love Interruption", "Sixteen Saltines"
Soundgarden - "Been Away Too Long", "Bones Of Birds"

Gary Clark Jr. – Ain’t Messin’ Round / Third Stone From The Sun/If You Love Me Like You Say / Travis County / When My Train Pulls In

I need to hear more of his songs...

Dawes – Fire Away
Paul McCartney, Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, Pat Smear – Cut Me Some Slack
The Rolling Stones – Doom And Gloom
Tame Impala – Elephant / Mind Mischief

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 12:05pm

Voter's Choice Songs:

Dan Hartman - "I Can Dream About You"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Japandroids - "Younger Us"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
Metric - "Help, I'm Alive"
Neu! - "Hero"
The Jim Carroll Band - "People Who Died"
Trampled By Turtles - "Wait So Long"

Damn, I totally missed the voter's choice nominations. Would've definitely nominated "The Classical". Oh well, I'll get em next year!

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 13:46pm

As for 2012 songs, I'll be completely honest and say that my knowledge is pretty lacking. My ballots likely won't exceed one 2012 song per month, and my priority right now is probably getting something inducted by fun..

If something else from 2012 gains traction, I'll give it a listen and vote accordingly, but I'm not likely to personally push for anything specific from 2012.

Posted by BSLO on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 14:02pm

Here, at last, is my ballot for Voter's Choice selections to be elevated into the main Song Project. This is after hearing all of the nominated songs; most especially those I had not heard of prior to doing this project. In any matter, here they are.


Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles)
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You
Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
Neu! - Hero
Jim Carroll - People Who Died
The Fall - The Classical
Charles Thompson/Black Francis/Frank Black - Headache
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way

Admittedly, these eight songs on my ballot are the ones I feel were more in need of being in the main Song Project all along. Three of which I already had made to be personal Voter's Choice selections. Now hopefully this can be rectified.

Will post some 2012 picks later,


Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Wednesday, 03/13/2013 @ 22:04pm

Lax30 - "The Fall - The Classical" wasn't nominated. You can post a replacement vote if you like.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 00:44am

Current Standings:

Meat Puppets - Plateau - 7
Japandroids - Younger Us - 7
Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On - 7
Neu! - Hero - 7

Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 5
The Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died - 5
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Flying Lizards - Money - 4
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You - 4
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes - 3
Frank Black - Headache - 3
Dead Can Dance - American Dreaming - 2
Sleeper - Bedhead - 2
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - Home - 2
Guitar Wolf - U.F.O. Romantics - 2
Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing! - 2
Trampled By Turtles - Wait So Long - 2
Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles) - 2
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way - 2
Admiral Fallow - Squealing Pigs - 1
Le Tigre - Deceptacon - 1
Cashmen & West - American City Suite - 0
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy - 0
Back Street Band - This Ain't the Road - 0
Penny And The Quarters - You and Me - 0

GFW and Lax30 have one more vote each.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 00:47am

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On (1984)
Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You (1984)
Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles) (1982)
Cashmen & West - American City Suite (1972)
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy (1958)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 02:23am

Metric - Help, I'm Alive!
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes - Home
Neu! - Hero
Glenn Frey - The Heat is On
Penny and the Quarters - You and Me

Posted by rockstar23 on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 03:01am

Rick Vendl II, rockstar23 - You each get 8 votes.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 08:04am

Songs I'm considering for nomination next month

Pre-2012:

Toni Braxton- Un-Break My Heart
Dan Hartman- Relight My Fire
Jim Croce- I Got a Name
America- Tin Man
The Black Keys- Lonely Boy
Arcade Fire- Ready to Start
Blitzen Trapper- Heaven and Earth
Melissa Ethridge- Come to My Window
Melenie- Beautiful People
Joan Baez- Diamonds and Rust
Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues

2012:

The Beach Boys- That's Why God Made the Radio
Lana Del Ray- Blue Jeans
The Explorers Club- Run Run Run
Imagine Dragons- It's Time
Soundgarden- Live to Rise
Kelly Clarkson- Stronger
Fiona Apple- Every Single Night
Alabama Shakes- Hold On
Metric- Youth Without Youth

Posted by Greg F on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 08:18am

Since I have one more vote, let that go to The Flying Lizards and their cover of Money.

Hope this helps,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 11:13am

Damn, I wanted to vote for "The Classical" too. I can't believe nobody nominated it.


My votes go to:
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros
The Flying Lizards
Meat Puppets
Metric
Neu!

I know I get three more, but I'm still deciding and want to get these guys in just in case I don't post them.

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 03/14/2013 @ 21:37pm

Greg F. - Kelly Clarkson - "Stronger" is a 2011 song. The single came out in 2012, but the album it's on came out in 2011.

I would vote for "Un-Break My Heart", "I Got A Name" and "Lonely Boy" under the right circumstances.

I've also noticed that we don't have any Melissa Etheridge songs in the Song Project. I was thinking of nominating "I'm The Only One" sometime in the next few months. I'd vote for both, so does anyone else have a preference to help determine which should be nominated first?

Same deal with Arcade Fire. I was planning to nominate "Month Of May" in May (get it?), but "Ready To Start" is an equally great song, so does anyone else have a preference? "The Suburbs" is filled with too many great songs for none of them to be inducted.

I would absolutely vote for Blitzen Trapper - "Heaven And Earth". They haven't cashed in on the indie folk craze like Mumford and Sons or The Lumineers, but they've been cranking out great music for a decade now and this is probably their best song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI6jrdnUIv8

From your 2012 song, my most likely votes would be for "That's Why God Made The Radio", "Blue Jeans", "Youth Without Youth" or "It's Time".

Posted by Darren on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 00:24am

I have a couple songs I'm looking into nominating as voter's choice. Let me know if any of these are not a good fit.

Paul Varney- Open the Door to Your Heart (1995)
Kaleidoscope- Egyptian Candy
The Common People- Oh My My

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 02:11am

With a very good comeback album out, I really want to vote for something by Justin Timberlake next month.

I think both "Cry Me a River" and "SexyBack" are huge snubs. I'm also thinking of nominating either Justified or Futuresex/Lovesounds in the album project (leaning towards the latter). What do you guys think?

I think we've done pretty poorly with 21st century pop and R&B in general. Because there are stellar records out there yet to be inducted.

Posted by rockstar23 on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 05:02am

I have a couple songs I'm looking into nominating as voter's choice. Let me know if any of these are not a good fit.

Paul Varney- Open the Door to Your Heart (1995)
Kaleidoscope- Egyptian Candy
The Common People- Oh My My



Posted by Greg F on Friday, 03.15.13 @ 02:11am
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Note - Be aware that there are two bands from right around the same period that both call themselves Kaleidoscope. Two yrs. ago I recommended a song called "Colours" (1968) from the one I'd already known about.

The one you suggested has more of a folkish-style, while the one I mentioned prior has more of a psychedelic bent. Just a little note here.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 06:29am

Here are some of my picks:

After The Gold Rush by Neil Young

Lucky Man by Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Blackbird by The Beatles

Johnny's Garden by Stephen Stills

You Love The Thunder by Jackson Browne

Try And Love Again by The Eagles

Learning to Fy by Tom Petty & The Heartbeakers

Posted by Andrew on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 12:01pm

my 8 votes for VC elevation:

Flying Lizards - "Money"
Frank Black - "Headache"
Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On"
Meat Puppets - "Plateau"
The Harry Simeone Chorale - "The Little Drummer Boy"
Admiral Fallow - "Squealing Pigs"
Back Street Band - "This Ain't the Road"
Cashmen & West - "American City Suite"

Posted by Darrin A on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 12:27pm

FYI - Voting in the Voter's Choice elevation vote ends at Midnight Central tonight, so you have until then to vote, fill out the rest of your ballot (if you cast fewer than 8 eligible votes), or switch one of your votes.

If necessary, the tiebreaker vote will start at Midnight and conclude 48 hours later.

Posted by Darren on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 14:41pm

With a very good comeback album out, I really want to vote for something by Justin Timberlake next month.

I think both "Cry Me a River" and "SexyBack" are huge snubs. I'm also thinking of nominating either Justified or Futuresex/Lovesounds in the album project (leaning towards the latter). What do you guys think?

I think we've done pretty poorly with 21st century pop and R&B in general. Because there are stellar records out there yet to be inducted.

Posted by rockstar23 on Friday, 03.15.13 @ 05:02am
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Since I nominated "Cry Me A River" for March I would definitely support it again in April. I'd also be interested in supporting "Sexyback" down the line as well.

Posted by Zoltan on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 15:16pm

I'd vote for "Blackbird" by The Beatles.

Either of those JT songs have my support as well, although I think "Cry Me a River" is a better song and the bigger snub.

I'm going to nominate "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" again, and "Swimming Pools (Drank)" as my 2012 song, they just need that final extra vote or two to make it in. I'm probably going to nominate "Do You Believe in Love" by Huey Lewis and the News as my other pick.

Not April, but in the future, I'd like to nominate another rap snub. Which would you guys support the most?
Nas - It Ain't Hard to Tell
Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
Mobb Deep - Shook Ones (Part II)
Lil Wayne - A Milli
50 Cent - In da Club
T.I. - What You Know

Posted by Paul K on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 17:36pm

We haven't inducted C.R.E.A.M.?!?!?

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 03/15/2013 @ 21:17pm

Current Standings (voting ends at 12:01 AM tonight):

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On - 10
Meat Puppets - Plateau - 9
Neu! - Hero - 9

Flying Lizards - Money - 7
Japandroids - Younger Us - 7
Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 7
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Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You - 5
The Jim Carroll Band - People Who Died - 5
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - Home - 4
Frank Black - Headache - 4
The Streets - Weak Become Heroes - 3
Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles) - 3
Admiral Fallow - Squealing Pigs - 2
Cashmen & West - American City Suite - 2
Dead Can Dance - American Dreaming - 2
Guitar Wolf - U.F.O. Romantics - 2
Los Campesinos! - You! Me! Dancing! - 2
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way - 2
Sleeper - Bedhead - 2
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy - 2
Trampled By Turtles - Wait So Long - 2
Back Street Band - This Ain't the Road - 1
Le Tigre - Deceptacon - 1
Penny And The Quarters - You and Me - 1

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 00:22am

Voting is closed.

These 3 songs have been elevated from Voter's Choice to the Song Project:

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On (1984)
Meat Puppets - Plateau (1984)
Neu! - Hero (1975)

These three songs are now involved in a tiebreaker vote:

Flying Lizards - Money
Japandroids - Younger Us
Metric - Help, I'm Alive

Rank all 3 songs. The top two will be elevated to the Song Project.

Voting will end at 12:01 AM Central on Monday 3/18.

Posted by Darren on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 01:07am

Metric- Help, I'm Alive- 3
Japandroids- Younger Us- 2
Flying Lizards- Money- 1

Posted by Greg F on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 02:16am

Japadroids - Younger Us - 3
Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 2
Flying Lizards - Money - 1

Posted by John R.C. on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 02:39am

Help, I'm Alive - 3 points
Money
Younger Us

Posted by rockstar23 on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 05:48am

Paul K, I would support Blackbird. In fact I was the one who kept nominating it a few months back. I dunno why I gave up on it honestly. I guess I just forgot.

I would also support ALL of those rap classics. I've been nominating a couple rap classics myself these past couple of months but both have come close without making it. Public Enemy's Don't Believe the Hype as well as LL Cool J's Rock the Bells. I'd also like LL's I Need Love to get in eventually (he perfected the rap ballad with this).

I still want to get something by Shirley Bassey in and I'm sticking with Diamonds are Forever for next month. I would continue my support for other big female snubs as well (Madonna's Express Yourself, Beyonce's Single Ladies, Alicia Keys' If I Ain't Got You, Aretha's Think and I Say A Little Prayer, Lesley Gore's It's My Party, Shirley's Goldfinger, etc.)

With all the 2012 songs we will be inducting in the next few months, I hope we don't forget the gems from 2011 which impacted in 2012. (Black Keys' Lonely Boy, Drake's Take Care, Lana del Rey's Video Games, etc.)

Posted by rockstar23 on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 05:56am

Metric - Help I'm Alive 3
Japandroids - Younger Us 2
Flying Lizards - Money 1

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 09:32am

Japadroids - Younger Us - 3
Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 2
Flying Lizards - Money - 1

I forgot, how often are we going to vote to move up VC songs?

Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 11:56am

I'm so happy "The Heat Is On" by Glenn Frey solo from Beverly Hills Cop finally got into The Song Project after presenting my case for it many times since 1984/2009 with no other support except Cheesecrop along with maybe another, that I had to use Voter's Choice, Casey Kasem's American Top 40 - The 80's from March 16th, 1985 was on today with it at #2!

8-)

Hope these will make the cut next time as they do not belong either...

Dan Hartman - I Can Dream About You (1984)
Vangelis - Blade Runner (End Titles) (1982)
Cashmen & West - American City Suite (1972)
The Harry Simeone Chorale - The Little Drummer Boy (1958)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 12:15pm

rockstar23 - I support almost all of the songs you mentioned as well. I'm especially supportive of "If I Ain't Got You". I'd also like to see another Usher track. Maybe "U Got It Bad" or "Burn" or his duet with Alicia, "My Boo".

Metric - 3
Flying Lizards - 2
Japandroids - 1

Posted by Paul K on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 20:12pm

Japadroids - Younger Us
Metric - Help, I'm Alive
Flying Lizards - Money

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 03/16/2013 @ 20:30pm

My tiebreaking vote is as follows:


Flying Lizards - Money - 3
Japandroids - Younger Us - 2
Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 1

Hope this was on time,

Lax30

Posted by Lax30 on Sunday, 03/17/2013 @ 21:35pm

Younger Us
Help, I'm Alive
Money

Posted by Darren on Sunday, 03/17/2013 @ 22:50pm

Final Tiebreaker Results:

Metric - Help, I'm Alive - 21
Japandroids - Younger Us - 20
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Flying Lizards - Money - 13


The following songs have been elevated from Voter's Choice to the Song Project for 2013:

Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On
Meat Puppets - Plateau
Neu! - Hero
Japandroids - Younger Us
Metric - Help, I'm Alive

Gassman - We voted to elevate 5 songs from Voter's Choice to the Song Project per year. This vote was for 2013. The 2014 vote will take place in January 2014.

Posted by Darren on Monday, 03/18/2013 @ 01:13am

Darren: Thanks

Would anyone be interested in inducting a song by The Mountain Goats? "No Children" (2002) is a great track.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 03/18/2013 @ 01:54am

I thought (but maybe I'm wrong?) that chart success made a song ineligible for "voter's choice". If so, then why did "The Heat is On" become a VC song despite being a chart hit? Just wondering... it was probably discussed at the time but I forget.

Posted by Darrin A on Monday, 03/18/2013 @ 17:36pm

I thought (but maybe I'm wrong?) that chart success made a song ineligible for "voter's choice". If so, then why did "The Heat is On" become a VC song despite being a chart hit? Just wondering... it was probably discussed at the time but I forget.

Posted by Darrin A on Monday, 03.18.13 @ 17:36pm
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That's where this project went astray. I was always convinced that everyone would avoid blatantly commercial songs, w/out us having to say so. In some cases, a song had success on the charts, but it was minimal, & also by & large forgotten. Those songs may have been placed in there, but at least there was a reason why they would fit in.

There are several songs out there that clearly shouldn't have been placed there in the first place. They're all quality songs, & personally I believe they would've been inducted into the regular Song Project no matter what. I've no issue w/Glenn Frey having something in the Song Project. As it so happens, the song just took a rather roundabout method to reach the Song Project.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 03/18/2013 @ 21:35pm

Nice batch of songs elevated this year. I wasn't really familiar with Metric until I started researching the nominees, but I'm really liking what I've heard so far.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 03/19/2013 @ 03:09am

So Glenn Frey's eligible for VC but Nico ain't?

Calling shenanigans on this one.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 03/19/2013 @ 13:23pm

So Glenn Frey's eligible for VC but Nico ain't?

Calling shenanigans on this one.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 03.19.13 @ 13:23pm

It was a mistake and it is the reason why we now have the VC review day/the yearly vote up.

Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 03/19/2013 @ 16:24pm

FRL - When the Voter's Choice songs were added to the Song Project list, they were added under 2013. Could you change that to the current induction year, 2038, to avoid confusion?

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 00:26am

Andrew - I would eventually vote for "After The Gold Rush", "Blackbird" and "Learning To Fly".

"Lucky Man" has already been inducted.

Paul K. - I would eventually vote for "C.R.E.A.M." and "Shook Ones (Part II)"

Darrin A. / GFW - Songs like "The Heat Is On" were nominated for Voter's Choice before we had an official method for disqualifying songs from that category. We have regulations now to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 00:40am

While compling my latest favorite all-time songs list, I've determined that these are my top 50 songs (in alphabetical order by artist name, as I plan to re-order the list soon) that haven't been inducted into the Song Project as of yet:

A Perfect Circle - Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums
Alice In Chains - Down In A Hole
Aretha Franklin - Think
At The Drive-In - One Armed Scissor
Bob Dylan - Maggie's Farm
Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - Night Moves
Coldplay - Violet Hill
Conor Oberst And The Mystic Valley Band - Roosevelt Room
Eric Clapton - After Midnight
Everlast - What It's Like
Florence And The Machine - Kiss With A Fist
Frightened Rabbit - Keep Yourself Warm
Jay-Z feat. Rihanna and Kanye West - Run This Town
Kanye West feat. Pusha T. - Runaway
Kanye West feat. Jay-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj and Bon Iver - Monster
LCD Soundsystem - I Can Change
Melissa Etheridge - I'm The Only One
Nirvana - Breed
P.J. Harvey - Good Fortune
P.J. Harvey - This Is Love
Pearl Jam - Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town
Pearl Jam - I Am Mine
Pearl Jam - Given To Fly
Pearl Jam - Dissident
Queens Of The Stone Age - Someone's In The Wolf
Queens Of The Stone Age - Sick, Sick, Sick
R.E.M. - Supernatural Superserious
Radiohead - Bodysnatchers
Rage Against The Machine - Sleep Now In The Fire
Rage Against The Machine - Know Your Enemy
Sly And The Family Stone - Hot Fun In The Summertime
Sting - Fields Of Gold
T.V. On The Radio - DLZ
The Arcade Fire - Keep The Car Running
The Arcade Fire - Month Of May
The Arcade Fire - Ready To Start
The Beatles - You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
The Beatles - Hello Goodbye
The Clash - The Magnificent Seven
The Clash - Career Opportunities
The Clash - Janie Jones
The Clash - London's Burning
The Marshall Tucker Band - Can't You See
The Replacements - Can't Hardly Wait
The Rolling Stones - 19th Nervous Breakdown
The Shins - New Slang
The Talking Heads - And She Was
The Whigs - Right Hand On My Heart
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Don't Know How It Feels
Velvet Revolver - Set Me Free

This list is based entirely on my own personal taste, so my nominees in the future won't necessarily come from this list, but I would absolutely vote for anything on this list (obviously...). Let me know if there are any songs on the list that you'd support in the future.

Posted by Darren on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 01:01am

Darren, you have my support on "One Armed Scissor", "What It's Like", "New Slang", "Ready to Start", "Runaway", and "I Can Change", in that order.

Posted by Paul K on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 12:37pm

I'd also vote for Blackbird, After the Gold Rush and Learning to Fly.

Darren, in terms of your list, there's a lot of great stuff on there. I'd support the following songs immediately:

Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - Night Moves - This and Hollywood Nights absolutely deserve induction. This project is pretty light on Seger.

Eric Clapton - After Midnight - One of the top songs on my queue. Was actually thinking about nominating it next round.

Everlast - What It's Like - One of several one-hit wonder 90's songs I'd support. I've had bad luck pushing songs like this in the past, but would support it if it was nominated.

Jay-Z feat. Rihanna and Kanye West - Run This Town - Not a huge Jay-Z fan, but this song is great.

Sly And The Family Stone - Hot Fun In The Summertime - The most deserving Sly song not yet inducted.

The Beatles - Hello Goodbye - Even though we've inducted a crapload of songs by the Beatles, there are still a number of songs I'd support. At the top of the list is this and Blackbird, but I'd also support Drive My Car, I Saw Her Standing There, Paperback Writer and Lady Madonna.

The Marshall Tucker Band - Can't You See - I've nominated this before and it always seems to get about 3-4 votes. We could use some more southern rock, and I'd also support Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster, and Gimme Three Steps/What's Your Name/Call Me The Breeze/Tuesday's Gone/That Smell by Lynyrd Skynyrd

With regards to some other stuff on your list, here's my comments:

A Perfect Circle - Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums - Absolutely awesome song, and I think that this supergroup deserves a song inducted. Would also support Judith.

Alice In Chains - Down In A Hole - This might be my favourite band, so I'd support pretty much anything by them. Personally though, this song falls into #5 on my queue for the band behind Them Bones, I Stay Away, Again and Angry Chair.

Melissa Etheridge - I'm The Only One - Great song, but I'd support Come to My Window before any other ME song.

Nirvana - Breed - I think we've inducted every song by Nirvana that is a no-brainer. Personally I'd support Breed eventually but would prefer The Man Who Sold The World and Dumb ahead of it.

We could definitely use more P.J. Harvey

Given their stature, we could definitely use more by Pearl Jam. I think we've inducted all of the essentials, but would certainly consider anything additional that was nominated.

I think we've done a near-perfect job on R.E.M. and The Clash. I doubt I would support anymore of their songs.

The only other song by Radiohead that I would support is My Iron Lung

Rage Against The Machine - Sleep Now In The Fire
Rage Against The Machine - Know Your Enemy - Both awesome songs by Rage. Would support these, though they would fall behind Bullet in the Head and Wake Up on my queue.

The Rolling Stones - 19th Nervous Breakdown - One of 4 Rolling Stones songs I'd support. The others being The Last Time, Mother's Little Helper and Undercover of the Night.

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Don't Know How It Feels - This is very high on my queue, but is still third behind Breakdown and The Waiting, which are in my top 10. Even though we've inducted a lot of Tom Petty, I'd also still support Don't Do Me Like That, Stop Draggin' My Heart Around (with Stevie Nicks) and the aforementioned Learning To Fly

Velvet Revolver - Set Me Free - If we induct anything by VR, it's gotta be Slither.

Posted by BSLO on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 12:40pm

Darren: You asked about potential support for songs. At some point or another, I'd send a vote in your direction on these songs:

Alice In Chains - Down In A Hole
Aretha Franklin - Think
At The Drive-In - One Armed Scissor
Bob Dylan - Maggie's Farm
Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - Night Moves
Coldplay - Violet Hill
Eric Clapton - After Midnight
Melissa Etheridge - I'm The Only One
Nirvana - Breed
Pearl Jam - Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town
Pearl Jam - I Am Mine
Pearl Jam - Given To Fly
Pearl Jam - Dissident
Queens Of The Stone Age - Someone's In The Wolf
Queens Of The Stone Age - Sick, Sick, Sick
Rage Against The Machine - Sleep Now In The Fire
Rage Against The Machine - Know Your Enemy
Sly And The Family Stone - Hot Fun In The Summertime
The Beatles - You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
The Beatles - Hello Goodbye
The Marshall Tucker Band - Can't You See
The Replacements - Can't Hardly Wait
The Rolling Stones - 19th Nervous Breakdown
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Don't Know How It Feels
Velvet Revolver - Set Me Free

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 22:14pm

I'm might do a Hip-hop or a Genesis solo works ballot for April. Here are the songs i will put in

Hip Hop:
Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump
Public Enemy featuring Stephen Stills - He Got Game

Genesis solo:
Peter Gabriel featuring Kate Bush - Don't Give Up
Phil Collins - You'll Be in My Heart

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 23:25pm

Edit: I might actually do a 2013 inductee ballot ever since the induction ceremony is on April. Here are some song i might put on the ballot:

Albert King - Crossaw Cut
Heart - What About Love
Randy Newman - I Love L.A.
Public Enemy - Can't Truss It or He Got Game
Rush - Subdivisions or Roll the Bones
Donna Summer - Heaven Knows

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 03/21/2013 @ 23:34pm

My mistake, it's actually "Crosscut Saw" for Albert King, I got confused on the title.

Posted by John R.C. on Friday, 03/22/2013 @ 00:05am

Edit: I might actually do a 2013 inductee ballot ever since the induction ceremony is on April. Here are some song i might put on the ballot:

Randy Newman - I Love L.A.

Posted by John R.C. on Thursday, 03.21.13 @ 23:34pm


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I'd vote for this one as it is one of my pet projects in the queue!

8-)