Future Rock Legends predicts the 2018
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees


This year is the twelfth year that we have taken a crack at predicting the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees. Over that time, most of our predicted artists eventually got inducted, or at least received a nomination. However, there are 21 artists we've previously predicted over the years who have never made the ballot. Take a look:

Joy Division Brian Eno Sonic Youth
T. Rex Johnny Burnette & the Rock N Roll Trio Devo
Fela Patsy Cline Junior Parker
De La Soul Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels Roxy Music
Pixies Nina Simone Dick Dale
Phish Harry Nilsson PJ Harvey
Judas Priest Tommy James & the Shondells The Moody Blues

That would be a great ballot! And yet not a single one of those artists has ever had the opportunity to be inducted by the Rock Hall voters. When there are so many deserving artists, it's incredibly difficult to breakthrough the logjam. It's an awards show cliché to say "it's an honor just to be nominated," but in the case of the Rock Hall, it's absolutely true.

So, here's to hoping the Nominating Committee fills the ballot with artists who will finally get their first chance to call themselves a "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominee."

Now, for the 2018 predictions...

Future Rock Legends predicts the following 15 eligible artists will be on the 2018 ballot:

  • Radiohead - Although the entire notion of being in the Rock Hall makes Thom Yorke uncomfortable, Radiohead will certainly become first ballot inductees in April.

  • Rage Against the Machine - Yes, Tom Morello is a Rock Hall insider, but don't let that distract you from the fact that Rage were one of the most ferocious artists of the 90s. This is the first year they are eligible to be nominated.

  • Soundgarden - The Rock Hall took care of grunge's biggest artists first (Nirvana and Pearl Jam), but now they need to return to Seattle and induct one of its best.

  • Janet Jackson - Janet just resumed touring after taking a break to start a family. A third consecutive nomination seems highly likely.

  • Stevie Nicks - Some of the best Rock Hall writing in the last year has been Inspirer's "Induct These Women" series. They highlight the fact that there have been 21 men inducted into the Rock Hall more than once, but no women. Stevie Nicks could be the first.

  • The Cars - The Cars are one of only two artists (Nine Inch Nails is the other) who haven't been inducted after finishing in the top five of the Rock Hall Fan Poll (finished 5th last year and 3rd the year before).

  • Link Wray - The guitar pioneer's name hasn't appeared on the ballot since 2014, but with the acclaimed release of Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked The World, he's never had a better chance to get over the hump (Rock Hall Nominating Committee members David Fricke and Robbie Robertson appear in the film and Stevie Van Zandt is on board too).

  • Bad Company - Speaking of Stevie Van Zandt, his wife Maureen has been complaining for years on Twitter that Bad Company hasn't been nominated. With all of the recent 70s rock band inductions, it might be time for Bad Company to join their peers.

  • LL Cool J - LL Cool J has been nominated three times, but not since 2014. This December, LL Cool J will become the first hip hop artist to receive the prestigious Kennedy Center Honors. It only seems right for LL to get his Rock Hall honors before Dr. Dre gets inducted a second time.

  • Dr. Dre - Twenty-five years after his landmark album, The Chronic, HBO's docuseries, The Defiant Ones, depicted Dr. Dre as one of the most important cultural figures of the last 30 years.

  • Billy Preston - When you look at Preston's career and how it intersected with seemingly half the artists in the Hall of Fame, you have to believe that if he ever gets nominated, he'll be inducted easily.

  • Harry Nilsson - Musical influence ebbs and flows, but it sure seems like there is currently a Nilsson renaissance.

  • Chuck Brown - Last year, Dave Grohl made his debut on the Nominating Committee known by personally getting Bad Brains and Jane's Addiction on the ballot. The Nominating Committee is generally amenable to new members' choices in the first year, but Grohl may find the group less receptive to edgy picks this year. Grohl could potentially champion D.C. legend Chuck Brown, who was featured on his Sonic Highways series. (Brown also happens to have been Previously Considered, long prior to Grohl's arrival).

  • Joe Tex - Rock Hall Nominating Committee member Questlove has been singing the praises Joe Tex in recent months. Tex could return to the ballot for the sixth time.


  • The Smiths - After a one year absence from the ballot, The Smiths should return this year and receive their third nomination.

One last note... It has been a real pleasure to see the "Rock Hall Watcher" community blossom in recent years. Not just the terrific commenters here, but the outstanding writing, predictions and anaylsis from others like Alex Voltaire, E-Rockracy, Rock Hall Monitors, Iconic Rock Talk Show, Donnie Durham, and of course, Tom Lane and Charles Crossley, Jr, both of whom have been doing this exceptionally well for decades. Go read their stuff!

[Predictions posted September 15, 2017]


Artists are eligible for the Rock Hall 25 years after releasing their first record (anyone with a record released up through 1992). Future Rock Legends lists eligible artists by first year of eligiblity or alphabetically.

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Link Wray.

Posted by Greg Laxton on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 17:33pm


My wishlist

Kate Bush
Big Star
The Spinners
Kool & The Gang
Radiohead
Link Wray
Dick Dale
Rufus & Chaka Khan
Janet Jackson
King Crimson
Peter Tosh
The Pointer Sisters
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Soundgarden
Ohio Players
Harry Nilsson

What I predict

Janet Jackson
Los Lobos
Chaka Khan
The Cars
The Spinners
War
Soundgarden
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Carly Simon
LL Cool J
Nine Inch Nails
The Smiths
Harry Nilsson
Black Flag

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 18:26pm


Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 18:31pm


The 2018 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees

Willie Nelson
Janet Jackson
Foreigner
The Moody Blues
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 18:33pm


2018 Nominees (if 19)

1. Radiohead
2. Rage Against The Machine
3. Warren Zevon
4. Judas Priest
5. Moody Blues
6. Soundgarden
7. Dire Straits
8. Foriegner
9. Carly Simon
10. The Monkees
11. LL Cool J
12. The Cars
13. Nine Inch Nails
14. Janet Jackson
15. Carole King
16. Chic
17. J. Geils Band
18. Chaka Khan
19. Jane's Addiction

2018 Inductees

1. Janet Jackson
2. Rage Against The Machine
3. Radiohead
4. The Cars
5. Warren Zevon
6. Soundgarden

If They Do Musical Excellence

The Monkees

If They Do Non-Performer

Rick Rubin

If They Do Early Influence

Willie Nelson

Posted by Kyle on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 20:38pm


With last year's seven inductees (since Nile Rodgers erases Chic from the board) and some niche candidates like Bad Brains making an appearance, we could very well have a ballot without too many returnees from the previous year.


Back From Last Year:

The Cars
Depeche Mode
Janet Jackson (via Questlove)
Kraftwerk
MC5 (via Tom Morello)
The Zombies


My Other 13 Predictions For A 19 Artist Ballot Like Last Year:

Gram Parsons
Harry Nilsson
Kate Bush
LL Cool J
The Monkees
The Moody Blues
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
The Spinners
T. Rex



I know, I know. It would blow even last year's ballot out of the water, but we're just so far along in the history of this museum and the voting process that it seems like the bigger names SHOULD end up being the targets of the nominating committee rather than some C-tier acts from the 1960s or whatever...

Posted by Casper on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 20:41pm


My 19:

Big Star
Foreigner
Janet Jackson
Joy Division/New Order
Kraftwerk
Link Wray
Los Lobos
MC5
Nine Inch Nails
Pixies
Radiohead
Soundgarden
The Cars
The Marvelettes
The Meters
The Smiths
The Zombies
Warren Zevon
X

Posted by dmg on Friday, 08.18.17 @ 23:53pm


Not my prediction, but here's a personal wishlist:

The B-52s
Pat Benatar
The Cars
Joe Cocker
Jim Croce
The Cure
Nick Drake
INXS
Iron Maiden
Lenny Kravitz
Los Lobos
The Monkees
Motorhead
Harry Nilsson
Radiohead
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Thin Lizzy
A Tribe Called Quest

Posted by Greg P. on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 00:05am


My prediction if they're reverting to 15

1 - Radiohead
2 - The Moody Blues
3 - Janet Jackson
4 - Foreigner
5 - Soundgarden
6 - Janet Jackson
7 - War
8 - Nine Inch Nails
9 - J. Geils Band
10 - Warren Zevon
11 - Motörhead
12 - LL Cool J
13 - Rage Against the Machine
14 - Sonic Youth
15 - Bon Jovi

If up to 19
16 - Judas Priest (Entirely possible but I feel Dave is really going to push for Motörhead)
17 - Jane's Addiction
18 - Chaka Khan
19 - The Spinners

Posted by Nicky Joe on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 04:33am


I had a duplicate so here's who I predict will appear and for a laugh I've decided to add their odds at induction

1 - Radiohead - 5/1
2 - The Moody Blues - 10/1
3 - Janet Jackson - 10/1
4 - Foreigner - 10/1
5 - Soundgarden - 10/1
6 - Carly Simon - 20/1
7 - War - 15/1
8 - Nine Inch Nails - 45/1
9 - J. Geils Band - 20/1
10 - Warren Zevon - 25/1
11 - Motörhead - 30/1
12 - LL Cool J - 50/1
13 - Rage Against the Machine - 35/1
14 - Sonic Youth - 60/1
15 - Bon Jovi - 45/1

If up to 19
16 - Judas Priest (Entirely possible but I feel Dave is really going to push for Motörhead) - 55/1
17 - Jane's Addiction - 45/1
18 - Chaka Khan - 60/1
19 - The Spinners - 50/1

I still believe that it will ONCE AGAIN be primarily about Classic Rock Catchup.

Personally, on my predictions list, I would go with Radiohead, The Moody Blues, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Sonic Youth and Judas Priest and then add two more inductees in the form of Soundgarden and Jane's Addiction. I would also induct DJ John Peel as a non-performer, Ella Fitzgerald as an influence and Billy Preston as a sideman.

Posted by Nicky Joe on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 04:49am


My 2018 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominee ballot predictions...

Link Wray and his Ray Men
Johnny Burnette and the Rock 'n Roll Trio
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
The Moody Blues
The Zombies
Steppenwolf
Judy Collins
Warren Zevon
War
The J. Geils Band
Motörhead
Foreigner
The Cars
Chaka Khan
Janet Jackson
LL Cool J
Soundgarden
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine

Musical Excellence

Glen Campbell

Wish-list...

Phil Collins
The Alan Parsons Project
Foreigner
The Doobie Brothers
The Cars
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The J. Geils Band
The Spinners
Joe South
Fanny

Non-Performers

Casey Kasem and Wolfman Jack

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 14:10pm


Steve Z

I really like some of your choices and I especially like that you are including a list that is very different from some of the other lists.

A few things though:

Dells were inducted in 2004 and Ringo Starr was inducted under Lifetime achievement only a couple of years ago.

No Country?

although you list Ray Stevens as something else - don't forget that country also was a big part of folk, singer song writers and soft rock.

Artist such as Patsy Cline, Jerry Reed, Kenny Rogers, Dottie West, Bobbie Gentry, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson, Waylon Jennings, David
Allen Coe, Jim Stafford and EmmyLou Harris were very interactive with Rock and Roll, Rock and Folk artist.

You might need to add British Invasion, Garage Bands and Prog because some of the artist you list are being put in the wrong categories and pop is not soft rock or singer song writer.

I really have a hard time considering Chubbie Checker as anything but Rock and Roll.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 17:56pm


I'd like to see Janet Jackson and The Cars get a year break and Chic needs to be off ballot for a few years.Time to give Pat Benatar a shot and Kool and the Gang and induct them!!

Posted by Robert Henry on Saturday, 08.19.17 @ 19:18pm


A Tribe Called Quest
Black Flag
The Cars
Captain Beefheart
Dire Straits
Fugazi
Harry Nilsson
Janet Jackson
Kraftwerk
Nina Simone
Nine Inch Nails
Pixies
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy
Wu-Tang Clan

Posted by Rick on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 01:00am


My list of nominees will be quite "prog" heavy, since it is the 50th anniversary of progressive rock, so here it is:

01. The Moody Blues
02. Procol Harum
03. King Crimson
04. Duran Duran
05. Carly Simon
06. Radiohead
07. Sade
08. Kansas
09. Doobie Brothers
10. Sound-garden
11. Pat Benatar
12. Depeche Mode
13. The Spinners
14. Chaka Khan
15. Willie Nelson
16. Smashing Pumpkins
17. Nine Inch Nails
18. The Cars
19. Foreigner
20. Link Wray
21. The Monkees
22. Queen Latifah





Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 08:45am


Zuzu,

Thank you for liking my list! However, that list was for our Rock Hall Revisited/Projected project we have here, which is why a lot of the names you listed weren't included. Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson, and Emmylou Harris, among others, have already been inducted into the Revisited/Projected hall while the Dells, Moonglows, and Ringo, despite having been inducted into Cleveland's hall of fame, haven't been inducted into ours.

I would love to see all of those acts I've listed inducted into both our project and Cleveland's Hall of Fame, but if I were to make predictions for whom the "real" hall will nominate, it'd probably be more in lieu of what everyone else has been posting. I do think that Dire Straits may be a sleeper, partly due to Mark Knopfler, while acts like Radiohead, Janet Jackson, Soundgarden, and Rage are likely. I think the Cars will be inducted sometime soon, and I'd love to see Kraftwerk and the Moody Blues really get a crack at it and go in.

Do you participate in our yearly Rock Hall Projected project? It'd be great to have you!

Posted by Steve Z on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 14:24pm


Next month, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee will be meeting in New York t discuss who should be nominated for induction into the Class of 2018 in the Performers category. There are a number of artists that we have already inducted into the Revisited/Projected Rock Hall Project that I believe are on the shortlist and most qualified for actual RRHOF inductions. And these do not include who we will be inducting for our Revisited/Projected Project by October, though I think a few newer potential inductees on that end come to mind. Assuming there will be 19 nominees this Autumn, I think who will get nominated may turn out to be:

Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Beck
LL Cool J
Janet Jackson
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Soundgarden
The Cars
Smashing Pumpkins
Mariah Carey
Whitney Houston
Carole King
The Marvelettes
The Spinners
War
Eurythmics
The Moody Blues
Link Wray
Ozzy Osbourne

I do also have another 19 consisting of Artists I would like to see on the ballot as more of a personal wishlist.

Todd Rundgren
The Pixies
Glen Campbell
King Crimson
Barbra Streisand
The Bangles
Lionel Richie
Sting
Carly Simon
Blood Sweat & Tears
George Michael
Minnie Riperton
Willie Nelson
The Carpenters
Duran Duran
Gloria Estefan
XTC
Sarah McLachlan
Roxy Music

I can somewhat guarantee you that at least 1 of these artists on either of my lists will be nominated and possibly inducted. There is though a great potential for more to be included. Let me know what many of you think about these artists and their potential for getting nominated by the NomCom later next month.

Hoping to get more involved with the website now that summer is ending,

Lax34

Posted by Lax34 on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 15:35pm


Beck will not be eligible for the 2018 Rock Hall class

Posted by That Guy on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 17:14pm


Lax34,

I am terribly sorry, that I had forgotten XTC and The Zombies.

Therefore, here is my amended list:

01. The Moody Blues
02. Procol Harum
03. King Crimson
04. Duran Duran
05. Sade
06. Carly Simon
07. Kansas
08. XTC
09. Doobie Brothers
10. The Zombies
11. Soundgarden
12. Smashing Pumpkins
13. Phish
14. Radiohead
15. The Spinners
16. Kool and The Gang
17. Rufus and/or Chaka Khan
18. Lionel Richie
19. Willie Nelson
20. Garth Brooks
21. Depeche Mode
22. The Cars
23. Link Wray
24. Steppenwolf
25. Queen Latifah
26. Pat Benatar
27. The Monkees

23.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 17:22pm


Oops, I forgot Nine Inch Nails.

Actually, since "progressive rock" will be celebrating it's 50th anniversary, I think that the nominees list will be more "prog" heavy. Although, I had also considered Foreigner previously, I think that there might be a bit of a conflict if both King Crimson and Foreigner were to appear on the same ballot, since Ian McDonald is a founding member of both. The same might be true, if Emerson, Lake & Palmer was on this ballot also, since Greg Lake is also a founding member of both. I think that since Genesis, Rush and Yes have been inducted, the Rock Hall really wants King Crimson inducted next. I also think that Procol Harum will be renominated, but almost every other major prog fan wants The Moody Blues inducted, as well. I do not think that Duran Duran's coming out as a "prog" band will hurt them either. The Rock Hall might want a homegrown American prog band to be inducted. If they do, then Kansas would probably be a great choice, although Styx may also be possible.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 17:43pm


Lax34,

Here is my wishlist of inductees, from my previous nominees list:

01. The Moody Blues
02. Procol Harum
03. King Crimson
04. Duran Duran
05. Sade
06. Carly Simon
07. The Zombies
08. Doobie Brothers
09. Pat Benatar
10. Lionel Richie
11. Willie Nelson
12. Garth Brooks

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 18:04pm


Okay, you could replace XTC with Kansas, I suppose:

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Procol Harum
05. Sade
06. Carly Simon
07. Kansas
08. Pat Benatar
09. Lionel Richie
10. Willie Nelson
11. Garth Brooks
12. The Zombies

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 18:14pm


Here's the KING 2018 RRHOF Nominee Predictions.
1.Bad Company 11.Alex Chilton/Big Star
2.The Cure 12.Rage Against TM
3.Procol Harum 13.Judas Priest
4.Soundgarden. 14.Gram/Emmylou
5.Janet Jackson 15.Kool & The Gang
6.Radiohead. 16.Smashing Pumpkins
7.The Spinners. 17.J.Geils Band
8.Moody Blues 18.Phil Collins
9.Nine Inch Nails 19.The Cars
10.LL Cool J 20.Def Leppard
21.Stevie Nicks & Steve Winwood
Musical Excellence:The Zombies & Glen Campbell
Early Influence:Link Wray & Chuck Willis
KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 18:29pm


1. Johnny Winter
2. Johnny Winter
3. Johnny Winter
4. Johnny Winter
5. Johnny Winter
6. Johnny Winter
7. Johnny Winter
8. Johnny Winter
9. Johnny Winter
10. to Billion JOHN DAWSON WINTER, III

Posted by Veneta on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 18:41pm


Here's a list of eligible artists who have not yet been inducted, who have more than one album in Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list.

Big Star 3
Brian Eno 2
Janet Jackson 2
John Coltrane 2
Joy Division/New Order 2
MC5 2
Mott the Hoople 2
Pavement 2
Pixies 2
PJ Harvey 2
Radiohead 5
Richard and Linda Thompson 2
Roxy Music 2
The Cure 2
The Meters 2
The Replacements 2
The Smiths 4
Willie Nelson 2
X 2

Posted by dmg on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 20:41pm


My wish list:

The Monkees
Patsy Cline
The Moody Blues
The Cars
Bad Company
Eurythmics
Carol Kaye (Musical Excellence)
Billy Preston (Musical Excellence)
The Carter family (Early Influence)
Sister Rosetta Tharpe (Early Influence)

My prediction:

Radiohead
Janet Jackson
Kraftwerk
The Smiths
The Cars

Posted by Keith Mcilwain on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 10:09am


I'm going to go with 16 nominees.

I think they will only induct 5 this year from the ballot, and will do an early influence and a Musical Excellence, for a total of 7 inductions.

Early Influence: Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Musical Excellence: The JB's

Nominees:
- Black Flag
- The Cars
- The Commodores
- The Cure
- Eurythmics
- The Go-Gos
- Janet Jackson
- Kraftwerk
- LL Cool J
- The Meters
- The Moody Blues
- Nine Inch Nails
- Phish
- Radiohead
- Nina Simone
- Soundgarden

From those 16, I think the following 5 would be inducted:
- The Commodores
- The Moody Blues
- Radiohead
- Nina Simone
- Soundgarden

Posted by Shrek on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 14:51pm


Rage Against the Machine
Radiohead
LL Cool J
NIN
The Cars
Janet Jackson
The Cure
The Spinners
Link Wray
Procol Harum
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
Kraftwerk
Nina Simone
The Commodores

Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 16:06pm


A Tribe Called Quest
Black Flag
Blue Oyster Cult
Bon Jovi
The Commodores
Depeche Mode
The Doobie Brothers
Harry Nilsson
Janet Jackson
Kraftwerk
Link Wray
MC5
Motorhead
Nina Simone
Pixies
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
The Smiths
Soundgarden
Stevie Nicks
T. Rex

Posted by Dan on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 16:44pm


Hello everyone,

I am back from my summer hiatus. I didn't go anywhere. I just wasnt on here at all. It is time to give our predictions for the 2018 Rock Hall of Fame nominees. My list of nominees has variety.

Bon Jovi
Captain Beefheart
Devo
Dr. Dre
Emerson,Lake and Palmer
J. Geils Band
Janet Jackson
Carole King
Kraftwerk
The Meters
The Moody Blues
Procul Harum
Radiohead
Sonic Youth
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Steppenwolf
Tina Turner

Posted by Ben on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 19:36pm


I posted my predictions at the Northumbrian Countdown earlier in the month, but to recap they are:

Eurythmics
J. Geils Band
Janet Jackson
Link Wray
LL Cool J
Nina Simone
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Roxy Music
Soundgarden
The Smiths
The Zombies
War
Warren Zevon

If there's more than 15...

add The Shangri-Las if 16
add The Moody Blues if 17
add The Spinners if 18
add PJ Harvey if 19.

I like a lot of the lists people have already put up. Kyle may be on the right track in the Rock Hall "psyching us out" by nominating The Monkees not during their 50th anniversary, as everyone expected, but the year after. They would certainly be the next big populist nominee. Others of you put forth Devo, Carole King, A Tribe Called Quest...all acts that are deserving and I wish I had more space to include!

My guess is that if my initial ballot of 15 came to pass, Nine Simone, Janet Jackson, Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, LL Cool J, and Warren Zevon would get in.

Oh, and let's get Sister Rosetta in as an Early Influence, Carole Kaye for Musical Excellence, and Alan Lomax as a non-performer.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 22:09pm


Here are my provisional predictions for the 2018 Ballot -
1. Big Star
2. Depeche Mode
3. Emmylou Harris
4. Eurythmics
5. Janet Jackson
6. Kate Bush
7. Link Wray
8. Little Feat
9. LL Cool J
10. Nine Inch Nails
11. Rage Against the Machine
12. Radiohead
13. Soundgarden
14. The Cars
15. The J. Geils Band
16. The Monkees
17. The Spinners
18. War
19. Warren Zevon

Posted by Nick on Monday, 08.21.17 @ 23:05pm


I will put my list up forthcoming in the next few weeks. However, I want to point out early on, that while I am in the minority that likes to include all genres including hip hop, that I don't think it's imminent a rap group or artist will be nominated this year. The seeds have definitely been sown for future acts to go in, but there is neglected genres, such as heavy metal, and women "pop" rockers that are rich with deserving individuals. I will say lately two of my personal choices that deserve to go in are Bad Company, who for some reason are always overlooked, and Depeche Mode, who deservedly were nominated last year. This is definitely the first time in a long while that there isn't a glaring omission with the notable exception of the Moody Blues. The RRHOF committee has at least done a small bit to include all the perennial favorites the majority of the people seem to want

Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 08.22.17 @ 05:26am


Welcome back Ben,

You will be pleased to find out that many of the nominees lists include The Moody Blues.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 08.22.17 @ 06:40am


Ah yes good to be back. I was expecting many of the nominee lists to include the Moody Blues. One of the most glaring omissions. So I will explain my list a bit. There is of course the Moody Blues on my list. As they have been for 7 years or so. I made lists before the discovery of this awesome site. I think Captain Beefheart and Devo could be 2 new nominees. Both have their place. Captain Beefheart was an cult figure of the 1960s. Somewhat in the Frank Zappa veign. Devo is an 80s act that could easily come out of nowhere. As far as Prog I choose Moodys of course and also Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Procul Harum. Last year proved that 2 prog acts can be inducted. Both Keith Emerson and Greg Lake died last year. Now Nicky Joe has a point with Sonic Youth. I personally dont know too much about them. They would be the 80s alt choice. I know they inspired acts like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. I had the Cure on my 2018 list but the Hall may want to try them out. I went with 18 nominees not 19. I am not certain the Hall would go as far as 19 again. So I go with 18 nominees.

I had the Zombies on earlier versions of this list but I don't know that the Hall will nominate as many 60s acts as last year. I keep the 60s alive with Captain Beefheart, Moody Blues and Steppenwolf. I think they will try again with Janet Jackson. It will be her 3rd nomination in fact.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 08.22.17 @ 08:36am


I don't presume to offer any predictions,
but high on my wish list are:

Carla Bley
Tom Lehrer (early influence, perhaps)
Todd Rundgren
The Monkees
The Flaming Lips
They Might Be Giants
Suzanne Vega
Residents
Harry Nilsson
Ween
The Moody Blues
The Pet Shop Boys

Posted by LaustCawz on Tuesday, 08.22.17 @ 17:17pm


Whoops!!
How could I leave out Bjork???

Posted by LaustCawz on Tuesday, 08.22.17 @ 17:20pm


Bless you, LaustCawz, for remembering Tom Lehrer.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Wednesday, 08.23.17 @ 02:58am


This is a 50% "I'm stubbornly willing this to happen", 50% realistic list:

1. Dennis Wilson (insert shameless plug)
2. Link Wray
3. Janet Jackson
4. Carole King
5. Glen Campbell
6. No Doubt
7. Black Flag
8. Motorhead
9. Patsy Cline
10. Radiohead
11. Rage Against the Machine
12. Warren Zevon
13. The Cure
14. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
15. Harry Nilsson
16. Pat Benatar
17. Screaming Jay Hawkins
18. Foreigner
19. Jane's Addiction

Posted by Induct Dennis Wilson on Wednesday, 08.23.17 @ 12:02pm


Here's my wish list - vastly different from my predictions:

Bad Brains
Big Mama Thornton
Dick Dale and the Del-Tones
Dire Straits
Herbie Hancock
Iron Maiden
J.J. Cale
John Coltrane
Johnny Burnette and the Rock 'n' Roll Trio
Judas Priest
Link Wray and the Wray Men
MC5
Nina Simone
Nine Inch Nails
Paul Pena
Soundgarden
Sun Ra
The Monkees
The Moody Blues

Early Influence:
Sister Rosetta Tharpe

Lifetime Achievement:
Dr. Robert Moog

Side Performer:
Carol Kaye

Musical Excellence:
Alan Parsons

Posted by dmg on Wednesday, 08.23.17 @ 12:27pm


OK - partial wish list and partial realistic list.Assumption of 19 nominees. A couple that haven't been mentioned on other lists. In no particular order:
1)Rage Against The Machine
2)Alanis Morissette
3)Radiohead
4)Roxy Music
5)King Crimson
6)Nick Drake
7)Soundgarden
8)Depeche Mode
9)The Moody Blues
10)The Monkees
11)Dire Straits
12)Chubby Checker
13)Carole King
14)Todd Rundgren (although he would decline)
15)Mary Wells
16)The Cars
17)Warren Zevon
18)Nine Inch Nails
19)Kraftwerk
Early Influence - Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Musical Excellence - Bernie Taupin

Posted by KSP on Thursday, 08.24.17 @ 16:36pm


My Top 19

Alice In Chains
Bad Company
Boston
Def Leppard
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
INXS
Jethro Tull
Joe Cocker
Joy Division
MC5
Nine Inch Nails
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden
Steppenwolf
The Cars
The Monkees
The Moody Blues
Thin Lizzy

Posted by Listener on Thursday, 08.24.17 @ 16:58pm


How can you not have a Paul Rodgers and Bad Company and/or Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull in the HOF!
Cars and Foreigner should be in as well.

Posted by BCJT on Thursday, 08.24.17 @ 19:35pm


As of now, I'm still finalizing my list. I started it back in February, I believe....trouble is now its a struggle choosing all the 'left field' and legends never been nominated. There's such a huge backlog...I know, duh. Its very difficult to ponder what is on the members of the NomCom's minds. Will they repeat the same formula each year? By that I mean, 1 or 2 first-year eligible acts, half a dozen 'already nominated' acts and just a bunch of random bands/artists that will get voted into the Hall? I seriously hope they will repeat having a large ballot (at least 18) so I think its safe to say we can all expand our lists very greatly. Lastly, I hope they put more women on the ballot this time around; if I'm not mistaken there was an article posted on this site that the Committee will bring this issue to attention.

Everyone has picked well, and I hope all your favorites eventually get on the board.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 08.25.17 @ 01:18am


By the way: Ben, I second that 'welcome back'! I'm like you, I'm only on this site on special occasions. I don't participate in any of the voting of classic artists and songs, 'projected' and many other specialty discussions on FRL. I have a busy life at times, so its very difficult to keep up with those that live on this site (laughs). But I love to play the ballot predictions game with others.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 08.25.17 @ 01:24am


Jason,

Your comments are well put. My focus each year is the predictions. I think they will repeat the formula of the last 2 years. I dont know about each year but for now I think the Hall will do that. The Hall seems to be addressing the back log. I do think some acts like J. Geils Band,Procul Harum and Steppenwolf, Janet Jackson and the Spinners will return.

I think there will be at least 1 or 2 first-year eligible acts. I have picked Dr. Dre and Radiohead. I am not a fan of either. I dont know the work of Dr. Dre but a Rap act is nominated each year at this point. I know some of the work of Radiohead. They are not my cup of tea but I know they had a lot of impact in the 90s. I dont think a Rap act will actually end up inducted. A Rap act doesnt have to be inducted every year. One does tend to get nominated each year in recent years. Dr. Dre seems likely as the next Rap nominee.

So to continue from my last post. I think there will be a few R&b acts. I am picking Janet Jackson.I am picking the Meters,the Spinners and Tina Turner. Tina Turner has not been nominated for her great solo work. She also gives a good show. Also Jason I agree there will be some random acts that will get voted into the Hall. Emerson,Lake and Palmer, The Moody Blues and Carole King are such picks. I have seen great picks so far.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 08.25.17 @ 06:59am


Can we just do away with the Politics and concentrate on the music?

The Moody Blues
The Doobie Brothers
Soundgarden
The Cars
Alice in Chains
Joe Cocker
Carol King
Dire Straits

Posted by Kevin Tew on Saturday, 08.26.17 @ 20:40pm


Here is my preliminary list. Usually I do a one and done, but I'm going to try a different tactic this year and listen to the input of others. As hip hop has been sufficiently represented in my opinion at this point, I feel I can slog through the long analysis of people I might not normally consider. However, my list:

1. The Monkees
2. Depeche Mode
3. Bad Company
4. Alice in Chains
5. Janet Jackson
6. The Moody Blues
7. The Cars
8. Nine Inch Nails
9. Duran Duran
10. The Spinners
11. Jane's Addiction
12. Iron Maiden
13. The Doobie Brothers
14. Soundgarden
15. Whitney Houston

I find it increasingly hard to get too many old, old bands into the mix, although the Moody Blues and Monkees should have been in long ago, just based on their impact on the music world in general. As far as metal goes, a very overlooked genre, but I have always preferred Iron Maiden before Judas Priest based on the longevity and endurance of their sound to modern times. "Run to the Hills" is simply a masterpiece and more relevant than ever as social commentary of our country today. I know Rage will get too much of a look, when we need to finish what we started with Jane's Addiction and the rest of the Seattle Sound before paying homage to rap/rock, whose time will come soon, especially with the late 90s acts of Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and others becoming eligible. I really wanted to include White Zombie as a personal wish, because they would open the door for heavy jamming bands like Tool, Korn and Disturbed down the road, but I'm trying to steer clear of 90s acts largely until the 80s are addressed. And, notice I went mostly rock heavy, but did throw in the 2 giant pop divas Jackson and Houston. They are long long overdue, and hip hop/R&B/soul as well as general pop would not be what it is today to the genre were it not for them. This is largely a transitional year. Beyond NWA and Tupac taking the Hall in a different direction, the other nominees of the past couple years have sated some ominous gaps, like Chicago, but have also really hit the rock transition into more pop friendly fare like Journey. It has been established the RRHOF has wished to go in the direction of multifaceted, and most of my nominees branch out, be it 80s new wave, pop style, metal, Seattle Sound, and bringing it into the 90s for the new generation. A side note, and we all cringe at this, is that boy bands will soon fall under consideration. Until that day, hopefully at least we can enjoy the greatness that is the diverse sound of music. Sorry for the long windedness, I'm free associating for the most part, but believe I've made my points for a different perspective than just guessing who the committee will pick based on its personal biases.

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 13:42pm


Ughhh...put a 16th in there for Kraftwerk. I can't believe I left them out, and electronic rock is another genre hideously unrepresented. Without them, there is no European music beyond the British invasion.

Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 13:48pm


I want to point out that over time the Hall has become more muti faceted but somehow not with the Induction class. Since we are only up to the Nominee phase it is true there that the Hall has covered all kinds of genres in the last couple years. A lot of my nominees branch out as a response to that as well. I have real old acts like the Moody Blues, Procul Harum and Steppenwolf on my list. I am not sure if metal will be dealt with this year. I think the Hall will go with mainstream hard rock act like Bon Jovi instead. I have 2 big pop acts on my list Janet Jackson and Tina Turner. They both have had impact over the years. I think hip Hop will be represented with Dr. Dre but be skipped in this class. This would allow Janet J. to slide in possibly. However there seems to be a reluctance for a lot of women in a class. I have Carole King on my list as well. There have been a few women as nominees the last couple years. My Tina Turner pick replaces Chaka Khan.

I did remember Kraftwerk on my list. Electronic rock hasn't been represented that much. Even though I am no fan of Electronic music Kraftwerk have been nominated a bunch of times.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 18:56pm


I see Kraftwerk & The Zombies as outstanding choices for the Musical Excellence awards. Both are deserving as performers but it is difficult for them to receive the votes required for induction. Say you place Kraftwerk and The Zombies in a ballot vs 1.Judas Priest 2.Radiohead 3.Smashing Pumpkins 4.Janet Jackson 5.The Cars 6.Stevie Nicks 7.Depeche Mode 8.Nine Inch Nails 9.LL Cool J 10.Soundgarden 11.Link Wray 12.Kool & The Gang 13.Black Crowes 14.Moody Blues 15.Rage Against The Machine etc. How many would actually select Kraftwerk or The Zombies on their ballots? KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 21:04pm


King,

I do think you are right. I am no fan of Kraftwerk but I do think they will be on a couple more nominee lists. Same with the Zombies. Bon Jovi, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, J. Geils Band, Janet Jackson,Carole King, The Moody Blues, Radiohead and Soundgarden stand a much better chance. However there is always acts like Kraftwerk to fill up the ballot. This is the first year I am picking Devo and Sonic Youth. I don't really think they will get enough votes either. But hey its a ballot.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 21:27pm


Here is my finalized predictions list (even # of 18 nominees), in long-detailed form:

Newly eligible:

RADIOHEAD - Everyone and everything from the opening image on this website, to the so-called professional critics and music fans predicted they are a shoo-in. I mean, all the major publications love ‘em (maybe not Discogs). They still headline festivals all over. I for one, am not much of a fan of their music, but I do like a few of their songs. For a time I thought they were overrated. I was very ignorant about their influence and impact on rock and the music industry for a long time. Well, here you go

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - While I don’t see Rage getting in the Hall that soon, I know they will get on the board this year. At the risk of quoting Alex Voltaire, Tom Morello wouldn’t let such thing happen before his heroes got in.

Nominated before:

JANET JACKSON - There’s really no excuse for her not to be the female representative next year, unless say, Carly Simon, Carole King (solo) or Tina Turner (solo) gets put on the ballot. I’ve said it many times, but I’m pretty sure the NomCom will continue to put Janet on the list until she gets inducted.

KRAFTWERK - At the risk of repeating myself on this one, Kraftwerk to me is the biggest innovative act not in the RRHOF.

J. GEILS BAND - Because….I don’t know. Lil Stevie may try again….

THE CARS

NINE INCH NAILS

BON JOVI - It will be seven years since their lone appearance on the Nominations ballot. Like many others, I’m wondering why he’s not in. It’s a mystery for sure. I could say the same about several rockers but Jon Bon Jovi is a rock icon. He’s been seen several times all over TV (awards shows, benefit concerts), has had numerous radio hits still being played today, and he has several connections to current Hall of Famers. I’m really surprised that no one seemingly hasn’t done very much in trying to get Bon Jovi in. Still putting out albums and selling out arenas, in an era where people still believe hair rock is dead. He’s been on the cover of Rolling Stone and most recently, People magazine. His face is still all over the place. As for my personal taste, its always a good time singing along to ‘Wanted Dead or Alive’ in a bar with friends, and ‘Livin’ on a Prayer’ never gets old. I can picture Bon Jovi and Sambora headlining the superstar jam session after their induction, whenever that will be. Just put them in and get it over with.

LL COOL J - I almost didn’t put him on the list but now that he’s getting a Kennedy Center honor, he may finally get in. Only rap act on my list.

JANE’S ADDICTION - Now that they’re on the board, I expect to see them roll around again. I mean, who can deny Perry Farrell’s influence on the music industry?

STING - Gordon Sumner’s stage name will likely pop up every two or three years, I imagine. He’s already got a Kennedy Center honor, a Billboard Century award (do those still matter?) and has been appointed Order of the British Empire. Its safe to say he’ll get in sometime within the next few years.

THE ZOMBIES - I don’t know how long the NomCom will leave these boys hanging on, but its gotta happen soon before they are forgotten

Never-before-nominated:

THE MOODY BLUES - So with the trend of prog-rock groups finally getting their dues, it’s hard to imagine no other band that deserves to be the next of such genre.

DIRE STRAITS - A few years back I created a Spotify playlist of all RRHOF inductees and each one had two songs of theirs in the playlist. Last year, Spotify introduced the feature where it randomly selects related songs to add to the playlist. Dire Straits and REO Speedwagon, for some reason, keep showing up on the ‘recommended songs’ list. Of the two of them, Dire Straits have a better chance of getting in. They are a “few-hit wonder” to most people, and Mark Knopfler is a skilled guitarist to many. He’s worked with many RRHOF inductees, so this one would be no surprise.

HERBIE HANCOCK - Here’s one that somehow popped in my mind. In the past, the RRHOF has inducted artists that are a bit out of the rock and roll range, but are still considered r&r for many reasons. Maybe its the elements or image. Think Miles Davis, Dr. John, Jimmy Cliff. Hancock has won numerous awards and accolades, including a Kennedy Center honor (I know I’m on that subject a little too much here). Hell, I still can’t get over the fact he won the Album of the Year Grammy of his album with Joni Mitchell covers. Anyway, it will not surprise me the first time he will get nominated that he will get in the Hall.

SOUNDGARDEN - So with Chris Cornell’s passing this year, this should really draw a lot of attention to the NomCom. They’ve been eligible for a while, and with Nirvana and Pearl Jam now in, Soundgarden is well-destined to be the next grunge act to get into the Hall. Hopefully no bumps in the road for this one.

DEF LEPPARD - What has nine arms and will likely get into the Hall pretty soon? Okay, tasteless jokes aside, you gotta hand it to these British guys for sticking it out and touring every year. Or look at it this way: classic rock bands (though not 80s hair rock) like ELO, Journey and Steppenwolf finally made it onto the ballot last year. I see another such trend happening again. It would suck though if Def Leppard got in before Iron Maiden or Judas Priest, but then again, Donna Summer got in before her labelmates, KISS. Strange things happen all the time.

JUDAS PRIEST - Last year as we all know, this was a big prediction thanks to Tom Morello throwing their name out. It could happen this year. See where it goes from there.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 23:15pm


And my follow-up commentary:

On newly-eligible artists/bands:
There are several big-name acts that are newly-eligible this year. Some have been credited for changing the music scene in some way (besides the two I put above): Hootie & the Blowfish, who helped popularize adult-rock, No Doubt (helped popularize ska and made it pop…), Mary J. Blige and R. Kelly...both have had long careers and several hits on the Pop and R&B chart. Plus you got Tool, Sublime and STP who now have another generation of fans thanks to alternative/90s stations playing their stuff as well as them touring (well, the former two). As for Dixie Chicks, Martina McBride and Tim McGraw, Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville for sure…..

I know some have predicted Dr. Dre, but I don’t think the NomCom will waste any time or space putting him on the ballot. For one, I don’t think they are ready for a Clyde McPhatter title for a rapper. I’m aware of the tremendous impact Dr. Dre has had on hip-hop/rap as well as the music industry. Sure, he’ll probably get in before Eminem and Jay-Z. Just not yet.

On the NomCom trends and however which way it will go:
As you may notice, I think (and hope) they will concentrate on putting more ‘past nominated’ acts on the ballot. That should take care of some cleanup for future ballots. Hope I’m not the only one that’s sick of seeing the same names pop up year after year.

It really sucks for me to say it so here goes: the way its going right now I’m looking at the NomCom continuing to shun most women and the R&B/soul acts again. That is, unless they continue to put acts like the Spinners, War and/or Chaka Khan like they have been doing. Country music may be out of the question. As far as time periods, the NomCom’s main focus will be the 70’s and 80’s, and there is already a huge backlog for both those decades. Sadly, I don’t see them putting that many acts from the 1960’s on the ballot. Forget the 1950’s, unless they would like to bring back Link Wray. While they’re at it, why not Huey Piano Smith and the Clovers?

I for one, would gladly love to see a well-diversified nominations list in the future like they have in the past. Many users of this site have pointed out that genres are continuing to be ignored, shunned, and/or the like. I would like a ballot that would cover a wide range of subgenres such as classic rock, 50’s, 60’s, 90’s grunge, prog, singer/songwriter, country, funk, R&B, soul, punk, MTV new-wave, etc. But we know that’s not likely to happen, given the trends by the new nominations committee. You never know, things may change. We have yet to be convinced.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 23:16pm


Bill G. was correct in some of his earlier summer posts on the R&B and lack of recent inductions. For example, The Spinners & The Marvelettes were gaining some momentum in towards of induction and then the Nom Com decided on Joe Tex. A good career cut short but had little chance of induction. They also brought Chic back for the 11th time. Another group who didn't have much of a chance due to a stacked ballot of ELO, The Cars, YES, Journey, Pearl Jam etc. This 2017-2018 election cycle should be interesting. I like Moody Blues & Procol Harum as the Prog choices. Some of my left field choices have hit over the years. Journey, Los Lobos, Peter Gabriel etc. I see 2 of these 3 being nominated out of Big Star, Blue Oyster Cult, and Roxy Music. The Chris Cornell death gives Soundgarden my Alice In Chains spot. Cornell was/is greatly respected by the musicians in life and death. He also will have Morello and Grohl in his corner. Might have to remove Steve Winwood for Blue Oyster Cult. I admire the Sonic Youth selection. As long as The Pixies aren't nominated. Radiohead is the Pearl Jam 1st eligible inductee. I will be mixing and matching to formulate and to unveil my final list around September 30. God bless the people of Houston and those Texas coastal cities affected by Hurricane Harvey. They probably will have 1 of those concerts to help those people. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 08.27.17 @ 23:23pm


Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.28.17 @ 21:40pm


Inductees:

The Cars
Moody Blues
Depeche Mode
Janet Jackson
Doobie Brothers
Spinners

Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 08.29.17 @ 17:01pm


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

THE 2018 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON THE FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTING

01. Janet Jackson
02. Bon Jovi
03. Whitney Houston
04. The Moody Blues
05. Devo
06. Jethro Tull
07. Radiohead

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.29.17 @ 17:21pm


Means nothing...

Posted by FTW on Wednesday, 08.30.17 @ 11:27am


King,

Its good to see yu on here. It is Cool. I think I saw the summer posts from Bill G. I recall he loves old R&b. I agree the Spinners a lot but not the Marvelettes anymore. After the Nom com shake up they have not been nominated. The choice got too old. Ironically Joe Tex is not. That may be a reason they decided on Joe Tex. He had his first huge hit in 1965. He had various R&b hits in the late 60s. I feel the Spinners will return this year.They were huge in the 70s. Chic didnt have a chance once again with a stacked ballot.

I like The Moody Blues, Procul Harum and Emerson, Lake and Palmer as the prog choices. ELP seem likely after 2 deaths in the trio. Carl Palmer is the only one alive. I think there will be push for the 80s. I confused some last year with my Classic Rock. I also dig some 80s. Both Bon Jovi and Janet Jackson are likely. I am not a Janet J fan at all but I respect her going in. I also choose Tina Turner. I do like a bunch of her stuff. These acts hate Donald Trump and fascism. Somehow there is a mkisconception about Classic Rock. Hillary Clinton loves Classic Rock as well as other genres. Last year a connection was made between Classic rock and conservatism. So while I love Yes and Bad Company. I also like Some Duran Duran and Tina Turner. That is my Political statement for this year. Donald Trump must be destroyed. It doesnt matter about my music tastes.

So anyway Sonic Youth is a revolutionary choice of mine this year. They were an influence on Nirvana and Pearl Jam and that makes them worthy. Whats wrong with the Pixies? They dont seem that bad.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 08.31.17 @ 08:12am


Nice writeup/analysis, Jason!

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 08.31.17 @ 09:49am


My top 25 wishlist for the Rock Hall in order -

Depeche Mode
The Smiths
Janet Jackson
The Cars
The Cure
The Spinners
Joe Cocker
Nine Inch Nails
The Marvelettes
Kate Bush
Kraftwerk
Eurythmics
Big Star
Mariah Carey
The Moody Blues
Roxy Music
Harry Nilsson
Judas Priest
The B-52’s
LL Cool J
The J. Geils Band
Joe Tex
The Replacements
Nina Simone
Whitney Houston

Posted by Nick on Thursday, 08.31.17 @ 21:18pm


PAT BENATAR 2018

Are you people stupid or what?

What did Pat do not to get in?

I guess if she was black or asia or mexican or latino, she would have been in years ago?

She has NOT even been nominated. What is wrong with you people?

Posted by Joshua Hardnips on Thursday, 08.31.17 @ 21:22pm


"I guess if she was black or asia or mexican or latino, she would have been in years ago?"

Considering that the Hall disproportionately inducts white people... huh?

It's about inducting WOMEN. The Hall has a hard time inducting WOMEN.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 08.31.17 @ 21:33pm


I'll have to add Blue Oyster Cult to my Nomination list. BOC could be 70's Classic Rock choice,take a metal slot, or be a solid hard rock choice. Might add Tommy James & Pat Benatar to my list as they have been in the final cuts last 3 years.
The women's lack of representation siren continues to be sounded. I don't know if I agree with that totally. Joan Baez was inducted last year and Janet Jackson & Chaka Khan have been frequent nominees. Chic had a few female members too and they have been nominated 11 times. Madonna, Donna Summer, The Wilsons from Heart, Joan Jett, etc have all been inducted. My only disagreement why more women aren't inducted twice like the male artists. Stevie Nicks is an obvious 2x type inductee. Diana Ross could be a 2x type inductee.
I'm curious who would be the heavy metal nominee. Judas Priest is my pick. Had Natalie Merchant or Mariah Carey sang lead vocals for Megadeth, they probably would already be inducted. Iron Maiden should be nominated and inducted the next 5 years. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 09.1.17 @ 03:28am


King,

Blue Oyster Cult is a terrific choice but in another year. I thought them over some time ago and concluded that they could be nominated around 2027. They were a local band from Long Island,NY. I think other Hard rock choices will come first. Bad Company is a good hard rock choice for this or next year.

Women have been represented on ballots and also in recent years Linda Ronstadt, Joan Jett and Joan Baez have been inducted. So I do agree with that. I do also feel Stevie Nicks should be nominated and the same with Diana Ross. I am not predicting them but they deserve spots. I like your list King.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 09.1.17 @ 07:29am


Pat Benatar's time will come. Remember, Heart and Joan Jett got the nod a few years back. You can't induct every single worthy candidate in a pigeonholed genre in such a diverse hall. I feel Jackson and Houston both should go in first as there is a glaring lack of 80s and 90s divas in the HOF while the 60s and 70s have a glut of deserving female lead or contributing acts. On a side not, BOC is deserving but there are a ton of grass roots movements that still need their candidate to go in. My personal new choice for the year is Bad Company. How Paul Rodgers distinctive voice has never gotten a nom is beyond me.

Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 09.1.17 @ 10:29am


Paul, thanks for the kind words! Looking forward to LouFest. I'll see you thee!

By the way, for those who tried to read my posts on my predictions - my apologies. Looks like that will be the last time I cut and paste from Google Docs. Apparently the apostrophe has issues :(.

As far as the women, I really do hope more get nominated and inducted. You're all preaching to the choir. I forget what the fraction/ratio is but the women's part is very small.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 09.1.17 @ 12:47pm


King,

I was looking at your list.Your list is terrific. We have several ones in common. I am confused with Big Star somewhat I dont know much about them.
Rage Against the TM, Judas Priest,Gram Parsons/Emmylou Harris, Kool & the Gang and Smashing Pumpkins all make sense. You have the J. Geils Band like I do. A great Blues rock choice.

Can yu explain Big Star to me. I Have seen them on some lists. I had Rage Against TM are very possible but I replaced them with Soundgarden. Judas Priest is a good metal choice. I went with tamer 80s rock acts like Bon Jovi.Tom Morello may push for Priest but may not get his wish. I think he will push for Soundgarden as well and he will easily win with that due to the passing of Chris Cornell.

Kool & the Gang makes sense. They could replace Chic as a soul/disco choice. Smashing Pumpkins is also very possible. I notice yu have Steve Winwood. His solo stuff is notable. King its a great list

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.5.17 @ 07:27am


Ben,
I'd recommend watching the documentary 'Big Star: Nothing Can Hurt Me' (2012) which tells the story of the band and its frontman Alex Chilton. Big Star, who appears on my 2018 predictions list mainly because Holly George-Warren (who is on the nominating committee) wrote a biography on Chilton in the few years. Big Star is one the most criminally underrated rock bands of the 1970s, producing some of the power pop and straight up rock songs ever recorded. While their 3 records in the 1970s didn't sell well, Big Star was responsible for laying the blueprint for alternative rock acts in the following decade. Big Star proved to be a major influence on R.E.M. and The Replacements (one of the band's most famous songs is titled 'Alex Chilton'). Check out those three albums - #1 Record, Radio City, and Third/Sister Lovers - and you will understand.

Posted by Nick on Tuesday, 09.5.17 @ 11:51am


Big star falls into the category of "your favorite band's favorite band". They weren't a huge success themselves, but were very influential on a lot of bands that went on to be major successes in the 80s and 90s.

They fall outside of the "Fame" part of "Hall Of Fame"; but fit well within the stated priorities of the HOF to base induction on "the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll."

They are another band that I've never particularly liked; but can absolutely support as worthy of induction (and that a bunch of band's I do like were influenced by).

Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 09.5.17 @ 14:10pm


Big Star is summed up well in these comments. Three of their albums have made Rolling Stone's Top 500 list, and two of their songs "Thirteen" and "September Gurls" have made the Top 500 songs list. So yeah, it baffles me like everyone else why they are not yet. One would think the death fairy would help get Big Star in, but at this point it would take a miracle as they are just another group that's part of a mega-backlog waiting to get in the Hall.

I have listened to their albums, and a few songs I really liked and starred on Spotify: "The India Song" and "You Get What You Deserve". One of their songs was the theme for "That 70's Show"

Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 09.5.17 @ 16:44pm


I will have to check out Big Star. I have seen them on music lists in several Rock magazines but I never heard them at all. I do know quite a bit of music from acts like Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds. Are they similar to them. It would be cool to hear from King. He has Big Star on his predictions. They wouldnt be on a list of mine only because I dont know much about them. I do know all the others of King's list. I would like you to elaborate on Judas Priest and Kool & the Gang among others. King is good with his lists

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.5.17 @ 20:19pm


BEN
Big Star is well-respected for their 70's power pop sound and excellent songwriting and musicianship. Alex Chilton and Big Star influenced several of 80's and early 90's groups. Matthew Sweet, REM, The Replacements,etc. I think Robin the singer of The Gin Blossoms reminds me the most in voice sound and quality. September Gurls probably the best power pop song I've heard and was covered by The Bangles with Michele singing. There's also In The Street beginning of That 70's Show theme. They decided to use Cheap Trick's version instead. Big Star could have been 1 of the BIG bands of the 70's but had distribution problems with their records. Most music fans couldn't hear their music on a record or whatever. They split up in the middle 70's and returned in the 1990's. Chilton is seen as an influential singer and musician to many of the alternative groups. As a member of The Boxtops in the 60's,Chilton only 15 or 16 sang on the big hit The Letter in the 60's. Chilton unfortunately died at 59 from a heart attack in 2010. Big Star I believe has their 3 albums in the Top 500. That's an impressive accomplishment. Big Star would be 1 of my outside the box choices but I think it is possible they could be nominated. KING

Posted by KING on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 00:56am


King,

I am glad yu responded. I will certainly check out Big Star. I like the acts you mentioned. I like Matthew Sweet, REM and the Replacements. I do also like the Gin Blossoms. I own stuff from all of those. I also look forward to you elaborating on Acts like Judas Priest and Kool & the Gang. I know those very well. Yu have a lot of variety on your list.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 06:41am


I might as well throw some predictions into the mix......

The Cars
A Tribe Called Quest
Kraftwerk
PJ Harvey
Radiohead
Nine Ince Nails
Soundgarden
The Cure
Janet Jackson
Judas Priest
Rage Against The Machine
The Eurythmics
Joy Division
Los Lobos


Others considered, but did not make the cut:
The Spinners
Pat Benatar
Beck
Depeche Mode
Moody Blues

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 06:44am


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

THE 2018 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES
BASED ON THE FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS VOTING

01. Janet Jackson
02. Bon Jovi
03. Whitney Houston
04. The Moody Blues
05. Devo
06. Jethro Tull
07. Radiohead

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 11:28am


Whitney, Jovi, Tull, and Devo ain't making it in! #youallcandobetter

Posted by Furgettabutit on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 14:06pm


Alex Voltaire asks a different question today in his twitter feed. Eliminating what you think the committee *will do* - what would your "ideal" class look like.

This was my crack at a nominees list and inductees list that I think I could stand behind. I got to give some props to a few favorite artists (that I genuinely think deserve a nomination) - but for the final inductees I had to give a nod to the ones that were really most historically important even if I don't particularly like some of their music:

Nominees – I decided to limit myself to 18 – it leaves out a lot of wishlist acts, but a line has to be drawn somewhere!:

– The B-52’s
– Bon Jovi
– The Cars
– Chubby Checker
– The Commodores
– The Flaming Lips
– The Go-Gos
– Screamin’ Jay Hawkins
– Janet Jackson
– Kraftwerk
– The Meters
– The Moody Blues
– Gram Parsons
– Phish
– Radiohead
– Roxy Music
– Soundgarden
– Link Wray And his Ray Men

Suggested Six Inductees from that list would exclude most of my favorite choices that I nominated:
– The Commodores
– Screamin’ Jay Hawkins
– Janet Jackson
– Kraftwerk
– The Moody Blues
– Radiohead

Early Influence: Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Musical Excellence: The Wailers
Ahmet Ertugen: Rick Rubin & Russell Simmons

Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 14:36pm


King,

Yu can also elaborate on Gram Parsons and the Smashing Pumpkins. I know Gram Parsons somewhat. Grevious angel or some title like that is something I heard. You listed him with Emmylou Harris. The 2 worked together. Anyway Gram Parsons is a good pick. He would be an act for Singer/songwriter. He WAS NOMINATED A couple of times. I know most of the acts on your list rather well. Elaborating would be a good chat.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.6.17 @ 17:00pm


If the Moodies get past the nominating committee, they will be a cinch for induction like Chicago, ELO, and Rush before them.

Posted by Michael McNeely on Thursday, 09.7.17 @ 02:31am


http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-poll-results-the-monkees-inducted-news/

I don't think all the artists on this group should be inducted at this time and Moodys are more deserving than 3 Dog Night, but put the Monkees on the people's choice ballot this year!


Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 09.7.17 @ 13:38pm


King,

I look forward to chatting about your choices. We have several in common like Procul Harum, Radiohead and Janet Jackson. My list is not as Prog heavy as Enig's list. It may be based on upbringing perhaps. I grew up with all kinds of rock and music. I am predicting J. Geils Band as a Blues rock choice. I love Blues Rock. Janet Jackson and the Spinners are likely R&B picks. Both of them have big careers.

I think Captain Beefheart and Devo are good left field picks. Captain Beefheart was a notable cult act in the 60s. More on him another time. Now Devo is a good left field choice of the 80s I predict. Whip It was their one hit. They did have some notable albums. Freedom of Choice is their most known. New Traditionalists and Oh No Its Devo are the 2 albums that followed. Through Being Cool was another single. I am not sure I know it but I read about it. look forward to chatting.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 09.8.17 @ 06:38am


2018 Nominees for me

Big Mama Thorton
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
The Carter Family
Gram Parsons/Emmylou Harris
T.Rex
Dire Straits
Thin Lizzy
Johnny Winter
Patsy Cline
Willie Nelson
The Moody Blues
Wings
Johnny Halliday
Cliff Richards & The Shadows
Joe Tex
Arthur Alexander
Judas Priest
Pat Banatar
Kate Bush
Nico
Janet Jackson
Radiohead
Quicksilver Messanger
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle & The Dukes
Roy Buchanan
Rory Gallagher
The Guess Who

Posted by Denis Q. on Friday, 09.8.17 @ 22:32pm


In my list, sorry he miss the unforgettable, Joe Cocker.

Posted by Denis Q. on Saturday, 09.9.17 @ 09:45am


And Tina Turner, sorry.

Posted by Denis Q. on Saturday, 09.9.17 @ 09:46am


And Carole King. It's enough. Sorry!

Posted by Denis Q. on Saturday, 09.9.17 @ 09:48am


BEN

I'll probably make some changes next week to my nominations list. See E-rockracy has his list out now. I'm keeping Bad Company on there. Big Rodgers fan. Don't want to put J. Geils Band back on the list but Mr. Geils died recently. They probably give them 1 more kick at the can. I'm really praying for Procol Harum to be nominated and inducted. They just are deserving. A Whiter Shade Of Pale and Homburg are 2 KING FAVS. I've given up on Duran Duran for a few years. It's not their time yet. I like Radiohead's early stuff Pablo Honey and The Bends. OK Computer probably was their best. That song Electioneering is really incredible. Let Down a good one to sing. I'm bringing The Spinners back hopefully they will be nominated and inducted. Those songs like Cupid and Rubberband Man just Classics. Going with Stevie Nicks again. She deserves a 2nd induction. KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 09.9.17 @ 14:24pm


Here is my amended list of RRHOF nominees:

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. Carly Simon
06. Doobie Brothers
07. Foreigner
08. Willie Nelson
09. Radiohead
10. Phish
11. Garth Brooks
12. Lionel Richie
13. Procol Harum
14. The Cars
15. Queen Latifah
16. Steppenwolf
17. The Zombies
18. Todd Rundgren
19. The Monkees
20. Soundgarden
21. Nine Inch Nails
22. Smashing Pumpkins
23. J. Geil's Band
24. George Michael and/or Wham

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09.9.17 @ 15:18pm


I know thatt its a joke at this point
I move we dissolve Rock Hall

Posted by David K on Monday, 09.11.17 @ 08:25am


Attention. I have made an amended list for 2018 Rock Hall of Fame nominees. Here we go.

Bon Jovi
Captain Beefheart
The Cars
The Cure
Dr. Dre
Emerson,Lake and Palmer
J. Geils BAnd
Janet Jackson
Carole King
Kraftwerk
The Meters
The Moody Blues
Procul Harum
Radiohead
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Steppenwolf
Tina Turner


Posted by Ben on Monday, 09.11.17 @ 21:02pm


Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.12.17 @ 09:14am


Does anyone have any insight or inside info as to when the Nominating Committee is meeting? Should be any day now, I assume.

Posted by Greg P. on Tuesday, 09.12.17 @ 14:18pm


Well it’s that time of year again to make predictions about who will make this year’s rock hall ballot and then fume over some of the acts that make the actual ballot instead. Here goes nothing.

1. Radiohead- Come on we all it’s going to happen and we’ll all rejoice seeing Thom Yorke and company add another accolade to their resume. Critics have been singing their praises for years and they have the fan support to boot.

2. Janet Jackson- Has the fan support and would serve as a good headliner for HBO. With her in it would also open the doors for Whitney Houston Mariah Carey an eventually Beyonce.

3. Kraftwerk- One of these years it’s gotta happen right? Way too influential to keep out and would finally give electronic music a foot in the door. Why you ask: Autobahn, Radioactivity and Trans-Europe Express. I rest my case.

4. Link Wray and his Wray Men- Forget the resurgence in recognition over the past year, this power chord innovator should have been inducted years ago.

5. The Moody Blues- This one checks a lot of boxes: British Invasion (their first hit “Go Now” was released in 1964), Psychedelic (“Nights in White Satin”), Progressive Rock, , many radio friendly hits, legions of fans, and would be a great nod to the 50th anniversary of their landmark concept album Days of Future Passed. With Yes now inducted I think they are the next logical nominee from the Prog side of the rock family tree and would open the doors to other popular Prog acts like Jethro Tull, King Crimson, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer.

6. Soundgarden- RIP Chris Cornell. It’s makes sense that the Rock Hall would wait to nominate these guys until after Nirvana and Pearl Jam were inducted but it sucks that Cornell did not live to see induction. I think friends Tom Morello and Dave Grohl will go to bat for them big time (maybe at the expense of Rage getting nominated) to the point where induction this year would not be entirely out of the question. For this reason I think they will clear the deck for Soundgarden so don’t expect to see other popular early and mid 90’s alternative rock acts like Alice in Chains, Jane’s Addiction or Smashing Pumpkins to get nominated…

7. Rage Against the Machine- …except maybe this fearsome foursome. I think lead guitarist Tom Morello would go try to get the committee to hold off on nominating them until next year to focus on paying homage to Cornell as well as push for some other hard rock acts that came before (MC5s, Judas Priest) but I think he’ll be overruled and put on the ballot anyway. And quite frankly I wouldn’t mind. With the political climate of our nation seemingly more polarizing than ever now would be the perfect time to put Rage back into the public consciousness.

8. Roxy Music- A nomination’s gotta happen one of these years right? Hopefully this will be the year. A nomination for them would bode well for the future chances of Kate Bush and T.Rex.

9. L.L. Cool J- I have a feeling that there will only be one hip hop act to make the ballot this year and this past nominee and recently announced Kennedy Center honoree would be the perfect choice to represent especially now that the induction of 2Pac proves that the Hall is acknowledging solo acts as well as groups. Sadly this means that I doubt we’ll see Wu-Tang or ATCQ this year.

10- Eurythmics- 80’s alternative has always been a tough sell to the voters but I think that this artsy duo would stand a good chance of getting a nomination. With many calling for more women to be nominated and inducted this is a good place to start as Annie Lennox is a well respected vocalist with an iconic song of the time in their catalogue as well as being one of the early core acts that MTV relied on.

11. The Commodores- 70’s R&B has also been a tough sell to the voters recently though it hasn’t helped that the nominating committee like to nominate 2 or 3 per year. Which is great except that once the ballot comes out and they go against all the rock acts they all end up cancelling each other out to the point that no one gets in. As much as I want to see War or The Spinners go in I think the act to break the log jam with voters might be this Motown powerhouse. A slew of hits ranging from the funky “Brick House” to the mellow “Three Times A Lady” and the star power of front man Lionel Ritchie give them enough name recognition to make this an “Easy” choice (see what I did there?)

12. The Cars- It’s pretty clear at this point that the Rock Hall wants them in as it would give a boost to their 80’s and New Wave ranks.

13. Warren Zevon- I was kind of torn on who should represent singer/songwriters on the ballot this year but was one over by the arguments in favor of Zevon. Would not be surprised to see Harry Nilsson, Jim Croce, or maybe even Carole King take this slot though.

14. Judas Priest- I see them being the next metal choice though I would not be surprised if Motorhead ends up here instead. Either way looks like there’ll only be room for one of them.

15. Patsy Cline- I know, I know, it’s the rock hall not the country hall…to which I say bullshit…Johnny Cash was an early country icon with resounding influence and I don’t hear anyone complaining about him having been in the rock hall for decades. Plus if Willie Nelson is the Musical Excellence recipient (which he should be) this would be a great way to remind folks that he wrote her biggest hit “Crazy”.

16. Bad Company- We all know there always a 70’s rock act to be found so why not them? Would not be surprised if they chose to go with Foreigner instead

17. The Monkees- It’s a shot in the dark but then again I never thought they’d put KISS and Rush in the hall so crazier things have happened

Posted by Tom H. on Tuesday, 09.12.17 @ 15:00pm


My picks

THE RUNAWAYS- Early Influence
Pat Benatar
Cyndi Lauper
Carole King
Melissa Etheridge
Tracey Chapman
The CARS
NIN

Posted by Pam on Tuesday, 09.12.17 @ 17:21pm


Ok. I am amending my list one more time. I want to add the Jam. So to keep 18 nominees I am taking out a 60s. Anti Classic Rock people should like that. The Jam were a lighter punk band. This gives an extra entry for the 80s since I am having the Cars and the Cure as well.

Bon Jovi
Captain Beefheart
The Cars
The Cure
Dr. Dre
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
J. Geils Band
The Jam
Janet Jackson
Carole King
Kraftwerk
The Meters
The Moody Blues
Procol Harum
Radiohead
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Tina Turner

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.12.17 @ 22:09pm


So now I will explain my changes. Even though I like a certain amount of 60s acts for sure. There is a good chance they wont have 5. I had 4 60s but I removed Steppenwolf. After all Procol Harum is not nominated every year. Also the Paul Butterfield Blues Band who are in were not nominated every year. So this allowed me to strengthen the 80s. The Anti Classic rock friends should like my 80s choices. The Cars are embraced as Classic rock but are New wave. I have chosen Bon Jovi,the Cure, The Jam, Janet J and Tina Turner as well.

I was inspired to add the Cars and the Cure by you. My list had too many new entries. There is usually about 10 repeat nominees. The Cure as example seem more likely than Sonic Youth. I am retaining my Moody Blues of course as well as ELP and Procol Harum. Also Kraftwerk seem to get nominated a lot for their influence on electronic. I am NOT a fan at all but its the Hall's thinking. Oh as far as the Jam they had a huge tune on the Punk scene called A Town called Malice. I chose them 6 months ago but took them out. The Jam are back.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.13.17 @ 16:55pm


King,

A correction and clarification about the last post. I was inspired to add the Cars and the Cure by you King. So I switched out Sonic Youth and Devo. And then madea switch for the Jam. The Jam from what I know are much lighter Punk than those Bad Brains. I never really heard of the Bad Brains. But I have heard of the Jam. It seems logical that the Hall tries different left field bands from year to year.
In any case I have now gone with The Cars and the Cure on my list. They are right there with the Moody Blues, Procol Harum and Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.13.17 @ 18:29pm


Since everyone else submitted a prediction/wish list, I guess I get to as well...

Chubby Checker
Joe Cocker
Dire Straits
The Go Gos
Janet Jackson
Kraftwerk
Link Wray
The Meters
The Moody Blues
The Runaways
Carly Simon
The Spinners
Three Dog Night
Warren Zevon
The Zombies

Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 09.13.17 @ 18:55pm


Add Mitch Ryder to the above.

Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 09.13.17 @ 18:56pm


To Future Rock Legends,

When are you guys gonna post your nominations?

By the way, for those interested, I posted my blog with my 2018 Nominee Predictions. The link is below....

https://donniesblogwordpresscom.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/my-predictions-for-the-2018-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-class/

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 09.13.17 @ 21:21pm


Time to make my final KING 2017-2018 Nomination Predictions List. Note I have Foreigner in the 4 slot & Nine Inch Nails in the 9 spot. Pretty groovy I think!
1.The Cure
2.Bad Company
3.The Spinners
4.Foreigner
5.Janet Jackson
6.Alex Chilton/Big Star
7.Moody Blues
8.Procol Harum
9.Nine Inch Nails
10.Depeche Mode
11.LL Cool J
12.Def Leppard
13.Rage Against The Machine
14.Stevie Nicks & Steve Winwood
15.Soundgarden
16.Kool & The Gang
17.J.Geils Band
18.The Cars
19.Smashing Pumpkins
20.Judas Priest
21.Gram/Emmylou
22.Ben E. King

King Quick Thoughts:3 deserving women on the ballot. Emmylou Harris, Janet Jackson, & Stevie Nicks.

ARTISTS CONSIDERED: Black Crowes, Blue Oyster Cult,David Gates & Bread,Duran Duran, Pat Benatar, Phil Collins, Roxy Music,The Offspring, Tommy James, WAR, etc.

12 of these artists have been nominated before.

MUSICAL EXCELLENCE: THE ZOMBIES & WILLIE NELSON. The RRHOF Committee seems to have a crush on The Zombies and will figure a way to fit them in. Zombies short peak probably won't ever get enough votes. They dragged their heels on Willie Nelson and now he's 84. His time has come.

EARLY INFLUENCE: LINK WRAY & CHUCK WILLIS. Link Wray probably will be nominated but won't receive enough votes. The 25-30 guitar greats who were influenced by Link will vote for the late guitar man but how many other will follow suit. Willis has been nominated 6x and one of the early singer/songwriters. Classics CC Rider, Rock and Roll Shoes. His death at 30 was a shame.

2018 INDUCTEES
1.Moody Blues
2.Radiohead
3.LL Cool J
4.Janet Jackson
5.Bad Company
6.The Cars

Can't wait to see the other Future Rock Legends Regulars final lists. KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 09.14.17 @ 06:22am


That inductee list, if it happens (and I'm hoping NOT, for the most part), would be a complete joke of a farce... #enoughwiththeclassicrockalready

Posted by EDS on Thursday, 09.14.17 @ 19:53pm


King,

That is a great inductee list. I am never predict Inductees until we know the real nominees. However besides the Moody Blues I think Soundgarden is very likely following the Chris Cornell passing. I certainly dont agree with that Anti Classic Rock fan. He says enough with the Classic Rock but the fact is each year there is some Classic Rock
But they will share the spotlight with acts like Radiohead and Janet J.

But sticking with Nominees your list is great. I think The Cure stand a good chance as a nominee. I am NOT even a fan. This goes back to a chat with DarinG. Where is he? He pointed out that rather than just listing tbose I grew up with I should think of acts that I am NOT a fan of. The Cars are one of my fav 80s acts. Now I also chose the Jam. That offsets the Classic Rock. The Jam is more likely than yu think as a nominee. R&b choices for the 80s are Janet J and Tina Turner. I like some Tina solo and I think she could replace Chaka K this year.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 09.14.17 @ 22:22pm


Cool list, FRL! Yours seems to be realistic in most ways. I have included Stevie Nicks and Billy Preston in my Nominations predictions lists in the past, so I hope that totally becomes a reality. I've said it before: Stevie Nicks will likely becoming the first female 'Clyde McPhatter HOFer', even before Diana Ross (that's assuming she'll ever get in solo-wise). Her solo career was so-so, but to me its always been her image that I believe has influenced so many women today. As far as Billy Preston, that would be nice to have (what the so-called professional critics have called him) the Fifth Beatle in as well. Paul Rodgers has been one that I've suggested, but never put him on any of my lists. He's got a voice like no other. If BadCo does get nominated, I know for a fact they will likely get in right away.

Unfortunately some of the artists you put on there probably won't appear (Chuck Brown, Link Wray, Joe Tex) - though I'd love to see it happen. There's reasons I think that way, but that's the whole beauty of these prediction ballots - they're always open for debate. Otherwise, I do agree with half of your list as I've included those acts. At the risk of repeating myself, I don't think the NomCom will waste any time or space putting Dr. Dre on there, but you never know.

Lastly, maybe I should re-start a blog? Maybe you'll include me (laughs)! Call me naive, but I didn't think blogs were still popular to this day (I know they were 10 years ago...). The only one that I actually read on a regular basis is the Lefsetz Letter. But I have read those that you feature on Twitter.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 01:46am


FRL has a nice list. It does seem to be realistic. They have predicted some of the later acts the same as me. I saw Radiohead, Soundgarden, Dr. Dre and Janet Jackson on their list. Those are on mine. Its the older ones where they go off track from me in bunch of cases. I don't know much about Dr. Dre but Rolling Stone has listed him as an essential artist on one of their lists. Stevie Nicks has a possibility but I am NOT predicting her this year. Some here on the site are. I have never listed Bad Co but Paul Rodgers is a good singer.

I don't think Chuck Brown,Link Wray and Joe Tex will appear. I like Joe Tex. I would love to see him reappear but it's not so likely. I am disappointed that the FRL didn't pick the Moody Blues. They did last year. They have the Cars on their list. I added them to mine just prior to this. The Cars have ranked high in Rock Hall polls. My list remains the same but it is nice to look at.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 06:10am


Nice job, FRL! You went big and went bold. I'm not sure the ballot will only include 2 female artists, but it certainly could happen. I really like the 70s R&B feel- so much like the actual ballot we got for the Class of 2015. Chuck Brown is a choice that's crazy on the surface, but is just the kind of curveball the Nom Com loves throwing at voters.

The only trouble is-- not a lot of acts I really love are on it! If this were the choices we had to pick from, my fan vote would go to... Janet, The Cars, Radiohead, The Smiths, and Rage Against the Machine.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 10:43am


There will always be differing opinions about who deserves to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. I happen to be an aficionado of progressive rock, therefore my list will always include several "prog," or "prog adjacent" artists.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 12:59pm


I can't believe you left out The Moody Blues and Foreigner from your predictions.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 14:11pm


One of them ain't making the cut (at least)... #getusedtoit

Posted by Enough of All These Mediocre 'Classic' Rock Bands in the Hall Already on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 15:53pm


I'd probably give the FRL Nominees List a B. The 19 more monster Nominees List was a big hit 2016 with the fans. Could see 17 or more again. I'll agree with the probable Janet Jackson, Radiohead, The Cars. Don't see Dr. Dre that close after NWA induction. I like the Link Wray pick. So much smoke and fire around him. He will be inducted in some form or fashion. Moody Blues is a notable omission from your list. I also have Stevie Nicks. She's 1 of the Queens Of Rock and would receive many votes on the ballot. The women will be interesting to see on the ballot. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 09.15.17 @ 17:50pm


01. Mary Wells
02. The Marvelettes
03. The Spinners
04. Link Wray
05. Billy Preston
06. Willie Nelson
07. Harry Nilsson
08. Carole King
09. Tina Turner
10. Stevie Nicks
11. The Moody Blues
12. Foreigner
13. Janet Jackson
14. Chaka Khan
15. Rage Against The Machine
16. Radiohead
17. Nine Inch Nails
18. Soundgarden

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 07:43am


01. INXS
02. Kate Bush
03. The Cure
04. The Smiths
05. Television
06. Roxy Music
07. Duran Duran
08. Depeche Mode
09. Tears Foe Fears
10. Iron Maiden
11. Judas Priest
12. Motorhead
13. Joy Division/New Order
14. WHAM!/George Michael
15. Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine
16. Bruce Hornsby And The Range

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 07:53am


Once again, here is my revised list of Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame nominees for 2018:

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. Carly Simon
06. Radiohead
07. The Zombies
08. Procol Harum
09. Steppenwolf
10. The Cars
11. Phish
12. The Carpenters
13. Soundgarden
14. The Spinners
15. Lionel Richie
16. Tori Amos
17. Kansas
18. Garth Brooks
19. Willie Nelson
20. Chaka Khan
21. Doobie Brothers
22. Foreigner
23. Queen Latifah
24. Pat Benatar
25. The Monkees
26. Bjork
27. The Eurythmics
28. L.L. Cool J.
29. Sting
30. J. Geil's Band

The main point is that this list grows longer and longer each year. The other point is that economic factors should definitely be taken into consideration when considering who the Rock Hall will nominate and induct.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 12:37pm


Responding to Enig's list:

1) Probably inductee, but a likely 'pity' vote if they get inducted, as they won't be one of the 10 (let alone 6) best acts on the ballot
2) A more deserving pick than #1 would be, but likely won't make the ballot any time soon, if ever
3) Don't see it happening for them
4) Would be a good nominee selection, but likely not making it
5) See #4
6) Lock of the year!
7-9) ONE of these acts could make the ballot, but won't get inducted
10) A likely/worthy inductee pick, IF they make the ballot this year
11) Uh, NO
12) Sorry...
13) I can see the getting nommed, but not inducted, this year (should've made it on the ballot in 15/16 instead of Green Day/Steve Miller)
14) Should've made it years ago!
15) Better/worthier shot with his former group
16) Would like to see her make it, but not likely
17) OH HELL TO THE NO!
18) Nah...
19) Maybe as an EI/MEXC, but not making the ballot (sorry)
20) Don't see her making it (again) this year
21) Would be a sneaky/underrated pick, but don't see it happening
22) Someone explain all the momentum/hype about them to me, please
23) Won't happen, but would be an interesting nom
24) Possible, but not at the expense of Janet!
25) Not in anyone's lifetime!
26-27) See #23, though she/they might actually have a better shot
28) Probably the one 'token' rap pick- if so, let's be rap-free this year
29) See #17 and/or 18
30) Death Fairy ain't coming to them for the '18 class...

Posted by EDS on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 16:54pm


Or,

01. The Moody Blues
02. Procol Harum
03. King Crimson
04. Duran Duran
05. Supertramp
06. Sade
07. Carly Simon
08. Foreigner
09. The Spinners
10. America
11. Bread
12. Christopher Cross
13. The Carpenters
14. TLC
15. Queen Latifah
16. Mariah Carey
17. Tori Amos
18. Grand Funk Railroad
19. Tina Turner
20. Radiohead
21. Rage Against The Machine
22. Soundgarden
23. Willie Nelson
24. Patsy Cline
25. Eurythmics
26. The Cars
27. The Zombies
28. Dan Fogelberg
29. Jim Croce
30. Barbra Streisand

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 21:45pm


But, who would I really like to see nominated?

01. The Moody Blues
02. Jethro Tull
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. King Crimson
06. Carly Simon
07. Supertramp
08. Carly Simon
09. Doobie Brothers
10. Stevie Nicks
11. XTC
12. Eurythmics
13. Tori Amos
14. Pat Benatar
15. Mariah Carey
16. Foreigner
17. Asia
18. Lionel Richie
19. Sting
20. Alan Parson's Project
21. Emerson Lake & Palmer
22. Gentle Giant
23. Kansas
24. Styx
25. Boston
26. Roxy Music
27. The Cars
28. The Cure
29. Twisted Sister
30. Soundgarden

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09.16.17 @ 23:41pm


Let's try this again, shall we?

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. Carly Simon
06. Jethro Tull
07. Supertramp
08. Lionel Richie
09. Pat Benatar
10. The Carpenters
11. America
12. Bread
13. Stevie Nicks
14. Tina Turner
15. Eurythmics
16. XTC
17. Willie Nelson
18. Doobie Brothers
19. Garth Brooks
20. Dan Fogelberg
21. Toto
22. Mariah Carey
23. Soundgarden
24. The Spinners
25. The Cars
26. Procol Harum
27. Kansas
28. Tori Amos
29. Phish
30. Foreigner

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 08:50am


Hey FRL

Why no classic 60s-70s Rock or Prog bands in your predictions this year? No Moody Blues, no Jethro Tull, no King Crimson, and no Foreigner. Look what's been happening these past few years as far as inductees:

Heart, Rush, Kiss, Chicago, Deep Purple, Cheap Trick, Yes, Journey, Electric Light Orchestra…

Don't you think this trend will continue?

The Moody Blues and Foreigner will be on the ballot this year.

You chose Bad Company?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 08:57am


To Roy: I like to think/hope the Nominating Committee is getting Classic Rock Fatigue (as are many Hall watchers), and hopefully will give other genres a chance, as it's become obvious those who vote are clearly biased Babby Boomer Old Farts- quite frankly, I'd be happy NOT to see a 'classic rock' act get in the next 2 or 3 years (except for the Cars, who are actually underrated compared to most of those above acts); the Moodies will likely be on the ballot (though it will be a pity vote if they get in, rather than one of merit- if anything, they should've been on the ballot 10-15 years ago, rather than waste of time choices like Percy Sledge, Sir Douglas Quintet, and Dr. John), Foreigner hopefully will NOT (Bad Co., Doobie Brothers. and King Crimson are ALL far worthier)!

To Enig: Most of your choices (no way are they nominating 30; I doubt they even go for more than 20) don't have a realistic chance...

Posted by EDS on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 11:34am


Hopefully they might induct some newer artists this year but it's a committee of people who are very stuck in their own ways so they'll probably just induct 1 or 2 artist that has been eligible for under 10 years.
Even Radiohead might not make it in as the latest British Artists to be inducted was The Pretenders in 2005, their first official release is 1979 which (for the most part) is when the Hall decides to remove their eyes and ears and pretend that new artists from 1980 and onwards are few and far between. Sure they've nominated The Smiths twice and Depeche Mode but it's clear that the committee isn't interested in inducting either of those two anything soon (and that's a complete shame) so I think it's completely reasonable to assume that Radiohead's induction isn't guaranteed and really, the only one who I think stands a very high chance is Janet Jackson.
I know it could happen but there still is a significant possibility that the committee will continue to pat each other on the back in their echo chamber and ignore all criticism thrown at them thrown people who aren't white cis-male reactionaries going "NON ROCK ARTISTS SHOULDN'T BE INDUCTED IN TO THE HALL OF FAME BECAUSE REASONS!!!!" camp that I unfortunately used to be apart of.

Posted by Nicky Joe on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 12:01pm


Queensryche
Toad the Wet Sprocket
Better Than Ezra
George Jones
Gordon Lightfoot
Live
Marillion
Mary-Chapin Carpenter
The Smiths
Triumph
Iron Maiden
America
Ozzy
Jim Croce
The Cranberries

Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 16:33pm


Radiohead are making it in (you're telling me there are gonna be 6 acts that beat them out?)...

Non-North American acts to make it since 2005: U2, 3/4ths of The Pretenders (Chrissy Hyde is from Ohio), Sex Pistols, Black Sabbath, Jeff Beck, Genesis, ABBA, most of the Hollies, Small Faces/The Faces, Donovan, Peter Gabriel, Cat Stevens, Deep Purple, Yes, Electric Light Orchestra

Posted by That Guy on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 17:31pm


EDS,

My lists are here to illustrate the absurdity of how the Rock Hall decides to induct artists. However, I disagree with you completely about The Moody Blues, i.e. they are very significant artists. The point is that no fan base will ever be completely satisfied. So, it makes sense for the Rock Hall to increase the number of worthy nominees each year. Not that there will actually be 30 names on the list, but more than 19 is probably realistic.

In recent years, "progressive" artists have finally started to become more recognized, there had been a long dry spell between the inductions of major progressive artists: Pink Floyd had been inducted in 1996. Then, Genesis had finally been inducted in 2010. Rush had a very long wait also, until they had finally been inducted in 2013. Peter Gabriel, was inducted as a solo artist in 2014, but this was probably more likely due to Genesis' induction in 2010. Rush's induction in 2013, however may have led to 3 Yes nominations and Yes' inevitable induction. Yes and Electric Light Orchestra had finally been inducted in 2017. So, in my honest opinion, the nominations later this year will want to acknowledge and celebrate prog's fiftieth anniversary. In accordance with that event, who would it be better to nominate than The Moody Blues, King Crimson and Procol Harum?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 17:42pm


@EDS

News Flash!!! Classic rock is mainly not even rock. It isn't even mainly Boomer music. It is actually Gen-ex music. It mainly consists of Hard rock (only about 10% actual rock) and metal (not rock) - and Prog (again not rock - although the term is applied to any British 1 or 2 hit wonders that Gen exer's like)

Let's talk about artist that were skipped over.

Early 60's - late 60's through late 70's - the women who got passed over because they actually made a difference and did not fit the corporate image that the hall wanted - folk - country (outlaws and the ones that were actually rock) - WTF is the problem with Canadian and artist from or connected to or from Chicago ... give me a break!!!! - Where the F are any of the garage bands - TMB & TMC - This isn't the all hail and glory to the Brits and California hall it is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

The Carter Family 1st and 2nd generation
Chubby Checker
Paul Ankaa
Patsy Cline
Bobby Vinton
Willie Nelson
Dottie West
The Spinners (I'll give Bill this one - I understand where he is coming from)
Herb Kent
Tommy James and the Shondells
The Buckinghams
Ides of March
Kris Kristoferson
Emmylou Harris
Waylon Jennings
The Guess Who
The First Edition/Kenny Rogers
Judy Collins
Helen Reddy
Melanie
Three Dog Night
Grand Funk Railroad
Janis Ian
5th Dimension
Bread
Loggins and Messina
Peter Paul and Mary
BTO
Styx
REO
Steve Goodman
John Prine
Dr Hook
David Allen Coe
Arlo Guthrie
Glen Campbell
Jimmy Buffett
Jerry Reed
Mary Ford (Maybe why Steve Miller spoke up for women in the hall - his godfather gets in but his godmother doesn't - I'd go on a rant too - thank God for men who aren't SEXIST)
Kansas
Minnie Ripperton
Don McLean
Gordon Lightfoot


Until the Hall is back in balance there are only 3 Brits that I am ok with

The Chieftains
Bernie Taupin
Andy Fraser

Pat Benatar induction held hostage for Janet Jackson?????? Did you know that the Jackson family sold the rights to the Beatles songs?

This is exactly how the important acts get passed over and the 2nd and 3rd rate acts get in.

Try TLC instead

Hall Watchers? - You need to start looking at what the artist have to say - especially the ones that got black balled by the industry. You also need to take a look at who is connected and in what capacity in the industry.











Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 17:53pm


EDS,

My lists are here to illustrate the absurdity of how the Rock Hall decides to induct artists. However, I disagree with you completely about The Moody Blues, i.e. they are very significant artists. The point is that no fan base will ever be completely satisfied. So, it makes sense for the Rock Hall to increase the number of worthy nominees each year. Not that there will actually be 30 names on the list, but more than 19 is probably realistic.

In recent years, "progressive" artists have finally started to become more recognized; there had been a long dry spell between the inductions of major progressive artists. Pink Floyd had been inducted in 1996. Then, Genesis had finally been inducted in 2010, although this may have occurred due to their more recent pop sensibilities. Rush had a very long wait also, until they had finally been inducted in 2013. Peter Gabriel, was inducted as a solo artist in 2014, but this was probably more likely due to Genesis' previous induction in 2010. Rush's induction in 2013, however may have led to 3 Yes nominations and Yes' inevitable induction. Yes and Electric Light Orchestra had finally been inducted in 2017. So, in my honest opinion, the nominations later this year will want to acknowledge and celebrate prog's fiftieth anniversary. In accordance with that event, who would it be better to nominate than The Moody Blues, King Crimson and Procol Harum? If the Rock Hall decides to nominate a major prog artist from the United States, then Kansas and Styx may not be unreasonable choices. As far as newer British prog bands are concerned, I cannot imagine that Marillion would ever receive a nomination, but Duran Duran and XTC certainly could, they have much greater name recognition.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 17:56pm


If Chuck Brown were to be nominated, I would hope they wouldn't make it another Front Man Fever case, and nominate the Soul Searchers as well... whichever members they decide to include in the nomination and potential induction.

However, the case of Steve Miller and Pearl Jam in the past two years would make me less than optimistic for this. Heck, it wasn't until public outcry got too big to ignore that the Rock Hall added "And Double Trouble" to the nomination of Stevie Ray Vaughn in 2014, for the Class of 2015.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 20:43pm




Zuzu,

Thank you for liking my list! However, that list was for our Rock Hall Revisited/Projected project we have here, which is why a lot of the names you listed weren't included. Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson, and Emmylou Harris, among others, have already been inducted into the Revisited/Projected hall while the Dells, Moonglows, and Ringo, despite having been inducted into Cleveland's hall of fame, haven't been inducted into ours.

I would love to see all of those acts I've listed inducted into both our project and Cleveland's Hall of Fame, but if I were to make predictions for whom the "real" hall will nominate, it'd probably be more in lieu of what everyone else has been posting. I do think that Dire Straits may be a sleeper, partly due to Mark Knopfler, while acts like Radiohead, Janet Jackson, Soundgarden, and Rage are likely. I think the Cars will be inducted sometime soon, and I'd love to see Kraftwerk and the Moody Blues really get a crack at it and go in.

Do you participate in our yearly Rock Hall Projected project? It'd be great to have you!

Posted by Steve Z on Sunday, 08.20.17 @ 14:24pm


Steve I owe you a double apology. First for taking so long to notice your reply and secondly I just thought you were putting your list in the wrong section. I was so excited to see somebody list BTO since Canadian artist have received so little representation.

Thanks for the invite. I'll have to see what's going on when the time comes. I've been working on projects into Country, Folk,70' artists and artist from Chicago or with Chicago ties.

I knew Dottie West had Rock connections with several Outlaws and Kenny Rogers but I recently learned of a Joe Walsh and Peter Frampton connection.

http://www.guitarworld.com/interview-joe-walsh-discusses-his-career-gear-and-new-album-analog-man

Another thing is the importance of 2 clear channel stations for Chicago area garage bands. Apparently these stations reached small towns across 40+ states at night and reached into 6 states during the day.

I'm finding lists I see on here and other places on the internet very disappointing this year. They are way too Gen Ex and British centric. There have been complaints about passing over folk
country r&b and other important artist from the 60's and 70's. You are going to have more artist speaking out and people need to look at the current trends in music and unless the hall changes track it's going to come back and bite them.

some things I see being missed:

with the uproar about women being inducted we might just have an all women nomination list. remember women make up more than 50% of the adult population.

With the hall opening in Japan I think it is worth considering the Kyu Sakamoto - probably as lifetime achievement.

There has been a trend of nominating artist from or connected to Chicago. Several of them are also Cubbies. I think somebody on the non com figured out what it will take to get Rufus or Chaka Khan inducted.

possibilities:

Guess Who
BTO
Tommy James and the Shondells
Styx
REO
Buckinghams
Ides of March
Jimmy Buffett

Artist that I have noticed getting attention

Jimmy Buffett
Steve Goodman - I have heard talk that just needs a focus to get moving
Melanie
Judy Collins
REO - I would have said Styx first but I'm seeing the same thing that I saw for Steve Miller

Right now I'm leaning REO, Guess Who and Judy Collins.

I may have 2 lists 1 regular and 1 that is women and groups with a central woman.





Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 09.17.17 @ 23:52pm


ZUZU
I like your recent posts. My guess Styx would have the best chance of some of on your list. They really made incredible songs. Best Of Times, Blue Collar Man, Mr. Roboto,Too Much Time On My Hands. I think Journey & Styx a good comparison. Definitely strange how The Guess Who has never been nominated. Excellent songs. I like the Wishbone Ash twin guitar attack Powell & Turner back in the 70's. That was great stuff Blowin Free, Warrior. I made my final list a couple of days ago. KING

Posted by KING on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 05:05am


I think a somewhat balanced list will come this year. It is realistic to assume there will be some Classic Rock acts like there has been each year. There has been a trend lately for more Classic Rock acts. However, there will be more modern acts as well. I choose the Cure even though I am not a fan due to influence. I also choose Janet Jackson and Tina Turner who are both key Female R&b singers. I actually chose the Jam for this year. They had a career that was noticed. I do think both Radiohead and Soundgarden stand a very good chance. Especially Soundgarden due to the passing of Chris Cornell. It is most realistic to figure on both Classic and Modern.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 06:20am


Nicky Joe,

I recall you liked my list. You are the one person on here besides me that has Captain Beefheart on their list. I recall Janet Jackson but I dont remember your whole list. Now last year Bad Brains, Depeche Mode, Janet Jackson and Chaka Khan were all on the Ballot. So thats why I am confident of some Modern choices. The Hall may bring back the Cure and may put the Jam on the ballot for the first time. I have some limited knowledge of them. I am confident in Janet Jackson and Tina Turner. Both women were dominant in the 80s. There were 6 acts notable in the 80s last year. I think the same will happen this year. I am NOT a fan of Radiohead at all but I know they prevailed in the 90s. Nicky Joe can you please Repost your full list. That would be helpful for chatting.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 10:24am



My Top 10 Would be
10 - Whitney Houston
9 - Pixies
8 - Kraftwerk
7 - King Crimson
6 - Judas Priest
5 - Joy Division
4 - John Coltrane
3 - Patsy Cline
2 - Roxy Music
1 - Nina Simone

Honourable Mentions
Captain Beefheart
Chic (The worst part with Chic is knowing that the Rock Hall will most likely see Nile Rodgers' induction as good enough and will never nominate Chic again, leaving them eternally sealed out of the rock hall)
Connie Francis
The Cure
Björk
Depeche Mode
Dolly Parton
Faith no More
Iron Maiden
Janet Jackson
Herbie Hancock
Kate Bush
LL Cool J
The Marvelettes
MC5
The Moody Blues
Motörhead
My Bloody Valentine
Nine Inch Nails
The Runaways
The Smiths
Sonic Youth
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Thin Lizzy
Toots & The Maytals
Waylon Jennings
Willie Nelson

Posted by Nicky Joe on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 16:13pm


Nicky Joe,

Thanks for re posting. Im not sure if the Top 10 is your predictions. In any case I see what you mean. I don't think the Committee would be bold enough for Bjork, Faith No More and Kate Bush in one shot. The committee with its Classic veterans would want to nominate a bunch of old Rock acts. I am confident about the Cars, the Cure and the Jam. I am very certain about Soundgarden. I am predicting a bunch of Classic acts alongside those.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 20:47pm


My blog on my predictions has been up for a couple of days, so I'm sure everyone that was interested in reading it, has by now, so I'll list my predictions here just so FRL can add them to the list of predictions for tallying purposes for when the nominees are officially announced.

I'm predicting 16 nominees (listed in order that I think the Committee is most likely to nominate them)

1. Radiohead
2. Janet Jackson
3. Link Wray
4. The Cars
5. Kraftwerk
6. Soundgarden
7. L.L. Cool J
8. Rage Against the Machine
9. The Moody Blues
10. War
11. Dr. Dre
12. Pat Benatar
13. Mary Wells
14. George Michael
15. Eurythmics
16. Kool and the Gang

With four additional nominees in case the Hall repeats last year with a big ballot.

17. Black Flag
18. Joe Cocker
19. Carole King
20. Patsy Cline


If that did turn out to be the ballot, even though this is not how I would vote or necessarily make for the truly best class, I have to bring up a scenario that would be absolutely cool to see.

Let's say the Hall goes with 6 acts again (which if they have a 20 artist ballot, they better, they should go for more frankly), with Radiohead being the obviously shoe-in. But what if the voters were to choose 5 female acts for the rest of the inductees, based on my ballot. I would say Janet Jackson, Patsy Cline, Pat Benatar, Carole King, and Eurythmics.


If that were to be your group of inductees how cool would it be for one of the final jam songs to be "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" by Pat Benatar with the members of Radiohead and Dave Stewart of Eurythmics backing up Carole King on piano and vocals, and Annie Lennox, Janet Jackson, and Pat herself all taking turns on vocals.

That would be perhaps the greatest moment for female artists in the history of the Hall and would be incredible, IMO.

But yeah, that's not gonna happen lol. It'd be awesome though.

Posted by Donnie on Monday, 09.18.17 @ 21:57pm


Nicky Joe,

I looked at your list. Its a good list pretty much but I don't know how likely some of those are. Herbie Hancock,Motorhead,Sonic Youth and Willie Nelson are all good picks. I just don't know how realistic they are as predictions. I predict ones like Emerson, Lake and Palmer,J. Geils Band Procol Harum instead.It seems like your list is a wish list. It is an excellent wish list.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.19.17 @ 07:22am


Grading Enigmatic's nomination choices, according to overall quality/worthiness, and chances they have for actually getting nominated:

A (Has a very good, better than 50% chance of induction, and would deserve it)

Radiohead
The Cars
Soundgarden
Rage Against the Machine

B (A less certain chance to get nominated/inducted, but with a likely shot)

The Spinners
The Doobie Brothers
The Moody Blues
The Zombies
The Cure
Eurythmics
Procol Harum

C (Could go either way, quite frankly)

Sting
Tina Turner
Pat Benatar
Jethro Tull
Foreigner
Jim Croce
Duran Duran
Stevie Nicks
Lionel Richie/Commodores
Carly Simon
Roxy Music
Sade

D (Not really deserving of being HoF'ers *with 3 exceptions*, but whatever)

King Crimson* (SHOULD be seriously considered, but a group that doesn't seem to get enough traction with the Nominating Committee ;-( )
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
TLC
Tori Amos
The Carpenters
Boston
Willie Nelson*/Patsy Cline* (excellent, worthy musicians, but just not the Rock Hall's cup of tea, by all accounts)

F (No chance in HELL, which is where their music gets played 24/7)

Mariah Carey
Styx
XTC
Grand Funk Railroad
The Alan Parsons Project
Phish
Kansas
Supertramp
America
Asia
Bread
Gentle Giant
Toto
Dan Fogelberg
Garth Brooks
Twisted Sister (the ONE metal band he has listed, and it's THIS ONE? WTF?????)
Christopher Cross
Baba Strident


Posted by KXB on Tuesday, 09.19.17 @ 13:41pm


Hello FRL regulars,
I have been working on this list for the last few weeks and it’s finally done. I work two jobs (one full-time, one part-time) and currently enrolled as a full-time student for my second master’s program, so I have been pretty busy as of late. In my spare time, I managed to write a through essay discussing my predictions list for the 2018 Rock Hall nominees. I have seriously considered starting a blog devoted to all things related to the Rock Hall. Inspired by the likes of Alex Voltaire, Philip, Donnie, Tom Lane, and others, I wanted to take a stab and try to write one. Maybe this could be a launching pad for me to start writing about pop culture again, so I decided to challenge myself to write and see where it goes.

For my list, I chose 19 nominees - the same number of nominees on the 2017 list. Maybe it will be more or maybe it will be less, who knows. Of the 19 nominees on my list, there are 9 fresh names (aka never nominated before, including two first-year eligible picks) with the other 10 previously nominated. I tried to carefully consider a wide spectrum in the rock canon, everything including classic rock, R&B/Soul, alternative, blues, folk, and even reggae. There is an emphasis on post-1975 music because I think the nominating committee will now move forward and try to nominate acts from the 1980s and 1990s going forward. With classic rock acts dominating the performers category in the last five years, I think very few of them will be nominated this year. In fact, I’m only predicting 4 acts who fit the classic rock mold and hopefully that happens. I like Rock Hall classes to be inclusive and encompass all aspects of rock music and its history. Hopefully, this is a balanced enough list and offers something for everyone. Will my list exactly match the actual list in the upcoming weeks? Probably not, but the art of predicting Rock Hall ballots is both arbitrary and exciting. Everyone wants to “think” like the nominating committee, but it’s also possible to know who they will support and for what reasons they neglect others.

Any feedback or comments on my list would be greatly appreciated because I’m thinking about starting my own website and/or blog in the near future. I hope to hear from everyone soon. It’s down to the wire as we all make our final Rock Hall predictions list on FRL. Thank you to everyone who takes the time to read my list. Here goes nothing…

My Final Choices for the 2018 Rock Hall Nominees

1. Big Star
2. The Cars
3. Depeche Mode
4. Dire Straits
5. The J. Geils Band
6. Janet Jackson
7. Joe Cocker
8. Kate Bush
9. LL Cool J
10. Link Wray
11. Nine Inch Nails
12. Radiohead
13. Rage Against the Machine
14. Soundgarden
15. The Spinners
16. Steppenwolf
17. Toots & The Maytals
18. Tracy Chapman
19. War

Detailed Analysis for Each Candidate Below:

Big Star - Fronted by the late-great Alex Chilton (previously from the Box Tops fame in the late 1960s when he was only a teenager) in the early 1970s, Big Star foreshadowed the blossoming alternative rock scene that would dominate rock music in the subsequent decade. Big Star in its original incarnation released three critically acclaimed yet commercially underperforming albums - #1 Record (1972), Radio City (1974), and Third/Sister Lovers (1978). All 3 albums appear on Rolling Stone’s list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time and many of the magazine’s writers are on the committee, so it’s only a matter of time before Big Star appears on the ballot. The band’s HOF chances are dramatically increased given Holly George-Warren, a HOF Nominating Committee member, wrote a recent biography on Chiton and helped create new interest in the band’s legacy. Big Star’s influence can clearly be heard in the music of R.E.M. (first-ballot inductee for the class of 2007), The Replacements (nominated once for the 2014 class and even named one of their most known-well songs after Big Star’s frontman), Gin Blossoms and Wilco.

The Cars - A fellow Rock Hall follower on this site remarked a while back they couldn’t tell if The Cars would be inducted upon their first Rock Hall nomination or if it would take 7-8 nominations (similar to the likes of Black Sabbath, The Stooges, and Lynyrd Skynyrd). This, for some reason, seems about right to me. They seem to be a band the Rock Hall would want to induct, especially considering The Cars possess one of the most distinctive sounds of their era.The Cars have been nominated the last two years and did not get enough votes for induction. Keep in mind The Cars appeared on two of the most heavily competitive ballots in recent memory and those ballots featured long-time snubs such as Chicago, Yes, Cheap Trick, Electric Light Orchestra, and Journey. All of those aforementioned bands were inducted within the past year or so yet The Cars The Cars finished among the top 5 in the fan’s poll and if that’s a good indicator for induction, they stand a good chance for induction. The only other act to finish in the top five on the fan ballot and not receive induction was Nine Inch Nails back in 2015. The Cars, along with The Police and Talking Heads, are one of the bands that helped bridge the gap between classic rock and new wave in the late 1970s and early 1980s and should receive immediate Rock Hall induction.

Depeche Mode - Depeche Mode is one of the most commercially successful bands currently not in the Rock Hall, selling well over 100 million records. They also had one of the five most profitable tours from this past year (behind only the likes of Guns N’ Roses and U2). Boosting both a string of hit songs (“Personal Jesus,” “Enjoy the Silence,” “Just Can’t Get Enough,” “People Are People,” “Never Let Me Down Again,” among many others) and great album cuts (“Fly on the Windscreen,” “Stripped,” “Blasphemous Rumours,”), Depeche Mode has one of the most impressive catalogues of their era. If you follow their career, they evolved as musicians- they experimented new sounds, wrote darker lyrics, and, as a result, became even more popular along the way. Depeche Mode’s influence seems to grow with each passing year in diverse genres ranging from metal to EMD to alternative rock. Sooner or later, Depeche Mode will receive an induction to the Rock Hall, it’s just a question of time. But that might take a while because the Rock Hall hasn’t inducted an 80s era British alternative act. The Smiths, The Cure, Joy Division/New Order, Kate Bush, and Eurythmics are some other no-brainers from this decade, but many of them haven’t even been nominated yet. Besides the lack of Soul/R&B and heavy metal representation, 80s Alternative Rock is probably the weakest genre represented in the performers category. Plus Depeche Mode performed very well on the fan ballot last year, ranking #7 overall and much better than their alternative contemporaries The Smiths and The Replacements on previous fan ballots. So maybe that could be a sign for a second-straight nomination for one of my all-time favorite bands.

Dire Straits - Dire Straits is one of the greatly understated rock bands in post-punk British rock music. They were highly acclaimed by critics, sold over 100 million albums worldwide, and charted well on both the singles and albums charts. Mark Knopfler is simply one of rock music’s finest musicians. His steering guitar riffs, intelligent and thought-provoking lyrics (Knopfler is a highly underrated songwriter), and melancholic vocals (his voice always reminded me of Bob Dylan for some reason, but nobody sings quite like Knopfler) made him distinctive from anything else released at the time. Dire Straits’ most famous song “Money for Nothing” featured one of the first MTV references in a song and remains one of the most iconic music videos ever created. “ In fact, the album Brothers in Arms made them superstars and remains of the best-selling albums from the 1980s. Mark Knopfler is well connected with many Hall of Famers and worked with a who’s-who’s of the music industry, ranging from Elton John to Bob Dylan to Tina Turner to Randy Newman. He is also ranked #27 on Rolling Stone’s 100 Guitarists List, so maybe that could help elevate their HOF chances. Of all the classic rock acts to consider this year (such as The Moody Blues, Bad Company, Foreigner, and The Doobie Brothers, The Guess Who, and Jethro Tull), I would bet on Dire Straits and their brilliant musicianship.

The J. Geils Band - The J. Geils Band gets a bad reputation among Rock Hall followers: accusing their biggest admirers (primarily Steven Van Zandt and Dave Marsh, among the most powerful and influential members of the nominating committee) of cronyism. Even Jann Wanner, one of the co-founders of both Rolling Stone magazine and the Rock Hall of Fame + Museum, expressed his desire to see the Boston band inducted into the Hall one day. After 4 previous attempts (2005, 2006, 2011, and 2017), The J. Geils Band has not prevailed yet. At first glance, the Boston natives are often identified as one of the weakest acts ever appearing on a Rock Hall ballot. But those detesting the candidacy of the band should know they are so much more than their later crossover 1980s hits “Centerfold,” “Love Stinks,” and “Freeze Frame.” They are simply one of the best live acts, if you don’t believe me take a listen to ‘Live Full House’ as proof. In addition, Peter Wolf is one of rock’s most underrated and electrifying frontmen, a towering stage presence with a distinctive voice that blended rock, soul, and blues so effortlessly. With more names appearing on Rock Hall ballots, I think The J. Geils Band’s chances only increase. There is a certain segment of voters who will always vote for them and “gets” their music. Others will write them off as minor stars that struck it big with novelty songs and then faded away from the limelight. With the death of John Geils earlier this year, I think the Rock Hall will give the Boston natives another chance and this would be their fifth overall nomination.

Janet Jackson - Regardless of race and gender, Janet Jackson is one of the biggest Rock Hall omissions. She comes from one of American pop music’s most famous families and largely remained in the shadows of her brothers, especially Michael. Although she was a child star on the 70s sitcom Good Times, Jackson became a worldwide superstar with the release of her 1986 album Control. The album established Jackson as one of pop music’s great female talents – a woman willing to speak her mind, be in control of her sexuality, discuss socially conscious and controversial topics (e.g., AIDS, poverty, women's sexuality) and quite frankly proud to be a woman. Just take a listen to the introduction to the album’s title track – Jackson speaks to the listener telling them this is a song about her being in control of her life and this time it will be on her own terms. It might as well been an autobiographical song and the moment when she stepped out of Michael and the family’s shadow and became her own person. She has more top ten hits than any artist not inducted into the Rock Hall yet. For the album Rhythm Nation 1814 alone she deserves induction, an album that boasted a record-breaking seven top-five singles including four number one hits. Her work with producer Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis revolutionized pop music and helped break racial and gender boundaries along the way. As a result, Jackson became one of the biggest pop stars of the last 30 years. Jackson influenced virtually every female (and dare I say male) pop star that followed her – including Beyonce, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, TLC, Aaliyah, and Rihanna. It’s about time Janet joined her brothers and earn her rightful place in the Rock Hall.

Joe Cocker - The Rock Hall loves the ‘60s and perhaps, even more, they love anything and anyone associated with Woodstock. It is, after all, one of the biggest cultural events in rock music history. Joe Cocker’s soaring rendition of The Beatles’ ‘With a Little Help from My Friends’ made him an instant star and became immortalized in Michael Wadleigh’s Oscar-winning documentary Woodstock (1970). When Cocker covered other artists’ works, ranging from Randy Newman to The Beatles to Traffic (all of whom are HOF inductees), he made those songs his own. Cocker possessed one of the most distinctive voices of the rock era- raw talents, soaring stage presence, and gravelly voice. Mad Dogs & Englishmen (1970), the brilliant live album with HOF inductee Leon Russell as a producer, is a great starting point for anyone doubting Cocker’s musical talents. Cocker also has another advantage: he perfectly fits with other classic rock acts whose music can still be heard on AOR stations (“The Letter,” “You Are So Beautiful,” “Feelin’ Alright,” “With a Little Help From My Friends,” and “She Came In Through the Bathroom Window”). Right before Cocker passed away in December 2014, Billy Joel told a sold-out crowd at Madison Square Garden his desire to see Cocker inducted into the Rock Hall before a Joe Cocker-inspirited rendition of “With a Little Help from My Friends.” Joel even wrote a letter to the institution stating his desire to his former friend among the Rock Hall nominees one day. I must be corrected from something I said earlier – the Rock Hall loves not only the 60s and the Woodstock era, but they love The Beatles even more. Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr have sung the praises of Cocker after his passing and the latter did famously cover a number of Beatles songs. Maybe a Cocker induction could see a living member of The Beatles induct one of their best interpreters. It could very well happen. Clearly, there’s support for Cocker, now it’s a matter of when than if at this point.

Kate Bush - I could not decide between Eurythmics, Siouxsie and the Banshees, or Kate Bush for this spot. All three feature important women in the all-too-neglected area of British women in the Rock Hall. If it was up to me, I would put all three of them on the list. For some reason, I think this might be Kate Bush’s time for a Rock Hall nomination. She shot to fame with the U.K. #1 hit “Wuthering Heights” at the age of 20 and remained one of her native country’s most popular and consistently brilliant musicians. She never quite made it big here in the U.S., but that should have little bearing on her candidacy for the Rock Hall (unfortunately sometimes it does when artists are considered for the HOF). Under the guidance of Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour, Bush’s experimental and infectious work made her one of art pop’s greatest visionaries. She played a major influence on future female singer-songwriters such as Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Florence Welch, and Sia. Bush also has been fans, ranging from 2Pac to Coldplay to Bjork to The Sex Pistols’ Johnny Lydon– that’s about as diverse as any list of fans for a single artist. Finally, something that Kate Bush does not get enough credit for is her artsy, sometimes cinematic music videos. Take a look at “Running Up That Hill” and “Cloudbusting” as prime examples. Although other female singer-songwriters can also be considered her (I thought long and hard about Carly Simon for some reason and think she might sneak onto the ballot), Bush is a just a step above the rest and deserves a Rock Hall nomination.

LL Cool J - LL Cool J is arguably the most popular and perhaps important hip-hop/rap artist who is not yet enshrined in the Rock Hall. When I visited the Rock Hall a few years ago, I remember watching a film devoted to American Bandstand and towards the end of the film it featured the likes of Run-D.M.C. and LL Cool J and mentioned the former was the first-ever hip-hop artist to appear on the show. For some reason that always stuck in my mind when I consider LL Cool J’s HOF candidacy because he broke so many barriers for the genre’s appeal to mass audiences. LL Cool J’s popularity helped his producer Rick Rubin (who should be inducted in the non-performers category very, very soon) become a major player in the record industry and helped Def Jam Records become a legendary, groundbreaking label for hip-hop artists. LL Cool J also helped usher in the “golden age of hip-hop” in the mid-to-late 1980s along with the likes of RUN-D.M.C. and Beastie Boys) and constantly kept evolving his rap style over the years (from rap ballads to hardcore rap and everything in-between). This December LL Cool J will be the first-ever hip-hop artist to receive the Kennedy Center Honors award, a great achievement for LL Cool J in his own right at the still young age of 49 but there is one award looming over him: induction to the Rock Hall. None of the other musicians receiving Kennedy Center Honors - Lionel Ritchie and Gloria Esteban - are Rock Hall inductees themselves. This is strange given that is the vast majority of the musicians chosen by the D.C. group the last two decades are Rock Hall inductees. LL Cool J’s exclusion from the Rock Hall is both obvious and embarrassing at this point. Last year, Chuck D (a HOF inductee from Public Enemy) compared LL Cool J to the likes of Little Richard and Elvis Presley in the landscape of 1980s hip-hop. Chuck D also noted how 2Pac, a deserving candidate in his own right, should have been inducted after LL Cool J in terms of the importance and chronology of solo hip-hop artists. Chuck D is absolutely right and let’s hope the nominating committee remembers LL’s name this time around. LL Cool J was nominated three times over the last seven years and failed all three times. And at one point, LL Cool J received the most votes from the nominating committee when he appeared on one of the ballots so clearly he has the support of them. The recent induction of 2Pac, the first solo hip-hop/rap artist inducted into the Rock Hall, proves voters could embrace solo artists on the ballot. Don’t call it a comeback, LL Cool J has been here for years and although he’s now more well-known for his acting career, let’s not forget his accomplishments as one of hip-hop’s first great superstars.

Link Wray - There are few guitar riffs as influential as Link Wray’s 1958 instrumental smash ‘Rumble.’ It is the perhaps the only instrumental song banned on U.S. radio stations during its time for ‘promoting and indicting gang violence.’ Besides any sensationalism, the song revolutionized the use of guitars in rock music – using a distorted sound. He particularly created the use of the power cord which proved to be hugely influential in later rock trends and subgenres such as grunge, heavy metal, and hard rock. The song inspired future guitarists ranging from Jimmy Page to Pete Townshend, the latter who famously said ‘If it hadn’t been for Link Wray and ‘Rumble,’ I would have never picked up a guitar.’ If guitar heroes like Page and Townshend look up to Wray, then Wray should receive another look by the Rock Hall committee. Plus the recent release of the documentary ‘Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked the World’ (a film I really want to see) spends considerable time focusing on Wray’s legacy. Steven Van Zandt’s involvement with the promotion of the film and recent tweets make it apparent his desire for Wray’s eventual induction into the Rock Hall. Whatever Little Steven wants, Little Steven usually gets so it’s a good bet Wray will receive his second nomination this year (Wray was previously nominated for the class of 2014).

Nine Inch Nails - Trent Renzor should have been a first-ballot inductee when he initially appeared on the 2015 ballot. Behind only Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble on the 2015 fan ballot, Nine Inch Nails was passed over for Green Day as the 1990s superstar rock act. Nine Inch Nails helped transform industrial music to the mainstream and Renzor some of the most demanding yet brilliant music of the last 30 years. In short, Renzor is industrial's vanguard figure. He carefully crafted his music, sometimes taking years to release new music but it was almost always worth the wait. Part of Nine Inch Nails’ appeal is the endless possibilities Renzor might take with his next work. It’s something unexpected, exciting, and grabs the attention of the average rock listener. Renzor keeps evolving as an artist, changed the landscape of rock music, and remains of the few modern musical geniuses of our time. Nine Inch Nails is ranked on Rolling Stone’s 100 Greatest Artists list and was nominated twice for the Rock Hall in 2015 and 2016. They were snubbed last year but with the ceremony returning to Cleveland next year, Renzor’s hometown, the time is right for another NIN Rock Hall nomination. If even a rockist commentator like Eddie Trunk can support and vote for Nine Inch Nails (despite the former’s dislike of their music) based on their groundbreaking achievements, then it's pretty obvious Nine Inch Nails immediately deserves Rock Hall induction.

Radiohead - Radiohead is one of the most critically acclaimed and popular bands of the last 25 years. They released some of the greatest albums of all time – from The Bends to OK Computer to Kid A, they have one of the best catalogs of any artist of the rock era (that includes inductees and those not nominated yet). This is a no-brainer first-ballot induction on the same level of Nirvana and Pearl Jam in recent years. Radiohead is ranked among Rolling Stone’s 100 Greatest Artists list and nearly 90% or more of those on that list eventually receive Rock Hall induction. I could go on, but Radiohead is the only lock for nomination and induction in the 2018 class and rightfully so. Just don’t leave them high and dry.

Rage Against the Machine - Few bands are more fiercely political and in-your-face than Rage Against the Machine. Although the band only released four albums from 1991-2000, the band remains one of the most revolutionary influential, and controversial bands of their time. Combining rap, metal, and hard rock, Rage Against the Machine ushered in a new voice that was blossoming in a time of ever-changing musical landscape in the early 1990s. Their lyrics discussed the oppression of economic, social, and political activists who held deeply anti-capitalistic and anti-government sentiments. Morello is a modern-day guitar hero and one of the most respected figures in Rock Hall circles. Morello, who currently sits on the Rock Hall nominating committee, will probably argue that a band that influenced RATM should be nominated (such as MC5) instead of his band. The nominating committee will refuse Morello’s request and nominate RATM for the 2018 class as a sign of protest against President Trump and his policies. Rage Against the Machine is the embodiment of everything President Trump and his allies support and the world needs another reunion of one of modern rock’s most polarizing bands. While I am not personally a fan of many of their political opinions and antics, it is hard to deny the tremendous impact of the continued intersection of rock music and politics.

Soundgarden- After the inductions of Nirvana and Pearl Jam (in 2014 and 2017 respectively), Soundgarden becomes the next likely Seattle-based grunge band to receive a Rock Hall nomination but under tragic circumstances. After the death of frontman Chris Cornell earlier this year, Soundgarden’s Rock Hall chances dramatically increase due to Tom Morello and Dave Grohl sitting on the nominating committee. Morello worked with Cornell in the early 2000s supergroup Audioslave and penned a heartfelt tribute to the late singer that was shared on his Twitter account. Grohl, a contemporary of Cornell from the Seattle grunge scene, recently spoke highly of Cornell and considered him a friend and a brilliant artist. Even before Cornell’s death, Soundgarden should have received an impending Rock Hall nomination (they have been eligible since 2012) for their merits and accomplishments. To Soundgarden’s credit, they were performing and popularizing grunge music before both Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Soundgarden was also the first grunge band to sign to a major record label. Basically, Soundgarden was around long before those two bands and helped build the transformation of rock music in the 1990s. Cornell, in my opinion, is the most vocally gifted and talented singer of the five big Seattle bands (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Stone Temple Pilots). Cornell’s musical talents have sung the praises of many musicians – many of whom are Hall of Famers themselves, - Elton John, Alice Cooper, Pearl Jam,
Jimmy Page, Metallica, Heart, Aerosmith, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and U2. With the nominating committee embracing more 80s and 90s music in recent years, I doubt Soundgarden would have little trouble getting inducted on their first try. This might be trivial but Soundgarden did rank at #14 on VH1’s list of the 100 Greatest Hard Rock Acts of All Time list back in 2000, outranking many HOF-inducted bands (e.g., Ramones, Cream, Deep Purple just to name a few) and even their contemporary Pearl Jam. It’s a damn shame Soundgarden will be chosen under these dire circumstances, but they are one of the best 90s rock bands and should be nominated very soon.

The Spinners - The Spinners are one of the great 70s soul groups and, alongside 2005 HOF inductees The O’Jays, are one of the proponents of the Philadelphia Soul Sound. After a minor and ultimately unmemorable stint at Motown in the 1960s, The Spinners left the label for Atlantic Records (at the Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin’s suggestion no less) and became superstars the following decade, thanks in large to their collaborations with producer and writer Thom Bell. The Spinners’ work with Bell is one of the great artist-producer collaborations in rock music history and generated some of the best soul songs ever released: “I’ll Be Around,” “Could It Be I’m Falling in Love,” “Games People Play,” “The Rubberband Man,” “It’s a Shame.” Regardless of genre, The Spinners became one of the most reliable hit-makers of the decade. The Spinners represent one of the Rock Hall’s weakest areas for induction in the performer category: R&B and Soul. The Rock Hall used to love inducting soul artists but that stopped for reasons unknown. It’s almost as if soul music did not matter after 1970, after virtually all of the Motown legends and obvious non-Motown soul legends (e.g., Otis Redding, James Brown, Solomon Burke) were inducted years ago. Soul music is still severely underrepresented in the performers category and The Spinners would be an excellent starting choice for the 2018 class. Although 60s/70s soul artist Joe Tex might be popular with the likes of Questlove and Dave Marsh, Tex finished dead last on last year’s fan ballot and perhaps the ship has sailed for Tex to get inducted into the Rock Hall despite 5 previous nominations. I just don’t see Tex getting nominated again this year (although I do really enjoy his music quite a lot) and the committee will give The Spinners another try. Nominated three times in the last six years, let’s hope The Spinners will be around for another nomination next month.

Steppenwolf - The appearance of Steppenwolf on the 2017 ballot shocked most pundits. I think with the exception of Philip (I could be wrong here), most commenters wrote off Steppenwolf as a three-hit band for their iconic hits “Born to Be Wild,” “Magic Carpet Ride” and “Rock Me.” What most commentators forget, however, is how well Steppenwolf performed on the fan ballot last year. They ranked #6 out of the 19 nominees, just missing out in the top five and thus would have had an extra vote to their name. Would it have helped? Probably not, but that’s quite impressive given they were ahead of more well-known modern names such as Depeche Mode, Janet Jackson, and 2Pac. For their impressive showing on the fan ballot alone, Steppenwolf earns a spot on my 2018 list. Now, why should Steppenwolf be members of the Rock Hall? Aren’t they a marginal classic rock band from the late 60s? Yes and no. If Percy Sledge can get inducted solely based on “When a Man Loves a Woman,” then Steppenwolf has every right to receive induction for “Born to Be Wild.” The latter is probably the most famous countercultural anthem of the late 60s and a song that nearly every baby boomer (the most populated group in the larger voting body) can harbor back memories to seeing the song in the film Easy Rider or hearing it on their FM transmitters. Hell, “Born to Be Wild” still sounds fresh nearly half-century after its release. Steppenwolf was also at the forefront of hard rock in the late 60s and even famously introduced the phrase “heavy metal” in “Born to Be Wild.” Although John Kay was singing about motorcycles, the attitude and hard-sounding effects perfectly encapsulated the music and attitude that would dominate rock music in the next decade. Finally, Steppenwolf addressed serious issues and topics in their music – from the anti-drug song “The Pusher” to the anti-Vietnam tunes “Draft Resister” and “Monster” – and they are one of the understated bands of their time. But a Steppenwolf induction will ultimately boil down to the legacy and nostalgia of “Born To Be Wild” and how that sits with the larger body of voters. Plus wouldn’t it be kind of awesome if that song was the all-star jam with other performers?

Toots & The Maytals - Not since Jimmy Cliff’s surprise nomination in 2009 and surprise induction the following year has reggae appeared on Rock Hall ballots. While the Rock Hall has chosen left-field choices from “outside the mainstream” genres (e.g., Bad Brains and Hardcore Punk; Los Lobos and Chicano Rock), reggae has been a weak area for the nominating committee with the exception of Bob Marley and Cliff. Toots & The Maytals, still an active band after initially forming in the early 1960s, would be an excellent representation of the reggae genre this year. In fact, their 1968 song “Do the Reggay” helped popularize the term “reggae” to a worldwide audience. Plus they signed with producer Chris Blackwell (a 2001 HOF inductee in the non-performer category) in the early 1970s and even performed a few songs on The Harder They Come soundtrack (Cliff’s famous Jamaican film and one of the best soundtracks ever) that made them one of Jamaica’s biggest music stars. They are one of Jamaica’s most influential and important bands with some of the best live music footage you will ever watch online. So powerful, raw, and unique - those are really the only words to describe Toots & The Maytals’ live performances. Plus a recent parody of the band on Saturday Night Live, which featured a parody of President Trump and Toots & The Maytals who worked together on a 2004 SNL episode, could spark some interest from the nominating committee, especially in our troubled political times. Stranger things have happened and sometimes left-field, non-mainstream acts appear on Rock Hall ballots. At the same time, it’s about time the nominating considers musicians outside the U.S. and U.K. and this would be an excellent choice.

Tracy Chapman - A left-field choice with no momentum whatsoever, but Tracy Chapman could very well be an ideal nominee for the 2018 ballot. She perfectly fits the singer-songwriter bill, a label the larger voting body gravitates towards when they first appear on the ballot (especially in their first HOF appearance on ballots; see James Taylor, Neil Diamond, and Leonard Cohen as examples). Her music incorporates folk, blues, soul, and rock. She is also an African-American woman, something the larger voting body of Rock Hall voters have neglected on their ballots (Janet Jackson, Chaka Khan, and The Marvelettes are recent examples). Finally, Chapman was born in Cleveland, the site for this year’s ceremony and also the home for the Rock Hall museum. Chapman was a Tuffs student when she was discovered by an audience member whose father was a record executive. After graduation, Chapman signed a record deal in 1987 at the age of 23 and started working on her self-titled debut album. It was released to universal acclaim and remains of the best debut albums of the decade. The album was different from other records in the late 1980s – she was a disadvantaged black woman struggling to survive the socio-economic climate of the Reagan era and sang about her troubles. She sang about issues the average listener could relate to – discrimination, unemployment, undying love, and poverty – and allowed listeners to think about the world around them and see it from a different perspective. The album also featured the top-ten hit “Fast Car” and earned her a Grammy for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance (She also won Best New Artist and Best Contemporary Folk Album). The song is among the 200 best songs on Rolling Stone’s 500 Greatest Songs of All Time list, something worthy to mention since many of the magazine’s past and present writers sit on the committee. It is the highest ranked song both written and performed by a female artist. She steadily sold albums throughout the 1990s and then released the monster hit “Give Me One Reason” in 1995, reaching the top three on the Billboard 100. In addition, Chapman has collaborated with many Hall of Famers including Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, Sting, Bruce Springsteen, and Peter Gabriel. While her name might be shocking at first glance, Chapman is well connected with the right people and is adored by most rock critics who nominate and eventually vote for the Rock Hall.

War - War has been nominated every three years since 2009 and all three of those years the ceremonies took place in Cleveland, the physical site for the Rock Hall museum. If I am a betting man, I think War will receive yet another nomination this year and make it onto the ballot for the fourth time. They have Questlove, a strong advocate for the band and even praised them on his Twitter account a few years ago, in their corner. I can also see someone like Tom Morello and Dave Marsh get behind another War nomination too (mainly for War’s innovative sound, the outspoken social consciousness in their lyrics, and their very diverse lineup of musicians from different ethnicities and races). Plus, War must have had their supporters in 2009 and 2012 when Questlove was not on the nominating committee, so another nomination seems like a strong possibility. War is one of the greatly underappreciated and revolutionary bands of the 1970s. Initially led by Eric Burdon of The Animals, War blended elements of rock, funk, soul, Latin music, and so many other musical styles to create a unique sound. It seems shocking War has not been inducted into the Rock Hall yet. They appeal to the classic rock segment of voters who hear “Spill the Wine” and “Low Rider” still heard on classic rock stations. They also appeal to voters who like R&B/Soul and funk music with the likes of “Slippin’ Into Darkness,” “Summer,” and “The World is a Ghetto.” And War’s pop hits “The Cisco Kid” and “Why Can’t We Be Friends?” are universally loved songs too. War should seem like a no-brainer for induction, but they failed on three occasions. Plus it would be awesome to see Eric Burdon (perhaps the next member of the infamous Clyde McPlatter club and maybe a driving force behind these War nominations) reunite with the band to play “Spill the Wine” one more time.

Posted by Nick on Tuesday, 09.19.17 @ 16:10pm


Very nice choices, Nick! Truth be known, you have a lot of my "runners-up" who I wanted to include, but fell at the final hurdle in my own list of predictions: Dire Straits, Joe Cocker, The Cars...

But I like your "off the wall" picks most of all...Tracy Chapman and Toots & the Maytals are exactly the kind of left-field choices the Rock Hall makes from time to time.

If that was the ballot, I'd probably pick Janet, The Spinners, Dire Straits, The Cars and...either NIN or Kate Bush or Rage Against the Machine. I can't choose.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Wednesday, 09.20.17 @ 10:04am


Nick,

You have a great list. I also have ones I wanted to include but didn't make the final cut of my own list. Dire Straits, Joe Cocker and Kate Bush are ones I would have considered. Also Steppenwolf got cut! I like Steppenwolf a lot. I agree with your Born to Be Wild discussion and I know they had some key albums at the time in the late 60s. I cut them in favor of the Jam a key pop punk group. A Town Called Malice was a key tune in the early 80s. I know it well. Anti Classic Rock fans should dig me saying that. A key tune of the 80s in some circles. I have also included the Cars. They possess one of the most distinctive sounds of the 80s. Now I have the Cure not Depeche Mode as an 80 alternative choice. I also think Radiohead is a lock for nomination. I don't know them very well but I know they were very respected in the 90s. I do think moving forward the nominating committee will try to nominate acts from the 1980s and 1990s to some extent.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.20.17 @ 16:17pm


Here is my list for posterity. I'm sticking with 16

1. Alice in Chains
2. Bad Company
3. Depeche Mode
4. Duran Duran
5. Iron Maiden
6. Jane's Addiction
7. Janet Jackson
8. Kraftwerk
9. Nine Inch Nails
10. Soundgarden
11. The Cars
12. The Doobie Brothers
13. The Monkees
14. The Moody Blues
15. The Spinners
16. Whitney Houston

I've seen great debates, but I am sticking at this point with my choices. A very preliminary induction, at one person's guess, is the Cars, the Monkees, the Moody Blues, Janet Jackson, Soundgarden, and Depeche Mode.

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 02:38am


You know what I should give a detailed analysis for each candidate. It may not be as long as Nick's but Here they are.

Bon Jovi-This is a great choice for Arena Rock. This pick would follow Journey who as we know were inducted in the last ceremony. Bon Jovi released their first single Runaway in 1983. It fit right in with all the other arena rock of the time. Jon Bon Jovi was a huge star all through the 80s. Bon Jovi has been nominated once before. This is a good time for the Hall to try again.

Captain Beefheart- This is a left field choice of mine. Despite edits to my list this act remains on the list. He had a cult following back in the 60s. The Hall does come up with their choices out of left field. There is a tune called Yellow Brick Road(Not the Elton song). It is on a psychedelic collection I have. I am not a big psychedelic fan. It's the only source of psychedelic music I have.

The Cars- This band should really be inducted at last. Its like Nick says. The Cars have one of the most distinctive sounds of the 80s. The Cars have been nominated the last 2 years but did not get enough votes for induction. The ballots the last couple years were very competitive and those ballots featured long- time snubs such as Cheap Trick,Chicago, Deep Purple, Electric Light Orchestra, Yes and Journey. So mow they stand a good chance of induction. I own several albums of the Cars. I own the main ones The Cars, Candy O and Heartbeat City. The Cars should receive immediate induction. So they should be nominated for that to happen.

The Cure- This is my 80s alternative choice. They had a string of successful albums like Head of a Door, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me and Disintegration. They are not my thing but they were very known in the 80s and have been nominated before.

Dr. Dre-Dr. Dre is one of the most popular rap artist of the 90s. He was not eligible until this year. He is among the Top 100 important artist of all time on a Rolling Stone list. My knowledge is limited on Rap but he does belong on the ballot if you consider that Rap acts are showing up in recent years on ballots. If you have Rap on the ballot he seems to make sense.

Emerson,Lake and Palmer- This trio were key in the 70s. They were an important act for Prog rock. Since Keith Emerson and Greg Lake have passed I think the Hall may have sympathy to them. They were a very known Prog group along with Yes, Genesis, the Moody Blues and Jethro Tull. Some of their key albums are Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery. Now that Yes have been inducted it makes sense to nominate them.

J. Geils Band- They are a good Blues rock pick. After 4 previous attempts they have not been inducted. Those finding them to be a weak act probably only know their 80s hits. They were regarded as one of the great Blues rock bands of the 70s by many. Such albums as Full House, Bloodshot and Sanctuary are good examples. With the death of J.Geils earlier this year I think the Rock Hall will nominate them again this year.

Janet Jackson-As Nick said regardless of race and gender Janet Jackson is one of the biggest Rock Hall omissions. Control established Janet J as one of pop music's female singers. She has lots of Top Ten hits. Rhythm Nation 1814 was a huge success. Janet J. has become one of the biggest stars of the last 30 years. I think she may beat out a Rap act and be inducted. I think this past year 2Pac blocked Janet J. from being inducted. If you consider there are 6 inductees. A few are always Rock. There seems to be a spot for a mellow singer/songwriter, So another spot could be for Janet. However, I have other picks that are female and that could stop Janet. This assumes they are all nominated. I will stay away from induction predictions.

The Jam- I wanted some kind of Punk pick. I am not big on Punk. The Jam were a lighter punk band in the late 70s and early 80s. The band drew on a variety of stylistic influences including 60s beat music , soul, r&b and psychedelic rock as well as Punk and new wave. They were known for their melodic pop songs. They had a #1 hit in the UK with a Town Called Malice which boasts a Motown style. Other hits in England were the Bitterest Pill and Beat Surrender. I base this choice on the Bad Brains out of nowhere last year.

Carole King- A good singer/songwriter pick. She has not been nominated for her solo work. This could be the year to nominate Carole King. Tapestry was such a huge seller in 1971 with many hits. She had a lot of albums after that.

Kraftwerk- This represents Electronic music. I am not a fan at all but hey they are nominated quite a bit.

The Meters- A good R&B band. Their tunes were mostly instrumental. A lot of them were. A bunch of their tunes have been sampled in more modern times.

The Moody Blues- Ahhh the Moody Blues. I predict them every year for about 8 years or so. They have a bunch of landmark albums. The most key landmark album is Days of the Future Passed. Other great albums are in Search of the Lost Chord, On the Threshold of a Dream and To Our Children's Children's Children. As we approach the 50th Ann of prog they should finally be nominated. They led to the music of other prog groups like Yes,Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Genesis.

I will continue my Detailed analysis another time. I have to do other things. There is 13 of the nominees.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 10:19am


Great list and analysis, Ben!

I noticed yours is mostly past nominated acts, which is fine, because I hope they do a 'Heinz 57' kind of thing and induct them right away. Bon Jovi was on my list, but now I'm kind of having second thoughts now. After reading that article FRL posted, who knows (the one about Bon Jovi at odds with the Hall). But my argument was he's an icon that still gets plenty of press coverage today and he's well-connected to some of the inductees. Better happen soon!

Like most of the others, I think this is 'the' year for the Moody Blues. Of course, now that I say that it may not be. (I didn't want to jinx Stevie Nicks this year by putting her on my predictions list (laughs))

Posted by Jason Voigt on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 11:03am


I'm also going to come up with a list that has all women & groups with featured women


Patsy Cline
Chubby Checker

Tommy James and the Shondells
The Guess Who

Willie Nelson
5th Dimension

REO Speedwagon (alt Styx)
Judy Collins (alt Melanie)

Jimmy Buffett (alt Steve Goodman)
Commodores

Pat Benatar
No Doubt

Nine Inch Nails
TLC

Janes Addiction
Rufus


Early Influence - The Carter Family

Non-Performer - Herb Kent

Lifetime Achievement - Kyu Sakamoto

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 11:41am


@ King

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed them. Great list. You're going a bit heavy on the Brits and the late 70's & 80's but then I'm going heavier on the 60's & 70's. The one thing that would tighten it up is have one big non Brit artist from the late 60's or early 70's. Emmylou is going to be on my all women list. I think she has a better chance than Gram Parsons.

If the Guess Who, Styx and REO were to appear on the ballot (improbable but stranger ballots have happened), I think there is a better than 50% shot that all three would be inducted.

Gary Loizzo didn't join the other members of American Breed in Rufus because he was doing really well with studio production and engineering work. He has worked on albums for Styx, REO and Bad Company.

WLS (one of the clear channel stations I mentioned)had stuck to a limited playlist in the early 70's. They actually got a bad rep for being the last station to play a new song. They did make an exception for Styx. WLS dj John Landecker talks about it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXh1TazOgNk

Recently I was talking to this guy who was originally from the Roseland neighborhood. He was telling me that he saw Styx when they were TW4 at high school dances.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 13:15pm


I actually wasn't done. I left off with the Moody Blues. It takes a bit of work with the detailed analysis. I will now continue.

Procol Harum- They have been nominated before. I think it's time for them to be nominated again. They had the huge hit Whiter Shade of Pale. They also had albums like A Salty Dog and Broken Barricades. They are another prog choice of mine. They are very early in the prog movement. They are in the same era as the Moody Blues.

Radiohead- Radiohead is not a band I am very aquainted with. They are one of the most popular bands of the last 25 years. This is a bit of a no brainer on the same level as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. I am NOT a fan but I acknowledge their impact.

Soundgarden- After the death of Chris Cornell their chances increase a lot. They were important to Rock music in the 1990s. I expect a nomination of Soundgarden this year.

The Spinners-The Spinners had some of the best soul songs ever like I'll Be Around, Could it Be I'm Falling in Love, Game People Play and Rubberband Man. Theyhad a lot of hits in the 70s. The Spinners represent R&B and soul. The Spinners are a stronger choice than Joe Tex. I like some tunes from Joe Tex but I think The Spinners will get nominated again.

Tina Turner- Tina Turner has not been nominated for her big solo career. She became a big star in the 80s. This followed her years with Ike Turner years earlier. The duo of Ike & Tina Turner has been inducted but Tina Turner has not even been nominated for her solo work. She would replace Chaka Khan on a ballot. She would serve as some competition for Janet Jackson. Tina Turner had key albums like Private Dancer and Break Every Rule. Besides What's Love Got to Do with it other hits include the Best and Steamy Windows. She has a place in the Hall.


Posted by Ben on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 16:03pm


Thanks Alex; it means a lot coming from you and glad you enjoyed my list. As you know, composing Rock Hall lists is a tall task and I try to at least think how the nominating members will think when they have their annual meeting. I think there will be one or two left-field choices that nobody will see coming but then think ‘oh wait, they are worthy’ once you go through their discography. That’s why I think a Tracy Chapman Nomination will be similar to Los Lobos from two years ago - one or two major U.S. hits, but with a small but devoted fan bases, acclaim from music critics, and well-liked by other famous musicians. I’m rooting for an artist outside the USA and UK, and Toots & the Maytals would be a great representation.

After posting my predictions, I realized I left Kraftwerk off my 2018 predictions. I hope they get another Nomination since they are the most influential band not to be in the HOF yet. But I’m predicting both Depeche Mode and Nine Inch Nails so I don’t if that would have been too much electronic-based music for a single Ballot. It would be awesome if all three did make the Ballot.

Also, thank you Ben for replying to my post. It’s great hearing from you again. We agree on some artists for the 2018 list like The Spinners, Janet Jackson, The Cars, Soundgarden, and Radiohead. We do follow a similar trend of where the nominating committee will gravitate towards for the final nominees, genre-wise, but different nominees. For example, I would love for The Cure to return but Depeche Mode did very well on the fan ballot and I think DM has more fans than one might think (not outspoken enough to voice their support, but check off their name on the ballot nevertheless).

I’m really glad you chose The Jam, an underrated UK band from the late 70s and 80s. I love That’s Entertainment, Town Called Malice and In the City. An excellent alternative choice for the HOF. Steppenwolf will surprise people this year and get another HOF Nomination. I think Steven Van Zandt will go for Link Wray and J. Geils Band again and not Procol Harum. But who knows what Van Zandt and other nominating members will support at this point. I’m glad you keep predicting the Moody Blues because I’ve stopped trying to predict them. When the Moody Blues do appear on a ballot (it’s gotta happen one of these years), they will get plenty of votes from the larger voting body and will get inducted pretty quickly on their first appearance. Captain Beefheart would be a good choice and I can see his name on the ballot soon, but I think it would be unlikely he’d get an induction with the HOF embracing more mainstream/commercial names.

Posted by Nick on Thursday, 09.21.17 @ 19:25pm


Nick,


Thank you for your praise. We do follow a similar trend. I am glad you chose the Dire Straits and Tracy Chapman. They are both artists to nominate
I didnt think of those. Marc Knopfler is a great guitarist. Tracy Chapman fits the bill for singer/songwriter very well. I think the Hall will choose Carole King in this genre. Carole King certainly has a long career. I always predict the Moody Blues. We are getting closer to a nomination of them. In recent years some of my predictions like Chicago have come true but not the Moody Blues. Not yet

Posted by Nick on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 07:39am


KXB,

Your comments about the music played in Hell twenty four hours a day seven days a week was absolutely hilarious. Of course, everyone knows that the soundtrack to Hell varies according to one's likes and dislikes. In my honest opinion, 'Baby Love' by Diana Ross & The Supremes, almost every song by Bachman Turner Overdrive, AC/DC, 'Mmmbop' by Hansen, 'Baby, I'm a Want you,' by Bread and 'Lessons' by Rush, to name but a few, are almost on constant rotation as the soundtrack for Hell. I've heard that they play Janet
Jackson's and N.W.A.'s stuff 24/7 in Purgatory. ;-P

Now, as far as Twisted Sister is concerned, those guys were pretty good at playing their instruments. Why else would former Dream Theater drummer extraordinaire Mike Portnoy, replace the late great A.J. Pero, for their final tour? Plus, Dee Snider has a much better voice than either Axl Rose, Brian Johnson, or the late Bon Scott could ever dream of having.

With Journey's induction earlier this year, I think that there might be a few "prog" adjacent artists on the ballot. However, as I have stated previously, this year is the 50th anniversary of prog. The Rock Hall has been criticized tremendously for ignoring prog throughout the past several decades. This is their opportunity to correct that error.

Inducting such artists as: The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, King Crimson, Duran Duran, Sade and Carly Simon in 2018, would go a long way towards improving the Hall's reputation, in my honest opinion.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 08:21am


Oh yes, one more thing for today. It looks like the Nominee list will be out approximately the same time that I celebrate the 29th anniversary of my last "proper" vacation: a day and a half, air safari to Amboseli and The Maasai Mara, in Kenya during the week of October 10-13, 1988.

I may actually take my first vacation in nearly 30 years, if The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, King Crimson, Duran Duran, Sade and Carly Simon are all inducted next year. If not, then my next vacation will still be several years away.. :-(

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 08:55am


Enig,

Its good seeing you on here. Couldn't you just take your Vac if the Moody Blues are inducted. Thats reason alone to do that. Lol. All of those at once probably not happening or perhaps you realize that. So I support 3 predictions of yours with The Moody Blues, Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Procol Harum. Wait did yu predict ELP? Well I have 3 prog predictions.

Posted by Enig on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 09:47am


I get the feeling the Moodys are this year's lock because they will be the popular nominee. A guy feeling, but it seems to happen every year lately and they by far seem to have the largest consensus about the most deserving band still not in. The committee likes to throw deserving accolades to previously unrecognized artists.

Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 11:33am


I realized I have Radiohead on my Inductees but not on my Nominees List. That means I have to amend it. That means Steve Winwood & Smashing Pumpkins have to be erased off. KING'S 2017 RRHOF Nominees.
1.RADIOHEAD
2.The Cure
3.BAD COMPANY
4.Foreigner
5.JANET JACKSON (JJ)
6.The Spinners
7.Alex Chilton/Big Star
8.MOODY BLUES
9.Nine Inch Nails
10.Procol Harum
11.Depeche Mode
12.LL COOL J
13.Rage Against The Machine
14.Def Leppard
15.Stevie Nicks
16.Soundgarden
17.Kool & The Gang
18.J. Geils Band
19.THE CARS
20.Judas Priest
21.Gram/Emmylou
22.Ben E. King

The capitalized group names are my Inductees. This is a excellent & diverse group. Probably any mix and match of a dozen could be inducted. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 13:47pm


From a personal taste standpoint, I actually like King's predicted group of inductees.

Sure it's a little heavy on the "classic rock" side, but the thing with people constantly complaining about having too much classic rock, the sooner you get all the big names in, the sooner the Hall can move on to the 80's and 90's.

The Moody Blues, Bad Company, and the Cars are three of the biggest snubs of the "Classic Rock" era remaining so getting those three checked off would be a good thing.

Then you have three acts that were big in the 90's in Radiohead, Janet Jackson, and LL Cool J, and in the case of Janet and LL, two acts that were even bigger in the 80's (well, Janet was probably about even between the two decades).

And for the Hall's case, all 6 acts are either active or at least in good enough shape to perform.

The Moody Blues are the oldest act, but still consistently perform on a regular basis, so they could perform (if they chose to).

The Cars obviously don't have Benjamin Orr, but he passed before they were even eligible for the Hall, so this isn't a case of the Hall waiting too long to induct an act before members star passing away. The Cars have toured with Ric Ocasek in the last few years, so that lineup could reunite and perform.

Bad Company also performs, although I don't think the original four do. But, they're all alive to the best of my knowledge so they could.

Janet is currently on a major tour, so she'd obviously perform.

Radiohead not only perform but are currently active releasing albums, so obviously they would perform (if they care enough to attend and perform that is).

The only one that's not really active from a musical standpoint is LL who these days is more of a television actor, but he's still in great health and shape and could easily get on stage and perform a couple of songs.


So yeah KING, that's a really solid class.

Posted by Donnie on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 16:33pm


DONNIE
Thanks for the positive feedback! You also have 20 outstanding candidates on your nominees list. Radiohead I think the only certain nominee and inductee so the remaining 5 or 6 spots will be interesting. You have Pat Benatar & WAR 2 of my last few cuts. I think most FRL regulars believe Moody Blues will be inducted if nominated. I have Janet Jackson as an inductee but Stevie Nicks could overtake Janet in the voting. Stevie Nicks is a legend. I usually gravitate to the guitar oriented bands and metal. AIC, Def Leppard, Scorpions, Wishbone Ash, etc. Chris Cornell's tragic death changed many lists as Cornell and Soundgarden well-respected and underrated to some degree. Would have Alice In Chains otherwise. The 80's backlog of Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Smiths, remains intriguing. One has to break through eventually. The Eurythmics is 1 group I wished to add but have a full list. They check plenty of boxes. Enig's Ten Commandments Nominees List keeps growing. LOL!!! KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 09.22.17 @ 17:14pm


My predictions for the ballot...

Radiohead
Soundgarden
Link Wray
The Cars
Joe Tex
LL Cool J
Little Feat
Husker Du
Warren Zevon
Thin Lizzy
Bon Jovi
The Marvelettes
Dire Straits
The Meters
Kraftwerk
Sir Douglas Quintet
Chaka Khan
Slayer
Pat Benatar

...and my personal wishlist:

Kraftwerk
Radiohead
The Cure
Willie Nelson
Pixies
Nina Simone
John Coltrane
Dire Straits
The Smiths
Emmylou Harris
Kate Bush
The Runaways
Eurythmics
Billy Ward & his Dominoes
Nick Drake
Peter, Paul & Mary
Harry Belafonte
Television
Connie Francis

Posted by MichaelEU on Saturday, 09.23.17 @ 15:15pm


Ben,

Was that you, during the last posting?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 13:43pm


Does anyone have any knowledge as to when roughly the nominees will be announced? Usually (though not always) it's the first week of October, yeah?

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 15:37pm


@K-Dawg

FRL put a link up in the tweet section on when nominees have been announced the past few years

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 16:10pm


Enig,

Yeah that was me. I did it again. I put your name instead of mine. That happens when Im tired or sick. I was sick with a Cold last week. So lets try that again. Couldnt you just go on Vac if simply the Moody Blues are inducted.Lol. Thats reason enough to celebrate with a Vac. The odds of all your choices inducted at the same time are rather slim.

I did choose 3 prog acts for my list this year. ELP, The Moody Blues and Procol Harum are all on my list. Thats 3 prog acts.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 19:44pm


Ben,

More than 5 years ago, my first post on this forum elucidated 3 artists who I had said would be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2013: Heart, the late great Donna Summer and Rush.

Afterwards, I had said that if you induct Rush, then you must absolutely induct Yes, but not necessarily in the same year. It was a bold move, but all 4 of those artists are now in the Rock Hall.

Afterwards, I had mentioned the fathers of prog:

My list of 2013 inductees:

Donna Summer (posthumously)
Heart (two sisters who had dominated a band, whose great singles are still being played on the radio)
Rush (their long term snub is starting to reach critical mass, even Rolling Stone magazine readers are in favor of this. Rush was voted greatest prog rock of all time by their readers). They are ranked third in most consecutive gold and platinum albums behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones.
Yes (IMHO, if you induct Rush, then you absolutely must induct Yes), but probably not necessarily in 2013.
Yes was instrumental in starting prog rock, plus 90125 was a danceable hit album.

I think that The Moody Blues deserve a nod also, for inventing the "prog rock" genre, but inducting Rush and Supertramp should push the Moodies and Procol Harum, in within the next several years. Compared to the amount of time that they have waited, this will be relatively soon. Technically, Rush is not really heavy metal, and most of their songs are not that hard anyway.

Although one could argue for King Crimson as well,
"ITCOCK," "Red" and "Discipline" are bonafide masterpieces.
Supertramp sold millions of albums, especially "Crime Of The Century" and "Breakfast In America." therefore they are the most likely prog band to get in this year.
Monkees (Davy Jones will be inducted posthumously)

Therefore, I was certainly incorrect about Supertramp, but I was correct about the first four, wasn't I?

With that in mind, I believe that if The Moody Blues receive a nomination for induction, then they will be inducted.

So, here are the artists that I think will be inducted in 2018:

THE MOODY BLUES
DURAN DURAN
SADE
CARLY SIMON
DOOBIE BROTHERS
THE CARS
FOREIGNER

THE MOODY BLUES

Now that Genesis, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes and Electric Light Orchestra, I think that it is time for the fathers of prog, to receive their long overdue induction.

DURAN DURAN

For almost 40 years, the formerly so-called "throwaway assembly line pop band" has been active and during those ensuing decades they have improved immeasurably. Their relatively recent admission that they've always had a progressive side, bodes well for them. They are probably chronologically the last major prog band to be born, but their
legacy is definitive. Their influence is immense and their continued excellence is well noted.

SADE

Mix prog with soul and you get a general idea about what Sade is about. Helen Folasade Adu wrote the lyrics and co- composed the music. Maybe Sade only has 6 studio albums to their credit, but most of them are superlative. They have influence, longevity and innovation.

CARLY SIMON

I think that Joan Baez's recent induction will be instrumental in getting Carly on the ballot.


RADIOHEAD

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 20:54pm


Ben,

More than 5 years ago, my first post on this forum elucidated 3 artists who I had said would be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2013: Heart, the late great Donna Summer and Rush.

Afterwards, I had said that if you induct Rush, then you must absolutely induct Yes, but not necessarily in the same year. It was a bold move, but all 4 of those artists are now in the Rock Hall.



Afterwards, I had mentioned the fathers of prog

Therefore, I was certainly incorrect about Supertramp, but I was correct about the first four, wasn't I?

With that in mind, I believe that if The Moody Blues receive a nomination for induction, then they will be inducted.

So, here are the artists that I think will be inducted in 2018:


THE MOODY BLUES
DURAN DURAN
SADE
CARLY SIMON
DOOBIE BROTHERS
THE CARS
FOREIGNER
RADIOHEAD


THE MOODY BLUES

Now that Genesis, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes and Electric Light Orchestra have been inducted, I think that it is time for the fathers of prog, to receive their long overdue induction.

DURAN DURAN

For almost 40 years, the formerly so-called "throwaway assembly line pop band" has been active and during those ensuing decades they have improved immeasurably. Their relatively recent admission that they've always had a progressive side, bodes well for them. They are probably chronologically the last major prog band to be born, but their
legacy is definitive. Their influence is immense and their continued excellence is well noted.

SADE

Mix prog with soul and you get a general idea about what Sade is about. Helen Folasade Adu wrote the lyrics and co- composed the music. Maybe Sade only has 6 studio albums to their credit, but most of them are superlative. They have influence, longevity and innovation.

CARLY SIMON

I think that Joan Baez's recent induction will be instrumental in getting Carly on the ballot.


RADIOHEAD

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 09.25.17 @ 21:05pm


Oh just stop it... #notinductingeight #youcandobetter #giveprogandclassicrockarestthisyear

Posted by KXB on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 09:27am


2018 Nomination Predictions:

1. Radiohead
2. Motorhead
3. Janet Jackson
4. Link Wray
5. The Meters
6. Nine Inch Nails
7. The Go-Go's
8. The Cars
9. The Doobie Brothers
10. Carly Simon
11. Soundgarden
12. Joy Division/New Order
13. Joe Cocker
14. J. Geils Band
15. LL Cool J

More than 15:
16. Dr. Dre
17. Kool & The Gang
18. Kraftwerk
19. Thin Lizzy
20. Bad Company

Posted by boar on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 10:43am


Ben,

If at all possible, I try to be certain that I have very rarely taken a day off from work. There are 6 exceptions, of course:

1. Illness, or fatigue
2. Injury
3. Scheduled appointments
4. Emergencies
5. Diminished workload
6. Attending to something which can only be taken care of during normal working hours.

As you can see, vacation is not one of those reasons. In a way, I think that taking a vacation might be even more stressful than not taking a vacation. As I have said previously, I would only take a vacation if I have done something significant enough to warrant it. Otherwise, it would be quite frivolous. Vacations are for people who have families, or significant others. Since, I have neither of those, it does not really make sense for me to take a vacation.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 10:59am


Actually, I really like my previous inductees list. But I would absolutely have no problem with this list, either:

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. Carly Simon
06. The Spinners
07. Doobie Brothers
08. Radiohead

Granted, that it is a little more "prog" heavy and lighter on classic rock artists.

Here is another possibility that I could accept, also.

01. The Moody Blues
02. Duran Duran
03. Procol Harum
04. Sade
05. Carly Simon
06. The Spinners
07. Doobie Brothers
08. Radiohead

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 11:46am


If you happen to take the time to notice, if I am not mistaken, every single one of my induction lists have included: The Moody Blues, Duran Duran, Sade and Carly Simon. Now, I am going to add King Crimson and Procol Harum to that mix. Therefore, every single one of my future induction lists will now include: Procol Harum and King Crimson. In my honest opinion, those 6 are now my essential 6. What about Jethro Tull?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 13:03pm


Now, this is the Induction list which I would really like to see in 2018:

01. The Moody Blues
02. King Crimson
03. Duran Duran
04. Sade
05. Procol Harum
06. Carly Simon
07. The Spinners
08. Lionel Richie
09. Soundgarden
10. Doobie Brothers
11. Willie Nelson
12. Tina Turner

Please notice that Radiohead is not listed.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 13:28pm


Trust me, it will be The Moody Blues and Foreigner this/next year.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 15:28pm


Soundgarden should be a shoe-in

Devo, King Crimson, and Iron Maiden need to be in

also, why does Heavy Metal get snubbed? 80s Heavy Metal is undervalued

why no mention of Slayer or Megadeth?

also, Tool is outstanding, they should start making the ballot in the next few years

Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails should make it soon

Posted by BCC on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 16:04pm


Enig,

I agree with rarely taking a Day off. I have been in retail for over 20 years. So actually I have usually gotten 2 days off according to the rules of my jobs. In any case I was kidding. It was an LOL. I think yu meant that it would take the induction of Moody Blues, King Crimson, Duran Duran and some others to go on Vac. Ok. Prog is faring better than it used to.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 17:51pm


Right on, BCC! :D>

Posted by EDS on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 18:32pm


NOT right on, Roy! #stopitwithfauxeigner

Posted by KXB on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 18:34pm


Three Dog Night is a glaring omission.

Posted by Christopher Unfus on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 19:58pm


I want to say that I made a more conscious effort to have more modern artists. I still have several Classic Rock acts. Although Bon Jovi and the Cars are later in terms of Classic Rock. In order to have realistic predictions one should predict some Classic Rock. 3 of the Classic Rock acts on my list are prog. Those are the kind avoided a lot. I have predicted acts like The Cure, The Jam, Radiohead and Soundgarden. Anti Classic Rock fans will not have much to say about that. I have also predicted Janet Jackson and Tina Turner. I am pretty confident she will be nominated a 3rd time. I am NOT a fan. But I do like Tina Turner. I own a Gr Hits. Better Be Good to Me and Simply the Best are fine tunes.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 09.26.17 @ 22:01pm


Classic rock has reached its fair share the last few years. Although I think the Moody Blues and Monkees should be shoo-ins, I am personally a huge Bad Company fan and think they have been overlooked far too long. That being said, the Cars are the link to the 80s and the next generation of rock to be inducted. It began with Journey, and since it is far past due to let the new wave and pop rock acts in. The fact that the 90s are sneaking in at a yearly rate along with still good classic bands---something is missing. The gap needs to close

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 02:18am


@ K-Dawg

The Carter Family 1st and 2nd generation
Chubby Checker
Paul Ankaa
Patsy Cline
Bobby Vinton
Willie Nelson
Dottie West
The Spinners (I'll give Bill this one - I understand where he is coming from)
Herb Kent
Tommy James and the Shondells
The Buckinghams
Ides of March
Kris Kristoferson
Emmylou Harris
Waylon Jennings
The Guess Who
The First Edition/Kenny Rogers
Judy Collins
Helen Reddy
Melanie
Three Dog Night
Grand Funk Railroad
Janis Ian
5th Dimension
Bread
Loggins and Messina
Peter Paul and Mary
BTO
Styx
REO
Steve Goodman
John Prine
Dr Hook
David Allen Coe
Arlo Guthrie
Glen Campbell
Jimmy Buffett
Jerry Reed
Mary Ford (Maybe why Steve Miller spoke up for women in the hall - his godfather gets in but his godmother doesn't - I'd go on a rant too - thank God for men who aren't SEXIST)
Kansas
Minnie Ripperton
Don McLean
Gordon Lightfoot


Still think that Moody Blues, Monkees, Bad Company and Cars are shoe ins?


not one single woman mentioned????


Bad Company does not get Andy Fraser in!!

Stop looking at fan pimp lists
Stop looking at corporate propaganda

look at what the artist are saying
They want the moving forward to stop
They want the nominations of artist who do not deserve to be in to stop
They think that there are people in the hall that do not belong

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 09:16am


FINAL PREDICTION

THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2018 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Ben E. King
02. Mary Wells
03. The Marvelettes
04. The Spinners
05. Dionne Warwick
06. Tina Turner
07. Carole King
08. Jan & Dean
09. The Monkees
10. The Moody Blues
11. Foreigner
12. The Meters
13. War
14. Soundgarden
15. Nine Inch Nails
16. Rage Against The Machine
17. Radiohead
18. Janet Jackson
19. LL Cool J

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 10:28am


Enig, regarding your post about not taking vacation: you're not taking care of yourself. Are you honestly telling me you have NO living relatives that you know of who'd be happy to see you? I haven't started a family of my own either, but just recently I flew back home to visit my parents, since my dad was celebrating his 80th birthday. I also got to see my niece, whom I haven't seen she was toddling but not talking. I got to see all but one of my siblings and a few friends from years ago. The worst parts about it were the red-eye flights and the long layovers.

In this regard, I'm a lot like you, in that I rarely miss work too. But even if it's just staying home and binge-listening to your Rush albums for a week, vacation is important. And remember work stress counts as fatigue too, not just insufficient slumber. I've been putting up with a LOT of that lately. Too many 11+ hour days that should have been 9 at most. Even if you absolutely love your job, there's no such thing as a job that doesn't have a downside. Maybe do humanitarian work as a vacation if you want to stay productive. But vacation is pertinent to your health, and you'll find that out too late if you don't take one occasionally.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 11:36am


My list of women

Patsy Cline
Judy Collins

Melanie
5th Dimension

Peter Paul and Mary
Marvelettes

Leslie Gore
Connie Francis

Patti Labelle
Rufus

Emmylou Harris
Dottie West

Janis Ian
Helen Reddy

Pat Benatar
Melissa Etheridge

Tracy Chapman
TLC

No Doubt
Bobbie Gentry

Minnie Ripperton
sheryl crow


Early Influence

Carter Family (generation 1 & 2)
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Mary Ford


I avoided some deserving women who were already inducted. I feel the hall needs to catch up before double dipping.

I also included groups were a women was featured but not those that just had had a member who was a woman.

This is my list and I am some of you would disagree with my picks and omissions. Please come up with your own list of catching up with women in the hall. I would find it interesting to see what other people would come up with.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 12:46pm


Interesting list, Zuzu. I don't agree with every single one of your picks, but I do enjoy the idea. Personally, I feel that the lack of female double-inductees is a barrier that needs to be smashed, the sooner the better; ergo, were I to make a similar list, Carole King and Tina Turner would absolutely be on it, as would the Crystals, a nomination including the Blossoms as one-time members of the Crystals.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 13:56pm


K-Dawg,

I liked your post. We agree that it is time for t the next generation of Rock to be inducted. That would be the 80s for the Hall. Yes, the 90s are sneaking in each year but there is a gap that needs to close. I love my Classic Rock but there is 80s acts to be nominated and inducted. Journey was a trend in that direction. Others like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, The Cars, Duran Duran, Cindi Lauper, Pat Benatar as well as left field ones like the Jam and the Replacements are some of the 80s acts that should be on a ballot. Some of these have been nominated before.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 16:03pm


Paul Anka, Bobby Vinton, Bread, The Guess Who, Kenny Rogers, Judy Collins, Helen Reddy, Melanie, Grand Funk (aka 'Creamora'- fake Cream), The Guess Who, Janis Ian, 5th Dimension, BREAD! Don McLean, Loggins and Messina, Peter Paul and Mary, Jimmy Buffett, Styx, REO, Kansas...

wow, that's a whole lotta mediocrity for a 'Hall of Fame' (or for that matter, anything)...why not add Bryan Adams, Bobby Vee, and Anne Murray to that list in lieu of Willie Nelson and The Spinners to make your list totally LAME!

Posted by KXB on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 16:57pm


@ Philip

My reasoning behind the double dips is 2 fold

first it creates the same problem as it did for the guys - it creates a backlog

second woo hoo girl power another woman is inducted is a hollow victory. nothing is gained. There is no additional woman's voice in the voting body.

Women's empowerment is what is important. It's sad to say but in all of the articles about women in the hall, many written by women, none mention what is really important - an equitable say on who gets in. A new woman - a step towards a more balanced vote. I do make an exception on this with those that have died because they need to be recognized.

On the non com there are what 5 male artist. This were it can be fixed right away. Those women who are writing these articles need to start demanding that an equal number of women are added to the non com - both in artist and non artist and the better wake up and smell the coffee and start mentioning nammes.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 18:33pm


@ kxb put up your list of who is long overdue

In the long run it doesn't matter what you think and it doesn't matter what I think.

I'll say what I said what I said about Chicago - nominate them and let's see what the voting body has to say about the artist you list and the artist I have listed.

Because in the end it is the voting body's opinion that matters!!!!

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 18:38pm


Good point, Zuzu; the only hitch though, is that your list includes a few voices already silenced by death. Lesley Gore, Patsy Cline, Mary Travers, just to name three, are women who are already passed on and won't be adding their voice with their future votes. And that's sad, because they're all pretty big snubs. I know you said you were making an exception, but for your ends, a late female performer doesn't work towards unjamming the backlog. You'd need to first induct living women who'll push for the deceased ones later.

I think double inducting deserving women not only breaks the barrier, but also sends a message to the Small Hall people that there should be no more sweeping separate accomplishments under the rug of their first induction, which is a problem for both men and women.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 00:35am


There are definitely a big number of women missing from the Hall; however, I did mention both Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston as songstresses who are the most deserving of the glaring omissions IMO at this point. Pat Benatar will get there sooner or later; however, Joan Jett, Heart, Blondie--there are some rock women already deservedly in. The only 80s diva that I can think of in the HOF at the moment is Madonna. Growing up in the 80s, pop was very much about these two other women as well, and they created the sound for Mariah Carey, Beyonce, and many others who came after them. There are others for sure, but we don't need to stick to folk singers from the 60s or rocking women only; there is plenty of room for the soul of these two great women.

Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 01:19am


K-Dawg,

I agree a lot with Janet Jackson being inducted into the Hall. I dont fully agree with Whitney Houston. She was very popular as well. Janet J like Madonna crossed over into Rock and is connected to Old R&b due to being part of the Jackson family. Jamet J will most likely be inducted before Whitney Houston. Whitney did more soft pop than Janet J. Janet J is kind of a no brainer. Instead of picking Whitney H this year I am picking Tina Turner. She worked with lots of Rock & R&b musicians. As far as women in Rock Pat Benatar has a high possibility for nomination but I dont think this year.

Posted by Ben on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 06:56am


@ K-Dog

I was responding to this entry not your list.
There are many pre-80's women that have been passed over. Look at how long it took to get Joan Baez nominated. Note that she had enough votes to get inducted so she is respected by the artist.


Classic rock has reached its fair share the last few years. Although I think the Moody Blues and Monkees should be shoo-ins, I am personally a huge Bad Company fan and think they have been overlooked far too long. That being said, the Cars are the link to the 80s and the next generation of rock to be inducted. It began with Journey, and since it is far past due to let the new wave and pop rock acts in. The fact that the 90s are sneaking in at a yearly rate along with still good classic bands---something is missing. The gap needs to close

Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 09.27.17 @ 02:18am

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 14:22pm


@ Philip

The problem isn't the voting artist. The sexist are in the nom com and magazine.

Remember my idea for a 5 year min voting guarantee? That would help a bit.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 16:09pm


Look for the nominees to be announced in about a week.

Posted by FRL on Thursday, 09.28.17 @ 16:10pm


Zuzu, I'm not 100% convinced that the ballot necessarily must be 50/50 gender split in order to be fair, but I definitely do see what you're saying.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 09.29.17 @ 00:28am


Philip,

I was talking about the nom com itself, not the ballot, needing to be 50/50 men to women. Although in a decade or two the ballot should be closer to 50/50. At this point it isn't feasible.

They also need somebody that has a real understanding of folk and country and its interaction with rock and roll and rock from the mid-50's through the 80's.

I think I should explain that when I say folk I am not only talking about folk revival. folk is actually much more inclusive and universal. Every single culture that has ever existed had and has its own variant form of folk.

country - a variant form of folk indigenous to the southern United States

outlaw country - a variant form of country centered in Austin that is often defined as rockabilly grown up. It is a fusion of country, rock, folk and blues. It also had counterparts in the folk and rock genres.

Reggae - a variant form of folk out of Jamaica

calypso - a variant form of folk out of the Caribbean

Celtic music - a variant form of folk originating in Ireland and Scotland

and so on - I think you have enough to get my point

Some artist I think would be a good choice are Kris Kristofefrson, Emmylou harris, Joe Walsh, John Prine, Steve Earle, Miley Cyrus or Patrick Stump.

An even better choice would be somebody out of an organization like the Old Town School of Folk Music which is dedicated to preserving folk history and would probably be more familiar with other variant forms of folk.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 09.29.17 @ 12:12pm


I don't know if that's necessary either, having a NomCom that's 50/50 gender split, but I wouldn't object to it either. I think the bigger problem is lack of diversity of thought, which isn't guaranteed just because you have more women. The groupthink that comes from a "who you know" atmosphere to a large degree can be enough to stifle diversity, regardless of external features of the players.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 09.29.17 @ 21:31pm


Hey everyone. The FRL said Look for the nominees to be announced in about a week. Did anyone else notice that? Now do we have proof. I looked all over the Web and found nothing about that. Last year the FRL claimed it would be early October and it was announced around Oct. 18th. I want proof. Has anyone specifically read about an announcement next week. That would be very cool if it is true. That would make the announcement about Oct. 4 or 5th. I have grave doubts.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 09.30.17 @ 09:12am


Probably from the Rock Hall's response "Sooner rather than later. B)" to Alex Voltaire on Twitter.

Posted by dmg on Saturday, 09.30.17 @ 12:05pm


As an aside, not sure if it's appropriate for this forum, but does anyone else wish the fan vote choice would be a write-in? Think of how cool that would be--with disqualifying factors in place if they decided to go with an ineligible artist, of course.

Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 09.30.17 @ 12:51pm


Dmg,

I found that tweet. Ok fair enough. Its just that last year FRL was so sure the announcement was around Oct. 10th. That was either changed or dead wrong. So maybe we can say within 2 weeks. 2 weeks from now is Oct. 13 or 14th. That seems more likely. Heyy I will be glad if they are announced very soon.

Posted by Ben on Saturday, 09.30.17 @ 16:46pm


Philip

Group think is only the tip of the iceberg on problems with the nom com.

They do not list an accounting firm - so who is overseeing the process? Who watches over them and ensures that the whole process is legit?

They hand pick members of the nom com and voting body.

They are constantly changing the guidelines

Remember the Dave Clark 5 incident? I strongly suspect that is neither the first or last time something like that has occurred.

I suspect that they are gaming the ballots. I suspect that if they want to push certain artists, they will put a number of second third rate artist on the ballot to increase the chances of who they are pushing. I have seen several artist say that people who don't belong in the hall are getting in. Some of it is about disco, rap and hip hop but some of it is about the quality of the artist inducted. Remember that the changed the rule about needing 50% of the vote? Could it be that enough voting body were not making 5 picks?

Group think also extends to articles. I strongly suspect that many are hand picked voters and are little more than mouthpieces for the hall's agenda. an example: for 70's women Carole King and Carly Simon who are part of the James Taylor/Joni Mitchell clique. Yet the obvious shoe in, Judy Collins is not mentioned nearly as often. Suite Judy Blue Eyes! Stephen Stills and Judy Collins are touring together and just released an album together'

The one thing that would be accomplished by a 50/50 men/women split is that it would curtail artist that only the guys like and it may help to go get more women named on the ballot.

They need a bigger variety of women on the ballot - something the men have but the women do not. As far as I am concerned, if the need to raise the number of artist on the ballot to 18 or 20 in order to accomplish this then so be it.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 09.30.17 @ 18:26pm


Zuzu,

Agreed with just about all of it, except for two things: one, while I think there is some gaming of the ballots, it's not quite as bad as you're making it, or else Chic would have gotten in well before 11 nominations, and the J. Geils Band would be in by now too; two, as much as I love Judy Collins, she's not the "obvious shoe-in." However, with Joan Baez in now, I suspect the chances for her just got significantly better. Carole, Carly, and maybe Mary Travers, and possibly Armatrading have a slightly better shot than Judy, and might be more deserving at that. But I do love Judy and hope to see her get her due as well!

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 01:47am


Alex Voltaire,

Somehow I have never posted a comment to you. It is an honor. You seem to have had a blog for a long time on the Northrumbian countdown. Are yu a Music journalist? You know your stuff. I read your prediction list on your blog for this year. I read your list last year at this time too. So as far as your 2018 nominee list. Its good. We have both pegged the J. Geils Band, Janet Jackson, Radiohead,Soundgarden the Moody Blues and the Spinners. Thats 6 in common. Link Wray and the Shangri Las are interesting. They are from the first era of Rock. The chances for acts of 1954-1964 are diminished but there is a buzz on Link Wray. Little Steven digs Link. The Shangri Las had some hits in 1964. They are also possible. It isn't like you picked the 5 Satins or something. You were careful with that. I of course applaud your choice of the Moody Blues. They have a higher chance than ever due to recent inductions of Chicago, Deep Purple, Yes and ELO.

Janet Jackson will almost definitley be nominated a 3rd time. I don't like to discuss inductions much except for my crusade on the Moody Blues as well as the Cars. I do also predict Carole King and Tina Turner as far as woman for this year. Those woman serve as competition. I dig your pick of Nina Simone. That is another worthy woman. I didn't think of her.

Some other great picks of yours are Roxy Music, The Zombies, War and Warren Zevon. I know those acts very well. Warren Zevon was cited last year by David Letterman so you never know. He has great tunes like Poor Poor Pitiful Me and Lawyers, Guns and Money. Not just Werewolves. The Zombies is a great 60s choice. I predicted them last year and was right on them as a nominee. This year I am skipping them. I have lessened my 60s picks this year. These are some comments for you about your list. I look forward to your response. This can be a great chat.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 08:30am


Thank you for your kind words, Ben. I'm not a music journalist at all, and frankly, I think most people here on FRL have a deeper palette of musical appreciation than I do. Any special insights I might have come from my being a history professor in real life, and an interest in public history- which would include the Rock Hall's efforts.

Kraftwerk and Carole King would be particularly nice to see from your list. On my blog, I have them listed at the very top of artists I want to see in the Rock Hall. Sonic Youth and Devo are two great sleeper picks. Devo, especially, has a better-than-average chance this year as a Ohio band during a year when the ceremony is in Cleveland.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 09:20am


Alex,

I like your response. I thought maybe you were a music journalist. Are you then about my age like so many on here. I am 52. So my upbringing was in the 70s and early 80s. Back in the 70s one still picked up on the knowldege of Classic acts like the Who, Neil Young, Clapton, The Moody Blues, The Zombies and hundreds of others of the 60s and 70s. I also got into The Pretenders, Tom Petty,Genesis, The Cars,Cindi Lauper and many many others that came along the way. So I have and know a variety. I am predicting the Cure. I know them but am not a fan. I removed Sonic Youth from my list as well as Devo in favor of the Cure and the Cars. Those 2 have a better chance I think to be nominated.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 11:43am


Philip,

I'm talking about being able to get votes. The nom com would go with the faux folkies - Carole King, Carly Simon, Jim Croce and Harry Chapin. This does not mean they will get the votes.

Carole King was nominated as a performer in 1989. She had 1 relevant album as a performer. Think of how people on here who were teens in the 80's viewed artist in the 70's (Chicago - Journey). People who were teens in the 70's had similar views about some of the artist from the 60's.

James Taylor does not speak to Carly Simon. Yes, I know it sounds dumb, but people do take sides in a break-up and it could keep her from getting votes.
I was always under the impression that Carly Simon only got to where she was because of James Taylor. I'm not sure why I picked this up and can only guess it was from how things were said.

Both Judy Collins and Emmylou Harris were known for giving new artist exposure just as Joan Baez did. This is something artist respect and this is why I see both being able to get votes.

Melanie and Janis Ian were both outspoken and got blacklisted. Melanie went indie and is still very influential - you just won't hear about it. Bill Cosby put it out that she was not appropriate for television because he saw a 16 year old Janis Ian taking a nap with head on her female chaperon's lap. She thought it was because Cosby assumed she was a lesbian. With the recent accusations against Cosby, I would say it is possible that he was threatened that his dirty little secret was coming out and was sending a message to shut up women who are now making accusations. I wouldn't guarantee it but I wouldn't be surprised to see these two have support that isn't publicized.

Peter Paul and Mary are a lock.

Armatrading I would say no unless you know of connections to artist in the voting body that I don't.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 11:49am


Question regarding Oasis

Why would hall contact an artist that is not eligible until the 2019 nominations and 2020 ceremony at this time?

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 12:47pm


October has arrived!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 13:35pm


Alex,

I also want to say I saw your Tweet about when The announcement of the real nominees would be. The Rock Hall actually responded with Sooner not Later. I guess we are thinking end of this week. That would be very cool. Similar to my list you kept each era of Rock from the 60s to the 90s in mind. I saw quite a few 80s on yours. You chose the Smiths and I chose the Cure for 80s alternative. I also picked the Jam. The Hall goes left field with a few each year. I think we are about the same age. My Teenage years were late 70s and early 80s. As I said I grew up with a large variety. I hear from ya.

Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 19:19pm


Hi Ben.

I'm 34-- on the very older side of the millennial generation, and roughly the same age as Donnie, Philip, and a few other frequent posters here. I grew up listening to mostly 60s and 70s AM radio favorites of my parents, and mostly ignored the big 90s acts that were big with many of my contemporaries. It wasn't until many years later- when I started visiting this site in fact- that I started to branch out to other genres in the rock and roll family tree. Ranking the 100 Greatest Songs of each decade, and the 100 Greatest Albums was a big help in honing my listening skills and becoming conversant in some of the basics of rock and roll history. But I'd be the first to admit that I have a long way to go.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 20:45pm


According to a post by Classic Rock Radio Station 103.5 The Arrow from Salt Lake City Utah on Facebook some of the possible nominees for this year include Janet Jackson The Cure and Los Lobos here`s what it saids
The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame possible nominees for the class of 2018.... BOSTON? No! Def Leppard? No! Styx, Foreigner? The Doobie Brothers? No! Some of the possibles are Los Lobos The Cure and (for a 3rd time) Janet Jackson

Posted by richie on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 21:18pm


Zuzu,

A lot of worthy artists take more than one nomination. The fact that Carole missed once before really doesn't mean much. Her cache as a big name draw is pretty sizeable. Maybe she'd need a couple nominations again, to build momentum, but as a legendary songwriter and singer/songwriter, I'd be willing to bet she'd have a better chance than Judy, whom I love, but it's a fact that her biggest hits were covers of songs that others wrote. With the induction of Joan Jett, that's not as big a black mark against her as it may once have been, but people still prefer to reward originality, so I have to give the advantage to King. Again, speculation on my part, but I feel it's sound.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10.1.17 @ 22:01pm


Alex,

That is very Cool. So you are only 34 and you have all this vast knowledge of music. I think I am on the much older side of some age group. The 1980s age group perhaps. You are the same age as some of my youngest friends. I got a friend around that exact age. He likes the Classic Rock of his parents. So I guess you heard the music of most of the acts you predict. The J. Geils Band were around for 10 years before they had a big hit. They were a 70s blues rock powerhouse from Boston. It seems like you know tunes like Whammer Jammer and Musta Got Lost. I actually dont know that much by Nina Simone myself but I know she was a notable singer in the 60s. Roxy Music is also a fine choice. They were led by Bryan Ferry. The only difference perhaps is I got to hear the early stuff of some of your choices on Radio stations.

I noted your 80s choices like the Smiths. They were historically important in the 80s. I chose the Cure in this genre even though I like the Smiths slightly more. I own a few tunes by the Smiths. They both had a lot of airplay in New York on a station called WLIR. They were the all new wave station. They also played Dead or Alive and Bronski Beat that I did not like. I listened to the station WNEW-FM. At one time they played cutting edge as well as Classic Rock. Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry were played on NEW-FM. NEW-FM played quite a bit of Warren Zevon. So I know my share of his music. Some of his later stuff is interesting. Sadly NEW FM was no longer on the air. I simply have the Radio experience of the 70s and 80s. We seem to have similar knowledge.

Posted by Ben on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 11:07am


Hey guys This Year`s nominees will be announced on this Thursday October 5

Posted by richie on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 13:03pm


Philip,

This really boils down to an issue of artist using other artist works from opposite ends on several levels.

This is not a black and white or good and bad issue. You need to peel back the layers and look at the context of:

Why an artist recorded another artist's song

Was the person recording just starting out or an established artist with a following

Whose song was being picked - a corporate stable hack - an unknown starving artist with no corporate affiliations - a song written by an established artist

Who picked the song

Record company or manager - to newcomer trying to catch a break - here is a song from one of our stable writers - do it or we will blacklist you as a trouble maker and you will get no where - don't worry that 20 or 30 other artist got nowhere with it. You might be different. - if you don't do well we will toss you out on the trash pile but we still get to glorify our stable writer with look at all the artist that covered their song

New artist I want to pay homage to an established artist that inspired me

Established artist hears song by starving artist and asks to record it or starving artist approaches established artist with hey look at my stuff I need a break and likes the work and records one or more - they may even like the starving artist enough to have them open for them or a friend to give them exposure - at worst they get a royalty check to keep them going until they solidify their work to go to the next level or they might have other artist record their work and gain recognition as a good writer or they may catch their big break and eventually become an established artist themselves.

Group of starving artist write and perform their own work and their buddies work. One of them catches a break with a recording of their friend's song. One moves up and the buddy gets a check. The one that caught a break may even move up high enough to then give his buddies a helping hand


Carole King - I can't help but question if the people covering her work were forced to or did it because they actually liked her work. I personally see her work as the music equivalent of bright shiny costume jewelry and not fine jewelry of the real expensive sort. Cheap and catchy but lacking in the substance of an actual work of art. It has its place in music but its not cutting edge. You are right that it can take more than one nomination for a deserving artist but I don't see her as a lock. I think there are several from the era that she would not stand a chance against if enough of them were on the ballot.

Judy Collins - She did write and record some of her own work. She also recorded folk classics. And yes she recorded other artist work.

She discovered Leonard Cohen and recorded Suzanne. She literally pushed him out on stage and made him perform at here concerts. She put him on the map and other artists noticed him and also covered his work.

She had a hit with Both Sides Now, a Joni Mitchell Song when Joni Mitchell was just starting. It helped her to be noticed.

Farewell to Tarwathie was a folk classic, but look what she did with it that was cutting edge. She incorporated Roger Payne's recordings of humpback whales into the song. Roger Payne's album of whale song sold in large part to Judy Collins. Yes I know that a jazz musician and a Classic conductor had already used whale song in music but this was the first time that a current popular artist used it. This was the first time that more than a small group was exposed to it.

Suite Judy Blue Eyes - she was the inspiration for a song that put CSN&Y on the map.

This is why I see her as a lock and why I think she has a better shot at standing up against some big contemporary artist than Carole King.

The artist know the score. They know the real deal and they know who are the corporate hacks. They know who got f'd over by corporate and who corporate was shoving down the public's throats. It is all going to come down to what they say.

You could be right about Carole King but I still have my questions about her. On a ballot that is weak on long overdue artist that are respected from the 60's and 70's she could squeak in. To be truly convinced I would need to see her get in with some strong competition from the era.

Sorry this is so long but I really want you to understand where I am coming from on these two and why I see them from a different perspective than you.

Peace,

Zuzu


By the way I do welcome your comment - I just wanted to let you know that I was expressing myself and not trying to put down your opinion

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 15:49pm


This isn't directly related to the discussion, but a huge Hall of Famer in Tom Petty has just died at 66 of cardiac arrest. Irreplaceable

Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 16:11pm


Zuzu,

Yeah, it's all speculation. I think you're just as likely to be right as me, though I think you're underestimating the power of a magnum opus. "Tapestry" could very well be strong enough to propel her in as an Performer.

Honestly, I'd rather see either of them on the ballot than Stevie Nicks as a soloist. I still don't get the hoopla over her solo career.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 22:25pm


I think that a large number of younger women idolize Stevie Nicks. I personally would like to see Melanie get in before Stevie Nicks or Cyndi Lauper since both were copying Melanie's vocal style. As a matter of Cyndi Lauper was told specifically by her record company to copy Melanie's vocal style.

I have to laugh because in the comments for the Happy Hippie videos Miley Cyrus did with Melanie several people said Miley Cyrus sounded like Stevie Nicks. What I felt they heard was how much Stevie Nicks sounded like Melanie since Miley Cyrus was trying to copy Melanie's vocal styling for the songs.

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 23:32pm


There has certainly been a lot of buzz lately about Link Wray.

Of course, it's anybody's guess who will be on the nominees list. But, I think that The Moody Blues will finally receive their first nomination. I really like my earler list: the one which started with The Moody Blues and ended with the late George Michael and/or Wham.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 23:41pm


Enig,

Its good to see you on here. Soo we will know in a couple days who the real nominees are. I too think that the Moody Blues will be on the ballot as well as Emerson,Lake and Palmer and Procol Harum. I am also expecting the Cars, J. Geils Band and Soundgarden. Those a very likely. I support my whole list. Enig was googling for your blog. I want to check out your blog.

Please let me know where your blog is located. I want to read your blog.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 07:09am


Hey guys This Year`s nominees will be announced on this Thursday October 5

Posted by richie on Monday, 10.2.17 @ 13:03pm

How do you know?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 09:09am


Right, Thursday, October 5 at 8AM is the announcement!!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 09:35am



Predictions time:

1) If the Moody Blues DO get on the ballot (I'm thinking they will at this point), NO OTHER prog band/act will!

2) NO 'soft' rock/jazz/r&b act is making it- that goes for Bread, The Carpenters, Peter Paul & Mary, Whitney Houston and their ilk...

3) NO metal acts (unfortunately) will even be considered (again), so no Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Motorhead, Anthrax, Megadeth, Pantera et al (again), but hey, Sir Douglas Quintet made the ballot once!

3) ONE rap act will be nominated (likely LL Cool J) and will likely get in over a more deserving 80's/90's alt-rock act (Smiths, Cure, Pixies, Soundgarden, Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails, etc.) ;-(

In other words, business as usual (though I'll consider it a victory if Fauxreigner doesn't get nominated/inducted, and uppity white boomers express their 'outrage' over the one black act *I'm thinking Janet for 2018* that DOES get in!)

Posted by EDS on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 11:01am


Ben,

I do not have a blog per se, but I do have a long archived website instead. Just look up "akd's art rock site." In any event, my 2018 nominees list has been posted several times on this page.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 11:23am


Okay, here is my final list of possible 2018 nominees:

01. The Moody Blues
02. Procol Harum
03. King Crimson
04. Duran Duran
05. Sade
06. Carly Simon
07. Radiohead
08. Rage Against The Machine
09. Link Wray
10. Willie Nelson
11. The Cars
12. Tina Turner
13. Mariah Carey
14. Tori Amos
15. George Michael and/or Wham
16. The Travelling Willburys
17. The Monkees
18. Steppenwolf
19. The Zombies
20. Foreigner
21. Kansas
22. L.L. Cool J.
23. The Eurythmics
24. The Spinners
25. Chic

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 11:58am


EDM,

I think you summed it up very well. I believe the Moody Blues will be on the ballot and eventually will get in right away. Voters will have zero trouble marking the checkbox next to the Blues. Only thing I disagree with are the metal acts. I think Tom Morello and Dave Grohl will put at least a couple of the bands you mentioned on there.

Zuzu-

Judy Collins always seems to fly under the radar for everyone. Her influence and place in music is always underlooked. She still tours today and has put out several albums. Who knows, maybe she'll be the one female candidate like Joan Baez was last year that will easily get in? Same goes for Melanie. There's not many people under the age of 40 who are familiar with that name. They may have heard "Brand New Key" but that song alone won't get her in. She did have other great songs, yet I don't know if her career is HOF-worthy. She could be the next surprise name on the ballot sometime in the future.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 11:59am


Zusu, if Peter, Paul & Mary haven't got in yet, I don't think they are going in. I'm pretty sure we have never inducted them into Rock Hall Projected (could be wrong on that).

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 12:33pm


Zusu, if Peter, Paul & Mary haven't got in yet, I don't think they are going in. I'm pretty sure we have never inducted them into Rock Hall Projected (could be wrong on that).

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 12:33pm


21st Century artists don't become eligible for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame until 2025! We still have a good 8 to 9 years for more 60s-70s acts to be inducted. There is a lot of catching up to do. They will all be inducted. All the old voters are still alive, nominating and voting. They are not dying.

Peter, Paul & Mary, Judy Collins, The Moody Blues, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Foreigner, Kool & The Gang, The Commodores, The Spinners and many others will be inducted by 2025!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 13:28pm


Uh,one of the 'Old voters' just did... #yeahiwentthere

Posted by KXB on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 13:36pm


I think The Doobie Brothers have a pretty good chance this year.

Posted by Michael McNeely on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 15:53pm


Roy,

Wow. Really? "All the old voters are still alive". That comment is the most wrong it can be. I couldnt believe I read that. So I will stop to say RIP Tom Petty! So indeed one of the voters just did. A few months ago was Gregg Allman. Walter Becker of Steely Dan who I love died very recently. Thats just this year. In the last 2 years a lot of rock legends have passed. David Bowie!That was a huge one. Prince, Paul Kanter of Jeffeson Airplane, Ray Manzarak of the Doors. Quite a few others. You need to correct your comment.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 16:05pm


Ok. Now the post was going to do. When I said I support Everything on my list It does not mean I am a fan of all of them. I dont know Dr. Dre, Radiohead and the Cure very well. I didnt groove with those but they have a very good chance of nomination. Ive expanded beyond stuff I like. I do like lots of 80s though. I like Bon Jovi, the Cars and a few tunes from the Jam. Im not big on Punk but they are more melodic. I have heard some of their stuff as opposed to Bad Brains. I have no idea about them. The Jam were influenced by the 60s British invasion and some Glam I think.

Kraftwerk have been nominated many times. So they make sense. They are the electronic choice. The Spinners makes so much sense as well. They were a leading R&b in the 70s. So with less than 2 days to go until tbe announcement I am sticking with my List.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 16:34pm


I think we did induct them in the Rock Hall Projected, actually.

But I would be very surprised if they were nominated. For one, Baez scratched the "folk itch" last year-- and she was edgier in her way, more directly political, and a better songwriter. I like PP&M a lot- one of my favorite concerts I ever attended was a show they did hosted by George McGovern to help open his eponymous library at Dakota Wesleyan University back in 2006. Having said that, I'm doubtful they will get much love from the Nom Com-- their M.O. is, frankly, too....suburban and twee. It dredges up memories of watching their concerts on the latest PBS pledge drive and getting a free cassette with a $50 donation. Not a knock-- again, I am a fan and their cover of "When the Ship Comes In" is one of my all-time favorites-- but they are culturally in a very different place than where the Nominating Committee, let alone the Voting bloc, is right now.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 20:30pm


Sorry...that was all in reference to Peter, Paul & Mary. I should have been more clear.

Posted by Alex Voltaire on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 20:31pm


"When I said I support Everything on my list It does not mean I am a fan of all of them. I don't know Dr. Dre, Radiohead and the Cure very well. I didnt groove with those but they have a very good chance of nomination. Ive expanded beyond stuff I like."

That's all you can really ask of a person. That's what has been most fun for me over the years being on this site--being able to understand history more broadly and come to, at very least, appreciate the impact and importance of acts that likely won't rack up many listens on my Last.fm chart. I've also found that in a lot of cases people who I've had a history of butting heads with more frequently have really expanded my understanding of certain areas significantly (Bill G is a good example, such an invaluable wealth of knowledge in learning more about R&B history). It's always been a lot of fun for me to watch others on this site experience the same.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 20:45pm


DarinRG,

Thank you for that response. You were in fact the inspiration for my expanding my understanding of certain areas. The Cure are not my thing but other nominees I picked in the 80s I do. I like some tunes from the Jam and of course I love the Cars. I did not pick them this year but I like the Replacements. I dont expect them nominated this year. The Cure have a better chance. I dont mind the Smiths too much but I also didnt pick them.

So also while I love Classic Rock or Old 60s and 70s rock I like more modern stuff too. I do have a strong point with acts like Elton John and Eric Clapton and all the other 60s and 70s acts I do also know people like Devo and Bananarama. Does Bananarama have any chance in the Hall? Anyway thats what I have to say. Thank you.

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 22:04pm


As far as Bananarama having a chance at the HOF, I would say most likely not at this point.

Other than a few classic hits ("Cruel Summer," their cover of "Venus," etc) they were mostly a blip on the radar in the 80's scene.

As much of a struggle as it is to get even major 80's artists into the Hall right now, the Nominating Committee is not gonna waste their time on an act like Bananarama.

I think as far as 80's female groups, the Go Go's and the Bangles, who were far more influential and have had more of a lasting influence would be more likely.

If Whitney Houston can't get nominated and if Janet Jackson can't get inducted, Bananarama is just not gonna be a priority at all at this time.

Then again, the Nominating Committee always does strange things.

Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 22:41pm


Thought I'd repost my predictions. A solid, even 18. I replaced Bon Jovi with Pat Benatar after someone said I didn't have enough women. Thought I'd take the crazy route with her. I'm not gonna jinx it by putting Stevie Nicks. Otherwise, this is my final list right before the NomCom officially announces the nominees.

Pat Benatar
The Cars
Def Leppard
Dire Straits
J. Geils Band
Herbie Hancock
Jane’s Addiction
Janet Jackson
Judas Priest
Kraftwerk
L.L. Cool J
The Moody Blues
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Soundgarden
Sting
The Zombies

Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 00:07am


Ben - As far as Bananarama goes I'd pretty much echo what Donnie said. There are still a lot of women from the era from mainstream pop and R&B stars, some of whom Donnie mentioned, to highly popular rockers like Pat Benatar to someone like Siouxsie Sioux who was a major innovator and influence across multiple Alternative/"Underground" subgenres and had some reasonable commercial success while doing it. Stevie Nicks, Eurythmics and Cyndi Lauper all have a significant number advocates as well and strong cases to make. So, I don't expect Bananarama to pop up any time soon. They had a few pop songs that are iconic to the era, but I don't think they really rose to a Hall of Fame level of importance.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 00:31am


DarinRG,

I realized after mentioning Bananarama that there is better choices. Hey at least I showed 80s knowledge. The Go-Gos and the Bangles are much better choices. Also Cindi Lauper. Hey look at that those are female acts. I also know Siouxie and the Banshees. The Killing Jar was one of their hits. A British hit anyway. There is also guys like Billy Idol and Duran Duran to consider. I like these somewhat. They all deserve induction.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 07:09am


They are not eligible for several years, but Sleater-Kinney is my top 'all female' modern choice (Go-Gos being 2nd).

The Marvalettes, of couse, being overall number 1 (should have been in years ago).

Bananarama will never get into the Hall. Not in 100 years.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 09:46am


FINAL PREDICTION

THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2018 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Mary Wells
02. The Marvelettes
03. The Spinners
04. Link Wray
05. Carole King
06. Tina Turner
07. The Monkees
08. Jan & Dean
09. The Moody Blues
10. Willie Nelson
11. Janet Jackson
12. Chaka Khan
13. War
14. The Meters
15. Soundgarden
16. Nine Inch Nails
17. Rage Against The Machine
18. Radiohead
19. LL Cool J

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 09:56am


Well, at long last, the day is almost here. I swear, the nominee announcement is like Christmas morning to me. And the inductee announcement is like the Super Bowl. Haha. Anyway, this is the best time of year. I hope everyone's favorites get their due tomorrow. I can't wait to start speculating about who I'll be seeing in Cleveland on April 14th!!

Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 13:14pm


I agree about the excitement of the nominee announcement except since I am Jewish its Thanksgiving morning. But the inductee announcement os like the Super Bowl. I expect a bunch of people will have at least a couple of their choices will get their due tomorrow with a nomination. It would be strange if all my choices come true. I will be happy with several. I look forward to speculating and chatting about who the inductees will be for 2018. This will be my last post bfore the announcement.

Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 15:04pm



In lieu of (yet another) prediction list (sorry, NO 'soft folk' acts like Peter Paul & Mary, Judy Collins, and Melanie(!) are getting nominated, so just deal with it), here's some over/unders:

Number of first-year eligible acts that will be nominated for the 2018 class- 1 1/2 (I say, UNDER-Radiohead and that's all)

Number of previously nominated acts that will be nominated for 2018- 8 1/2 (OVER, barely)

Number of acts that were on Jeff Ament's 'snubbed' T-shirt that will make the ballot- 5 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of Jeff Ament T-shirt acts that will be inducted- 2 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of female artists/groups with a prominent female (Sonic Youth, Pixies, B-52's, No Doubt, etc.) that will make the ballot- 4 1/2 (OVER, but not by much)

Number of acts that debuted BEFORE 1970 that will make the ballot- 5 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of acts that debuted from 1980 onward that will make the ballot- 5 1/2 (OVER)

Number of 70s/80s 'Classic Rock' acts (as defined by who gets played on my local FM CR station) that will make the ballot- 3 1/2 (OVER, sadly)

Number of metal acts that will make the ballot- 1/2 (less than one) (UNDER)

Number of non-Caucasian acts that will make the ballot (including mixed-race acts like War and RATM)- 4 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of rap/hip-hop acts that will make the ballot- 1 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of female acts that will be inducted- 1 1/2 (UNDER)

Number of non-Caucasian acts that will be inducted- 1 1/2 (OVER)

Number of non-Caucasian, non-rap acts that will be inducted- 1 1/2 (UNDER)



Posted by EDS on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 17:34pm


Hey Guys The 2018 Rock Hall Nominees have been leaked they are
Bon Jovi
The Cars
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
The Eurythmics
The J. Geils Band
Judas Priest
LL Cool J
MC5
The Meters
The Moody Blues
Nina Simone
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Rufus With Chaka Khan
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Link Wray
The Zombies

Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 18:43pm


Here are my 15 predictions:

Chaka Khan
Depeche Mode
Dr. Dre
Link Wray
LL Cool J
Janet Jackson
Judas Preist
Pat Benatar
Soundgarden
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
The Cars
The Moody Blues
The Spinners
The Zombies

Posted by Gassman on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 19:42pm


My final prediction:

Rage Against the Machine
Radiohead
LL Cool J
NIN
The Cars
Janet Jackson
The Cure
The Spinners
Link Wray
Procol Harum
Judas Priest
Pat Benatar
Kraftwerk
Nina Simone
The Commodores
The Meters
Black Flag
Harry Nillson
Jethro Tull




Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 20:26pm


Before the nominees are announced tomorrow morning I thought that I would repost the 17 acts that I think will make this years ballot:

Radiohead
Janet Jackson
Kraftwerk
Link Wray and his Wray Men
The Moody Blues
Soundgarden
Rage Against the Machine
Roxy Music
L.L. Cool J
Eurythmics
The Commodores
The Cars
Warren Zevon
Judas Priest
Patsy Cline
Bad Company
The Monkees

Posted by Tom H. on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 20:38pm


Black Flag
Boston
Chaka Khan
Hüsker Dü
Janet Jackson
Joe Tex
Judas Priest
Kraftwerk
LL Cool J
Link Wray
The Marvelettes
MC5
The Moody Blues
Radiohead
The Smiths
Soundgarden
The Spinners
Wu-Tang Clan
The Zombies

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 20:51pm


@ Richie

Where did you see that the nominees have leaked? That was 5 hours ago, I would think it'd be all over the internet by now if they had leaked.

Posted by Donnie on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 23:17pm


@ Jason

Melanie started her own label in 71 so she is one of the artist that sowed the seeds for the Indie movement.

Stevie Nicks, Cyndi Lauper and several Indie artist copy Melanie's vocal style.

Candles In The Rain is the song that started the rock concert tradition of holding up a lighter during a special song.

To me that is influence that is worthy of an inductee.

Even though the kids may know Brand New Key best, Look What They've Done To My Song is the most covered. By the way when I was a kid the only Joni Mitchell song I knew was Big Yellow Taxi. That's pretty much in line with Brand New Key.

I think Miley Cyrus's Happy Hippy and Backyard Sessions videos will introduce a younger generation to more of Melanie's music. Two seasons ago Miley Cyrus also had one of contestants do Look What They've Done To My Song on the Voice. She is a coach again this season so maybe she have somebody do another Melanie song. I have also noticed that Melanie has also been having more interviews recently.

I wouldn't say she is a lock but I wouldn't be surprised if she did get the votes.


@ Paul

The same was said about Kiss and Chicago.


@ Alex

No, Joan Baez is not enough when you have highly Influential artist that should have been inducted within 5 years of eligibility waiting 25 or 30 while they put in artist with lesser influence on the rock and roll genre. You also have the Kingston Trio, The Chieftains and Judy Collins in addition to Peter Paul and Mary. And this doesn't cover 70's folk, and other major artist from the Boomer era. They have to fix the situation or they are going to have a fallout. Too many fans and artist are a lot angrier than you think. We were told we were getting one thing and left with something that does not even come close to satisfying. Somebody waiting 5 years is not a snub. Somebody who has been nominated is not a snub.

What do you think somebody your age is going to think about treasured favorites from your youth that you considered fresh new and exciting 50 years after the music comes out?

At this point I do not care what kind of bug Jann Wenner and his cronies have up their wazoos. They have to fix the mess they made or you will have more and more Boomer fans and artist will be expressing their anger and disgust and it will come back to bite them.





Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10.4.17 @ 23:19pm


@Donnie
I saw it on wtam.iheart.com I read the page featuring This Year`s Nominees on wtam.iheart.com and I`m going to name off the Nominees once again they are
Bon Jovi
The Cars
Depeche Mode
Dire Straits
The Eurythmics
The J. Geils Band
Judas Priest
Kate Bush
LL Cool J
MC5
The Meters
The Moody Blues
Nina Simone
Radiohead
Rage Against The Machine
Rufus With Chaka Khan
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Link Wray
The Zombies

Posted by richie on Thursday, 10.5.17 @ 00:07am


Zusu,

The same was NOT said about KISS and Chicago. Comparing either of those acts to Bananarama is like comparing Eisenhower to GWB.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.5.17 @ 07:02am


I Wasn't talking about Bananrama. I was replying to this comment you made to me.

Zusu, if Peter, Paul & Mary haven't got in yet, I don't think they are going in. I'm pretty sure we have never inducted them into Rock Hall Projected (could be wrong on that).

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10.3.17 @ 12:33pm

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.5.17 @ 13:49pm


My bad on thinking that particular comment was about Bananarama.

Hope I'm wrong about PPM, but there are a bunch of bands in queue before them, IMO.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.5.17 @ 14:54pm


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